[00:00] <razorgoto> Well, we're doing this thing with Seneca this year.
[00:00] <razorgoto> They do FSOSS every year and they have the space, resources, people and volunteers to manage and plan a big event.
[00:01] <razorgoto> Basically, it will be at Seneca @ York... so not in Scarborough.
[00:01] <BobJonkman> Are you still accepting speakers for LinuxFest?
[00:01] <razorgoto> Bob, totally.
[00:01] <dscassel> razorgoto: I put in my proposal. :)
[00:01] <razorgoto> Actually, we had a dearth of speakers this year so far.
[00:02] <razorgoto> I am encouraging everyone I know to join.
[00:02] <razorgoto> We are also, on top of the conference, doing an unconference on the last day.
[00:03] <razorgoto> So that will be more a breakout time to do more workshops and conferences. Maybe of a more impromptu nature.
[00:03] <dscassel> Cool.
[00:04] <dscassel> Well, it's after 8.
[00:04] <razorgoto> time does fly swiftly.
[00:04] <dscassel> Oneiric is out Oct. 13 so get planning release parties!
[00:04] <BobJonkman> Before we break up, any words on Oneiric's Release Party?
[00:05] <BobJonkman> :)
[00:05] <dscassel> BobJonkman: We'll have one in Kwartzlab.  I'm hoping there's a Toronto one again. :)
[00:05] <razorgoto> Oneiric is the LTS. Right?
[00:05] <dscassel> I haven't heard about any others.
[00:05] <dscassel> razorgoto: Nope.  12.04 is LTS.
[00:05] <SIR_Taco> anything in Kingston? haha
[00:05] <psema4mobile> There can only be ONEiric!
[00:05] <razorgoto> lol.
[00:05] <dscassel> SIR_Taco: If you hold one there will be. :D
[00:06] <BobJonkman> Ubuntu Release Parties are easy to arrange.
[00:06] <razorgoto> The last Ubuntu Release party was great fun here in Toronto.
[00:06] <BobJonkman> The toughest part is getting the Ubuntu logo on the Devilled Eggs!
[00:06] <dscassel> Probably better Oneiric isn't an LTS.  Don't want to have to keep trying to pronounce it for 5 years.
[00:06] <SIR_Taco> dscassel: been holding my breath for awhile now haha
[00:06] <razorgoto> I will try to get in touch with Mike to see if he will be doing it again.
[00:07] <dscassel> razorgoto: Great!
[00:07] <dscassel> SIR_Taco: There's gotta be at least a couple Ubuntu users at Queen's...
[00:08] <BobJonkman> SIR_Taco: Just make an announcement, gather in some local establishment, and burn some CDs from the new ISO
[00:08] <BobJonkman> It might turn into an installfest if people bring laptops
[00:08] <psema4mobile> Im afraid I need to drop off. battery's getting pretty low. Nice to meet you all!
[00:08] <dscassel> Or just, you know, hang out. :)
[00:09] <psema4mobile> BobJonkman catch up with you soon?
[00:09] <dscassel> psema4mobile: No problem thanks for coming out. :)
[00:09] <BobJonkman> Just the thought that it's legal to burn CDs of an operating system is news to some people
[00:09] <psema4mobile> l8tr
[00:09] <BobJonkman> OK psema4mobile, talk to you soon
[00:10] <razorgoto> gotta say the oneric is hard to spell...
[00:10] <SIR_Taco> that's possible
[00:12] <BobJonkman> dscassel: Do you have a date yet for the KW URP?
[00:14] <dscassel> Oct 15.
[00:14] <BobJonkman> Yay!
[00:15] <dscassel> (The saturday after release, as per tradition.
[00:15] <dscassel> (Wait, when's thanksgiving?)
[00:15] <dscassel> (the Monday before.  Phew)
[00:15] <BobJonkman> 10 Oct
[00:15] <SIR_Taco> the weekend before that
[00:15] <SIR_Taco> oooh, I'm a birthday turkey again this year haha
[00:16] <dscassel> SIR_Taco: heh. :)
[00:18] <razorgoto> guys, I've been at work long enough. My Windows computer just crashed. I am going home.
