=== asac_ is now known as asac [02:56] Gotta love the reason for current images failing to build. :) [02:57] Hrm ok I misread, thats only for syncing to mirror. [04:28] Ok. New weekend task. Blow away my ati desktop and reinstall so it doesn't take upwards of 4 hours to update before I can try a new -ati DDX. [04:32] lol [04:32] And yay the joys of Australian internets. [05:39] fg [05:39] opps === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [07:07] Good morning [07:18] GNROGNHNGH. Uptime: 6h2m. dist-upgrade: still incomplete. [08:00] morning [09:12] chrisccoulson, yes, I'd love to help design a calendar app. Why do you ask? :-) === Zdra is now known as xclaesse [09:47] pitti, cjwatson: do you know why my upload of nvidia-graphics-drivers-96 in natty-proposed was rejected? [09:47] tseliot: RAOF said the reason in the corresponding bug report [09:47] missing bug ref and two unapproved uploads with different contents or so [09:47] let me check [09:49] pitti: oh, so if I upload ~natty1 my upload won't fail? [09:49] yes [09:49] ok, good [09:53] pitti, good morning, do you know what is up with libreoffice 3.4.x? [09:55] tkamppeter, so, colord is in main now, or not yet? [09:56] ricotz: I don't know; question for Sweetshark [09:57] rodrigo_: not yet apparently [09:57] pitti, ok [09:57] rodrigo_: waiting for security review, see bug 823185 [09:57] Launchpad bug 823185 in colord "[MIR] colord" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/823185 [09:57] pitti, ok thanks [09:57] pitti: can I rebuild the source with -S or do I also need "-sa" in this case? [09:58] pitti, ok, i hope FF wont prevent this update [09:58] tseliot: depends on whether the same orig.tar.gz is already published in -updates or oneiric [09:59] pitti: no, it was only there in my rejected uploads [09:59] tseliot: then you need -sa again [09:59] pitti: ok === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [10:10] rodrigo_, pitti, colord is in the MIR process waiting for kees to security-check it, waiting in the queue of security check, delaying the departure of Oneiric ... [10:20] tkamppeter, right [10:20] brb [10:30] rodrigo_: ping, looks like GS needs a rebuild against the latest gnome-power-manager [10:38] hey [10:38] back from desktop summit! [10:38] how is everybody doing? [10:38] ready for ff? ;-) [10:39] ff? [10:39] Oh, feature freeze [10:39] * cdbs thought Follow Friday, too much social networking :D [10:40] guys, i would like to unseed ubuntuone-client-gnome temporary, we have some FF related work to do in armel that requires working images and that package was removed from the archive it seems [10:40] so it makes image builds fail ... [10:40] ogra_, check with dobey I guess [10:41] dobey, ^^^ [10:42] i'll happily re-add it once i have a working image indeed, should just be short [10:46] seb128: I saw you changed recommends of lightdm. Now I had lightdm-gtk-greeter installed, and it got auto removed by the upgrade. Shouldn't lightdm-greeter be a depend instead of recommend ? [10:46] dupondje, did you get unity-greeter installed instead? why should it be removed if nothing conflicts with it? [10:47] dupondje, no, lightdm can be using on a system without a greeter connection on xdmcp or vnc or whatever [10:47] connecting [10:48] nothing else got installed :) but lightdm-gtk-greeter was marked autoinstalled I guess [10:50] so it's not on the upgrade which it go remove but you ran autoremove? [10:50] the autoinstalled packages are not removed automatically on upgrade [10:51] cdbs, GS, g-shell? g-screensaver? [10:51] pitti, do you know of any reason why we haven't updated gnome-icon-theme to latest 3.1.x? [10:51] seems I was talking alone :) [10:51] rodrigo_: Gnome-shell [10:52] cdbs, I think I don't have permissions to do an upload, as it's in universe, trying [10:52] rodrigo_: I'm not very sure [10:52] rodrigo_: Shell is written in JS, right? [10:52] rodrigo_: A rebuild won't help then, I guess? [10:52] cdbs, hmm, what's the failure/error you're getting? [10:53] rodrigo_: It seems like Shell doesn't start up gnome-power-manager [10:53] rodrigo_: and hence there's no battery indicator up there [10:53] not an issue under Unity though [10:53] ok, I guess it needs to use the new dbus interface name, as it was moved to g-s-d [10:53] * rodrigo_ looks [10:54] yeah, that might make more sense [10:54] I tried hooking up my head inside the GS code but didn't find it well [10:55] cdbs, ok, in git it's fixed, so we should probably upgrade to 3.1.4 [10:55] rodrigo_: Do you want to go ahead or I'll upgrade? [10:55] * cdbs has upload rights to universe [11:00] I'll also push to the GS branch [11:03] rodrigo_, hey [11:03] rodrigo_, no reason to not update g-i-t, it was just low priority, pitti is not the maintainer for it nor work on it usually, he just did the hacking to win CD space [11:05] cdbs, ah, if you have upload rights, go ahead [11:06] seb128, right, was asking pitti because I thought you were on the crappy wifi still :) [11:06] seb128, I am having problems with some icons in gnome-shell, so I guess it's because of carrying an old version, not sure [11:06] rodrigo_, no, I'm just back from summit [11:07] ok [11:07] seb128, ah cool, how was it? [11:07] rodrigo_, well let's see that after feature freeze tomorrow [11:07] today we need to land features :p [11:07] summit was quite nice ;-) [11:07] hum, lunch is ready back in a bit === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [11:36] hmm, how does useradd match the 'wheel' group to 'admin' group? [11:42] rodrigo_, what do you mean? [11:42] rodrigo_, or rather what do you try to figure or do? [11:42] seb128, accountsservice calls useradd -G wheel ... and that creates the user in group admin [11:42] rodrigo_, we patch accountsservice to use admin and to call adduser if that's your question [11:43] rodrigo_, no, we distro patch that out [11:43] yes, I've seen it's all patched now [11:43] so, what else is missing for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/810907 ? [11:43] Ubuntu bug 810907 in gnome-control-center "User Accounts profiles need to be updated for Ubuntu" [High,Confirmed] [11:43] rodrigo_, see the comments I referred to there [11:43] seb128, ok, and where are those profiles? [11:44] rodrigo_, well that I don't know if there are "profiles" [11:44] there are not, in accountsservice at least [11:44] rodrigo_, it's just that creating an admin user in the user account should add an user which is member of admin adm lpadmin etc [11:45] not sure where is the different between normal users and admin users set [11:45] it might just be hardcoded in accountsserice [11:45] service [11:45] it's hardcoded [11:45] the title is misleading then [11:45] an enum determines what user to create [11:45] rather than profile it should say "admin users should be member of those groups as well: ..." [11:46] does that make sense? [11:46] so, we have a patch to add the admin users to admin group only, although it's not enabled, as it's synced from debian where they have a different patch [11:46] rodrigo_, btw I opened https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=655915 about that but got no comment [11:46] Gnome bug 655915 in User Accounts "Should have a way to define the admin profile groups" [Normal,New] [11:47] right, I was thinking about that, too late I guess for 3.2, but I'll talk with mclasen [11:47] g-c-c might not be the right place, I guess the redhat guys will close it saying that they don't want that or something [11:47] thanks [11:50] rodrigo_, how is the g-c-c g-s-d colord thing going? [11:50] seb128, just waiting for the mir to be accepted, already have a package built here [11:50] will upload it as soon as the mir is accepted [11:50] it's blocked on security-review [11:53] rodrigo_, we should perhaps do it the other way around [11:53] upload so it's in before the freeze and see with security then [11:53] ok [11:53] let's check when pitti when he's back from lunch [11:53] I'll do another build and upload [11:54] ah ok, I'll wait [12:01] guys I'm seeing like a 15-20 second delay between logging in and seeing unity on oneiric I grabbed a bootchart for it http://ubuntuone.com/p/19iO/ is there something up here others have the issue too [12:06] cdbs, ah, didn't know you were bilal :) [12:06] rodrigo_: :) [12:06] it confuses many people [12:07] rodrigo_: I guess just nobody got around to updating g-icon-theme [12:07] rodrigo_: as for shell, I've backported the patch and uploaded it for now [12:07] rodrigo_: since GS 3.1.4 needs new clutter and new gjs [12:07] rodrigo_: I'll update gjs soon, but can't do clutter for now [12:09] cdbs, clutter will need cogl [12:09] cdbs, ok, cool! [12:09] ricotz has been working on those in the debian svn [12:09] hmm [12:09] those -> cogl and new clutter [12:09] he has a ppa as well [12:19] ok, lunch time, bbl [12:43] ogra_: that's fine [12:44] dobey, i already uploaded the change, feel free to hunt me down to put it back if its back [12:46] hopefully can get that in today [12:47] pitti, would be nice if dh_translations had domain and use_intltool command line options ;-) [12:48] pitti, the current version breaks on packages building out of the srcdir [12:48] pitti, like packages doing multibuilds [12:48] since there is no Makefile in po dir which it's looking for it [12:49] that sounds like