| === Dan`ka is now known as Dan`ka|sleep | ||
| dslogger | Quintasan: there is some insanely buggness with it, but it works once per boot | 01:43 |
|---|---|---|
| dslogger | ^^ | 01:43 |
| ScottK | DarkwingDuck: Except for kdepim, I've found it really stable. | 01:46 |
| dslogger | ScottK: kubuntu tablety stuff is little effort for tech preview | 01:48 |
| ScottK | dslogger: You know where to go for your freeze exception, right? | 01:48 |
| dslogger | bump the font and ui element size a bit + deploy maliit | 01:48 |
| dslogger | ScottK: yep :P | 01:48 |
| rbelem | dslogger, ping | 01:51 |
| dslogger | rbelem: yo | 02:01 |
| dslogger | actually | 02:01 |
| dslogger | -> steps out for a bit | 02:01 |
| dslogger | rbelem: so, sup? | 02:07 |
| dslogger | because I am about to go to bed | 02:07 |
| dslogger | its 4 here :P | 02:07 |
| rbelem | :-D | 02:08 |
| rbelem | dslogger, i would ask if you had time time to take a look at those branches | 02:09 |
| dslogger | rbelem: not before next week supposedly, but perhaps tomorrow.... I scored an exopc slate so I should look at it soonish anyway | 02:10 |
| dslogger | also I am not quite sure we will be able to do production quality for kubuntu mobile | 02:10 |
| dslogger | paritcularly because I am reather busy with kdemultimedia/phonon stuff | 02:10 |
| dslogger | meh, plasma-mobile | 02:11 |
| dslogger | only crashes for me with active-development/4.7 of libs and runtime :S | 02:11 |
| * dslogger goes to bed | 02:11 | |
| dslogger | nini | 02:11 |
| rbelem | dslogger, good night | 02:11 |
| rbelem | dslogger, i will ping you tomorrow | 02:12 |
| rbelem | dslogger, i will dedicate at least one hour during week days and half day on saturday and sunday | 02:15 |
| DarkwingDuck | ScottK: I have been needing to redo my partitions tables and reinstall for a bit... Was going to grab a daily build and run it as a daily driver if it was stable enough. | 03:23 |
| ScottK | DarkwingDuck: Don't use the daily ISO. Use the Alpha 3 ISO to install and then update. | 03:24 |
| * DarkwingDuck nods | 03:24 | |
| DarkwingDuck | Will do. | 03:24 |
| DarkwingDuck | Prolly do it late tonight or tomorrow. | 03:25 |
| DarkwingDuck | What kernal are we using for Oneiric? | 05:03 |
| DarkwingDuck | rather, let me ask if anyone has tried 3.0 on Ubuntu/Debian | 05:04 |
| PiotrN | Hello, after yestardays update of flash, it's not working. I cant find libflashplugin.so anywhere (64bit here), installed flash 11 b2 from adobe for now | 07:04 |
| PiotrN | that happend on 2 separate installs of kubuntu 11.04 | 07:04 |
| PiotrN | reinstall of flashinstaller has not helped | 07:05 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: PING | 09:22 |
| markey_nokialyze | hey guys | 09:32 |
| markey_nokialyze | after upgrade to 11.04, Chromium tells me that my Flash player is too old | 09:32 |
| markey_nokialyze | used to work fine before | 09:32 |
| markey_nokialyze | any ideas? | 09:32 |
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| markey_nokialyze | PiotrN: ah yes, I also have Flash issues here (see above) | 09:36 |
| markey_nokialyze | flashplugin-nonfree is installed | 09:37 |
| markey_nokialyze | but not found by chrome | 09:37 |
| yofel | ScottK: I was working on digikam but didn't get far, so I'll take a look at _Groo_'s packages | 09:40 |
| Quintasan | markey_nokialyze, PiotrN: It seems like flash update broke something | 09:42 |
| markey_nokialyze | Quintasan: for a stable distro release that's really bad... | 09:43 |
| markey_nokialyze | some more testing would be nice | 09:43 |
| Quintasan | flashplugin-nonfree (10.3.183.4ubuntu0.11.04.1) natty-security | 09:43 |
| PiotrN | Quintasan: yup, that's why we mentioned it, it seems like there is a file missing or not fetched by the installer | 09:43 |
| PiotrN | in /var/cache/flash-installer there is a wgetrc | 09:44 |
| markey_nokialyze | actually the problem started after upgrading to KDE 4.7 | 09:44 |
| PiotrN | like i said, there is a flash 11 b2 on adobe's site, that works for both 32 and 64 bit, so the alternative is quite painless | 09:44 |
| markey_nokialyze | with 4.6 on Kubuntu 11.04 it worked | 09:44 |
| Quintasan | sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-installer | 09:45 |
| Quintasan | it downloads it here | 09:45 |
| markey_nokialyze | PiotrN: is it stable? works with Chromium? has .deb package? | 09:45 |
| markey_nokialyze | Quintasan: downloads, yes | 09:45 |
| markey_nokialyze | but then? | 09:45 |
| PiotrN | markey_nokialyze: no .deb package | 09:45 |
| Quintasan | [flashplugin-installer]% ls (quintasan@nightwalker:..shplugin-installer) | 09:45 |
| Quintasan | libflashplayer.so | 09:45 |
| markey_nokialyze | what do I have to do? | 09:45 |
| Quintasan | /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer | 09:45 |
| PiotrN | Quintasan: it failed in here, my dir is empty | 09:45 |
| Quintasan | markey_nokialyze: please try sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-installer once again | 09:46 |
| markey_nokialyze | ok | 09:46 |
| Quintasan | PiotrN: I'm not sure why does it happen | 09:46 |
| Quintasan | PiotrN: Can you pastebin the wgetrc? | 09:46 |
| markey_nokialyze | Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used. | 09:47 |
| markey_nokialyze | E: I wasn't able to locate file for the flashplugin-installer package. This might mean you need to manually fix this package. | 09:47 |
| Quintasan | Aha | 09:47 |
| PiotrN | Quintasan: moment, now it's doing something (had a permission issue after my manual install) | 09:47 |
| Quintasan | sudo aptitude install flashplugin-installer | 09:47 |
| Quintasan | markey_nokialyze: ^ | 09:47 |
| markey_nokialyze | ok so far | 09:47 |
| Quintasan | PiotrN: Strangely enough, I don't have that file | 09:47 |
| markey_nokialyze | let's see :) | 09:47 |
| PiotrN | Quintasan: after the reinstall, i dont have it either... someone fiexed the package since yesterday ? | 09:48 |
| Quintasan | PiotrN: Most likley | 09:48 |
| markey_nokialyze | at home I have 100 Mbit cable. the 200kb/s in the hotel feel awkward once you get used to it :) | 09:49 |
| PiotrN | Quintasan: thank's, statying with 11 b2 anyways, but it will be easier for my friend to fix the issue | 09:49 |
| Quintasan | PiotrN: You're welcome | 09:50 |
| yofel | Quintasan: IMO my launchpad pic looks more like me... well, maybe since my hair was pretty flat after wearing a cap all day, should've kept it on. | 09:50 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Now that you mention it :) | 09:50 |
| markey_nokialyze | Quintasan: so it seems that flashplugin might have got uninstalled by the KDE upgrade. is this possible? | 09:50 |
| Quintasan | what, where is my LP pic | 09:50 |
| Quintasan | markey_nokialyze: Not sure if thats possible | 09:50 |
| Quintasan | I do not think any of our packages depend on flash | 09:51 |
| markey_nokialyze | ok tbh, as this is my work computer, it might not have been installed before. PEBCAC | 09:51 |
| markey_nokialyze | :) | 09:51 |
| markey_nokialyze | I will exchange this T410 for a X201, it's far too heavy for carrying in a backpack | 09:52 |
| markey_nokialyze | noticed that at DS | 09:52 |
| * Quintasan needs a laptop | 09:52 | |
| Quintasan | yofel: https://launchpad.net/~quintasan | 09:52 |
| markey_nokialyze | also the build quality is sub standard for a thinkpad | 09:52 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Now, that's how I really look like ;) | 09:52 |
| yofel | lol | 09:52 |
| markey_nokialyze | Quintasan: my GF just ordered a ThinkPad X220 with SSD, the machine is amazing. 1.5 kg weight, core i7, 8 hours battery life, and you can get it with IPS display for a little extra | 09:53 |
| Quintasan | markey_nokialyze: Tell me how much for that | 09:53 |
| markey_nokialyze | the device is a bit costly, but it will last a good for 4 years | 09:53 |
| markey_nokialyze | sec | 09:53 |
| PiotrN | i bet about 6k $ | 09:53 |
| markey_nokialyze | naah | 09:53 |
| markey_nokialyze | about $1600 | 09:53 |
| Quintasan | markey_nokialyze: I'm your average (that implies being poor) high school student :P | 09:53 |
| Quintasan | LOL | 09:54 |
| * Quintasan thinks he never had that much in Polish zloty | 09:54 | |
| PiotrN | 1.6k ?, that's too cheap for thinkpad with ssd | 09:54 |
| markey_nokialyze | Quintasan: let me forward you my ordering mail. if you want SSD from Intel, it's $360 extra | 09:54 |
| markey_nokialyze | Quintasan: email address? | 09:54 |
| markey_nokialyze | 1.9 with SSD | 09:54 |
| Quintasan | markey_nokialyze: quintasan@kubuntu.org | 09:54 |
| markey_nokialyze | still good bang for the buck | 09:54 |
| * Quintasan needs to get a paid job | 09:55 | |
| markey_nokialyze | the only other lappy with IPS display is a MacBook, but they are far more expensive, and huge | 09:55 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: If you need help with contour then let me know | 09:55 |
| markey_nokialyze | Quintasan: u got mail | 09:56 |
| Quintasan | >Windows 7 | 09:56 |
| Quintasan | Oh how long it would last when I would get this laptop | 09:56 |
| Quintasan | Like | 09:56 |
| Quintasan | 10 seconds? | 09:56 |
| Quintasan | :D | 09:56 |
| Quintasan | This looks totally interesting, too bad I don't even have half of the price :S | 09:57 |
| markey_nokialyze | Quintasan: http://notebooks.com/2011/03/23/lenovo-thinkpad-x220-review/ | 09:58 |
| markey_nokialyze | non-plus-ultra | 09:58 |
| markey_nokialyze | worth skipping some other expenses for | 09:58 |
| markey_nokialyze | or asking Canonical for some sponsoring | 09:58 |
| markey_nokialyze | Nokia gives us all the hardware we need, they are not skimpy | 09:59 |
| markey_nokialyze | good people need good hardware | 09:59 |
| markey_nokialyze | I have two ThinkPads, a 8-core workstation and two HP IPS displays from work, one ThinkPad I use at home for VPN Intranet excess | 10:00 |
| markey_nokialyze | access | 10:00 |
