[19:37] Meeting today, right? [19:50] yep [20:00] #startmeeting [20:00] Meeting started at 20:00. The chair is pleia2. [20:00] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [PROGRESS REPORT], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [20:00] who all is here for the meeting? :) [20:00] o/ [20:00] http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/Agenda [20:00] LINK received: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/Agenda [20:01] we'll give folks a couple minutes to drop in before starting [20:03] ok, so the first thing on the agenda is a quick review of our blueprint items [20:03] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/community-o-ubuntu-women-project-goals [20:04] [TOPIC] Oneiric Blueprint progress [20:04] New Topic: Oneiric Blueprint progress [20:04] [LINK] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/community-o-ubuntu-women-project-goals [20:04] LINK received: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/community-o-ubuntu-women-project-goals [20:04] akgraner, nigelb, any mentoring updates? [20:04] * Cheri703 is here [20:05] ok, sounds like neither of them are around [20:05] I believe hypatia's items are blocked by that, so we'll skip those for now [20:06] wiki status... we're almost done [20:06] I just need to follow through with the last few bugs and we'll be good to go [20:06] * pleia2 hopes to finish this weekend [20:06] : o) [20:07] any questions, comments, etc on blueprint items? [20:07] hi there Tubu! :) [20:07] [TOPIC] Career Days [20:07] New Topic: Career Days [20:07] hi all! [20:07] Cheri703: the floor is yours [20:08] Well, we have a basic page up, so people can sign up to participate [20:08] http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/CareerDays [20:08] LINK received: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/CareerDays [20:08] do we want to shoot for 1 per month, maybe get the first scheduled? [20:08] whoa awesome [20:09] We are still discussing exactly how/when to do this, the basic idea is IRC session with Q&A > blog post > maybe saved to wki? [20:09] * hypatia will totally do someting about security [20:09] that'd work for me, I think it's just a matter of how quickly we can get volunteers and they can be ready [20:09] hypatia: yay! [20:10] I think that if possible it'd be good to do it in u-classroom, just because unfortunately, I think if we publicize this at all, there is a HIGH probability for idiot hecklers [20:10] and if it was in classroom, at least that crap would get contained to classroom-chat [20:10] whereas if we did it here, they could just be annoying to their hearts' content unless settings were changed [20:10] Most of us are (forunately? unfortunately?) good at dealing with them ;) [20:11] well, but it interrupts the logs [20:11] I like having our things benefiting the whole community anyway, so I +1 using #u-classroom [20:11] if it is in the room that the teaching is going on in [20:11] +1 u-classroom too [20:11] classroom is usually muted and just the speaker is +v right? [20:11] yeah [20:12] my only concern about this is the "fear of stupid questions" thing, so I think we want to make clear every step of the way that the participant is available privately for questions too (preferably *after* the session :)) [20:12] so participants will have to be willing to accept questions via email or PM [20:12] sorry I'm late [20:12] I think also if anyone knows non-ubuntu specific women who might be willing to participate, that'd be awesome too [20:12] Well, as long as it doesn't become a bunch of emails/PMs? [20:12] but I don't think that'll be a problem [20:12] Cheri703: agreed [20:13] jledbetter: I don't antipate "a bunch" maybe a couple :) [20:13] pleia2: is there any way in u-classroom to have anonymous questions? [20:13] Cheri703: nope [20:13] Ah ok. Cause I get emails from random men already for "mentoring" [20:13] or could we have someone set up as "question taker" that could get pm'd and post questions anonymously during session? [20:13] Cheri703: Why anonymous? [20:13] also is there a u-w generic email? [20:14] well, for the "fear of stupid questions" thing [20:14] just the mailing list [20:14] OH! That kind of stupid question. Gotcha. [20:14] because if there was a generic email that could be set up, people could just email "hey, I have a question for hypatia about her session and didn't think of it til later" and then they could just get distributed, vs direct emails... [20:14] the only address we have for the team is the competition address [20:14] though I guess if people took the effort to look at