[09:10] <IdleOne> :(
[09:10] <IdleOne> jussi is to fast for me
[11:37] <AlanBell> so we have meetingology as an emergency replacement mootbot
[11:38] <IdleOne> thanks AlanBell
[11:48] <AlanBell> it is running on a server on a slightly dodgy connection and it has some bugs still, but does have some awesome new commands
[11:48] <AlanBell> you can do [topic] or #topic for all commands, they are aliases
[11:49] <AlanBell> you can specify voters, so "#voters nick1 nick2 nick3"
[11:49] <AlanBell> for council meetings etc
[11:49] <AlanBell> you can make a second chair with #chair otherperson
[11:50] <AlanBell> private votes don't work
[11:50] <IdleOne> all documented in the link in topic no doubt
[11:50] <AlanBell> you can't put other stuff after a vote, so you can do "+1" but not "+1 awesome!! woot!"
[11:51] <AlanBell> IdleOne: most of it is, just thought I would leave some notes in channel for the benefit of the chair of the next meeting
[11:51] <AlanBell> and feel free to ping me if it breaks
[11:51] <IdleOne> AlanBell: you rock dude :)
[11:51] <AlanBell> oh, and patches welcome :)
[11:52] <AlanBell> https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bots/ubuntu-bots/meetingology
[15:01]  * stgraber waves
[15:02]  * slangasek waves
[15:02] <mvo> hello
[15:02] <barry> howdy
[15:02] <slangasek> #startmeeting
[15:02] <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Aug 10 15:02:44 2011 UTC.  The chair is slangasek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell.
[15:02] <meetingology> Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting.
[15:03] <slangasek> [TOPIC] lightning round
[15:03] <meetingology> TOPIC: lightning round
[15:03] <slangasek> ... meetingology? that's new
[15:03] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e cjwatson barry doko stgraber jhunt mvo ev bdmurray slangasek)
[15:03] <slangasek> mvo stgraber bdmurray barry cjwatson doko ev slangasek jhunt
[15:03] <barry> did mootbot get a name change?
[15:03] <mvo> meeeh, plese reshuffle, not ready yet
[15:03]  * mvo types like crazy
[15:04] <bdmurray> I can go
[15:04] <slangasek> bdmurray: go for it
[15:04] <bdmurray> email to the kernel team mailing list regarding the apport-kerneloops work I've done for them, kerneloops update to prevent reporting of NETDEV WATCHDOG errors
[15:04] <bdmurray> ubiquity installer-crash tagging script changes to catch python: and not just plugininstall.py:, bug triage of ubiquity installer-crash bug reports, bug triage of iso-testing bug reports about foundations packages
[15:04] <bdmurray> wrote a ubiquity bug pattern for bug 743359 regarding apt locking, bug pattern writing for package installation bug 545790, investigation into aptdaemon bug    659438, email to the foundations team regarding our bugs with patches, modifications to package bugs most recently mailing list query to clarify period
[15:05] <bdmurray> cron job email setup of recent foundations package bugs to myself, investigation into a structural subscribers report in Launchpad - can't find one, writing    bug report for team structurally subscribed bug tasks matching a criteria
[15:05] <bdmurray> bzr branch modifying ubiquity's +filebug info to be ubuntu-bug ubiquity, aptdaemon SRU for bug 797847 regarding checking if apport is disabled on natty
[15:05] <bdmurray> testing code to create a duplicatesignature tag for package installation failures, testing duplicatesignature tag with apport and search existing terminallog   files for duplicates, reviewing of duplicate signatures and triaging of bugs
[15:05] <bdmurray> team membership querying for jcastro and the community team
[15:05]  * mvo is ready now
[15:05]  * bdmurray is done now
[15:05] <mvo> apt: SoC, work on apt-chris, trying to gather more info about ssl connection failure https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+question/166914, debug/fix performance regression due to cache loader, upload new 0.8.16~exp5ubuntu1 and its reverse dependencies (ABI break), add hashsum regression test, ensure that the hashes are checked for unsinged release files too (debian Bug#636314), work on debdelta integration (lp:~mvo/a
