| gigenieks | I did delete using Live CD movie (6.5GB) and got Avail: 5.4G. Tried to login without Live Cd - worked. But I didn't download today / yesterday any stuff so it is quite wierd that suddenly Xubuntu "says" there is NO free space. Lets see how long I have to wait for this issue again... | 00:02 |
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| charlie-tca | Using the system generates some temporary files. For example, firefox keeps a hug amount of information for every website. | 00:03 |
| charlie-tca | editing a file may generate a backup, etc | 00:04 |
| charlie-tca | s/hug/huge | 00:04 |
| charlie-tca | logout/login may cause a session to be saved, more space used | 00:04 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| BurnZeZ | Hello. | 00:23 |
| BurnZeZ | I have a question which may sound dumb. | 00:23 |
| BurnZeZ | I can't seem to find the menu for altering network connections/settings. | 00:23 |
| === xGrind-off is now known as xGrind | ||
| pleb_ | anyone else have trouble using flux on xubuntu | 01:19 |
| pleb_ | it's not able to change my screen lighting. | 01:20 |
| pleb_ | hm, got it to work on one of my two monitors. | 01:21 |
| pleb_ | oh awesome, I can make it work by invoking xflux directly. | 01:30 |
| monica_ | can anyone help me with a sound problem? | 01:43 |
| pleia2 | I'd start here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems | 01:48 |
| pleia2 | hm, actually | 01:48 |
| pleia2 | there is a better page on help.ubuntu.com | 01:48 |
| pleia2 | here we go: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting | 01:49 |
| monica_ | the question is: how to change the sound to a USB headphone? | 01:51 |
| philipballew | monica_, there is probably a guide to this online, Let me help you with this | 01:55 |
| philipballew | :) | 01:55 |
| philipballew | ! alsa | 01:55 |
| ubottu | If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. | 01:55 |
| philipballew | !sound | 01:56 |
| philipballew | whats the model number? ill look it up online | 01:59 |
| monica_ | Philipballew thanks for you answer, but the discription you give looks like the settings that you have in Ubuntu (Gnome), but this is Xubuntu and here I can not find the same kind of audio settings as there are in Ubuntu (Gnome). | 02:02 |
| philipballew | yeah, someone should edit that bot. whats the model number of the headphones your running? i can look and see if I find anything | 02:03 |
| philipballew | but i would personally see if anyone has had trouble with your model as well | 02:06 |
| * philipballew is curious if alsa mixer picks them up when pluged in | 02:06 | |
| monica_ | it is not realy a headphone but it is en external sound device were you can connect a normal headphone. The type is X-FI Go from SoundBlaster. | 02:08 |
| philipballew | so the usb adapter has a female headphone jack at the end of it? | 02:10 |
| monica_ | if a connect it than i can select it in the audio output modules from the VLC player but sellecting it is not working. You are correct that the sound divice has a normal analog headphone connector like the pc also has, but the pc sound unit is not very good and the external unit gives far better sound. | 02:12 |
| philipballew | oh nice. what does alsamixer show? | 02:14 |
| philipballew | you type alsamixer in the terminal to get the thing to change all your audio settings | 02:15 |
| philipballew | ... well the main ones | 02:15 |
| monica_ | if a select the X-FI in the VLC settings than after about two seconds the pc speakers start to play again. | 02:16 |
| monica_ | i wil try you last sugestion | 02:16 |
| philipballew | there is probably a way to get them to automaticly go to that on boot or when the program starts | 02:17 |
| philipballew | its worth a shot. | 02:17 |
| monica_ | in the terminal alsamixer i can select the X-FI Go but than i can only see the settings and change the volume. As you suggest i wil try to do a reboot with the X-Fi Go connected. | 02:22 |
| monica_ | I this i will try a bit more tomorro, I go to bed now. Thanks for your help! | 02:23 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| celestial | hey every one i need a little help im trying to get video thumbnails in thunar and i hav e everything installed but still no thumbnails any one know how to fix this | 03:28 |
| jrmy | sorry to ask again.. but how do you install official java? | 03:32 |
| jrmy | i know you do something with enabling a repo.. and then i'd enter an sudo apt-get install java | 03:32 |
| jrmy | but i don't remember enough to do it on my own | 03:32 |
| jrmy | unless i can skip the first step | 03:33 |
| Unit193 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ#Some%20Java%20applications%20don%27t%20work,%20I%20want%20proprietary%20Oracle%20Java. | 03:34 |
| Unit193 | ^^^ Guide should be good for Any Ubuntu flavor | 03:35 |
| jrmy | lol, no wonder i forget how to do this.. i need to write this down for future installations of ubuntu | 03:37 |
| k_sze | There is no udevinfo or usbview in Xubuntu? | 03:39 |
| jrmy | im gonna bookmark the page for community user documentation | 03:42 |
| jrmy | hate bugging people to spoon feed me/being a burden | 03:42 |
| Unit193 | Eh, you can also search the wiki | 03:43 |
| jrmy | wiki? | 03:44 |
| jrmy | didn't even think of that | 03:44 |
