=== colin_ is now known as minerva === minerva is now known as colin_ === colin_ is now known as minerva [01:02] How do I stop windows for automattically expanding to fill the entire screen when I drag them to the edge/top of the screen? [01:02] from* [01:10] How do I stop windows from automattically expanding to fill the entire screen when I drag them to the edge/top of the screen? [01:11] System Settings -> Workspace Behavior -> Screen Edges -> [ ] Maximize windows by dragging them to the top of the screen [01:13] rww: Thanks === Dan`ka is now known as Dan`ka|sleep === _BS___ is now known as _BS_ === _BS_ is now known as Guest15149 [02:10] Can you add audio info to a CD that already has some on it, even if it has free space. I use a program called K3d... and Idk if you can. [02:11] (sorry the program is called K3b, not K3d lol. [02:52] I just finished a fresh Wubi install on my workstation. When I try to use a package manager, or apt-get, I get this error: Reading package lists... Error! [02:52] E: Encountered a section with no Package: header [02:52] does "sudo apt-get update" help? [02:53] I'm running it right now. I'll let you know in a few moments. [02:53] Reading package lists... Error! [02:53] E: Encountered a section with no Package: header [02:53] E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-amd64_Packages [02:53] E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. [02:53] corinth: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:53] (Sorry for the flood...whoops.) [02:54] still? ugh [02:54] one second [02:54] If I try to install a package (like, say, the Firefox installer, I get this error: [02:54] The package system could not be initialized, your configuration may be broken. Details: Encountered a section with no Package: header [02:55] change your mirror and retry [02:56] (System -> Software Management -> Settings -> Edit Origins -> Download from:) [02:56] How do I do that in KDE again? I'm used to Gnome. [02:57] Ah I found it, nevermind. [02:58] Alright. I switched mirrors, but it didn't help. [02:59] I've got to go for an hour. I'll come back, and hopefully we can figure it out then. [02:59] If you can think of anything, please message me. Thanks. [03:02] corinth: according to the Google, you can just delete the contents of /var/lib/apt/lists/. So try removing the mentioned file and apt-get update again === Terbaddo is now known as Terbaway [04:01] hi, i have a data DVD i burned back in the day and now im wanting to make a copy of it. can somebody point me to a program that will rip the DVD to a iso? the only thing google seems to show is how to rip music and video discs to extract their contents. i want to end up with an image that i can just toss on another dvd-r [04:02] Hey rww, I'll try what you suggested rght now [04:02] Can I just sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/ ? [04:04] corinth: I'd sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binary-amd64_Packages [04:05] rww: I just did that, but it said No such file or directory [04:05] did the filename change because you switched mirrors? [04:06] It's very possible. Let me check. [04:07] Yeah, it did change. I removed the file. I'll update again. [04:07] It still looks like it's having trouble, though. Would it help for me to pastebin the update text? [04:08] looks like k3b is able to create my .iso :) [04:09] You know what rww, I think this just has something to do with the package manager. Is there a way to reconfigure the package manager? [04:22] corinth: What's the problem? [04:22] My package manager hates me D: [04:23] :-o [04:23] apt-get install love --get-groove-with-it [04:23] Haha [04:23] I have a fresh Wubi install of Kubuntu natty, and the package manager isn't working. I get two types of errors. [04:24] pastebin please [04:26] Daskreech: http://pastebin.com/vT4cGUiQ [04:27] corinth: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list please [04:27] Daskreech: http://pastebin.com/bPaiB4vm [04:29] what does sudo apt-get update give you? [04:32] http://pastebin.com/dtkpPbWa [04:34] That's not comforting [04:34] :-P [04:35] It's alright. It's still vanilla. I'll just reinstall tomorrow when I get into the office. Hopefully it'll work this time. [04:35] Thanks anyway! [04:36] corinth: can you type bzip2 and tell me what it says? [04:36] Don't need to pastebin the gist