[15:05] <mvo> pt/apt-ishan )
[15:05] <mvo> update-notifier: work on synpatic-less version, uploaded
[15:05] <mvo> command-not-found: merge fixes from the new version and upload, thanks to zyga
[15:05] <mvo> update-manager: review/merge lp:~evfool/update-manager/fix817785, debug/fix #808738 crash in u-m
[15:05] <mvo> software-center: add show-exhibit functionatlity and add featured exhibit, review/merge lp:~mmcg069/software-center/back-forward-nav-button-fix, work on lp:~mvo/software-center/sortable-app-tree-view, lp:~mmcg069/software-center/themeable-globalpane, review/merge lp:~gary-lasker/software-center/list-view-stars-gtk3, phonecall about exhibits/html, create a bunch of tracking bugs for python3 packages that are missing for s-c, py3 compat fixes
[15:06] <mvo> pango: debug/fix pango annotation issue, push upstream, cherry pick git, upload new version, review/merge/fix lp:~mmcg069/software-center/top-rated-subcats, add LocaleAwareWebview that sends language-header info, pyflakes fixes, improve testrunner, fix crash in channels changed code, code cleanup, hunt 100% cpu usage issue (spawn helper bug)
[15:06] <mvo> app-install-data: work on reducing the icon data size (rally good results)
[15:06] <mvo> EOF
[15:06] <stgraber> sorry, I still need a minute to finish mine :(
[15:07] <jp_Hranice> Whot is wrong Ubuntu ISO testing tracker ? Some ISOs are not longer avaible. :-(
[15:07] <slangasek> mvo: what's "apt-chris"?
[15:07] <mvo> its a summer of code branch that contains improvements to the ordering code
[15:07] <cjwatson> jp_Hranice: this is a meeting channel with a team meeting in progress; please try #ubuntu-testing
[15:08] <mvo> its looks really good, but that is a delicate part of the code, so I'm working on some tests with the new code (i.e. lucid->maverick, lucid->oneiric etc) to ensure there are no regressions
[15:08] <jp_Hranice> cjwatson: Thank you
[15:08] <slangasek> mvo: aha, ok
[15:08] <barry> stgraber: do you want me to go next?
[15:08] <stgraber> barry: please
[15:08] <barry> was on vacation last week; this week: bug 788514 (pyicu, pycurl, liblouis, python-inotify, pywebkitgtk, ibus-anthy, python-smbc sponsored, python-magic sponsored, pyxdg sponsored, vte merge proposed), bug 822844 (review python-keyring sync request); argparse sync advice. todo: complete 788514 work, look at sphinx sync, lucid ppa.  done.
[15:09] <stgraber> ok, I'm ready now :)
[15:09] <stgraber> Last week:
[15:09] <stgraber>  - Did some multipath install testing on Oneiric
[15:09] <stgraber>  - Got tpm-tools to build on Oneiric
[15:09] <stgraber> Working on Arkose and LXC this week:
[15:09] <stgraber>  - Got everything to use gettext
[15:09] <stgraber>  - Dropped old socket proxy and replaced by new dbus proxy
[15:09] <stgraber>  - Switched to a generic device node passthrough (instead of video only)
[15:09] <stgraber>  - Got LXC upstream to fix some console initialization issues affecting arkose
[15:09] <stgraber>  - Dropped a lot of unused device access rights given by default by arkose
[15:09] <stgraber>  - Improved the command line interface a bit
[15:10] <stgraber> Remaining (before feature freeze):
[15:10] <stgraber>  - Update packaging and build process to support gettext and the dbus code
[15:10] <stgraber>  - UI rewrite
[15:10] <stgraber>  - Network access restriction (firewalling)
[15:10] <stgraber>  - Get DBUS filtering in the wrapper
[15:10] <stgraber>  - Extend arkose-cli (merge a patch from a contributor)
[15:10] <stgraber>  - Write some missing manpages
[15:10] <stgraber> Other stuff:
[15:10] <stgraber>  - Got edubuntu-live to finally show a translated installer
[15:10] <stgraber>  - Trying to fix weblive in software-center (broken at the moment)
[15:10] <stgraber> (done)
[15:10] <stgraber> oh, and I'll be in Vancouver next week for Linuxcon
[15:11] <bdmurray> oh right I'll be in London next week for a defect analyst sprint
[15:12] <cjwatson> ah yes, it's my turn
[15:12] <cjwatson> Last two weeks were DebConf (excellent!) then holiday, so I'm rather behind generally and have been trying to catch up.
