[00:01] Have fun :) [00:33] bryceh, are you still around? [00:33] RAOF, or are you around? [00:33] I am, yes. [00:34] cnd: What can I do you for? [00:34] RAOF, would you be able to upload a new utouch-qml package for me? [00:34] Sure. [00:34] I need it in before feature freeze, and it's not in the utouch package set yet... [00:34] bzr branch lp:utouch-qml/ubuntu [00:34] uscan [00:34] bzr bd -S [00:35] sign and upload [00:35] I suppose the uscan should be uscan --download-current-version [00:35] It should indeed :) [00:35] RAOF, you'll need bzr-builddeb installed [00:36] alternatively, I can upload a prebuild package somewhere for you to sign [00:36] prebuilt* [00:36] I see that no-one's in a position to review your XI 2.1 protocol series :/ [00:36] RAOF, upstream on the mailing list? [00:37] Yeah. [00:37] whot will be [00:37] he's already emailed me to let me know he will review them soon [00:37] just got a bit of work to get out of the way [00:37] we're in pretty good communication [00:37] Huzzah! [00:38] I don't know if anyone else is going to review though [00:39] It only really needs whot's review, right? [00:39] I guess Daniel's would be valuable, too. [00:39] Man, X input doesn't have a very high bus factor :/ [00:41] yeah, daniels would be nice but I think whot is the real gatekeeper [00:43] You seem to have a bunch of 'libutouch-qml-doc: non-standard-file-perm usr/share/doc/utouch-qml/html/bc_s.png 0664 != 0644' lintian warnings in that package. [00:44] hmmm, I've not seen those warnings before [00:44] it's likely due to doxygen [00:44] Yeah, likely. [00:44] well, it's definitely due to doxygen [00:45] I'll try and rebuild from scratch to see if I get those warnings [00:45] Is there any easy way to test this? [00:46] RAOF, do you have a multitouch device? [00:46] BAH! bluetooth is broken, so my magic touchpad won't work. [00:46] synaptics perhaps? [00:46] Got a synaptics here; how can I tell if it's sufficeiently multitouch? [00:47] you can install qt4-qmlviewer [00:47] then run qmlviewer examples/eventprinter/eventprinter.qml [00:47] Ah. When I say "synaptics", what I actually mean is "Alps GlidePoint" [00:47] heh [00:47] nope, won't work [00:47] (yet) [00:48] I've found that linux 3.0.0-7 works, but bluetooth doesn't work before that and hid-magicmouse (for the magic trackpad) doesn't work in 3.0.0-8 [00:48] something else I need to track down... [00:49] RAOF, I only get the one lintian warning about the embedded javascript library [00:49] which is also a doxygen issue [00:50] doxygen likes to ship a version of jquery that is different than the upstream version [00:50] so you can't do the "correct" thing and symlink to the upstream version [00:50] Hm. This is possibly a pkgbinarymangler bug. All those pngs have been touched by optipng. [00:51] what's optipng? [00:51] The thing we use to squeeze ever tinier slivers of CD space out of packages. [00:51] It's a png optimiser that pkgbinarymangler runs. [00:51] I'm guessing it's only invoked when it's installed [00:51] cause I don't have it installed [00:52] Indeed. [00:52] pkgbinarymangler hooks into dpkg somewhere. [00:52] I'll install it and see if that makes it occur [00:52] then we'll know for sure [00:53] nope, that still didn't do it [00:54] oh, I don't have pkgbinarymangler installed [00:55] well, the pngs were modified, but still no lintian warnings [00:55] so I don't know why you're seeing them [00:55] Anyway, looks sufficiently good; uploaded. [00:55] Hm. Maybe my sbuild setup is slightly strange. [00:55] cool, thanks again! [00:55] are you all dist-upgraded? [00:57] Yeah. [00:58] I lost my libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 :( [00:58] ummm, ok? [00:58] was it near and dear to your heart? [00:58] Terribly! [00:58] Or, rather, it was near and dear to my wine. [00:59] God knows when ia32-libs was last