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MichelleQMeeting today, right?19:37
Cheri703yep19:50
pleia2#startmeeting20:00
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pleia2who all is here for the meeting? :)20:00
jledbettero/20:00
pleia2http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/Agenda20:00
Mootbot-UKLINK received:  http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/Agenda20:00
pleia2we'll give folks a couple minutes to drop in before starting20:01
pleia2ok, so the first thing on the agenda is a quick review of our blueprint items20:03
pleia2https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/community-o-ubuntu-women-project-goals20:03
pleia2[TOPIC] Oneiric Blueprint progress20:04
Mootbot-UKNew Topic:  Oneiric Blueprint progress20:04
pleia2[LINK] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/community-o-ubuntu-women-project-goals20:04
Mootbot-UKLINK received:  https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/community-o-ubuntu-women-project-goals20:04
pleia2akgraner, nigelb, any mentoring updates?20:04
* Cheri703 is here20:04
pleia2ok, sounds like neither of them are around20:05
pleia2I believe hypatia's items are blocked by that, so we'll skip those for now20:05
pleia2wiki status... we're almost done20:06
pleia2I just need to follow through with the last few bugs and we'll be good to go20:06
* pleia2 hopes to finish this weekend20:06
Tubu: o)20:06
pleia2any questions, comments, etc on blueprint items?20:07
pleia2hi there Tubu! :)20:07
pleia2[TOPIC] Career Days20:07
Mootbot-UKNew Topic:  Career Days20:07
Tubuhi all!20:07
pleia2Cheri703: the floor is yours20:07
Cheri703Well, we have a basic page up, so people can sign up to participate20:08
Cheri703http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/CareerDays20:08
Mootbot-UKLINK received:  http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/CareerDays20:08
pleia2do we want to shoot for 1 per month, maybe get the first scheduled?20:08
hypatiawhoa awesome20:08
Cheri703We are still discussing exactly how/when to do this, the basic idea is IRC session with Q&A > blog post > maybe saved to wki?20:09
* hypatia will totally do someting about security20:09
Cheri703that'd work for me, I think it's just a matter of how quickly we can get volunteers and they can be ready20:09
pleia2hypatia: yay!20:09
Cheri703I think that if possible it'd be good to do it in u-classroom, just because unfortunately, I think if we publicize this at all, there is a HIGH probability for idiot hecklers20:10
Cheri703and if it was in classroom, at least that crap would get contained to classroom-chat20:10
Cheri703whereas if we did it here, they could just be annoying to their hearts' content unless settings were changed20:10
jledbetterMost of us are (forunately? unfortunately?) good at dealing with them ;)20:10
Cheri703well, but it interrupts the logs20:11
pleia2I like having our things benefiting the whole community anyway, so I +1 using #u-classroom20:11
Cheri703if it is in the room that the teaching is going on in20:11
jledbetter+1 u-classroom too20:11
hypatiaclassroom is usually muted and just the speaker is +v right?20:11
Cheri703yeah20:11
pleia2my only concern about this is the "fear of stupid questions" thing, so I think we want to make clear every step of the way that the participant is available privately for questions too (preferably *after* the session :))20:12
pleia2so participants will have to be willing to accept questions via email or PM20:12
akgranersorry I'm late20:12
Cheri703I think also if anyone knows non-ubuntu specific women who might be willing to participate, that'd be awesome too20:12
jledbetterWell, as long as it doesn't become a bunch of emails/PMs?20:12
pleia2but I don't think that'll be a problem20:12
pleia2Cheri703: agreed20:12
pleia2jledbetter: I don't antipate "a bunch" maybe a couple :)20:13
Cheri703pleia2: is there any way in u-classroom to have anonymous questions?20:13
pleia2Cheri703: nope20:13
jledbetterAh ok. Cause I get emails from random men already for "mentoring"20:13
Cheri703or could we have someone set up as "question taker" that could get pm'd and post questions anonymously during session?20:13
jledbetterCheri703: Why anonymous?20:13
Cheri703also is there a u-w generic email?20:13
Cheri703well, for the "fear of stupid questions" thing20:14
hypatiajust the mailing list20:14
jledbetterOH! That kind of stupid question. Gotcha.20:14
Cheri703because if there was a generic email that could be set up, people could just email "hey, I have a question for hypatia about her session and didn't think of it til later" and then they could just get distributed, vs direct emails...20:14
pleia2the only address we have for the team is the competition address20:14
Cheri703though I guess if people took the effort to look at presenters' wiki pages or launchpad, they'd have their email anyway20:14
pleia2(twitter and everything is tied to that)20:15