[15:12] <cjwatson> This week:
[15:12] <cjwatson>  * Converted all my mail to offlineimap+notmuch.  The initial sync has eaten virtually all my laptop's I/O for several days straight and notmuch hasn't quite finished yet, but I should be able to keep up with e-mail much better at conferences now.  offlineimap is *really* nice.
[15:12] <cjwatson>  * Lots of archive admin trying to clear queues in time for feature freeze: syncs, MIRs, etc.
[15:12] <cjwatson>  * Landed IPv6 support in d-i.  As a bonus, Gaudenz got WPA support done at DebConf, so I got to land that too.
[15:12] <cjwatson>  * Landed USB seeds for Allison; should be able to work on converting the DVD images over to those later this week.
[15:12] <cjwatson>  * Merged new version of ntfs-3g to try to keep down the size of the lynch mob come Oneiric.
[15:12] <cjwatson>  * About to start putting a syslinux-themes-ubuntu package together, which is blocking the language-specific image work.  I think this is my last urgent thing for feature freeze. *cough*
[15:12] <cjwatson> --
[15:13] <slangasek> wpa - whoo
[15:14] <slangasek> doko:
[15:15] <doko> - Linaro Connect last week
[15:15] <doko> - one last round of toolchain updates
[15:15] <doko> - some bug triage for GCC and binutils
[15:15] <doko> - merged a finally working-on-multiarch eglibc version, after *some* testing
[15:15] <doko> - JamVM updates for OpenJDK 6 and 7
[15:15] <doko> - Once these updates are in the archive, I'll start a test rebuild.
[15:15] <slangasek> cjwatson: is notmuch making you super-productive?
[15:15] <doko> --
[15:16] <cjwatson> slangasek: I'm just using it for cross-mailbox search, not in the ueber james_w mode
[15:16] <ev> - Trying to get a build of ubiquity out. Was originally blocked by pbuilder
[15:16] <ev>   issues, now am in a mess of silly build-dependencies for the unit tests.
[15:16] <ev> - Fixed Glade not including its pythonglade module.
[15:16] <ev> - Fixed some more issues around Wubi firstboot.
[15:16] <ev> - Wrote a webcam module in C, binding to gstreamer and udev, after my
[15:16] <ev>   adventures in PyGI drove me to madness. Was originally going to use Cheese,
[15:16] <ev>   but they're all about the GNOME Shell now.
[15:16] <ev> - Integrated the wireless networking module into the installer.
[15:16] <mvo> should I ditch mutt in favor of notmutch?
[15:16] <cjwatson> right now it's killing my I/O so no :-)
[15:16] <ev> - Finally landed the ubiquity PyGI branch.
[15:16] <ev> - Gtk3 CSS hell.
[15:16] <ev> - Trying to get mkswap in Windows without a cygwin dependency nightmare.
[15:16] <ev> - Investigated doing Wubi migration from the Windows side. Need to user test
[15:16] <ev>   to find out whether doing the migration from Windows or a Live CD provides
[15:16] <ev>   the most benefit.
[15:16] <ev> - Merged some ubiquity branches.
[15:16] <ev> TODO:
[15:16] <ev> - libtimezonemap MIR.
