| Unit193 | daily-live is a no go for now (Build failed) daily installs for 32 following notes: Guest is back (working), we have user select (Unity-greeter with no bg), still need to select the second Xubuntu Session, all menu items are there! | 12:50 |
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| Unit193 | astraljava , gridcube , charlie-tca ^^^ | 12:50 |
| charlie-tca | um, daily-live has failed for three days. | 12:51 |
| charlie-tca | There have been no new images since monday for it | 12:51 |
| charlie-tca | Unit193: thanks for testing! | 12:52 |
| Unit193 | So I shouldn't even bother reminding? | 12:52 |
| Unit193 | charlie-tca: Figured I may as well give you all the info! | 12:52 |
| charlie-tca | yes, remind | 12:52 |
| charlie-tca | It is good to know someone else is trying them | 12:53 |
| Unit193 | Warning: I may have missed a few errors as I was up all night (Isn't Retrieving file *** of 897 in alt install a bit high?) | 12:53 |
| charlie-tca | oh, by the way. The desktop images are being built for today now | 12:54 |
| charlie-tca | might be an hour or two until we get them. | 12:54 |
| charlie-tca | nah, that sounds about right | 12:55 |
| Unit193 | Hope this helps a little more (Know what you're getting into?) | 12:55 |
| charlie-tca | It does. I missed part of that when I looked here | 12:59 |
| charlie-tca | and, jibel was able to find the issue with encrypted /home, too. Now that bug will get worked! | 13:01 |
| Unit193 | So, am I supposed to run that too? | 13:03 |
| Unit193 | Or is there a way to add it after install :P | 13:03 |
| charlie-tca | no! | 13:21 |
| charlie-tca | at this time, there is no way to add users to LVM installs, encrypted or otherwise | 13:21 |
| charlie-tca | We have to wait for a fix. | 13:22 |
| charlie-tca | sorry, I didn't mean to yell | 13:22 |
| Unit193 | Eh, it's fine. Just as long as you're not mad at me ;P | 13:23 |
| charlie-tca | No, I am not mad at you. I am glad you tested the alternates :) | 13:24 |
| Unit193 | Didn't think you were, you would tell me. Maybe I should run with encryption on /home this round | 13:25 |
| charlie-tca | I don't think that is a good idea yet | 13:28 |
| charlie-tca | give it a day or two, see what the bug does first. The drives I tried it on, I could not use any of the previous installs to log back in. | 13:29 |
| charlie-tca | two hard drives in two systems, lost everything on both drives in both systems | 13:29 |
| charlie-tca | FeatureFreeze in 5 hours | 13:31 |
| charlie-tca | All Packagers ^ ^ ^ | 13:31 |
| madnick | does that apply to plymouth / greeter packages? | 13:35 |
| charlie-tca | We will get an exception for the greeter. Plymouth is taken care of already | 13:38 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: we have an exception for plymouth? or did someone package the old version? | 13:39 |
| charlie-tca | We can use the old version, it has been there since ??? as far as I know | 13:40 |
| charlie-tca | If not, we ask for the exception. No problem | 13:40 |
| madnick | okay | 13:40 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: if need be, we stick things in the artwork updates, but we will get those in | 14:01 |
| Unit193 | ERROR WHILE BUILDING OFFICIAL IMAGES !!" | 14:04 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: ah okay :) | 14:20 |
| gridcube | http://gridcube.netii.net/test.htm | 14:23 |
| gridcube | I made myself a freewebhosting site and added the top 10 there :D | 14:24 |
| gridcube | well top 5 so far | 14:24 |
| charlie-tca | meeting minutes are out, too, now | 15:12 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: robert ancell is back on holidays, now that the summit is over. He might be back in another week. | 15:15 |
| madnick | hopefully, there won't be any changes made that effects greeters in a massive way | 15:23 |
| charlie-tca | um, yeah... other than the actual configuration keeps changing every day or two | 15:42 |
| charlie-tca | but, hey, what's a little thing like changing the way it works, right? | 15:43 |
| charlie-tca | Got hopes they will quit changing things starting today, and work on just making it work. | 15:44 |
| astraljava | Unit193: Yeah, I don't really have time to test this week, it seems. We're busy with a bitchy-ass hungarian testing our friggin' software. | 15:45 |
| Unit193 | astraljava: Just pinging you because you're one of us :P Great to hear of the other meeting though! | 15:46 |
