| pgraner | Can't login after updates today, getting the Nautilus bar only across the top of the screen... | 00:04 |
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| jbicha | pgraner: are you sure you have all of Unity? you could try update & dist-upgrading again | 00:08 |
| jbicha | or try logging into a different desktop environment; I'm using Gnome Shell at the moment | 00:09 |
| pgraner | jbicha, just did it 2 min ago, this has been an ongoing prob since yesterday | 00:09 |
| pgraner | was looking for some help from the desktop guys to debug | 00:09 |
| jbicha | have you tried seeing if gdm does any better than lightdm? | 00:10 |
| jbicha | and are you using a proprietary graphics driver? | 00:10 |
| pgraner | jbicha, no all intel | 00:11 |
| pgraner | jbicha, gdm is not installed anymore | 00:11 |
| jbicha | pgraner: ah, I have intel too, you can install gdm if you like & switch between them with | 00:12 |
| jbicha | dpkg-reconfigure lightdm | 00:12 |
| pgraner | jbicha, not quite what I'm after, this is part of the canonical QA testing and was looking for help as I can rero the bug on demand | 00:13 |
| jbicha | right, gdm wouldn't necessarily fix it either | 00:13 |
| micahg | intel w/unity greeter to log into Xubuntu works for me | 00:14 |
| pgraner | micahg, this is going into unity, I see the launcher draw then flash then the nautilus menu bar draws and nothing else, all the nautilus menus are operative but you can't really do anything | 00:15 |
| * micahg can try to log into unity in a minute | 00:15 | |
| micahg | pgraner: sorry, have a problem upgrading ATM to the latest packages, will need to troubleshoot later | 00:24 |
| pgraner | micahg, thx | 00:24 |
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| jbicha | mdeslaur: are you sure that pkexec doesn't work in a .desktop? it seems to work for me without needing a separate helper | 02:30 |
| mdeslaur | jbicha: I couldn't get any suid binary to work from a .desktop file...I even tried setting gedit suid for a test, and it wouldn't start either | 03:10 |
| mdeslaur | jbicha: you're trying on oneiric? | 03:10 |
| jbicha | mdeslaur: yes, for Synaptic, I removed /usr/bin/pkexec-synaptic, edited the .desktop to just call pkexec synaptic | 03:18 |
| jbicha | and ran sudo update-desktop-database | 03:19 |
| mdeslaur | jbicha: hmm...let me try again, one sec | 03:20 |
| mdeslaur | jbicha: hmm...not working for me...I'm clicking the desktop file in unity, and I'm clicking it in a nautilus window opened to /usr/share/applications and no dice | 03:21 |
| mdeslaur | jbicha: how are you launching the desktop file? | 03:23 |
| jbicha | mdeslaur: from Gnome Shell's app menu thing | 03:27 |
| jbicha | let me try it in Unity though | 03:27 |
| jbicha | ok, didn't work in Unity, I'm going to reboot | 03:29 |
| jbicha | mdeslaur: ok, it doesn't work after reboot so there must have been some sort of caching going on, never mind | 03:34 |
| mdeslaur | jbicha: it's possible that gnome shell doesn't apply the same restrictions as nautilus used to do | 03:34 |
| mdeslaur | jbicha: oh, you mean even in gnome shell after a reboot? | 03:35 |
| jbicha | oh, wait, let me try one more time; I was using gdm this time which doesn't set the correct $PATH | 03:35 |
| jbicha | I should just fix that $PATH bug, but anyway... | 03:35 |
| jbicha | ok, it does work in gnome shell even after a reboot, but it doesn't work in Unity | 03:39 |
| mdeslaur | jbicha: how about opening a nautilus window to /usr/share/applications and clicking on it? | 03:40 |
| jbicha | I did notice that pkexec works differently in Unity, in Unity it is themed, not modal, and gives multiple tries | 03:40 |
| mdeslaur | oh! I think gnome-shell implements it's own policykit authentication dialog! | 03:41 |
| mdeslaur | that's what's different | 03:41 |
| jbicha | and it doesn't work in Nautilus either | 03:41 |
| jbicha | I wish pkexec gedit would work so that it could replace gksudo entirely | 03:43 |
| mdeslaur | well, you can do something like "pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY gedit" | 03:47 |
| mdeslaur | write a little wrapper to do that | 03:47 |
| kenvandine | hey DBO... | 03:53 |
| DBO | oh no | 03:53 |
| kenvandine | DBO, do you by chance know if setting the renderer for a category is just ignored? | 03:54 |
| kenvandine | in a lens? | 03:54 |
| DBO | no idea | 03:54 |
| kenvandine | the gwibber lens used to use the horizonal tile, and trying to set that now it just ignores it... | 03:54 |
| kenvandine | ok... i'll beat njpatel down in the morning :) | 03:54 |
| DBO | ask neil | 03:54 |
| kenvandine | i've got the gwibber lens mostly working against the new libunity :) | 03:55 |
| DBO | ive damn near lost my sanity | 03:56 |
| kenvandine | me too! | 03:56 |
| kenvandine | completely new API landing on FF day! | 03:56 |
| DBO | uhm | 03:56 |
| DBO | what do you guys expect? | 03:56 |
| DBO | seriously | 03:56 |
| DBO | you tell us there is a hard freeze | 03:56 |
| kenvandine | i know ;) | 03:56 |
| DBO | so we land shit in whatever state we must | 03:56 |
| kenvandine | but now all the lens authors have to rush to port :) | 03:57 |
| DBO | yep | 03:57 |
| DBO | well | 03:57 |
| DBO | nothing could be done | 03:57 |
| DBO | the work was more than could be done sanely | 03:57 |
| kenvandine | yeah, it's a huge change | 03:57 |
| DBO | have you tried out the alt-tab? | 03:57 |
| kenvandine | i think i grok the new stuff though | 03:57 |
| kenvandine | yeah! | 03:57 |
| kenvandine | i love it! | 03:57 |
| DBO | :) | 03:58 |
| DBO | Im glad | 03:58 |
| kenvandine | love love love love it! | 03:58 |
| DBO | any complaints? | 03:58 |
| DBO | Im still polishing | 03:58 |
| DBO | (i have a branch with blur btw) | 03:58 |
| kenvandine | what does it blur? everything else? | 03:59 |
| DBO | behind itself | 03:59 |
| ajmitch | kenvandine: so you're the person to talk to about what's changed in lenses? :) | 04:00 |
| kenvandine | hehe... not really | 04:01 |
| kenvandine | i can pretend to know | 04:01 |
| kenvandine | :) | 04:01 |
| kenvandine | scopes... lenses can chain themselves now | 04:01 |
| kenvandine | which is damn cool | 04:01 |
| * ajmitch hasn't even looked at what's changed yet | 04:01 | |
| kenvandine | i just ported the gwibber lens | 04:01 |
| kenvandine | mostly | 04:02 |
| * ajmitch has a lens that didn't really get 'finished' for natty | 04:04 | |
| kenvandine | porting is pretty massive | 04:04 |
| kenvandine | almost a rewrite... :/ | 04:04 |
| ajmitch | unity-2d & 3d share the same lens code? | 04:05 |
| kenvandine | yes | 04:05 |
| * ajmitch only has oneiric in virtualbox at the moment :) | 04:05 | |
| kenvandine | took me longer to port it than it did when i rewrote it in vala | 04:05 |
| ajmitch | heh | 04:06 |
| ajmitch | how much of that was due to the documentation not being there yet? | 04:06 |
| kenvandine | a fair bit | 04:06 |
| kenvandine | but i also changed 80% of the code | 04:06 |
| kenvandine | simplified though... | 04:07 |
| kenvandine | removed more than i added :) | 04:07 |
| kenvandine | which is nice | 04:07 |
| ajmitch | that's good | 04:07 |
| kenvandine | you can have scopes that feed info into other lenses | 04:07 |
| kenvandine | and a lens that aggregates scopes | 04:08 |
| kenvandine | etc | 04:08 |
| ajmitch | so existing lenses need to be ported, and won't load on oneiric right now? | 04:08 |
| kenvandine | right | 04:08 |
| kenvandine | won't even build | 04:08 |
| * ajmitch started writing a lens to search LP, in python | 04:08 | |
| kenvandine | still needs porting ;) | 04:08 |
| ajmitch | yep | 04:08 |
| kenvandine | that would be a cool lens | 04:08 |
| kenvandine | a nice thing now is you don't end up with a bunch of launchers for them | 04:09 |
| ajmitch | it was limited, could just look up people, projects & bugs by # | 04:09 |
| kenvandine | they are all in the dash | 04:09 |
| ajmitch | searching bugs across all projects wasn't supported by the LP API, I need to check that again | 04:09 |
| ajmitch | well, any tips on porting are welcome :) | 04:10 |
| ajmitch | but I think I'll just need to dive in & do it | 04:10 |
| jbicha | yes, I think there were too many launcher items by default in Natty so this helps | 04:10 |
| kenvandine | ajmitch, i looked at unity-lens-files as reference | 04:11 |
| kenvandine | and | 04:11 |
| kenvandine | https://code.launchpad.net/~njpatel/unity-lens-files/unity-lens-files/+merge/70475 | 04:11 |
| kenvandine | which is full of noise | 04:11 |
| ajmitch | full of s/Place/Lens/ | 04:11 |
| ajmitch | so all of the model-related code has changed? | 04:14 |
| kenvandine | yup | 04:14 |
| kenvandine | most of it is just gone now | 04:15 |
| kenvandine | you really just deal with the results_model | 04:15 |
| ajmitch | I see what you mean about complete rewrite then | 04:15 |
| didrocks | good morning | 05:40 |
| RAOF_ | Hey didrocks! | 05:41 |