[15:16] <ev> - Split camerabin2 into its own package and write a MIR.
[15:16] <ev> (done)
[15:16] <cjwatson> mvo: I'm continuing to use mutt, and just using notmuch for search; Stefano Zacchiroli's blog has some tidbits on using them in tandem
[15:16] <barry> cjwatson: that's one thing that mail.app has that i've not seen anywhere else (cross mailbox search)
[15:17] <mvo> thanks cjwatson, I give it a go
[15:17] <cjwatson> barry: there are several command-line indexers around that provide it - notmuch is just the current leader
[15:18] <cjwatson> webcam/cheese> ah yes, I saw that you'd dropped the cheese module, glad to see you found a small replacement
[15:18] <cjwatson> well found/wrote :-)
[15:18] <ev> :)
[15:18] <slangasek> "dropped the cheese module" - wait, there was a webcam in ubiquity?
[15:18] <barry> ev: i can probably fire up a windows vm if you need some additional testing
[15:18] <ev> slangasek: we'd like to be able to take a user photo
[15:18] <cjwatson> the cheese module was built but not actually glued in
[15:18] <slangasek> ev: ah
[15:18] <ev> indeed
[15:18] <barry> cjwatson: cool, gotta put that on the list!
[15:19] <ev> barry: thanks, but with the MSDN license I've got more copies of windows than I'll ever know what to do with
[15:19] <ev> yay
[15:19] <barry> ev: just be sure it works on win95
[15:19] <ev> barry: I'm half-tempted to throw XP to the wolves
[15:19] <cjwatson> ubiquity/pygi> excellent, I know that's been a long road
[15:19] <slangasek> so it's not a case of ev trying to be that guy in Florida who was helping college girls with their laptops and causing their cameras to mysteriously drain their batteries ;)
[15:19] <ev> one covered in broken glass and rusty nails, eys
[15:19] <ev> yes*
[15:20] <ev> wait what?
[15:20] <ev> ohhh
[15:20] <ev> a bit slow on the uptake, I am
[15:20] <slangasek> ah, seems to be my go
[15:20] <slangasek> DebConf, upstart sprint, and sick last week; now playing catch-up
[15:20] <slangasek> took lots of drugs in order to help with a3 crank-turning last week
[15:20] <slangasek> have a new plan of attack on upstart in Debian that avoids the all-or-nothing trap
[15:20] <slangasek> need to do some work on multiarch in Debian; eglibc is in an unhappy state... fortunately (or unfortunately) got myself added as an eglibc package committer during DebConf
[15:20] <slangasek> helped with dh_python2 migration
[15:20] <slangasek> (done)
[15:20] <slangasek> fixed bug #816740 in libpeas so totem runs on amd64
[15:21] <doko> -16 looks almost ine
[15:21] <barry> slangasek: what got decided for upstart? (is there a link or mlist thread i can catch up on?)
[15:22] <slangasek> barry: no mlist discussion about the Debian strategy, the critical path there is single-threaded still unfortunately
[15:22] <slangasek> I need to hack startpar to understand upstart jobs :P
[15:22]  * barry nods
[15:22] <slangasek> doko: yep, though we still need the multiarch-compat package
[15:23] <doko> ahh, yes
[15:23] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[15:23] <meetingology> TOPIC: AOB
[15:24] <slangasek> everyone nervous about Feature Freeze?
[15:24] <cjwatson> yes
[15:24] <bdmurray> no talking about bugs?
[15:24] <barry> always :)
[15:24] <ev> feature what now? I've just been running on the assumption that I can keep uploading whatever I want until release day.
[15:24] <cjwatson> but then I always am :)
[15:24] <ev> Is that not the case?
