[00:01] <RAOF> Have fun :)
[00:33] <cnd> bryceh, are you still around?
[00:33] <cnd> RAOF, or are you around?
[00:33] <RAOF> I am, yes.
[00:34] <RAOF> cnd: What can I do you for?
[00:34] <cnd> RAOF, would you be able to upload a new utouch-qml package for me?
[00:34] <RAOF> Sure.
[00:34] <cnd> I need it in before feature freeze, and it's not in the utouch package set yet...
[00:34] <cnd> bzr branch lp:utouch-qml/ubuntu
[00:34] <cnd> uscan
[00:34] <cnd> bzr bd -S
[00:35] <cnd> sign and upload
[00:35] <cnd> I suppose the uscan should be uscan --download-current-version
[00:35] <RAOF> It should indeed :)
[00:35] <cnd> RAOF, you'll need bzr-builddeb installed
[00:36] <cnd> alternatively, I can upload a prebuild package somewhere for you to sign
[00:36] <cnd> prebuilt*
[00:36] <RAOF> I see that no-one's in a position to review your XI 2.1 protocol series :/
[00:36] <cnd> RAOF, upstream on the mailing list?
[00:37] <RAOF> Yeah.
[00:37] <cnd> whot will be
[00:37] <cnd> he's already emailed me to let me know he will review them soon
[00:37] <cnd> just got a bit of work to get out of the way
[00:37] <cnd> we're in pretty good communication
[00:37] <RAOF> Huzzah!
[00:38] <cnd> I don't know if anyone else is going to review though
[00:39] <RAOF> It only really needs whot's review, right?
[00:39] <RAOF> I guess Daniel's would be valuable, too.
[00:39] <RAOF> Man, X input doesn't have a very high bus factor :/
[00:41] <cnd> yeah, daniels would be nice but I think whot is the real gatekeeper
[00:43] <RAOF> You seem to have a bunch of 'libutouch-qml-doc: non-standard-file-perm usr/share/doc/utouch-qml/html/bc_s.png 0664 != 0644' lintian warnings in that package.
[00:44] <cnd> hmmm, I've not seen those warnings before
[00:44] <cnd> it's likely due to doxygen
[00:44] <RAOF> Yeah, likely.
[00:44] <cnd> well, it's definitely due to doxygen
[00:45] <cnd> I'll try and rebuild from scratch to see if I get those warnings
[00:45] <RAOF> Is there any easy way to test this?
[00:46] <cnd> RAOF, do you have a multitouch device?
[00:46] <RAOF> BAH!  bluetooth is broken, so my magic touchpad won't work.
[00:46] <cnd> synaptics perhaps?
[00:46] <RAOF> Got a synaptics here; how can I tell if it's sufficeiently multitouch?
[00:47] <cnd> you can install qt4-qmlviewer
[00:47] <cnd> then run qmlviewer examples/eventprinter/eventprinter.qml
[00:47] <RAOF> Ah.  When I say "synaptics", what I actually mean is "Alps GlidePoint"
[00:47] <cnd> heh
[00:47] <cnd> nope, won't work
[00:47] <cnd> (yet)
[00:48] <cnd> I've found that linux 3.0.0-7 works, but bluetooth doesn't work before that and hid-magicmouse (for the magic trackpad) doesn't work in 3.0.0-8
[00:48] <cnd> something else I need to track down...
[00:49] <cnd> RAOF, I only get the one lintian warning about the embedded javascript library
[00:49] <cnd> which is also a doxygen issue
[00:50] <cnd> doxygen likes to ship a version of jquery that is different than the upstream version
[00:50] <cnd> so you can't do the "correct" thing and symlink to the upstream version
[00:50] <RAOF> Hm.  This is possibly a pkgbinarymangler bug.  All those pngs have been touched by optipng.
[00:51] <cnd> what's optipng?
[00:51] <RAOF> The thing we use to squeeze ever tinier slivers of CD space out of packages.
[00:51] <RAOF> It's a png optimiser that pkgbinarymangler runs.