| didrocks | hey RAOF_! how are you? | 05:42 |
| RAOF_ | Pretty good. It's almost the weekend! | 05:42 |
| RAOF_ | Although my system's seen better days. Feature Freeze has taken its toll. | 05:42 |
| RAOF_ | Incidentally, could you stop oneconf-query from popping apport up every 5 minutes? :) | 05:42 |
| didrocks | RAOF_: urgh, really? do you have a backtrace? | 05:43 |
| didrocks | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/oneconf/+bug/824844 ? | 05:44 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 824844 in oneconf "oneconf-query crashed with DBusException in call_blocking(): org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name :1.553 was not provided by any .service files" [Undecided,New] | 05:44 |
| RAOF_ | http://paste2.org/p/1579931 | 05:44 |
| RAOF_ | didrocks, Yeah that one. | 05:44 |
| didrocks | hum, why? :/ | 05:44 |
| RAOF_ | The same one that prevents software-centre from doing anything. | 05:44 |
| didrocks | there is a service file… | 05:44 |
| RAOF_ | I'm prepared to bet that there's not a service file providing the name :1.553 :) | 05:45 |
| didrocks | RAOF_: so, if you run oneconf-query --update in a terminal, it crashes? | 05:45 |
| didrocks | RAOF_: well, I'm using the well-known name | 05:46 |
| RAOF_ | Yup. | 05:46 |
| * didrocks needs to update | 05:46 | |
| RAOF_ | Software-centre and oneconf-service also crash, let me check oneconf-service's backtrace. | 05:46 |
| didrocks | maybe ubuntu sso or whatever | 05:46 |
| didrocks | RAOF_: can you try to start the daemon? | 05:46 |
| didrocks | /usr/share/oneconf/oneconf-service --debug | 05:47 |
| RAOF_ | http://paste2.org/p/1579939 | 05:47 |
| didrocks | ahah! | 05:47 |
| didrocks | RAOF_: your ~/.cache/oneconf/<id> is empty, isn't it? | 05:48 |
| RAOF_ | GARGHHIDNOUHOE. | 05:48 |
| didrocks | do you have a weird wallpaper? :p | 05:48 |
| RAOF_ | The new alt-tab is pessimised for alt tabbing between IRC and terminals. | 05:48 |
| RAOF_ | ~/.cache/oneconf/f65e1b8095aec451664adc810222b3e7 is an empty directory. | 05:49 |
| didrocks | ok, it seems it doesn't like your wallpaper :) | 05:50 |
| didrocks | what are you using? :) | 05:50 |
| RAOF_ | The.. thingy. | 05:50 |
| RAOF_ | Um, one of the standard ones. | 05:50 |
| didrocks | aweseome, I bet it's a lying png which is jpeg or the contrary | 05:50 |
| * didrocks adds debug, one sec | 05:50 | |
| RAOF_ | Oh, it's the contest one. | 05:50 |
| RAOF_ | Which is a *set* of images, which changes over time. | 05:51 |
| RAOF_ | So the setting probably doesn't point to an image at all, it probably points to some XML. | 05:51 |
| didrocks | RAOF_: ok, make sense | 05:52 |
| didrocks | RAOF_: uno memento, I'll ignore it in that case! | 05:52 |
| RAOF_ | I see that the design team never feel the need to alt-tab between IRC and a specific terminal, while having multiple terminals open. | 05:54 |
| didrocks | RAOF_: I raised the point some weeks ago | 05:55 |
| RAOF_ | That behaviour must change. | 05:57 |
| RAOF_ | Gah. It also doesn't always get stacking/focus right. Sometimes it the window it raises doesn't have focus. | 05:58 |
| didrocks | RAOF_: that was already the case, isn't it? | 05:58 |
| didrocks | RAOF_: IIRC, it's a compiz issue | 05:58 |
| RAOF_ | I don't recall running into it with the classic alt-tab. | 05:59 |
| didrocks | sorry, dist-upgrade here, computer slow as here for writing on disk ;) | 05:59 |
| RAOF_ | Possibly because the new alt-tab is trying to raise two terminals, and give focus to one of them. | 05:59 |
| didrocks | I want to change my wallpaper before sending you the patch | 05:59 |
| RAOF_ | Actually, strike that. | 05:59 |
| RAOF_ | Compiz *deterministically* gives focus to the terminal *behind* the forground terminal. | 05:59 |
| RAOF_ | That's suboptimal :) | 06:00 |
| lifeless | WIN | 06:00 |
| didrocks | RAOF_: time to ping smspillaz? ;) | 06:00 |
| lifeless | sorry, did I say that out loud ? | 06:00 |
| RAOF_ | smspillaz, WE SUMMON YOU! | 06:00 |
| RAOF_ | That behaviour is no less annoying once you've identified it :/ | 06:03 |
| * RAOF_ restarts to move this system into the office. | 06:03 | |
| didrocks | RAOF: http://paste.ubuntu.com/663984/ if you want to try to cure your host :) | 06:05 |
| didrocks | RAOF: apply it to /usr/share/oneconf/oneconf/hosts.py of course ;) | 06:05 |
| smspillaz | you know, if you ping me, bad things happen | 06:08 |
| didrocks | RAOF: FYI, OneConf fix uplaoded, thanks :-) | 06:16 |
| jbicha | didrocks: hey if you're not too busy piloting, would you look at https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/ubuntu/oneiric/ghex/ghex-2.90/+merge/71153 | 06:20 |
| RAOF_ | Man, I'm totally awesome. Can I get compiz into a state where it won't draw anything but the lowermost window? Of course I can! | 06:36 |
| smspillaz | RAOF_: steps to reproduce ? | 06:37 |
| didrocks | RAOF_: in case you didn't get the message I sent there to your evil twin, fix for oneconf is uploaded | 06:37 |
| * smspillaz is somewhat flooded with other stuff at the moment | 06:37 | |
| RAOF_ | smspillaz, Seems like enabling a bunch of plugins will do it. | 06:37 |
| smspillaz | RAOF_: don't enable plugins while unity is loaded | 06:37 |
| smspillaz | bad things will happen | 06:38 |
| RAOF_ | smspillaz, Given my experience with the most recent compiz upload, I can imagine :) | 06:38 |
| RAOF_ | smspillaz, Yeah, I've noticed. But after compiz crashes, restarting it doesn't fix it either. | 06:38 |
| smspillaz | RAOF_: exactly, bad things will happen | 06:38 |
| smspillaz | unity can't be unloaded | 06:38 |
| RAOF_ | Ok. Scratch that bug, then. | 06:38 |
| smspillaz | loading other plugins will unload unity | 06:38 |
| smspillaz | and then reload it | 06:38 |
| RAOF_ | But that breaks compiz *across restarts*? | 06:39 |
| smspillaz | RAOF_: don't worry, I have a million bugs for nouveau anyways | 06:39 |
| smspillaz | RAOF_: if it crashes while its unreparenting windows things get wonky | 06:39 |
| didrocks | jbicha: looking, waow dropping a lot of stuff! :) | 06:39 |
| RAOF_ | That breaks things across *X server restarts*? :) | 06:39 |
| smspillaz | RAOF_: sounds like a bug in your applications | 06:40 |
| smspillaz | compiz doesn't keep state across X restarts | 06:40 |
| RAOF_ | Unless the set of plugins I've got loaded breaks compiz. | 06:40 |
| smspillaz | post your config ? | 06:40 |
| didrocks | jbicha: is debian doing the same change? We generally avoid changing the packaging system if they didn't yet | 06:41 |
| RAOF_ | What do you need for that? | 06:41 |
| smspillaz | to see what plugins you have ? | 06:41 |
| RAOF_ | smspillaz, Yeah. | 06:41 |
| RAOF_ | smspillaz, You know what? How about I file a bug and let the apport hook do that work for me. | 06:42 |
| jbicha | didrocks: seb128 is the maintainer, maybe I should ask him? lol | 06:42 |
| smspillaz | the chances of me looking at the bug are extremely low | 06:42 |
| smspillaz | RAOF_: your bug is valuable and has been added to my queue | 06:43 |
| smspillaz | please hold | 06:43 |
| didrocks | jbicha: him, I think it's years he didn't update something in debian :-) | 06:43 |
| RAOF_ | smspillaz, But I'll point you at the logs, which should contain my config, right?\ | 06:43 |
| smspillaz | yes | 06:43 |
| didrocks | jbicha: you should ask on #debian-gnome, try to ping pochu | 06:43 |
| didrocks | jbicha: OFTC network | 06:43 |
| smspillaz | but like I said, I probably don't have time to look into it | 06:43 |
| didrocks | jbicha: otherwise, seems a nice work, you are working on updating nemiver? | 06:43 |
| jbicha | didrocks: hmm, you mean seb128 doesn't upload directly to debian these days? | 06:43 |
| didrocks | jbicha: debian-changes ML seems to tell so. I think he just append some changes in the debian-gnome vcs | 06:45 |
| jbicha | didrocks: nemiver seems up to date | 06:45 |
| jbicha | I'll try #debian-gnome | 06:45 |
| didrocks | jbicha: does it build against your new package with the ABI bump? | 06:46 |
| didrocks | jbicha: when you bump a soname, you have to check rdepends ;) | 06:46 |
| jbicha | oh, let me see | 06:46 |
| didrocks | otherwise, nemiver will dep on a libray we can't rebuild | 06:46 |
| didrocks | and the old binary package will be NBS | 06:46 |
| jbicha | right, I assumed there were no depends and forgot to check | 06:46 |
| didrocks | maybe a rebuild of nemiver is enough if the API didn't change | 06:47 |
| jbicha | upstream was talking like they intentionally wanted people to be able to run the gtk2 & gtk3 versions at the same time | 06:47 |
| jbicha | with the 2 different libraries but I think I'd rather avoid that if it's not needed | 06:48 |
| didrocks | jbicha: agreed, but that means that nemiver needs to work with gtk3 | 06:48 |
| jbicha | ah, nemiver's last git commit from 5 days ago is supposed to provide ghex 2.90 compliance | 06:50 |
| didrocks | jbicha: should we maybe wait for next nemiver release then? or do you want to take a snapshot? | 06:51 |
