[00:01] <KE1HA> goddard: Im sure I read that USB 30. was initially upported in a 2.6.3x version somwhere, it your specific harward not supported?
[00:02] <goddard> so far no
[00:02] <goddard> i have a fourm post about it let me dig it up
[00:03] <goddard> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1817164
[00:03] <goddard> in fact when i have anything plugged into it one of my other USB ports doesn't work
[00:03] <KE1HA> Here's what I had bookmarked: http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/06/11/linux-is-first-os-to-support-usb-30
[00:03] <goddard> a usb 2.0 port
[00:04] <MuftiMan> My god that's alot of lurkerz ;p
[00:07] <KadirB> hi
[00:07] <KadirB> whats up people!
[00:08] <goddard> KE1HA: let me know if you come up with anything on my forum post
[00:10] <goddard> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v3.0/ChangeLog-3.0.1
[00:10] <goddard> patch information
[00:12] <zachlr> so there's no Ubuntu Netbook Edition anymore, it's just Ubuntu 11.04?
[00:13] <oskar_> hola
[00:14] <KE1HA> goddard: Is the xHCI patch supported in upstream now or it is still a custom build if you want 3.0 support?
[00:14] <oskar_> hola como puedo buscar un canal aqui?
[00:15] <bjpenn> how to add apache to automatically start up whenever the system starts up?
[00:15] <oskar_> w
[00:15] <oskar_> #w
[00:15] <oskar_> hola
[00:15] <oskar_> alguien me puede ayudar?
[00:16] <m4v> !es | oskar_
[00:16] <oskar_> thanks
[00:18] <goddard> KE1HA: im not entirely sure I had to modprobe it myself i did have another driver initially
[00:18] <Gr33n> hi anyone around?
[00:19] <yutani> anyone familiar with scite?
[00:19] <KE1HA> goddard: these are probably questin better suited for the moto / ub-kernel folks.
[00:19] <Gr33n> :( having an issue dual booting ubuntu with windows xp
[00:19] <nutcase_> o_0
[00:19] <h00k> !dualboot | Gr33n
[00:20] <Gr33n> well thats the thing i been to those sites
[00:20] <KE1HA> Gr33n: what's problem?
[00:20] <Syanu> good evening. is there a channel for german support too?
[00:20] <Gr33n> i installed ubuntu from cd and in seemed to install fine set 35GB to it and the rest to xp
[00:20] <Gr33n> but now its just booting to XP
[00:21] <Gr33n> i cant get in to ubuntu
[00:21] <KE1HA> Gr33n: was XP installed first?
[00:21] <Gr33n> yes
[00:21] <yutani> GRUB didn't install?
[00:21] <KE1HA> Gr33n: well that's the good news then, all ya need to do is go in and rebuilt Grub2, are you using 11.04?
[00:21] <Crys> Let's try again ... I need some advice to get jack sensing working on my HTPC. It's an Ubuntu 11.04 AMD64 box and has an Intel HD Audio (Azalia) with Realtek ALC892 codec. The front panel supports HD audio and jack sensing is working on my secondary Windows 7 installation, too. The front panel works on Linux but plugging in head phones doesn't mute the speakers.
[00:22] <JimmyNeutron> Gr33n, boot into Linux single user mode, and issue dd if=/dev/<linux root> of=bootsec.lnx count=1 bs=512
[00:22] <JimmyNeutron> copy the bootsect.lnx onto a USB stick and copy it to C:\ and modify boot.ini
[00:23] <Gr33n> sorry i got DC'ed
[00:23] <Gr33n> yeah windows XP was installed first
[00:23] <Gr33n> I don't think Grub installed because its just booting straight to XP i tried to install unbuntu twice
[00:24] <Gr33n> both times it installed without an error
[00:24] <KE1HA> Ok, well there's seems to be a diff on how to do this, I use Grub to boot my Win-XP / UB box, and it works well. If it's not installed you cna do that post Ubuntu installation.
[00:24] <Crys> Gr33n: do you have two hard disks? maybe you have installed it in the wrong MBR.
[00:24] <Gr33n> no just one its a netbook with an external CD drive
[00:25] <gmachine_24> Hi - I am running a Compaq Presario F500 with Ubuntu 10.04.03 LTS. Can someone please give me the CLI commands to release and then renew/reset the wireless network device? Thanks.
[00:25] <Crys> gmachine_24: are you using the network manager?
[00:25] <adamkex> does ATI on linux do 1080p?
[00:25] <gmachine_24> Crys, no.
[00:25] <adamkex> smooth video playback
[00:25] <Crys> gmachine_24: then it's probably ifdown wlan0
[00:27] <gmachine_24> Crys, could it be eth1?
[00:27] <Crys> gmachine_24: "ip list" displays a list of devices and links
[00:27] <KE1HA> Hmm looks like Gr33n DC'd again
[00:27] <Gr33n> sorry got disconnected again hopefully the last time
[00:27] <Gr33n> yeah my install was on just that HD
[00:27] <Crys> gmachine_24: it depends on the hardware. try iwconfig or ip link
[00:28] <KE1HA> Gr33n: Try this, should doo what your needed: http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/
[00:28] <gmachine_24> Crys, the problem is when I go to Starbucks the computer recognizes the attwifi network but my computer will not connect to it. If I reboot into Windows 7 it connects fine.
[00:28] <Gr33n> thank you KE1HA!
[00:28] <Gr33n> ill give that a go
[00:29] <KE1HA> All that is doing is, using the LiveCD to mount a linux system, then chrooting in then re-sinstalling Grub2
[00:29] <gmachine_24> Crys, yeah........ no matter which query I use it comes back that eth0 is the hardwire and eth1 is the wireless
[00:29] <Crys> gmachine_24: wireless is a tricky beast. You may need to fiddle with wpa_supplicant and lots settings.
[00:29] <lapaga> Gr33n: Gr33n just to try something easy - from term type sudo update-grub and see if that does anything
[00:29] <KE1HA> lapaga: he can't get into Ubuntu
[00:29] <Crys> gmachine_24: Fore desktop users I recommend 11.04 and network manager. It makes life much easier.
[00:29] <gmachine_24> Crys, ok. thanks. I've been doing this for almost 10 years and this is the first time I've ever had trouble connecting at Sbux.
[00:30] <Crys> gmachine_24: ah, you are a pro, sorry :)
[00:30] <lapaga> well that would make it harder to type that then:)
[00:30] <gmachine_24> Crys, which network manager. I tried gnome and then WICD and although they both work fine on my home network neither connects at Sbux. No I am not a pro.
[00:31] <Gr33n> lol @ lapaga ;)
[00:31] <gmachine_24> Crys, I'm just sort of out of options at the moment.
[00:31] <Crys> gmachine_24: there is only one network manager. The gnome tool is just a GUI app to control the network manager daemon.
[00:31] <Gr33n> waiting for it to boot in to live mode
[00:31] <KE1HA> lapaga: Yeah, he jsut needs to re0nstall grub2 and update, but make sure he's chroot'ed in properly.
[00:31] <gmachine_24> Crys, ok. So......... wicd and gnome-network run the same network manager daemon?
[00:32] <gmachine_24> ok, not run, but you know
[00:32] <Crys> I don't know anything about wicd, sorry.
[00:32] <gmachine_24> Crys, I'm pretty sure it's just a diff GUI.
[00:32] <KadirB> hello
[00:33] <gmachine_24> Crys, but it has worked at times when I could not connect otherwise
[00:33] <Crys> In the past I've configured wpa_supplicant and my networks manually. Nowadays I stick to nm on desktops because it's easier to use and stores the password in the wallet.
[00:34] <gmachine_24> OK - perhaps I am confusing old DOS commands with Linux commands It happens sometimes........
[00:34] <gmachine_24> Crys, thanks for your help.
[00:35] <Crys> you are welcome
[00:35] <Apocalipse> hello people...
[00:35] <JoeR1> so Ubuntu took a bog old s**t on me that is vaguely reminiscent of the complaint I hear about windows, The Irony of it has not escaped me.
[00:35] <JoeR1> *big
[00:35] <Apocalipse> i am having problems with minicom...
[00:35] <Crys> gmachine_24: anyway, why are you running LTS on a desktop machine? The latest version has more recent drivers and software which may make your life easier.
[00:35] <KadirB> :D
[00:35] <KadirB> (L)
[00:35] <Apocalipse> can anybody help me?
[00:36] <KE1HA> Gr33n: If your around, here's one that is a bit easier to follow: http://blogging.dragon.org.uk/index.php/mini-howtos/howto-reinstall-grub2-on-ubuntu
[00:36] <JimmyNeutron> dont ask to ask, just ask
[00:36] <gmachine_24> Crys, because I don't like ......... whatever the new desktop is called. and I know I can switch but I am lazyl.
[00:36] <Crys> the new gnome thingie. Yeah, I'm a KDE user
[00:36] <sudokill> gmachine_24- all you have to do to get rid of the unity bar is go to classic mode
[00:36] <sudokill> then its like 10.10
[00:37] <gmachine_24> Crys, ha. Yeah. Plus I have a bunch of multimedia installs configured on this computer which are not always so easy for me to do.
[00:37] <Crys> I've moved from fvwm2 to kde about ten years ago or so.
[00:38] <gmachine_24> sudokill, hi. Maybe I will give the live boot version another go. I just hate reinstalling a bunch of software which has in the past given me a headache.
[00:38] <induz> is there any program that can search a doc file[resume] in my computer that was modified some 2 months back??
[00:38] <gmachine_24> I did an upgrade once - after my first install - and swore I would never do another.
