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oSoMoNgood morning07:03
MacSlowola07:07
andyrockgood morning08:08
njpatelhey andyrock08:09
andyrockhey njpatel, nice work yesterday08:09
njpatelandyrock, thanks, still lots to do, though, didn't have time to polish08:10
andyrocknjpatel, i don't understand why remove bfb button from the panel...08:12
njpatelandyrock, because it's on the launcher now08:13
andyrocknjpatel, i know (so i don't understand why move launcher from panel to launcher :)08:14
andyrock*to move08:14
andyrock*first launcher->bfb08:14
njpatelandyrock, heh, it was because people couldn't find the BFB in testing all the time, or they didn't know it was clickable08:14
njpatellauncher icon is larger and people understood it was special and clickable08:15
andyrocknjpatel, ah ok :)08:15
andyrocknjpatel, do you know if it is possible (and after all if it is legal) calling nux EnableInputWindow(true/false, "bla bla") more and more time?08:19
andyrockon a same nux::BaseWindow...08:19
njpatelandyrock, yep, it only creates it once internally08:21
htorqueMacSlow: about bug 821719 - i can only reproduce this with an intel hd graphics 3000 system, not with intel hd graphics 2000 in my laptop - could this be a driver issue?08:21
ubot5Launchpad bug 821719 in notify-osd (Ubuntu) "Bubbles too opaque in Unity 2D" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82171908:22
MacSlowhtorque, oh... very odd :)08:22
MacSlowhtorque, something as simple as opacity being a driver issue... but well... it's intel... you never know ;)08:22
andyrocknjpatel, and i have to call enableinputwindow(false, "bla bla") or nux::showindow(false) will do it for me?08:23
MacSlowhtorque, but since this is your observation and you have it working correctly on the other system... it's a clear indicator that that's a driver bug08:23
MacSlowhtorque, re-file it against the driver then I'd say08:24
htorqueMacSlow: or that my install is somehow borked ;-) i will do an A3 installation on an external drive, just to be sure.08:24
MacSlowhtorque, ok08:24
htorqueor probably a live cd should do08:24
njpatelandyrock, i just call EnableInputWindow(true/false....   see DashController.cpp in trunk08:27
andyrocknjpatel, ok thx :)08:27
davidcalleHi all08:34
andyrockdavidcalle, hi :) so long time...08:44
davidcalleandyrock, yep, holidays ;)08:50
andyrockdavidcalle, i hope you had fun... :)08:51
davidcalleandyrock, a lot, what about you?08:51
andyrockdavidcalle, no holidays :( i've to study to pass university entrance test08:52
davidcalleandyrock, good luck ;)08:54
andyrockdavidcalle, i have no desire to study08:55
andyrock--08:55
andyrock-.-08:55
andyrockdavidcalle, btw have you applied for uds-p?08:55
davidcalleandyrock, thanks for reminding me!08:57
andyrockdavidcalle, yw :)08:58
htorqueMacSlow: interesting, i'm getting the fade bug on both systems with A3 live09:14
MacSlowhtorque, I'm on my nvidia system here atm... haven't updated my intel/laptop yet09:15
MacSlowhtorque, since I'm busy with other stuff testing this myself will probably have to wait for the weekend09:15
htorqueMacSlow: i can switch my laptop to nvidia, will give it a try09:15
htorqueMacSlow: bad news, it's also happening with nouveau here09:23
MacSlowhtorque, hm.09:24
MacSlowhtorque, I'm with the binary driver09:24
MacSlowhtorque, I'll see during the weekend what my tests will bring up09:24
htorqueok, but you are not seeing it with the blobl?09:25
htorqueblob09:25
sbteHi, I was just asked to sign the Canonical contributor agreement. Do I really have to print it and scan it back, or can i just type it out and copy my signature in?09:32
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Andy80hi11:24
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om26eri am wondering when will be the new unity hit archives?13:04
ephanyou mean, when will a new unity version come out?13:05
ephanor maybe I'm wrong13:05
om26erephan, it released 10hours ago, just not packages13:06
om26er*packaged13:06
ephan4.8.0?13:06
ephanyap, I see in Launchpad now13:07
om26er;)13:07
ephanOh cool my change was just in time to be included in this version :)13:08
MrChrisDruifWhat change?13:09
ephana bitesize bug fix13:10
ephan#82335313:10
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jjardonHi, Is there any difference between Unity and Unity 2D regarding indicators stuff?15:25