[15:24]  * cjwatson aims a loaded trout at ev
[15:25] <ev> :)
[15:25] <slangasek> bdmurray: whoops, sorry, I'm out of practice
[15:25] <mvo> feature freeze> YES
[15:25] <slangasek> ev: hmm, we may need to revisit this working-from-the-office situation with you... picking up some habits? :)
[15:25] <mvo> lol
[15:26] <slangasek> any other other business... or shall we move on (back) to bugs? :)
[15:26] <ev> slangasek: lol
[15:27] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Bugs
[15:27] <meetingology> TOPIC: Bugs
[15:27] <slangasek> bdmurray: over to you!
[15:28] <bdmurray> right so a few bugs I ran across in the past week are bug 386763
[15:28] <bdmurray> I was finding a few duplicates of that yesterday and there may be more hiding
[15:28] <slangasek> hnngh defoma
[15:29] <bdmurray> It only has about 40 though so perhaps that should be a someday later bug
[15:29] <slangasek> are those being reported against recent releases?
[15:29] <slangasek> the longterm plan here is to shoot defoma in the head
[15:30] <slangasek> and there was work at DebCamp on getting the last font packages migrated away from it
[15:30] <bdmurray> DistroRelease [5] Ubuntu 8.10: 352328, 362808, 370130, 371811, 376776 [5] Ubuntu 9.10: 463024, 537437, 549173, 549778, 560156 [2] Ubuntu 11.04: 772701, 795360 [12] Ubuntu 10.04: 544359, 651175, 654259, 738708, 769872, 780796, 789639, 789699, 790299, 796504, 796505, 796506
[15:31] <bdmurray> so a couple of 11.04 duplicates
[15:31]  * slangasek nods
[15:31] <slangasek> gah, it looks like the ubuntu font packages are using defoma even
[15:31] <bdmurray> heh
[15:32] <cjwatson> defoma> iirc slows down dvd installation by not being triggerised ...
[15:32] <slangasek> right, so I'm pretty sure no one's going to work on fixing defoma, but maybe we can speed up its demise
[15:32] <bdmurray> I'll see if I find any more duplicates but imagine the defoma bug isn't that important
[15:33] <bdmurray> bug 545790 has nearly 300 duplicates
[15:33] <mvo> bdmurray: hm, any clues on what is running dpkg when this is happening? aptdaemon? packagekit?
[15:34] <bdmurray> mvo: oh we can look into the history log attachment now right?
[15:35] <mvo> bdmurray: yeah
[15:35]  * mvo looks at a recent one
[15:35] <bdmurray> mvo: hrm neither of the 11.10 dupilcates have the history log
[15:35] <bdmurray> duplicates 789291 and 793795 are from oneiric
[15:37] <bdmurray> mvo: so I guess we should ask for people to provide the history.log from when the experienced the error?
[15:37] <mvo> yeah, that would be good to get additional clues whats going on there
[15:37] <bdmurray> okay got it
[15:38] <bdmurray> bug 702283 turned up during iso testing
[15:40] <bdmurray> ev: do you have any thoughts about that one?
[15:40] <slangasek> do we have full-on hybrid ISOs these days?  Does the amd64+mac image work as a hybrid?
[15:41] <ev> unless we went with something like mjg59's super hybrid beast, that wouldn't buy us EFI, no?
[15:41] <cjwatson> I think we *need* to go with something like mjg59's super hybrid beast
[15:41] <cjwatson> but he's doing the work in isohybrid and we'll need it in xorriso
[15:41] <cjwatson> amd64+mac ought to work as hybrid but that's EFI-less
[15:42] <cjwatson> mjg59's work should let us get rid of amd64+mac, I believe
[15:42] <cjwatson> ... "as long as you're willing to put up with three partition tables and an x86 boot sector that doubles as an APM header"
[15:42]  * slangasek grins
[15:42] <ev> heh and a billion boot options to choose from on recent Mac hardware
[15:42] <stgraber> can't see anything wrong with that ;)
[15:42] <cjwatson> haven't got round to talking with xorriso upstream yet though
[15:43] <bdmurray> so it sounds like there is a lot of work needed there
[15:44] <slangasek> yep
[15:44] <cjwatson> it's certainly not trivial, though there is also a lot of reason to do the wowrk
[15:44] <cjwatson> *work
[15:44] <bdmurray> slangasek: regarding bug 822542 I thought there was a plymouth bug regarding nothing being displayed?