| jbicha | I guess it depends on how long nemiver will take to do a normal release | 06:53 |
| didrocks | jbicha: anyway, I think it's better to avoid having more NBS, if you are ok, I'll pend the ghex sponsor on that | 06:54 |
| didrocks | jbicha: next Monday is the next GNOME release, so maybe you will have a tarball there ;) | 06:55 |
| didrocks | does it make sense? | 06:55 |
| jbicha | didrocks: yes, I agree | 06:55 |
| didrocks | jbicha: great, please note that I'm on holidays for the next two weeks, I'm setting the branch as WIP for now. It builds fine and works well though :) | 06:56 |
| didrocks | thanks a lot for working on this ;) | 06:56 |
| jbicha | didrocks: have a good holiday! | 06:57 |
| didrocks | jbicha: hoping that! :-) | 06:57 |
| RAOF_ | Ok. unity --reset gets me back to something that actually draws windows, but it seems to have got the stacking code utterly confused. | 07:02 |
| RAOF_ | Time to restart! | 07:02 |
| rodrigo_ | morning | 07:03 |
| didrocks | hey rodrigo_ | 07:03 |
| rickspencer3 | hey didrocks, rodrigo_ how are you guys this morning? | 07:03 |
| rodrigo_ | hi didrocks, rickspencer3 | 07:03 |
| didrocks | good morning rickspencer3! I'm fine thanks :-) you? | 07:05 |
| rickspencer3 | didrocks, I had madelines for breakfast, so really, in the scheme of things, I'm dong pretty well ;) | 07:06 |
| didrocks | rickspencer3: ahah, seems pretty easy to satisfy! :) | 07:08 |
| RAOF_ | What determines the background colour of the new alt-tab switcher? | 07:09 |
| RAOF_ | Because it can sometimes pick white, and then use white text. | 07:09 |
| didrocks | RAOF_: the same code that take it wrong in the dash :) | 07:09 |
| didrocks | RAOF_: the green backport is yellow, isn't it? | 07:10 |
| RAOF_ | The green backport? | 07:10 |
| didrocks | background* | 07:11 |
| RAOF_ | I still don't understand. My desktop wallpaper is predominantly green, and my dash/alt-tab background is white. | 07:13 |
| RAOF_ | I have no idea where it picks that colour from, only that it changes every now and then. | 07:13 |
| didrocks | RAOF_: I have yellow! :) | 07:15 |
| didrocks | RAOF_: I'll ping gord anyway, I have a test case for him :) | 07:15 |
| pitti | Good morning | 07:16 |
| RAOF_ | Hey pitti | 07:16 |
| didrocks | hey pitti! | 07:17 |
| pitti | hey RAOF_, how are you? | 07:18 |
| pitti | didrocks: bonjour! travel was alright? | 07:19 |
| RAOF_ | pitti, Good. Looking forward to a sleep in tomorrow! | 07:19 |
| didrocks | pitti: travel was unsurprising indeed, had to jump from a power plug to another to be able to package unity and all the fuzz, but all went more or less smoothly ;) | 07:20 |
| didrocks | pitti: you? how was the train? :) | 07:20 |
| pitti | RAOF_: heh, FF took its toll, I guess | 07:20 |
| pitti | didrocks: I'm still at the hackfest in Berlin, going back this evening | 07:20 |
| pitti | didrocks: nice job! | 07:21 |
| RAOF_ | Actually, X has been quite civilised this time; all our major stuff landed well before FF. | 07:21 |
| * pitti currently downloading 200 MB of nightly updates, including the new unity goodness | 07:21 | |
| * RAOF_ notes that "goodness" might need some disclaimers. | 07:21 | |
| didrocks | pitti: oh right! how is it btw? stil good progress? :) | 07:21 |
| pitti | didrocks: bit of a setback yesterday; I had a working patch acked by two other people, but David didn't like it, so I need to re-do it now | 07:22 |
| pitti | but still good progress | 07:22 |
| pitti | last night we went to a nice Fondue dinner with all the guys | 07:22 |
| didrocks | oh great! | 07:22 |
| pitti | (yeah, while you guys were sweating for FF -- I felt a bit guilty!) | 07:22 |
| didrocks | pitti: heh, you entirely deserve some rests ;) | 07:22 |
| didrocks | rest* | 07:23 |
| rodrigo_ | hi pitti | 07:32 |
| jbicha | didrocks: I had the bright yellow background briefly, it was horrible | 07:37 |
| didrocks | jbicha: well, at least, it picks now the background :) wasn't the case in the tarball | 07:38 |
| jbicha | it was like that same crazy gold for the snap feature | 07:38 |
| RAOF_ | Mmm. This slightly-brown grey is pretty good. | 07:38 |
| didrocks | but I'll definitively ping gord | 07:38 |
| RAOF_ | Maybe they're just checking to see what colours people protest about? :) | 07:38 |
| jbicha | haha, let's try this colour! | 07:39 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, none of my lenses work since upgrading :( | 07:40 |
| chrisccoulson | they're all empty | 07:40 |
| RAOF_ | The API changed, so everything's broken. | 07:41 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: check scrollback from a couple hours ago :) | 07:41 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: empty by default | 07:43 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: make a search | 07:43 |
| didrocks | empty it | 07:43 |
| didrocks | should work, isn't it? | 07:43 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, yeah, that worked. thanks | 07:43 |
| chrisccoulson | that's not by design is it? | 07:43 |
| chrisccoulson | also, compiz lost my workspace settings :( | 07:44 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: no, "known bug in the FF rush" | 07:44 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 07:44 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: did you --reset? | 07:44 |
| chrisccoulson | i understand ;) | 07:44 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, no, i didn't do --reset | 07:44 |
| didrocks | waow, concerning… | 07:44 |
| chrisccoulson | but my number of workspaces reset back to 4 after the upgrade | 07:44 |
| didrocks | nothing changed there | 07:44 |
| chrisccoulson | (from 6) | 07:44 |
| didrocks | the compiz upload is just about removing the new alt + tab, (and people have to --reset to see it) | 07:44 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, nice. we have the new switcher by default now :) | 07:45 |
| chrisccoulson | this one is so much nicer than the old one | 07:45 |
| RAOF_ | chrisccoulson, Use it for a while and you might disagree :( | 07:45 |
| RAOF_ | Having said that, press the <down> button while alt-tabbing for more fun! | 07:45 |
| chrisccoulson | RAOF_ - i found the old one pretty much useless, especially when switching between a browser window and text editor whose contents look the same in a thumbnail ;) | 07:46 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, the down arrow is pretty cool | 07:46 |
| chrisccoulson | a bit obscure though ;) | 07:47 |
| RAOF_ | chrisccoulson, Have two terminals and try switching between IRC and one of those terminals. | 07:47 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that's a bit of a pain | 07:47 |
| RAOF_ | For bonus points, make both of those terminals fullscreen | 07:47 |
| jbicha | I don't think the down arrow works right with the crazy compiz keyboard shortcuts | 07:47 |
| jbicha | I wish the title for all open windows would show in alt-tab, I like to browse verbally & visually at the same time | 07:48 |
| chrisccoulson | it's a little confusing that the top-left corner now closes my window rather than opens the dash | 07:57 |
| chrisccoulson | that's going to cause some accidents whilst i relearn ;) | 07:57 |
| jbicha | chrisccoulson: I wonder if they might revert that if too many people can't handle that behavior changing | 07:58 |
| chrisccoulson | jbicha, i'm sure people can handle it, it's just that the learning process is a destructive one ;) | 07:59 |
| seb128 | hey desktopers | 08:02 |
| seb128 | how is everybody? | 08:02 |
| seb128 | how is oneiric? how much did we break yesterday? ;-) | 08:02 |
| RAOF_ | Lots! | 08:03 |
| rickspencer3 | hey seb128 | 08:03 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 08:03 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 08:03 |
| * pitti hasn't restarted after this morning's dist-upgrade yet | 08:03 | |
| seb128 | RAOF: excellent, today will not be boring at least! ;-) | 08:03 |
| pitti | can I? | 08:04 |
| rickspencer3 | heh | 08:04 |
| pitti | hey rickspencer3 | 08:04 |
| seb128 | hey rickspencer3 pitti | 08:04 |
| * rickspencer3 goes to test on USB key | 08:04 | |
| seb128 | pitti, I will update my 10v first :p | 08:04 |
| chrisccoulson | hi pitti, how are you? | 08:05 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: hacking furiously on g-i and pygobject :) | 08:05 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - nice :) | 08:05 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, is it normal that the window buttons in the panel are themed incorrectly? | 08:05 |
| chrisccoulson | or should i report that? :) | 08:05 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, and the workspace switcher animation is broken :( | 08:06 |
| * chrisccoulson hugs didrocks | 08:06 | |
| RAOF_ | chrisccoulson, Works here? | 08:06 |
| chrisccoulson | i keep bringing you problems ;) | 08:06 |
