[00:43] <razor__> hola
[00:43] <razor__> alguien me ayuda
[00:54] <Daskreech> !es
[00:56] <SIR_Taco> that's good to know
[01:31] <SIR_Taco> well crap, I don't know why I even read Slashdot anymore... about 1 in 10 are interesting/accurate
[01:56] <razor____> thanks dude
[01:59] <razor____> help me
[01:59] <razor____> in irc spanish , no way
[01:59] <razor____> im problem configure ati x1250 on linux
[02:00] <razor____> drivers ati "libre" no funk
[02:00] <razor____> i will instale openSUSE 11.4??
[02:01] <razor____> help me ,please
[04:26] <bart__> kiuh
[07:38] <nullkuhl> hello, i have downloaded kubuntu 11.04 at installation screen where the checkmarks for disk space, power source, etc. exist, i press next to go to disk setup, but i get a busy cursor forever.. any idea ? (i had the prev, kubuntu version installed on the same laptop some time ago as well )
[07:42] <nullkuhl> hello
[08:33] <SubSAssassin> hello everybody
[08:33] <SubSAssassin> what a nice monsun day here in lancashire ;)
[09:27] <BlaXpirit> Hello. After recent update Flash plugin does not work anymore. What's the problem?
[09:28] <Peace-> BlaXpirit: remove the new flash
[09:28] <Peace-> and install the older
[09:28] <BlaXpirit> well, where do I find the older?
[09:29] <Peace-> BlaXpirit: here /var/cache/apt/archives/
[09:29] <Peace-> there are all the pacakges you have downloaed
[09:29] <Peace-> downloaded
[09:29] <BlaXpirit> nice to know.
[09:29] <BlaXpirit> ah, there's the version that originally came with the distro.
[09:30] <Peace-> for the orinal package you can download from  here http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:31] <BlaXpirit> Peace-, there's only current version in that directory. I'll go for 10.2.159.1ubuntu1 (natty)
[09:31] <Peace-> BlaXpirit: i see, probably  the system has cleaned the cache
[09:32] <BlaXpirit> OK, it's fixed.
[09:32] <BlaXpirit> thanks for help
[09:32] <Peace-> BlaXpirit: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/allpackages
[11:37] <MrTKusa> Hello?
[11:37] <jussi> hello
[11:37] <MrTKusa> I need help
[11:37] <jussi> !ask
[11:38] <esmirlin> hey guys i'm having problems with kde 4.7 with netbook plasma ... i can't delete or choose app's as favourites ones to set them into the top bar :S any idea?
[11:40] <jussi> esmirlin: how have you been trying to do it?
[11:41] <MrTKusa> I put in the CD and the first screen of Kubuntu 11.4 shows up but if I choose to "start Kubuntu" then all I get is big blocks (graphic error) .  Any ideas?
[11:41] <esmirlin> like normal way, before i just placed the mouse over the app i wanted to keep and it appeared a little icon (a star) so i clicked and then i got it :S
[11:42] <jussi> MrTKusa: which graphics card do you have?
[11:43] <MrTKusa> nvidia  - EVGA 420 GT, I think
[11:44] <esmirlin> jussi: no idea, i have a asus eee 1005PE but with previous versions i could do it :S
[11:45] <jussi> esmirlin: have you tried right clicking the favourites and adding widgits in the bar? tried drag and drop to there?
[11:45] <jussi> MrTKusa: have you given it time to load?
[11:45] <esmirlin> yes but it doesn't work either :S
[11:47] <jussi> esmirlin: I dont run it myself, so Im sorry I cant help more. perhaps ask also in #kde ?
[11:50] <MrTKusa> yes, I can see and read the HELP info from the first screen,  but once I hit "Start Kubuntu" the screen changes to black, then the blocks looking screen and nothing further.  It also happened with my attempt ti install Kubuntu 10-4
[11:57] <MrTKusa> My video is GeForce GT 240    for certain
[12:02] <MrTKusa> that is a Nvidia card
[12:06] <MrTKusa> still there jussi?
[12:09] <MrTKusa> anyone there?
[12:10] <Peace-> MrTKusa: mmm
[12:10] <Peace-> bad driver
[12:11] <MrTKusa> from the live drive?
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:12] <Peace-> MrTKusa: in the live menu chhose another option
[12:12] <Peace-> i guess tehre is a safe mode
[12:12] <Peace-> i guess there is
[12:12] <Peace-> for problematic video cards
[12:13] <MrTKusa> How would I get there?
[12:16] <MrTKusa> No guru's online at this time?