[00:51] <cnd> I'm guessing it's only invoked when it's installed
[00:51] <cnd> cause I don't have it installed
[00:52] <RAOF> Indeed.
[00:52] <RAOF> pkgbinarymangler hooks into dpkg somewhere.
[00:52] <cnd> I'll install it and see if that makes it occur
[00:52] <cnd> then we'll know for sure
[00:53] <cnd> nope, that still didn't do it
[00:54] <cnd> oh, I don't have pkgbinarymangler installed
[00:55] <cnd> well, the pngs were modified, but still no lintian warnings
[00:55] <cnd> so I don't know why you're seeing them
[00:55] <RAOF> Anyway, looks sufficiently good; uploaded.
[00:55] <RAOF> Hm.  Maybe my sbuild setup is slightly strange.
[00:55] <cnd> cool, thanks again!
[00:55] <cnd> are you all dist-upgraded?
[00:57] <RAOF> Yeah.
[00:58] <RAOF> I lost my libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 :(
[00:58] <cnd> ummm, ok?
[00:58] <cnd> was it near and dear to your heart?
[00:58] <RAOF> Terribly!
[00:58] <RAOF> Or, rather, it was near and dear to my wine.
[00:59] <RAOF> God knows when ia32-libs was last updated.
[00:59] <RAOF> It'll work once libc is fixed again.
[01:00] <cnd> I thought ia32-libs was going to go away
[01:04] <RAOF> Yeah, but it doesn't look like it will for oneiric.
[01:05] <RAOF> But you *can* install the i386 version of mesa, which does basically everything you want from multiarch, anyway :)
[01:06] <cnd> cool
[01:07] <RAOF> Oh, whoops.  You can as long as you've got a multiarch'd libpciaccess, such as I've got here :)
[01:31] <bjsnider> RAOF, is your system still using 20gb of ram per process?
[01:32] <RAOF> bjsnider: Still?  To what do you refer?
[01:32] <bjsnider> you said all your ram is used up because x clients grab huge amounts of it
[01:33] <bjsnider> but i guess the problem has been resolved
[01:33] <RAOF> That may have been compiz going mad?
[07:39] <ricotz> tjaalton, hi, i hope you dont forget about libx11
[07:41] <tjaalton> ricotz: nope
[07:42] <tjaalton> was FF today?
[07:42] <tjaalton> so it seems
[07:42] <tjaalton> I'll do that and some other merges then
[07:44] <ricotz> tjaalton, yes, FF is today ;), thanks
[07:47] <RAOF> tjaalton: While we're in the upload-before-FF games, could you please test the -ati in alioth?  I'd test it locally, but my ati machine has spent the past 6 hours updating and still isn't finished.
[07:48] <tjaalton> RAOF: oops, same problem here too. my test build is still on natty, though it would only take ~1h to update i guess
[07:48] <tjaalton> I only have an old firegl though
[07:50] <RAOF> Ok.  This HD 5450 should finish updating *sometime* soon, I guess :)
[07:51] <tjaalton> is hd6xxx supported yet?
[07:52] <RAOF> Should be.
[07:52] <RAOF> Although I think that might depend on the exact value of xxx.
[07:52] <tjaalton> good, I could buy a hd6450 based card, passively cooled and only ~50EUR
[08:05] <RAOF> tjaalton: Gah.  It's EOD here.  Could you please test -ati and upload if it's sane?
[08:06] <RAOF> I have no idea when my test box will be available to actually test on :/
[08:10] <tjaalton> RAOF: yeah, can do
[08:54] <tjaalton> hmm, not enough space on disk, best to just reinstall the sucker then. faster too
[09:20] <tseliot> Sarvatt, RAOF: are there any plans to put the new X in xorg-edgers?
[09:20] <tseliot> 1.11
[09:22] <tjaalton> either that or a separate ppa, or both
[09:23] <tjaalton> since the idea was to stage the stack in a ppa and then push it to P when it opens
[09:32] <tjaalton> oh nice, alpha3 installer crashed
[09:35] <tjaalton> tseliot: can you test the -ati from git? could be that i'm unable to install oneiric to test it myself
[09:43] <tseliot> tjaalton: I can probably do that later today
[09:44] <tseliot> tjaalton: you're talking about our git repository, right?
