MichelleQ | Meeting today, right? | 19:37 |
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Cheri703 | yep | 19:50 |
pleia2 | #startmeeting | 20:00 |
Mootbot-UK | Meeting started at 20:00. The chair is pleia2. | 20:00 |
Mootbot-UK | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [PROGRESS REPORT], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 20:00 |
pleia2 | who all is here for the meeting? :) | 20:00 |
jledbetter | o/ | 20:00 |
pleia2 | http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/Agenda | 20:00 |
Mootbot-UK | LINK received: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/Agenda | 20:00 |
pleia2 | we'll give folks a couple minutes to drop in before starting | 20:01 |
pleia2 | ok, so the first thing on the agenda is a quick review of our blueprint items | 20:03 |
pleia2 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/community-o-ubuntu-women-project-goals | 20:03 |
pleia2 | [TOPIC] Oneiric Blueprint progress | 20:04 |
Mootbot-UK | New Topic: Oneiric Blueprint progress | 20:04 |
pleia2 | [LINK] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/community-o-ubuntu-women-project-goals | 20:04 |
Mootbot-UK | LINK received: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/community-o-ubuntu-women-project-goals | 20:04 |
pleia2 | akgraner, nigelb, any mentoring updates? | 20:04 |
* Cheri703 is here | 20:04 | |
pleia2 | ok, sounds like neither of them are around | 20:05 |
pleia2 | I believe hypatia's items are blocked by that, so we'll skip those for now | 20:05 |
pleia2 | wiki status... we're almost done | 20:06 |
pleia2 | I just need to follow through with the last few bugs and we'll be good to go | 20:06 |
* pleia2 hopes to finish this weekend | 20:06 | |
Tubu | : o) | 20:06 |
pleia2 | any questions, comments, etc on blueprint items? | 20:07 |
pleia2 | hi there Tubu! :) | 20:07 |
pleia2 | [TOPIC] Career Days | 20:07 |
Mootbot-UK | New Topic: Career Days | 20:07 |
Tubu | hi all! | 20:07 |
pleia2 | Cheri703: the floor is yours | 20:07 |
Cheri703 | Well, we have a basic page up, so people can sign up to participate | 20:08 |
Cheri703 | http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/CareerDays | 20:08 |
Mootbot-UK | LINK received: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/CareerDays | 20:08 |
pleia2 | do we want to shoot for 1 per month, maybe get the first scheduled? | 20:08 |
hypatia | whoa awesome | 20:08 |
Cheri703 | We are still discussing exactly how/when to do this, the basic idea is IRC session with Q&A > blog post > maybe saved to wki? | 20:09 |
* hypatia will totally do someting about security | 20:09 | |
Cheri703 | that'd work for me, I think it's just a matter of how quickly we can get volunteers and they can be ready | 20:09 |
pleia2 | hypatia: yay! | 20:09 |
Cheri703 | I think that if possible it'd be good to do it in u-classroom, just because unfortunately, I think if we publicize this at all, there is a HIGH probability for idiot hecklers | 20:10 |
Cheri703 | and if it was in classroom, at least that crap would get contained to classroom-chat | 20:10 |
Cheri703 | whereas if we did it here, they could just be annoying to their hearts' content unless settings were changed | 20:10 |
jledbetter | Most of us are (forunately? unfortunately?) good at dealing with them ;) | 20:10 |
Cheri703 | well, but it interrupts the logs | 20:11 |
pleia2 | I like having our things benefiting the whole community anyway, so I +1 using #u-classroom | 20:11 |
Cheri703 | if it is in the room that the teaching is going on in | 20:11 |
jledbetter | +1 u-classroom too | 20:11 |
hypatia | classroom is usually muted and just the speaker is +v right? | 20:11 |
Cheri703 | yeah | 20:11 |
pleia2 | my only concern about this is the "fear of stupid questions" thing, so I think we want to make clear every step of the way that the participant is available privately for questions too (preferably *after* the session :)) | 20:12 |
pleia2 | so participants will have to be willing to accept questions via email or PM | 20:12 |
akgraner | sorry I'm late | 20:12 |
Cheri703 | I think also if anyone knows non-ubuntu specific women who might be willing to participate, that'd be awesome too | 20:12 |