[15:45] <slangasek> there are many plymouth bugs about varying degrees of nothing being displayed :/
[15:45] <slangasek> there's one open about text failing to display
[15:46] <bdmurray> and the disk check is text right?
[15:46] <slangasek> yes
[15:46] <slangasek> ah, yeah, reading the bug description, looks like the same issue
[15:47] <slangasek> bugf #812022
[15:47] <slangasek> bug #812022
[15:47] <bdmurray> slangasek: great, thanks!
[15:47] <bdmurray> that's all I had for this week
[15:47] <slangasek> I haven't debugged that yet because plymouth:debug boot options don't seem to be working right
[15:48] <slangasek> bdmurray: cool, thank you
[15:48] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[15:48] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Aug 10 15:48:22 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell . (v 0.1.4)
[15:48] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://mootbot.libertus.co.uk/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-10-15.02.moin.txt
[15:48] <slangasek> and thanks, everyone!
[15:48] <barry> thanks!
[15:49] <stgraber> thanks!
[15:49] <ev> thanks!
[15:49] <mvo> thanks
[16:36] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu QA meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 25 minutes. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
[16:59]  * charlie-tca waves
[17:00] <patrickmw> hello charlie-tca
[17:00] <charlie-tca> Hello, patrickmw
[17:00] <charlie-tca> Anyone else here for today's meeting?
[17:00] <Ursinha> o/
[17:01] <charlie-tca> Hello, Ursinha
[17:01] <Ursinha> hi charlie-tca
[17:01] <charlie-tca> Great! Let's get started then?
[17:01] <patrickmw> charlie-tca, they're here
[17:01] <charlie-tca> #startmeeting
[17:01] <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Aug 10 17:01:22 2011 UTC.  The chair is charlie-tca. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell.
[17:01] <meetingology> Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting.
[17:01] <charlie-tca> Welcome to the weekly QA meeting
[17:01] <charlie-tca> The agenda is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings
[17:02] <komputes> o/
[17:02] <charlie-tca> Previous Actions (all)
[17:02] <charlie-tca> Community Efforts/Testing
[17:02] <charlie-tca> Automated/Systems Testing
[17:02] <charlie-tca> Engineering Team Bug Status
[17:02] <charlie-tca> Other Topics
[17:02] <charlie-tca> Chair Selection
[17:02] <charlie-tca> komputes: question?
[17:02] <komputes> no, just marking that I'm present
[17:03] <charlie-tca> I know we are trying to get everyone to use .. in meetings now, so please try to remember that means you are done speaking.
[17:03] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[17:03] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] Previous Actions
[17:03] <meetingology> TOPIC: Previous Actions
[17:03] <charlie-tca> I can't think of anything, can anyone else?
[17:04] <hggdh> no from here
[17:04] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] Community Efforts/Testing
[17:04] <meetingology> TOPIC: Community Efforts/Testing
[17:04] <charlie-tca> pedro?
[17:04] <jibel> I'm here
[17:04] <jibel> Hey all!
[17:04] <charlie-tca> anyone?
[17:04] <charlie-tca> Hello, jibel
[17:04] <jibel> Main activity was A3 testing
[17:04] <charlie-tca> Who has community Efforts today?
[17:05] <jibel> Testing report available at
[17:05] <jibel> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/ReleaseReports/OneiricAlpha3TestReport
[17:05] <jibel> The following bugs have been identified from the A3 testing:
[17:05] <jibel> [LINK] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/report
[17:06] <jibel> the bot doesn't understand [LINK] anymore ?