presenters' wiki pages or launchpad, they'd have their email anyway [20:15] (twitter and everything is tied to that) [20:15] Guess we could try it being open and seeing how it goes? [20:15] yeah it seems better to just have folks contact the presenters if they are chill with that [20:15] +1 hypatia [20:15] +1 [20:16] yeah, I'm fine with that, just saying if someone was concerned [20:16] we'll talk with each partipiant before that to make sure it's all ok [20:16] we can figure something out if a participant is uncomfortable with direct communications :) [20:16] So I think we could likely just say "first come first served" and whoever is ready to do one first can let us know, and we can schedule around them [20:17] sounds good [20:17] vs "EVERY 3rd tuesday at noon" because that might not work [20:17] This is targeted to women, right? [20:17] jledbetter: right [20:17] yes, but I don't think the presenters necessarily have to be women... [20:17] (in my opinion) [20:17] Cheri703: *nod* [20:18] True, but hopefully showcasing as well as leading into "who could be mentors"? [20:18] because it is also about (at least originally) just giving info about jobs in IT related fields [20:18] true [20:18] yeah, I think we'll prefer female participants simply because of the mentor-factor [20:18] but there simply aren't enough of us [20:18] Cheri703: What about non-IT like design? Writing? Lots of Ubuntu-related jobs? [20:18] pleia2: i know :( [20:19] Was thinking of akgraner. She's got a wicked awesome job:) [20:19] (thanks) [20:19] * pleia2 suspects maco gets tired of being "the go-to female motu" [20:19] * MichelleQ is here and catching up. [20:19] hmm...I had been thinking more along the idea of IT, but for sure :) I'm ok with that [20:19] I think anyone who wants to share would be welcome [20:19] as long as it is at least tangentially related to ubuntu type things :) [20:20] sounds good [20:20] Again, thinking of mentoring areas :) [20:20] yeah, definitely [20:20] Awesome. [20:20] * jledbetter is obviously excited about this ;) [20:20] :D [20:20] ok, sounds like we have a plan [20:20] * hypatia likes this plan [20:20] Cheri703: Thank you for organizing this! [20:21] sure :) [20:21] ok, shall we move on to our next item? [20:21] so folks who want to participate, get your session planned, and let us know, and then we can figure out about scheduling [20:21] will do! [20:21] akgraner: you available for a quick mentoring update? [20:21] yep [20:21] [TOPIC] Mentoring update [20:21] New Topic: Mentoring update [20:22] all yours! [20:22] First sorry for being late [20:22] second...I've gone through GSOC and I know nigelb has been looking at other mentoring programs as well [20:23] we've created a googledoc for organizing everything and I had hoped it would be ready for the meeting but it's not [20:23] so the goal for me is to have it in place over the weekend and email the list MOnday [20:23] but it looks very doable and easily tailored [20:23] great :) [20:24] so that's were we are (aren't) and the plan for the weekend... [20:25] wish it was more... [20:25] it's fine, we really just wanted to get the basics out this cycle and it sounds like you're on track [20:25] thanks akgraner [20:25] (and nigelb!) [20:26] AlanBell: you around for ada lovelace day updates? [20:26] yup [20:26] [TOPIC] Ada Lovelace day ideas update [20:26] New Topic: Ada Lovelace day ideas update [20:26] http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/RKITOIjo1B [20:26] LINK received: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/RKITOIjo1B [20:26] jledbetter added a bunch of ideas to the list [20:27] Ada Lovelace day is October 7th so there is a reasonable amount of time still [20:27] what are we thinking for timeline, announce competition on that day or announce winner? [20:27] depends what we do really [20:28] * pleia2 nods [20:28] which could be several things [20:28] there will be a general blogging effort on the day [20:29] Good :) [20:29] what things on the list do you like? [20:31] I like "Why I am an Ubuntu Woman writing/design contest?" but maybe incorporate other suggestions too (bake/knit) and have it be something like "I am an Ubuntu Woman" [20:31] so we get people making images, writing essays about their work, showing off cookies [20:32] * MichelleQ has cookies. :-) [20:32] Yeah, not to be stereotypical, but I would love to see ubuntu baking :) Would be great ideas for release parties. [20:32] * AlanBell is currently eating a cookie [20:32] jledbetter: coming down for UDS? I'll make you UbuCookies [20:32] * jledbetter has no cookies :( [20:32] maybe some people