[00:19] <razorgoto> I emailed some people at Free Geek about taking on more activities next two months so we can do some of these stuff in Toronto (Center of Universe.)
[00:20] <razorgoto> See you later.
[00:20] <SIR_Taco> cya razorgoto
[00:21] <SIR_Taco> I always miss the meeting haha
[00:21] <BobJonkman> Bye razorgoto
[00:21] <cvillaco> nice chattin with ya
[00:22] <razorgoto> bye
[00:32] <dscassel> Thanks for coming out, guys. :)
[00:37] <cyphermox> dscassel, poke
[00:38] <cyphermox> sorry, just finished reading backlog
[00:38] <cyphermox> dscassel: might be worth pointing out LinuxConNA next week in Vancouver (I'll be heading out to there on Tuesday)
[00:39] <cyphermox> dscassel: also, please ping me if you're in Montreal on Monday or before, maybe I can make time
[00:46] <dscassel> cyphermox: Oh yeah!
[00:46] <dscassel> There's an open source thing in Ottawa in a couple weeks too.
[00:46] <dscassel> With rms and everything.
[00:46] <cyphermox> fun fun
[00:47] <bregma> wait, what?
[00:48] <bregma> what open source thing in Ottawa?  I might convince my company to pay
[00:49] <dscassel> bregma: hold on..
[00:55] <dscassel> bregma: Found it!
[00:55] <cyphermox> yay for stuff in Ottawa. this is within driveable distance within a day :)
[00:55] <dscassel> http://fosslc.org/drupal/sc2011
[00:56] <dscassel> I'll actually be in Ottawa on the 27th, but I've got a train ticket that leaves at 1pm. :(
[00:57] <dscassel> Funny, tho, that the fsf where's rms page doesn't list it.
[00:57] <dscassel> It says he's suppoed to be in the UK that week.
[00:59] <dscassel> BTW, a little bit of self-promotion I forgot to do at the meeting, I'm putting myself up for Ubuntu membership next week, if you're interested in giving me a testamonial...
[01:00] <dscassel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/dscassel
[01:00] <cyphermox> dscassel: absolutely, thanks for bringing it up
[01:00] <cyphermox> i thought the meeting was this week though
[01:01] <cyphermox> I stand corrected
[01:05] <bregma> dang, August 27 is my brother's 50th birthday party in Hamilton, I can't miss that
[01:13] <dscassel> bregma: Maybe your brother will want to meet St IGNUcious for his birthday... :)
[01:14] <bregma> unlikely
[02:18] <khoover> did i miss everything?
[02:20] <dscassel> khoover: There's always something. :)
[02:20]  * dscassel may be lying...
[02:20] <dscassel> Still, if there's anything you want to bring up, I haven't done the minutes yet.
[02:20] <khoover> does that something involve beer and/or code?
[02:21] <khoover> oh, not really.
[02:21] <dscassel> Drink/code 'em if you got em.
[02:21] <khoover> meant more if we had it here...
[02:23] <khoover> last time i tried to adopt ubuntu, it destroyed my music library. probably cause i had the thing partitioned onto it, and there were two filesystems on one physical drive
[02:23] <dscassel> khoover: Where's "here"? :)
[02:24] <dscassel> khoover: Ouch. Yeah. I've learned from hard experience to be very, very careful about that stuff.
[02:24] <khoover> here in channel, ofc. where else?
[02:24] <khoover> my house? :P
[02:24]  * dscassel hands khoover a beer.
[02:26] <khoover> sudo cp beer beer2
[02:26]  * khoover hands dscassel beer2
[02:27] <khoover> cheers
[02:30] <khoover> forever alone...
[02:31] <dscassel> :)
[02:34] <dscassel> I'm at the Kwartzlab hackerspace for Open Night.