[17:06] <jibel> #link http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/report
[17:06] <jibel> :(
[17:06] <charlie-tca> um, it might be broken, but that's okay, use it
[17:06] <jibel> I won't fight against that thing
[17:06] <jibel> so back to A3
[17:07] <jibel> The expectation is that the bugs will reviewed by the proper team before the end of this week and worked as appropriate.
[17:07] <jibel> thanks for everyone who help with testing !
[17:07] <jibel> ..
[17:07] <charlie-tca> This is a different bot than normal, since mootbot quit working
[17:08] <charlie-tca> Thank you very much, jibel
[17:08] <charlie-tca> Any questions ?
[17:08] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] Automated/Systems Testing
[17:08] <meetingology> TOPIC: Automated/Systems Testing
[17:08] <patrickmw> = QA Lab =
[17:08] <patrickmw> • public jenkins still in progress. working through technical issues with IS
[17:08] <patrickmw> = DX Testing =
[17:08] <patrickmw> • Creating isolated VM environment for DX to run tests
[17:08] <patrickmw> ∘ Env has been tested locally, currently migrating images to lab
[17:08] <patrickmw> • DX team expected to have the ability to add projects this week
[17:08] <patrickmw> ..
[17:09] <charlie-tca> Thank you, patrickmw
[17:09] <charlie-tca> Questions on automated testing?
[17:09] <charlie-tca> or comments
[17:09] <komputes> Yes indeed
[17:09] <charlie-tca> go ahead, please
[17:10] <komputes> I was wondering if there was any advancement on building a database of users with hardware who are willing to preform hw specific tests.
[17:10] <komputes> ..
[17:10] <hggdh> I am not aware of any advances in this area, currently
[17:11] <komputes> moving on then ..
[17:11] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[17:11] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] Engineering Team Bug Status
[17:11] <meetingology> TOPIC: Engineering Team Bug Status
[17:11] <charlie-tca> Ursinha: update?
[17:12] <Ursinha> charlie-tca: yes yes
[17:12] <Ursinha> I've been working on triaging bugs for the server team, to improve the process
[17:12] <Ursinha> and I've added another report to our list: http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[17:13] <Ursinha> this is based on a report Daviey created for the release meetings, there's also a wiki output version
[17:13] <Ursinha> I'm compiling all reports in lp:~ubuntu-defect-analysts/+junk
[17:14] <Ursinha> and looking forward to meet all the other defect analysts next week in our sprint :)
[17:14] <Ursinha> ..
[17:14] <charlie-tca> That's a nice tracking chart.
[17:14] <charlie-tca> bdmurray: any updates today?
[17:15] <bdmurray> charlie-tca: Hi, sorry just a sec
[17:15] <charlie-tca> no problem
[17:16] <bdmurray> I've modified ubiquity to recommend people use ubuntu-bug instead of going to +filebug and adding log files manually
[17:17] <bdmurray> I'm actively working on a duplicate signature for package installation failures to reduce the number of duplicates we get of those
[17:17] <bdmurray> I've also updated kerneloops to prevent reporting of NETDEV WATCHDOG errors
[17:17] <bdmurray> that's about it
[17:17] <charlie-tca> Thank you!
[17:17] <bdmurray> well, that's the most intersting bits ;-)
[17:17] <charlie-tca> I hate having to attach those logs
[17:18] <charlie-tca> hm, I don't we have a bug day tomorrow, due to the desktop summit
[17:18] <charlie-tca> at least I can use that excuse
[17:18] <charlie-tca> any questions/comments?
[17:19] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] Any Other Business?
[17:19] <meetingology> TOPIC: Any Other Business?
[17:19] <charlie-tca> open floor for anything to be discussed
[17:20] <hggdh> <- not here
[17:20] <charlie-tca> heh
[17:20] <hggdh> :-)
[17:20] <charlie-tca> hggdh: did you have anything today?
[17:20] <hggdh> no, I am cool
[17:20] <charlie-tca> You been kind of quiet
[17:20] <hggdh> sort of busy, unfortunately
[17:20] <pgraner> charlie-tca, o/
[17:21] <charlie-tca> [TOPIC] Chair Selection
[17:21] <meetingology> TOPIC: Chair Selection
[17:21] <charlie-tca> go ahead, pgraner
[17:21] <charlie-tca> or are you next chair?
