[15:08] <ogra_> #startmeeting
[15:08] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Aug 11 15:08:36 2011 UTC.  The chair is ogra_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
[15:08] <meetingology> Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting.
[15:08] <ogra_> hmm, i dont have the urls handy, gimme a sec
[15:10] <ogra_> grmbl
[15:10] <ogra_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2011/20110811 doesnt exist
[15:10] <ogra_> so i only have action items from a week ago
[15:11] <ogra_> i'll skip these for now ...
[15:11] <ogra_> [topic] standing items
[15:11] <meetingology> TOPIC: standing items
[15:11] <ogra_> http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel.html
[15:11] <ogra_> http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/ubuntu-armel-oneiric-beta-1.html
[15:12] <GrueMaster> try http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/oneiric/canonical-arm-ubuntu-11.10-beta-1.html
[15:12] <infinity> The first graph seems more broken than I remember it.
[15:13] <ogra_> hmm, i still have to update the WI tracker code to pick up the new name
[15:13]  * NCommander coughs a lng up
[15:13] <NCommander> *lung
[15:13] <ogra_> i guess that causes the weird graphs ... bear with me, its on my todo for after mx5 and ac100 have landed
[15:14] <ogra_> NCommander, do you remember any action items from last week ? (there was no wikipage and i dont remember them)
[15:14] <NCommander> ogra_: there's a wikipage, I sent the link out in the reminder email
[15:14] <ogra_> anyway....
[15:15] <ogra_> [action] ogra to update WI tracker with new team name
[15:15] <meetingology> ACTION: ogra to update WI tracker with new team name
[15:15] <ogra_> [topic] ARM Server Status (NCommander, Daviey)
[15:15] <meetingology> TOPIC: ARM Server Status (NCommander, Daviey)
[15:15] <NCommander> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Meeting/2011/20110811
[15:15] <ogra_> oh whay is that arm now
[15:15] <ogra_> the others are all at /MobileTeam/Meeting/
[15:15] <NCommander> Because all the wiki pages were rearranged
[15:15] <ogra_> up to last week
[15:16] <ogra_> k
[15:16] <ogra_> anyway, how is the server looking ?
[15:17] <NCommander> Server images themselves work pretty well, though I found a bug  that occurs duringnetwork setup if you don't have internet access
[15:17] <infinity> That's unique to ARM?
[15:17] <ogra_> how was the LCX summit wrt arm stuff ?
[15:17] <ogra_> *LXC
[15:17] <NCommander> LXC is semi-foobared on omap4 due to kernel configuration issues, but a new kernel was uploaded yesterday to help to resolve it
[15:17] <NCommander> I'll be confirming LXC works out of the box when I can stop hacking up a lung
[15:17] <ogra_> funny that these werent taken over from .38
[15:18] <ogra_> iirc all these options were enabled in .38 already
[15:18] <infinity> ogra_: .38 had the same missing bits.
[15:18] <ogra_> ah, k
[15:18] <ogra_> just because the USER_NS bug was fix released already
[15:19] <ogra_> anything else for server ?
[15:19] <ogra_> .
[15:19] <ogra_> .
[15:20] <ogra_> .
[15:20] <ogra_> moving on
[15:20] <ogra_> [topic] Kernel Status (cooloney, ppisati)
[15:20] <meetingology> TOPIC: Kernel Status (cooloney, ppisati)
[15:20] <ogra_> neither is here
[15:20] <ogra_> anyone else got something for kernel (apart from the above wrt server)
[15:20] <janimo> should upload the linaro mx kernel today
[15:21] <janimo> sponsor it for linaro
[15:21] <ogra_> mahmoh is constantly cpmplaining that we have no omap4 srever flavour
[15:21] <GrueMaster> I ran into a snag with ipsec because of missing kernel bits.
[15:21] <GrueMaster> Should be fixed with latest kernel upload.
[15:21] <ogra_> yeah
[15:22] <infinity> I'm not convinced we need a -server kernel for a product that's essential a proof-of-concept, but...
[15:22] <ogra_> davidm, do we have any plans to make kernel teams life harder this release with an -omap4-server kernel ?
[15:22] <GrueMaster> If omap4 were a server product, I would see where having a server kernel would be nice.
[15:22] <ogra_> infinity, i agree
[15:22] <davidm> ogra_, I do not have any such plans
[15:22] <ogra_> good :)
[15:22] <ogra_> anything else for kernel ?
[15:22] <ogra_> .
[15:22] <ogra_> .
[15:23] <ogra_> .