| madnick | Not sure why Ubuntu is pushing out software so fast, software thats not even really done :) | 15:48 |
| madnick | Like LightDM, Plymouth and Unity | 15:48 |
| charlie-tca | Such things happen | 15:48 |
| madnick | Its bound to be hard for distros building upon ubuntu | 15:48 |
| charlie-tca | um, yes, it is very hard for those of us outside the main Ubuntu stuff to try and keep making things work | 15:49 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: as seen by how often Ubuntu works and Mythbuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, UbuntuStudio won't? | 15:51 |
| Unit193 | Kubuntu is using KDM and Lubuntu is using LXDM so that cuts out quite a few issues | 15:53 |
| madnick | Yeah | 15:53 |
| charlie-tca | They are using those because lightdm won't work for them | 15:53 |
| charlie-tca | They do plan on using lightdm, though | 15:54 |
| charlie-tca | They are waiting for Xubuntu to get the kinks out first :) | 15:54 |
| madnick | Was oschii going to be away the entire week btw? | 15:55 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 15:56 |
| charlie-tca | or was it two weeks? | 15:56 |
| madnick | oh | 15:56 |
| charlie-tca | micahg, mr_pouit, all other devs: Consider the Feature Freeze time adjusted to 2100 UTC. | 15:57 |
| Unit193 | Last chance to dump LightDM? | 15:58 |
| charlie-tca | heh, no need. gdm is still there, just have to change things around and muck with it to make it work, since they upgraded it to gnome3 | 15:59 |
| Unit193 | GTK3 or Gnome3? | 16:00 |
| charlie-tca | um, both, I think | 16:00 |
| charlie-tca | It means it won't "just work" for xubuntu, you have to work hard to make it usable for us. | 16:00 |
| Unit193 | Heh, not harder than LightDM | 16:01 |
| Unit193 | Anywho, it was a joke | 16:01 |
| charlie-tca | tossup lol! | 16:01 |
| Unit193 | I found it odd that KDM worked better than Slim or LXDM with no config | 16:02 |
| Unit193 | In Xubuntu oneiric | 16:02 |
| charlie-tca | Keep that one in mind, we might need it yet | 16:03 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: thanks | 16:32 |
| === gridcube is now known as GridCube | ||
| charlie-tca | Unit193: being in -ops doesn't mean I can remember things :( | 18:14 |
| charlie-tca | Every time I try to change one of those things, I have to go find how again | 18:14 |
| Unit193 | charlie-tca: That's fine, I was asking for follow up. I get to learn on a bot that has Ubottu Encyclopedia | 18:14 |
| Unit193 | Ping me if you wish | 18:15 |
| charlie-tca | heh, That's a deal! | 18:15 |
| charlie-tca | I only been doing this IRC thing for about three years, I guess it takes time to learn | 18:15 |
| Unit193 | And there is about 7M type of IRC bots :P | 18:16 |
| charlie-tca | Oh, great | 18:16 |
| Unit193 | I can name Supybot, DarkBot, Eggdrop, rbot, and limnoria just off the top of my head | 18:20 |
| charlie-tca | Well, that certainly makes it more difficult. | 18:22 |
| charlie-tca | I just need to learn these things ubuntu uses | 18:22 |
| astraljava | madnick: The way I see it, Ubuntu, while creating a pretty friggin' huge buzz, still somehow knows how not to take itself too seriously. If you know what I mean? | 18:24 |
| charlie-tca | +1 | 18:25 |
| astraljava | Like not taking the safe, secure way, leaning against the tried and true software. | 18:25 |
| Unit193 | http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins#Encyclopedia | 18:25 |
| astraljava | Personally, I'm a huge fan of it. | 18:25 |
| charlie-tca | I am starting to see some benefits of not running "the latest and breaking-est" | 18:27 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe I been running broken too long? | 18:27 |
| astraljava | Well, sure, that takes on ya, but that's why you have the stable machine for, right? :) | 18:39 |
| charlie-tca | huh? stable machine? | 18:52 |
| charlie-tca | That's what is missing/ | 18:52 |
| charlie-tca | ? | 18:52 |
| charlie-tca | Isn't that what I use for at least a month every release? | 18:53 |
| astraljava | Oh okay. :) | 18:54 |
| astraljava | I have 6 desktops, plus the laptop, so I have one stable desktop, and the others are for different tests. The laptop is from work, so it's gotta be more or less stable. | 18:54 |
| astraljava | But since I don't really store much data on it, it doesn't really matter whether it gets b0rked and reinstalled periodically. | 18:55 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, I could see that. I tend to run the development versions from about alpha1. | 18:55 |
