| Blazeix | I know I'm late to the javascript minification article party, but is there any instance of an AV vendor flagging JS because it's minified? | 00:10 |
|---|---|---|
| Blazeix | "As with compression in other contexts, compressing the same object twice or more does not make sense" | 00:10 |
| Blazeix | that seems to point to the author not understanding js minification at all | 00:11 |
| rick_h_ | yea, part was him misunderstanding | 00:11 |
| rick_h_ | but sounds like not minification, but packing would get it flagged | 00:11 |
| Blazeix | ok, I'd agree with obfuscators being stupid | 00:15 |
| Blazeix | but I imagine there aren't very many people that obfuscate/pack in order to reduce filesize. | 00:16 |
| rick_h_ | well, closure compiler, yui compressor, etc | 00:22 |
| rick_h_ | if you crank the settings up on there I wonder if they'd count/hit this | 00:23 |
| rick_h_ | I mean, I've never run into it, but crazy to think that a user somewhere with some AV might block my site's JS because it's been cranked through yui compressor at full titlt | 00:23 |
| rick_h_ | tilt* | 00:23 |
| Blazeix | hm, I'd consider closure compiler and yui compressor to be in the same basic family as jsmin - minifiers | 00:28 |
| Blazeix | though I suppose the distinction can be blurred | 00:28 |
| Blazeix | I guess I'll keep doing it until I hear about a problem with it; I imagine it'd be fairly big news. | 00:28 |
| rick_h_ | yea, same here | 00:29 |
| rick_h_ | it was more of a *hmm, hadn't thought of that* vs *OMG stop what you're doing!* | 00:29 |
| Blazeix | my little brother is installing natty - we'll see how this goes | 01:30 |
| Blazeix | are there any tricks to help him configure it? I remember it being fairly unconfigurable. | 01:32 |
| jrwren | snap-l: Keith Jarrett - Sun Bear Concerts | 01:46 |
| snap-l | Blazeix: There's a few out there. | 01:53 |
| snap-l | http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity | 01:53 |
| snap-l | jrwren: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Jarrett#Idiosyncrasies | 01:54 |
| snap-l | I've tried listening to his music, but man, that hurrrrr really doesn't work for me | 01:55 |
| jrwren | haha. | 01:55 |
| jrwren | i sometimes like it. | 01:55 |
| jrwren | like one of his live at the bluenote sessions is great. | 01:55 |
| jrwren | oh man... he sounds nutty. | 01:58 |
| jrwren | but he is still an amazing musician | 01:58 |
| snap-l | Yeah, he's a complete nutter. | 02:43 |
| rick_h_ | TGIF!!!!! | 11:15 |
| Wolfger | it's Friday? | 11:51 |
| Wolfger | woot | 11:51 |
| rick_h_ | better be or I'm going to have a fit | 11:52 |
| brousch | hm, the shop has been cut back to 32 hour weeks. might be time to dust off the old resume again | 11:55 |
| brousch | there are actually a lot of jobs in GR, but essentially none of them are python | 11:58 |
| rick_h_ | GR always seems a .net shop to me for some reason | 12:02 |
| rick_h_ | are you hourly though? | 12:03 |
| rick_h_ | I'd assumed you'd be salary | 12:03 |
| brousch | i am | 12:03 |
| brousch | we're still under a 10% salary reduction started in 2008 | 12:03 |
| rick_h_ | oh, ouch | 12:04 |
| brousch | still down 2 office people from layoffs at that time | 12:04 |
| brousch | GR is .net and ruby | 12:04 |
| brousch | then java | 12:06 |
| brousch | places like mutually human and atomic object are booming, busy, and hiring, but they're ruby | 12:07 |
| snap-l | brousch: That sucks | 12:34 |
| snap-l | re the hour reduction / salary cuts | 12:34 |
| ptenhoopen | brousch: Sorry to hear about the cutbacks. We were hit hard the last few years. | 12:37 |