| RAOF_ | Bug #825036 and bug #825029 don't work here, though :) | 08:06 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 825036 in unity "Switching behaviour to a group is awkward" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/825036 | 08:06 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 825029 in unity "When alt-tabbing to an application with multiple windows the focused window is not raised" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/825029 | 08:06 |
| seb128 | hey chrisccoulson | 08:06 |
| chrisccoulson | RAOF_ - my animation appears briefly and then the thumbnails disappear, and the workspaces appear empty | 08:06 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128 | 08:07 |
| seb128 | jibel seems to have been on a testing round | 08:07 |
| seb128 | he filed quite some bugs already | 08:07 |
| RAOF_ | chrisccoulson, Oh, yeah! I swung around fast enough to not notice that! | 08:07 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll have a look and make sure he didn't already report my bugs | 08:07 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm getting quite a list ;) | 08:07 |
| rodrigo__ | need to run some urgent errands, so will be out for 2 hours or so, hopefully no more than that | 08:08 |
| rodrigo__ | so, bbl | 08:08 |
| jibel | seb128, not testing just using, even if the word "using" is not really appropriate this morning | 08:09 |
| seb128 | jibel, so seems like I should not upgrade ;-) | 08:09 |
| seb128 | rodrigo__: ok, see you | 08:09 |
| rodrigo__ | hey seb128 | 08:09 |
| rodrigo__ | seb128, hi and yes, see you in a bit | 08:10 |
| seb128 | hey rodrigo__ ;-) | 08:10 |
| * rodrigo__ leaves | 08:10 | |
| seb128 | bye | 08:10 |
| jibel | seb128, if you use a single workspace, don't switch between apps and your graphics card is not intel, that's fine ;-) | 08:10 |
| seb128 | jibel, ok | 08:10 |
| seb128 | well I use several workspaces and applications on intel :p | 08:10 |
| seb128 | so let's upgrade the 10v first | 08:11 |
| RAOF_ | Or, alternatively have a really modern intel GPU. | 08:11 |
| seb128 | I need to get work done today | 08:11 |
| seb128 | well that box is an i5 and the gpu which comes with it | 08:11 |
| RAOF_ | (My SandyBridge performance is still perfectly fine) | 08:11 |
| seb128 | we should force half of dx to work on intel ;-) | 08:12 |
| chrisccoulson | g'ah, the launcher keeps appearing under windows | 08:14 |
| chrisccoulson | or at least i think that's where it is | 08:14 |
| chrisccoulson | the dash seems to appear underneath windows too :/ | 08:15 |
| RAOF_ | Yeah, it's done that for me. | 08:15 |
| RAOF_ | And alt-tab, too. | 08:15 |
| seb128 | bouh, trying tb again | 08:15 |
| RAOF_ | We've got a new and exciting set of stacking bugs. | 08:15 |
| seb128 | the indicator indicators 204 emails in my unity box where the tb folders list indicates 109 | 08:15 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ^ is there any way to get useful infos for such bugs? | 08:15 |
| RAOF_ | Ah. I see that unity still punishes those with the temerity to try to change the volume with indicator-sound. | 08:17 |
| pitti | RAOF_: you mean that the menu disappears once you click on the slider? | 08:22 |
| seb128 | it tends to segfault the indicator and the unitypanel with it | 08:23 |
| seb128 | mvo, hey ;-) | 08:28 |
| seb128 | didrocks, is update manager packages installation working for you? | 08:29 |
| mvo | hey seb128 | 08:30 |
| didrocks | seb128: let me see, I used dist-upgrade | 08:30 |
| jbicha | seb128: update-manager has been broken for me since the apt transition this week | 08:30 |
| seb128 | jbicha, in which way? | 08:30 |
| didrocks | hum, partial upgrade proposed | 08:31 |
| seb128 | didrocks, btw what would happen to the music lens without a working backend? | 08:31 |
| jbicha | clicking to install updates freezes the u-m interface | 08:31 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I just tend to close the dialog, and do upgrade | 08:31 |
| didrocks | seb128: there is a runtime check on banshee | 08:31 |
| seb128 | jbicha, do you get an apport dialog for aptdaemon? | 08:31 |
| didrocks | seb128: and so, the lens deps on banshee | 08:31 |
| mvo | jbicha: anything on the terminal when this happens? | 08:31 |
| seb128 | didrocks, what happens if it's not there? | 08:31 |
| didrocks | seb128: hum, which "it"? | 08:32 |
| didrocks | unity recommends the music lens | 08:32 |
| didrocks | and the music lens deps on banshee | 08:32 |
| seb128 | yeah, I just did a --no-install--recommends | 08:32 |
| seb128 | I use rhythmbox | 08:32 |
| didrocks | yeah, no music lens for you :) | 08:32 |
| seb128 | I don't want a mono stack for something I don't use | 08:32 |
| seb128 | that's fine | 08:32 |
| seb128 | just don't force mono on me ;-) | 08:32 |
| didrocks | we should get a music lens agnostic | 08:32 |
| didrocks | and a banshee scope | 08:32 |
| didrocks | as well as a rhythmbox scope | 08:33 |
| didrocks | seb128: you removed tomboy? | 08:33 |
| seb128 | didrocks, on my 10v yes | 08:33 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I don't need mono, it's a slow box with a small disk | 08:33 |
| seb128 | I don't use it for work | 08:33 |
| seb128 | just for testing and web browsing | 08:33 |
| didrocks | seb128: make sense | 08:33 |
| didrocks | you won't be the online one I guess :) | 08:34 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 08:34 |
| didrocks | only one* | 08:34 |
| * didrocks needs sleep | 08:34 | |
| seb128 | I was wondering if it would have made sense to have the lens install but just empty if there is no scope for it | 08:34 |
| seb128 | but I can as well not install the lens | 08:34 |
| didrocks | seb128: as long as there is no other scope, I would say no, then separating the packaging and the code to get them separately would make sense | 08:34 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ok | 08:37 |
| seb128 | didrocks, btw let me know if you test update-manager | 08:37 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, just finishing some dpkgish things to keep in a resonable state :) | 08:38 |
| didrocks | and then, trying (it launches at least ;)) | 08:38 |
| jbicha | seb128: mvo: I filed bug 825056 | 08:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 825056 in update-manager "[oneiric] Update Manager crashes when trying to install updates" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/825056 | 08:39 |
| didrocks | ok, the partial upgrade is to remove ntfsprogs | 08:39 |
| didrocks | as I don't have any windows partition at home, I can accept that :) | 08:40 |
| * didrocks tries update-manager | 08:40 | |
| seb128 | didrocks, no need of partial upgrade, I just try by upgrading one package here | 08:40 |
| seb128 | didrocks, like dismiss the partial upgrade question | 08:40 |
| seb128 | right click, uncheck all, click one line, upgrade | 08:40 |
| mvo | thanks jbicha that is the same issue as seb128 has, let me try to fix it | 08:43 |
| seb128 | mvo, thanks | 08:44 |
| seb128 | jibel, you can go to ccsm, unity and change to static blue | 08:44 |
| seb128 | blur | 08:44 |
| seb128 | it workaround the slowness | 08:44 |
| seb128 | bah the new unity is suckfest | 08:45 |
| seb128 | it doesn't reveal the launcher with the mouse | 08:46 |
| didrocks | hum, Xorg hanged, fun | 08:46 |
| didrocks | seb128: hum? it doess there | 08:46 |
| didrocks | does* | 08:46 |
| seb128 | the dash is also to slow to be used | 08:46 |
| seb128 | it takes like 3 seconds to dislay it or do any change | 08:46 |
| didrocks | seb128: suck being on intel? :) | 08:46 |
| seb128 | well, I changed to static blur in ccsm | 08:46 |
| seb128 | that works ;-) | 08:46 |
| mvo | intel used to be the best, but … | 08:46 |
| chrisccoulson | woah, i just opened the dash and the whole thing was white | 08:47 |
| didrocks | seb128: confirmed the crash | 08:47 |
| seb128 | didrocks, thanks | 08:47 |
| chrisccoulson | and i can't read anything in it | 08:47 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: yeah, there was a race, gord_ did a fix post-release that was supposed to fix it | 08:47 |
| jibel | seb128, ok, I'll try. I'm on 2d now, I need some work done this morning. | 08:47 |
| seb128 | didrocks, mvo says he's looking on it | 08:47 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, thanks :) | 08:47 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, it uses your background color to compute its color | 08:47 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: oh, you mean, not white white, but with a white background? | 08:47 |
| seb128 | if you have a light background (my case) you are screwed | 08:48 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: already told them on an email… | 08:48 |