a nice addition indeed [12:55] wow, today is going really well. having just had X crash during the middle of a big upload, then 2 consecutive hard freezes, gtk-window-decorator crashed within a few seconds of me logging back in again, and i ended up with the decorations on the wrong windows again :/ [12:55] my computer hates me today! === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [12:57] chrisccoulson, it's because you make it build firefox all day [12:57] I would hate you as well if you made me build that: p [12:57] heh [12:57] pitti, sorry got a dsl reconnect, did you get what I was saying about dh_translations? [12:58] seb128: yes, I said it would be a nice addition [12:58] pitti, the current version breaks on packages building out of the srcdir [12:58] pitti, like packages doing multibuilds [12:58] since there is no Makefile in po dir which it's looking for it [12:58] pitti, ^ those lines as well? [12:59] I'm wondering if it would make sense to try to use the "source" files rather [12:59] i.e configure.ac,in and Makefile.in.in [12:59] that would make the multibuild case work out of the box [13:00] seb128: ah, po/Makefile.in.in? I thought the domain wasn't in there [13:00] pitti, no, that's why I said "configure.ac,.in" [13:01] but well that need some thinking, not for today [13:01] I will fix the indicator stack by calling intltool-update by hand in the rules [13:01] kenvandine, hey [13:01] hey seb128 [13:01] libindicate is in NEW [13:01] kenvandine, if you upload indicators please add a cd po: intltool-update --pot [13:02] or intltool-update --pot --verbose [13:02] :->; was well [13:02] in the rules? [13:02] "cd po; intltool-update --pot --verbose " [13:02] yes [13:02] ok [13:02] kenvandine, the multibuild broke dh_translations [13:02] it's looking for po/Makefile [13:02] but it's build//Makefile [13:03] right [13:03] I was discussing with pitti fixing that but meanwhile I think we should get the indicators translated and not block on dh_translations to get smarter [13:03] kenvandine, checking libindicator, you landed the soname break after all then? [13:04] libindicate [13:04] libindicate [13:04] yes [13:04] the soname change was just for -gtk [13:04] yeah sorry, I will never got those names right I think :p [13:04] so only a couple things are affected [13:04] i am barely starting to :) [13:04] however, there was a .pc file rename... for libindicate [13:04] so other things that build dep on it will FTBFS [13:05] but that can be fixed as we hit them [13:05] or next week [13:05] hum [13:06] kenvandine, you better not break the unity builds, didrocks is on holidays starting tomorrow evening ;-) [13:06] hehe [13:06] why do people rush all the breakages for the ff day? [13:06] none of the unity stuff will be affected by the soname change [13:06] maybe the .pc file rename [13:06] they should not right [13:07] they don't depend on it [13:07] ok [13:07] the -gtk soname change had to happen.. the namespace fixes where all wrapped up in the gtk3 port [13:08] i also uploaded fixes for pidgin-libnotify and liferea [13:08] for indicate-gtk fixes [13:09] the only other package is openfetion [13:09] which i have never even heard of [13:09] but i'll fix that too [13:10] kenvandine, newed [13:10] thx [13:10] ok [13:10] pitti, btw do you have any opinion on landing a gnome-control-center with the build-depends on colord now (i.e before having the mir appoved)? [13:11] seb128: can do, but that will go to depwait? [13:13] pitti, right [13:13] pitti, but it would quality as "landing before freeze" still right? ;-) [13:13] seb128, packages that are synced from debian, they get rebuilt for ubuntu right? [13:13] just the sources are synced... right? [13:14] openfetion wouldn't have built with the old libindicate either [13:15] kenvandine, correct [13:15] weird [13:15] why? [13:15] hey mterry [13:15] i guess the indicate.pc -> indicate-0.5.pc change happened since may :) [13:16] good morning mterry [13:16] seb128, kenvandine: hi! [13:16] happy FF day! [13:16] ;-) [13:16] yay.. [13:16] seb128, so i am not going to fix it right now [13:16] rodrigo_, ok, just upload your g-c-c which uses colord [13:16] it hasn't been buildable in a while [13:16] so we can say it landed before the freeze and blame it on the security team slacking on reviews ;-) [13:16] so who knows what other problems i might hit [13:17] haha [13:17] kenvandine, don't bother with universe for now [13:17] yeah... /me moves on [13:17] kenvandine, get the feature work done, we can fix side packages later [13:17] i have 2 features i desperately want to finish in gwibber today :) === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [13:27] kenvandine: FF-FML day :) [13:42] seb128: seeing as liboauth should be fixed now, I'd upload evolution-data-server with goa enabled [13:43] we'll just need to ping the security team to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/liboauth/+bug/808765 again [13:43] Ubuntu bug 808765 in liboauth "[MIR] liboauth" [Undecided,New] [13:45] cyphermox, thanks, please do the upload [13:46] cyphermox, if you upload evolution can you add Unity to the calendar reminder autostart desktop? [13:46] seems mterry overlooked that one [13:46] I just noticed this week because I didn't get the meeting reminder and looked at why [13:46] ah, you mean the OnlyShowIn? [13:46] sure [13:48] RAOF, bryceh: can you please clean up the WIs on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-xorg-tools-and-processes and postpone the ones which won't land in oneiric? i suppose we won't get all 20 open items in oneiric, and I understood it a catch-all for "nice to have" stuff [13:51] seb128, uploading also g-s-d, ok? [13:51] oh, but we also need a more recent version of gnome-color-manager [13:51] rodrigo_, yes [13:52] since we sync from debian, I'll write a patch for the debian one [13:52] rodrigo_, is g-c-m required for g-c-c to work? [13:54] seb128, for the calibration, yes [13:54] I was thinking on adding a 'suggests' [13:54] hum [13:54] rodrigo_, let's say it differently [13:55] is g-c-c and g-s-d color management of any use without g-c-m? [13:55] rodrigo_, we area already late to turn those one, if we need to start writing a mir, having it reviewed, updating g-c-m etc today that will not work well [13:56] I guess it is, you can still select a profile for the devices [13:56] let me check with hughsie [13:56] ok, let's turn those on [13:56] oh, not around :( [13:56] we can turn them off again next week if that turns out it's not working as we want [13:56] we can try to do a better job next cycle if that's the case [13:56] yeah [13:58] ok, uploading them now, then back to finishing gnome-contacts packaging [13:58] although we don't want g-contacts in main, right? [13:59] seb128, which did I overlook? [13:59] oh, evolution [13:59] meh, not on the CD anymore :) [14:00] mterry, ;-) [14:00] heh [14:00] oh [14:00] that will be yet another issue, just noticed [14:00] * chrisccoulson hides [14:00] no calendar notifications [14:00] the service is in evolution not e-d-s [14:00] that sucks [14:01] ouch, that does suck ;) [14:01] so if i write a calendar app, i'm going to have to do my own notifications? :/ [14:02] well maybe that should be done in the indicator [14:03] yeah, possibly [14:03] seb128, it's in evolution-alarm-notify, I thought that was on e-d-s [14:03] * rodrigo_ checks [14:03] evolution: /etc/xdg/autostart/evolution-alarm-notify.desktop [14:03] libevolution: /usr/lib/evolution/3.2/evolution-alarm-notify [14:03] rodrigo_, ^ [14:03] right [14:04] well those who use a calendar will probably install evolution still I guess [14:04] oh, right, it uses some of the widgets in evolution, afair [14:04] yeah, we don't want to pull in libevolution [14:04] that's basically the rest of evo ;) [14:05] chrisccoulson, or maybe we do want to pull it and kick tb out :p [14:05] but well, jasoncwarner_ overruled us on that :p [14:05] even if we miss a calendar UI? [14:05] ;) [14:06] rodrigo_, yes [14:06] and event alarms now :) [14:06] I told him that if I start to miss the team meetings from now on that's his fault ;-) [14:06] right, good excuse to force evo back :) [14:07] I'll keep using evolution though, not because I don't like tb, but for emotional reasons :) [14:07] arrrrgh, please stop crashing gtk-window-decorator [14:07] s/emotional/sentimental [14:07] let's see, [14:08] I like evo better still but the current version is crap [14:08] like it segfaults at start if I don't run it in gdb [14:08] and the calendar is really slow [14:08] yes, 3.1 has some problems for me also, like getting the mail preview stuck on a spam mail even though you've moved to another mail [14:08] oh, crashes? none for me so far [14:08] 3.0 crashed much more for me [14:09] well that's something new in 3.1.4 [14:09] the registration seems racy and it leads to segfaults on start [14:09] once I use it it's ok [14:09] right, I get the stuck issue often on dx merge requests [14:10] for me, only on spam, it seems it gets stuck while retrieving images over http [14:11] I shouldn't read spam mails, I know :) [14:11] ;-) [14:12] kenvandine, did you start on packaging the new n-osd version yet? if not I will do it [14:12] seb128, i did [14:13] ok [14:13] good, one thing less to do ;-) [14:13] it is ready, however it doesn't convert the gconf to