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om26erhow can i have unity-2d dash always fullscreen?15:46
om26erKaleo, Hi ^^15:46
apware we expecting middle mouse button to no longer launch a second instance of an app ???15:48
Kaleoom26er: hmmm, I don't think there is such an option15:51
om26erapw, fixed in trunk ;)15:51
om26erapw, 4.8.0 exactly15:51
apwom26er, when will that hit the archive ?15:51
om26erKaleo, oh, thanks, i will report a feature request then ;)15:51
om26erapw, in a few hours I guess15:52
om26er(or soon)15:52
Kaleoom26er: oki15:54
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om26eroh unity build failed :/19:12
om26eroh didrocks dont leave us like that :)19:13
om26erhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/4.8.0-0ubuntu1/+build/267896319:13
lucazadeom26er bug 818086 is not completely fixed, indicator-power icon is really blurry and badly scaled19:22
ubot5Launchpad bug 818086 in unity-2d (Ubuntu) "Indicator-power not visible in Unity-2D" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81808619:22
om26erlucazade, seems fine to me19:23
om26erhere i am using 2d for now19:23
lucazadeom26er, here no, do you want a sshot?19:23
om26erlucazade, yes sure then i'll compare it with mine19:23
om26ermaybe something with my eyes ;)19:23
lucazadeom26er ok .. lol19:24
lucazadeom26er going to reboot in oneiric to make a sshot..19:25
om26erokay i am there lucazade19:25
om26eralways and truly yours :p19:26
lucazadeom26er http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338581/varie/menu.png   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338581/varie/panel.png19:35
lucazadeif you see the borders of battery icons are not well defined, quite blurry19:36
om26erlucazade, its notable,19:36
lucazadeom26er the icon is not used at its native res19:36
om26eryes I see the problem as well19:36
om26erlucazade, a new bug maybe19:36
om26eri mean report a new bug19:36
lucazadeom26er ok... also when the battery is fully charged the icon used (power cord) is from hicolor and not from humanity/mono19:37
om26erlucazade, i only get that icon for a second when i disconnect the charger19:38
om26erthis might be a bug in indicator19:38
lucazadeom26er ok probably19:38
lucazadeom26er i'll open a new bug19:38
* om26er subscribed to unity-2d today :D19:39
om26erdidrocks, unity uplaod failed to build on it already ? :)19:42
om26ernever mind, you uploaded compiz already for the fix, just saw19:45
didrocksom26er: indeed ;) dinner time now and then retry time19:47
didrocksand same for unity-2d, because of unity not being there :)19:47
om26eroh great i'll watch the wire now :p19:48
jcastrodavidcalle: around?20:11
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jcastroom26er: it's building now20:31
om26erjcastro, yaaay :)20:31
om26er64bit build failed again :(20:34
jcastrohttps://twitter.com/#!/ml2mst/status/10175342207160729621:06
jcastroI recommend all unity people check this out: ^^^^21:06
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thumperjcastro: morning21:14
jcastroheya thumpa21:14
davidcallejcastro, hi21:31
jcastrohey fyi, the new lens stuff landed today21:32
jcastrohttps://code.launchpad.net/~njpatel/unity-lens-files/unity-lens-files/+merge/7047521:32
jcastrothis might be useful to you21:32
davidcalleThanks, I'm waiting for the amd64 unity package, constantly refreshing the builder's page ;-)21:33
jcastroyeah me too, heh21:33
davidcalleDing, it's cooked!21:34
jcastrowoo!21:34
thumperheh21:34
* thumper recompiles trunk21:35
om26erdavidcalle, hahah me too lol21:35
davidcalleSegfault...21:45
davidcalleI'm certainly missing a package :)21:45
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Andy80jcastro: hey :)21:51
jcastrohi!21:51
davidcalleWell, it's working pretty well. :)21:52
Andy80the new Unity/Unity-2D really rocks! Is it usable only on Oneiric or even on Natty (using daily builds) ?21:53
jcastrowell, the guys around me are using it on oneiric and it seems awesome21:53
jcastroI am waiting to update, connection here is slow21:53
nhainesI'm fond of the new unity-greeter, although I'm curious what the plans for the panel are.  :)21:54
Andy80I really would like to use it on Natty, I prefer not upgrading to Oneiric yet, I need a quite stable distro on my main PC...21:54
nhainesAndy80: then best not to upgrade to an unstable shell for your distro.21:55
