=== Dan`ka is now known as Dan`ka|sleep [03:49] Okay, that is strange... [03:50] Installing the Nvidia driver... During the kernel mod build it isn't auto blacklisting Nouveau. Even removing/purging nouveau doesn't do the trick. [03:50] Causes tons of breakage... [04:27] oops, accidentally overwrote the packaging changes in the last two muon uploads. [04:27] perhaps it's time to bzr that [04:31] ScottK: oh, I upstreamed your settings patch [04:32] JontheEchidna: Great. Thanks. I think it's a safer way to go. [04:32] yeah, probably. Unsigned repos aren't as common these days thanks to add-apt-repository [04:33] convenience wins 'em over :P [04:35] not that the repos themselves aren't signed, but at least I'm not adding them w/o the gpg key thanks to add-apt-repository [04:35] whereas I probably wouldn't have bothered before [07:06] Good morning [07:06] yofel, rbelem: get ready to work :P [07:31] * Quintasan takes a look at s-l-c once again and the goes to show around the city to the guests [08:07] Quintasan: morning [08:12] yofel: Quintasan: hi [08:12] yofel: don’t look for mails, look for Kubuntu Active :P [08:15] rbelem: if you add new install files, please make sure you take anything you install out from the not-installed file [08:17] [kdelibs] Philip Muškovac * 372 * debian/not-installed remove now installed file from not-installed [08:19] yofel: go on :) [09:43] Quintasan: where's your gles package? [09:50] [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace] Philip Muškovac * 549 * debian/ (changelog kde-workspace-dev.install not-installed) Add libkwineffects headers and unversioned .so back to kde-workspace-dev since there are 3rd party apps that need it. [09:51] and why the hell doesn't bazaar ask me anymore whether I want to edit the commit message before committing?? [09:51] Riddell: ^ [09:52] yofel: because it matches debcommit in just using the debian/changelog [09:52] yeah, but before it asked me whether I want to use that, now it just goes ahead and commits - that intentional? [09:53] yes, it matches debcommit's behaviour [09:53] but feel free to argue on bug 812749 [09:53] Launchpad bug 812749 in bzr-builddeb "Misuses bzr 2.4's new set_commit_message hook to disable editor prompting for a commit message entirely" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812749 [09:53] ah, thanks [10:11] Quintasan, morning [10:12] rbelem: we're going for lunch now, back soon [10:12] yofel, oki :-) [10:14] yofel, i was using the debian/rules list-missing [10:25] yofel: why doesn't kross-interpreters build krossruby? === Dan`ka|sleep is now known as Dan`ka [11:02] rbelem: well, it still was in not-installed, I fixed it anyway [11:03] debfx: uh, debian dropped it and IIRC it didn't build in 4.6.80 or so, haven't looked at it later [11:03] yofel: nowhere, since I can't say the headers are dropped in our bzr branch [11:04] Quintasan: because I added them back, can you push what you have *somewhere* so I can take an attempt at debugging debianabimanager? [11:04] yofel: Do we REALLY need the headers? [11:05] yofel: MoDaX already told me it can't handle two same CMake build targets [11:05] Quintasan: if you don't want them talk to martin how that can be solved differently. He explicitly requested that we ship them [11:05] Ah, that changes everything [11:05] I'll push my branch in a few minutes [11:05] without kwineeffects [11:10] yofel: lp:~quintasan/kubuntu-packaging/kde-workspace [11:10] That has everything except kwineffects [11:18] yofel, which file was not installed? [11:18] rbelem: no, you installed all, but we have a debian/not-installed file where we track which files are intentionally not installed [11:18] please update that when you install files that are listed there [11:22] yofel, ok :-) [11:27] Quintasan, i'm getting some undefined referece for qmf, which is a buildep for the qtmobility [11:27] pastebin the build log [11:28] Quintasan, i already fixed some, but i was to tired to fix the rest [11:28] Quintasan, ok [11:28] you are? I just built the package from sid on oneiric [11:28] rbelem: where's your qtmobility package anyway? [11:28] What package are we talking about? [11:29] good question [11:29] Quintasan, qmf [11:29] Quintasan, http://paste.kde.org/108769/ [11:32] right, time to go oneiric baby!! [11:32] rbelem: That looks like something wrong in code: S [11:32] :S* [11:33] more like bad target link libs [11:33] rbelem: what version of qtmobility are you trying to build? [11:33] Quintasan, yup [11:33] http://wstaw.org/m/2011/08/12/plasma-desktopje2188.jpg [11:33] yofel, 1.2 [11:33] shadeslayer: That's broken CMakeLists.txt [11:34] and that's upsteram [11:34] Quintasan: yus [11:34] Quintasan, broken .pro in the case of qmf [11:34] rbelem: why don't you take the debian package? [11:34] rbelem: and modify that? [11:34] *that* built with qmf in oneiric archive btw [11:34] *fine* [11:35] yofel, i did that [11:35] yofel, qmf in the archives is old [11:35] do we need a newer one? [11:36] Don't we have mobility 1.2 in Debian? [11:36] we do [11:36] yofel: We do, at least for simon I think [11:36] yofel, for mobility 1.2 [11:36] Then ScottK can probably sync that [11:36] rbelem: mobility 1.2 builds fine with current qmf here [11:37] yofel, that' s true [11:38] since it is ready in debian lets just sync it [11:39] check if any of our modifications are still needed, if not file a sync request saying that the diff is obsolete, or if yes merge the package [11:40] oki [11:41] esp. interesting is: [11:41] * Remove qmf-dev build-dependency, upstream recommended to build without QMF, disable libqtmessaging1 and libdeclarative-messaging packages [11:41] yofel, it does not have our patches there [11:41] yofel, why they recommend that? [11:42] ask, Riddell, he did that [11:43] yofel, Riddell made some changes in the package [11:43] because QMF is a not very good implementation by Qt Brisbane which nobody is expected to use [11:44] :-) [11:44] Riddell: and why is it used then? [11:44] who uses it? [11:45] Riddell, only nokia maybe [11:45] I'm not sure even Nokia use it [11:45] :-D [11:46] yofel, 3 min to download qtmobility debian [11:48] note that qtmobility 1.2 needs a FFe before it can go into the archive [11:51] yofel, the Riddell changes are already in debian [11:53] re [12:18] does the "Remember authorization" option in the polkit dialog work for anyone? [12:19] looking at the code it seems like the checkbox is not used at all [12:20] debfx: doesn't for me [12:21] shadeslayer: ok, thanks [12:21] I'll just hide those checkboxes === Dan`ka is now known as Dan`ka|cycling [14:02] http://kate-editor.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/kate-in-kde2.2.png [14:02] LOL [14:35] Quintasan, i will finish the other packages, then i ll ping you, ok? [14:36] * bulldog98 wants debdelta [14:41] i'll settle for super compressed packages :P === micahg_ is now known as micahg [15:30] yofel: How's ABIManager debug? [15:30] Anyone else had issues with the Nvidia drivers? [15:32] DarkwingDuck: What sort of issues? Everything works fine here [15:34] I had issues with nouveau auto blacklisting. even removing/purging it didn't help. It would build in the kernel then, the kernel wouldn't be able to find it... In Oneiric. [15:44] evening [15:45] Hiya. [15:45] ROFL! http://chris-lamb.co.uk/2011/08/12/careful-what-you-wish-for/ [15:49] Nice. [15:49] hehe, brilliant [15:52] OMG. http://www.notmart.org/index.php/Software/Activate_your_DS_toy [15:52] intel <3 [15:56] bbl [15:58] Yet another reason to love chrome. http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/12/friday-time-waster-play-dos-games-in-your-chrome-browser/ [15:58] DarkwingDuck: nice, but it lacks cpu load emulation ;) [16:30] and here is apt-gentoo for ubuntu: http://pastebin.com/k1QCDhbH :) [16:31] hi .. got a small