| brousch | well the initial cutbacks are what got me out of the basement to socialize, so it's not all bad | 12:41 |
| Wolfger | you used to work in the basement? | 12:44 |
| Wolfger | did you get your red Swingline back, too? ;-) | 12:44 |
| brousch | i actually do have a red swingline, though it's dark red, not bright red | 12:49 |
| brousch | nice stapler | 12:49 |
| snap-l | I have a red swingline on my desk | 12:49 |
| snap-l | has a "Java Powered" sticker on it | 12:50 |
| Wolfger | you have to pour coffee on your stapler? | 12:52 |
| Wolfger | I mean, that's silly... but it makes more sense than you using Java intentionally. ;-) | 12:52 |
| snap-l | one sec, and I will share all | 12:53 |
| snap-l | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9058804/IMG_0410.JPG | 12:54 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: Is dropbox blocked? | 12:56 |
| Wolfger | speaking of Java Powered.... O'R's DotD :-) | 13:01 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: Dropbox is not blocked \o/ | 13:02 |
| Wolfger | Ah, yes... now I remember why I pretty much stopped reading Slashdot: http://science.slashdot.org/story/11/08/12/0359230/Researchers-Make-Graphene-From-Girl-Scout-Cookies | 13:07 |
| Wolfger | But the poll is made for rick_h_ I think ;-) http://slashdot.org/pollBooth.pl | 13:09 |
| rick_h_ | http://uploads.mitechie.com/lines_of_code.png | 13:14 |
| rick_h_ | according to gitstats run on bookie which I was hacking on last night | 13:14 |
| rick_h_ | oh, but I guess that should include work code as well...hmmm | 13:14 |
| Wolfger | LOL | 13:16 |
| Wolfger | so... the bottom option, as I suspected | 13:16 |
| rick_h_ | naw, I think it's a bit crazy to have 1000s of lines of code in a 24 time period | 13:17 |
| rick_h_ | though I do have a test for the new code in bookie last night and that counts as more LoC I'm sure | 13:17 |
| rick_h_ | if you count lines of docs I might hit the "at least 500 less than 1000" I'd bet | 13:18 |
| Wolfger | I still can't believe anybody uses LoC as a metric | 13:18 |
| rick_h_ | yea, exactly | 13:18 |
| Wolfger | kinda rewards inefficient people for being inefficient | 13:18 |
| Wolfger | "oh, I won't create a reusable object, I'll c&p this code 10 times. Wow am I ever productive!" | 13:19 |
| jrwren | what is wrong with that? | 13:19 |
| rick_h_ | I mean, any good dev knows using keyboard shortcuts is the greatest of ideals to hold to | 13:20 |
| rick_h_ | ctrl-c, ctrl-v | 13:20 |
| Wolfger | what is wrong with c&p, or what is wrong with considering c&p more productive based on some arbitrary metric? | 13:20 |
| jrwren | both | 13:20 |
| jrwren | but i can't keep trolling. | 13:21 |
| jrwren | :) | 13:21 |
| Wolfger | :-) | 13:21 |
| jrwren | cuz you said metric | 13:21 |
| rick_h_ | I tried to help jrwren :P | 13:21 |
| Wolfger | Hey, I use c&p a lot | 13:21 |
| Wolfger | but I'm not a very good coder | 13:21 |
| rick_h_ | lol http://chris-lamb.co.uk/2011/08/12/careful-what-you-wish-for/ | 13:22 |
| rick_h_ | that's awesome on a ton of levels, man | 13:23 |
| Wolfger | :-p | 13:23 |
| Wolfger | that bass-ackwards | 13:24 |
| Wolfger | instead of combining the best parts of both systems, they're taking the worst | 13:24 |
| Wolfger | "Here! It's apt, but it's slow!" | 13:24 |
| Wolfger | sorry. I'm humor deficient this morning. | 13:25 |
| * Wolfger goes to drink more coffee | 13:25 | |
| snap-l | Wolfger: Would you prefer to read that on reddit? "HEy guys, I was browsing the net for porn when I saw that scientists had made graphene from girl scout cookies. I abouot dropped my penis." | 13:29 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: ZOPMG LOL!!! | 13:30 |