jledbetter | Well, as long as it doesn't become a bunch of emails/PMs? | 20:12 |
pleia2 | but I don't think that'll be a problem | 20:12 |
pleia2 | Cheri703: agreed | 20:12 |
pleia2 | jledbetter: I don't antipate "a bunch" maybe a couple :) | 20:13 |
Cheri703 | pleia2: is there any way in u-classroom to have anonymous questions? | 20:13 |
pleia2 | Cheri703: nope | 20:13 |
jledbetter | Ah ok. Cause I get emails from random men already for "mentoring" | 20:13 |
Cheri703 | or could we have someone set up as "question taker" that could get pm'd and post questions anonymously during session? | 20:13 |
jledbetter | Cheri703: Why anonymous? | 20:13 |
Cheri703 | also is there a u-w generic email? | 20:13 |
Cheri703 | well, for the "fear of stupid questions" thing | 20:14 |
hypatia | just the mailing list | 20:14 |
jledbetter | OH! That kind of stupid question. Gotcha. | 20:14 |
Cheri703 | because if there was a generic email that could be set up, people could just email "hey, I have a question for hypatia about her session and didn't think of it til later" and then they could just get distributed, vs direct emails... | 20:14 |
pleia2 | the only address we have for the team is the competition address | 20:14 |
Cheri703 | though I guess if people took the effort to look at presenters' wiki pages or launchpad, they'd have their email anyway | 20:14 |
pleia2 | (twitter and everything is tied to that) | 20:15 |
jledbetter | Guess we could try it being open and seeing how it goes? | 20:15 |
hypatia | yeah it seems better to just have folks contact the presenters if they are chill with that | 20:15 |
jledbetter | +1 hypatia | 20:15 |
pleia2 | +1 | 20:15 |
Cheri703 | yeah, I'm fine with that, just saying if someone was concerned | 20:16 |
pleia2 | we'll talk with each partipiant before that to make sure it's all ok | 20:16 |
pleia2 | we can figure something out if a participant is uncomfortable with direct communications :) | 20:16 |
Cheri703 | So I think we could likely just say "first come first served" and whoever is ready to do one first can let us know, and we can schedule around them | 20:16 |
pleia2 | sounds good | 20:17 |
Cheri703 | vs "EVERY 3rd tuesday at noon" because that might not work | 20:17 |
jledbetter | This is targeted to women, right? | 20:17 |
pleia2 | jledbetter: right | 20:17 |
Cheri703 | yes, but I don't think the presenters necessarily have to be women... | 20:17 |
Cheri703 | (in my opinion) | 20:17 |
pleia2 | Cheri703: *nod* | 20:17 |
jledbetter | True, but hopefully showcasing as well as leading into "who could be mentors"? | 20:18 |
Cheri703 | because it is also about (at least originally) just giving info about jobs in IT related fields | 20:18 |
Cheri703 | true | 20:18 |
pleia2 | yeah, I think we'll prefer female participants simply because of the mentor-factor | 20:18 |
pleia2 | but there simply aren't enough of us | 20:18 |
jledbetter | Cheri703: What about non-IT like design? Writing? Lots of Ubuntu-related jobs? | 20:18 |
jledbetter | pleia2: i know :( | 20:18 |
jledbetter | Was thinking of akgraner. She's got a wicked awesome job:) | 20:19 |
akgraner | (thanks) | 20:19 |
* pleia2 suspects maco gets tired of being "the go-to female motu" | 20:19 | |
* MichelleQ is here and catching up. | 20:19 | |
Cheri703 | hmm...I had been thinking more along the idea of IT, but for sure :) I'm ok with that | 20:19 |
Cheri703 | I think anyone who wants to share would be welcome | 20:19 |
Cheri703 | as long as it is at least tangentially related to ubuntu type things :) | 20:19 |
pleia2 | sounds good | 20:20 |
jledbetter | Again, thinking of mentoring areas :) | 20:20 |
Cheri703 | yeah, definitely | 20:20 |
jledbetter | Awesome. | 20:20 |
* jledbetter is obviously excited about this ;) | 20:20 | |
pleia2 | :D | 20:20 |
pleia2 | ok, sounds like we have a plan | 20:20 |
* hypatia likes this plan | 20:20 | |
jledbetter | Cheri703: Thank you for organizing this! | 20:20 |
Cheri703 | sure :) | 20:21 |
pleia2 | ok, shall we move on to our next item? | 20:21 |
Cheri703 | so folks who want to participate, get your session planned, and let us know, and then we can figure out about scheduling | 20:21 |