| orngjce223 | Usually googling "ubuntu ___" or "xubuntu ___" will turn up something, as well. | 03:45 |
| orngjce223 | http://xkcd.com/627/ | 03:45 |
| orngjce223 | :V | 03:45 |
| jrmy | but, hell ive been using linux long enough where i should be able to take care of myself | 03:47 |
| jrmy | sure i keep switching between windows and linux but yeah | 03:47 |
| zenrox | i have used linux for the past 10 years + | 03:48 |
| Unit193 | So ^^ would be better to answer questions than I :P | 03:48 |
| zenrox | probly | 03:48 |
| zenrox | lol | 03:49 |
| zenrox | but i make good guesses cause i dont pretend to know it all | 03:50 |
| jrmy | i should probably try and help people in these channels | 03:51 |
| zenrox | i do sometimes | 03:51 |
| jrmy | hell i know i can help windows users as long as its not techy stuff | 03:51 |
| jrmy | well stuff thats not really complicated | 03:52 |
| jrmy | i actually probably know a little bit of the techy stuff | 03:52 |
| jrmy | but sweet ive got java and flash installed.. all done for now\ | 03:52 |
| zenrox | i know winshit in and out from 3.11 wfw till now | 03:52 |
| zenrox | and rh 3.2 | 03:53 |
| zenrox | till now | 03:53 |
| zenrox | and ubuntu from the first releace | 03:53 |
| jrmy | whats rh? | 03:53 |
| zenrox | i whent to linux for a new chalange | 03:53 |
| zenrox | rh=redhat | 03:53 |
| jrmy | ah | 03:53 |
| jrmy | yeah i think i tried ubuntu(which was also my first try at linux) back when 5.x was out | 03:54 |
| zenrox | i use warty worthog | 03:54 |
| zenrox | that was a pain | 03:54 |
| jrmy | hard to say though.. but i remember that the panels wouldn't work lol | 03:54 |
| jrmy | I don't remember the names well | 03:55 |
| Unit193 | It's so much easier to fix your own problems than others :P | 03:55 |
| zenrox | 5.4 or 5.10 | 03:55 |
| jrmy | I'm usually pretty good at fixing my problems | 03:55 |
| jrmy | kinda forced to when its a hardware issue where the computer won't start | 03:55 |
| zenrox | i member the first linux install i used i reinstalled it about 10 times to get it the way i wanted it rpms were just being intruduced | 03:56 |
| zenrox | linux has taught me more about hardware that windows has | 03:56 |
| zenrox | that=than | 03:56 |
| jrmy | ive had a good/fun use with both | 03:56 |
| jrmy | i'd probably try mac for a while too | 03:57 |
| zenrox | you can put linux on a mac | 03:57 |
| jrmy | right.. im talking about the os | 03:57 |
| jrmy | isnt it liek os/x or something? | 03:58 |
| jrmy | i really have no idea | 03:58 |
| zenrox | ya | 03:58 |
| zenrox | os x | 03:58 |
| zenrox | its backly unix | 03:58 |
| zenrox | or based on unix | 03:59 |
| jrmy | but, lol i'd never be stupid enough to buy a mac just to try the os out. | 03:59 |
| zenrox | its ok | 03:59 |
| zenrox | imho | 03:59 |
| jrmy | macs are way to expensive | 03:59 |
| jrmy | i'd rather make a custom build and then buy the os | 03:59 |
| zenrox | its like windows execpt the expancive hardware that is locked in | 03:59 |
| zenrox | i love linux just cause its so custimizable like the X86-64 hardware | 04:00 |
| jrmy | much more stable too | 04:01 |
| zenrox | that too | 04:01 |
| jrmy | lol wish linux had it all | 04:01 |
| jrmy | gaming audio creation and gaming | 04:01 |
| orngjce223 | Audio? | 04:01 |
| jrmy | whoops.. | 04:01 |
| zenrox | the only tang i am really dispointed is gamming and webcams | 04:01 |
| orngjce223 | try kxstudio heh | 04:02 |
| jrmy | well i'm only saying audio because of what i've heard about mac | 04:02 |
| zenrox | tho wine does play most of my games tho | 04:02 |
| jrmy | wine will probably play most of the games i play too | 04:02 |
| zenrox | wine has bine knowen to play some games faster than on windows | 04:03 |
| zenrox | like wow(blah) | 04:03 |
| Sysi | jrmy: afaik linux isn't that bad for music | 04:03 |
| orngjce223 | I come from the ubuntustudio side of the wall. | 04:03 |
| Sysi | there are good even commercial apps | 04:03 |
| orngjce223 | Linux has certain good audio workflows, and some not so good, but they're better than most people suspect. | 04:03 |
| orngjce223 | I will /never/ live without JACK again. | 04:04 |
| jrmy | i used arbour | 04:04 |
| jrmy | pretty good | 04:04 |
| jrmy | not sonar but still not bad | 04:04 |
| orngjce223 | Hours of fussing with questionable downloads of virtual drivers gone, just like that. Seriously. It's pretty awesome being able to wire things together, everything else on linux is icing. | 04:04 |
| orngjce223 | Now don't get me wrong, I use LMMS, which is still beta enough that it doesn't yet have a working "undo" button | 04:05 |
| orngjce223 | But it's all pretty cool. | 04:05 |
| zenrox | jack has bine good for the audiofiles | 04:05 |
| jrmy | i haven't thoroughly tested that yet because that last computer was too slow | 04:05 |
| zenrox | not for the everyday linux usere | 04:06 |
| orngjce223 | Yeah, that true. | 04:06 |
| zenrox | but alsa has come a long way | 04:06 |
| jrmy | not sure what jack is for never had a fast track to record with | 04:06 |
| orngjce223 | There's some niches in which it is incomparably awesome, and many in which it is pretty good, but where it's bad, it's bad enough to scare everyone away from it. | 04:06 |
| zenrox | yep | 04:07 |
| jrmy | still talking about lmms? | 04:07 |