[15:23] <ogra_> moving on
[15:23] <davidm> yep
[15:23] <ogra_> [topic] ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo)
[15:23] <meetingology> TOPIC: ARM Porting/FTBFS status (NCommander, janimo)
[15:23] <ogra_> the ftbfs list looks awful
[15:23] <janimo> nothing to report aside from the occasional givebacks to LP
[15:23] <ogra_> i nearly fell off my chair today when i checked it
[15:23] <janimo> ogra_, hmm it seemed to me it was usual
[15:23]  * janimo checks again
[15:23] <infinity> Yeah, now that we're (well, sometime today) in FeatureFreeze, I'm jumping into FTBFS head-first.
[15:23] <ogra_> wasnt someone looking into ocaml three weeks ago ?
[15:24] <janimo> more than one person. NCommander and linaro gcc folk
[15:24] <infinity> NCommander was poking ocaml with a pointy stick.
[15:24] <infinity> And if/when that gets fixed, we can clean up a lot of our mess.
[15:24] <ogra_> might have left some holes ... but no fix :)
[15:24] <ogra_> right
[15:25] <janimo> emacs is not ARM specific but just happened to be a timing issue, likewise is server team. libvirt is new FTBFS
[15:25] <NCommander> I made some progress with ocaml but no fix
[15:25] <ogra_> yeah, and libvirt is weird
[15:25] <janimo> any progress with the panda cluster? That would also clean up the list quite a bit
[15:25] <ogra_> cjwatson came by in #ubuntu-arm asking about it ... i tried a local build and that fails in even earlier tests
[15:26] <ogra_> so another pair of eyes on libvirt would be appreciated
[15:26] <janimo> ogra_, I'll take a look at libvirt if noone else got it
[15:26] <ogra_> and probably a build with the last change rolled back to see if its introduced through that (which i think is unlikely)
[15:26] <ogra_> [action] janimo to look at libvirt after FF
[15:26] <meetingology> ACTION: janimo to look at libvirt after FF
[15:27] <ogra_> anything else ?
[15:27] <ogra_> .
[15:27] <ogra_> .
[15:27] <ogra_> .
[15:27] <ogra_> moving on
[15:27]  * janimo bets on gcc
[15:27] <ogra_> [topic] ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander)
[15:27] <meetingology> TOPIC: ARM Image Status (ogra, NCommander)
[15:27] <ogra_> awful !
[15:28] <ogra_> the livefs builders committed suicide, x86 had livecd-rootfs removed and the archive is totally out of sync
[15:28] <davidm> Ouch
[15:29] <infinity> Yeah, the word of the day is "special".
[15:29] <ogra_> i was (trying to) working on the ac100 iamges ssince monday but instead of coding i'm actiually fighting the archive churn
[15:29] <infinity> But none of the special is ARM-specific.
[15:29] <NCommander> least A3 was last week
[15:29] <ogra_> infinity, the chrun is ports specific as usual
[15:29] <cjwatson> livecd-rootfs has been put back, FWIW, and measures taken to stop that happening again
[15:30] <ogra_> and it gets really annoying that i have to spend three days on the archive to actually be able to produce 1-2h of code work
[15:30] <GrueMaster> That might explain why my mirror decided to puke.
[15:30] <infinity> ogra_: Well, the unity churn was an issue (and I smacked that until it got fixed), but the ubuntu-one screwup was out of our hands, for instance.  And the livecd-rootfs thing.
[15:30] <cjwatson> I'm afraid to say that *somebody* has to spend that time on the archive at some point or stuff doesn't get fixed, in aggregate ...
[15:31] <ogra_> infinity, well, the ubuntuone breakage was fixed with a seed change and meta upload
[15:31] <ogra_> i was just to frustrated yesterday to actually do it, but it should be solved now
[15:31] <infinity> ogra_: Oh, they don't intend to reintroduce the gnome client?  The changelog seemed to indicate differently.
[15:31] <infinity> Grr.
[15:31] <ogra_> i dont care
[15:31] <infinity> cjwatson: *nod*
[15:31] <ogra_> if it comes back i'll happily seed it again
[15:32] <cjwatson> FWIW you didn't actually have to change the seeds - rebuilding ubuntu-meta would have sufficed
[15:32] <ogra_> but really, we need to get that archive skew thing fixed, thats why i'm moaning
[15:32] <cjwatson> and that would mean it would automatically revert if the package is reintroduced
[15:32] <infinity> cjwatson: Rebuilding meta would have dropped ubuntuone entirely, if it was being pulled in by the non-existant package.