gsettings [14:13] yeah, I said that to MacSlow is the merge request when he merged the code [14:13] should i upload it as is? [14:13] yes [14:14] * kenvandine does so [14:14] it's enough of a detail to be fixed later [14:14] one less gconf user \o/ [14:14] ronoc, is next on my list [14:14] seb128, yup [14:14] seb128, uploaded :) [14:15] ronoc, bug #656323 [14:15] Launchpad bug 656323 in indicator-session "should use gsettings rather than gconf" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/656323 [14:15] ronoc, we need that fixed, the key the indicator is using are deprecated [14:15] kenvandine, excellent [14:15] seb128, ok [14:19] mvo, bouh [14:19] aptdaemon is unhappy [14:19] (lang, encoding) = locale._parse_localename(locale_str) [14:19] File "/usr/lib/python2.7/locale.py", line 421, in _parse_localename [14:19] code = normalize(localename) [14:19] File "/usr/lib/python2.7/locale.py", line 358, in normalize [14:19] fullname = localename.translate(_ascii_lower_map) [14:19] TypeError: character mapping must return integer, None or unicode [14:19] mvo, ^ known? [14:22] seb128: anything in particular to reproduce? or just switching to french and starting it? [14:22] mvo, what I do is running it, unselect all, click one update, click install [14:22] in french locale [14:22] it = update-manager [14:22] let me try if it does it if I just click upgrade [14:23] update-manager doesn't like aptdaemon going away btw [14:23] it sits there grey and hanging [14:23] mvo, yeah, same issue just clicking "upgrade" [14:24] LANGUAGE=fr_FR:fr:en [14:24] LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 [14:24] in the apport file [14:36] how do you make dpkg-buildpackage to download the latest tarball, as bzr bd does? [14:36] (trying to build a package in debian-svn) [14:37] rodrigo_: try uscan --rename --verbose [14:37] rodrigo_: just do uscan --no-symlink inside foo-1.0.0/ [14:38] oh, it's the debian's watch file, it just looks for 3.0, not 3.1 [14:39] I guess debian does not want 3.1 yet, so should I upload it for us only? [14:39] (gnome-color-manager) [14:47] rodrigo_, yes [14:47] upload for Ubuntu === vuntz|ds is now known as vuntz [14:47] seb128, ok [14:48] Debian wants to get the stable 3 in unstable before going for new versions and they don't have the resources to track unstable cycles anyway [14:49] ok [14:52] seb128: howdy, my clock disappeared in unity a few days ago; how do i get it back? [14:52] kirkland, hey [14:53] kirkland, is indicator-datetime installed? [14:53] seb128: heh, nope, rc indicator-datetime 0.2.91-0ubuntu2 Simple clock [14:53] ok, install it then [14:53] ;-) [14:53] seb128: oh, looks like gnome-control-center was removed [14:53] seb128: thanks! [14:53] kirkland, yw [14:53] * kirkland never dist-upgrades evar again :-) [14:54] :-P [14:54] or read what it wants to do before saying yes ;-) [15:00] seb128: heh, or that [15:01] hrmm, this new auto-confirm thing is annoying sometimes [15:02] the commit not opening an editor? [15:03] on launchpad. it just auto-confirmed a bug, in both packages it affects. probably because someone clicked "this bug affects me too" [15:03] oh ok [15:04] so i guess if there's a bug that has like 20 packages attached to it, and they're in "new" state, and someone clicks "affects me too" because they see it in one package, it will auto-confirm all of them. that seems bad :) [15:06] ah, and ogra already fixed it anyway. [15:07] seb128: uploaded eds, will depwait until liboauth is ready (and libgdata is built, which is also depwait on liboauth) [15:08] ok [15:08] I already pinged kees, he's aware but couldn't +1 the bug yet, although he said it looked okay [15:08] ^^ that's the MIR for liboauth, of course [15:09] ah, wtf, the branch wasn't up to date [15:10] seb128, is robert_ancell around? Can you ask him if there's an easy way to tell if LightDM is the active DM? [15:10] mterry, he's not [15:11] mterry, he left summit yesterday and I did flight back earlier today, I'm back at home [15:11] mterry, he's on holidays until next week again [15:11] oh, didn't realize [15:16] kenvandine, i've uploaded an indicator-session with the template update since that one got a tarball yesterday already and got quite some new strings this cycle [15:16] kenvandine, the other ones can probably wait the next time they are uploaded [15:17] kenvandine, template -> intltool-update === zyga is now known as zyga-afk [15:37] seb128, thx [15:45] cdbs, I still get no icons at all in gnome-shell with your updated package [15:45] cdbs, you only got the power icon missing? [15:49] rodrigo_, I think he was not talking about icons but about not having the indicator for it [15:49]