| seb128 | you get yellow with white text for example | 08:48 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, the dash appeared with a white background and barely readable green text | 08:48 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, my desktop isn't white ;) | 08:48 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: yeah, this one, I told them before the release | 08:48 |
| chrisccoulson | it's the standard colours :) | 08:48 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, thanks | 08:48 |
| seb128 | static blur is not the way to go :p | 08:49 |
| seb128 | I've a dash with a blurred ccsm displayed in it now | 08:49 |
| seb128 | but I'm on a workspace with only IRC | 08:50 |
| jbicha | Unity: putting the blur back in blur | 08:50 |
| seb128 | the unity panel is also unreadable in dash mode | 08:50 |
| gord_ | MacSlow, ^^ green text | 08:50 |
| didrocks | seb128: I guess that one depends on your color | 08:51 |
| didrocks | seb128: but yeah, there are a bunch of color picking issues depending on your theme and wallpaper | 08:51 |
| didrocks | in addition to the race | 08:51 |
| MacSlow | gord_, seb128: not getting the .json file hm... | 08:51 |
| jbicha | several of my dash icons are bleeding too | 08:51 |
| seb128 | bah, and I typed ccsm in the dash and it keeps spinning and returns nothing | 08:51 |
| didrocks | seb128: all keyboard activation is broken, didn't you see my email yesterday? :) | 08:52 |
| seb128 | didrocks, well it's not keyboard, the entry round thing keep spinning and it never list any icon | 08:52 |
| chrisccoulson | gord_, http://people.canonical.com/~chrisccoulson/Screenshot%20at%202011-08-12%2009:52:18.png | 08:53 |
| didrocks | seb128: so <super>ccsm ? | 08:53 |
| seb128 | didrocks, ok, half my fault | 08:54 |
| seb128 | didrocks, I was in the file lens | 08:54 |
| didrocks | ah ;) | 08:54 |
| didrocks | yeah, it's stateful | 08:54 |
| seb128 | didrocks, it opens on the previously used lens, not the main one | 08:54 |
| didrocks | that's by design | 08:54 |
| seb128 | didrocks, so it breaks the super-type-enter workflow | 08:54 |
| seb128 | that's quite an usuability step back | 08:54 |
| didrocks | the only thing I'm not sure it's by design is the fact that's the search is different between lenses | 08:55 |
| didrocks | (I talked about it on the same email) | 08:55 |
| seb128 | super-type-enter was quite efficient and is only what i.e gnome-shell is doing | 08:55 |
| didrocks | indeed | 08:55 |
| seb128 | only->also | 08:55 |
| didrocks | and +1 | 08:55 |
| MacSlow | gord_, seb128: wait... the text there isn't drawn via the DashStyle calls | 08:55 |
| MacSlow | gord_, is that StaticCairoText? | 08:55 |
| seb128 | bah | 08:56 |
| seb128 | they still didn't fix the launcher focus issue... | 08:56 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, well at least you can read the indicators text on your screenshot ;-) | 08:56 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, can you not? | 08:56 |
| didrocks | I think it's because of radiancec? | 08:56 |
| seb128 | could be | 08:57 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, launcher focus issue? like bug 825046 ? | 08:57 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 825046 in unity "Dash and launcher appear underneath windows" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/825046 | 08:57 |
| didrocks | seb128: what's the issue for showing the launcher btw, you told you can't make it appear? | 08:58 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yeah, it doesn't appear with the mouse | 08:58 |
| gord_ | MacSlow, guess so | 08:58 |
| seb128 | like I can go on the side or corner as much I want it never shows | 08:58 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, do you have a maximized window? | 08:58 |
| didrocks | seb128: if you put it on the left side? | 08:58 |
| didrocks | hum | 08:58 |
| jbicha | I set my launcher to neverhide for now because I have so much difficulty getting it to show | 08:58 |
| didrocks | I don't get that one though :/ | 08:59 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, yes | 08:59 |
| chrisccoulson | jbicha, it keeps appearing underneath windows for me | 08:59 |
| MacSlow | seb128, chrisccoulson: are you by any chance on an intel-GPU system? | 08:59 |
| didrocks | the corner doesn't work anymore, but that's known | 08:59 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, see the bug i quoted above :) | 08:59 |
| seb128 | MacSlow, yes | 08:59 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, oh ok | 08:59 |
| jbicha | I'm on intel also | 08:59 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, it's appearing underneath the windows | 08:59 |
| MacSlow | seb128, argl | 08:59 |
| chrisccoulson | MacSlow, yeah, i'm on intel | 08:59 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, that's not that for me | 08:59 |
| seb128 | I tried on an empty workspace | 08:59 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, oh :/ | 08:59 |
| seb128 | open gedit is small mode, moved it over the launcher so it hides | 09:00 |
| MacSlow | seb128, I've heard about weird bugs on intel/mesa recently (notify-osd's opacity... now this green text thing) | 09:00 |
| seb128 | but no way to get the launcher to show still | 09:00 |
| pgraner | seb128, still having login in issues, removing the .ICE authority fixes it, then once I do that and can login I get the Nautilus bar of death across the screen | 09:00 |
| MacSlow | seb128, which one does not get if you're on non mesa-drivers | 09:00 |
| jbicha | pgraner: is your /home encrypted? | 09:00 |
| pgraner | jbicha, yep | 09:00 |
| MacSlow | seb128, I'm currently pulling in all updates on my laptop (all intel) to see how much I can replicate this | 09:00 |
| seb128 | jbicha, he seems by the description that he manages to log in | 09:01 |
| MacSlow | seb128, my gut-feelin atm is, that this is a driver-bug | 09:01 |
| didrocks | seb128: works there (tried you gedit's stuff) | 09:01 |
| seb128 | so it's likely unity not starting | 09:01 |
| seb128 | pgraner, if you go to a vt and type unity while you just get nautilus, does it work? | 09:01 |
| seb128 | brb need to test new unity on a fresh session | 09:02 |
| seb128 | re | 09:03 |
| didrocks | hum, alt + tab is not showing anything if you go in the window view mode if it's minimized | 09:03 |
| seb128 | didrocks, nop, doesn't work for me | 09:04 |
| didrocks | wb seb128 | 09:04 |
| seb128 | I was on reveal in edge before upgrading if that makes any issue | 09:04 |
| didrocks | seb128: do you have edge activation still working in the unity plugin? | 09:04 |
| seb128 | not reveal on border | 09:04 |
| didrocks | hum, let me check | 09:04 |
| didrocks | as I unity --reset | 09:04 |
| didrocks | but it shouldn't have changed for you | 09:04 |
| didrocks | with the way gconf is wokring… | 09:04 |
| mvo | jbicha, seb128: thanks, I have a fix for it now | 09:04 |
| seb128 | mvo, \o/ | 09:05 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, I get your white screen issue on the 10v | 09:05 |
| pgraner | seb128, ok it looks like the unity pkg got removed somehow during one of the updates, it was there 2 days ago (machine has been consistently upgraded) adding the package back in seems to have fixed it | 09:06 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, MacSlow, didrocks: chrisccoulson's screenshot issue is fixed if you change background and bacjk | 09:06 |
| seb128 | back | 09:06 |
| mvo | glatzor: do you mind if I commit http://paste.ubuntu.com/664074/ directly? | 09:06 |
| seb128 | pgraner, ok | 09:06 |
| seb128 | didrocks, seems like the bug your tried to get fixed yesterday | 09:06 |
| pgraner | seb128, thanks, I didn't even think to see if it was installed... grrrr | 09:06 |
| seb128 | in some variant | 09:06 |
| didrocks | seb128: indeed, already pinged gord_ | 09:06 |
| seb128 | pgraner, you're welcome | 09:06 |
| MacSlow | seb128, hm... could be related to subpixel-aa of the text | 09:07 |
| seb128 | didrocks, edge activation works on the 10v | 09:07 |
| seb128 | it just don't hide if you move the cursor out of the launcher area | 09:07 |
| MacSlow | seb128, if I disable that there should be no color-fringes. | 09:07 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, yeah, changing the background worked here too | 09:08 |
| chrisccoulson | i've got the gnome-shell background now ;) | 09:08 |
| MacSlow | chrisccoulson, why/how was that part of the dash all white anyway? | 09:09 |
| seb128 | MacSlow, gord is looking at it | 09:09 |
| seb128 | MacSlow, it seems to not pick the background color until you change it | 09:09 |
| === gord_ is now known as gord | ||
| seb128 | change it = change the background | 09:10 |
| didrocks | it's a race, sometimes, it's fine | 09:10 |
| didrocks | and after gord's fix, it looked it worked for me | 09:10 |
| didrocks | seems not really doing it for everyone though | 09:10 |
| gord | it worked for me too... | 09:10 |
| didrocks | seb128: I still have reveal mode "Left" | 09:11 |
