[07:03] <oSoMoN> good morning
[07:07] <MacSlow> ola
[08:08] <andyrock> good morning
[08:09] <njpatel> hey andyrock
[08:09] <andyrock> hey njpatel, nice work yesterday
[08:10] <njpatel> andyrock, thanks, still lots to do, though, didn't have time to polish
[08:12] <andyrock> njpatel, i don't understand why remove bfb button from the panel...
[08:13] <njpatel> andyrock, because it's on the launcher now
[08:14] <andyrock> njpatel, i know (so i don't understand why move launcher from panel to launcher :)
[08:14] <andyrock> *to move
[08:14] <andyrock> *first launcher->bfb
[08:14] <njpatel> andyrock, heh, it was because people couldn't find the BFB in testing all the time, or they didn't know it was clickable
[08:15] <njpatel> launcher icon is larger and people understood it was special and clickable
[08:15] <andyrock> njpatel, ah ok :)
[08:19] <andyrock> njpatel, do you know if it is possible (and after all if it is legal) calling nux EnableInputWindow(true/false, "bla bla") more and more time?
[08:19] <andyrock> on a same nux::BaseWindow...
[08:21] <njpatel> andyrock, yep, it only creates it once internally
[08:21] <htorque> MacSlow: about bug 821719 - i can only reproduce this with an intel hd graphics 3000 system, not with intel hd graphics 2000 in my laptop - could this be a driver issue?
[08:22] <MacSlow> htorque, oh... very odd :)
[08:22] <MacSlow> htorque, something as simple as opacity being a driver issue... but well... it's intel... you never know ;)
[08:23] <andyrock> njpatel, and i have to call enableinputwindow(false, "bla bla") or nux::showindow(false) will do it for me?
[08:23] <MacSlow> htorque, but since this is your observation and you have it working correctly on the other system... it's a clear indicator that that's a driver bug
[08:24] <MacSlow> htorque, re-file it against the driver then I'd say
[08:24] <htorque> MacSlow: or that my install is somehow borked ;-) i will do an A3 installation on an external drive, just to be sure.
[08:24] <MacSlow> htorque, ok
[08:24] <htorque> or probably a live cd should do
[08:27] <njpatel> andyrock, i just call EnableInputWindow(true/false....   see DashController.cpp in trunk
[08:27] <andyrock> njpatel, ok thx :)
[08:34] <davidcalle> Hi all
[08:44] <andyrock> davidcalle, hi :) so long time...
[08:50] <davidcalle> andyrock, yep, holidays ;)
[08:51] <andyrock> davidcalle, i hope you had fun... :)
[08:51] <davidcalle> andyrock, a lot, what about you?
[08:52] <andyrock> davidcalle, no holidays :( i've to study to pass university entrance test
[08:54] <davidcalle> andyrock, good luck ;)
[08:55] <andyrock> davidcalle, i have no desire to study
[08:55] <andyrock> --
[08:55] <andyrock> -.-
[08:55] <andyrock> davidcalle, btw have you applied for uds-p?
[08:57] <davidcalle> andyrock, thanks for reminding me!
[08:58] <andyrock> davidcalle, yw :)
[09:14] <htorque> MacSlow: interesting, i'm getting the fade bug on both systems with A3 live
[09:15] <MacSlow> htorque, I'm on my nvidia system here atm... haven't updated my intel/laptop yet
[09:15] <MacSlow> htorque, since I'm busy with other stuff testing this myself will probably have to wait for the weekend
[09:15] <htorque> MacSlow: i can switch my laptop to nvidia, will give it a try
[09:23] <htorque> MacSlow: bad news, it's also happening with nouveau here
[09:24] <MacSlow> htorque, hm.
[09:24] <MacSlow> htorque, I'm with the binary driver
[09:24] <MacSlow> htorque, I'll see during the weekend what my tests will bring up
[09:25] <htorque> ok, but you are not seeing it with the blobl?
[09:25] <htorque> blob
[09:32] <sbte> Hi, I was just asked to sign the Canonical contributor agreement. Do I really have to print it and scan it back, or can i just type it out and copy my signature in?
[11:24] <Andy80> hi
[13:04] <om26er> i am wondering when will be the new unity hit archives?
[13:05] <ephan> you mean, when will a new unity version come out?
[13:05] <ephan> or maybe I'm wrong
[13:06] <om26er> ephan, it released 10hours ago, just not packages
[13:06] <om26er> *packaged
[13:06] <ephan> 4.8.0?
[13:07] <ephan> yap, I see in Launchpad now
[13:07] <om26er> ;)
[13:08] <ephan> Oh cool my change was just in time to be included in this version :)
[13:09] <MrChrisDruif> What change?
[13:10] <ephan> a bitesize bug fix
[13:10] <ephan> #823353
[15:25] <jjardon> Hi, Is there any difference between Unity and Unity 2D regarding indicators stuff?
