[00:02] <silverarrow> oh , a bit tricky
[00:03] <phillw> silverarrow: you should not need to do this :(
[00:03] <silverarrow> maybe it's something else then, but something is failing
[00:04] <phillw> 11.04 installs fine. Have you checked the md5?
[00:04] <silverarrow> no md5?
[00:05] <phillw> confusious say, when in doubt with install, always check md5 else will be up creek with no paddle
[00:05] <silverarrow> lol
[00:06] <silverarrow> trouble is I am not yet too good with tricky stuff
[00:07] <phillw> silverarrow: ensure your download and install media is okay - Or else we going to be banging our heads off the brick wall!
[00:07] <silverarrow> there should be a course on linux some where lol
[00:07] <silverarrow> I have ran the basic "test CD "
[00:07] <phillw> silverarrow: on the install CD, there is a 'test me' ... run it :D
[00:08] <silverarrow> you know, as one of the options during CD boot
[00:08] <silverarrow> I have done that
[00:08] <phillw> okay, then the CD is good.
[00:08] <silverarrow> it comes out fine
[00:09] <silverarrow> and next would be install without dowloading packages
[00:09] <silverarrow> ?
[00:10] <phillw> silverarrow: nope, run it as 'try without installing' - slow, I know, but it will confirm the little critter is okay.
[00:10] <silverarrow> it works fine as live CD too
[00:10] <silverarrow> I go online fine, it detects harddisk, runs applications
[00:10] <phillw> then, yes, without downloading will be te next step.
[00:11] <phillw> *be the next*
[00:11] <silverarrow> right now I have managed to install and have done the first initial booting, but with the downloadings
[00:12] <silverarrow> ...then for the reinstallation
[00:12] <silverarrow> see you later perhaps, or something :- )
[00:12] <phillw> do not do the downloads... just put the virgin system on.
[00:13] <silverarrow> got it
[01:30] <JDK> Hello!
[01:30] <JDK> Can Lubuntu be run off of a CD,
[01:30] <JDK> like Ubuntu?
[01:30] <JDK> (Live CD)
[01:31] <JDK> Thanks!
[01:34] <KM0201> JDK: of course..
[01:34] <JDK> Thanks!
[01:34] <KM0201> or if you can boot a USB, you can put the ISO on a USB, and boot it.
[01:34] <JDK> Once again, Thanks!
[01:34] <JDK> ^ ^
[01:34] <JDK> :)
[04:57] <ubuntu> hi
[04:57] <ubuntu> anybody speak spanish??
[05:16] <ubuntu> hi
[05:18] <silverarrow> any grub experts here?
[05:18] <bioterror> we all are
[05:18] <silverarrow> good
[05:18] <bioterror> Unit193 is even better than I am with the Grub
[05:19] <Unit193> Riiiight... ;)
[05:20] <silverarrow> I have a newly installed lubuntu, and when I boot I get  stuck on a message "GNU Grub version 1.99" and something like "line bash like editing supported" and suggestions for how to complete comands
[05:20] <bioterror> what have you done?!
[05:21] <silverarrow> I don't know, and I cannot figure the reason for the problem
[05:21] <bioterror> tried to recover grub?
[05:21] <silverarrow> no
[05:21] <bioterror> !grub2 | silverarrow
[05:22] <silverarrow> trouble is, I get this every time I install lubuntu, first boot after initial install boots fine, but second after the first update goes wrong
[05:23] <bioterror> really
[05:23] <bioterror> bad lubuntu!
[05:24] <bioterror> grub2 is the root of all iivyl!
[05:26] <silverarrow> it is?
[05:26] <silverarrow> trouble is, I cannot read the page in live cd
[05:26] <silverarrow> I need to get on a different computer
[05:33] <silverarrow> downloading
[05:33] <silverarrow> I am forced to work with a mac,
[05:33] <silverarrow> I hope it burns easo fine
[05:43] <silverarrow> bioterror, how do I choose correct file in the download+
[05:43] <silverarrow> ?