| orngjce223 | Basically JACK connects program to program with super low latency | 04:07 |
| orngjce223 | I meant Linux in general | 04:07 |
| jrmy | ah.. right.. i'd agree | 04:07 |
| orngjce223 | Mmhm | 04:07 |
| zenrox | but linux will get thare | 04:08 |
| zenrox | and will outshine | 04:08 |
| zenrox | any other os | 04:08 |
| jrmy | if linux had gaming i'd say buh bye to windows forever | 04:08 |
| orngjce223 | It does. Just not the AAA titles. | 04:08 |
| zenrox | i have watched it grow the last 10 years and it has gotten way better | 04:08 |
| orngjce223 | And let me be honest | 04:08 |
| jrmy | right | 04:08 |
| orngjce223 | It's for those blockbusters that is the /only/ place the bazaar development model doesn't work. | 04:08 |
| zenrox | yep | 04:09 |
| orngjce223 | You can have many people chipping away at code, but herding artists is like herding cats. | 04:09 |
| Sysi | jrmy: you can quit gaming :P | 04:09 |
| jrmy | Sysi: lol | 04:09 |
| zenrox | sysi lol | 04:09 |
| orngjce223 | Heheheheh | 04:09 |
| zenrox | never | 04:09 |
| orngjce223 | I'll be honest | 04:09 |
| orngjce223 | My gaming experience consists of a hundred hours of Desktop Tower Defense | 04:09 |
| * zenrox stomps his wand of justice | 04:09 | |
| jrmy | i do like consoles alike though | 04:09 |
| orngjce223 | And really flash games are cool tbh, if you get the good ones | 04:09 |
| jrmy | from the atari to current gen | 04:09 |
| orngjce223 | I don't do high polygon super realistic stuff though | 04:10 |
| orngjce223 | I understand Crysis is someone's piece of cake, but I don't get that, personally. | 04:10 |
| orngjce223 | Eh | 04:10 |
| jrmy | i need a little more action in the games i play | 04:10 |
| orngjce223 | Probably my brain's fault really. | 04:10 |
| orngjce223 | I don't get the uncanny valley effect either. | 04:10 |
| jrmy | idk if i'd liek crysis to be honest | 04:10 |
| Sysi | you have dosbox, what else could you need besides linux games | 04:10 |
| orngjce223 | I'm not normal enough to make such judgements for other people. | 04:10 |
| zenrox | like nwn for linux | 04:11 |
| jrmy | whats nwn? | 04:11 |
| zenrox | never winter nights | 04:11 |
| jrmy | never played | 04:11 |
| zenrox | its a d and d based rpg | 04:11 |
| jrmy | gotcha | 04:11 |
| zenrox | done by atari | 04:12 |
| Renegade_ | I have a intel atom 330 nvida ion with 2GB ram...should I install 32bit or 64bit? | 04:12 |
| zenrox | Renegade_, id do 32 bit | 04:12 |
| zenrox | but thats a persional preff | 04:12 |
| Renegade_ | any reason why? | 04:12 |
| jrmy | i wonder if that cpu is even 64 | 04:12 |
| jrmy | i'd doubt it | 04:12 |
| zenrox | it is | 04:12 |
| zenrox | i think | 04:12 |
| Sysi | you don't really benefit from 64 there | 04:13 |
| jrmy | really? guess i need to read up on intel... or not.. i actually prefer amd | 04:13 |
| jrmy | lol | 04:13 |
| jrmy | yeah the hardware isn't good enough | 04:13 |
| orngjce223 | Eh, 64 introduces lots of incompatibilities | 04:13 |
| Renegade_ | yeah it is 64 bit | 04:13 |
| zenrox | i have a amd athlon x2 64 3200 | 04:13 |
| orngjce223 | If you never venture outside the repos that's not too much of a problem | 04:13 |
| Sysi | orngjce223: not really | 04:13 |
| orngjce223 | Mmhm | 04:14 |
| zenrox | an i run 32 bit | 04:14 |
| Renegade_ | I installed 64 bit but not sure if I should stick with it or 32 bit | 04:14 |
| orngjce223 | I just tried and failed to put in the 64 bit flash player a month or two ago | 04:14 |
| jrmy | zenrox: i think i have a similar cpu | 04:14 |
| orngjce223 | So when it's bad, it's bad. Yeah. | 04:14 |
| Sysi | orngjce223: that works well for me | 04:14 |
| Sysi | Renegade_: if everythong works, dont fix it | 04:15 |
| Renegade_ | well it works but if one runs better I wouldn't mind using that instead | 04:17 |
| Renegade_ | this is what I got http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856176002 | 04:17 |
| jrmy | hmm.. never seen anything liek that before.. kinda neat | 04:19 |
| Renegade_ | very sleek and small. love it | 04:21 |
| Renegade_ | got it on sale when it was $130 | 04:21 |
| jrmy | nice | 04:22 |
| Renegade_ | got a 2.5 inch 500gb lying around and bought 1x2gb ddr2 ram and got it running in no time | 04:22 |
| Renegade_ | would of got 4gb ram but ddr2 sodimm are expensive | 04:22 |
| jrmy | i'd still prefer an ATX though | 04:23 |
| Renegade_ | yeah I'll probably get a matx for when diablo 3 comes out | 04:23 |
| Renegade_ | this is my first upgrade since 2004 so the computer I'm using was ancient | 04:24 |
| Renegade_ | amd barton +2500XP | 04:24 |
| Evanescence | how to change Xubuntu's default notify into libnotify-bin ? | 04:46 |
| jrmy | what should i use to record audio? | 05:43 |
| jrmy | apparently ardour doesnt work for 64bit | 05:43 |
| jrmy | so now i regret installing xubuntu 64bit | 05:43 |
| Unit193 | Seen Audacity? | 05:47 |
| jrmy | anything better> | 05:48 |
| jrmy | ?* | 05:48 |
| jrmy | yes.. | 05:48 |
| jrmy | guess i'll just download lmms | 05:51 |
| toddlikesdesign | anyone use midori? | 06:01 |
| bazhang | toddlikesdesign, whats the question about it | 06:02 |
| toddlikesdesign | Why does it have issues with gmail? | 06:03 |
| bazhang | toddlikesdesign, what issues? | 06:03 |