[00:38] <KadirB> hello
[00:39] <Crys> gmachine_24: you have to in 2013 eventually.
[00:39] <Crys> IIRC LTS has desktop support for three years.
[00:39] <gmachine_24> Crys, but if my math is correct, that's two years from now
[00:39] <gmachine_24> :)
[00:39] <Crys> almost ;)
[00:39] <lauratika> i have a problem now when i login i choose ubuntu classic and it loads unity, if choose ubunut classic no fx the it loads as expected (gnome style) but no effects at all... what can be wrong and why ubuntu classic isnt working when selected?
[00:39] <JoeR1> OK, so the symptoms: windows no longer have the min/max/exit controls, the Background doesn't appear, (I'm using Xubuntu) the contextual desktop menu does not appear, many windows cannot be moved once opened, many windows, after being opened, cannot be interacted with, windows no longer "lock" to the sides of the screen
[00:40] <sudokill> JoeR1- reinstall lol
[00:40] <induz> I have to find my resume on my comp but there seems to be tons of resume.doc on my system... I updated my resume some 2 months back but can not find it
[00:40] <JoeR1> this only happens under my progile and please do not advise me to re-install or setup a new profile
[00:41] <induz> is there any way i can locate that file with ;name' and ' Modified date'
[00:41] <JoeR1> *profile
[00:41] <KE1HA> JoeR1: You may want to ask charlie over in #xubuntu  he's usually there most of the time.
[00:41] <Crys> induz: locate resume.doc | xargs ls -la
[00:41] <JoeR1> induz - catfish
[00:41] <AaronMT> !help
[00:41] <AaronMT> !natty
[00:42] <Crys> induz: or find /home/user -name resume.doc | xargs ls -lt
[00:43] <wildbat> induz:  find /yourdir -iname 'resume.doc' -mtime -60
[00:43] <jgeli> 	need help /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a disk with multiple partition labels or both partition label and filesystem. This is not supported yet - what does this mean and how do I fix it?
[00:43] <induz> i dont know the drictory, its in the computer
[00:44] <Bookman> I don't seem to be able to get any flash content to play anymore.  It worked find up until this morning.  I've tried re-installing Flash 10 via synaptic but it still will not work correctly.  I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 and Firefox.  My system is completely up to date.
[00:44] <Crys> induz: it's most probably in your home dir
[00:44] <induz> its hard from command line for me
[00:45] <Gruffy> I just realized how annoying conflicting theme managers can be...
[00:45] <wildbat_semi_afk> induz: just / then
[00:46] <induz> just /then ???
[00:46] <wildbat_semi_afk> induz:  find / -iname 'resume.doc' -mtime -60  2> /dev/null
[00:46] <KE1HA> that's gonna seach allot of file, xargs may help then
[00:46] <argentico75> hello
[00:47] <Crys> KE1HA: yeah, I'd use | xargs ls -lt
[00:47] <KE1HA> Gruffy: Choise is good, but sometimes a bit of a pain :-)
[00:47] <induz> the name of the resume is I am not sure but it has Resume on it and its a doc file in my system, modified about 2 months back
[00:47] <argentico75> Ive a problem with this web page: http://translate.google.com.ar/#es|en|
[00:47] <nessonic> hell
[00:48] <nessonic> 0
[00:48] <induz> find / -iname 'resume.doc' -mtime -60  2> /dev/nul.....shows nothing
[00:48] <Crys> induz: find / -iname '*resum*' | xargs ls -lt
[00:48] <argentico75> but I don't know if Its me or the web page
[00:48] <induz> Crys, it gives me a list on command and i dont know what to do with it
[00:48] <argentico75> can someone check it? It s supposed to be of google
[00:48] <tjiggi_fo> argentico75, works here
[00:48] <nessonic> Trying to use scp to copy some files between computers, but I keep getting "could not resolve hostname"
[00:49] <induz> Crys, it says permission denied
[00:49] <Gruffy> KE1HA: True, but sometimes when you don't know what you have installed, it can be really fustrating.. Like I have my emerald and gnome conflicting.
[00:49] <Crys> induz: ignore the errors
[00:49] <nutcase_> i'm looking for a dvd creator any recommendations
[00:49] <wildbat_semi_afk> induz:  are you sure the name and the modified day? ~ extend the day to within 90 days may be .
[00:49] <KE1HA> I like Emerald, but I've always had troubles with it.
[00:50] <Gruffy> I can never get anything I want working completely. It's either partly or nothing.
[00:50] <argentico75> tjiggi_fo, but for me it opens a second web when I use it as home page
[00:50] <induz> its showing a lots of output but i dont know how to interpret them
[00:50] <Gr33n> =/ didn't work
[00:51] <gmachine_24> Is there something in Ubuntu that runs ActiveX?
[00:51] <induz>  find / -iname '*resum*' | xargs ls -lt....shows a lot of results but I dont know how to locate and open my file
[00:51] <jgeli> 	need help /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a disk with multiple partition labels or both partition label and filesystem. This is not supported yet - what does this mean and how do I fix it?
[00:51] <argentico75> tjiggi_fo, Ive erased the cache and all in .mozilla/firefox/ but its the same
[00:51] <induz> wildbat_semi_afk, yes the name and modified dates are right
[00:52] <KE1HA> Gr33n: What are the symptopsms your gettign now
[00:52] <Crys> find / -iname '*resum*' -and -type f 2>/dev/null | xargs ls -lt
[00:52] <induz> is there some simple program, i had it on my ThunderBird but it crashed too
[00:52] <gmachine_24> Ok - thank you one and all. Have a good evening.
[00:53] <Gruffy> Nothing now, as I had uninstalled emerald.
[00:53] <Gruffy> I like gnome better anyhow.
[00:53] <induz> find / -iname '*resum*' -and -type f 2>/dev/null | xargs ls -lt.....> shows nothing
[00:54] <KE1HA> Gr33n: Following this simple version should work: http://blogging.dragon.org.uk/index.php/mini-howtos/howto-reinstall-grub2-on-ubuntu
[00:54] <induz> is there any GUI program
[00:54] <tjiggi_fo> argentico75, just tested it as homepage and working as expected in FF5.0 Canonical
[00:55] <treyh> wow the room is kinda quiet!
[00:55] <treyh> lol
[00:55] <nessonic> anyone knowledgeable in ssh?
[00:55] <KE1HA> Gr33n: However, be certain when install Grub2 you use /dev/sda  and not /dev/sda1 or /.sda2 etc etc
[00:55] <treyh> nessonic: post your question
[00:55] <nessonic> trying to use scp to transfer some files between computers, but I keep getting could not resolve host
[00:55] <rypervenche> nessonic: What command are you using?
[00:56] <Gruffy> nessonic: what are you using to ssh
[00:56] <wildbat_semi_afk> induz: find / -iname '*.doc' -mtime -90  2> /dev/null                     this will give you all the doc edited within 3 moths. if you can't find it ~ you must have somthing wrong, like you didn't mount the drive ~ it is in USB in your pocket etc.
[00:56] <nessonic> I've tried a few, such as "scp myfile myname@myhost: ."
[00:56] <treyh> nessonic: can you ping "myhost"
[00:56] <rypervenche> nessonic: the man page will tell you how to do it.
[00:56] <nutcase_> does transcoding dvd take as long on ubuntu as its does on wins i never tried before
[00:57] <Crys> nessonic: you need to provide a full path after the colon
[00:57] <Gruffy> nutcase: It depends on what you use to transcode.
[00:57] <Crys> nessonic: user@host:/path/to/directory/
[00:57] <nessonic> I'm able to ping myself
[00:57] <nessonic> and I read that the . will make it default to local directory, but I've tried pathnames as well with no luck
[00:57] <treyh> can you ping the remote side?
[00:57] <KE1HA> can probably pong urself too ... sri couldnt' resist :-)
[00:58] <treyh> KE1HA: lol
[00:58] <Crys> nessonic: ~ works for me as home dir
[00:58] <induz> wildbat_semi_afk, it gives me a list on command line but i dont know wht to do with that
[00:58] <Gruffy> nessonic: What are you using to ssh? Terminal?
[00:58] <nessonic> I can ping the remote computer
[00:58] <rypervenche> nessonic: You put a space in btween the : and ., try it without
[00:59] <treyh> nessonic: can you ssh to the remote side?
[00:59] <nessonic> I'm on a mac, using terminal. I've also tried my ubuntu partition with the same error
[00:59] <Crys> nessonic: can you ssh into the machine?
[00:59] <nessonic> I am connected to the ssh successfully yes
[00:59] <argentico75> how can I eliminate a spyware from firefox 5?
[00:59] <argentico75> or malware
[00:59] <roko> ?
[00:59] <treyh> nessonic: scp source-specification destination-specification
[00:59] <edbian> argentico75: spyware / malware does not usually install itself in the browser.
[00:59] <roko> hola
[00:59] <edbian> argentico75: It usually uses the browser to install itself to the system.
[00:59] <argentico75> nno
[01:00] <edbian> argentico75: no?
[01:00] <nessonic> Also, would I be able to ssh if port 22 is closed? I've quadruple checked it in router settings according to a couple guides, but network utility on my mac claims it's closed
[01:00] <Gruffy> nessonic: Try going to your Ubuntu partition and using the file browser itself to ssh.
[01:00] <argentico75> maybe some of the extensions
[01:00] <RudyValencia> My PC's BIOS (er, EFI actually) uses the "Fixed 16px" console font :O
[01:00] <Gruffy> I did this yesterday with my iphone and it works beautifully
[01:00] <argentico75> forecast bar, adblock plus, user switcher agent
[01:00] <edbian> argentico75: Look at your extensions.  If they are from the official firefox add-ons website they are almost def not malicious
[01:00] <edbian> argentico75: None of those are malicious
[01:00] <argentico75> yes, official
[01:01] <edbian> argentico75: What are you asking?