[02:34] <dscassel> Webcam here: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/kwartzlab :)
[02:35]  * dscassel is actually on camera. Say hi and I'll wave.
[02:43] <khoover> bah, was trying to come up with some clever script for multiplying beer.
[02:44] <BobJonkman> Whoops.  Thought the meeting was over already
[02:45] <khoover> dscassel: are you the balded one?
[02:45] <khoover> BobJonkman: it pretty much is
[02:47] <BobJonkman> I uploaded the log a couple of hours ago.  I'll have to add the stuff about Ottawa
[02:47] <BobJonkman> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings/2011-08-09/log
[02:55] <dscassel> Thanks, BobJonkman
[02:55] <dscassel> Bald*ing*, I'll thank you.
[02:56] <dscassel> The webcam doesn't have the resolution to pick up the hair that's there. :)
[02:56] <dscassel> wave...
[02:56] <dscassel> Ben's in the foreground. He's standing in front of me right now.  I'm in the back at the table.
[02:57] <khoover> oh, ben's the bald one.
[02:57] <khoover> so, exactly what goes on at hackathons
[02:58] <dscassel> Hacking. :D
[02:58] <dscassel> It's not actually the Global Synchronous Hackathon.
[02:58] <dscassel> Nobody changed the headline.
[02:58] <BobJonkman> dscassel: Do you already have IRC minutes prepared?
[02:59] <dscassel> BobJonkman: Were you working on it?
[02:59] <dscassel> I started but got distracted. Don't have much.
[02:59] <BobJonkman> Not yet.  Took a break for dinner and a movie.
[02:59] <BobJonkman> Movie was awful, dinner was OK
[02:59] <dscassel> Fair enough. :)
[02:59] <khoover> can we not simply script what the scribe-bot got into something human-legible?
[03:00] <BobJonkman> Was there a scribe-bot?
[03:00] <khoover> there usually is
[03:00] <BobJonkman> Or are you talking about me?
[03:00] <dscassel> Bob posted the log.
[03:01] <khoover> no, the...aw, hang on
[03:01] <BobJonkman> What I usually do is pick out the highlights and make it sound official
[03:01] <dscassel> We're not using a meeting bot.
[03:01] <dscassel> (Because I haven't figured out how, mostly).
[03:01] <dscassel> (And I don't mind being a bit less formal)
[03:02] <BobJonkman> It's my writing style.  Dry and turgid
[03:03] <khoover> here we go
[03:03] <khoover> http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/2011/08/10/%23ubuntu-ca.html
[03:04] <dscassel> Yeah, that's the log. :)
[03:04] <khoover> well, my mistake in calling it scribe-bot.
[03:04] <khoover> could've sworn i saw it called a bot somewhere...
[03:04] <BobJonkman> Not unlike http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/08/09/%23ubuntu-ca.html#t23:00
[03:04] <BobJonkman> I think that comes from locobot_1
[03:06] <khoover> damn, son, it's even colour coded
[03:13] <khoover> auuuuuugh, why'd i leave rtf's on office.
[03:20] <cvillaco> speaking of formatting
[03:21] <cvillaco> i hate to inturrupt, but i been wondering for awhile and never found the best time to ask
[03:21] <cvillaco> i been using empathy right now for irc chat
[03:22] <cvillaco> but the text is too small for me, how can i change the empathy chat text size?  Does anyone know offhand
[03:22] <cvillaco> ?
[03:24] <khoover> should be ctrl++ or ctrl+-
[03:24] <khoover> at least, that works for near everything
[03:30] <cvillaco> not in this case khoover
[03:30] <cvillaco> and i have found no formatting preferences or settings yet either.
[03:30] <cvillaco> thanks for the advice though :)
[03:31] <cvillaco> but no luck so far
[03:32] <dscassel> Hm... lemme poke around...
[03:33] <cvillaco> perhaps this is something which can be changed via  global text sizing for the os?