| toddlikesdesign | Gmail doesn't finish loading. Won't load the ajax version without identifying itself as another browser. I suppose that's on gmail's end though. | 06:05 |
| toddlikesdesign | What does a red address bar signify? | 06:05 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| bazhang | http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/gmail/thread?tid=19f570d38b8867e7&hl=en toddlikesdesign may want to check this, last post | 06:07 |
| riccardo | Hi, is it a Italian speaker ? | 07:03 |
| knome | !it | riccardo | 07:04 |
| ubottu | riccardo: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) | 07:04 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| k_sze | So Xubuntu doesn't seem to have udevinfo or usbview. | 07:51 |
| k_sze | What do I do to extract similar info? | 07:51 |
| k_sze | Is it because Xubuntu doesn't even use udev anymore? | 07:52 |
| TheSheep | k_sze: lsusb? | 08:20 |
| xublinux | What is more stable: Xfburn, K3b or Brasero? | 09:09 |
| philipballew | can you try all and choose? | 09:10 |
| xublinux | Yes, I can... :) | 09:15 |
| xublinux | But I have wasted some DVDs with errors with brasero (always making a data disk, i don't no why) and I'd like to know wich of them runs better on xubuntu in order to not waste more disks. | 09:18 |
| Ycarene | I have good luck with k3b even though I don't use KDE | 09:26 |
| === SaaMmY1 is now known as SaaMmY | ||
| xublinux | thanks Ycarene. I'll try k3b. (I use xfce. But in this thing I prefer something to save money in disks that something faster) | 09:32 |
| tokksen | I'm having problems with getting multiple monitors to work correctly. I don't know how to disable mirroring, I see no option for that in the xfce display settings. (xubuntu 11.04, notebook display + external monitor) | 11:43 |
| Myrtti | try with xrandr or grandr, latter has a gui | 11:44 |
| tokksen | grandr did the trick, thank you! | 11:46 |
| Myrtti | np :-) | 11:47 |
| Sysi | Myrtti: do grandr and arandr have any (major) difference? dependencies if not usability | 11:49 |
| Myrtti | Sysi: I have experience only on grandr | 11:56 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| === NikonElite is now known as NikonElite|AFK| | ||
| ChristopherNG | Does anyone one else find it difficult to know which hdd is which when they are given names like sdd1, sde2 etc | 15:30 |
| ChristopherNG | is there an "easy" of telling which one is which | 15:31 |
| ChristopherNG | especially when you have a few hdds the same size | 15:31 |
| madnick | but you know where your filesystems are right? | 15:32 |
| ChristopherNG | I normally do ls /media | 15:33 |
| ChristopherNG | and then change to the directory if thats what you mean | 15:33 |
| ChristopherNG | madnick: I would rather they were named better so its easier to tell which hdd is which one especially when they are the same size | 15:34 |
| ChristopherNG | picking a hdd is sometimes like picking a wire to cut in defusing a bomb. | 15:35 |
| ChristopherNG | the red or the blue? | 15:35 |
| madnick | So give your disks names | 15:35 |
| ChristopherNG | let me see how to do that | 15:35 |
| Sysi | you can name partitions with gparted | 15:45 |
| Sysi | HDDs are in same order that they're connected to sata- and other connectors | 15:47 |
| ChristopherNG | yeah im looking into it now | 15:48 |
| genii-around | I sometimes find https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive#Filesystems useful, it shows all the command line ways to change volume names on drives, depending on what filesystem is on them | 15:52 |
| ChristopherNG | hey folks, im outputting from my laptop to my screen, but the resolution on the tv is much higher than the laptop so it looks a little off, instead of an exact mirror.. | 16:15 |
| ChristopherNG | any easy way to get an exact mirror of the laptop to fit exactly on the television screen, i have been playing around with the resolutions | 16:16 |
| xrdodrx | ChristopherNG, it really depends | 17:03 |
| xrdodrx | for instance the max resolution of most TV's isn't higher than 1080p even though they might be 40" | 17:04 |
| xrdodrx | really whatever you do it's going to look a little off | 17:04 |
| xrdodrx | the best you can get is to run xrandr -q | 17:05 |
| xrdodrx | find out the television's highest possible resolution | 17:05 |
| xrdodrx | and set it to that | 17:05 |
| xrdodrx | a TV does not make a good computer monitor :) | 17:05 |
| madnick | they did back in the 70s! | 17:06 |
| xrdodrx | madnick, ;) | 17:07 |
| ChristopherNG | xrdodrx: Hi sorry for the late reply ive been multi tasking | 17:44 |
| xrdodrx | ChristopherNG, that's okay | 17:44 |
| ChristopherNG | So there is "no fix" for a "perfect mirror resolution"? | 17:44 |
| xrdodrx | can you post the output of xrandr -q to pastebin or something? | 17:45 |
| ChristopherNG | Its fine for movies because VLC has the aspect ratio feature | 17:45 |
| ChristopherNG | xrdodrx: kk | 17:45 |
| ChristopherNG | xrdodrx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662842/ | 17:46 |
| xrdodrx | ChristopherNG, this is part of your problem | 17:46 |
| xrdodrx | 1680x1050 60.0* | 17:46 |
| xrdodrx | the * denotes which resolution the monitor is currently at | 17:47 |
| xrdodrx | or in your case the TV | 17:47 |
| ChristopherNG | xrdodrx: should i change the 60.0? | 17:49 |
| ChristopherNG | to match the laptop? | 17:49 |