pleia2 | will do! | 20:21 |
pleia2 | akgraner: you available for a quick mentoring update? | 20:21 |
akgraner | yep | 20:21 |
pleia2 | [TOPIC] Mentoring update | 20:21 |
Mootbot-UK | New Topic: Mentoring update | 20:21 |
pleia2 | all yours! | 20:22 |
akgraner | First sorry for being late | 20:22 |
akgraner | second...I've gone through GSOC and I know nigelb has been looking at other mentoring programs as well | 20:22 |
akgraner | we've created a googledoc for organizing everything and I had hoped it would be ready for the meeting but it's not | 20:23 |
akgraner | so the goal for me is to have it in place over the weekend and email the list MOnday | 20:23 |
akgraner | but it looks very doable and easily tailored | 20:23 |
pleia2 | great :) | 20:23 |
akgraner | so that's were we are (aren't) and the plan for the weekend... | 20:24 |
akgraner | wish it was more... | 20:25 |
pleia2 | it's fine, we really just wanted to get the basics out this cycle and it sounds like you're on track | 20:25 |
pleia2 | thanks akgraner | 20:25 |
pleia2 | (and nigelb!) | 20:25 |
pleia2 | AlanBell: you around for ada lovelace day updates? | 20:26 |
AlanBell | yup | 20:26 |
pleia2 | [TOPIC] Ada Lovelace day ideas update | 20:26 |
Mootbot-UK | New Topic: Ada Lovelace day ideas update | 20:26 |
AlanBell | http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/RKITOIjo1B | 20:26 |
Mootbot-UK | LINK received: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/RKITOIjo1B | 20:26 |
AlanBell | jledbetter added a bunch of ideas to the list | 20:26 |
AlanBell | Ada Lovelace day is October 7th so there is a reasonable amount of time still | 20:27 |
pleia2 | what are we thinking for timeline, announce competition on that day or announce winner? | 20:27 |
AlanBell | depends what we do really | 20:27 |
* pleia2 nods | 20:28 | |
AlanBell | which could be several things | 20:28 |
AlanBell | there will be a general blogging effort on the day | 20:28 |
jledbetter | Good :) | 20:29 |
AlanBell | what things on the list do you like? | 20:29 |
pleia2 | I like "Why I am an Ubuntu Woman writing/design contest?" but maybe incorporate other suggestions too (bake/knit) and have it be something like "I am an Ubuntu Woman" | 20:31 |
pleia2 | so we get people making images, writing essays about their work, showing off cookies | 20:31 |
* MichelleQ has cookies. :-) | 20:32 | |
jledbetter | Yeah, not to be stereotypical, but I would love to see ubuntu baking :) Would be great ideas for release parties. | 20:32 |
* AlanBell is currently eating a cookie | 20:32 | |
MichelleQ | jledbetter: coming down for UDS? I'll make you UbuCookies | 20:32 |
* jledbetter has no cookies :( | 20:32 | |
pleia2 | maybe some people can come up with clever "I'm an Ubuntu Woman" apps they programed too | 20:32 |
jledbetter | MichelleQ: Need to see how work goes :) | 20:32 |
jledbetter | pleia2: OH! Excellent.... | 20:33 |
* Tubu will get some cookies... tomorrow... :-( | 20:33 | |
Cheri703 | pleia2: that might fall along the idea of that video I'd shown you, and the "I'm a woman, and I use ubuntu" or whatever...if you recall | 20:33 |
pleia2 | Cheri703: ah yes! | 20:33 |
Cheri703 | though that's a larger-scale project probably | 20:33 |
pleia2 | I can see the vancouver team making such a video | 20:33 |
AlanBell | so should we make it a competition/contest, or just a general effort to do awesome things? | 20:33 |
Cheri703 | heh, yeah | 20:33 |
pleia2 | maybe we should nudge charlene to make a submission | 20:33 |
MichelleQ | AlanBell: I vote general awesomeness. | 20:34 |
hypatia | like the "I am a technical woman" video folks did at Grace Hopper a couple years back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O293-kmyUj0 | 20:34 |
Cheri703 | this is the video I was referencing: (it is about bikes) http://amsterdamize.com/2010/07/08/this-is-amsterdam-and-this-is-my-bike/ | 20:34 |
pleia2 | I'm inclined toward general awesomeness too | 20:34 |
pleia2 | rather than prizes | 20:34 |
AlanBell | I think so too | 20:34 |
jledbetter | Is that ok? Did competition in the past. Did that help with participation? | 20:35 |
AlanBell | the main reason we were trying to do a competition was because we had offers of prizes | 20:35 |