[12:17] <BluesKaj> nope just helpers , what's your issue ? , MrTKusa
[12:18] <Peace-> MrTKusa:  http://mchainpoetics.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/image67.png this is a screen
[12:18] <Peace-> MrTKusa: you need to search on mode or "other option" failsafe mode
[12:18] <MrTKusa> I cannot even start Kubuntu 11.04 from the live disk, I hit Start Kubuntu and just get a block pattern on my screen
[12:20] <MrTKusa> My first creen is different from that one
[12:20] <MrTKusa> screen*
[12:21] <Peace-> MrTKusa: it should be pretty similar
[12:21] <BluesKaj> Peace-, MrTKusa , maybe the "alternate" install cd will work
[12:21] <BluesKaj> !alternate | MrTKusa
[12:21] <Peace-> well yes alternate stuff would works but it's a bit more complicated
[12:22] <MrTKusa> I will look again for a failsafe mode
[12:22] <MrTKusa> if not then I will try Alternate
[12:23] <Peace-> MrTKusa: yours it's this http://www.linoob.com/wp-content/flagallery/kubuntu-installation/01booting-kubuntu-live.png
[12:23] <Peace-> MrTKusa: that is the same of ubuntu , anyway you have to search for failsafe
[12:23] <Peace-> i don't remember well
[12:23] <Peace-> anyway alternate cd it's better if you have this kind of problem
[12:25] <MrTKusa>  ok, very well then I will try that........ty
[12:31] <zl> is it a instant messenger?
[12:31] <Pici> wat?
[12:31] <Pici> er, What?
[12:32] <zl> what is this program for?
[12:32] <bazhang> zl  IRC?
[12:33] <zl> english is not my native language .....
[12:34] <bazhang> zl this is Kubuntu support channel, NOT im
[12:34] <BluesKaj> ok , back ....had a nad lag
[12:34] <BluesKaj> bad
[12:37] <OttovonBismarck> does anyone know how to make kopete use num pad enter as a send message button rather than an append line button
[12:37] <OttovonBismarck> i've tried changing the shortcuts in settings to no effect
[12:38] <carl_> :)
[12:39] <carl_> :(
[12:40] <OttovonBismarck> in fact changing shortcuts seems to have literally no effect on send behavior no matter what keys, or combination of keys invoked
[12:40] <BluesKaj> OttovonBismarck, maybe the ppl at #kopete can help you
[12:41] <OttovonBismarck> in either the version in the repos or the latest via LP
[12:41] <OttovonBismarck> ah, true BluesKaj, ta
[12:42] <bazhang> zl with kubuntu yes; please ask in the channel and not via PM, there may also be a language specific channel for you if feel more comfortable trying there
[12:50] <zl> thanks.
[13:02] <ubuntu> hi
[13:02] <ubuntu> got a boot up problem
[13:09] <ubuntu> "/tmp not yet ready"
[13:13] <BluesKaj> ubottu, you have to tell us where in the boot process this happens
[13:13] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, , you have to tell us where in the boot process this happens
[13:13] <bazhang> or ubuntu ^
[13:14] <ubuntu> first notification i get is - "invalid environment block"
[13:15] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, no grub menu then ?
[13:16] <ubuntu> BluesKaj: no
[13:16] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, livecd or a finished install ?
[13:16] <ubuntu> BluesKaj: finished install on a USB disk
[13:18] <BluesKaj> bazhang, I'm not real up to date on USB install procedure , are you ?
[13:18] <bazhang> ubuntu yet you are on a live session now
[13:18] <bazhang> BluesKaj, somewhat
[13:19] <ubuntu> bazhang: yes i'm on a live session to get help
[13:19] <bazhang> ubuntu, using what tool? unetbootin ?
[13:20] <ubuntu> bazhang: no; used the 'install kubuntu' application from live CD
[13:21] <bazhang> ubuntu, to  a usb stick? and it failed?
[13:22] <ubuntu> bazhang: it was successful; have been using it for sometime
[13:22] <bazhang> ubuntu, so whats the problem, exactly? when did it stop working
[13:22] <ubuntu> bazhang: a download using Firefox was in progress when power failed; and on booting this time it gave this problem
[13:23] <bazhang> ubuntu, do you have the exact error message?
[13:24] <ubuntu> bazhang: yes; on startup - "invalid environment block Press any key to proceed"
[13:25] <bazhang> ubuntu, and what about booting into recovery mode
[13:25] <ubuntu> bazhang: then i get - "error reading device on /" and on pressing F for Automatic Fix it shows - "/tmp not yet ready"
[13:25] <ubuntu> bazhang: how do i do that?
[13:25] <kyubutsu> ubuntu: check this link and see if it fits your situation real quick:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1285098
[13:25] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, have you tried recopying the image file to the USB stick ?...the power failure may have corrupted the data.
[13:26] <bazhang> ubuntu, hold shift at boot ?