| markey_nokialyze | the least Shuttleworth could do is sponsoring developers some hardware, if he doesn't pay you anyway | 10:01 |
| yofel | hm, putting together a cool x220 on the lenovo website ends at ~1700$ - not something I currently have. But I don't usually carry my t510 around too much | 10:04 |
| * yofel wonders if one could get a windows refund | 10:05 | |
| Quintasan | markey_nokialyze: I could try that but I don't think it works that way :) | 10:06 |
| markey_nokialyze | Quintasan: there was a panel discussion with Shuttleworth at DS. basically he is the last person on earth who wants Copyright Assignment for FOSS | 10:07 |
| markey_nokialyze | it's not even legal in the EU | 10:07 |
| markey_nokialyze | he would have to move his HQ to the US | 10:07 |
| markey_nokialyze | everyone disagreed with him, even Nokia now does away with Assignment for Qt | 10:07 |
| markey_nokialyze | the guy is, sorry to say, a bit of an asshole. what started as a great company is running against the wall quickly | 10:08 |
| markey_nokialyze | most of our KDE devs are now investing in OpenSUSE, they actually give back to KDE a lot | 10:08 |
| Quintasan | We don't give anything? :< | 10:09 |
| * Quintasan thought we had problems making people kubuntu-members since most of us work upstream | 10:09 | |
| markey_nokialyze | I still believe in Kubuntu because of the awesome dev community, but you are not being paid for your efforts | 10:09 |
| markey_nokialyze | I suggested that KDE could take the project over, but then the OpenSUSE folks got angry (understandably) | 10:10 |
| markey_nokialyze | dslogger has invested so much work into Canonical, it's not even funny. I might be able to make him an attractive job offer, that actually rewards him for his work. we'll see ;) | 10:11 |
| markey_nokialyze | then he would still be able to contribute to Kubuntu, but with proper funding | 10:12 |
| Quintasan | yofel: care to see what Onepamopa it talking about in #kubuntu? | 10:12 |
| yofel | looking | 10:12 |
| Quintasan | Can't see why we have to provided support for notsupported backend | 10:12 |
| markey_nokialyze | yofel: you are not being paid anything for your work in Kubuntu, right? | 10:12 |
| yofel | markey_nokialyze: nope :/ | 10:13 |
| markey_nokialyze | not cool. | 10:13 |
| markey_nokialyze | why put up with it... be more vocal | 10:13 |
| markey_nokialyze | Quintasan: giving back as in, paying KDE developers. OpenSUSE pays about 5 good KDE hackers, full-time. among them the president of the KDE e.V. | 10:16 |
| Quintasan | Oh, like that | 10:18 |
| * Quintasan tries kmail | 10:24 | |
| Quintasan | yofel: I'm bad at handling people with attitude like this (#kubuntu) | 10:25 |
| Quintasan | I would first smash a hammer in their head to make em cool down a little bit before blaming us for doing soemthing the wrong way :S | 10:25 |
| yofel | uh well, they come and go | 10:26 |
| Quintasan | s/something/everything | 10:26 |
| Quintasan | yofel: How do we solve Couldn't fetch resources collection in KMail? :/ | 10:29 |
| yofel | what does that even mean? | 10:30 |
| Quintasan | It pops right when I start KMail and it closes after that :D | 10:30 |
| yofel | uh, then that's akonadi I guess ^^ | 10:31 |
| Quintasan | yofel: in which repo do we have the 4.7 PIM? | 10:32 |
| yofel | natty: experimental, oneiric: archive | 10:34 |
| * Quintasan adds and tries | 10:35 | |
| steveire | Riddell: I'd like to go to UDS but the timing is a bit bad for me. I'll see closer to the dealine | 10:37 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Any idea how does one do push IMAP? | 10:39 |
| yofel | not from kmail | 10:39 |
| debfx | markey_nokialyze: canonical doesn't require copyright assignment for their projects anymore | 10:39 |
| yofel | at least I have no idea if it's doable | 10:39 |
| markey_nokialyze | debfx: have you seen his panel discussion? | 10:39 |
| yofel | debfx: Mark was rather enthusiastic about finding arguments for it though | 10:40 |
| markey_nokialyze | it was about this very topic. with Michael Meeks | 10:40 |
| yofel | even if it looked ridicculous after a while | 10:40 |
| markey_nokialyze | Meeks was not amused | 10:40 |
| markey_nokialyze | neither was Bradley from the SFC, who was also in the panel | 10:40 |
| debfx | well then he does the opposite of what he is saying ;) | 10:40 |
| markey_nokialyze | which makes no sense | 10:41 |
| markey_nokialyze | have you heard about the radiation in space?... | 10:41 |
| markey_nokialyze | :p | 10:41 |
| shadeslayer | dslogger: gimme your tablet and i shall give you kubuntu tablet | 10:41 |
| shadeslayer | dslogger: you have too many devices anyway :P | 10:42 |
| markey_nokialyze | had a funny discussion with a guy from Intel. if we give them some N9 (they don't have any), Intel will provide Nokia with as many tablets as we want. but we have them already, and who needs a WeTab... | 10:42 |
| * markey_nokialyze will bring a Motorola Xoom tomorrow | 10:42 | |
| shadeslayer | markey_nokialyze: have fun booting kubuntu on that | 10:43 |
| markey_nokialyze | why would I want to do that? | 10:44 |
| markey_nokialyze | Android 3 rocks | 10:44 |
| shadeslayer | because android is shit | 10:44 |
| markey_nokialyze | it's optimized for tablet usage | 10:45 |
| markey_nokialyze | works great | 10:45 |
| shadeslayer | i've never used it, and the android ROM on my phone is quite shit :P | 10:45 |
| markey_nokialyze | I was shown Plasma Active with Countour at DS. sorry to say, but it looked rather lacking | 10:45 |
| markey_nokialyze | there is no way they could catch up with Google, with only 3 paid developers | 10:46 |
| shadeslayer | dslogger: btw where the hell are you> | 10:47 |
| shadeslayer | i haven't seen you here in forever | 10:47 |
| markey_nokialyze | Kubuntu has currently one paid developer, which is Riddell. agateau gets paid pretty well, but he has to do lots of GNOME hacking | 10:47 |
| markey_nokialyze | that's ridicululous | 10:48 |
| shadeslayer | markey_nokialyze: actually, Kubuntu has no paid developers right now, Riddell is on rotation :P | 10:48 |
| markey_nokialyze | Android has like 2,000 paid devs (or more) | 10:48 |
| shadeslayer | markey_nokialyze: i completely agree we need more people working on this full time | 10:49 |
| Riddell | Kubuntu also makes no money | 10:49 |
| markey_nokialyze | so, what are we going to do about it? wait and sip tea? | 10:49 |
| markey_nokialyze | Riddell: that could be changed. there is a lot of interest to roll out Kubuntu with KDE 4.7 as standard desktop in Nokia | 10:50 |
| Riddell | and opensuse doesn't pay 5 people to work on KDE alas | 10:50 |
| markey_nokialyze | it just needs some doing | 10:50 |
| markey_nokialyze | come to our site, have a talk. you will get fully sponsored for all expenses | 10:50 |
| markey_nokialyze | I can arrange this | 10:50 |
| Riddell | does Elop know about this? :) | 10:51 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 10:51 |
| markey_nokialyze | I have already achieved to roll out Kubuntu in our office | 10:51 |
| shadeslayer | markey_nokialyze++ | 10:51 |
| markey_nokialyze | Riddell: he wouldn't mind at all | 10:51 |
| shadeslayer | markey_nokialyze: so whats the issue now? | 10:52 |
| markey_nokialyze | also he's not our boss (Mobile Phones). that's someone who you also know, but I can't say the name just yet :) | 10:52 |
| markey_nokialyze | shadeslayer: issue is, it would help a lot if somone from Kubuntu came to our site, gave a talk, and advised our managers | 10:53 |
| markey_nokialyze | one day is enough | 10:53 |
| markey_nokialyze | in addition, that person can come to dinner at our place | 10:54 |
| * shadeslayer is bad at promo stuff | 10:54 | |
| Riddell | hmm, interesting | 10:54 |
| markey_nokialyze | Riddell would be my first choice | 10:54 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: do eet :P | 10:55 |
| Riddell | canonical doesn't generally do desktop rollouts though, that's done by other companies | 10:55 |
| Riddell | I'm also not a salesperson | 10:56 |
| markey_nokialyze | it's not really about rolling out. it's more about introducing the product | 10:56 |
| markey_nokialyze | we can do the administration by ourselves | 10:56 |
| Riddell | ok, sounds interesting | 10:57 |
| Riddell | and I guess if it didn't work out it would at least show where our weaknesses are | 10:58 |
| Riddell | send me an invite by e-mail and I'll work out with my manager how I can do it | 10:58 |
| markey_nokialyze | Riddell: email address please? | 11:00 |
| Riddell | jriddell @ubuntu.com | 11:00 |
| markey_nokialyze | thanks | 11:00 |
| markey_nokialyze | will talk to my boss tomorrow | 11:00 |
| Riddell | but I'm not going to wear a suit :) | 11:01 |
| markey_nokialyze | we don't have any dress code. even our upper management wears sneakers and jeans | 11:01 |
| Riddell | well aye, at nokia most of the business is done naked in the sauna anyway isn't it? you crazy Finns | 11:01 |
| alvin | Riddell: Remind me again where you are from? | 11:01 |
| markey_nokialyze | hehe | 11:01 |
| Riddell | alvin: Scotland | 11:01 |
| Quintasan | lol | 11:02 |
| Quintasan | Riddell in suit with a tie | 11:02 |
| Quintasan | :DDD | 11:02 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: I agree with you on "dslogger has too many devices" | 11:03 |
| alvin | Yep, expect a kilt (is that the correct word?) | 11:03 |
| Riddell | that's the one | 11:03 |
| shadeslayer | hahaha | 11:03 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I demand you go to UDS with a suit and take a picture with dslogger | 11:05 |
| Quintasan | That would increase the awesome | 11:05 |
| * dslogger fires up kubuntu tablet and fixes onscreenkbd | 11:06 | |
| Riddell | dslogger in a kilt? he could be very attractive | 11:06 |
| Quintasan | :D | 11:06 |
| Riddell | dslogger: yo, ok with the phonon patches? | 11:06 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: Gimmie a devices | 11:06 |
