[00:23] <popey> technoviking: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1440332
[00:23] <popey> lolwut
[00:24] <popey> "Ubuntu Lucid Lynx is in development, use only for testing purposes!!!"
[00:24]  * nigelb sees a case of http://xkcd.com/386/
[00:24]  * popey goes to bed to avoid this minor detail
[00:25] <nigelb> of course, I hven't slept all night, but that's differnt.
[00:25] <paultag> nigelb: snorting instant coffee?
[00:26] <nigelb> paultag: sick. slept during day. Now I can't sleep.
[00:27] <paultag> nigelb: should have snorted instant coffee
[00:27] <nigelb> I haven't eaten properly all day.
[00:28] <paultag> coffee helps
[00:38] <cjohnston> so nigelb should review mp's
[08:10] <kim0> Morning everyone
[08:52] <duanedesign> hello kim0
[08:52] <kim0> duanedesign: hey there
[10:36] <kim0> daker: Hi there, are you still working on phpbb formula ? if not, please unassign it
[12:34] <paultag> another day, another day.
[12:35] <mhall119> paultag: subtle change to readfeeder.net last night
[12:35] <paultag> mhall119: oh?
[13:04] <czajkowski> hmm not sure having that burger before job interview was wise
[13:04] <czajkowski> need to find some after diner mints now
[13:05] <Pendulum> czajkowski: I did that once. But I think I'd remembered to bring mints or mint gum or something with me
[13:06] <czajkowski> chicken burger coverred in pesto
[13:06] <paultag> ouchie
[13:06] <Pendulum> yum
[13:06] <Pendulum> but yeah, ouch on breath
[13:07] <czajkowski> am well early it's only after 2 interview at 3:30 was paranoid in case of riots and trafic
[13:07] <paultag> Oh, haha, right London riots
[13:07] <paultag> czajkowski: you're not out fighting the power?
[13:07] <paultag> riots are always a good way to keep goverments in check
[13:07] <czajkowski> no only thugs and knackers out there
[13:08] <czajkowski> not these kind. just looting fornthe sake of looting
[13:08] <paultag> london calling :)
[13:08] <paultag> czajkowski: damn. They should be going around breaking CCTV cameras
[13:08] <czajkowski> absolutely no tolerance for that kind of thuggery
[13:08] <czajkowski> grr    /ignore paultag
[13:08] <paultag> czajkowski: what?
[13:09] <paultag> czajkowski: you like being watched all the time?
[13:09] <paultag> the brittish goverment is a bit crazy, just like the US goverment
[13:09] <paultag> sometimes a little riot keeps things from getting too out of hand
[13:09] <czajkowski> paultag: do you know why there are riots going on over here
[13:09] <paultag> czajkowski: nope, not paying attention to any of it. I'm sure it's because someone got shot or some bullshit reason
[13:09] <paultag> but it never matters :)
[13:10] <paultag> people will riot if they want to riot regardless
[13:10] <czajkowski> paultag: you are talking shite.
[13:10] <paultag> mkay
[13:10] <czajkowski> innocent peoplehave been killed and others injured over this.
[13:11] <paultag> and that's a shame. I'm not advocating what they're doing directly
[13:11] <paultag> just saying that goverments should be scared of their people
[13:11] <paultag> not the other way around
[13:12] <Pici> From what I've gathered they're no longer rioting due to any particular reason.
[13:12] <paultag> Pici: that's how it always goes :)
[13:12] <Pici> And is not like they're directing their anger at the government, they're destroying their fellow citizens homes and businesses.
[13:13] <paultag> Pici: again, not advocating what they're doing directly
[13:13] <paultag> what they're doing kinda sucks
[13:13] <paultag> but the idea that people have the balls to stand up to their goverment rules
[13:13] <paultag> so that's how I like to see it, even if it's not true
[13:15] <czajkowski> paultag: its not true at all, thry are not even standimg up to thr government justnran sacking places for nonreason othern than theybwant  new tv or phone
[13:16] <paultag> I don't think you're reading what I'm saying :)
[13:16] <paultag> I like the idea of rioting
[15:00]  * duanedesign waves at paultag 
[15:00] <paultag> duanedesign: heyya man
[15:04] <AlanBell> the rioting is utterly without merit, just vandalism
[15:05] <paultag> duanedesign: how've you been?