[13:26] <ubuntu> bazhang: ok will try the link and recovery mode; thank you
[13:27] <ubuntu> BluesKaj: recopying image file to USB stick is like re-installation right? i want to preserve my previous installation and filesystem
[13:28] <BluesKaj> bazhang, but that site is about legacy grub not grub2 ...the situation might be very different in grub2
[13:29] <kyubutsu> might? :-/
[13:29] <bazhang> BluesKaj, kyubutsu 's link?
[13:29] <kyubutsu> wouldve couldve
[13:29] <BluesKaj> bax yes, sorry , kyubutsu 's link
[13:29] <BluesKaj> bazhang,
[13:30] <bazhang> hehe
[13:30] <bazhang> !grub2 | ubuntu here's the grub2 info
[13:30] <bazhang> augh he quit
[13:31] <kyubutsu> same error message in two different grub versions? my bet is it will work
[13:32]  * kyubutsu slams poker ships on table
[13:32] <BluesKaj> kyubutsu, your site might work ..but the grub version isn't mentioned , so it's iffy
[13:33] <kyubutsu> pfft
[13:33] <BluesKaj> smae to you
[13:34] <kyubutsu> so, what about alpha3 iso being 701mb.. cant put that into a cdR  >:(
[13:34] <BluesKaj> kyubutsu, I did
[13:35] <bazhang> kyubutsu, #ubuntu+1 for alpha stuff
[13:35] <BluesKaj> cdrw aamof
[13:35] <kyubutsu> i only have 700mb discs
[13:35] <kyubutsu> indeed, bazhang
[13:35] <kyubutsu> -_-
[13:40] <ubuntu> bazhang: holding down shift doesnt work; i'm using Kubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal
[13:41] <kyubutsu> i like rekonq. but it freezes EVERytime.. i can almost predict when it's going to freeze; random pages too, video, plain text, no matter
[13:41] <kyubutsu> ugh
[13:43] <kyubutsu> at least this time was able to download the debug symbols, maybe i'll catch something with it
[13:44] <kyubutsu> o.0
[13:45] <ubuntu> error details: "/dev/sdd1: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY"
[13:45] <ubuntu> error details: "mountall:fsck/[349] terminated with status 4 mountall:Filesystem has error:/"
[13:50] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, you have to hold the shift down, right after the bios scrn
[13:50] <ubuntu> BluesKaj: tried doing that; nothing happens; goes to blue screen that says "invalid environment block"
[13:53] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, looks like you need to try  a 'new image' ...copy a new one to a disk /USB
[13:54] <ubuntu> i tried to delete files from 'tmp' through the live CD but it says 'read only file system'
[13:54] <ubuntu> BluesKaj: Does that mean my profile, filesystem, data will be wiped?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> where ?
[13:55] <ubuntu> on the USB
[13:56] <BluesKaj> how did you put ubuntu on the USB , originally ?
[13:57] <ubuntu> BluesKaj: i ran the live CD for 11.04; it has an application that says 'Install Kubuntu 11.04'; chose the USB disk while selecting target disk for installation
[14:00] <BluesKaj> ubuntu,  never heard of that, or do you want a portable OS
[14:00] <BluesKaj> most ppl install to their HDDs
[14:01] <BluesKaj> or SSDs
[14:01] <ubuntu> yes i wanted a portable OS that is why i installed it on an 8GB USB stick
[14:01] <bazhang> ubuntu, use unetbootin to do it
[14:02] <ubuntu> bazhang: ok but that means i'll have to format the disk first right?
[14:03] <bazhang> ubuntu, you only have the one?
[14:03] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, well, that's basicxally the same as a live cd ...it's not a complete install due to the difference in hardware between machines ...you can't just "expect it to work'
[14:03] <BluesKaj> is not the same as a live cd is what i meant
[14:04] <ubuntu> BluesKaj:i do not fully comprehend you; it is a full install right?? and it did work; i've been using it for quite a long time now; and there have been no inconsistencies like these before
[14:05] <ubuntu> bazhang: yes i have only one
[14:06] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, you're better off just copying the live cd and using it that way..you can't install ubuntu to a USB ..it needs the apropriate hardware drivers to work on a particular machine , that's what an "install" does
[14:06] <bazhang> ubuntu, you did the persistent install then?
[14:07] <ubuntu> bazhang: i do not know; it looks similar to a full install; how do i differentiate?
[14:08] <bazhang> ubuntu, one saves data between reboots, one does not, is essentially like using a live cd
[14:08] <ubuntu> BluesKaj: agreed; but i've used the stick on various machines without any problems;
[14:09] <ubuntu> bazhang: this install is not persistent then; it saves data immediately on the disk; i can use it normally
[14:10] <ubuntu> bazhang: i got what you said; i'm affirmative this install is not a persistent install
[14:11] <BluesKaj> yeah ubuntu , unetbootin is the best way to go ..I agree with bazhang
[14:11] <ubuntu> there have been instances of un-graceful shutdowns or power failures but system configuration and other data has been consistent
[14:12] <ubuntu> ok; so i should re-install 11.04 using unetbootin?
