[00:00] <[THC]AcidRain> ./adduser?
[00:00] <noob232> hi, i have problems with my backlight brightness
[00:00] <ChrisRJersey> what's the problem noob232?
[00:00] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: adduser, yes
[00:01] <ircmonkey> brr
[00:01] <zabomber> !adduser | [THC]AcidRain
[00:01] <madeentje> does anyone know if booting ubuntu 11.04 64bit in 13-15 secs on an SSD with seqentual read speed of 285MBps is normal?
[00:01] <noob232> if i start from live cd, FN + Arrow Up & Down works for changing the brightness.. It shows the slider, no problems.. In my installation it showed the slider, but didnt change the brightness
[00:01] <ircmonkey> madeentje depends on your ssd
[00:01] <ircmonkey> my ssd does ~500+
[00:01] <ircmonkey> MB/s :p
[00:01] <irrumator_> I just installed PHP, MySQL, and Apache2 from synaptic. How do I get them all to talk to each other so i can work on my PHP and MySQL sites from my computer easily from /var/www/ ?
[00:01] <madeentje> mine too ircmonkey, but i'm on 3Gbps you see :/
[00:02] <zabomber> !lamp | irrumator
[00:02] <movingahead> leave #ubuntu
[00:02] <noob232> also if i start the CD with no_acpi, i can also turn off the backlight, which worked NEVER before
[00:02] <ircmonkey> then  your max will be 300MB/s
[00:02] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, no i cant. it works fine on the new user i created
[00:02] <madeentje> it's an M4 Crucial 128GB
[00:02] <ircmonkey> then its reasonable with some overhead
[00:02] <ircmonkey> so
[00:02] <madeentje> but 13-15 secs seems so long...so i think something is wrong...because on youtube and forums and all i see ppl who say they boot in 3-5 secs, and like 8 secs max
[00:02] <ircmonkey> is that with post included?
[00:02] <madeentje> and several ppl i know with a regular HDD boot within 20 secs
[00:03] <ircmonkey> like i said
[00:03] <ircmonkey> is that with POST included?
[00:03] <madeentje> no, it's "recorded" by bootchart
[00:03] <noob232> ChrisRJersey: I already read i might be a problem with nvidia drivers, im doing a fresh install right now
[00:03] <ircmonkey> that is the power on self test
[00:03] <madeentje> so without POST
[00:03] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: so there seem to be 2 issues, right? 1) gnome-appearance-properties isn't able to change the icon theme and 2) even if you change the gconf value for your icon theme, nautilus does not take notice
[00:03] <ircmonkey> if you have an old laptop -> with old bios it will take a while
[00:03] <madeentje> POST takes almost 20 secs on its own ><
[00:03] <ircmonkey> >_<
[00:03] <ircmonkey> fail :p
[00:03] <madeentje> but after POST, it still takes 13-15 secs
[00:03] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, right
[00:03] <[THC]AcidRain> so this means.....
[00:04] <ircmonkey> well thats not incredibly fast then
[00:04] <madeentje> and that seems look :/, should be around 5 secs if i google around...
[00:04] <ircmonkey> my MBP bootsup in 20 secs (post included i mean) :P
[00:04] <madeentje> wow nice :d
[00:04] <[THC]AcidRain> can i just replace all of the .gnome files with the etc/skel ?
[00:04] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: pastebin your ~/.xsession-errors .  Also, try running gnome-appearance-properties in a terminal and changing the theme.  Is there any terminal output?
[00:04] <madeentje> so....something's probably wrong :/
[00:04] <ircmonkey> what gfx do you have?
[00:04] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: you could just delete them if you don't mind losing your settings.  Sure.
[00:04] <ircmonkey> i had an ssd in my old laptop
[00:04] <ircmonkey> same prob
[00:04] <ircmonkey> it was the nvidia drivers which were buggy
[00:05] <ircmonkey> and loading for 15 secs of the approx 20 - 25 secs
[00:05] <madeentje> i've done EVERYthing i could find on the internet about SSD improvement on linux, and done all that, and everything seems to work, excep for....partition alignment, i'll explain in a sec
[00:05] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, command was not found
[00:05] <madeentje> my gfx is an Asus EAH (HD) 4890
[00:05] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: for what?
[00:05] <ircmonkey> ah
[00:05] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, if i delete them. the only settings i will lose is my apperance correct?
[00:05] <madeentje> was top-notch 2 years ago :P
[00:05] <ircmonkey> so ati.
[00:05] <madeentje> yup
[00:05] <[THC]AcidRain> for xsession-errors
[00:05] <ircmonkey> i have same in my desktop so.
[00:05] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: ~/.xsession-errors is text file
[00:05] <irrumator_> nvm, i just tested with <?php phpinfo(); ?> file and it all seems to be interoperating. something wrong with wordpress maybe
[00:05] <[THC]AcidRain> lol
[00:05] <madeentje> ah oke :D
[00:05] <ircmonkey> oc'd version but ok *
[00:05] <madeentje> cool
[00:06] <madeentje> so....that shouldn't be the issue either?
[00:06] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: there's more than just appearance information in ~/.gnome2 and ~/.gconf
[00:06] <ircmonkey> don't know if there's a measurement prog for your prob
[00:06] <madeentje> well, you know bootchart?
[00:06] <ircmonkey> *asks in this chan..
[00:06] <ircmonkey> nope
[00:06] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: here's a third thing for you to do: pastebin /home/acidrain/.gconf/desktop/gnome/interface/%gconf.xml
[00:06] <madeentje> that measures your boottime, and shows all processes being started and all
[00:06] <ircmonkey> i dont analyse booting up stuff myself since im on mac os x :P and all is fine haha :P
[00:06] <madeentje> and how long they take
[00:06] <ircmonkey> so what boot process took so long?
[00:06] <madeentje> ye ><, would do the same if it was all fine :)
[00:06] <ircmonkey> then we can look into that :p
[00:07] <madeentje> well..they all seem to take a while
[00:07] <noob232> someone can help me?
[00:07] <madeentje> want me to give you the link to the file? i uploaded it
[00:07] <ircmonkey> there must be something thats delaying
[00:07] <irrumator_> ok, so whenever i navigate to localhost/wordpress/ on my box, i should see the index.php file to setup wordpress correct? for some reason, apache is serving me up a download file. i think this is a problem with compression of files or something. how do i fix this/
[00:07] <ircmonkey> sure.
[00:07] <madeentje> oke ty
[00:07] <[THC]AcidRain> i dont have an xsession-errors file
[00:07] <ircmonkey> i think you have one thing thats delaying the other processes ;)
[00:07] <[THC]AcidRain> http://pastebin.com/6VUaiznY
[00:07] <madeentje> http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7125/dimitridesktopnatty2011.png
[00:07] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: type this in your terminal: gedit ~/.xsession-errors
[00:07] <madeentje> oh really? :o
[00:08] <[THC]AcidRain> http://pastebin.com/0VnP4iHX
[00:08] <ircmonkey> not sure
[00:08] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, im sry i cant find things. i swear it wasnt there a second ago
[00:08] <ircmonkey> or your ssd is die-ing :P
[00:08] <ircmonkey> haha
[00:08] <madeentje> ircmonkey: but euh, about the partition alignment i talked about earlier, that's the ONLY thing i didn't do for SSD improvement that i could find on the internet
[00:08] <madeentje> my partition starts at sector 63
[00:08] <madeentje> so that's totally wrong
[00:09] <ircmonkey> or it just doesnt have enough iops :P
[00:09] <madeentje> that's for old HDD's
[00:09] <madeentje> but it did perfectly fine on windows
[00:09] <ircmonkey> in comparison with other ssd's :p
[00:09] <madeentje> windows booted in like 15 secs =S
[00:09] <robin0800> [THC]AcidRain, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[00:09] <madeentje> windows 7
[00:09] <ircmonkey> yeah windows does itself
[00:09] <[THC]AcidRain> 11.04
[00:09] <ircmonkey> alignment
[00:09] <irrumator_> ok, so i flushed my browser cache and I see the error establishing db conn error. that's good. i know my way from here. thanks guys.
[00:09] <madeentje> yes
[00:09] <MoMo> how can i tell if my ubuntu is 64 bit or 32 bit?
[00:09] <madeentje> so the alignment is probably what's delaying it?
[00:09] <ircmonkey> and optimatizing - also turns fragmentation off ;)
[00:09] <rbnswartz> Does anyone know if the nvidia geforce 9800M GTS will work on ubuntu 11.04?
[00:09] <madeentje> yes yes :p, no fragmentation
[00:09] <edbian> MoMo: uname -a
[00:09] <ircmonkey> could be (small chance i think)
[00:09] <noob232> who has laptop backlight working?
[00:10] <ircmonkey> who doesnt n00b :P
[00:10] <madeentje> hmm...well, thing is, i don't know how to correctly align it now :S
[00:10] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: when you get a chance try running gnome-appearance-properties from a terminal
[00:10] <richard-> question: how do i stop ubuntu from booting directly into xwindows/gnome?  i'd like to just get to the console at the moment.
[00:10] <ircmonkey> backlight keyboard, backlight lcd :p
[00:10] <edbian> ircmonkey: Is there a way to turn it off without shutting down the machine?
[00:10] <madeentje> i read everywhere ubuntu 11.04 does it autoamtically for you
[00:10] <h00k> !who
[00:10] <hdon-> hi all :) i am trying to install lsb, but it says i have unfulfilled dependencies that won't be installed. i tried to install lsb with -f, tried installing dependencies with -f and it gave me another list of packages that won't be installed. am i chasing the rabbit down the wrong hole?
[00:10] <noob232> ircmonkey: me, it works in the live-cd.. but not on my installation
[00:10] <madeentje> the correct alignment
[00:10] <madeentje> but seems like it's bugged for me...
[00:10] <ircmonkey> madeentje --> I dont really think its a problem the alignment.
[00:10] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, that loaded the normal theme manager...
[00:11] <pwnty> firefox is giving me hard time in Natty, keeps crashing every now and then, any suggestion for another browser thats good?
[00:11] <ircmonkey> if you'd like to find out
[00:11] <h00k> !who | madeentje, ircmonkey
[00:11] <ircmonkey> reinstall
[00:11] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: right, now try to change icon theme and look for terminal output
[00:11] <ircmonkey> and look up the perfect alignment for your ssd
[00:11] <madeentje> ircmonkey: hmm oke....
[00:11] <noob232> ircmonkey: doing, right now
[00:11] <ircmonkey> i guess use something like gparted or something
[00:11] <ircmonkey> for that
[00:11] <madeentje> oke, srr ubottu
[00:11] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, no terminal output
[00:11] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: and you are unable to select a different icon theme?
[00:12] <[THC]AcidRain> i CAN select
[00:12] <ircmonkey> BUT madeentje
[00:12] <ircmonkey> look at the graphical chart
[00:12] <madeentje> ircmonkey: yes, i'll do that, but i'm scared to do it manually...ubuntu should do it autoamtically correct for me :/, i'll try once more, if it's bugged again, i guess i'll have to do it manually ye..
[00:12] <madeentje> yes?
[00:12] <ircmonkey> you see -> iops -> waiting for your storage
[00:12] <ircmonkey> is the red graph
[00:12] <madeentje> lemme see
[00:12] <ircmonkey> which is very high in the beginning ;)
[00:12] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: so it remembers your selection, it's just that nautilus doesn't reflect the change visually?
[00:13] <[THC]AcidRain> right
[00:13] <ircmonkey> and btw:
[00:13] <pwnty> firefox is giving me hard time in Natty, keeps crashing every now and then, any suggestion for another browser thats good?
[00:13] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: what ubuntu version is this?
[00:13] <ircmonkey> have you tried with as lil devices mounted possible :)
[00:13] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, 11.04
[00:13] <ircmonkey> like no usb stuff thats unneccesarry....
[00:13] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: what have you done since install?
[00:13] <h00k> ircmonkey, madeentje: please direct your message to who you're talking to, to avoid confusion
[00:13] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, install a web server
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> pwnty: chromium
[00:13] <[THC]AcidRain> i also downloaded art manager
[00:13] <ircmonkey> madeentje: like external hdd --> u mount it , usb is slow
[00:14] <[THC]AcidRain> to get cool leet themes
[00:14] <ircmonkey> h00k sry*
[00:14] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: "art manager"?
[00:14] <madeentje> ircmonkey: yes, did that too, didn't make it much if any faster
[00:14] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, yes sir. its in repos
[00:14] <[THC]AcidRain> it just grabs art from gnome
[00:14] <madeentje> ircmonkey: and i don't see the IOPS, what color is it?
[00:14] <ircmonkey> madeentje troublesome you aare :P
[00:14] <damlox_> hello
[00:14] <madeentje> ircmonkey: ah the red
[00:14] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: what's the package name?
[00:14] <ircmonkey> madeentje your second graph, disk troughput
[00:14] <madeentje> ircmonkey: so what does that red mean? it's waiting? but why is it waiting while booting? ><
[00:15] <ircmonkey> madeentje : beats me, sucky ssd :P don't really know if thats normal or not
[00:15] <[THC]AcidRain> gnome-art i think
[00:15] <tookietock> why is it telling me Downloads doesnt exist...
[00:15] <madeentje> ircmonkey: and my disk throughput is really high at first, and then it drops to really low :S
[00:15] <ircmonkey> madeentje: you would have some comparison material for that ^^
[00:15] <[THC]AcidRain> yes, its gnome-art
[00:16] <noneabove1182> guys, i gots a problem with wubi.exe install of ubuntu, the one where you put it on a virtual hardrive next to windows thing
[00:16] <richard-> question: how do i stop ubuntu from booting directly into xwindows/gnome?  i'd like to just get to the console at the moment.
[00:16] <madeentje> ircmonkey: yes, i'll look for a comparison, shouldn't be that hard
[00:16] <ircmonkey> madeentje: im just guessing for the record: its normal that while booting -> you load a lot of files but i was guessing because its an ssd it should be a bit faster .. ;)
[00:16] <ircmonkey> madeentje: so i'm thinking the delay / loading files graph shouldnt be that high
[00:16] <madeentje> ircmonkey; oke, ty, but i really don't think it's a sucky SSD...because in windows it was doing a great job
[00:16] <rbnswartz> richard- just hit ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a console
[00:17] <noneabove1182> can someone help me with wubi ?
[00:17] <ircmonkey> madeentje you have a 6gbps capable ssd running @t 3GBps speeds...
[00:17] <noneabove1182> ChristopherNG hey yea so im still having problems
[00:17] <madeentje> ircmonkey: yes oke....i'll reinstall again, but already did that 3 times :/, so either it's bugged each time for me.....or something is wrong with ubuntu/my configuration, coz it shouldn't be the SSD itself, it did fine in windows
[00:17] <madeentje> ircmonkey: that's true...
[00:17] <ircmonkey> madeentje .. :Pthats a failure itself :P
[00:18] <madeentje> ircmonkey: the failure is windows, you mean? :P
[00:18] <tookietock> cd Downloads is telling me theirs no file or directory anyone help?
[00:18] <edbian> tookietock: What folder are you currently in?
[00:18] <ircmonkey> madeentje: yes try formating it entirely and look up partitioning and swap file maybe
[00:18] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, i also installed compizconfig settings
[00:18] <madeentje> ircmonkey: yes, swap file is on my other HDD
[00:19] <tookietock> edbian: i used cd .. to get to the top
[00:19] <ircmonkey> madeentje: only things i can think of swapping, iops --> bad performance ssd. or bad driver that its loading while booting........ --> in my case that was an nvidia card and the new driver sucked arse
[00:19] <madeentje> ircmonkey: and oke, ty, i'll format and partition again once more, and if it bugs again on sector 63, i'll partition it manually and see what happens with my boottime
[00:19] <ircmonkey> why is the swap on your other HDD :|
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> tookietock: try:  cd ~/Downloads
[00:19] <ircmonkey> *cries*
[00:19] <noneabove1182> does anyone else here have a problem of ubuntu getting stuck during startup with WUBI install???
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> ircmonkey: speed?
[00:19] <ircmonkey> make a partition on your ssd
[00:19] <madeentje> ircmonkey: because several articles google provided me suggested that ><
[00:19] <edbian> tookietock: Then you have to give a complete path to Downloads (/home/<you>/Downloads presumably)
[00:19] <Phong_> question: usually the long ther interviewing processing is it means better?
[00:19] <ircmonkey> --> for swap
[00:20] <ircmonkey> swap file on your ssd plz :P
[00:20] <edbian> tookietock: ~ is a shortcut for /home/<you>
[00:20] <tookietock> edbian: ahh ty
[00:20] <edbian> tookietock: sure
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> ircmonkey: it willwear it out quicker
[00:20] <madeentje> actionparsnip: hello, ty for joining us ^^
[00:21] <ircmonkey> madeentje: note that swap partition should be 'faster' than 'swapfile' but if im not mistaken - put swapfile on your ssd and it will swap faster ;)
[00:21] <ircmonkey> actionparsnip: dont be silly , they're made for this stuff
[00:21] <ircmonkey> a lil swap is no prob.
[00:21] <madeentje> ircmonkey: but i NEVER use swapfile, i have 6GB ram and never reach that much, i only use it for hibernate, so it doesn't have to be fast
[00:21] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: you never answered my questions before when I asked you what you meant when you said you were running things as root
[00:21]  * ircmonkey is running a vm atm
[00:21] <noneabove1182> Can anyone help me out..?
[00:21] <ircmonkey> on ssd*
[00:21] <noneabove1182> even if its in a bit, just let me know
[00:22] <ircmonkey> madeentje but you just said u allocated the swap file to your regular hDD ? :S
[00:22] <edbian> noneabove1182: Just ask your question
[00:22] <madeentje> ircmonkey: yes i did
[00:22] <pea_brain> pea_brain
[00:22] <ircmonkey> madeentje : WHY xd
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> ircmonkey: i'd rather make it last that bit longer,plus swap is rarely used. I would put it on a platter based partition too along with the filesfor /home. ONly have / on the SSD :)
[00:22] <bfreis> Hello, why there's no Java 7 yet in the Natty repositories? Does anyone know of a PPA with Java 7?
[00:22] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, well gconf-edit has a different icon theme output as sudo, rather than not typing sudo
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> madeentje: thanks :)
[00:22] <noneabove1182> edbian well i have... im having a problem where ubuntu gets stuck during loading and wont continue
[00:22] <pea_brain> thanks to all for th help
[00:23] <madeentje> and that seems to work fine, several ppl even recommended that on forums and all :/, because then it doesn't wear out the SSD, and it's like several GB's lost on a precious SSD with little space (mine is 128GB, and i made the swap-partition 6GB coz my RAM is also 6GB)
[00:23] <edbian> noneabove1182: Can you elaborate.  Have you installed or are you talking about hte liveCD ?
[00:23] <ircmonkey> actionparsnip: i dont care when my ssd is worn out in about 5 years we are xx generations further and i'd probably have bought a new ssd already
[00:23] <ircmonkey> hw is meant to be used.. -_-
[00:23] <noneabove1182> edbian i installed it using WUBI.exe, the one found here to clarify : http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer
[00:23] <edbian> noneabove1182: Ugh, wubi :P
[00:24] <noneabove1182> edbian it worked the first time i loaded it, but then after installing updates it gets stuck
[00:24] <madeentje> ircmonkey: yes true...it's not big of a deal, you're prolly right, but it doesn't have much to do with the boottime, i'm pretty sure...
[00:24] <edbian> noneabove1182: When does it get stuck?
[00:24] <ircmonkey> besides the writes are completely random and there are tests, that you would destory your ssd if you overwrite your own ssd's capacity like 8 times a day (NOBODY does that)
[00:24] <Phase> The spec page for this computer shows that it supports "DDR2 PC4200" memory, the RAM I'm looking at is "DDR2 PC2 4200" (note the 2 in PC2), would it still work, whats that mean?
[00:24] <noneabove1182> edbian yea i know but my computer isnt working with usb boot and i have no CDs to spare :/
[00:24] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: nothing else?
[00:24] <ircmonkey> in a few years..
[00:24] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, correct
[00:24] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: are you changing the icon theme *without* sudo?
[00:24] <ActionParsnip> Phase: ask in ##hardware
[00:24] <Phase> ActionParsnip: thanks
[00:24] <noneabove1182> edbian and well right when it starts up theres a bunch of white text and yea, i can type last couple lines of it or upload a few pictures i took of it
[00:24] <edbian> noneabove1182: When does it get stuck?  (how old is this machine?  pretty much every machine can boot usb)
[00:25] <ircmonkey> Phase yes, thats the same
[00:25] <edbian> noneabove1182: pictures would be great
[00:25] <madeentje> ircmonkey: oke, thx, i'll keep that in mind, so i'll test with the swap-file on the SSD itself, and btw, here you can compare another bootchart with an SSD booting within 5 secs: http://overbenny.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/deep-thought-lucid-20100331-disk-throughput.png
[00:25] <Phase> ircmonkey: Thanks
[00:25] <tookietock> anyone know how to install a tar.gz
[00:25] <noneabove1182> edbian its about a month old, it BOOTS off the usb, but it gets stuck before anything happens past the copyright thing
[00:25] <ircmonkey> tookietock: extract the tar file
[00:25] <noneabove1182> edbian like theres one line of copyright then nothing happens past that
[00:25] <noneabove1182> edbian and how should i get these pictures to you ?
[00:26] <ircmonkey> tookietock: using command line something like xv -f tarfilename
[00:26] <ircmonkey> tookietock: ill look up the parameter*
[00:26] <tookietock> ircmonkey: when i extract it i get .so and a usr folder
[00:26] <edbian> noneabove1182: imageshack.us
[00:26] <ircmonkey> .so is automated install you can run from terminal
[00:27] <ircmonkey> if im not mistaken
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> tookietock: what is the file name?
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> ircmonkey: install unp and you never have to worry about syntax ;)
[00:27] <ircmonkey> tookietock: vmware tools.so :P (im guessing here :P)
[00:27] <ircmonkey> Actionparsnip: no way, commandline FTW :P
[00:27] <tookietock> libflashplayer.so
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> ircmonkey: yes, unp is a command line tool
[00:27] <noneabove1182> edbian kk give me a couple min, their on my phone after all haha
[00:27] <tookietock> i tried running it with ./
[00:27] <ircmonkey> lol flash
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> tookietock: what browser do you use?
[00:28] <[THC]AcidRain> this blows my mind
[00:28] <ircmonkey> put it in a folder for firefox :D
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> tookietock: its not a command, its a plugin
[00:28] <ircmonkey> firefox will automaticly load ;)
[00:28] <tookietock> action parsnip: its firefox but im on x64
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> tookietock: I have a ppa for that, gimme a sec
[00:28] <ircmonkey> theres a howto even for x64 version.
[00:28] <edbian> noneabove1182: no worries :)
[00:28] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: hmm?
[00:28] <ircmonkey> its on the site where you downloaded it from if im not mistaken :p
[00:28] <edbian> noneabove1182: Does the system freeze the same way on wubi as it does booting of a liveUSB?
[00:29]  * ircmonkey will try in my vm one sec :p
[00:29] <ogramses> Can anyone help me toggle identd on xchat? please?
[00:29] <tookietock> havnt seen one
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> tookietock: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash; sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin64-installer
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> tookietock: that will give 64bit flash
[00:29] <ircmonkey> lol :)
[00:29] <ircmonkey> apt-get ^_^.
[00:29] <tookietock> actionparsnip: thanks a bunch running now
[00:30] <noneabove1182> edbian no they freeze at different stuff, im uploading pictures of both, 5 are of the wubi, one of the liveUSB (since its only one line anyways)
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> tookietock: looks for stuff like that, rather than downloading individual files to mess with
[00:31] <edbian> noneabove1182: Hopefully they're labeled :)
[00:31] <[THC]AcidRain> jrib, idk, i give up man
[00:31] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: are you changing the icon theme *without* sudo?
[00:31] <ircmonkey> sya i cant post anything in the python unregistered channel :S
[00:31] <noneabove1182> edbian they arent but itll be obvious XD
[00:31] <h00k> !register | ircmonkey
[00:31] <edbian> noneabove1182: ok
[00:31] <noneabove1182> edbian if theres one line, its the one off of liveUSB :P
[00:32] <edbian> k
[00:32] <ircmonkey> i mean: it says you're here because the other chan is for regged users only, then wth I can't chat in the unregged channel - thats lame i meant.. :p
[00:32] <ircmonkey> !register
[00:32] <tookietock> just realized my sounds not working... how do i go about getting that to work?
[00:32] <noneabove1182> edbian kk its done
[00:32] <edbian> noneabove1182: give me the link
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> ircmonkey: do you not use unp?
[00:32] <tookietock> do i need drivers?
[00:32] <jrib> [THC]AcidRain: you should also check that gnome-settings-daemon is running
[00:32] <noneabove1182> edbian working on that,, :P
[00:33] <ircmonkey> ActionParsnip i use commandline stuf mostly
[00:33] <ircmonkey> cat, gedit :p
[00:33] <ircmonkey> if needed
[00:33] <ircmonkey> thats how i created my bind9 files :)
[00:33] <noneabove1182> edbian http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/814/imag0406y.jpg/
[00:33] <noneabove1182> edbian does that work or do i need to use another ?
[00:33] <ircmonkey> and zones and stuff :P
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> ircmonkey: it is a command line command, it extract severything with one command so ou don't need to remeber syntax
[00:33] <edbian> noneabove1182: I see it.  That must be the liveUSB
[00:33] <ircmonkey> i do use apt-get yes.
[00:33] <noneabove1182> edbian yup
[00:33] <edbian> noneabove1182: I can tell my your arm there :P
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> tookietock: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[00:34] <noneabove1182> edbian and i tried that with two ISOs and also two different USB installers and got the same thing both times
[00:34] <noneabove1182> edbian thats my grandma, im at her place atm :P
[00:34] <noneabove1182> edbian but either way yea thats the same thing that happened both times and it went nowhere from there, waited 10 min and nothing
[00:35] <ircmonkey> ActionParsnip: But i'm recently playing with Mac OS X Lion, works very smooth on the newest macbook pro with 240gb ssd and 8Gb 1600mhz ram :P
[00:35] <b0w> hello! i need an easy app for post its on desktop, i need it to write there my to-do stuff, anyone knows something like that?
[00:35] <noneabove1182> edbian you want the others for wubi or want to work on that?
[00:35] <italoxp> b0w, screenlets
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> ircmonkey: I'd expect it to be with grunt like that, any OS would
[00:35] <th0r> b0w: xpad?
[00:35] <edbian> noneabove1182: :)   Can you pop the harddrive out of this laptop for a second.  Will the USB boot normally if the hdd is not connected.  Make sure the power is off and the battery is out, and the machine is unplugged when you take out the hdd.
[00:36] <edbian> noneabove1182: I'd rather work on a normal install that fix wubi.  It is a more robust solution :)
[00:36] <escott> noneabove1182, the second to last shows an evergreen RIP stack trace. so something is going wrong with your graphics card. have you tried the nomodeset
[00:36] <darksider> hi could someone please help a 'just-above amateur' linux//ubuntu user with an issue involving no sound
[00:36] <noneabove1182> edbian uhh i might be able to.. not gonna lie that worries me a bit but yea XD
[00:36] <noneabove1182> escott no i havent
[00:36] <b0w> th0r, italoxp thanks guys! ill take a look at those
[00:37] <edbian> noneabove1182: sure  It's just my suspicion and this is the easiest way to check
[00:37] <darksider> i think i may have accidentally removed something it needs to use my soundcard
[00:37] <ogramses> Can anyone help me set identd? 11.04?
[00:37] <ircmonkey> well imma sleep, ill remember this channel for when i have esx running on my server - and ubuntu server vm's :P
[00:37] <ircmonkey> later :D
[00:37] <escott> noneabove1182, also see http://askubuntu.com/questions/39562/radeon-module-boot-problems
[00:37] <noneabove1182> edbian well whats your idea atm sorry ?
[00:38] <edbian> noneabove1182: take the hdd out and try to boot the liveUSB with it removed
[00:38] <noneabove1182> edbian yea im just wondering what you think is wrong, if taking the hdd out will prove anything
[00:38] <darksider> because the PREFERENCES>>Sound app/function just brings up a popup with "Waiting for system to respond" that never goes away
[00:38] <noneabove1182> escott thanks ill give that a read
[00:39] <edbian> noneabove1182: It means that there is something wrong with the partitions (windows partitions) which is very common.  Windows boots just fine and ignores them but ubuntu gets stuck.
[00:39] <edbian> noneabove1182: If I'm right then windows can repair them
[00:39] <darksider> i REALLY don't want to have to re-format and install because i have alot of music and movies
[00:39] <darksider> and my articles, poetry, books, everything is on here
[00:39] <noneabove1182> edbian but i have no partition yet, its just the usb trying to load up ?
[00:39] <darksider> and i dont have external big enough
[00:40] <edbian> noneabove1182: You have windows installed right?  Then you have partitions :)
[00:40] <wsbl-uhpd651> Hello folks.  I need some help getting my IBM Thinkpad to recognize my 16GB flash drive in Ubuntu 11.04.  Currently when I plug it in, it shows up in my places menu - but nothing happens when hit the "16GB File System" icon (i.e. it doesn't activate my flash drive).
[00:40] <noneabove1182> escott ill be honest with you, i have little to no idea of how to do what the guy who answered said to do :P
[00:40] <induz> I have problem with Mozilla ThunderBird on ubuntu 10.4 my profile is on ~/.mozilla-thunderbird<Profile name>. but I dont know  how to repair it
[00:40] <pdtpatrick> what's the new name for ncurses package? it was changed i believe
[00:40] <induz> Thunderbird crashes after 3 seconds
[00:40] <noneabove1182> edbian ah alright i see... uhgggg i guess i can do that then.. DX so what am i looking for then to happen/not happen ?
[00:41] <darksider> i dunnno why and cant remember what i did to it
[00:41] <darksider> it worked fine before
[00:41] <wsbl-uhpd651> Prior to this, I was getting an error - something to the effect of "error mounting: mount: /dev/sbd1: can't read superblock
[00:41] <darksider> but its driving me crazu
[00:41] <edbian> noneabove1182: Tell me if anything different happens at all.  What we're hoping for is that the USB drive boots right up with no issues at all.
[00:41] <darksider> crazy*
[00:41] <wsbl-uhpd651> Now it just won't open it off the Places menu after plugging it in ...
[00:41] <edbian> escott: He can't even boot the liveUSB what makes you think it's the radeon module?
[00:42] <noneabove1182> edbian alright ill give it a shot.. XD if it does boot up what should i do? shut down, put everything back, and come back here ?
[00:42] <UpAllNightBrain> Will cp -r ~/usr /usr/ Replace usr completely or add in the new files without touching anything else.  I'm trying to install software that came in a tar.gz file that extracts to usr/*
[00:42] <wsbl-uhpd651> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS ONE?
[00:42] <edbian> noneabove1182: if it boots up install Ubuntu :)
[00:42] <italoxp> Exaile is crashing a lot. Guys, any idea?
[00:42] <darksider> Nobody ANY ideas or advice AT ALL ?
[00:42] <edbian> noneabove1182: no wait, that doesn't make sense
[00:42] <noneabove1182> edbian onto what?? ill have no hdd :S
[00:42] <noneabove1182> edbian haha
[00:42] <th0r> wsbl-uhpd651: I have a though...stop yelling
[00:43] <induz> is there a bug in Thunderbird
[00:43] <edbian> noneabove1182: Hahaha, sorry.  Brain fart.  If it boots up come back here.  You'll need to do a 'disk check' in windows.  You can do it by right clicking your hdd in 'my computer'
[00:43] <darksider> if anyone has an idea, but is busy now and i need to wait then just let me know
[00:43] <wsbl-uhpd651> th0r: wasn't really - sorry it came across that way ...
[00:43] <h00k> induz: please feel free to report it
[00:43] <h00k> !bug | induz
[00:43] <noneabove1182> edbian well im just wondering why dont i do that now and try it it?
[00:43] <noneabove1182> edbian i guess itll help us narrow stuff down
[00:43] <ubuntu__> hi
[00:44] <edbian> noneabove1182: yes, the disc check takes a long time
[00:44] <escott> edbian, it was ActionParsnip's idea from a few hours ago (and he has often proved himself correct) this is a radeon + core-i-series without disable-able discrete or integrated video (hp doesn't do that) so when the kernel goes to modeset things could get dicey, and the WUBI is failing after dumping a stack trace of something related to radeon evergreen with the string RIP in it.
[00:44] <noneabove1182> edbian escott alright ill give it a shot and be back in hopefully a few minutes
[00:44] <Phase> I've been using the 32bit Ubunu release, but I've just discovered my CPU is capable of 64bit. Would there be any noticable performance gains with 1gb of DDR2 memory? What about 2gb DDR2 memory?
[00:45] <induz> how can i remove/delet a program on Ubuntu10.04
[00:45] <edbian> escott: Ahh, didn't see the wubi dump yet
[00:45] <irrumator_> how do you make sure the permissions on a file are, say chmod640?
[00:45]  * ActionParsnip blushes
[00:45] <irrumator_> how do you tell from ls -l for example
[00:45] <wsbl-uhpd651> All I had was pictures on this flash drive.  I was able to run some commands in Terminal to recover them.
[00:45] <irrumator_> and if they're not, how do you change them to be chmod 640?
[00:45] <th0r> Phase: get the additional ram, don't waste time on the 64 bit upgrade if you are only looking for speed.
[00:45] <escott> Phase, 64bit enables more registers so thats good, but all your addresses are bigger, so its a mixed blessing if you don't have more ram
[00:45] <edbian> Phase: the point of 64 bit is to allow more than 3.2Gb of Ram
[00:46] <robin0800> Phase, any thing over 3Gb I think
[00:46] <Phase> Thanks th0r, escott, edbian, robin0800
[00:46] <edbian> irrumator_: chmod 640 /path/to/file/
[00:46] <Phase> I'm still getting the 2gb of ram, but I might just stick to 32bit then..
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> Phase: you can access up to 64Gb RAM with 32bit + PAE but each process will only be able to access 3.2Gb RAM
[00:46] <escott> Phase, probably not worth a complete reinstall just for the registers and sse3
[00:46] <wsbl-uhpd651> I thought I had to reformat the flash drive - that it had formatting wrong when initially plugging it in upon first use.  But after installing gparted - I see it is already formatted to ext4 ... so I don't understand why Ubuntu won't recognize my flash drive ...
[00:46] <edbian> irrumator_: Learn what 640 represents and I think ls -l will be clear enough :)
[00:46] <edbian> escott: Yes ActionParsnip is a smart guy :)
[00:46] <Phase> escott: Well, I'll probably stick a Win7 partition on here when I get the extra ram
[00:46] <Phase> Just for gaming.. I miss steam.
[00:47] <irrumator_> ok, thanks edbian i'll read up on what 640 is
[00:47] <edbian> irrumator_: :)
[00:47] <irrumator_> every helpful edbian, in great debt to you
[00:47] <induz> bug is in ThunderBird not in ubuntu i guess
[00:49] <wsbl-uhpd651> does anyone have a clue as to what is up with my flash drive?
[00:49] <escott> wsbl-uhpd651, won't recognize or wont auto-mount. those are different. make sure there aren't any folders in /media that are empty and make sure you are in plugdev, and DONT list the uuid of your thumb drive in fstab
[00:50] <escott> wsbl-uhpd651, sudo blkid will tell you the uuid of all attached partitions
[00:51] <h00k> wsbl-uhpd651: I just had this issue on Debian testing, I was able to force a mount automatically. It was trying to mount it as a CDROM and not a usb device
[00:54] <noneabove1182> edbian yea so i opened up my computer to take the HDD out.... but it was such a mess of everything i think id rather wait like 5 hours for the disk check instead of messing around there XD
[00:54] <wsbl-uhpd651> escott: thank you.  first it wouldn't recognize.  NOW - it seems to mount - but won't open.
[00:54] <edbian> noneabove1182: sounds good.  Sometimes they're really easy to remove.  Sometimes not
[00:55] <noneabove1182> escott, if you could relink that page about the radeon and maybe give me a few directions on how to do what theyre talking about thatd be nice
[00:55] <noneabove1182> edbian yea its in there with a bunch of stuff sadly XD
[00:55] <noneabove1182> edbian so what did you want me to do again to make sure ?
[00:55] <edbian> noneabove1182: run the disk check (it shouldn't take that long).
[00:55] <edbian> noneabove1182: http://askubuntu.com/questions/39562/radeon-module-boot-problems   This is the link.
[00:56] <escott> noneabove1182, removing a laptop drive is not supposed to be easy. i think you may be coming at it from the wrong access panel
[00:56] <edbian> noneabove1182: Unfortunately the link suggests we boot a liveUSB and edit some files on the install (and it's not talking about wubi which makes it even harder)
[00:56] <edbian> escott: NOT supposed to be easy?
[00:56] <wsbl-uhpd651> h00k: I think this is actually what is going on with my flash drive - because that is exactly what it did when I tried it on a Windows PC ...
[00:56] <escott> noneabove1182, (a) boot with nomodeset. this can be done by editing within grub
[00:56] <wsbl-uhpd651> h00k: Windows was also recognizing it as a CD drive ...
[00:56] <wsbl-uhpd651> h00k: in error ...
[00:56] <escott> edbian, ooops thanks... noneabove1182 IS supposed to be easy is NOT supposed to be hard
[00:57] <noneabove1182> escott yea unfortunately im a COMPLETE ubuntu noob.. DX
[00:57] <edbian> noneabove1182: Here is an detailed explanation of how to set nomodeset:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[00:57] <unsobill> Hello guys - how can i improve my VNC is extremely slow on KDE4
[00:57] <edbian> noneabove1182: For the record I do not think this will solve the problem.  In my experience nomodeset fixes a completely black screen.
[00:58] <noneabove1182> edbian kk so right click > properties > tools > check now ?
[00:58] <edbian> noneabove1182: Additionally I think there is more than one issue here including the possible partition errors
[00:58] <escott> noneabove1182, (a) boot with nomodeset. you can do this by hitting "e" at the boot menu (where you pick between install/test/check media) and then finding the line that says vmlinuz and replacing "splash" with "nomodeset"
[00:58] <edbian> noneabove1182: Yes check now
[00:58] <wsbl-uhpd651> escott: I need you to help me a learn a few things here first.  What is "plugdev" and what is "fstab" ???
[00:58] <edbian> wsbl-uhpd651: fstab is a file, /etc/fstab that describes what to mount at boot time
[00:59] <edbian> wsbl-uhpd651: Whenever anything is mounted an entry is searched for in that file
[00:59] <escott> noneabove1182, (b) blacklist the radeon driver by adding it to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf see http://askubuntu.com/questions/39562/radeon-module-boot-problems
[00:59] <edbian> escott: He can't do that without booting a liveUSB which he can't do noneabove1182
[00:59] <whoever> hi all using eclipse and there arn't any code hints, can someone assist ?
[00:59] <escott> noneabove1182, i would suggest trying the alternate installer because it is less likely to try and modeset/load the radeon module in the first place
[01:00] <escott> noneabove1182, so i would start by downloading and making a liveusb of this http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[01:00] <edbian> noneabove1182: escott If I'm right the installer will have trouble partitioning
[01:00] <unsobill> any1 help ? I have freebsd box with KDE4 sitting on the same LAN with my Win7 desktop - vnc viewer to freebsd dekstop is extrmeely sloooooow :(
[01:00] <escott> edbian, maybe
[01:00] <sudokill> unsobill- this is ubuntu channel..
[01:01] <edbian> escott: indeed, maybe
[01:01] <wsbl-uhpd651> escott: OK - and what is "plugdev" ???
[01:01] <unsobill> i cant join freebsd for some reason
[01:01] <unsobill> get not registered or something
[01:02] <escott> wsbl-uhpd651, type "groups" in a terminal you should see plugdev mentioned
[01:02] <noneabove1182> edian escott k so wait whats the latest verdict? XD
[01:02] <noneabove1182> edbian sorry mispelt ^
[01:02] <edbian> noneabove1182: We are differing on opinions.  I think you should do the disk check and see if it boots after that.
[01:03] <escott> noneabove1182, we don't know for sure what will work. you just have to try different things. i think something like the alternate or a sysrescuelinux is a good first step
[01:03] <unsobill> it tells me not registered
[01:03] <unsobill> how can i register ?
[01:03] <wsbl-uhpd651> escott: OK.  "plugdev" comes up when that commad is entered, so I am good on that.
[01:03] <noneabove1182> edbian k well the disk check has to happen after a reboot
[01:03] <edbian> noneabove1182: I expected that
[01:03] <escott> noneabove1182, you want to have something that boots to begin with, and then you can hopefully work from there
[01:03] <wsbl-uhpd651> escott: For what reason would I ever NOT be in plugdev?
[01:03] <unsobill> second question i had how to filter all messages by my name only
[01:04] <tookietock> anyone help me to install a bundle? says cannot detect character encoding..??
[01:04] <RyuGuns1> How do I upgrade Blender?
[01:04] <unsobill> how to finish registering ?
[01:04] <escott> wsbl-uhpd651, if you accidentally removed yourself. people commonly add themselves to other groups and by accident remove themselves from other groups. or if you wanted someone to be able to use the machine but not get auto-mounting of external drives
[01:04] <noneabove1182> edbian escott do you want me to try the disk check first and then come back here if and when it doesnt work? just because its the one that requires the least direction so itd be less of a waste of time for you guys, especially escott cause id be hoping for a slight guide (which i realise youve given but yea)
[01:04] <Gunni> i have a ppa, how on earth do i add it, i can't find how, how do i add this?! https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/icinga
[01:04] <unsobill> i entered /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER string but still getting unregistered
[01:05] <edbian> noneabove1182: Yeah. I think you should run the disk check and then try to boot the liveUSB
[01:05] <RyuGuns1>  /msg NickServ HELP REGISTER
[01:05] <noneabove1182> escott you good with that?
[01:05] <ChristopherNG> thats what everyone wants to know
[01:05] <escott> wsbl-uhpd651, so does the usb stick appear in /proc/partitions (its a file you can "cat /proc/partitions")
[01:05] <edbian> noneabove1182: admittedly this is a guess on my part :P  But obviously I think it's right.
[01:05] <unsobill> i confirmed my email
[01:05] <wsbl-uhpd651> escott: this is a new thing for me - these "groups".  How do you toggle between being "in" a group our out of it?  I assume there are standard "groups" that you are in by default whenever you log in?
[01:05] <escott> noneabove1182, sure. do whatever you feel comfortable with, you have to work at your own pace
[01:05] <unsobill> and got verify string
[01:05] <noneabove1182> edbian haha alright sounds good its worth a shot XD
[01:06] <edbian> noneabove1182: yep :)
[01:06] <escott> wsbl-uhpd651, the system configures you to be in these groups by default. admin to be able to install software and "sudo" lpadmin to manage printers etc
[01:06] <noneabove1182> escott yea i dunno i guess i figure its worth a shot, thanks for the help though ill copy and paste all this text so that i need as little direction as possible should this fail !
[01:06] <Magnetoo> why wubi is giving limit to 30gb installation only? I need to install my ubuntu on 80 GB.. using Ubuntu. Is it possible?
[01:07] <edbian> Magnetoo: Yes, do it without wubi :)
[01:07] <wsbl-uhpd651> escott: K - makes sense.  What is the "sambashare" group?
[01:07] <escott> Magnetoo, i would be worried about a wubi partition that large. its a single file inside ntfs
[01:07] <Magnetoo> last time i did.. i messed up the whole partition.
[01:07] <escott> wsbl-uhpd651, allows you to manage shares with windows machines
[01:07] <edbian> Magnetoo: Just choose the option: 'install alongside windows'
[01:08] <edbian> Magnetoo: If you want I can help you manually partition
[01:08] <escott> Magnetoo, install alongside or use virtualbox to run inside a vm, but wubi is flaky
[01:08] <Magnetoo> ok, i need to write it thn.
[01:08] <Magnetoo> thanks.
[01:08] <stuntmachine> Is there a better way of doing this:    grep -r -i 'string' `pwd`
[01:09] <escott> stuntmachine, grep -r -i 'regexp' .
[01:09] <stuntmachine> It's just that I get the feeling I'm doing something inefficient.
[01:09] <renancoelho> Hi there! my hardware is working however the computer is not booting from it. I think maybe something messed up the Grub loader. I am using Ubuntu through the usb. How can I reinstall Grub here? Does this sound logic to you guys?
[01:09] <stuntmachine> renancoelho:  Boot from the Ubuntu media
[01:09] <wsbl-uhpd651> escott: Ah.  good call.  K - I'm checking fstab and that proc directory right now.  Hold tight ...
[01:09] <stuntmachine> renancoelho:  Then reinstall GRUB.
[01:09] <edbian> renancoelho: sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/path/to/your/ubuntu/mounted /dev/sda
[01:09] <stuntmachine> renancoelho:  I wrote a blog post about a similar issue
[01:10] <edbian> renancoelho: :)
[01:10] <stuntmachine> renancoelho: http://blog.smalleycreative.com/linux/fix-for-ubuntu-10-04-server-usb-install/
[01:10] <stuntmachine> renancoelho:  Check Step 3:  Fix GRUB
[01:10] <escott> wsbl-uhpd651, the fstab is usually listed by uuid not device (device names can change when you hot-plug them but uuid are constant) so use sudo blkid to identify the uuid corresponding to your stick and look for that
[01:10] <stuntmachine> you'll just need to replace /dev/cciss/c0d0 with the path to your hard drive
[01:11] <renancoelho> Cool thanks! now let me ask you something really dumb... how do I find out the path to my hard  drive?
[01:12] <Magnetoo> pwd :o
[01:12] <stuntmachine> is there a better way to grep for a string in all files (including files in subdirectories) of a certain directory?
[01:12] <edbian> renancoelho: you have to mount it first, wanna PM me ?
[01:12] <escott> stuntmachine, . = `pwd`
[01:12] <jrib> stuntmachine: better than?
[01:12] <renancoelho> sure..
[01:13] <wsbl-uhpd651> escott: Wow - you are even more helpful then the last guy!  Here are the answers to your questions ...
[01:13] <linuxuz3r> stuntmachine you need to script or program it
[01:13] <edbian> :)
[01:13] <stuntmachine> linuxuz3r:  To do a grep on all files in a directory requires a script?
[01:14] <escott> stuntmachine, your use of `pwd` can be replaced by a single "."
[01:14] <wsbl-uhpd651> escott: it does show up in /proc/partitions.  The UUID is showing up in fstab.  I do have empty folders in /media ("floppy" and "floppy0"), but it does not seem like these are removable (that option is greyed out when I right-click on them)
[01:14] <stuntmachine> escott:  I know that, but I want to make sure my general command structure is even right... if there's a better way to accomplish my end result, I'm all ears.
[01:15] <escott> wsbl-uhpd651, "The UUID is showing up in fstab" is your issue. the auto-mount will defer to your fstab if there is an entry. so to get the auto-mount behavior remove that line from fstab
[01:15] <escott> stuntmachine, no there is no better way.
[01:15] <linuxuz3r> stuntmachine: yeah i dont think grep can move to a directory
[01:16] <stuntmachine> well if I do something like: grep -r -i "blah" /var/log
[01:16] <stuntmachine> this works
[01:16] <stuntmachine> it greps the files under /var/log
[01:16] <linuxuz3r> how about subdirectories of it?
[01:16] <wsbl-uhpd651> escott: OK - so remove ALL the text protruding from that "#" in fstab?
[01:16] <ThomasB2k> ping
[01:17] <stuntmachine> yes
[01:17] <stuntmachine> subdirectories too
[01:17] <linuxuz3r> oh cool
[01:17] <linuxuz3r> -r is recursive?
[01:17] <stuntmachine> I love how I came here to find a better way and ended up teaching you guys something :D
[01:17] <stuntmachine> That just made my night
[01:19] <stuntmachine> I'm totally trying to wrap my head around KVM right now...  seems extremely complex
[01:19] <wsbl-uhpd651> escott: what is the command I run in terminal again to open the "fstab" file with permissions to edit?
[01:19] <compdoc> stuntmachine, very simple
[01:19] <JimmyNeutron> sudo /etc/fstab
[01:19] <stuntmachine> compdoc:  trolling me or serious?  And if serious, do you have any good docs you can share?
[01:19] <JimmyNeutron> sudo vi /etc/fstab
[01:20] <wsbl-uhpd651> JimmyNeutron: thank you :)
[01:20] <unsobill> how can i finish registering on irc
[01:20] <unsobill> i got email
[01:20] <compdoc> stuntmachine, youre talking about qemu-kvm?
[01:20] <unsobill> paste string here
[01:20] <unsobill> and get not registered
[01:20] <FloodBot1> unsobill: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:20] <stuntmachine> compdoc:  this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation
[01:21] <stuntmachine> compdoc:  I just ultimately want to get to a point where I have a few Ubuntu VMs with bridged network connections on my main subnet.
[01:21] <wsbl-uhpd651> JimmyNeutron: I need to remove a line from that file.  How do I open it up in the text editor and do that?
[01:22] <compdoc> stuntmachine, I think if you install with the Software Center, it does all the groups, etc for you
[01:22] <JimmyNeutron> wsbl-uhpd651, type in    sudo <editor ur familar with> /etc/fstab
[01:22] <stuntmachine> compdoc:  I'm on Ubuntu Server
[01:22] <stuntmachine> wsbl-uhpd651:  vim <name of file>
[01:22] <compdoc> Lucid (10.04) or later:  sudo apt-get install qemu-kvm libvirt-bin ubuntu-vm-builder bridge-utils
[01:22] <compdoc> that works too
[01:23] <stuntmachine> compdoc:  Yeah I have that done...  Post install configuration/management is the sticking point.
[01:23] <escott> wsbl-uhpd651, sudo gedit /etc/fstab   if the line starts with a # it is a comment and is ineffective and we need to look for another source of the problem
[01:23] <JimmyNeutron> wsbl-uhpd651, gedit is like notepad and easier to use if you're not familar with vi.......sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:23] <unsobill> my /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER unsobill citysqlbenvf
[01:23] <JimmyNeutron> oops..didnt see escott reply
[01:24] <compdoc> well, Im a gui type of guy - all my servers run desktops. and kvm is so simple
[01:24] <unsobill> ?
[01:24] <Roocyy> is ubuntu most popular linux distribution?
[01:24] <Roocyy> most used?
[01:24] <compdoc> Roocyy, its pretty popular
[01:24] <escott> wsbl-uhpd651, do confirm that you are removing only the line related to the affected external drive, by comparing the uuid listed there with the uuid from sudo blkid
[01:25] <sudokill> Roocyy- it is the most polular
[01:25] <sudokill> popular*
[01:25] <shinsuke> do i need programming skills to work with dbus or are my bash scripting skills enough?
[01:25] <JimmyNeutron> bad place to ask that question...you're in a Ubuntu channel ... :D
[01:25] <compdoc> Roocyy, only a handful are in the same league
[01:25] <JimmyNeutron> lol
[01:25] <escott> Roocyy, distrowatch is a common measure of popularity
[01:26] <JimmyNeutron> CentOS, Fedora, and Ubuntu are my favorite
[01:26] <shinsuke> well, its for the sake of ubuntu
[01:26] <wsbl-uhpd651> escott: I checked the uuid's - and they seemed to match.  Just removed that line, then took out my flash drive and plugged it back in.  No change.  Still recognizes it, but does not open it ...
[01:26] <escott> shinsuke, dbus bindings are available for most languages but i doubt bash is a good way to work with it. something like python would probably be better
[01:26] <wsbl-uhpd651> I'm going to go eat dineer ... I'll be back in a little bit ...
[01:26] <escott> wsbl-uhpd651, and you saved the file
[01:27] <wsbl-uhpd651> escott: I'm going to go eat dinner.  I'll be back in a little bit ...  Yes, I saved the file ...
[01:27] <escott> wsbl-uhpd651, it may require a reboot or some magic incantation to get the plug system to see the change in fstab
[01:27] <shinsuke> escott, why is bash not good?
[01:28] <caden_cotard> my wifi keeps cutting out in 10.04, but it's not a router issue, does anyone know wha tcould be at issue?
[01:29] <shinsuke> caden_cotard, pci or usb device?
[01:29] <caden_cotard> it's a wireless card in my Lenovo t60 laptop
[01:29] <edbian> caden_cotard: Well it's almost def the driver (unless you're just too far away from the router)
[01:29] <FAKE_> hai guise
[01:29] <escott> shinsuke, you would spend all your time learning some set of command line args to make a utility send the dbus message you want instead of doing something useful with dbus
[01:29] <caden_cotard> it works fine for hours
[01:29] <caden_cotard> and then
[01:29] <caden_cotard> ill lose connectivity
[01:29] <caden_cotard> and if I reset it by flipping the wifi switch on the laptop
[01:29] <caden_cotard> it will come back on
[01:29] <demo> HI
[01:29] <escott> shinsuke, i would recommend python or ruby
[01:29] <caden_cotard> but it will go off again
[01:30] <caden_cotard> almost immediately
[01:30] <h00k> caden_cotard: please keep things on one line, it makes things easier to follow
[01:30] <FloodBot1> caden_cotard: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:30] <shinsuke> caden_cotard, are you sure this does not happen with other ubuntu versions?
[01:30] <caden_cotard> I just upgraded
[01:30] <caden_cotard> I was on 8.04 (I think) on this same network as of a few days ago, and I upgraded to 10.04 and it's started doing this
[01:30] <shinsuke> escott, thanks
[01:31] <caden_cotard> the odd thing is that I can get connectivity back when it happens by just flipping the switch on my laptop, but it will go out again 2 or 3 times, and then it will work ok for a while again
[01:33] <escott> caden_cotard, anything in dmesg?
[01:33] <JimmyNeutron> caden_cotard, check the forum on the wireless NIC....on my router, Netgear WND3700..there were some reported cases of interoperability issues w/ some wireless NIC
[01:33] <user99> Hello
[01:34] <JimmyNeutron> Even NetGear to Netgear had drop issues
[01:34] <Asahina> ....hello to who user99 ...
[01:34] <Asahina> next time, be more direct
[01:34] <user99> I I have a system I built for a fellow last year'
[01:34] <user99> Ubuntu 10.04
[01:34] <user99> worked flawlessly
[01:34] <Asahina> you built?
[01:34] <user99> yes built
[01:34] <Asahina> a cp? or software?
[01:35] <shinsuke> caden_cotard, got dual boot? if yes then use windows for 1 day and check if it is really ubuntu
[01:35] <renancoelho> Edgan: Thanks so much for the help, the grub reinstall did the trick... I just booted from the HDD... Thanks again!
[01:35] <user99> then two days ago I upgraded thru update manager and it updated 52 packages
[01:35] <caden_cotard> shinsuke: single boot, but like I said it was workign fine on a previous Ubuntu version
[01:35] <Asahina> ubuntu...sucks
[01:35] <caden_cotard> escott: there's a lot in dmesg, but I don't know what it means
[01:35] <user99> a new kernel came with it and grub/menu.lst had some changes I had to okay
[01:35] <t1me10rd> what's the command to restart x
[01:36] <Asahina> i had to create my own linux op...
[01:36] <JimmyNeutron> startx
[01:36] <user99> everything seemded to go fine
[01:36] <renancoelho> Asahina: are you serious?
[01:36] <Asahina> and customize it to my liking
[01:36] <t1me10rd> yeah, but thats if x is not running. if it is, what can i do?
[01:36] <Asahina> renancoelho: I WAS BORN SERIOUS
[01:36] <user99> then I rebooted and it hangs with 'freeing initrd xxxx'
[01:37] <renancoelho> lol... Only reason I still got windows is because of Autocad... other then that I would burn it...
[01:37] <escott> caden_cotard, if you can get a few messages from just before it drops out. next time you see it drop to "dmesg | tail -n 20 > ~/recent_dmesg_logs.txt" and !paste it to us
[01:37] <shinsuke> caden_cotard, if nothing helps in the end try a fresh installation instead of upgrades. upgrades can be a source of errors. especially if your old installation was damaged before
[01:37] <Asahina> renancoelho: you can have both windows & ubuntu on the same op
[01:38] <Asahina> no one knew that?
[01:39] <Asahina> the silence brings up the truth too well
[01:39] <user99> no ops for the trolls here?
[01:40] <t1me10rd> how do i kill x from tty
[01:40] <JimmyNeutron> kill it? find the process ID and kill that id
[01:40] <Asahina> .....grabbing a knife
[01:40] <user99> 'top' find the process id hit 'k' and give it the pid
[01:40] <t1me10rd> lol
[01:41] <escott> user99, odd nothing much going on at that point in the boot. have you checked the ram?
[01:42] <user99> escott: uhh the system was running I downloaded the updates...no issues and just for grins and giggles memtest86 worked just fine for about 7 hours
[01:42] <escott> user99, did grub keep the old kernel around from pre-upgrade usually it does
[01:43] <user99> escott: tried booting about everything in the list...and there were like 12 and 12 saying rescue...no luck
[01:43] <monster9200> os
[01:44] <user99> kernel image it wants to load is 2.6.33.33 iirc
[01:44] <escott> user99, that makes very little sense. the initrd free is only a second into the boot, its only started to hand over control to the disk system. it almost has to be a kernel issue. if its not then maybe it is a corrupted filesystem
[01:46] <user99> I know...right after it loads the initramfs...then initrd freeing memeory...don't think it sees the fs anymore...was ext3...wondering if the kernel has ext3 support ...but one of the others should have worked...thinking it's the move to grub2 meessed it up
[01:47] <escott> user99, grub is out of the picture, kernel is in full control (although if you did do the grub2 upgrade you need to look at grub.conf not menu.lst for your boot list)
[01:47] <escott> user99, ext3 is still supported (and will be for years). i would fsck all the partitions
[01:48] <user99> escott: yeah...I know..and thought it odd that the message said changes to menu.lst and not grub.conf
[01:48] <escott> user99, what kind of graphics card is this?
[01:48] <user99> all right I have a wd diags disk let me boot that and check the drive first
[01:48] <escott> user99, maybe its trying to start modesetting and that is hanging the system
[01:49] <user99> ati 4200 onboard
[01:49] <caden_cotard> if it makes any difference, it always seems to disconnect when I'm streaming video
[01:49] <user99> tried nododeset no joy and a bunch of others...
[01:49] <user99> *nomodeset
[01:49] <goddard> anyone use anjuta?
[01:50] <escott> user99, i dont remember at what point radeonhd got pulled into the kernel it might be 2.6.33 (although my graphics card doesn't get seen until a second after the initrd is freed)
[01:50] <user99> but iirc the driver I installed was radeonhd...can't swear to that been a year
[01:50] <escott> user99, can you make an install cd for 10.04 and see if that will boot. it would help identify if it is the 2.6.33 or something particular to your system
[01:52] <user99> escott: I can't remember if I installed a 32 bit or 64 bit OS thinking 32 bit since the user is a bit challenged and ther were flash 64 bit issues att the time
[01:52] <Perdido_Por_el_M> hola
[01:52] <escott> user99, sorry i cant think of anything to suggest you havent seem to have thought of
[01:52] <escott> !es | Perdido_Por_el_M
[01:52] <user99> I will try a 32 bit 10.04 I have one just lying around
[01:52] <Perdido_Por_el_M> ok
[01:52] <Perdido_Por_el_M> I can speek english too
[01:53] <escott> Perdido_Por_el_M, if you are comfortable with english feel free to stay here, but this is an english only channel
[01:53] <user99> bbl
[01:55] <kevin__> hello
[01:55] <coz_> hey
[01:56] <kevin__> alguem do brasil?
[01:56] <escott> !br | kevin__
[01:59] <kevin__> quit
[01:59] <user01> anyone going to vancouver next weeeek? :)
[02:00] <wmorri> Hi, I am having a problem with running sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, it is saying that there isn't any upgrades, but I am running 10.10?
[02:00] <szal> !upgrade | wmorri
[02:00] <coz_> wmorri,   well if there are no upgrades then  that's it ...yes?
[02:00] <coz_> wmorri,  do you want to upgrade to 11.04?
[02:01] <coz_> wmorri,   dist-upgrade will not update the system to the next version , that's not what its for
[02:01] <elz89> Does anyone know if 'Parallels Tools' work with Natty? I tried on release, havent looked since...
[02:01] <wmorri> coz_: yes I would like to upgrade. I guess that I am using the wrong command then.
[02:01] <szal> coz_: that's exactly what it's originally intended for
[02:02] <escott> wmorri, do-release-upgrade will take you to 11.04 the apt terminology gets confusing
[02:02] <coz_> szal,  not as long as I have been on linux
[02:02] <szal> coz_: the fact that *buntu does that differently is another thing
[02:02] <coz_> szal,  perhaps but this is #ubuntu :)
[02:02] <wmorri> escott: thank you so much, I have forgotten my terminoligy. I will go and do it now, thanks again
[02:03] <shinsuke> wmorri, i recommend a fresh installation because upgrades can be a source of problems
[02:03] <szal> coz_: other than that, I do remember that *buntu used that way in the past (that was still the way to go around Feisty)
[02:03] <robin0800> wmorri, its alt+f2 then  dist-upgrade -d
[02:03] <dontworry> Hello, I recently got my wireless USB (Belkin Basic Wireless USB F7D1011) working on my old kernal 2.6.35-30 but packet injecting was not working, so I compiled the new kernal (3.0.1) and now it will not even detect my USB. Any suggestions?
[02:04] <escott> dontworry, you must have missed a driver in your kernel config
[02:04] <nemosis> dontworry, suggestions?  "don't worry"?
[02:04] <escott> dontworry, if packet injection will work in a newer vanilla kernel you might try the ubuntu kernel teams prebuilds
[02:05] <dontworry> escott, how would i add the driver to my kernal config, and if I do, will i have to re-compile?
[02:06] <escott> dontworry, yes, but recompiles are pretty fast as long as you dont make clean
[02:07] <user01> my gnome top panel wont load
[02:07] <rob> Hello. Can somebody help me with my microphone?
[02:07] <user01> it was and then it stopped
[02:07] <user01> if i kill it then it comes back up
[02:07] <escott> !enter | user01
[02:08] <escott> !help | rob
[02:08] <rob> !help
[02:08] <user01> and weather report  wont add to the top panel
[02:08] <rob> Uh
[02:08] <rob> Ok, sorry
[02:08] <dontworry> escott, could you tell me how to add the driver?
[02:08] <urlin2u> user01, you in unity, or the classic desktop, and have you changed any compiz settings?
[02:08] <rob> My microphone isn't showing up in skype, and when I try to add it in PulseAudio, it dosen't appear.
[02:09] <user01> urlin2u, classic desktop and i added the compiz package
[02:09] <escott> dontworry, been ages since ive compiled one. i would try and get a src dpkg from the ubuntu kernel team and grab their .config
[02:09] <urlin2u> user01, you have added it okay, have you  tweaked it?
[02:10] <dontworry> escott, Alright, do you know where the config is stored so I can replace it?
[02:10] <user01> urlin2u, i tried to add the 3d cube but nothing happened
[02:10] <curiousx> hi all
[02:10] <coz_> usarcle,    you are usint  Unity?
[02:10] <BernJahaT> How do u list the files installed for a particular package in ubuntu/debian? I know how to do this for rpm-based distros (rpm -ql <package name>) but how to do this in ubuntu?
[02:10] <coz_> using
[02:11] <coz_> BernardV,  dpkg -l nameof package
[02:11] <escott> user01, it might be a bad panel applet config. you may have to remove some stuff in .gnome2
[02:11] <BernJahaT> thanks coz_
[02:11] <urlin2u> user01, since this s a compiz issue, which can be rather complex they have a channel, and are quite, helpful, just a option here probably faster. #compiz
[02:11] <curiousx> anyone knows a free VPN service ?
[02:11] <user01> escott, so just i just delete everything in .gnome2?
[02:11] <coz_> BernJahaT,  sorry that should have been   dpkg -l | grep nameofpackage
[02:11] <urlin2u> user01, they can get you set up with the cube, it works.
[02:12] <escott> user01, thats pretty extreme. but im not at a gnome2 system so i cant give more specific instructions
[02:12] <curiousx> i mean a want to connect as a client to a remote VPN service, can help me on it ?
[02:12] <coz_> user01,    are you on Unity?
[02:12] <user01> coz_, no im in gnome
[02:12] <escott> dontworry, you might check the gentoo or slackware docs for instructions on configuring and building kernels
[02:12] <coz_> user01,  11.04 classic?
[02:12] <urlin2u> yay the coz_
[02:13] <user01> coz_, older i think, it says 2.30.2 for the gnome version
[02:13] <coz_> user01,  in terminal  compiz --version
[02:13] <BernJahaT> coz_, actually I've just tried it, and the actual answer I was looking for was dpkg -L <packagename>. thanks though u were very helpful. there are so many deb-related commands that i found it confusing
[02:13] <user01> coz_, compiz 0.8.4
[02:14] <coz_> BernJahaT,  both works  so cool :)
[02:14] <coz_> user01,  ok open ccsm
[02:14] <escott> !vpn | curiousx
[02:14] <user01> escott, ok
[02:14] <user01> escott, as root?
[02:14] <curiousx> thanks escott i'll check out
[02:15] <user01> escott, or sudo?
[02:15] <user01> escott, or user?
[02:15] <escott> user01, all your other gnome config stuff is in there. i would try to get some advise from someone running !classic first. and you would not need to be root
[02:15] <coz_> user01,  is the issue only not being able to enable the cube?
[02:16] <user01> coz_, no the issue was the gnome-panel not running
[02:16] <user01> coz_, well, running but not appearing
[02:16] <coz_> user01,  ah ,, nvidia graphics?
[02:16] <user01> coz_, unless i killed it
[02:16] <user01> coz_, intel hd graphics
[02:16] <robin0800> user01, classic may not be running compiz
[02:18] <coz_> user01,   try from terminal ..    gnome-panel & disown   then log off and back on  see  if it shows up
[02:18] <user99> escott: didn't find my ubuntu cd...but booted knoppix 6.2 fine....ran fsck.ext3 and it cleaned some orphaned files...last kernel entry is 2.6.32.33...have the drive currenntly mounted as /mnt/ubuntu and checking things
[02:19] <user99> any suggestions?
[02:19] <user01> robin0800, how do i get classic to run compiz?
[02:20] <robin0800> user01, in a terminal compiz --replace
[02:20] <coz_> user01,    in terminal  compiz --replace & disown
[02:21] <coz_> user01,  other wise compiz will shutdown when you close the terminal window
[02:21] <seanmc98> hello, i made a 50GB partion for windpw, how do i reset up grub/
[02:21] <escott> user99, i cant think of anything unfortunately
[02:22] <dontworry> Alright, Thank you escott
[02:22] <escott> !grub | seanmc98
[02:22] <robin0800> coz_, I would not use disown the first time in case it dosen't work properly
[02:23] <coz_> robin0800,  well he will still get readouts and errors if so ,, and if there are errors it wont start anyway
[02:23] <[THC]AcidRain> ok since im in this icons chrisis. how would i move just about everything i need from this user to a new user, with the same name
[02:24] <robin0800> coz_,it used to corrupt my screen making it difficult to see
[02:24] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, why not just nuke a bunch of .* files
[02:24] <coz_> robin0800,  oh !  sounds like that might have been a video issue not compiz
[02:25] <[THC]AcidRain> escott, is that safe though?
[02:25] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, they will get regenerated. you just lose the preferences
[02:25] <robin0800> coz_, metacity --replace fixed it
[02:25] <kerim> does anybody knows, howto swap boot order at grub
[02:25] <kerim> ?
[02:25] <[THC]AcidRain> so i can basically delete all of them?
[02:26] <coz_> robin0800,  right but that doesnt mean it was compiz creating the corrupt screen,, that is generally video
[02:26] <user99> hmmm I only see entries for /proc and the fs's in fstab...shouldn
[02:26] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, pretty much. copy a .profile and .bashrc out of /etc/skel if you go so far as to delete them
[02:26] <robin0800> coz_, don't know but fixed now in 11.10
[02:27] <user99> t there be an entry for /sys? or was that after 2.6.32?
[02:27] <randomseed> kerim, the order is top down unless you mark one default
[02:27] <coz_> robin0800,  ok cool,, :)
[02:27] <escott> user99, sys, dev, and tmpfs aren't in fstab anymore. they are mounted outside
[02:28] <user99> k
[02:28] <[THC]AcidRain> before i do this. is there any way at all that compiz settings could stop my icon theme from changing?
[02:28] <escott> user99, but oddly swap is in fstab go figure
[02:28] <user99> yeah...
[02:28] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, where are you seeing inconsistent icons?