jledbetterGuess we could try it being open and seeing how it goes?20:15
hypatiayeah it seems better to just have folks contact the presenters if they are chill with that20:15
jledbetter+1 hypatia20:15
pleia2+120:15
Cheri703yeah, I'm fine with that, just saying if someone was concerned20:16
pleia2we'll talk with each partipiant before that to make sure it's all ok20:16
pleia2we can figure something out if a participant is uncomfortable with direct communications :)20:16
Cheri703So I think we could likely just say "first come first served" and whoever is ready to do one first can let us know, and we can schedule around them20:16
pleia2sounds good20:17
Cheri703vs "EVERY 3rd tuesday at noon" because that might not work20:17
jledbetterThis is targeted to women, right?20:17
pleia2jledbetter: right20:17
Cheri703yes, but I don't think the presenters necessarily have to be women...20:17
Cheri703(in my opinion)20:17
pleia2Cheri703: *nod*20:17
jledbetterTrue, but hopefully showcasing as well as leading into "who could be mentors"?20:18
Cheri703because it is also about (at least originally) just giving info about jobs in IT related fields20:18
Cheri703true20:18
pleia2yeah, I think we'll prefer female participants simply because of the mentor-factor20:18
pleia2but there simply aren't enough of us20:18
jledbetterCheri703: What about non-IT like design? Writing? Lots of Ubuntu-related jobs?20:18
jledbetterpleia2: i know :(20:18
jledbetterWas thinking of akgraner. She's got a wicked awesome job:)20:19
akgraner(thanks)20:19
* pleia2 suspects maco gets tired of being "the go-to female motu"20:19
* MichelleQ is here and catching up. 20:19
Cheri703hmm...I had been thinking more along the idea of IT, but for sure :) I'm ok with that20:19
Cheri703I think anyone who wants to share would be welcome20:19
Cheri703as long as it is at least tangentially related to ubuntu type things :)20:19
pleia2sounds good20:20
jledbetterAgain, thinking of mentoring areas :)20:20
Cheri703yeah, definitely20:20
jledbetterAwesome.20:20
* jledbetter is obviously excited about this ;)20:20
pleia2:D20:20
pleia2ok, sounds like we have a plan20:20
* hypatia likes this plan20:20
jledbetterCheri703: Thank you for organizing this!20:20
Cheri703sure :)20:21
pleia2ok, shall we move on to our next item?20:21
Cheri703so folks who want to participate, get your session planned, and let us know, and then we can figure out about scheduling20:21
pleia2will do!20:21
pleia2akgraner: you available for a quick mentoring update?20:21
akgraneryep20:21
pleia2[TOPIC] Mentoring update20:21
Mootbot-UKNew Topic:  Mentoring update20:21
pleia2all yours!20:22
akgranerFirst sorry for being late20:22
akgranersecond...I've gone through GSOC and I know nigelb has been looking at other mentoring programs as well20:22
akgranerwe've created a googledoc for organizing everything and I had hoped it would be ready for the meeting but it's not20:23
akgranerso the goal for me is to have it in place over the weekend and email the list MOnday20:23
akgranerbut it looks very doable and easily tailored20:23
pleia2great :)20:23
akgranerso that's were we are (aren't) and the plan for the weekend...20:24
akgranerwish it was more...20:25
pleia2it's fine, we really just wanted to get the basics out this cycle and it sounds like you're on track20:25
pleia2thanks akgraner20:25
pleia2(and nigelb!)20:25
pleia2AlanBell: you around for ada lovelace day updates?20:26
AlanBellyup20:26
pleia2[TOPIC] Ada Lovelace day ideas update20:26
Mootbot-UKNew Topic:  Ada Lovelace day ideas update20:26
AlanBellhttp://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/RKITOIjo1B20:26
Mootbot-UKLINK received:  http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/RKITOIjo1B20:26
AlanBelljledbetter added a bunch of ideas to the list20:26
AlanBellAda Lovelace day is October 7th so there is a reasonable amount of time still20:27
pleia2what are we thinking for timeline, announce competition on that day or announce winner?20:27
AlanBelldepends what we do really20:27
* pleia2 nods20:28
AlanBellwhich could be several things20:28
AlanBellthere will be a general blogging effort on the day20:28
jledbetterGood :)20:29
AlanBellwhat things on the list do you like?20:29
pleia2I like "Why I am an Ubuntu Woman writing/design contest?" but maybe incorporate other suggestions too (bake/knit) and have it be something like "I am an Ubuntu Woman"20:31
pleia2so we get people making images, writing essays about their work, showing off cookies20:31
* MichelleQ has cookies. :-)20:32
jledbetterYeah, not to be stereotypical, but I would love to see ubuntu baking :) Would be great ideas for release parties.20:32
* AlanBell is currently eating a cookie20:32
MichelleQjledbetter: coming down for UDS?  I'll make you UbuCookies20:32
* jledbetter has no cookies :(20:32
pleia2maybe some people can come up with clever "I'm an Ubuntu Woman" apps they programed too20:32