| seb128 | didrocks, well I've that as well in ccsm but I was on edge mode before and that's not working, I tried to tweak, no luck | 09:11 |
| jbicha | mvo: thanks, did you see bug 824957 also? | 09:12 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 824957 in update-manager "[gtk3] right-click context menu for links no longer works" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824957 | 09:12 |
| didrocks | seb128: weird… I trust less and less compiz configuration support… | 09:12 |
| seb128 | indeed | 09:13 |
| glatzor | mvo, go for it :) | 09:13 |
| seb128 | well any, plently of bugs | 09:13 |
| seb128 | hey glatzor | 09:13 |
| glatzor | hey seb128 ! | 09:13 |
| seb128 | didrocks, another "fun" one is that the dash doesn't fit on the 10v screen | 09:13 |
| seb128 | so I can't switch lenses | 09:13 |
| seb128 | the bottom buttons are out of the screen | 09:13 |
| mvo | glatzor: thx | 09:13 |
| didrocks | seb128: yeah, part of because the fullscreen mode is broken | 09:14 |
| didrocks | seb128: as well, try expanding the filter, it won't reorganize the icons | 09:14 |
| mvo | jbicha: I check it out next, thanks! | 09:14 |
| didrocks | seb128: and if you click on one, it will launch the hidden application underneath | 09:15 |
| mvo | jbicha: looks like the unstoppable evfool already fixed the u-m issue :) | 09:22 |
| jbicha | ooh, so fast | 09:22 |
| mvo | yeah | 09:23 |
| mvo | he is not even on irc to recieve my hug :/ | 09:24 |
| didrocks | mvo: I think you can sponsor it until he receives his hug :) | 09:26 |
| didrocks | "blocked on hug" :) | 09:27 |
| kiwinote | alex3f: hi! rev 2082 of lp:~kiwinote/software-center/tweaks should fix the traceback of the bug you just reported, however I can't seem to reproduce the sigsev that followed - can you perhaps see whether this (probably won't and shouldn't) indirectly solves the sigsev too? | 09:46 |
| alex3f | kiwinote, i'm on it, thanks | 09:47 |
| kiwinote | alex3f: fwiw it also seems you don't have an apt-xapian-index ? you can create it with "sudo update-apt-xapian-index && sudo update-software-center" | 09:49 |
| alex3f | it's a vanilla install with bzr branch | 09:49 |
| alex3f | kiwinote, it kinda works | 10:05 |
| alex3f | segfault comes from pango, 0x010ad917 in pango_glyph_string_get_width () | 10:05 |
| MacSlow | seb128, gord, chrisccoulson: I just updated my all intel-laptop and don't get these white-area issues for the dash | 10:05 |
| gord | MacSlow, don't worry about that | 10:06 |
| seb128 | MacSlow, not even on fresh login? | 10:06 |
| gord | MacSlow, its a race, happens for some people, not for others | 10:06 |
| MacSlow | seb128, got to try... once sec (you mean a fresh user?) | 10:07 |
| seb128 | MacSlow, no, just restarting your session (in opposite of restarting compiz in a running session) | 10:07 |
| seb128 | MacSlow, but as gord said it seems to be a race | 10:07 |
| MacSlow | seb128, gord: nope... not at all... tried it a few times (for my normal accout and for the guest account) | 10:09 |
| MacSlow | not happening | 10:09 |
| seb128 | gord, MacSlow: bug #811185 | 10:12 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 811185 in libgwibber "drop libgwibber source from archive" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/811185 | 10:12 |
| seb128 | ups | 10:12 |
| seb128 | bug #825091 | 10:13 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 825091 in unity "Unity crashes if you select a gradient as wallpaper" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/825091 | 10:13 |
| seb128 | gord, MacSlow: ^ you might want to look at this one | 10:13 |
| gord | assigned to me | 10:14 |
| seb128 | gord, thanks | 10:15 |
| MacSlow | gord, somehow in the back of my head I think I once ran into a similar issue... but can't atm fully refresh my mind on that | 10:16 |
| seb128 | pitti, btw I sent an email to ubuntu-devel about the retracers being down so people know what's going on | 10:38 |
| alex3f | kiwinote, updated oneiric, segfault does not appear any more | 11:09 |
| kiwinote | alex3f: sweet :) | 11:17 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, ok, i'm getting the same issue with the launcher as you :( | 11:25 |
| chrisccoulson | brb | 11:26 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, bug #825096 | 11:29 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 825096 in unity "Launcher cannot be revealed from left edge after using alt-tab" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/825096 | 11:29 |
| chrisccoulson | oh nice, i'm glad to see the favicons work in the firefox menu in unity 2d now :) | 11:29 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, thanks | 11:30 |
| chrisccoulson | how come the blur and scrolling in unity 2d is so much faster on my machine? :/ | 11:30 |
| ronoc | mvo, ping | 11:32 |
| ronoc | mvo, A bug in i-session has crept in whereby using the method you suggested the service always thinks there is an update available | 11:35 |
| ronoc | mvo, i used the same method you used in your python script | 11:35 |
| ronoc | it was working two weeks ago but just broke in the last few days | 11:35 |
| ronoc | mvo, here is my output from checking for any updates, http://paste.ubuntu.com/664174/ | 11:36 |
| ronoc | mvo, hence why I think there is an update to fetch | 11:36 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: bug #825096 | 11:37 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 825096 in unity "Launcher cannot be revealed from left edge after using alt-tab" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/825096 | 11:37 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: the unity-2d blur is a native Qt one | 11:37 |
| jbicha | ronoc: can the script also return the number of updates, 142 updates available sounds more worrisome than just 5 or 6 | 11:37 |
| didrocks | oh, should have scrollback before :) | 11:37 |
| jbicha | unless you're going for a high score :-) | 11:37 |
| mvo | ronoc: oh? could you debug-print the names of the pending updates for me please? | 11:38 |
| davmor2 | guys is there a secret I don't know to make the launcher appear in oneiric I move the mouse to top left and far left nothing, the only thing that seems to work is hitting the super key | 11:39 |
| davmor2 | nevermind seems to be working now it has appeared once | 11:40 |
| seb128 | read the backlog? | 11:40 |
| ronoc | mvo, jbicha this bug is not just on my system it has been widely reported | 11:40 |
| ronoc | on i-session | 11:40 |
| ronoc | printing names now | 11:41 |
| cjwatson | gnome-games 1:3.1.3-0ubuntu1: "Aisleriot was split out of gnome-games into its own module." | 11:42 |
| cjwatson | is anyone working on packaging that separate aisleriot? it's currently in the NBS list | 11:42 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks, ah, ok. thanks | 11:44 |
| chrisccoulson | unity-2d + metacity compositing looks just like unity 3d :) | 11:45 |
| ogra_ | better :P | 11:45 |
| chrisccoulson | only without the laggy scrolling in the dash :) | 11:45 |
| jbicha | ronoc: yes, the update indicator has been wrong most of the time here too | 11:45 |
| ronoc | jbicha, it was working fine when I first released that feature two weeks ago | 11:45 |
| ogra_ | chrisccoulson, the funniest bit is that it can also do 3d if you want ;) | 11:45 |
| ronoc | haven't touched that code since | 11:45 |
| chrisccoulson | ogra_, nice :) | 11:46 |
| seb128 | well it doesn't have the expose, etc | 11:46 |
| jbicha | ronoc: I don't know, I thought it was broken almost since it landed but anyway... | 11:46 |
| ogra_ | (unity-2d works fine with compiz) | 11:46 |
| chrisccoulson | can we have the nice alt+tab switcher in unity 2d? :) | 11:47 |
| ogra_ | iircd that comes from compiz | 11:48 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, the thunderbird menu isn't working in 2d though :( | 11:49 |
| chrisccoulson | i get empty menus | 11:49 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, and now it works | 11:49 |
| ogra_ | funny, given the firsfox one works | 11:49 |
| ogra_ | *fire | 11:49 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, it's the same code | 11:49 |
| chrisccoulson | weird :/ | 11:49 |
| chrisccoulson | could still be a bug in my extension though ;) | 11:50 |
| ogra_ | probably a traffic jam on the dbus | 11:50 |
| ogra_ | send police ! | 11:50 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 11:50 |
| rodrigo__ | police usuallyt makes traffic jams worst, so don't :) | 11:50 |
| chrisccoulson | surely you would only need police if there was a riot on the bus? | 11:50 |
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| ogra_ | spanish police ... | 11:50 |
| rodrigo_ | ogra_, yeah, maybe it's only in spain :) | 11:51 |
| didrocks | chrisccoulson: you can't get the alt + tab as the code is wrapped in the unityshell plugin | 11:51 |
| ogra_ | bah | 11:52 |