[01:01] <nessonic> Tried scp without the space before the period, same luck
[01:01] <induz> is there any graphical program on ubuntu to locate a doc file that as modified last month
[01:01] <argentico75> I erased all in /.mozilla/firefox
[01:01] <argentico75> also the extensions
[01:01] <treyh> nessonic: sounds like the port is closed
[01:01] <argentico75> and Its the sae
[01:01] <argentico75> same
[01:01] <KE1HA> or the port is not actually on 22
[01:01] <nessonic> treyh: would that only block file transfers? or the whole ssh? I figured it was open because I was able to ssh in
[01:01] <wildbat_semi_afk> induz: like i said the list is the file named *.doc which edited within past 3 months ~ .... the resume should be in the list
[01:01] <treyh> argentico75: ever user or just yours?
[01:02] <nessonic> the sshd_config says to listen on 22
[01:02] <Gruffy> KE1HA might be right.
[01:02] <argentico75> I tried with the web page .com and also .com.ar and is the same
[01:02] <Gruffy> :p
[01:02] <argentico75> mine
[01:02] <argentico75> my laptop. anyone touch it
[01:02] <edbian> argentico75: What is 'the same'  What is the problem?
[01:02] <treyh> nessonic: specify the port, -P 22
[01:02] <lauratika> argentico75; what is the question?
[01:02] <induz> wildbat_semi_afk, I see a list of files after inserting the command but how can i locate the file
[01:02] <nessonic> same issue
[01:02] <induz> its somewhere in the system
[01:03] <argentico75> it opens the web page of google translation and two other tabs, one about "virus in your PC" and another blank
[01:03] <induz> wildbat_semi_afk, YOUR COMMAND IS RIGHT BUT I LACK THE KNOWLEDGE OF INTERPRETING THE COMMAND LINE TO LOCATE THE FILE
[01:03] <induz> sorry for Caps
[01:03] <induz> wildbat_semi_afk, sorry for caps
[01:03] <treyh> nessonic: try using sftp instead
[01:03] <lauratika> argentico75: what browser you use?
[01:04] <argentico75> I happens when I put this direction as home page and open a new instance: http://translate.google.com.ar/#es|en|
[01:04] <edbian> induz: hahaha
[01:04] <argentico75> firefox5 on ubuntu 11.04
[01:04] <induz> edbian, I am nervous as i can not find my file
[01:04] <argentico75> also with http://translate.google.com/#es|en| (not .com.ar)
[01:04] <lauratika> do you try with another wbe broswer?
[01:04] <nessonic> treyh: gives same error, but adds "couldn't read packet: connection reset by peer"
[01:04] <treyh> nessonic: whats the error, connection refused?
[01:05] <edbian> argentico75: The official language for #ubuntu is english.  I recommend you use the channel for your first language
[01:05] <induz> edbian, pl dont make fun of me
[01:05] <KE1HA> nessonic: just making sure, this is the format your using correct? : scp  <file> <username>@<IP address or hostname>:<Destination>
[01:05] <edbian> induz: What file?  I can help you find it :)
[01:05] <nessonic> yes, is the username at IP my local (the machine I'm on now) or the remote one where I'm getting the file>
[01:05] <edbian> induz: I'm not making fun of you.  I just thought the accidental yelling was humorous
[01:05] <wildbat_semi_afk> induz: lol~ that's all we can help ~ as per your discription ~ the find didn't hit ~ . open the document editor and hope that it is in the recently opened list :>
[01:05] <wasanzy>  I have been task to write down a backup system plan, and in fact, for more than three hours now, I have just been thinking on where to start with no idea coming in my head, please who can help me with ideas, at least on how to start?
[01:05] <treyh> nessonic: remote username
[01:05] <wasanzy> for the software, I will advice them to use backuppc
[01:05] <argentico75> Im writing in english and anyone is in the spanish channel
[01:06] <KE1HA> nessonic: you ahve to tell it what file to copy and where to put it on the other end.
[01:06] <treyh> localhost# scp local-file user@remotemachine:remote-file
[01:06] <dr_willis> !backup | wasanzy
[01:06] <jgeli> anyone?
[01:06] <jgeli> 	need help /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a disk with multiple partition labels or both partition label and filesystem. This is not supported yet - what does this mean and how do I fix it?
[01:06] <lauratika> edbian: why are you senindg some one to another channel if he is using english, read the issue
[01:06] <edbian> wasanzy: your backup plan:  cp -r / /path/to/some/other/hdd/
[01:06] <KE1HA> nessonic: and if either of them are wrong / do not exist, it will fail to execute.
[01:07] <nessonic> This time it asked for a password, then said "your/directory: no such file or directory"
[01:07] <edbian> lauratika: I can't understand him.
[01:07] <nessonic> with your/directory being where I want it on my local mac
[01:07] <treyh> nessonic: paste the command so we can advise
[01:07] <edbian> argentico75: What is the problem?
[01:07] <nessonic> scp macaddress ness@nessmain:/Users/toby
[01:07] <lauratika> that does not mean he is not using english and the problem is what and how he is explaining not that his english it's bad
[01:08] <lauratika> the fact that you dont understand the question is absolutely no reason to send him to another channel
[01:08] <dr_willis> nessonic,  you do have the case of 'Users' correct? linux is case senesetive.
[01:08] <wasanzy> thank you both, am actually not looking for the command to use, but some thing like project plan, which they call backup and recovery plan or some thing
[01:08] <KE1HA> nessonic: no, when you opent he terminal, you need to cd to where the file is, or specify the full path like: ~/uploads/some-file-name.doc  and the destination path must also exist lile /home/some-username/upolads
[01:08] <treyh> nessonic: try this: scp macaddress toby@nessmain:macaddress
[01:08] <nessonic> dr_willis: yes
[01:09] <wildbat_semi_afk> induz: are you sure it is not in external drive etc? have you email it ,if so check your SENT box? unless you wanna let ppl ssh in you PC and help the search  (risking stealing your info , install virus maybe ;p j/k ) , that all i can help.
[01:09] <edbian> wasanzy: My point is that backup does not need to be a complicated thing.  Just make a copy of everything and put it on some other hdd.
[01:09] <dr_willis> nessonic,  oddly named directory.. I alwaya have to double check scp syntax -    scp myfile.txt user@myserver.com:/tmp/mydir
[01:10] <nessonic> the directory is on my mac, where mac has every directory capitalized
[01:10] <edbian> induz: wildbat_semi_afk what file are we searching for?
[01:10] <farty_pants> HI
[01:10] <dr_willis> nessonic,  you could ssh into the remote box. cd to that dir.. then scp from the   other box..
[01:10] <KE1HA> exactly, cus if you dont, you can overwrite a dir with a dile or file with a dir.
[01:10] <farty_pants> WHats the best software that will convert avi to dvd AND burn as well?
[01:10] <treyh> nessonic: also never hurts to use "tab" locally when you type the command to put the format in cirrectly
[01:10] <edbian> farty_pants: devede
[01:10] <dr_willis> nessonic,  ahh.. a mac.. If i 'rember' right.. the mac does some  magic - where the case of files the GUI shows does not match the case in all cases. (: P)   that the underlaying OS/shell/  shows...
[01:10] <edbian> farty_pants: my opinion of course
[01:10] <farty_pants> it will also convert?
[01:10] <nessonic> I've been trying tab, but it never completes for my mac, only the remote linuxbox's
[01:11] <treyh> nessonic: i know the fix, quit using mac
[01:11] <treyh> lol
[01:11] <KE1HA> lol
[01:11] <nessonic> it's my only laptop, and I've tried the linux partition
[01:11] <wildbat_semi_afk> edbian: he have a latest resume.doc need to dig up ~ he said it is 'resume.doc' and edited last month but find / -iname 'resume.doc' -mtime -60  2> /dev/null shows nothing. :>
[01:11] <dr_willis> nessonic,  im not sure tab completion can work for a remote box like that.. that WOULD be a neat trick for tab completion to do...
[01:11] <farty_pants> edbian: will it also convert?
[01:11] <KE1HA> I've got a MacPro, and I know the pain he's feeling, some things are great, other, man what a nightmare !
[01:12] <edbian> wildbat_semi_afk: Then that isn't the name :P
[01:12] <dr_willis> nessonic,  ssh to the mac and double check the  path is about all i can suggest. or send the file to  some tmp dir on the mac first. the move it.
[01:12] <edbian> wildbat_semi_afk: induz Where would you save it besides somewhere in your home folder?
[01:12] <induz> edbian, my resume as a .doc file buried somewhere in my system
[01:12] <treyh> nessonic: does sftp user@remoteip work?
[01:13] <edbian> farty_pants: yes
[01:13] <nessonic> I did that, it says connected
[01:13] <nessonic> with sftp>
[01:13] <treyh> okay exit
[01:13] <farty_pants> edbian: thanks ill check it out
[01:13] <treyh> cd to the dir with the file "macaddress:"
[01:13] <edbian> induz: Is it not .odf ?
[01:13] <induz> i made numerous folders in my home Folder
[01:13] <edbian> induz: ahhh :)
[01:14] <induz> edbian, it was .odf but I saved as .doc caz most of headhunters work on MS Office
[01:14] <treyh> nessonic: 1. cd to the directory with the file you want to transfer 2. sftp user@remoteip
[01:14] <nessonic> cd while in the ssh?