| shadeslayer | dslogger: i'm coming to steal your devices :> | 11:07 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: Also, where is my movie? | 11:07 |
| * Quintasan noticed a nice trend | 11:08 | |
| Quintasan | Noone wants anything from dslogger - the channel is either silent or there is some other discussion going on | 11:08 |
| dslogger | Riddell: yeah, colin and I concluded that a 4.5.1 release is about too happen soonish anyway | 11:08 |
| dslogger | so patches are good to ship since they are upstream anyway ^^ | 11:08 |
| Quintasan | Someone wants something from dslogger - over 9000 pings on dslogger and $(WORK) mode | 11:09 |
| dslogger | Quintasan: no video, because it breaks | 11:09 |
| dslogger | some assert in glib dbus fails after first usage of maliit | 11:09 |
| Quintasan | Now, the important question, is it the upstream cdoe or I fckd up? | 11:09 |
| dslogger | no idea | 11:09 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: Did you manage to compile -plugins? | 11:10 |
| dslogger | yes | 11:10 |
| Quintasan | Good | 11:10 |
| dslogger | I can make the kbd appear once | 11:10 |
| Quintasan | Do a screenshot then | 11:10 |
| dslogger | but then the maliit-server goes kaboom and nothing works no more | 11:10 |
| Quintasan | I didn't even see what it looks like | 11:11 |
| Quintasan | I FOUND A BUG!!!1!11 | 11:12 |
| Quintasan | KMail-- | 11:12 |
| yofel | someone ping me when you see _Groo_ | 11:12 |
| dslogger | Quintasan: well, you can just as well run it on a desktop | 11:12 |
| Quintasan | http://i.imgur.com/8rKUb.png <-- it apparently sorts the messages by thread | 11:12 |
| alvin | Quintasan: is that wrong? | 11:13 |
| Quintasan | Well Valorie Zimmerman doesn't look like a thread to me | 11:14 |
| dslogger | shadeslayer: did you not get a device? | 11:14 |
| PiotrN | Quintasan: can i send You a priv ? | 11:14 |
| yofel | dslogger: we weren't at the intel appup meeting | 11:15 |
| jussi | Quintasan: pong? | 11:15 |
| Quintasan | PiotrN: Of course you can | 11:15 |
| dslogger | yofel: :O | 11:15 |
| dslogger | yofel: why not? | 11:15 |
| dslogger | like everyone knew they'd give away tablets :S | 11:15 |
| yofel | well, bulldog98 just came over and I'm trying to build plasma active to put onto his | 11:15 |
| Quintasan | jussi: Oh, I was wondering if I should lend rsalveti (from #linaro) my iMX since he apparently works on them but he doesnt have one and someone has to fix gles finally | 11:16 |
| dslogger | yofel: good luck, it crashes for me | 11:18 |
| dslogger | though that was at like 4 in the morning so I might have done it wrong(tm) | 11:18 |
| alvin | Quintasan: how did you manage to get that screenshot? I tried aggregating by sender, but then the list is not threaded anymore. Sorting by sender sorts the starters of threads. | 11:19 |
| alvin | (by date) | 11:19 |
| Quintasan | alvin: I just configured KMail and it was looking like that by default | 11:19 |
| alvin | Oh, weird. I can't find out how to make it look like that :-) | 11:19 |
| dslogger | Quintasan: what maliit version did you package/ | 11:20 |
| dslogger | ? | 11:20 |
| Quintasan | 0.80 | 11:20 |
| dslogger | there is 0.80.4 | 11:20 |
| Quintasan | Doesnt work | 11:20 |
| dslogger | why nut? | 11:20 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: Did you seriously think I didn't try that at first? :P | 11:20 |
| alvin | Quintasan: Got it! It's View -> Message List -> Aggregation -> Thread Starters | 11:20 |
| dslogger | git sez .4 is what is used on harmattan | 11:20 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: git sez but I can't compile it | 11:22 |
| Quintasan | I couldn't* | 11:23 |
| yofel | dslogger: built kdelibs yourself? | 11:23 |
| yofel | dslogger: and active? | 11:23 |
| shadeslayer | dslogger: no | 11:23 |
| rbelem | dslogger, are you already awake? | 11:23 |
| rbelem | dslogger, go to bed! | 11:23 |
| yofel | rbelem: got packages from the plasma active branches? | 11:23 |
| shadeslayer | dslogger: i thought they wouldn't give out tablets to all 180 people | 11:24 |
| shadeslayer | so ... | 11:24 |
| markey_nokialyze | dslogger: PM | 11:25 |
| rbelem | yofel, yup | 11:25 |
| rbelem | dslogger, may i ask yofel to take a look on those branches? | 11:28 |
| rbelem | :-D | 11:28 |
| yofel | uh, I never touched mobile, but I can take a look later if you want ^^ | 11:28 |
| rbelem | yofel, that's not so mobile centric | 11:29 |
| rbelem | yofel, i just backported some patches and made some changes to the packages | 11:29 |
| yofel | rbelem: where are those branches? | 11:30 |
| rbelem | yofel, https://code.launchpad.net/~rbelem | 11:32 |
| dslogger | rbelem: sure | 11:32 |
| dslogger | rbelem: the more the merrier or something | 11:32 |
| dslogger | shadeslayer: them who registered early get one of course :P | 11:32 |
| dslogger | shadeslayer, yofel: you should come to the tomahack apartment :P | 11:33 |
| yofel | wth | 11:33 |
| shadeslayer | dslogger: huh? what happens there? :P | 11:33 |
| yofel | dslogger: me and bulldog are busy with active, later maybe | 11:33 |
| yofel | _Groo_ has tomahawk packages in his PPA btw. | 11:33 |
| dslogger | yeah, but not up to date | 11:34 |
| dslogger | shadeslayer: kubuntu tablet sprint, I am too tired to go to the uni | 11:35 |
| shadeslayer | dslogger: but then i don't have a tablet to work on ;) | 11:35 |
| dslogger | shadeslayer: you can get convinced to contribute to tomahawk meanwhile :P | 11:36 |
| shadeslayer | hahaha | 11:36 |
| shadeslayer | i don't think markey_nokialyze will be too happy with that :P | 11:37 |
| yofel | rbelem: are the patches going to break something in desktop kde? | 11:39 |
| rbelem | yofel, nope | 11:40 |
| rbelem | yofel, i'm testing them for days and no crashes | 11:40 |
| rbelem | *i've been | 11:40 |
| markey_nokialyze | you have not seen our plans for Amarok 3 yet :) | 11:41 |
| yofel | ah k, then I'll try to use your branch for our exopc test now then :) | 11:41 |
| * rbelem is getting english classes | 11:41 | |
| markey_nokialyze | good things to come | 11:41 |
| markey_nokialyze | Amarok Move is on its way (mobile version) | 11:41 |
| markey_nokialyze | and an Amarok Company | 11:41 |
| rbelem | yofel, you will nee the share-like-connect that is in revu | 11:41 |
| markey_nokialyze | you'd be surprised by how strong the Amarok brand still is. we will reposition the brand in the market | 11:42 |
| rbelem | yofel, i'm about to upload a new package to there | 11:42 |
| yofel | k | 11:42 |
| yofel | rbelem: uh... do try to follow our patch naming though next time | 11:43 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: hi have you noticed that I’m sitting next to you? | 11:45 |
| yofel | . . . | 11:45 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: hi over there :) | 11:45 |
| rbelem | yofel, ok, sorry. i will do it the right way next time | 11:45 |
| rbelem | :-) | 11:45 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: hi | 11:46 |
| shadeslayer | ... | 11:46 |
| bulldog98 | JontheEchidna: hi | 11:46 |
| JontheEchidna | good morning | 11:46 |
| bulldog98 | you just missed something | 11:47 |
| bulldog98 | :) | 11:47 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, hi there :-) | 11:47 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: where are you? | 11:47 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, manaus, in the middle of the amazon rain forest :-) | 11:47 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: ah ok, thought you would be in the middle of the city rain forest | 11:48 |
| bulldog98 | aska Berlin | 11:49 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, where are you all? :-) are you closer to each other? | 11:49 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, :-D | 11:49 |
| shadeslayer | sitting like right next to each other | 11:49 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: sitting next to each other in Berlin at the DS | 11:49 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: +1 | 11:49 |
| rbelem | oh! | 11:49 |
| shadeslayer | and yet we are talking on IRC | 11:49 |
| yofel | well, a pretty noisy cisco switch is seperating me and shadeslayer | 11:50 |
| rbelem | i thought DS was already over | 11:50 |
| bulldog98 | yeah | 11:50 |
| shadeslayer | lol | 11:50 |
| rbelem | hahah | 11:50 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: come over tho the right side | 11:50 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: which side is that? :P | 11:50 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: use the force | 11:50 |
| * rbelem would like to be there with you all | 11:50 | |
| shadeslayer | dslogger ate up all my force | 11:50 |
| * dslogger undresses | 11:51 | |
| bulldog98 | dslogger: give it back | 11:51 |
| shadeslayer | he is like evil with all his devices and such | 11:51 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: maybe we should take his devices | 11:51 |
| shadeslayer | bulldog98: thats what i have been saying :P | 11:51 |
| yofel | rbelem: what's that FindQtMobility.cmake used for? | 11:52 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: you need mobility for keyboard | 11:52 |
| Quintasan | BRRRRRRRRR | 11:52 |
| yofel | ah, it's in universe, so if you need that it'll need a MIR | 11:52 |
| rbelem | yofel, i'm not sure if it is being used | 11:53 |
| yofel | well, it's not a kdelibs build-dep yet, so no problems there | 11:53 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: maliit is using it | 11:53 |
| rbelem | yofel, but i think that it would be good to keep it there | 11:53 |
| Quintasan | Y U NO NICE POCKET WATCHES INTERNET? | 11:53 |
| yofel | ok, fine with me | 11:54 |
| bulldog98 | Quintasan: what? | 11:54 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, did you get maliit working? | 11:54 |
| Quintasan | I'm looking for a pocket watch | 11:54 |