[10:02] <tjaalton> tseliot: yes, today is FF so it should be uploaded today as well
[10:02] <tseliot> tjaalton: what? Wasn't it on August 17?
[10:03] <tjaalton> nope, 11th
[10:03] <tjaalton> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule
[10:03] <tseliot> you're right and I'm already late with some uploads...
[10:35] <tjaalton> synced libxfont 1.4.4-1 to oneiric
[12:06] <Sarvatt> tjaalton, RAOF: ati's version shouldn't be 6.14.99 though
[12:06] <Sarvatt> 6.14.3~
[12:07] <tjaalton> right, it could end up being 6.14.4?
[12:07] <Sarvatt> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati/commit/?id=2fca40ea65d9f2a6f8451c324bb4b82786f34f76 they do that every release
[12:08] <tjaalton> "bump"
[12:09] <tjaalton> Sarvatt: do you have ati gear to test it on? I've yet to hit the store so it could take hours still for me to get a current card
[12:14] <Sarvatt> nothing on oneiric, no. any idea when the cutoff is?
[12:15] <tjaalton> today is FF
[12:15] <Sarvatt> yeah when today I mean
[12:15] <tjaalton> ah, dunno
[12:15] <tjaalton> synced -siliconmotion
[12:16] <tjaalton> merged xterm
[12:16] <Sarvatt> with my luck oneiric upgrades are broken with everyone shoving crap in
[12:16]  * Sarvatt checks
[12:17] <Sarvatt> i'll start an upgrade on my hd5770 machine to test it out, looks like only ubuntuone and multiarch are busted
[12:26] <Sarvatt> tseliot: i wasnt planning on putting 1.11 in edgers until october probably, is ati asking for it or something?
[12:34] <tjaalton> crap, forgot that pbuilder works now, should probably try the builds first
[13:00] <tjaalton> I'm removing the silly locales from libx11
[13:53] <tjaalton> hum, can't see any reason not to grab xkeyboard-config 2.3-1 from experimental
[14:07] <jcristau> do you know who's taking care of CVE-2011-2895 for ubuntu?
[14:07] <ubot4> jcristau: ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem.  When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2011-2895)
[14:07] <tjaalton> jcristau: is it the libxfont one?
[14:07] <jcristau> yes
[14:07] <tjaalton> I synced it to oneiric, other versions are not done yet
[14:08] <jcristau> i was wondering if there was some sort of test case or something
[14:08] <Sarvatt> kees: any idea about the above?
[14:08] <tjaalton> hmm dunno. mdeslaur, do you know ^?
[14:08] <tjaalton> :)
[14:08] <tjaalton> echo
[14:09] <Sarvatt> ah whoops, sorry if I pinged the wrong person :)
[14:09] <jcristau> that code hasn't changed in forever anyway, so it doesn't look like a risky cherry-pick
[14:10] <mdeslaur> let me look, one sec
[14:13] <mdeslaur> jcristau: I don't see any test cases for the security fix
[14:13] <jcristau> thanks for checking
[14:20] <tjaalton> meh, xkeyboard-config failed to build, have to check it later.. gone for ~3h ->
[15:43] <Sarvatt> tjaalton, RAOF: an hour stress testing the ati checkout in git with no problems, ship it :)
[15:44] <Sarvatt> of course theres a new bugfix today
[16:22] <tseliot> tjaalton: I don't think I'll be able to test -ati today
[16:42] <tseliot> ah, good, Robert tested it
[17:26] <tjaalton> Sarvatt: cool, and I got a new HD6450 ready for testing :)
[17:49] <tjaalton> dh_autoreconf: (intltoolize -c -f && autoreconf -vfi) (intltoolize -c -f && autoreconf -vfi) failed to to execute: No such file or directory
[17:49] <tjaalton> what the hell
[18:00] <tjaalton> not even the debian branch builds
[18:00] <tjaalton> of xkeyboard-config
[18:06] <Sarvatt> its the override_dh_autoreconf section in the rules screwing it up
[18:07] <tjaalton> hum yes, obviously, but why
[18:16] <tjaalton> removing '--' made it build, but dunno if it does what it's supposed to do
[18:20] <tjaalton> apparently it does
[18:54] <tjaalton> tseliot: what are those -updates blobs for?