[01:14] <KE1HA> before
[01:14] <treyh> no
[01:14] <treyh> exit out of sftp
[01:14] <wildbat_semi_afk> edbian: lol if induz know we won't be searching :>  so you should have a copy in odf format then try find it
[01:15] <induz> anyway..thanks for your help...i feel like breaking the comp apart and taking out my .oc resume  from within
[01:15] <nessonic> alright back to sftp>
[01:15] <KE1HA> :-)_ tried that, it dont work induz
[01:15] <treyh> 1. exit out of sftp, 2. cd /path/of/file/you/want/to/transfer 3. sftp user@remoteip 4. get name-of-file
[01:15] <treyh> nessonic: 1. exit out of sftp, 2. cd /path/of/file/you/want/to/transfer 3. sftp user@remoteip 4. get name-of-file
[01:16] <nessonic> it has the file, but the "bar" says 0%
[01:16] <induz> I have a hardcopy of it so i will sit down and type it again
[01:16] <nessonic> and a new line with sftp>
[01:16] <induz> bye for now
[01:16] <induz> good night guys/gals
[01:16] <treyh> nessonic: type ls
[01:16] <wildbat_semi_afk> night , and good luck , induz
[01:17] <treyh> does the file show up?
[01:17] <nessonic> yes
[01:17] <KE1HA> it's there then
[01:17] <treyh> okay exit out of sftp and etc
[01:17] <treyh> ssh to the remote box and verify it's there
[01:17] <nessonic> in it's original directory; my home directory on the remote linux
[01:17] <induz> wildbat_semi_afk, hope i find the resume and the job too
[01:17] <treyh> nessonic: then do a dance you're done
[01:17] <KE1HA> LOL
[01:17] <wildbat_semi_afk> induz: i hope i find a job too XD! later ~    OT.
[01:17] <nessonic> it's only located on the remote box though, not my local laptop where I'm at
[01:18] <highphilosopher> EHLO
[01:18] <treyh> nessonic: okay so you want to download the file?
[01:18] <treyh> you want to transfer the file from linux-->mac
[01:18] <nessonic> yes, transferred to this mac
[01:18] <treyh> awesome
[01:18] <treyh> ssh to the linuxbox
[01:18] <treyh> and do the exact same steps
[01:18] <treyh> cd to the dir, sftp user@macmachine
[01:18] <treyh> get name-of-file
[01:18] <treyh> then dance
[01:19] <KE1HA> man scp would nahve been so much easier, I cn't figure out why sftp adn ssh work bu not scp
[01:19] <treyh> all good nessonic
[01:19] <nessonic> that's what I did last time, it gave the constant 0% and a file search on the mac shows no "macaddress" file
[01:19] <treyh> i think you got the process reversed
[01:20] <JoeR1> my desktop has stopped working on my main account in Xubuntu, and please don't recommend #xubuntu, I have been there and they have offered recommendations that did not work so now I turn to this room.
[01:21] <Monotoko> JoeR1..have you told them there recommendations haven't worked?
[01:21] <noneabove1182> does anyone have any ideaas as to why my ubuntu 11.04 SOMETIMES boots but most of the time goes to a flashing cursor and then just a black screen ?
[01:21] <nessonic> I ssh'd into the directory with the file, went into sftp, checked if the files there, typed get macaddy, then 0% exited, and still nothing (though it's still in the remote directory)
[01:21] <th0r> JoeR1: that description of the problem isn't going to get you very far
[01:21] <KE1HA> JoeR1: what did you do or were you doing when xface stopped workign correctly?
[01:21] <noneabove1182> hey again edbian :P
[01:22] <JoeR1> Monotoko, yes I have and he seems stumped
[01:22] <edbian> noneabove1182: hello friend!
[01:22] <noneabove1182> edbian how goes??
[01:22] <JoeR1> KE1HA, it happened between reboots
[01:22] <edbian> noneabove1182: great.  How are you?  Need Ubuntu help?
[01:23] <farty_pants> I have a question.. not to be biased to linux but why does it look like my linux OS has better graphics than my xp?
[01:23] <KE1HA> JoeR1: did you install anything, change anything modify anything, or it just stopped dowing what it was suppsoed to do.
[01:23] <JoeR1> I am currently logged in as root because the root account still works for whatever reason, and don't bother telling me how thats a bad idea
[01:23] <farty_pants> its on the same pc
[01:23] <noneabove1182> edbian good and bad, and yes :P
[01:23] <Monotoko> JoeR1, that isn't very nice now is it?
[01:23] <JoeR1> KE1HA, it just stopped, no recent changes
[01:23] <edbian> noneabove1182: :(  What's the issue?
[01:23] <KE1HA> JoeR1: Intersting .. haev you tried a quick reinstall of xfce4
[01:24] <spankbot> farty_pants what vs of LNX are you running?
[01:24] <JoeR1> Monotoko, what do you mean?
[01:24] <noneabove1182> edbian so the liveCD did in fact work haha, but now ive got a slight problem with the booting XD once in awhile it boots normally, like it did just now, but most of the time i get a flashing curser then a blank screen that leads to nothing :(
[01:24] <Monotoko> JoeR1, sorry, wrong room! Got about 50 IRC windows open >.>
[01:24] <JoeR1> KE1HA, no, I am trying to resolve this issue without any re-installs
[01:24] <treyh> farty_pants: what version of windows and linux you running
[01:24] <Monotoko> over various networks
[01:24] <th0r> JoeR1: what do you mean
[01:24] <edbian> noneabove1182: turn on nomodeset   do you know how to do that?  (strange btw that it happens sometimes)
[01:25] <th0r> JoeR1: just stopped....ran out of gas? brakes locked up?
[01:25] <KE1HA> JoeR1: well ok, could be workign on that for a while then.
[01:25] <ubuntunoo> hey guys guess what
[01:25] <noneabove1182> edbian yes i do, and ive done that, it does start, but the resolution is very wrong and its not in unity
[01:25] <abc_dallas> Hi everybody. I'm trying learn Ubuntu & figure out how to use AppArmor; do I have to learn Unix commands first?
[01:25] <edbian> noneabove1182: What graphics card do you have?
[01:25] <ubuntunoo> i finally got my ipod to mount
[01:25] <JoeR1> th0r - indeed, I logged in and thing that once worked had stopped functioning
[01:25] <farty_pants> what do you mean vs?
[01:25] <edbian> noneabove1182: This system is fully updated too right??
[01:25] <farty_pants> spankbot:
[01:25] <Monotoko> abc_dallas, bash commands would be a good start :P
[01:25] <[THC]AcidRain> 11.04 is leet
[01:25] <KE1HA> JoeR1: but it's rather odd that, with no changes, no updates, no apparent config changes, that somehtign static would sudden'y break,
[01:26] <spankbot> farty_pants if you are comparing a recent distro of LNX against XP.. which was released almost 10 years ago, that's why.  So in theory you are comparing a car built in 2011 against a car build in 2001.
[01:26] <th0r> JoeR1: I am not going to play 20 questions, but I am curious what 'thing' is
[01:26] <ubuntunoo> i found this app from cydia that lets me emulate msc mode on my ipod
[01:26] <farty_pants> spankbot: I know but the hardware is the same
[01:26] <ubuntunoo> and it works perfectly
[01:26] <farty_pants> same video card
[01:26] <JoeR1> KE1HA, I know this will take a long time, Linux ALWAYS takes a long time o do what I want
[01:26] <farty_pants> Im using mint
[01:26] <noneabove1182> edbian i have two actually, an intel one and a radeon one, most likely radeon is cause the problems >< and yea its updated, except the graphics driver cause that causes other problems, though if updating fixes the black screen and we can fix the problems it causes then i guess we could go that route XD
[01:26] <farty_pants> the graphics look much crisp
[01:26] <abc_dallas> Monotoko, is that Unix...i'm looking it up in the forums now...thank you
[01:26] <spankbot> farty_pants and?  your OS is not, just like I said, one is 10yrs older.
[01:26] <treyh> farty_pants: what version of windows
[01:26] <AaronMT> can someone ping me
[01:26] <nessonic> @farty_pants he means xp is designed from years ago, not for nowadays' much bigger lcd monitors, etc.
[01:27] <farty_pants> treyh: xp
[01:27] <edbian> noneabove1182: I have no idea if updating will fix the black screen problem.  Do you have radeon blacklisted on this install?
[01:27] <treyh> farty_pants: xp is from 2003, mint is from 2011
[01:27] <noneabove1182> edbian no i dont, i did that a few boots ago but it didnt seem to fix the black screen
[01:27] <treyh> farty_pants: xp was not designed to be "crisp" in the same way mint is
[01:27] <spankbot> farty_pants and?  compair your LNX distro against Win7, 7 is much better.  But I'm really digging Gnome3 though.
[01:28] <noneabove1182> edbian unless the permanent one would fix it
[01:28] <JoeR1> th0r - the contextual desktop menu is gone, windows do not appear on the panel, windows no longer have the min/max/exit controls, some windows are immobile, some windows cannot be interacted with after opening
[01:28] <treyh> farty_pants: 7 and mint are similiar but different on my hardware
[01:28] <ubuntunoo> by the way, if anyone is having problems mounting your ipod touch or your iphone, add this to your cydia sources and install usb drive: http://apt.dmytro.me
[01:28] <propman> treyh:  mint?   thought i was in the wrong channel there for a sec  lol
[01:28] <edbian> noneabove1182: make sure it's not blacklisted.  what does lsmod | grep radeon    say ?