would be good enough [04:37] bzip2: I won't write compressed data to a terminal. [04:37] bzip2: For help, type: `bzip2 --help'. [04:37] ok so bzip is installed [04:37] I gotta head home, though. Thanks for the A-effort. [04:37] Cya [04:38] OK === ranxerox is now known as RanXeroX [07:01] Hello, after yestardays update of flash, it's not working. I cant find libflashplugin.so anywhere [07:02] i installed the flash 11 beta 2 from adobe, so it's not a major problem [07:02] <- is on 64bit [07:13] PiotrN: it's not in the ~/.nsplugin or ~/.mozilla dir? [07:28] Daskreech: i have a libflashplugin, though and old one, but my firefox (from kubuntu repo) doesnt see plugins in user home directories, only those in /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins [07:28] i have it in ~/.mozilla/firefox/plugins [07:30] the file in /.mozilla/firefox/plugins i have copied there myself i believe some time ago when had other problems, libflashinstaller doesnt seem to put files in user dirs === fishwithapipe is now known as f|shy [08:15] Hi, what is a good Twitter app for Kubuntu? [08:17] calwig: choqok [08:17] !choqok [08:19] calwig: There's also the µblog widget for plasma, but it has an irritating bug. You need to type your password again every time you login. [08:21] whatever is easier [09:05] ok what now just loaded kubuntu is there any idea what can i do with kubuntu couldnt do with win 7? === davide_ is now known as Uninstall === prophet is now known as Guest39187 === root is now known as Onepamopa [09:17] anyone care to explain why removing mysql-server-core-5.1 also removes 50 additional packages, like: kubuntu-desktop kpackagekit and so forth ..? [09:35] mete_: You really have me thinking there. I'd say: 'scroll with the mouse on a window that doesn't have focus?' === yofel_ is now known as yofel [09:49] Onepamopa: It's required by Akonadi AFAIK [09:51] from #kubuntu-devel: it seems that now "sudo aptitude reinstall flashplugin-installer" will fix the missing flash problem after recent update [09:58] Quintasan: then why it removes all the other packages ? [09:58] it should only remove akonadi ? [09:59] Onepamopa: Akonadi is required for KDE? [09:59] nice one, and how about all of us that prefer to use percona-mysql-server/client-5.5 instead of oracle's mysql ? [09:59] it's an opensource distribution, we should be able to use the packages we want, right ? [10:01] Akonadi supports mysql, postgresql and sqlite. [10:01] I use postgresql [10:01] alvin: Is that somewhere near that percona stuff? [10:01] alvin: strange that akonadi didnt ask me what to use during installation [10:02] No idea [10:02] Quintasan: percona = drop-in replacement for mysql, fully compatible, but with extended features [10:02] we *should* be able to use it ... [10:03] Onepamopa: Not really strange. Imagine the complaints... [10:03] You probably are able to use it. [10:03] no, Im not [10:03] installing percona gives 10 trillion errors about mysql-server 5.1 already installed [10:04] removing mysql-server 5.1 removes everything *KDE* [10:04] It's possible that the packages conflict, yes. [10:04] let's see [10:04] Onepamopa: Where are those percona packages? I can't see them in archive? [10:04] Quintasan: percona have their own repository [10:04] why they werent included in ubuntu repository - I cant answer [10:04] percona is not in the default repositories [10:04] That means they might have did the packaging wrong way [10:05] In terms of conflicts,provides etc [10:05] Quintasan: interesting that this issue didnt happen @ 10.04 [10:05] ? [10:05] my 2nd laptop is running it @ the moment [10:06] I think that kde+mysql dependencies should be "reworked" a bit, to allow switch between mysql and percona [10:06] https://launchpad.net/~percona-team/+archive/ppa [10:06] This? [10:06] # Precona mysql (XtraDB) [10:06] deb http://repo.percona.com/apt lucid main [10:06] deb-src http://repo.percona.com/apt lucid main [10:06] how about this ? [10:06] Onepamopa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [10:07] trust me, the packages are done right, and they work [10:07] just not @ kubuntu 11.04 :) [10:07] Uhm, it's lucid [10:07] doesnt matter, if I remove kde* and install percona, it works fine [10:11] I asume that if I try to install kde back, it'll start screaming about mysql & percona [10:11] cause the packages "depend" on eachother [10:13] is there any way of making Akonadi to use sqlite or postgre (it didnt ask me about that during installation) [10:13] Onepamopa: Which packages did you install from percona repo? [10:13] if there is, then I'll then be able to remove mysql and install percona [10:13] Onepamopa: Just install them [10:13] Quintasan: packages percona-server-client-5.5 percona-server-common-5.5 percona-server-server-5.5 [10:14] I'll show u a pastebin in 2 min [10:14] lol @ Percona -> "This PPA does not contain any packages yet." [10:14] here ya go: http://pastebin.com/9sAjtKSv [10:14] "installed" ;) [10:15] it would be nice if the package manager had a "replace" function during package installation [10:16] Hmm [10:16] "Do you want to replace mysql-server-xx-xx-xx with percona-xx-xx-xx" y/N [10:16] ... [10:16] Onepamopa: you can use sqlite or postgres with, and only the mysql backend depends on myslq-server-5.1 [10:16] at least in oneiric [10:16] yofel: what do you mean ? [10:17] Onepamopa: akonadi-server [10:17] requires [10:17] Quintasan: thats what I asked - is there an option to change it so it'd use sqlite or posgre [10:17] (without reinstalling kubuntu) [10:17] akonadi-backend-mysql OR akonadi-backend-postgresql OR akonadi-backend-sqlite [10:18] install one of these [10:18] and it should work [10:18] w8 [10:18] E: Unable to locate package akonadi-backend-sqlite :) [10:18] Quintasan: he's using plain natty [10:18] Actually, I run postgresql as backend and doesn't have akonadi-backend-postgresql installed. So, what does the package actually provides? [10:18] Hmm [10:18] the backends are split in >= 1.6 [10:18] (*do not have) [10:19] It's akonadi 1.6.0 [10:19] alvin: a set of dependencies from what I see ^^ [10:19] otherwise empty [10:19] root@xgate:~# akonadictl --version [10:19] Akonadi 1.5.2 [10:19] Ah, I installed postgresql. Installed the backend only installed the package. Nothing changed. [10:19] Then, installing postgresql should work [10:20] let me try [10:20] Akonadi (well, virtuoso) is still eating my system resources. Nothing new there :-) [10:20] so, now installing postgresql.. I asume that akonadi will need it running ? (strange that it doesnt require mysql to be running, just installed) [10:21] vituoso isn't that bad these days, at least akonadi_nepomuk_email_feeder is *so* bad that virtuoso feels pretty lightweigth [10:21] Onepamopa: If you go the postgresql route, make sure you have standard_conforming_strings = on in /etc/postgresql/8.4/main/postgresql.conf [10:22] alvin: actually, problem remains.. [10:22] yofel: My load is 2 and Kontact is not even running. I suspect the problem is that I did a search in Kontact; There is a folder 'last searches' and it is probably being refreshed continually and draining system resources. Then again, it might be something else. I'm convinced the search isn't finished yet. I haven't found out how to search 1 folder only. [10:23] Onepamopa: if you install a newer akonadi version from backports you can remove mysql, but remember backports has kde 4.7 too [10:23] Onepamopa: What problem is that? Any output? [10:23] alvin: same as before - uninstalling mysql + 40 kde packages ;) [10:23] Onepamopa: kubuntu backports PPA I mean [10:23] oh, this is tarting to get so annoying [10:23] Onepamopa: right, you can't remoe mysql with natty's akonadi package, you need a newer one [10:24] this *is* fixed, but not in natty [10:24] yofel: wont installing new akonadi package install kde 4.7 ? [10:24] Onepamopa: Don't uninstall. Leave the dependencies as much as possible. If there is an error in packaging (depends should be recommends or something), file a bug. Worst case, you can always change the kubuntu-desktop package. [10:24] alvin: bug is already filed [10:25] but as I know, it'll take ~2-3 months for someone to actually commit it @ natty repo [10:25] ;) [10:25] Of course [10:25] Onepamopa: maybe you can carefully only pull in akonadi without the rest and later remove the PPA again, but I never tried that myself [10:25] yofel: any repository with new akonadi ? [10:26] Onepamopa: stand alone? not that I know of. I'm only maintaining the kubuntu repositories, and we only have akonadi bundled with the software that needs it [10:26] Onepamopa: Do you really need to have mysql removed? [10:26] alvin: not removed, replaced [10:27] there's difference :) [10:27] I'll