[14:12] <BluesKaj> ubuntu, yes
[14:13] <ubuntu> Ok :) thank you
[14:43] <zimba12> hi
[14:44] <zimba12> since I installed Kubuntu 11.04, the clock displayed in kde is always behind the actual time
[14:44] <zimba12> it kind of "loses time"
[14:55] <alvin> !ntp
[15:17] <BluesKaj> zimba12, panel clock or desktop clock ?
[15:20] <zimba12> BluesKaj: the panel clock
[15:20] <zimba12> it's already synchronized with ntp
[15:20] <zimba12> actually it crashes when I change ntp server
[15:22] <genii-around> !info zonbeminder > genii-around
[15:22] <genii-around> bah
[15:22] <genii-around> !info zoneminder > genii-around
[15:24] <Peace-> genii-around: hihih
[15:24] <BluesKaj> right click on it , choose digital clock settings, beside the date format on the right is a small wrench icon , click on that ..you can set everything there , then go back and choose set date and time by right clicking again
[15:24] <BluesKaj> zimba12, ^
[15:24]  * genii-around slides Peace- a tasty coffee
[15:25] <Peace-> good
[15:27] <zimba12> BluesKaj: there is no date format in the digital clock settings
[15:28] <BluesKaj> zimba12, right click , choose adjustr date and time
[15:28] <BluesKaj> on the clock
[15:28] <zimba12> that's different from digital clock settings
[15:29] <BluesKaj> of course if your time is out of sync
[15:29] <BluesKaj> re-adjust the time
[15:30] <zimba12> I meant: Digital clock settings is different from "Adjust.."
[15:30] <zimba12> anyway, I know how to adjust the time
[15:30] <zimba12> but this doesn
[15:30] <zimba12> t fix the issue
[15:31] <BluesKaj> how different , you may need to set the time zone etc to your area , sometimes the pc clock isn't in sync with the regional settings
[15:32] <zimba12> I think you misunderstood the problem
[15:32] <zimba12> however I adjust the time, after a while, it will be out of sync
[15:33] <zimba12> even if I use "date" from command line
[15:33] <BluesKaj> I see your in Waterloo ON , or close to it .so make sure your time zone etc is set in system settings locale
[15:33] <BluesKaj> you're
[15:34] <zimba12> BluesKaj: you keep not understanding
[15:35] <BluesKaj> I understand the panel clock isn't showing the correct time
[15:35] <Peace-> BluesKaj: :PPPP
[15:36] <BluesKaj> sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[15:37] <BluesKaj> Peace-, :PPPP ? ...what's that mean ?
[15:37] <Peace-> BluesKaj:  :-P => hi man :D
[15:38] <BluesKaj> hi Peace-
[15:38] <zimba12> BluesKaj: it's 11:37 here, but tz-data shows "Local time is now:      Fri Aug 12 11:31:54 EDT 2011"
[15:40] <BluesKaj> zimba12, did you try the  command , sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[15:40] <zimba12> that
[15:40] <zimba12> gives Local time is now:      Fri Aug 12 11:31:54 EDT 2011
[15:40] <zimba12> even though it's 11:40 here
[15:41] <BluesKaj> zimba12, run the command then reboot , see if the time resets itself properly on boot
[15:42] <zimba12> BluesKaj: it doesn't, I've already tried
[15:42] <BluesKaj> zimba12, the only bug Iknow of with the panel clock is it's inability to reset 12 hr AMPM eevn tho the sttings show the 12 hrs time in the dialog
[15:43] <zimba12> BluesKaj: I don't think it's a problem with the panel
[15:43] <zimba12> I guess it's with ubuntu in general
[15:43] <zimba12> even date shows incorrect time
[15:44] <BluesKaj> well, I have to go for a while , maybe some one else has an idea about this ...BBL
[15:44] <BluesKaj> my panel clock is fine except for the 12 hr thing
[15:50] <zimba12> BluesKaj: thanks for the help, anyway
[16:14] <javier__> Hi. I'm in kubuntu 11.04 and have a problem with grub2: keyboard of my laptop doesnt work and can't choose between my different SO (I need to boot in windows) Any idea how to repair grub2? maybe reinstall?
[16:21] <OerHeks> javier__, do you use an USB keyboard ?
[16:22] <OerHeks> javier__, i misread, you use laptop :(
[16:43] <akseya> hello folks :)
[16:44] <akseya> i'm installing kubuntu 11.04 on my notebook, it is downloading a package at 88%
[16:45] <akseya> it says it will download in 234:11 .. i don't want to wait :(
[16:45] <akseya> I tried to click on the X button on the side of the progressbar, but it had no effect
[16:46] <akseya> also, i have installed the same version on my desktopn yesterday, and it have already downloaded all packages, with scp i copied the files to /var/cache/apt/archives
[16:46] <akseya> how can I cancel this download and install the package manually?