| xrdodrx | xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1440x900 --pos 0x0 --output HDMImode 1920x1080--pos 0x0 | 17:49 |
| xrdodrx | let's try something like that first | 17:49 |
| xrdodrx | xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1440x900 --pos 0x0 --output HDMI --mode 1920x1080--pos 0x0 | 17:49 |
| xrdodrx | sorry | 17:49 |
| ChristopherNG | xrdodrx: you want me to put that into the terminal then? | 17:49 |
| ChristopherNG | the second one? | 17:50 |
| xrdodrx | xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1440x900 --pos 0x0 --output HDMI --mode 1920x1080 --pos 0x0 | 17:50 |
| xrdodrx | yes | 17:50 |
| xrdodrx | try that | 17:50 |
| xrdodrx | made sure all spaces and things were right :) | 17:50 |
| ChristopherNG | ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1440x900 --pos 0x0 --output HDMI --mode 1920x1080 --pos 0x0 | 17:52 |
| ChristopherNG | warning: output LVDS not found; ignoring | 17:52 |
| ChristopherNG | warning: output HDMI not found; ignoring | 17:52 |
| xrdodrx | ChristopherNG, o | 17:53 |
| ChristopherNG | ? | 17:53 |
| xrdodrx | xrandr --output LVDS-1 --mode 1440x900 --pos 0x0 --output HDMI-1 --mode 1920x1080 --pos 0x0 | 17:53 |
| xrdodrx | sorry | 17:53 |
| ChristopherNG | xrdodrx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/662850/ | 17:54 |
| xrdodrx | you didn't copy the whole command ChristopherNG | 17:55 |
| ChristopherNG | i didnt? let me check :( | 17:55 |
| ChristopherNG | xrdodrx: i ran the command and it changed the screen a little | 17:57 |
| xrdodrx | ChristopherNG, it should have | 17:58 |
| xrdodrx | how does it look now? :) | 17:58 |
| ChristopherNG | abit worse actually | 17:58 |
| xrdodrx | explain | 17:58 |
| xrdodrx | is anything off screen | 17:58 |
| xrdodrx | is it taking up the whole screen | 17:58 |
| xrdodrx | etc | 17:58 |
| ChristopherNG | there is more off the screen now | 17:59 |
| xrdodrx | okay | 18:00 |
| ChristopherNG | its hard to explain to someone who can not see it. | 18:00 |
| xrdodrx | ChristopherNG, play with xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 1920x1080 --pos *x* | 18:00 |
| xrdodrx | don't paste that command as is, change the numbers after pos | 18:00 |
| ChristopherNG | xrdodrx: yes change the "*" | 18:01 |
| xrdodrx | yes | 18:01 |
| ChristopherNG | give me a number to start at plz | 18:01 |
| ChristopherNG | roughly and i take it from there | 18:01 |
| xrdodrx | ChristopherNG, 100 :) | 18:01 |
| ChristopherNG | troll | 18:01 |
| ChristopherNG | lol | 18:01 |
| xrdodrx | I really can't see to help you | 18:01 |
| xrdodrx | this is where the left corner of the screen is | 18:01 |
| xrdodrx | in x, y | 18:02 |
| xrdodrx | any luck, ChristopherNG ? | 18:07 |
| gridcube | ChristopherNG: doesnt your tv/monitor has an autosetup? try shutting it off and on to see if it fixes itself | 18:09 |
| xrdodrx | what gridcube said also might work, as it would re-adjust to fit the output X is giving to it | 18:10 |
| xrdodrx | :) | 18:10 |
| ChristopherNG | yeah im trying and i think im getting closer | 18:10 |
| ChristopherNG | the thing is this command that im running only changes the display on the tv not the laptop right? | 18:10 |
| xrdodrx | yes | 18:11 |
| gridcube | doesnt your output has a 1080 or 720 set? you should try those too | 18:11 |
| gridcube | ChristopherNG: whats your tv model? | 18:12 |
| ChristopherNG | acer 23" model no: AT2365M 1080P | 18:14 |
| gridcube | at2365? acer page only lists 2326 on the 23" | 18:16 |
| ChristopherNG | let me find it | 18:16 |
| gridcube | on 32" there is a 3265 | 18:17 |
| ChristopherNG | sorry its actually at2356m | 18:18 |
| ChristopherNG | multitasking here | 18:18 |
| gridcube | > 1920 x 1080 pixels @ 60 Hz refresh rate (for 23” models ). | 18:21 |
| ChristopherNG | xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 1920x1080 --pos | 18:22 |
| ChristopherNG | so what to change that last part to? | 18:22 |
| ChristopherNG | 60x60? | 18:22 |
| ChristopherNG | this is really irritating lol | 18:22 |
| ChristopherNG | yeah its a 23 inch | 18:22 |
| xrdodrx | ChristopherNG, you either auto adjust the monitor or `guess and check' | 18:22 |
| ChristopherNG | 20x60 the 20 is the left and the 60 the right? | 18:23 |
| xrdodrx | no | 18:23 |
| xrdodrx | it's 20 to the right and 60 down | 18:23 |
| xrdodrx | or should be | 18:23 |
| gridcube | 66.6h 60v | 18:26 |
| ChristopherNG | im confused aswell | 18:27 |
| xrdodrx | :< | 18:28 |
| xrdodrx | so am I | 18:28 |
| xrdodrx | you said your only issue was that the picture was offscreen | 18:28 |
| gridcube | http://support.acer.com/us/en/product/default.aspx?tab=1&modelId=3405 | 18:29 |
| gridcube | ok gotta go | 18:29 |
| gridcube | :D good luck | 18:29 |
| ChristopherNG | back sorry i got dc | 18:39 |
| ChristopherNG | now here is what i think | 18:40 |
| ChristopherNG | 1. I should lower the resolution on the tv becaues its far too high | 18:40 |
| xrdodrx | ChristopherNG, sometimes a picture speaks a thousand words | 18:40 |
| xrdodrx | if you take one I can help you much better :) | 18:40 |
| ChristopherNG | sure where to upload it? | 18:40 |
| xrdodrx | imgur, imageshack | 18:41 |
| xrdodrx | your choice | 18:41 |
| ChristopherNG | give me a minute | 18:41 |
| ChristopherNG | um wait! | 18:41 |