jledbetterMichelleQ: Need to see how work goes :)20:32
jledbetterpleia2: OH! Excellent....20:33
* Tubu will get some cookies... tomorrow... :-(20:33
Cheri703pleia2: that might fall along the idea of that video I'd shown you, and the "I'm a woman, and I use ubuntu" or whatever...if you recall20:33
pleia2Cheri703: ah yes!20:33
Cheri703though that's a larger-scale project probably20:33
pleia2I can see the vancouver team making such a video20:33
AlanBellso should we make it a competition/contest, or just a general effort to do awesome things?20:33
Cheri703heh, yeah20:33
pleia2maybe we should nudge charlene to make a submission20:33
MichelleQAlanBell: I vote general awesomeness.20:34
hypatialike the "I am a technical woman" video folks did at Grace Hopper a couple years back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O293-kmyUj020:34
Cheri703this is the video I was referencing: (it is about bikes) http://amsterdamize.com/2010/07/08/this-is-amsterdam-and-this-is-my-bike/20:34
pleia2I'm inclined toward general awesomeness too20:34
pleia2rather than prizes20:34
AlanBellI think so too20:34
jledbetterIs that ok? Did competition in the past. Did that help with participation?20:35
AlanBellthe main reason we were trying to do a competition was because we had offers of prizes20:35
AlanBellbut we don't *have* to take them up20:35
AlanBelland silbs was quite enthusiastic about the competition concept20:35
* jledbetter likes prizes :)20:36
Cheri703it could be general awesomeness and then have crowd-sourced voting on who is awesomest of the awesomeness20:36
pleia2I think the main problem with the proposal of "anything that is awesome" is judging would be crazy hard (and fraught with pitfalls, what if cookies win over clever programs?)20:36
akgranerprizes sponsors are fun to take too20:36
* Tubu like that video!!20:36
akgranertalk even20:36
Cheri703like post them all on a site and let folks vote20:36
jledbetterCheri703: I dig that20:36
pleia2yeah, that could work20:36
Cheri703because frankly, if someone had awesome cookies, and 30 people liked those, then great! it wouldn't be like 2 people deciding on all of it20:37
* pleia2 nods20:37
jledbetter+120:37
jledbetterCheri703: Do we get to try the cookies? I kid.20:37
pleia2lol20:37
Cheri703I just thought that :D20:37
jledbetterAlanBell: And you had offers for prizes already?20:38
pleia2ok, so the baked goods just need to *look* delicious ;)20:38
jledbetterlol pleia220:38
AlanBelljledbetter: kind of, yes20:38
Cheri703just like in advertising :)20:38
jledbetterAlanBell: Cool beans :)20:38
pleia2unfortunately rikki isn't at linux pro anymore20:38
akgranerno but I still am :-)20:38
pleia2oh good :)20:38
AlanBellso, making something at least slightly ubuntu related, writing about it and we publish all the articles and vote on awesomeness20:39
pleia2yeah20:39
AlanBellwith a fairly broad interpretation of "making"20:39
pleia2yeah, we can toss out examples: art, cookies, robots, clever apps...20:40
Tubu+120:40
AlanBellok20:41
AlanBellthat sounds like most of a plan to me20:42
pleia2perhaps have it due on oct 8th and then announce all the awesome things on the 9th and toss in the poll?20:42
pleia2winner is less important ada day than all the submissions I think :)20:42
hypatiahey folks i have to jet - will read logs when i get home20:42
jledbetter+1 pleia220:42
jledbetterhypatia: See you later :)20:42
pleia2AlanBell: ok, can you put this idea into a wiki page and we'll go from there?20:43
pleia2looks like our past ones were under http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Events/Competitions/BlahBlahEventName20:44
AlanBellyes, lets get it all set up to be announced by the new leadership team shortly after August 22nd20:44
pleia2perfect!20:44
pleia2[TOPIC] Announcements, other misc20:45
Mootbot-UKNew Topic:  Announcements, other misc20:45
pleia2akgraner set up the poll and sent out ballots, if anyone didn't receive one but thing they should have they can contact her https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-women/2011-August/003319.html20:45
pleia2for leadership elections20:46
akgraner36 out of 268 have voted20:46
akgraneronly 10 email address were bad...20:46
akgraner(so far)20:46
pleia2thanks akgraner20:47
akgraneryw20:47
pleia2any other announcements or anything?20:48
jledbetterSponsorship apps end soon too. And U-W Still offers some help on proofreading right?20:48
pleia2ah yes20:48
pleia2http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/UDS has details20:49
Mootbot-UKLINK received:  http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/UDS has details20:49
pleia2deadline is august 24th, summit itself is oct 31-nov 420:49
pleia2ok, I think we'll wrap up then20:51
pleia2thanks everyone, very productive meeting!20:51
pleia2#endmeeting20:51
Mootbot-UKMeeting finished at 20:51.20:51
jledbetterpleia2: Thank you for running it :)20:51

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