[15:08]  * nigelb waves!
[15:08] <nigelb> How's everyone
[15:08] <duanedesign> paultag: doing pretty good. Counting the days till I get my new laptop.
[15:08] <duanedesign> hello nigelb
[15:08] <nigelb> duanedesign: mac? ;)
[15:09] <duanedesign> ha!
[15:09] <duanedesign> :)
[15:09] <nigelb> Well, its worth buying for the hardware, tbh.
[15:10] <duanedesign> AFter reading all the latest about the apple lawsuits trying to squash Android it would be hard for me to buy from apple
[15:10] <duanedesign> nigelb: i agreee. I used macs exclusively for years, until I started using Linux
[15:10] <nigelb> The next best is probably Thinkpad
[15:10] <duanedesign> nigelb: yeah, that is what i ordered
[15:11] <nigelb> duanedesign: hehe :D
[15:11] <duanedesign> almost got a System76 it was close
[15:11] <paultag> duanedesign: nice :)
[15:11] <head_victim> The system76's look nice, wish they posted over here to AU
[15:12] <head_victim> I got a little look from an overseas visitor
[15:14] <duanedesign> the system76 has the hard drive caddy option which would be awesome.
[15:17] <nigelb> paultag: Someone on the local python mailing list wants to write an operating system in python.
[15:17] <nigelb> I'm still laughing
[15:18] <paultag> nigelb: I came ->||<- this close to actually doing that
[15:18] <nigelb> paultag: guess what the first reply is?
[15:18] <paultag> nigelb: I figured out a way to do it, and had the chance to do it for school credit
[15:18] <paultag> nigelb: what?
[15:18] <nigelb> "Why are you not doing it in ruby?"
[15:18] <paultag> haha
[15:19] <paultag> nigelb: but yeah, it's actually doable
[15:19] <paultag> nigelb: the kernel anyway
[15:19] <nigelb> I know people who've done filesystems in python
[15:19] <paultag> and I think if you get the kernel right, you should be able to layer pyPy over it
[15:19] <nigelb> Not the entire OS though.
[15:19] <paultag> nigelb: well there's a line
[15:20] <paultag> nigelb: because python can't be run on the CPU you need to port the runtime to a kernelspace tool
[15:20] <paultag> nigelb: but you can do stuff like the implementation of malloc etc in Python
[15:20] <paultag> so it's really a layered design with kernel-level priv'd python
[15:21] <paultag> ended up writing the kernel in asm + c insted
[15:21] <paultag> I'm lame I know
[15:22] <nigelb> dude, you got a computer/machine to boot with a kernel you wrote. That is *NOT* lame.
[15:22] <paultag> yeah, but it's so traditional ;)
[15:23] <nigelb> paultag: Honestly, I prefer traditional and stable over new and breaking in unknown ways.
[15:24] <nigelb> I still love postgres/mysql over nosql.
[15:24] <paultag> nigelb: then you use BSD :)
[15:24] <paultag> nigelb: no reason to write a new kernel if you don't want new and brekey
[16:26]  * pleia2 makes toast with jam for breakfast, because of randall's blog posts
[16:26] <pleia2> such yummy jam pictures
[16:26] <mhall119> paultag: have you looked at Singularity?
[17:00] <paultag> mhall119: yeah
[17:00] <paultag> mhall119: it's cute
[17:00] <paultag> but nothing else
[17:00] <paultag> and MS, so short-sighted :)
[17:06] <mhall119> the fact that the kernel is mostly written in a bytecode language was interesting
[17:06] <mhall119> I couldn't ever get it to run though
[17:08] <mhall119> they had disabled a part of the kernel needed to boot it up in virtualbox, and I couldn't re-compile the Sing# files in Mono to re-enable it
[23:27] <duanedesign> Joeb454: the Ubuntu Beginners TEam is having a meeting in 35 minutes. If you caould stop by i think some of the ideas reached beteen you and coproffit are beind discussed. We are wirjubf ib streamilining the procrss considerable
[23:27] <duanedesign> soeer Joeb454
[23:28] <duanedesign> wrong ping
[23:30] <duanedesign> really anyone in the community er eat to be at the meeting to make sure we develop a roadmao that bes serves everyteam in the community