| Quintasan | rbelem, bulldog98: uhm I have a package for that | 11:54 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-mobile | 11:54 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: I wanted while in the Bof for it, but the dev didn’t show up | 11:54 |
| rbelem | :-/ | 11:55 |
| Quintasan | >[quintasan] Package MeeGo software keyboard Maliit: TODO | 11:55 |
| Quintasan | :D | 11:55 |
| rbelem | :-D | 11:55 |
| Quintasan | dslogger says it's b0rked | 11:55 |
| dslogger | cause you packaged the wrong version for sure :P | 11:56 |
| rbelem | lol | 11:56 |
| Quintasan | :/ | 11:56 |
| Quintasan | http://allegro.pl/szwajcarski-bisset-kieszonkowy-silver-data-i1755637551.html | 11:56 |
| Quintasan | What does #kubuntu-devel think about that? | 11:56 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-mobile there is a wrong url for maliit they moved to maliit.org | 11:56 |
| yofel | Quintasan: isn't that a tad too.... analog? | 11:56 |
| Quintasan | It's a pocket watch | 11:57 |
| yofel | and it has a display showing the format in binary digits inside? :P | 11:57 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, could you update? :-) | 11:57 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: haven’t have my lp pass with me | 11:58 |
| Riddell | bulldog98: updated | 11:58 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: thanks | 11:59 |
| Quintasan | Specially for dslogger starting new maliit build | 12:00 |
| Quintasan | plugins later | 12:00 |
| * Quintasan forgot to mount tmpfs | 12:00 | |
| Quintasan | yofel: Can has your fstab line? | 12:01 |
| yofel | 19 tmpfs /var/cache/pbuilder/build tmpfs rw,size=7G 0 0 | 12:01 |
| yofel | without the 19 at the beginning | 12:01 |
| Quintasan | yofel: How much memory do you have? O_O | 12:02 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: use s/19 // | 12:02 |
| bulldog98 | Quintasan: iccream build with 6 PCs :) | 12:02 |
| Quintasan | 6PCs? | 12:02 |
| Quintasan | Where the hell are you? | 12:02 |
| Quintasan | In NASA? | 12:03 |
| yofel | no, hacking room at DS :D | 12:03 |
| Quintasan | lol | 12:03 |
| yofel | and I hae a scheduler running :P | 12:03 |
| Quintasan | FFFF | 12:03 |
| Quintasan | still no -j16 for me | 12:03 |
| bulldog98 | Quintasan: we could maybe get 50 *muhaha* | 12:05 |
| rbelem | yofel, watchout! icecc security is really fragile | 12:05 |
| yofel | well, I personally have it off right now | 12:05 |
| rbelem | i got my laptop compromissed once | 12:05 |
| yofel | since oneiric archive version is still broken *-.- | 12:05 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: oh you shouldn’t have said that | 12:05 |
| Quintasan | ahahahahahahhahaahahahahhaahahhahahahhahahah | 12:06 |
| Quintasan | ./debian/tmp/usr/lib/libmaliit-1.0.so.0.1 | 12:06 |
| Quintasan | LOL | 12:06 |
| bulldog98 | Quintasan: nice versioning you will never have to worry about that | 12:06 |
| yofel | rbelem: your kdelibs build: | 12:06 |
| yofel | cp: cannot stat `debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde4/kspell_aspell.so': No such file or directory | 12:06 |
| yofel | dh_install: cp -a debian/tmp/usr/lib/kde4/kspell_aspell.so debian/kdelibs5-plugins//usr/lib/kde4/ returned exit code 1 | 12:06 |
| yofel | we do not use aspell | 12:06 |
| rbelem | wth | 12:08 |
| rbelem | yofel, ./KUBUNTU-DEBIAN-DIFFERENCES | 12:11 |
| rbelem | yofel, there are instructions to not install it | 12:11 |
| rbelem | i didn't pay attention on that | 12:11 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: I’ll blame you if Kubuntu Active will not work :) | 12:12 |
| rbelem | hahah :-D | 12:13 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, it will work | 12:13 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, if it doesn't work you can kick me | 12:14 |
| rbelem | :-D | 12:14 |
| * bulldog98 will come back to that :) | 12:15 | |
| dslogger | shadeslayer, bulldog98, yofel: do you have dinner plans for today? | 12:20 |
| yofel | I already put my name on the list of Jos's cooking session | 12:20 |
| shadeslayer | dslogger: not yet, do you have anything particular in mind? | 12:21 |
| yofel | http://wiki.desktopsummit.org/Food_time if someone else is interested | 12:21 |
| bulldog98 | dslogger: no | 12:28 |
| dslogger | shadeslayer: nope | 12:28 |
| dslogger | perhaps we should food time too | 12:28 |
| dslogger | my overlord master mentor is attending it seems | 12:28 |
| shadeslayer | dslogger: well, i'm going out for lunch in a couple of minutes to Alexanderplatz | 12:29 |
| * dslogger does not lunch | 12:29 | |
| dslogger | shadeslayer: that is one late lunch | 12:29 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, but i had a late breakfast as well | 12:29 |
| dslogger | you are late(tm) | 12:29 |
| shadeslayer | dslogger: nope, this is usually the time i have lunch back in india as well | 12:32 |
| dslogger | well, we are not in india are we now :P | 12:32 |
| rbelem | yofel, did you get them working? | 12:32 |
| yofel | kdelibs is in my staging ppa, now getting to runtime | 12:32 |
| rbelem | nice :-) | 12:33 |
| yofel | if updating my desktop doesn't break anything I'll push to main bzr | 12:33 |
| Quintasan | BLAAAARGH | 12:39 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: .4 built | 12:39 |
| dslogger | it aint working | 12:39 |
| Quintasan | What ain't working? | 12:40 |
| Quintasan | maliit 0.80.4 doesnt work too? | 12:40 |
| dslogger | well, it does not display anything | 12:41 |
| dslogger | buitl with -plugins 0.80.1 | 12:41 |
| Quintasan | See, I told u it won't work :p | 12:42 |
| Quintasan | ask those harmattan guise how they made it work | 12:42 |
| Quintasan | People go "Maliit that, maliit whatnot" and I haven't seen it work yet | 12:43 |
| dslogger | I have when I built it way back | 12:43 |
| dslogger | Quintasan: talk to jonnor in #meego-inputmethods | 12:44 |
| Quintasan | brr | 12:48 |
| * Quintasan goes off to play games since nothing to do | 12:49 | |
| ScottK | yofel: Thanks (re digikam) | 12:57 |
| === Dan`ka|sleep is now known as Dan`ka | ||
| CIA-52 | [kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 545 * debian/changelog sync with main branch | 13:19 |
| CIA-52 | [kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 546 * debian/ (changelog control) really sync with main branch | 13:20 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: do not break my desktop :P | 13:20 |
| CIA-52 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 547 * debian/changelog typo | 13:24 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: typos can break stuff | 13:24 |
| CIA-52 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 548 * debian/changelog fix changelog date | 13:27 |
| jussi | Sput: ping ping ping | 13:45 |
| Sput | jussi: pong pong pong | 13:48 |
| * jussi pms Sput | 13:48 | |
| bulldog98 | yofel: don’t break anything :P | 13:51 |
| bulldog98 | Sput: hi | 13:51 |
| bulldog98 | Sput: I watch you :) | 13:51 |
| dslogger | bulldog98: you should fix xcompiling with gcc 4.6 on oneyric | 13:52 |
| dslogger | characters missing | 13:52 |
| * dslogger should go to bed again | 13:52 | |
| bulldog98 | dslogger: what ??? | 13:52 |
| dslogger | g++: fatal error: -fuse-linker-plugin, but liblto_plugin.so not found | 13:52 |
| dslogger | compilation terminated. | 13:52 |
| dslogger | ICECC[22258] 15:48:18: Compiled on 192.168.1.230 | 13:52 |
| yofel | oh that, someone fixed the bug with the wrong command | 13:52 |
| bulldog98 | dslogger: you have to say sudo do that :) | 13:52 |
| yofel | so someone needs to fix the fix | 13:52 |
| yofel | bulldog98: sudo fix icecc | 13:53 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: sudo do it yourself | 13:53 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: passwd please | 13:53 |
| yofel | this discussion is like utterly pointless... | 13:53 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: you got the point | 13:54 |
| ScottK | bulldog98: What's the fix for that? It's rather cramping my style trying to fix scribus on armel. | 13:55 |
| yofel | sec | 13:55 |
| bulldog98 | ScottK: hopefully you can soon join our forces of Kubuntu Active Ninjas | 13:57 |
| ScottK | Not without a fixed icecc I can't. | 13:57 |
| yofel | ScottK: in icecc-create-env line 122, change -print-prog-name into -print-file-name | 13:57 |
| yofel | then it should add the plugin | 13:57 |
| bulldog98 | *Press Thumbs* | 13:57 |
| yofel | like really add it and not just try to | 13:57 |
| ScottK | yofel: Just on Oneiric? | 13:58 |
| bulldog98 | ScottK: yes | 13:58 |
| yofel | dunno, anywhere it's broken, but that's against the oneiric package | 13:58 |
| yofel | icecc 0.9.7 I mean | 13:58 |
| dslogger | there is an upstream fix for it | 14:00 |
| dslogger | can we plz ship that | 14:00 |
| ScottK | Someone point me to it. | 14:02 |
| yofel | 0.9.7 is the newest upstream version afaik, and they closed debian bug 630504 - but it's obviously still broken | 14:04 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 630504 in icecc "icecc: Remote compilation fails with missing g++ plugin" [Important,Fixed] http://bugs.debian.org/630504 | 14:04 |
| jussi | aww, my calendar is broken :( | 14:12 |
| jussi | ie. I dont have one.... | 14:12 |
| jussi | http://wstaw.org/m/2011/08/11/plasma-desktopbw2129.jpg | 14:13 |
| tsimpson | your computer must be full up | 14:13 |
| tsimpson | it ate all the dates ;) | 14:14 |
| yofel | rbelem: TIP: if you already put a package on revu first create yourself a PPA and upload it there | 14:14 |
| jussi | tsimpson: lol | 14:15 |
| jussi | meh, removed and re-added it. fixored... | 14:16 |
| _Groo_ | hi/2 all | 14:17 |
| yofel | _Groo_: where the hell is your digikam package? | 14:17 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: up mi a$$ | 14:17 |
| _Groo_ | my* | 14:17 |
| _Groo_ | like i said to ... huu... | 14:18 |
| _Groo_ | damn memory | 14:18 |
| _Groo_ | anyway | 14:18 |
| _Groo_ | im gonna upload it to my ppa tomorrow | 14:18 |
| yofel | why not like right NOW? | 14:18 |