question.. can we enable the kubuntu cuboid/3d desktop env in vmware ? [16:34] stanley_robertso: vmware doesn't support 3d acceleration on linux, right? [16:37] * Quintasan applies for sponsorship [16:39] debfx: actually i doubt the same.. but not sure.. if iam wrong.. so asked the question here [16:43] stanley_robertso: IF the VM has 3D acceleration then it SHOULD work [16:43] But we can't really guarantee that [16:45] Quintasan: ok [16:46] Quintasan: what is the feasible/best way to get into kubuntu dev [16:46] stanley_robertso: I'm pretty sure VMware only likes DirectX, rather than OpenGL [16:46] stanley_robertso: packaging, docs writing, coding :) [16:46] am a c/c++/unix/perl developer [16:46] ! [16:47] Quintasan: :) True.. what is the fastest way [16:47] !kubuntu [16:47] kubuntu is Ubuntu with the KDE Software Compilation instead of !Gnome. See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join #kubuntu - See also !kde [16:47] By any chance, do you know Qt? [16:47] Quintasan: nO.. i think i need to learn that [16:47] !Qt [16:47] the Qt toolkit (pronounced "cute"), which forms the base of !KDE, is a cross-platform C++ application framework for !CLI and !GUI applications. Install libqt4-dev and see !build to compile Qt4 applications, join #qt for development support [16:47] if you know C++, Qt is pretty easy (and enjoyable) to learn [16:47] stanley_robertso: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/ [16:47] Here are the docs [16:48] and the Qt docs are awesome, truly [16:48] I think we all appreciate people with ability to code :) [16:48] be right back === Dan`ka|cycling is now known as Dan`ka [17:05] iam back [17:05] Quintasan: iam downloading the Qt SDK [17:07] stanley_robertso: Cool, I think dslogger might know any tasks you could do [17:07] * Quintasan is not familiar with C++ to this level [17:10] Quintasan: thanks for helping me till now. [17:10] stanley_robertso: Don't thank me now :P [17:10] dslogger: can you suggest me or give me a hook, to get acquintance on Qt [17:11] dslogger is at Desktop Summit currently so it might take a while [17:12] * Quintasan loves the way Marianne responds to emails [17:18] stanley_robertso: there are some tutorials and examples on the Qt site: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/tutorials.html http://doc.qt.nokia.com/latest/all-examples.html as good a place to start as any [17:20] after yesterday update only one app can play sound. Is pulse audio really necessary for Kubuntu? [17:23] IIRC phonon is best and PA dosen't play well. In fact it's disruptive. [17:24] so why have them both? [17:29] They do different things. Phonon uses PA. [17:29] We've got some patches coming soon. [17:40] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: ping [17:43] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna is the muon dev right [17:57] He is. [18:08] <_Groo_> JontheEchidna: ping [18:08] _Groo_: He's probably at work. [18:08] <_Groo_> ScottK: k tks :) [18:09] <_Groo_> ScottK: i just wanted to ask him if its too much trouble to add the kproxy support to muon [18:09] <_Groo_> ScottK: it already works from the command line with exports... so its a matter of adding the GUI [18:10] <_Groo_> ScottK: sort to speak... i know how hard it to add this kinda features [18:10] <_Groo_> ScottK: btw tomorrow ill upload digikam2 [18:10] <_Groo_> ScottK: i have to do the TH release anyway [18:11] thanks tsimpson === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube === yofel_ is now known as yofel [22:26] home sweet home :) [22:27] yofel: dude [22:27] your wifi key thingy is with me [22:27] . . . [22:28] oh right, keep it till the next time we see each other [22:28] lol [22:28] it's more usefuly for you than me anyway [22:28] *useful [22:28] true that [22:28] :P [22:28] thanks to DS i get a free Wifi usb dongle [22:28] hehe [22:29] loads of tee's as well === emma is now known as em