[05:44] <silverarrow> not easy to identify the actual iso image
[05:44] <bioterror> what
[05:45] <bioterror> you take 11.04
[05:45] <silverarrow> what?
[05:48] <silverarrow> I haven't manged to burn rescatux yet
[05:49] <silverarrow> and it is verson 0.29 or something like that
[05:49] <silverarrow> I have four folders, and one is called iso one is calle live
[05:50] <silverarrow> when opening rescatux dowload folder I mean
[05:51] <bioterror> you dont need rescatux or anything
[05:51] <bioterror> just boot your lubuntu livecd and chroot into installation
[05:51] <silverarrow> whay didn't you say that right away
[05:52] <silverarrow> I am live cd now
[05:52] <silverarrow> the mac is in the library, and I am in the kitchen, running to and from lol
[05:53] <silverarrow> from terminal?
[05:53] <bioterror> yes
[05:54] <silverarrow> sigh
[05:55] <silverarrow> horror
[05:58] <silverarrow> bioterror, when choosing file for burning, do I choose the entire dowloads folder of rescatux?
[05:59] <bioterror> usually you born .iso files if you want to boot them
[05:59] <bioterror> born :D
[05:59] <bioterror> burn
[05:59] <silverarrow> ...how to identify
[05:59] <bioterror> if you want to make regular data cd, then you burn whole folders
[06:01] <silverarrow> well, I want fix grub
[06:01] <silverarrow> never mind, I shall take a chance on one of them
[06:06] <silverarrow> two potential choises; one folder "live" or "isolinux"
[06:08] <silverarrow> only 10.000 steps to read through to figure things out
[06:08] <silverarrow> arg
[06:13] <silverarrow> any suggestions on how to go about this?
[06:17] <bioterror> mount that partition, chroot into it and fix your grub ;)
[06:19] <silverarrow> I cannot mount the drive
[06:19] <bioterror> why?
[06:19] <silverarrow> tu.com/IRC/TermsOfService || For general chat, use #lubuntu-offtopic
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[06:19] <silverarrow> * You are now known
[06:20] <silverarrow> can't find sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:20] <silverarrow> weird copying and pasting there
[06:20] <bioterror> sudo mount /dev/sdaX /mnt/
[06:21] <bioterror> sudo chroot /mnt/ /bin/bash
[06:21] <bioterror> and ofcourse they want you to mount some other stuff too
[06:21] <bioterror> ;)
[06:22] <silverarrow> special device  /dev/sdaX  does not exist
[06:22] <bioterror> some common sense now
[06:23] <bioterror> read the guide
[06:23] <bioterror> !grub
[06:23] <silverarrow> I'm not shore I have common sense when it comes to linux
[06:23] <silverarrow> It's more erratic and random
[06:23] <bioterror> read that restoregrub
[06:24] <silverarrow> ...starts saving up for new laptop,
[06:25] <silverarrow> ....throws old one out the window
[06:26] <silverarrow> ...finds an old XP recovery cd
[06:26] <silverarrow> ...goes to pick up laptop lying on the lawn
[06:43] <silverarrow> I managed to boot in rescatux
[06:43] <bioterror> good
[06:43] <silverarrow> it even has xchat
[06:43] <bioterror> now you just need to understand how that program works :D
[06:44] <silverarrow> yeah, but a bit easier to fiddle around with than termnial
[06:44] <silverarrow> thanks for the rescatux tip
[07:31] <silverarrow> thanks bioterror
[07:31] <silverarrow> computer booted fine after rescatex
[07:32] <bioterror> good
[07:32] <silverarrow> rescatux works idiotproofly
[07:33] <silverarrow> I have a suspicion it was grub error all along
[07:33] <silverarrow> even the first booting trouble I had
[07:34] <silverarrow> I was on a wild goose chaise for hard ware failure, hard ware incompatibilities, system brake down
[07:35] <silverarrow> it turns out grub errors can make hard drive undetectable at boot up
[07:53] <phillw> bioterror: seems like a bug related to os-prober? I thought that was sorted?