| jrwren | if I had liquid in my mouth I'd ahve spit . | 13:30 |
| jrwren | apt-gentoo LOLZ | 13:30 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: ok glad someone else appreciates it as much as I do | 13:30 |
| rick_h_ | I was worried for a minute | 13:31 |
| jrwren | i esp love the "slowly scroleld" | 13:31 |
| snap-l | Oh that is awesome. | 13:31 |
| jrwren | hahahaha | 13:31 |
| snap-l | I must have it | 13:31 |
| jrwren | i'm tempted by it too snap-l | 13:31 |
| jrwren | are you going to install it? | 13:31 |
| jrwren | this is the funniest thing since funrolloops | 13:31 |
| jrwren | i'm looking at you jcastro | 13:31 |
| rick_h_ | you know, a designer did say that you need to make it appear that the ssystem "did work" even if it takes ms to do an operation | 13:32 |
| Wolfger | rick_h_: no need to worry. It was amusing. I just had a cup of grumpy this morning. | 13:38 |
| snap-l | Well, apparently the latest version of Google Chrome from the beta channel has problems | 13:38 |
| rick_h_ | ruh roh | 13:38 |
| snap-l | My sync foo isn't working | 13:38 |
| rick_h_ | hmm, latest changes went all encrypted with all sync data | 13:39 |
| jrwren | sync my cookies too damnit! | 13:39 |
| jrwren | FF sync win | 13:39 |
| Wolfger | I'm thinking apt-gentoo has a future in Hollywood.... | 13:39 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: sync my extension too! FF sync fail | 13:39 |
| jrwren | true | 13:40 |
| Wolfger | "we want to show him updating his computer. That's what it really looks like? Can you do something to slow it down and make it more verbose?" | 13:40 |
| snap-l | Make it green screen | 13:40 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: I think Hollywood finally learned a few years ago that monitors aren't green anymore | 13:42 |
| ptenhoopen | Cool shirt - http://www.teefury.com | 13:56 |
| Wolfger | Yeah. I like some of the side art more, though. | 14:04 |
| nullspace | Wolfger: I love grumpy-Os it's my favorite | 14:05 |
| brousch | ug, feeling old. i've moved into the 35-49 age bracket in a survey | 14:06 |
| _stink_ | take a salt tablet | 14:06 |
| snap-l | brousch: Now your opinion no longer matters | 14:08 |
| brousch | i'm practically lumped in with my parents now | 14:08 |
| snap-l | 18-34 <- taste makers | 14:08 |
| snap-l | 35-49 <- Some taste | 14:09 |
| snap-l | 49-65 <- Loosing taste | 14:09 |
| snap-l | 65+ <- Needs salt. | 14:09 |
| jrwren | brousch: you are old | 14:25 |
| Wolfger | snap-l: you are too old to believe that | 14:28 |
| Wolfger | he is just entering the age bracket at which lawmakers start caring about his opinion | 14:29 |
| Wolfger | In fact, your entire age bracket scenario is opposite :-) | 14:29 |
| snap-l | Wolfger: Bullshit. ;) | 14:30 |
| snap-l | You're assuming they care at all about our opinion | 14:32 |
| Wolfger | touche | 14:33 |
| nullspace | hey if you get voted in to office for being a rampant douche` can you really expect them once in office to not be a rampant douche` | 14:34 |
| rick_h_ | dammit, finally get to go see a movie and nothing good out | 14:40 |
| rick_h_ | damn you hollywood! | 14:40 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: Oh c'mon, there's plenty of movies out. | 14:41 |
| snap-l | Like, um... | 14:41 |
| rick_h_ | the smurfs! how did I miss the smurfs! | 14:41 |
| snap-l | Of course! The sequel to Avatar | 14:41 |
| rick_h_ | "on the other side of the universe...in a small small place... | 14:42 |