[02:28] <coz_> [THC]AcidRain,  not unless somehow an icon theme was not installed
[02:28] <user99> I get this thing running i ought to change to ext4
[02:29] <[THC]AcidRain> escott,  jrib tried to help me on this. we did just about everything
[02:29] <[THC]AcidRain> icon themes work on other users, just not on me
[02:29] <[THC]AcidRain> they dont work. they say they are installed. but the default remains to be gnome
[02:29] <escott> user99, you can upgrade in place, but ext4 will only help if you move the big files around to make the extents
[02:29] <pjman> I'm trying to use testdrive on 11.04. Five seconds after I open it, the window turns dim and freezes on me. I don't see any new entries in the logs. I've tried running it from a terminal and no info is outputted to the screen. Any ideas?
[02:29] <[THC]AcidRain> this is a new install too. 2 days old
[02:29] <achu> enybody can answer my question
[02:30] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, probably something buried in gconf but hard to say what
[02:30] <[THC]AcidRain> so should i delete only gconf?
[02:30] <escott> !ask | achu
[02:30] <user99> escott: well it should boot something now an orphaned journal should have been detected and fsck run automatically I would have thought...gonna give it a shot
[02:31] <phiV> How, how do I ssh to my desktop over the internet?
[02:31] <phiV> over LAN is easy, but through WAN?
[02:31] <[THC]AcidRain> escott, and if i do delete .gconf, how would i make the system regenerate it?
[02:31] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, given it is only a couple days old you won't be losing many settings, so sure nuke away
[02:32] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, nuke it from tty1 when you are not logged in. then login again
[02:32] <escott> [THC]AcidRain, when you login to the gui it should regenerate everything
[02:33] <achu> i m using hp pavilion do it support ubuntu 10.04 lts
[02:33] <coz_> achu,  did you test it with alive cd?
[02:34] <achu> sorry compaq presario
[02:34] <achu> yes
[02:34] <coz_> achu,  and did it run well and was there sound  etc etc?
[02:34] <achu> when i try to install it shows i/o error
[02:34] <achu> no sound
[02:35] <achu> initially
[02:35] <achu> i had to unmute it
[02:35] <coz_> achu,  and is it installed now?
[02:35] <achu> no iam running on a live cd
[02:36] <acidrain_> ok, i can tell you when the issue is occuring now
[02:36] <coz_> achu,  ok,, mm  I have had a few issues with some compaqs  in the past,,, do you remember the exact error?
[02:36] <John25> I accidentally removed the sound icon in the top right in Ubuntu 11.04 Unity. How do I get it back?
[02:36] <acidrain_> escott, when i deleted .gconf is took away all preferences like you said. but when i went to go change the icon theme, it went right back to how it was stuck to before
[02:36] <acidrain_> why?
[02:37] <achu> coz ,ok iwill tell u plz wait
[02:37] <urlin2u> Johnu on the classic desktop?25, yo
[02:37] <urlin2u> John25, you on the classic desktop?
[02:37] <John25> No, I'm on Unity.
[02:37] <achu> i triesd to install many of ubuntu 9.10,10.04.10.10&11.04
[02:38] <ObrienDave> dr_willis: still here?
[02:38] <urlin2u> John25, how did you remove it?
[02:38] <coz_> achu,  same error?
[02:38] <John25> I accidentally uninstalled PulseAudio
[02:38] <achu> a live cd runs smooth exept 11.04
[02:38] <coz_> achu,  how much memory is on that system?
[02:38] <achu> yes same error
[02:38] <escott> acidrain_, are you familiar with git?
[02:38] <achu> xp runs smoothly
[02:39] <urlin2u> John25, I don't know myself of a way maybe others do the panel ia pretty locked up.
[02:39] <achu> 768 mb
[02:39] <acidrain_> escott, no
[02:39] <John25> So what are my choices?
[02:39] <escott> acidrain_, create a new user and put their entire home directory into git. then change the theme and see what files get changed. it should point you to exactly what you need to change
[02:39] <acidrain_> escott, actually now it will change to any pre installed theme. it just wont do it to my downloaded themes...
[02:39] <coz_> achu,  when you start the live cd,, click the keyboard logo at the bottom of the screen to get to a menu..run a memory test  on that system
[02:40] <achu> $ what?
[02:40] <achu> sorry
[02:40] <achu> 4 whatt?
[02:40] <escott> acidrain_, its probably not recognizing the themes in ~/.themes. i think some of this stuff came out a bit half-baked and they may have never hooked up user-themes as those are "not cool" and "not user friendly"
[02:41] <coz_> achu,  when the live cd begins,, there is , I believe,  a keyboard logo at the bottom of the screen,, if you click that  a menu should show up with a memory test option
[02:41] <urlin2u> John25, have you logged out or rebooted since you removed pulse?
[02:41] <John25> Yes
[02:41] <achu> what is the use of it?
[02:41] <John25> I even reinstalled it, hoping it would come back.
[02:41] <coz_> achu,  to rule out memory problems
[02:42] <urlin2u> John25, not sure here really, but other may know , also tab nics so we k now who your talking to. ;)
[02:42] <Tophen> If any of you guys from some hours ago remember me.
[02:42] <Singham> hi...does anyone know what is power pc and what's its use ?
[02:42] <coz_> !who
[02:42] <urlin2u> Singham, apple computers?
[02:42] <coz_> Singham,  powerpc from what I know is an older apple/mac machine
[02:42] <achu> coz , i tried to install every time it shows i/o error input output error
[02:43] <Tophen> i've installed ubuntu 1104: EXTERMELY slow boot and flickering errors
[02:43] <Tophen> I think I've corrupted me ISO :(
[02:43] <John25> urlin2u, so what, do I basically have to reinstall the OS or something?
[02:43] <JimmyNeutron> how do you use the !tab?
[02:43] <ObrienDave> !tab
[02:43] <JimmyNeutron> I tried !<nick>
[02:43] <achu> tophen, i also have the same problem
[02:43] <Tophen> Reallu?
[02:43] <JimmyNeutron> and hit tab and didnt autofill in the rest of the name
[02:43] <achu> yes
[02:44] <Tophen> Like the windows are flickering and its completely stuffed?
[02:44] <Tophen> Are you by any chance on a MacBook/
[02:44] <Singham> coz_ : can I install mac os x lion or snow leoopard in a virtualbox ?
[02:44] <urlin2u> John25, as  said I don't know I would just chill unless it is a imperative that you can't live without at this second, somebody will probably know something, this is frree help so with that comes a bit oh waiting at times. ;)
[02:44] <escott> Tophen, flickering windows are usually a compiz issue try metacity --replace
[02:44] <coz_> achu,  ok lets try something else,,, did you check the md5sum on the iso before burning it?
[02:45] <achu> tophen, i had downloaded it from ubuntu site, itworks well with my friends coputer
[02:45] <JimmyNeutron> !JimmyNeutron
[02:45] <coz_> Singham,  I am not sure,, I would assume so   however,, on an powerpc I am not su re it can handle lion,,
[02:45] <Tophen> Huh...
[02:45] <achu> md5sum what is it?
[02:45] <ObrienDave> achu md5 is a checksum
[02:45] <Tophen> I guess I'll just install 10.10 off the live CD and then update.
[02:45] <coz_> achu,  md5sum is a default install however,, it will check to see if the iso image is ok or corrupted let me get the link hold on
[02:46] <coz_> achu,    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[02:46] <achu> ok
[02:46] <wsbl-uhpd651> escott: I'm back.  I'm going to reboot - and see if that does the trick.  What did you mean by "magic incantation" ?
[02:47] <achu> i think iso nay not be wrong
[02:47] <coz_> achu,  on that pasge you will a sting of numbers and letters ,,, when you  have the iso downloaded,, open a terminal   cd to the location of the iso and then type    md5sum   ubuntu   and then hit the tab key to complete the iso's  name
[02:47] <achu> coz,bcoz i got it by post from ubuntu
[02:47] <coz_> achu,  run that and see if the numbers in the terminal match the numbers on that link for the version of ubuntu you download
[02:47] <wsbl-uhpd651> escott: Never mind ... it was just a figure of speech, I'm sure.  Rebooting now.  Will let you know if I still have problems - and if so ... I'll get back on ...
[02:48] <coz_> achu,  well we are trying to troubleshoot these errors... it could be hardware,, it could be the  iso ,, it could be be compaq being picky  I dont know
[02:49] <achu> coz ,ok
[02:50] <skpl> is there anyway to disable the launcher in ubbuntu 11.04
[02:50] <coz_> achu,  the other options is to download either the alternate cd  or the mini cd  ,, the mini is much     smaller and less chance of corruption when downloading
[02:50] <Tophen> Guys, If I boot off the livecd and install to my usb... will my usb be the boot disk?
[02:50] <achu> it shows 94% may be due to the problem of dvd drive but i tested it with my friends showing the same error
[02:50] <coz_> skpl,  at this time I dont t hink so,, however in ccsm  Ubuntu Unity plugin , you can set it to autohide
[02:50] <achu> iwill it be the problem of my hrd disk?
[02:50] <Tophen> Hm?
[02:51] <user99> pfft nothing
[02:51] <coz_> achu, ` the same burned live cd on another system with same errors?
[02:51] <achu> nope
[02:51] <urlin2u> Tophen, you can put the grub bootloader anywhere.
[02:51] <coz_> achu,  so it worked on his system?
[02:52] <achu> i tried a boot stick too showing same error
[02:52] <achu> it works fine in frends com
[02:52] <urlin2u> Tophen, do you want the usb to boot on it's own?
[02:52] <acidrain_> ok can someone send me a theme that they know works for a fact
[02:52] <coz_> achu,  ok so it must either be hardware  or compaq silliness
[02:53] <achu> my system dont supports7/vista
[02:53] <coz_> achu,  download the mini iso and try that,, it is NOT a live cd however  but easy to work with
[02:53] <coz_> !mini | achu
[02:53] <urlin2u> brb
[02:54] <achu> ok
[02:54] <achu> can i install it?
[02:54] <coz_> achu,  it is an install cd   so yes install it
[02:55] <coz_> achu,  the mini,,again,, is NOT a live cd it is an install cd
[02:55] <achu> i once installed lynux thats only 1 lynx distro i was able to install on my comp
[02:56] <coz_> achu,  understood,, which linux was that?
[02:56] <achu> linux 2.7
[02:56] <achu> i think so
[02:56] <coz_> achu,   which distribution?
[02:56] <coz_> achu,  debian,, ubuntu,,, gentoo,, suse,, ??
[02:57] <achu> it was 4 study purpose 4 ny bro
[02:57] <ohhi> hey maybe someone here can help me, on something 4 other chanels couldnt
[02:57] <achu> linux debian
[02:57] <drewby> ohhi: try #nootherchannelwillhelpme
[02:57] <coz_> ohhi,  shoot ,, if anyone can they will :)
[02:57] <coz_> achu,  ok then maybe debian will work on that system where ubuntu fails ?
[02:58] <ohhi> haha ..... T-T
[02:58] <coz_> achu,  or try the mini cd which will attempt to install onto that system
[02:58] <achu> ??
[02:58] <achu> ok i will try
[02:58] <coz_> achu,  cool :)
[02:59] <urlin2u> ohhi, ask your question?
[02:59] <ohhi> startin x ends up in a white screen
[02:59] <achu> i tried  kubuntu also
[02:59] <urlin2u> ohhi, what is your graphics card
[02:59] <coz_> achu,  this didnt work  I bet
[02:59] <Arcademan> Is there any way of changing the Unity theme :)
[02:59] <galamar> Hello was wondering if someone would know what is wrong with my synaptic, apt-get, and aptitude. Packages that should be there are not there like firefox, and any program that I got from the repos to begin with, if I remove them the won't show up anymore. None of the package managers give any error other than ""Package firefox is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsol
[02:59] <galamar> eted, or is only available from another source.  E: Package firefox has no installation candidate"".
[02:59] <achu> but showing same error
[02:59] <ohhi> ati rage i think
[03:00] <coz_> Arcademan,  the Launcher or the system theme?
[03:00] <urlin2u> galamar, which ubuntu are you running
[03:00] <galamar> 10.04
[03:00] <urlin2u> ohhi, lspci in the terminal will tell you
[03:00] <Arcademan> Can I edit the Launcher coz_
[03:00] <szal> ohhi: don't think, inform yourself -> lspci | grep -i vga
[03:00] <urlin2u> galamar, can you reinstall synaptic from the cli?
[03:01] <szal> ohhi: also, 'lsb_release -a' please
[03:01] <ohhi> must boot first
[03:01] <coz_> Arcademan,  not to my knowledge at least not much,, in ccsm under the ubuntu unity plugin there are a few options for chaning its appearance but not themeing it
[03:01] <coz_> Arcademan,  if you want to change the system theme try opening    gnome-appearance-properties
[03:01] <Arcademan> Let me guess the dock is tied to the laucher :P
[03:02] <galamar> urlin2u, If I knew what the cli was I might
[03:02] <coz_> Arcademan,  well,, the "dock"  is the launcher if you mean the large dock on the left of the screen
[03:02] <Arcademan> Yeah any chance of removing it and keeping the top dock?
[03:02] <szal> urlin2u: how would that help?
[03:03] <coz_> Arcademan,  you mean the top panel at the top of the screen?
[03:03] <ohhi> must admit its a old one it takes some time
[03:03] <Arcademan> Yeah :)
[03:03] <urlin2u> galamar, cli=command line interace=terminal.
[03:03] <PawnStar> hi.  i have a problem with ubuntu.  i'm trying to get a printer driver to work, but only morons use ubuntu, and i am not a moron.  can anybody help
[03:03] <urlin2u> interface
[03:03] <coz_> Arcademan,  well,, again ,, in ccsm under the Ubuntu Unity plugin,, there is an options to autohide the launcher
[03:03] <acidrain_> fixed bitches what get some
[03:03] <Arcademan> May I ask what terminal command :P
[03:03] <robin0800> coz_, IN 11.04 you can only use ambiance or radiance but change icons colours and cursors etc
[03:04] <urlin2u> szal, they are missing synaptic, seems logical to try a install first.
[03:04] <galamar> urlin2u, apt-get install synaptic than?
[03:04] <szal> PawnStar: please adjust your attitude..  if only morons use Ubuntu, then we're all morons, and you don't wanna be helped by morons, do you?
[03:04] <coz_> Arcademan,  or  log off and after putting in your password,,at the bottom of the screen,, under "Sessions"  choose classic or   classic ( no effects)  this will give  you classic gnome and no large launcher
[03:04] <urlin2u> galamar, yeah, unless szal  has a better idea
[03:04] <PawnStar> but why Ubuntu when Windows is there
[03:04] <coz_> Arcademan,   if you have it installed,, in terminal     ccsm
[03:05] <Arcademan> I just was wondering if the laucher was removalble that all ;)
[03:05] <coz_> Arcademan,  I dont believe so
[03:05] <coz_> Arcademan,  unless you log into the classic sessions
[03:05] <Arcademan> Right :(
[03:05] <szal> PawnStar: then use Windows.
[03:05] <galamar> I got my printer working, whose the morons?
[03:05] <escott> szal, don't feed the trolls
[03:06] <achu> coz_, its only 15 mb
[03:06] <achu> coz_ ,its only 15 mb
[03:06] <robin0800> Arcademan, no just resize hide mode and translucency
[03:06] <coz_> Arcademan,  or as I mentioned...  autohide the launcher
[03:06] <Arcademan> Is it 10.04 that uses Gnome Classic :)
[03:06] <watisdis> how do i set permissions (or groups to users) on a home directory as to hide it from other users, but allow apache to read from a www directory ?
[03:06] <PawnStar> szal:  but then you have the problem
[03:06] <coz_> achu,   right the mini is very small and downloads most of the packages from the net
[03:06] <PawnStar> let's all use Windows
[03:06] <seclm193> I have established that the cause of my freezes is virtualbox!!
[03:07]  * szal doesn't have problem atm
[03:07] <urlin2u> Arcademan, it is unity, but 10.04 is gnome2
[03:07] <escott> !permissions | watisdis
[03:07] <Arcademan> 10.04 is LTS :)
[03:07] <ohhi> so sory it was ati rage
[03:08] <urlin2u> Arcademan, Natty has gnome2 sort of it is called classic
[03:08] <coz_> ati rage?  wow isnt that an older card?
[03:08] <escott> watisdis, most likely you need to chgrp to www and chmod 750 chmod g+s the folder
[03:08]  * szal is suprised that an ATI Rage will run w/ Linux at all
[03:08] <ohhi> oh i wrote that before ^^ i thought i wrote something other
[03:08] <Arcademan> I just don;t like the dock and I know urlin2u :)
[03:08] <robin0800> urlin2u, onercic has gnome its called gnome
[03:09] <ohhi> seems so
[03:09] <rww> All currently released versions of Ubuntu use GNOME 2. 11.10 will use GNOME 3. 11.04 and 11.10 use Unity instead of the GNOME panel interface or GNOME Shell.
[03:09] <szal> ohhi: my guess is that it's just too low on gfx memory to do anything meaningful
[03:09] <urlin2u> robin0800, okay.
[03:09] <user99> what's the /boot/grub/grubenv? it's chock full of #'s about 8-9 rows of them
[03:10] <Berto> Hi, i have 10.04 LTS and there's a MySQL bug killing me... what's the best way to upgrade MySQL?
[03:10] <Tophen_> Guys, I'm at the final stage but when I select the ext4 partition on my external hard drive, it says no root file system detected?
[03:10] <escott> user99, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Environment-block.html
[03:10] <user99> very little difference between the last two kernel configs...I dunno...at least /home is on a different partition if I have to blow it away
[03:10] <Tophen_> Any help?
[03:10] <szal> ohhi: 'lsb_release -a' please
[03:10] <user99> k thx
[03:11] <galamar> urlin2u It says synaptic is already at its most current version, but did suggest I run "apt-get autoremove. So I did that. Any further ideas?
[03:11] <escott> user99, all those # are to pad it out to 1024 bytes
[03:11] <ohhi> command not found
[03:11] <stuntmachine> In a networked environment, is there a standard way of syncing your .bashrc across multiple machines?
[03:11] <escott> Tophen, every install must have a partition that will be "/"
[03:11] <szal> ohhi: meaning you don't run *buntu on that thing -> end of support
[03:11] <Arcademan> May I ask one last q do you guys ever plan to unlock the top dock to add apps @ things :)
[03:12] <Tophen_> Ok, so is that is that like the name or??  How do I fix it?
[03:12] <histo> stuntmachine: you could rsync it
[03:12] <rww> Arcademan: ask #ayatana
[03:12] <YankDownUnder> Arcademan, If you're using Unity, um, no.
[03:12] <urlin2u> galamar, not really to much missing and problems for me to suggest more.
[03:12] <escott> stuntmachine, there are various approaches. some just scp files around. others rsync home directories, some share homes across nfs. i like to put config files in a git repo and check in check out changes
[03:12] <stuntmachine> i like the git thing
[03:12] <user99> iirc when I booted ubuntu 10.04 it spent about half an hour searching for a network or something before I got a desktop...should just give up and tell the user.
[03:12] <stuntmachine> that sounds really clean
[03:12] <ohhi> szel i told before no others could help me besides its the same problem at *buntu
[03:13] <feyd> where is the default session file for GDM?
[03:13] <histo> stuntmachine: rsync in cron is pretty clean also
[03:13] <szal> ohhi: no *buntu, no support here, simple as that
[03:13] <stuntmachine> rsync in cron doesn't have version control
[03:13] <escott> feyd, grep gdm from /etc/passwd it is in gdm
[03:13] <escott> feyd, it is in gdm's $HOME
[03:13] <[THC]AcidRain> hax
[03:13] <[THC]AcidRain> btw, aw0ken icon them is super omega leet
[03:13] <galamar> urlin2u, is there a way to easily remove and reinstall my repos back to the defaults?
[03:14] <Tophen_> escott?
[03:14] <histo> ohhi: install a command line ssytem and see if you can get just X working then work from there
[03:14] <escott> Tophen_, yes?
[03:14] <urlin2u> galamar, why would you want a person who says they are not comfortable help?
[03:14] <Tophen_> How do I set it to / ?
[03:14] <szal> galamar: you could try 'sudo apt-get -f install' (with no further arguments)
[03:15] <ohhi> histo : u mean typing in xinit ?
[03:15] <escott> Tophen_, when you partitioned you must have a partition with a mountpoint of "/"
[03:15] <YankDownUnder> ohhi, "startx"
[03:15] <Tophen_> Ok, how do I do that?
[03:15] <ohhi> white screen as i told
[03:16] <escott> Tophen_, how did you partition the disk for the install
[03:16] <Tophen_> I used disk manager
[03:16] <Tophen_> and partitioned 450gb to NTFS
[03:16] <Tophen_> and 50gb to ext4
[03:16] <Tophen_> that's all I know.
[03:16] <user99> escott: I seem to remember having to add something to the grub command line to make it boot originally...wonder if I can find it in launchpad
[03:17] <escott> user99, does your original menu.lst still exist
[03:17] <galamar> szal, no luck with that it just says that there are 2 packages not upgraded (wine and google-chrome).
[03:17] <user99> there is a menu.lst~
[03:17] <user99> would that be it?
[03:18] <szal> galamar: then 'sudo apt-get update' and try again
[03:18] <szal> galamar: whatever you were trying to do before, that is
[03:18] <ohhi> szal :there is no point in that command it hapens to all distros and i will install ubuntu if i can get it running but its too slow for live using so o try a with a lighter distro for now
[03:19] <escott> user99, good enough its a backup file from something like vim but it should contain the data
[03:20] <escott> Tophen_, you are getting this error message from the installer right
[03:20] <user99> aha...nomce
[03:20] <user99> found it
[03:20] <Tophen_> escott yeah
[03:20] <user99> let's try that
[03:21] <escott> Tophen, so after you have partitioned you start the installer and you pick the partitions to install to correct
[03:21] <Tophen_> Yeh.
[03:22] <Tophen_> And I chose my 50gb ext4 partition
[03:22] <Tophen_> it's /dev/sdb2
[03:22] <crusade_voxie> how to create backup and restore ubuntu?
[03:22] <galamar> szal, same error. It doesn't want to do anything.
[03:23] <escott> Tophen_, can you send a screenshot of that page
[03:23] <Tophen_> Uhhh
[03:23] <escott> !backup | crusade_voxie
[03:23] <user99> 'roger Houston we have lift off"
[03:23] <Tophen_> how do i screenshto on ubuntu?
[03:23] <user99> ;-)
[03:24] <Tophen_> And where Will I paste it?
[03:24] <escott> Tophen_, printscreen and then imageshack or imagebin or some variant. not sure if the installer will let you take a screenshot
[03:24] <user99> chip is onboard ati 3300 and not 4200 chipset is 790g
[03:24] <crusade_voxie> thank for the info.
[03:24] <escott> user99, what flag was it
[03:24] <user99> nomce
[03:25] <Tophen_> Ok. I'm on a macbook though... No prntscrn
[03:25] <robin0800> galmyou need to delete the software souces and then allow sudo aptitude-update to recreate them
[03:25] <user99> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9495949
[03:25] <user99> post I made is 'olbrannon'
[03:26] <ohhi> so you give up too ?
[03:27] <intrader> Anyone, after a disastrous failed upgrade to 11.04 and revert to 10.10, i
[03:27] <escott> !downgrade | intrader
[03:27] <phiV> with SSH, is there any way to save an IP that I keep using? like give it a name?
[03:27] <selig5> Tophen: shift+command+3 takes a screenshot on the MacBook
[03:28] <rww> phiV: yes, create ~/.ssh/config. see man ssh_config
[03:28] <phiV> k
[03:28] <phiV> rww: thanks
[03:28] <theadmin> phiV: /etc/hosts, too.
[03:28] <Tophen_> escott: http://imagebin.org/167230
[03:28] <JimmyNeutron> phiV, modify the hosts file and add it in there?
[03:28] <theadmin> phiV: That's not only for SSH but pretty much system-wide
[03:28] <intrader> escott, 'revert' full reinstall of 10.10
[03:28] <phiV> theadmin: ooo nice
[03:29] <JakeR003> hello
[03:29] <JakeR003> my follow amerikaan
[03:29] <escott> Tophen_, select the sdb2 and click on change. then you will be able to pick the mountpoint of "/"
[03:29] <Tophen_> Thanks :)
[03:29] <JakeR003> i have a simple question if you have time
[03:30] <theadmin> JakeR003: Not all of us are american you know.
[03:30] <Tophen_> So what is / ?
[03:30] <theadmin> Tophen_: The root partition
[03:30] <JimmyNeutron> dont ask to ask, just ask
[03:30] <Tophen_> Is that like the boot or is it the whole distro
[03:30] <Tophen_> Ok..
[03:30] <JakeR003> i'm not american too
[03:30] <theadmin> Tophen_: Basically, everything resides there.
[03:30] <Tophen_> So if I wanted a boot device...
[03:30] <Tophen_> Ahh.
[03:31] <theadmin> Tophen_: Then you'd mount it to /boot
[03:31] <bigtom21485> how do i add frostwire to ubuntu 10.10 x64, and am i better just do limewire instead?
[03:31] <Tophen_> Ok. Sounds good.
[03:31] <JimmyNeutron> thats nothing to be ashame of :)
[03:31] <wols_> Tophen_: there are no drive letters in Unix. instead you have a root directory under which all other directories are mounted. it is your starting point for all disks and devices
[03:31] <JakeR003> the admin
[03:31] <phiV> JimmyNeutron, theadmin, rww: thanks for your help. I put it in /etc/hosts and it works exactly like I want it
[03:31] <wsbl-uhpd651> Hello.  I need some help.  My computer encounters a mounting error when starting Ubuntu 11.04 - and won't boot up ...
[03:31] <JakeR003> when i used ubuntu for a few days then i removed the DNS server IP it still access the internet
[03:32] <wols_> Tophen_: have you answered the question if you can boot from your EHD?
[03:32] <JakeR003> i think cached DNS inquires
[03:32] <JakeR003> how do i stop that?
[03:32] <Tophen_> I'm still going at it :)
[03:32] <wols_> JakeR003: cat /etc/resolv.conf#
[03:32] <JakeR003> yeah i want it disabled
[03:32] <Tophen_> That's what I was about to ask.
[03:32] <wols_> JakeR003: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[03:32] <JakeR003> i think you can disable services in ubuntu
[03:32] <bigtom21485> wsbl-uhpd651: have you tried running ubuntu from a livecd just to see if it's something with your harddrive?
[03:32] <moparirc_c7sND> hi
[03:32] <JakeR003> i don't want DNS caching at all
[03:32] <wols_> JakeR003: DNS is not a "service" as you call it
[03:32] <Tophen_> So how about I have 1 partition of 50gb in ext4 for /... and 450gb NTFS for files.
[03:32] <theadmin> phiV: Obviously. btw, a good line for /etc/hosts is "0.0.0.0 microsoft.com". Kidding of course but :D
[03:32] <moparirc_c7sND> i hacked a website
[03:33] <JakeR003> yeah tell me what you call it
[03:33] <moparirc_c7sND> so fuck awesome... lol
[03:33] <JakeR003> i'm not expert here
[03:33] <phiV> theadmin: lol
[03:33] <session> hmm
[03:33] <rww> !ot | moparirc_c7sND
[03:33] <theadmin> !ops | moparirc_c7sND
[03:33] <Tophen_> Could I create another 50gb or so to boot only?
[03:33] <rww> theadmin: That does not constitute a channel emergency.
[03:33] <JakeR003> how to stop ubuntu from cashing dns names ?
[03:33] <intrader> escott, I need help with google chrome configuration restore - I copied .config from saved image to no avail
[03:33] <moparirc_c7sND> i hacked website
[03:33] <wsbl-uhpd651> bigtom21485: The problem has to do with fsat.  I edited that file so as to hopefully fix a problem with a flash drive not mounting correctly.  Not it looks for the line 9 there - and it is not there.
[03:33] <wols_> JakeR003: it's called the DNS resolver usually. and you cannot disable its caching since any program can and will cache on its own. but I doubt you have disabled DNS unless you tell us what you actually did
[03:33] <theadmin> rww: Illegal topics do iirc
[03:33] <theadmin> rww: But okay
[03:34] <bigtom21485> so a stock ubuntu setup on a ssd won't work?
[03:34] <escott> intrader, chrome? like chrome book?
[03:34] <phiV> anyone else having trouble installing haskell-platform in ubuntu 11.04?
[03:34] <theadmin> bigtom21485: How so? Should work... if there's enough space
[03:34] <JakeR003> wols the ipv4 is set to manual and i don't want ubuntu to contact a dns server
[03:34] <intrader> escott, google  browser
[03:34] <bigtom21485> wsbl-uhpd651: so you put in an ssd and it didn't see it?
[03:34] <wols_> JakeR003: cat /etc/resolv.conf  I am still waiting for an answer
[03:34] <JakeR003> but it cached older requests and it still access sites even without DNS server
[03:34] <Tophen_> wols_, So should I have one partition at 20gb in ext4 for /boot, 50gb in ext4 for / and 430gb for NTFS?
[03:35] <JakeR003> ok so how can i stop it from doing that in the future if i add dns server to it
[03:35] <bigtom21485> wsbl-uhpd651: or you mean a thumb drive (flash memory in a keychain)?
[03:35] <wols_> Tophen_: no
[03:35] <ohhi> so its running, ubuntu and quiet fast  too thx for nothing -.-
[03:35] <theadmin> Tophen_: Um, 10gb for /boot should be plenty
[03:35] <JakeR003> stop it from putting the resolved sites to that resolv.conf
[03:35] <Tophen_> OK. SO 3 partitions?
[03:35] <escott> intrader, no idea sorry
[03:35] <theadmin> Tophen_: 3, you may also want a separate /home
[03:35] <wols_> Tophen_: you should have a single partition / with maximum of ~50GB, and rest NTFS. install your ubuntu already and stop pestering people endlessly
[03:35] <theadmin> Tophen_: I strongly recommend that
[03:35] <theadmin> wols_: Hey that's not nice
[03:35] <Tophen_> Alrighty :)
[03:36] <wsbl-uhpd651> bigtom21485: right.  I then I was told to take the UUID of the flash drive out of /etc/fsat.  So I removed all of line 9.  Now my computer won't boot up into Ubuntu properly - and gives me a mounting error - because it is looking for that line 9 in fsat (a major system file) which is no longer there ...
[03:36] <session> does anyone know how to get gps working on ubuntu?
[03:36] <Tophen_> Nah it's cool I've been bothering everyone for ages with stupid errors.
[03:36] <Tophen_> But now I should be done.
[03:36] <wsbl-uhpd651> bigtom21485: So how do I recover this and restore fsat to its original state?
[03:36] <theadmin> wsbl-uhpd651: Sorry, do you mean /etc/fstab?
[03:36] <wols_> theadmin: I'm not here to be "nice". I'm here to help people to actually solve people's problems. asking on irc the same shit time and again won't help.
[03:36] <Tophen_> ONE more thing. How will I boot with no /boot partition?
[03:36] <intrader> Anyone, after a disastrous failed upgrade to 11.04 and revert to 10.10, I need to restore google browser and tomboy
[03:36] <theadmin> wols_: Then don't help them.
[03:36] <wsbl-uhpd651> theadmin: yes, I mean "fstab", sorry ...
[03:37] <theadmin> Tophen_: Uhm, you don't really need /boot to be on a separate partition
[03:37] <theadmin> Tophen_: If it's not, it's just a folder on /
[03:37] <h00k> wols_: it's great you help, but please mind the language (you've been asked before, as well)
[03:37] <wsbl-uhpd651> bigtom21485: sorry, I mean the file name to be "fstab" ...
[03:37] <bigtom21485> wsbl-uhpd651: i apoligize, that's beyond my level of knowledge. i would check forums and other chat room if someone in here can't help you.
[03:37] <Tophen_> Oh.. right.
[03:37] <Tophen_> Thanks everyone, sorry for the troubles :)
[03:37] <robin0800> Tophen, unless you are doing something unusual you don't need a separate boot partition these days realy just / and /home
[03:37] <szal> ohhi: most probable explanation is lack of VRAM
[03:37] <wols_> h00k: and I've told you before what useless waste of bandwith you are. help people instead.
[03:37] <JakeR003> guys.. 1 last question
[03:38] <JakeR003> how to slim the size of ubuntu? reduce it
[03:38] <session> lol
[03:38] <session> useless waste of bandwidth
[03:38] <theadmin> JakeR003: Sorry, um, lolwut? Uninstall some apps?
[03:38] <wsbl-uhpd651> theadmin: can you help me recover - and boot up properly again?
[03:38] <JakeR003> yeah but that takes forever
[03:38] <bigtom21485> wsbl-uhpd651: give me a minute i'll try and help you, this way ill know how to set up an ssd in ubuntu when the time comes
[03:38] <theadmin> wsbl-uhpd651: I think... could be...
[03:38] <bigtom21485> wsbl-uhpd651 ;-)
[03:38] <urlin2u> it is officially the ocd hour. ;)
[03:38] <theadmin> wsbl-uhpd651: Let me think. Add "init=/bin/bash" to the kernel line.
[03:39] <bigtom21485> wsbl-uhpd651: which version are you running and are you x86 or x64?
[03:39] <ohhi> well games and video seem to run so i dont think so
[03:39] <wsbl-uhpd651> theadmin: it is currently running a maintenance shell - and is not fully booted into Ubuntu ...
[03:39] <Tophen_> wols_, well, after all that, I'm doing it.
[03:39] <theadmin> wsbl-uhpd651: Check your fstab again then
[03:39] <Tophen_> Thanks much guys :)
[03:39] <theadmin> wsbl-uhpd651: Make sure it's not containing any weird things
[03:39] <bigtom21485> wsbl-uhpd651: if we can find a way to edit stuff without booting ubuntu that should help you :-)
[03:39] <wsbl-uhpd651> bigtom21485: ummm ... I think it's x64?  I'm running 11.04, if that helps ...
[03:39] <theadmin> bigtom21485: We can always boot without mounting other devices.
[03:40] <yokobr> hi guys...
[03:40] <theadmin> bigtom21485: init handles that, so if we avoid init... ;)
[03:40] <wsbl-uhpd651> bigtom21485: yes, that is what I need ... because I currently cannot boot into Ubuntu ...
[03:40] <bigtom21485> wsbl-uhpd651: is the ssd your only drive?
[03:40] <szal> ohhi: that card can't have more than 8 MB of RAM, and according to my calculation a screen image of 1024x768 w/ 16bit colour depth (262k colours) will already need 12 MB
[03:40] <ohhi> anyway by guys
[03:41] <yokobr> does anybody know how to make a gma 950 graphic card don`t suck that much?
[03:41] <Tophen_> NO!
[03:41] <Tophen_> ubi-usersetup crashed!
[03:41] <ohhi> but it runs now >_<
[03:41] <wsbl-uhpd651> bigtom21485: what do you mean by "ssd".  Last time I reformatted (which was recently), I installed the previous version before 11.04 first - and then upgraded to 11.04 via the update manager.  So it could be partitioned between the two versions ...
[03:41] <Tophen_> exit code 1... goddamnit
[03:41] <wsbl-uhpd651> bigtom21485: probably is ...
[03:41] <bigtom21485> wsbl-uhpd651: solid state drive. a hard drive based solely on flash memory instead of magnetic platters like a traditional hard drive.
[03:41] <V13Axel> Is there a way to theme the console program known as Finch?
[03:42] <theadmin> Tophen_: Happens. Just repeat everything how you did before
[03:42] <Tophen_> ok.
[03:42] <theadmin> V13Axel: How can you "theme" console programs?
[03:42] <Tophen_> so cancel and retry?
[03:42] <theadmin> V13Axel: Also, finch rules xD
[03:42] <theadmin> Tophen_: Yeah
[03:42] <ohhi> with some ubuntu deverate called bodhi
[03:42] <wsbl-uhpd651> bigtom21485: does it take a while for this maintenance shell to finish - because currently I just have a black screen ...
[03:42] <Tophen_> Got it.
[03:42] <V13Axel> theadmin: Chaning the colors of different parts of it. Ever used MOCP music player? It supports themes.
[03:42] <theadmin> !derivatives | ohhi
[03:42] <bigtom21485> wsbl-uhpd651: ive never had more than one version of ubuntu and when i had a partition it was during my transition from windows to ubuntu which as you can imagine only lasted a short time 8-)
[03:42] <theadmin> V13Axel: Hm, honestly... I dunno. Because I also use Windows, I prefer Pidgin over Finch so...
[03:43] <bigtom21485> wsbl-uhpd651: which version are you trying to boot?
[03:43] <twister004> hi guys... I am trying to use a USB device to connect to the internet via my ubuntu 10.04 laptop... the device is not detected until I manually reboot the laptop with the USB still connected to it... could someone help?
[03:43] <wsbl-uhpd651> bigtom21485: yeah.  makes sense.  should i just do yet another hard restart?
[03:43] <V13Axel> theadmin: I'm currently using a headless server via SSH, and I prefer to use commandline programs.
[03:43] <theadmin> V13Axel: Makes perfect sense hehe :D
[03:43] <wsbl-uhpd651> theadmin: do you have any other input?
[03:43] <theadmin> wsbl-uhpd651: Sorry, I lost you there
[03:43] <theadmin> wsbl-uhpd651: Well, um... Trough the recovery shell, can you make sure /etc/fstab is normal?
[03:44] <Arcademan> May I ask what channels are you guys all listed in
[03:44] <theadmin> Arcademan: /whois would tell you that about a certain person
[03:44] <qin> V13Axel: You could try irssi with bitlbee.
[03:44] <wsbl-uhpd651> theadmin: fstab is not normal.  This is why I am having problems.  Someone on here previously told me to edit it - and I should have never done that ...
[03:44] <th0r> Arcademan: ABC, NBC, and FOX
[03:44] <bigtom21485> wsbl-uhpd651: no, you can use both. although my preference is 10.10 because unity frustrates me, its not my place to make the choice for you.
[03:44] <theadmin> Arcademan: Try /whois theadmin
[03:44] <theadmin> wsbl-uhpd651: No, it's okay to edit fstab...
[03:45] <wsbl-uhpd651> theadmin: I don't know how I would check fstab anyway without being able to boot into Ubuntu ...
[03:45] <Arcademan> rolf I meant the Ubuntu list like #unbutu-desktop ect
[03:45] <theadmin> wsbl-uhpd651: Make sure line 9 doesn't exist at all. Empty line won't do, I think
[03:45] <theadmin> Arcademan: Ah.
[03:45] <theadmin> Arcademan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[03:45] <wsbl-uhpd651> theadmin: Ok.  That is a relieve.  what do you think?  Should I just wait for this maintenance shell to finish or do a hard restart ...
[03:45] <bigtom21485> wsbl-uhpd651: did you catch my message wabout what an "ssd" is?
[03:46] <theadmin> wsbl-uhpd651: Um, do it with the maintenace shell...
[03:46] <wsbl-uhpd651> bigtom21485: yes, thank you :)
[03:46] <theadmin> wsbl-uhpd651: Try this: nano /etc/fstab
[03:46] <qin> !elis > qin
[03:46] <bigtom21485> wsbl-uhpd651: okay i have several computers with ubuntu so im gunna walk you through this by doing it myself
[03:46] <Tophen_> theadmin, it did it again!
[03:47] <Tophen_> should i scrnshot?
[03:47] <Arcademan> ty theadmin
[03:47] <theadmin> Tophen_: Wow, now this sucks... You could, altough I don't think that could help me
[03:47] <Tophen_> ok...
[03:47] <Tophen_> Ill retry and tell you my steps.
[03:47] <theadmin> Tophen_: It'd be better to switch to PM in my opinion, cause it seems everyone is tired of you -- idk
[03:47] <wsbl-uhpd651> theadmin: OK - I have fstab up.  I don't think line 9 is there at all.  I forgot that I am now pretty much in a pre-boot Terminal window ... and can still run commands ...
[03:47] <Tophen_> Yeahhh..
[03:48] <theadmin> wsbl-uhpd651: lol :D
[03:48] <bigtom21485> how do i open a tty without booting ubuntu?
[03:48] <wsbl-uhpd651> theadmin: sorry ... I know ... that is the best way I can describe it.  Kinda rough language ...
[03:48] <theadmin> wsbl-uhpd651: I understand it lol
[03:49] <theadmin> bigtom21485: Add "init=/bin/bash" to your kernel line
[03:49] <bigtom21485> theadmin: what baout temporarily?
[03:49] <theadmin> bigtom21485: Um, do it trough the GRUB menu
[03:49] <wsbl-uhpd651> bigtom21485: thanks for your help ... I'm waiting for your instructions.  What commands do I run to recover this whole situation and restore fstab to its original state?
[03:49] <theadmin> bigtom21485: Then it won't be permanent
[03:49] <rico__> opne
[03:49] <rico__> open
[03:49] <rico__> o #gnucash
[03:50] <bigtom21485> theadmin: how do i bring up the grub menu? f5 right after the bios?
[03:50] <theadmin> rico__: /join #gnucash
[03:50] <theadmin> bigtom21485: I think it's Shift
[03:50] <urlin2u> e
[03:50] <urlin2u> bigtom21485, any key
[03:51] <wsbl-uhpd651> theadmin: how do I get out of fstab after running "nano /etc/fstab" ???
[03:51] <arghx> wsbl-uhpd651: look at the bottom two lines
[03:51] <theadmin> wsbl-uhpd651: Ctrl+X
[03:52] <wsbl-uhpd651> theadmin: thanks.  save modified buffer?
[03:52] <yokobr> hey guys, anybody with intel graphics?
[03:52] <theadmin> wsbl-uhpd651: I guess if you modified it, yes
[03:53] <wsbl-uhpd651> theadmin: bigtom21485 has left the room.  I guess that leaves you and me.  Can you walk me through the recovery process?
[03:53] <theadmin> wsbl-uhpd651: If only I'd know your fstab contents
[03:54] <wsbl-uhpd651> theadmin: OK.  Isn't there a way to restore it - or somehow grab a default copy by running commands?
[03:55] <theadmin> wsbl-uhpd651: There is no such thing as a default copy, cause it all depends on your device configuration
[03:55] <wsbl-uhpd651> theadmin:  man, this is the last time I try fixing a flash drive that won't mount.  Good thing I got my pictures saved, though ...
[03:56] <SeeknDestroy> fixed qutie a few seemingly dead unmountable flash drives by using DD to zerofill them
[03:56] <wsbl-uhpd651> theadmin: OK.  what else do you suggest?
[03:56] <theadmin> wsbl-uhpd651: Honestly... Nothing. Sorry.
[03:57] <SeeknDestroy> wsbl... can ya summarize yer prob in one line... I got here after you asked it...
[03:57] <Derpadong> #debian
[03:57] <Derpadong> Oops
[03:58] <wsbl-uhpd651> SeeknDestroy: Ubuntu will not boot up because I edited my fstab file - and now it is giving me a mounting error upon boot up ...
[03:58] <wsbl-uhpd651> SeeknDestroy: unfortunately, I don't know what my fstab file originally looked like ...
[03:58] <SeeknDestroy> ouch
[03:58] <SeeknDestroy> lemme google quick and see if there's a commadn that can recreate it
[03:59] <wsbl-uhpd651> SeeknDestroy: I was told to edit this fstab file in order to fix a flash drive mounting problem.  Bad idea ...
[04:00] <luddite> greetings ubuntu peeps.  i am having issues after upgrading to Oneiric Osceolot.  the error is 'Could not update ICEauthority file /home/user/.ICEauthority
[04:00] <h00k> luddite: you can get Oneric help in #ubuntu+1
[04:00] <mokti> Does anyone know about ThinkPad b/g/n wireless compatibility? I've heard that some ThinkPad wireless adapters don't work well with ubuntu/linux
[04:00] <YankDownUnder> luddite, Ya know this ain't "normal" for distro, ya?
[04:00] <h00k> !wireless | mokti you can check supported hardware here
[04:01] <wsbl-uhpd651> While SeeknDestory is looking ... does anyone else know how to restore an fstab file.  I just need to get the home directory to mount - which currently it is not upon boot up ...
[04:03] <wsbl-uhpd651> SeeknDestroy: I am currently looking too, so ... Thanks for your help - maybe we can solve this one between the two of us ...
[04:04] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, is home on a partition by itself?
[04:05] <luddite> has anyone decided to use gnome3 instead of unity?
[04:05] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: I don't know ...
[04:05] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: what command do I run to check that?
[04:06] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, you would know you would of had to install with a separate home.
[04:06] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, sudo blkid will give you the uuid though if that's what your missing.
[04:07] <twister004> hi guys... I am trying to use a USB device to connect to the internet via my ubuntu 10.04 laptop... the device is not detected until I manually reboot the laptop with the USB still connected to it... could someone help?
[04:07] <urlin2u> twister004, it is a wireless usb right?
[04:07] <twister004> urlin2u: yes
[04:07] <JakeR003> how much RAM is needed by ubuntu?
[04:08] <ram0042> twister004, you got to modprobe if your using ndiswrapper or the driver
[04:08] <JakeR003> is 1GB enough?
[04:08] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: last time I reformatted, I just used a previous version of Ubuntu I had on CD - then upgraded to 11.04 via the update manager.  I didn't do anything special ...
[04:08] <younishd> it depends of the DE
[04:08] <JakeR003> or 512MB
[04:08] <YankDownUnder> JakeR003, 16gb, minimum. Plus 300gb of swap. ;)
[04:08] <twister004> ram0042: how do i do that
[04:08] <younishd> 1gb is enough yea
[04:08] <JakeR003> YankDownUnder minimum without effecting the speed of the OS
[04:08] <JakeR003> 512MB enough or more?
[04:08] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: this is what I get when I run "sudo blkid" ...
[04:08] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, did you understand my UUID refrence?
[04:09] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: yes
[04:09] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, don't flood pastebin it
[04:09] <OldFarter> Any ideas on how to make my laptop connect to wifi networks faster?
[04:09] <twister004> ram0042: how do I modprobe?.. do I have to edit any file?... I've modprobed my psmouse device before... please clarify
[04:09] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, paste bin your fstab and the blkid
[04:09] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: how do I pastebin again.  I am typing it manually - as I am currently on a Windows machine on freenode Web ...
[04:10] <ram0042> twister004: you have to find out what driver you are using, i forget the command for that
[04:10] <SeeknDestroy> wsbl... no utility to automatically recreate it... going to have to use LiveCD... mount your root partition... use fdisk -l to list partitions... look at some fstab examples online... and try your best to edit it back to a usable setting
[04:10] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, are you on a live cd on the broken computer.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[04:11] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: no, I am on a different computer (a Windows PC) while staring at the information on the screen of my broken computer ...
[04:11] <SeeknDestroy> wsbl-uhpd651... do as urlin2u suggests.... get on the livecd... and post contents of your /etc/fstab (on hard disk) and fdisk -l so we can help you edit it
[04:11] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, get a live cd and boot that computer with i=and you will get some help.
[04:11] <Renegade_> I have a intel atom 330 nvida ion with 2GB ram...should I install 32bit or 64bit?
[04:12] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651,  will even post my fstsb just tweak and your off to the races.
[04:12] <somsip> Renegade_: do you have a 64 bit CPU?
[04:12] <ram0042> twister004: the only way I know how to do this is via the airmon-ng but there is a better way to get it. just not remembering
[04:13] <Renegade_> yeah it is capable
[04:13] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: OK.  I copied the Ubuntu image (for 11.04 and the previous version) to a CD in case I ever had to re-install.  This is not the same as the live CD, right?
[04:13] <Renegade_> but I only got 2gb ram
[04:13] <somsip> Renegade_: there is very little software that is not supported now. You might have to fiddle with Skype and flashplugin, but that may be all.
[04:13] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: I just don't know if I have a "live CD" or not ...
[04:13] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, a live cd to access the fstab file take your pick about 300 distros out there.
[04:14] <urlin2u> brb
[04:14] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: OK.  I will attempt to burn it one of the distros to a CD on this Windows PC ...
[04:15] <wsbl-uhpd651> Can anyone tell me where to go to get a live CD distro?
[04:15] <SeeknDestroy> wsbl-uhpd651... if you're lacking windows burning software... get "ImgBurn" from www.download.com
[04:15] <younishd> ubuntu.com
[04:15] <SeeknDestroy> wsbl-uhpd651.... www.ubuntu.com :)
[04:15] <younishd> (:
[04:16] <Pilif12p> wsbl-uhpd651: unetbootin makes it (a lot) easier to make a USB live-boot thing
[04:17] <Pilif12p> http://www.hersheysstore.com/product_detail.asp?T1=HSH+034000363025&trk_src_ss=HSHVMLFDWEBMACSS|SEO|GB|
[04:17] <Pilif12p> eh
[04:17] <Pilif12p> that's not the right link
[04:17] <FloodBot1> Pilif12p: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:17] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, preferred would be you having a live cd of the install. You should always have one. :)
[04:18] <Pilif12p> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[04:19] <JakeR003> what is the minimum amount of RAM that ubuntu needs?
[04:20] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: I think I already do for 11.04.  It just would work last time I tried to reformat with it.  Let me put it in to see if it works.  Otherwise, can I use the one from the previous version?
[04:20] <JakeR003> without effecting the performance
[04:20] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003.... 512mb
[04:20] <JakeR003> thanks
[04:20] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: if nothing else, maybe I'll just burn a fresh copy ...
[04:20] <JakeR003> wonderful
[04:20] <luddite> ok, my tail -f /var/log/syslog output says that apparmor denidied my login
[04:20] <luddite> my permissions and ownership are correct
[04:20] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003.... 1gb is preferred.....   if you have only 512mb your system would run better on Xubuntu or Lubuntu (lighter desktop environments)
[04:20] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, yeah, just a live cd that will get you to a desktop, then you can get to fstab and post it along with the blkid command answers.
[04:21] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, if your running Natty I would get one eventually.
[04:22] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: OK ... just give me a sec ... I am trying my 11.04 live CD first ...
[04:23] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: should I just do a hard restart with the disc in?
[04:26] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: last time I tried this CD, it just hung on the starting screen and never moved ... which tells me it properly didn't burn right ...
[04:26] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, I haven't been following everything I would do a soft shutdown if needed.  crtl-alt-prtsc eisub the letter slowly
[04:26] <urlin2u> letters
[04:26] <theadmin> urlin2u: you forgot the r
[04:27] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, just for the record you will be best to just post what informtion we need a play by play of whether you can boot a cd is well irritating at least to me. Just the facts needed.
[04:28] <urlin2u> theadmin, thanks I use not often. ;)
[04:28] <intrader> Anyone, after a disastrous failed upgrade to 11.04 and revert to 10.10, I need to restore google browser settings. I find what seems to be previous /home - I also have an old Simple Backup set
[04:28] <urlin2u> time for a break
[04:29] <theadmin> urlin2u: Raising Skinny Elephants Is Utterly Boring
[04:30] <Tophen_> 838 959 152
[04:30] <Tophen_> Oops sorry wrong chat
[04:30] <gry> np
[04:30] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: do I need to do anything as the CD is booting up ??? Or just let it run?
[04:30] <GreenCloud> ;)
[04:30] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: I don't need to push anything, do I?
[04:31] <widewake> hello, using 10.10 and would like to make all of my desktop items smaller. i can individual resize them, but not all
[04:31] <gry> no
[04:31] <gry> widewake: define "desktop items"
[04:32] <urlin2u> theadmin, you have to chrot to edit the fstab am I right, from a live cd
[04:32] <urlin2u> chroot
[04:32] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: cool.  I saw that.  Thanks :)
[04:33] <zykotick9> urlin2u, you don't need to chroot to edit fstab, just edit it directly
[04:33] <somsip> urlin2u: no - just mount / (or /etc) somewhere useful
[04:34] <luddite> heya guys... has anyone here had .ICEauthority issues and logging into unity
[04:35] <urlin2u> zykotick9, cool I always instal nautilus gksu so I can right click admin it makes life so easy.
[04:36] <widewake> gry, desktop icons*
[04:36] <gry> widewake: I'm sorry, I don't see a way to resize them at all. :)
[04:37] <widewake> gry,  kk =) ill keep googlin
[04:37] <zykotick9> widewake, can you just increase your resolution?  that would make the icons smaller.
[04:38] <GreenCloud> widewake: try open nautilus, then click Edit -> Preference -> then change the Icon View Defaults to either 50 or 66%
[04:38] <GreenCloud> widewake: that will resize all icons including the ones on your desktop
[04:38] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: OK.  I've run the Live CD from the previous version.  I am at the first screen.  I select "Try Ubuntu", right?
[04:39] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, yep
[04:40] <bobweaver> !remaster
[04:40] <noneabove1182> guys ive got a problem with WUBI ubuntu loading :/
[04:41] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: OK, I am in.  Just getting connected to the Internet ...
[04:41] <noneabove1182> ive got some pics of what i get right as it's failing to load   : http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/imag0409q.jpg/     http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/imag0409q.jpg/    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/840/imag0411k.jpg/
[04:42] <noneabove1182> or i guess a better way of putting it is thats the message at the end of the screen when it stops loading
[04:43] <noneabove1182> anyone ??
[04:43] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: OK, I am connected.  So now I post the results of "sudo blkid" and fstab to the pastebin, right?  Can you give me the address of the pastebin again?
[04:43] <urlin2u> zykotick9, whats the mount for fstab, I always use nautilus gksu I don't know the command
[04:43] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: Thanks :)
[04:44] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, yeah, I just don't know the read and write mount for fstab from a live cd.
[04:44] <noneabove1182> no one have any idea whats going on or just no one looking ? lmao
[04:44] <zykotick9> urlin2u, i don't understand your question.  you can use "sudo mount -a" to mount everything listed in fstab, or "sudo nano /etc/fstab" to edit fstab
[04:45] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: OK, I have the URL for pastebin.  So never mind.  Here I go ...
[04:45] <sessiongk> d
[04:46] <urlin2u> zykotick9, that will do it I think I rarely have to get to the OS via a live cd so I haven't really learned any mounting for edit if needed.\
[04:46] <noneabove1182> hello?????
[04:46] <noneabove1182> :/
[04:46] <zykotick9> urlin2u, oh to mount / you need to use something like "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" then "sudo nano /mnt/etc/fstab" sorta thing
[04:47] <urlin2u> ged
[04:47] <noneabove1182> guess no one knows whats going on with my ubuntu then...
[04:48] <urlin2u> wsb
[04:48] <gry> noneabove1182: hello
[04:48] <gry> please be patient here
[04:49] <gry> noneabove1182: if you ask your question on one line, it would help a lot
[04:49] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: OK.  I am running "sudo blkid" and looking at the fstab file.  Neither output looks like what I had before, though ...
[04:49] <noneabove1182> gry, well i was just hoping to get a REPLY lol, thanks for at least sayings something
[04:49] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, here is my fstab that may be all you need notice the posts by zykotick9 to mount for read and write of fstab   http://paste.ubuntu.com/662347/
[04:49] <noneabove1182> gry, well i said my ubuntu was failing to load then linked pictures of the screen i get when that happens
[04:50] <gry> noneabove1182: ok what you have is a kernel crash. Do you have version details? Does it happen every time?
[04:51] <zykotick9> urlin2u, FYI you really shouldn't have two entries for / in your fstab
[04:51] <gry> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/imag0409q.jpg/ is a good image for the thing
[04:51] <noneabove1182> gry,  its the newest stuff, i just installed via WUBI.exe, and it doesnt happen EVERY time it seems, just most of the time and once in awhile for no reason (it seems) it works, but on reboot again fails
[04:51] <zykotick9> urlin2u, you can use the command "sudo blkid" to find out which of your UUIDs is invalid
[04:52] <noneabove1182> gry, and it always seems to work each time i install it fresh but the second i reboot, again same error over and over
[04:52] <wsbl-uhpd651> zykotick9: OK, I'll be working with you then ... it looks like ...
[04:52] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: You have sda5 on line 9.  I had sda1 on that line ... and I don't know if the UUID is going to be same ...
[04:53] <gry> noneabove1182: so the question is 'wubi latest version, kernel crash on all reboots after a fresh install, http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6128/imag0409q.jpg'
[04:53] <zykotick9> wsbl-uhpd651, the UUIDs will NOT be the same!
[04:53] <gry> noneabove1182: I think you could try to add hardware details to this
[04:53] <noneabove1182> gry essentially
[04:53] <urlin2u> zykotick9, actually the second one is not even on the HD, I forget to edit at times.
[04:53] <noneabove1182> gry, its an hp pavilion dv6
[04:53] <noneabove1182> gry wait real quick, can you help or just telling me how to find help?
[04:54] <gry> noneabove1182: more of the latter (never used wubi myself)
[04:54] <noneabove1182> gry just curious if i should make a forum post
[04:54] <gry> go ahead and link people to that if you like
[04:54] <wsbl-uhpd651> zykotick9: OK.  thanks for the info.  here is my pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662350/
[04:54] <zykotick9> urlin2u, i'd guess that would cause a pause during your boot process, while it looks for that drive, then should fail and continue booting
[04:54] <noneabove1182> gry fair enough, i think ill just make a forum post and head to bed and check it in the morning
[04:54] <noneabove1182> gry thanks
[04:54] <gry> noneabove1182: good luck
[04:54] <noneabove1182> gry thanks, really want ubuntu to work
[04:55] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: here is my pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662350/.  I posted the results of "sudo blkid" and the fstab contents in it.
[04:55] <urlin2u> zykotick9, thanks for noticing though, since I know how to edit it from anywhere basically i forget to mess with it, I always have multiple OS's .
[04:55] <zykotick9> wsbl-uhpd651, this is some squashfs project you are working on?  sorry I have no idea what that is (other then the FS used on LiveCDs), so i really don't think I can help you.  Good luck.
[04:56] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: as you can see, the entry for sda1 is missing from the fstab.  And how do we edit it to get it to reference the home directory?
[04:57] <virtualdirt> How do I get into the que for a fairly simple question?
[04:57] <zykotick9> !ask | virtualdirt
[04:57] <faint545> virtualdirt, just ask
[04:57] <blackstar> hello, Anyone know where can i get a list for VoIP fraud countries ?
[04:57] <Zilly> I want to add icons for certain mimetypes.  I know that I need to add an image to the icon theme's mimetype folder, but I don't know how to figure out what I need to name the image so that it goes to the right file extension.
[04:58] <virtualdirt> Everytime I plug my Lenovo laptop into my droid it does this font crap errors on the installs.
[04:58] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: hey ~ did you get all the jpeg back ?
[04:58] <virtualdirt> I can get rid of it with a sudo apt-get remove  for the droid font but its back when I plug it back in
[04:58] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, http://paste.ubuntu.com/662355/
[04:59] <virtualdirt> ttf-droid <---- I believe?
[04:59] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: I did.  but then I tried fixing the flash drive mounting problem ... and then ran into those whole mess with fstab ... as you can see ...
[04:59]  * zykotick9 finds LABELS so much easier to work with then UUIDs
[05:00] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: the line you just pasted would go in line 10.  In line 9 I need to enter "# swap was on /dev/sda1 during installation", right?
[05:00] <faint545> virtualdirt, you want to get rid of this font?
[05:00] <virtualdirt> a nusance really but don't like letting my non linux friends seeing my linux show piece with errors on it
[05:01] <zykotick9> wsbl-uhpd651, anything with # at the beginning is a comment (meaning it is ignored)
[05:01] <virtualdirt> Anything to make the error go away and stay away
[05:01] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: errr i just jumped in ~ no idea what have been happening XD ~ you are in good hand thou ^^
[05:01] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, put it above the swap notation, technically I think line numbers are relative to how much is there.
[05:01] <faint545> virtualdirt, could you be more specific about these errors?
[05:02] <faint545> virtualdirt, paste them into pastie.org or pastebin.com
[05:02] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: I'll make darn sure to never buy another flash drive again unless I know it will be compatible with Linux - and not do weird formatting stuff upon initial use ...
[05:02] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, is line 12 the origibnal location just missing the UUID
[05:02] <blackstar> hello, Anyone know where can i get a list for VoIP fraud countries ?
[05:02] <Seven_Six_Two> evolution is not sending mail. The messages are just sitting in the outbox, and there is no error message when I send/receive
[05:02] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: yes, I think you are right on :)
[05:02] <seanmc98> wsbl-uhpd651, a majority of the time if you look on the back of the usb boz it will say compatable with linux
[05:02] <MalelDraconis> Hi, can someone remind me of the best way to convert .wma to .mp3 ?  I remember doing it through terminal, just don't remember the commands for it
[05:03] <wsbl-uhpd651> seanmc98: yeah, good call.  You would think a Geek Squad guy would have told me correctly, though.  BUT ... nyert ... he didn't ...
[05:04] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, not knowing any tweaks made to the line 12 $ 13for ease of use, you can try just slipping in your UUID, my fstab is just the stock notations.
[05:04] <urlin2u> &
[05:04] <seanmc98> wsbl-uhpd651, im surprized geek squad works with linux
[05:04] <pp7> anyone got netflix to work on linux?
[05:05] <Seven_Six_Two> that's messed up. I killed and restarted evolution, and now it sends.
[05:05] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: OK, so to edit the fstab - should I shut down, reboot the computer, and just edit it in command line upon start up?  I'm just not sure if the fstab I was looking at on this live CD is the one it will reference upon start up?
[05:05] <gry> pp7 yes some people did
[05:05] <pp7> how?
[05:05] <pp7> is there a guide?
[05:05] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: you are going to need to briefly guide me through editing process too ...
[05:06] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: thank you for all your help.  You have been very patient ...
[05:06] <widewake> will try that thx
[05:06] <h00k> pp7: the workaround is to run Windows in a virtual machine. As of now, there is not Netflix for Linux.
[05:06] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, per zykotick9 " oh to mount / you need to use something like "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" then "sudo nano /mnt/etc/fstab" sorta thing'  from the live cd
[05:06] <pp7> ah that's the crap way
[05:06] <pp7> i hear there is a native way for chromebook
[05:07] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, no problem we will se if it works.
[05:07] <h00k> pp7: They claim to be working on Linux playback within the next year
[05:07] <urlin2u> see
[05:07] <Seven_Six_Two> wsbl-uhpd651, /etc/fstab during livecd session is not the same. You would have to mount the partition that contains the /etc on your hd and then edit that file (which won't be at /etc during live session)
[05:07] <pp7> was wondering if its been ported to any other distro
[05:07] <pp7> as chromebook *afaik* runs linux
[05:07] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: OK.  Let's try this.  So if I mount with this command - the fstab will be automatically changed?  Sorry for my ignorance.  I am learning well ...
[05:08] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, as far as mounting the fstab for read and write I'm not really exsperienced there I use pther methods.
[05:08] <Seven_Six_Two> wsbl-uhpd651, mounting by hand does not change fstab in any way
[05:08] <urlin2u> other
[05:09] <urlin2u> Seven_Six_Two, thanks for the help. ;)
[05:09] <zykotick9> wsbl-uhpd651, if the fstab you pasted was from the LiveCD that would explain the squashfs stuff that surprised me
[05:09] <urlin2u> zykotick9, I wondered about that as well.
[05:11] <wsbl-uhpd651> zykotick9: I am pretty darn that is the same contents I had prior to working off the live CD (i.e. after I made the erroneous edit) ...
[05:11] <wsbl-uhpd651> zykotick9: for fstab, I mean ...
[05:11] <zykotick9> wsbl-uhpd651, i HIGHLY doubt that
[05:12] <zykotick9> wsbl-uhpd651, a regular fstab would NOT have squashfs stuff
[05:12] <wsbl-uhpd651> zykotick9: k.  well, at any rate I just need to add a couple lines to my fstab.  If I reboot and take out the live CD ... can I do this via command line?  Or does it have to be done off the live CD?
[05:13] <zykotick9> wsbl-uhpd651, it does NOT have to be done from LiveCD, IF you can boot your regular Ubuntu
[05:14] <MalelDraconis> Anyone know how to convert .wma to .mp3 from terminal?
[05:14] <gry> It's a FAQ.
[05:14] <gry> Well, I'll find it to you soon.
[05:14] <zykotick9> MalelDraconis, check out "lame"
[05:14] <pp7> ffmpeg -i blah.wav blah.mp3
[05:14] <pp7> erm wav = wma
[05:14] <zykotick9> MalelDraconis, pp7 ffmpeg suggestion might be better actually
[05:15] <Nicolus> ck c_nick
[05:15] <MalelDraconis> cool, thx guys
[05:15] <ParkerR> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[05:15] <wsbl-uhpd651> zykotick9: no - you actually were right - those results of "sudo blkid" are reading it from the live CD.  I just need the UUID from this, though ...
[05:15] <gry> pp7 /knows/ it. Good. ;-)
[05:16] <zykotick9> wsbl-uhpd651, i "believe" but am not 100% that the UUID values should be the same LiveCD or actual install
[05:16] <wsbl-uhpd651> zykotick9: OK, I am rebooting and taking the live CD out.  Can you help me do the proper edits for fstab via terminal commands?
[05:16] <zykotick9> wsbl-uhpd651, hopefully ;)
[05:16] <wsbl-uhpd651> zykotick9: thanks.  and you have been very patient and helpful too :)
[05:16] <urlin2u> I love suoer grub for just ths=ese sort of occasions
[05:17] <urlin2u> supergrub2
[05:18] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, worse case download supergrub2 t will get you into the distro. http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/
[05:19] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: OK.  I have that website up - in case I need to go back onto the live CD and do this ...
[05:20] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: it might be good to have anyway, wouldn't you say?
[05:20] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, supergrub is designed to boot a OS when it wont normally. I would just do that rather then making help try to help you from the command line.
[05:21] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, if you hahad supergrub2 and knew how to edit fstab we wouldn't be here.
[05:21] <alachiq> all: hi all. how to use laptop internet on galaxy S via wi-fi?
[05:21] <urlin2u> ;)
[05:22] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: yeah, maybe you are right.  that might be easier than putzing around with the command line.  Then I could also edit the fstab right in my normal environment.  OK, I'll put the live CD back in then ...
[05:22] <Tophen> Is it possible to get a bios on mac?
[05:22] <Tophen> i mean with bootcamp
[05:23] <Tophen> i don't have access to the mac/windows choice at the start.
[05:23] <h00k> Tophen: they don't have BIOS like PCs do
[05:23] <djcaston> hello… i have a laptop with ubuntu on it and i basically just want it to tunnel any traffic it gets over the wireless network that its connected to through the ethernet to a computer connected to it. is there a guide for doing this?
[05:23] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, cool supergrub2 is a invaluable tool at times, being in the OS is a lot easier. Supergrub is only about 1.7MB so it needs to be burned to a disc or loaded to a usb yhumb drive.
[05:23] <phizo> djcaston ubuntu would automatically detect it through Auto-eth0
[05:23] <phizo> wouldnt it guys>?
[05:23] <Tophen> So.. I'm stuffed?
[05:24] <Tophen> I can't run linux without disabling the internal hard drivw?
[05:24] <wildbat> !ot | Tophen search jailbreak or ask in mac channel.
[05:25] <Tophen> Thanks :)
[05:25] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: I'll put it on a thumb drive once I am back on the live CD.  zykotick9 has "left the building", so it's just us ...
[05:25] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, from the OS I can be more helpful.
[05:25] <djcaston> phizo it would work for regular web traffic, but not for *everything*. I even want to to send all ftp traffic and ssh traffic through the ubuntu laptop through ethernet to the connected computer
[05:25] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: good call
[05:26] <llutz_> djcaston: you'll need to activate ip-forwarding ("echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward) and setting an appropriate route
[05:26] <alachiq> how to use laptop internet on galaxy S via wi-fi?
[05:26] <MalelDraconis> pp7, when I tried command "ffmpeg -i blah.wma blah.mp3" it gave an error output of: "Unsupported codec for output stream #0.0"...  I made sure it was the most current version before passing the command...  Any ideas?
[05:26] <bazhang> alachiq, ubuntu in there somewhere?
[05:26] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, we don't want to bother the real power users nif possible, I have a alot of esperience but I use a lot of cheats, ti make things faster in my life.
[05:27] <alachiq> bazhang: yeh i have ubuntu
[05:27] <djcaston> llutz_ how do i do this so that it forwards all traffic?
[05:27] <pp7> MalelDraconis: hmm, install all codecs you can possibly find
[05:27] <bazhang> alachiq, what does that have to do with your question? internet connection sharing?
[05:27] <alachiq> bazhang: yeah!  internet connection sharing
[05:27] <pp7> MalelDraconis: search for codec in software center
[05:28] <MalelDraconis> pp7, k, thanks
[05:28] <bazhang> !ics | alachiq read this please
[05:29] <alachiq> bazhang: can i internet via wi-fi with this link?
[05:29] <alachiq> bazhang: *use
[05:29] <bazhang> alachiq, read the link yet?
[05:30] <alachiq> bazhang: yeah.i cant find any string "wi-fi"
[05:30] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: it's still booting back into the Live CD, so it'll be a few more minutes ...
[05:30]  * SatanHimself wants a billion Ubuntu CDs burned with fire, and then fed to Americans.
[05:30] <bazhang> !ot | SatanHimself
[05:30] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: we are almost there ... it's going to the first screen now ...