[15:32] <ogra_> indeed
[15:32] <cjwatson> true
[15:33] <cjwatson> but ogra's seed change was *only* to comment out ubuntuone-client-gnome
[15:33] <infinity> Oh. :)
[15:33] <ogra_> anyway, i think we are burning lots of manhours fighting the archive issues every release ... just felt like mentioning it once again
[15:33] <infinity> Yeah, I didn't look.
[15:33] <cjwatson> for future reference rebuilding ubuntu-meta would've been enough
[15:34] <infinity> ogra_: Now that we're past FF, I'll be keeping a closer eye on archive stuff for us.
[15:34] <infinity> Well, almost past.  Whatever.
[15:34] <ogra_> infinity, and how would that help ?
[15:34]  * infinity looks at a clock.
[15:34] <ogra_> you cant remove the sync issues
[15:34] <infinity> ogra_: Because catching things as they're a problem is much better than letting them stack up for two days and become an unresolvable mess?
[15:35] <ogra_> sure, but thats just curing the symptoms (as we do since 3 years)
[15:35] <ogra_> anyway
[15:35] <ogra_> lets move
[15:35] <ogra_> unless anyone else has something for image
[15:35] <ogra_> .
[15:35] <ogra_> .
[15:35] <ogra_> .
[15:35] <ogra_> moving on
[15:35] <ogra_> [topic] QA Status (GrueMaster)
[15:35] <meetingology> TOPIC: QA Status (GrueMaster)
[15:36] <GrueMaster> Landscape testing works well.  Running the qa entropy script now, expect results in two weeks.
[15:36] <ogra_> heh
[15:36] <infinity> Plug in a keyboard and hire a cat to walk on it.
[15:36] <GrueMaster> My mirror is slowly being rebuilt, so until it finishes I can't do much automation.
[15:37] <janimo> so much entropy from that rsync activity going to waste
[15:37] <GrueMaster> The entropy test is a server workitem.
[15:38] <GrueMaster> Will look into iSCSI or LAVA today.  Haven't decided which will be more exciting.
[15:38] <GrueMaster> Especially given that I can't reimage with netinstall atm.
[15:39] <GrueMaster> Nothing else to report.
[15:39] <ogra_> any questions ? else i'll move to AOB
[15:40] <ogra_> .
[15:40] <ogra_> .
[15:40] <ogra_> .
[15:40] <ogra_> moving on
[15:40] <ogra_> [topic] AOB
[15:40] <meetingology> TOPIC: AOB
[15:40] <ogra_> so seeing #linaro there are some changes ahead for us
[15:40] <ogra_> seems x-loader gets dropped
[15:40] <janimo> from where?
[15:40] <ogra_> which means we need to adjust the image builders
[15:41] <ogra_> janimo, by linaro
[15:41] <janimo> can omap boot without it?
[15:41] <GrueMaster> What are they replacing it with?
[15:41] <ogra_> they roll a u-boot that can run without x-loader
[15:41] <GrueMaster> ah
[15:41] <ogra_> see #linaro for further info ...
[15:41] <janimo> getting rid of software wothout losing features is good
[15:41] <ogra_> i just felt that fits into AOB :)
[15:41] <janimo> first time I hear about it
[15:41] <ogra_> me too
[15:42] <ogra_> just wanted to mention that debian-cd will need adjustment
[15:42] <ogra_> and jasper probably too
[15:42] <GrueMaster> It will be interesting to see if it works.
[15:42] <ogra_> thats all from my side
[15:42] <janimo> ah getting rid of the debian package for xloader
[15:42] <janimo> but still need MLO on the disk
[15:42] <GrueMaster> Considering the 2nd stage needs to fit in 64k and u-boot is 227k.
[15:42] <janimo> I was hoping they found a way to not use a bootloader to load a bootloader to load a bootloader as now
[15:43] <ogra_> there is a solution
[15:43] <ogra_> you can add a binary header to the u-boot binary
[15:43] <GrueMaster> Oh.  They're combining x-loader & u-boot into one package with 2 binaries?  Make sense.
[15:43] <ogra_> there are some docs on omappedia about that
[15:44] <ogra_> anyway, no need to discuss details in the meeting, we just need to make the builder changes at the same time the package change
[15:44] <ogra_> and it looks like that will happen after FF
[15:44] <janimo> are they planning it in the oneiric timeframe?
[15:44] <janimo> ok
[15:44] <ogra_> yeah
[15:44] <ogra_> there was talk about an FFe
[15:44] <ogra_> anything else ?