[07:53] <bioterror> I dont think so
[07:57] <phillw> bioterror: it is on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ is it still an outstanding bug? I thought it had been resolved in a bug fix?
[07:58] <phillw> bioterror: os-prober?
[08:00] <bioterror> it should be resolved
[08:02] <phillw> bioterror: Note: This issue existed in 10.10 but should no longer occur in Lubuntu 11.04.
[08:02] <bioterror> should not
[08:02] <bioterror> I'm not judging the fix with single case
[08:02] <phillw> is it still a problem?
[09:06] <silverarrow> so, how do I get any sound in lubuntu?
[09:06] <silverarrow> alsmixer is acting up
[11:42] <phil_> Hello. Is any one here?
[11:44]  * phillw yes
[11:50] <phil_> Sorry. I was away for a few. Anyway, I'm having a few problems concerning Lubuntu... :( I have deleted some files but the space is still being taken up... I have no idea what to do.
[11:50] <phil_> Any advice is MUCH appreciated.
[11:54] <phil_> Hello, Hyper.
[11:58] <phillw> phil_ what version of lubuntu are you running?
[12:02] <bioterror> phillw, sudo apt-get clean
[12:03] <phillw> bioterror: he left!
[12:03] <bioterror> :D
[12:03] <phillw> I guess my questuion was too difficult
[13:28] <silverarrow> someone recommended a disc checking tool the other day, but I cannot find it again googleing for it
[13:28] <silverarrow> I finally figured out how to burn on the mac
[13:29] <avelldiroll> silverarrow: i believe it was me speaking about the UBCD: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com
[13:30] <silverarrow> oh, thanks
[13:30] <silverarrow> I have to get to the bottom of this trouble
[13:31] <silverarrow> I booted in Fedora, because it has a inbuilt disk check application, but I don't know how good it is
[13:53] <silverarrow> the ultimate cd looks very promising
[13:54] <KM0201> what is it?
[13:54] <silverarrow> oh sorry
[13:55] <silverarrow> ultimate boot cd
[13:55] <silverarrow> it a bootable cd that checks just about everything on the computer,
[13:55] <silverarrow> cpu, hard disk, ....
[13:57] <silverarrow> I didn't even know there was such a tool until a couple of days ago
[13:57] <silverarrow> or perhaps it was yesterday
[13:58] <avelldiroll> it mainly provide all the manufacturers'  checking tools in one nice bunde, no need to dig some obnoxious manufacturer website in search for the right tool to check your warranty
[13:59] <avelldiroll> *bundle
[14:01] <silverarrow> :- )
[14:16] <silverarrow> on the mac dowload is really messed up
[14:17] <silverarrow> of the ultimate boot cd I mean
[14:17] <silverarrow> here on the lubuntu, and in chromium, download link is easily  visible
[14:18] <silverarrow> in the mac, in safari, there are tons of commercials where the download starter link should be
[14:18] <silverarrow> major hassle to find a working mirror
[14:41] <silverarrow> avelldiroll, how did you burn the ubcd?
[14:42] <silverarrow> I have trouble choosing the correct iso image
[14:43] <silverarrow> rather a daunting task choosing the right folder
[14:49] <silverarrow> how do I identify the correct folder to burn to CD?
[14:49] <silverarrow> do I burn the whole download thing to CD?
[14:51] <silverarrow> there's tons of FAQ on the UBCD homepage, but darn little on these details
[14:51] <silverarrow> nothing at all actually
[14:52] <silverarrow> identify silverlightning
[15:02] <silverarrow> hi pip
[15:12] <silverarrow> but seriously, any tip on burning iso images, on how to identify correct folders?
[18:52] <silverarrow> I have checke my HD and it comes of squeeky clean
[18:53] <silverarrow> what makes lubuntu act up then? sort of deteriorate after a couple of months
[20:22] <kvarley> Loving the work with this flavour! =D