[05:31] <SatanHimself> bazhang: Right, Satan is sorry. :<
[05:32] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, cool I am trying to find supergrub 1.3 thats the one I use I think since natty has a somewhat hybrid grub2, 1.99 that is  found SG 1.3 to always work.
[05:32] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: OK.  Whichever one you want me to use.  You are leading the show, so ...
[05:32]  * SatanHimself has an idea,
[05:33] <bazhang> SatanHimself, actual support question?
[05:33] <SatanHimself> bazhang: I think so.
[05:33] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, I can't find the 1.3 as of now if  do i will post it, we will hope the regular works, probably does.
[05:34] <rww> urlin2u: it's not a hybrid, GRUB upstream's versioning is just screwy
[05:34]  * SatanHimself curtails his plans for #ubuntu
[05:34] <urlin2u> rww,I know it was my only choice of words.;)
[05:35] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: OK.  Cool.  It's booting into Ubuntu on the live CD right now ... so just hold your popcorn :)
[05:35] <bazhang> SatanHimself, chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[05:35] <SatanHimself> Okay.
[05:37] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: wow ... this is taking a while.  sorry ...
[05:38] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, argh I found the 1.3 http://super-grub-disk.en.malavida.com/download
[05:38] <erwt>  i have 2 machines and both use ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04  respectively .i want to do  audio redirection on both of them ,using pulseaudio ,can any one guide me ,i had followed the tutorial on        http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/332418-weekend-project-using-pulseaudio-to-share-sound-across-all-your-computers    but in vain
[05:38] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, you can download this on the windows machine, and use unetbootin to load it to a thumbv.
[05:40] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: OK.  Then if I do this on this Windows machine ... I just boot supergrub 1.3 off the thumb drive upon boot up?
[05:40] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, you will need to change the bios to boot from the thumb, unless you know the per boot key orompt for the out of the bios boot from menu .
[05:41] <urlin2u> prompt
[05:42] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: OK.  So what is the easier way to do this - go from the live CD ... or go via thumb drive and change BIOS to boot from the thumb drive?
[05:42] <MalelDraconis> I'm still getting "Error while decoding stream #0.0" while converting .wma to .mp3 using ffmpeg..  Is there another program I could try?
[05:43] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, to change the bios you don't need eithier, usually the f1 key to get to the bios, or another.
[05:44] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: changing the BIOS setting as we speak.  you may need to direct me a little here too, though ...
[05:44] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: I'm in the BIOS now ...
[05:44] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, I would rather not have to search the web to fing the key prompt for the bot from menu outside of the bios, but you can.;)
[05:44] <urlin2u> find
[05:44] <MalelDraconis> Anyone know a program other than ffmpeg to convert .wma to .mp3?
[05:44] <glebihan> MalelDraconis, could you pastebin the complete output of the command ?
[05:44] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, mine is f12, if that helps.
[05:45] <MalelDraconis> glebihan, that would flood the room, lol..  it has the error message repeating several times
[05:45] <rww> !pastebin
[05:45] <glebihan> !paste | MalelDraconis
[05:46] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, do you see any indication of a usb boot on the drives section of the bios, you want to consider I have never seen your bios here.
[05:46] <MalelDraconis> it ran off the top of the terminal screen, I can't scroll to the top of it...
[05:46] <urlin2u> brb
[05:46] <MalelDraconis> I was thinking that I could just use a different program..
[05:47] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: I'm in the boot priority order menu right now.  I just moved all the USB options about the HDDO (i.e. hard drive).  Hopefully it'll work ...
[05:47] <MalelDraconis> I remember using something else for this, but don't remember the program
[05:47] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: I'm on an IBM thinkpad ...
[05:47] <SatanHimself> wsbl-uhpd651: Me too!
[05:47] <JakeR003> how to check if the installation of wine missing anything?
[05:47] <th0r> MalelDraconis: you might try sox
[05:48] <linuxrealm> bazhang: may i have the link for those irc quotes? id like to review them
[05:48] <glebihan> MalelDraconis, there's also mencoder
[05:48] <Loshki> MalelDraconis: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1041575 has an mencoder/lame example....
[05:48] <MalelDraconis> Thanks
[05:48] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: I am saving supergrub2 1.3 to my thumb drive on this Windows machine now ...
[05:49] <Jarred> How do I move a window to my other monitor in Ubuntu 11.04?
[05:49] <Jarred> The monitor is on and working and all
[05:49] <Jarred> (I can right click and the context menu shows)
[05:50] <rww> !bot | linuxrealm
[05:50] <Jarred> but simply dragging a window won't do the trick
[05:50] <alachiq> bazhang: FIRESTARTER: the device wlan0 is not ready
[05:50] <SpinachHead> On the live CD's when I install something from the software center it sits in memory and I have to reinstall it each time I boot into the live CD, correct?
[05:51] <rww> SpinachHead: yes
[05:51] <virtualdirt> <<<--- rings the bell for faint545 who just helped me fixed my problem!
[05:52] <Jarred> How do I move an open window from one monitor to the next in Unity?
[05:52] <linuxrealm> Jarred: honestly, and i havent used 11.x yet, but i hear its really kid friendly and doesnt have much to view, unless you work in the cmdline. im highly doubt i will switch from 10.04 LTS anytime soon. example, i advised a user to goto file menu, and they got upset that there wasn't anything i described to them there,,, as if it was just removed, things that are important. my suggestion, get off 11.x desktop if your new to linu
[05:52] <Jarred> I'm not
[05:52] <Jarred> I'm not at all
[05:53] <linuxrealm> no offense, really
[05:53] <Jarred> There's no intuitive way to do this
[05:53] <Jarred> Simply dragging it across the screen moves it to a separate workspace
[05:53] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: OK - the boot from the thumb drive for supergrup2 is not working.  It tells me "invalid system disk.  replace the disk, and then press any key".  We are going to have to go from the live CD ...
[05:53] <linuxrealm> but if your asking how to split screen or switch monitors, your right, its not intuitive in the sense the devs removed all the stuff you need, and you have to dig to find it now.
[05:54] <Blue1> wsbl-uhpd651: ru trying to make a bootable live cd on a usb drive?
[05:54] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, cool whatever works.
[05:54] <linuxrealm> 11.x is kid freindly, not admin/advanced user friendly desktop. thus, i mention the cmdline
[05:55] <Brandnew> Hi, i am currently running ubuntu 11.04 and have all the restricted drivers installed. However Banshee is not picking up all the songs off the ipod to play. Any ideas what could be cuasing this
[05:55] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: I am going to put save a copy of the first supergrub you referred me to - as well ... just so I have them both ..
[05:55] <Jarred> My question still has not been answered, how do I move a window between two monitors in Ubuntu 11.04 AMD64;
[05:55] <Jarred> I have the latest nVidia drivers
[05:56] <Jarred> (and yes, they're installed, the proprietary ones and not nouveau)
[05:56] <linuxrealm> Jarred: modify the xorg.conf by hand?
[05:56] <linuxrealm> restart X
[05:56] <Jarred> The xorg.conf is just fine
[05:56] <Jarred> My monitor is on
[05:56] <Jarred> It has the wallpaper
[05:56] <linuxrealm> thats nice
[05:56] <Jarred> and I can move my mouse in it
[05:56] <Jarred> The issue is that I can't move windows between it
[05:57] <linuxrealm> anyone can help? im not a 11.x user
[05:57] <linuxrealm> :)
[05:57] <ole_oz6oh> ubuntuweather in denmark   http://212.242.163.129:8080
[05:58] <linuxrealm> Jarred: i have a GeForce 9400M G, i can switch/move between screens :)
[05:58] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: booting into the live CD takes a while again, so just sit tight on the edge of your seat :)
[05:59] <alachiq> all:  FIRESTARTER: the device wlan0 is not ready
[05:59] <llutz_> Jarred: use nvidia-settings to get "twinview" running, nvidias version of xinerama
[05:59] <virtualdirt> does anyone know how to get rid of the 4 instances of Ubuntu Generic & recovery listings on my grub dual boot, (10.04 and windows 7 ) laptop.  I assume they come from failed boots?
[06:00] <urlin2u> virtualdirt, you can remove extra kernel set from synaptic, easier would be to install ubuntu tweak it has a app to do it.
[06:00] <linuxrealm> have you looked at ~/.nvidia-settings-rc
[06:01] <SatanHimself> rww: If you let me back, I'll be good.
[06:01] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: since I have supergrub2 on the thumb drive now - once I am in Ubuntu on the live CD - I can just copy/run it from there ...
[06:01] <rww> SatanHimself: 1) #ubuntu is not for ban resolution, that's what #ubuntu-offtopic is for, 2) no
[06:01] <rww> erm.
[06:01] <rww> #ubuntu-ops is for **
[06:01] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, it has to be booted to find the OS.
[06:01] <SatanHimself> k
[06:02] <SatanHimself> rww: I see.
[06:02] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: OK.  Right.  So just boot it from either the thumb drive or once it is copied and pasted to the desktop or something in Ubuntu on the live CD .... ?
[06:02] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, SG is booted it loks for the OS you choose it and hopefully boot to the OS installed.
[06:03] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, you have to boot it thats all, like you would boot a cd
[06:03] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: right.  I was referred to where SG is booted from :)  that's all :)
[06:03] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: referring to, I mean ...
[06:03] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, strtup like anything booted
[06:04] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: I just hit "Try Ubuntu", so it's thinking about it again ...
[06:05] <Brandnew> Hi, i am currently running ubuntu 11.04 and have all the restricted drivers installed. However Banshee is not picking up all the songs off the ipod to play. Any ideas what could be causing this? Also its a Ipod Touch 2G.
[06:06] <Jarred> Why is it that I can hear feedback from my computer when I have headphones on? This feedback is static noise that happens when I move around a window fast or watch a YouTube video (but it's relatively quiet)
[06:06] <Jarred> and that worked
[06:06] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, la la la I can't hear you. ;)
[06:06] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: it's hanging again, so ...
[06:06] <Blue1> Jarred: well obvious questons - have you tried it on another machine, and did you pay more then $15 for the headset?
[06:07] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, why don't you do the do cd burn on your windows setup of SG?
[06:07] <Jarred> Yes (and it doesn't happen), and I paid around $40 for it. It was on sale, it's usually $60
[06:07] <Jarred> It's the Creative Fata1ty MKII headphone
[06:08] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, unless you have 2 cd burners, you will not be able to burn a second from the broken one.
[06:08] <Blue1> okay let me look those up
[06:09] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: All right, I'll try that ...
[06:10] <Blue1> okay those are mini jacks -- it might be the jacks inside your machine are dirty - try SOFTLY clean with the eraser from a lead pencil
[06:10] <MalelDraconis> I'm back, as an update, I'm trying to convert .wma to .mp3..  These are original tracks that I recorded using my windows machine, but apparently, the software my friend used to publish the tracks put DRM on them..  Any way around this?
[06:11] <Blue1> MalelDraconis: good luck with that
[06:11] <MalelDraconis> Blue1, Thanks...
[06:11] <Blackoakx22> How do I reinstall grub after I created a partion and installed windows 7 on it?
[06:11] <Jarred> Blue1,  Oh, interesting I didn't know that coudl cause problems. I'll stick a cuetip in there
[06:11] <Blackoakx22> !grub
[06:11] <Jarred> It's in my front jack
[06:11] <Jarred> Would that cause more interference?
[06:11] <Blue1> Jarred: sometimes they get gummed up, and opening the machine, and gently cleaning the contacts can help.
[06:11] <MalelDraconis> Any helpful info?
[06:12] <glassresistor> so my wonderful day has hit a lurch, i did something i never thought id do, baught a mac
[06:12] <linuxrealm> Brandnew: Rhythmbox and gtkpod are currently able to fully read and write the iPod  databases. However, though the iPad uses a very similar database, and  is claimed to be supported by these applications (you can choose the  xC497 model in the database setup), there are some problems stopping the  writing to the library.
[06:12] <glassresistor> a macbook air 4 11.6 inches with the 128ssd
[06:12] <MalelDraconis> glassresistor, Why?
[06:12] <TheMacGeek> Jarred, sometimes the front audio jacks on inexpensive PC's have hiss and interference, while the rear jacks don't . It's because of the cheap improperly shielded audio cables going by the cpu.
[06:13] <glassresistor> because its the only laptop like it
[06:13] <Blue1> MalelDraconis: fwiw - I have never sucessfully dealt with drm coded files - but as they say YMMV
[06:13] <MalelDraconis> Blue1,
[06:13] <MalelDraconis> sorry
[06:13] <MalelDraconis> Blue1, YMMV?
[06:13] <glassresistor> MalelDraconis: i just wanted it thin etc.
[06:13] <Blue1> MalelDraconis: your mileage may vary....
[06:13] <Brandnew> linuxrealm: ty
[06:14] <MalelDraconis> glassresistor, while overpriced, they are good machines..  So not exactly a bad investment, really
[06:14] <Blue1> MalelDraconis: iow just because I wasn't sucessful, doesn;t mean that you won;t be -- you have to try it -
[06:14] <MalelDraconis> Blue1, lol, thanks
[06:14] <glassresistor> but 11.04 server and desktop amd64 give prefix error, on flash/cd load to the non slash menu
[06:14] <glassresistor> then if i pick install or try first it blanks
[06:15] <MalelDraconis> Blue1, I just really hope I don't have to re-record...
[06:15] <Blue1> MalelDraconis: good luck
[06:15] <linuxrealm> Brandnew: hope that helps :)
[06:15] <Blackoakx22> Can you sudo apt-get install from a live CD?
[06:15] <MalelDraconis> Blue1, Thanks
[06:16] <dw-> ubuntu loggedm eo ut unexpectedly wtf
[06:16] <glassresistor> if i hit e and change the grub boot file to nomodeset from quite splash and hit f10 to run it doesn't help
[06:16] <Jarred> Blue1, I also have a receiver I use for my speaker system. It has a headphone jack, if I were to use that, would that fix this interference?
[06:16] <MalelDraconis> Anyone else know how to deal with DRM encoding?
[06:16] <Blue1> Jarred: it's why I bought a usb headset
[06:16] <glassresistor> i can't find much solid data on why the screen blanks
[06:16] <glassresistor> the old versions don't have the prefix error and adding nomodeset worked
[06:16] <Blue1> Blackoakx22: yes
[06:17] <Blackoakx22> Thank you blue
[06:17] <glassresistor> running linux for years but this is my first mac, plez help
[06:17] <Blue1> sorry no macs here
[06:17] <Brandnew> linuxrealm: well again... only piking up 123 of the songs on the ipod
[06:18] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: I'm in the process of the burning the CD ...
[06:18] <SatanHimself> f
[06:18] <glebihan> MalelDraconis, are you able to play those filels ?
[06:18] <glebihan> *files*
[06:19] <linuxrealm> Brandnew: again?
[06:19] <Brandnew> linuxrealm: yea.. again lol
[06:19] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, yay.;)
[06:19] <linuxrealm> Brandnew: your using banshee?
[06:20] <linuxrealm> i dont use banshee, i use rhthmbox or gtkpod for ipoding ;)
[06:20] <Brandnew> linuxrealm: was.. installed rhythmbox and tried that.. didnt work
[06:21] <virtualdirt> I'm sorry if someone answered my earlier grub question...was rebooting
[06:21] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: OK, I'm in supergrup2 1.97.2 on my broken computer ... what next ... select "Boot Ubuntu GNU/Linux" ???
[06:22] <linuxrealm> Brandnew: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Rhythmbox
[06:22] <linuxrealm> its all about playlists lol
[06:22] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: or "detect any OS" ???
[06:22] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, yeah choose options till you get in
[06:22] <glassresistor> page up doesn;t work tunneling to irrssi so i can;t read the history did anyone answer my queestion? pm me?
[06:23] <Jarred> My terminal settings mess with Vim's color schemes
[06:23] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, sounds like it see it if not try detect any
[06:23] <Jarred> Is there any way to tell Vim to overload the terminal's color scheme
[06:23] <fr500> overload?
[06:23] <fr500> override?
[06:23] <Jarred> eys
[06:24] <Jarred> *yes
[06:24] <fr500> I don't think so
[06:24] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: yeah - the first option did not work - it got hung up on the fstab error.  I am trying "detect any ..." now ...
[06:24] <glassresistor> has anyone successfully run on a brand new mac air 4 thats 11inches?  11.04 or any other, i can't get past grub
[06:24] <linuxrealm> i believe there is... prolly set cmd
[06:24] <andresmh> how can I update Prism to use the latest version of the Gecko renderer (i.e. FF7)?
[06:25] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: "detect any" did not work - got hung up on the fstab error again ...
[06:26] <Trex> If a computer supports up to10Mbps ethernet and supports wireless G, what is the computer's max internet speed? (in theory)
[06:26] <IdleOne> Trex: not related to Ubuntu. try ##networking
[06:26] <fr500> Trex: internet speed is not likely bottlenecked by your nic speed
[06:27] <glassresistor> after grub i get a blank screen, how would i switch the server grub config to nomodeset?  i just added it after quite before the --
[06:27] <fr500> Trex: but by your service contract
[06:27] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: what do I try next - perhaps "detect any GRUB2 installation (even if mbr is overwritten)" ???
[06:27] <glassresistor> and hit f10 becauase cntl+x doesn't work
[06:27] <fr500> Trex: if you have 10mbps ethernet then 10mbos is your limit, not likely you'r wifi will get even close to 54mbps
[06:27] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, all  can really say here, is that the live cd and getting the correct fstab, not the cd's opened with read and write access is your best answer. you might just consider pulling out whay=t you need and reinstalling or installing another linux next to it and getting there that way.
[06:28] <glassresistor> any ideas or did i just waste 12hundred$
[06:28] <glassresistor> or a better channel to look?
[06:28] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: perhaps when I boot up, if I run a the previous version of linux ... maybe that will work.  It gives me that option upon startup ...
[06:28] <fr500> glassresistor: what was ou issue?
[06:28] <Trex> fr500: Is the wireless limited to that 10mbps as well or no?
[06:29] <fr500> Trex: wireless g states 54mbps theoretical limit but in practice getting over 10mbps throghput is uncommon
[06:29] <glassresistor> trying to install 11.04 on the new mac air with 128ssd and 11inch screen
[06:29] <urlin2u> glassresistor, hit e at the grubmenu insert nomodeset nplace of splash pr no splash het crtl-x to boot
[06:29] <fr500> Trex: not limited by spec but limited by actual performance
[06:30] <glassresistor> i've tried flash and cd and desk/server both 64bit, but it gives a prefix error
[06:30] <glassresistor> urlin2u: i've done that exactly
[06:31] <glassresistor> crtl-x doesn;t work so i use f10 but its the same otherwise
[06:31] <fourtimes> hi, can I use netstat to see, if packets are constantly arriving from a multicast source?
[06:31] <urlin2u> glassresistor, there is a low graphic option in the recovery 4th or 5th line I forget the name.
[06:31] <urlin2u> glassresistor, what OS is t.
[06:32] <urlin2u> it
[06:32] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: I'll try the Ubuntu 9.10 live CD ... and see if this works :)
[06:32] <pravinkenator> Hello, I need to perform some benchmarking in my machine which runs ubuntu 10.10, I'm running the system in runlevel 3 (init 3) ... I want to know if there are any unnecessary programs or daemons currently running which I can disable
[06:32] <glassresistor> its osx lion current i want 11.04 ubuntu
[06:32] <glassresistor> i have the 64bit server on usb flash
[06:32] <fr500> glassresistor: weird
[06:32] <fr500> it should work
[06:33] <urlin2u> glassresistor, are you trying to boot  ubuntu cd or a installed system.
[06:33] <pravinkenator> can some one help me on this
[06:33] <thedustyone> is this the best way to install ATI proprietary drivers?
[06:33] <thedustyone> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:33] <thedustyone> isn't there just an easy way to do in software center or somthing now?
[06:33] <acerz> does anyone know how to get the bluetooh/wifi combo working on ubuntu?
[06:33] <glassresistor> its gives a prefix error pre grub and when i select the b/w intall option it blacks out and if i the 2nd to last line from quite to nomodeset and nothing changes
[06:34] <glassresistor> crtl+x doesn't worok i have to use f10
[06:34] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: loading into Ubuntu 9.10 on the live CD right now ...
[06:34] <urlin2u> glassresistor, are you trying to boot  ubuntu cd or a installed system?
[06:34] <glassresistor> ubuntun 64 bit server cd
[06:34] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, I wont be able to help there.
[06:34] <Metaxa> Hello folks, I have a problem with xrandr reporting my laptop screen as 0mmx0mm. I tried command xrandr --output LVDS -- fbmm 310x220, the screen blinked but my main monitor still not on and xrandr still reporting 0mmx0mm for physical size. Any help?
[06:34] <glassresistor> on the newest air
[06:35] <glassresistor> 128gig ssd
[06:35] <urlin2u> glassresistor, are you trying to boot  ubuntu cd or a installed system?
[06:35] <glassresistor> boot the cd
[06:35] <thedustyone> theres ATI binary xorg driver but it only has 1 1/2 stars???
[06:35] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: OK.  So is our only option now to edit the fstab manually via command line?
[06:36] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: seems like we've tried everything else ...
[06:36] <urlin2u> glassresistor, finally when you power on tap the shift key, when hyou get the try ubuntu gui hit f6 tick nomodeset, then boot in.
[06:37] <urlin2u> wsbl-uhpd651, your only option that is, I can't really go beyond what we have done
[06:37] <glassresistor> i get a prefix error on grub loading which kills the splash screen but i have the bw selection tool and hit e and change the text to nomodeset
[06:38] <urlin2u> glassresistor, to be honest you have left out information and reallyu make no sense for any real help.
[06:38] <wsbl-uhpd651> OK, so do you know what commands to enter to edit a file via command line ...
[06:38] <glassresistor> urlin2u: so on boot i've been holding down the options key and selecting the last boot option for my flash drive, then hitting e on the install option
[06:38] <glassresistor> is e the same as f6 or is there a difference
[06:38] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: we are so close.  OK, so do you know what commands to enter to edit a file via command line ...
[06:38] <wsbl-uhpd651> urlin2u: ???
[06:38] <wsbl-uhpd651> does anyone know how to edit fstab via command line?
[06:39] <glassresistor> wsbl-uhpd651: vi?
[06:39] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[06:39] <Fuchs> wsbl-uhpd651: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[06:39] <zabomber> hey guys... just can't get SVN with WEBDAV to work :(
[06:39] <Fuchs> wsbl-uhpd651: or any other editor like vim or emacs
[06:39] <zabomber> ive followed 4 tut's
[06:39] <zabomber> and i can view my svn repo remotely
[06:39] <zabomber> but i can't upload files to it...
[06:40] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: thanks.  I may have another question - so just hold tight ...
[06:40] <zabomber> i've checked the permissions on the svn repo for www-data and the subversion group...
[06:40] <glassresistor> urlin2u: im sorry im confused
[06:40] <zabomber> still now luck :(
[06:40] <zabomber> where do i begin to troubleshoot?
[06:40] <zabomber> !svn
[06:41] <glassresistor> urlin2u: i've followed these instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir3-2/Narwhal
[06:41] <glassresistor> but i never see the "purple" screen
[06:42] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: I am looking at the help in nano 2.2.6 right now - just trying to figure out how to insert text and then save via command line.  any quick hints?
[06:42] <ilea> will ubuntu work on a computer that haves a sis video card?
[06:43] <lunnainn> wow.. a bit more people in here than I expected
[06:43] <ilea> it will see the card or can be instaled?
[06:43] <fr500> ilea: yes most likely
[06:43] <Fuchs> wsbl-uhpd651: just write to enter text
[06:43] <Fuchs> wsbl-uhpd651: the hat means the contol key
[06:43] <glassresistor> because i get a "prefix is not being set error"
[06:44] <zabomber> hey guys. anyone got SVN and WEBDAV working?
[06:44] <zabomber> im looking to create a WEBDAV directory that i can mount from remote linux machines...
[06:44] <lunnainn> I'm curious about something with laptops... is it a bug, or is it "meant to be", that the laptop screen is pitch black, and you have to connect an exterior screen to see anything?
[06:44] <ilea> up in the right of my screen there was a sound icon and i accidentaly removed it how to put it back?
[06:46] <fr500> ilea: using the live cd?
[06:46] <ilea> no
[06:46] <Metaxa> lunnainn I am currently having that problem, I belive it is a problem with xrandr reporting the size of the physical screen incorrectly
[06:46] <fr500> well right click the panel and select add to panel
[06:46] <fr500> unless you're using unity, then idk
[06:47] <lunnainn> Metaxa: so it's a bug then, and hopefully wont be like that for a long time..? :)
[06:47] <ilea> yes but i dont have in the list the sound icon
[06:47] <paolo_> hello
[06:47] <Metaxa> lunnainn: I believe so. I'm trying to find a work around for it and asking people who may know more than I do about it
[06:48] <glassresistor> i don't know how i can be anymore clear im trying to install ubuntu natty with a usb flash drive on the macbook air 4.1 but the purple screen never comes up and even if i change the grub settings to nomodeset it doesn't work
[06:48] <Metaxa> lunnainn: try typing xrandr into your terminal and check how it reports LVDS size in "mm"
[06:48] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: OK, I'm figuring it out in nano ... thanks :)
[06:48] <glassresistor> can i change the grub settings on the flash drive itself>
[06:48] <lunnainn> ok, I've been staying at 10.10, cuz the screen-thing.. not going to change it unless the screen works :)
[06:48] <wsbl-uhpd651> Fuchs: thanks ... I'm figuring it out in nano ...
[06:50] <glassresistor> lunnainn: are you talking to me?
[06:50] <lunnainn> 1366x768, Metaxa
[06:50] <zabomber> anyone know where the subversion log resides?
[06:50] <glassresistor> can someone explain to me the missing prefix errors
[06:50] <lunnainn> glassresistor: , nah, I'm haveing difficulties myself with the screen
[06:51] <Metaxa> lunnainn: at the end of that line, what you are reporting is resolution read the end of that line it gives a physical description of the screen
[06:51] <Metaxa> lunnainn: in millimeters
[06:52] <lunnainn> "default connected 1366x768+0+0 0mm 0mm"
[06:52] <lunnainn> that's what I get
[06:52] <Flannel> zabomber: Can you commit to it via apache with the normal svn client?
[06:52] <SatanHimself> "Satan wants to install Ubuntu on friend's personal Macbook for pernicious purposes."
[06:52] <fr500> glassresistor: i read about that error
[06:52] <fr500> seems you erased your whole ubuntu installation
[06:52] <fr500> try to reinstall
[06:53] <Flannel> zabomber: Also, those errors would be in the apache errors, /var/log/apache2/ (probably error.log, if it's actually an error)
[06:53] <Metaxa> lunnainn: That ending part where it says 0mm x 0mm means that it reads your screen being physically that size, which relates into no screen to display stuff
[06:53] <lunnainn> that's...
[06:53] <lunnainn> awesome. I've got no screen, according to that?
[06:53] <lunnainn> simply awesome
[06:54] <Metaxa> lunnainn: you have a screen it is just 0x0 deminsions, I'm trying to find the command to change that
[06:54] <zabomber> Flannel: i'm not really interested in the SVN part.. more the webdav part, but ill use an SVN tool to see if i can checkout. Kudos for the log pointers
[06:55] <Metaxa> lunnainn: I tried changing it manually but it does not seem to stick. So I came on here to see if anyone else has an idea on what to do
[06:55] <Flannel> zabomber: checkout and commit.  Since it might be www-data having write issues
[06:55] <glassresistor> fr500: i haven;t installed im trying to install, its not even loading the installer
[06:56] <lunnainn> Metaxa: I know this is kinda egocentrical of me, but I hope you find out how to work it! :)
[06:56] <lunnainn> then you can post it somewhere so I can find, so I dont have to do the digging myself ;)
[06:56] <Flannel> zabomber: This would be through the http/https URL for svn, if I wasn't clear.
[06:56] <Metaxa> lunnainn: me too, I'm trying to get this laptop I found in the trash working so I can donate it to someone in need.
[06:57] <lunnainn> Metaxa: If I were you, I'd probably just put something else on there, like maverick
[06:57] <zabomber> Flannel: thanks mate. I'll attempt to check in and checkout using http://
[06:57] <glassresistor> i have the grub.cnf on my flash drive how should i change it to avoid the prefix error
[06:57] <wsbl-uhpd651> I just finished editing my fstab fiile in nano using terminal commands.  how do I save the file now using terminal commands ???
[06:57] <lunnainn> but that's just me :P
[06:57] <Metaxa> I like challenges
[06:57] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: ctrl- x and it will ask you if you wanna save
[06:57] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: ctrl-x
[06:57] <noahbanks> Howdy. My disk drive is acting up: won't open with button (no content inside to mount), opens with "eject," in terminal, but immediately closes again. Any help?
[06:58] <lunnainn> anyway, thanks for the help, Metaxa. bummer I couldn't be of any help myself
[06:58] <Lafiir> When I was installing Ubuntu with an encrypted home folder, it said something about saving a key or so at first boot, which I skipped. Now that I am more familiar with Ubuntu, I want to do whatever that was.
[06:58] <lunnainn> gonna go fix a new reinstall on this laptop anyway, so I'm off :)
[06:58] <Metaxa> No worries, take care
[06:58] <lunnainn> have fun!
[06:58] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: OK, then I hit yes ...
[06:59] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: then - what option do I choose ... append?
[06:59] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- ctrl+x
[06:59] <sudokill> then y
[06:59] <sudokill> then enter
[06:59] <noahbanks> My disk drive is acting up: won't open with button (no content inside to mount), opens with "eject," in terminal, but immediately closes again. Any help?
[06:59] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: appending what ? you edit in nano then save it and it will quit ? no?
[07:00] <wsbl-uhpd651> sudokill: then it gives me this "error writing /etc/fstab: read-only file system"
[07:00] <lunnainn> Lafiir: I think you mean to go to terminal and type ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase"
[07:00] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- was you root or normal user whene editimng?
[07:00] <sudokill> did you do sudo nano?
[07:00] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: after hitting ctrl-x, yes, then enter - it gives me this: "error writing /etc/fstab: read-only file system"
[07:01] <lunnainn> you get a number/letter combo to help unlocking your home if you mess up
[07:01] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: you are not mounting / as rw ~then
[07:01] <Lafiir> lunnainn: Found it.
[07:01] <wsbl-uhpd651> sudokill: I entered "sudo nano /etc/fstab" - so I should be able to save it without a problem ...
[07:01] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: what do you mean - what am I doing wrong?
[07:02] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: open a 2nd terminal, "sudo mount -o remount,rw /"
[07:02] <noahbanks> Help please! My disk drive is acting up: won't open with button (no content inside to mount), opens with "eject," in terminal, but immediately closes again. What should I do?
[07:02] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: i haven't followed what you been doing ~ i can't answer that.
[07:02] <sudokill> noahbanks- try rebooting
[07:02] <JakeR003> HELLO!!
[07:02] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat:  in line 10 - where the UUID is listed for the home directory ... at the part where it says "errors=remount-ro ..." ... instead of "-ro", I need to put "-rw" ???
[07:02] <JakeR003> hellpp meeee.
[07:02] <noahbanks> I have rebooted. Nothing changes
[07:03] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: NO
[07:03] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: open a 2nd terminal, "sudo mount -o remount,rw /"
[07:03] <noahbanks> sudokill: I've rebooted twice, and I still have the issue.
[07:03] <sudokill> :s i dont know
[07:03] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: I'm not booted into Ubuntu.  I am editing my fstab file pre-boot ... because that is what preventing me from fully booting ...
[07:04] <noahbanks> sudokill: thanks anyway
[07:04] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- are you in livecd?
[07:04] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: you have to mount / rw, however you'll do it. easiest would be using a live-cd
[07:05] <JakeR003> how to change the mouse wheel sensitivity ?
[07:05] <Metaxa> noahbanks: Does your drive have a hole that allows you to physically open it?
[07:06] <noahbanks> mextaxa: it doesn't, but I can open it through the terminal.
[07:06] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: I think I will try that command you gave me right here in terminal first ... then I can try this via my 9.10 live CD ...
[07:06] <noahbanks> metaxa: it doesn't, but I can open it through the terminal.
[07:06] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: if that first approach doesn't work ...
[07:07] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: even though I am running 11.04
[07:07] <JakeR003> anyone?
[07:07] <JakeR003> i need to go to sleep
[07:07] <JakeR003> how to change the mouse wheel sensitivity ?
[07:08] <wildbat> wsbl-uhpd651: that's not what i mean ~ you asked how to save in nano and i asnwer that and yet the error msg mean that you are current mounted / as read-only ~ that prevent you from saving. i haven't followed your case ( i am watching TV XD )
[07:08] <JakeR003> i want it to scroll faster
[07:08] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: what is the terminal command for restarting?
[07:08] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: reboot
[07:09] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: can you help me mount my home directory via the live CD for 9.10 - even though I was am currently running 11.04?
[07:10] <stephenthemartyr> hello i am getting error that says cannot open users xauthority file?
[07:10] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: are you actually using ext4? i'm not sure if 9.04 can handle that
[07:10] <stephenthemartyr> when i tried to open synaptic and bleahbit(root)
[07:10] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: whatever 11.04 uses, I guess ... which means ext4 then, right?
[07:11] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: likely
[07:11] <qin> stephenthemartyr: ls -la .X*
[07:11] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: just try it, boot live-cd, mount your /-filesystem
[07:12] <stephenthemartyr> i should run that in terminal?
[07:12] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: so booting off the live CD for 9.10 will work?  I am trying to get the previous home directory for 11.04 mounted again ...
[07:12] <X0RROM> can someone link me to ubuntu offtopic channel?
[07:12] <qin> stephenthemartyr: If you want to know permissions of ~/.Xauthority, yes.
[07:13] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: i said "try it" since i'm not sure about ext4-support on older versions
[07:13] <qin> X0RROM: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:13] <stephenthemartyr> do i put x*?or the authority part?
[07:13] <wildbat> llutz wsbl-uhpd651:ext4 supported since back in 9.04 as far as i remember.
[07:14] <X0RROM> thanx ;)
[07:14] <wsbl-uhpd651> does anyone else know if 9.10 supports ext4 - if I am using a live CD for it to remount my current 11.04 home directory?
[07:14] <wsbl-uhpd651> wildbat: thank you :)
[07:14] <Ubuntu> hey every 1
[07:14] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: OK, wildbat seems to think so.  So here it goes.  Currently booting into 9.10 ...
[07:14] <qin> stephenthemartyr: * is wildcard, ls -l .Xauthority
[07:14] <X0RROM> Ubuntu Himslef :0
[07:15] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: on the live CD for it ....
[07:15] <X0RROM> himself*
[07:15] <Ubuntu> ne 1 need some help or anything feel free to let me know ill be here
[07:15] <Metaxa> Hello folks, I have a problem with xrandr reporting my laptop screen as 0mmx0mm. I tried command xrandr --output LVDS -- fbmm 310x220, the screen blinked but my main monitor still not on and xrandr still reporting 0mmx0mm for physical size. Any help?
[07:15] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: so I just run the same command in terminal to remount, then ... once I am in?
[07:15] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: no
it says no such file or directory
[07:15] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: what partition holds your /-filesystem?
[07:15] <Ubuntu> private message me with your needs
[07:15] <ram0042> Ubuntu: what type of help can you do?
[07:16] <bazhang> !pm | Ubuntu
[07:16] <X0RROM> anyone know any good universal programmers?
[07:16] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: OK.  what do I do then?  The partition which contains 11.04, I guess ...
[07:16] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: what partition holds your /-filesystem? /dev/sdXY?
[07:16] <Ubuntu> i can help with various things
[07:16] <Ubuntu> just pm me
[07:16] <qin> stephenthemartyr: As normal user: ls -l ~/.Xauthority
[07:16] <Ubuntu> and we will work together
[07:16] <bazhang> Ubuntu, we prefer ubuntu support is NOT done via PM
[07:16] <wildbat> !ot | X0RROM
[07:17] <llutz_> Ubuntu: keep it here in the channel
[07:17] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: there is sda and sda1, right?  I think sda1 was is one of the USB drives (I have two ports) ...
[07:17] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: so maybe sda?
[07:17] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: sudo fdisk -l
[07:17] <subone> Can someone help me mount an external hard drive on boot that can be mounted/unmounted by any user, have all permissions for any user, and is ntfs?
[07:17] <X0RROM> anyone know a good electronics channel?
[07:17] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: OK, will do ... just a sec ... almost booted into 9.10
iit said no file or directory again
[07:17] <Ubuntu> subone
[07:18] <Ubuntu> do u have gparted
[07:18] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Well, apparently it is not needed
[07:18] <stephenthemartyr> what do you mean?
[07:18] <X0RROM> does anyone?
[07:18] <stephenthemartyr> it wiont let me open synaptic
[07:18] <stephenthemartyr> unless i do it as root in terminal
[07:18] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: OK.  sda1 is the Linux system, sda2 is the extended system, and sda5 is the Linux swap / Solaris ...
[07:18] <ram0042> X0RROM: what type of eletronics? like engineering or gadget reviews?
[07:19] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: so I think it's actually sda1
[07:19] <X0RROM> engineering...
[07:19] <X0RROM> like elctronic, reverse engineering
[07:19] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: you only have 1 linux-partition? then theres no old /home you could mount
[07:19] <bazhang> !alis | X0RROM
[07:19] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: yes, that is correct ...
[07:19] <qin> stephenthemartyr: hm? what about: gksudo synaptic ?
[07:19] <bazhang> X0RROM, take this to #freenode please
[07:19] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: and I do not have an old /home to mount ...
[07:20] <stephenthemartyr> whoa it said no space left on device
[07:20] <X0RROM> well i cannot find any good channels
[07:20] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: ... I am trying to get the previous home  directory for 11.04 mounted again
[07:20] <X0RROM> and i am looking for good reccomended ones?
[07:20] <llutz_> ^^ wsbl-uhpd651 that makes no sense
[07:20] <stephenthemartyr> i was deleting files in bleachbit but not anmything important
[07:20] <bazhang> X0RROM, #freenode please
[07:21] <lonix> what is your favorite mp3 player (cli)
[07:21] <wildbat> lonix: mplayer
[07:22] <stephenthemartyr> even though disk analyzer says i have 1.5gb's left it says i have none so i
[07:22] <qin> stephenthemartyr: df -h (to see free space), bleachbit have not that awesome reputation
[07:22] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: Why do you need to edit /etc/fstab, what' s your final goal?
[07:22] <qin> lonix: mocp
[07:22] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: it doesn't give me any kickback after running that command.  it should though, right?
[07:23] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: what command? please answer my question
[07:23] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: the remount gave you just gave me ...
[07:23] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: :)
[07:23] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: nonsense
http://paste.ubuntu.com/662416/
[07:23] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: Why do you need to edit /etc/fstab, what' s your final goal?
[07:24] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: I need to edit to in order to get Linux to recognize the original home directory from 11.04 upon boot up - which it is currently not doing and causing the problem ...
[07:25] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: you donÄt have any /home partition to mount
[07:25] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: theres nothing to do in /etc/fstab for you
[07:25] <ram0042> X0RROM: ##re
[07:26] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Yes there is no space. sudo du -sh /* and watch /tmp and /var
[07:26] <X0RROM> cheers ;)
[07:26] <qin> stephenthemartyr: du will take a bit of time
[07:27] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: what happened was - I was having trouble mounting a flash drive and accessing it.  So one of the gentlemen on her told me to edit fstab by removed a line or two (probably 9 or 10).  So I did this - and then I had this problem of a mounting error preventing me from booting up ...
[07:27] <stephenthemartyr> ok does the* mean somin?
[07:27] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: I need my fstab back as close to what it originally was - so my computer will properly boot up ....
[07:28] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: and why do you always refer to a non-existing old home?  use "sudo blkid" to get the UUIDs of your / and the swap,
[07:28] <qin> stephenthemartyr: the* ?
[07:28] <qin> stephenthemartyr: yes
[07:28] <qin> stephenthemartyr: sudo du -sh /*
[07:28] <stephenthemartyr> sudo du -sh /*?
[07:29] <subone> Can someone help me with a mounting issue? I'm munting an NTFS external drive with umask=777 and user options, but Nautilus reports that the folder contents could not be displayed because i do not have permission.
[07:29] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: "sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt"  where /dev/sdXY is your /-fileystem you got from "fdisk -l"
[07:29] <stephenthemartyr> so its not shorthand for somin i actually put * in command?
[07:29] <stephenthemartyr> sorry
[07:29] <llutz_> subone: umask=000   if you want permission 777
[07:30] <Nicd-> hey, is there any tool for ubuntu that would allow me to index and search for words inside .doc files?
[07:30] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Yup, * means "almost anything"
[07:30] <subone> oh
[07:30] <Nicd-> apparently beagle did it, but it's not easily available anymore
[07:30] <stephenthemartyr> ok
[07:31] <bhavesh> What is the IRC channel for non help related Ubuntu talks?
[07:31] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: I'm back in terminal and off the live CD.  I'll try that command ...
[07:31] <KM0201> !offtopic | bhavesh
[07:31] <WaltherFI> Nicd-: you could use cat * |grep wordsyouwanttofind
[07:31] <bhavesh> k ty
[07:31] <KatronixSerf> may not be the right channel to ask in, but Skype under ubuntu, is there any software I can install to go with it that allows people to easily play sounds and everyone on the call hears it?
[07:31] <Nicd-> WaltherFI: that will not work for .doc files as they are binary
[07:31] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: it wont work as you already should have seen. you do this from live-cd
[07:31] <Nicd-> WaltherFI: you cannot extract the text with "strings" either
[07:32] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: "extended" would by my home drive?
[07:32] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: or no?
[07:32] <subone> llutz, Hey thanks that solves one problem, lemme check if everything else is working
[07:32] <llutz_> wsbl-uhpd651: since you refuse to listen and answering questions, i stop wasting my time
[07:32] <WaltherFI> ahh, sorry, morningbrains
[07:33] <qin> Nicd-: There is few tools to convert doc, antiword for example
[07:34] <Nicd-> qin: how does antiword work? can I use it in a command in conjunction with grep, or would I have to first convert all the files?
[07:34] <SpinachHead> I got clam virus scanner to install with ubuntu software center but avast is not working that well... Are there any other virus scanners to scan windows partitions from the live cd that are recommended?
ok its done
[07:35] <qin> Nicd-: hm, do not do doc, but.. http://www.linux.com/archive/feed/52385
[07:35] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: when I run sudo fdisk -l ... sda2 is the one missing from the list outputted by "sudo blkid" ...
[07:35] <qin> stephenthemartyr: So, what directory takes most space?
[07:35] <wsbl-uhpd651> llutz_: so I need to mount sda2 via the live CD ...
[07:36] <Nicd-> qin: apparently I can use antiword with recoll. thanks for the help!
[07:36] <stephenthemartyr> its /var then usr
[07:37] <ram0042> someone metion my username, i think flash is not working right or something
[07:37] <KatronixSerf> anyone?
[07:37] <qin> stephenthemartyr: /usr contains your programs, so do not touch it, cd /var; du -sh * (and paste in paste.ubuntu.com)
[07:39] <Metaxa> Looking for some help with Xrandr. PM if possible. Thanks
[07:39] <ole_oz6oh> Hello ubuntupeople. I am looking for a good beginning with hello world but in graphic http://212.242.163.129:8080 here i am!
[07:40] <stephenthemartyr>  <qin>  not sure why this came out but http://paste.ubuntu.com/662425/
[07:40] <ole_oz6oh> can the good friend se me ?
[07:40] <wsbl-uhpd651> can anyone help me edit and save my fstab file in nano.  I just tried - and it told me it could not save because it is read-only file system.
[07:41] <GreenCloud> ole_oz6oh: hi there!
[07:41] <qin> stephenthemartyr: What is not whole output, do you have pastebinit ?
[07:41] <subone> llutz, Ok now I have "nls=iso8859-1,exec,users,_netdev,umask=000,user,owner" but i still cant execute binaries on the drive
[07:41] <wsbl-uhpd651> what command do I enter in to override this "read-only" status ... and successfully edit my fstab in nano via terminal commands?
[07:42] <ole_oz6oh> GreenCloud,  ok hello can you help?
[07:42] <stephenthemartyr> what?<qin>
all the stuff before that in terminal isnt there anymore
[07:42] <GreenCloud> wsbl-uhpd651: have you tried using vim...its better than nano... and either way you have to be sudo to edit your fstab file
[07:43] <wsbl-uhpd651> GreenCloud: I can get around this read-only nonsense by using vim?
[07:43] <llutz_> GreenCloud: no editor at all will allow him to write a file on a ro-filesystem
[07:43] <ole_oz6oh> GreenCloud,  can you work on skype?
[07:43] <GreenCloud> wsbl-uhpd651: absolutely... try sudo vim /etc/fstab
[07:44] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Ok, in /var: du -sh > ~/dustuff && gedit ~/dustuff
[07:44] <ole_oz6oh> GreenCloud,  my skypename olebole1252
[07:44] <llutz_> subone: no idea, i don't deal with ntfs
[07:44] <wsbl-uhpd651> GreenCloud: command not found ...
[07:44] <ram0042> wsbl-uhpd651: try nano if you can't figure out vim
[07:45] <qin> stephenthemartyr: In terminal you can scroll, shift-PgUp, shift-PgDown
[07:45] <GreenCloud> llutz_: ro-filesystem! oooopz ;)
[07:45] <wsbl-uhpd651> ram0042: just tried nano ... and I can't get around this read-only element ... or at least I don't know what command to enter initially to bypass this ...
[07:45] <ram0042> wsbl-uhpd651: sudo su root
[07:46] <gry> wsbl-uhpd651: sudo vim /etc/fstab
[07:46] <gry> wsbl-uhpd651: sudo nano /etc/fstab
[07:46] <sudokill> he was asking how to exit nano... i doube he can use vim
[07:46] <gry> ^X
[07:46] <wsbl-uhpd651> ram0042: I was already root and tried it nano - initially ...
[07:47] <qin> ram0042: sudo -i, all others are silly.
[07:47] <llutz_> he works on a READ-ONLY filesystem because he refuses to use the live-cd! why do you think emacs/vim/whatever would help?
[07:47] <ram0042> wsbl-uhpd651: chroot
[07:47] <sudokill> omg
[07:48] <ole_oz6oh> all .  here i am                http://212.242.163.129:8080
[07:48] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- i think your editing fstab on the livecd, not your fstab
[07:48] <llutz_> ole_oz6oh: stop that link-spam pls
when i hit pgup or pgdown it doesnt go anywhere here is the output thats there http://paste.ubuntu.com/662428/
[07:49] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- have you tried going into file manager and editing fstab with a gui editor?
[07:49] <sudokill> to make sure you're on the right fstab
and it opened a blank gedit file
[07:50] <qin> stephenthemartyr: du -sh cache/
[07:50] <wsbl-uhpd651> sudokill: no - I'm not currently on my live CD.  That' won't work.  Because - you are right - I need to editing the fstab of my current installation.  But because my computer won't boot into 11.04 (because of a messed up fstab) ... I need to edit it via command line and then reboot ... and hopefully it will take ...
[07:50] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Yeah, gedit was wrong idea
[07:50] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- boot into livecd, mount the drive and edit it there you shouldnt get no ro errors
[07:50] <ram0042> wsbl-uhpd651: have you chrooted to your partition? mount it and chroot /dev/sda or wherever you mount
[07:51] <llutz_> ram0042: no need to chroot, mount - edit- done
[07:51] <subone> llutz, got that fixed. had to add exec to the end after user
[07:51] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Well, lets give you some space: sudo apt-get autoremove && suao apt-get autoclean
[07:51] <wsbl-uhpd651> ram0042: OK ... thank you.  Can you give me the full "chroot" command string I need to enter to do that?
[07:51] <qin> *sudo
[07:51] <stephenthemartyr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/662430/
[07:52] <ram0042> wsbl-uhpd651: give me the location of your mount?
[07:52] <ram0042> wsbl-uhpd651:point
[07:52] <llutz_> subone: really? i always thought the order of options doesn't matter...
[07:52] <wsbl-uhpd651> I need to mount /dev/sda1, I believe ...
[07:52] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- you dont need to chroot your only editing a file
[07:52] <wsbl-uhpd651> ram0042: I need to mount /dev/sda1, I believe ...
[07:52] <ram0042> wsbl-uhpd651: is that your drive with the fstab file?
[07:53] <wsbl-uhpd651> ram0042: yes.
[07:53] <ram0042> wsbl-uhpd651: alright "sudo chroot /dev/sda1" then you cd to /etc
[07:53] <qin> stephenthemartyr: In /var/: sudo du -sh * (just tell me what take place, apart of /lib)
[07:55] <wsbl-uhpd651> ram0042: when I enter "sudo chroot /dev/sda1
[07:55] <wsbl-uhpd651> ram0042: ... it tells me "not a directory" ...
[07:55] <iceroot> wsbl-uhpd651: /dev/sda1 is a device/partition not a directoy
[07:55] <llutz_> you cannot chroot into a block-device, you have to mount it before
[07:55] <WaltherFI> wsbl-uhpd651: you should mount the /dev/sda1 somewhere and then chroot there
[07:55] <iceroot> wsbl-uhpd651: first you have to mount /dev/sda1
[07:56] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Can you also paste: sudo du -sh /*
[07:56] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- chroot the mount point
[07:56] <sudokill> say sda1 is on /mnt/ubuntu
[07:56] <wsbl-uhpd651> ram0042: Ok - so that must be my USB drive ...
[07:56] <sudokill> chroot /mnt/ubuntu /bin/bash
[07:56] <ram0042> wsbl-uhpd651: right, listen to sudokill i forgot about sda1 being a device
[07:56] <linuxuz3r> hey
[07:57] <ram0042> wsbl-uhpd651: I thought you mounted it already?
[07:57] <jita> mysql_config file is not available in my system
[07:57] <jita> i have installed mysql-server 5.1
[07:57] <iceroot> jita: how you installed mysql?
[07:57] <jita> iceroot: apt-get
[07:57] <iceroot> jita: /etc/mysql/my.cnf does not exists?
[07:58] <jita> iceroot: it does
[07:58] <iceroot> jita: so what is the problem?
[07:58] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- you dont need to chroot though. just cd into the mount point and use nano on the file
[07:58] <wsbl-uhpd651> sudokill: I am currently root.  every time I try "chroot ..." it tells me I cannot change root directory to /dev/sda1 or /mnt/ubuntu: no such file or directory ...
[07:59] <jita> iceroot: mysql_config not found
[07:59] <jita> iceroot: the command
[07:59] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- its probably not mounted on /mnt/ubuntu
[07:59] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- run the command mount and see where /dev/sda1 is mounted
[07:59] <ram0042> wsbl-uhpd651: go use the disk utility and figure out the location
[07:59] <iceroot> jita: libmysqlclient15-dev: /usr/bin/mysql_config
http://paste.ubuntu.com/662436/
[08:00] <linuxuz3r> how do i configure the shortcut keys in gnome?
[08:00] <iceroot> jita: that is providing the file (tested on debian lenny)
[08:00] <stephenthemartyr> why does output in terminal keep dissapearing?
[08:00] <iceroot> jita: what should that command do? why not editing directly the conf-file?
[08:01] <wsbl-uhpd651> sudokill: it tells me "/dev/sda1 on / type ext4"
[08:02] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Maybe postfix, sudo du -sh /var/post*
[08:02] <ram0042> wsbl-uhpd651: thats bad
[08:02] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- what are you booted from?
[08:02] <sudokill> boot from a livecd
[08:02] <jita> iceroot: i am actually installing mysql-python using easy_install using virtualenv an it gives me this error that mysql_config not found
[08:03] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Not sure about your terminal issue.
[08:03] <wsbl-uhpd651> sudokill: I am not booted into Ubuntu because of this messed up fstab - which generates a mounting error upon boot up.  Can you direct me to fixing this error if I use a 9.10 live CD?
[08:03] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- if youre not booted into ubuntu what are you using for these commands?
[08:03] <auronandace> stephenthemartyr: output keeps disappearing? can you scroll up in the terminal?
[08:04] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- using a livecd is easy
[08:04] <stephenthemartyr> yes and its empty
am i doing that at my / or still /var?
[08:04] <wsbl-uhpd651> OK, so I'll attempt to boot into Ubuntu 9.10 via its live CD ... and then you can help me clear it up?
[08:04] <iceroot> jita: why not installing mysql-python from the repos?
[08:04] <sudokill> yes
[08:05] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- go into livecd and itll be easy
[08:05] <jita> iceroot: will do that now
[08:05] <qin> stephenthemartyr: My dear, there is 14Gb of /var/backup
[08:05] <ram0042> qin: LOL
ok what?
[08:06] <stephenthemartyr> im not computerly literate yet
[08:06] <stephenthemartyr> so dont run that last command?
[08:06] <auronandace> stephenthemartyr: whatever output you are trying to catch do this: command | less (eg. ps aux | less)
[08:06] <wsbl-uhpd651> sudokill: I thought I can't access this original fstab via the live CD of an older version?
[08:06] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- it doesnt matter at all its just a text file
[08:06] <qin> stephenthemartyr: /var/backup is your problem, cd /var/backup && ls
[08:06] <stephenthemartyr> &&ls?
[08:07] <stephenthemartyr> can i delete that?
[08:07] <qin> stephenthemartyr: No, && ls
[08:07] <stephenthemartyr> haha
[08:07] <sudokill> or ls /var/backup
[08:07] <wsbl-uhpd651> sudokill: OK, I'm booting into 9.10 via live CD ... and hopefully we can get this fstab edited finally without a problem - and have no more startup problems ...
[08:07] <sudokill> lol
[08:07] <archman> how to make ubuntu lucid to not load the wlan0 device on boot by default? i want to turn it on only when i need it..
[08:08] <stephenthemartyr> from /var or jus /??
[08:08] <IdleOne> stephenthemartyr: && ls = && after successful completion of previous command run next command (in this case being ls)
[08:08] <subone> llutz, looks like i've fixed all my issues mounting it in fstab under my uid rather than default root
[08:08] <WaltherFI> archman: you tell me how to make it load the wlan0 as for me it never works :P
[08:08] <archman> WaltherFI: Heh
[08:08] <linux_flowerr> can someone help me with this command? plz?
[08:09] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Command with absolute path, starting from /path/to/somewhere you can run from anywhere.
[08:09] <WaltherFI> linux_flowerr: sure
[08:09] <ram0042> linux_flowerr: what command?
[08:09] <archman> Also, how to make ubuntu not introduce a new keymap on every startup? it messes with my chosen keymap, switches between applications..
this command isnt working sudo du -sh /var/post*
[08:09] <wsbl-uhpd651> sudokill: OK, I'm in ... so just lead me in this step by step ...
[08:09] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Forgot this one, focus on /var/buckup
[08:09] <stephenthemartyr> sigh ok im sorry
[08:10] <stephenthemartyr> ok
[08:10] <linux_flowerr> I got a command from some1 to update the ubuntu and it asks for password but it doesnt get my pass
[08:10] <stephenthemartyr> so what should i do?
[08:10] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- copy this command. mkdir /mnt/ubuntu && mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/ubuntu && nano /mnt/ubuntu/etc/fstab
[08:10] <ram0042> linux_flowerr: you type it anyway
[08:10] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Cool, in /var/buckup you need to run du -sh * again
[08:11] <WaltherFI> linux_flowerr: in linux terminal, for security reasons it doesn't show any *** for the letters you type in
[08:11] <archman> also, is there an easy way to swap z and y letters?
how do i get into that /var/backup?
[08:11] <stephenthemartyr> sudo?
[08:11] <WaltherFI> archman: Xmodmap
[08:11] <archman> WaltherFI: tried it, but it won't load :S
[08:11] <qin> stephenthemartyr: no, just cd /var/buckup
[08:11] <k_sze> Back when Linux was still relying on udev to manage devices in the user space, there was the udevinfo command. What command do we use now (aren't we using relying on HAL or something) to perform similar tasks to udevinfo?
[08:11] <qin> *backup
[08:12] <WaltherFI> archman: create a file called .Xmodmap in your home, should load during boot
[08:12] <archman> WaltherFI: you know the line that should work?
[08:12] <WaltherFI> archman: notice the capital X
[08:12] <linux_flowerr> ram0042 wow i got like lots of updates!
it said permission denied
[08:12] <archman> WaltherFI: yup, already tried, will try again i guess; is it enough to have "keysym z = y" in it?
[08:12] <wsbl-uhpd651> sudokill: the file "/mnt/ubuntu" already exists ...
[08:13] <qin> stephenthemartyr: ok, ls -l /var/b*
[08:13] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- ok remove the mkdir /mnt/ubuntu bit then
[08:13] <somestrangerinan> any redditors in here??
[08:13] <ram0042> linux_flowerr: yea, its because youve probably never updated before
[08:13] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- wait
[08:13] <ram0042> somestrangerinan: over here
[08:13] <WaltherFI> archman: not valid. you should have something like keyvalues in it
[08:13] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- do this instead. /mnt/ubuntu might be used
[08:13] <somestrangerinan> i need upboats on an important topic, would you might helping out?
ok should i pastbin it?
[08:14] <IdleOne> !ot
[08:14] <somestrangerinan> upboat if you like
[08:14] <somestrangerinan> ram0042, if you don't mind
[08:14] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- copy this command. mkdir /mnt/temp && mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/temp && nano /mnt/temp/etc/fstab
[08:14] <wsbl-uhpd651> sudokill: take out "mkdir" too?
[08:14] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- just copy the above itll get you straight into fstab
[08:14] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Sure, or paste here revelant line.
[08:14] <linux_flowerr> sudo rm -c-r *
[08:15] <WaltherFI> linux_flowerr: hey, don't do that
[08:15] <IdleOne> !danger | linux_flowerr
[08:15] <ram0042> somestrangerinan: sure, i wont mind
[08:15] <somestrangerinan> ram0042: http://redd.it/jee5g
[08:15] <somestrangerinan> thanks dude
[08:15] <somestrangerinan> please pass it on, ram0042
[08:16] <wsbl-uhpd651> sudokill: OK, it worked this time.  I'm in fstab.
[08:16] <IdleOne> somestrangerinan: please take it to an off topic channel like #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:16] <sudokill> ok just edit and save then reboot
[08:16] <WaltherFI> I once ran the recursive remove in root folder for fun on an old install, was fun to have the cd and cat commands but no ls anymore
[08:16] <ram0042> somestrangerinan: wow, is this real?
[08:16] <somestrangerinan> thanks IdleOne
http://paste.ubuntu.com/662441/
[08:16] <Internetpc> hi....when I enter a command in terminal,it is saved in it and can be accessed later by pressing up arrow key..how to avoid this ?
[08:16] <wsbl-uhpd651> cool.  thanks!  just let me do that quickly ... and I'll let you know if it worked ...
im not sure what im looking for so i pastbin'ed it
[08:16] <politrix> lol there are bots in this channel case someone mentions a delete command? people mindlessly paste commands?
[08:17] <IdleOne> ram0042: Please feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to talk about reddit
[08:17] <jrib> Internetpc: disable bash history
[08:17] <ram0042> IdleOne: Okay
[08:17] <Internetpc> jrib : how ?
[08:17] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Not nice, sudo du -sh /var/backup/*
[08:18] <jrib> Internetpc: man bash, type "/history<enter>", then tap 'n' until you get to relevant options (Hint: HISTSIZE)
[08:18] <stephenthemartyr> not nice?
[08:18] <qin> stephenthemartyr: sudo ls -lm /var/b*
[08:19] <qin> stephenthemartyr: /var/backup is not standard directory of ubuntu, whatever created it, did it wrong.
[08:19] <jrib> Internetpc: actually reading the man page, maybe unsetting HISTFILE is more appropriate
[08:19] <stephenthemartyr> ok pastebin?
[08:19] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Sure
[08:20] <stephenthemartyr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/662442/
so should i get rid of it?
[08:20] <jrib> Internetpc: depends whether you want to actually do what you said or just prevent the history from being saved in a file I suppose
[08:21] <Guest40138> hello
[08:22] <Internetpc> jrib : I dont want anyone should be able to know which command I had executed in terminal..
[08:22] <sudokill> Internetpc- remove bach history you mean?
[08:22] <sudokill> bash*
[08:22] <llutz_> Internetpc: ~/.bash_history should have 700 permission, so nobody else would read it
[08:23] <jrib> Internetpc: who exactly do you mean by "anyone"?  Only an administrator or someone you give your login credentials to would be able to determine that
 : actuall I am on an office pc and many people use it...
[08:24] <MarcelT3> hi all. i created a vm with the vmbuilder on ubuntu server 11.04, i got a vm running but can´t login. i didn´t give any information for user accounts... how can i access the vm now =)
[08:24] <wsbl-uhpd651> sudokill: it didn't work.
[08:24] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- what, read only?
[08:24] <sudokill> can you save it?
[08:24] <AdvoWork> hi there, I need a bit of advice really, running ubuntu on a client, user is english but speaks/types English, French, Spanish. Im trying to make it so he can change keyboard or something so he can type french/spanish as well as english, but i cant find a way, he needs to be able to use accents etc
[08:24] <jrib> Internetpc: well is what llutz_ said not sufficient for you?
[08:24] <wsbl-uhpd651> sudokill: it saved just fine, but ...
[08:24] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- maybe you filled it out wrong?
[08:25] <xcynthi> wsbl-uhpd651: this is what your fstab should look like - http://paste.ubuntu.com/662424/
[08:25] <llutz_> Internetpc: office-pc as in "one account for all"?
[08:25] <Internetpc> llutz_ : yes
did you see the pastebin?
[08:25] <sudokill> Internetpc- cd into home dir and do echo > .bash_history && chattr +i .bash_history
[08:26] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Propably yes, do you know what program created it? ls -lt /var/backup && sudo lsof | grep /var/backup
[08:26] <jrib> sudokill: that's not really a great way to do that... it's better to just unset HISTFILE
[08:26] <sudokill> probably lol
[08:27] <llutz_> unset HISTFILE && HISTSIZE=0
[08:27] <wsbl-uhpd651> xcynthi: thanks.  I believe that's what I had, but ...
[08:27] <stephenthemartyr> it may have been me when i was testing out live cd's i made a backup and saved it but i didnt thoink it was that larege
[08:27] <wsbl-uhpd651> sudokill: I'm going back onto the live CD ... and see if we can't remedy the problem again ...
[08:28] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- if you're writing to fstab fine then your filling out wrong
said permission denied to that last command
[08:28] <sudokill> wsbl-uhpd651- good luck i have to go
[08:29] <wsbl-uhpd651> xcynthi: do you think you can help me any further?
[08:29] <whowantstolivefo> hi people, i use ubuntu 11.04 at office with 20 client, lasts couple days people tell me ` when computer goes screensaver, after for example 1 hour later, they come back and sit computer , password screen doesnt come ` and computer lock, and they must able to restart pc again. why this makes so ? what can i do for this ? thank you
[08:30] <IdleOne> whowantstolivefo: disable screen savers and that should solve the password prompt issue
[08:31] <whowantstolivefo> IdleOne: i will do this, but i want to know why this makes ?
[08:31] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Well, it looks like it is sbackup... yeah ls should be with sudo. My advice, remove that folder, uninstall backup software you use and make sure to copy your document and important stuff to dvd or something (ubuntu one?)
[08:32] <IdleOne> whowantstolivefo: I don't know why but I had that same issue and that is how I solved it. screen savers are not necessary for employees to work :)
so erase it?can i do it in terminal?
[08:32] <kural> How is it decided that X version of Ubuntu will be LTS ? Any info folks
[08:32] <stephenthemartyr> wats sbackup?
[08:32] <whowantstolivefo> IdleOne:  thank you for. i will disable screensavers in clients
[08:32] <xcynthi> wsbl-uhpd651: if your fstab looks like that pastebin then the problem is beyond me. Your blkid & fstab you posted http://paste.ubuntu.com/662350/
[08:33] <IdleOne> whowantstolivefo: welcome, I hope it works.
[08:33] <AndroUser> I want to run Ubuntu from the bootloader of my HTC EVO 4G. Where do I start?
uninstall software i use?
[08:33] <qin> stephenthemartyr: How did you backed up your stuff before?
[08:34] <gigenieks> Hi guys
[08:34] <stephenthemartyr> i put it on a cd then i saved it on this comp
[08:34] <gigenieks> How can I move in directory (in terminal) if directory has space (copy of Info)?
[08:34] <gigenieks> cd copy of Info doesn't work
[08:35] <Internetpc> jrib : This was rather more easier then your explaination.. : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1181492
[08:35] <llutz_> gigenieks: cd "copy of info"
[08:35] <jrib> Internetpc: ok
[08:35] <AndroUser> I've seen Ubuntu run via VNC/chroot from the SD card, does this mean it is possible to run the OS from the bootloader?
[08:36] <gigenieks> llutz_: thank you
[08:36] <AndroUser> is this the correct channel for these questions?
[08:36] <qin> stephenthemartyr: can you paste again: sudo ls -l /var/backup
[08:39] <IdleOne> AndroUser: is this what you need http://www.xda-developers.com/android/htc-desire-hd-booting-ubuntu-natively/ ?
[08:39] <stephenthemartyr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/662449/
[08:40] <IdleOne> AndroUser: if so that is not supported in this channel. Not sure which channel it would be.
[08:42] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Something is doing daily backups, so soon (in 8 days) you will run out of space again, for now: sudo rm -r /var/backup/*.inc
[08:42] <stephenthemartyr> oh shit it is gsmart?
[08:42] <stephenthemartyr> or fsck?
[08:43] <stephenthemartyr> i thought i had a broken cpu fan and i downloaded something that was taking rteportws of readings,
[08:43] <stephenthemartyr> its gotta be that
[08:43] <escapedcat> anybody here who installed ubuntu on a new macbook pro? a friend of mien is trying, but can't even get the live cd working
[08:43] <qin> stephenthemartyr: fsck do not do such things and you do not have to download it.
[08:44] <jrib> !mac | qin
[08:44] <stephenthemartyr> ok gsmart?
[08:44] <jrib> qin: checksum the cd
[08:44] <AndroUser> @IdleOne Thank you ill check it out.
[08:44] <qin> jrib: OK, but do not follow.
[08:44] <jrib> qin: what do you mean?
[08:45] <qin> jrib: You talk to me.
[08:45] <kakashi_> hi, I am getting this problem when I do svn up
[08:45] <kakashi_> svn: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libneon-gnutls.so.27)
[08:45] <kakashi_> svn: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libneon-gnutls.so.27)
[08:45] <jrib> qin: you don't understand what I mean by "checksum the cd"?
[08:45] <jrib> kakashi_: no idea why that is?
[08:45] <kakashi_> nope
[08:45] <qin> jrib: Yes, but why would I do that?
[08:46] <jrib> qin: because if there are errors on the cd, you don't want that...
[08:46] <kakashi_> I reinstalled libxml again
[08:46] <llutz_> jrib: wrong nick, wasn't qin asking
[08:46] <kakashi_> still the problem persists
or lmsensors?i thought i picked some option of recording data even when i wasnt on the comp. but i could be wrong
[08:46] <virtualdirt> anyone awake?
[08:46] <IdleOne> !anyone
[08:47] <etiainen> virtualdirt: nope
[08:47] <jrib> kakashi_: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy libxml2
[08:47] <qin> jrib: What cd?
[08:47] <IdleOne> !checksum
[08:48] <jrib> qin: the install cd
[08:48] <NameLess-js> hello, i just isntall ubuntu 11 and now i can't boot into windows
[08:48] <kakashi_> http://pastie.org/2349399
[08:48] <Skilz> Anyone know of software that supports Huawei mobile sim dongles to send SMS?
[08:48] <kakashi_> jrib: http://pastie.org/2349399
[08:48] <kakashi_> doesn't seem to be a problem
[08:48] <qin> jrib: Feel lost. Either I am missing something or I am comletly wrong person.
[08:49]  * jrib scrolls up
[08:49] <wsbl-uhpd651> xcynthi: OMG.   I fixed the fstab successfully and was able to boot into my current Ubuntu install without a problem.  After almost 5 hours ... ALLELUIA !!!
[08:49] <jrib> qin: wrong person :D
[08:49] <IdleOne> NameLess-js: run: sudo os-prober and see if it finds windows. it should add it to grub and you will be able to select it at boot
[08:49] <jrib> !mac | escapedcat
sooo?
[08:49] <jrib> escapedcat: checksum the cd
[08:49] <NameLess-js> IdleOne: k
[08:50] <NameLess-js> IdleOne: yes it does
[08:50] <wsbl-uhpd651> xcynthi: THANKS!  you clinched it for me.  good night !!!
[08:50] <escapedcat> jrib, he did that.
[08:50] <virtualdirt> hey I got a ton of entries on my grub boot  menu for linux installs I don't need?  I assume failed installs?  how do I get them out of grub and back to a basic memtest, windows7, unbuntu 10.04 menu?
[08:50] <IdleOne> NameLess-js: ok that is good
[08:50] <xcynthi> thats good to hear, have a good night
[08:50] <jrib> escapedcat: did you read the wiki?