[16:50] <akseya> ok.. never mind, it finished
[17:08] <javier__> my laptop's keyboard stopped working in grub 2 (kubuntu 11.04). Someone guess how to fix it?
[17:12] <Daskreech> javier__: When does your keyboard kick in?
[17:12] <Daskreech> akseya: \o/
[17:14] <hyper_ch> hmmmm, howdy.... how can I find out if an init.d script is being started at bootup with startup?
[17:14] <akseya> i'm updating the system using that packages I already downloaded ;).. what I think is strange is that kubuntu didn't recognize my Bluetooth USB token...
[17:14] <akseya> lets see after upgrade and reboot
[17:15] <akseya> hyper_ch: you could try installing rcconf
[17:15] <javier__> Daskreech: is the keyboard of my laptop, is inside
[17:15] <akseya> then you can select which scripts you want to enable/disable at boot
[17:16] <akseya> javier__: the problem is just with grub? after you boot, does it work?
[17:16] <javier__> akseya: right, later it works perfect
[17:17] <javier__> by the way: once I'm in kubuntu, can I go from here to my windows 7 somehow without using grub? (not restarting I mean)
[17:17] <hyper_ch> akseya: it seems the latest upgrade did disabled statd from starting at bootup
[17:17] <akseya> javier__: take a look at your bios setup, if USB keyboard is enabled
[17:17] <hyper_ch> not sure if that's a kubuntu ppa issue or an ubuntu one
[17:17] <Daskreech> hyper_ch: logs?
[17:18] <javier__> akseya: but is nothing related with USB keyboard, is the keyboard of my laptop
[17:18] <Daskreech> javier__: Same suggestion as akseya. My USB keyboard wouldn't kick in till post Grub (and Bios) Was quite a nnoying
[17:18] <akseya> i know, but sometimes it is recognized as an USB device
[17:19] <javier__> akseya, Daskreech: so, you think that even is not an USB keyboard, enabling it in BIOS may fix it in grub?
[17:19] <akseya> javier__: also, take a lok ad USB Legacy Support
[17:19] <hyper_ch> Daskreech: http://pastebin.com/wYkBciWv
[17:19] <akseya> javier__: yeap, i really believe that :)
[17:19] <hyper_ch> Daskreech: it somewhat looks similar to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/581941
[17:20] <javier__> ok, I will try :)
[17:20] <Daskreech> javier__: something like that. :)
[17:22] <hyper_ch> Daskreech: should I add my problems to that bug report? or rather the one that said it has a fix released?
[17:24] <Daskreech> hyper_ch: starting it manually works?
[17:24] <hyper_ch> Daskreech: it did
[17:24] <Daskreech> upstart bug then?
[17:24] <javier__> akseya, Daskreech: there is nothing about USB keyboard in BIOS...
[17:25] <hyper_ch> Daskreech: don't know.... it seems to have tried to start it
[17:25] <Daskreech> hyper_ch: file a bug and ask in #ubuntu-devel
[17:25] <akseya> javier__: how about USB Legacy support?
[17:25] <javier__> akseya: what is that?
[17:26] <javier__> akseya: i'm in grub2, not legacy
[17:28] <akseya> legacy support is something like " old suport"
[17:28] <javier__> ammm
[17:28] <Daskreech> javier__: This isn't grub this is your BIOS
[17:29] <javier__> Daskreech: ok, i mistook because I was before with grub-legacy ;P
[17:29] <Daskreech> it can search for USB Input devices on start up  (And floopy drives etc) that delays how long it takes to be "ready"
[17:30] <Peace-> !repository | mauri
[17:30] <javier__> Daskreech: and what could I do with that? could I make shorter that time?
[17:32] <javier__> well, thanks anyway. I don't have more time. Will try again tomorrow
[17:32] <javier__> thaks!
[17:40] <teo_> hello, I recently switched off power management service in my KUBUNTU laptop due to a memory leak bug. Does anyone know how can I control screen brightness without power management services? I googled the issue but I could not find any working solutions.
[17:42] <Lord^Anubis> laptop-mode-tools ?
[17:42] <Lord^Anubis> there should be a module that can control it for you; what kind of laptop?
[17:44] <akseya> damn... i forgot about the screen brightness too.. i had to add something on my grub.cfg
[17:44] <teo_> laptop is HP probook 4710s with Kubuntu. The bug was a memory leak due to battery
[17:44] <akseya> I formated my notebook and forgot to backup the conf :(
[17:48] <teo_> I never used laptop-mode-tools before... do you have a good url for tutorial?