[01:28] <ubuntunoo> i couldnt mount mine at all until i installed it
[01:29] <treyh> propman: it's the distro farts_in_my_pants is running
[01:29] <farty_pants> my other question is.. what would be the most compatible video card with linux
[01:29] <ubuntunoo> once i installed it it mounted like magic
[01:29] <farty_pants> nvidia or ati?
[01:29] <noneabove1182> edbian oh okay, im pretty sure its not but ill check just incase, and give me a sec
[01:29] <treyh> farty_pants: the most compatible video card with linux? VGA
[01:29] <farty_pants> I have a ati but it does not like linux too much
[01:29] <spankbot> treyh XP released Oct 25 2001
[01:29] <ubuntunoo> saved me 170$ from buying a new archos 43
[01:29] <edbian> noneabove1182: k
[01:29] <farty_pants> treyh: yes pci-e
[01:29] <treyh> spankbot: lol even more point, xp vs mint
[01:29] <EgyParadox> !vga
[01:30] <propman> treyh:  ohhhh ok......me run mint too. :-)
[01:30] <KE1HA> ubuntunoo: why does it have to be ona hacked system to work?
[01:30] <JoeR1> th0r and others, if you will excuse me another idea has been posed by #xubuntu and I have to log into the broken account to try it so I am going to do that and I shall report back if it is unsuccessful
[01:30] <treyh> propman: same :P
[01:30] <EgyParadox> !video
[01:30] <ubuntunoo> i still haven't figured out how music on it, but it mounts fine now
[01:30] <nessonic> I believe I've found the issue, I no longer get the could not resolve error...but every folder I try to get it in says permission denied, no matter if I'm sudo'd or not, or if I change the permissions on the mac side for that folder
[01:30] <treyh> farty_pants: linux shouldn't have that many problems running either, and if the current drivers don't suit your needs, try the bleeding edge ones
[01:30] <ubuntunoo> ke1ha: if you have 4.0.1 or 4.0.2 it mounts without jailbreak
[01:30] <spankbot> treyh I've not run mint, is that running Unity too?  Had too many problems with 11.4 & Unity, I've gone Fedora15 for now.
[01:31] <ubuntunoo> but i had to jailbreak mine
[01:31] <Zungo> hi
[01:31] <noneabove1182> edbian well there is an amd thing blacklisted but radeon is not, give me a sec to email myself the ouput so i dont have to type it haha
[01:31] <KE1HA> ubuntunoo: ok tnx,
[01:31] <ubuntunoo> and install that app
[01:31] <treyh> spankbot: Unity = no, gnome by default but i'm running gnome panels + cairo dock
[01:31] <ubuntunoo> mine didnt mount before at all before
[01:31] <treyh> spankbot: i'm a hardcore ubuntu fan, but mint is nicely packaged
[01:31] <ubuntunoo> now it mounts like a usb drive
[01:31] <edbian> noneabove1182: sure
[01:31] <ubuntunoo> the app emulates msc mode
[01:32] <KE1HA> ubuntunoo: I dont have an ipod .. but just wanted if for my notes.
[01:33] <ubuntunoo> btw, if anyone wants to know the cydia repo for USB Drive, here it is: http://apt.dmytro.me
[01:33] <Zungo> hey, i just got some troubles package get failed, log: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/663859/ why?
[01:33] <noneabove1182> edbian radeon                982152  0; ttm                    76664  1 radeon; drm_kms_helper         42136  2 i915,radeon; drm                   227495  6 i915,radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper; i2c_algo_bit           13400  2 i915,radeon
[01:33] <noneabove1182> edbian ; = new line
[01:34] <edbian> noneabove1182: mmmm, that means radeon is running.  I have to go, here is some helpful reading: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen
[01:34] <Zungo> hello?
[01:34] <edbian> noneabove1182: Good luck! :)
[01:34] <edbian> Zungo: hello
[01:34] <edbian> goodbye!
[01:34] <noneabove1182> edbian thanks haha
[01:34] <ubuntunoo> my ipod never mounted when i plugged my iTouch in my Ubuntu box, but now that have the msc emulator, it works awesomely
[01:34] <treyh> Zungo: relax dude takes time to open pastebin
[01:34] <treyh> Zungo: looks like dead links
[01:35] <Zungo> :O
[01:35] <treyh> Zungo: sudo apt-get update and try again
[01:35] <Zungo> why 403?
[01:35] <spankbot> treyh I'm hardcore what works.  Windows 7 for (windows development, C#, .NET SQL), Fedora15 for (java development, Android dev), VMWare for all my Server virtualization, so I'm not tied to one OS... but I run LNX as my host and VM all of my Windows, LNX Server and Utilities
[01:35] <Zungo> it´s forbidden not dead link
[01:35] <Zungo> but, why?
[01:35] <abc_dallas> i searched for "bash commands" in ubuntuforums but not finding anything; can anyone help me w/ a link on that?
[01:35] <treyh> Zungo: no way to know, but not your fault, it's theirs
[01:35] <treyh> Zungo: http://www.checkupdown.com/status/E403.html
[01:36] <wildbat_semi_afk> !anyone | abc_dallas
[01:36] <ubuntunoo> edbian: don't know if you heard already, but i finally got my Ipod touch 2g to mount in Ubuntu, i installed this app from Cydia called USB Drive, and now it mounts like it's supposed to
[01:36] <KE1HA> spankbot: what's you base OS?
[01:36] <th0r> abc_dallas: check the linux documentation project tldp.org
[01:36] <Zungo> ah ok
[01:36]  * Zungo asked in #ubuntu-ar.
[01:37] <zruty> What is the smoothest way to convert a bunch of FLAC to MP3?
[01:37] <jrib> zruty: probably ffmpeg
[01:37] <treyh> spankbot: same here dude, win7 for hyper-v management, run all of my windows box as vm's on my laptop, we use hyper-v, vmware, and xen for virtualization
[01:37] <Zungo> so, what i can do with it?
[01:37] <dkog> Hi - does iptables try to load config from a specific file anywhere (like in redhat's /etc/sysconfig/iptables) ?
[01:37] <KE1HA> zruty: with a bash script, for in in /some-dir do; convert all these puppies to big dogs; done
[01:38] <abc_dallas> Ubottu, what do you mean by my next question (aka 'the real one')?
[01:38] <treyh> Zungo: you can try a sudo apt-get update , then try the package again. if it still fails you can wait a day or two to see if it comes back online
[01:38] <abc_dallas> thanx Thor i will
[01:38] <treyh> Zungo: or try "403 error package-name" in google
[01:39] <Zungo> treyh: wtf, 403 error: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/663859/ that´s forbidden :(, so what i can do? ufff
[01:39] <lnxn3rd> hey
[01:39] <lnxn3rd> anybody here?
[01:39] <spankbot> KE1HA For my workstation (Fedora15) x64 / for my server vSphere (ESX 4.1) x64 / MobilePhone Android 2.2
[01:39] <abc_dallas> hi there
[01:39] <ubuntunoo> yea
[01:39] <lnxn3rd> hey
[01:39] <treyh> Zungo: i can't say this any more clear, you can update your repo's to make sure they're trying the correct packages, you can wait it out, or google for an alternative location
[01:39] <lnxn3rd> I'm a java developer ..
[01:39] <lnxn3rd> 15 years old ..
[01:39] <KE1HA> spankbot: So you run Virtualbox on Fed-15?
[01:39] <jrib> !enter | lnxn3rd
[01:40] <jrib> !cli | abc_dallas
[01:40] <lnxn3rd> hey all ..
[01:40] <lnxn3rd> anybody there?
[01:40] <lnxn3rd> 2 chat with me
[01:40] <treyh> lnxn3rd: no we're all bots
[01:40] <jrib> lnxn3rd: this channel is for support.  If you want to chat, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:40] <spankbot> treyh now you're talking.. what's the big diff in ESX and Hyper-V?  Did you know that Hyper-V was build using the original VMware Kernel?  That's why Microsoft supprts VMWare in licensing.
[01:40] <treyh> lnxn3rd: quit spamming, ask question or answer them
[01:41] <ubuntunoo> im not a bot
[01:41] <zruty> jrib: KE1HA: ffmpeg - I will look into it. Thanks!
[01:41] <Monotoko> I'm not a bot, I'm a real boy!
[01:41] <abc_dallas> thanx Ubottu. I need to learn some commands before I start messing with the terminal tho but i am following that link now thank you
[01:41] <ubuntunoo> xD
[01:41] <lnxn3rd> aha support .. , oh thank you ..
[01:41] <spankbot> KE1HA Oh hell no, VMware Workstation... I have to be able to create Clones and share them with my team.
[01:41] <ubuntunoo> monotoko: xD
[01:41] <treyh> spankbot: nothing too different, normal stuff linux vs windows, but hyper-v has micro kernels :)
[01:41] <Zungo> lnxn3rd: go #ubuntu-offtopic then
[01:41] <JoeR1> well no such luck with the suggestions from #xubuntu, any ideas over here?
[01:42] <bikcmp> hi all- how do you make sendmail use a specific IP address to send mail out?
[01:42] <jrib> JoeR1: most of us have no clue what your issue is
[01:42] <Zungo> JoeR1: ask, maybe we can help you
[01:42] <[THC]AcidRain> serious issue
[01:42] <[THC]AcidRain> my comp is turning off by itself
[01:42] <lnxn3rd> Zungo:how can i run .run files , please?
[01:42] <[THC]AcidRain> im looking at the system monitor. nothing is out of the ordinary
[01:42] <Zungo> wtf,
[01:42] <treyh> spankbot: microkernels with hyper-v and 2008r2 is amazing
[01:42] <[THC]AcidRain> anyone know what would cause my system to do that?