[15:44] <ogra_> .
[15:44] <ogra_> .
[15:44] <ogra_> .
[15:45] <janimo> interesting conqequences of having 6 months vs 1 month release cycles project working on similar things :)
[15:45] <ogra_> heh, yeah
[15:45] <ogra_> going once
[15:45] <ogra_> twice ....
[15:45] <ogra_> ... sold to the dogowning QA guy in portland
[15:45] <ogra_> #endmeeting
[15:45] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Aug 11 15:45:53 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot . (v 0.1.4)
[15:45] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-11-15.08.moin.txt
[15:48] <AlanBell> ogra_: are those minutes in a useful format for you?
[15:48] <ogra_> AlanBell, let me see
[15:49] <ogra_> AlanBell, awesome !
[15:50] <AlanBell> the theory is that it should be copy-paste-done to the wiki
[15:50] <ogra_> yeah, looks great
[15:54] <czajkowski> ogra_: less work for you :)
[15:54] <ogra_> yep :)
[15:55] <ogra_> well, i normally dont run this meeting, but NCommander fell over in a fever ...
[15:55] <charlie-tca> Sure NCommander didn't just want a break from running the meeting? ;)
[15:56]  * NCommander smacks charlie-tca 
[15:56] <charlie-tca> ouch!
[15:57] <czajkowski> ogra_: good practice for next months meeting and gimmie a break :)
[15:58] <ogra_> yeah, and the CC meeting is right afterwards
[15:58] <ogra_> ah, no there is one before
[15:58] <czajkowski> ogra_: better make it finish on time so
[15:58] <ogra_> well, the one i mean is actually coming thu.
[15:58] <ogra_> err
[15:59] <ogra_> tue.
[15:59] <ogra_> (these T days ... always confusing)
[15:59] <charlie-tca> See, even coughing up the lung doesn't slow NCommander down :)
[16:00] <ogra_> but it quietens him a bit (its hard to speak witgh your lung between your lips)
[16:00] <czajkowski> ogra_: you're so caring
[16:00] <ogra_> thats what team mates are for, no *g*
[16:05] <AlanBell> czajkowski: seen the new #voters command?
[16:05] <czajkowski> AlanBell: i can barely see in front of me, so not atm. will scroll logs in a wee bit
[16:06] <czajkowski> once i find food and get out of suit into jeans and hoodie
[16:06] <AlanBell> it isn't in the logs
[16:06] <AlanBell> go have yummy food
[16:09] <charlie-tca> AlanBell: are the commands someplace?
[16:12] <AlanBell> yeah, they are as they always were, with a couple of extras
[16:13] <AlanBell> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot
[16:14] <AlanBell> I will move that page to /meetingology or something I think, and take my name out of the links the bot gives at the start and end of the meeting
[16:25] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[17:59] <kees> o/
[17:59] <nijaba> wendar and nijaba are available if any questions arrises on the proposed policy
[17:59] <nijaba> o/
[18:00] <cjwatson> o/
[18:01] <cjwatson> do we have quorum?
[18:01] <cjwatson> pitti sent apologies
[18:01] <cjwatson> mdz: around?
[18:02] <mdz> cjwatson, yes
[18:03] <cjwatson> hi Keybuk
[18:03] <cjwatson> we have kees and mdz too
[18:03] <cjwatson> pitti is at the desktop summit and sent apologies; I believe sabdfl is at the summit too so maybe he won't be around
[18:05] <kees> it's all you Keybuk :)
[18:05] <Keybuk> #startmeeting
[18:05] <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Aug 11 18:05:49 2011 UTC.  The chair is Keybuk. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
[18:05] <meetingology> Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting.
[18:05] <Keybuk> #topic Action Rview
[18:05] <meetingology> TOPIC: Action Rview
[18:06] <Keybuk> Set series RM to ubuntu-release (cjwatson)
[18:06] <Keybuk> [LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/174375
[18:06] <Keybuk> done?
[18:06] <cjwatson> yes!
[18:06] <cjwatson> at long last
[18:06] <Keybuk> Brainstorm review update (cjwatson)
[18:06] <cjwatson> not done :-(
[18:06] <Keybuk> Send notes on the Extension Repository Policy proposal (everyone)
[18:07] <Keybuk> did this mean the Partner repository?
[18:07] <Keybuk> or something else/
[18:07] <kees> i failed at this, but mdz had good things to say
[18:07] <kees> it's the merged partner and extras policy
[18:07] <Keybuk> I don't think I've seen that
[18:07] <wendar> I've updated the proposal to the latest from the technical-board mailing list thread.