still be using mysql, just not oracle one [10:27] Onepamopa: their package could 'Provide' mysql-server-core-5.1 and the problem would be solved too [10:27] Hmm, if you want to keep current versions, changing the dependencies of the akonadi package might work. [10:28] although that would be a bit of a hack [10:28] yofel: their package doesnt need to provide it, cause it's working as it is, and perfectly [10:28] every other application that I isntalled (and was depending on mysql) was working with percona installed @ the system [10:28] and wasnt screaming about dependencies [10:28] Onepamopa: well, there is no intention from our side to change the packaging layout for akonadi in natty, goes against the StableReleaseUpdates policy anyway [10:29] alvin: yes, but why then it didnt ask me what to use? mysql/sqlite/postgresql [10:29] it should have, but it didnt [10:29] it's fixed in backports PPA, experimental PPA and oneiric archive. END [10:29] yofel: provide a repository link to experimental for example [10:30] I think most users will not know what to answer, let alone set the correct options. [10:30] alvin: heh, it's 3 choices.. true that most of the users wont know what to answer, that's why 1 of the options could be left as default [10:30] Onepamopa: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/experimental use with care, that's where kdepim 4.7 is [10:31] yofel: any news on Krusader update? [10:31] Well, who knows what the future will bring. There are more and more desktop applications that need a database. Using 1 database and setting it in the installer is a dream, BUT it sounds like a buggy road. [10:32] szal: 2.4.0~beta1 is in oneiric, buy Quintasan a beer for it [10:32] heh, thx :) [10:32] yofel: strange is that this package requires on mysql that it's not necessery to be running, just installed [10:33] Onepamopa: akonadi runs a private instance of /usr/bin/mysqld with a per-user configuration [10:33] yofel: will it be propagated to kubuntu-backports (Natty)? [10:33] it doesn't need it to be running system wide, although one can set it up to do that [10:34] szal: if you want I can backport it [10:34] +1 for the backport of Krusader :-) [10:34] yofel: thanks, you're the MAN! http://pastebin.com/NCMqPkxX [10:34] :) [10:34] that's what Im talking about ) [10:35] yofel: or whatever repo contains KDE 4.7 for Natty ^^ .. I don't necessarily expect it to make it to the "standard" Kubuntu PPA; I'm just waiting for 4.7.1 to appear to finally upgrade here [10:35] yofel: apt-get upgrade akonadi then apt-get remove mysql-server-core-5.1 [10:35] worked like a charm [10:36] good [10:36] hm, something wrong again [10:38] done [10:38] mysql-server-core wasnt completely removed, but now it is [10:38] no more troubles [10:40] now let's see if cacti will still have dependency problems [10:41] Package virtual-mysql-client is a virtual package provided by: [10:41] percona-sql-client-5.0 5.0.92-b23.87.lucid [10:41] nice, virtual-mysql-client doesnt exist in 5.5 [10:42] szal: krusader uploaded to backports, ping me if something's broken that I didn't notice [10:44] yofel: thx, gonna look at it later today or tomorrow (needs to propagate to mirrors first, and I have to install it on my other machine where I already upgraded to 4.7) [10:44] sure [10:59] Yesterday akonadi_nepomuk_feeder ate my memory. I let it work for 14 hours and now mails are fetched. But today brings another resource hogging problem. virtuoso and nepomuk are fighting to gain control of all cores on my i5. Average load is above 5. [11:00] That's what I get for trying the expermental ppa of course, but what will Oneiric bring? Higher system requirements? [11:00] I might change to mutt. 'All mail clients sucks, but kmail sucks the life out of your workstation.' [11:04] alvin: ^^ Oneiric will be more stable once its released... you cant expect much more from a dev build [11:05] Well, actually I'm not complaining about stability. KDE 4.7 feels more stable. (akonadi crashes on logout, but that's it so far). I have found a lot of bugs in KDEPIM, but no crashes yet. Resource usage is extreme though. [11:05] The underlying Ubuntu natty is far mor unstable than the KDE part. [11:06] well, we'll have one of the kdepim devs take a look at oneiric somewhat soon, but kdepim 4.4 doesn't work right in O, so we don't have much of a choice [11:09] Well, it's about time too. The new kmail took a long time to release. We were left for a long time with our old bugs. [11:10] But still, I would like to know how to searh in only 1 single folder. [11:20] hiii [11:21] anybody know why knetworkmanager doesn't work with DSL [11:21] Good morning,i have a question there any system restore tool for kubuntu..i have fuckt up with my task manager nad some bar prblems...? [11:23] madd0x, no cursing here [11:24] madd0x: there are no global system restore tools ^^ if you tell us exxactly what went wrong we might be able to better help [11:26] Excuse me for cursing,i remove by mistake my task manager from my action bar,when i add it again evrything is difrent now...i cant add application on bar like i did before and when im adding em by right cklick from up they added automaticly ,so i cant choise the postion. [11:26] madd0x: you can move widgets around by opening the panel settings and draging them [11:27] you can also drag from the add widgets to the panel to position them [11:28] exacly when im draggin em they goes on the right side of bar...cant add em on my left side. [11:29] then open the panel settings and drag them [11:30] haha YES!finalyyyy!!thanks a lot evryone. [12:13] so, just upgraded to KDE SC 4.7.0 on natty via the backports ppa, unfortunately it seems to have broken moving emails via a rule with IMAP [12:14] moving mails manually between folders still works fine though [12:14] any suggestions? I was hoping that kontact/kmail would remain untouched in the upgrade as the new KDEPIM was not included === prophet is now known as Guest80823 [12:15] bluelightning: you could do a ppa-purge [12:16] sure, but if possible I'd rather not have to roll back completely to 4.6 [12:16] it's only a minor bug after all, but somewhat irritating [12:17] it's reporting "append completed" as the error; which AFAICT is a success message from the IMAP server (?) [12:25] actually it freezes when clicking Send on a message, too... so might have to purge :/ === Terbaway is now known as Terbaddo [12:59] bluelightning: Bug 81967 [12:59] Launchpad bug 81967 in vim-latexsuite (Ubuntu) "Please sync vim-latexsuite (universe) from unstable (main)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/81967 [12:59] ehm, I meant Bug Bug 819676 [12:59] Launchpad bug 819676 in kdepim (Ubuntu) "Missing required argument to Append command" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/819676 [13:02] alvin: seems not particularly helpful yet :/ [13:02] I'm trying to purge but now I have a completely broken system :( [13:02] Not yet, no :-) but you can now say: 'hey, me too!' [13:02] I moved my filters outside of Kontact to imapfilter after this bug. So now I can filter again. I also completely redid all Kontact settings. [13:03] and don't have the send error you now see. [13:03] alvin: imapfilter? how does that work? [13:04] It's a little program (imapfilter). You write a config.lua file that isn't too hard to understand and well documented, then let it run every 10 minutes. [13:05] It can move mails between accounts, or mark them as read, and so on. It fits my needs. [13:07] hey [13:08] hi === Dan`ka|sleep is now known as Dan`ka [13:08] i need help installing phpMyadmin on my system [13:08] I am currently using ubuntu 10.04 [13:09] Bazhang...can you be a help on that....mate? [13:10] yuvi_: it would help if you describe what problem you have having with its installtion [13:10] sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin <--- yuvi_ [13:11] mate...i have almost reached the page on phpMyadmin but it seems the root password i provided works no longer and i can not get in [13:12] * James147 notes its the root password for mysql not you computer [13:13] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset << to reset the mysql password [13:13] yeaf offcourse ... but the password i set as mysql server password does not work [13:14] thanks james.... let me try the link [13:15] mate....is there a way...i can check whether my mysql server is up and running? [13:16] service mysqld status [13:16] s/mysqld/mysql ^^ [13:16] what shalll i do with that? [13:16] type it in konsole [13:17] konsole?? is it similar to terminal? [13:18] yes [13:18] its kdes terminal emulator [13:18] how do i reach it? [13:19] james?? [13:20] they same way you reach any program? [13:20] it says there is no such file or directory ..... what does that mean ? [13:22] my php and apache are working fine...i am sure of it... else.... the main problem i face is the installlation of mysql server [13:22] please help?? am new to linux...! [13:23] when your doing what? [13:23] !doesntwork [13:23] Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too. [13:24] just help me install mysql sever on my system...what is the easiest way? [13:24] yuvi_: sudo apt-get install mysql-server [13:24] Alt+F2 then "konsole" [13:26] james: its asking for password? [13:26] lol. 