| charlie-tca | About the time I think I found something I like, it breaks | 18:56 |
| astraljava | Yeah, that sucks. | 18:58 |
| charlie-tca | I have to think it might help sometimes, but other times, it ain't so much fun. | 18:59 |
| astraljava | Oh it ain't fun. As soon as we're done with the projects at work that we're battling now, I'm reinstalling, and going with Xubuntu. The vanilla 11.04 sucks 4$$. | 19:02 |
| charlie-tca | I had no idea. I just keep trying with this one | 19:03 |
| charlie-tca | Although oneiric has been so much fun, I may have to reinstall when we hit beta2, just to see what I really have | 19:04 |
| astraljava | Yeah, good plan. | 19:21 |
| === micahg_ is now known as micahg | ||
| micahg | do we need a new version of anything before feature freeze? | 20:48 |
| Unit193 | I may have missed it, but midori is for sure not going in I would guess | 20:48 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: That happens in 4 minutes | 20:57 |
| micahg | Unit193: huh? I updated midori to 0.4.0 already | 20:57 |
| charlie-tca | Debian been doing about 30-40 updates in the last two days on bugs | 20:57 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: doesn't matter much, I'm notorious for FFes ;) | 20:57 |
| charlie-tca | Great! We will have our share. Lightdm still has changes being done today | 20:58 |
| charlie-tca | and robert ancell is on holidays for at least the next week | 20:58 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: did you like that bug I filed last night? | 20:58 |
| charlie-tca | yeah, I thought it was good | 20:58 |
| charlie-tca | I wish they would quit closing them just because they fixed unity, though | 20:59 |
| Unit193 | I'm a little confused, Midori is currently in daily? It's not from the install this morning... | 21:04 |
| micahg | no, charlie-tca said we don't need it | 21:05 |
| Unit193 | Alright, that's what I thought | 21:05 |
| charlie-tca | We didn't add it by default | 21:05 |
| micahg | yeah, that's what I meant :) | 21:05 |
| micahg | we can make another meta upload still if something else is missing | 21:05 |
| charlie-tca | Did we get pastebinit in? | 21:06 |
| micahg | yep, recommends on desktop, wasn't sure if you wanted it in -desktop or live only | 21:07 |
| * Unit193 just looked before :P | 21:07 | |
| charlie-tca | Wanted it in the installed stuff, since that's when we need it most | 21:09 |
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| madnick | back on sundays? | 21:11 |
| charlie-tca | Alternates mondays and sundays | 21:12 |
| madnick | oh okay | 21:12 |
| Unit193 | I'm sure you can't have something installed by defualt with --no-install-recommends ? | 21:14 |
| Unit193 | alacarte could be handy, but it recommends Unity and friends | 21:15 |
| charlie-tca | By the time this "not a developer" learns all this stuff, I won't need it any more. | 21:16 |
| charlie-tca | alacarte depends on gnome-menu directly | 21:16 |
| charlie-tca | which breaks it bad for Xubuntu | 21:16 |
| micahg | which is why we don't see it :) | 21:16 |
| micahg | *seed | 21:16 |
| Unit193 | --no-install-recommends got me just alacarte and nothing else in oneiric | 21:17 |
| charlie-tca | and it actually works? | 21:17 |
| Unit193 | Oddly, yes. Need a screenshot? | 21:18 |
| charlie-tca | no, it failed when I tried that | 21:18 |
| Unit193 | Used to for me also http://ubuntuone.com/p/19oo/ | 21:19 |
| * micahg thought it required gnome-menus | 21:24 | |
| charlie-tca | It does | 21:24 |
| charlie-tca | at least according to the Debian bug report | 21:25 |
| charlie-tca | Unit193: you running a xubuntu install with nothing added from gnome? | 21:25 |
| Unit193 | Look at terminal in the bg | 21:25 |
| Unit193 | Anyway, it's a recommends | 21:26 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe it got changed after the last round | 21:28 |
| Unit193 | I dunno, I just tried it :/ | 21:28 |
| charlie-tca | That was a pretty mean battle last time. Maybe... | 21:29 |
| charlie-tca | If it works, at least we can users to install it that way | 21:30 |
| Unit193 | Yeah, it's not needed, but it can be helpful | 21:30 |
| charlie-tca | Some users really want to be able to edit the menus | 21:32 |
| === xrdodrx` is now known as xrdodrx | ||
| charlie-tca | Final request to the Strategy Document change sent out to both Mailing Lists | 22:47 |
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