| ChristopherNG | i think it just auto adjusted there | 18:41 |
| ChristopherNG | wow! | 18:41 |
| ChristopherNG | its almost fixed | 18:41 |
| xrdodrx | :D | 18:41 |
| ChristopherNG | let me xrandr -q and paste it | 18:42 |
| ChristopherNG | http://paste.ubuntu.com/662873/ | 18:43 |
| ChristopherNG | how is that different from the first xrandr -q i posted? | 18:44 |
| ChristopherNG | it looks much, much better on the tv | 18:44 |
| ChristopherNG | not 100% but 90% | 18:44 |
| xrdodrx | glad to hear it :) | 18:44 |
| xrdodrx | sorry the resolution I recommended was too high | 18:44 |
| xrdodrx | every TV is different | 18:44 |
| ChristopherNG | 1680x1050+0+0 | 18:45 |
| ChristopherNG | is that what the tv is now? | 18:45 |
| xrdodrx | yes | 18:45 |
| xrdodrx | that means --mode 1680x1050 --pos 0x0 | 18:46 |
| ChristopherNG | great because i need to shift it to the right a little on the tv i change the y axis? | 18:46 |
| ChristopherNG | HDMI-1 connected 1680x1050+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) | 18:46 |
| xrdodrx | try changing the x axis | 18:46 |
| xrdodrx | x goes left to right, y goes up and down | 18:47 |
| ChristopherNG | ok remember the current settings in case i forget them plz. | 18:47 |
| xrdodrx | sure :) | 18:47 |
| ChristopherNG | this is the closest ever! | 18:47 |
| ChristopherNG | xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 1680x1050 --pos 5x0 | 18:50 |
| ChristopherNG | im going to try that | 18:50 |
| ChristopherNG | move from the left to the right alittle | 18:51 |
| xrdodrx | okay | 18:51 |
| ChristopherNG | ok | 18:56 |
| xrdodrx | ChristopherNG, fixed? | 18:56 |
| ChristopherNG | mostly, just want to fix the pannels now | 18:56 |
| ChristopherNG | the dock pannel at the bottom is not appearing on the laptop but appears massive on the screen | 18:57 |
| ChristopherNG | and the laptop shows the top pannel which the tv doesnt | 18:57 |
| ChristopherNG | i think that is more with the pannel preferences | 18:57 |
| xrdodrx | yeah | 18:57 |
| xrdodrx | I can't help too much in that department :( | 18:57 |
| xrdodrx | I'm glad your TV is displaying the best picture it can though :) | 18:57 |
| ChristopherNG | yeah thanks for the help | 18:58 |
| ChristopherNG | btw what does "span monitors" do in the pannel preferences? | 18:58 |
| ChristopherNG | ive clicked it and unclicked didnt seem to do anything | 18:58 |
| xrdodrx | ChristopherNG, you should try simply restarting the panels before going through all these preferences | 18:59 |
| xrdodrx | killall xfce4-panel && nohup xfce4-panel & | 18:59 |
| ChristopherNG | xrdodrx: i do that and they will reappear? | 18:59 |
| xrdodrx | yes | 19:00 |
| ChristopherNG | last thing i need is no pannels lol! | 19:00 |
| ChristopherNG | kk let me do it | 19:00 |
| xrdodrx | that's what the second part of the command is | 19:00 |
| xrdodrx | :) | 19:00 |
| ChristopherNG | kk thanks | 19:02 |
| xrdodrx | did restarting the panels help? | 19:02 |
| ChristopherNG | yeah it appears in both now the bottom panel | 19:02 |
| xrdodrx | good :D | 19:02 |
| ChristopherNG | im going to reboot and see what happens | 19:03 |
| ChristopherNG | xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 1680x1050 --pos 0x0 | 19:04 |
| ChristopherNG | thats my settings for the television | 19:04 |
| xrdodrx | ChristopherNG, might not want to do that :< | 19:04 |
| xrdodrx | also your settings are 5x0 | 19:04 |
| xrdodrx | xrandr's state usually is not preserved between reboots | 19:04 |
| ChristopherNG | xrdodrx: i changed it back to 0x0 because it was pointless trying to move the screen to the right when you can easily move the icons. | 19:04 |
| xrdodrx | you're going to need to save that somewhere, and maybe even the command to restart the panels | 19:04 |
| xrdodrx | oh | 19:05 |
| xrdodrx | I see ;) | 19:05 |
| ChristopherNG | xrdodrx: the best test is probably going to play a movie let me try that before i reboot | 19:05 |
| ChristopherNG | xrdodrx: do you remember what the laptop settings were in the xrandr -q? | 19:19 |
| ChristopherNG | the first one? | 19:19 |
| ChristopherNG | your sure the xrandr --output HDMI-1 --mode 1680x1050 --pos 0x0 | 19:20 |
| ChristopherNG | only changes the display on the television not the laptop right? | 19:20 |
| ChristopherNG | ah its cool it got it now | 19:24 |
| ChristopherNG | Folks, how about this, cant there be a program written that automaatically detects what devices are connected from a graphics card out put and calculate the best output resolution to that screen? | 19:49 |
| ChristopherNG | Or does this already exist and ive been wasting my time? | 19:49 |
| charlie-tca | Sure, when do expect to have it started? | 19:49 |
| charlie-tca | Sure, when do you expect to have it started? | 19:50 |
| ChristopherNG | well im not actually a programmer, im an accountant | 19:50 |
| charlie-tca | There is, as always, a severe shortage of those who can write such programs | 19:50 |
| ChristopherNG | charlie-tca: I really wish i came across this problem the other day when xubuntu devs were meeting in that channel. | 19:51 |
| charlie-tca | It is not an easy program to write, even though it may make it easy to set things up | 19:51 |
| ChristopherNG | but i doubt they would want to spend time to make it. | 19:51 |
| charlie-tca | They don't have time to make it | 19:51 |