[01:42] <stealz> why is it that there is no proper manual/information and I have to pick every bit of stuff I want to do together by reading forums throughout all the internet just to find out that the info is outdated... is there no working wiki or something?
[01:42] <noneabove1182> hey guys, anyone know how to fix a problem of ubuntu no longer running in unity after updating graphics driver??
[01:42] <Zungo> i don´t know
[01:42] <JoeR1>  the contextual desktop menu is gone, windows do not appear on the panel, windows no longer have the min/max/exit controls, some windows are immobile, some windows cannot be interacted with after opening
[01:42] <jrib> stealz: I'm not sure what your question is
[01:42] <Zungo> stealz: there´s a wkik
[01:43] <lnxn3rd> Anybody does!?
[01:43] <ObrienDave> AcidRain: umm... low battery???
[01:43] <Zungo> wiki*
[01:43] <globe> boa noite
[01:43] <KE1HA> spankbot: Yeah, I run loads of VM boxes, I;m on 10.04 LTS on my VM Box as the base OS then have loads of VM's doign this or that, or testing things.
[01:43] <dkog> Somebody please link me to info on how iptables starts up?  All info I find seems outdated.
[01:43] <[THC]AcidRain> JoeR1, what you doing?
[01:43] <lnxn3rd> #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:43] <jrib> dkog: why?  What do you want to accomplish?
[01:43] <[THC]AcidRain> ObrienDave, no, its hooked to the wall
[01:43] <[THC]AcidRain> this is a desktop
[01:43] <[THC]AcidRain> it has happened 2 times when im converting music
[01:43] <stealz> jrib: right now its about getting alsa to reroute to pulse, I got to there after trying 4 different ways to get wine to work with sound, all of which went to completely different directions
[01:43] <dkog> jrib: I want to a) configure my firewall, and b) better understand how ubuntu networking works (i am coming from redhat)
[01:43] <[THC]AcidRain> im about to try again to see if it is consistent
[01:44] <JoeR1> [THC]AcidRain, I assume you mean to imply that some action of mine has caused this result?
[01:44] <abc_dallas> noneabove, I had ssame problem w/ Unity on my 32 bit computer. I bought a new computer
[01:44] <jrib> !iptables | dkog
[01:44] <stealz> Zungo, the search funtion on that wiki isnt working properly for me if you refer to ubuntuwiki
[01:44] <treyh> lnxn3rd: you have to make the .run executable and then do ./name-of-file.run
[01:44] <spankbot> treyh I'm very interested if you have any knowledge in SQL Server performance gains between ESX or H-V, it seems like the whole SAN/NAS datastore drive and ESX host has become the norm for DB server builds, but they run like shit over time in ESX.. or corrupt the DB.  IMO.. only been running ESX + SQL for 3yrs and that's what I've seen.
[01:44] <[THC]AcidRain> JoeR1, no. i mean what system are you talking about
[01:44] <[THC]AcidRain> lol
[01:44] <[THC]AcidRain> i know your not good enough to hax me ;)
[01:44] <dkog> jrib: my install (11) doesn't have ufw.  Should I 'apt-get' it or something?
[01:44] <ubuntunoo> abc_dallas: i have problems with unity as well
[01:44] <jrib> dkog: what version of ubuntu is this exactly?
[01:45] <KE1HA> dkog: ufw is what most folks need but if ya really want iptable info we can get it too ya: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UncomplicatedFirewall
[01:45] <ubuntunoo> abc_dallas: just goto the login screen and select ubuntu classic (no effects) or ubuntu classic
[01:45] <JoeR1> Xubuntu 11.04 - and I have been consulting the #xubuntu room as well, to no avail I might add
[01:45] <abc_dallas> I couldn't get it to work on my 32 bit computer but 11.04 is perfect on my 64 bit no problems at all
[01:45] <treyh> spankbot: i'm not a sql guy, but i remember over eharing a conversation about esx vs sql. are the vm's overloaded?
[01:45] <dkog> jrib: how can I tell which version exactly?
[01:45] <jrib> dkog: how did you install?
[01:45] <ObrienDave> abc_dallas: did you install 32 bit version???
[01:46] <dkog> jrib:  rackspace cloud server
[01:46] <[THC]AcidRain> JoeR1, i agree with everything you say. new ubuntu interface sucks. switch to classic and find a way to remove all traces of new ubuntu
[01:46] <[THC]AcidRain> i think my cores are overheating
[01:46] <dkog> jrib: is there a file in the system that contains the actual version number?  eg in redhat, it's /etc/redhat-release (or something like that)
[01:46] <abc_dallas> ObrienDave, I did install it but it said my hardware wasn't capable of running UNity
[01:46] <abc_dallas> i got caught using craked win 7 ultimate
[01:46] <jrib> dkog: you should ask them what they installed because I believe ufw is pulled in by ubuntu-standard
[01:46] <dkog> jrib: the portal I created the server in says 11.04
[01:47] <treyh> dkog: cat /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:47] <ObrienDave> abc_dallas: boot into classic. get rid of that unity POS
[01:47] <spankbot> KE1HA If I can get Gnome3 to run stable on 10.04 I'm back to Ubuntu, I'f not I'm torn at the moment.  The Ubuntu community, this IRC alone blows away any distro support community.  PPL are so cool here, they even help me out on my Fedora issues.
[01:47] <flodine> heheheh
[01:47] <noneabove1182> has anyone else encountered or heard of a problem where after updating the video graphics driver unity no longer runs on 11.04? using radeon card (yes ive heard of its issues)
[01:47] <abc_dallas> i used it for all of 5 mins before switched to Ubuntu. I want to put Ubuntu on all my cpus and be able to use it
[01:47] <[THC]AcidRain> both cores are maxing out at 100% usage
[01:47] <aeon-ltd> [THC]AcidRain: heh, overheating? unless you OC'd ,your thermal paste is almost non-existant or your fan failed/clogged/slowed down; you'll be fine
[01:47] <treyh> noneabove1182: say with 10.10 until 11.10 comes out
[01:48] <[THC]AcidRain> aeon-ltd, my comp is very clean
[01:48] <aeon-ltd> [THC]AcidRain: recent?
[01:48] <noneabove1182> treyh as much as id like to, i just spent SO long getting this to work.. XD
[01:48] <[THC]AcidRain> aeon-ltd, but did you see my message that both cores are maxing out?
[01:48] <[THC]AcidRain> nah they are maxing out right now
[01:48] <KE1HA> spankbot: Yeah, lot really good support people here in Ubuntu, one of it's best atributes I think. e.g. Gnome3, I've looked at it, but to be honest, havn't had time to mess around with ti much.
[01:48] <[THC]AcidRain> cause im converting music
[01:48] <aeon-ltd> [THC]AcidRain: yes but that's normal
[01:48] <[THC]AcidRain> only 34 songs
[01:48] <[THC]AcidRain> so that wouldnt cause it to do that?
[01:48] <[THC]AcidRain> i took the front plate off and i have a house fan on it
[01:48] <abc_dallas> there is so much cool stuff in Ubuntu I haven't had time to mess w/ a lot of stuff yet
[01:49] <[THC]AcidRain> aeon-ltd, what other reasons would my comp just shutdown? perhaps a power surge?
[01:49] <[THC]AcidRain> i do have ALOT of stuff hooked off like 3 power surges into 1 outlet
[01:49] <[THC]AcidRain> :)
[01:49] <treyh> noneabove1182: you can look to see if there are cutting edge drivers for your card that might help
[01:49] <dkog> KE1HA: are there docs on how/when iptables is started?  i don't see it in the init files i'm looking at, but i'm probably looking in the wrong place.
[01:49] <aeon-ltd> [THC]AcidRain: shutdown or did it crash first?
[01:49] <galamar> hey can anyone tell me how to mount my memcard in a pre-X livecd? so I can save some log files to it.
[01:49] <[THC]AcidRain> its just a crash
[01:49] <kmwhite> I've been trying to get Encrypted LVM up-and-going using the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1262546 , but it appears that the newer versions of ubuntu (the guide is from 2009) are lacking a /dev/.udev/db directory in initrd . Any idea how to create it, or what it was replaced with?
[01:49] <[THC]AcidRain> it turns off instantly
[01:49] <[THC]AcidRain> no warning
[01:50] <kmwhite> It's cited in Part II of the link.
[01:50] <treyh> [THC]AcidRain: how big of a power supply do you have? how many drives and etc. hooked up?
[01:50] <jrib> dkog: in any case, ubottu provided info for both ufw and iptables
[01:50] <[THC]AcidRain> treyh, 3 drives
[01:50] <noneabove1182> treyh its weird, because without the updated driver i get the black screen problem 9 boots out of 10, but unity works... then with new driver, no black screen but no unity ><
[01:50] <[THC]AcidRain> power supply is 550watt
[01:50] <[THC]AcidRain> is that enough?
[01:50] <KE1HA> dkog: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo    ... beyond that I dont go :-)
[01:50] <treyh> noneabove1182: oh thats simply, your video card isn't beefy enough to run unity, you're probably stuck with gnome3
[01:50] <[THC]AcidRain> 2 external drives. 1 internal
[01:50] <aeon-ltd> [THC]AcidRain: should be, unless you're rocking sli setups
[01:51] <[THC]AcidRain> this is very odd
[01:51] <[THC]AcidRain> it just happened 2 times back to back
[01:51] <treyh> [THC]AcidRain: disconnect as many things as possible and see how it runs
[01:51] <[THC]AcidRain> and it happened once about 1 week ago
[01:51] <[THC]AcidRain> well im on it now... it seems to be running fine
[01:51] <[THC]AcidRain> cores went back down to about 40% each
[01:51] <noneabove1182> treyh i have AMD Radeon HD 6XXXm or something, high end  :S
[01:51] <abc_dallas> i'm going to study terminal commands and linux documentation. Thanx ya'll   l8r
[01:52] <ObrienDave> AcidRain: crashed twice and rebooted that fast???