[15:46] <om26er> how can i have unity-2d dash always fullscreen?
[15:46] <om26er> Kaleo, Hi ^^
[15:48] <apw> are we expecting middle mouse button to no longer launch a second instance of an app ???
[15:51] <Kaleo> om26er: hmmm, I don't think there is such an option
[15:51] <om26er> apw, fixed in trunk ;)
[15:51] <om26er> apw, 4.8.0 exactly
[15:51] <apw> om26er, when will that hit the archive ?
[15:51] <om26er> Kaleo, oh, thanks, i will report a feature request then ;)
[15:52] <om26er> apw, in a few hours I guess
[15:52] <om26er> (or soon)
[15:54] <Kaleo> om26er: oki
[19:12] <om26er> oh unity build failed :/
[19:13] <om26er> oh didrocks dont leave us like that :)
[19:13] <om26er> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/4.8.0-0ubuntu1/+build/2678963
[19:22] <lucazade> om26er bug 818086 is not completely fixed, indicator-power icon is really blurry and badly scaled
[19:23] <om26er> lucazade, seems fine to me
[19:23] <om26er> here i am using 2d for now
[19:23] <lucazade> om26er, here no, do you want a sshot?
[19:23] <om26er> lucazade, yes sure then i'll compare it with mine
[19:23] <om26er> maybe something with my eyes ;)
[19:24] <lucazade> om26er ok .. lol
[19:25] <lucazade> om26er going to reboot in oneiric to make a sshot..
[19:25] <om26er> okay i am there lucazade
[19:26] <om26er> always and truly yours :p
[19:35] <lucazade> om26er http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338581/varie/menu.png   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1338581/varie/panel.png
[19:36] <lucazade> if you see the borders of battery icons are not well defined, quite blurry
[19:36] <om26er> lucazade, its notable,
[19:36] <lucazade> om26er the icon is not used at its native res
[19:36] <om26er> yes I see the problem as well
[19:36] <om26er> lucazade, a new bug maybe
[19:36] <om26er> i mean report a new bug
[19:37] <lucazade> om26er ok... also when the battery is fully charged the icon used (power cord) is from hicolor and not from humanity/mono
[19:38] <om26er> lucazade, i only get that icon for a second when i disconnect the charger
[19:38] <om26er> this might be a bug in indicator
[19:38] <lucazade> om26er ok probably
[19:38] <lucazade> om26er i'll open a new bug
[19:39]  * om26er subscribed to unity-2d today :D
[19:42] <om26er> didrocks, unity uplaod failed to build on it already ? :)
[19:45] <om26er> never mind, you uploaded compiz already for the fix, just saw
[19:47] <didrocks> om26er: indeed ;) dinner time now and then retry time
[19:47] <didrocks> and same for unity-2d, because of unity not being there :)
[19:48] <om26er> oh great i'll watch the wire now :p
[20:11] <jcastro> davidcalle: around?
[20:31] <jcastro> om26er: it's building now
[20:31] <om26er> jcastro, yaaay :)
[20:34] <om26er> 64bit build failed again :(
[21:06] <jcastro> https://twitter.com/#!/ml2mst/status/101753422071607296
[21:06] <jcastro> I recommend all unity people check this out: ^^^^
[21:14] <thumper> jcastro: morning
[21:14] <jcastro> heya thumpa
[21:31] <davidcalle> jcastro, hi
[21:32] <jcastro> hey fyi, the new lens stuff landed today
[21:32] <jcastro> https://code.launchpad.net/~njpatel/unity-lens-files/unity-lens-files/+merge/70475
[21:32] <jcastro> this might be useful to you
[21:33] <davidcalle> Thanks, I'm waiting for the amd64 unity package, constantly refreshing the builder's page ;-)
[21:33] <jcastro> yeah me too, heh
[21:34] <davidcalle> Ding, it's cooked!
[21:34] <jcastro> woo!
[21:34] <thumper> heh
[21:35]  * thumper recompiles trunk
[21:35] <om26er> davidcalle, hahah me too lol
[21:45] <davidcalle> Segfault...
[21:45] <davidcalle> I'm certainly missing a package :)
[21:51] <Andy80> jcastro: hey :)
[21:51] <jcastro> hi!
[21:52] <davidcalle> Well, it's working pretty well. :)
[21:53] <Andy80> the new Unity/Unity-2D really rocks! Is it usable only on Oneiric or even on Natty (using daily builds) ?
[21:53] <jcastro> well, the guys around me are using it on oneiric and it seems awesome
[21:53] <jcastro> I am waiting to update, connection here is slow
[21:54] <nhaines> I'm fond of the new unity-greeter, although I'm curious what the plans for the panel are.  :)
[21:54] <Andy80> I really would like to use it on Natty, I prefer not upgrading to Oneiric yet, I need a quite stable distro on my main PC...