| _Groo_ | its based on Philip Johnsson work | 14:18 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: cause im behind a proxy at work | 14:18 |
| yofel | ah | 14:18 |
| yofel | well k | 14:18 |
| _Groo_ | and dput doesnt accept proxys :P | 14:18 |
| _Groo_ | if it did, i would be a very happy camper | 14:19 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: i can send the debians to you by mail | 14:19 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: if you are in a hurry :D | 14:19 |
| yofel | fine with me, but I'm currently looking at plasma active stuff anyway | 14:19 |
| bulldog98 | someone willing to prepere a Kubuntu Active Article? | 14:20 |
| yofel | rbelem: do we have a plasma-mobile / plasma-active team on LP with a PPA? | 14:21 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: btw like you know im doing natty weekly builds of calligra | 14:22 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: they are in a good shape for a next day release when the next release goes out | 14:22 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: lots of moving around, but i have everything under control | 14:23 |
| yofel | oh cool, put the packaging in a branch so one can look at it when you have time | 14:23 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: its becoming amazing, plan is a work of art... dia is a piece of $hit in comparison | 14:25 |
| yofel | hm, lemme try | 14:25 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: love the google docs integration too :) | 14:25 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: it wasnt working last month cause the engine wasnt ready.. it is now | 14:25 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: still missing the arrow pointers (dont think they are there yet), but it works very well | 14:26 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: also kformula is gone, its a shape now | 14:26 |
| mfraz74 | is it possible to add the package sound-theme-freedesktop as a default install in 11.10 so that the speaker test buttons work correctly?# | 14:32 |
| _Groo_ | mfraz74: tks for the tip, i was wondering why it wasnt wporking | 14:38 |
| mfraz74 | _Groo_: i wa going over some old mailing list posts the other day and came across something that lead me to a website saying to install that package | 14:39 |
| _Groo_ | mfraz74: yeah it works now | 14:39 |
| _Groo_ | mfraz74: someone forgot to add that package :D | 14:40 |
| _Groo_ | to the meta one | 14:40 |
| _Groo_ | dslogger beat me with a stick!!! again!!! | 14:40 |
| rbelem | yofel, we have the kubuntu-mobile team | 14:44 |
| rbelem | yofel, but no ppa | 14:44 |
| yofel | hm, true, guess we could use that | 14:44 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: question | 14:50 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: since i use philip worked as base for mine, how do i handle credits in control file? | 14:50 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: with my own packaing for my consumption i usually just keep the original credits, its a way to remember where they came from | 14:51 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: but for kubuntu, what should i put? | 14:51 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: Original-Maintainer? | 14:51 |
| _Groo_ | and put Maintainer as the kubuntu team? | 14:51 |
| _Groo_ | or my name? | 14:51 |
| mfraz74 | http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.audio.libcanberra.general/199 | 14:51 |
| _Groo_ | or sarah pallins? | 14:51 |
| yofel | _Groo_: maintainer is kubuntu, you can put him as original one | 14:52 |
| Riddell | dslogger: what does phonon need zeitgeist for? | 14:52 |
| _Groo_ | yofel: k tks | 14:52 |
| dslogger | Riddell: it does not | 14:52 |
| dslogger | it can feed zeitgeist | 14:52 |
| dslogger | if built with support and zeitgeist is running | 14:53 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: its suposed to snitch zeit what we are listening | 14:53 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: but its not a hard dependency | 14:53 |
| Riddell | dslogger: do we want it? it means promoting qtzeitgeist to main | 14:53 |
| _Groo_ | Riddell: IMHO i think its best to promote, since other proggies are gonna start using it too real soon (TM) | 14:54 |
| Quintasan | Are you sure we aren't pushing Akonadi 2 on users with Zeitgeist? | 14:55 |
| Quintasan | like RAMOMNOMNOM x2? | 14:55 |
| Quintasan | mfraz74: That, sir, is a good idea | 14:56 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: akonadi is needed for kdepim anyway... so its part of lie | 14:57 |
| _Groo_ | life* | 14:57 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: its strigi that gives most headaches | 14:58 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: and it can be disabled by default.. i have it disabled here | 14:58 |
| Quintasan | _Groo_: I don't care what makes that stuff PITA, I want it either to work or stay disabled by default | 14:58 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: also zeit is a diferent beast | 14:58 |
| Quintasan | I know that | 14:58 |
| mfraz74 | Strigi seems to have been misbehaving recently since upgrading to KDE 4.7 | 14:59 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: then you should ship nepomuk filewatch disabled by default in .desktop file | 14:59 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: its still broken in 4.7 | 14:59 |
| yofel | mfraz74: not for me | 14:59 |
| Quintasan | Nepomuk is broken by design | 14:59 |
| * Quintasan hides | 14:59 | |
| yofel | for me it misbehaved with 4.6, 4.7 is fine | 15:00 |
| Riddell | qtzeitgeist doesn't seem to depend on zeitgeist itself or even any other library besides qt so I guess it doesn't do anything unless you're otherwise using zeitgeist | 15:00 |
| bulldog98 | for me Nepomuk is fine since 4.0 :P | 15:00 |
| Riddell | mfraz74: how so? | 15:00 |
| mfraz74 | The sys tray icon keeps displaying this message "did not receive a reply. possible causes include: the remote application" when started | 15:00 |
| Quintasan | I wonder why they did not rewrite Strigi too | 15:01 |
| mfraz74 | and virtuoso-t seems to be using a lot of my CPU | 15:01 |
| dslogger | Riddell: not yet | 15:01 |
| dslogger | Riddell: there is no actual app that can make use of zeitgeist in kde yet, so it does not make sense | 15:01 |
| dslogger | bulldog98: find people for dinner | 15:01 |
| dslogger | I am hungry | 15:01 |
| mfraz74 | Chinese for me tonight :) | 15:02 |
| bulldog98 | dslogger: jos | 15:03 |
| bulldog98 | :P | 15:03 |
| dslogger | everyone doing food time tonight, or what? | 15:03 |
| bulldog98 | dslogger: heh last time I checked we were only 8 people | 15:05 |
| dslogger | Sput: what are you doing for dinner? | 15:07 |
| Sput | dslogger: nothing yet | 15:07 |
| dslogger | Sput: http://mustafas.de/ | 15:08 |
| Sput | but I'm not going to have dinner before they kick us out here around 19h | 15:08 |
| Sput | that looks meatless | 15:08 |
| dslogger | lol | 15:09 |
| dslogger | you poor sob | 15:09 |
| dslogger | actually I fancy some curry wurst | 15:09 |
| Sput | yeah, currywurst sounds nice | 15:09 |
| Quintasan | :D | 15:10 |
| Sput | but depends on the plans afterwards, maybe we're lucky and find some place to hack, then I'd prefer having food nearby instead of crossing the city | 15:10 |
| Riddell | I'm afraid I failed to see the attraction of currywurst whilst in Berlin | 15:11 |
| Riddell | processed meat and cheap sauce just doesn't seem like a delicacy | 15:12 |
| dslogger | Sput: you can always visit the tomahack apartment :P | 15:13 |
| * Riddell wonders why phonon suddently needs a dependency on libx11-dev in oneiric | 15:14 | |
| ScottK | I suspect because some Qt package lost it. | 15:15 |
| dslogger | Sput: curry36, mehringdamm? | 15:16 |
| dslogger | that actually is on the other side of the city for me :P | 15:16 |
| Sput | hehe. that's very close to my hotel | 15:19 |
| Sput | but I have no idea about plans for tonight, so no promises | 15:20 |
| Sput | also, we should discuss such things in #desktopsummit | 15:20 |
| mfraz74 | are you all in Berlin? | 15:20 |
| Quintasan | I'm not :P | 15:22 |
| Riddell | I'm back home | 15:22 |
| * yofel is, as are dslogger and bulldog98 | 15:22 | |
| bulldog98 | Kubuntu Active is nearly ready | 15:22 |
| Quintasan | What the... | 15:22 |
| bulldog98 | Quintasan: yes it isn’t that much work | 15:23 |
| Quintasan | I'm not talking about that | 15:23 |
| Quintasan | :/ | 15:23 |
| Quintasan | It's going to be much more pita than I tought | 15:23 |
| Sput | hm. bulldog98 is not happen to sit next to Sput currently? | 15:24 |
| Sput | *does | 15:24 |
| Quintasan | lol | 15:24 |
| bulldog98 | Sput: no | 15:24 |
| Sput | well, there's some guy talking about Kubuntu Active to me, but he doesn't wear a nametag :) | 15:24 |
| bulldog98 | Sput: because he lost it | 15:24 |
| Quintasan | It's like nigelb on UDS | 15:24 |
| Quintasan | Telling me on IRC to turn around | 15:25 |
| Quintasan | and I was like "WUT" | 15:25 |
| bulldog98 | Quintasan: normal stuff at hacker confs | 15:25 |
| nigelb | Quintasan: hey, I just couldn't associate name to IRC nick. | 15:25 |
| nigelb | Never again! :P | 15:25 |
| nigelb | Quintasan: also, is shadeslayer alive and somewhere nearby? ;) | 15:26 |
| Quintasan | nigelb: He is at DS | 15:27 |
| nigelb | Quintasan: I know, anwywhere near where you are right now? | 15:28 |
| Quintasan | nigelb: on IRC :P | 15:28 |
| mfraz74 | Will Muon work with the Ubuntu software centre? | 15:28 |
| Quintasan | nigelb: I didn't go to DS unfortunately :< | 15:28 |
| nigelb | Quintasan: ah! | 15:28 |
| yofel | nigelb: he went for lunch like 2h ago | 15:29 |
| yofel | and we'll be going for dinner in ~30m | 15:29 |
| dslogger | Sput: so, I'll drop by the uni soonish | 15:31 |
| Sput | dslogger: k | 15:31 |
| dslogger | yofel: where are you silly people hanging out? | 15:31 |