AlanBell | but we don't *have* to take them up | 20:35 |
AlanBell | and silbs was quite enthusiastic about the competition concept | 20:35 |
* jledbetter likes prizes :) | 20:36 | |
Cheri703 | it could be general awesomeness and then have crowd-sourced voting on who is awesomest of the awesomeness | 20:36 |
pleia2 | I think the main problem with the proposal of "anything that is awesome" is judging would be crazy hard (and fraught with pitfalls, what if cookies win over clever programs?) | 20:36 |
akgraner | prizes sponsors are fun to take too | 20:36 |
* Tubu like that video!! | 20:36 | |
akgraner | talk even | 20:36 |
Cheri703 | like post them all on a site and let folks vote | 20:36 |
jledbetter | Cheri703: I dig that | 20:36 |
pleia2 | yeah, that could work | 20:36 |
Cheri703 | because frankly, if someone had awesome cookies, and 30 people liked those, then great! it wouldn't be like 2 people deciding on all of it | 20:37 |
* pleia2 nods | 20:37 | |
jledbetter | +1 | 20:37 |
jledbetter | Cheri703: Do we get to try the cookies? I kid. | 20:37 |
pleia2 | lol | 20:37 |
Cheri703 | I just thought that :D | 20:37 |
jledbetter | AlanBell: And you had offers for prizes already? | 20:38 |
pleia2 | ok, so the baked goods just need to *look* delicious ;) | 20:38 |
jledbetter | lol pleia2 | 20:38 |
AlanBell | jledbetter: kind of, yes | 20:38 |
Cheri703 | just like in advertising :) | 20:38 |
jledbetter | AlanBell: Cool beans :) | 20:38 |
pleia2 | unfortunately rikki isn't at linux pro anymore | 20:38 |
akgraner | no but I still am :-) | 20:38 |
pleia2 | oh good :) | 20:38 |
AlanBell | so, making something at least slightly ubuntu related, writing about it and we publish all the articles and vote on awesomeness | 20:39 |
pleia2 | yeah | 20:39 |
AlanBell | with a fairly broad interpretation of "making" | 20:39 |
pleia2 | yeah, we can toss out examples: art, cookies, robots, clever apps... | 20:40 |
Tubu | +1 | 20:40 |
AlanBell | ok | 20:41 |
AlanBell | that sounds like most of a plan to me | 20:42 |
pleia2 | perhaps have it due on oct 8th and then announce all the awesome things on the 9th and toss in the poll? | 20:42 |
pleia2 | winner is less important ada day than all the submissions I think :) | 20:42 |
hypatia | hey folks i have to jet - will read logs when i get home | 20:42 |
jledbetter | +1 pleia2 | 20:42 |
jledbetter | hypatia: See you later :) | 20:42 |
pleia2 | AlanBell: ok, can you put this idea into a wiki page and we'll go from there? | 20:43 |
pleia2 | looks like our past ones were under http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Events/Competitions/BlahBlahEventName | 20:44 |
AlanBell | yes, lets get it all set up to be announced by the new leadership team shortly after August 22nd | 20:44 |
pleia2 | perfect! | 20:44 |
pleia2 | [TOPIC] Announcements, other misc | 20:45 |
Mootbot-UK | New Topic: Announcements, other misc | 20:45 |
pleia2 | akgraner set up the poll and sent out ballots, if anyone didn't receive one but thing they should have they can contact her https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-women/2011-August/003319.html | 20:45 |
pleia2 | for leadership elections | 20:46 |
akgraner | 36 out of 268 have voted | 20:46 |
akgraner | only 10 email address were bad... | 20:46 |
akgraner | (so far) | 20:46 |
pleia2 | thanks akgraner | 20:47 |
akgraner | yw | 20:47 |
pleia2 | any other announcements or anything? | 20:48 |
jledbetter | Sponsorship apps end soon too. And U-W Still offers some help on proofreading right? | 20:48 |
pleia2 | ah yes | 20:48 |
pleia2 | http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/UDS has details | 20:49 |
Mootbot-UK | LINK received: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/UDS has details | 20:49 |
pleia2 | deadline is august 24th, summit itself is oct 31-nov 4 | 20:49 |
pleia2 | ok, I think we'll wrap up then | 20:51 |
pleia2 | thanks everyone, very productive meeting! | 20:51 |
pleia2 | #endmeeting | 20:51 |
Mootbot-UK | Meeting finished at 20:51. | 20:51 |
jledbetter | pleia2: Thank you for running it :) | 20:51 |
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