[11:58] <joru> Hi
[11:59] <joru> I'm just new to the qa-list and this channel. want to give something back to the community why i'm initially going to test some isos
[12:03] <brendand> hi joru
[12:04] <joru> hi brendand
[12:05] <joru> so i'm visiting the testing iso procedure and the qa site atm
[12:05] <joru> and reading up on them
[12:06] <joru> i've got a few computers and some spare hardware
[12:07] <joru> so if i understand correctly, something that has not been tested by anyone yet is for example listed in the "untested" section on the iso testing tracker?
[12:07] <joru> e.g http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/untested
[12:08] <joru> or is there a section which i can read on what to prioritise testing on?
[12:17] <joru> well alot of my questions are answered as i read. i'll read up on some more. cheers.
[13:03] <fader> joru: That's correct -- the 'untested' section is a good way of quickly finding things that need tested
[13:03] <fader> joru: Though at the moment we are not testing any images :)
[13:03] <fader> Alpha 3 was released last week
[13:04] <fader> We'll be testing more at the end of the month, before the release of Beta 1 on 1 September, so we will *definitely* want help then :)
[13:25] <joru> fader: ok good to know you are not testing anything
[13:26] <joru> fader: is that dicided during the weekly irc sessions?
[13:27] <fader> joru: It's discussed at the meetings as needed, but there is a schedule here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[13:27] <fader> joru: You can generally assume that in the week leading up to a release there will be ISO testing going on
[13:28] <fader> And this is the right channel to check in with questions or to see if testing has started
[13:28] <joru> ah good schedule
[13:28] <joru> didnt see it before
[13:29] <joru> at least i now know i dont need to test in vain
[13:30] <fader> :)
[13:30] <fader> joru: There's also other testing always going on, not just ISO testing
[13:30] <fader> If you're bored that is :)
[13:30] <joru> well the knowledge acquired from reading and setup of my local environment is done
[13:30] <joru> well i report a few bugs here and there when they happen
[13:30] <joru> do some translations etc
[13:30] <fader> Awesome!
[13:30] <joru> but i would like to become more involved in the future
[13:31] <joru> since i'm aming to take a different turn with my career
[13:31] <fader> Fantastic... great to have you on board!
[13:31] <joru> thanx
[13:31] <fader> joru: Aiming to do more OSS work?
[13:31] <fader> In your career I mean
[13:31] <joru> buts most fantastic to have such a great pack of software at hand
[13:32] <joru> fader: yes, more software development, and especially in the open community
[13:32] <joru> amung other things
[13:32] <fader> joru: Excellent!  More hackers are always needed!
[13:33] <joru> though the learning curve seems a bit steep at times
[13:33] <joru> but the challenge is part of the goal
[13:33] <joru> brb
[13:35] <joru> fader: well i've always liked programming, but didnt go for that as formal education
[13:36] <fader> joru: Digging in and just trying it is a great way to learn.  And the Ubuntu community in particular is very friendly and helpful in my experience
[13:37] <joru> yes i've got taht experience too
[13:37] <fader> (Full disclosure is that I get paid to work on it, but I found that to be the case even before that was the case :) )
[13:37] <fader> Er, wait, terrible sentence
[13:37] <fader> Argh, hopefully you know what I meant
[13:37] <joru> yea :)
[13:38] <joru> well part of my plan is to be paid in one way or another to contribute to oss in the future
[13:39] <joru> prob sometimes could be lack of formal cs education
[13:39] <joru> but what counts in the long run is what you actually do
[13:39] <fader> Eh, it doesn't seem to be a big problem if you can point to some things that you've done
[13:39] <fader> Exactly!
[13:39] <joru> thus i'm going to activate myself more
[13:39] <joru> then things get sorted out
[13:41] <joru> so do you have any suggeestions of where one could start?
[13:41] <fader> Cool... glad to have you on board!
[13:41] <joru> preparing packaging?
[13:41] <joru> besides bug reporting that is
[13:42] <joru> guess i'll ask that q in beginners-dev instead
[13:42] <joru> not to flood this channel with nonsence =)
[13:45] <joru> glad to be on board.
[13:46] <fader> Yeah, that might be a better channel... I can't help much with that
[13:46] <fader> But if you come back during ISO testing this channel will be more active :)
[13:47] <davmor2> extremely active infact
[13:49] <fader> Heh
[13:49] <fader> davmor2: Only because everyone is hanging out and having a good time... there are never any bugs.  Ever.  ;)
[13:51] <davmor2> fader: Never ever ever,  there might be the odd destruction of an iso maybe causing a respin from time to time but never any bugs :D
[13:51] <fader> davmor2: Yeah, respins are for aesthetic reasons.  Yeah, that's the ticket.  To make their MD5sums look nicer.
[13:52] <davmor2> fader: and when that nasty build system breaks it,   but that's only so you feel like you under pressure to hit the target right :)
[14:07] <joru> fader: yes, i will monitor during ISO testing
[14:08] <fader> joru: Great!  We'll look forward to having you around! :)