[08:50] <kakashi_> jrib: should I reinstall subversion?
[08:50] <virtualdirt> failed installs = failed boots
[08:50] <NameLess-js> IdleOne: :D
[08:50] <escapedcat> jrib, he did that too, yes
[08:51] <jrib> escapedcat: what does the wiki say about his macbook pro?
[08:51] <IdleOne> virtualdirt: those are old kernels not failed installs
[08:51] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Sorry, jrib made me spin.
[08:51] <kakashi_> jrib: even that doesn't seem to work
thats ok
[08:51] <IdleOne> virtualdirt: you can uninstall them from Software Center or Synaptic
[08:51] <NameLess-js> IdleOne: what else could i do?
[08:52] <gigenieks> OK need some help I have red https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions  but I don't understand syntax of chown (how to change group of directory) I have direcotry /home/gigenieks/copy of Info and I did this "sudo chown -R gigenieks /home/gigenieks/Documents/"copy of Info" --> it changed owner of user, but how could I change now group ownership (now it is root) what would be exact command???
[08:52] <IdleOne> NameLess-js: you ran sudo os-prober and it found Windows?
[08:52] <NameLess-js> yep
[08:52] <jrib> gigenieks: chgrp or pass USER:GROUP to chown
[08:52] <IdleOne> NameLess-js: ok now reboot and when the grub screen appears hit the down arrow and select Windows.
[08:53] <NameLess-js> i did, windows said there was an error
[08:53] <qin> stephenthemartyr: also your /var/log seems to be oversized, check in htop what is running.
[08:53] <IdleOne> virtualdirt: Please ask your questions in the channel
[08:53] <GreenDance> hi does the system memory autoclean it's cache?
htop?
[08:53] <IdleOne> NameLess-js: if windows is giving you an error I suggest asking in ##windows
[08:53] <virtualdirt> ok I am always trying to be respectful.... just don't know the rules
[08:53] <NameLess-js> kk
[08:53] <gigenieks> jrib I dont understand "USER:GROUP" ---> need example of given situation
[08:53] <qin> stephenthemartyr: top, htop, ps, system monitors
[08:53] <gigenieks> then I would understand instantly
[08:54] <stephenthemartyr> ok how do i check them?
[08:54] <jrib> kakashi_: gigenieks if you want to change the user to USER and group to GROUP of a file, you would run: sudo chown USER:GROUP file
[08:54] <qin> gigenieks: ls -l ~
[08:54] <jrib> kakashi_: pastebin « sudo ldconfig -p | grep libxml »
[08:54] <qin> gigenieks: ---------- size user group time file
[08:55] <richtroye> gigenieks For GROUP you can use any of the groupnames in /etc/group.  for USER you can use any of the userids in /etc/passwd
[08:56] <HazLT> i have a problem: when connecting to the internet with wireless adapter (D-Link DWA-125) i connect to the internet with no problem, i can browse, but after 10-15 minutes connection lost. Even then i restart my pc, i can't connect anymore. The only solution is to restart a router. So i guess the problem is in router. P.S. there is no problem on Windows 7 and everything fine then i connect through ethernet connection. I have Ubuntu 11.04. Can someone
im sorry but how do i check that?
[08:56] <gigenieks> jrib: command would be "sudo chown -R gigenieks:gigenieks /home/gigenieks/Documents/"copy of Info""?
[08:56] <gigenieks> it would change user ownership: gigenieks and group ownership: gigenieks right?
[08:56] <qin> stephenthemartyr: hm, thinking... paste: ps aux
[08:57] <jrib> gigenieks: if that's a directory and you want to do that action for everything inside as well, sure
[08:57] <gigenieks> exactly will try :)
[08:57] <virtualdirt> so where in synaptic do I ditch the extra entries... the text file says....don't mess with me
http://paste.ubuntu.com/662467/
not sure where the rest of it went
[08:58] <farciarz84> hi, is there some possibility to remove unity from 11.10? or move it from left side to bottom?
[08:58] <kakashi_> jrib: http://pastie.org/2349431
[08:58] <jrib> !11.10 | farciarz84
[08:59] <qin> stephenthemartyr: sudo apt-get install pasetebinit && ps aux | pastebinit
[09:00] <HazLT> farciarz84: i think u have in mind ubuntu 11.04. U can do it by loging off and loging in as a Ubuntu Classic session
[09:00] <HazLT> i have a problem: when connecting to the internet with wireless adapter (D-Link DWA-125) i connect to the internet with no problem, i can browse, but after 10-15 minutes connection lost. Even then i restart my pc, i can't connect anymore. The only solution is to restart a router. So i guess the problem is in router. P.S. there is no problem on Windows 7 and everything fine then i connect through ethernet connection. I have Ubuntu 11.04. Can someone
[09:01] <jrib> kakashi_: hmm.  Do you have anything in /usr/local/lib/?  Have you tried simply reinstalling libxml2?
[09:01] <farciarz84> HazLT: no I have in mind 11.10 cause 11.04 doesn't support my sandy bridge machine with integrated intel sandy bridge GPU
[09:01] <An_Ony_Moose> I want to use tinyxml as a shared library, but the Makefile in its source distribution provides no option for this and there is no package for tinyxml (well, there is, but it's going to be with oneiric.) What should I do?
[09:02] <An_Ony_Moose> wait no, it seems there is a package. But this machine runs lucid >.<
[09:02] <An_Ony_Moose> never mind.
ok i did thosew
[09:03] <stephenthemartyr> *those
[09:03] <stephenthemartyr> what did i do?hahaha
[09:03] <escapedcat> jrib, thx for trying but my friend is not really cooperating right now. he said his macbook is to new, so it's not on the list. i'll try to get the exact version number and do a search by myself. thx anyway.
[09:03] <jrib> escapedcat: he might try oneiric to see if that works
[09:04] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Or, open synaptic, search for: back up, and see whatis installed, and remove it. did you get link from pastebinit? try: echo foo | pastebinit
[09:04] <escapedcat> jrib, i'll tell him, thx
[09:05] <kakashi_> jrib: I have perl/  python2.6/ site_ruby/ and xemacs/  in /ust/local/lib
uea i got different links now,what are they to?and why and what am i removing in synaptic?
[09:06] <kakashi_> yes  i have tried simply reinstalling libxml2 and it doesn't give me any positive results
[09:07] <maptz> Hi. I have an issue with a remote samba bdc to join it to pdc domain. I'm testing this configuration in test environment with 2 virtual machine (PDC and client XP) and 2 physical machine (BDC + XP client)).  When I try to join the domain I have a request sent by the bdc to the pdc but I think my answer never arrive. If someone has an idea..
there is a prog. called sbackups and two others when i searched backups
[09:08] <mickey> anyone know how to configure a bnc
[09:08] <qin> stephenthemartyr: links to your own posts, pastebinit make it easy to pipe commands to pastebin, is sbackup installed?
[09:08] <mickey> i am having trouble connecting to it
yea but im about to uninstyall it
[09:08] <jrib> kakashi_: apt-cache policy subversion; do you have anything in $LD_PRELOAD or $LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[09:08] <AdvoWork> hi there, I need a bit of advice really, running ubuntu on a client, user is english but speaks/types English, French, Spanish. Im trying to make it so he can change keyboard or something so he can type french/spanish as well as english, but i cant find a way, he needs to be able to use accents etc
[09:09] <jrib> AdvoWork: keyboard preferences let you set things like a dead key
[09:09] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Good, what about two others? also "man sbackup" may help you to stop it.
[09:09] <HazLT> i have a problem: when connecting to the internet with wireless adapter (D-Link DWA-125) i connect to the internet with no problem, i can browse, but after 10-15 minutes connection lost. Even then i restart my pc, i can't connect anymore. The only solution is to restart a router. So i guess the problem is in router. P.S. there is no problem on Windows 7 and everything fine then i connect through ethernet connection. I have Ubuntu 11.04. Can someone
[09:09] <SeeknDestroy> AdvoWork : For seldom-used extended characters... you can also add the "Character Palette" to the Panel
ryslog and tar
[09:10] <SeeknDestroy> HazLT.... you're trying to summarize it into one line and you're not making sense... it sounds like you're saying your internet works fine in W7 but on a wired connection (not wireless)... why you tossed the wired ethernet into the wifi problem mix makes no sense at all
[09:11] <qin> stephenthemartyr: tar is ok, rsyslog even more ok
[09:11] <kakashi_> jrib: nope, nothing wrong there, LD_PRELOAD and LD_LIBRARY_PATH is empty, the worst thing is I am getting a problem even with vim - http://pastie.org/2349470
[09:11] <kakashi_> it open the file however
[09:11] <simmouk87> How do I recursively zip/tar current directory please?
not finding a man sbackup
[09:11] <SeeknDestroy> HazLT.... Google for "Ubuntu DWA-125" and see if others out there have any problems with that specific model... sometimes a driver update helps... other times the opensource driver is unstable and they recommend to use ndiswrapper to "wrap" the windows version of the driver... do some research on google
[09:12] <qin> stephenthemartyr: man sbackups ?
[09:12] <HazLT> SeeknDestroy: ok, thanks
[09:12] <jrib> AdvoWork: in layout options set a compose key and/or 3rd level chooser
you said "also "man sbackup" may help you to stop it."
[09:12] <llutz_> simmouk87: tar czf /tmp/foo.tar.gz .
[09:13] <simmouk87> llutz: so /tmp/foo.tar.gz is the output file?
[09:13] <llutz_> simmouk87: yes
[09:14] <gigenieks> OK I am trying now to change owner and group owner of file (not directory) with command "sudo chown gigenieks:gigenieks /home/gigenieks/Documents/"youtube list!.docx" and it doesn't work it reports error ---> "bash: !.docx": event not found   huh??
[09:14] <qin> stephenthemartyr: man = manual, see: man man
[09:14] <SeeknDestroy> HazLT : Googling lead me to the link... which tells about up-to-date linux source code for that wifi driver.... http://www.ravall.com/2010/06/23/windows-7-ubuntu-newbie-experience/
[09:15] <HazLT> SeeknDestroy: oh man thanks a lot :)
[09:15] <llutz_> gigqescape the ! "youtube list\!.docx"
[09:15] <gigenieks> what?
ok so i uninstall it and will that erase those folders or
and i guess thatr was the problem huh?
[09:16] <qin> stephenthemartyr: No, it will rather not
[09:16] <almoxarife> I need help from a hdmi sound guru, I have googled myself into getting no where, nvidia gpu, any takers?
[09:16] <stephenthemartyr> what do u m,ean
[09:16] <llutz_> gigenieks: escape the !, make it like this  "youtube list\!.docx"
[09:17] <qin> stephenthemartyr: uninstall will leave all data in /var/backup
[09:17] <jrib> kakashi_: you did « sudo apt-get reinstall libxml2 » ?
ok so i trash it?
[09:17] <kakashi_> jrib: yes
[09:17] <simmouk87> thank you llutz
[09:17] <marlun> I've got a server at work running a mysql server and I would like to be able to access it from home. How would I ssh in to put up a port forward to let me do that? :)
[09:18] <qin> stephenthemartyr: sudo rm -r /var/backup/*.inc
[09:18] <qin> stephenthemartyr: http://www.linuxcertif.com/man/8/sbackup/174915/
[09:18] <jrib> !ssh | marlun
[09:19] <gigenieks> llutz: "chown: cannot access bla bla: No such file or directory"
thats in german and that last command didnt work
[09:19] <jrib> kakashi_: what's the output of: md5sum /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2
[09:19] <llutz_> marlun: ssh -L 3307:localhost:3306 user@mysqlhost
[09:20] <kakashi_> jrib: 0126a019d7e7220384b5fd140d13e0b3  /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2
[09:20] <llutz_> marlun: after that, you should be able to connect mysql via localhost:3307
[09:21] <simmouk87> llutz: I am recieving this error:
[09:21] <simmouk87> tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive
[09:21] <qin> stephenthemartyr: link is in english, at least important part, what do you mean did not work?
[09:21] <jrib> kakashi_: this is confusing as that's not the md5sum I get here (on lucid).  Can you run « sudo apt-get reinstall libxml2 » pastebin output, and md5sum afterwards again?
[09:21] <llutz_> simmouk87: so "current directory" is empty
[09:21] <qin> marlun: To forward port you need to have accessto router/firewall
it said rm: cannot remove `/var/backup/*.inc': No such file or directory
[09:21] <gigenieks> What now?
[09:22] <xublinux> md5sum is on coreutils package
[09:22] <simmouk87> llutz: it is not, confirmed with 'ls'
[09:22] <simmouk87> also, i thought i need to use -r
[09:22] <xublinux> try install or reinstall coreutils
[09:22] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Oh, so they are already gone, do: df -h to confirm it.
[09:22] <rocket16> Is there a way to disable PAM face authentication? I installed it and am not impressed. :(
[09:22] <kakashi_> jrib: http://dpaste.com/591103/ and 0126a019d7e7220384b5fd140d13e0b3  /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2
[09:23] <llutz_> simmouk87: -r?? you already have an archive to append to?
[09:23] <liutan> hi
[09:23] <llutz_> simmouk87: what was your exact command?
[09:24] <stephenthemartyr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/662490/  <qin>not sure how to use tht other paste thing
[09:24] <kakashi_> jrib: this actually suddenly cropped up
[09:25] <kakashi_> jrib: I have installed nothing in the past 3 weeks
[09:25]  * Nuit_ Good morning!
[09:25] <marlun> jrib, llutz_: thanks :)
[09:25] <jrib> kakashi_: use dpkg to install libxml2_2.7.6.dfsg-1ubuntu1.2_amd64.deb
[09:25] <qin> stephenthemartyr: sudo /etc/init.d/sba<TAB> Deas it autocomplete?
[09:26] <qin> *Does
[09:26] <Skilz> Anyone know of software to send recieve sms from a huawei usb sim dongle?
[09:26] <name> ...
[09:27] <Guest62981> 我还是第一次用啊！
[09:27] <kakashi_> jrib: 0126a019d7e7220384b5fd140d13e0b3
im very limited on my command knowledge as im sure you can tell so you probvably need to explain em
[09:28] <marlun> llutz_: What if I only have access to my workstation at work which in turn has access to the mysql host? I would like to somehow go through my workstation.
[09:28] <jrib> kakashi_: md5sum /var/cache/apt/archives/libxml2_2.7.6.dfsg-1ubuntu1.2_amd64.deb
[09:28] <qin> stephenthemartyr: <TAB> button above CapsLock, see..
[09:28] <qin> !tab
[09:28] <kakashi_> 1093bb894607519da549eadf0bcf7778
[09:29] <stephenthemartyr> yes i typed command then i hit tab?
[09:29] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Yes.
[09:29] <kakashi_> jrib: 1093bb894607519da549eadf0bcf7778
nothing happens,why?what is suposed to happen and should i uninstal the sbackup?was waiting
[09:30] <jrib> kakashi_: that's right... but if you extract the .so from that deb package you will see the md5sum is different... I'm pretty sure dpkg should be replacing your existing .so...
[09:31] <kakashi_> jrib: in that case, I will rm -fr .so from the existing stuff
[09:31] <llutz_> marlun: should be something like "ssh -L 3307:workstation:3306 user@mysqlhost"
[09:31] <jrib> kakashi_: mv instead of rm, you learn that the hard way :P
[09:31] <qin> stephenthemartyr: ok, sudo service sbackup stop; sudo rm -rv /var/backup/*.inc
[09:31] <kakashi_> jrib: :)
[09:31] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Paste please.
[09:34] <kakashi_> jrib: 0126a019d7e7220384b5fd140d13e0b3  /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2
[09:34] <jrib> kakashi_: ls -l /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2
[09:35] <kakashi_> jrib: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 2011-08-10 11:33 /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 -> libxml2.so.2.7.8
[09:35] <jrib> kakashi_: hmm, 2.7.8...?
[09:35] <kakashi_> yeah, apparently
[09:36] <jrib> kakashi_: dpkg -S /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2.7.8
[09:36] <kakashi_> jrib: uh! dpkg: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2.7.8 not found.
[09:36] <jrib> kakashi_: do you have libxml2.so.2.7.6?
sorry lost connection,it said unrecognized service
[09:37] <kakashi_> jrib: i have libxml2_2.7.6.dfsg-1ubuntu1.2_amd64.deb
[09:38] <jrib> kakashi_: I mean, do you have /usr/lib/libxml2.os.2.7.6
[09:38] <qin> stephenthemartyr: what about rm..?
[09:38] <kakashi_> jrib: yes
[09:38] <kakashi_> libxml2: /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2.7.6
[09:38] <jrib> kakashi_: did you compile libxml2 maybe?
[09:38] <kakashi_> jrib: I can't remember
[09:38] <maptz>  Hi. I have an issue with a remote samba bdc to join it to pdc domain. I'm testing this configuration in test environment with 2 virtual machine (PDC and client XP) and 2 physical machine (BDC + XP client)).  When I try to join the domain I have a request sent by the bdc to the pdc but I think my answer never arrive. If someone has an idea.
rm: cannot remove `/var/backup/*.inc': No such file or directory
[09:39] <jrib> kakashi_: check your history?
[09:40] <qin> stephenthemartyr: sudo rm -rv /var/backup/2011-08-02_08.04.19.345695.ubuntu.inc
[09:40] <NetKing> what am i meant to do at thsi screen http://i.imgur.com/s1iBs.png ?
[09:41] <stephenthemartyr> looks like it got rid of them
[09:41] <jrib> NetKing: enter your commit message?
[09:41] <evilkarl> quit
[09:41] <kakashi_> jrib: I can't find anything :(
[09:41] <kakashi_> jrib: but anyways, can I link 2.7.6 to .so
[09:41] <NetKing> jrib and then press what
[09:41] <jrib> kakashi_: I would find out how that file got there... but I suppose you can just do that, yes
how do i do that paste thing?
[09:42] <qin> stephenthemartyr: command | pastebinit
[09:42] <jrib> NetKing: if you do not like vim, you should use nano instead (you can hit ESCAPE:wq to save and quit this time though)
[09:43] <NetKing> i dont understand the "Escape:wp" part
[09:44] <pokk_> Hello, when you omit the -f parameter of the TAR command (i.e. tar -czvp /), TAR outputs the archive on stdout, what happens with stderr ?
[09:44] <jrib> NetKing: press the Escape button on your keyboard, then the ':' button, then the 'w' button, then the 'q' button, then the Enter key on your keyboard
[09:44] <qin> NetKing: Esp (key) then :w (write) :q (quit)
says im sending an ampty document
[09:44] <NetKing> oh okay :)
[09:44] <NetKing> thank you
[09:44] <ttl-> how do i set the size of a ramdisk in 10.04 server ?
[09:45] <jrib> NetKing: if you want to learn how to use vim, check out vimtutor.  If you would rather not bother, then use nano
[09:45] <NetKing> is nano easier?
[09:45] <qin> stephenthemartyr: | is pipe, try: echo foo | pastebinit
[09:45] <JakeR003> hello
[09:45] <jrib> NetKing: try and see which you prefer
[09:45] <ttl-> /dev/ram0 seems to bee 62M and i like to make it 150M
[09:46] <JakeR003> do you have time for me guys? or should i come back in another 6 hours ?
[09:46] <jrib> JakeR003: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[09:46] <SeeknDestroy> #ubuntu : The channel that never sleeps.
[09:46] <stephenthemartyr> ok link now what?
[09:46] <JakeR003> how do i disable the smooth animation in ubuntu? you know when you click on anything to bring a menu or switch between windows.. there is a delay
[09:47] <JakeR003> my luck with you guys
[09:47] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003.... that's part of compiz.... brb gotta get you the name of the app that lets you edit it...
[09:47] <qin> stephenthemartyr: You could give me link to see it.
anyways so where are we at on this?
[09:47] <Skilz> orbit: I remember some program I was using when I had Ubuntu installed awhile ago, it was in the Ubuntu repos, just can't remember the name of it :/
[09:48] <JakeR003> thanks. and how can i change the size of the font DPI? because everythign seems to be too big compared to windows
[09:48] <xust-> I have a very simple question: tuneup for Ubuntu or at least SOMETHING that could speed this box up a little. Vista ran better...
[09:48] <Skilz> Anyone know of software to send recieve sms from a huawei usb sim dongle?
[09:48] <JakeR003> i'm a new user to be gentle one me
[09:48] <NetKing> oh god what happen
[09:48] <JakeR003> so*
[09:48] <Skilz> GUI
[09:48] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Radical approach, make sure syanptic is closed, and: sudo apt-get remove --purge sbackup; sudo rm -r /var/backup
[09:48] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003... go to terminal... type --> sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[09:49] <ttl-> would kernel option ramdisk_size=160000 work?
[09:49] <llutz_> Skilz: check gammu-website if your device is supported
[09:49] <JakeR003> SeeknDestroy wow man.. that is so easy
[09:49] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003.... then go to System/Preferences/CompizConfig Settings Manager
[09:49] <JakeR003> very thankful for your help
[09:49] <JakeR003> i like ubuntu but i need to custimze it so i feel comfortable using it
[09:50] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003.... then find 'Effects' and then "Animations"
[09:50] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003.... you're wanting to adjust the "Open" animation.... change it to "None"...
http://pastebin.com/XhLvJMGh
[09:50] <qin> stephenthemartyr: foo
[09:50] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003.... hint... when editing those animations... you almost always only change the one on top (out of 3)...t he one that says (type = normal | unknown)
[09:51] <92AADTJAO> hi
[09:51] <Alexxio> can't logout from ubuntu natt
[09:51] <Alexxio> natty
[09:51] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003... and the Fonts... you change under System/Preferences/Appearance.... Fonts tab
[09:51] <Alexxio> ctrl + alt+ backspc does not work
[09:52] <Alexxio> how can i logout considering that i have not the tray bar?
[09:52] <JakeR003> cool that was too easy
[09:52] <JakeR003> really appericate your help
[09:53] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003.... if your system is older/etc... you may want to turn compiz effects off completely... that's under System/Preferences/Appearance.... Visual Effects tab... change to "None"
foo?seriously im confused,ran those commands the purge one did not work the apt remove removed it and the 3rd one had no output
[09:53] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Same trick you can do with many commands: ls, cat, head, ps, etc... try: ls -l ~ | grep Pu | pastebinit
[09:53] <qin> stephenthemartyr: df -h
[09:53] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003... basically, if you're wanting to turn off the basic smoothing/fade effect/animation... your system prolly has a slower cpu or an older graphics card.... you'd prolly be better off in that situation to turn the visual effects off completely via that visual effects/none setting
[09:53] <JakeR003> SeeknDestroy where are you from?
[09:54] <JakeR003> U.S?
[09:54] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003.... from Wisconsin.... living in Arizona for past 3 months... moved here for a job that didn't exist when I got here and barely surviving atm
[09:54] <JakeR003> i lost my job 7 yrs ago
[09:54] <JakeR003> i'm sick
[09:54] <JakeR003> but in this age live is easy
[09:54] <JakeR003> if you can live on your parents or with your brothers
[09:55] <JakeR003> the system perf appearance worked perfectly. thanks
[09:55] <JakeR003> now the animation
ok  http://pastebin.com/z5Q6F5es
[09:56] <qin> stephenthemartyr: what about df? Is there more space?
[09:58] <JakeR003> SeeknDestroy what happens when i delete the animation?
[09:58] <JakeR003> i have " new - edit - delete - up - down "
[09:58] <JakeR003> i want ti completly gone
[09:58] <JakeR003> delete won't break the GUI?
yes it looks like i have 14gb free now,i was wondering what happened cuz this comp has 80gb with a dual boot half-windowsxp and hald ubuntu studio and ive had this for like a month or so
[09:59] <JakeR003> the slowdown in animation effect give me that mental feeling that the PC is slow
[09:59] <stephenthemartyr> so im glaD you helped me cuz i had no idea
[09:59] <JakeR003> i turn OFF all effects in windows even win7
[10:00] <JakeR003> ok i found how to turn it completly off.. thanks
thank you so much
[10:01] <shomon> hi, does anyone know a way past the frozen login problem? It's ubuntu 10.10. I've got nomodeset on, I can sometimes get to a terminal, or use alt-sysreq buttons, and I just did a memory test too...
[10:01] <qin> stephenthemartyr: Linux can be tricky sometimes... always look for documentation online before installing stuff, this sbackup would work much better, if configured properly, to the next one ;)
[10:02] <qin> JakeR003: Do you know of metacity?
[10:03] <JakeR003> qin what about it?
[10:03] <qin> JakeR003: It is much lighter than compiz.
[10:04] <JakeR003> np i got everything done in compiz.. no need to for another program
[10:04] <JakeR003> now can you tell me to see which of the services start?
[10:05] <JakeR003> and how to turn them off? i think there is a GUI windows that show them
[10:05] <JakeR003> i forgot
[10:05] <KayAteChef> !sudo
[10:05] <OneUniqueGeek> How would I update PHPmyAdmin? I don't see the directory in /var/www.
[10:05] <OneUniqueGeek> I guess my real question is.. What is the PHPmyadmin directory?
[10:05] <gry> OneUniqueGeek: How did you install it?
[10:05] <OneUniqueGeek> Through apt-get.
[10:06] <gry> OneUniqueGeek: Update it via apt-get then.
[10:06] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003 : System/Preferences/Startup Applications
[10:06] <OneUniqueGeek> gry - The repo isn't updated.
[10:06] <shomon> my login screen freezes and I can't log in. Where can I find help on this issue? I've tried lots of things so far...
[10:06] <auronandace> !latest | OneUniqueGeek
[10:06] <gry> OneUniqueGeek: Instal a new debian package from their website, then, even if it's not in the repo.
[10:07] <JakeR003> yes that one. thanks again SeeknDestroy
[10:07] <JakeR003> so.. unticking the box will stop the service from loading?
[10:07] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003 : As I was saying earlier... if you found the need to turn off the basic Compiz animation on window open (Fade)... your system probably has a low-spec video card, and you'd benefit from turning compiz off completely (System/Preferences/Appearance-->Visual Effects-->None).... which reverts your window manager to the default Metacity that qin suggested
[10:08] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003 : Yes on the untick
[10:08] <OneUniqueGeek> Well, Where is the directory where all the PHPmyAdmin PHP files are?
[10:08] <JakeR003> SeeknDestroy yeah i turned off the animation and everythign seems faster than windows
[10:08] <gry> OneUniqueGeek: You don't need to use it manually.
[10:08] <llutz_> OneUniqueGeek: try /usr/share/phpmyadmin
[10:09] <JakeR003> SeeknDestroy what happen if i remove the service? without unticking the box..
[10:09] <OneUniqueGeek> llutz_ - It worked, Thank you.
[10:09] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003 : That's just one graphical effect that you don't need.... turning the visual effects off completely halts compiz from loading completely and will give you additional performance.... and you shouldn't completely remove the services... just uncheck the boxes... much harder to readd it if you need it at later date
[10:12] <JakeR003> amazing OS
[10:12] <JakeR003> each passing year it gets better and better
[10:13] <JakeR003> too bad windows is the main gaming platform
[10:13] <JakeR003> or els i won't touch it
[10:14] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003 : Quite a few games run under Wine, which now has some limited DirectX support.... there's also "PlayOnLinux".... you can check Wine's website for a list of all the games that work on it so far.... the main/only game I play is Unreal Tournament 2004 which runs better on Linux than on Windows.... so no Windows for me :)
[10:15] <JakeR003> you know i was looking for windows XP because it runs better on older hardware.. takes 512MB of RAM while vista/win7 need at least 4GB of RAM
[10:15] <JakeR003> i found that win XP pro still cost near 200USD
[10:15] <JakeR003> crazy for 10 yrs old OS
[10:15] <SeeknDestroy> nah you can get xp pro for $70 or cheaper if you hunt around
[10:16] <JakeR003> OEM license is for fixed hardware/computer
[10:16] <JakeR003> it's not transferable
[10:16] <JakeR003> once you use it it sticks for ever
[10:16] <JakeR003> you throw that piece of hardware in the junk you throw windows with it
[10:16] <SeeknDestroy> I just yank keys off of old dead computers (XP ones).... shhhh tho :)
[10:17] <NameLess-exe> hello, if i leave say 4gb free for a swap during the windows partiion, and create it when i install ubuntu, will it kill the other partitions?
[10:17] <JakeR003> why ubuntu takes 200MB of RAM and few kilobytes of swap file?
[10:18] <JakeR003> vista takes 4GB of RAM " cached " and near 900MB of pagefile
[10:18] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003 : cuz it's a much more efficient OS... all there is to it
[10:18] <JakeR003> that's at start up only.. later it takes more
[10:18] <cjs> NameLess-exe: You mean in the DOS partition table? The Ubuntu installer will not destroy partitions so long as you chose manual partitioning mode and don't ask for them to be deleted.
[10:19] <forkup> actually M$ intentionally uses more ram on win7, their thinking is unused ram is wasted :)
[10:19] <SeeknDestroy> NameLess-exe : Why would creating it later kill other partitions?  You were just in windows asking about all this... and you screwed things up once already... I think you really need to go to google and do some research about basic partition tables and bootloaders before you try again this time
[10:19] <Kartagis> why do I get this? patch -p0 < patch.in
[10:19] <Kartagis> patching file Makefile.in
[10:19] <Kartagis> Hunk #1 FAILED at 110.
[10:19] <Kartagis> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file Makefile.in.rej
[10:19] <Skilz> How do I add myself to the group dialout
[10:19] <JakeR003> SeeknDestroy linux doesnt require disk defragmentor?
[10:19] <Skilz> $ grep dialout /etc/group
[10:19] <Skilz> dialout:x:20:smsd
[10:19] <Kartagis> Skilz: sudo gpasswd `whoami` dialout
[10:19] <NameLess-exe> SeeknDestroy: i can't trust many reviews on google
[10:19] <SeeknDestroy> Skilz : Or --> sudo adduser YOURUSERNAME dialout
[10:20] <Kartagis> Skilz: sudo gpasswd -a `whoami` dialout, sorry
[10:20] <SeeknDestroy> never done the dialout add via 'gpasswd', new to me
[10:20] <dandare> Any one use pinguy os?
[10:20] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003 : Nope.... linux is da bomb.
[10:20] <paultrafalgar> join #ac100
[10:20] <Skilz> cool thanks
[10:21] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003 : Take away all the limitations windows forces on it via software titles, directx/etc for gaming... and linux would stomp the crap out of windows
[10:21] <KayAteChef> JakeR003: ext3 and ext4 are journaled file systems
[10:21] <JakeR003> SeeknDestroy i agree with you. i bought windows vista ultimate which at that time cost around 400USD for retail box
[10:21] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003 : Sorry to hear that!
[10:21] <JakeR003> 1.5 yrs later they dumped it for win7
[10:21] <Kartagis> patch -p0 < patch.in
[10:21] <Kartagis> patching file Makefile.in
[10:21] <Kartagis> Hunk #1 FAILED at 110.
[10:21] <Kartagis> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file Makefile.in.rej <--- why am I getting this?
[10:21] <KayAteChef> they pack the bits better each time files are accessed
[10:22] <JakeR003> and they gave me nothinjg in return
[10:22] <SeeknDestroy> Kartagis : Patch file is no good or osmething man... it's not enough information to answer your question... no idea what you're patching or what the patch contains.... there's an error when applying the patch... meaning hte patch is no good.... not much else to it man
[10:22] <JakeR003> if i have an application that requires wine to run. how can i make a direct shortcut in the controlpanel without right clicking on the icon and choose start in wine?
[10:23] <JakeR003> a shortcut in the panel > single click it starts in wine
[10:23] <JakeR003> how?
[10:23] <Kartagis> SeeknDestroy: http://techtots.blogspot.com/2010/01/openvpn-with-pammysql-usernamepassword.html
[10:23] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003 : http://jaypeeonline.net/tips-tricks/create-wine-application-shortcuts-ubuntu/
[10:23] <JakeR003> cool again this is amazing work guys
[10:23] <JakeR003> unbelievable
[10:24] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003, Create new Launcher (right click desktop).... command = wine “/home/username/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/yourprogram.exe”
[10:25] <Flokass> Anyone can help me change the KeePass-tray-icon on ubuntu 11.04?
[10:25] <JakeR003> so username is my account name?
[10:25] <KayAteChef> yes
[10:25] <t1m310rd> kinda new to irc and i was wondering about a good channel ffor programming stuff
[10:26] <SeeknDestroy> Kartagis : That link is from January 3rd, 2010.... 1.5 years old.... the patch file is no longer valid for the newer version of the software you're trying to patch
[10:26] <KayAteChef> ##C #Bash #perl #python
[10:26] <sim-value> t1m310rd, depends on the language
[10:26] <t1m310rd> thnx
[10:26] <Flokass> nobody?
[10:28] <SeeknDestroy> Kartagis : Nothing we can do here to help with that... as I just mentioned.... that article is 1.5 years old now... the patch is nolonger valid or working... you'll have to contact the site authors or find an alternative solution elsewhere
[10:28] <SeeknDestroy> Kartagis... the patch goes and compares the lines and then makes changes to them... it's spitting out an error because the lines it's trying to patch are not what are expected by the patch script
[10:33] <SeeknDestroy> JakeR003 : All out of questions?
[10:36] <asdaw> hello. can anyone tell me how to install gcc-3.3 instead of 4.x please?
[10:36] <Sidewinder1> !nickspam | jack--
[10:36] <Benkinooby> !spanisch
[10:36] <Benkinooby> !spanich
[10:36] <Benkinooby> !spanish
[10:36] <shomon> fail ;)
[10:37] <jack--> Sidewinder1, freenode...sigh
[10:37] <asdaw> shomon: where can i go for assistance
[10:37] <IdleOne> Sidewinder1: that wasn't nick spamming.
[10:37] <WaltherFI> Hello all. I've booted on the 11.04 livecd to fix the bootloader of my dad's desktop after grub fail. How to do it
[10:37] <Sidewinder1> jack--, :-)
[10:38] <shomon> asdaw, I don't know but you could just download it and compile it somewhere locally
[10:38] <WaltherFI> Just want to be sure, i've not done grub reinstalls since they updated to grub2
[10:38] <shomon> as in not as part of the system
[10:38] <IdleOne> !grub2 | WaltherFI
[10:38] <shomon> then you'd have 2 separate gccs, so most things can use the new one.
[10:39] <asdaw> yea shomon i considered that. i just that there was a quicker way to do it and simply set an alias like - alias g3="gcc-3.3"
[10:39] <asdaw> thought that*
[10:39] <shomon> what's it for?
[10:40] <asdaw> i need to use 3.3 as part of an assignment im doing. the lecturer is specific that it must be compiled using 3.3
[10:41] <shomon> aaah okay
[10:41] <shomon> yeah just install it in your home dir. compiling it and installing it probably *is* the lesson..
[10:42] <WaltherFI> IdleOne: Proceeded to the grub reinstall with boot-repair. There's no option Windows on the "Os to boot by default"
[10:42] <shomon> #linux would be a good channel for more of this. There must be a gcc specific channel somewhere too
[10:42] <asdaw> haha shomon i wish it was true :P
[10:42] <shomon> ah well, the first lesson :)
[10:42] <asdaw> shomon: thanks for the help. see you around! :)
[10:42] <shomon> bye asdaw
[10:42] <WaltherFI> IdleOne: i do know how to fix that in old grub, but haven't been messing 'round that either in the newer... So, is it possible to default to windows (again, my dad's computer)
[10:43] <SeeknDestroy> yes it's possible to default to windows
[10:43] <SeeknDestroy> and not that hard to do... i'd have to google it real quick
[10:43] <JakeR003> guys.. is there an auto level normalizer for the sound? auto loudness  equalizer ?
[10:43] <JakeR003> so the sound is not too high or too low
[10:44] <JakeR003> this way it won't hurt my hears when i use headphone
[10:44] <JakeR003> ears*
[10:44] <WaltherFI> SeeknDestroy: just wondering why the boot-repair app doesn't show it as an opition
[10:45] <SeeknDestroy> WaltherFI : http://vinfris.wordpress.com/2011/02/08/ubuntu-grub2-default-os-on-dual-boot/
[10:45] <WaltherFI> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[10:45] <WaltherFI> agh, accidental middle click
[10:45] <WaltherFI> SeeknDestroy: Thanks.
[10:45] <SeeknDestroy> WaltherFI... wher eit has "sudo vi /etc/default/grub"... just use --> "sudo gedit /etc/default/grub"   less painful
[10:46] <WaltherFI> SeeknDestroy: hah, sure. Or nano.
[10:46] <WaltherFI> or emacs ;)
[10:46] <SeeknDestroy> aye capn
[10:46] <IdleOne> use gksudo with gedit
[10:46] <SeeknDestroy> ya just edit the /etc/default/grub file... change the default entry #... then update-grub and it's done
[10:47] <SeeknDestroy> i'm sure there's some better directions somewhere out there... i just googled for "ubuntu grub2 change default os"
[10:47] <SeeknDestroy> phoenix in da hauz!  (/me is in phoenix)
[10:47] <WaltherFI> SeeknDestroy: There's no /boot/grub/grub.conf
[10:47] <WaltherFI> .cfg*
[10:48] <IdleOne> WaltherFI: /etc/default/grub
[10:48] <SeeknDestroy> here's some better instructions.... brb
[10:48] <SeeknDestroy> 1. cat /etc/group/group.cfg  ;  see the order of the wanted kernel. Starts from 0.
[10:48] <SeeknDestroy> 2. vi /etc/default/grub  ;  change GRUB_DEFAULT=0 value to wanted kernel
[10:48] <SeeknDestroy> 3. run update-grub to update
[10:48] <SeeknDestroy> 4. reboot and check with uname -r to see if correct kernel selected.
[10:48] <FloodBot1> SeeknDestroy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:48] <WaltherFI> SeeknDestroy: Now thaank you.
[10:49] <SeeknDestroy> glad i added those two ; and truncated those 2 lines or i'd a been a gonner!
[10:49] <WaltherFI> have to say, grub2 made a lot of things a bit too cmplicated
[10:49] <SeeknDestroy> hmmm that one fails for me on the /etc/group/group.cfg
[10:50] <auronandace> WaltherFI: in step 2 use nano, not vi (if you are unfamiliar with it)
[10:50] <SeeknDestroy> WaltherFI : http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/changing-the-default-boot-with-ubuntu-910-grub-2.html
[10:50] <WaltherFI> auronandace: sure, i do know my text editors :)
[10:50] <SeeknDestroy> WaltherFI : or --> http://www.danbishop.org/2011/05/26/make-windows-the-default-operating-system-in-grub2-even-after-ubuntu-updates/
[10:51] <92AADTJGF> hi
[10:51] <archman> what's the default lucid nautilus home icon and where can i find it? i want to use it for my desktop icon.
[10:51] <SeeknDestroy> only hard part is determining which number your windows os is in the list.... other than that.... fairly easy to just edit that one config file and then update-grub.... not too hard.... altho I agree the old grub1 was much easier to edit :)
[10:52] <92AADTJGF> my windows bootloader has some problem, and i can't no more get into windows. using the called multisystem ubuntu program, i created a usb bootable key that finds windows7 bootloader and make system run
[10:52] <snpresent> where are others language irc chat in #ubuntu
[10:52] <92AADTJGF> using grub-install --recheck and other commands, it doesnt solve
[10:52] <SeeknDestroy> archman.... try /usr/share/icons   or /user/share/icons/Humanity
[10:52] <auronandace> !irc | snpresent
[10:52] <IdleOne> snpresent: what language?
[10:52] <jnsl_> Am i right that banshee 2.0 (2.0.0) dosen't work with last.fm ?
[10:53] <92AADTJGF> can someone help me understand what can i do to recover win bootloader?
[10:53] <snpresent> like chinese
[10:53] <WaltherFI> SeeknDestroy: Yeah, i've been a linuxist for 'round 6 years so not a big deal at all, just unfamiliar with it. And, I do find it a bit sad that no matter of the 200M plan, there's no gui for boot menu editing for the "just users"
[10:53] <IdleOne> snpresent: #ubuntu-cn
[10:53] <SeeknDestroy> 92AADTJGF : Depends on your exact windows version... but basically you boot from the windows install disc and type the commands to restore it
[10:53] <92AADTJGF> win7
[10:53] <snpresent> thank you very much
[10:53] <IdleOne> 92AADTJGF: ask in ##windows
[10:53] <SeeknDestroy> 92AADTJGF : It can be done with the "ms-sys" command in linux too
[10:53] <archman> SeeknDestroy: Thank you!
[10:54] <92AADTJGF> i don't think i will find my win7 cd, is there a recover distro?
[10:54] <IdleOne> 92AADTJGF: Windows is not supported in #ubuntu. Please seek support in ##windows
[10:54] <SeeknDestroy> 92AADTJGF : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392  <-- using w7 disc
[10:54] <92AADTJGF> can't use win7 disk
[10:54] <WaltherFI> SeeknDestroy: btw, where's that grub.cfg to see the real name of the entry? Not in the /boot/grub/ where it should be
[10:54] <SeeknDestroy> 92AADTJGF : Look into the "ms-sys" command if you can still boot into linux
[10:55] <ikonia> SeeknDestroy: that package has been removed from the repos I believe
[10:55] <SeeknDestroy> Alexxio : http://ms-sys.sourceforge.net/
[10:55] <SeeknDestroy> usage --> ms-sys -7 /dev/sdX
[10:56] <IdleOne> SeeknDestroy: if you wish to help him with his windows issue join ##windows.
[10:56] <SeeknDestroy> dude i'm in windows, and we help with linux issues there
[10:56] <SeeknDestroy> and he needs to fix it via a linux solution
[10:56] <SeeknDestroy> go back to idling
[10:56] <IdleOne> SeeknDestroy: good, in here we help with Ubuntu only
[10:56] <ikonia> SeeknDestroy: easy there,
[10:56] <SeeknDestroy> They can't help him in #windows or ##windows without his disc dude
[10:56] <SeeknDestroy> he needs to do it via linux and ms-sys, which is an ubuntu issue
[10:56] <SeeknDestroy> get off your high horse
[10:57] <Alexxio> :) thanks seek&destroy
[10:57] <JakeR003> is there a way to change the mouse wheel sensitivity on gnome?
[10:57] <archman> is there a way to change the titlebar to be more compact, having the minimize, maximize and close buttons in line with the menu?
[10:58] <SeeknDestroy> pfft, you're a dick dude.... you know damn well they can't help him in #windows without his install disc.... he needs help with MS-SYS a LINUX command.... which is --> ms-sys -7 /dev/sdX.... dude what the hell you sit and idle and come out and falsely direct ppl elsewhere when they need help with linux commands.... go back to idling you f'n douche
[10:58] <ikonia> SeeknDestroy: tone it down - PLEASE
[10:58] <farhad2161> how can i get a list of all users in a group
[10:59] <jrib> SeeknDestroy: that attitude is not acceptable here.
[10:59] <SeeknDestroy> tell that op to get off his high horse.... he sits and idles and then falsely directs users elsewhere when they need help with a linux command
[10:59] <frey> Hello. Do you have any recommendations if I want to start Firefox in fullscreen mode on startup and have no notifications? I want it to show a webpage 24/7.
[10:59] <ikonia> SeeknDestroy: it's worth noting that package has been removed from the ubuntu repos, it maybe worth worth checking why before suggesting it (there may be no problems at all)
[10:59] <SeeknDestroy> fine, i'll leave and come back later when dude's not around... i don't deal well with assholes
[10:59] <mwaijandeg> is it possible to run win7 from ubuntu UE 2.3? any on with an idea? am new in this thing
[10:59] <ikonia> mwaijandeg: UE ?
[11:00] <dsa> has anyone setup freenode acoount in you IRC client empathy??? I m havin problem with it
[11:00] <JakeR003> is there a way to change the mouse wheel sensitivity on gnome?
[11:00] <snpresent> has anyone got the data i was published with ubuntu one use the account "snpresent" ,i lost the data i want them back!
[11:00] <spexi> How easy it is to move existing Ubuntu installation to another hard drive? I have tried Ubuntu now in empty hard drive having win7 in another hard drive. If I would like to get rid of win7 and use that hard drive, how easy is it to move this installation to other hard drive?
[11:01] <WaltherFI> Hm. Still trying to figure my grub2 around, there's no /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[11:01] <vuPg4> spexi
[11:01] <spexi> yeah
[11:01] <vuPg4> i used a FOSS cloning program to clone my ubuntu to a bigger drive
[11:01] <vuPg4> it worked with no problems at all
[11:01] <spexi> nice
[11:02] <spexi> so I guess I'll boot with live cd and then install foss?
[11:02] <vuPg4> yeah... originally i only had a 30GB drive... now that same install is sitting on a 160GB drive
[11:02] <spexi> so then any files are not used by the system or does it matter
[11:02] <glebihan> WaltherFI, the file to edit is /etc/default/grub, /boot/grub/grub.cfg is an automatically generated file
[11:02] <vuPg4> i don't understand your question
[11:03] <WaltherFI> glebihan: yes, but i do need the generated file as in i have to check the exact name of the windows entry to set it as default
[11:03] <spexi> well, if I install foss with this existing ubuntu installation and then try to move it other hard drive, is it a problem
[11:03] <farhad2161> how can i get a list of all users in a group
[11:03] <spexi> or should I boot to live cd and then install foss
[11:03] <szal> spexi: lol..  'FOSS' is not the name of a program
[11:04] <spexi> okay :P
[11:04] <Alexxio> actually my problem i think it is related to grub and not to win7 bootloader
[11:04] <Sidewinder1> Free Open Source Software.
[11:04] <spexi> ach
[11:04] <glebihan> WaltherFI, and you don't have a grub.cfg file ? Are you sure you're running grub 2 ?
[11:05] <spexi> just a new abbreviation to me
[11:05] <WaltherFI> glebihan: Just reinstalled it after windows recovery wiped the MBR, reinstalled with the boot-repair as suggested
[11:05] <WaltherFI> glebihan: though, trying to run update-grub2 produces an error now
[11:05] <glebihan> WaltherFI, did you run update-grub ?
[11:05] <glebihan> WaltherFI, what error ?
[11:05] <WaltherFI> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'.
[11:06] <Sidewinder1> spexi, This link should answer most questions that you may have, I found it to be beyond useful: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[11:06] <fifilawu> by FOSS i meant 'Free Open Source Software'
[11:06] <mwaijandeg> ikonia ?
[11:06] <fifilawu> ... that's not the name of the software i used, just a description of it
[11:06] <WaltherFI> glebihan: on a natty liveusb, and you can techbabble at me, long time linux user
[11:06] <mwaijandeg> I mean I mean Ubuntu ultimate Edition
[11:06] <mwaijandeg> thus UE
[11:07] <WaltherFI> just not too familiar with the grub2, never had to deal with problems with it before
[11:07] <fifilawu> The name of the FOSS hard disk cloning program I used is 'Clonezilla'.
[11:07] <spexi> Sidewinder1: ok thanks, I'll look that
[11:07] <spexi> fifilawu: thanks
[11:08] <glebihan> WaltherFI, how did you install grub2 ?
[11:08] <glebihan> WaltherFI, did you install the grub-pc package ?
[11:08] <Sidewinder1> NP
[11:08] <mwaijandeg>  am try to think if there is virtual machine in ubuntu to b able to run win7 xcutable file
[11:09] <mwaijandeg> hello? any one with an idea? Ikonia r u there?
[11:09] <WaltherFI> glebihan: again, this is my dad's computer running 10.10. After an update to windows failed, the MBR was wiped/recovered via the Windows recovery cd and grub wiped out. I asked for recovery help here, boot-repair app was recommended, used that.
[11:09] <auronandace> mwaijandeg: what are you trying to run? it might work in wine or you could install windows in virtualbox
[11:09] <zhou79898> helleo
[11:09] <szal> mwaijandeg: Ultimate Edition is NOT supported here
[11:10] <zhou79898> you can buy a new one
[11:11] <mwaijandeg> Ultimate Edition is not supported here? Okay IF THAT z the case!!
[11:11] <zhou79898> en  hnn
[11:11] <WaltherFI> mwaijandeg: sorry, this is the official ubuntu channel...
[11:11] <zhou79898> yea
[11:11] <jrib> mwaijandeg: ultimate edition isn't an official ubuntu version
[11:12] <kevin_Mitnick> #ubuntu-pt
[11:12] <glebihan> WaltherFI, try installing the grub-pc package then running update-grub again
[11:12] <zhou79898> anyone who can talk about  ub
[11:13] <JakeR003> will ubuntu get slower with abuse use? like windows? over time
[11:13] <JakeR003> like windows gets slower after 1 year use.. then again much slower after 2nd year
[11:13] <JakeR003> and so on
[11:13] <Monotoko> JakeR003, what do you mean by abuse use?
[11:13] <kevin_Mitnick> alguem do brasil
[11:13] <JakeR003> like if kids play with it .. install trash then uninstall then again alot of things they change
[11:13] <kevin_Mitnick> ?
[11:13] <zhou79898> maybe
[11:13] <jetscreamer> cruft i would imabin
[11:13] <jetscreamer> !br
[11:14] <jetscreamer> imagine
[11:14] <gralco> Recent Nvidia drivers have been making my system freeze, I have an 8800m gts, can anyone help me stop this?
[11:14] <Monotoko> JakeR003 but no...ubuntu shouldn't slow down with use, at least as quickly as Windows
[11:14] <vuPg4> de
[11:14] <jetscreamer> apt-get autoremove
[11:14] <JakeR003> ok because i want ot make backup of it when it's newly installed
[11:14] <WaltherFI> glebihan: brb, trying to boot
[11:15] <Sidewinder1> spexi, I don't think "cloning" will achieve your goals; it'll 'remember' UUIDs in some config files and may cause problems. What you need to do is partition your drives, clean install the ubuntu version of your choice, then copy your "Home" directory from your original install to the new one.
[11:15] <JakeR003> the ubuntu network proxy settings apply automically to everyting on the system?
[11:15] <jetscreamer> gralco: you might ask in #nvidia at same time
[11:15] <gralco> jetscreamer: freenode?
[11:16] <jetscreamer> gralco: yeh
[11:16] <spexi> Sidewinder1: yeah.. I just had hard work getting shares to work and so on, but maybe I just try to configure all the same way with fresh intallation :p
[11:16] <gralco> jetscreamer: will do!
[11:16] <jetscreamer> see also select /etc stuff for 'cloning'
[11:19] <ubuntu> hi, I am with 11.04 on a live cd... I tried to install nvidia-drivers and run nvidia-xconfig but it can't load nvidia module . Can I use 3D on my live cd?
[11:20] <WaltherFI> glebihan: No grub, no luck
[11:20] <ushills> anyone had any success with the rtl8192cu wireless card
[11:21] <vi390> hi, having activated dual monitor in unity-natty. I can move the Mousepointer to the second Mon,but when I try to move any window to it, it displays a big darker area , sort of graphical Error. Any idea why I cant move anything to the second mon? (mabye the Systray above does not allow ot, on the other hand makes no sense, because i can move the mousepointer there...)
[11:22] <mwaijandeg> WaltherFI n jrib I am not familiar with what are the official ubuntu versions please help me at least what is the current version?
[11:22] <glebihan> WaltherFI, you don't get to grub at all, or you get to grub console ?
[11:22] <mwaijandeg> I mean current official ubuntu version
[11:23] <jrib> mwaijandeg: ubuntu.com ; 11.04 (natty) is the latest official release
[11:23] <WaltherFI> glebihan: nothing at all. Boots to windows.
[11:23] <mwaijandeg> thank u
[11:23] <WaltherFI> glebihan: apparently the boot-repair isn't working
[11:24] <sim-value> Is it possible to create a bootable USB stick using dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX ?
[11:24] <glebihan> WaltherFI, then I suggest you rerun grub installation from the live CD, following that guide : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[11:25] <WaltherFI> sim-value: should be
[11:25] <sim-value> It worked with Arch, and with the Xubuntu ISO i can browse the files, but it doesnt boot
[11:25] <IdleOne> sim-value: not with 11.04, next version will be possible
[11:25] <WaltherFI> glebihan: i was wondering if the old-skool style was still possible :)
[11:25] <glebihan> WaltherFI, ok source it is :)
[11:25] <glebihan> *course*
[11:25] <WaltherFI> glebihan: i've fixed the grub1 a couple of times with chroot, familiar with it
[11:25] <sim-value> IdleOne, thanks, ill use the create bootable USB option than
[11:26] <IdleOne> sim-value: go with unetbootin, better results for most
[11:26] <WaltherFI> IdleOne: huh, weird inconsistency
[11:28] <WaltherFI> glebihan: any ideas? chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error
[11:29] <Skilz> How do I put myself in the path so I don't have to sudo iwconfig sudo ifconfig ect?
[11:29] <rileyp>  Is anyone using irsend in natty I cant get it to work
[11:30] <WaltherFI> glebihan: bah, wasted too much time on this. I'll just download the natty iso and reinstall the thing, faster than trying to fix grub and upgrade
[11:30] <WaltherFI> 'nyway, thanks
[11:30] <WaltherFI> bye for now
[11:34] <flores> hi folks, I think I have a very useful information for Ubuntu users, I have bougt a brand new acer aspire 5250, on which I tried to install ubuntu 11.04, and upon boot I just got a screen freezed. The strange behaviur was that if I was connect to a network cable, it was totally nice, but as soon as i unplugged the cable i hung, and i had to force shutdown, and could not reboot. The solution I have found was to configure the laptop to try fi
[11:34] <sim-value> IdleOne, does Unetbootin support 11.04? only 10.04 is listed
[11:35] <jrib> flores: you may as well finish since I imagine a very frustrated googler if you don't but this isn't the right place for this.  Use bugs.ubuntu.com if it is a bug or put it up on help.ubuntu.com/community somewhere
[11:35] <dr_willis> sim-value,  check unetbootin homepage for newer versions. Or the Pendrivelinux tools for other similer tools.
[11:35] <IdleOne> sim-value: it should
[11:35] <IdleOne> also see what dr_willis said
[11:36] <suppoa> how do I make it so when I boot up, it has a multiuser interface and I am forced to log in by inserting my keyring password
[11:36] <dr_willis> sim-value,  I think it should also work for slightly newer versions. its doing the same basic operations for them all.
[11:36] <jrib> flores: your message was truncated at "the laptop to try fi"
[11:36] <dr_willis> suppoa,  'multiuser interface'?  System normally boots to the GDM login, or auto logins. keyring is asked for when the user logs in.
[11:37] <dr_willis> or autologsin - if the keyring is set to have a password.
[11:37] <suppoa> dr_willis how do I change it so it doesnt auto login and asks for my password
[11:38] <dr_willis> suppoa,  its in the Login settings somewhere..  under GDM or Login,
[11:38] <flores> jrib: hi ok, but what you mean with "frustrated googler"?
[11:38] <dr_willis> I dont have the menus menoriuzed any more. :)
[11:38] <jrib> flores: these channels are logged so someone with the same problem will probably find this log now
[11:39] <jrib> flores: but since your message was truncated before you gave the solution, the person googling will likely be frustrated (hi googler)
[11:39] <dr_willis> 'configure the maptop to try fi.....................'
[11:40] <flores> jrib: ok, i will try another place to post
[11:40] <jrib> flores: please finish your message here (this one time)
[11:40] <dr_willis> flores,   you may want to put the question and answer on askubuntu.com also.
[11:40] <sim-value> Will Booting from USB stick work with an Ext4 partition?
[11:41] <dr_willis> sim-value,  should work.
[11:41] <dr_willis> sim-value,  ive done full installs to usb sticks using ext4, and made grub2 setups booting iso files using ext2/3/4 also.
[11:42] <jasonmsp> Hey all.  I have an executable file that I have setup in my /opt folder and I want to run it from the GUI side of ubuntu.  How can I make it available as if it were an app?
[11:42] <jrib> jasonmsp: create a .desktop file for it
[11:42] <sim-value> dr_willis, thanks, installing the live image right now
[11:42] <Dori922> have a wiiiierd problem :s
[11:42] <jasonmsp> jrib:  thanks..  googling now
[11:43] <Dori922> im trying to SSH into a VM(UEC) using: sudo ssh -i /dir/mykey.priv ubuntu@$IPADDR
[11:43] <jrib> jasonmsp: in the gui you can look for "create launcher" option (I think it shows up when you right click on an executable
[11:43] <Dori922> and im getting back: sude: ssh -i: command not found
[11:44] <dr_willis> try just ssh -i  Dori922
[11:44] <dr_willis> i get $ ssh -i
[11:44] <dr_willis> ssh: option requires an argument -- i
[11:44] <Dori922> dr_willis:  without the mykey.priv?
[11:44] <dr_willis> Dori922,  without the sudo also...
[11:45] <Dori922> dr_willis:  now tried: ssh -i ubuntu@$IPADDR and got back same error, ssh -i command not found
[11:45] <jrib> that's a pretty strange error
[11:45] <dr_willis> try just 'ssh -i'
[11:46] <dr_willis> you ARE getting a space in there? :)
[11:46] <dr_willis> try just 'ssh       -i'
[11:46] <jrib> dr_willis: heh
[11:46] <dr_willis> this font - its hard to tell.
[11:46] <jasonmsp> jrib:  thanks!
[11:46] <Dori922> yeah theres a space :P
[11:47] <jrib> jasonmsp: you can also do it with alacarte, but I don't know how unity interacts with that
[11:47] <dr_willis> output of ssh -V may help also.
[11:47] <jrib> dr_willis: you should pastebin what you type and full error output (just copy and paste)
[11:47] <Dori922> ssh -i alone gives me a set of options including "[user@]hostname]"
[11:47] <jrib> erm
[11:47] <jrib> Dori922: you should pastebin what you type and full error output (just copy and paste)
[11:47] <dr_willis> so ssh -i, does work.. :) we just showed that...
[11:48] <jrib> jasonmsp: there's some discussion here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity-by-hand
[11:48] <jasonmsp> jrib: thanks
[11:48] <Dori922> im using a laptop for inet access and a server box/cloud box with no GUI/browser for the commands jrib
[11:48] <jrib> !pastebinit | Dori922
[11:48] <jasonmsp> jrib: no create launcher in 11.04 w/ right click
[11:48] <Dori922> im following commands from UEC's installation guide...
[11:48] <Dori922> \;9
[11:48] <Dori922> *:(
[11:49] <jrib> jasonmsp: apparently you can right click on desktop -> create launcher according to that last link
[11:49] <neocicak_> ok.. something nasty has just happened to my ubuntu. i got 'directory mounted in read only mode', and i had to go to recovery mode. Now i'm seeing scrolling 'directory inode'  'has unallocated block#' screen. the number keeps going on & on ..
[11:50] <dr_willis> neocicak,  your filesystem got currupted and/or/because of some hard drive errirs..
[11:50] <jasonmsp> jrib: your right.  on the desktop, not the file.  thanks
[11:50] <jrib> jasonmsp: no problem
[11:50] <dr_willis> neocicak,  so you rebooted and its fscking the filesystem it seems?
[11:50] <neocicak_> dr_willis : yeah
[11:51] <neocicak_> dr_willis : it doesnt seem its going to stop doing that auto fixing stuff :(
[11:51] <jasonmsp> jrib:  well that was the easiest thing ive done all day. Thanks for the help!
[11:51] <dr_willis> neocicak,  if the hd really had a major issue.. well.. it may take some time.. there may be lots of data loss also. - its hard to tell whats best to do at this time.
[11:52] <neocicak_> dr_willis: do you think it is a physical error (not recoverable?)
[11:52] <dr_willis> neocicak,  go to a differnt console, and look at dmest output
[11:52] <dr_willis> 'dmesg' output
[11:53] <maptz> Please, do anyone no how to modify the WINS server in samba. I try to edit /var/lib/samba/wins.dat but after a nmblookup, my name is not resolve and wins.dat remove my entries.
[11:54] <dr_willis> !info samba-doc
[11:54] <dr_willis> maptz,  the samba-doc package has several 'books' written about admining samba.  Ive rarely had to mess with the wins server part of the system.
[11:54] <ono_efeyu> any can help how to install appserv into ubuntu 11.4
[11:55] <dr_willis> maptz,  they may be a bit out of date depending on the current samba version however.
[11:55] <dr_willis> !info appserv
[11:55] <ArchLinuxman> hello
[11:55] <dr_willis> ono_efeyu,  and whats appserv?
[11:55] <ono_efeyu> so
[11:55] <ono_efeyu> if xampp
[11:56] <bullgard4_> My Natty has installed the packages linux-headers-2.6.38-10-generic and linux-headers-2.6.38-10-server. Description: "Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.38 on x_86_64" or "Linux kernel headers for version 2.6.38 on x86/x86_64" respectively. Do I need both?
[11:56] <dr_willis> each kernel has its own set of headers, needed when compiling modules and other things aganist the kernel.
[11:56] <ono_efeyu> dr_willis, i want install webserver on my ubuntu system
[11:56] <dr_willis> ono_efeyu,  apache is the normal web server. its in the repos. hteres others you can use.
[11:57] <dr_willis> !lamp
[11:57] <maptz> dr_willis: my issue is to resolve the name of my samba domain DOMAIN<1b>, from a bdc in another network than pdc to join it to the domain
[11:57] <ono_efeyu> ok, thanks for info
[11:58] <jrib> bullgard4_: no,  you don't need both.  But the reason you have both is because you have the corresponding metapackage installed for both -generic and -server.  You likely just want to choose the kernel you want to run and stick with that (remove either the metapackage for -server or -generic)
[11:58] <maptz> dr_willis: I read samba-doc since 1 month
[11:58] <dr_willis> maptz,  all i know on wins.. is  very little..  theres the #samba channel also.
[11:59] <Metaxa> Hi folks. Anyone here good with Xrandr?
[11:59] <ArchLinuxman> maptz: what is are you trying to do with samba
[11:59] <maptz> dr_willis: ok, thx for help
[12:00] <maptz> ArchLinuxman: I have a remote bdc, and I want to join it to the domain of my pdc
[12:01] <m_> anyone here with knowledge in ldap and pam_group
[12:01] <maptz> ArchLinuxman: When i try to join the domain or get the SID, my server is 'unable to find a suitable domain', but with IP argument it's work
[12:02] <maptz> ArchLinuxman: so i'm trying to solve my name resolution problem
[12:03] <m_> what's the difference between id and id USERNAME need help concerning groups
[12:04] <sim-value> Ok, for the Record, creating a 11.04 CD does not work with the unetbootin in the repositorys :)
[12:04] <ArchLinuxman> That is a Nat problem and futhermore does one machine control both nat and samba server.... I would say best to try samba channel and if all else fails try linuxquestions.org
[12:04] <chaddy> m_: id on its own just means the same as id <myusername>
[12:04] <maptz> I have no answers in samba channel
[12:06] <maptz> ArchLinuxman: Do you think it could be due to my environnement test (samba pdc is a virtual machine with nat enable on the host)?
[12:06] <bullgard4_> jrib: The only linux-image-2.6.38-10-* package which is installed on my comuter, is linux-image-2.6.38-10-server. (linux-image-2.6.38-10-generic is not installed.) Can I delete the package linux-headers-2.6.38-10-generic? What is the name of "the corresponding metapackage installed for both -generic and -server" that you are mentioning?
[12:07] <ArchLinuxman> maptz: your starting to try to many things at once and what is worse are you using ubuntu as the server....
[12:07] <maptz> ArchLinuxman: yes, i have a ubuntu server
[12:09] <ArchLinuxman> maptz: try a debian or slackware server if it is only for Samba!!!!! Ubuntu makes a great desktop ,but it can run it problems as a server...
[12:10] <Pici> ArchLinuxman: Please don't use this channel for spreading FUD
[12:11] <maptz> ArchLinuxman: thank you, I'll try that
[12:12] <ArchLinuxman> maptz: first off join samba pose question there I am not the authority on getting it to work properly it may be a simple fix
[12:12] <Lataria> hello
[12:13] <Lataria>  how can I determine if a por is open or blocker for my isp?
[12:13] <sim-value> rm -R * will only delete files / directorys in my current working folder, right?
[12:13] <Northernen> What is the problem if 'mount' lists my home folder as not mounted, yet I can see its contents (albeit there are problems writing to it)?
[12:13] <iceroot> sim-value: yes
[12:13] <sim-value> Northernen, is your disk full?
[12:14] <Northernen> sim-value, nowhere near it.
[12:14] <iceroot> sim-value: its better to use rm -r /path/foo/* instead of rm -r *
[12:14] <Northernen> sim-value, but it's not even listed in 'df -h'.
[12:15] <sim-value> iceroot, thanks, will note that command, but for now it seems i nuked only what I wanted
[12:15] <Northernen> sim-value, although I have an NTFS partition mounted under my /home, which is quite large. I wouldn't think that would affect it though.
[12:15] <maptz> ArchLinuxman: I'm currently waiting for answers in samba channel
[12:15] <sim-value> Northernen, is the NTFS partition your home partition, or is it just mounted there?
[12:15] <bullgard4_> Lataria: What is a "por"?
[12:16] <loloski1000> where can i download mobile worms
[12:16] <loloski1000> ?¿
[12:16] <Northernen> sim-value, it's mounted there. My home partition is a normal ext4 partition.
[12:16] <ArchLinuxman> Pici: After using 18+ distro's I dont spread FUD... Lets see first distro was Red Hat 7.2 and yes Samba worked with less hassle then ubuntu will ever work with ..... Ubuntu is the greatest desktop for linux  because it supports more hardware then any other linux distro ever..... as a server no to many updates for a process you want to work at all times not do dance
[12:16] <maptz> ArchLinuxman: I don't really enjoy to reinstall a debian because it's look be very close to work
[12:16] <rileyp>  Is anyone using irsend in natty I cant get it to work
[12:16] <splz> loloski1000, nowhere
[12:16] <sim-value> Northernen, did you check your /etc/fstab file?
[12:16] <Northernen> sim-value, /etc/fstab -> UUID=44C0B828C0B821DA /home/xxx/windows ntfs defaults 0 0
[12:16] <Lataria> bullgard4,  sorry port
[12:17] <sim-value> Northernen, ok, that answers that question...
[12:17] <loloski1000> splz thanks
[12:17] <ArchLinuxman> maptz: not now this must be on weekend with spare time also I would check to see all hardware is compatible before install
[12:18] <Northernen> sim-value, there's no entry for my home partition, but it's been working up till now, so I always assumed it was done automatically.
[12:18] <jrib> bullgard4_: so you want to use the -server kernel?  You probably have linux-headers-generic installed and linux-headers-server
[12:18] <coemd> hello how can i know my RAM, another think like /proc/meminfo
[12:18] <ArchLinuxman> maptz: you could open up a can of worms with a quick fix....
[12:18] <jrib> coemd: free -m
[12:19] <bullgard4_> Lataria: sudo netstat -tulpen | grep -v '127.0.0.1'  | grep -v '::1:'
[12:19] <sim-value> Northernen, there's an entry for my /home in my fstab, so that's probably the error
[12:20] <ArchLinuxman> maptz: Look get some other advice then just me... There are lots of people out there that could have a better way and great advice... I am not god I don't know everything...
[12:21] <Northernen> sim-value, bit odd though that I am able to use the partition though. Mind pasting your /home fstab entry? Not quite sure what to put as options.
[12:21] <coemd> jrib: with free -m when in Total 6000 that mean i have 6Gb
[12:21] <blackshirt> hello maptz
[12:21] <Lataria> thanks bullgard4
[12:21] <jrib> coemd: about that, sure
[12:21] <maptz> blackshirt: hello
[12:21] <bullgard4_> jrib: Yes: I want to use the -server kernel. --  Yes: the package linux-headers-generic is installed. --  Yes: The package linux-headers-server is installed.
[12:22] <jrib> coemd: free -m returns your memory in megabytes
[12:22] <Metaxa> Hi folks. My laptop is running 11.04, the laptop screen does not show anything and an external monitor is needed to see my desktop. xrandr shows the physical size of LDVS as 0mm x 0mm, How can I tell it that my screen is really there?
[12:22] <sim-value> Northernen, # /home was on /dev/sdb2 during installation
[12:22] <sim-value> UUID=1106a1f4-682e-4024-ba8a-be853ad66247 /home           ext4    defaults        0       2
[12:22] <jrib> bullgard4_: you have no need for linux-headers-generic
[12:22] <coemd> ok thanks
[12:22] <auronandace> coemd: 1Gb = 1024mb
[12:22] <Northernen> sim-value, cheers, will try.
[12:22] <blackshirt> maptz: how about your dual boot install ?
[12:23] <Guest87865> NickServ register 8524673 mllserv.adm@gmail.com
[12:23] <sim-value> Northernen, But your UUID will be different of course
[12:23] <coemd> ok all right thanks
[12:23] <maptz> ArchLinuxman: Sure, but your warning on ubuntu server was an idea, I note it an then if I confirm it I'll follow you. So thank you for your advice
[12:24] <bullgard4_> jrib: So I have deleted the package linux-headers-generic.