[17:48] <Lord^Anubis> hmm, i'm not too familar with kubuntu, but its always worked for me :/
[17:49] <Lord^Anubis> ^ laptop-mode-tools
[17:51] <Lord^Anubis> hmm, so i guess you need an alternate power management service
[17:56] <Lord^Anubis> hmm, /proc/acpi/video/something/something/LCD/brightness should have your brightness level, but there should be a way to use some other utility like laptop-mode-tools or xbacklight http://linux.die.net/man/1/xbacklight
[18:01] <Lord^Anubis> teo_: first i'd probably just apt-get install laptop-mode-tools, and turn off that spin down setting for the hard drive
[18:01] <Lord^Anubis> see how it works?
[18:04] <teo_> thanks a lot... I will test it.
[18:05] <Lord^Anubis> and as with new modules, you may need to reboot.... or modprobe laptop-mode-tools
[18:31] <madd0x> Hello,when im trying to run any exe with wine...nothing happend is open and after 1minute closing automaticly wht can i do or what happening?
[18:41] <Pici> madd0x: #winehq is your best bet for wine questions.
[18:46] <BlaXpirit> How come KSnapshot doesn't capture mouse cursor even though the checkbox indicates it should?
[18:55] <BlaXpirit> bump
[18:58] <soee> how can i uninstall plasmoid via console ?
[18:59] <BlaXpirit> plasmapkg -r xxxxxx
[18:59] <BlaXpirit> soee: [forgot to mention u]
[19:00] <BlaXpirit> soee: does it work?
[19:01] <soee> BlaXpirit, no can find, maybe because iv compiled it from source :/
[19:04] <BlaXpirit> well, i got this from my "plasmoid reinstall sh script": plasmapkg -r name; plasmapkg -i name.zip
[19:05] <BlaXpirit> There's probably no such thing as "install plasmoid from source" ... I just archive the thing and install it with "plasmapkg -i"
[19:32] <BlaXpirit> Oh well, I hate to say this, but Shutter is better :(
[20:20] <linux-beginner-h> are there digikam 2.0 users?
[20:23] <dant3> hey guys
[20:23] <linux-beginner-h> I have the problem described in https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262212
[20:25] <dant3> I'm using kubuntu for a long time already... but first time I can`t install it... I`m finishing with "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system". I tryed everything that I was found on forums about this, I even tryed cd`s with other distros but they all are having the same problem
[20:26] <Daskreech> dant3: fsck the system?
[20:26] <Daskreech> linux-beginner-h: WHich version of Digikam?
[20:26] <Daskreech>  oh 2.0 :)
[20:26] <Daskreech>  MIght check in the #digikam chan?
[20:26] <dant3> Daskreech: you mean hdd? There is nothing to fsck yet
[20:26] <linux-beginner-h> Daskreech: no response from digikam :-)
[20:27] <Daskreech> dant3: It's not partitioned?
[20:27] <dant3> Daskreech: yep
[20:27] <dant3> Daskreech: brand new
[20:27] <Daskreech> linux-beginner-h: Patience I suppose
[20:27] <linux-beginner-h> Daskreech:  I have a large image collection and tagging by hand is impossible :-)
[20:27] <Daskreech> dant3: Assigned a /dev/ file?
[20:27] <Daskreech> linux-beginner-h: By which you mean tedious :)
[20:28] <linux-beginner-h> Daskreech:  yes :-)
[20:28] <dant3> Daskreech: i tryed to search for a /dev/ files for devices but there is nothing reasonable non for hdd, nor for cdrom. So I havent even live system booted, only initramfs with ash
[20:29] <dant3> Daskreech: maybe it`s not the point but it looks like windows installing well, I'm just started to install it and created a little partition for it
[20:29] <Daskreech> dant3: ls /dev/sd* gives you what?
[20:30] <dant3> Daskreech: there is no /dev/sd*
[20:32] <crushpest> does anybody know what the name of the side on the right side is: http://tinyurl.com/3faydq9
[20:34] <gomiboy> dant3: maybe your chipset isn't yet supported by the kernel... do you know which chipset is it? Or at least your motherboard model?
[20:35] <BluesKaj> crushpest, desktop widgets ?
[20:36] <gomiboy> crushpest: i think it's conky, but it's for gnome
[20:37] <dant3> gomiboy: Intel(R) H61 Express Chipset Family with Intel pci bridge
[20:37] <Daskreech> dant3: does it turn up in the BIOS?
[20:37] <Daskreech> crushpest: conky?
[20:38] <dant3> gomiboy: I have a gigabyte PA65-UD3-B3 motherboard
[20:38] <crushpest> k i will look
[20:39] <dant3> Daskreech: I searched the bios, tryed to switch sata mode from ahci to ide but result is the same. can`t find something else related there
[20:40] <Daskreech> dant3: does it list the drive as a device in the BIOS?