'Does it sit on the couch all day'. I'm gonna use that question a lot in the near future :-) [13:27] james147:which password should i provide? [13:27] yuvi_: then type in your users password [13:27] ok [13:28] * James147 suggests learning the basic linux commands ^^ [13:28] its working... [13:28] what next ?? am i done? [13:29] yeah... that will have installed mysql if it wasnt already [13:30] thanks a ton james147..... what shall i do next?.... cause i want to edit sql files?? should i get phpMyadmin or there is some easy way of doing it? [13:31] hi poeple... i justinstalled ufw (ubuntu firewall) I use kubuntu but for some reason it won#t start automatically? what's the easiest way to enforce this behaviour? [13:31] why do you need mysql to edit sql files? [13:31] and what should be the "default" behaviour? [13:32] you tell ?? what shall i do?? [13:32] just help me edit my sql dump ...the easiest way possible? [13:32] yuvi_: I dont know what your trying to do... but if you dont know how to use mysql then I suggest you start reading [13:33] howlymowly: you should add it into the 'startup programs' which be found in system settings -> startup and shutdown [13:33] Linkmaster: my problem is: I can not do that, because ufw seems to require root rights to be started... [13:33] Linkmaster: I dint think so... ufw is a system service and needs to be started by the init system [13:34] Oh [13:34] Well, I was taking a slight guess, if its root, either use 'kdesudo' or take James's advice and use the init system [13:35] well. how do I use the init system then :)? [13:35] ^^ start it with "sudo service ufw start" ... or read about run levels in ubuntu to find out how to do it automatically (I cant remember off hand how it works in ubuntu anymore :p ) [13:35] I'm really questioning the whole akonadi thing. It looks like a great idea, but we're just not ready for it yet. Computers aren't fast enough. Maybe in a few years we'll have hardware that can keep up. There must have been quite some research on the 'semantic desktop' part too, but I still don't get it. [13:35] James147: will ufw then start by default the next time I reboot my computer? [13:36] james?? [13:36] howlymowly: not with services uft start (it only starts it once) [13:36] James147: ubuntu doesn't has runlevels anymore :-) And, howlymowly: ufw will start automatically if it is enabled. [13:36] alvin: ahh.. thx. didn't know that [13:36] ufw status will tell you if it is. [13:37] please help ?? i have to edit sql dump? how to do that ? [13:38] open a text editor and start editing... [13:38] and then? [13:39] yuvi_: not something I can tell you as I DO NOT know what you are doing [13:40] i need a programme to edit sql dump? any of them..either a phpMyadmin or sql gui..? anything you can help me install and runnning on my pc? [13:40] yuvi_: mysql dumps are plain text files as far as I know... so and text editor should do [13:41] Is there an official method for disabling dhcp on eth0 and setting a static IP address that does not include editing /etc/networking/interfaces ? [13:41] crowbar: network manager should be able to do that... [13:42] No, it lets me set a manual connection with a static IP, but when the machine boots it still uses DHCP. I cannot set the manual conection as the "System connection" as the checkbox is grayed out because NetworkManager applet on kde doesn't implement it. [13:42] * James147 it does in kde 4.7 [13:42] Where/What file(s) does Kubuntu 11.04 store network-manager information? [13:43] crowbar: the only other way is with the inerfaces file [13:43] ...you right james.... they are text files only.... but using a proper editor helps me edit the values ..directly [13:43] is there a way i can get phpMyadmin up and running??? [13:43] yuvi_: well then good luck finding