[12:24] <maptz> blackshirt: my dual boot install? I'm currently working on samba
[12:24] <blackshirt> maptz: hufft..sorry..
[12:24] <IdleOne> Guest87865: you may want to add a / before that command and also change the password. (your phone number is not a good password)
[12:24] <blackshirt> maptz: setup bdc
[12:25] <jrib> bullgard4_: ok
[12:25] <Guest87865> i am sorry godbye
[12:25] <maptz> blackshirt: my bdc is up just don't want to resolve names and contact pdc
[12:25] <JakeR003> in firefox 5 the scrolling is too smooth.. how i can disable it?
[12:25] <bullgard4_> jrib: Can I also delete linux-headers-2.6.38-10-generic?
[12:25] <Lataria> hashashin,  hashashin,  well the port required for amule don't appear even in the list not the tcp not the udp
[12:25] <JakeR003> smooth scrollig is disabled but still too smooth
[12:25] <ArchLinuxman> maptz: its sound advice, but your setup or idea is the bigger question of why are you running a VM machine if you plan to do a regular install????
[12:26] <Lataria> bullgard4,  hashashin,  well the port required for amule don't appear even in the list not the tcp not the udp
[12:27] <jrib> bullgard4_: yes
[12:27] <bullgard4_> Lataria: I am not familiar with Amule. I cannot help you.
[12:28] <Gabriel`> Bom dia.
[12:29] <Northernen> sim-value, I think it works. Thank you!
[12:29] <sim-value> Northernen, nice :)
[12:29] <Metaxa> Hi Gabriel
[12:29] <maptz> ArchLinuxman: It's a choice of my sysadmin to keep network and systemes safe... just in case. I'm in internship so I'm working in virtual machines but i'm pretty sure my configuration work in prod environement
[12:30] <anli_> Strange, when I access a file, the file access time does not change in nautlius
[12:30] <anli_> nautilus
[12:30] <Lataria> I'm not asking about amule I need to open some ports that are not listed for netstat command
[12:31] <FaRoF4> Help me please...
[12:31] <chaddy> !ask
[12:32] <Northernen> sim-value, it's not working properly though, it lists my partition as having 160 GB (of 170 GB in total) free, but I still get error messages saying "write error: No space left on device".
[12:32] <ArchLinuxman> maptz: Wow, I was an inter for a hospital they kept trying to hire me..  Funny never got told to leave a server alone or the network alone...
[12:33] <sim-value> Northernen, maybe a Problem with permissions ? did you reboot?
[12:34] <LPhas> hello i've a problem. i got a python gstreamer program. if i start ubuntu, then open a shell then launch it it works, if i launch it via gnome-session-manager i get no audio. so 1) what is different launching a progrm via gnome-session-manager, 2 where can i get the logs of programs launched this way?
[12:34] <bazhang> !ot | ArchLinuxman
[12:35] <Northernen> sim-value, I'm in a sub directory within my own home directory, and the partition is mounted as rw. Shouldn't be a permission issue.
[12:35] <Northernen> Worth a try though. I'll be back.
[12:36] <ArchLinuxman> what is with all these haters in here.... Im not bothering a single person..... I'm not saying even for a minute that I don't like ubuntu.... I love it for desktop
[12:36] <maptz> ArchLinuxman: Lucky guy... in my case I'm punished with virtualbox :D
[12:36] <ArchLinuxman> maptz: I will meet you in the samba room
[12:37] <bazhang> ArchLinuxman, the excessive offtopic commentary is not needed nor welcome, that's what the #ubuntu-offtopic channel is for
[12:37] <ikonia> mwaijandeg: hello
[12:38] <mwaijandeg> helo
[12:38] <mwaijandeg> ts hap
[12:39] <Metaxa> How much time is ok to allow before I can repost my question?
[12:39] <abb_a> please what software in ubuntu will allow me run programs(on different systems ) in parallel while controlling from my own system
[12:39] <popey> abb_a: ssh
[12:39] <IdleOne> Metaxa: usually 5-10 minutes is fine
[12:40] <mwaijandeg> Ikonia: Hello
[12:40] <jpds> !ssh | abb_a
[12:40] <ikonia> mwaijandeg: are you sorted now ?
[12:40] <Northernen> !sshd
[12:41] <Metaxa> Hi folks. My laptop is running 11.04, the laptop screen does not show anything and an external monitor is needed to see my desktop. xrandr shows the physical size of LDVS as 0mm x 0mm, How can I tell it that my screen is really there?
[12:41] <sre-su> Is it safe to empty /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
[12:41] <jpds> sre-su: Yes.
[12:41] <abb_a> popey jpds thanks will I be able to run parallel programs ?
[12:41] <jpds> sre-su: That's what apt-get clean does.
[12:41] <jpds> abb_a: Yes.
[12:41] <popey> abb_a: such as?
[12:41] <mwaijandeg> Ikonia: at least
[12:42] <Kartagis> I have a problem. I'm using google docs, I create a document, and the moment I hit the middle button to paste a link, it goes to that link. any ideas?
[12:42] <ikonia> great
[12:42] <mwaijandeg> Ikonia: am not satsfied
[12:42] <sre-su> Thanks jpds
[12:42] <IdleOne> Kartagis: use ctrl+v instead.
[12:42] <mwaijandeg> ikonia: but I have not satisfied
[12:42] <ikonia> mwaijandeg: what's the issue ?
[12:43] <Kartagis> IdleOne: and go back to windows days?
[12:43] <Kartagis> IdleOne: but isn't this some kind of bug?
[12:44] <IdleOne> Kartagis: keyboard shortcuts were hardly invented by windows. and it does sound like a bug but sounds like a google doc bug. might want to check with google.
[12:44] <abb_a> popey e.g. running the same codes on 2 diff machines i.e. in parallel
[12:44] <mwaijandeg> ikonia: one of you guys have stared the issue of official version that UE is not one of which are said to be.
[12:45] <ikonia> mwaijandeg: I don't know what Ubuntu UE is (do you mean ultimate edition?)
[12:46] <bullgard4_> jrib: Grub 2 shows a boot entry "Linux 2.6.38-8-generic on /dev/sda1". I had done '~$ sudo update-grub'. Can you tell me why Synaptic shows that the package linux-image-2.6.38-8-generic is not installed?
[12:46] <abb_a> popey, jpds e.g. running the same codes on 2 diff machines i.e. in parallel
[12:47] <mwaijandeg> ikonia: yes, Ultimate Edition I mean.
[12:47] <jpds> abb_a: codes?
[12:47] <ikonia> mwaijandeg: no versions are supported
[12:47] <abb_a> jpds yes
[12:50] <escott> bullgard4_, check with dpkg -l "*linux*". synaptic is probably just going to show linux-image
[12:51] <popey> abb_a: yes, you can run any arbitrary command on a remote box, even on multiple machines with ssh
[12:52] <Sidewinder1> jpds, I think he (abb_a) means scripts/programs.
[12:53] <abb_a> Sidewinder1 yes thanks
[12:53] <Fanda> Hi, please, how show I set up my Ubuntu for scanning over lan on Xerox Phaser MFP? I am watching sane, but it is no clear for me...
[12:54] <bazhang> Fanda, using simplescan ?
[12:54] <abb_a> popey, how do i do that....do you have a link to some guideline
[12:54] <l33o> hi
[12:55] <mrmist> .11
[12:55] <escott> !ssh | abb_a
[12:55] <Fanda> bazhang: it do not see the scanner, nor xsane. Need it some setup?
[12:56] <bazhang> Fanda, let me check the ubuntuforums on that
[12:56] <jayD1> hello. I am using 11.04 with unity on my Lenovo W510 using the nvidia driver. Works fine most of the time, but about once per day, unity will hang.  Anyone who could help?
[12:57] <l33o> just wanted to let you all know that natty with rt patch from ppa works smooth, til yet quite stable and jack latency performance seems better
[12:59] <bazhang> http://www.support.xerox.com/support/phaser-3100mfp/downloads/enus.html?operatingSystem=linux&fileLanguage=en  Fanda this model? or another
[13:00] <damo> hey
[13:00] <jayD1> rehi
[13:00] <Fanda> bazhang: I have 6110MFP, but this lib should work with hoth, I will read...
[13:00] <jayD1> I was just logging in and asking for help with Unity hangs. guess what. unity hanged on me. so i had to reboot
[13:00] <lonny> Hi there, I look at my auth.log file to find entries like + ??? root:user.....any idea folks what's it all about?
[13:00] <bazhang> Fanda, okay, thats for 7.10 let me search for more up to date ones
[13:01] <JakeR003> is there a way to stop smooth scrolling in ubuntu firefox ?
[13:01] <escott> JakeR003, check about:config
[13:01] <JakeR003> what's in there ?
[13:02] <JakeR003> which key
[13:02] <escott> JakeR003, no idea, but im sure it is in there
[13:03] <damo> heyz
[13:03] <popey> JakeR003: general.smoothScroll
[13:05] <jayD1> ok, lets repeat: I am using 11.04 on my Lenovo W510, nvidia driver and unity. Unity hangs about once per day. Anyone around who could help?
[13:06] <bazhang> http://www.jon.demon.co.uk/dell1600n-net-scan/ Fanda you may wish to look at this
[13:06] <ynick> i want to how to instal ubuntu. on my computer?
[13:06] <subz3r0> ynick, just install it?
[13:06] <melanie> ynick: where's the problem?
[13:06] <l33o> the web page is selfexplaining i think
[13:06] <l33o> i gues in any language
[13:07] <ynick> i am currenty having windows xp on my system
[13:07] <l33o> no problem either
[13:07] <bullgard4_> escott: '~$ dpkg -l "*linux*" ' lists the package »linux-headers-2.6.38-10-generic«. This is the only entry having 'generic' in its name. So the results of Synaptic and dpkg do not contradict. Why does Grub 2 show a boot entry "Linux 2.6.38-8-generic on /dev/sda1 ?
[13:07] <ynick> but blender id slow on it
[13:07] <Fanda> bazhang: I will look. Thanks.
[13:07] <LPhas> hello, i've a question. i don't really need gdm and gnome on my pandaboard, so i would like to be able to run startx as a user on boot, instead of getting gdm start. how can i do that?
[13:07] <escott> bullgard4, its not generic is "linux-image-2..."
[13:07] <Sidewinder1> jayD1, Have you checked launchpad.net for a bug regarding that particular driver?
[13:08] <ynick> do oyu think instaling ubuntu helps to run it fast?
[13:08] <escott> LPhas, you could create your own script in /etc/init.d to replace the gdm scripts and start your session
[13:08] <jayD1> sidewinder1: is there a simple way to do that? i typically get lost when looking for bugs at launchpad?
[13:09] <LPhas> escott, i don't want to use a daemon
[13:09] <flecha> Hello! Where is the icon list that I can use in Aplication Indicators?
[13:10] <ynick_> any help?
[13:10] <bullgard4_> escott: '~$ dpkg -l "*linux*" does not list an entry ""linux-image-2..." ending in 'generic'.
[13:10] <flecha> I mean, where can I see all the icons that I can use
[13:10] <coz_> flecha,  on the system you mean?
[13:10] <flecha> yes
[13:10] <LPhas> escott, btw *REPLACING* /etc/init.d/gdm sounds quite a mess
[13:10] <ynick_> but blender id slow on it
[13:10] <coz_> flecha,   /usr/share/icons
[13:11] <ynick_> i want to how to instal ubuntu. on my computer?
[13:11] <flecha> coz_,  ty =)
[13:11] <coz_> flecha,   /usr/share/pixmaps
[13:11] <coz_> flecha, /usr/share/app-install
[13:11] <ynick_> i am currenty having windows xp on my system
[13:11] <bazhang> !install | ynick_ please read this
[13:12] <ynick_> Ok
[13:12] <l33o> i guess the problem is xp or?
[13:12] <Sidewinder1> jayD1, Perhaps this (although no definitive answers) might look familiar? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1757165&highlight=Lenovo+W510
[13:12] <l33o> do you have a own harddisc or do you want to get linux on the same harddisc?
[13:13] <cdeszaq> Does anyone know how stable the tomcat7 package is for oneiric?
[13:13] <coz_> cdeszaq,  best to ask in #ubuntu+1
[13:13] <l33o> do you need fast performance or do you might think you would get along running ubuntu from a usb stick?
[13:13] <cdeszaq> coz_: Thanks
[13:13] <jayD1> Sidewinder1: nope. Mine is more like: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/803998
[13:14] <coz_> cdeszaq,  you know how to switch channels...yes?
[13:14] <cdeszaq> coz_: Yup, already there :)
[13:14] <coz_> cdeszaq, cool
[13:15] <jayD1> lets rephrase my question: is there a simply way to restart Unity/compiz when it freezes? I am still able to do a ctrl-alt-1 to change to a console ....
[13:15] <l33o> the really good thing, why i am allways comming back to ubuntu: its easy to use now a days
[13:16] <l33o> i can do it -  you can do it ;)
[13:16] <szal> jayD1: what gfx driver do you use?
[13:17] <Sidewinder1> jayD1, I'm sorry to say that I can't help you; I don't use Unity; I'm an LTS kinda' guy. :-)
[13:17] <JakeR003> is there a way to get an indication inthe panel on how much is the network speed?
[13:18] <JakeR003> download/upload speed
[13:18] <jayD1> szal: nvidia
[13:18] <jayD1> Sidewinder1: just started to like unity
[13:18] <szal> jayD1: which one exactly?
[13:18] <jayD1> really prefer it over gnome2
[13:18] <bazhang> JakeR003, not sure, you could do it with conky though
[13:18] <jayD1> szal: 270.41.06
[13:19] <jayD1> szal: the default installed for Lenovo W510 on 11.04 methinks
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: there's a conky review on omgubuntu with colours in conky
[13:19] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, JakeR003 is wanting to show network speed
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> bazhang: ntop maybe?
[13:20] <Sidewinder1> jayD1, I tried installing 11.04/Unity to a USB in order to test/check-out on my "Sacrificial-Goat" system, unfortunately it's too old and won't boot to Unity, just Classic. :-(
[13:20] <bullgard4_> JakeR003: iotop
[13:20] <bazhang> ActionParsnip, visual representation
[13:20] <coz_> mm
[13:20] <bazhang> ie some kind of indicator applet
[13:20] <szal> jayD1: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates <- install the 280 from this PPA & see if that helps
[13:21] <l33o> i guess mayour parts of unity are also featured by the ubuntu 2 login
[13:21] <Sidewinder1> bazhang, I'd use Screenlets, but, I'm on 10.04.
[13:21] <l33o> i mean ubuntu 2d
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> JakeR003: bazhang: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html
[13:21] <UbuntoN0ob> Hey, I tried to install a dual boot Windows 7 and Backtrack 5, now, I get to the grub prompt but my Win7 partition doesn't show up. The Win7 partition is using disc encryption, could that be why its not showing? Any ideas?
[13:21] <coz_> Sidewinder1,   you dont use screenlets because you are on 10.04?
[13:22] <szal> !backtrack | UbuntoN0ob
[13:22] <UbuntoN0ob> gotcha
[13:22] <Sidewinder1> coz_, No, I do; just wasn't sure that they're available in 11.04.
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> JakeR003: bazhang: sidewinder looks decent :)
[13:22] <Sidewinder1> :-)
[13:22] <coz_> Sidewinder1,  oh ok   ,, yes they are :)
[13:22] <JakeR003> ji
[13:22] <JakeR003> sidewinder what is that?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> !info sidewinder
[13:23] <jayD1> szal: is this just guessing ... or are there some indications somewhere that this newer driver works better? besides: what is the best way to install the driver ... in case i would like to downgrade later on?
[13:23] <JakeR003> sorry i'm busy toying with ubuntu
[13:23] <Sidewinder1> That?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> JakeR003: read the link I gave........
[13:23] <coz_> !info screenlets
[13:23] <Sidewinder1> Heh.
[13:23] <JakeR003> ok sorry i will now
[13:23] <JakeR003> thanks
[13:23] <Sidewinder1> OIC.
[13:23] <szal> jayD1: the 270 has a number of bugs, freezing amongst them
[13:23] <JakeR003> ubuntu is fun to play with.. i don't want to pay anymore for windows sick of it
[13:24] <coz_> Sidewinder1,  there is also a screenlets  dev ppa   easily googled :)
[13:24] <Sidewinder1> JakeR003, I said that in 2007. :-)
[13:24] <szal> jayD1: and if you decide to downgrade, just ppa-purge the PPA
[13:24] <coz_> JakeR003,  ubuntu is also quite powerful  once you get into it
[13:24] <zminer> Hi, I have a compiz/ubuntu question. Right now, I have compiz and emerald enabled, and configured the way I want. Unfortunately, when I restore a minimized window, oftentimes I just get a white window, and I have to redo it several times. My question is, is this an appropriate forum to seek help for this problem, or should I be contacting compiz in some way? I also get transparent windows sometimes, and when I resize, basically my bord
[13:24] <jayD1> szal: so that will automatically remove the packages ... and ensure that the old nvidia driver is used instead?
[13:24]  * Sidewinder1 Still learning.
[13:24] <szal> jayD1: yes
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Sidewinder1: we're all stilllearning ;)
[13:25] <Sidewinder1> ;-)
[13:25] <coz_> zminer,   well there is a #compiz channel,, however  which video card are you using?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> zminer: i'd ask in #compiz     if you don't run emerald, is it ok (emerald is dead an no longer maintained by the way)
[13:26] <zminer> I have an Nvidia gtx 260m, using the latest proprietary driver. However, I have tried the older driver, and it doesn't fix the problem.
[13:26] <coz_> zminer,    and are you on 11.04 ?
[13:26] <zminer> As for Emerald, I have tried without it, and it still happens. Also, I still love emerald, even though it is no longer maintained. :)
[13:26] <RA_drc> hi, if i only have a command-line interface, what do i need to do to get a gui interface?  do i have to install a windowing system?
[13:26] <zminer> Yes, I am using 11.04
[13:26] <coz_> zminer,  are you also using Unity or classic?
[13:26] <iceroot> RA_drc: what do you want? a real desktop like gnome, unitiy, kde, xfce, lxde? or just a x-window-system?
[13:26] <zminer> classic. I just couldn't get into Unity for some reason.
[13:27] <jayD1> szal: ok; i will give it  a try. obviously I will not know if it helps before two or three days of not having crashes
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> RA_drc: ubuntu-desktop     why didn't you just install the desktop OS?
[13:27] <RA_drc> iceroot: what would be the difference between the two?
[13:27] <jayD1> thanks and bye; over and out.
[13:27] <RA_drc> ActionParsnip: that would be too big
[13:27] <coz_> zminer,  ok on 11.04   compiz is version 0.9.x  and emerald doesnt work with that unless you compiled the somewhat quirky emerald for 0.9.x
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> RA_drc: sudo apt-get install lxde lxdm    will give a super light desktop
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> RA_drc: did you install minimal / server ?
[13:28] <coz_> zminer,  you might want to test this by  calling up    gtk-window-decorator --replace & disown    from the terminal
[13:28] <RA_drc> ActionParsnip: i don't have apt-get installed
[13:28] <zminer> Yes, I went through the instructions and compiled Emerald for 64 bit compiz. Also, even when I disable emerald and use the default, I still get the problem.
[13:28] <szal> RA_drc: you gotta be kidding; apt-get is installed by default
[13:28] <coz_> zminer,   after running that command,, see if the windows still exhibit the same behavior
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> RA_drc: you must do even the minimal desktop installs that
[13:28] <coemd> the instalation with ubuntu server cd-rom is without graphical interface?
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> coemd: yes
[13:29] <coz_> coemd,  I believe so
[13:29] <zminer> coz - I tried this, and it still has the problem.
[13:29] <RA_drc> szal: it says "command not found" so.....i don't think it's there
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> coemd: makes it boot faster, use fewer resources and makes it more secure
[13:29] <coz_> zminer,   ok meet me in #compiz
[13:29] <RA_drc> ActionParsnip: it says command not found, so i don't think it's there
[13:29] <zminer> Will do, and thanks so far.
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> RA_drc: then it's not Ubuntu. Ubuntu will install apt-get and dpkg as default
[13:29] <IdleOne> RA_drc: what is the output of lsb_release -a ?
[13:29] <coemd> ActionParsnip: but it will be better to connect to it remotly via vnc for example!
[13:30] <RA_drc> ActionParsnip: how can i install apt-get and dpkg then?
[13:30] <iceroot> RA_drc: you cant install dpkg
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> coemd: it is better to connect via SSH to configure, it's secure. VNC is not secure
[13:30] <theadmin> RA_drc: We can't help if this isn't Ubuntu.
[13:30] <szal> RA_drc: follow IdleOne's request please
[13:30] <iceroot> RA_drc: if you dont have dpkg you have a problem or a non-debian system
[13:30] <coemd> ActionParsnip: ok all right thanks a lot
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> RA_drc: if you don't have dpkg installed you will need to compile it
[13:30] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Bad idea
[13:31] <iceroot> RA_drc: output of "cat /etc/issue"
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> RA_drc: I doubt you have Ubuntu installed at all, Check in /usr/bin   you should see both commands
[13:31] <usr13> RA_drc:  lsb_release -a
[13:31] <Pici> No need for everyone to jump on RA_drc...
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: gonna be tough though...how to install the compiler ;)
[13:32] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Don't base development tools come preinstalled?
[13:32] <RA_drc> iceroot: ActionParsnip usr13 right, i'll get on that shortly
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: not in ubuntu, no
[13:32] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Wow, messed up.
[13:32] <DarsVaeda1> in nautilus how do I enter a path?
[13:32] <ChessTeach> what is the easiest way to set up a way to send mail from the command prompt?
[13:32] <theadmin> DarsVaeda1: Ctrl+L
[13:32] <theadmin> ChessTeach: mutt
[13:32] <DarsVaeda1> that sucks really -.-
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> DarsVaeda1: you can click the pencil (I believe)
[13:33] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: That's gone in recent releases
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> DarsVaeda1: you can make that the default if you want
[13:33] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: You're on... Lemme guess... 10.04?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: 11.10
[13:33] <iceroot> ChessTeach: echo "message" | mail -s "subject" mailaddress
[13:33] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Odd.
[13:33] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Recent nautilus releases don't have that pencil thing...
[13:33] <usr13> ChessTeach: man sendmail  #What exactly do you need to do?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: using pcmanfm as file manager
[13:33] <DarsVaeda1> I'm on 11.04 and its now tabs thing, which is okay if I could click it and it would go to a path
[13:33] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Ah, cool :D
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: nautilus is too slow
[13:33] <ChessTeach> iceroot: i tried that but it told me something wasn't installed, so i tried mailutils, but it isn't sending at all
[13:33] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Totally agreed
[13:34] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: I use thunar myself
[13:34] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Or bash xD
[13:34] <IdleOne> 11.10 talk in #ubuntu+1 you two know better :)
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: just discussing the file managers, which are in both ;)
[13:34] <iceroot> ChessTeach: exact error message please
[13:34] <DarsVaeda1> thunar and pcmanfm, I will have a look into these two :)
[13:35] <theadmin> DarsVaeda1: They're great, yeah. pcmanfm is actually somewhat better
[13:35] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: don't force me to lart you after 24 hours of being awake :)
[13:35] <theadmin> I just use thunar cause it comes with xfce
[13:35] <theadmin> Okay whatever, enough offtopic
[13:35] <IdleOne> thank you
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: hehe not today. Not at work :D
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> yeah enough OT
[13:35] <ubuntu> hey
[13:35] <RA_drc> iceroot: ActionParsnip usr13 hmmm, my boss told me it was ubuntu.  apparently it is something called "angstrom"
[13:35] <ChessTeach> iceroot: no error, just no mail sent
[13:35] <iceroot> ChessTeach: you said there was an error something is not installed
[13:36] <Ismail> I need some help
[13:36] <theadmin> Ismail: Yes?
[13:36] <bazhang> Ismail, with what
[13:36] <Ismail> i installed windows xp after ubuntu, and now only windows boots
[13:36] <szal> !grub | Ismail
[13:36] <ChessTeach> iceroot: oh, yeah it said mail not installed and suggested i install 'mailutils' or some other program i can't remember
[13:36] <dr_willis> !fixgrub | Ismail
[13:36] <theadmin> Ismail: Well yeah, Windows does that
[13:36] <theadmin> dr_willis: Is !restoregrub
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> RA_drc: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/
[13:37] <theadmin> dr_willis: I think
[13:37] <iceroot> ChessTeach: sudo apt-get install mailx
[13:37] <ChessTeach> iceroot: i installed mailutils and then tried to send something, but nothing was recieved at the other end
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> RA_drc: maybe they have a specific channel, it's not ubuntu in any case
[13:37] <usr13> Ismail: MS Windows automatically overwrites any bootloader you may have.  See:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[13:37] <LPhas> i really can't understand why ubuntu moved from inittab
[13:37] <usr13> !upstart | LPhas
[13:38] <LPhas> this is not an answer
[13:38] <DarsVaeda1> does pcmanfm replace nautilus after installation?
[13:38] <theadmin> DarsVaeda1: No
[13:38] <usr13> LPhas: ... and upstart causes your system to boot faster.
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> DarsVaeda1: no, its just a file manaer
[13:38] <DarsVaeda1> I see
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> DarsVaeda1: I believe nautilus will continue to draw to desktop too
[13:38] <DarsVaeda1> first use...find a bug
[13:38] <ChessTeach> iceroot: yeah i did that one too, now all i see is some file that contains the email i wanted to send in my home folder, nothing at the destination though
[13:39] <DarsVaeda1> I should be professional bug-tester or something
[13:39] <ChessTeach> iceroot: all i see after trying to send through mailx that is
[13:39] <DarsVaeda1> I always run into those things, if I'm not creating them myself :)
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> DarsVaeda1: we all are
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> DarsVaeda1: it's why linux bugs get found fast, the developers listen to the users
[13:39] <g[r]eek> Hi. I'm trying to take a screenshot with a <select> menu clicked / activated, but when I press "PrntScn" the popup menu gets deactivated and the resulting screenshot doesn't show the <select> menu options. Is there a way around this? THanks
[13:40] <DarsVaeda1> well sometimes :P
[13:40] <Tastalai> hey, what is the backtrack-linux channel?
[13:40] <ikonia> Tastalai: #backtrack-linux
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> DarsVaeda1: true but do log bugs as you hit them
[13:41] <DarsVaeda1> yes sir!
[13:41] <usr13> g[r]eek: YOu can run gnome-screenshot manually.
[13:42] <DarsVaeda1> I use the bug-tracker, always
[13:42] <g[r]eek> usr13, ok thanks
[13:42] <usr13> g[r]eek: Alt-F2  gnome-screenshot
[13:42] <le3o> hi all
[13:42] <le3o> it's my fisrt time her :d
[13:42] <klawd> hi! i just installed ubuntu 11.04 on my system with nforce630a. now my problem is, that the network says "not connected" and the led indicator on the back does not light up. can someone help me with this please?
[13:43] <le3o> nobody write
[13:43] <davis> hello
[13:43] <le3o> sudo modprobe b43
[13:44] <l33o> c u
[13:44] <davis> if you were going to build a ubantu system to build the android source, how large a filesystem would you provide?
[13:44] <dr_willis> l33o,  Huh?
[13:44] <le3o> davis where are you from ??
[13:44] <dr_willis> davis,  perhaps ask in #android
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> davis: ubuntu, not ubantu
[13:44] <bazhang> !ot | l33o
[13:44] <dr_willis> davis,  i imagine a few gb.. perhaps 10 at a min.
[13:45] <bazhang> whoops sorry l33o
[13:45] <usr13> klawd: What is nforce630a ?
[13:45] <davis> dr_willis: thanks
[13:45] <bazhang> le3o, stay on topic please
[13:45] <le3o> ok
[13:46] <klawd> usr13: my main board chipset
[13:47] <Nitax> if I were to store a large directory with files to be accessed by multiple users…where exactly would I place such a thing on the linux filesystem?
[13:47] <usr13> klawd: You said the "led indicator on the back does not light up"  What is that?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> klawd: check the cable is inserted properly, also try a different port on the device you are connecting to
[13:47] <dr_willis> Nitax,  could be anywhere. You just mount it someplace everyone knows about..
[13:47] <usr13> klawd: Is this a laptop?
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> usr13: Ethernet ports usually have LEDs round the port to show connection and activity
[13:48] <dr_willis> Nitax,  you could put it in /commonfiles/  if you wanted to.
[13:48] <jrib> bullgard4_: I don't know
[13:48] <Nitax> dr_willis: it just seems like some folders under root I definitely should not place them
[13:48] <klawd> no, it's a desktop workstation. ActionParsnip: it is connected correctly, it works perfect under windows
[13:48] <davis> dr_willis: i think 10g for the source build and 10g for a system setup.
[13:48] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Oh, yea, that must be it....
[13:48] <dr_willis> Nitax,  of course it wouldenbt make sence to put them in /etc/ or /usr/bin/stuff/
[13:48] <Nitax> ahhh, just create a new folder under root?  Definitely haven't had my coffee yet.
[13:49] <ChessTeach> iceroot: anything?
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Nitax: I'd put it in /opt personally
[13:49] <dr_willis> Nitax,  or /home/commonstuff   if you want to keep it alongside your home dirs  if on a seperate partition.
[13:49] <usr13> klawd: Is it a wired connection?
[13:49] <klawd> yes
[13:49] <bullgard4_> jrib: Thank you very much for your help. I will further enquire in the German Ubuntuusers forum.
[13:49] <dr_willis> Nitax,  it all depends on how you want to do it.
[13:49] <usr13> klawd: ifconfig   #What does that say?
[13:49] <Nitax> alrighty.  Just didn't want a seasoned Linux user to log on and think I was a moron =)
[13:50] <Nitax> thanks
[13:50] <usr13> klawd: DOn't paste here, just look and see if you have acquired IP info.
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> Nitax: if /home is a separate and larger partition than / then dr_willis's suggestion sounds good
[13:50] <jrib> bullgard4_: if you read the /etc/grub.d scripts you could probably figure it out too (if you want)
[13:50] <klawd> it shows eth0 but pretty much unconfigured. i tested configs for DHCP and for static address, it didn't change anything. couldn't ping anyone on my subnet
[13:50] <Ismail> Hey
[13:50] <klawd> i don't know what the problem is, the drivers or my setup or something i just cant think of
[13:50] <usr13> klawd: You say that the LED does not light up,  are you sure the cable is plugged in good at both ends?
[13:51] <klawd> yes
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> klawd: then run:  sudo lshw -C network    use the product line to find guides
[13:51] <davis> maybe just eclipse, gcc compilers in case i want to do some c code, gdb, a light weight X setup. Not a full system.
[13:51] <klawd> it is. definetely. as i said: it works perfect under windows
[13:51] <klawd> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks
[13:51] <usr13> klawd: lspci   #See what it says about your ethernet device.
[13:51] <Ismail> i originally had ubuntu. installed windows xp at a second partition. Now only windows boots. Right now i am using ubuntu livecd. What is the procedure to restore grub?
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Ismail: boot to ubuntu live CD and reinstate grub2
[13:52] <dr_willis> Ismail,  theres a ubuntu wiki page that details on how to reinstall grub.. but i think the bot is awol right now
[13:52] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[13:52] <dr_willis> there we go.. see above Ismail
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Ismail: the windows installer has blindly overwritten the MBR
[13:52] <klawd> ActionParsnip: it says PCI(sysfs)
[13:52] <Ismail> dr_willis: i checked the first page. doesnt say much...
[13:52] <AdvoWork> hi there, I need a bit of advice really, running ubuntu on a client, user is english but speaks/types English, French, Spanish. Im trying to make it so he can change keyboard or something so he can type french/spanish as well as english, but i cant find a way, he needs to be able to use accents etc
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> klawd: give it time...
[13:52] <dr_willis> Ismail,  you basically reinstall grub to the mbr... thats the core of it.
[13:53] <jrib> AdvoWork: did you try my earlier suggestions?
[13:53] <dr_willis> $ grub-install /dev/XXX
[13:54] <dr_willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling GRUB2
[13:54] <AdvoWork> jrib, i didnt see it, sorry, would you mind repeating please?
[13:55] <dr_willis> Oh cool a 'new' way to repair grub --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[13:55] <klawd> ActionParsnip: there's nothing. i tried a all the available output methods and they all showed.. nothing.
[13:55] <ooxi> ho can i give dd an input file an tell it, if it reaches the end of the input file, to start over from the beginning?
[13:55] <ooxi> *how
[13:55] <jrib> AdvoWork: in system -> preferences -> keyboards options -> layout -> options  you can set a compose key and 3rd level chooser.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComposeKey .  Personally I find having my menu key act as the compose key effective for me though I do not type accents very often.  The way it works (more details in wiki) compose key + '  (release both keys), then press e, produces: é
[13:56] <dr_willis> ooxi,  given how basic of a tool dd is.. i doubt if dd can handle that by itself..  why are you even needing to do this?
[13:57] <fabs> hi
[13:57] <theadmin> ooxi: while true ; do dd if=... ; done ?
[13:57] <theadmin> ooxi: idk, could work :D
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> klawd: the device name should show. If you run:  sudo rfkill list    is the device blocked
[13:57] <ooxi> dr_willis, or some other tool. i want to write data to a disk which is not zero (because i think the ssd will recognize it and handle it different)
[13:57] <bullgard4_> jrib: This site: http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/grub_2 is easier to digest for me.
[13:57] <ooxi> theadmin, don't, think so, will start over at the beginn of the output file, too
[13:57] <theadmin> ooxi: Oh yeah...
[13:57] <AdvoWork> jrib, that may work, do you know of a sort of cheat sheet for the certain accents/foreign letters, if you get me?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> ooxi: then you can use /dev/random
[13:58] <belgianguy> is there a tool to find out what copy protection is present on a cd from within Ubuntu?
[13:58] <iridium> ooxi, maybe youre looking for /dev/urandom output
[13:58] <belgianguy> (within my legal rights)
[13:59] <iridium> it outputs random (not zero)
[13:59] <ooxi> ActionParsnip, i thought about using /dev/urandom but my cpu can only generate like 7MiB/sec which will take ages :-/
[13:59] <ooxi> something like /dev/one would be ideal ^^
[14:00] <jrib> bullgard4_: whatever works :)
[14:00] <jrib> AdvoWork: that wiki page seems to have one of sorts
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> ooxi: it'll work though, that's all I know. Let me search. I found a page yesterday
[14:00] <escott> ooxi, entropy is not cpu bound so much as interrupt bound. you can just mash on the keyboard and usually get the entropy moving again
[14:01] <z80return> hello
[14:01] <ooxi> ActionParsnip, what would be great :-)
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> ooxi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_(Unix)   may give clues
[14:01] <ooxi> escott, afaik urandom (instead of random) is cpu bound
[14:01] <Sidewinder1> belgianguy, Perhaps this is what you're looking for? http://www.softpedia.com/get/CD-DVD-Tools/CD-DVD-Images-Utils/ClonyXXL.shtml
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> ooxi: I'd go with random though, shouldn't take too long
[14:01] <escott> ooxi, another approach that works well is to take a file and encrypt it with gpg -c with a random work, cat it together and repeat
[14:02] <ooxi> escott, hm yes that would actually work
[14:02] <cdeszaq> From the command line, how can I determine what version of Ubuntu I'm running?
[14:02] <belgianguy> Sidewinder1, thanks, I'll go and try it out, it's something fairly advanced I guess, as imgburn couldn't handle it
[14:02] <Sidewinder1> belgianguy, Sorry, typed too fast; that's for win.
[14:02] <no-name-> how do i get my cpu temperature in ubuntu?
[14:02] <no-name-> i'm using 10.10
[14:02] <jrib> AdvoWork: I think french and spanish they are all pretty obvious: '`~^, .  The only ones that you need to look-up are «» and the upside down question mark.  At least that's all I remember :P
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> !sensors | no-name-
[14:03] <belgianguy> Sidewinder1, win is no problem :) I need to make a 180° turn on my chair :p
[14:03] <Redi> hi, is there a command for checking the openGL status? (on LTSP machine)
[14:03] <theadmin> Redi: "openGL status"?
[14:04] <Sidewinder1> belgianguy, This may be a better path to get you headed in the right direction: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_Disc_and_DVD_copy_protection
[14:04] <no-name-> i ran that sensors-detect thing but it said some of the things are sometimes unsafe :o
[14:04] <jrib> AdvoWork: I think that's what you want, but you may also try -es and -fr channels to see what solutions native speakers use
[14:05] <escott> no-name-, depends on how cautious you are. worst case is probably the box locks up and you reboot but skip that test
[14:05] <belgianguy> Sidewinder1, thanks, it'll sure come in handy, as I do believe it uses special tricks
[14:05] <Sidewinder1> :-)
[14:05] <Redi> need to know if the openGL is working on the terminal client (LTSP). I tried to run XBMC but it need openGL support. It worked before so I need to know what changed...
[14:06] <no-name-> escott: are you sure?
[14:06] <AdvoWork> jrib, ok, thanks for the help
[14:07] <neocicak> hi ... has anyone else had a problem while installing 11.04. ? the installer crashed right at the start, while trying to copy files.. i have tested my drive (running badblocks from command line, and there was no error reported)
[14:07] <jrib> neocicak: first step is to checksum the cd
[14:08] <escott> no-name-, its probing various low level registers on the system because there is no interface to these sensors. it could reformat your harddrive. it could fry your video card. it could cause your bios to send threatening emails to the president. it could trigger the launch of nuclear weapons. but it is more likely to lock up the box, and most likely to do nothing. with some research you can identify what kind of sensors you have without
[14:08] <escott> that tool if you want
[14:08] <neocicak> jrib: md5 checksum  is fine.... and i also did disc check.. no errors reported either
[14:09] <jrib> neocicak: try alt cd or check the bug tracker
[14:09] <jrib> !alternate | neocicak
[14:10] <klawd> ActionParsnip: no, nothing
[14:11] <neo21> simple question: how to i get to select which kernel to boot into from menu.lst on startup? ESC does not work for me on Ubuntu 11.04...I am unable to get past the plymouth splash screen and always boot the latest kernel (first menu entry).
[14:11] <iderik> Hello, I am trying to install Wine but it cancels because "libwbclient0_3.5.4~dfsg-1ubuntu8.3_amd64.deb" does not exist. I think it is because I am using an older version of ubuntu and I do not want to update because my internetconnection cant download the huge size of new ubuntu. What should I do? Why shouldnt I be able to use wine with an older version of ubuntu? :/ Please help!
[14:12] <dr_willis> iderik,  compile from source, find ppa/versions for your ubuntu version ...
[14:12] <coz_> iderik,    first  do   sudo apt-get update  && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   then   sudo apt-get install wine
[14:12] <`marianne`> i have a question... why does ubuntu still use swap partitions, rather than swap files?
[14:12] <dr_willis> iderik,  how old is old? what is your version?
[14:12] <iderik> coz_: doesnt that make me update ubuntu?
[14:12] <klawd> could someone with a 64bit system do me a favour and convert me an rpm to a deb pls?
[14:12] <coz_> iderik,   no  it wont  honest :O
[14:12] <coz_> :)
[14:13] <dr_willis> iderik,  you want to be up to date.. but not 'upgrading to the next release'
[14:13] <iderik> dr_willis: 10.10 maverick
[14:13] <BluesKaj> het folks
[14:13] <szal> iderik: as long as you don't change package sources, no
[14:13] <escott> `marianne`, you can configure how you want, but i believe that a swap partition is needed for hibernation (not 100% sure of that though)
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> klawd: if you want, sure
[14:13] <klawd> http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/nforce/1.21/NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.21.zip this one
[14:13] <BluesKaj> err hey
[14:13] <dr_willis> escott,  aparently it can work with a swap file... but  ive never seen it done.
[14:13] <`marianne`> escott, ah... and yeah, i know i can set it up manually :) i just find it mildly irritating that the installer has no option for it, then complains at me when i don't set up a swap partition hehe
[14:13] <klawd> ActionParsnip: SuSE10/rpm/nvlan-suse10-0.60-1.21.x86_64.rpm
[14:14] <jrib> `marianne`: maybe file a bug requesting the feature and include patch if you really want it :P
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> klawd: do you have the full link please...
[14:14] <Abu-Aisha> how to change the size an image using shotwell photo viewer
[14:14] <Abu-Aisha> ?
[14:14] <klawd> ActionParsnip: http://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/nforce/1.21/NFORCE-Linux-x86-1.21.zip this one
[14:14] <iderik> coz_: dr_willis: I think it works now, because it started to download :) Actually I skipped the "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade", it did sound to my ears that it upgrades my dist, doesn it? :OOO
[14:15] <`marianne`> jrib, my coding skills aren't good enough to include a patch, but maybe requesting it as a feature would be a good idea... though i don't think i'd be the first to
[14:15] <jrib> `marianne`: doesn't hurt to check (bugs.ubuntu.com)
[14:15] <coz_> iderik,  the dist-upgrade would only update package versions and libraries , it wont go to the next ubuntu version
[14:15] <szal> klawd: what's that for exactly?
[14:15] <klawd> szal: nforce drivers for my ethernet
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> klawd: got it, gimme a sec
[14:16] <klawd> ActionParsnip: ok, thank you
[14:16] <szal> klawd: be aware that this thing is 6 (!) years old and may not even run properly on a current OS
[14:17] <klawd> szal: it's the newest thing that nvidia provides
[14:17] <rabbi1> Friends, Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Device or resource busy .... any suggestions ?
[14:17] <phoque> is it true that I can simply select "Gnome" before logging in to get back the usual 10.10 look?
[14:18] <phoque> without having to install anything special
[14:18] <jrib> phoque: "classic", yes
[14:18] <szal> klawd: other than that, what do you need it for?  on my old ASUS board the Gbit LAN runs w/o problems w/o that driver
[14:18] <phoque> or "classic"
[14:18] <phoque> jrib, without any extra packages?
[14:18] <jrib> phoque: I believe so
[14:18] <phoque> cool, thanks
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> klawd: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/nvlan-suse10_0.60-2.21_amd64.deb
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> klawd: does the link work?
[14:19] <Abu-Aisha> how to change the size an image using shotwell photo viewer?
[14:19] <klawd> ActionParsnip: yes it does, thanks
[14:19] <rabbi1> Abu-Aisha: use Gimp.....
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> klawd: you got it down?
[14:19] <klawd> szal: my ethernet just won't work on that system
[14:19] <klawd> ActionParsnip: yes, thanks
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Abu-Aisha: can also use mogrify from imagemagick
[14:19] <Skilz> Why doesnt my Master volume work? Only PCM?
[14:20] <Skilz> alsa
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> klawd: cool, I'll delete it now
[14:20] <klawd> ActionParsnip: ok
[14:20] <Sidewinder1> Abu-Aisha, Gimp should be in the Repos.
[14:21] <rabbi1> Anybody kindly help me to solve my net problem "Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Device or resource busy"
[14:21] <Abu-Aisha> rabbi1, ActionParsnip, Sidewinder1, thanks
[14:21] <Sidewinder1> Abu-Aisha, If it didn't install automatically.
[14:21] <frog> Hello all, I need some pointers to install a secure remote desktop on my ubuntu box that's at home (i have root ssh access to it), i'm on a windows xp PC right now.
[14:21] <op1dot5> i need help :-(
[14:21] <Layke> I'm trying to 1) Set my keyboard layout to permanently stay USA, isntead of USA Alternative. But it keeps reverting back after a restart?
[14:21] <Sidewinder1> !ask > op1dot5
[14:22] <jrib> Layke: how are you trying?
[14:22] <Abu-Aisha> there really should be that feature in the default photo viewer though
[14:22] <Layke> jrib, I'm going through the desktop application, using "Keyboard" > Layouts
[14:22] <escott> !vnc | frog
[14:23] <Layke> jrib, then I am removing USA Alternative, and adding USA. Then saving.
[14:23] <Layke> It works for this session, until a restart.
[14:23] <rabbi1> Please help: "Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Device or resource busy"  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1820017
[14:23] <frog> thanx escott :)
[14:24] <op1dot5> on xubuntu dual monitor... my mous accross the monitor in external side
[14:25] <op1dot5> mouse
[14:25] <Simancas> hi, Where are the drivers for the wifi in ubuntu?
[14:25] <op1dot5> can i set dual monitor with path of mous accross internal side
[14:25] <op1dot5> ?
[14:25] <jrib> Layke: check permissions on ~/.gconf
[14:26] <Simancas> hi, Where are the drivers for the wifi in ubuntu?
[14:26] <Layke> jrib: layke:layke
[14:26] <wolfric_> does ubuntu write it's own man pages? like the one for grep?
[14:27] <jrib> Layke: figure out when gconf decides to record your settings to files there (i don't know offhand) and see why it isn't
[14:27] <Layke> Okay. Also..
[14:27] <jrib> wolfric_: probably not
[14:27] <wolfric_> i've spotted a small error. "line numbers" is "line  numbers" in a few places (2 spaces) which is quite annoying when you're searching for it.
[14:27] <wolfric_> Can i submit this anywhere to be fixed?
[14:27] <jrib> !bug | wolfric_
[14:27] <Layke> With new Ubuntu unity, without a taskbar, I'm finding it hard to find my active applications.. any pointers?
[14:27] <Simancas> In what system folder I can find drivers for the wifi?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Layke: enable the plugin in CCSM to show all windows using shortcut or screen corner, or use ALT+TAB
[14:29] <Simancas> In what system folder of ubuntu I can find drivers for the wifi?
[14:30] <frog> escott | all : I got tightvnc on the windows pc i'm sitting at, and enabled the vino-server on my distant ubuntu box (via ssh), but I get "failed to connect to server", with no helpful log... any idea ?
[14:31] <wolfric_> jrib: i've submitted one but i feel a bit silly submitting something that minor
[14:31] <rabbi1> Please help: "Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Device or resource busy"  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1820017
[14:31] <jrib> wolfric_: attach a patch :D
[14:31] <frog> btw, i'm currently behing the chinese firewall, could that be part of the problem?
[14:31] <Simancas> s.o.s  s.o.s s.o.s ------------------------------In what system folder of ubuntu I can find drivers for the wifi?
[14:31] <wolfric_> jrib: i don't have time sorry
[14:32] <wolfric_> jrib: i've no idea where the man pages are even stored, i'm working at the moment, not a bad idea when i get off
[14:32] <jrib> wolfric_: file the bug as someone else so you don't have to worry about feeling silly?
[14:32] <Goliath> i have a problem with grub. i just restored grub, and when the pc loads and grub screen is supposed to be shown, the monitor blackens says "input signal out of range". I press enter and ubuntu loads. What can i do?
[14:32] <klawd> szal: ok, that didn't help a bit. do you have any suggestions?
[14:33] <escott> frog, its not something i have ever done. all i can suggest is that you may need to modify your routers settings. keep in mind you can always install an X server on windows and ssh -X
[14:33] <Simancas> s.o.s  s.o.s s.o.s ------------------------------In what system folder of ubuntu I can find drivers for the wifi?
[14:33] <dr_willis> xming is a nice xserver for windows
[14:33] <emph> Hi, could use some help. When I start the livecd(or post-install via netinstall) all my graphics gets really garbled. Tried diffrent screens with no difference, this graphics card(ATI radeon something) has worked previously with debian so it should be supported.
[14:34] <frog> thanx escott and dr_willis , i'll try that :) btw, would it be better if i used my crunchbang-linux laptop ?
[14:34] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | emph
[14:35] <emph> Cheers, will try that and come back if it does not help!
[14:35] <dr_willis> frog i see no real need for most of the variants out there
[14:35] <escott> Goliath, /etc/default/grub contains options for setting video modes try those (you will need to chroot in and rerun update-grub after modifying this file)
[14:35] <jrib> Layke: did you check that your gconf key was changing?
[14:35] <Goliath> i have a problem with grub. i just restored grub, and when the pc loads and grub screen is supposed to be shown, the monitor blackens says "input signal out of range". I press enter and ubuntu loads. What can i do?
[14:36] <Simancas>  s.o.s  s.o.s s.o.s ------------------------------In what system folder of ubuntu I can find drivers for the wifi?
[14:36] <zkam> Hey all...  How much space do I need for the casper-rw to do persistent Ubuntu from USB?
[14:37] <dr_willis> Goliath:  edit the /etc/default/grub and change the res or mode the menu uses
[14:37] <h00k> zkam: you don't need a persistence file at all, if you don't want. as big as you'd like, I'm pretty sure.
[14:37] <Phylock> Simancas - which wifi devices?
[14:37] <escott> Simancas, /lib/modules but thats not the way people usually go about doing things
[14:37] <zkam> h00k, I want to do liveCD booting from USB, and make it persistent
[14:38] <Goliath> Hey i want to change the video resolution and frequency of grub2 bootscreen. how do i do that?
[14:38] <escott> zkam, depends on how much data/software you want to have/install
[14:38] <zkam> ideally, I want to be able to boot from USB drive, and also have extra space on that drive for Windows files
[14:38] <dr_willis> Goliath:  see what i said above
[14:38] <h00k> zkam: You can use the Startup Disk Creator in Ubuntu and adjust that way, or that file can be as big as the amount of space you'd like.
[14:38] <zkam> escott, not too much.  Probably Chrome, xchat, and some addons
[14:38] <Simancas> escott i only want cipy those drivers of ubuntu
[14:38] <Simancas> for the wifi
[14:39] <escott> Simancas, not likely to work. they are compiled for specific kernels
[14:39] <h00k> Simancas: they're 'built in' to the kernel, usually.
[14:39] <rabbi1> Unalbe to connect ot internet: "Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Device or resource busy"  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1820017
[14:39] <CLN84> Greetings, would someone help me find vim-gnome, I did "sudo apt-get install vim-gnome" and I can only find the console version of vim?
[14:40] <Simancas> escott i only want copy those wifi drivers for ubuntu
[14:40] <Simancas> of ubuntu
[14:40] <Guest95475> nickserv register 8524673 mllserv.adm@gmail.com
[14:41] <h00k> Guest95475: Change your password right away.
[14:41] <Goliath> dr_willis: ok i changed the res. should i run update-grub?
[14:41] <dr_willis> Goliath: ALLWAYS... ;)
[14:41] <Goliath> kk
[14:42] <dr_willis> Goliath:  no update no actual change
[14:42] <escott> !info gnome-vim | CLN84
[14:42] <rabbi1> Guest95475: Kindly visit freenode.org for complete information
[14:42] <Guest95475> help change password?
[14:42] <CLN84> ubottu, sry vim-gnome
[14:43] <escott> CLN84, you were right... the binary is gvim thats the confusion
[14:43] <CLN84> escott, thank you very much.
[14:43] <rabbi1> Guest95475: you got to use SET PASSWORD.... Don't type your password here.... check before you type www.freenode.org
[14:44] <Guest95475> ok, godbye
[14:44] <WordWarrior> can my Ubuntu 32Bit make use of all my 4 GB RAM
[14:44] <user82> how can i prevent one paticular partition from auto-mounting when plugged in?
[14:45] <KM0201> !pae | word
[14:45] <Guest65422> Excuse me,but can anybody noticed me ! I am using the IRC chat client first time in my life!
[14:45] <KM0201> man, what is it w/ people leaving 2sec after a question?..lol
[14:45] <KM0201> Guest65422: yes.. you're here
[14:45] <Guest65422> than you
[14:46] <Simancas> escott I really wanted to copy the drivers to install these in  LMDE or linuxmintdebian because I lost after updating these drivers win the wiffi, but is impossible for me
[14:46] <Guest65422> Now i have a question , can i ask it now ??
[14:46] <ikonia> Guest65422: just ask
[14:47] <escott> Simancas, as already indicated they are compiled for a specific kernel version. this is not likely to work
[14:47] <mikunos> Hi guys I have to install the headers. Is this command correct? sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) because I get the message Package not found
[14:47] <escott> !mint | Simancas and besides we don't support mint
[14:47] <mikunos> My kernel is 2.6.35-28-generic
[14:47] <escott> mikunos, linux-kernel-headers
[14:48] <Guest65422> i have ubuntu 10.10 installed !! and want to upgrade to 11.04 , i want to ask that will the update uninstall gnome ?
[14:48] <ikonia> Guest65422: it will update gnome and change the default shell to unity
[14:48] <redi4> I need to enable "LDM_DIRECTX" to "yes". Is there any "howto" for it? Because I cant google any :/ And the ltsp IRC is silent :/
[14:48] <Simancas> ubottu  linuxmint debian is a pure linux  , ubuntu isnt a pure linux
[14:48] <mikunos> escott: there si NO 2.6.35-28-generic!!! :o
[14:48] <rabbi1> Simancas: mean time you can post your probem in LinuxMint group under www.linkedin.com. you get lost of users who can respond
[14:49] <Dunhamzzz> I'm half way through upgrading my server from 10.04 , it asked if I wash to update /etc/securetty , should I do this ?
[14:49] <Guest65422> So i will have both unity and gnome as it is !! right ?
[14:49] <ikonia> Simancas: that's nothing to do with this channel
[14:49] <ikonia> Guest65422: no, you will have unity (that runs on gnome)
[14:49] <mikunos> any idea?
[14:49] <escott> !classic | Guest65422
[14:50] <Guest65422> Suppose i have my desktop configured with some graphics and some wallpapers,screenlets , will it be destroyed ??
[14:50] <Dunhamzzz> I'm half way through upgrading my ubuntu server from 10.04 to 10.10, it asked if I wanted to update /etc/securetty , should I do this ?
[14:50] <ikonia> Guest65422: if they are not compatible with unity, yes
[14:50] <ikonia> Dunhamzzz: yes
[14:50] <Simancas> ikonia is the best dictator of the world
[14:50] <rabbi1> Dunhamzzz: you really need to upgrade ?
[14:51] <Dunhamzzz> rabbi: not really, I'm pretty OCD about having the latest version of everything tho
[14:51] <ikonia> Dunhamzzz: that is a bad position to be in, it will cause you more problems
[14:51] <Guest65422> Can i run compiz with unity ?? what exactly unity is ??
[14:51] <Dunhamzzz> well ideally I want mysql 5.5
[14:52] <ikonia> Guest65422: I suggest you do some research on what unity actually is
[14:52] <mikunos> escott, any suggestion?
[14:52] <ikonia> Dunhamzzz: what's in 5.5 that you want
[14:52] <ikonia> Dunhamzzz: why >?
[14:52] <ikonia> !info mysql-server
[14:52] <escott> Guest65422, see the release notes, but unity does use compiz but not all compiz plugins work well with unity
[14:52] <Senix> Is Gnome3 offered in the Ubuntu repos?
[14:52] <ikonia> Dunhamzzz: 5.1 is in 11.04 so you're not going to get 5.5
[14:52] <escott> mikunos, i thought you just said that kernel version didn't exist?
[14:52] <Dunhamzzz> performance + innodb features
[14:52] <mikunos> escott yes
[14:52] <ryang> Could someone please help me with downgrading Ubuntu 11.04 to 10.04?
[14:52] <ikonia> Dunhamzzz: `which innodb features ?
[14:53] <escott> mikunos, just dpkg -l "*linux*" and you will see what versions are available
[14:53] <rabbi1> Dunhamzzz: i always prefere 0.4 and always LTS.....
[14:53] <ikonia> ryang: can't do it, clean install
[14:53] <escott> !downgrade | ryang
[14:53] <escott> !gnome3 | Senix
[14:53] <Guest65422> ok thank you vary much !! I think this is a better way to solve small problems than forums !
[14:53] <Senix> escii⚡ thanks
[14:53] <mikunos> escott: I don't understand how is it possible run a kernel and don't find any headers of that particular kernel
[14:54] <Senix> escott⚡ thanks
[14:54] <Senix> escii⚡ sorry, tab fail.
[14:54] <Dunhamzzz> ikonia I dunno I'm just experimenting, think babies first server
[14:54] <ikonia> mikunos: you don't need headers to run a compiled kernel
[14:54] <rabbi1> Dunhamzzz: my suggestion, do not screw up until April 2012 ....
[14:54] <ikonia> Dunhamzzz: then you shouldn't be using experimental software, sticking with LTS supported stable versions is the best option
[14:54] <Dunhamzzz> LTS?
[14:54] <mikunos> ikonia: yes I know but the Virtual Box needs the headers!
[14:54] <b4loobra> hey
[14:54] <escott> mikunos, not everyone needs the headers, they get pulled in by some packages and drivers, but not everyone has them
[14:54] <Dunhamzzz> !LTS
[14:55] <ikonia> mikunos: because it needs to build a module
[14:55] <Dunhamzzz> I see
[14:55] <Pici> Dunhamzzz: While mysql supports 5.5, 5.1 is the lastest version that I see in both Ubuntu and Debian.
[14:55] <mikunos> so how have I to do ?
[14:55] <emph> Ok so when I use nomodeset I start by seeing the loading which when done just turns into a black screen.
[14:55] <emph> Any clues?
[14:55] <Pici> Dunhamzzz: You should be just fine using 5.1
[14:55] <escott> mikunos, are the guest additions not dpkg'ed for you
[14:56] <mikunos> escott, I have found this with your dpkg ii  linux-image-2.6.35 2.6.35-28.50       Linux kernel image for version 2.6.35 on x86/x86_64
[14:56] <mikunos> now what have I to do?
[14:57] <Dunhamzzz> I know, curiosity and all that though, nothing even remotely important on this server
[14:57] <escott> mikunos, the version strings always match to the headers try dpkg -i linux-headers-2.6.35 and see what that does
[15:00] <rabbi1> Unalbe to connect ot internet: "Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Device or resource busy"  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1820017
[15:00] <mikunos> escott appear an error
[15:00] <Alexqw1> I am trying to update my Lucid box, but it is unable to download one of the packages:  linux-image-2.6.32-33-generic 2.6.32-33.72  it always is stuck at 82%.  I think the problem is that the package is only 30MB, but aptitude thinks it is 31.7 MB and is waiting for the rest... which doesn't exist.  Thoughts?
[15:00] <emph> radeon.modeset=0, is that equal to nomodeset?
[15:03] <szal> Alexqw1: sudo apt-get update
[15:03] <Alexqw1> szal: yep, I've done that.  It downloads 26.1 fo 31.7
[15:03] <Alexqw1> MB
[15:08] <rabbi1> ok, looks like most of the volunteers are busy. will screw up my ubuntu and get back to you guys.. until then... have a nice day......
[15:08] <koolhead17> is there a way to not automatically start apt-check?
[15:08] <koolhead17> hey jono
[15:08] <jono> hey koolhead17
[15:09] <kongo_86> hello all, hope all is good. i have  small prob. im running 10.04 x64. every so often my machine just locks up!! completely. i check the messages log and the kern.log and the last entry is always: kernel: imklog 4.2.0, log source = /proc/kmsg started any help please
[15:09] <escott> koolhead17, see if gnome-session-properties kicks it off
[15:09] <koolhead17> jono, who has come from ubuntu side 4 desktop summit? i would love to meet them
[15:09] <koolhead17> i met mark though
[15:10] <ole_oz7t> hello all from denmark
[15:11] <koolhead17> hi ole_oz7t
[15:11] <flips> does anyone have an upstart script/conf file that successfully launches/kill vnc4server (or some other vncserver) upon boot in Ubuntu 11.04? (Tried writing from scratch, and tried several Google hits, but none worked. Made an oldschool init.d script that worked when launched manually, but wouldn't work with when added using update-rc.d defaults/enable)
[15:12] <koolhead17> escii, aah that worked. my netbook dies once i log back in :P
[15:12] <ole_oz7t> koolhead17,  thank for answer
[15:12] <ole_oz7t> thanks
[15:14] <ole_oz7t> koolhead17,   where are you living ? i live i denmark near copenhagen
[15:14] <CLN84> Ubuntu not recognizing battery charge, keeps shutting down. any ideas?
[15:14] <paultrafalgar_> /dev/mmcblk3p5 is 1.21Gb of wasted space if I am never going to resurrect android (god forbid!) . can i reclaim it and use it to expand partition 6?
[15:14] <ole_oz7t> koolhead17,  can you work with c programming ?
[15:15] <koolhead17> ole_oz7t, am not a C programmer but i can help you in pointing correct document/scrrencast if you need help
[15:15] <ole_oz7t> koolhead17,  i have many problems
[15:16] <escott> paultrafalgar_, unless you use something like lvm you can't "expand" a partition across devices
[15:16] <ole_oz7t> koolhead17,  i am looking for a simply hello world source for showing hello world in graphic
[15:16] <paultrafalgar_> what about gparted?
[15:17] <rabbi1> Unalbe to connect ot internet: "Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Device or resource busy"  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1820017
[15:17] <ole_oz7t> koolhead17,  brainstorm has hd an idea #14431 but this program is not more there
[15:17] <mang0> Hey guys, I've just got the HumbleBundle3, and the only game that works is Hammerfight. The others don't do anything at all, don't even start. I tried running the binaries through terminal, and I got a missing libary message. I don't know what to do now....I can pase the missing libary if you like? Thanks :)
[15:18] <sumd> ole_oz7t, try http://zetcode.com/tutorials/gtktutorial/
[15:18] <Guest44466> i would like to learn about operating sytem did hear any one can guide me
[15:18] <ionite> i've connected my netbook to a larger LED screen. i can't switch the screen over properly????
[15:18] <koolhead17> ole_oz7t, define graphics
[15:18] <the-penguin> mang0: just install that missing library and it should work.. are you on 32 or 64 bit machine?
[15:18] <th0r> mang0: why don't you just install the missing lib?
[15:18] <luffy> hi
[15:18] <ole_oz7t> sumd,  thanks but i have big difficults to work with gtk  i am 75 hi hi
[15:18] <paultrafalgar_> escott what about gparted ? can delete partition 5 and expand space for 6 ?
[15:18] <rabbi1> ionite: kindly check your user manual...
[15:19] <luffy> hi every one
[15:19] <ole_oz7t> sumd,  i am looking for some simply source
[15:19] <the-penguin> hey luffy
[15:19] <escott> paultrafalgar_, sure if you previously partitioned your mmc device you could remove the partition and grow it
[15:19] <mang0> the-penguin: 32bit
[15:19] <Guest44466> did hear any one could guide me
[15:20] <mang0> th0r: because I don't know how to do that
[15:20] <the-penguin> mang0: what is the name of the missing lib?
[15:20] <ikonia> Guest44466: https://help.ubuntu.com
[15:20] <Guest44466> to learning in free operating system and learn and sink in this world
[15:20] <CLN84> Power statistics say battery is fully charged, but when I Disconnect AC cable it says its crittcly low and will power down.
[15:20] <sumd> ole_oz7t actually I haven't seen anything much simpler than that... :/
[15:21] <the-penguin> CLN84: defective battery... hardware problem, it's not a system glitch sorry
[15:21] <mang0> the-penguin: libmikmod.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:21] <ole_oz7t> sumd,  ok i try to look on google
[15:21] <escott> ionite, the method differs depending upon your graphics card. what kind of card do you have
[15:21] <CLN84> the-penguin, im sry but its a glitch.
[15:21] <mang0> the-penguin: that's the message it gives me when I try to run the binaries
[15:21] <ole_oz7t> all i must go coffee come later
[15:21] <Guest44466> no one
[15:22] <Guest44466> waw no one could help me
[15:22] <th0r> mang0: why not try this..."How can I install libmikmod.so.2?"
[15:22] <sumd> Hey, is there something like a second /etc/apt/sources.list?  apt-get tries to fetch stuff from sources not in that list...
[15:22] <ionite> escott: i did the usualy method of Function + Display buttons but both screen turned black!
[15:22] <the-penguin> mang0: okay, thanks, I take it you are running ubuntu?
[15:22] <Ruudjah> Hi! How can I remove the "mousewheelclick triggers paste" setting?
[15:23] <sunson> A client of mine is looking for a remote mail client which will fetch (and delete) mails from the mail server. the key requirement is that the client should allow syncing selective emails onto local host (windows outlook client). Any ideas / suggestions?
[15:23] <sunson> a web based mail client (like squirrelmail) is good too - but it would be preferable if the user interface is identical to outlook.
[15:23] <chv> hey, sorry, not sure where to ask this: what distro would you suggest for an old computer? P4, 512MB ram, it'll be used for internet, music, maybe some office stuff, I can't find an uptodate list of lightweight distros :(
[15:23] <sunson> chv: any distro should work
[15:23] <the-penguin> mang0: execute this on a command line < yum install libmikmod >
[15:23] <IdleOne> chv: try Lubuntu
[15:24] <Pici> the-penguin, mang0: There is no yum on Ubuntu.
[15:24] <chv> sunson: isn't the new gnome relatively heavy? If i was to go with the vanilla Ubuntu?
[15:24] <sunson> chv: music? :) production? or listening?
[15:24] <chv> sunson: listening
[15:24] <the-penguin> Pici : libmikmod.so.2 is a fedora library
[15:24] <escott> Ruudjah, in what application
[15:24] <chv> IdleOne: thanks, I'll have a look at that one
[15:24] <ionite> escott: i did the usualy method of Function + Display buttons but both screen turned black!
[15:25] <Ruudjah> all
[15:25] <the-penguin> Pici: just use apt-get instead of yum then... same syntax
[15:25] <escott> ionite, can't help unless you answer my earlier question
[15:25] <Pici> mang0: That file is in the libmikmod2 package.
[15:25] <Ruudjah> or disable middle mouse lick
[15:25] <the-penguin> CLN84: how old is the battery?
[15:25] <Ruudjah> *click*
[15:25] <mang0> Pici: Is it in the synaptic manager?
[15:26] <Pici> mang0: yes.
[15:26] <the-penguin> mang0: yes
[15:26] <mang0> sweet
[15:26] <ionite> escott: intel integrated mobile 6 series card
[15:26] <CLN84> the-penguin, less then 1 year.
[15:26] <sunson> chv: http://lightlinux.blogspot.com/2008/06/top-10-of-lightweight-linux_24.html
[15:26] <the-penguin> CLN84: are you a laptop or netbook?
[15:26] <Ruudjah> its causing me nightmares. Quick scrolling triggers a mouseclick on my mouse (and others),  causing to insert random text fragments into my code in my IDE..... it affects builds, comits etc
[15:26] <CLN84> the-penguin, laptop. HP DM4, its warranty is to expire in 2 months. I had to reinstall UBUNTU for the 3rd time, worked great on battery first 2 times.
[15:27] <chv> sunson: thanks
[15:27] <Obfuscation> @Ruudjah Take some time to learn the keyboard shortcuts for things you need
[15:27] <bot-nick> Obfuscation: Error: "Ruudjah" is not a valid command.
[15:27] <Ruudjah> Obfuscation: That's not the problem
[15:27] <Ruudjah> the problem is the mouse, and other mouses, in combination with ubuntu's default setting
[15:27] <the-penguin> CLN84: it really sounds like a hardware defect... how long do you usually charge it, like, if you charge it for 6 to 8 hours will it still die instantly?
[15:27] <escott> ionite, assuming you run unity hit the windows key and then type "display" an option for display settings should come up. that will allow you to  setup the other display
[15:28] <nixoninajar_1> hi
[15:28] <CLN84> the-penguin, it has been charging all night as normally would. Unplugged for several hours while I use it then charged again, but has not recognized it since new UBUNTU install.
[15:29] <the-penguin> CLN84: you run on ubuntu 11.04 now right?
[15:29] <nixoninajar_1> I need to install a new spell check dictionary for evolution mail, but it wont recognize aspell D:
[15:29] <nixoninajar_1> can anyone help _
[15:30] <mang0> the-penguin, Pici: I now get an error for this libary: libsmpg-0.4.so.0
[15:30] <CLN84> on AC power yes, last night I was running Ubuntu 11.04 and wanted to try Gnome 3 so I installed Fedora, quickly didn't like the difference (Fedora not gnome3) so I reinstalled Ubuntu and that is when the problem first started.
[15:30] <edfed> hello, how can i change ip?
[15:30] <CLN84> the-penguin, ^
[15:30] <edfed> like under dos
[15:30] <the-penguin> mang0: install libsmpg
[15:30] <mang0> right..
[15:31] <edfed> ipconfig release-all, ipconfig renew-all
[15:31] <the-penguin> CLN84: right, did you do an upgrade between the reinstall and now?
[15:31] <mang0> the-penguin: It's not in the syaptic
[15:31] <CLN84> the-penguin, upgrade to ubuntu?
[15:32] <mang0> can I use sudo apt-get?
[15:32] <chv> thanks sunson IdleOne
[15:32] <ChristopherNG> Does anyone know how I can output sound over HDMI to play the sound on my tv instead of my laptop, the picture is working ok, i would like the sound to come from the televison.
[15:32] <mang0> the-penguin: Just tried sudo apt-get libsmpg but it's not working...
[15:32] <the-penguin> mang0: go to the terminal and use <apt-cache search libsmpg> and see what comes up
[15:32] <mordof> is there a program for ubuntu that i can install that will allow certain styles of links in a webpage to launch an application on my computer?