Andy80nhaines: the desktop itself would not be a problem... I can always use the "classic" session as fallback if something is wrong21:56
nhainesAndy80: well, that's riskier than I would prefer.  But at least you've thought it through--that's what counts!  :)21:56
Andy80at the moment for example I'm using classic session, because Google Music uploader doesn't work in Unity :\ the icon is not displayed in the notify area...21:57
nhainesAndy80: although I usually don't recommend it (in general), you could add the Google Music application to the system-tray whitelist.21:58
nhainesAlthough I thought that wasn't supposed to work in Ubuntu Classic either in natty.21:59
Andy80nhaines: I tried (using the same workaround people used for Dropbox) but it doesn't work anyway21:59
nhainesAndy80: Ow, too bad.21:59
Andy80nhaines: why it should not work on Natty with calssic session?21:59
Andy80Google realeased a Linux version... I'm not using the .exe with wine :P22:00
nhainesAndy80: Canonical is trying to do away with it entirely, that's why.22:00
Andy80ahhh ok22:00
nhainesIronically the .exe with Wine would probably work because Wine is whitelisted!  hehe22:00
Andy80well... good luck with Skype then ;)22:00
nhainesThat's whitelisted too, but I don't know what Microsoft plans for future versions anyway.22:00
Andy80OMG Microsoft! (no... not another online magazine ;) )22:01
Andy80I didn't remember they bought it -.-22:01
Andy80anyway.... I think there are still lot of legacy applications out there that cannot be patched for libnotify... so we should not drop old tray support too soon22:02
nhainesWell, they announced it over 18 months ago...  Once support is dropped completely (it's already only allowing three apps), any apps being developed will be patched.22:03
nhainesThat's the rationale anyway.  :)22:03
jcastrowhen I've used the google thing it's used an indicator22:03
Andy80jcastro: it didn't work for me :\ I can test it again if you want...22:05
jcastroit's working for me right now22:05
Andy80jcastro: tested Google Music Uploader on another PC (my netbook) running Ubuntu Natty and the icon is not displayed in notify area... so I confirm the bug for me22:49
Andy80it's running (I see it in System Monitor, it's uploading songs but it's not visible in the Unity launcher nor in the notify area)22:53
abc123_hello?22:55
abc123_when I update to Ubuntu 11.10 in the future and be forced to use Unity. Would I be able to use system tray menus, and keep program menus in their respective window?22:57
abc123_Also, in Ubuntu 11.10, will I be allowed to disable the overlay scrollbar?22:58
nhainesabc123_: no to all of these, although you can uninstall the overlay scrollbar libraries and everything will revert to a classic toolbar.22:59
abc123_well, right now I use natty, and I uninstalled overlay scrollbar to get back the classic23:00
nhainesYou aren't forced to use Unity in Ubuntu 11.10, though.  You can install GNOME Shell, and you can choose other desktop environments as well.23:00
abc123_will that hold true for oneric?23:00
nhainesI can't think of any reason it wouldn't.23:00
abc123_so...it is still possible to use classic mode in 11.10? I read that the classic mode won't ship with 11.1023:01
nhainesIt won't ship with 11.10.  I do not know if it will be installable.  Probably your best bet would be to install GNOME Shell and then enable "fallback mode", I think it's called.23:03
abc123_I see23:03
nhainesSorry, if my oneiric virtual machines were more stable I would test it for you, but I'm setting them up fresh again at the moment.23:03
abc123_it's ok23:03
nhainesYou might want to try a virtual machine as well.  :)23:04
abc123_so there are no magic configuration where I can keep 1) system menus at the top panel, 2)program menus inside their own window?23:04
abc123_cool :)23:04
nhainesRight.  There might be something community-based that comes along later, but nothing as easy as a single click.23:05
abc123_:( I am rather disappointed that people who like the classic interface aren't being addressed23:06
RAOFThe gnome fallback session is available, which will give you something pretty similar to GNOME 2.23:12
RAOFAt least until it stops working, because too few people care about it :)23:12
jbichagnome-session-fallback works in Oneiric, it just doesn't have "indicator" status menus & the Ambiance theme doesn't look right there23:19

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