[19:07] <Sarvatt> ricotz: so can I just pull in oneiric wayland packages to natty directly in edgers?
[19:07] <Sarvatt> mesa needs it
[19:08] <tjaalton> xkeyboard-config uploaded.. now how do I create that ati tarball with pristine-tar..
[19:09] <ricotz> Sarvatt, already have
[19:11] <tjaalton> ha, created it
[19:11] <Sarvatt> ricotz: ah we need ubuntu3
[19:11] <Sarvatt> ricotz: and it has to be ubuntu3whatever~natty
[19:12] <ricotz> Sarvatt, 3 doesnt have any relevant changes, but i can upload it
[19:12] <Sarvatt> or else the build dep wont get satisfied by ubuntu3~edgers~natty being lower than ubuntu3
[19:12] <ricotz> building against ubuntu2 is fine
[19:12] <ricotz> ah
[19:13] <ricotz> i see what you mean
[19:13] <bryceh> hmm, looks like something is screwy with the intel apport hook transition - see bug #824023
[19:13] <Sarvatt> i can add a hook to fix it in mesa but seems easier to just reupload the ubuntu3 wayland and be done with it
[19:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 824023 in xdiagnose (Ubuntu) "package xdiagnose (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/apport/apport-gpu-error-intel.py', which is also in package xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.14.0-4ubuntu7.2 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824023
[19:14] <bryceh> tjaalton, do we need to add a conflicts or something in xdiagnose to the -intel driver to ensure the upgrades occur in proper order?
[19:14] <ricotz> Sarvatt, uploading 3 wont help with the next mesa build it will the same problem
[19:14] <Sarvatt> not if you do ubuntu3edgers~natty
[19:14] <ricotz> mhh, right
[19:14] <ricotz> on sec
[19:14] <ricotz> one sec
[19:16] <Sarvatt> they changed the PPA docs to recommend using XubuntuYppa1 instead of XubuntuY~ppa1 and it makes lots of sense so you dont have to change build deps on everything
[19:16] <tjaalton> bryceh: seems like it
[19:16] <ricotz> Sarvatt, this of course will break the upgrade path
[19:17] <Sarvatt> which upgrade path? the one already broken in edgers by everything being newer than the next release? :P
[19:17] <tjaalton> bryceh: Replaces: xserver-xorg-video-intel (<= 2:2.14.0-4ubuntu7.1),
[19:17] <tjaalton> bryceh: there's your problem :)
[19:17] <bryceh> tjaalton, ah, what should that be?  Conflicts?
[19:17] <bryceh> oh, 7.2 aha
[19:17] <tjaalton> bryceh: use (< $version_thats_not_going_to_get_in_natty) :)
[19:17] <bryceh> yep
[19:18] <tjaalton> like (< 2:2.15)
[19:18] <ricotz> Sarvatt, right, but still in this case it is a copy from oneiric which should be replaced by the original one, anyway i will upload it
[19:18] <ricotz> ;)
[19:18] <tjaalton> btw, oneiric is totally broken on the HD6450 with -ati
[19:18] <bryceh> 2:2.14.0-4ubuntu8 should be sufficient, no?
[19:19] <tjaalton> lets see if the snapshot changes anything, though I think it's kernel at fault
[19:19] <tjaalton> bryceh: yeah
[19:21] <Sarvatt> tjaalton: pci id?
[19:21] <Sarvatt> which caicos is it?