| rodrigo_ | can someone please have a try at building this branch: lp:~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/oneiric/gnome-color-manager/3_1_2_release ? | 11:55 |
| rodrigo_ | it's failing on undefined symbols from a lib it's being linked to, so I'm out of ideas | 11:55 |
| jbicha | reopened bug 812804 | 11:56 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 812804 in lightdm "lightdm asks for password when resuming from suspend even when no one is logged in" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/812804 | 11:57 |
| cdbs | Unity-greeter doesn't work for me, when I have it set, it keeps crashing and crashing on startup | 11:57 |
| cdbs | I have to set greeter-theme=unity right? | 11:57 |
| jbicha | cdbs: I'd just rm /etc/lightdm and sudo apt-get install --reinstall lightdm unity-greeter | 11:58 |
| jbicha | since it's the default now | 11:59 |
| cdbs | okay | 11:59 |
| jbicha | I don't know if removing the conf is necessary before reinstalling but it works | 11:59 |
| * cdbs runs those commands | 11:59 | |
| mvo | woah, so it seems like GtkTable in gtk3/glade is pretty much busted but fortunately moving to gtkGrid seems to fix it | 12:05 |
| cdbs | I managed to get unity-greeter work, but I get a black background on all sessions | 12:05 |
| ronoc | mvo, jbicha, ok weird g_strv_length was returning 1 when really it should have returned 0, still grappling with glib oddities obviously | 12:12 |
| ronoc | the lala.py correctly reports nothing to update | 12:12 |
| ronoc | so my C if off | 12:12 |
| ronoc | s/if/is | 12:12 |
| pobara | hi everyone, I have question: I need to programatically detect if os runs Unity based on gtk2 or gtk3; can this be achieved with gsettings? | 12:22 |
| pobara | On Ubuntu 11.10 $ gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.session session-name | 12:22 |
| pobara | says 'ubuntu' | 12:23 |
| pobara | what does it say on Ubuntu 11.04? | 12:23 |
| mvo | ok, thanks ronoc | 12:24 |
| * rodrigo_ lunch | 12:28 | |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, is evolution-desktopcouch and desktopcouch working for you in oneiric? | 12:29 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, evo-couchdb does work (with system-wide couchdb), not desktopcouch | 12:31 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, are you getting unauthrozied errors? | 12:31 |
| chrisccoulson | rodrigo_, how do you set it up with system-wide couchdb? | 12:32 |
| rodrigo_ | chrisccoulson, just 'New->Addressbook' from evolution, and select CouchDB and then 'system-wide instance' | 12:32 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, do you know if the desktopcouch issue is trcked somewhere? | 12:32 |
| rodrigo_ | or add a new source pointing to http://127.0.0.1:5984 | 12:33 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, yes, I told chipaca yesterday about it | 12:33 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, do you have a bug number? | 12:33 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, no, will find one later, after lunch | 12:33 |
| rodrigo_ | I just talked on irc with chipaca | 12:34 |
| chrisccoulson | rodrigo_, i created a small thunderbird extension to create the desktopcouch addressbook, but i can't actually test that it works ;) | 12:34 |
| chrisccoulson | although, i do get the addressbook created | 12:34 |
| chrisccoulson | a UI for creating the system couchdb addressbook isn't really required in tb is it? | 12:35 |
| rodrigo_ | chrisccoulson, ok, then create a new ESource with a property called "instance" set to "system" | 12:35 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, ok, thanks | 12:35 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, have fun | 12:35 |
| kenvandine | good morning all! | 12:35 |
| rodrigo_ | chrisccoulson, "couchdb_instance" set to "system", sorry | 12:36 |
| rodrigo_ | ok, out for lunch now for real, bbiab | 12:36 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i just realized i forgot to do the magic to update the templates when i uploaded indicator-messages... | 12:38 |
| kenvandine | i'll do that today | 12:38 |
| seb128 | thanks | 12:42 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, I forgot to do datetime according to version,can you do it as well? | 12:42 |
| kenvandine | yup | 12:42 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, do you know if libunity ignores setting of renderer? | 12:43 |
| kenvandine | that is the only problem i am having now... | 12:43 |
| kenvandine | otherwise i think the port is done | 12:43 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: already? rocks! :) I think the renderer is hardcoded right now | 12:44 |
| kenvandine | :( | 12:44 |
| kenvandine | damn! | 12:44 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: with all the underlying change, it will soon come back | 12:44 |
| kenvandine | ok, i guess i'll upload as is... | 12:44 |
| kenvandine | it is better than not working at all :) | 12:45 |
| kenvandine | right now it just displays icons and names | 12:45 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: agreed :) | 12:45 |
| kenvandine | which isn't very useful | 12:45 |
| kenvandine | but it runs :) | 12:45 |
| didrocks | is it a beautiful icon? :) | 12:45 |
| didrocks | and a good name? | 12:45 |
| kenvandine | depends on how ugly the user is :) | 12:45 |
| didrocks | heh | 12:45 |
| kenvandine | avatar | 12:45 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, also... i noticed with all the lenses, it doesn't start to get results until you enter something in the search | 12:46 |
| kenvandine | so you can't browse until you start a search | 12:46 |
| kenvandine | known bug? | 12:46 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: known bug pre-release, indeed | 12:47 |
| kenvandine | ok | 12:47 |
| kenvandine | i thought i was missing a signal or something | 12:47 |
| kenvandine | then noticed all the lenses do it :) | 12:47 |
| didrocks | yeah, you're not alone ;) | 12:48 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, my port included quite a bit of copy paste from files | 12:49 |
| kenvandine | :) | 12:49 |
| kenvandine | once I understood the new architecture a bit, it went fast | 12:49 |
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| didrocks | kenvandine: yeah, way less noise at startup | 12:50 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 12:50 |
| kenvandine | i want to figure out the multirange filter | 12:51 |
| kenvandine | or whatever it is | 12:51 |
| seb128 | pitti, hey | 12:56 |
| seb128 | pitti, I don't think we should subscribe the team to bugmail for components | 12:57 |
| seb128 | especially only for one, it's not consistent and doesn't really make sense | 12:57 |
| seb128 | pitti, what about using desktop-bugs as we do for the other desktop components? | 12:57 |
| pitti | does anyone read/get that? | 12:58 |
| seb128 | the emails go to a list | 12:58 |
| seb128 | not sure who reads it, pedro does I think | 12:58 |
| seb128 | pitti, but that doesn't justify special casing one package | 12:58 |
| pitti | *nod* | 12:59 |
| seb128 | well I mean we still have the issue that if the list is not read, nobody is subscribed to 95% the set | 12:59 |
| seb128 | it's not realistic to think that we keep up with bugs for things promoted | 12:59 |
| seb128 | in practice we just don't and there is no way we can | 12:59 |
| seb128 | we rely on bugs to be raised though qa | 13:00 |
| seb128 | well I've nothing against the "a team should be subscribed" | 13:00 |
| seb128 | but in practice it's void, we go a team subscribed but nobody reading bug emails | 13:00 |
| mvo | seb128: do you know the state of launchpadintegration for gtk3 ? will this just work? | 13:18 |
| seb128 | mvo, just work | 13:18 |
| mvo | k | 13:18 |
| seb128 | mvo, we use it in a bunch of python applications | 13:18 |
| seb128 | gtk3 python | 13:18 |
| mvo | do you have a example somewhere, the old code just crashes | 13:19 |
| mvo | ahh, nevermind, I think I can work it out from the girf ile | 13:20 |
| mvo | heh :) that was simple | 13:21 |
| seb128 | mvo, sorry didn't notice that, the api didn't change, it's like a one letter change l->L iirc | 13:28 |
| mvo | yep | 13:30 |
| * davmor2 installs gwibber lens to see how upset I can make kenvandine ;) | 13:39 | |
| Hedgehog456 | Is GNOME Shell functional on Natty yet? | 13:40 |
| davmor2 | kenvandine: it doesn't work :'( it just opens the dash | 13:42 |
| ogra_ | you probably need special glasses to make the lens visible ... order at kenvandine for $3.99 a piece ;) | 13:44 |
| kenvandine | :) | 13:45 |
| kenvandine | davmor2, i am about to upload it | 13:46 |
| kenvandine | davmor2, you have the old one :) | 13:46 |
| davmor2 | kenvandine: Damn I'm t'early | 13:46 |
| kenvandine | uploaded :) | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | now wait for building/publishing :) | 13:47 |