[18:08] <mdz> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2011-August/001007.html
[18:08] <kees> there has been a thread about it on the tb list
[18:08] <mdz> all of the issues I raised have been addressed
[18:08] <Keybuk> mdz: right, that's the thread I meant by "the Partner repository"
[18:08] <Keybuk> we have a separate agenda item for that
[18:08] <Keybuk> so
[18:08] <Keybuk> [TOPIC] Policy proposal for extensions repository
[18:08] <meetingology> TOPIC: Policy proposal for extensions repository
[18:08] <mdz> Keybuk, extension = partner + ARB + ...?
[18:08] <Keybuk> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PartnerRepositoryPolicy
[18:09] <Keybuk> so all of mdz'
[18:09] <Keybuk> s issues have been addressed
[18:09] <mdz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PartnerRepositoryPolicy
[18:09] <Keybuk> did anyone else have issues with the policy?
[18:10] <mdz> it was just updated today with the changes discussed
[18:10] <cjwatson> some of the rules are unnecessary (we already have transitive closure rules for the components of the Ubuntu archive proper), but no matter
[18:11] <mdz> is anyone NOT prepared to vote on it today?
[18:11] <cjwatson> I'm happy that the set of differences are proportionate to what these repositories need, and that they aren't unreasonably hard for archive admins to enforce
[18:11] <cjwatson> if approved, it should be linked from the archive admin docs and archive admins should be made aware of it
[18:12] <kees> I'm happy with it. I'd love to see a "nice to have" area (e.g. "built with ubuntu's compiler"), but I don't think there is really a place for that
[18:12] <Keybuk> I think, given the resounding silence, and given the healthy ML thread, we should go ahead and vote
[18:12] <mdz> I'm conscious that this was first proposed in May
[18:12] <Keybuk> [VOTE] Policy proposal for extensions repository
[18:12] <meetingology> Please vote on: Policy proposal for extensions repository
[18:12] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[18:12] <mdz> +1
[18:12] <meetingology> +1 received from mdz
[18:12] <cjwatson> +1
[18:12] <meetingology> +1 received from cjwatson
[18:12] <Keybuk> +1
[18:12] <meetingology> +1 received from Keybuk
[18:12] <kees> +1
[18:12] <meetingology> +1 received from kees
[18:12] <Keybuk> #endvote
[18:12] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Policy proposal for extensions repository
[18:12] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[18:12] <meetingology> Motion carried
[18:12]  * nijaba thanks the board
[18:13]  * wendar too
[18:13] <kees> thanks nijaba and wendar !
[18:13] <mdz> nijaba, wendar, sorry it took so long to get here
[18:13] <Keybuk> nijaba: thank you for your work on this
[18:14] <nijaba> Keybuk: wendar did help a lot too :)
[18:14] <Keybuk> ok,
[18:14] <Keybuk> [TOPIC] AOB?
[18:14] <meetingology> TOPIC: AOB?
[18:15] <cjwatson> I have one small item
[18:15] <Keybuk> cjwatson: go for it
[18:15] <cjwatson> I'm also checking with Mark in his capacity as my employer, but figured I'd ask the board as well
[18:15] <cjwatson> at DebConf, Stefano and Bdale asked if I'd like to serve on the Debian Technical Committee
[18:16] <cjwatson> I'm minded to accept, but would like to check that nobody on the TB feels this is any kind of conflict
[18:16] <mdz> do you anticipate the tech-ctte becoming more active?
[18:17] <mdz> hmm, looking at the archives, maybe it already is
[18:17] <kees> I have trouble imagining a direct conflict. seems like it would be bebficial. might be more work than expected since we sometimes move items from here to tech-ctte
[18:17] <cjwatson> it's active in the sense that it responds in a reasonably timely fashion nowadays
[18:17] <kees> *beneficial
[18:18] <mdz> I could imagine situations where you would want to abstain from certain decisions in either role
[18:18] <cjwatson> there are limits to how active it can be in some senses since its role is laid down in the Debian constitution; for example the constitution says that it does not do technical design
[18:18] <mdz> but no conflict of interest in occpying it
[18:18] <Keybuk> speaking as somebody who serves in a technical capacity on two competing Linux distributions already, I don't see a conflict
[18:18] <kees> true, but I think that almost stems more from being a dev than a board member
[18:19] <cjwatson> but Bdale did say he was looking for somebody who would be able to help drive discussions forward, and a wider range of experience
[18:19] <cjwatson> I think the activity level of the TC is such that I can manage that
[18:20] <cjwatson> there was some discussion at DebConf, so interested people may like to review the video of that session
[18:20] <Keybuk> cjwatson: though I do worry that when you do burnout from taking on too much, the resulting explosion could end all life on this planet
[18:20] <cjwatson> I agree that there are cases where abstentions would be needed, although I haven't seen any such in recent activity
[18:20] <kees> how do people get onto the TC? appointment?