[19:25] <tjaalton> Sarvatt: well, it loads but gfx totally corrupted. and can't get the id since I can't log in :P (and no sshd yet)
[19:25] <Sarvatt> nomodeset time
[19:25] <tjaalton> ah, right
[19:31] <tjaalton> with nomodeset it just hung with a blinking cursor
[19:33] <tjaalton> wait, it was just the keyboard that stopped working during boot, until I reconnected it
[19:34] <Sarvatt> ricotz: debhelper 8.1.2ubuntu2 is enough for wayland on natty, we had the multiarch stuff backported to it before 8.1.3 (sorry if ya already were fixing it)
[19:34] <tjaalton> 1002:6779
[19:35] <Sarvatt> hrm "support" for that was there, anything in your dmesg from the old boots in /var/log/kern.log hopefully?
[19:36] <tjaalton> oh yes
[19:38] <ricotz> Sarvatt, sorry, uploaded again
[19:39] <Sarvatt> ricotz: thank you thank you :)
[19:39] <tjaalton> http://pastebin.com/7eJaQhiQ
[19:39] <Sarvatt> ricotz: btw i'm hoping to have xserver 1.11 in there way sooner than expected (like in the next week or so), rememebered ya asking about it
[19:40] <ricotz> oh, nice
[19:40] <Sarvatt> tjaalton: disable the intel IGP in the bios
[19:41] <tjaalton> Sarvatt: no such thing
[19:41] <Sarvatt> its the SDP right? sure there is
[19:41] <tjaalton> this is an old Asus P5K board
[19:41] <Sarvatt> oh
[19:41] <tjaalton> rock solid :)
[19:42] <tjaalton> i'll build 3.1rc1 tomorrow to try
[19:44] <tjaalton> ati uploaded
[19:45] <tjaalton> looks like apart from the pending xserver merge we got every new upstream version uploaded in time :P
[19:46] <Sarvatt> tjaalton: do you have cryptsetup installed? is radeon in your initrd?
[19:46] <tjaalton> Sarvatt: this is a fresh natty install, upgraded to oneiric, without cryptocrap
[19:46]  * tjaalton grabs a sierra nevada
[19:46] <Sarvatt> tjaalton: you can do a sudo mv /lib/plymouth/renderers/drm.so{,.bak} to get the desktop up for now, i dont know how to disable a single plymouth backend at runtime :P
[19:47] <tjaalton> heh, thats ok, I don't need the box
[19:47] <tjaalton> might just build the new kernel first to see if it helps
[19:47] <tjaalton> ok, EOD for me
[19:48] <Sarvatt> way past that eh? :P
[19:55] <tjaalton> yeah, indeed
[20:22] <Sarvatt> RAOF: err, they're talking about reverting the vblank patch and reintroducing the compiz hangs on all intels again on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/814325
[20:22] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 814325 in linux (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "fuzzy and corrupted display with update in natty-proposed (affects: 1) (heat: 18)" [High,Triaged]
[21:04] <tseliot> tjaalton: to keep drivers updated during the stable release cycle
[21:04]  * tseliot -> offline
[21:18] <tjaalton> Sarvatt: oops, right. I thought it was the one which fixed dualscreen setup.. still, would be too bad to revert that
[21:52] <Sarvatt> bryceh: do you have natty on that arrandale?
[21:53] <bryceh> Sarvatt, no, oneiric
[21:53] <bryceh> (and wayland *grin*)
[21:54] <Sarvatt> if you have any spare time, could ya try installing the 2.6.38-11 kernel from natty-proposed and seeing if you can reproduce this with the script on comment 12? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/814325
[21:54] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 814325 in linux (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "fuzzy and corrupted display with update in natty-proposed (affects: 1) (heat: 24)" [High,Triaged]
[22:25] <RAOF> Sarvatt: I suspect that maybe http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.xorg.drivers.intel/5423 will be the fix for that.
[22:26] <RAOF> Well, the two patches in that thread.
[22:27] <Sarvatt> RAOF: sorry about that ping earlier, I misread and thought they were reverting the compiz fix and in the process of my net dying 3 times forgot to mention that
[22:27] <RAOF> That's ok.  You're welcome to ping me while I'm safely asleep :)