| Sput | dslogger: I intend to go to the in-berlin hackerspace later tonight | 15:31 |
| yofel | dslogger: food time | 15:31 |
| dslogger | yofel: already? | 15:31 |
| dslogger | Sput: well yeah, food first though, right? :P | 15:31 |
| bulldog98 | dslogger: at 1800 | 15:31 |
| yofel | jos does start cooking at 6, but you could drop in later | 15:32 |
| Riddell | mfraz74: that question doesn't make much sense, Muon does much the same thing as the software centre | 15:32 |
| * dslogger waves fist at bulldog98 and yofel | 15:32 | |
| dslogger | where is the ol' shadeslayer | 15:32 |
| Sput | dslogger: yes, food around 19h, but nowhere out of the way very much I think | 15:32 |
| yofel | dslogger: come too :P | 15:32 |
| Sput | I'll go with maelcum, we might be able to agree to something :) | 15:32 |
| mfraz74 | Riddell: I mean being able to buy software as you can in Ubuntu software center | 15:32 |
| nigelb | yofel: has dslogger been in a suit? ;) | 15:32 |
| yofel | and shadeslayer is MIA since he went for lunch.... | 15:32 |
| yofel | nigelb: at DS? yes | 15:32 |
| dslogger | yofel: "lunch" | 15:32 |
| Riddell | mfraz74: oh right, I don't know, probably not | 15:32 |
| yofel | dslogger: well, late lunch | 15:32 |
| nigelb | yofel: damn! :P | 15:32 |
| bulldog98 | dslogger: no shadeslayer is haveing launch | 15:33 |
| bulldog98 | :) | 15:33 |
| yofel | nigelb: see pic on Riddell's blog | 15:33 |
| bulldog98 | nigelb: I’m on that, too | 15:33 |
| yofel | as am I ^^ | 15:33 |
| dslogger | bulldog98: "lunch" | 15:33 |
| nigelb | yofel: you're the person in blue? | 15:33 |
| yofel | yep | 15:34 |
| nigelb | oh man, dslogger is exactly in clothes I expected. | 15:34 |
| dslogger | yofel: drop me your phone numba in case I'll join the food time cause I will likely get lost | 15:34 |
| yofel | see instructions on wiki page | 15:34 |
| * yofel tries to remember his number... | 15:34 | |
| dslogger | lolz | 15:34 |
| bulldog98 | dslogger: mine is that easy to remember it’s the only one I ever rememberd | 15:35 |
| mfraz74 | i can only remember mine as I've had it so long! | 15:35 |
| mfraz74 | going to leave you to the food now and I'll say bye | 15:36 |
| yofel | yay, mobile crashes on the exopc | 15:38 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: I don’t know | 15:38 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: but if you saw that :) | 15:39 |
| bulldog98 | \join #desktopsummit | 15:52 |
| bulldog98 | \join #kubuntu-de.org | 15:52 |
| Quintasan | lol | 15:53 |
| bulldog98 | Quintasan: yes you still can join us :) | 15:55 |
| shadeslayer | dslogger: ping | 16:05 |
| shadeslayer | dslogger: ssup? | 16:06 |
| dslogger | shadeslayer: are you at the uni? | 16:06 |
| shadeslayer | yus | 16:06 |
| shadeslayer | in the hax0r room | 16:06 |
| dslogger | shadeslayer: where is that? | 16:06 |
| * shadeslayer waves fist at his GSoC Card | 16:06 | |
| shadeslayer | dslogger: 103/104 i think | 16:07 |
| dslogger | Sput: in what room are you? | 16:07 |
| shadeslayer | same room | 16:07 |
| Sput | dslogger: hacking room first floor | 16:07 |
| dslogger | I reckon you two should then be in the same room :P | 16:09 |
| shadeslayer | yeah | 16:09 |
| dslogger | anyhow, leaving now | 16:09 |
| dslogger | should be there in 30 minutes tops | 16:09 |
| shadeslayer | dslogger: ok | 16:10 |
| Sput | dslogger: ok | 16:11 |
| _Groo_ | dslogger: ping | 16:16 |
| Quintasan | JontheEchidna: ping | 16:47 |
| Quintasan | or ScottK | 16:48 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Pong | 16:48 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Great. If I'm 18 I'm allowed to stay in U.S without guardian? | 16:48 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: I would think so, but I'm not an expert on the rules. | 16:49 |
| * Quintasan will call consulate tomorrow anyways | 16:49 | |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Do you have email to Marianne? | 16:49 |
| Quintasan | I seem to have lost the address | 16:49 |
| ScottK | Except for buying alcohol (sorry), 18 is considered the age of majority in the US. | 16:49 |
| * ScottK lookg | 16:49 | |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: he can always ask someone to buy it for him ;) | 16:50 |
| ScottK | He can, but they are pretty tough about such things these days. | 16:50 |
| _Groo_ | any brave soul is using phonon git and phonon-gstreamer git? | 16:50 |
| _Groo_ | ScottK: how one would know? | 16:51 |
| ScottK | Most states have special police agencies for enforcing alcohol distribution/consumption laws. | 16:51 |
| _Groo_ | wait, what.. since when gstreamer supports vaapi in natty? | 16:53 |
| _Groo_ | ah its a ppa... nice | 16:54 |
| _Groo_ | pitty it doesnt show explicitly in gstreamer-properties | 16:55 |
| _Groo_ | but its borking phonon-gstreamer ehehehe | 16:55 |
| _Groo_ | new window is being open instead of using embedded window | 16:55 |
| _Groo_ | works fine in totem | 16:55 |
| _Groo_ | but dragon/dolphin doesnt | 16:55 |
| _Groo_ | apachelogger: aaaapaacheee wakeeee uppp | 18:04 |
| _Groo_ | anyone here in same room as apachelogger ? | 18:07 |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I heard you know French, how do I tell some "I don't understand" ? :D | 18:17 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: nick nick avec moi! | 18:19 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: Je ne comprends pas | 18:20 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: you know theres a thing called google translator, right? | 18:20 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: im portuguese if you need it too | 18:21 |
| ScottK | Why did we not include libkdeclarative in kde4libs? | 19:19 |
| rbelem | ScottK, it is in my patches | 19:21 |
| rbelem | ScottK, that yofel is reviewing | 19:21 |
| ScottK | I see. | 19:21 |
| ScottK | OK. | 19:21 |
| ScottK | yofel should get busy. Feature freeze is in 98 minutes. | 19:22 |
| rbelem | ScottK, it is adding libkactivities too | 19:22 |
| * ScottK nods | 19:22 | |
| rbelem | ouch | 19:22 |
| rbelem | ScottK, do you know the right way to use git archive in the get-orig-source? | 19:23 |
| ScottK | No. Sorry. | 19:23 |
| rbelem | np | 19:24 |
| rbelem | :-) | 19:24 |
| Quintasan | _Groo_: Well, relatives came over with a little gir | 19:32 |
| Quintasan | girl* | 19:32 |
| Quintasan | She is talking to me but I don't understand even a bit :D | 19:32 |
| Quintasan | She took liking to my money | 19:32 |
| * Quintasan shurgs | 19:32 | |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: ehehehe | 19:36 |
| _Groo_ | Quintasan: learn french | 19:36 |
| rbelem | ScottK, could you take a look in the share-like-connect http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/share-like-connect | 19:50 |
| rbelem | ? | 19:50 |
| rbelem | :-) | 19:50 |
| ScottK | rbelem: I took a quick look. | 19:53 |
| ScottK | Don't install the .a file (I don't think). | 19:53 |
| rbelem | oki | 19:54 |
| rbelem | ScottK, is the spelling ok in the debian/control? | 19:54 |
| ScottK | It seems mostly OK, but you don't want me to advocate it on REVU. You want me to be able to be the archive admin that reviews it after upload. | 19:54 |
| ScottK | rbelem: I didn't read it carefully, but nothing jumped out (busy with $WORK ATM). | 19:54 |
| rbelem | ScottK, np | 19:55 |
| rbelem | :-) | 19:55 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, could you take a look in the http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/share-like-connect? :-) | 19:59 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: A little bit llater | 20:00 |
| rbelem | oki | 20:00 |
| === micahg_ is now known as micahg | ||
| === apachelogger is now known as dslogger | ||
| === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu: Friendly Computing | Feature Freeze in effect - Bug fixing welcome | TODO: http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-oneiric/group/topic-oneiric-kubuntu.html | ||
| ScottK | Pencils down ... | 21:06 |
| rbelem | ScottK, do you know why im getting this error dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no orig.tar file found | 21:11 |
| rbelem | ScottK, i'm building qt-mobility-opensource-src-1.2.0.tar.gz | 21:11 |
| DarkwingDuck | Wow, Alpha 3 is actually smooth. | 21:12 |
| ScottK | rbelem: You want qt-mobility-opensource-src_1.2.0.orig.tar.gz | 21:12 |
| ScottK | just mv or cp the tarball | 21:12 |
| rbelem | hum... | 21:12 |
| rbelem | thx ScottK | 21:12 |
| rbelem | ScottK, same error | 21:14 |
| ScottK | What's the full error? | 21:14 |
| rbelem | ScottK, http://paste.kde.org/108613/ | 21:15 |
| ScottK | rbelem: What's the output of ls ../qt-mobility-opensource-src_1.2.0.orig.tar.gz | 21:17 |
| ScottK | Also does debian/format/source say 3.0 (quilt)? | 21:17 |
| rbelem | ScottK, ../qt-mobility-opensource-src_1.2.0.orig.tar.gz | 21:17 |
| rbelem | ScottK, yup | 21:17 |
| ScottK | OK, Dunno. | 21:17 |
| DarkwingDuck | Oh wow... it's running 3.0 | 21:18 |
| ScottK | BTW, dpkg-buildpackage -S -sa shouldn't need fakeroot | 21:19 |
| rbelem | ScottK, 3.0 (native) works | 21:21 |
| ScottK | Weird. | 21:21 |
| Quintasan_ | Uhm | 21:23 |
| Quintasan_ | rbelem: Is the changelog using the same version? | 21:24 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| Quintasan | As the tarball? | 21:24 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Looking at your package | 21:24 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: The upload from 11 Aug 2011 22:00 fixes the stuff dslogger mentioned? | 21:25 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, yup :-) | 21:25 |
| Quintasan | Cool | 21:25 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, it have the same version of the tarball | 21:26 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, the source name is qtmobility and the tarball name is qt-mobility-opensource-src | 21:26 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, maybe thats the reason | 21:26 |