[01:52] <noneabove1182> treyh and it runs without the update which is what confuses me
[01:52] <[THC]AcidRain> ObrienDave, yeah... lol
[01:52] <[THC]AcidRain> i didnt smell anything bad.
[01:52] <galamar> I know how to mount it, I am just having trouble with the correct path to the memcard.
[01:52] <[THC]AcidRain> and like i said... it seems to be doing fine. there are no signs at all that something is wrong
[01:52] <treyh> noneabove1182: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers
[01:52] <globe> exit
[01:53] <ObrienDave> AcidRain: you sure it's the 'puter and not video card?
[01:53] <treyh> noneabove1182: it's all about the driver, if the default one isn't working for you, try a newer one, https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers
[01:53] <noneabove1182> treyh oh okay sure, ill give it a look, thanks!
[01:53] <DigDug> Anyone have a reccomendat
[01:53] <treyh> [THC]AcidRain: random power offs can be anything from heat, not enough power, grounding, 1 piece of bad hardware, and etc.
[01:53] <treyh> noneabove1182: glad to help :P
[01:54] <noneabove1182> treyh real quick is this all radeon or general?
[01:54] <treyh> noneabove1182: general i believe let me check
[01:54] <[THC]AcidRain> treyh, good lord. i have so much stuff
[01:55] <treyh> noneabove1182: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/radeon
[01:55] <ObrienDave> DigDug: finish the question
[01:55] <KE1HA> Yeah I was think'en the same thing, remomendation fer what?
[01:55] <treyh> [THC]AcidRain: exactly, never know if 1 piece of that "stuff" is the culrpit. unplug everything but the barebones :)
[01:55] <noneabove1182> treyh thanks :)
[01:56] <treyh> noneabove1182: have fun with the drivers :P
[01:56] <DigDug> anyone have a good recommendation for a great USB flash-friendly distro? I am an avid Ubuntu user, and thought to ask you all.
[01:56] <DigDug> ObrienDave, sorry 'bout that.
[01:56] <kmwhite> I've been trying to get Encrypted LVM up-and-going using the guide at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1262546 , but it appears that the newer versions of ubuntu (the guide is from 2009) are lacking a /dev/.udev/db directory in initrd . Any idea how to create it, or what it was replaced with?
[01:56] <Tobi90> hello
[01:57] <treyh> kmwhite: find an updated guide
[01:57] <Tobi90> chicas donde andan
[01:57] <ObrienDave> DigDug: any ubuntu liveCD distro woorks pretty good. been trying them all for a month or so
[01:57] <DigDug> For USB? Aren't there more frugal distros out there?
[01:58] <kmwhite> Thanks, treyh . I'll take that under consideration.
[01:58] <KE1HA> DigDug: all linux distros had an issue fro time to time, but I've been with Ubuntu since the 5.x.x days, and it's pretty hard to beat the optons available with Ubuntu.
[01:58] <ObrienDave> DigDug: you can try the alternate install. seem to be on the slim side
[01:58] <treyh> kmwhite: just found 2 in 15 seconds
[01:58] <Tobi90> alguna chica
[01:58] <Blazento> i upgraded ubuntu, now my top menu is gone... how do i get to system/applications
[01:59] <DigDug> KE1HA: That's true. Ubuntu is just so polished. I wish there was a really USB-focused distro of it.
[01:59] <treyh> Blazento: add the menu to the bottom panel
[01:59] <ObrienDave> DigDug: I'm running regular ubuntu on a 16GB stick right now.
[01:59] <linuxuz3r> sup guys
[01:59] <KE1HA> Lubuntu / Xubuntu / Edubuntu all nice diubuntu for low resource machines like my little stro's, I like teh Edubut for allot of cool apps we dont normally think about, and Lubuntu or Xubuntu for my low resource machines like my Dell D400.
[02:00] <noneabove1182> treyh hey one more question about the driver stuff, for the manual add (cause the auto add didnt quite work..) where is says your ubuntu version here, do i put natty or 11.04?
[02:00] <DigDug> ObrienDave: Oh, nice. I tried Slitaz, and while its really light (whole thing loads into RAM!), it didn't have the drivers for my my WiFi.
[02:00] <treyh> noneabove1182: read the instructions over again, it will tell you what to put
[02:00] <KE1HA> Well so much for that statement, I dont know how parts of old statments are getting mixed in with new ones, sri abt that folks, Konversion seems to have a cache issue I think.
[02:01] <Dezine> I'm trying to run a server behind a router, I imagine I need to make a static ip. How do I do that? I tried this: http://goo.gl/lZWgu and it didn't work
[02:01] <noneabove1182> treyh well it has maverick and lucid, just wanna make sure 11.04 is natty
[02:01] <diamonds> howdy friends
[02:01] <|Slacker|> hey Diamondcite
[02:01] <|Slacker|> ooops
[02:01] <|Slacker|> Diamondcite:
[02:01] <|Slacker|> grrrr
[02:01] <FloodBot1> |Slacker|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:01] <|Slacker|> Diamonds
[02:01] <diamonds> so you're not going to believe this, but I'm having issues with my wireless
[02:01] <DigDug> Total aside: I have a $75 promo gift card for Dell. Any ideas on what to spend it on?
[02:01] <ObrienDave> noneabove1182: if it says 11.04 it's natty
[02:01] <diamonds> and |Slacker| is having issues with tab completion!!
[02:01] <diamonds> :p
[02:01] <|Slacker|> DigDug: a backpakc?
[02:02] <KE1HA> DigDug: When you say USB distro, do you mean a distro to run from a USB devise or support for USB devices in general?
[02:02] <diamonds> DigDug: some RAM
[02:02] <DigDug> A backpack? I have a nice laptop bag
[02:02] <diamonds> anywho...
[02:02] <noneabove1182> ObeinDave kk thanks just like playing it safe
[02:02] <DigDug> KE1HA: To run from USB Drive.
[02:02] <diamonds> I'm on... what's the new UI called
[02:02] <Gruffy> Yep.
[02:02] <ObrienDave> noneabove1182: np
[02:02] <diamonds> eternity?
[02:02] <diamonds> anyway I'm on the new UI
[02:02] <|Slacker|> unity
[02:03] <coz_> Unity
[02:03] <DigDug> diamonds: DDR2 is so expensive. I'd need 4GB modules for (2x4GB)
[02:03] <KE1HA> DigDug: Got it, I've rolled a couple of my own, just learing how things work in build releases and such. It's really not that hard actually.
[02:03] <Gruffy> new UI for what? 11.04?
[02:03] <diamonds> but I *don't have ANY networking icon*
[02:03] <|Slacker|> DigDug: some cordless mouse?
[02:03] <diamonds> in my top right icon area
[02:03] <diamonds> which is odd
[02:03] <EgyParadox> Dezine:NetworkManager->choose connection->edit ->IP v4 settings-> method-> manual
[02:03] <treyh> noneabove1182: follow the default link and it should all be fine https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa
[02:03] <diamonds> in any event I wouldn't care if wireless were working
[02:03] <diamonds> so I tried rfkill unblock all
[02:03] <ObrienDave> DigDug: 2x4GB about $125
[02:04] <DigDug> Slacker: all great ideas! I have a nice wireless mouse from Logitech already.
[02:04] <KE1HA> DigDug: For USB, small & lighweight is key, and strip down the unwanted aps. It's all about intended use there I suppose.
[02:04] <Dezine> EgyParadox, I tried that, any help on what settings I should use?
[02:04] <DigDug> ObrienDave: DDR2 for laptop?
[02:04] <DigDug> Sorry, should have mentioned laptop
[02:04] <ObrienDave> DigDug: yep
[02:04] <DigDug> Really? Link?
[02:04] <ObrienDave> www.frys.com
[02:05] <diamonds> here's my iwconfig http://pastie.org/pastes/2358876/text
[02:05] <KE1HA> Fry or Newegg
[02:05] <DigDug> ObrienDave: But I have a Dell Promo Gift Card. :(
[02:05] <ObrienDave> or www.outpost.com
[02:05] <diamonds> rfkill unblock all I have ALL unblocked
[02:05] <|Slacker|> DigDug: headphones or speakers? mp3 players? dock stations?
[02:05] <diamonds> doing sudo lshw -C network now....
[02:05] <ObrienDave> DigDug: yep for laptop
[02:05] <DigDug> Question: Does 8GB really change things, if I have 4GB already? I never notice memory issues.
[02:05] <diamonds> ok so I get *-network DISABLED
[02:05] <diamonds> what means this
[02:06] <KE1HA> DigDug: Not much unless you keep hitting the wall at 4GB
[02:06] <EgyParadox> Dezine: ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
[02:06] <diamonds> http://pastie.org/pastes/2358881/text
[02:06] <diamonds> ^sudo lshw -C network
[02:06] <DigDug> KE1HA: That's what I thought. That's why I'm so stuck! There's really nothing to get at Dell that I don't have. I have a 2TB Raid backup, nice headphones, nice keyboard and wireless mouse, new router, enough RAM.
[02:07] <EgyParadox> Dezine: you can edit /etc/network/interfaces as well
[02:07] <ObrienDave> DigDug: yes and no. you won't notice a performance issue unless your running apps that swap memory a lot.
[02:07] <diamonds> EgyParadox: I'll try that as well!