[15:32] <mang0> okay
[15:32] <mordof> (ignore all implications of security risks, etc from my statement, lol.. it's local only)
[15:33] <Obfuscation> I don't think that HDMI is able to move sound from one platform to another like the PS3 and Xbox360. Never worked for me anyways
[15:33] <escott> ChristopherNG, have you gone to sound preferences and changed the output device to be the video card
[15:33] <the-penguin> CLN84: yes, usually and update/upgrade installs most of the hardware drivers etc. so that might fix it
[15:33] <mang0> the-penguin: Nothing happened.....
[15:33] <the-penguin> CLN84: run <sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade>
[15:33] <phillyj> escott: hey, thx for the he,lp yesterday; i got ubuntu running on the laptop now
[15:33] <ChristopherNG> escott: let me have a look
[15:33] <escott> phillyj, good
[15:34] <CLN84> the-penguin, yes when I installed I did the option to update, and after installation, the update was also done.
[15:34] <CLN84> the-penguin, i will brb
[15:34] <the-penguin> mang0: what about <apt-cache search libsmpeg> .. i think i did a spelling mistake.. sorry
[15:35] <frog> Hello again, it seems i forgot to activate remote desktop in my ubuntu box before I left home, and the "gconftool..." hack from ssh doesn't seem to do the trick... Any idea ?
[15:36] <apanda_> mordof i think you can do it with registering protocols and protocol handlers, i dont know how exactly tho
[15:37] <itilious> how can i get a panel to return from autohide?
[15:37] <itilious> I set panel to autohide but it does not return when I mouse over it,, i can still see the trace of it in autohide though, please help
[15:37] <mordof> apanda_: hm... troublesome. i'd more easily run shell_exec in PHP from an ajax call
[15:38] <escott> frog, if you could get the relevant x session variables/temp files/and connection keys you may be able to start the app from outside the session but have it attach to th running x server. its a fair bit of work though
[15:39] <mordof> apanda_: at the very least you've given me something to google to get somewhere :) thanks
[15:40] <phillyj> I'm trying to install the wireless driver with NDISwrapper and I'm having trouble with the driver extraction
[15:40] <phillyj> I get an error with file-roller saying "End-of-central-directory signature not found."
[15:41] <CLN84> the-penguin, no updates are available.
[15:41] <mang0> the-penguin: it's got libsmpeg0 and libsmpeg-dev
[15:41] <mang0> I need libsmpeg0 I suppose
[15:41] <the-penguin> mang0: correct
[15:42] <the-penguin> mang0: just install that and it should work
[15:42] <philinux> itilious: open a terminal and try killall gnome-panel
[15:42] <Hanacuk> Ïðèâåò âñåì
[15:42] <the-penguin> CLN84: run this <sudo modprobe pmu_battery> and tell me if there's an output
[15:42] <itilious> philinux, tried, didnt work
[15:43] <iderik> If I do "cat * || grep "handshake". How can I see which line is coming from what file? Thanks
[15:43] <mang0> the-penguin: How do I install a libary from terminal? <sudo apt-get libsmpeg0>?
[15:43] <CLN84> the-penguin, FATAL: Module pmu_battery not found.
[15:43] <mordof> apanda_: ah! it appears it's actually fairly simple :) though i have to make a quick script that will launch stuff for me based on the link passed
[15:43] <the-penguin> itilious: use sudo
[15:43] <itilious> the-penguin, i did
[15:43] <apanda_> mordof yep that was what i was thinking about too
[15:43] <itilious> stil nothing
[15:43] <the-penguin> mang0: yes, but leave out the < and the >
[15:43] <the-penguin> CLN84: there you go... that's your problem :)
[15:44] <itilious> also, when ubuntu starts randomly I will not have windows controls and must type "compiz --replace" to get them back, maybe issue is related?
[15:44] <escott> frog, see http://giantdorks.org/alain/attach-to-an-existing-gdm-session-with-vnc-over-ssh/
[15:44] <mang0> the-penguin: Ofc I'll leave out the < and >, I'm not quite that big a noob, I can use terminal ;)
[15:44] <mordof> apanda_: a simple bash script that would execute the string blindly as provided would be sufficient, would it not?
[15:44] <mordof> apanda_: it's purely for my own personal use
[15:44] <the-penguin> mang0: haha, just checking, sorry XD
[15:44] <mang0> :P
[15:45] <mordof> apanda_: since i wouldn't be forcing different permissions, but just using my regular user permissions for stuff it shouldn't technically be a security risk at all
[15:45] <apanda_> mordof if you want to go with that, yes. i only see problems passing urlencoded parameters
[15:45] <mang0> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[15:45] <mordof> apanda_: ah, then a quick string parse to change them to command line args would be sufficient
[15:45] <the-penguin> mang0: well... is another process using it?
[15:46] <mordof> apanda_: you raise a good point there
[15:46] <iderik> If I do "cat * || grep "handshake". How can I see which line is coming from what file? Thanks
[15:46] <CLN84> the-penguin, how do I resolve this issue if I cannot use modprobe
[15:46] <jrib> iderik: the answer to your question is: you can't.  You should do it differently: grep handshake *
[15:46] <rumpe1> iderik, try "grep -r handshake ."
[15:46] <mang0> the-penguin: If I don't have it how can another process be using it?
[15:47] <mordof> apanda_: only problem is i'm -very- rusty with my bash scripting :\ not sure where to start, lol
[15:47] <dgags> rumpe1: have you looked at the man page for grep to see if it has a command line switch to do that? 'man grep'
[15:47] <the-penguin> mang0: no, no, that means that another process is using apt-get... apt-get can only do one task at a time
[15:47] <shafee> Anybody know how to adjust launcher icon size in unity 2D ?
[15:47] <Triscar0> how do i search to find a folder?
[15:47] <the-penguin> CLN84: looking into it now
[15:47] <dgags> crap, sorry I meant to adress that to iderik
[15:48] <mang0> the-penguin: synaptic package manager was open, I'm trying again
[15:48] <CLN84> the-penguin, thank you, me too. all I see so far is what you told me in other forums.
[15:48] <synackfin> what's a good text-based (not X11) csv-editor ?
[15:48] <the-penguin> mang0: yea, that would have probably been it
[15:48] <the-penguin> CLN84: yea, it seems to be a kernel bug
[15:48] <dhruvasagar> Hi, I did a fresh install of 11.04, I notice that videos (on vlc) often gets stuck on frames, the audio moves smoothly, just the video jitters often
[15:48] <auronandace> synackfin: nano
[15:48] <rumpe1> synackfin, vim
[15:49] <shafee> Triscar0: locate <file name>
[15:49] <kush> es
[15:49] <mordof> dhruvasagar: have you tried other video players?
[15:49] <phillyj> guys, i'm trying to install the wifi driver with NDISwrapper but I get an error when trying to extract the driver exe file
[15:49] <CLN84> the-penguin, re-install then?
[15:49] <Triscar0> thnx shafee
[15:49] <intrader> Anyone, trying to understand reinstalled 10.10. During installation, partitioning it found an NTFS partition, and a 31GB linux; I ended up with a smaller  NTFS, the old 31GB linux and the rest a newly installed linux. The old linux shows in Places as 31GB an is viewable. I want to recover the configuration of the Chrome browser. How do I do that?
[15:49] <dhruvasagar> mordof: no...
[15:49] <shafee> np
[15:49] <mordof> dhruvasagar: give them a try
[15:50] <mordof> dhruvasagar: some players respond differently for different filetypes
[15:50] <mordof> sometimes
[15:50] <dhruvasagar> mordof: hmmm but can't I fix vlc ?
[15:50] <mordof> dhruvasagar: maybe, maybe not.. i don't know what the problem is
[15:50] <the-penguin> CLN84: it might actually be the easiest way, if you have the time then you should totally do it
[15:50] <Goliath> hey
[15:50] <Goliath> how can i find what wifi apapter i have? what is the command?
[15:50] <dhruvasagar> mordof: totem seems to be doing better
[15:50] <usr13> Goliath: lspci
[15:50] <CLN84> the-penguin lol 10 minutes compared to learning how to recompile the kernel, and install it without causing panic... :-)
[15:50] <phillyj> dhruvasagar: could it be hardware problem?
[15:50] <Triscar0> i installed john the ripper thru apt-get and i cant find the instalation folder, trying to crack my lock code on my N900
[15:50] <synackfin> auronandance/rumpe1: those don't help with 104 column csvs
[15:51] <dhruvasagar> phillyj: how so ?
[15:51] <dhruvasagar> mordof: totem isn't doing fine
[15:51] <usr13> Goliath: lspci  #and look for a line that says Wireless or something to that effect.
[15:51] <dhruvasagar> phillyj: this is a new laptop...
[15:51] <rumpe1> synackfin, depends, what you try to accomplish. vim has perl and python integrated, so it's pretty flexible
[15:51] <mordof> dhruvasagar: mplayer has always worked for me
[15:51] <the-penguin> usr13: just use grep o.O
[15:51] <mordof> dhruvasagar: i use that for most files, simply because totem won't work for some
[15:51] <mordof> dhruvasagar: and i plain don't like vlc
[15:52] <the-penguin> CLN84: okay, that would work. I can give you my email so you can let me know how it works out?
[15:52] <sadmicrowave> hey guys, is there a place I can download the raw Bisigi desktop themes without adding a repository and requesting a key through my terminal? (my corporate firewall has blocked most all key requests)
[15:52] <dhruvasagar> mordof: why? i've been using vlc for a very long long time
[15:52] <sumd> so nobody who knows how to stop apt from fetching stuff not in sources.list??
[15:52] <dhruvasagar> mordof: installing mplayer, haven't used it so much
[15:52] <usr13> the-penguin: Not sure what that would do...
[15:52] <jrib> synackfin: I've used a curses spreadsheet program in the past but I neither recall whether it could edit csv files nor its name
[15:52] <CLN84> the-penguin, sry i answered your MSG, but it said you were away, yes i can do that.
[15:52] <mordof> dhruvasagar: on windows i always used media player classic. i guess just because vlc has never worked as well, i don't consider it to be that great
[15:52] <Goliath> tu
[15:53] <philinux> itilious: You could try turning compiz off and if that doesn't work then this will reset the panels back to their default. You loose any custom launchers etc. gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[15:53] <Goliath> ty
[15:53] <rumpe1> sumd, theres sources.list and there are the sources.list.d-sources...
[15:53] <dhruvasagar> mordof: vlc has actually always worked well for me
[15:53] <the-penguin> usr13: lspci | grep wireless just takes the output from lspci and looks for the word wireless
[15:53] <Triscar0> i installed john the ripper thru apt-get and i cant find the instalation folder, trying to crack my lock code on my N900, anybody know where to find it ?
[15:53] <dhruvasagar> mordof: although the new system i've bought has been giving me some troubles with respect to the graphics card drivers (nvidia), so somehow I feel that is responsible
[15:54] <babilen> the-penguin: You typically want "lspci -nn|grep -i network"
[15:54] <CLN84> how do i uninstall with apt-get?
[15:54] <Gateway`> Hello everybody, how can I make a route for openvpn on my firewall server (iptables) for 10.8.0.0/32
[15:54] <Gateway`> thanks
[15:54] <mang0> the-penguin: Awesome! Thanks :D
[15:54] <Pici> Triscar0: dpkg -L john
[15:54] <babilen> CLN84: apt-get remove or apt-get purge, read "man apt-get"
[15:54] <the-penguin> CLN84: right, i'm still away lol
[15:54] <CLN84> the-penguin, okay :-)
[15:54] <jrib> synackfin: I was thinking of "sc", but don't know about the abliity to edit csv files
[15:54] <the-penguin> CLN84: sudo apt-get remove _package_
[15:54] <mordof> dhruvasagar: hm. can't help with much of the technical problems. with stuff like this if i find an alternative is working fine, i simply use that
[15:54] <the-penguin> CLN84: actually use <sudo apt-get purge "package">
[15:55] <the-penguin> babilen: yes, your right, i was just giving an example :)
[15:55] <dhruvasagar> mordof: trying that myself
[15:55] <CLN84> ty
[15:56] <the-penguin> mang0: it worked?
[15:56] <usr13> the-penguin: lspci | grep ireless
[15:56] <mang0> the-penguin: Yup :)
[15:56] <the-penguin> mang0: great that's what i like to hear, does the game work now?
[15:57] <usr13> the-penguin: But even that will miss some of them.
[15:57] <the-penguin> usr13: <lspci -nn|grep -i network> works better :)
[15:57] <phillyj> what does it mean when "unzip" says "xxxx.exe may be a plain executable, not an archive"
[15:58] <szal> phillyj: it means what it says
[15:58] <dhruvasagar> phillyj: it means you should be using wine instead
[15:58] <Trashi> hi guys. my ubuntu doesnt like my microphon (internal and external). i added a specific line to the alsa-base.conf following a alsa-configuration-tutorial. could someone help me to configure my sound device thus i can use my mic?
[15:58] <Dulak> phillyj: it doesn't think the .exe file you fed it is a self-extracting archive, it thinks it's just a plain executable file.
[15:59] <the-penguin> Trashi: I just had this game yesterday, try using alsamixer. turning the boosts down and the inputs up
[15:59] <the-penguin> Trashi: that's on terminal btw
[15:59] <genii-around> phillyj: It may be a self-extracting file
[15:59] <jrib> synackfin: maybe try http://code.google.com/p/csvfix/ though it's not packaged in ubuntu's repositories
[15:59] <Trashi> the-penguin: jep i know it ... will try .. thx
[15:59] <frog> escott: yaaay thank you so much for the link, you really made my day and saved me from the great firewall !! if you come to china in the next 4 weeks, i owe you a beer :D
[15:59] <phillyj> Dulak: hmm, its the driver file for my wi-fi but if i can't extract it, how do i use NDISwrapper?
[16:00] <sumd> rumpe1 thanks, that's what I was searching for :)
[16:00] <escott> frog, booking my flight now ;)
[16:00] <mang0> the-penguin: Yeah game works :D Thanks man
[16:00] <the-penguin> phillyj: use ndisgtk
[16:00] <the-penguin> mang0: no problem, glad i could help
[16:00] <Dulak> phillyj: use wine to run the .exe file and hope it will extract
[16:02] <the-penguin> phillyj: use wine to "install" then just look for the .inf file in the wine directorys and then install the wireless using that .inf file
[16:02] <Pat201> anyone here have experience with bleachbit?
[16:02] <the-penguin> Pat201: a bit, whats wrong?
[16:03] <Pat201> when its cleaning my system, im getting tons of error number 13 messages, basically the program is denied permission to clean certain areas of the computer
[16:04] <intrader> Anyone, trying to understand reinstalled 10.10. During installation, partitioning found an NTFS partition, and a 31GB linux; I ended up with a smaller  NTFS, the old 31GB linux and the rest a newly installed linux. The old linux shows in Places as 31GB an is viewable. I want to recover the configuration of the Chrome browser. How do I do that?
[16:04] <edbian> Pat201: It's unnecessary to run something like bleachbit on linux.  If you sudo bleachbit thought it wont' get stuck (but might do major damage)
[16:05] <thorn> ##monolith
[16:06] <usr13> Pat201: Probably best to do stuff like that on your own.  Apps like that that try to guess what needs to be done, may guess wrong, <IMHO>
[16:07] <JimmyNeutron> Is there a way to send/receive files from Empathy and Windows Live Messenger?
[16:07] <JimmyNeutron> I can't receive any file.
[16:07] <usr13> JimmyNeutron: I just use email.
[16:08] <phillyj> the-penguin: well, i use wine and got a bunch of .bin, .ini., setup.exe files but no .inf file
[16:09] <ir-decoy> 二
[16:09] <JimmyNeutron> usr13, I guess that means no.  Thanks!
[16:10] <grillermo> is there a way to grep the list thats comes out when you hit tab two times on bash, i'm looking for a particular command
[16:10] <usr13> NO, just means that email is a truly awesome social networking tool.
[16:10] <usr13> (Only one you need)
[16:10] <edbian> grillermo: ls /usr/bin/ | grep 'something'
[16:10] <edbian> grillermo: That's not all executables but it's most of them
[16:11] <jrib> grillermo: on zsh I can do something like *foo*<tab><tab>, not sure if that works in bash
[16:11] <BluesKaj>  social networking tool ...I have one too , it's called my voice :) ...email is just mail
[16:12] <grillermo> oh
[16:12] <grillermo> thanks guys
[16:12] <the-penguin> jrib: yep, should work in bash, i use it all the time
[16:12] <escott> grillermo, or echo $PATH | sed -e "s/:/ /g" | xargs ls | grep gnome
[16:12] <JimmyNeutron> usr13, Email is great but overkill when u just want to send random pix every now and then
[16:12] <UpAllNightBrain> Getting this error in Transmission, installed transmission via Ubuntu.  Default settings.  Can't figure out whats wrong. Error: No such file or directory (/var/lib/transmission-daemon/downloads/*
[16:12] <JimmyNeutron> and more hassle through web email
[16:13] <the-penguin> phillyj: run the setup.exe in wine too, then look for .inf again
[16:13] <Lasers> UpAllNightBrain: The directory /var/lib/transmission-daemon/downloads/ does not exist?
[16:13] <grillermo> thanks escott jrib edbian
[16:13] <edbian> grillermo: sure
[16:13] <usr13> JimmyNeutron: Was just my opinion.  in other words, email works for me, it's [just] what I use.
[16:13] <UpAllNightBrain> It does actually, I checked with the file manager.
[16:14] <Lasers> UpAllNightBrain: Try #transmission-bt
[16:14] <phillyj> the-penguin: no good, it crashes
[16:14] <UpAllNightBrain> Lasers, Ok thanks.
[16:14] <Lasers> UpAllNightBrain: #transmission <-- :)
[16:14] <UpAllNightBrain> Lasers, Oh.
[16:14] <the-penguin> phillyj: dang... what kind of wifi card/chip/thingy do you have?
[16:16] <phillyj> the-penguin: ralink rt5390
[16:18] <phillyj> the-penguin: hmm, i found some things in google
[16:18] <the-penguin> okay, if you find a .inf file.. just try it ... there's no harm in it lo
[16:19] <ItBlends> what the heck is this about? WARNING **: Unable to create Ubuntu Menu Proxy: Error connecting: Connection refused
[16:21] <odie5533> is there a way to get the current time from the console?
[16:21] <th0r> odie5533: date?
[16:24] <odie5533> th0r: thanks
[16:25] <apanda_> whats the best way to make the file "/sys/devices/virtual/backlight/sony/brightness" permanently writeably by anyone? it seems to be recreated at reboots or something
[16:26] <drvladimirtzu> For some reason, no matter how many times I change chrominium to my default browser from within chrominium, the changes won't stick.
[16:27] <|Slacker|> drvladimirtzu: have you tried to change it from ubuntu settings?
[16:28] <drvladimirtzu> Nope.  It did occur to me, but I was more curious as to why it wouldn't work from within chrome then worried about actually doing it. haha
[16:28] <spencer> I 'm in the processes of picking DB for the Web and was going to go with MySQL. However, the future doesn't look to bright for MySQL. Any suggestions for DB?
[16:29] <jrib> spencer: pgsql probably
[16:29] <emmkai> hey guys
[16:29] <joaolucas> Hello
[16:29] <spencer> jrib, pgsql is more than I need.
[16:30] <emmkai> i need help using remote desktop in ubuntu 11.04
[16:30] <mordof> apanda_: there :D made it so that it recieves the string in (mostly) normal URL form. it replaces all & with a space, so simply anything between those gets output. it doesn't do anything in terms of adding characters to make them command line args, simply because then i can do stuff like app?-user&mordof  and have it execute `app -user mordof`  ^-^
[16:30] <drvladimirtzu> Actually, oddly enough, from within the Ubuntu preferences, it shows chrominium as the default browser.  But if I click a link from an im window or something, and chrome isn't open, it won't open it.  And every time I start chrome, it tells me its not the default browser and prompts me to make it such.
[16:30] <Reaper> what is the terminal command to search for packages. like xchat?
[16:30] <joaolucas> How're you doing?
[16:30] <mordof> apanda_: now just to register the protocol and hope that it works in prism, lol
[16:30] <jrib> spencer: it's pretty comparable to mysql.  Were you thinking of something like sqlite?
[16:30] <Pici> Reaper: apt-cache search
[16:30] <Reaper> thaxn
[16:30] <Reaper> er thanx
[16:30] <joaolucas> There's someone from brazil?
[16:31] <xangua> !pt | joaolucas
[16:31] <|Slacker|> me
[16:31] <emmkai> can anyone help me with remote desktop under ubuntu 11.04 ?
[16:31] <seanmc98> thanks for all you rhelp guys I got GRUB re-installed
[16:31] <joaolucas> !pt
[16:31] <spencer> jrib, yes, but from what read it does well if you do reads only
[16:32] <dr_willis> emmkai,  clarify to the channel what you are doing and what you need help with exactly.
[16:34] <jrib> spencer: those are the only ones I've played with
[16:35] <emmkai> ok, i have a remote computer, that is VPN connected to my local network, i can ping it actually. I've asked a person at the site to enable the remote desktop feature, but when i try to connect i get a dialog that says: Connection to host XX.XX.XX.XXX was closed.
[16:35] <spencer> jrib, what did you think of SQLite?
[16:37] <jrib> spencer: worked ok for what I did.  It has the advantage of not requiring an external server like mysql or pgsql
[16:37] <jrib> spencer: maybe try their channel to see if your use-case is appropriate
[16:37] <zlude> hello! how can i set password on su? example "su <user> -pPASSWORD
[16:37] <spencer> jrib, what one do you use now?
[16:38] <jrib> spencer: none :D
[16:38] <Crazy> did anyonr
[16:38] <zlude> any ideas?
[16:38] <rumpe1> zlude, do you want to activate the "root"-account?
[16:39] <dr_willis> I thought you supplied the users password when you su'd to that user? unless you were root..
[16:39] <dr_willis> been a whild since i last needed su.
[16:40] <dr_willis> zlude,  you mean you need to script the automation of su -, so it dosent ask for the password. but takes it from the command line?
[16:41] <emmkai> i really need some help because i am lost
[16:42] <Monster123> Ok I'm having trouble installing ubuntu
[16:42] <Monster123> I have used 3 disks
[16:42] <dr_willis> emmkai,  i know very little about vpn's so cant really help much.  What os and remote desktop are you using on the vpn?
[16:42] <Monster123> and tried a flash drive
[16:42] <Monster123> none have got past the first boot screen
[16:42] <emmkai> both remote and local machine is 11.04 ubuntu
[16:42] <Monster123> Now, this is a new computer
[16:43] <Monster123> 64bit
[16:43] <dr_willis> Monster123,  #1 - whats your video card/chipset.
[16:43] <Monster123> intel HD graphics
[16:44] <dr_willis> so its a 'brand new' just released laptop? just came out recently.  or has the make/model been out for a while?
[16:44] <endip> Is there a quick/easy way to disable the synaptic touchpad (that doesn't require a restart)? Something like synclient touchpadoff=1 ??
[16:44] <escott> !enter | Monster123
[16:44] <Monster123> the model is a 2010, just brought
[16:45] <Monster123> The thing is, I don't want to used wubi, I really want ubuntu on another partition
[16:45] <escott> endip, xinput can disable entire input devices
[16:46] <Monster123> It's 64bit, so i'm guessiot ng 32bit iso would not work, correct?
[16:46] <dr_willis> Monster123,  32bit os works fine on a 64bit cpu.
[16:47] <endip> escott not familiar with xinput
[16:47] <dr_willis> well for most all the 64bit cpus out..
[16:47] <Monster123> Right, I see
[16:47] <nipul> sudo apt-get install telepathy-sofiasip telepathy-butterfly telepathy-idle libtelepathy-farsight0 python-tpfarsigh
[16:47] <mocca_cappucino> #linuxjambi
[16:47] <andyfied> hey everybody
[16:47] <dr_willis> Monster123,  You did check the md5sum of the ISO you downloaded?  (starting with the most common problems)
[16:47] <skegeek> Anyone use EHCP with externally hosted email??
[16:48] <Monster123> No, in fact, I don't even know what that is
[16:48] <Monster123> I thought the problem lies with the media
[16:48] <Monster123> i.e disk and pen drive
[16:48] <skegeek> Easy Hosting Control Panel
[16:48] <dr_willis> !md5sum
[16:48] <escott> endip, i don't know what the command would be, i just know it can be done. you will have to rtfm sorry
[16:48] <dr_willis> Monster123,  #1 step would be to verify the iso you downloade is correct.    then verify the cd's you burnt match the same md5sum.
[16:49] <endip> escott, No problem, I'm rtfm right now ;-)
[16:49] <skegeek> Also, I checked that Unity is installed, however it the only option I have is Gnome. How do I actually select to use Unity?
[16:49] <Monster123> right ok thank you, I'm on it :0
[16:49] <Monster123> :)*
[16:49] <endip> escott, do you happen to know if you can make changes on the fly without restarting?
[16:50] <Monster123> I've already used all my disks D:
[16:50] <Monster123> hope the flash drive works
[16:50] <andyfied> skegeek: system settings log in screen
[16:50] <escott> endip, absolutely
[16:51] <andyfied> skegeek: change the default session to user defined and then you can pick at log in
[16:51] <mordof> it would appear registring protocol handlers for firefox/prism is more tedious than i thought. anyone know how i'd go about getting a custom protocol handler for prism set up?
[16:51] <mordof> the about:config doesn't seem to stick
[16:51] <Monster123> !mdsum
[16:51] <CLN84> the_penguin isn't here anymore :-\
[16:52] <h00k> !md5sum | Monster123 :)
[16:52] <ivanuuuko59> olaa
[16:52] <spasysheep> how would I remove any line that started with a certain string from a text file?
[16:52] <cheetos> pene?
[16:52] <Monster123> thanks hook :0
[16:52] <ivanuuuko59> cipote
[16:52] <ivanuuuko59> sĺgfga
[16:52] <cheetos> brrrr yea
[16:53] <Monster123> ok i'm going use a pen drive to install ubuntu
[16:53] <ivanuuuko59> bloomfentein
[16:53] <Monster123> is it safe?
[16:53] <dr_willis> spasysheep,  sed, or awk are designed for such tasks.
[16:53] <cheetos> es muy chido
[16:53] <Monster123> I mean, I need to devide my HHD into two partitions
[16:53] <ivanuuuko59> no sera muy padre
[16:53] <Monster123> Hope it doesn't mess up windows
[16:53] <cheetos> no muy chebere
[16:53] <dr_willis> Monster123,  when in doubt.. make backups of course..
[16:53] <andyfied> Monster123: should be safe if it works
[16:53] <ivanuuuko59> huabababua
[16:54] <cheetos> los guerreros de bronx
[16:54] <llutz> spasysheep: sed -i '/pattern/d' file
[16:54] <ivanuuuko59> huabababua
[16:54] <emmkai> guys, i really am desperate
[16:54] <dr_willis> Monster123,  if its that critical. you could just try virtualbox and run ubuntu in it.
[16:54] <cheetos> nooooooo
[16:54] <cheetos> nenea
[16:54] <spasysheep> dr_willis, llutz: thanks
[16:55] <dr_willis> emmkai,  if both box's are ubuntu/linux why not just ssh to the remote box and do what you need. theres no need to mess with a complete virtual desktop feature of gnome.
[16:55] <Monster123> dr_willis ahh good idea. That's something I will try...I've never used virtual machines before
[16:56] <dr_willis> Monster123,  you can also boot the iso in vbox. and see if it works.  be sure to get the latest vbox version
[16:56] <Monster123> dr_willis brilliant idea!
[16:56] <spasysheep> why does piping grep into rm give a missing operand error?
[16:56] <dr_willis> its how i test out all the new live cd's i get.
[16:57] <emmkai> dr_willis: so if i can ping the computer (ping XX.XX.XX.XXX), i will simply do ssh connection like so: ssh username@XX.XX.XX.XXX
[16:57] <GALAMAR> Hello. What is the backtrack5 channel. Sorry i cant seach right now, using jmirc.
[16:57] <llutz> spasysheep: what was the exact command?
[16:57] <Pici> spasysheep: because rm doesn't take input via stdin.
[16:57] <dr_willis> emmkai,  in theory yes.. you could have just tried it in the time its taken you to ask and me to reply... :)
[16:57] <emmkai> I did try it, only confirming it was the right method, i get this... :     ssh: connect to host XX.XX.XX.XXX port 22: No route to host
[16:58] <dr_willis> emmkai,  does ping that same ip# work?
[16:58] <intrader> Anyone, trying to understand reinstalled 10.10. During installation, partitioning found an NTFS partition, and a 31GB linux; I ended up with a smaller  NTFS, the old 31GB linux and the rest a newly installed linux. The old linux shows in Places as 31GB an is viewable. I want to recover the configuration of the Chrome browser. How do I do that?
[16:58] <Monster123> dr_willis a live cd has never worked a second time for me :/
[16:59] <emmkai> PING XX.XX.XX.XXX (XX.XX.XX.XXX) 56(84) bytes of data.
[16:59] <spasysheep> Pici: ok, is there an easy way to delete a big list of files output by grep?
[16:59] <emmkai> 64 bytes from 10.12.24.230: icmp_req=1 ttl=63 time=19.0 ms
[16:59] <noneabove1182> hey escott, so as you predicted the disk check last night didnt work
[16:59] <yokobr> hi guys.. I have a GMA 950, and i740 driver installed. Can i install i965 driver?
[16:59] <spasysheep> llutz: cat duplicate_files.txt | grep './unsorted' | rm
[16:59] <llutz> spasysheep: use xargs rm
[16:59] <spasysheep> llutz: huh?
[16:59] <Dulak> spasysheep: | xargs rm
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> yokobr: its in a default install
[16:59] <Dulak> spasysheep: not | rm
[17:00] <llutz> spasysheep: grep "./unsorted" files.txt |xargs rm
[17:00] <escott> intrader, you are going to have to copy files out of ~/.chrome or ~/.config/chrome depending on where it is. I can't tell you what files or where. alternately you could chroot into your system and try and use whatever chromes export mechanism is (assuming it exists)
[17:00] <escott> noneabove1182, sorry i dont remember anything from last night
[17:00] <spasysheep> Dulak, llutz: thanks. does xargs rm take the same options etc as normal rm?
[17:00] <emmkai> dr_willis: i really dont care alot to drive 500 km to fix a computer
[17:00] <llutz> spasysheep: yes
[17:00] <yokobr> ActionParsnip, it's a fresh install. It came with i740 intel driver installed, but i wanna know if i can install i965 driver, since i have a gma 950 graphic card
[17:00] <emmkai> :p
[17:00] <surfdue> For some reason bash now does not recognize any command, like date, or cd or anything
[17:01] <spasysheep> llutz: k
[17:01] <surfdue> correction, recognizes cd, just not date or git
[17:01] <noneabove1182> escott too drunk? haha no jk, im the one with the problem of my ubuntu freezing during startup on wubi and not doing anything when i boot off usb
[17:01] <intrader> escott, chroot, how do
[17:01] <llutz> spasysheep: xargs is just a "wrapper" to translate stdin to program which cannot handle that by default
[17:01] <noneabove1182> escott http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6128/imag0409q.jpg this is what i get for wubi
[17:01] <intrader> escott, chroot, how do I change it back; by the dev?
[17:02] <drvladimirtzu> How can I put the Places and System menus as sub menus of applications to save some taskbar space?
[17:02] <Dulak> spasysheep: xargs takes a list and runs the command you supply (rm) on each item in the list, so yes, you can use any option for rm you normally would.  ex: cat file_list.txt | xargs rm -rf
[17:02] <escott> noneabove1182, the evergreen card. you should try nomodeset
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> yokobr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662812/    I'm not kidding
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> yokobr: 965?
[17:03] <escott> intrader, you should try copying files out of the chrome settings folder first
[17:03] <noneabove1182> escott yea that was what you suggested last night, and i tried doing what you said but it wasnt doing the same stuff.. also this is what i get from usb for the record : http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/814/imag0406y.jpg/
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> yokobr: may help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=731476
[17:04] <spasysheep> llutz, Dulak: gah. the file paths have a load of spaces in them, so rm chucks out a load of 'No such file or directory' errors
[17:04] <monster9200> Ok It's booted into a VB
[17:04] <intrader> escott, I will do that, thanks - why did it save the old one?
[17:04] <monster9200> the thing is, it's not showoing the unity
[17:04] <escott> noneabove1182, so you replaced splash with nomodeset then what happened
[17:04] <monster9200> just the old gnome desktop
[17:04] <gerdi> i cant resize windows in 11.4 using unity ..
[17:04] <Dulak> spasysheep: sec you have to use nulls to seperate them
[17:04] <noneabove1182> escott it started up exactly the same
[17:04] <Mrokii> Does somebody know a possible reason why I don't hear the voice of somebody when they call me on Skype?
[17:04] <noneabove1182> escott and got stuck at same screen
[17:04] <mordof> apanda_: buahaha, success is mine :D
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> yokobr: also http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Graphics_Media_Accelerator_X3100
[17:05] <escott> intrader, you probably said install alongside windows, and so it shrank the windows partition and left the ubuntu untouched
[17:05] <spasysheep> Dulak: nulls?
[17:05] <monster9200> and in theory...once I install this ISO to a flash drive it should work
[17:05] <llutz> spasysheep: grep -Z "./unsorted" files.txt |xargs -0 rm
[17:05] <intrader> escott, thanks
[17:05] <noneabove1182> escott brb i gotta go do something
[17:05] <gerdi> the windows always fix to the top left hand corner behind the top toolbar .. why?
[17:05] <spasysheep> llutz: ok, thanks
[17:05] <mordof> apanda_: took a bit of doing, but finally figured out how to register the new protocol in prism, got devilspie on my localhost web app to set my custom page as my desktop background :D
[17:06] <Dulak> spasysheep: yes so it will use a null byte to seperate list items,  You can do it very easy with find, not sure how with cat, I'm looking
[17:06] <gerdi> #ubuntu-beginners
[17:06] <rabbi1> Can anybody help me connect my 3g modem....?
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> gerdi: default settings..
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: run:   lsusb   the 8 character hex ID will help you find guides
[17:06] <llutz> Dulak: grep -Z  and it definetly needs no cat :)
[17:07] <coffieman> hey is there any channel for pishing
[17:07] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: I have been trying that ... no luck
[17:07] <coffieman> related topics
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: what is the ID?
[17:07] <h00k> ubottu: tell coffieman about alis
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: and do you have usb-modeswitch installed?
[17:08] <mordof> I'm using twinview - anyone know a way to get icons to default to the right monitor?
[17:08] <h00k> coffieman: we do not support those activities here.
[17:08] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: "Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Device or resource busy" This is what i get....
[17:08] <Dulak> llutz: yeah that works
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: fine, what is the ID?
[17:08] <m4v> AdvoWork: I think a spanish layout have all the needed symbols for french: éèà & ç §(altgr+shift+s)
[17:08] <spasysheep> llutz: xargs: argument line too long
[17:09] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: 12d1:14ac
[17:09] <yokobr> ActionParsnip, i740 its meanless as i965
[17:09] <yokobr> i thought that it would be more accurate
[17:10] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: I request you to check this post, you will know my process http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1820017
[17:10] <endip> escott, I found a package in the repo called Pointing Devices that provides all sorts of extra options for input devices. I should have looked there first, but I just assumed there wouldn't be a gui package for it. I was wrong. Works great for turning of touchpad temporarily.
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: is it an E1820 ?
[17:11] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: nop, its huawei E367
[17:11] <escott> endip, ok thanks
[17:11] <coffieman> exit
[17:11] <coffieman> logout
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: http://www.ashokjp.com/blog/huawei-e1550-3g-dongle-on-ubuntu-11-062011.html
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: the ID says different ;)
[17:13] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: yeah, 2nd coloum will be different first one will be same.....
[17:13] <cliffton> test
[17:13] <jarod-> ubuntu sucks
[17:14] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: its "12d1:14ac" first one is same in that post aswell
[17:14] <cliffton> can some one help me I am on xbuntu 10.04 and am trying to share media through a network with vista machine
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11131316
[17:14] <cliffton> i downloaded samba but unsure what to do from there or if correct way
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-modeswitch-data/+bug/776959
[17:15] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: you are showing my post to me only dude
[17:15] <llutz> spasysheep: you might play with  xargs "-s bytes" option, i never had to use that myself. "man xargs" for more options
[17:15] <helmut_> hi
[17:15] <dr_willis> cliffton,  right click on a folder to share, see if theres a shareing menu item..
[17:15] <spasysheep> llutz: thanks
[17:16] <cliffton> no sharing menu item with right click
[17:16] <Dulak> spasysheep: depending on what you are doing using find or grep would make it much easier
[17:16] <FaRoF4> Someone who can give me help on a cactus (cacti)?
[17:16] <dr_willis> cliffton,  the old school way to enable a share would be to edit the /etc/samba/smb.conf and  create the shares you need.
[17:16] <dr_willis> cliffton,  then give you ruser a samba password via 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'
[17:17] <cliffton> im a total noob to this,  and would have no idea where to start :/
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: the bug may help
[17:17] <dr_willis> I dont use xubuntu, so no idea what other samba helper tools it has.
[17:17] <dr_willis> cliffton,  you may want to ask in #xubuntu if theres a more friendly front end.. or learn to edit config files.. its not that hard.
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> cliffton: I can give you my smb.conf if you want
[17:18] <ganapathy> Hi, I am on Natty and wish to install systemtap. Systemtap suggests linux-debug-2.6. Can someone tell me which package will have that ?
[17:18] <cliffton> well i dont have to use samba of there is an easier way, basicly i just want movies i have on my netbook to be watchable on vista machine
[17:18] <cliffton> i will check out xbuntu
[17:18] <ganapathy> I did try a apt-file search. That didn't return anything useful
[17:18] <dr_willis> cliffton,  thats what samba does.. its 'network neighborhood' for linux->windows
[17:18] <Dnerd> excuse me, does anyone happen to know if i can run ubuntu alongside OSX using boot camp?
[17:18] <Corey> ganapathy: Did you apt-file update first/
[17:18] <Corey> ?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> cliffton: samba makes your system appear as a windows system sharig stuff, if you only want to share on LAN then running an FTP server may be another way
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> !mac | Dnerd
[17:19] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: I would like to try the other two, by the way any other hint ?
[17:19] <Dnerd> thank you
[17:19] <cliffton> ok i will look into ftp server
[17:19] <ganapathy> Corey: Did it this morning. Will do it again. May be that might help
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: not sure, I don't use 3G except on my phone
[17:19] <ganapathy> Corey: I am in India. So its 22:49 hrs now
[17:19] <Dulak> Dnerd: I believe it's possible, but it's much easier to just run it in a virtual machine, the mac cpus rock for vms
[17:19] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: yeah, that's one option, may be i got reinstall usb-serial with the updated bug....
[17:20] <ganapathy> Corey: Did an apt-file update and again searched. Still no success
[17:20] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: doesn't matter 3g or 2g... its the device and driver config had to be set dead right.. and it works. I wonder why windows works on all devices....
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: because the device has a small storage of drivers
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: when you plug it in the drivers are installed then the device is 'flipped' to be a modem
[17:21] <Tralez> Hello all ubuntu users
[17:22] <dr_willis> cliffton,  heres my smb.conf file that enables the users 'Home' Direcory share. and  a share for the whole of the /media  directory ----> http://paste.ubuntu.com/662832/
[17:22] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: why not that in linux ?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: Ubuntu doesn't need, nor can it use those drivers so you simply need to flip it and it will work
[17:22] <Guest3258> Hey :D
[17:22] <dr_willis> cliffton,  a ftp server will let you transfer files back and forth.. but not watch them  without first copying them to the windows box.
[17:22] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: how to simply flip it is my question :)
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: because the device initially shows as a storage devcice you are getting issues, you simply need the config to tell your OS to immediately flip it when you plug in
[17:22] <cliffton> oh gotcha, what should i do save it as a text file than make it excutable?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: that is what usb-modeflip is for
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: does that answer the question?
[17:23] <ItBlends> how do I change the desktop manager that starts at bootup?
[17:23] <stealz> hey
[17:23] <dr_willis> cliffton,  no.. its a CONFIG FILE.. it goes in /etc/samba
[17:23] <ItBlends> xdm has been broken since maverick :(
[17:23] <dr_willis> cliffton,  its not a script.. You may want to go read a little bit on samba basics at least.
[17:23] <stealz> does anyone know a way to display the filename in fullscreen/slideshow in Eye of Gnome, or any other imageviewer that can do this?
[17:23] <dr_willis> !samba
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> ItBlends: install an alternative and you should be asked which you want to use
[17:23] <cliffton> k thank you so much, i will do some learning and check back in
[17:24] <ganapathy> Reg. linux-debug-2.6, A bug in debian says it needs to be manually built and there is no such package in the archive. Is it the same in Ubuntu as well ? This is the debian bug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=552150
[17:24] <Guest3258> Could someone explain why my nick name is Guest3258 when I have it set to BlueWolf in Empathy? And How do i change it?
[17:24] <ganapathy> ubottu: Just got that :(
[17:24] <ganapathy> :D
[17:24] <xangua> !register | Guest3258
[17:24] <stealz> Guest3258, try typing /nick Yournick
[17:24] <dr_willis> someone allready had BlueWolf Regiestered. :)
[17:25] <FaRoF4> Someone who can give me help on a cactus (cacti)?
[17:25] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: yeah sure, will download usb-modeflip. but i am getting this error while connecting manually (terminal) "Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Device or resource busy"
[17:25] <blumaa> hello my external speakers and my microphone do not work on this ubuntu laptop.  can anyone help?
[17:25] <xangua> looks like someone else alredy registered that nick Guest3258
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: you will need a wired or wireless connection to install it
[17:25] <tcsadmin> trying to install mskutil, is there a package that exist for this?
[17:25] <ItBlends> ActionParsnip, thanks
[17:25] <dr_willis> !find mskutil
[17:26] <JakeR003> hello
[17:26] <JakeR003> anyone in here ?
[17:26] <glebihan> ganapathy, in the bug report it also says that this package isn't  needed anymore
[17:26] <usr13> JakeR003: Hello
[17:26] <blumaa> anyone know how to troubleshoot mic problems?
[17:26] <JakeR003> i need to edit a file but it's not given me permission
[17:26] <JakeR003> how do i get a root permission?
[17:26] <JakeR003> without being root
[17:26] <nessonic> can auto startup scripts placed in init.d have multiple lines in them? It seems only the first line is executed for me on reboot
[17:26] <blumaa> sudo - s
[17:26] <usr13> JakeR003: gksudo
[17:27] <ganapathy> glebihan: The problem is, when I start stap, it says cannot find debugging symbols or something similar
[17:27] <dr_willis> !sudo | JakeR003
[17:27] <JakeR003> ooook
[17:27] <JakeR003> hahaha
[17:27] <JakeR003> thanks
[17:27] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: I did install usb-modeswitch and it worked. then i updated ubuntu. Then i restart "the busy message started"
[17:27] <JakeR003> damn thing require alot of type
[17:27] <blumaa> hello?
[17:27] <JakeR003> but it's cool.. it's cool
[17:27] <glebihan> ganadist, could you pastebin the exact error message ?
[17:28] <Guest3258> Is there an Ubuntu version of the Windows Pastel or something similar?
[17:28] <ganapathy> glebihan: sure
[17:28] <blumaa> I'm trying to skype but the mic isn't working...
[17:28] <usr13> JakeR003: For future reference;  It's best that you do not use enter for punctuation.  Put all of  your post on one output.
[17:28] <tien> hello
[17:28] <FaRoF4> cacti installed wrong, how do I uninstall and reinstall?
[17:28] <rabbi1> ActionParsnip: anyways, thanks for your time, will be back once I try the option from other two posts.....
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> rabbi1: not sure then, maybe others can advise. Or websearch for the message you are getting
[17:28] <usr13> blumaa: See that mic is not muted.  alsamixer
[17:28] <dr_willis> FaRoF4,  how did you install it the first time?
[17:28] <blumaa> the mic is not muted
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> blumaa: does it work in other apps?
[17:29] <blumaa> i don't think so
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> FaRoF4: how did you install it?
[17:29] <intrader> escott, I copied and don't see any difference; by the way what is chromium?
[17:29] <blumaa> i don't have other apps to try it with
[17:29] <usr13> blumaa: Is this a laptop? Is it an internal mic?  May need to use external mic.  Channels may be mixed up and internal one is muted, or just does not work.
[17:29] <ganapathy> glebihan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662838/ has the error
[17:29] <JakeR003> GUYS!! help meee.. i want to edit a file but it require permission
[17:29] <blumaa> it is a laptop and there  is an internal mic
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> blumaa: sound recorder is in a default ubuntu install
[17:29] <JakeR003> how to i get a root permission to that file?
[17:30] <dr_willis> JakeR003,  you could be a bit more specific...
[17:30] <usr13> JakeR003: Use the command   sudo
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> JakeR003: gksudo gedit file
[17:30] <rypervenche> intrader: chromium is a browser. It is what Chrome is based on.
[17:30] <JakeR003> i file locked and i'm using a normal account
[17:30] <Trond--> Are there any differences in the smoothness of running World of Warcraft in Wine, PlayOnLinux and Crossover emaulators?
[17:30] <dr_willis> JakeR003,  sudo nano /path/to/file/name        but whats the file?
[17:30] <JakeR003> it says permission denied when i edit and try to save
[17:30] <JakeR003> dr_willis the file is my problem
[17:30] <JakeR003> you tell me what to do
[17:30] <usr13> JakeR003: gksudo gedit <file-name-here>
[17:30] <JakeR003> sudo nano? what is nano? my account name ?
[17:30] <dr_willis> JakeR003,  YOU tell us some details....
[17:30] <blumaa> mic does not work with sound recorder
[17:31] <BlueWolf> Is there an Ubuntu version of the Windows Pastel or something similar?
[17:31] <blumaa> it just records a ton of static
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> JakeR003: nano is a terminal based text editor
[17:31] <ganapathy> JakeR003: nano is an editor
[17:31] <dr_willis> JakeR003,  whats the exact file name?
[17:31] <JakeR003> user82 opk i will try your way
[17:31] <JakeR003> dr_willis no it's not your business
[17:31] <JakeR003> just help me edit the file
[17:31] <intrader> escott, could the configuration be in the old chromium?
[17:31] <JakeR003> haha
[17:31] <usr13> blumaa: You may need to use external mic.  (Did you fire up alsamixer and see what it said about mic? or any muted channels?)
[17:31] <dr_willis> good luck then. we wont paste the exact command line to use... have fun.
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> blumaa: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[17:31] <escott> intrader, it depends on what you installed. did you install chrome by downloading it from google or did you install chromium-browser in apt
[17:32] <blumaa> how do i show you the output?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> blumaa: run it and a URL will be generated, what is the URL?
[17:32] <intrader> escott, from apt-get
[17:32] <usr13> JakeR003: Issue command:    gksudo gedit <file-name-here>
[17:32] <blumaa> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8788494a627744c1abd4e795bdd67e2a95f5e9d6
[17:32] <LtHummus> is there a channel for support with mkisofs?
[17:33] <ganapathy> glebihan: Did that help ?
[17:33] <JakeR003> dr_willis ok nano editor then wat to do to exit and save ?
[17:33] <usr13> JakeR003: But first, make sure it is really a text file, (not binary).  i.e.  file <file-name-here>
[17:33] <JakeR003> come on man.. help a broken soul
[17:33] <JakeR003> yeah it's a text file
[17:33] <glebihan> ganadist, I'm looking at it
[17:34] <usr13> ok
[17:34] <JakeR003> with # blah blah blah
[17:34] <JakeR003> i need to remove #
[17:34] <JakeR003> hush
[17:34] <dr_willis> nano hot keys are shown at the boottom.. ^ = the ctrl key JakeR003
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> JakeR003: if you give the full file name and path, we can advise
[17:34] <macfire> I have an ATI video card, I need to install ubuntu with some special options, such as nomodoset?
[17:34] <Guest10829> nickserv SET PASSWORD 051277
[17:34] <ganapathy> glebihan: Thanks. BTW, I am ganapathy. ganadist is someone else. Just in case that person gets alerted. :)
[17:34] <dr_willis>   ^O WriteOut    ---> hit CTRL and O
[17:35] <macfire> Guest10829 / before nickserv /nikcserv
[17:35] <glebihan> ganapathy, oh yes sorry !
[17:35] <JakeR003> well i don't understand a think about the nano editor. help me with a GUI editor
[17:35] <JakeR003> confusing stuff
[17:35] <dr_willis> JakeR003,    ^O WriteOut    ---> hit CTRL and O
[17:35] <usr13> JakeR003: Issue command:    gksudo gedit <file-name-here>
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> JakeR003: again, what is thefilename....
[17:35] <blumaa> any ideas from the URL?
[17:35] <JakeR003> it's not doing anything
[17:35] <JakeR003> i hit crtl + 0
[17:35] <JakeR003> nothing
[17:35] <dr_willis> not zero.. O
[17:35] <BlueWolf> Dose any one know if there is an Ubuntu version of the Windows Pastel or something similar?
[17:36] <dr_willis> as in OUT
[17:36] <usr13> JakeR003: He means you should hold Ctrl key and hit o
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> blumaa: give me chance, geez
[17:36] <ganapathy> JakeR003: That is O...PQRS... the keybetween I and P in a qwerty keyboard
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> blumaa: is it an EEEPC 1000
[17:36] <edbian> BlueWolf: What does windows pastel do?
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> blumaa: or does it have a letter on the end?
[17:36] <Guest10829> Nickserv help
[17:37] <JakeR003> you guys playing a joke on me.. right?
[17:37] <JakeR003> HAHAHA
[17:37] <JakeR003> i want a GUI editor
[17:37] <dr_willis> JakeR003,  we are thinking the same thing about you....
[17:37] <JakeR003> nothing happened
[17:37] <usr13> JakeR003: He means you should hold Ctrl key and hit o  #That is for when you are done editing.
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> JakeR003: last time. WHAT IS THE FILENAME
[17:37] <th0r> how long you guys going to feed the troll
[17:37] <intrader> escott, no chromium in the old linux
[17:37] <blumaa> no, it is just a eeepc 1000
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> blumaa: ok let me search
[17:37] <JakeR003> it's a plain text doucment
[17:37] <JakeR003> only root permission allowed to edit it
[17:37] <blumaa> sorry for the rush
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> JakeR003: doesn't answer the question, what is the full path and name of the file?
[17:37] <dr_willis> JakeR003,  people mentioned 'gksudo gedit path/to/file.txt' several times.....
[17:37] <JakeR003> how do i take control of the file using my account?
[17:37] <Guest10829> Quit
[17:38] <JakeR003> ok i did that let me try again
[17:38] <ganapathy> JakeR003: Ok, try this. sudo vi <filename>
[17:38] <usr13> JakeR003: what is the name of the file?
[17:38] <dr_willis> JakeR003,  you edit system config files as needed via use of sudo/gksudo.. if thats what you are asking.
[17:38] <Alvin956> C'è qlc1 in linea?
[17:38] <stealz> does anyone know a way to display the filename in slideshow mode in Eye of Gnome, or any other imageviewer that can do this?
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> JakeR003: if you answer,I can advise. If you keep telling us what the file is and what you want to do it doesn't tell us what the file is called
[17:38] <BlueWolf> edbian, It's an advanced accounting package. Do you know if I could get it to work in Ubuntu with Wine, or do you know of a similar program in Ubuntu ?
[17:38] <ganapathy> JakeR003: Move the cursor to #. Press Esc. Press x. Then press :wq!
[17:39] <JakeR003> thank you dr_willis it worked
[17:39] <JakeR003> and the other guy who said gksudo many times
[17:39] <JakeR003> usr13
[17:39] <JakeR003> thanks
[17:39] <usr13> NP
[17:39] <dr_willis> time to learn some text editors. :)
[17:39] <JakeR003> didnt sleep well from yesteray.. really borken
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> or how to tell people what they need to help you
[17:40] <feb2489> well, how do we install the old package manager on natty?
[17:40] <dr_willis> feb2489,  what old package manager?
[17:40] <achu> coz_ here?
[17:40] <dr_willis> they are all in the repos still. :)
[17:40] <Littlex> hi together, i have an issue with hibernating my ubuntu 11.04, the finished message is missing in the /var/log/pm-suspend.log http://pastie.org/2351399 - can maybe somone point into a direction how to fix it?
[17:40] <malik_> hi all,
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> blumaa: add:          options snd-hda-intel model=fujitsu           to            /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[17:40] <feb2489> dr_willis:the one that was used before software center
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> blumaa: may help
[17:41] <ganapathy> feb2489: synaptic ?
[17:41] <glebihan> ganapathy, it seems that the package you need hasn't been built since intrepid... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/289087
[17:41] <matrixa1> anybody knows if there's a core2 optimized rt kernel ppa?
[17:41] <dr_willis> feb2489,  synaptic is in the pacakge manger.. sudo apt-get install synaptic
[17:41] <feb2489> dr_willis:yeah
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> blumaa: you currently have it set as generic
[17:41] <blumaa> it says permissions denied for the alsa-base.conf
[17:41] <feb2489> dr_willis:thanks!
[17:41] <malik_> I have an old handheld PC running windows CE, Can i install a type of ubuntu on it ?
[17:41] <dr_willis> malik_,  doubtfull.
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> blumaa: also run:   alsamixer     be sure all levels are umuted and maxed
[17:42] <ganapathy> glebihan: Oh! Ok, I will see how to get around that. Thanks a lot.
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> blumaa: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Sound#Model_900A.2C_901.2C_1000.2C_1000H.2C_and_1000HE_front_Microphone
[17:42] <glebihan> ganapathy, you're welcome, sorry I couldn't be of more help
[17:42] <malik_> it has one CF card Slot and one PCMCIA slot.. any option of having any linux distro? even somthing like puppy linux ?
[17:43] <achu> hai katkee
[17:43] <Tralez> is there any other like program/modification like conky? please PM me
[17:43] <dr_willis> malik_,  since its most likely not an INTEL type cpu. but some arm thing..  that will make it very hard.
[17:43] <BlueWolf> edbian: It's an advanced accounting package. Do you know if I could get it to work in Ubuntu with Wine, or do you know of a similar program in Ubuntu ?
[17:43] <malik_> ok..
[17:43] <ganapathy> glebihan: No problem. The corresponding bug in debian says we can use make-kpkg from kernel-package to build the necessary linux-debug stuff manually. Let me try.
[17:43] <dr_willis> malik_,  then theres the question of how much ram/specs it has.. and if it can even be made to boot from somthing else. :)
[17:43] <th0r> Tralez: gkrellm?
[17:44] <edbian> BlueWolf: There are accounting programs in the repos.  I'm not sure if they're similar or as advanced as pastel.
[17:44] <irenicus09> Hi guys, I think my box may have been compromised...how do I check for signs?
[17:44] <edbian> BlueWolf: Can you give a link to pastel?  I can't find out / who makes it online
[17:44] <malik_> i dont think it can be made to boot from other media.. i was wondering if there is something like wubi that can take over the main OS from inside winCE
[17:44] <dr_willis> malik_,  i doubt it..
[17:44] <Tralez> th0r ill google it and check it out thanks
[17:45] <BlueWolf> edbian: Ok how would I find a list of them? And by any chance, will it work in wine?
[17:46] <irenicus09> anyone can help me? :|
[17:46] <malik_> dr_willis,  many thanks
[17:46] <th0r> irenicus09: chkrootkit?
[17:46] <edbian> BlueWolf: open the ubuntu software center and look through the categories.  I'm not sure exactly where it would be.   Pastel does not look like it will work in wine:  http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=8634
[17:46] <Phylock> irenicus09 - why do you think its compromised?
[17:47] <escott> BlueWolf, you can check winehq for wine support but for something like an accounting program you would probably be the first user to try it. for the apt accounting open up synaptics or software center and search for accounting
[17:47] <irenicus09> th0r: well I just saw my web cam flickering for a second lol...that wasn't supposed to happen
[17:47] <edbian> BlueWolf: I linked to winehq
[17:47] <h00k> irenicus09: was this on startup?
[17:48] <irenicus09> th0r: I wasn't using any applications...and also nmap scan showed open ports, etc. which I had to kill some services
[17:48] <dr_willis> malik_,  all those ce things ive seen, were well.. not worth the $ to take them home. :)    perhaps you can get putty or somting for them and use it as a terminal....
[17:48] <JakeR003> is linux sensitve for overclocking? compared to windows?
[17:48] <irenicus09> no this was like a few minutes back...and I was just browsing
[17:48] <h00k> irenicus09: did you just open something with flash? Sometimes flash will do that, when checking for camera/video capabilities
[17:48] <irenicus09> yes perhaps
[17:48] <irenicus09> h00k: was watching a flash video or something on youtube
[17:48] <aguitel> malik_, 10 years ago i had sharp handheld and i remember it connect with serial port to the pc ,now are in trash
[17:48] <usr13> edbian: May just be an app polling for the webcam. Could also be gmail, (if you are a gmail user and have it open on your browser).
[17:49] <trism> ganapathy: have you read http://sourceware.org/systemtap/wiki/SystemtapOnUbuntu (the kernel dbgsyms live on ddeb.ubuntu.com)
[17:49] <edbian> usr13: wrong nick
[17:49] <h00k> irenicus09: it could have been flash doing it. Do you have an ssh server running?
[17:49] <malik_> dr_willis, this is probably something similar.. :)
[17:49] <usr13> O
[17:49] <usr13> irenicus09: May just be an app polling for the webcam. Could also be gmail, (if you are a gmail user and have it open on your browser).
[17:49] <irenicus09> h00k: no i dont have any other services running other than dhclient
[17:49] <Littlex> is a swap partition of 7988 mb big enough for hibernation when you have 7803 mb memory?
[17:49] <edbian> Littlex: yes
[17:50] <usr13> Littlex: Just barely
[17:50] <edbian> Littlex: exactly the size of your ram is big enough
[17:50] <h00k> irenicus09: I doubt you're compromised, but if you're concerned, check with chrootkit
[17:50] <Littlex> hmm weird, why doesnt the hibernation finish then :<
[17:50] <irenicus09> I have logs of the last few mins...anyone want to take a look or should I post it here using pastebin?
[17:50] <irenicus09> logs from ufw...log checker or something
[17:50] <th0r> I wonder how many people have to suggest chkrootkit
[17:51] <Littlex> suspending works, but hibernation does not
[17:51] <h00k> irenicus09: try posting your auth.log, too
[17:51] <h00k> irenicus09: use pastebin.
[17:51] <irenicus09> k
[17:52] <Littlex> hm
[17:52] <Littlex> does anyone have an idea? :<
[17:52] <usr13> Littlex: I don't know, but for now, I'd just use suspend and not hibernate
[17:53] <Littlex> well its a workstation and i am turning of the power
[17:53] <Littlex> so suspending is not much of an option
[17:53] <h00k> irenicus09: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /var/log/auth.log
[17:53] <pikan> ëþäè íàïèøèòå êàê maya 2012 óñòàíîâèòü
[17:54] <Littlex> the only hint i have that the log file does not include the finish line
[17:54] <d4em0n> How can I put an other icon in the launcher ?
[17:54] <blumaa> so... my mic is still not working
[17:54] <blumaa> alsamixer says everything is on.
[17:55] <blumaa> i don't know how to do this- blumaa: add:          options snd-hda-intel model=fujitsu           to            /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf because I don't have permission to edit the file
[17:55] <urlin2u> d4em0n, what is your definition of the launcher?
[17:55] <irenicus09> okay here it is auth-log - http://pastebin.com/uqu5WYAs
[17:56] <irenicus09> syslog- http://pastebin.com/uqu5WYAs
[17:56] <irenicus09> oops http://pastebin.com/mvhWtpZg
[17:56] <d4em0n> urlin2u, the left bar
[17:57] <noneabove1182>  edbian hey so if you remember from last night the disk check did nothing to solve the problem :/
[17:57] <Reaper> so if I install a package from the terminal, where does it install it at?
[17:57] <urlin2u> d4em0n, i it is a open app it can be left there with a right click or dragged there.
[17:57] <edbian> noneabove1182: I see.
[17:57] <urlin2u> if
[17:57] <edbian> noneabove1182: What to do now then...
[17:57] <usr13> Littlex: Try increasing the size of the swap partition.
[17:57] <h00k> irenicus09: see if anyone wants to take a look, I have to jump on a phone call
[17:58] <noneabove1182> edbian im going home today so im thinking of maybe trying a live CD
[17:58] <Obfuscation> Google = No help for good Java IRC channel, and Java programmers know of a good one
[17:58] <bot-nick> http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ
[17:58] <blumaa> how do i override the permissions on that file?
[17:58] <dr_willis> Reaper,  apt installs stuff wher eit needs to go.. dosent matter if its from apt-get or synapotic, or softwarecenter
[17:58] <syn4pse-> sudo chmod XXXX filename
[17:59] <edbian> noneabove1182: Try a liveCD but I don't know if you'll have much luck.  I suggest maybe trying the liveCD of a different distro.  Some other live CDs, like the ones aimed at 'system repair', usually boot no matter what.
[17:59] <Reaper> got cha, so how do I find something once its installed?
[17:59] <usr13> irenicus09: What's the matter?
[17:59] <usr13> blumaa: chmod
[17:59] <dr_willis> Reaper,  to run it? i normally just type its name..
[17:59] <Obfuscation> Reaper: locate helps me out a lot when I "loose" stuff
[17:59] <irenicus09> usr13: umm...I think perhaps my system is compromised?
[17:59] <edbian> noneabove1182: http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
[17:59] <noneabove1182> edbian its really weird especially with my wubi problem paired with it, just seems like my laptop doesnt like ubuntu ><
[18:00] <Reaper> so for example, if it was xchat, you just type that in the terminal?
[18:00] <usr13> blumaa: What exactly do you need to do to it?
[18:00] <blumaa> i don't know how to do this- blumaa: add:          options snd-hda-intel model=fujitsu           to            /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf because I don't have permission to edit the file
[18:00] <edbian> noneabove1182: Ubuntu is being picky.  Another suggestion, try the LTS.  It's older so it has been better tested for bugs and things.
[18:00] <usr13> irenicus09: sudo apt-get install chkrootkit
[18:01] <Kuehlschrank> blumaa:  sudo echo "options snd-hda-intel model=fujitsu" >> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[18:01] <usr13> irenicus09: What makes you think it has been compromised?
[18:01] <dr_willis> Kuehlschrank,  i thinkyou need to use a 'tee' to get sudo to echo into a file properly...
[18:01] <edbian> noneabove1182: This is not uncommon, unfortunately.  Writing an OS that works on any x86 machine is quite a trick.
[18:01] <blumaa> i don't know what that means
[18:02] <usr13> blumaa: gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[18:02] <irenicus09> usr13: I saw webcam flicker all of a sudden while browsing and I saw some high level ports listening and I had to kill those processes
[18:02] <noneabove1182> edbian yea sadly my laptop worked with wubi for a bit so now i really like unity XD its really weird, wubi was working flawlessly for a bit, but then i tried installing drivers for my video card and then this problem constantly
[18:02] <Kuehlschrank> dr_willis: for me it always worked this way..
[18:02] <edbian> noneabove1182: That does not sound strange to me at all :P
[18:02] <dr_willis> Kuehlschrank,  echo "foo" | sudo tee /root/somefile
[18:02] <dr_willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[18:02] <edbian> noneabove1182: There are two problems.  First: you cannot boot the 11.04 liveUSB.  Second, you cannot boot your wubi install.  The liveUSB problem in my opinion is more important.
[18:03] <noneabove1182> edbian but it seems no matter how many times i uninstall it or try downloading a new wubi.exe or try a new iso, the same problem comes back
[18:03] <Kuehlschrank> dr_willis: the *right* way =)
[18:03] <usr13> irenicus09 See my pm
[18:03] <noneabove1182> edbian fair enough haha
[18:03] <edbian> noneabove1182: That's because the new wubi's will have the updates that you installed that caused the problem.
[18:03] <edbian> noneabove1182: sure :)
[18:03] <noneabove1182> edbian yea i keep trying to figure out if i can undo those old changes...
[18:03] <dr_willis> Kuehlschrank,  well this definatly dont work --> sudo echo "foo" > /root/somefile
[18:04] <edbian> noneabove1182: That's why I suggested getting 10.04
[18:04] <konsumer> hello everyone
[18:04] <noneabove1182> edbian cause if i can just undo that id be fine with not having my better graphics card driver
[18:04] <edbian> noneabove1182: It has a better chance of working
[18:04] <Kartagis> good evening
[18:04] <noneabove1182> edbian sadly was spoiled by unity :P
[18:04] <urlin2u> d4em0n, was that enough info, you can also build launchers for some and drag them to the left panel as well.
[18:04] <blumaa> unbelievable.  my mic is STILL not working
[18:04] <edbian> noneabove1182: yes 10.04 does not have unity
[18:04] <blumaa> this is so frustrating
[18:04] <Kartagis> I can't login to the internet, I've added a route
[18:04] <noneabove1182> edbian unfortunately
[18:04] <Kartagis> I can see the route
[18:05] <Kartagis> can you help me?
[18:05] <blumaa> this never happened before the ubuntu update
[18:05] <noneabove1182> edbian do you know of any ways to do wubi completely fresh ?
[18:05] <Kartagis> NetworkManager didn't update /etc/resolv.conf
[18:05] <edbian> noneabove1182: You can uninstall wubi from the add/remove programs menu in windows.
[18:05] <noneabove1182> edbian ive done that
[18:05] <edbian> noneabove1182: Then I don't know.
[18:05] <noneabove1182> edbian and the new one still has the problems :/
[18:06] <noneabove1182> ebian and though i cant confirm this, i think it might only be after applying updates..
[18:06] <edbian> noneabove1182: I suggest you try to get a 10.04 liveUSB booting then you can fix your 11.04 wubi install.  Additionally you might be able to figure out why 11.04 is not booting.
[18:06] <Kuehlschrank> blumaa: maybe you should consider a reboot.
[18:06] <edbian> noneabove1182: When you boot the liveUSB you get that one line of text right?
[18:06] <noneabove1182> edbian how so ? and is there a chance that if i install 10.04 i might be able to upgrade?
[18:06] <blumaa> um... really?
[18:06] <noneabove1182> edbian yea
[18:07] <edbian> noneabove1182: Is there ANYTHING else before or after that line?  (that is a standard line that should occur though)
[18:07] <blumaa> that is so not going to help
[18:07] <noneabove1182> edbian nothing, boots and thats all that happens
[18:07] <edbian> noneabove1182: Yes you can upgrade 10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04 but that's not what I meant.  I mean removing the driver
[18:07] <konsumer> How do i install a game i purchased? The file name is "worldofgoo.tar.gz"
[18:07] <edbian> noneabove1182: After that line appears and the machine appears frozen can you press num-lock or caps-lock and the light changes?
[18:08] <Kuehlschrank> blumaa: if you're editing driver-configs you might do so... I had to reboot my box after having installed a different wifi-driver
[18:08] <konsumer> not 100% new to linux / ubuntu but ive never installed anything unless its in the Ubuntu Software Center
[18:08] <ganapathy> konsumer: tar -xxzvf worldofgoo.tar.gz
[18:08] <edbian> ganapathy: That does not compile / install it
[18:08] <ganapathy> tar -xzvf worldofgoo.tar.gz
[18:08] <blumaa> anyone know how to get a mic working in ubuntu?
[18:08] <ganapathy> and then let us know if you have a configure script
[18:08] <blumaa> it was working before the update....
[18:08] <konsumer> blumaa, ive tried many ways, none work
[18:09] <konsumer> for 7.1
[18:09] <ganapathy> edbian: it doesn't :) Just going step by step
[18:09] <blumaa> are you joking?!
[18:09] <noneabove1182> edbian not sure, i can try right now though if youd like, and so youre suggesting then that i install the 10.04 uninstall driver, and then try to install 11.04 again?
[18:09] <konsumer> no
[18:09] <konsumer> xchat isnt that bad
[18:09] <konsumer> im using it now and have it set up the exact same way as mIRC
[18:09] <blumaa> anyone know how to get a mic working in ubuntu?
[18:09] <konsumer> Thanks for the help ganapathy
[18:10] <edbian> noneabove1182: No, I'm suggesting you use the 10.04 liveUSB to remove the driver from the 11.04 wubi install (that won't be easy btw.  I don't know exactly how to do it)
[18:10] <Kartagis> can you help?
[18:10] <Kartagis> NetworkManager didn't update /etc/resolv.conf
[18:10] <edbian> ganapathy: :)
[18:10] <konsumer> blumaa, mirc 6.3 worked for me with Wine
[18:10] <edbian> noneabove1182: But first try to boot the 11.04 liveUSB you have
[18:10] <Kartagis> I've added a route
[18:10] <konsumer> but not 100%
[18:10] <blumaa> konsumer, i have no idea what you are talking about
[18:10] <noneabove1182> edbian and try the whole caps lock lights thing?