| Quintasan | I mean the version | 21:26 |
| Quintasan | the version in changelog should be | 21:27 |
| Quintasan | 1.2.0-something | 21:27 |
| Quintasan | like 1.2.0-0ubuntu1~git~since~I~was~too~lazy~to~mention~revision | 21:27 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: ack on share-like-connect | 21:28 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Can we upload that or FFe? | 21:28 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: FFe. For new package post FF you need to find a willing archive admin to review it. I volunteer. | 21:29 |
| ScottK | Still need the paperwork though. | 21:29 |
| * Quintasan does the paperwork since he doesnt know how | 21:29 | |
| rbelem | :-) | 21:30 |
| Quintasan | ofc I'll have rbelem help me with details | 21:31 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, :-) | 21:31 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, yup | 21:31 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, have more packages to review | 21:32 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, qtmobility-1.2 | 21:32 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, contour | 21:32 |
| Quintasan | I will review qtmobility-1.2 since I need it for simon I think | 21:33 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, and declarative-plasmoids | 21:33 |
| Quintasan | I'm not really in favour of having contour in repos now rbelem | 21:33 |
| rbelem | nice :-) | 21:33 |
| Quintasan | Since it's still in development | 21:33 |
| Quintasan | Having PPA would be nicer imo | 21:33 |
| rbelem | oki | 21:33 |
| Quintasan | BRR | 21:33 |
| Quintasan | BRRRRR | 21:34 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Did you even testbuilt s-l-c? | 21:34 |
| Quintasan | ERROR: Could not find KDE4 kde4-config | 21:34 |
| Quintasan | erp | 21:34 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, i did not added build depends... sorry | 21:34 |
| rbelem | :-( | 21:35 |
| Quintasan | Always, always testbuild before new upload | 21:35 |
| Quintasan | shared-desktop-ontologies is missing as well | 21:35 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: so, add kdelibs5-dev and shared-desktop-ontologies to deps | 21:36 |
| Quintasan | kactivities/consumer.h missing | 21:36 |
| Quintasan | causes FTBFS | 21:36 |
| Quintasan | !search kactivities/consumer.h | 21:36 |
| ubottu | Found: | 21:36 |
| Quintasan | ... | 21:36 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, it needs the new kdelibs | 21:36 |
| Quintasan | the new? | 21:36 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, that yofel_ was reviewing | 21:37 |
| Quintasan | sh!@# | 21:37 |
| Quintasan | yofel_: PING PING PING | 21:37 |
| * Quintasan goes for energy drink | 21:37 | |
| rbelem | Quintasan, https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/+archive/ppa | 21:38 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Okay, here is the deal | 21:39 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: s-l-c is supposed to go to ppa or to ARCHIVES? | 21:39 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, archives | 21:39 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, it is a dependency of plasma-mobile | 21:40 |
| Quintasan | then those kdelibs need to go as well if they are build-depends for s-lc | 21:40 |
| Quintasan | plasma-mobile to archives as well?! | 21:40 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, yup | 21:40 |
| Quintasan | urgh | 21:40 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Gimmie the percentage of chances we will get FFe for those three aforementioned | 21:41 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, plasma-mobile depends the new kdelibs kde-runtime | 21:41 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: fix build-deps in s-l-c and upload to revu | 21:41 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Which three? | 21:41 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, oki | 21:41 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: share-like-connect, new kdelibs upload and plasma-mobile | 21:42 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, you forgot kde-runtime | 21:42 |
| Quintasan | yofel_, rbelem: you should have told me you were working on that so I would stop playing games and help you out -_- | 21:42 |
| * Quintasan wasted a few good hours for TF2 and HoN | 21:42 | |
| rbelem | Quintasan, hahaha | 21:42 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: And kde-runtime as well :/ | 21:43 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: ping | 21:43 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Depends on how invasive the libs/runtime changes are. I'd want to get some code review on it. | 21:43 |
| Quintasan | Why he is not there when he is needed | 21:43 |
| dslogger | Quintasan: yus | 21:43 |
| ScottK | If those are OK, then p-m and slc are no problem. | 21:43 |
| Quintasan | THERE HE IS | 21:43 |
| Quintasan | ! | 21:43 |
| dslogger | debugging pornoon right now | 21:43 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: Screw debugging for now | 21:44 |
| rbelem | :-D | 21:44 |
| ScottK | dslogger: You should find a minion to apply for another standing feature freeze for mobile/active work. | 21:44 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: Help us with ffe | 21:44 |
| dslogger | Quintasan: make feature freeze exception happening | 21:44 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: I'm calling you to help us (me yofel_ and rbelem) | 21:44 |
| Quintasan | I'm not calling you to tell ME to go to work :P | 21:44 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, i have to go home | 21:45 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: fix s-l-c before you go :P | 21:45 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, i will be back in one hour | 21:45 |
| Quintasan | 30 second edit and I can ack and start ffe | 21:45 |
| rbelem | ok | 21:45 |
| rbelem | :-) | 21:45 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/+archive/ppa | 21:45 |
| Quintasan | review shit in kdelibs | 21:45 |
| Quintasan | I mean, good time to start adding new features | 21:46 |
| Quintasan | right after freezee | 21:46 |
| Quintasan | :DDDD | 21:46 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, kdelibs5-dev (>= 4.7.0) ??? | 21:48 |
| Quintasan | Yes | 21:48 |
| rbelem | or with the 0ubuntu3? | 21:48 |
| Quintasan | Though I don't really expect it won't get anything earlier in oneiric | 21:48 |
| Quintasan | Make it 4.7 even | 21:48 |
| rbelem | oki | 21:48 |
| yofel_ | Quintasan: pong, finally at the hostel again | 21:50 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| Quintasan | yofel: Cool story | 21:50 |
| Quintasan | Done reviewing kdelibs? | 21:51 |
| yofel | Quintasan: also, me and bulldog98 were like totally busy trying to get this crapz to work | 21:51 |
| Quintasan | Again, tell me that next time | 21:51 |
| dslogger | Quintasan: I do not quite understand what you expect from me? | 21:51 |
| Quintasan | We are adding features RIGHT AFTER feature freeze :D | 21:51 |
| dslogger | how can one collaborate on a standing feature freeze? | 21:51 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, uploaded | 21:51 |
| yofel | and only ended up with crashing plasma-mobile on the exopc | 21:52 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: Code review of kdelibs and runtime changes? -_- | 21:52 |
| dslogger | since when are code reviews necessary to get a standing exception? | 21:52 |
| Quintasan | Since ScottK told us he'd like to get one if he is to review with his archive admin hat? | 21:52 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, i'm going home | 21:52 |
| rbelem | ok? | 21:53 |
| rbelem | :-) | 21:53 |
| dslogger | the archive admins do not grand standing exceptions | 21:53 |
| dslogger | s/grand/grant | 21:53 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Cool stuff, be sure to come here once you are home :P | 21:53 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, ok | 21:53 |
| Quintasan | :P | 21:53 |
| ScottK | dslogger: This isn't for everything, I want someone who understands the code to look at the libs/runtime stuff. | 21:53 |
| dslogger | Quintasan: don't you think I'd have reviewed the code since last week if I had time | 21:53 |
| yofel | Quintasan: kdelibs and kde-runtime need sane patch names, otherwise the PPA packages should work | 21:53 |
| yofel | rbelem: wait | 21:53 |
| ScottK | Also archive admin/release team member | 21:53 |
| yofel | rbelem: are you *sure* that are all the patches we need? | 21:53 |
| yofel | because at least for us the packages we built didn't work | 21:54 |
| yofel | we ran out of time debugging them though | 21:54 |
| rbelem | yofel, yup | 21:54 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: ? | 21:54 |
| yofel | bulldog98: | 21:55 |
| yofel | <yofel> rbelem: are you *sure* that are all the patches we need? | 21:55 |
| yofel | <yofel> because at least for us the packages we built didn't work | 21:55 |
| rbelem | yofel, i can upload the packages that i built | 21:55 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: Ehh, I know you know policy better than me but who on Earth do you expect me to ask to do CODE review? :S | 21:55 |
| yofel | rbelem: well, as long as the patches are the same the packages should end up the same too | 21:55 |
| dslogger | Quintasan: well, see, I asked you to get a standing feature freeze exception for all of mobile/tablet | 21:55 |
| dslogger | that has nothing to do with a pending code review at hand | 21:55 |
| rbelem | yofel, that's true | 21:55 |
| Quintasan | And what do you think I'm doing now? | 21:55 |
| dslogger | but as said, I do not have time for the review now | 21:55 |
| ScottK | dslogger: No FFe for libs/runtime that stuff is rather pointless though. | 21:56 |
| Quintasan | brr | 21:56 |