| Wolfger | snap-l-- | 14:48 |
| snap-l | Well, this is cool. Firefox is crashing | 15:00 |
| snap-l | and I can't start it back up | 15:01 |
| snap-l | Apparently today is the day of weird crashes | 15:01 |
| snap-l | on the plus side, my car is fixed. | 15:01 |
| snap-l | so, woo hoo! | 15:01 |
| snap-l | if we're really lucky, the check from progressive will be in the mailbox today. | 15:02 |
| rick_h_ | party | 15:06 |
| rick_h_ | http://techcrunch.com/2011/08/12/friday-time-waster-play-dos-games-in-your-chrome-browser/ | 16:17 |
| Wolfger | awesome | 16:19 |
| rick_h_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-dqtfmIs2I | 16:43 |
| snap-l | Picked up the car. Woo hoo! | 17:44 |
| Wolfger | \o/ | 18:00 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: a man with wheels yay | 18:01 |
| snap-l | Yeah, it's used-car clean too | 18:02 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I love when I take my car in for big work, always do a light detail on it for me :) | 18:02 |
| snap-l | they didn't clean the cupholders, though | 18:02 |
| snap-l | and they managed to lose the plastic cover that hangs out on the engine | 18:03 |
| snap-l | no big deal, but will take it back over there to get it replaced. | 18:03 |
| Wolfger | I think somebody posted this Programmers question to Slashdot by mistake... http://ask.slashdot.org/story/11/08/12/1433239/Ask-Slashdot-Am-I-Too-Old-To-Learn-New-Programming-Languages | 18:23 |
| snap-l | *sigh* | 18:24 |
| snap-l | If you have to ask... | 18:24 |
| rick_h_ | heh, if you want to watch my boy get stabbed at the dr watch the news monday night | 18:28 |
| snap-l | Oh joy | 18:34 |
| snap-l | Which station? | 18:34 |
| rick_h_ | wdiv? | 18:36 |
| rick_h_ | not sure what local that is | 18:36 |
| rick_h_ | but that video of her and getting Michael his immunizations is going to air during the 11pm news there I guess | 18:36 |
| snap-l | Also, set cursorline is awesome. | 18:44 |
| snap-l | Not sure I'd' have it as default, but it does come in handy. | 18:44 |
| rick_h_ | be aware it's a big cause of laggyness | 18:45 |
| rick_h_ | I used to use it all the time, but it's a perf hit | 18:45 |
| snap-l | Yeah, but it's good for what I need it for | 18:50 |
| rick_h_ | cool just an fyi | 18:50 |
| snap-l | which is editing a list of items for my GTD. | 18:50 |
| rick_h_ | there's lots of people on the list and such crying that ruby code highlight is slow, or other things | 18:51 |
| rick_h_ | usually turns out to be cursorline | 18:51 |
| snap-l | Yeah, if you're on a slow connection, any line-draw is going to be a drag. | 18:51 |
| rick_h_ | it doesn't redraw the line though, vim works by whole screen | 18:51 |
| rick_h_ | something like that, I read about it when I was having issues with it | 18:51 |
| snap-l | if they're using curses, it'll be a pain regardless. | 18:52 |
| rick_h_ | yea, anyway, big drag, but pretty and cool | 18:52 |
| snap-l | curses tries to be efficient, but slow connections are still slow. | 18:52 |
| rick_h_ | http://www.vendorclientvideo.com/ is kind of funny | 18:53 |
| rick_h_ | Wolfger: should show that to his chrysler bosses :P | 18:53 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: That video is awesome. | 19:52 |
| jjesse | that made me laugh | 20:02 |
| jjesse | its soooo true | 20:02 |
| krondor | funny but a bit one sided, we need clientvendorvideo.com I think. Show the cook buying that steak from outback and reselling it after adding some oregano. Charging maintenance on the meal too... | 21:15 |
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