[18:10] <edbian> noneabove1182: yes
[18:11] <noneabove1182> edbian kk brb then
[18:11] <edbian> noneabove1182: If the lights change when you press those keys it means the system is not frozen.
[18:11] <edbian> noneabove1182: ok
[18:11] <usr13> Kartagis: All on one line please, (and it will be easier for someone to understand and follow what you are saying).
[18:11] <konsumer> blumaa, im talking about making mIRC work on Ubuntu
[18:11] <konsumer> blumaa, it just doesn't work
[18:11] <blumaa> i'm talking about a microphone
[18:11] <ganapathy> konsumer: blumaa is talking about mic
[18:11] <konsumer> lol, sorry haha
[18:12] <konsumer> my text is size 6 ;(
[18:12] <Kartagis> NetworkManager didn't update /etc/resolv.conf. I've added a route. I can't get on the 'net
[18:12] <konsumer> blumaa, most mic's are plug and play
[18:12] <blumaa> ganapathy, you have any idea?
[18:12] <blumaa> the mic is an internal mic
[18:12] <usr13> Kartagis: So, exactly, what did you do?
[18:12] <konsumer> blumaa, do you know make?
[18:13] <blumaa> konsumer, i don't understand you.
[18:13] <Kartagis> usr13: I've done sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.10
[18:13] <blumaa> do i know make what?
[18:13] <ganapathy> blumaa: No :( Sorry. It worked out of the box for me. But which laptop. May be we can try installing drivers.
[18:13] <blumaa> it's the asus eeepc 1000
[18:13] <usr13> Kartagis: Ok.  Is 192.168.0.10  your gateway router?
[18:13] <Kartagis> usr13: and restarted networking
[18:13] <Kartagis> usr13: yes
[18:14] <Kartagis> usr13: I can see the routw
[18:14] <Kartagis> route*
[18:14] <usr13> Kartagis: Does this gateway router have a dhcp server running on it?
[18:14] <usr13> Kartagis: See my pm
[18:14] <FaRoF4> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[18:14] <Kartagis> usr13: yes
[18:14] <ganapathy> Kartagis: Ok, is the issue with te routes or is it with DNS. Meaning can you ping 8.8.8.8 from that box ?
[18:14] <noneabove1182> edbian yea so no the lights didnt work
[18:15] <usr13> Kartagis: Why are you not using it?
[18:15] <noneabove1182> edbian another thing i want to try with the wubi is to not install updates but ill wait for that4
[18:15] <edbian> noneabove1182: Then the system is frozen.  Did you edit the bios to boot the USB drive first?  (I think you did, just want to confirm)
[18:15] <FaRoF4> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[18:15] <konsumer> ganadist, that command you gave me, only extracted the gz
[18:15] <FaRoF4> Solved ?
[18:15] <konsumer> ganadist, now i see an .sh file
[18:15] <edbian> noneabove1182: That's a good idea with wubi but we're no-where near that yet
[18:15] <noneabove1182> edbian yea i did, but of course its under floppy drive odly.. but yea
[18:15] <frank_> just listening to the cast of jono at ustream. funny thing is ubuntu actually has problems with the flash chat at the side
[18:15] <ganapathy> konsumer: Ok, is it install.sh ?
[18:16] <ganapathy> Do you see a configure file ?
[18:16] <edbian> noneabove1182: That is wrong.  Look around the bios MUCH MORE.  Make sure the USB drive is plugged in when you're doing it.
[18:16] <konsumer> it says "gnome-only-worldofgoo-install.sh"
[18:16] <ganapathy> konsumer: Or some .bin file ?
[18:16] <edbian> noneabove1182: This is NOT a USB floppy drive therefore the system is freezing.
[18:16] <noneabove1182> edbian i can take another look but im pretty sure thats as close as i could get
[18:16] <edbian> noneabove1182: Look through every menu of the bios.  It might even be under hdds or something strange
[18:16] <noneabove1182> edbian there was no option for just usb
[18:16] <ganapathy> konsumer: make sure you have execute permission. chmod 755 on that .sh file
[18:16] <noneabove1182> edbian alrighty brb
[18:17] <ganapathy> Then do ./<filename.sh>
[18:17] <edbian> noneabove1182: Be rigorous.  Try everything that sounds remotely like your USB drive and some things that don't
[18:17] <konsumer> ganadist, in the WorldOfGoo.tar.bz2 there is a "WorldOfGoo.bin"
[18:18] <ganapathy> konsumer: Does it have a README or INSTALL ? Just asking. You might have noticed them aleady
[18:18] <konsumer> ganapathy, none :(
[18:18] <konsumer> Oh wait, lol
[18:19] <konsumer> its in the .bz2 :D
[18:19] <konsumer> the readme.html
[18:19] <ganapathy> konsumer: Ok :)
[18:19] <Mrokii> Hi. I have a problem with Skype on Ubuntu. I don't hear other people talking in their microphones. I also tried the testcall, but I don't hear anything either. Any help?
[18:19] <konsumer> bah, all it says is "download the distribution-independent package (.tar.gz) and extract it."
[18:19] <konsumer> lol
[18:20] <konsumer> I'll just get my money back and delete this
[18:20] <konsumer> thanks for your help anyways
[18:20] <ganapathy> konsumer: lol. You can try running the .sh
[18:20] <ganapathy> konsumer: NP
[18:21] <dr_willis> konsumer,  you extract, cd to the dir it made, run the sh..
[18:21] <dr_willis> the game runs fine here
[18:21] <noneabove1182> edbian k so i looked around some more, disabled to whole floppy thing, moved the other one with USB in the name to the top of the list, but it doesnt go off usb still, and when i got to boot options theres only two options, CDROM and HARDDRIVE and both run windows
[18:21] <konsumer> dr_willis, will try that :)
[18:21] <konsumer> ty
[18:22] <noneabove1182> oh, dam, aparently edbian left.. dam ><
[18:22] <konsumer> got this error when i did ./
[18:22] <konsumer> "world-of-goo.desktop: error: (will be fatal in the future): value "GNOME" in key "Categories" in group "Desktop Entry" requires another category to be present among the following categories: GTK
[18:22] <konsumer> "
[18:23] <konsumer> well, i see it in the Applications / Games  section
[18:23] <dr_willis> Hmm. Dont have my Humble Bundle 1 here...
[18:23] <konsumer> lets hope it works :D
[18:23] <konsumer> Thanks dr_willis
[18:23] <dr_willis> just #2 and 3
[18:24] <dr_willis> I cant even get Crayon Physics to work on windows.. in steam... :) so go figure.
[18:24] <dr_willis> konsumer,  i see a WorldOfGooSetup.deb here....
[18:24] <newbie|4> Hello, Do you guys know any application for linux that can check for errors in the hard drive?
[18:25] <rumpe1> Chilaquiles, badblocks
[18:25] <ganapathy> Chilaquiles: There are a few good tools. But risky as well. For eg. fsck
[18:26] <Chilaquiles> what would be the best ganapathy?
[18:26] <Pici> Chilaquiles: smartmontools
[18:27] <archman> ubuntu creates a new keyboard layout on every boot and switches to it by default, but that's not what i want, i want to use my "old" layout. how to fix that?
[18:27] <Tonisius> Anyone know the window class or object name for the notifications in 11.04's gnome environment?  Trying to add in a filter for the workspace wall so it doesn't shift on changing workspaces
[18:27] <ganapathy> Chilaquiles: fsck checks the file system and can repair it to a good extent
[18:27] <Tonisius> Sorry, the Desktop Wall"
[18:27] <Tonisius> Sorry, the "Desktop Wall" plugin
[18:27] <Kartagis> usr13++
[18:27] <archman> Tonisius: you should try with using obxprop | grep WM_CLASS
[18:27] <ganapathy> But fsck shouldn't be run on mounted file systems
[18:28] <Stava> So I've booted "try ubuntu before installing" from a usb drive. How do I mount that USB drive so that I can save a few files on it?
[18:28] <Tonisius> so far:  archman hmm, I'll try that
[18:28] <urlin2u> Stava, did you want the usb persistent?
[18:28] <Tonisius> archman: open box?
[18:29] <Kuehlschrank> Does anyone know where to download the 'Ubuntu Rust Black GDM' theme...all the links on google seem not to be working?
[18:29] <FoolsRun> Hey, can anyone tell me how to install a 64bit version of Java? I keep getting the following message: "Running a 64-bit JVM is not supported on this platform". I'm running on 64bit arcetecture.
[18:29] <archman> Tonisius: i'm not sure, i've used it on Arch Linux to get the window class
[18:29] <user82> does anyone know if nautilus can generate a preview for mkv files with header compression?
[18:29] <Tonisius> archman: I'll google it then
[18:29] <archman> Tonisius: with i3 window manager
[18:29] <konsumer> dr_willis, it worked perfect :D
[18:29] <usr13> Kartagis: Yes?
[18:29] <Tonisius> hmm, what does the obxprop stand for?  Object Properties?
[18:30] <konsumer> Thanks for all your help fellas
[18:30] <konsumer> Ubuntu kicks ass :D
[18:30] <Tonisius> maybe gnome/metacity has something similar
[18:30] <archman> maybe
[18:30] <archman> aah i see it's not here by default
[18:30] <Stava> The USB drive from which im running "try ubuntu before installing" is mounted at /cdrom, but seems to be readonly. How do I save data to this device?
[18:32] <archman> why is ubuntu switching my keyboard layout after rebooting?
[18:32] <Zorro> asdasd
[18:32] <konsumer> Stava, did you try to right click on the main device window and selecting properties, and in there, change the options from read only to both?
[18:32] <konsumer> archman, i had that same issue. After the update to 10.10 it was gone :/
[18:33] <archman> konsumer: :(
[18:33] <konsumer> archman, not really sure what part of the update fixed it, but maybe some one here does
[18:33] <Tonisius> archman: xprop
[18:33] <archman> i hope so :)
[18:33] <Tonisius> http://wiki.compiz.org/WindowMatching#Window_Rules
[18:33] <archman> Tonisius: heh :)
[18:35] <Tonisius> hmm, it doesn't work
[18:35] <Tonisius> archman: it does display the desktop information when I click on it
[18:36] <Tonisius> but if I try to click on the "notification" that fades in and out, it doesn't show me information for it
[18:36] <archman> aah :/
[18:36] <Tonisius> like it fades so far out that I can't even click on it... :(
[18:36] <Tonisius> I really hate that it shifts along with all my windows when I change workspaces
[18:37] <glebihan> Tonisius, did you try with the -frame option ?
[18:37] <Tonisius> glebihan: with xprop?
[18:37] <Thor^^> hi ya, I got a slight issue on an Ubuntu server, I'm trying to delete a selection of files but rm returns the error: Argument list too long, anyone got a nice oneliner to work around that?
[18:37] <archman> does anyone know how to have wireless turned off on startup?
[18:37] <glebihan> Tonisius, yes
[18:37] <Tonisius> what is it supposed to do, there is no output for it when I click on it
[18:37] <urlin2u> archman, turn off the auto connect.
[18:37] <Tonisius> archman: set it to not be auto
[18:38] <bullgard4_> archman: The answer depends on your Ubuntu release.
[18:38] <archman> Tonisius: i mean the device, not some AP
[18:38] <archman> bullgard4_: lucid
[18:38] <Tonisius> archman: command line without the NetworkManger, take off the "auto <interfaceID>
[18:38] <Tonisius> archman: yes, the device
[18:39] <Tonisius> you have to disable the auto int he network manager, or in the command line without network manager, through the /etc/network/interfaces, remove the "auto <device>" line/entry
[18:39] <PeeOnYou> Thor^^: are you listing each file?
[18:39] <archman> Tonisius: hmm "command line without the NM"?
[18:39] <archman> Tonisius: aaah, checking it out!
[18:39] <bullgard4_> archman: Ridht-click on your network-manager applet. Disable the menu item "Enable wireless".
[18:39] <zetetikos> need help with Bind9 when configuring a domainname.  Can someone help me
[18:39] <galamar> Hello. If I was wanting to copy all the configuration files and settings used to startx, which all files would I need?
[18:39]  * stilia-johny hi.. i need help!
[18:40] <Tonisius> archman: if you're using gnome, you have the NetworkManager, if you're using a server, or a system with the NetworkManager disabled, you have to modify the /etc/network/interfaces file, and remove the auto entries, and take down the itnerfaces, they wont come back up until you bring up the interfaces with "ifup <device>"
[18:40] <archman> bullgard4_: Tonisius: i don't have any "Auto..." there
[18:40] <bullgard4_> !ask | stilia-johny
[18:40] <AlexDevilLX> Why skype phone calls arnt working
[18:40] <stilia-johny> i have virtual box and i want to have virtual interface in networkmanager
[18:40] <Tonisius> auto lo
[18:40] <Tonisius> iface lo inet loopback
[18:40] <Kuehlschrank> Is there an IRC channel about ubuntu-themes ?
[18:40] <Tonisius> archman: that's what I have in my NetworkManager enabled system
[18:41]  * stilia-johny  i have virtual box and i want to have virtual interface in networkmanager
[18:41] <Tonisius> auto eth0
[18:41] <Tonisius> iface eth0 inet static
[18:41] <Thor^^> PeeOnYou: I did that first to check what files to delete using ls, then i found the pattern (*.php?id=*) and passed that to rm with the following command: rm -f *.php?id=*
[18:41] <meow27_> hi, whats the application that shows popups in the upper right corner?
[18:41] <archman> Tonisius: same here: only loopback device
[18:41] <bullgard4_> archman: I did not say that you have any "Auto..." there.
[18:41] <meow27_> like for empathy and pidgin
[18:41] <xangua> meow27_: notify-osd
[18:41] <archman> bullgard4_ sorry, true
[18:41] <meow27_> xangua thanks
[18:42] <archman> bullgard4_: that doesn't solve the issue, that's just a solution for the running session, at least here
[18:42] <stilia-johny> anyy help ???  i have virtual box and i want to have virtual interface in networkmanager
[18:42] <PeeOnYou> hm
[18:42] <Tonisius> glebihan: so, what does the -frame do?
[18:42] <galamar> or if its easier, how do I make startx use vesa if startx by its self is failing?
[18:43] <glebihan> Tonisius, apparently, not what I was expecting... still looking
[18:43] <PeeOnYou> i dont see how your argument list is too long...
[18:44] <Thor^^> PeeOnYou: I suspect is the content of the directory being too much for it
[18:44] <Thor^^> PeeOnYou: ls takes a couple of seconds to actually run
[18:44] <PeeOnYou> that shouldn't have any bearing on what it wil rm
[18:44] <PeeOnYou> oh
[18:44] <PeeOnYou> maybe it does..
[18:44] <bullgard4_> archman: In Lucid network-manager will stop asking if it should connect to a wireless access point after a while anyway.
[18:45] <Tonisius> glebihan: sadly, I don't know much about the X server to get the info I need
[18:45] <intrader> Anyone, upgrade to 11.04 got me in trouble, so I reinstalled 10.10. In an effort to get the iPod to show up in Rhythmbox, the instructions in http://www.webupd8.org/2010/12/get-ios4-mountsync-working-in-ubuntu.html want to execute `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` ; is this safe?
[18:45] <archman> bullgard4_: i said two times that i'm not interested in AP, but in the device turn on at startup :D:D
[18:45] <Tonisius> the notifications come from empathy, rythmbox, and pithos, and it's using the same look, and it's themed, so I know it's handled by metacity/compiz
[18:45] <Pici> Tonisius: notify-osd
[18:46] <robyn> is it possible to hide your operating system in firefox, or spoof it to Windows, so that websites that prevent access from linux machines will allows access?
[18:46] <jenk> intrader, That gives you updates to 10.10
[18:46] <kbrosnan> robyn: user agent switcher extension
[18:46] <urlin2u> intrader, a dist-upgrade is a safe move generally.
[18:46] <robyn> kbrosnan: thank you
[18:47] <Tonisius> Pici: is that the class name? or window name?
[18:47] <Tonisius> Pici: and how did you locate this?
[18:47] <intrader> jenk, urnlin2u, that is Ok, I will go ahead - thanks
[18:47] <urlin2u> intrader, you might comsider having a image of a working setup in case you have problems.
[18:47] <Pici> Tonisius: I just know.  Thats the package that provides those notifications
[18:48] <JakeR003> is there a way on ubuntu to stress test the CPU?
[18:48] <Pici> JakeR003: cpuburn is one package.
[18:48] <jenk> Hi ! How do I open up 'xz' files in 10.04.3 ? I know they open in 11.04.
[18:48] <JakeR003> is it on ubuntu?
[18:48] <JakeR003> or i have to install it
[18:48] <Tonisius> yes!
[18:48] <Tonisius> Pici: it works
[18:48] <joru> Hi, is it possible through ubuntu itself to install a beta of a new ubuntu onto a second hd mounted in the computer? or do i have to burn a cd all the tmie?
[18:48] <Pici> Thor^^: rm * will expand to fit the files that it will be removing. You could try using find -regex with your pattern,
[18:48] <Tonisius> it's a window name called notify-osd
[18:48] <Tonisius> :D
[18:48] <PeeOnYou> Thor^^ http://www.moundalexis.com/archives/000035.php
[18:48] <Tonisius> Pici: thaNK YOU SO MUCH!!! caps are intentional
[18:48] <Pici> JakeR003: It is in the repositories, you'd need to install it.
[18:48] <Pici> Tonisius: sure, np :)
[18:49] <Tonisius> (class=Gnome-panel | name=desktop_window | name=notify-osd)
[18:49] <Tonisius> Love my Non Sliding windows rules!
[18:49] <Thor^^> Pici: there are too many to do it manually
[18:49] <JakeR003> pici thanks
[18:49] <Tonisius> glebihan: no need for any more help, wish I knew how to detect that window name, but oh wells!
[18:49] <Thor^^> PeeOnYou: thanks :)
[18:49] <PeeOnYou> use find and pipe output to rm
[18:49] <Pici> Thor^^: What do you mean manually?
[18:49] <Tonisius> glebihan: try that non sliding windows setting in the Desktop Wall Plugin -> Viewport Switching -> Non Sliding Windows, very sexy!
[18:49] <Pici> PeeOnYou: You can't pipe into rm, it doesn't take input via stdin.
[18:49] <glebihan> Tonisius, I found how to detect the window name...
[18:49] <geekbri> if you are using find you should use either -exec or xargs
[18:49] <Tonisius> glebihan: how :D
[18:50] <Tonisius> for future reference
[18:50] <PeeOnYou> er.. pipe to xargs
[18:50] <Kuehlschrank> Where can I download 'Ubuntu_Rust___Black_GDM_16_10_by_techhead89.gz' ? Just can't find a valid link...
[18:50] <glebihan> Tonisius, using "xwininfo -root -tree" will a show a tree of all opened windows
[18:50] <Tonisius> glebihan: oooh, neat
[18:50] <h00k> Kuehlschrank: you'd have to check with whoever makes that...whatever it is.
[18:50] <Tonisius> wow, lots of "has no name"
[18:51] <galamar> how do I register nick again??? something like msg nickserver???
[18:51] <h00k> !register | galamar
[18:51] <bobJabba> Hi, I need help. How can I revert the window app menus back to their own windows while still using Unity?
[18:51] <glebihan> Tonisius, yes but you should find "notify-osd" somewhere in there
[18:51] <Thor^^> PeeOnYou: thanks :) seems to actually work
[18:51] <glebihan> Tonisius, well if you have a notification window opened of course
[18:51] <Thor^^> for good measure, wc returned 71345 files in the directory (grep even died)
[18:52] <PeeOnYou> Thor^^ no prob
[18:52] <urlin2u> bobJabba, can you be more specific.
[18:53] <Kuehlschrank> h00k: It's a gorgeous gnome login screen theme, but unfortunately I can't find it anywhere on the internet. I hoped for someone to know where to get it.
[18:53] <Tonisius>      0x2600001 "notify-osd": ("notify-osd" "Notify-osd")  10x10+10+10  +10+10
[18:53] <Tonisius>         1 child:
[18:53] <Tonisius>         0x2600002 (has no name): ()  1x1+-1+-1  +9+9
[18:53] <Tonisius> well, that's an awesome layout!
[18:53] <jenk> Hey !! How do open up files compressed in xz on Ubuntu 10.04 in archive manager ? Is there another utility to download ?
[18:53] <Tonisius> well, now I have a good way of lisint it all, wish it was easier to navigate, I can control that I guess.
[18:53] <Tonisius> just grep -v out all the has no name entries
[18:54] <usr13> jenk: xz ?
[18:54] <bobJabba> urlin2u, using Unity, you know how all app menus (File, Edit, View, etc) all use the same "taskbar" on top? I want those menus back to their own windows especially when windows aren't maximized.
[18:54] <usr13> jenk: unxz
[18:54] <urlin2u> bobJabba, I don't know I think it is hard coded.
[18:54] <Tonisius> xwininfo -root -tree | grep -v "(has no name):" | grep -v "child"
[18:54] <Tonisius> glebihan: awesome stuff!
[18:55] <urlin2u> bobJabba, you can do it in FF with removal of a addon though.
[18:55] <galamar> what do I have to do when a channel says: "cannot send to channel"?
[18:55] <Tonisius> guess I could explode it, and list out just the names, and classes.
[18:55] <h00k> galamar: register.
[18:55] <Tonisius> wait, these don't show class name, huh
[18:55] <bobJabba> urlin2u, OK thanks. It's just that I saw a tutorial on it recently but I couldn't find it again. Been searching for hours now lol I'll keep Googling.
[18:55] <h00k> galamar: check the link I had ubottu tell you about
[18:55] <h00k> galamar: or if you have questions, check in #freenode
[18:55] <venik212> UNITY kills the menus in Lyx, VLC and maybe other programs as well.  This bug has been there for a YEAR, and it is still there.  What do I do? (short of returning to gnome)?
[18:56] <glebihan> Tonisius, using a combination of the 2 commands should allow to write a script to list all windows with their class name
[18:56] <urlin2u> bobJabba, f you find it let us know it is a bit irritating. ;)
[18:56] <urlin2u> If
[18:56] <Tonisius> is the class name actually listed there though?
[18:56] <Tonisius> oh, wait, I can search by "id" for detailed information from xprop
[18:56] <jenk> usr13, Thanks a million ! Apparently, I was lacking "xz-utils". Installed it and it works perfectly !
[18:56] <Tonisius> glebihan: I see what you're getting at
[18:57] <bobJabba> urlin2u lol yeah. I will.
[18:57] <Tonisius> I see what you did thar
[18:57] <dr_willis> venik212,  unity has been out for a year? :)  never noticed.. You could just disable the global menus.
[18:58] <citronex> hello
[18:58] <venik212> Dr_Willis-- I track the bug discussions, and they go back for roughly a year.  How do I disable the global menus?
[18:59] <citronex> I am new to Ubuntu and I have installed VMware. I'm running 10.10
[18:59] <citronex> I need to reinstall but I don't know how to delete it :(
[18:59] <dr_willis> venik212,  theres a way to do it on a per app basis va some variable you export. or remove the pacakge.. i forget its names. saw it at the webupd8 blog site when unity first came out
[18:59] <Tonisius> citronex: purging is always nice, I don't understand your question
[19:00]  * stilia-johny anyone that know any programm speech recognition??? send prive!!!! thanks!
[19:00] <Jarred> So I think I messed up sound really bad
[19:00] <Tonisius> if you want to remove the vmware package, check if it has a remove, or uninstall documentation
[19:00] <venik212> dr_willis-- something like app-menus?  That was mentioned in the bug discussions
[19:00] <Jarred> I was trying to get OSS working through Wine for Spotify
[19:00] <Jarred> (Ubuntu 11.04 AMD64)
[19:00] <Jarred> I installed a few relevant-looking packages
[19:00] <stilia-johny> !
[19:00] <Jarred> but now the sound preferences isn't detecting any audio cards
[19:00] <Jarred> except for dummy
[19:01] <Jarred> I know with alsa, I would just run alsaconf and it would redetect my sound cards
[19:01] <Tonisius> igj
[19:01] <Jarred> but I don't know how to do that with PulseAudio
[19:01] <Tonisius> I think citronex is a bot
[19:01] <Tonisius> ugh
[19:01] <dr_willis> pulse audio runs on top of alsa Jarred
[19:01]  * stilia-johny anyone knows any speech recognation programm for linux that work fine??
[19:01] <Jarred> Oh
[19:02] <Jarred> So why can't I just run alsaconf?
[19:02] <dr_willis> No idea. :)
[19:02] <dr_willis> bbl
[19:02] <citronex> I'm not a bot
[19:02] <venik212> dr_willis: it is appmenu.  I shall see if I can kill it, although I am not sure that it is what kills the Lyx and VLC menus
[19:02] <citronex> I'm new to Ubuntu, if I was a bot I'd know how to fix this
[19:03] <urlin2u> citronex, reinstall what?
[19:04] <citronex> I want to reinstall VMware
[19:04] <Jarred> It recognizes my Audio card, or at least lspci does
[19:04] <Jarred> 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[19:04] <SikEnCide> cian1500ww Try using Virtual Box
[19:04] <citronex> VMware never installed correctly on my machine
[19:04] <venik212> Dr_Willis-- http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/disable-appmenu-global-menu-in-ubuntu.html
[19:04] <urlin2u> citronex, how did you install it?
[19:04] <SikEnCide> ** citronex try using virtual box
[19:04] <citronex> when i click on it, it says Unable to build kernel module.
[19:04] <urlin2u> +1 Vb
[19:05] <citronex> I installed it using terminal
[19:05] <Jarred> jarred@jarred-pc:~$ sudo aplay -l
[19:05] <Jarred> aplay: device_list:240: no soundcards found...
[19:05] <citronex> ./VMware....
[19:05] <Jarred> The sound modules are installed
[19:05] <urlin2u> citronex, then run sudo apt-get purge "the app"
[19:05] <citronex> a friend of mine told me the bundle might have gotten corrupted, so to reintall
[19:06] <koppe> Have installed several wm/desktopm on same computer - including GNOME, KDE, xfce...  Is there a command (or pseudo-package to install) to select the system-wide default?  (I installed them by installing the task(?) for KDE-, GNOME- and xfce-desktops.)
[19:06] <urlin2u> citronex, vrtuaslbox might be a easier option, after you remove the other.
[19:06] <urlin2u> virtualbox
[19:06] <jenk> citronex, Follow urlin2u. 'sudo apt-get purge vmware'
[19:07] <citronex> ok.. on it
[19:07] <battlehands> I am trying to install MATLAB  on my laptop, but I receive errors when trying to do this.  Is there anyone here that is familiar with this process and willing to help?
[19:07] <rabbi1> any suggestion for best theme in gnome for ubuntu 10.04 which takes less space (amd 64)
[19:08] <papna> I have multiple network connections and would like to control which an instance of Firefox uses. How do I do this?
[19:08] <oCean> rabbi1: themes are a matter of personal taste
[19:08] <rabbi1> oCean: yeah, but my preference will be on saving space on desktop
[19:08] <citronex> question, would the purge delete the package I'm using for installation, or would it delete the actual installed program that apperas under Application > System tools
[19:09] <citronex> because when I do tab, it only picks up the bundle i'm using to re-install... i think
[19:09] <urlin2u> citronex, purge just removes the install.
[19:09] <citronex> right
[19:09] <corn-man> Hello
[19:10] <citronex> I have actually redownloaded the install, so I need it
[19:10] <citronex> I want to program out
[19:10] <citronex> whenever I try to re-install using terminal, it tells me I can't bc the program is already installed in my system
[19:10] <urlin2u> citronex, tab will pickup other stuff, personally I don't use it except for manual grub booting
[19:11] <citronex> Urlin2u, thanks for the hint.
[19:11] <urlin2u> citronex, wht did the terminal say when you ran the purge?
[19:11] <citronex> urlin2u: it said "Couldn't find any package by regex 'VMware-Workstation-Full-7.1.2-301548.x86_64.bundle"
[19:12] <citronex> urlin2u: but that's the package I want to use to re-install anyway so I don't want that gone
[19:12] <urlin2u> citronex, did you just try sudo apt-get purge vmware   ?
[19:12] <citronex> urlin2u: when I click on Applications>System Tools, I see there VMware Player and VMware Workstation
[19:13] <urlin2u> citronex, I would look in synaptic as well probably listed as installed .
[19:15] <citronex> urlin2u: I tried sudo apt-get purge vmware and it said "E: Unable to locate package vmware" I tried using synaptic, and deleted two packages from it. I did a search for vmware. should I delete every package that appears for a search on "VMware"?
[19:15] <glebihan> Tonisius, a quick (and kinda ugly) script to do what you wanted : http://paste.ubuntu.com/662903/
[19:15] <urlin2u> citronex, probably I have never use it.
[19:15] <urlin2u> used
[19:16] <urlin2u> citronex, if they are vmware in name though.
[19:17] <Tonisius> glebihan: thank you soooo much
[19:17] <glebihan> Tonisius, you're welcome :)
[19:17] <Tonisius> glebihan: is that last print supposed to be there? or does that just print a new line?
[19:18] <glebihan> Tonisius, it's just there to print a blank line between each window
[19:18] <citronex> urlin2u: I have uninstall every package for VMware, but I still see player and the workstation under system tools... frustrating
[19:18] <joepa> how do I set gmail/chrome as my default mailto link handler in natty/unity? i've tried desktop-webmail and gnome-gmail. neither shows up in preferred apps, and preferred apps no longer allows you to use a custom script
[19:19] <Tonisius> glebihan: and I can augment that script to not print out the lines with the window name of (has no name)
[19:19] <Tonisius> which are a ton load
[19:19]  * Tonisius modifies now
[19:20] <urlin2u> citronex, you have to be careful at picking at a app to remove it, if you remove a key part that is part of the actual removal, it can get difficult to find the rest, I would just install virtualbox and work on the vmware when you can figure it out.
[19:20] <citronex> urlin2u: what is virtualbox for? oh, and I really appreciate all your help
[19:20] <xunling_> when i get mails with fetchmail, all mails go to ~/mail/new
[19:21] <davis> hello
[19:21] <urlin2u> citronex, Vb is a virtial like vmware rather easy to use.
[19:21] <Scunizi> citronex: it's like vmware but easier on a single stand alone machine.
[19:21] <xunling_> how can i point mail with % mail to ~/mail/new ... to recieve mails with mail
[19:21] <Scunizi> citronex: virtualbox.org
[19:21] <davis> i have two desktops on two monitors, but they are clones. How do I set the desktop to be extended on the second monitor?
[19:22] <urlin2u> citronex, get the one from oracle though it has more options. http://www.virtualbox.org/
[19:23] <Tonisius> glebihan: nice, I modified it some more, and cleaned it up a lot
[19:23] <glebihan> Tonisius, great !
[19:24] <BlueWolf> Sorry, How do I get into ubuntu offtopic?
[19:24] <Pici> BlueWolf: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:24] <Tonisius> glebihan: trying one last bit, in python, how do you do the AND operator
[19:24] <BlueWolf> Pici: Thanks Dude :D
[19:24] <skegeek> Should Unity be a desktop option at login?
[19:24] <Tonisius> its not &&
[19:24] <citronex> thank you guys.. downloading virtualbox as we speak
[19:25] <glebihan> Tonisius, with "and"
[19:25] <Tonisius> wow, the word and
[19:25] <Tonisius> hahaha
[19:25] <Tonisius> ok
[19:25] <Tonisius> sorry, I do C and some perl
[19:25] <coco343415> Is there a way for me to set up software so that if a computer needs to borrow system Resources (Ram, processor) form one computer it can over the network?
[19:26] <Tonisius> glebihan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662911/
[19:26] <Tonisius> glebihan: all done, and tested, looks VERY nice, and lists everything in columns as best possible
[19:27] <FoolsRun> Okay, I have a x64 machine that is running an Ubuntu install originally installed on x86 hardware. Apparently this is causing a problem with Java, but when I try to run Java with -d64 I'm told I don't have the 64bit version of Java installed. Can anyone tell me how to install Java for x64?
[19:27] <glebihan> Tonisius, nice :)
[19:28] <Tonisius> glebihan: if you're able to post that up to your own blog or something, it's quite handy at least
[19:28] <citronex> May be someone else has run into the same problems i'm running with vmware:  after installing the bundle using terminal, I get two icons under System Tools - vmware player and wordstation- after I click on either one, I a message box with the following:  Before you can run VMware, several modules must be compiled and loaded into the running kernel
[19:28] <citronex> I click Install
[19:28] <citronex> then..
[19:28] <citronex> Stopping VMWare Services
[19:28] <citronex> Compiling:
[19:28] <citronex> Vistual Machine Monitor <--- Stops here
[19:28] <FloodBot1> citronex: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:28] <Tonisius> Especially for those hard to catch windows.
[19:28] <fowl> FoolsRun: open synaptic and reinstall
[19:28] <Jarred> So I'm having some trouble getting sound to work right. I've posted a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/167568
[19:28] <glebihan> Tonisius, I don't have a blog...
[19:28] <Tonisius> if you did :P
[19:28] <Tonisius> or someone heere does, hahaha
[19:28] <citronex> did not mean to flood. sorry
[19:28] <FoolsRun> fowl: that's it? I read somewhere that I have to use openjdk because sun doesn't support 64bit. Is this accurate?
[19:29] <FoolsRun> fowl: and it's java-common, right?
[19:30] <fowl> FoolsRun: theres like 3 or 4 sun-java-* packages
[19:31] <skegeek> Nevermind, I had confused Unity a bit.
[19:31] <Jarred> I need some help with getting sound to work right. I've outputted all the relevant information to a github gist, https://gist.github.com/2431e505b81bc858ee1c. The issue is that my soundcards aren't being detected by PulseAudio/Alsa, but the modules are loaded
[19:31] <graingert> !question | Guest
[19:32] <JakeR003> how do i know if i'm hardy or gusty user?
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> JakeR003: lsb_release -c
[19:32] <JakeR003> thanks guys
[19:32] <sfalanga> cat /etc/issue
[19:32] <JakeR003> natty
[19:33] <FoolsRun> fowl: I still get "Running a 64-bit JVM is not supported on this platform."
[19:33] <mami> hello
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> hi mami
[19:33] <mami> ok bye
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> Jarred: you have no driver version
[19:34] <Pici> FoolsRun: What exactly is giving you that error?
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> Jarred: give me a sec
[19:34] <FoolsRun> Pici, specifically that error, "java -d64"
[19:34] <Jarred> ActionParsnip, I don't fully understand what you mean.
[19:34] <JakeR003> you guys provide a better support for ubuntu than windows support channels
[19:34] <JakeR003> very helpful
[19:35] <Pici> FoolsRun: What java package did you install?
[19:35] <Jarred> JakeR003, They care more, and understand what's going on under the hood more
[19:35] <JakeR003> yeah this time i'm staying with ubuntu
[19:35] <JakeR003> i worked all day to custimize it for my taste
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> Jarred: http://pastebin.com/t1Q1iShN
[19:35] <FoolsRun> Pici: sun-java6-jre
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> JakeR003: its made for and supported by the community :)
[19:35] <FoolsRun> Pici: and I updated alternatives to use sun
[19:36] <noneabove1182> ive got a problem with my ubuntu not loading for USB (Gets frozen right after copyright line, aka aftern nothing happens) or with my wubi problem which is that it only works after a fresh start and not after any reboot
[19:36] <Pici> FoolsRun: Using update-java-alternatives ?
[19:36] <Death-M0nk> so I just installed chrome for ubuntu 11.04, and it says there is no flash player installed. I thought chrome had it's own flash built in?
[19:36] <FoolsRun> Pici: update-alternatives --config java
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> Jarred: read the output, there is no Alsa driver version.The command I gave will get you to 1.0.24 driver which matches the utils and library version you have
[19:37] <Pici> FoolsRun: Try the command I gave you, that will change all of the java related alternatives.
[19:37] <Jarred> Awesome
[19:37] <Jarred> thanks man
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> Death-M0nk: I always install it anyway.I've seen the same thing
[19:37] <Death-M0nk> that's odd, oh well
[19:37] <FoolsRun> Pici: update-java-alternatives -set ...something?
[19:37] <Death-M0nk> guess I'll just install it
[19:37] <Death-M0nk> thanks for the help
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> Death-M0nk: if you manually installed it then symlink the file into /usr/lib/chromium-browser/plugins   the usual flashplugin-nonfree   or   flashplugin64-installer   should do it for you
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[19:38] <Escherial> hey, does anyone have a suggestion for a nice replacement for the default terminal application?
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> Escherial: guake
[19:39] <noneabove1182> Anyone know how to disable a graphics driver? I've heard that my WUBI isn't working due to my radeon graphics card but im not sure how to disable it
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: add the boot option:    module.blacklist=1
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: eg.    nouveau.blacklist=1
[19:39] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip where do i add this? and is it exactly that ?
[19:39] <Escherial> ActionParsnip: interesting, but not exactly what i had in mind :)
[19:39] <Pici> FoolsRun: use -l first, and then -s to set it
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: same place all other boot options go
[19:40] <gonzales_> just curios how much does your linux take space now?
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | noneabove1182
[19:40] <Escherial> i'm looking more for something that's just like terminal, but that supports having a list of commonly used servers with saved credentials that you can quickly connect to
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> Escherial: you tried it? There is yakuake in KDE too
[19:40] <FoolsRun> Pici: I still get the 64 bit not supported message
[19:40] <malik_> Hi, The pc goes mute when reducing volume with the volume slider at about 20%
[19:40] <malik_> Can someone tell me why is it so/
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> Escherial: oh like an SSH client for multiple servers?
[19:41] <Escherial> i think it's the fact that i don't particularly need the terminal to drop down on a keypress. i'll try it and see if i like it, though
[19:41] <Escherial> yeah, exactly :)
[19:41] <FoolsRun> Pici: openjdk gives a similar message.
[19:41] <bj_penn> i did ./configure to install an app, but it said i needed a C compiler, so I googled how to get a C compiler, and it told me to apt-get install build-essentials. I did that, and I have a crap load of unmet dependancies, what do i do?
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> Escherial: you should have said that! Gimme a sec
[19:41] <kerim> how can i swap boot order every boot up ?,
[19:41] <Pici> FoolsRun: Is this a 32 or 64 bit Ubuntu install?
[19:41] <bj_penn> and for all those unmet dependancies, when i try to apt-get install those, they have more unmet dependancies
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> Escherial: http://shibuvarkala.blogspot.com/2010/02/how-to-manage-multiple-ssh-connections.html
[19:41] <Escherial> ActionParsnip: i appreciate the help :) i'd look myself, but i don't really know how to differentiate the good from the bad
[19:42] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip so sorry do i add module.blacklist=1 or nouveau.blacklist=1 ?
[19:42] <bj_penn> so its an endless chain of unmet dependancies, how do you guys deal with that?
[19:42] <Escherial> ActionParsnip: ah, that's neat :) i'm using unity, but perhaps it'll work with that too somehow?
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: well which module do you want to blacklist. Use THAT name. I only used that as an EXAMPLE
[19:42] <ozeer> were is a french server ?
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: i have a near zero chance of huessing the module you want to block
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> !fr | ozeer
[19:42] <h00k> bj_penn: it's not endless, it only gets what it needs.
[19:43] <ozeer> thanks
[19:43] <h00k> bj_penn: also, is the software you're compiling available in the repos?
[19:43] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip well i want to clock the RADEON driver, will i just see that obviously then?
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> Escherial: possibly, I don't use unity
[19:43] <bj_penn> h00k, build-essentials
[19:43] <quem> hmm... why did ubottu
[19:43] <quem> oh.
[19:43] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip just wanna get the info before restarting
[19:43] <FoolsRun> Pici: Heh. 32bit apparently. That would explain it.
[19:43] <quem> uniquement
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: if it's the open radeon driver then you will  add:  radeon.blacklist=1
[19:43] <quem> this channel triggers my hilight a lot.
[19:43] <Pici> FoolsRun: That would do it.
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: if it;s the proprietary driver then it will be different
[19:44] <sfalanga> GnuCash v2.4.2 (shipped with 11.04) has broken stylesheet functionality.  Images are no longer working as they did in v2.2.9.  Ideas?
[19:45] <FoolsRun> Pici: so I need to install and set a 64bit kernel?
[19:46] <CharlieSu> This question is for anyone familiar w/ Samba.  I'm sharing some folders using Samba and want to know if it is possible to do password authentication for passwords managed in a flat file instead of the normal passwd implementation.
[19:46] <Pici> FoolsRun: Yes, you'll need to download the 64bit instal media and use that.
[19:46] <FoolsRun> Pici: so I can't just apt-get something
[19:46] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip alright thanks ill check it out
[19:46] <bj_penn> anyone know how to deal with unmet dependancies? it seems that im trying to install a basic package and theres so many unmet dependancies. is there a way to apt-get install and have it install all the dependancies>
[19:46] <bj_penn> ?
[19:46] <edbian> CharlieSu: There is a #samba
[19:46] <Kindari> Alright, I have no idea how someone fucked this up, but as root (or anyone else) I can't do anything on a machine. Can't even cd. Cant go to / or anything, everything returhs permission denied, including trying to use chmod, su or sudo. Assuming I'm going to need to recover using a livecd or such, but not sure what I should do. Any ideas, anyone?
[19:46] <Pici> FoolsRun: No. As all of your packages are compiled for 32bits, you can't just grab the 64bit kernel.
[19:47] <edbian> bj_penn: That's what apt-get does by default.  What package is this?
[19:47] <FoolsRun> Pici: okay, thanks.
[19:47] <edbian> bj_penn: sudo apt-get <packageName> should get the package and everything that's needed for that package.
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> bj_penn: try:  sudo apt-get -f install
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> sfalanga: is there a bug reported?
[19:48] <bj_penn> edbian, im root
[19:48] <bj_penn> do i still need to type sudo?
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> bj_penn: no, you should restrict your root usage
[19:48] <Galvatron> Kindari: Mind your language. Probably a system reinstall will be the simplest and quickest solution.
[19:48] <edbian> bj_penn: not if you're root.  How did you become root though?
[19:49] <h00k> bj_penn: what are you trying to compile?
[19:49] <bj_penn> i typed sudo su
[19:49] <bj_penn> i have this app sudo installed
[19:49] <edbian> bj_penn: alright then.  apt-get install <packageName>
[19:49] <bj_penn> edbian it gives me this:
[19:49] <edbian> bj_penn: yeah, sudo is installed by default in ubuntu
[19:49] <Kindari> Sorry about the language, Galvatron. Any other ideas besides reinstalling?
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> Kindari: you can boot to liveCD and chown / chmod stuff, sounds like a real mess and reinstalling will give a more solid OS
[19:50] <bj_penn> http://pastebin.com/YLUy4tLG
[19:50] <zombie_> :p
[19:50] <h00k> bj_penn: what are you trying to compile? What version of Ubuntu are you on?
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> bj_penn: what is the output of:   lsb_release -c
[19:50] <JakeR003> how to check the running services in the terminal ?
[19:51] <bj_penn> root@ocean:~/rt-4.0.1# lsb_release -c
[19:51] <bj_penn> Codename:       maverick
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> JakeR003: ps -ef | less
[19:51] <swordp3> Is there a way to share computing power from a Server to older computers with Ubuntu?
[19:51] <Galvatron> Kindari: Reinstall, then use Clonezilla, so next times it will take a few minutes to recover.
[19:51] <bj_penn> cat etc/issue gives me Ubuntu 10.10 \n \l
[19:51] <JakeR003> thanks cool
[19:52] <h00k> bj_penn: is what you're trying to compile in the repos?
[19:52] <bj_penn> build-essentail
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> swordp3: you can run an ssh server and have people connect and run graphical apps (like web browsers), the clients will need X servers (Desktop Linux OSes have this) and the app will show on the client but be processed on the server. Is this what you mean?
[19:52] <bj_penn> build-essential
[19:52] <bj_penn> to get a c compiler
[19:52] <bj_penn> so i can eventually install request tracker
[19:52] <Jarred> ActionParsnip, I compiled it and all, it was successful but I"m still having the same issue
[19:53] <Jarred> ActionParsnip, Sound Preferences doesn't detect any devices
[19:53] <seancron_laptop> I'm getting a kernel panic when I suspend my laptop. I think it's because I installed VirtualBox 4.1.x. I'm running 10.04. Has anyone else had this problem?
[19:53] <Jarred> ActionParsnip, (and restarted my computer for good measure)
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> !info gcc-4.4 maverick
[19:53] <Pici> !info request-tracker maverick
[19:53] <Pici> !info request-tracker3.8 maverick
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> Jarred: does the alsa info script now show an alsa driver version?
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> bj_penn: do you have the main repository enabled?
[19:54] <bj_penn> ActionParsnip, how do i check?
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> bj_penn: open software centre
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> bj_penn: did you try: sudo apt-get -f install    to pull in the deps?
[19:55] <bj_penn> i haven't tried that yet
[19:55] <bj_penn> let me try that
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> bj_penn: I did say it earlier......
[19:55] <bj_penn> ahh must have missed that, sorry
[19:56] <chris_w> How's everyone today?
[19:56] <bj_penn> ActionParsnip, thanks for repeating it :P
[19:56] <Jarred> ActionParsnip,  It outputted much less this time --> http://pastie.org/2351992
[19:56] <h00k> !compile | bj_penn
[19:56] <Jarred> oh wait
[19:56] <Jarred> hold on
[19:56] <Jarred> ActionParsnip, There's no driver version
[19:57] <Jarred> http://pastie.org/2351999
[19:57] <chris_w> quit
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> Jarred: you need one in there dude
[19:57] <Jarred> I know, but how do I do that?
[19:57] <Jarred> It compiled and installed successfully
[19:57] <Jarred> I added the switch -j 4 to make it compile with all four cores
[19:57] <Jarred> but that's the only thing I changed
[20:01] <dsafds> c.gr
[20:01] <skegeek> Is there a known bug for MySQLAdmin when trying to create a new user?
[20:01] <Jarred> ActionParsnip, I really do appreciate your help.
[20:02] <JakeR003> guys when i do ifconfig where is the gateway?
[20:02] <JakeR003> i don't see it
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> Jarred: there may be guides nline. I seem to remember a script to run and fix it. Lets see if we can find it
[20:02] <Jarred> Alright
[20:03] <skegeek> I don't suppose a wallet application would track mysql user/pass's?
[20:03] <rabbi1> which is the best way to install latest (L)AMP on ubutu 10.04 ?
[20:04] <daedra> hi there. I am having a font problem. Anything which uses ttf fonts e.g. firefox, pdf readers renders fonts improperly. What do you  recommend to fix it?
[20:04] <Jarred> I"m looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=475013&page=2
[20:05] <Jarred> I'm going to see if maybe i can configure it with gnome-alsamixer
[20:05] <Galvatron> daedra: Define "improperly"
[20:05] <Jarred> Gnome-alsamixer just segfaults
[20:05] <enoex> rockon
[20:05] <daedra> Galvatron: I seem to be suffering from certain letters not rendering. Instead of S and s I get a black box
[20:05] <davekong> When I click on "Settings" in the window for update manager I get logged out and put back at the log in screen. Is this a bug? Where would I report this?
[20:06] <kingofswords> is there an eq addon for the sound mixer in ubuntu?
[20:07] <daedra> Galvatron: any ideas? Cool IRC name btw :)
[20:07] <zykotick9> kingofswords, see http://www.webupd8.org/2010/02/pulseaudio-system-wide-equalizer-now.html
[20:08] <Jarred> I'm, looking at http://lkubuntu.wordpress.com/2011/07/20/sound-troubleshooting/
[20:08] <kingofswords> zykotick9, thx
[20:09] <kingofswords> whats ppa btw?
[20:09] <kernelpanicker> esc on boot isn't launching GRUB... any suggestions?  (I'm trying to crack the password as it's lost for this laptop)
[20:09] <zykotick9> !ppa | kingofswords
[20:09] <kingofswords> so do i not nned to dl the ppa?
[20:09] <Determinist> what would be a sensible location to put shared files on an ubuntu based file server?
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> kingofswords: if you add the ppa you can install the app
[20:10] <kingofswords> ActionParsnip, but isnt the ppa already listed in my software sources?
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> Determinist: /opt would be my recommendation, if you have a partition purely for data then use that
[20:10] <kernelpanicker> well... to be more specific, esc puts it into grub for a millisecond then proceeds into normal gui boot screen.
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> kingofswords: no, its a 3rd party ppa
[20:10] <daedra> hi there. I am having a font problem. Anything which uses ttf fonts e.g. firefox, pdf readers renders fonts improperly. What do you  recommend to fix it? Black boxes get rendered instead of certain letters
[20:10] <kingofswords> ah ok
[20:11] <Determinist> ActionParsnip: using mdadm raid 10 over 4 hdds, separate boot raid 1 partition. trying to set up a file server for multiple users, each of which is going to have their own home dir, but i also want shared directories, not just personal home dirs.
[20:11] <Jarred> Maybe I'll just use Arch
[20:12] <magnadoodle> I just upgraded to Natty and now my built-in webcam isn't detected. I type in lsusb in the command line and there is no webcam. Anyone have any ideas? I'm thinking of reinstalling 10.04, but I'm afraid that I might lose all my data.
[20:12] <JakeR003> is there a GUI utility that will show the running services in details ?
[20:13] <daedra> any ideas?
[20:14] <edbian> JakeR003: gnome system monitor
[20:14] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip so what you suggested worked, and i was wondering if there was a more permanent way of doing that instead of having to enter it every time ?
[20:14] <kingofswords> zykotick9, thx it worked
[20:15] <edbian> magnadoodle: look at the output of dmesg (at the bottom) unplug it, plug it in, look at the bottom of dmesg again.  Did it have any effect??.
[20:15] <edbian> noneabove1182: Hi
[20:15] <edbian> noneabove1182: progress?
[20:15] <noneabove1182> Actionparnip what you suggested was the radeon.blacklist=1 btw
[20:15] <Galvatron> daedra: Try right-click > Change dektop background > Fonts Also make sure you don't miss any packages for a given language.
[20:15] <rabbi1> running compiz gives me nothing./... :(
[20:15] <noneabove1182> ActionPasnip ^
[20:15] <noneabove1182> edbian hey
[20:15] <edbian> noneabove1182: stupid radeon :P
[20:15] <magnadoodle> edbian: Unfortunately I cannot turn off/on the webcam. It is built-in to the laptop and there aren't any switches for it either.
[20:16] <noneabove1182> edbian uh well, wubi seems to work when i use radeon.blacklist=1 haha
[20:16] <edbian> noneabove1182: Not able to boot USB?  I think your motherboard doesn't support it which is stupid
[20:16] <noneabove1182> edbian but usb still not working, maybe itll work if i use the CD later
[20:16] <edbian> magnadoodle: does it showup in the output of lspci ?
[20:16] <edbian> noneabove1182: I was reading.  This is a common problem with HP machines.  The liveCD has worked for others.
[20:16] <noneabove1182> edbian im on the train omw home so ill give it a shot when i get there since im 99% sure ive got a few dvdcds to spare
[20:16] <JakeR003> edbian yeah right thank you. hahaha
[20:16] <JakeR003> system monitor
[20:16] <JakeR003> i forgot about it
[20:16] <edbian> noneabove1182: sure
[20:16] <magnadoodle> edbian: No it does not.
[20:17] <edbian> JakeR003: :)
[20:17] <noneabove1182> edbian awesome, i hope so, and i hope i dont need to do the blacklist thing with it XD
[20:17] <edbian> magnadoodle: ooh, bad sign.  Can you pastebin the output of dmesg  ?
[20:17] <edbian> noneabove1182: You might have to :P
[20:17] <JakeR003> i'm very exicted on what i achived till now
[20:17] <JakeR003> i keep forgeting
[20:17] <JakeR003> i want to do everything at once
[20:17] <Galvatron> magnadoodle: Have you tried googling after uour camera? Some vendors provide drivers for Linux as well.
[20:17] <Galvatron> *your
[20:17] <noneabove1182> grr.. XD so annoying, wish there was a way to have it permanently blacklisted...
[20:18] <edbian> noneabove1182: but you can also sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-radeon     Then you won't have to blacklist radeon at all
[20:18] <Galvatron> noneabove1182: What is your issue with "radeon" driver?
[20:18] <noneabove1182> woah what? okay so just at any time put that into ther terminal and then itll be solved?
[20:18] <noneabove1182> edbian ^
[20:18] <edbian> noneabove1182: Remove the package.  If you still have an issue you can put it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[20:18] <noneabove1182> galvatron well
[20:18] <RyanP> I have a machine with dual power supplies. Is there any consistent way to verify both are working?
[20:18] <edbian> noneabove1182: run that command and radeon won't be on your system so you won't need to blacklist it
[20:19] <noneabove1182> galvatron wubi doesnt load properly if i dont put radeon on blacklist it seems
[20:19] <magnadoodle> edbian: http://pastebin.com/D0dRpz0s
[20:19] <noneabove1182> edbian and this wont affect my windows partition? just feel i should check
[20:19] <edbian> magnadoodle: reading...
[20:19] <edbian> noneabove1182: No of course not.  It's just removing a package :)
[20:19] <magnadoodle> Galvatron: I think the current issue is that the webcam is not being detected at all.
[20:19] <noneabove1182> edbian alright well ill give it a shot i suppose ! haha
[20:20] <MalelDraconis> Hey guys, I'm trying to install Chromium OS as a second OS on this comp, but I'm having a problem with partitioning..  I opened gparted from Ubuntu, and it looks like the partition that I'm wanting to install to is where the boot files are located, not the partition for Ubuntu for some reason..  and it's NTFS and won't let me format it...  will this be different when I go to install Chromium OS?
[20:20] <edbian> magnadoodle: the camera is recognized (line 849 on your dmesg).  Does it work in cheese??
[20:21] <Loshki> RyanP: also ask on #hardware...
[20:21] <edbian> MalelDraconis: Do not install over any of your partitions, create a new one.  You cannot edit partitions that are mounted.  That's why you can't format it.
[20:21] <magnadoodle> edbian: Cheese doesn't even startup
[20:21] <edbian> magnadoodle: run it in a term.  What does it say?
[20:21] <noneabove1182> edbian alright i ran the command, gonna reboot and come back on, and hopefully ill be on freenode on ubuntu! XD
[20:21] <edbian> noneabove1182: sure
[20:21] <RyanP> Loshki: thanks
[20:21] <MalelDraconis> edbian, it's an empty partition with nothing other than the boot files on it...  but it's /dev/sda1
[20:21] <Galvatron> noneabove1182: Dump Wubi and use a normal installation.
[20:22] <edbian> MalelDraconis: I'm not sure why you have a separate /boot partition or why it matters.  Don't install chrome OS on that partition, that should be obvious
[20:22] <magnadoodle> edbian: n/m it starts up now. It has a big red dot with a white bar and there is a message that says no device found.
[20:22] <daedra> Galvatron: how do I check I don't miss any packages for a given language?
[20:22] <Galvatron> magnadoodl: Check if this camera is not disabled in BIOS.
[20:22] <MalelDraconis> well, it won't let me resize the partition or anything either... so I don't have a way to give enough room for Chromium
[20:22] <daedra> I suspect fonts have broken since my last update
[20:23] <adamgie007> yo
[20:23] <edbian> magnadoodle: I'm afraid I can't help more.  All i can say for sure is that the camera is seen by the OS and that a driver is loaded for it.  I don't know if that driver is working
[20:23] <edbian> magnadoodle: fiddle around with the settings of cheese
[20:23] <magnadoodle> Galvatron: I went in there and there isn't a selection for it.
[20:23] <adamgie007> how to install ts3 on ubuntu?
[20:23] <Galvatron> daedra: Get into language options and check if it won't ask you for a permission to install something.
[20:24] <magnadoodle> Galvatron: You might be right where edbian is suggesting that the driver is bad.
[20:24] <adamgie007> how to install ts3 on ubuntu?
[20:24] <noneabove1182_> edbian k so the good news is... im still on ubuntu! XD the bad news is that i had to go and blacklist again :P
[20:24] <MalelDraconis> edbian, it's a 75 GB partition that has nothing on it, and won't let me resize to create a new partition...
[20:24] <magnadoodle> edbian: Ok. I'll try fiddling with it a little more. Thanks for your help.
[20:25] <skegeek> I notice SysCP only has "Ubuntu Hardy 8.04" under server configuration - I assume that will make a difference since I'm actually using Natty?
[20:25] <edbian> noneabove1182_: make an entry in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[20:25] <edbian> MalelDraconis: If you can't edit it, it's mounted
[20:25] <edbian> magnadoodle: sure
[20:26] <MalelDraconis> edbian: so any idea how I'm supposed to create space to install Chromium on?
[20:26] <noneabove1182_> edbian where do i find that sorry ?
[20:26] <adamgie007> could i install ts on ubuntu?
[20:26] <adamgie007> teamspeak?
[20:26] <luis__> can anyone on a 64 bit system tell me if they can browse jmol applets such as: http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms/  please
[20:27] <noneabove1182_> edbian nvm found it
[20:27] <edbian> MalelDraconis: use a liveCD (or the chromium installer).  Using a liveCD none of the partitions are mounted
[20:27] <edbian> noneabove1182_: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf it's a file
[20:28] <edbian> noneabove1182_: oh good
[20:28] <mang0> Cya, I'm off for today, need some time to read!
[20:28] <noneabove1182_> edbian just had trouble finding etc :P so how do i edit it? it opens as read only, gonna keep looking but if you answer before i find.. yea XD
[20:28] <MalelDraconis> edbian, ok, so when I'm actually installing from boot it won't be a problem? what about the boot loader?
[20:29] <noneabove1182_> edbian yea cant find how to edit it ><
[20:30] <edbian> noneabove1182_: gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[20:30] <noneabove1182_> im assuming in terminal? haha
[20:30] <edbian> MalelDraconis: The bootloader should be part of the chromium installer.  (any decent os would).  This is not chrome OS support thought so IDK
[20:31] <edbian> noneabove1182_: yes
[20:31] <edbian> noneabove1182_: That opens a text editor (gedit) as root gksudo
[20:31] <MalelDraconis> edbian, thanks for the help, know of a Chromium OS channel?
[20:31] <noneabove1182_> woah got a bunch of errors on my terminal
[20:32] <noneabove1182_> edbian^
[20:32] <edbian> MalelDraconis: #chromium-os
[20:32] <edbian> noneabove1182_: probably just garabage from gedit
[20:32] <noneabove1182_> edbian but it was saved.. so should i just try to reboot?
[20:32] <edbian> noneabove1182_: did gedit open with the file in it?
[20:32] <edbian> noneabove1182_: yeah, what did you add to the file?
[20:32] <noneabove1182_> blacklist radeon
[20:33] <noneabove1182_> edbian^
[20:33] <noneabove1182_> edbian ^ forgot space lol, not sure if that changes things
[20:33] <edbian> noneabove1182_: that's good
[20:33] <afief> I just did sudo rm /initrd.img* by mistake, how bad is this? can I recover the files?
[20:33] <noneabove1182_> edbian awesome, alright ill reboot and well see what happens?
[20:34] <noneabove1182_> edbian just wanna make sure theres not other step
[20:35] <edbian> noneabove1182_: reboot :)
[20:35] <luis__> can anyone on a 64 bit system tell me if they can browse jmol applets such as: http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms/
[20:35] <noneabove1182_> edbian alrighty brb :)
[20:35] <Galvatron> afief: Try reinstalling kernel.
[20:35] <edbian> cya
[20:35] <wigglez> k
[20:36] <bigballa420> k
[20:36] <afief> Galvatron: how do I do that?
[20:36] <justTesting> hi
[20:37] <justTesting> hello
[20:37] <Tesla> hi
[20:37] <noneabove1182> edbian it worked!!! though of course now i feel i should bring up one minor problem now, but i can ask someone else for help especially if its not in your field :P
[20:38] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip thanks to you too for your help with the initial blacklist!
[20:38] <edbian> noneabove1182: What is the problem?
[20:38] <calwig> Hi, how can i get help installing Skype 2.2.0.35-1 on Hardy 8.04?
[20:38] <wigglez> what are the general group names that i should include when adding a new user under command line?
[20:38] <calwig> I get a libasound2 dependency is not satisfiable status
[20:38] <Galvatron> afief: Go to Synaptic, tyle "linux", sort by instlled/not installed (first column) find installed packages with "linux headers" and "linux image" in their names and finally mark them for reinstallation.
[20:39] <noneabove1182> edbian well i hadnt done the update of all stuffs yet so now when im trying to run it its encountering an error: E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[20:39] <zykotick9> calwig, FYI Hardy is no long supported see !eol
[20:39] <noneabove1182> edbian its just since it had worked in all previous renditions of wubi so i felt i should bring it up due to our messing around :P
[20:39] <calwig> zykotick9: ok i guess i may just look online on forums
[20:39] <edbian> noneabove1182: that happens sometimes just purge the apt lists.  sudo rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[20:39] <noneabove1182> edbian still though thank you so much for all your help today and previous days!
[20:40] <edbian> noneabove1182: the sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:40] <zykotick9> calwig, the real issue is you are using a distro that doesn't get security updates
[20:40] <calwig> zykotick9: I had Skype installed on hardy before, but I reformatted my pc and set up Hardy again (because all other newer versions dont boot)
[20:40] <edbian> noneabove1182: Finally, a piece of advice.  I strongly suggest you burn that liveCD and try to install Ubuntu proper.  Do not get confortable with this wubi install unless you have to
[20:40] <calwig> zykotick9: well i may upgrade to something in years, this version works 99% to what i need
[20:40] <edbian> noneabove1182: You'll find it is harder to fix problems when they come up.
[20:41] <calwig> I guess those updates may be needed of course
[20:41] <luis__> can anyone on a 64 bit system tell me if they can browse jmol applets such as: http://jmol.sourceforge.net/demo/atoms/  please.
[20:41] <noneabove1182> edbian ah.. fair enough, ill give it a shot as soon as i get home! but if it doesnt work then this will be fine right ?
[20:42] <noneabove1182> edbian weird i got the same error near the end after doing update
[20:42] <noneabove1182> edbian the one with no package
[20:42] <edbian> noneabove1182: it is a matter of time before you wish you didn't settle for wubi
[20:42] <edbian> noneabove1182: what error?
[20:42] <noneabove1182> edbian the one E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[20:43] <noneabove1182> edbian and fair enough haha, but i think if this is all that works ill be fine with it, of course i will try the CD, but i figured if i encounter too many problems ill just stick with wubi
[20:43] <afief> Galvatron: Thanks a million! it was recovered! I started to freak out because I need my laptop to run these days and don't have time to fiddle with stuff
[20:43] <edbian> noneabove1182: again?!  that's the same error.  purge the stupid lists again: sudo rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[20:43] <edbian> noneabove1182: alright :)
[20:44] <afief> Galvatron: can invite you to a beer and pizza?
[20:44] <cray> hi
[20:45] <noneabove1182> edbian gah same thing except for a different mergelist DX want me to just wait until i try the live CD and then if that doesnt work try to fix this? :P
[20:46] <justTesting> hi scooby
[20:46] <darkien> hola a todos
[20:46] <darkien> quien habla español
[20:46] <edbian> noneabove1182: sudo rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[20:46] <edbian> noneabove1182: Then pastebin the output of ls /var/lib/apt/lists/
[20:46] <h00k> !es | darkien
[20:47] <noneabove1182> well there was no output sooo.. haha
[20:47] <noneabove1182> edbian ^
[20:47] <edbian> noneabove1182: Good, sudo apt-get update
[20:47] <edbian> noneabove1182: Making sure you deleted them ;)
[20:47] <noneabove1182> edbian third times the charm? XD
[20:47] <edbian> noneabove1182: hopefully
[20:48] <justTesting> hi scooby
[20:48] <edbian> hi shaggy
[20:48] <noneabove1182> edbian either way i think like you said before i use this too much ill try the CD, i mean, if i get everything working right here then end up deleting it all.. massive waste of time XD
[20:49] <edbian> noneabove1182: good point
[20:49] <edbian> noneabove1182: Did sudo apt-get update error again?
[20:49] <noneabove1182> edbian though ill probably have to blacklist radeon on the new one if it works anyways so its good i learnt that :)
[20:49] <noneabove1182> edbian yes lol
[20:49] <noneabove1182> edbian very weird..
[20:49] <edbian> noneabove1182: use a different server
[20:49] <Ogi0n> hi i  bought a new harddrive its 1TB, and now im ready to format it but windows is asking me whether i should use MBR or GPT, should i pick GPT even though its not larger than 2TB?
[20:49] <edbian> noneabove1182: The list on the server is bad
[20:49] <edbian> and delete the lists again
[20:49] <edbian> noneabove1182: sudo rm -r /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[20:49] <noneabove1182> edbian how do i use a different server?
[20:50] <edbian> Where did they put the server chooser thing in 11.04?
[20:50] <edbian> noneabove1182: I don't remember, I asked the channel
[20:50] <noneabove1182> edbian k well apparently im about to be home (train) in like 5 min so i guess no time for this :P
[20:50] <edbian> noneabove1182: ok
[20:50] <edbian> cya
[20:50] <noneabove1182> edbian ill give the liveCD a shot and if it doesnt work come looking for you ;P
[20:51] <edbian> noneabove1182: eventually the server will fix their lists
[20:51] <noneabove1182> edbian thank you so so much for your help though!!
[20:51] <edbian> noneabove1182: I will be back on in about 30 minutes
[20:53] <celltech> What's a good free sdk program so I can develop apps and stuff?
[20:53] <h00k> !info eclipse | celltech
[20:54] <celltech> Can i use it to also make a private iphone app?
[20:54] <genericman> Hi guys, anyone around who can point me in the right direction?  I'm following some relatively easy instructions on installing coreavc to mplayer, but I got stuck when it said "cd <path to mplayer source code>" . . .not sure where that is.  I used the basic "sudo apt-get mplayer", but I'm not sure if that's even relevant.
[20:54] <h00k> celltech: you'll have to check requirements for the Apple SDK, I don't know
[20:55] <soupeee> On 11.04 I get "Waiting for sound system to respond" when I click the speaker icon and the click "Sound Preferences"
[20:56] <celltech> hmmm... yeah cause I don't wanna join the dev team
[20:57] <soupeee> But my sound is OK. Alsa is config'd and mplayer and flash videos work OK. Yes, I have deleted the .pulse folder.
[20:59] <ubuntu> test :)
[21:00] <tcsadmin> anyone here use centrify express to join ubuntu server to AD?
[21:01] <babilen> tcsadmin: You probably want #ubuntu-server
[21:01] <tcsadmin> tks
[21:03] <genericman> Sorry to restate my question, but can anyone explain to me where I'd find the mplayer source code path? under a basic sudo apt-get installation, would it be under /bin/mplayer/, or is this something different?
[21:04] <soupeee> ok, I just fixed it(I think) Went to Sys>Prefs>Startup and add the /usr/bin/pulseaudio command.
[21:07]  * soupeee outtahere!
[21:08] <KE1HA> genericman: not 100% on this but, if your compiling coreav by hand then asking for the mplayer sources, your probably not going to have them if you used apt-get to install mplayer, as that's a binary installaiton, not installing from the source tree.
[21:08] <justtesting> hi scooby
[21:09] <genericman> oh, okay.  How would you suggest I get this source tree then?
[21:09] <justtesting> hi scooby
[21:10] <justtesting> hi scooby
[21:10] <bytetrial> hi, hows it going
[21:10] <jrib> !source > genericman
[21:10] <KE1HA> you download the tar.gz file, but I'd look around for a plugin / binary module that's already compile else your gonna have to compile mplayer from scratch I'd think, which can be a pain.
[21:12] <Reaper> are there any good torrent programs for linux?
[21:12] <photon> RealEyes: Transmission
[21:12] <edbian> Reaper: transmission and deluge
[21:12] <Reaper> cool, thanx
[21:12] <sudokill> transmission is the lightest and simplest
[21:13] <iceroot> sudokill: not the lightest
[21:13] <sudokill> afaik it is
[21:13] <sudokill> i think it uses less ram than rtorrent even
[21:13] <iceroot> sudokill: transmission-cli, rtorrent (cli) and so on
[21:14] <sudokill> but im talking gui
[21:14] <Reaper> I should get transmission daemon if im running ubuntu right?
[21:14] <rww> Reaper: use the 'transmission' package
[21:15] <sudokill> Reaper- what do you want? just a basic gui torrent client?
[21:15] <edbian> Reaper: you don't need the daemon
[21:15] <photon> Isn't it installed by default anyway?
[21:15] <Reaper> so sudo apt-get install transmission?
[21:15] <iceroot> sudokill: ok for the gui you may be right
[21:15] <photon> Check Applications - Internet
[21:15] <edbian> Reaper: yes, it might already be installed
[21:15] <photon> I'm pretty sure I didn't have to install it.
[21:16] <Reaper> nah, its not installed, I just tried it but Ill get it now.