| rbelem | yofel, i will be back in one hour | 21:56 |
| dslogger | Quintasan: ^ | 21:56 |
| yofel | I will probably be asleep then, so we'll continue tomorrow | 21:56 |
| bulldog98 | dslogger: I don't think we get that stuff to work, without breaking desktop | 21:57 |
| yofel | I'll try to rename the patches though before going to bed | 21:57 |
| yofel | bulldog98: I've got the patched packages running here, nothing broken yet | 21:57 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: ok | 21:57 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: even better | 21:58 |
| * Quintasan loves everyone here | 21:58 | |
| Quintasan | adding features after feature freeze :D | 21:58 |
| yofel | Quintasan: we're just doing it the ubuntu way :P | 21:58 |
| Quintasan | yes it works now rbelem :D | 21:58 |
| Quintasan | URGH | 22:00 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: no copyright on debian/* T_T | 22:01 |
| Quintasan | Otherwise, everything is okay | 22:01 |
| Quintasan | yofel: What we need first is kdelibs | 22:02 |
| bulldog98 | wrong button | 22:04 |
| yofel | Quintasan: I'm renaming the patches right now, they're still in git format-patch naming style | 22:04 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Are you going to push that to bzr or where? | 22:04 |
| Quintasan | yofel: All you did was to patch the existing source, right? | 22:05 |
| yofel | when I'm done I'll put that into bzr | 22:05 |
| yofel | well yeah, the patches go on top of the archive package. Adding a few new files and symbols | 22:06 |
| Quintasan | Okay. | 22:06 |
| Quintasan | If we get that | 22:06 |
| Quintasan | Then I will do FFe for s-l-c and then for plasma mobile | 22:06 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: About ABI manager on libkwineeffects | 22:13 |
| ScottK | Yes? | 22:13 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: AFAIR ABIManager can't handle two packages with the same version, right? | 22:14 |
| ScottK | Dunno. | 22:14 |
| Quintasan | MoDaX told me you dropped the headers | 22:14 |
| Quintasan | Or you told me that, can't remember now | 22:14 |
| yofel | about which martin was actually rather unhappy about, talked with him about that | 22:16 |
| yofel | he really doesn't care about the abi much though since from his POV nothing in kde can break, if anything he would accept patches | 22:17 |
| Quintasan | Currently it is like that | 22:18 |
| Quintasan | Either we have headers and use ABIManager on that | 22:18 |
| Quintasan | and don't have KWin GLES | 22:18 |
| Quintasan | or drop headers altogether and have gles | 22:18 |
| Quintasan | since kwin also needs kwineffects afaik | 22:18 |
| Quintasan | yofel: How's the patch? | 22:28 |
| yofel | Quintasan: lp:~yofel/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs-active-4.7 | 22:28 |
| yofel | once I've actually pushed it | 22:28 |
| yofel | my connection is like slowly SLOW | 22:29 |
| yofel | also, that's not one patch, but 11 | 22:29 |
| Quintasan | derp | 22:30 |
| Quintasan | + mine changes to workspace for gles | 22:30 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Those headers were dropped in Debian only so far? | 22:30 |
| Quintasan | for likwineeffects | 22:30 |
| yofel | no idea, ask ScottK - he did that afair | 22:31 |
| ScottK | Instable ABI. | 22:31 |
| ScottK | Turns out that contrary to my understanding there is at least one third party app (not packaged) using those headers. | 22:32 |
| ScottK | So maybe we decide their runtime ABI check is enough. | 22:32 |
| ScottK | Dunno | 22:32 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: Well, I want to know if we dropped that in Ubuntu as well or I need to incorporate those for my kwin-gles merge | 22:33 |
| yofel | well, martin did say someone was using those | 22:33 |
| ScottK | I did it in Ubuntu, but I'm not sure it was the right thing. | 22:33 |
| * yofel is still pushing... | 22:34 | |
| * rbelem is back | 22:34 | |
| Quintasan | rbelem: So, no copyright for debian/* | 22:35 |
| Quintasan | That's YOUR packaging :P | 22:35 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: It was the right thing! Now we can have KWin GLES | 22:35 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, which pacakge? | 22:35 |
| rbelem | slc | 22:36 |
| rbelem | ? | 22:36 |
| ScottK | Maybe shove them in a separate -dev package. | 22:36 |
| Quintasan | Instead of *waiting* for someone to fix ABI manager | 22:36 |
| ScottK | Dunno. | 22:36 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: s-l-c | 22:36 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, i think i uploaded the worng pkg | 22:37 |
| Quintasan | huh? | 22:37 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: I mean | 22:37 |
| Quintasan | in debian/copyright | 22:37 |
| yofel | Quintasan: pushed, needs a recheck though, I was quite in a hurry merging that before. At least the symbols file I updates is probably not right and the 2 libs rbelem added don't have any symbol files | 22:37 |
| Quintasan | you need to mention the license for your packaging there | 22:38 |
| * yofel is off to bed | 22:40 | |
| rbelem | Quintasan, uploaded | 22:42 |
| Quintasan | \o/ | 22:42 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, is it ok now? | 22:44 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, why does pakcages need symbol files? | 22:45 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Did you change the debian/copyright? | 22:46 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, yup | 22:46 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: symbols track public functions exported by a library | 22:47 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, nice :-) | 22:47 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: If a public symbol disappears it's most likely to be BIC change | 22:47 |
| Quintasan | Like a certain POINT release of Qt | 22:47 |
| Quintasan | ... | 22:47 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, bic? | 22:48 |
| Quintasan | Binary InCompatible | 22:48 |
| rbelem | :-) | 22:48 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: There is still nothing in debian/copyright | 22:49 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, try w3m http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/revu1-incoming/share-like-connect-1108112354/share-like-connect-0.0+git20110811/debian/copyright | 22:49 |
| Quintasan | I'm either blind or it's not there | 22:50 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, weird o.O | 22:50 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, http://paste.kde.org/108643/ | 22:51 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, that's the contents | 22:51 |
| Quintasan | And that's wrong | 22:51 |
| Quintasan | grr | 22:51 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, why is that wrong? | 22:51 |
| Quintasan | Files: debian/* | 22:51 |
| Quintasan | Copyright: 2011 Michał Zając <quintasan@kubuntu.org> | 22:51 |
| Quintasan | License: GPL-2.0+ | 22:51 |
| Quintasan | Like that | 22:51 |
| Quintasan | You need to set copyright for debian/* there | 22:52 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, Ah! | 22:52 |
| Quintasan | Since you can decide to ship packaging on a different license | 22:52 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Once that's fixed I can ack | 22:52 |
| Quintasan | Well, changes to kdelibs look sane ScottK, but I'm not really a reliable code reviewer | 22:55 |
| Quintasan | dslogger: lp:~yofel/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs-active-4.7 if you find some time | 22:55 |
| Quintasan | debian/patches/kubuntu_mobile* | 22:56 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: The thing builds here, I didn't test it but I think yofel did | 22:56 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Well, that's all, when you are done with qtmobility I can review it as well | 22:58 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, the debian/* need the license like the others? | 23:02 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: That's up to you | 23:02 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: You are the packager, you decide on what license do you distribute your work :) | 23:03 |
| CIA-52 | [qapt] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20110811230456-h12zb9zh4bl8y9ij * debian/ (changelog libqapt1.install) New upstream release candidate | 23:05 |
| JontheEchidna | (catch-up on the last release, which I forgot to push to bzr) | 23:05 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, i mean the license below the License: GPL-2+ | 23:05 |
| Quintasan | Well, yeah | 23:06 |
| Quintasan | I think that's how dep-5 works | 23:06 |
| rbelem | oki | 23:06 |
| CIA-52 | [qapt] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20110811230752-0xzmt3fnkqcf6iu0 * debian/ (changelog control) rebuild against latest libapt | 23:07 |
| * Quintasan goes to bed | 23:08 | |
| JontheEchidna | (The Muon 1.2.0 release machine is chugging along, though) :) | 23:11 |
| Quintasan | brr | 23:13 |
| Quintasan | gles tomorrow | 23:13 |
| Quintasan | :S | 23:13 |
| Quintasan | Good night | 23:13 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, Quintasan uploaded | 23:14 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Okay, I still can't upload since kdelibs need code review | 23:14 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, oki | 23:14 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, i will finish qt mobility | 23:15 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, good night | 23:15 |
| rbelem | :-) | 23:15 |
| Quintasan | Groovy, I will review both tomorrow | 23:15 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, sleep tight | 23:15 |
| Quintasan | Or later today if it matters :P | 23:15 |
| rbelem | hahaha | 23:15 |
| DarkwingDuck | rekonq is ticking me off again. | 23:28 |
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