[21:55] <nhaines> Andy80: then best not to upgrade to an unstable shell for your distro.
[21:56] <Andy80> nhaines: the desktop itself would not be a problem... I can always use the "classic" session as fallback if something is wrong
[21:56] <nhaines> Andy80: well, that's riskier than I would prefer.  But at least you've thought it through--that's what counts!  :)
[21:57] <Andy80> at the moment for example I'm using classic session, because Google Music uploader doesn't work in Unity :\ the icon is not displayed in the notify area...
[21:58] <nhaines> Andy80: although I usually don't recommend it (in general), you could add the Google Music application to the system-tray whitelist.
[21:59] <nhaines> Although I thought that wasn't supposed to work in Ubuntu Classic either in natty.
[21:59] <Andy80> nhaines: I tried (using the same workaround people used for Dropbox) but it doesn't work anyway
[21:59] <nhaines> Andy80: Ow, too bad.
[21:59] <Andy80> nhaines: why it should not work on Natty with calssic session?
[22:00] <Andy80> Google realeased a Linux version... I'm not using the .exe with wine :P
[22:00] <nhaines> Andy80: Canonical is trying to do away with it entirely, that's why.
[22:00] <Andy80> ahhh ok
[22:00] <nhaines> Ironically the .exe with Wine would probably work because Wine is whitelisted!  hehe
[22:00] <Andy80> well... good luck with Skype then ;)
[22:00] <nhaines> That's whitelisted too, but I don't know what Microsoft plans for future versions anyway.
[22:01] <Andy80> OMG Microsoft! (no... not another online magazine ;) )
[22:01] <Andy80> I didn't remember they bought it -.-
[22:02] <Andy80> anyway.... I think there are still lot of legacy applications out there that cannot be patched for libnotify... so we should not drop old tray support too soon
[22:03] <nhaines> Well, they announced it over 18 months ago...  Once support is dropped completely (it's already only allowing three apps), any apps being developed will be patched.
[22:03] <nhaines> That's the rationale anyway.  :)
[22:03] <jcastro> when I've used the google thing it's used an indicator
[22:05] <Andy80> jcastro: it didn't work for me :\ I can test it again if you want...
[22:05] <jcastro> it's working for me right now
[22:49] <Andy80> jcastro: tested Google Music Uploader on another PC (my netbook) running Ubuntu Natty and the icon is not displayed in notify area... so I confirm the bug for me
[22:53] <Andy80> it's running (I see it in System Monitor, it's uploading songs but it's not visible in the Unity launcher nor in the notify area)
[22:55] <abc123_> hello?
[22:57] <abc123_> when I update to Ubuntu 11.10 in the future and be forced to use Unity. Would I be able to use system tray menus, and keep program menus in their respective window?
[22:58] <abc123_> Also, in Ubuntu 11.10, will I be allowed to disable the overlay scrollbar?
[22:59] <nhaines> abc123_: no to all of these, although you can uninstall the overlay scrollbar libraries and everything will revert to a classic toolbar.
[23:00] <abc123_> well, right now I use natty, and I uninstalled overlay scrollbar to get back the classic
[23:00] <nhaines> You aren't forced to use Unity in Ubuntu 11.10, though.  You can install GNOME Shell, and you can choose other desktop environments as well.
[23:00] <abc123_> will that hold true for oneric?
[23:00] <nhaines> I can't think of any reason it wouldn't.
[23:01] <abc123_> so...it is still possible to use classic mode in 11.10? I read that the classic mode won't ship with 11.10
[23:03] <nhaines> It won't ship with 11.10.  I do not know if it will be installable.  Probably your best bet would be to install GNOME Shell and then enable "fallback mode", I think it's called.
[23:03] <abc123_> I see
[23:03] <nhaines> Sorry, if my oneiric virtual machines were more stable I would test it for you, but I'm setting them up fresh again at the moment.
[23:03] <abc123_> it's ok
[23:04] <nhaines> You might want to try a virtual machine as well.  :)
[23:04] <abc123_> so there are no magic configuration where I can keep 1) system menus at the top panel, 2)program menus inside their own window?
[23:04] <abc123_> cool :)
[23:05] <nhaines> Right.  There might be something community-based that comes along later, but nothing as easy as a single click.
[23:06] <abc123_> :( I am rather disappointed that people who like the classic interface aren't being addressed
[23:12] <RAOF> The gnome fallback session is available, which will give you something pretty similar to GNOME 2.
[23:12] <RAOF> At least until it stops working, because too few people care about it :)
[23:19] <jbicha> gnome-session-fallback works in Oneiric, it just doesn't have "indicator" status menus & the Ambiance theme doesn't look right there