[17:21] <pgraner> charlie-tca, just wanted to welcome a new canonical QA team member gema
[17:21] <pgraner> she started monday and will be coming up to speed
[17:21] <pgraner> ..
[17:22] <charlie-tca> Welcome to QA
[17:22] <hggdh> gema!
[17:22] <Ursinha> pgraner: she's not here?
[17:22] <charlie-tca> Always to good to have more people!
[17:22] <pgraner> Ursinha, yep, wanted to make the community aware tho
[17:22] <Ursinha> pgraner: just wanted to greet her :)
[17:22] <charlie-tca> Well, then, as you come across gema, welcome her to the group
[17:23] <pgraner> charlie-tca, thanks
[17:23] <Ursinha> (just did on #ubuntu-server)
[17:23] <charlie-tca> and now, back to that most wonderful moment of all, a new chair?
[17:23] <charlie-tca> any volunteers?
[17:24] <charlie-tca> $ shuf -e hggdh, patrickmw pedro_ bdmurray jibel Ursinha|head -1
[17:24] <Ursinha> ah the winner is....
[17:24] <Ursinha> s/ah/and/
[17:24] <charlie-tca> I have no idea how to work this
[17:24] <charlie-tca> lol
[17:24] <charlie-tca> maybe it don't work too?
[17:24] <pgraner> charlie-tca, many of us will be away a a sprint next week
[17:24] <Ursinha> ursula@galactica: ~ $ shuf -e hggdh, patrickmw pedro_ bdmurray jibel Ursinha|head -1
[17:24] <Ursinha> pedro_
[17:25] <Ursinha> I will, and pedro_, bdmurray
[17:25] <charlie-tca> Okay, bdmurray was going to have this one. Maybe he would be so kind as to take next week?
[17:26] <Ursinha> charlie-tca: we're going to be sprinting next week
[17:26] <Ursinha> me, pedro, bdmurray and pgraner
[17:26] <charlie-tca> oh
[17:26] <charlie-tca> well, then
[17:26] <charlie-tca> hggdh: you want a turn?
[17:26] <hggdh> aye :-)
[17:27] <charlie-tca> Thank you!
[17:27] <charlie-tca> next meeting chair will be hggdh
[17:27] <hggdh> charlie-tca: you are always welcome, sir
[17:27] <charlie-tca> If there is no other business, thank all of you for participating in the meeting.
[17:27] <charlie-tca> #endmeeting
[17:27] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Aug 10 17:27:36 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell . (v 0.1.4)
[17:27] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://mootbot.libertus.co.uk/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-10-17.01.moin.txt
[17:27] <hggdh> thank you for chairing, charlie-tca
[17:27] <Ursinha> thanks charlie-tca!
[17:27] <hggdh> cd /var/log/installer
[17:27] <charlie-tca> you are most welcome, of course
[17:28] <hggdh> ugh, worng channel, sorry
[17:28] <charlie-tca> That works in a channel?
[17:28] <Ursinha> hggdh: command not found
[17:28] <Ursinha> :P
[17:28] <hggdh> heh
[18:37] <AlanBell> I will be moving meetingology between hosts and probably changing the name and registering it later
[18:37] <AlanBell> I will try not to do so when active meetings are running
[18:38] <Mkaysi> Are you going to also update it? Ubuntu repository version is old, but everything happens in git. Actually in forks git.
[19:31] <AlanBell> #startmeeting
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[19:31] <AlanBell> #topic lets talk about something
[19:31] <meetingology> TOPIC: lets talk about something
[19:31] <AlanBell> anyone here want to help test the new mootbot?
[19:32] <AlanBell> #endmeeting
[19:32] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Aug 10 19:32:02 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot . (v 0.1.4)
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