| ChristopherNG | so there is no such program written by anyone for any linux distrobution? | 19:51 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know. Linux has many distributions, and I am not familiar with most of them | 19:52 |
| ChristopherNG | well i will see if there is one out there for other distros and if its open sources maybe we can make a ppa or something from it for the ubuntu distros? | 19:53 |
| ChristopherNG | ive been doing this for a while and its long, dull and generally quite depressing. | 19:53 |
| madnick | I don't understand this issue :) | 19:56 |
| madnick | I have ATI and Nvidia cards, infact i use HDMI daily, and amdcccle works fine, same with nvidia-settings | 19:56 |
| ChristopherNG | madnick: you use HDMI daily, now tell me this.. | 19:58 |
| ChristopherNG | How did you get the correct resolution to output on the television so it was a perfect mirror of your laptop/desktop? | 19:58 |
| ChristopherNG | did you use xrandr and keep moving it around? | 19:58 |
| madnick | No | 19:58 |
| madnick | I used amdcccle / nvidia-settings | 19:59 |
| ChristopherNG | and its a perfect mirror? | 19:59 |
| madnick | yes it is | 19:59 |
| ChristopherNG | :) | 19:59 |
| madnick | I dont think manually using xrandr is recommended, especially for new users | 20:00 |
| ChristopherNG | well ive been trying to play around with that all day with mixed results | 20:00 |
| madnick | ChristopherNG: what card do you have? | 20:01 |
| ChristopherNG | product: G98 [GeForce 9200M GS] | 20:02 |
| ChristopherNG | vendor: nVidia Corporation | 20:02 |
| ChristopherNG | i havent tried nvidia settings, not even sure where it is? i dont see it in the software center, is it in the repositories? | 20:02 |
| madnick | and when you installed the drivers for this, it did not install nvidia-settings? | 20:02 |
| madnick | Look at Settings -> | 20:03 |
| ChristopherNG | i havent installed prop drivers or any graphics drivers, tried doing it manually | 20:03 |
| ChristopherNG | sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings | 20:03 |
| ChristopherNG | shall i? | 20:04 |
| madnick | No, you should get the proper driver if you dont have it :) | 20:04 |
| ChristopherNG | i ok ive went system -> additional drivers | 20:05 |
| ChristopherNG | its searched and there is an "experimental 3d support for nvidia cards" | 20:05 |
| ChristopherNG | thats the only one, activate? | 20:05 |
| madnick | sure, but also try typing: sudo nvidia-settings in a terminal | 20:05 |
| ChristopherNG | The program 'nvidia-settings' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: | 20:05 |
| ChristopherNG | i did sudo aswell | 20:06 |
| ChristopherNG | i dont have it. | 20:06 |
| madnick | okay, then activate that driver | 20:06 |
| ChristopherNG | activating, i think i will need to reboot and come back | 20:06 |
| madnick | It has been ages since I installed the nvidia drivers :) | 20:06 |
| ChristopherNG | activated and in use, its asking me to reboot. | 20:06 |
| ChristopherNG | brb | 20:06 |
| ChristopherNG | back | 20:09 |
| madnick | now rerun sudo nvidia-settings :) | 20:10 |
| ChristopherNG | ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo nvidia-settings | 20:10 |
| ChristopherNG | sudo: nvidia-settings: command not found | 20:10 |
| ChristopherNG | I think i have to get it from the repos | 20:10 |
| ChristopherNG | it doesnt come with that driver i dont think | 20:11 |
| madnick | Perhaps | 20:11 |
| ChristopherNG | i tried it without sudo aswell. | 20:11 |
| ChristopherNG | ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ nvidia-settings | 20:11 |
| ChristopherNG | The program 'nvidia-settings' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: | 20:11 |
| ChristopherNG | sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings | 20:11 |
| ChristopherNG | im going to get it from the repos ok? | 20:11 |
| madnick | sure | 20:12 |
| madnick | I find this whole deal very wierd, but Im still using 10.04 on the nvidia computer :) | 20:12 |
| ChristopherNG | done ive got it | 20:12 |
| ChristopherNG | ok ive typed "nvidia-settings" and its opened up | 20:12 |
| madnick | then just set it up :) | 20:13 |
| ChristopherNG | but I get a message "You do not appear to be using the Nvidia x driver please edit your X configuration file (just run 'nvidia-xconfig' as root and restart the x server" | 20:13 |
| ChristopherNG | sudo nvidia-xconfig ? or do i need to edit it with a text editor? | 20:14 |
| madnick | iirc it should do it all for you | 20:14 |
| ChristopherNG | well there is an "ok" button there click it then? | 20:15 |
| ChristopherNG | and ok button for that message i just tyoed. | 20:15 |
| madnick | I don't really remember the details :) | 20:16 |
| ChristopherNG | well how you gets your working? | 20:16 |
| madnick | I got the driver from their website | 20:16 |
| madnick | and installed it from there | 20:16 |
| ChristopherNG | http://www.nvidia.co.uk/content/DriverDownload-March2009/confirmation.php?url=/XFree86/Linux-x86/280.13/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-280.13.run&lang=uk&type=GeForce | 20:21 |
| ChristopherNG | that is the driver apparently i need. | 20:21 |
| ChristopherNG | When i click to download, it opens up a bunch of text | 20:21 |
| ChristopherNG | a .run is that a binary installer of somekind | 20:21 |