[21:16] <Reaper> thanx for the help
[21:16] <sudokill> its been default for a long time afaik
[21:16] <sudokill> maybe it changed in 11.04 idk
[21:18] <Reaper> that worked, thanx again
[21:18] <edbian> Reaper: sure
[21:21] <ronny_> ~ghf-mfn-nbmf@22flgh0052
[21:22] <sudokill> ronny_- whats that?
[21:22] <orange> just installed Ubuntu 11.04 on a laptop (my first Ubuntu after many years with linux) and it's perplexing me... sound works just fine, but the gnome terminal will not issue any beep sound of any type.  I have "Terminal Bell" on in the profile preferences.  I have a working alert sound (tested in settings->sound->sound effects)
[21:22] <orange> but echo -e '\a' makes no sound at all
[21:22] <orange> no pc speaker, no system alert sound
[21:23] <orange> oh, and alert volume in settings->sound->sound effects is at like 75%
[21:23] <Reaper> echo -e \a
[21:23] <mcbtay> i'm having some trouble with my wireless in ubuntu 11.04. anyone available to offer help?
[21:23] <orange> Reaper: yeah, that's silent
[21:23] <|Slacker|> mcbtay: shoot
[21:23] <edbian> mcbtay: Let's do it.
[21:23] <YankDownUnder> BANG!
[21:23] <edbian> mcbtay: What card do you have?
[21:23] <BlueWolf> Can anybody recommend a simple start up Ubuntu accounting package for very small business?
[21:23]  * edbian aaaaarrrghghghghg
[21:23]  * |Slacker| falls dead
[21:23] <YankDownUnder> BlueWolf, Invoices - basically? Or the real deal accounting?
[21:24] <mcbtay> product: Centrino Wireless-N 1000
[21:24] <mcbtay> rfkill list all is showing that my wireless and bluetooth are softblocked
[21:24] <edbian> BlueWolf: gnucash
[21:24] <edbian> mcbtay: mcbtay sudo rfkill unblock
[21:24] <BlueWolf> Real deal small auto workshop - basic debtors, creditors, cash transactions - no bank account but about $5000/month turnover?
[21:25] <edbian> mcbtay: Will unblock them.  I think you need to put the number
[21:25] <mcbtay> will i have to do this everytime?
[21:25] <edbian> mcbtay: no
[21:25] <|Slacker|> nope
[21:25] <sav_> Oh God, I reformatted my external and now it won't mount.
[21:25] <sav_> Halp
[21:25] <edbian> mcbtay: But I think you need to put the index number.  sudo rfkill unblock 0    or whatever
[21:26] <edbian> sav_: can you pastebin sudo fdisk -l   ?
[21:26] <jetscreamer> check the uuid sav_ , it's probably being mounted with the old one
[21:26] <ResQue> How can i open a folder in the GUI (gnome) from the bash shell
[21:26] <edbian> ResQue: nautilus /path/to/file/
[21:26] <sav_> Thank you. How would I do that?
[21:26] <sudokill> ResQue- what do you mean "open" ?
[21:26] <edbian> sav_: run the command and copy / paste it here: paste.ubuntu.com
[21:26] <luis__> quit
[21:26] <sudokill> my bad i read that wrong
[21:26] <edbian> luis__: join
[21:26] <ResQue> edbian: thanks just what i was looking for
[21:27] <edbian> ResQue: sure
[21:27] <sav_> Oh, it's a terminal command. Okay.
[21:27] <BlueWolf> edbian: Real deal small auto workshop - basic debtors, creditors, cash transactions - no bank account but about $5000/month turnover?
[21:27] <edbian> sav_: yep
[21:27] <YankDownUnder> BlueWolf, gnucash, sql-ledger, Tryton => just a few
[21:27] <edbian> BlueWolf: Just look through the ubuntu software center.  You'll find one that works.
[21:27] <sav_> Uh, I don't have the package.
[21:27] <loculinux> hi
[21:27] <edbian> sav_: what package?
[21:27] <BlueWolf> Did that too huge a choice?
[21:27] <sav_> It tells me I need to install it.
[21:27] <YankDownUnder> BlueWolf, Not too huge a choice mate... ;)
[21:28] <edbian> BlueWolf: what?
[21:28] <edbian> sav_: you need to install what?
[21:28] <mcbtay> just the once?
[21:28] <mcbtay> edbian: yeah i've unblocked them now, you think a reboot is in order?
[21:28] <sav_> uuid
[21:28] <BlueWolf> there are a few there and can't decide which one is the simplest?
[21:28] <sudokill> sav_- uuid isnt something you install
[21:28] <sav_> Well it says it is.
[21:28] <edbian> mcbtay: you shouldn't have to reboot.  You won't have to do it more than once.  Make sure nothing is blocked in sudo rfkill list
[21:29] <edbian> sav_: sudo fdisk -l in a paste.ubuntu.com please :)
[21:29] <YankDownUnder> BlueWolf, I'd go with Tryton, mate...but if you're not comfy doing a setup like that, you might want to check out "sql-ledger" - a bit more simple to setup and use.
[21:29] <mcbtay> edbian: it works! you're the man!
[21:29] <edbian> mcbtay: sure
[21:29] <BlueWolf> many thanks wil do
[21:30] <sav_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/662980/
[21:30] <edbian> sav_: reading...
[21:30] <sav_> edbian: Thank you
[21:30] <edbian> sav_: Is that the entire output?  It only lists one hdd
[21:31] <YankDownUnder> BlueWolf, There's also "Quasar Accounting" from Canada...again...it's a bit of a setup, but once you've got it going, you're a happy camper.
[21:31] <sav_> Yup
[21:31] <sav_> edbian: Yup
[21:31] <edbian> sav_: What is the issue?
[21:31] <BlueWolf> thanks but not into camping! wil try that
[21:32] <sav_> edbian: The external won't mount. Anywhere. Not even on my mom's Windows computer
[21:32] <edbian> sav_: It's USB?  You said you reformatted it?
[21:32] <YankDownUnder> BlueWolf, Also, my friend, check out: http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/Applications/Business/11420/
[21:32] <sav_> edbian: Yup, to FAT 32
[21:33] <sav_> edbian: Although it gave me an error message about not specifying the format
[21:33] <sav_> edbian: I don't know why
[21:33] <edbian> sav_: look at dmesg right now, unplug the hdd, plug it back in, look at dmesg again did anything get added to the bottom?
[21:34] <sav_> edbian: Nope.
[21:34] <edbian> sav_: Something is really wrong with this thing.
[21:35] <sav_> edbian: I just got it. :|
[21:35] <edbian> sav_: Can you reset it or turn it off via a button on the HDD or anything?
[21:35] <sav_> edbian: It's a laptop hard drive in a case.
[21:35] <sav_> edbian: So no
[21:35] <edbian> sav_: Why does it matter it's a laptop?
[21:35] <edbian> sav_: This is an external hdd
[21:36] <edbian> sav_: Are they any controls on the hdd at all?
[21:36] <sav_> edbian: I don't know. I'm going to open it up and check on it.
[21:36] <sav_> edbian: no
[21:36] <edbian> sav_: open it up?  What are you talking about?
[21:36] <edbian> sav_: when you plug it in does it light up?
[21:36] <sav_> edbian: It's a hard drive in a case!
[21:36] <edbian> sav_: Don't open the case
[21:36] <sav_> edbian: I screwed on the case myself five minutes ago
[21:37] <edbian> sav_: oh
[21:37] <edbian> then do whatever :P
[21:37] <sav_> edbian: Yes, it does light up
[21:37] <edbian> sav_: I'm not really sure.  This is strange.
[21:37] <YankDownUnder> edbian, Hehehehehe....gotcha on that, eh?
[21:37] <edbian> YankDownUnder: haha
[21:37] <Mithadon> hey guys. I'm having trouble installing. On my main laptop, toshiba satellite c650d-007, as soon as I reach setup neither keyboard nor mouse are detected, whether the built in or extra USB ones... only works when installed in virtualbox
[21:38] <YankDownUnder> Mithadon, It's a feature, not a bug. ;)
[21:38] <YankDownUnder> Mithadon, What version of Ubu are you trying to install mate?
[21:39] <edbian> YankDownUnder: Can you imagine if the keyboard did work!?! The user could type ANYTHING!
[21:39] <Mithadon> YankDownUnder: 11.04
[21:39] <YankDownUnder> edbian, That could be dangerous! ;)
[21:39] <edbian> sav_: does the hdd show up in lsusb   ?
[21:39] <edbian> sav_: Does it show up in gparted?
[21:39] <Mithadon> YankDownUnder: I also tried on the gf's laptop and it works fine but I don't have too much leeway there :P
[21:39] <YankDownUnder> Mithadon, Right oh - howzabout this: have you gone into the BIOS on this machine and double checked wheter the USB ports are set to legacy?
[21:39] <sav_> edbian: Hold on hold on I have to put it back in the case
[21:40] <YankDownUnder> Mithadon, ...and we have to be careful with GF's laptops and desktops - they're not very forgiving.
[21:40] <edbian> sav_: haha ok
[21:40] <Mithadon> YankDownUnder: my desktop also seemed to fail when installing winxp on a 2nd partition and I can't install ubuntu from usb lol... anyhow I'm gonna come here on other laptop and try it on this
[21:41] <YankDownUnder> Mithadon, Just remember as I said - check the BIOS on the Toshiba
[21:41] <Mithadon> aye
[21:42] <Littlex> hey, while installing ubuntu i choosed the option to encrypt my home folder,  is there a way to undo the encryption?
[21:43] <sav_> edbian: Wait, what are the two things you wanted?
[21:43] <edbian> sav_: lsusb
[21:43] <edbian> sav_: Does it show up there?
[21:44] <sav_> edbian: Uuuh... I wouldn't be able to tell
[21:44] <edbian> sav_: pastebin it for me to see
[21:45] <prerak> hj
[21:45] <edbian> prerak: hello
[21:45] <prerak> hello
[21:45] <edbian> hj
[21:45] <prerak> lol dude
[21:46] <Mithadon> YankDownUnder: legacy emulation enabled :/
[21:46] <savid> Anyone know what ever happened to this?  http://j.mp/o3zUxe
[21:46] <edbian> lawl
[21:46] <savid> Having android apps run natively on the desktop would be epic.
[21:46] <edbian> savid: neat idea.  Never heard of it before.
[21:46] <sav_> edbian:http://paste.ubuntu.com/662989/
[21:46] <calwig> skype works! on ubuntu 8.04 woo
[21:46] <sav_> savid: Oh man I want that
[21:46] <YankDownUnder> Mithadon, Right oh - so did you ENABLE it or did you DISABLE it mate?
[21:47] <YankDownUnder> calwig, 8.04?
[21:47] <Mithadon> already enabled
[21:47] <calwig> used skype-debian_2.0.0.72-1_i386
[21:47] <edbian> sav_: It ain't there.  Try turning the machine off completely.  Boot it with the external drive connected.
[21:47] <YankDownUnder> Mithadon, Right, so if you DISABLE it and try, what happens?
[21:47] <sav_> edbian: Will do. Thanks again, see you in five
[21:47] <edbian> sav_: sure
[21:47] <Mithadon> sec, i'll try :P
[21:48] <calwig> YankDownUnder: Yep Ubuntu 11.04 10.08 10.04 dont boot on my computer, so I used the same version. Had to also install Skype but didnt have the version from back then
[21:48] <troulouliou> hi is thre a dommand to rebuild all the dkms module for all the installed kernels ?
[21:48] <calwig> so I searched for prev. versions and foudn this one
[21:48] <Mithadon> by the way, is it acceptable to install on a small 10gb partition but install apps on a different partition?
[21:48] <Mithadon> because I can't get rid of windows 7 yet
[21:48] <YankDownUnder> calwig, Mate, I feel for ya...yer my hero for the day! ;)
[21:48] <prerak_> Hie evry1
[21:48] <edbian> Mithadon: How would doing that save space?
[21:48] <YankDownUnder> Mithadon, Shore nuff mate
[21:49] <calwig> YankDownUnder: thanks mate!
[21:49] <Mithadon> edbian: not save space, just leave my windows 7 partition intact and I have little space at this moment
[21:49] <Littlex> is there no way to disalbe the home and swap encryption with ubuntu 11.04? :<
[21:49] <edbian> Mithadon: You could put /usr on it's own partition.  /usr/bin is where most programs are installed.  I don't see what you're going to gain from it though.
[21:49] <Mithadon> YankDownUnder: this time it seems not to detect the usb drive with ubuntu installer on it
[21:50] <edbian> Mithadon: Again, it will not save space (of which you mention you have little). Having the applications on anothe rpartition or on the same partition will not effect windows
[21:50] <YankDownUnder> Mithadon, Right oh - ok, so in the BIOS on that machine, were there any other settings for USB's or keyboards or mice or ports?
[21:52] <blueshark> jjj
[21:52] <blueshark> any1 here?
[21:52] <YankDownUnder> No.
[21:52] <Mithadon> YankDownUnder, nope, it's the only usb setting, but remember it doesn't even detect the laptop keyboard
[21:52] <blueshark> you guys need to learn how to welcome
[21:53] <h00k> !hi | blueshark
[21:53] <YankDownUnder> Mithadon, Hmmm...just for a giggle and a grin, do you have an older version of Ubuntu laying about that you might be able to give a shot?
[21:53] <h00k> bah.
[21:53] <blueshark> hie
[21:53] <Mithadon> I don't, but I suppose I could download 10.04?
[21:53] <edbian> bah
[21:53] <YankDownUnder> Mithadon, Hang on - I'm checking something out mate...bear with me a tick...
[21:54] <blueshark> hook or crook
[21:54] <Mithadon> YankDownUnder lol hold on, the mouse works now that I tried again after reactivating legacy. Couldn't get this far any other way
[21:54] <blueshark> hihahaha
[21:54] <Mithadon> oh crap, now it doesn't anymore
[21:55] <Mithadon> now that I'm at installing
[21:55] <blueshark> x-chat
[21:55] <noahbanks> Hello. I'm going through the tutorial on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx , section about b43- no internet connection. I am having trouble locating the pool folder
[21:55] <h00k> blueshark: please try to keep it on-topic of ubuntu-support, please :)
[21:55] <edbian> noahbanks: for the patch?
[21:55] <blueshark> sorry man
[21:55] <YankDownUnder> Mithadon, I'm reading this: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1743620.html
[21:56] <Mithadon> YankDownUnder it worked on the ubuntu load screen until I got to the menu with install, now nothing is detected again, can't even see lights on keyboard
[21:56] <sav_> edbian: I think I'm just screwed
[21:56] <noahbanks> edbian: the step says,"b43-fwcutter is located on the Ubuntu install media under ../pool/main/b/b43-fwcutter/ and patch is located under ../pool/main/p/patch/ or both in the official repositories online.
[21:56] <edbian> sav_: It's not looking good huh?
[21:56] <sav_> edbian: It doesn't even show up in the bios
[21:56] <YankDownUnder> Mithadon, Unplug the keyboard, plug in the keyboard - does that do anything?
[21:56] <edbian> sav_: That's bad :(
[21:56] <edbian> noahbanks: PM me :)  I PM'd you!!!
[21:56] <sav_> edbian: I'm totally clueless as to what happened
[21:56] <Littlex> do i stand correct, if i want to disable the encryption ubuntu offers in the installer, i have to turn of the encrypted swap and the home folder encryption?
[21:57] <sav_> edbian: All I did was click "reformat"
[21:57] <edbian> sav_: That is very strange.  Maybe it was a bad hdd.  It's new right?  DOA it
[21:57] <edbian> sav_: You should be able to reformat a hdd
[21:57] <YankDownUnder> sav_, Have you tried a different USB cable yet?
[21:57] <sav_> edbian: A friend gave it to me because it was sent to him as a replacement but they figured out it wasn't his hdd that was the problem
[21:57] <sav_> YankDownUnder: No, but I will
[21:57] <edbian> sav_: Yeah sounds like the hdd is dead
[21:58] <ArchLinuxman> noahbanks: that is about the most straight forward install I have seen
[21:58] <sav_> edbian: THIS was the replacement though!
[21:58] <sav_> edbian: Sealed and everything!
[21:58] <sav_> I'm grabbing another cord. Hold on.
[21:58] <edbian> sav_: crazy
[21:58] <lcb> hi. anyone know this?. when i do 'ls -al /dev/bus/usb/003/005' i get "crw-rw-r--+ 1 root root 189, 260 2011-08-10 22:30 /dev/bus/usb/003/005".  If i try to add 'sudo adduser saned scanner' I get "adduser: The group `scanner' does not exist." Due to some issues i believe i have permission problems. Can someone please help me clarify this?
[21:59] <edbian> ArchLinuxman: the patch is often missing.  I'm helping him in PM
[21:59] <Mithadon> YankDownUnder no effect :/ to be honest I don't find an answer on that thread
[21:59] <Mithadon> at least not for my situation
[22:00] <coz_>  hey guys
[22:00] <YankDownUnder> Mithadon, I'm thinking of getting you to add some kernel params at boot mate...like adding: noapic acpi=off
[22:00] <Mithadon> alright, I don't know how to do that yet though :P also it seems the whole ubuntu crashes when getting to install because the clock stops (probably because usb key isnt detected)
[22:01] <ArchLinuxman> Mithadon: bad install sounds weird
[22:02] <ArchLinuxman> Mithadon: new disk needed for install were you running a livecd
[22:02] <mcbtay> another quick question: when i make my terminal semi-transparent and lay it overtop of firefox (or any window for that matter) does it show my background?
[22:02] <sav_> I'm grabbing another cord. Hold on.
[22:02] <sav_> Wow, I can't even find another one
[22:03] <YankDownUnder> Mithadon, Ok...this is what I'm thinking: The USB bridge on the mobo is freaky, and the kernel is having issues with it - therefore, the USB drive - along with the mouse and keyboard, are going to die out. However, if you can try installing from CDROM/DVD, and see if that does anything - else, I'd suggest downloading and trying 10.04 or 10.10
[22:03] <sav_> This one should work fine anyway. It's making the case light up.
[22:04] <Mithadon> YankDownUnder: to isntall from CD/DVD, do I just burn the iso?
[22:04] <|Slacker|> silly question: is there a keybort shortcut for the desktop grid in11.04?
[22:04] <YankDownUnder> Mithadon, Roger that mate.
[22:05] <sav_> Boy am I screwed
[22:05] <ArchLinuxman> Mithadon: Download a new Ubuntu iso .... This is a common problem with every distro
[22:05] <galamar> can someone help me get unbanned from #backtrack-linux? I forgot i was running and put my phone in my pocket to answer the door. and accidently sent a bunch of gibberish to their channel.
[22:05] <Mithadon> ArchLinuxman what do you mean by new?
[22:06] <mcbtay> anyone have any clue why the transparent terminal dispalys the background as opposed to windows underneath it?
[22:06] <sav_> edbian: You know, it flickers like its being accessed when i plug it in
[22:07] <edbian> sav_: crazy.  The system doesn't even say anything in dmesg
[22:07] <edbian> sav_: That's bad
[22:07] <escott> mcbtay, its not true transparency its faked. enable compiz for true transparency
[22:07] <edbian> and it doesn't work on any other OS
[22:07] <edbian> so doubly bad
[22:07] <sav_> edbian: Let me show you my dmesg
[22:07] <edbian> sav_: sure
[22:08] <ArchLinuxman> Mithadon: Just use 10-.04 or 10.10 furthermore, what is ISP comcast, dsl what? Slow connection will could cause your problem
[22:08] <mcbtay> escott: i have an optimus machine with intel 3000 integrated, can that handle compiz?
[22:09] <sav_> edbian: Wait wait wait dmesg changed omfg
[22:09] <ArchLinuxman> Mithadon: new = fresh copy of ubuntu
[22:09] <edbian> sav_: hahaha
[22:09] <edbian> k
[22:09] <sav_> edbian: Okay, I'm going to cut out the relevant parts. This is way too damn long.
[22:09] <oich> oh la. I am attempting to use mod_jk with apache httpd and tomcat packages from 10.04. I have the minimal settings in workers.properties and mostly default settings. Trying to load http://localhost:8080/examples get's me the tomcat examples, but http://localhost/servlet/examples get's 404 from tomcat. So, mod_jk is contacting tomcat but gets back 404. There are no messages about URI mapping...
[22:09] <oich> ...in the mod_jk.log. Any ideas?
[22:09] <[THC]AcidRain> i think im going back to ubuntu 9.04
[22:09] <edbian> sav_: sure
[22:09] <[THC]AcidRain> 11.04 isnt good at all
[22:09] <edbian> sav_: put it here: paste.ubuntu.com   doesn't matter how long it is
[22:09] <[THC]AcidRain> reminds me of windows, because i will tell it to do something and i feel everytime it does the exact opposite
[22:10] <sav_> I did but it's huge
[22:10] <edbian> sav_: ok :)
[22:10] <[THC]AcidRain> weirdos
[22:10] <sav_> edbian: Humongous version: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662999/
[22:10] <edbian> sav_: reading...
[22:10] <escott> mcbtay, intel 3000 like in an core i-series. yes it should support compiz, unless you have a sandybridge in which case you need to wait for 11.10
[22:10] <edbian> sav_: I bet it shows up in sudo fisk -l now
[22:11] <edbian> sav_: and you can mount it sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[22:11] <mcbtay> escott: i have a sandybridge machine, so my intel 3000 won't support compiz until 11.10?
[22:11] <sav_> edbian: Uh, kay. Shall I do that now?
[22:11] <edbian> sav_: yeah it's worth a short
[22:11] <Mithadon> I'm thinking of deleting all of windows 7 off the laptop but I don't have anything to recover with... wondering if the toshiba drivers folder combined with downloaded windows 7 same edition would do the trick
[22:11] <edbian> shot*
[22:11] <sav_> edbian: Also, space uintended?
[22:12] <edbian> sav_: all my spaces are intended
[22:12] <kooskombuis> hi all
[22:12] <edbian> sav_: Apparently it came back to life!
[22:12] <ArchLinuxman> [THC]AcidRain: Change is good ,but how long till ubuntu can fix 11.04
[22:12] <sosaited> I have installed 10.04 on a dell gx260 with 845G graphics. And I am running into vertical lines and black screens as listed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes . The gtt patches are recommended for 855 only but https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/541492 recommends them for 845 too. Does anyone have experience with these with 845?
[22:12] <sav_> edbian: between sdb1 and /mnt?
[22:12] <edbian> sav_: yes
[22:13] <sav_> edbian: I put the double-headed cable in backwards into the female usb on the right side, Just like I had it the first time
[22:13] <escott> mcbtay, it may work now, but its sure to work better in 11.10. i know the sandybridge's were having trouble because they were just too new when 11.04 came out
[22:13] <[THC]AcidRain> ArchLinuxman, i was promised that 11.04 was the shit. and an update was a MUST, i was left broken hearted
[22:13] <edbian> sav_: maybe it's a one way cable?
[22:13] <[THC]AcidRain> i am currently on hour 71 of suffering
[22:14] <kooskombuis> any one know when ubuntu intergrated with gnome 3 will come out?
[22:14] <mcbtay> escott: alright man thanks for the answer, i will try it out and if it works then yay and if not i can just hold off
[22:14] <sav_> edbian: I thought the third head was supposed to give it extra power or something, but when the two-headed part is on the hdd it can't do that
[22:14] <edbian> sav_: ummm.   3rd head?
[22:14] <ArchLinuxman> [THC]AcidRain: I  switched to Arch Linux, now thinking about going to Slackware.... change is good
[22:14] <galamar> kooskkombuis, hopefully never
[22:14] <m03sizlak> im using an ubuntu 11.04 VPS
[22:15] <m03sizlak> and my webserver is listening on 443
[22:15] <m03sizlak> but in netstat -anp, it doesnt say so
[22:15] <klsdf> is that ok to delete /var directory?
[22:15] <m03sizlak> root@tahoe:/var/www# netstat -anp|grep 443
[22:15] <m03sizlak> tcp6       0      0 :::443                  :::*                    LISTEN      10368/apache2
[22:15] <sav_> edbian: One head on one end, another head on the other end, a third head attached to that second head
[22:15] <m03sizlak> so if its listening only on IPv6 port 443, how is it that i can connect to it on 443?
[22:15] <galamar> how does typically get unbanned?
[22:16] <kooskombuis> @galamar, how come you say that
[22:16] <edbian> sav_: What is a 'head' ?
[22:16] <sav_> edbian: It's strange I agree
[22:16] <sav_> edbian: A male usb
[22:16] <klsdf> I would like to know if clearing /var is ok, just like clearing /tmp is ok
[22:16] <edbian> sav_: You plugged a male usb (head 2) into head 3?
[22:16] <galamar> kooskkombuis, I tried gnome3 on fedora, wasn't a big fan.
[22:17] <sav_> edbian: No no no. Lemme just show you a picture...
[22:17] <ArchLinuxman> galamar: change name and learn from your mistake don't be flaming on IRC...
[22:17] <edbian> sav_: hahah ok
[22:17] <escott> mcbtay, it may require some tweaking in compiz as well. testing on mine the compositor only bothers to composite around the edges of the window where the shadow would be(but i am using gnome-shell compositor and not compiz)
[22:18] <mcbtay> escott: alright man, i'll let you know what comes of it, i'm setting up my terminal aliases atm
[22:18] <sav_> edbian: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/100122-duallink-02.jpg
[22:19] <sav_> edbian: It's like that, except they're all male usb
[22:19] <kooskombuis> @galamar, whats the best flavour of linux to use, i am still new so i dont know yet witch one to use or would be the beste
[22:19] <edbian> sav_: And where are they all plugged then?
[22:19] <nocstud> whats up yall
[22:19] <sav_> nocstud:Texan?
[22:19] <nocstud> hahaha nope just sounded funnier
[22:20] <ArchLinuxman> kooskombuis: stop your going to start a war in here...
[22:20] <edbian> sav_: I think the answer is to use this bizarre cable correctly :P
[22:20] <sav_> nocstud: As a texan I resent that
[22:20] <nocstud> lol nothin personal mane,
[22:20] <kooskombuis> oh shoooot, cool cool, no more questions lol
[22:20] <sav_> edbian: No, because ironically using the double-headed side on the hdd actually makes it show up in dmesg
[22:20] <ArchLinuxman> kooskombuis: Try distrowatch.com
[22:21] <sav_> edbian: Even though it's supposed to go the other way around I think
[22:21] <edbian> sav_: Then that is 'correct'
[22:21] <galamar> kooskkombuis, As far as the best goes its a person preference thing. But someone else maybe the best to ask as I may not be the best source.
[22:21] <MalelDraconis> Hey, I'm trying to boot from USB, and I have it set as first priority, but it's just going straight to Grub..  Any ideas?
[22:21] <edbian> sav_: I agree it is strange
[22:21] <bj_penn> in bash, how do i tell what apps i have installed on ubuntu?
[22:21] <sosaited> How can I install the default theme of 10.04 on a minimal installation with just gnome-core
[22:21] <bj_penn> in windows, i can just go to control panel -> progs and features
[22:21] <kooskombuis> @ArchLinuxman thanx for the heads up, dont wanna start a fire where one isnt needed
[22:21] <sav_> edbian: Anyway, I did that command and it went through without any errors... Or at least it didn't say anything
[22:21] <edbian> sav_: go to the /mnt file
[22:21] <edbian> all your files should be in there
[22:22] <sav_> edbian: Uuuuh
[22:22] <edbian> sav_: uuuhh?
[22:22] <sav_> edbian: Clarify?
[22:22] <nocstud> i have a question, does anyone remember in old versions of linux to play dvds you had to install something called libdvdcss, i was wondering when they fixed ubuntu to where you didnt have to do that, my last os was 8
[22:22] <edbian> sav_: /mnt is a folder
[22:22] <edbian> sav_: :)
[22:22] <edbian> sav_: It's in /
[22:22] <mcbtay> i thought i knew what i was doing when it came to creating aliases :/
[22:22] <sav_> edbian: I got that... Oh! It's just in /
[22:22] <edbian> sav_: yeah, hence the /  in /mnt
[22:22] <jack> question: where does apt store the stuff it downloads when booted from a livedvd?
[22:22] <popey> jack: in RAM
[22:22] <galamar> !register | galamar
[22:23] <edbian> jack: yes everything is in ram
[22:23] <sav_> edbian: Oh, that explains it. I thought that was kind of strange, like it was supposed to be a single address
[22:23] <kabidu> #ubuntuusers,#ubuntu-de,#xchat
[22:23] <edbian> sav_: :)  Your files have been mounted in there (because of my mount command)
[22:23] <jack> oh, ok
[22:23] <sav_> edbian: Okay, some windows files are there
[22:23] <galamar> anyone know how to switch tabs with irssi?
[22:23] <rww> nocstud: they didn't, you still have to do it with encrypted DVDs (which most commercial ones are)
[22:23] <sav_> edbian: That's something
[22:23] <edbian> sav_: sure whatev
[22:23] <jack> semi-useless ;/
[22:24] <sav_> edbian: But, um, they're not all the same ones and I don't miss the windows files.
[22:24] <ArchLinuxman_> Wow, first time I have ever dropped connection to internet
[22:24] <sav_> edbian: Where can I go from here?
[22:24] <edbian> sav_: You don't miss them?
[22:24] <sosaited> How can I install the default theme of 10.04 on a minimal installation with just gnome-core
[22:24] <edbian> sav_: I think the hdd is working fine.  It was just that cable.  I don't know what the issue is anymore.
[22:24] <sav_> edbian: No, that's why I reformatted it
[22:24] <mib_mib> Hi guys, I just downloaded and installed fontconfig and poppler-0.16.7 on ubuntu, however, when it try to run pdftohtml, i get this error: "pdftohtml: error while loading shared libraries: libpoppler.so.13: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" any ideas? I can see the file libpoppler.so.13 in the /usr/local/lib directory
[22:24] <sav_> edbian: Except that it STILL isn't mounted
[22:24] <edbian> sav_: it's mounted in /mnt
[22:24] <lixxus> can anyone shed light on amd switchable graphics
[22:25] <edbian> sav_: that's how you can see the files
[22:25] <lixxus> is hp dv6 laptops working well from fresh install ?
[22:25] <sav_> edbian: Wait... Really? So I can edit my drive in /mnt?
[22:25] <kooskombuis> cheers all, nice to have found this irc channel, will chat again soon
[22:25] <edbian> sav_: yes
[22:25] <edbian> sav_: (should be able to)
[22:25] <sav_> edbian: I still need it to mount correctly though. Not to be picky, but I have to be able to pop this into other operating systems and such
[22:26] <ArchLinuxman> lixxus: search ubuntu forums for hardware support really problems
[22:26] <sav_> edbian: It's good, but it's not helpful since I'm going to be changing my os
[22:26] <edbian> sav_: It was mounted 'correctly'  It was just down via cli.  sudo umount /dev/sdb1  to unmount it.  Then you can go to computer and double click the drive and it should mount for you (via gui)
[22:26] <edbian> done via cli*
[22:27] <sav_> edbian: Trying that
[22:27] <sav_> ...
[22:27] <edbian> sav_: When you GUI mount it goes into /media/<numbers>/
[22:27] <sav_> edbian: There's nothing in computer.
[22:27] <sav_> edbian: There's only computer in computer
[22:27] <sav_> edbian: No other drive
[22:28] <edbian> sav_: It is plugged in right?
[22:28] <sav_> Yes
[22:28] <edbian> sav_: mmm, IDK
[22:28] <edbian> sav_: reboot
[22:28] <edbian> sav_: hahahah, (just cli mount).  The hdd is working fine.  Other os's will find it.  (even other linux's should find it)
[22:28] <sav_> edbian: Okay. I'll reboot with it plugged in the funky fresh way.
[22:28] <edbian> sav_: funky fresh indeed
[22:29] <sav_> edbian: Good to know! I just have to run that command when I need it?
[22:29] <edbian> sav_: yes
[22:29] <edbian> sav_: I think a reboot might fix it
[22:29] <edbian> sav_: I use the mount command all the time
[22:29] <sav_> edbian: Kay. I'ma restart and come back and then we'll see
[22:29] <edbian> sav_: sure
[22:30] <nocsutud> d
[22:30] <galamar> I tried changing my nick but I was still banned?
[22:30] <nocsutud> lol why did you get banned
[22:30] <coz_> galamar,  it goes by your ip address as far as I know
[22:31] <ArchLinuxman> galamar: hey and you might have to wait 24 hrs or more until they forget about what you said
[22:31] <intrader> Anyone, ubuntu 10.10 hangs during boot while displaying ubuntu with the four repeating dots.  What can I provide as info?
[22:31] <galamar> spitting random gibberish into #backtracklinux when I put my phone in my pocket without exiting the app.
[22:32] <nocsutud> intrader: did you mess with the gdm
[22:32] <SimonPHOENIX> hello
[22:32] <nocsutud> intrader: you might have messed up your login screen
[22:32] <SimonPHOENIX> how can I talk by msn with camera if I'm using ubuntu?
[22:33] <intrader> nocsutud, no I did not - it does come up in recovery mode requiring login.
[22:33] <mib_mib> hi guys, where is the standard place for ubuntu to look for runtime libraries (i had to add /usr/local/lib to my LD_LIBRARY_PATH, but i'd like to know where it looks normally)
[22:34] <escott> intrader, next time plymouth starts hit the up key, or boot with nosplash
[22:34] <mcbtay> escott: you still here?
[22:34] <escott> mcbtay, yes
[22:34] <coz_> SimonPHOENIX,  ah v4l   would have to be active and I believe the best application for that would be webcamstudio
[22:34] <mcbtay> escott, having trouble locating window transparency in ccsm?
[22:34] <xreal> Anyone with a working tutorial to send mails over gmail ?
[22:34] <nocsutud> intrader: huh, man im not sure about that one, try googling the problem exactly, and you man have to reword it a few times, but thats what i do when i forget something or need to learn something new it usually finds something, but you may have to reinstall
[22:34] <escott> mcbtay, are you running compiz?
[22:34] <intrader> escott, what is plymouth
[22:34] <galamar> Archlinuxman, ok so in theory than if I used the irc app on my phone when I got banned the would have my cell ip, not my home ip? right so changing my nick should have worked. but I made the new nick galamar1 maybe I just didn't change it enough?
[22:35] <mcbtay> escott, to the best of my knowledge?
[22:36] <escott> mcbtay, ps aux | egrep "compiz|metacity" | grep -v grep
[22:36] <Sav_> edbian: I can feel this thing spinning but it's not showing up
[22:36] <escott> mcbtay, http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/08/howto-completely-transparent-shell-on.html
[22:36] <edbian> Sav_: crazy
[22:36] <edbian> Sav_: Is this 11.04 ?
[22:36] <Sav_> 11.11
[22:36] <edbian> Sav_: ooh my!!!
[22:36] <Sav_> but I want to back up on the drive and lower it
[22:36] <coz_> galamar,  it may have been too close , however  the reason for the ban would be better to seek out
[22:36] <intrader> nocsutud, how do I reinstall and retain Windows, and two linuces (one in sda7, the old one ins sda5).
[22:36] <edbian> Sav_: you need to be in #ubuntu+a
[22:36] <edbian> #ubuntu+1
[22:36] <edbian> sorry
[22:36] <Sav_> edbian: Oh my indeed
[22:37] <Sav_> edbian: 11.11 is natty, isn't it?
[22:37] <schatan> yjo
[22:37] <edbian> Sav_: yes.  That's a beta / alpha release.  It's probably a bug.
[22:37] <edbian> Sav_: 11.04 is natty
[22:37] <coz_> Sav_,   11.10 is oneiric
[22:37] <Sav_> edbian: Wait, then I'm confused. I should only have natty
[22:38] <edbian> Sav_: cat /etc/issue
[22:38] <Sav_> edbian: Which one is meerkat?
[22:38] <edbian> maverick meerkat (10.10 I think)
[22:38] <edbian> IDK
[22:38] <edbian> so many animal names
[22:38] <Sav_> edbian: Sorry, sorry
[22:38] <edbian> that's ok
[22:38] <Sav_> edbian: I only have Natty
[22:38] <blackshirt> yeah :d
[22:38] <nocsutud> intrader: are you running windows right now
[22:38] <edbian> Sav_: so you are on 11.04 ?
[22:38] <blackshirt> like zoo :d
[22:38] <Sav_> edbian: Yes
[22:38] <szal> !maverick
[22:39] <edbian> Sav_: no big.  I'm not sure why it isn't showing up in computer
[22:39] <Sav_> edbian: But I want to downgrade to meerkat
[22:39] <Sav_> Me neither
[22:39] <nocsutud> intrader: or are you running dual boot
[22:39] <Sav_> edbian: I think I'll go to the forums with this
[22:39] <edbian> Sav_: The HDD is working fine.  It's some config error with the OS.  It will work fine in any other OS and you should probably just use mount
[22:39] <edbian> Sav_: sure
[22:39] <edbian> have a good one
[22:39] <Sav_> wait
[22:39] <intrader> nocsutud, no, using the recovery version . I have dual boot.
[22:39] <Sav_> I'm going to check if it really does mount in Windows
[22:39] <Sav_> brb
[22:39] <edbian> Sav_: ok
[22:40] <coz_> as long as the "Z" ubuntu is zealous zebra
[22:40] <cobra-the-joker> Hey there every one ... i enabled autologin in the installation ... how can i disable it ?
[22:40] <galamar> ArchLinuxman, the reason I got banned was for flooding with gibberish I'm sure cause when I got my phone out of my pocket th screen was flooded with gibberish and they was asking if I was ok.
[22:40] <nocsutud> intrader: man ive never even done a dual boot, except for wubi a long ass time ago, id have to do some reading honestly real fast, stay on
[22:40] <sudokill> cobra-the-joker- in the system setting under login / user
[22:41] <ubuntu> hola
[22:41] <ubuntu> alguien que me pueda dar unba mano
[22:41] <intrader> nocsutud, in this mode I don't even get controls in frame of windows.
[22:42] <Seveas> !es | ubuntu
[22:42] <Sav_> edbian?
[22:42] <ArchLinuxman> galamar: Are you trying to convince me... I don't care I am not the admin of the channel and can't get you back on the channel..
[22:42] <ResQue> if i run wget with the -L argument it only gets one page, but if i remove the -L it does its job and spiders the pages i need. any ideas on what i can do?
[22:42] <ubuntu> gracias
[22:43] <Sav_> Where did edbian go
[22:43] <ubuntu> #ubuntu-es
[22:43] <nocsutud> intrader: so you are running straight from terminal
[22:43] <ResQue> i am trying to download a webpage and follow all the links on just the first page. Then localize the links using the -L option
[22:43] <Sav_> edbian: You still here??
[22:43] <jrib> ResQue: what does the -L option do?
[22:43] <intrader> nocsutud, in the recovery mode it allowed me to restart X
[22:44] <Sav_> Dammit
[22:44] <ResQue> jrib: the -L option will turn all the links on the webpage into local links
[22:44] <jrib> ResQue: how did you determine that?
[22:44] <ResQue> jrib: so if the link is google.com/index.html, it changes it to ./index.html
[22:44] <ResQue> jrib: i read the man page. am i worng?
[22:45] <jrib> ResQue: that's not what my man page says
[22:45] <ResQue> jrib: haha
[22:45] <ResQue> jrib: Hahahahahah your right its relitive links only lol
[22:45] <jrib> ResQue: :D
[22:45] <nocsutud> intrader: man, im sorry but in one reply explain to me your whole problem, im gonna try and find a solution online somewhere real fast, i think this happened to me a while back with wubi, if i remember correctly.
[22:45] <ResQue> jrib: well i think that fixes that issue, me need sleep :P
[22:47] <ubuntu> mierdas
[22:47] <intrader> nocsutud, I am not running wubi.
[22:47] <ubuntu> carajo
[22:47] <ubuntu> what are you running
[22:47] <nocsutud> intrader:i know that
[22:47] <ResQue> jrib: it was wget -k i needed
[22:48] <cordoval> anyone running specto from the software center repos? it is giving an error
[22:48] <cordoval> when adding a reader notification on any site
[22:49] <cordoval> it would just not add and get this error http://pastebin.com/QCYn5Y0w
[22:49] <cordoval> please someone can confirm thanks!
[22:49] <stealz> I am running 10.04 and the proprietary drivers for my GTX 580 don't show up under Hardware, is that a problem?
[22:50] <ResQue> jrib: thanks for checking i could have been here all day
[22:50] <jrib> ResQue: no problem
[22:50] <mcbtay> escott, sorry it took a bit, but i ran that grep command
[22:51] <Mithadon> YankDownUnder: I am now trying a new download of 11.04, 64bit this time, from cd instead of usb :P
[22:51] <G00053> l
[22:52] <intrader> nocsutud, here I go - yesterday It was running 10.10 with one user only, but showing in Places the folder for the previous version. From this I recoverer the setting for google chromium, firefox, and tomboy. The I installed an update to allow me to see the iPod. At the end of this synaptic tells me that a partial upgrade is necessary. When I try to reboot, it does not fully boot but hangs on the startup before the login screen.
[22:52] <cordoval> specto is really great software
[22:52] <cordoval> but sounds like it is not working
[22:54] <^nndrei> Yo, is it ok if I ask noob questions here?
[22:54] <Mithadon> crap, now it froze on ubuntu screen with 5 dots and doesnt detect any devices either
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> ^nndrei: ask away
[22:54] <daniel___> Yo?
[22:54] <intrader> nocsutud, on Friday, I had tried the upgrade to 11.04 path, and got it to hung with the Caps lock and disk light solid. I then decided to install 10.10.
[22:55] <nocsutud> intrader: son of a bitch, whats the programs name
[22:55] <^nndrei> finally got my wireless connection setup, but now my download speed is like 10 times slower than usual
[22:55] <bj_penn> how do i tell if i have apache installed
[22:55] <^nndrei> anybody  had the same problem?
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> bj_penn: dpkg -l | grep apache
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> bj_penn: if you see it, it'sinstalled. Otherwise not
[22:55] <Targen> hi.  i'd like to know how to configure the stuff that gets run after successful login, before the shell is executed.  whatever it is that produces the "banner" and sometimes informs about pending updates.  any clues?
[22:56] <nocsutud> intrader: and if you are using 10.10 why the f did you have to install an update to see the ipod, it should just show up automatically
[22:56] <Targen> i find it introduces unacceptable delays
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> Targen: you mean the motd when you ssh in?
[22:56] <nocsutud> intrader:ive been syncing my iphone since i installed this, without adding anything program wise at all.
[22:56] <Targen> ActionParsnip: it seems to be the same for ssh logins, yes.
[22:57] <mib_mib> if i do apt-get update and then apt-get install somelibary, and its not the latest library - is there some way to get the latest library i.e. with a --pre or something, or does it mean it just hasn't been updated in the package manager yet?
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> Targen: possibly http://serverfault.com/questions/36421/stop-ssh-login-from-printing-motd-from-the-client
[22:57] <jrib> mib_mib: define "latest"
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> mib_mib: you may find it in a PPA
[22:58] <george_> how can I do dns tunneling with putty?
[22:58] <mib_mib> jrib: i.e. if i do apt-get install poppler-utils it does version 0.14.3, but i want 0.16
[22:58] <mib_mib> jrib: so is my only option to go download and install from source
[22:58]  * ^nndrei why am i downloading with only 50 kb/s when i was downloading with 1 Mb/s in windows? Anyone? :(
[22:58] <jrib> mib_mib: yes apt will only get you the latest in the repositories
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> ^nndrei: downloading using what?
[22:58] <^nndrei> using anything!
[22:59] <mib_mib> jrib: okay, and there are no like 'unstable' or 'beta' versions in the repos?
[22:59] <^nndrei> torrentz, packages
[22:59] <^nndrei> browser
[22:59] <jrib> mib_mib: not really
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> ^nndrei: how are you connected to the web? wired? wireless? 3g?
[22:59] <intrader> nocsutud, the web page detailing the iPod stuff that got in trouble: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/12/get-ios4-mountsync-working-in-ubuntu.html. At the end of the last step, synaptic warms me that a partial upgrade is necessary.
[22:59] <^nndrei> wireless connection
[22:59] <mib_mib> jrib: okay
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> ^nndrei: ok, which chip?
[22:59] <mib_mib> jrib: thanks
[23:00] <taher> hi guys
[23:00] <^nndrei> uhm
[23:00] <jrib> mib_mib: (there are -backports, -proposed, and repositories for the next ubuntu version, as well as PPAs)
[23:00] <mcbtay> escott, i could use some more help if you don't mind :P
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> hi taher
[23:00] <taher> just a question
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> ^nndrei: uhm isn't a wireless chip
[23:00] <mib_mib> jrib: what is a ppa
[23:00] <^nndrei> let me check
[23:00] <Student`> hello eveybody
[23:00] <jrib> mcbtay: note you shouldn't mix repositories for different ubuntu versions though as that will break things
[23:00] <jrib> !ppa | mib_mib
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> ^nndrei: sudo lshw -C network     will tell you
[23:01] <mcbtay> jrib: wat
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> taher: ask away
[23:01] <jrib> mcbtay: "wat"?
[23:01] <Student`> I would like to add a route on my gateway in order to permit to vpn client to access to the whole network, please help :)
[23:01] <mcbtay> jrib: what made you think i was mixing repo versions?
[23:01] <Mithadon> ok im trying one more time... as a newcomer to linux, should I get ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10?
[23:01] <Targen> ActionParsnip: that indeed is relevant for ssh sessions.  however, i'm talking about plain login from a console, such as in one of the init-provided virtual terminals or through the login command.
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> Mithadon: gra natty, the later drivers may help
[23:01] <taher> I just make my login screen not to ask me about the password when i log ...... but now i want to restore the old senario ... can any one help:d?
[23:02] <mib_mib> jrib: oh cool thanks
[23:02] <jrib> mcbtay: I didn't say you were, but I mentioned them as a possible source for later versions of libraries and then decided I should include that warning
[23:02] <^nndrei> ActionParsnip, product: BCM4401
[23:02] <Mithadon> gra natty?
[23:02] <mcbtay> jrib: ah, i'm just trying to enable compix :x
[23:02] <mcbtay> jrib: compiz*
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> ^nndrei: That's an ethernet chip
[23:02] <jrib> mcbtay: you shouldn't need be messing with libraries for that
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> ^nndrei: is it some USB thing?
[23:02] <mcbtay> jrib: i'm not messing with libraries at all? not sure where you got that idea?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> Mithadon: grab natty
[23:03] <jrib> mcbtay: ah, you and mib_mib have very similar nick names (start with the same letter and about the same length) so I got confused
[23:03] <Mithadon> ActionParsnip what is natty?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> !natty | Mithadon
[23:03] <mcbtay> jrib: no worries!
[23:03] <escott> mcbtay, so was it running compiz or metacity
[23:03] <Student`> hello, I would like to add a route on my gateway in order to permit to vpn client to access to the whole distant network, please help
[23:03] <^nndrei> no
[23:03] <mcbtay> escott, metacity
[23:03] <Targen> i'm aware that part of the output is in /etc/motd, and i don't really mind that.  the problem is there seems to be something sometimes executing a lot more than just "cat /etc/motd"; specifically, a message mentioning the availability of updated packages seems to produce extra delay.
[23:04] <mib_mib> jrib: lulz
[23:04] <Mithadon> ActionParsnip ah, I've just tried 11.04 both 32 and 64 with usb and cd, can't get into setup ever on my laptop. devices are no longer detected, freezes with cd, blah
[23:04] <jrib> mib_mib: so uh read everything I directed to mcbtay :D
[23:04] <mib_mib> jrib:  yah i got it
  can U help please?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> ^nndrei: ok can you run:  lspci; lsb_release -a     and pastein the output please
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> taher: not sure, I've not done anything like that
[23:05] <mib_mib> jrib: nothing really good there i could find, at least in the search i did, but i'll keep em in mind
[23:05] <taher> hmmmmmmmmmm ...thanx alot:d
[23:05] <jrib> mib_mib: why do you want the newer version?
[23:05] <mib_mib> jrib: new features, faster, etc
[23:05] <^nndrei> No LSB modules are available.
[23:05] <^nndrei> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[23:05] <^nndrei> Description:	Ubuntu 11.04
[23:05] <^nndrei> Release:	11.04
[23:05] <^nndrei> Codename:	natty
[23:05] <mib_mib> jrib: specifically, i want the pdftohtml to parse into a single file
[23:05] <FloodBot1> ^nndrei: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> ^nndrei: I said use a pastebin!
[23:06] <mcbtay> escott, grep returned that it was running metacity
[23:06] <^nndrei> sorry
[23:06] <jrib> mib_mib: in general, you can grab the source package from a later ubuntu version (oneiric in this case) and then rebuild it for natty.  If there are issues, apt should inform you when you try to install
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> ^nndrei: can you pastebin the output of:  lspci
[23:06] <^nndrei> how do i pastebin?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> ^nndrei: copy the text, go to http://pastie.org  paste the text THERE, hit paste. When the page changes, copy the address in the address bar and paste THAT in here
[23:08] <mib_mib> jrib: i'm acutallly using 10.10 - how do you grab the source package from a later version? does this mean that it may have the later version?
[23:08] <jrib> !source | mib_mib
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> mib_mib: could try finding a PPA, what are you after/
[23:08] <jrib> mib_mib: one way is as above, just add the deb-src line for the later ubuntu version, grab your package, then remove the line
[23:09] <^nndrei> http://paste.ubuntu.com/663022/
[23:09] <Mithadon> is unity available for 10.04?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> ^nndrei: see how you gave all those lines without scrolling the channel?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Mithadon: 2d or 3d?
[23:10] <^nndrei> yeah, sorry for that
[23:10] <Mithadon> not familiar with either :P
[23:10] <mib_mib> jrib: ah gotcha interesting - where can i find the sources for the later repos
[23:10] <keyboardtalk> Can anyone recommend a text-only torrenting client?
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | ^nndrei
[23:10] <Mithadon> but I'd put 11.04 on my desktop so I want to get used to something similiar
[23:10] <coz_> Mithadon,  you could try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-netbook or  sudo apt-get install unity
[23:10] <jrib> mib_mib: you just replace the codename (so "natty" becomes "oneiric").  It's very important you do not do this with the binary repos, only source
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> ^nndrei: you may find your DNS is slowing things down. Have you tried a different DNS?
[23:10] <coz_> Mithadon,   I have not done this on the version so I cant say  how it works
[23:11] <Omega> keyboardtalk: If you mean command line: rtorrent
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> Mithadon: unity is in PPA for Lucid
[23:11] <^nndrei> I tried openDNS
[23:11] <mib_mib> jrib: how can i tell which is a source and which is a binary
[23:11] <^nndrei> I tried turning off my ipv6 too
[23:11] <jrib> mib_mib: "deb" = binary; "deb-src" = source
[23:11] <keyboardtalk> Omega: thank you
[23:11] <mib_mib> jrib: okay sweet
[23:12] <Mithadon> sorry but I'm a complete noob to linux - is 10.10 closer to 11.04? I saw unity is available for that. Also what's lucid?
[23:12] <Technicus> Hello . . . how do I use git?
[23:12] <elijah> Technicus: try www.gitimmersion.com
[23:12] <Matryx> can someone help me with this. I keep getting an error: file not found when booting into OPENELEC http://imageshack.us/f/814/parion.png/
[23:12] <coz_> Technicus,        what are you trying to download?
[23:13] <coz_> Technicus,    git clone   address of the git repository
[23:13] <coz_> +application
[23:13] <Technicus>  coz_: https://github.com/qdot/emokit.git
[23:14] <intrader> nocsutud, sorry, should i wait longer?
[23:14] <coz_> Technicus,  that link is errored but let me try something
[23:15] <coz_> Technicus,  git clone https://github.com/qdot/emokit.git
[23:15] <mib_mib> jrib: thanks
[23:16] <Technicus>  coz_:  Thanks.
[23:16] <coz_> Technicus,   no problem
[23:16] <escott> mcbtay, sorry had to go outside for a second.
[23:16] <mcbtay> escott, no worries man!
[23:17] <escott> mcbtay, you could try compiz --replace, but its likely to fail. the intel drivers are well supported  out of the box but the downside is that you can't do much of anything to a stock install
[23:18] <mcbtay> escott, stock install?
[23:18] <mcbtay> escott, "Compiz (opengl) - Fatal: root visual is not a GL visual"
[23:19] <escott> mcbtay, ie unlike nvidia we don't have to install proprietary drivers. if you run `glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"` you want it to say Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ironlake Mobile but it probably just says Mesa (ie software emulation)
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> ^nndrei: not sure, if you reboot and run:  dmesg | tail     are there any errors?
[23:20] <^nndrei> let me try it
[23:21] <mcbtay> actually escott, it just keeps saying "Xlib: extension 'GLX' missing on display ':0.0'.
[23:21] <intrader> nocsutud, sorry, should i wait longer?
[23:21] <escott> mcbtay, you just don't have any opengl support right now. the only way you will get that is to upgrade to 11.10 which is in alpha3
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> escott: what is the output of:  sudo lshw -C display; lsb_release -a      use a pastebin please
[23:22] <mcbtay> escott, alright, well i reckon i'll just wait until that :) no worries
[23:22] <escott> ActionParsnip, he has a sandybridge
[23:22] <ethernet-> haillo
[23:22] <mcbtay> ActionParsnip, you still want the pastebin anyway?
[23:22] <escott> ActionParsnip, unless you know of a ppa for sandybridges
[23:23] <LeonardChurch> New to this and need help.
[23:23] <meganerd> escott: I thought Sandy Bridge GPU support was added in 11.04?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> mcbtay: sure :)
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> escott: not sure what that is
[23:25] <mcbtay> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/MxVBbv0E
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> escott: seems to be a CPU, not a GPU
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> mcbtay: oh jeez, those dual gpu things are a pain
[23:26] <meganerd> ActionParsnip: it is an integrated GPU into the platform aka chipset
[23:26] <mcbtay> ActionParsnip: yeah, honestly if i could just power off the nvidia card and soley use the intergrated while i was on ubuntu i'd be happy
[23:27] <meganerd> ActionParsnip: just an improved version of what shipped with Core2 and Lynnefield
[23:27] <escott> !info libglu1-mesa
[23:27] <intrader> nocsutud, sorry, should i wait longer?
[23:27] <escott> meganerd, sandybridge gpu's require mesa 7.11 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=intel_snb_natty&num=1
[23:27] <meganerd> escott: ah, so kernel and Xorg support
[23:28] <meganerd> escott: I did not really look in to it, I have an ATI 5770 in my sandybridge rig, still on 10.10 on that machine
[23:28] <^nndrei> ActionParsnip, this is what comes up: http://paste.ubuntu.com/663030/
[23:28] <mcbtay> the thing i mostly want compiz for is window snapping and transparency on my terminal :/
[23:29] <edbian> mcbtay: so turn on the window snap plugin in ccsm and turn on transparency in gnome-terminal
[23:29] <mcbtay> edbian: you obviously haven't been watching my conversation with escott and others lol
[23:29] <th0r> mcbtay: xfce has window snapping without compiz, and you should be able to get transparency in terminal by using the old enlightenment terminal
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> ^nndrei: try:   dmesg | less      see if you get any errors or warnings about the chip
[23:29] <edbian> mcbtay: ok
[23:30] <mcbtay> th0r: enlightenment terminal?
[23:30] <meganerd> th0r: it is not true transparency, just a screencap of the background and not the apps in behind
[23:30] <intrader> nocsutud, I will try the reinstall 10.10 route - I have not heard from you.
[23:30] <escott> th0r, isn't enlightenment terminal fake transparency
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> meganerd: I haven't kept up with hardware for a long time. My needs are so basic a Sempron AM2 with 1Gb RAM does as much as I'll ever need
[23:31] <th0r> escott: might be, haven't used it in years
[23:31] <mcbtay> yeah i'm wanting true transparency
[23:31] <meganerd> ActionParsnip: I know what you mean.  The only reason I really looked in to it is because I replaced my audio rig and could not get the GPU to work on 10.10
[23:32] <[THC]AcidRain> th0r, i wrote a script in vb6 once time to make all windows transpartent
[23:32] <meganerd> ActionParsnip: I had an AMD 4400+ with DDR RAM before the power supply cooked the motherboard
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> meganerd: I always buy mid range Nvidias for an easy life
[23:33] <Sav_> edbian: Edbian!
[23:33] <edbian> Sav_: whatup
[23:33] <th0r> [THC]AcidRain: i gave up on transparency way back with e16...it gave me headaches <smile>. Just mentioned it as e-term popped to mind at the mention of terminal transparency
[23:33] <edbian> It was dinner time
[23:33] <Sav_> edbian: Something weird is happening.
[23:33] <intrader> Anyone, current disk has Windows partition, sda7 has malfunctioning 10.10, sda5 has old version of 10.10. How do I update only the sda7 and leave rest alone?
[23:33] <edbian> Sav_: what is it?
[23:33] <mcbtay> i bought this laptop specifically because it had an nvidia card cause i had so much trouble with ati in the past
[23:34] <Sav_> edbian: It showed up, mounted and renamed as "RECOVERY" in windows. I reformatted it and dropped some files into it
[23:34] <induz> how can I remove Lightning from Thunderbird in Ubuntu 10.4
[23:34] <edbian> Sav_: That is not strange
[23:34] <^nndrei> Ok, tried that too..it displayed like 5 pages but there doesn't seem to be any errors
[23:34] <induz> ThunderBird crashes so i can not reach to add-on tab
[23:34] <escott> mcbtay, well if it has an nvidia card then install that driver. earlier you said your video was intel 3000
[23:34] <Sav_> edbian: Still won't show correctly in Ubuntu, and when I did that mounting command
[23:34] <meganerd> ActionParsnip: ATI has been better for me since the 4xxx series, I don't have to bother with the nvidia blob
[23:35] <mcbtay> escott, i have an optimus machine, and it has an nvidia card as well as the integrated intel 3000
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> induz: does thunderbird have a    -safe   option (or similar)
[23:35] <Sav_> edbian: Well... there are some really funky files in /mnt
[23:35] <induz> is there anyway i can re-install after deleting Lighting from thunderBird Mozilla
[23:35] <edbian> Sav_: such as?
[23:35] <Sav_> edbian: And the one I put is not there
[23:35] <Sav_> edbian: Hold on
[23:35] <mcbtay> escott, last time i tried to install the drivers for the nvidia card it didn't seem to help much either :/
[23:35] <escott> mcbtay, also look into vgaswitcheroo, i don't know if that is applicable to your setup. although my understanding is that optimus is a mess
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> meganerd: nvidia have being making drivers for Linux the entire time Ive used Linux, never had a sinle issue so I stick by. Any company supporting Linux gets my money :D
[23:35] <mcbtay> ActionParsnip, they aren't making optimus drivers :/
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> mcbtay: I'm avoiding optimus like paris hilton avoids talent
[23:36] <induz> ActionParsnip, under What category i will find thunderBird--application..places or system
[23:36] <escott> mcbtay, instead of presenting two distinct cards to the system, optimus somehow runs the nvidia ports through the 3000 or some weird low level pci nonsense
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> induz: launch it from terminal
[23:36] <mcbtay> escott, yeah honestly i don't need the nvidia card for anything i do on ubuntu :/
[23:37] <induz> I can launch it a its on the Panel
[23:37] <meganerd> ActionParsnip: I know, but ATI hired Novel to write an open 3d driver for their modern hardware, which generally works out of the box, even on low latency kernels, something I have struggled with nVidia hardware with for the better part of a decade.
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> induz: thunderbird -safe-mode
[23:37] <intrader> Anyone, current disk has Windows partition, sda7 has malfunctioning 10.10, sda5 has old version of 10.10. How do I update only the sda7 and leave rest alone?
[23:37] <mcbtay> ActionParsnip, and yeah i'll not buy such new technologies next time
[23:37] <meganerd> ActionParsnip: ATI a few years ago was a nightmare
[23:37] <escott> mcbtay, if you want to experiment https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee/blob/master/README
[23:37] <ActionParsnip> meganerd: oh very
[23:38] <mcbtay> escott, yeah i've seen bumblebee, tried to use it once with no results, although i'm sure i could have experimented more
[23:38] <Sav_> edbian: Dell (two characters it wouldn't show) md.3pa,  rlevel 1.go, date for. Me
[23:38] <escott> intrader, manually partition and select the sda7 partition and tell the installer to use it as "/"
[23:38] <Sav_> edbian: Weird freaking files that won't open
[23:38] <edbian> Sav_: Are they text files?
[23:38] <Sav_> edbian: Nope, they're broken
[23:38] <edbian> Sav_: Can the terminal cat them?  They're just corruption?
[23:38] <edbian> Sav_: Maybe re-format
[23:38] <edbian> ?
[23:38] <Sav_> edbian: I guess they must be
[23:39] <Sav_> edbian: I just did that!
[23:39] <induz> ActionParsnip, I can run that command and get ThunderBird in safe mode
[23:39] <Sav_> Can I do that with /mnt?
[23:39] <edbian> Sav_: sure
[23:39] <edbian> Sav_: cat /mnt/path/to/file
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> meganerd: probably buy a trimslice next, just as a treat
[23:39] <edbian> Sav_: That's the purpose of cat
[23:39] <intrader> escott, thanks - I was talking with you before all the trouble
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> induz: I believe so.I don't use it but I found it using the internet
[23:39] <Sav_> edbian: No, I mean can I reformat it while it's in /mnt
[23:40] <Sav_> edbian: I know how cat works
[23:40] <edbian> Sav_: No you have to unmount to format
[23:40] <Sav_> edbian: Uh
[23:40] <meganerd> edbian: Sav_use "file" instead of cat
[23:40] <Sav_> edbian: Wait, for what
[23:40] <induz> after getting ThunderBird in safe mode what should i do??
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> induz: disable the plugin.......
[23:41] <edbian> Sav_: yes use file instead of cat
[23:41] <induz> ActionParsnip, The moment i claick on Add-on tab it crashes
[23:41] <Phong_> hi guys,
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> induz: how did you install the plugin?
[23:42] <induz> ActionParsnip, through ThunderBird itself
[23:43] <Phong_> induz, may i ask question ?
[23:43] <Sav_> edbian: To do what
[23:43] <Sav_> edbian: reformat it?
[23:43] <induz> Could not read chrome manifest file '/home/..../.thunderbird/gtuv6n72.default/extensions/en-US@dictionaries.addons.mozilla.org/chrome.manifest'.
[23:43] <edbian> Sav_: file to look at the file
[23:43] <Phong_> induz, i have a 2nd interview yesterday, and today the HR person send me the benefits information to look via email...what is that suppose to meant?
[23:43] <edbian> Sav_: file /mnt/path/to/file/
[23:43] <induz> Phong_, yes please
[23:43] <Phong_> induz, what do you think?
[23:43] <edbian> Sav_: instead of cat (file will tell you what type of file it is, it's magic)
[23:44] <Phong_> induz, is it meant i will get hired?
[23:44] <Sav_> edbian: I'm pretty sure these are all corruption, but okay
[23:44] <elijah> induz: There is #ubuntu-offtopic for stuff like that
[23:44] <edbian> Phong_: It means if you get hired here is the health insurance you will get
[23:44] <Phong_> induz, cause i dont see a point why they send me that stuff to look at if they're not offering me
[23:44] <edbian> Phong_: but this is offtopic
[23:44] <edbian> Sav_: sure
[23:44] <Phong_> edbian, oh shlt still hope :(
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> induz: then just reverse what you did if you can
[23:45] <Phong_> edbian, but i interpreted differently, i would think that if they're not interested in u, they would not bother to send to you.
[23:45] <Sav_> edbian: Wait, I don't even know how to type some of these characters into terminal. Won't spaces and question marks mess this up?
[23:45] <edbian> Phong_: good point.  Still off-topic
[23:45] <edbian> Phong_: bottom line, offtopic
[23:46] <induz> Phong_, I dont know what u r trying to tell me...but is it possible to fix thunderbird?
[23:46] <edbian> Sav_: Probably, use tab completion
[23:46] <Sav_> edbian: Clarify
[23:46] <induz> ActionParsnip, I dont remember how i got those plug-ins ...
[23:46] <edbian> Sav_: file /mnt/path/to/fi[tab][tab]
[23:47] <edbian> Sav_: Press the tab key and it tries to guess and finish for you. based on what's in that folder
[23:47] <Sav_> edbian: Uh, I messed it up.
[23:47] <edbian> Sav_: sure
[23:48] <Sav_> edbian: No, the cord fell out
[23:48] <induz> ActionParsnip, now when i open ThunderBird it runs but when i click on add-on tab it closes on its own and wont let me delete those add-ons
[23:48] <edbian> Sav_: hahaha
[23:48] <boxbeatsy> hi, does anyone know a way to track the average response time across all http requests that apache is serving?
[23:48] <Sav_> edbian: :C
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> induz: you now know more than me, could try the mozilla channel
[23:48] <induz> Phong_, can u direct me to the right place/web/chanel
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> induz: what is the output of:  lsb_release -c
[23:49] <induz> ActionParsnip, i dont know much about Ubuntu i am learning
[23:49] <Phong_> induz, dont ask me man, i dont know nothing
[23:50] <induz> ActionParsnip, Lucid
[23:50] <Sav_> edbian: Seriously, what did I break. I told it to mount and it said there was nothing there.
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> induz: did you install lightning with a deb?
[23:51] <induz> ActionParsnip, I dont remember
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> induz: try searching software centre
[23:52] <murazz__> hello, does anyone know how I can close this window? it's not responding by pressing ESC key http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/26/seleo018.png/
[23:52] <edbian> Sav_: Mount only works if the hdd shows up in the output of sudo fdisk -l
[23:52] <edbian> Sav_: This also tells you the X and Y in /dev/sdXY
[23:53] <Sav_> edbian: Um.
[23:53] <Sav_> edbian: So... what happened
[23:53] <Sav_> edbian: Is it still mounted?
[23:53] <Sav_> edbian: Somehow?
[23:54] <edbian> Sav_: mount tells you  what's mounted
[23:54] <spacefish> how do i build a ubuntu package locally?
[23:54] <edbian> Sav_: sudo fdisk -l   says it's connected (may be mounted, can't tell from fdisk)
[23:54] <spacefish> it always complains about not existing signing key if i just use debuild
[23:54] <murazz__> guys?
[23:54] <tensorpudding> you need to sign the package
[23:54] <Sav_> edbian: Okay
[23:55] <tensorpudding> there's not really a way to build a package without signing it
[23:55] <spacefish> but i don´t want to sign it
[23:55] <Sav_> edbian: So I shall sudo fdisk -l?
[23:55] <edbian> Sav_: I don't know what the problem is right now.
[23:55] <Sav_> edbian: Oh.
[23:55] <edbian> Sav_:
[23:55] <edbian> :)
[23:55] <trism> spacefish: debuild -uc -us -b
[23:55] <Sav_> edbian: I should really go to the forums for this
[23:55] <galamar> exit
[23:55] <Sav_> edbian: huh
[23:55] <edbian> Sav_: if you want
[23:56] <Mithadon> hey guys. I tried 10.04 and it finally works. However, I'm stuck at choosing partition. I want to use empty space I made and keep my windows 7 partition intact. I get "no root file system is defined"
[23:56] <Sav_> edbian: Well... I do need to make dinner at some point
[23:56] <spacefish> thx trism i will try
[23:56] <Sav_> edbian: You've been beyond helpful.
[23:56] <sagaci> Mithadon: allot free space to /
[23:56] <edbian> Sav_: Glad I could help!!
[23:56] <Mithadon> how do I do that?
[23:56] <Mithadon> hmm ok
[23:57] <sagaci> Mithadon: right click the free space partition, set to ext4, format the drive and enter a / in the bottom box
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> Mithadon: free space to / formatted ext4   with the same amount of space as you have ram for swap (I assume you have more than 2Gb RAM)
[23:57] <Sav_> edbian: Thank you!!
[23:57] <edbian> Sav_: sure :)
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> Mithadon: use custom partitioning
[23:57] <Mithadon> yeah I'm wondering abuot the swap? right now I have 160gb windows partition, 150gb data partition, and 10gb free space... what do I do with swap?
[23:57] <spacefish> works fine ;)
[23:58] <sagaci> Mithadon: how much ram do you have
[23:58] <Mithadon> 3gb
[23:58] <edbian> Mithadon: make swap 3Gb
[23:58] <daffy_> anyoe use the hanvo graphic tablet
[23:58] <Mithadon> so I make 2 partitions from the free space, 7gb and 3gb?
[23:58] <sagaci> I'd go 2GB swap, but anyway
[23:59] <sagaci> more for /
[23:59] <daffy_> havnon has no native linux support
[23:59] <daffy_> just wodering
[23:59] <daffy_> wondering
[23:59] <Mithadon> ive only got 11gb free right now - i couldnt shrink windows atm for some reason
[23:59] <edbian> Mithadon: What about ubuntu's /  ? or a /home ?
[23:59] <Mithadon> so i have to deal with that for all ubuntu needs
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> Mithadon: 3Gb swap, the rest for / formatted ext4.   Will that give you 3 partitions?