[20:40] <dant3> Daskreech: yes, of course, I even able to install windows on this PC
[20:41] <dant3> Daskreech: witch means cdrom is working, hdd too, it have one little partition since now on (install is about to end)
[20:46] <Daskreech> dant3: hmm which version of Kubuntu ?
[20:46] <dant3> Daskreech: I tryed both 10.04 and 11.04 both i386 and amd64, tryed opensuse 11.4 and mageia 1
[20:48] <dant3> Daskreech: also parted magic witch is a livecd linux system doesn`t boot with same symptoms
[20:50] <Daskreech> dant3: initramfs ?
[20:51] <Daskreech> dant3: can you disconnect the drive and see if they boot
[20:51] <dant3> Daskreech: yep
[20:51] <dant3> Daskreech: I tryed that too
[20:51] <Daskreech> and?
[20:52] <dant3> Daskreech: I'm having a kernel panic after I'm trying to resume booting cause of unable to mount root system
[20:54] <dant3> Daskreech: I get the same if I will not disconnect the drive and just try to exit from shell to continue booting
[21:00] <gomiboy> dant3: try to boot with a 11.10 cd: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/
[21:00] <dant3> just tryed Sabayon linux 5.4, it`s still the same, but sabayon pleased me to enter device name or shell for shell :)
[21:01] <dant3> gomiboy: ok
[21:06] <Daskreech> dant3: hmm
[21:06] <Daskreech> dant3: I'm going to go with your CD drive is not plugged in properly?
[21:09] <dant3> it looks like not only new PC is against linux, cause my connection witch is 2mbps is lacking at around 100kbps now
[21:10] <dant3> so I will have a long time for downloadiing
[21:10] <dant3> Daskreech: then how is that CD drive readed and installed windows system?
[21:12] <linux-beginner-h> Daskreech: do you know... if there is a replacement for digikam where face recognition is working?
[21:13] <Daskreech> linux-beginner-h: well I know it uses a libface. Was that installed?
[21:13] <Daskreech> dant3: What's new on the PC?
[21:13] <linux-beginner-h> Daskreech: yes... libface and opencv are both installed
[21:14] <dant3> Daskreech: everything, from case to hdd
[21:14] <linux-beginner-h> Daskreech: face detection works fine... but face recognation does nothing
[21:15] <dant3> Daskreech: cpu, motherboard, graphical card, hdd, cdrom
[21:15] <linux-beginner-h> Daskreech: on the command line I receive the error "QImage::scaled: Image is a null image" which is also described in the bug
[21:22] <Daskreech> dant3: have You tried a daily?
[21:22] <dant3> Daskreech: gomiboy just told me to try, I'm downloading it atm
[21:22] <Daskreech> dant3: you are in Windows now I presume
[21:23] <dant3> Daskreech: yes, from the PC we are talking about, enjoying kde on windows :P
[21:26] <BluesKaj> dant3, must be vastly improved for windows ...tried it a few yrs ago , it was brutal
[21:29] <dant3> BluesKaj: konversation, kopete, kget and amarok works well
[21:30] <dant3> BluesKaj: at least in a packaged compiled with VS2008
[21:31] <BluesKaj> ok,  dant3
[21:31] <dant3> BluesKaj: the only sad thing is that there are no plasma package, it compiles only with mingw iirc, but with mingw there are some problems with amarok
[21:31] <BluesKaj> bbl
[21:32] <Daskreech> dant3: :-D
[21:32] <Daskreech> I've been trying to get KDE-edu on windows on the local schools
[21:32] <dant3> if I should have a choise between plasma and amarok on windows, I'm choosing amarok :)
[21:33] <dant3> Daskreech: our schools are using linux mostly from recent time
[21:35] <Daskreech> dant3: How did that come about?
[21:37] <dant3> Daskreech: it`s a government program of using opensource software at schools and state agencies
[21:37] <Daskreech> Which policy is that?
[21:38] <dant3> Daskreech: there are Alt Linux for school
[21:38] <Daskreech> sounds good. Would love to get in touch with that Dept :)
[21:39] <dant3> Daskreech: don`t be so dreamer, I tryed Alt Linux, it`s awfull
[21:40] <Daskreech> Oh I don't care that much about Alt Linux Ijust wanted to have a contact for someone in favour of a open policy for schools
[21:40] <dant3> Daskreech: it`s used cause it`s the only distro witch is a local for our country
[21:40] <Daskreech>  I can work whatever Linux is needed into the policy
[21:40] <Daskreech> dant3: Well seems there is a simple solution to that problem :)
[21:42] <dant3> Daskreech: :)
[21:49] <Daskreech> dant3: Using the built indrivers for the Mobo?