updated. [00:59] It'll work once libc is fixed again. [01:00] I thought ia32-libs was going to go away [01:04] Yeah, but it doesn't look like it will for oneiric. [01:05] But you *can* install the i386 version of mesa, which does basically everything you want from multiarch, anyway :) [01:06] cool [01:07] Oh, whoops. You can as long as you've got a multiarch'd libpciaccess, such as I've got here :) [01:31] RAOF, is your system still using 20gb of ram per process? [01:32] bjsnider: Still? To what do you refer? [01:32] you said all your ram is used up because x clients grab huge amounts of it [01:33] but i guess the problem has been resolved [01:33] That may have been compiz going mad? [07:39] tjaalton, hi, i hope you dont forget about libx11 [07:41] ricotz: nope [07:42] was FF today? [07:42] so it seems [07:42] I'll do that and some other merges then [07:44] tjaalton, yes, FF is today ;), thanks [07:47] tjaalton: While we're in the upload-before-FF games, could you please test the -ati in alioth? I'd test it locally, but my ati machine has spent the past 6 hours updating and still isn't finished. [07:48] RAOF: oops, same problem here too. my test build is still on natty, though it would only take ~1h to update i guess [07:48] I only have an old firegl though [07:50] Ok. This HD 5450 should finish updating *sometime* soon, I guess :) [07:51] is hd6xxx supported yet? [07:52] Should be. [07:52] Although I think that might depend on the exact value of xxx. [07:52] good, I could buy a hd6450 based card, passively cooled and only ~50EUR [08:05] tjaalton: Gah. It's EOD here. Could you please test -ati and upload if it's sane? [08:06] I have no idea when my test box will be available to actually test on :/ [08:10] RAOF: yeah, can do [08:54] hmm, not enough space on disk, best to just reinstall the sucker then. faster too [09:20] Sarvatt, RAOF: are there any plans to put the new X in xorg-edgers? [09:20] 1.11 [09:22] either that or a separate ppa, or both [09:23] since the idea was to stage the stack in a ppa and then push it to P when it opens [09:32] oh nice, alpha3 installer crashed === yofel_ is now known as yofel [09:35] tseliot: can you test the -ati from git? could be that i'm unable to install oneiric to test it myself [09:43] tjaalton: I can probably do that later today [09:44] tjaalton: you're talking about our git repository, right? [10:02] tseliot: yes, today is FF so it should be uploaded today as well [10:02] tjaalton: what? Wasn't it on August 17? [10:03] nope, 11th [10:03] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule [10:03] you're right and I'm already late with some uploads... [10:35] synced libxfont 1.4.4-1 to oneiric [12:06] tjaalton, RAOF: ati's version shouldn't be 6.14.99 though [12:06] 6.14.3~ [12:07] right, it could end up being 6.14.4? [12:07] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati/commit/?id=2fca40ea65d9f2a6f8451c324bb4b82786f34f76 they do that every release [12:08] "bump" [12:09] Sarvatt: do you have ati gear to test it on? I've yet to hit the store so it could take hours still for me to get a current card [12:14] nothing on oneiric, no. any idea when the cutoff is? [12:15] today is FF [12:15] yeah when today I mean [12:15] ah, dunno [12:15] synced -siliconmotion [12:16] merged xterm [12:16] with my luck oneiric upgrades are broken with everyone shoving crap in [12:16] * Sarvatt checks [12:17] i'll start an upgrade on my hd5770 machine to test it out, looks like only ubuntuone and multiarch are busted [12:26] tseliot: i wasnt planning on putting 1.11 in edgers until october probably, is ati asking for it or something? [12:34] crap, forgot that pbuilder works now, should probably try the builds first === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [13:00] I'm removing the silly locales from libx11 [13:53] hum, can't see any reason not to grab