| ChristopherNG | ? | 20:21 |
| madnick | chmod +x file | 20:22 |
| madnick | ./file | 20:22 |
| ChristopherNG | ok let me use wget to download it | 20:22 |
| ChristopherNG | kk wget worked and its in my home directory | 20:22 |
| madnick | Sorry, I have to go for a bit, i bbl | 20:23 |
| slipkid08 | hey guys | 20:40 |
| slipkid08 | how do I upgrade my xubuntu to 11.10 A? | 20:41 |
| Sysi | update-manager -d | 20:41 |
| slipkid08 | ah | 20:41 |
| Sysi | alpha support at #ubuntu+1, I guess you already know to exept some flicks | 20:41 |
| slipkid08 | I know quite a bit about the CLI but I am still learning | 20:42 |
| slipkid08 | :) | 20:42 |
| slipkid08 | its gonna restart me | 20:43 |
| slipkid08 | late | 20:43 |
| coyoteuk5 | Hello can someone help me with the file manager thunor as regards my mp3 player | 21:03 |
| xrdodrx | coyoteuk5, maybe | 21:07 |
| xrdodrx | how are the two related? :) | 21:08 |
| coyoteuk5 | ok I got a creative mp player and when I delete the files on thep layer usung the file manager thry go to a thrash file on the player so I now have an mp 3 player that is full of stuff but I cannot delete them | 21:09 |
| coyoteuk5 | sorry for mispeling | 21:09 |
| coyoteuk5 | is it clear or do you have any questions | 21:10 |
| xrdodrx | oh | 21:10 |
| xrdodrx | I had this problem as well | 21:11 |
| coyoteuk5 | did you solve it | 21:11 |
| xrdodrx | go to the root of your mp3 player's file system | 21:11 |
| xrdodrx | hit ctrl+h | 21:11 |
| xrdodrx | delete the ,Trash-1000 folder | 21:11 |
| xrdodrx | shift+delete key | 21:11 |
| xrdodrx | in the future when you want to delete a file use shift+delete instead of just hitting delete | 21:12 |
| coyoteuk5 | I got the folder open now I wil try it now | 21:14 |
| coyoteuk5 | its saying unable ot move file to wate basket | 21:15 |
| coyoteuk5 | waste | 21:15 |
| coyoteuk5 | one minute I am going to disconnect it and try it again | 21:17 |
| coyoteuk5 | No still the same message | 21:18 |
| coyoteuk5 | dso you think if I put it on the boards someone might have an idea | 21:19 |
| coyoteuk5 | well thank you for your help anyway | 21:22 |
| coyoteuk5 | I will try that | 21:22 |
| ChristopherNG | Ok folks, I have a perfect mirror image on my television of my laptop. | 22:23 |
| ChristopherNG | Here is how to do it if anyone has the same problem and they cant get the resolutions right. | 22:23 |
| ChristopherNG | its 100% | 22:24 |
| charlie-tca | ChristopherNG: why not write up a wiki page for it? | 22:25 |
| ChristopherNG | charlie-tca: Thats actually a very good idea | 22:25 |
| ChristopherNG | because I know there will be other people out there with the same problem who dont want to spend all day getting it fixed. | 22:25 |
| ChristopherNG | charlie-tca: where to make the wiki? | 22:26 |
| charlie-tca | something like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuDualMonitor maybe or similar | 22:26 |
| charlie-tca | ? | 22:26 |
| ChristopherNG | excellent | 22:26 |
| ChristopherNG | It will be good to give something back to the community. | 22:26 |
| charlie-tca | That pins it to Xubuntu, DualMonitor is whatever you think it should be | 22:27 |
| charlie-tca | That would be great! | 22:27 |
| ChristopherNG | charlie-tca: is it just me or does xubuntu not have "add new monitor" button like ubuntu? | 22:49 |
| charlie-tca | I never heard of such a button | 22:49 |
| charlie-tca | There are very definite differences between Ubuntu and Xubuntu, that may be one | 22:50 |
| ChristopherNG | that is why it took me 7 hours to get my laptop to output correctly to the television. | 22:50 |
| charlie-tca | That's why I say Xubuntu is not for new users of linux | 22:50 |
| ChristopherNG | Basically if i use monitor A to output with my laptop. | 22:50 |
| ChristopherNG | then I disattach A and connect a new screen B | 22:50 |
| charlie-tca | It really is not as simple as Ubuntu to make work | 22:50 |
| ChristopherNG | Xubuntu tries to make the same output for B as it was for A | 22:51 |
| ChristopherNG | thats why i spent 7 hours trying to fix it | 22:51 |
| ChristopherNG | I was tyring to tweak the settings for monitor A to fit B using xrandr lol! | 22:51 |
| ChristopherNG | ...a little to the left, up, no down! | 22:51 |
| ChristopherNG | waste of time. | 22:51 |
| ChristopherNG | Im going to make a wiki for this tomorrow | 22:52 |
| charlie-tca | apparently, I still use one monitor for each computer here | 22:52 |
| charlie-tca | It seems so much easier | 22:52 |
| ChristopherNG | with ubuntu or xubuntu? | 22:52 |
| charlie-tca | Xubuntu, of course. I test everything, I run Xubuntu | 22:53 |
| ChristopherNG | K, well just so everyone knows, If you attach a new monitor when you have been using a different one, Xubuntu will try outputting the same resolution on the new screen as it was for the old screen. | 22:53 |
| ChristopherNG | ..so dont spend all day using xrandr trying to make the old settings for the old monitor fit the new one. | 22:54 |
| ChristopherNG | I planned to setup my vps today! but never had the time lol! | 22:55 |
| Matryx | can someone help me with this. I keep getting an error: file not found when booting into OPENELEC http://imageshack.us/f/814/parion.png/ | 23:12 |
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