[03:33] <cvillaco> ok
[03:33] <cvillaco> ty
[03:34] <dscassel> Also weird: the Ubuntu theme doesn't use the Ubuntu font. o_o
[03:34] <cvillaco> touchee!
[03:35] <cvillaco> there are android fonts in the repos ehh?
[03:35] <dscassel> What package?
[03:35] <cvillaco> I have it installed and use the android mono space for terminal
[03:36] <cvillaco> 1 sec, i will try to grep
[03:37] <dscassel> Just searching for "android" in software centre doesn't turn anything up.
[03:38] <cvillaco> in synaptic
[03:38] <cvillaco> ttf-droid
[03:38] <cvillaco> and
[03:39] <dscassel> I've got it installed alread. Awesome. :D
[03:39] <dscassel> Nice mono font. :)
[03:40] <cvillaco> haha, i set it up for my terminal and a few other places i have used it
[03:40] <cvillaco> I think one of the sansarrifs is pretty cool as well
[03:41] <cvillaco> I like the ubuntu sans as well, it is nice, i am surprised it is not in empathy by default, especially setting it to Ubuntu theme.
[03:41] <cvillaco> I have trouble typing right now becasue i have a hand brace, and it is very frusterating to work on the computer with it
[03:42] <cvillaco> maybe the font seeting is in an empathy config file
[03:42] <dscassel> It's not in gconf, far as I can tell.
[03:43] <BobJonkman> The minutes, they be up : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings/2011-08-09
[03:46] <dscassel> Awesome, thanks, BobJonkman
[03:47] <BobJonkman> You're welcome.
[03:47] <BobJonkman> I'm displeased with the vertical spacing that bullet points create
[03:48] <dscassel> Yeah, something's wrong with the CSS for links.
[03:48] <cvillaco> huh?
[03:49] <cvillaco> looks good to me
[03:50] <dscassel> cvillaco: Then you probably aren't using the Ubuntu light theme. :)
[03:50] <dscassel> (Or maybe it's a Firefox thing)
[03:51] <cvillaco> hmm
[03:51] <cvillaco> i do see
[03:52] <cvillaco> some spacing in the ul can you inset css into the template?
[03:52] <cvillaco> i think it's inheriting a line-height of 1.5
[03:53] <cvillaco> hmm
[03:53] <cvillaco> also there are p tags in li, making a double linebreak
[03:53] <cvillaco>  if the p's in li could be changed to non block level
[03:54] <cvillaco> if the css could be changed, im sure the spacing could be fixed, but it might just be the way the develoeprs of the site prefer listing too
[03:54] <cvillaco> i could troubleshoot styles like this but it is hard i have a finger brace on
[03:55] <dscassel> Not sure who you'd complain to.
[03:55] <cvillaco> and it is frusterating to do any navigation or typing
[03:55] <dscassel> Probably ask around in #ubuntu-website
[03:57] <dscassel> cvillaco: If you change the "Documentation font" size in preferences > Appearances, it'll change the font in Empathy.
[03:58] <dscassel> And now it is midnight. I shall retire.
[03:58] <dscassel> 'night all. :)
[03:59] <cvillaco> thanks dscassel.
[03:59] <bregma> nighty-night
[03:59] <bregma> time to leave work at last
[04:32] <DarwinSurvivor> I missed it didn't I...
[04:33] <cvillaco> the LoCo meeting?
[04:34] <DarwinSurvivor> yeah
[04:34] <cvillaco> yes!
[04:34] <cvillaco> just by a few hours though :-)
[04:34] <DarwinSurvivor> the one that started 5 hours ago :P
[04:35] <DarwinSurvivor> lol
[04:35] <DarwinSurvivor> oh well, next time I guess
[04:35] <cvillaco> some of the meeting i think trailed on so im not sure how long since the end, but you missed the start by a few :-)
[04:35] <DarwinSurvivor> anything interresting happen?