xkeyboard-config 2.3-1 from experimental [14:07] do you know who's taking care of CVE-2011-2895 for ubuntu? [14:07] jcristau: ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2011-2895) [14:07] jcristau: is it the libxfont one? [14:07] yes [14:07] I synced it to oneiric, other versions are not done yet [14:08] i was wondering if there was some sort of test case or something [14:08] kees: any idea about the above? [14:08] hmm dunno. mdeslaur, do you know ^? [14:08] :) [14:08] echo [14:09] ah whoops, sorry if I pinged the wrong person :) [14:09] that code hasn't changed in forever anyway, so it doesn't look like a risky cherry-pick [14:10] let me look, one sec [14:13] jcristau: I don't see any test cases for the security fix [14:13] thanks for checking [14:20] meh, xkeyboard-config failed to build, have to check it later.. gone for ~3h -> [15:43] tjaalton, RAOF: an hour stress testing the ati checkout in git with no problems, ship it :) [15:44] of course theres a new bugfix today [16:22] tjaalton: I don't think I'll be able to test -ati today [16:42] ah, good, Robert tested it [17:26] Sarvatt: cool, and I got a new HD6450 ready for testing :) [17:49] dh_autoreconf: (intltoolize -c -f && autoreconf -vfi) (intltoolize -c -f && autoreconf -vfi) failed to to execute: No such file or directory [17:49] what the hell [18:00] not even the debian branch builds [18:00] of xkeyboard-config [18:06] its the override_dh_autoreconf section in the rules screwing it up [18:07] hum yes, obviously, but why [18:16] removing '--' made it build, but dunno if it does what it's supposed to do [18:20] apparently it does [18:54] tseliot: what are those -updates blobs for? [19:07] ricotz: so can I just pull in oneiric wayland packages to natty directly in edgers? [19:07] mesa needs it [19:08] xkeyboard-config uploaded.. now how do I create that ati tarball with pristine-tar.. [19:09] Sarvatt, already have [19:11] ha, created it [19:11] ricotz: ah we need ubuntu3 [19:11] ricotz: and it has to be ubuntu3whatever~natty [19:12] Sarvatt, 3 doesnt have any relevant changes, but i can upload it [19:12] or else the build dep wont get satisfied by ubuntu3~edgers~natty being lower than ubuntu3 [19:12] building against ubuntu2 is fine [19:12] ah [19:13] i see what you mean [19:13] hmm, looks like something is screwy with the intel apport hook transition - see bug #824023 [19:13] i can add a hook to fix it in mesa but seems easier to just reupload the ubuntu3 wayland and be done with it [19:13] Launchpad bug 824023 in xdiagnose (Ubuntu) "package xdiagnose (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/apport/apport-gpu-error-intel.py', which is also in package xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.14.0-4ubuntu7.2 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824023 [19:14] tjaalton, do we need to add a conflicts or something in xdiagnose to the -intel driver to ensure the upgrades occur in proper order? [19:14] Sarvatt, uploading 3 wont help with the next mesa build it will the same problem [19:14] not if you do ubuntu3edgers~natty [19:14] mhh, right [19:14] on sec [19:14] one sec [19:16] they changed the PPA docs to recommend using XubuntuYppa1 instead of XubuntuY~ppa1 and it makes lots of sense so you dont have to change build deps on everything [19:16] bryceh: seems like it [19:16] Sarvatt, this of course will break the upgrade path [19:17] which upgrade path? the one already broken in edgers by everything being newer than the next release? :P [19:17] bryceh: Replaces: xserver-xorg-video-intel (<= 2:2.14.0-4ubuntu7.1), [19:17] bryceh: there's your problem :) [19:17] tjaalton, ah, what should that be? Conflicts? [19:17] oh, 7.2 aha [19:17] bryceh: use (< $version_thats_not_going_to_get_in_natty) :) [19:17] yep [19:18] like (< 2:2.15) [19:18] Sarvatt, right, but still in this case it is a copy from