one... [13:44] please anyone?? [13:45] crowbar: I have another strange problem - wireless set to DHCP somehow picks up an old manual setting and seems to give the if 2 ip4 numbers! [13:45] * James147 has already given you the infomation needed by what you have told us [13:45] help me setup phpMyadmin?? [13:46] crowbar: Why would you not use the interfaces file? [13:46] alvin: because kde claims to have a GUI for it? [13:46] crowbar: it does in 4.7 ^^ [13:47] alvin?? james?? anyone.....please help [13:47] Oh, that. KDE also claims it will use max 50MB of ram for nepomuk, while the reality is more like 4GB. :-) [13:48] crowbar: Think about it the other way. Where would you rather set your network settings? In an easily to edit config file, or in a program that depends on a GUI? I don't mind the GUI, but it shouldn't be the only method. [13:50] crowbar: you should be able to do it in networkmanager-kde but otherwise try installing WICD [13:51] note wicd does not support vpn, mobile modems etc... at least not last time I used it [13:52] alvin: You don't have to sell me on using interfaces. kubuntu shipped a gui that doesn't work. wicd also had the same problem of letting dhcp run first. i could manually switch to my static IP. And the bonus on that was it killed plasma when the new IP was set. [13:56] Well, I can understand the expectation that it should work (maybe it does, I can't use it because I some settings that networkmanager nor wicd support). On the other hand, a lot of GNU/Linux distributions have been shipping unfinished software for the past years. Networkmanager is but one example. There's also Upstart, nepomuk, pulseaudio,... Most of these programs replace perfectly working systems. I still don't really know what to do [13:56] with this trend. You could use something like Debian stable, but miss out on some interesting new stuff. I don't think debian has networkmanager, but the interfaces file is well documented in their documentation. [13:56] It'll be interesting to see what Wayland will do. [14:01] crowbar: you sure about wicd? As I can recall it you can set the default wired configuration you want it to use [14:06] anyone know of a way to completely remove ubuntu desktop from my computer? [14:07] i don't really want to go through kpackagekit and delete all the left over packages it leaves when you just remove ubuntu-desktop [14:08] !purekde | raevin [14:08] raevin: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » [14:09] Thanks ubottu & bazhang [14:09] !ubottu [14:09] Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots [14:09] one of us is a bot [14:10] also that page hasnt been updated in a while :S === gigi is now known as Guest88364 [14:10] bazhang: i know, but still :D he's so underappreciated in this channel. [14:11] James147: it still works, at least for the most part, lol [14:11] raevin: "for the most part" ^^ so I thought I would point it out :) [14:12] James147: I appreciate it :D but, at the least its a start into the world of removing Ma...Gnome from my computer :D [14:30] I wanted to subscribe to a bug about akonadi/strigi/nepomuk/virtuoso resource hogging, but there are too many bug reports about that and I can't choose. [14:30] and thinking I wanted to install Kmail on my N900. It'll probably kill the poor little device. [14:31] There must be some solution [14:34] hi [14:34] is this teh kubuntu channel? [14:35] corbachini33, yes [14:35] finally... xD [14:35] I wanted to install kubuntu on my pc [14:35] try /topic [14:35] but I dont now if it supports it [14:35] what specs corbachini33 [14:36] One moment please.. [14:39] AMD ATHlon 1600+, MMX, 3DNow, 1.4GHz [14:39] RAM: 1024 [14:39] wireless: Conceptronic 54g wirelless PCI Card [14:39] harddrive: MAXTOR STM3160215A [14:39] CD: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H42N [14:39] corbachini33: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [14:40] AMD ATHlon 1600+, MMX, 3DNow, 1.4GHz [14:40] RAM: 1024 [14:40] wireless: Conceptronic 54g wirelless PCI Card [14:40] harddrive: MAXTOR STM3160215A [14:40] CD: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H42N [14:40] corbachini33: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [14:40] did you receive the info? [14:40] sure [14:40] next time use paste.ubuntu.com please [14:41] ok thanks :D I wasnt sure i got muted two tiems... [14:41]