can come up with clever "I'm an Ubuntu Woman" apps they programed too [20:32] MichelleQ: Need to see how work goes :) [20:33] pleia2: OH! Excellent.... [20:33] * Tubu will get some cookies... tomorrow... :-( [20:33] pleia2: that might fall along the idea of that video I'd shown you, and the "I'm a woman, and I use ubuntu" or whatever...if you recall [20:33] Cheri703: ah yes! [20:33] though that's a larger-scale project probably [20:33] I can see the vancouver team making such a video [20:33] so should we make it a competition/contest, or just a general effort to do awesome things? [20:33] heh, yeah [20:33] maybe we should nudge charlene to make a submission [20:34] AlanBell: I vote general awesomeness. [20:34] like the "I am a technical woman" video folks did at Grace Hopper a couple years back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O293-kmyUj0 [20:34] this is the video I was referencing: (it is about bikes) http://amsterdamize.com/2010/07/08/this-is-amsterdam-and-this-is-my-bike/ [20:34] I'm inclined toward general awesomeness too [20:34] rather than prizes [20:34] I think so too [20:35] Is that ok? Did competition in the past. Did that help with participation? [20:35] the main reason we were trying to do a competition was because we had offers of prizes [20:35] but we don't *have* to take them up [20:35] and silbs was quite enthusiastic about the competition concept [20:36] * jledbetter likes prizes :) [20:36] it could be general awesomeness and then have crowd-sourced voting on who is awesomest of the awesomeness [20:36] I think the main problem with the proposal of "anything that is awesome" is judging would be crazy hard (and fraught with pitfalls, what if cookies win over clever programs?) [20:36] prizes sponsors are fun to take too [20:36] * Tubu like that video!! [20:36] talk even [20:36] like post them all on a site and let folks vote [20:36] Cheri703: I dig that [20:36] yeah, that could work [20:37] because frankly, if someone had awesome cookies, and 30 people liked those, then great! it wouldn't be like 2 people deciding on all of it [20:37] * pleia2 nods [20:37] +1 [20:37] Cheri703: Do we get to try the cookies? I kid. [20:37] lol [20:37] I just thought that :D [20:38] AlanBell: And you had offers for prizes already? [20:38] ok, so the baked goods just need to *look* delicious ;) [20:38] lol pleia2 [20:38] jledbetter: kind of, yes [20:38] just like in advertising :) [20:38] AlanBell: Cool beans :) [20:38] unfortunately rikki isn't at linux pro anymore [20:38] no but I still am :-) [20:38] oh good :) [20:39] so, making something at least slightly ubuntu related, writing about it and we publish all the articles and vote on awesomeness [20:39] yeah [20:39] with a fairly broad interpretation of "making" [20:40] yeah, we can toss out examples: art, cookies, robots, clever apps... [20:40] +1 [20:41] ok [20:42] that sounds like most of a plan to me [20:42] perhaps have it due on oct 8th and then announce all the awesome things on the 9th and toss in the poll? [20:42] winner is less important ada day than all the submissions I think :) [20:42] hey folks i have to jet - will read logs when i get home [20:42] +1 pleia2 [20:42] hypatia: See you later :) [20:43] AlanBell: ok, can you put this idea into a wiki page and we'll go from there? [20:44] looks like our past ones were under http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Events/Competitions/BlahBlahEventName [20:44] yes, lets get it all set up to be announced by the new leadership team shortly after August 22nd [20:44] perfect! [20:45] [TOPIC] Announcements, other misc [20:45] New Topic: Announcements, other misc [20:45] akgraner set up the poll and sent out ballots, if anyone didn't receive one but thing they should have they can contact her https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-women/2011-August/003319.html [20:46] for leadership elections [20:46] 36 out of 268 have voted [20:46] only 10 email address were bad... [20:46] (so far) [20:47] thanks akgraner [20:47] yw [20:48] any other announcements or anything? [20:48] Sponsorship apps end soon too. And U-W Still offers some help on proofreading right? [20:48] ah yes [20:49] http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/UDS has details [20:49] LINK received: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/UDS has details [20:49] deadline is august 24th, summit itself is oct 31-nov 4 [20:51] ok, I think we'll wrap up then [20:51] thanks everyone, very productive meeting! [20:51] #endmeeting [20:51] Meeting finished at 20:51. [20:51] pleia2: Thank you for running it :)