[04:37] <cvillaco> im kinda new member,
[04:37] <cvillaco> there were talks about jams happening
[04:37] <cvillaco> here is some information on the meeting
[04:37] <cvillaco> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings/2011-08-09
[04:38] <cvillaco> and a og has been kept
[04:38] <cvillaco> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings/2011-08-09/log
[04:38] <cvillaco> :-)
[04:39] <cvillaco> i would tell more but some of it went over my head, and I have a hand brace
[04:59] <DarwinSurvivor> cool, i'll just take a look at the logs then, thanks
[11:18] <khoover> isn't linuxfest toronto cancelled?
[11:38] <dscassel> khoover: Ontario Linux Fest is reborn!
[11:38] <khoover> dscassel: ooooh, where?
[11:38] <dscassel> Re-named Toronto Linux Fest and rolled into FSOSS at Seneca
[11:39] <dscassel> Oct 27-29 at the York campus http://fsoss.senecac.on.ca/2011/
[11:41] <khoover> i may not be able to attend almost any of it. damn high school.
[11:46] <dscassel> I'm probably only going to be there the Friday and Saturday...
[11:47] <dscassel> I don't have too much vacation left. Unless I can convince my boss it's work-related... 9_9
[12:20] <khoover> god dammit, why is my net fucking up so hard?
[12:21] <IdleOne> i think it's a freenode issue
[12:21] <IdleOne> there were a bunch of Ping timeout earlier
[14:13] <BluesKaj> het folks
[14:13] <BluesKaj> err hey
[14:30] <bregma> greetings all
[14:32] <genii-around> bregma: Good morning. I'm just catching up on the minutes from meeting. Got home last night to find my DSL modem had basically imploded...
[14:33] <BluesKaj> sorry I missed the meeting was busy messing with my other pc , have to dual boot it in order to keep up with W7 ...had to search to find out how to defrag wife's W7 pc :)
[14:37] <bregma> youse guys didn't miss much, just the usual
[14:39] <BluesKaj> youse guys ? :) heh
[14:39] <genii-around> Hm. The Toronto Linuxfest link goes to immutable page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LinuxFest where the dates are from 2009-2010 and the Ontario link starts with "Cancelled"
[14:40] <BluesKaj> btw, hi genii-around , bregma
[14:40] <genii-around> Hi BluesKaj :)
[14:49] <genii-around> I got an email from Sammy Lao at FreeGeek asking if there will be a Toronto release-party for Oneiric.. For whoever is interested, yes. I do not yet have a set date but it will be at the same venue as before.
[14:50] <dscassel> Awesome. Thanks, genii-around
[14:50] <dscassel> Your name came up at the meeting last night. :)
[14:51] <dscassel> genii-around: Toronto Linux Fest is being rolled into FSOSS.
[14:51] <dscassel> Oct 27-29 at the York campus http://fsoss.senecac.on.ca/2011/
[14:54] <genii-around> Yes, after I found that http://onlinux.ca/ page started with "Cancelled" I saw your Nabble link on the sidebar there :)
[14:57] <dscassel> :)
[14:57] <dscassel> OGLF was my first active Ubuntu community participation thing. :)
[14:58] <dscassel> (Speaking of which, if anyone wants to say nice things about me on my wiki page, I won't mind... http://wiki.ubuntu.com/dscassel)
[14:58]  * dscassel is putting himself up for membership next week.
[15:05] <genii-around> Meh. I changed my primary email at Launchpad and deleted the old one, but it still wants me to put the old one to sign in. Weird.
[15:27] <genii-around> dscassel: I put in my two cents worth for you :)
[15:28] <dscassel> Thanks, genii-around :D
[15:38] <genii-around> Anyone have a recommendation for an ADSL modem? I was using a Speedtouch 516 but the insides cooked.
[15:38] <kenjy> whats up guys, did some one called me?
[15:51] <dscassel> kenjy: Just a mass call for the meeting last night. :)
[15:52] <kenjy> dscassel: ufff okay XD
[15:52] <dscassel> Minute here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CanadianTeam/Meetings/2011-08-09