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| chrisccoulson | gah, i can't get apt to do anything for me because of a file conflict in some mono packages | 13:50 |
| chrisccoulson | it won't let me remove the offending packages | 13:51 |
| chrisccoulson | and apt-get install -f just tries to finish installing them | 13:51 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: it's a postinst script that's broken? | 13:52 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, file conflicts | 13:53 |
| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: oh, hrm | 13:53 |
| Laney | there was a missing conflicts/replaces | 13:55 |
| Laney | use dpkg directly to remove it maybe | 13:55 |
| chrisccoulson | mdeslaur, http://paste.ubuntu.com/664273/ | 13:56 |
| chrisccoulson | Laney, ok, will try that | 13:56 |
| pitti | ok, need to leave for the train in a bit, and network sucks anyway, so waving good bye for now | 13:56 |
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| mdeslaur | chrisccoulson: what Laney said | 13:57 |
| pitti | I might get back online in the train, but might be spotty | 13:57 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, it's getting even more broken with dpkg | 13:58 |
| pitti | seb128: you don't happen to have time for today's release meeting? | 13:58 |
| pitti | totally forgot about that one | 13:58 |
| chrisccoulson | i still can't use apt, it just wants to install the stuff i'm removing | 13:58 |
| Laney | remove the old webbrowser package | 13:58 |
| seb128 | pitti, I do have time | 13:58 |
| Laney | then you should be able to install the new one | 13:58 |
| seb128 | pitti, it's in one hour right? | 13:58 |
| pitti | seb128: yes | 13:58 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, just dpkg -i --force-all the deb | 13:59 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, it will force overwrite it | 13:59 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, or --force-overwrite | 13:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, can do | 13:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, do you update the wiki or should I do that? | 13:59 |
| pitti | seb128: merci beaucoup | 13:59 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, ok, i'll try that. apt won't let me upgrade either ;) | 13:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, de rien ;-) | 13:59 |
| pitti | seb128: if you could -- haven't done it yet, and I need to run in 10 mins | 13:59 |
| seb128 | pitti, ok, I will do it | 14:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, have a good ride back and w.e | 14:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, see you on monday ;-) | 14:00 |
| seb128 | or tuesday rather, monday is a national holiday there | 14:00 |
| pitti | thanks, happy weekend everyone! | 14:00 |
| seb128 | there->here | 14:00 |
| pitti | we have a holiday next week as well, not sure when | 14:01 |
| pitti | but I'll try to work a bit anyway, my queue is quite full | 14:01 |
| didrocks | pitti: enjoy your week-end and see you in two weeks :) | 14:01 |
| didrocks | have a safe travel back as well ;) | 14:02 |
| pitti | merci! | 14:02 |
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| dobey | hi pitti | 14:20 |
| seb128 | dobey, he left to catch his train back from the summit | 14:21 |
| seb128 | what's up? | 14:21 |
| dobey | ah ok | 14:21 |
| dobey | seb128: just wanted to verify status on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/817133 | 14:22 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 817133 in ubuntu "[needspackaging] ubuntuone-installer needs packaged" [High,In progress] | 14:22 |
| dobey | i /think/ it's uploaded and just awaiting archive admin approval now? | 14:22 |
| chrisccoulson | wow, launchpad is the biggest consumer of memory in firefox atm | 14:29 |
| chrisccoulson | this page is consuming over 90MB - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/810773 | 14:29 |
| ubot2 | Ubuntu bug 810773 in thunderbird "Changing font settings are ineffective" [Undecided,New] | 14:29 |
| chrisccoulson | compared to 18MB for twitter ;) | 14:30 |
| seb128 | dobey, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+queue | 14:31 |
| seb128 | dobey, you can check the queue yourself there | 14:31 |
| dobey | seb128: ah right, thanks :) | 14:33 |
| dobey | hrmm, it's not there :-/ | 14:34 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, I've got gnoe-contacts packaged (1st pass at least), should I push to an ~ubuntu-desktop branch? | 14:39 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, sure | 14:39 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 14:39 |
| rodrigo_ | the version I've packaged seems a bit broken though, at least for me | 14:42 |
| rodrigo_ | we need the stuff in git, which seems to be better | 14:42 |
| seb128 | jjardon said he would ask alex about the status | 14:43 |
| seb128 | and if we will get a new tarball soon | 14:43 |
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| didrocks | dobey: can you please rebuild ubuntuone-client against the new libunity? | 15:16 |
| dobey | didrocks: we don't link to libunity. we just use the gir | 15:19 |
| dobey | didrocks: so if the gir gets updated, it should 'just work', unlesss the API was broken of course :) | 15:19 |
| didrocks | dobey: there is a bump in the package name | 15:19 |
| didrocks | dobey: in the gir | 15:20 |
| didrocks | dobey: so you need to dep on latest one (and check it works of course, your part wasn't changed so should be good) | 15:20 |
| dobey | didrocks: oh, the package name changed? | 15:20 |
| didrocks | dobey: yeah to 4.0 | 15:20 |
| dobey | ah ok | 15:21 |
| dobey | didrocks: will do then, thanks for heads up :) | 15:25 |
| didrocks | dobey: yw :-) | 15:26 |
| didrocks | dobey: I rebuilt, it seems there is no crashing for now :) | 15:26 |
| didrocks | (well, rebuilt to force the new dep) | 15:26 |
| dobey | cool | 15:27 |
| didrocks | mvo: any objection about making update-manager depends on the new unity gir? | 15:32 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: can you take care of gir1.2-dbusmenu-glib-0.4? | 15:32 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: it's in the rdepends list as well | 15:33 |
| kenvandine | didrocks, sure | 15:33 |
| seb128 | didrocks, kenvandine: that's a breaks, doesn't need an update (yeah rdepends if confusing) | 15:34 |
| didrocks | ah ok, one less then! :) | 15:34 |
| didrocks | so, it's all on dobey and mvo now :-) | 15:34 |
| kenvandine | oh, woot :) | 15:34 |
| didrocks | kenvandine: [done], was it so hard? :-) | 15:35 |
| * kenvandine loves that :) | 15:35 | |
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| mvo | didrocks: its optional in u-m, its will work without problems without it | 15:42 |
| didrocks | mvo: indeed, but they can't be installed together, so can be stuck on ugprade, isn't it? | 15:43 |
| didrocks | gir 3.0 and 4.0 | 15:43 |
| didrocks | mvo: I see you have another pending change in update-manager, do you want me to push that? | 15:43 |
| mvo | didrocks: its just 3 -> 4 ? | 15:44 |
| didrocks | mvo: yeah, if you want to go for it… ;) | 15:44 |
| didrocks | works with progress bar in the launcher, normally, only the lens part has changed | 15:44 |
| mvo | didrocks: yeah, I have one other fix pending, I upload it now | 15:45 |
| didrocks | excellent, thanks :) | 15:47 |
| mvo | upload … | 15:47 |
| didrocks | thx! | 15:51 |
| dobey | didrocks: uploaded. | 16:01 |
| didrocks | dobey: excellent, thanks! :) | 16:02 |
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| * didrocks waves good evening | 16:36 | |
| didrocks | have a good week-end everyone and see you in two weeks! | 16:36 |
| rodrigo_ | I'm also out for a bit, have a good week-end! | 17:00 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, thanks, you as well | 17:03 |
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| dobey | kenvandine, mterry: want to be a sponsor? :) | 19:14 |
| mterry | dobey, sure | 19:49 |
| dobey | mterry: kenvandine grabbed it i think, but thanks | 19:51 |
| mterry | not checking IRC wins again | 19:52 |
| dobey | heh | 19:53 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 19:53 |
| kenvandine | :) | 19:54 |
| kenvandine | finishing something else first | 19:54 |
| kenvandine | but it is next in line :) | 19:54 |
| kenvandine | dobey, the diff is pretty big | 19:54 |
| kenvandine | dobey, massive diff and only one changelog entry... | 19:55 |
| dobey | kenvandine: yeah, most of the diff we're not actually installing yet. it just happens to be in trunk/tarball, because we need it for windows :) | 20:00 |
| dobey | kenvandine: welcome to the world of cross-platform development :-/ | 20:01 |
| kenvandine | ok | 20:01 |
| dobey | kenvandine: the silly qt _rc.py files are the worst, because they're byte-compiled python that would still be totally unreadable otherwise :( | 20:03 |
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