[21:50] <_dreamy> hi, im having touble finding the update manager .. starting from the start menu
[21:52] <_dreamy> but my main issue is that id like to reset all the settings ive done ever since i installed "driconf" .. my pc started running alot slower after i installed and changed settings
[21:53] <Daskreech> _dreamy: uninstall driconf ?
[21:54] <_dreamy> Daskreech:  yes , and have all the setting ive changed , reset
[21:54] <Daskreech> sudo apt-get remove driconf --purge
[21:54] <_dreamy> k ty
[22:02] <_dreamy_> : The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[22:02] <_dreamy_> anyone knows this error?
[22:08] <mahdi> hello
[22:08] <mahdi> I have Problem with gyachi massenger : this is output in terminal http://pastebin.com/acUCLDiF
[22:10] <gomiboy> mahdi: so you get "ugly output"? :)
[22:11] <mahdi> gomiboy ugly ?!
[22:12] <mahdi> in gyachi receive : could note connect to server . and in terminal this :http://pastebin.com/acUCLDiF
[22:14] <xadrin> \list
[22:15] <gomiboy> mahdi: that's what you pasted says: expect ugly output... anyway, that all seems warnings, check you have ttf-dejavu installed, that's all i can say...
[22:17] <mahdi> gomiboy no ... this package not installed .. wite to install this
[22:17] <mahdi> wait to install this ...
[22:18] <Daskreech> _dreamy: try apt-get update
[22:25] <shane2peru> how can I rsync from wine directory to wine directory?  across lan??  rsync -avuz -e ssh user@domain:/home/user/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/app/ .wine/drive_c/Program Files/app/
[22:26] <shane2peru> I tried rsync options "user@domain:/home/user/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/app/" ".wine/drive_c/Program Files/app/"  and that didn't work either.
[22:26] <shane2peru> I threw in a backslash as recommended by another page, and nothing
[22:26] <shane2peru> I know I have done this before, but can't seem to do it in a pinch
[22:30] <gomiboy> shane2peru: you mean user@PCNAME(or IP), not user@domain, right?
[22:30] <shane2peru> gomiboy: right
[22:31] <shane2peru> life would be easier if Windows wasn't around. :)  I wouldn't have to worry about this Space in the directory name stuff.
[22:32] <gomiboy> shane2peru: then the command seems fine... what error do you get? Hehe the space isn't a big problem :)
[22:33] <shane2peru> rsync: link_stat "/home/shane/.wineTW/drive_c/Program" failed: No such file or directory (2)
[22:33] <shane2peru> rsync: link_stat "/home/shane/.wineTW/drive_c/Program" failed: No such file or directory (2)
[22:34] <shane2peru> same error, different command, I keep moving the quotes, and changed them to back quote, and added a slash in there nothing seems to work correctlly
[22:35] <shane2peru> rsync -avuz -e ssh shane@laptop:"/home/shane/.wineTW/drive_c/Program\ Files/The\ Word/Books/" "/home/shane/.wineTW/drive_c/Program Files/The Word/Books/"
[22:35] <shane2peru> ok, that finally worked
[22:35] <gomiboy> shane2peru: mmm maybe that happened to me also... use quotes and back slash together, like: "Program\ Files"... there :)
[22:36] <shane2peru> notice I only used them for the remote host??  odd.
[22:36] <shane2peru> something funny about remote and local host commands there.
[22:42] <Daskreech> shane2peru: you can use "" to capture the space
[22:43] <Daskreech> ah you got it :)
[22:44] <shane2peru> Daskreech: right, got it, had to play around with it, how would I use that? ""  rsync -options user@pc:/home/user/directory" "name/  /home/user/directory" "name/  ??
[22:46] <Daskreech> no more like "directory name"
[22:46] <Daskreech> or if you prefer 'directory name'
[22:47] <Daskreech> doing directory" "name would just give /home/user/directory across. the name would get dropped
[23:13] <ssfdre38> would Rsync copy file permissions when its used?
[23:15] <nfrs> where do I start figuring out why I have no sound with pulseaudio?
[23:15] <nfrs> using natty
[23:16] <dant3> Daskreech: ok, I'm writed DVD and will reboot to try it
[23:16] <nfrs> everything worked fine until I installed the pulse-related packages (as dependency for another package). now neither pulse, nor alsa works. furthermore, the only "audio device" I see is digital, whereas I use analog output
[23:17] <Daskreech> ssfdre38: If you tell it to
[23:18] <nfrs> tried #pulseaudio, they said I need to seek help here
[23:18] <Fang> hey can anybody tell me how i can join quakenet?
[23:34]  * Daskreech hugs valorie
[23:45] <dant3_> ok, it works now
[23:45] <dant3_> first time I got same error
[23:46] <dant3_> but then I went to bios and changes sata mode from ide to ahci
[23:46] <dant3_> and livecd booted well
[23:46] <dant3_> althrough slow
[23:50] <dant3_> thanks for helping