oneiric which should be replaced by the original one, anyway i will upload it [19:18] ;) [19:18] btw, oneiric is totally broken on the HD6450 with -ati [19:18] 2:2.14.0-4ubuntu8 should be sufficient, no? [19:19] lets see if the snapshot changes anything, though I think it's kernel at fault [19:19] bryceh: yeah [19:21] tjaalton: pci id? [19:21] which caicos is it? [19:25] Sarvatt: well, it loads but gfx totally corrupted. and can't get the id since I can't log in :P (and no sshd yet) [19:25] nomodeset time [19:25] ah, right [19:31] with nomodeset it just hung with a blinking cursor [19:33] wait, it was just the keyboard that stopped working during boot, until I reconnected it [19:34] ricotz: debhelper 8.1.2ubuntu2 is enough for wayland on natty, we had the multiarch stuff backported to it before 8.1.3 (sorry if ya already were fixing it) [19:34] 1002:6779 [19:35] hrm "support" for that was there, anything in your dmesg from the old boots in /var/log/kern.log hopefully? [19:36] oh yes [19:38] Sarvatt, sorry, uploaded again [19:39] ricotz: thank you thank you :) [19:39] http://pastebin.com/7eJaQhiQ [19:39] ricotz: btw i'm hoping to have xserver 1.11 in there way sooner than expected (like in the next week or so), rememebered ya asking about it [19:40] oh, nice [19:40] tjaalton: disable the intel IGP in the bios [19:41] Sarvatt: no such thing [19:41] its the SDP right? sure there is [19:41] this is an old Asus P5K board [19:41] oh [19:41] rock solid :) [19:42] i'll build 3.1rc1 tomorrow to try [19:44] ati uploaded [19:45] looks like apart from the pending xserver merge we got every new upstream version uploaded in time :P [19:46] tjaalton: do you have cryptsetup installed? is radeon in your initrd? [19:46] Sarvatt: this is a fresh natty install, upgraded to oneiric, without cryptocrap [19:46] * tjaalton grabs a sierra nevada [19:46] tjaalton: you can do a sudo mv /lib/plymouth/renderers/drm.so{,.bak} to get the desktop up for now, i dont know how to disable a single plymouth backend at runtime :P [19:47] heh, thats ok, I don't need the box [19:47] might just build the new kernel first to see if it helps [19:47] ok, EOD for me [19:48] way past that eh? :P [19:55] yeah, indeed [20:22] RAOF: err, they're talking about reverting the vblank patch and reintroducing the compiz hangs on all intels again on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/814325 [20:22] Launchpad bug 814325 in linux (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "fuzzy and corrupted display with update in natty-proposed (affects: 1) (heat: 18)" [High,Triaged] === gord is now known as Guest84927 [21:04] tjaalton: to keep drivers updated during the stable release cycle [21:04] * tseliot -> offline [21:18] Sarvatt: oops, right. I thought it was the one which fixed dualscreen setup.. still, would be too bad to revert that === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:52] bryceh: do you have natty on that arrandale? [21:53] Sarvatt, no, oneiric [21:53] (and wayland *grin*) [21:54] if you have any spare time, could ya try installing the 2.6.38-11 kernel from natty-proposed and seeing if you can reproduce this with the script on comment 12? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/814325 [21:54] Launchpad bug 814325 in linux (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "fuzzy and corrupted display with update in natty-proposed (affects: 1) (heat: 24)" [High,Triaged] [22:25] Sarvatt: I suspect that maybe http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.xorg.drivers.intel/5423 will be the fix for that. [22:26] Well, the two patches in that thread. [22:27] RAOF: sorry about that ping earlier, I misread and thought they were reverting the compiz fix and in the process of my net dying 3 times forgot to mention that [22:27] That's ok. You're welcome to ping me while I'm safely asleep :)