[00:31] <mikeputnam> h00k: did you pitch the Ubuntu Hour / Global Jam to them (NEWLUG) yet?
[00:31] <h00k> mikeputnam: indeed
[00:32] <h00k> mikeputnam: pretty sure, we had someone drop in
[00:32] <h00k> mikeputnam: perhaps bigbash
[00:32] <bigbash> that would be me
[00:32] <h00k> OH HI
[00:33] <h00k> bigbash: are you in the Hangout right now?
[00:34] <bigbash> hi, i just happened to check irc right now
[00:34] <h00k> bigbash: hi :)
[00:35] <bigbash> i stay signed in via znc
[00:36] <bigbash> newlug actually had a meeting tonight but i missed it
[00:36] <h00k> it's still happening
[00:36] <bigbash> ah you in it?
[00:36] <h00k> YEah
[00:37] <mikeputnam> bigbash: hit Google+ and find us!
[00:39] <bigbash> ok
[00:40] <bigbash> my audio doesnt work
[00:40] <bigbash> bjt my video does
[00:47] <bigbash> ok on
[00:47] <h00k> hi :)
[00:52] <bigbash> bye
[00:57] <h00k> The wife was wanting to Hangout ;)
[01:23] <mikeputnam> bigbash: are you Shawn McGuire?
[01:23] <bigbash> I am
[01:24] <mikeputnam> Hi there
[01:24] <bigbash> hello
[01:28] <mikeputnam> I work in Neenah
[01:29] <bigbash> cool, as programmer?
[01:29] <bigbash> I'm working in Appleton
[01:29] <mikeputnam> yeah. Oracle/PeopleSoft
[01:29] <mikeputnam> Ross here is erm "verbose".
[01:30] <mikeputnam> lol
[01:30] <mikeputnam> I live in Appleton
[01:30] <bigbash> lol
[01:30] <mikeputnam> we are polar opposites
[01:31] <bigbash> Not a fan of the construction going/or will be going on
[01:31] <bigbash> I was driving from Oshkosh to Appleton for a while
[01:32] <mikeputnam> yeah. the commute gets a little tense in construction
[01:32] <mikeputnam> blech.  25 minutes?
[01:32] <bigbash> yea a lot longer in the winter
[01:32] <mikeputnam> i did manitowoc to Neenah for 6 months
[01:32] <mikeputnam> terrible
[01:32] <bigbash> wow that's rough
[01:33] <mikeputnam> 17 minutes door-to-door now
[01:34] <bigbash> nice, that's about the same here, we used to be at the far end of Wisconsin ave so all the lights would slow me down but we move to the old Wave building now
[01:34] <mikeputnam> nice.  right off the exit
[01:35] <bigbash> yup
[01:35] <mikeputnam> Do you code too?
[01:35] <mikeputnam> for work
[01:35] <mikeputnam> obviously you do on github
[01:36] <bigbash> umm a little bit, at work we are MS so I do C#
[01:37] <bigbash> right now it's mostly scraping stuff from terminal emulation
[01:37] <mikeputnam> Java-esque!
[01:37] <bigbash> I really want to learn Java and I've been trying to find time
[01:38] <mikeputnam> It can be somewhat verbose, but ut's very capable.
[01:38] <mikeputnam> *it's
[01:38] <bigbash> I don't mind that
[01:39] <mikeputnam> python is <3
[01:40] <bigbash> How do you take control of applications?  Like right now I take control of Attachmate application
[01:41] <mikeputnam> I don't follow
[01:43] <bigbash> like right now I'd include a reference dll file, and do something like "using Extra;"
[01:44] <mikeputnam> hmm
[01:44] <mikeputnam> you mean in Java?
[01:44] <bigbash> then Extra.ExtraScreen _xtraScreen = new ExtraScreen(); and then I can call _xtraScreen.SomeFunction
[01:44] <mikeputnam> that sounds somewhat like Java's   import
[01:44] <bigbash> in either Java or Python
[01:45] <mikeputnam> Foo foobar = new Foo();
[01:45] <mikeputnam> in java
[01:45] <mikeputnam> python is different
[01:45] <bigbash> hmm then just use import for the reference file?
[01:47] <bigbash> does it matter if the application is Windows only?
[01:48] <bigbash> I'm actually looking at switch software to a Java based one
[01:57] <bigbash> ok I gotta run
[01:57] <EgyParadox> you want to switch to Java since it works on any platform?
[01:57] <bigbash> Yes
[01:57] <bigbash> short answer
[01:58] <bigbash> I'll be back on later though
[01:59] <mikeputnam> bye bye
[02:08] <h00k> I'm writing up a post about my VPS hosting provider.
[02:08] <h00k> I'm pretty angry.
[02:28] <bigbash> h00k who is your VPS provider?
[02:43] <h00k> thrust::vps
[02:44] <h00k> http://anthonyrhook.com/blog/2011/08/11/how-to-dos-me-from-my-own-vps/
[02:48] <bigbash> wow priority low?
[02:49] <h00k> yep.
[02:50] <bigbash> I'm curious to see what they come back with
[02:51] <h00k> Me too.
[02:51] <h00k> why the hell would you do that.
[02:51] <h00k> That's just...bah.