[18:21] <cjwatson> appointment by DPL + existing TC
[18:22] <kees> yeah, I'd say go for it as long as you don't think you'll be spread too thin
[18:22] <cjwatson> at the very least I must admit it's gratifying to be asked :)
[18:22] <mdz> +1
[18:22] <cjwatson> so ok, thanks for the feedback folks, I'll try to get hold of Mark once he's back from his travels
[18:22] <Keybuk> great
[18:23] <Keybuk> mdz: I believe you're next chair in alphabetical rotation?
[18:23]  * mdz nods
[18:24] <Keybuk> great
[18:24] <Keybuk> then if there's nothing else ...
[18:24] <mdz> Keybuk, agenda will be empty following this meeting, yes?
[18:24] <Keybuk> mdz: it will, but I still can't edit the wiki, so if you could clear it ...
[18:24] <mdz> I think that's our first "zero moment" in a while
[18:24] <mdz> so, yay
[18:25] <mdz> cjwatson, do you need help with the brainstorm review?
[18:25] <mdz> unfortunately I can't offer myself at present
[18:25] <cjwatson> no, I just had to put a lot of stuff on hold while away in the Balkans
[18:25] <Keybuk> #endmeeting
[18:25] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Aug 11 18:25:44 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot . (v 0.1.4)
[18:25] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-11-18.05.moin.txt
[18:25] <cjwatson> and then there was feature freeze
[18:25] <cjwatson> I'll be able to take care of this early next week
[18:26] <cjwatson> I realise I'm late, sorry
[18:26] <mdz> cool
[18:26] <mdz> thanks Keybuk
[18:26] <kees> thanks!
[18:28] <Keybuk> oh, wow, I can login to the wiki now - it just took 7 minutes to complete the login
[18:28] <Keybuk> agenda updated :)
[23:12] <duanedesign> hello all
[23:12] <duanedesign> PabloRubianes: meeting know?
[23:13] <PabloRubianes> hi duanedesign
[23:13] <PabloRubianes> I think it's in 45 min
[23:13] <duanedesign> when of
[23:13] <PabloRubianes> right? or my date -u is lying
[23:13] <duanedesign> whew of
[23:13] <jledbetter> PabloRubianes, I think so
[23:14] <duanedesign> thanks you jledbetter
[23:14]  * jledbetter checks fridge cal
[23:14] <jledbetter> Yep!
[23:14] <duanedesign> mw goes to get rfamiliar with the bots commands
[23:14] <jledbetter> heh
[23:15] <PabloRubianes> hehe
[23:16] <duanedesign> amyone have alink lol
[23:17] <duanedesign> nigelb: maybe :)
[23:19] <duanedesign> ok i got it :)
[23:19] <jledbetter> duanedesign, One in topic
[23:19] <jledbetter> oh ok :)
[23:20] <duanedesign> lol that is prbabaly it :)
[23:23] <duanedesign> has any of the BEginners Team had a chance to look though the proposat Crales made
[23:24] <PabloRubianes> duanedesign, are you sober?
[23:24] <jledbetter> lol
[23:24] <PabloRubianes> :P
[23:24] <charlie-tca> duanedesign: bot stuff - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot
[23:26] <AlanBell> that is just the new commands really
[23:26] <AlanBell> it is #startmeeting and #endmeeting at either end
[23:26] <AlanBell> and #topic foo to change topics
[23:27] <jledbetter> duanedesign, Yes. Read the sandbox link from cprofitt
[23:27] <AlanBell>  and #action nick stuff to do to give someone an action
[23:33] <duanedesign> PabloRubianes: i wonder. I had a glass a wine at dinner which I do not do. Fortunately it only degrades my typing skills :)
[23:33] <jledbetter> Hehe
[23:34] <duanedesign> my typing skills are my achellis heel antway
[23:34] <duanedesign> see!  anyway*
[23:35] <charlie-tca> You need one of the "spelling knowing" apps.
[23:38] <PabloRubianes> duanedesign, ahhahaha