[02:07] <DigDug> Of course I want a new computer, but a $75 GC can't justify that ;0
[02:07] <diamonds> That seemed to help last time
[02:07] <diamonds> what do I need to execute to see the network manager icon?
[02:07] <KE1HA> DigDug: and if your runnig from RAM, super fast timmings and speed / overclocks are not going to benoticed by the operator, maybe in some benchmark app or app that uses super fast sppeds, yes, but nto to the user.
[02:07] <|Slacker|> DigDug: at least it's a start :p
[02:07] <EgyParadox> Dezine: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[02:07] <DigDug> ObrienDave: I Was thinking that with 8GB I could run the whole OS in RAM (i.e. no swap)
[02:07] <zykotick9> diamonds, nm-applet i think
[02:08] <diamonds> zykotick9: will try, ty
[02:08] <diamonds> says an instance is already running
[02:08] <ObrienDave> DigDug: don't know enough about linux to tell you about that one
[02:08] <realubot> What is Mod1, Mod2, Mod3 and Mod4 kays in Ubuntu?
[02:08] <diamonds> what's the "desktop" shortcut on unity?
[02:08] <ObrienDave> DigDug: seems right though
[02:09] <diamonds> show desktop (compiz)?
[02:09] <DigDug> ObrienDave: No worries, I appreciate the help. I remember reading about the "Is the Swap Necessary?" issue. People argue it back and forth.
[02:09] <KE1HA> DigDug: You dont need 8GB f Ram to run the OS, you strip out all the junk you dont need.
[02:09] <noneabove1182> treyh after the sudo apt-get update i get a couple of error messages
[02:09] <DigDug> KE1HA: How do I go about learning how to strip out the junk I don't need?
[02:09] <realubot> Mod4 is SuperKey I think but which is Alt, Ctrl and so on?
[02:09] <diamonds> https://imgur.com/INkTv < note: No networking icon
[02:10] <zykotick9> swap is a good thing, seldom used stuff can be moved to swap so physical memory can be used for "real" stuff
[02:10] <KE1HA> DigDug: You lean about building your own Ubuntu Distro, start with somethign like Lubuntu / Xubuntu as the Base Distro for OEM, then  remove all the stuff ya dont want a re-roll it.
[02:10] <DigDug> For someone so involved with computers, I don't really do anything fancy with them. Just surf the web, really. :). No gaming,
[02:10] <diamonds> where is the gd network manager applet??
[02:10] <noneabove1182> treyh would you like me to paste them in here?
[02:10] <DrPenguin> hey there. I am having a problem with VMWAre Server 2.x.. I just instaleld it on my ubuntu box but I cant use it. On chrome there is no console plugin, and for some reason firefox just refuses to load the admin console
[02:10] <EgyParadox> diamonds: gd?
[02:10] <treyh> noneabove1182: let me guess, key errors?
[02:10] <diamonds> EgyParadox: god damned
[02:11] <ObrienDave> DigDug: same argument over windows vs. linux. personal preference really. you will ALWAYS have naysayers on both sides of the fence
[02:11] <DigDug> KE1HA: Of the re-rolls you've done, what do you think was the sweetspot?
[02:11] <diamonds> :D
[02:11] <EgyParadox> !language
[02:11] <noneabove1182> treyh, no failure to fetch, 404 not found
[02:11] <diamonds> EgyParadox: :( entrapment!
[02:11] <EgyParadox> diamonds: its on the upper right of the screen
[02:11] <jhonnyboy> .
[02:11] <KE1HA> DigDug: For me, the sweep spot was getting one to boot after I did it :-)
[02:11] <diamonds> https://imgur.com/INkTv < EgyParadox
[02:11] <treyh> noneabove1182: what did you type to add the repo? or to set it up?
[02:11] <realubot> 04:08 < realubot> What is Mod1, Mod2, Mod3 and Mod4 kays in Ubuntu?
[02:11] <KE1HA> DigDug: But anywhere equal to or less that he total available RAM is a good target.
[02:12] <zruty> KE1HA: jrib: I found a reasonable option, but with this for - do - done, how can I make sure that the filename of the FLAC will also be the filename of the MP3?
[02:12] <realubot> What keys are Mod keys? Anyone?
[02:12] <DigDug> KE1HA: Haha! See, that's what I don't have to deal with. I don't have the time to trial and error this.
[02:12] <KE1HA> DigDug: The you have 1/4 for Swap, 1/4 for RAM and use the USB as your /home to store changes.
[02:12] <DigDug> I was hoping that there would be some projects out there that would have different purposed forks of Ubuntu (or whatever).
[02:12] <zykotick9> diamonds, it will probably disconnect you from the net, but you could try "killall nm-applet && nm-applet" to try restarting it
[02:12] <DigDug> Fat momma install, then slim install, then micro install.
[02:12] <EgyParadox> diamonds: try running this in terminal:  nm-applet --sm-disable
[02:12] <diamonds> EgyParadox: see also http://pastie.org/pastes/2358881/text
[02:13] <DigDug> SLitaz is 30mb!
[02:13] <diamonds> zykotick9: ok, i'll try EgyParadox's thing first
[02:13] <zruty> KE1HA: jrib: I found a reasonable option, but with this for - do - done, how can I make sure that the filename of the FLAC will also be the filename of the MP3?
[02:13] <DigDug> It was surprising to see such a lightning boot-up and OS
[02:13] <treyh> DigDug: you could use the ubuntu-mini installer, then just install only the things you8 need and want. those downloads are only about 25min
[02:13] <treyh> DigDug: *25mb
[02:13] <noneabove1182> treyh i did the : deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/radeon/ubuntu natty main  deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/radeon/ubuntu natty main, and the sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 8844C542, then did sudo apt-get update, then errors
[02:13] <KE1HA> zruty: Do a small sample test on jsut a few files, check the results first and make a backup of the original files.
[02:13] <diamonds> there's no man page for nm-applet...
[02:13] <treyh> noneabove1182: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa , sudo apt-get update , sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is the correct way
[02:13] <diamonds> EgyParadox: what does that switch do?
[02:13] <EgyParadox> just run it without man
[02:13] <treyh> noneabove1182: correction, it's the easier way
[02:14] <DigDug> treyh: That's a great idea! What is the ubuntu-mini installer intended for?
[02:14] <diamonds> EgyParadox: instance already running
[02:14] <treyh> DigDug: minimal installs :) or for when your cdrom is bad but you have to use it to install
[02:14] <zykotick9> DigDug, mini is basically Debian's net-install with Ubuntu repos
[02:14] <DigDug> Is the mini installer GUI?
[02:14] <noneabove1182> treyh yea i did that the first time and got the same error on the update part
[02:14] <diamonds> ok zykotick9, I'll try yours :)
[02:14] <diamonds> ttfn
[02:14] <DigDug> or is it some command-line yuck?
[02:15] <treyh> DigDug: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[02:15] <diamonds> zykotick9: hot diggity damn!
[02:15] <KE1HA> DigDug: The other option is SSD's, there super fast and they are read/write
[02:15] <coz_> DigDug,  well it is a text install however,, it is very easy to work with and only 19 megs
[02:15] <treyh> noneabove1182: check PM
[02:15] <diamonds> I got an icon :)
[02:15] <diamonds> but my terminal is tied up :/
[02:15] <noneabove1182> treyh sorry to say this, but how??
[02:15] <DigDug> coz_: Oh, like the alternate CD. That I can handle, when I setup encrypted LVMs.
[02:15] <diamonds> do I have to ^c out of this nm-applet command?
[02:16] <treyh> noneabove1182: depends on your chat client, look on the top, bottom, or side for another tab with "treyh" on it
[02:16] <coz_> DigDug,     exactly like the alternate :)
[02:16] <zykotick9> diamonds, you could re-run from alt+f2
[02:16] <KE1HA> DigDug: Smallest Non-Ubuntu distro I've used is DSL and Puppy, of the two, DSL is pretty nice.
[02:16] <noneabove1182> treyh ohhhh personal message... gotcha XD
[02:16] <DigDug> KE1HA: DSL is polished?
[02:16] <diamonds> zykotick9: yeah I can just open a new PS tab :)
[02:16] <KE1HA> Overall I'd still prefer Ubuntu, rolled to suit my needs over DSL
[02:16] <KE1HA> DigDug: Yes, DSL very polished.
[02:16] <coz_> DigDug,  the big difference is  not only are the files downloaded and installed,, you will get a list of availabe things to install,,  I generally only choose Ubuntu-desktop,, however,,   the arrows  scroll the list and t he "Space"  bar ticks the box not Enter :)
[02:16] <DigDug> I'd ideally like to have the polish that comes with Ubuntu, so I think I am going to try the mini installer.
[02:17] <diamonds> ok so it still doesn't "see" networks
[02:17] <juarea> I have disk spaced used up and was wondering if there is a way to see all files that are big in size?
[02:17] <diamonds> I'm checking lshw..
[02:17] <juarea> I cannot burn a movie for this reason
[02:17] <juarea> it said I need 10GB of space at least
[02:17] <Kumquat> How would one use a laptop running Ubuntu to bridge a connection between a wireless network and a desktop?
[02:17] <KE1HA> DigDug: Check out an applkicaiton for Ubuntu call Reconstructor, you'd be suprised what you could come up with.
[02:18] <EgyParadox> diamonds: rightclick on the upper panel ->add to panel-> indication applet complete
[02:18] <diamonds> hrm... I get "device not managed" for wireless
[02:18] <DigDug> KE1HA: Thanks for the tip!
[02:18] <diamonds> rightclick does nothing :(
[02:18] <zykotick9> juarea, you might want to start by checking how much your apt cache is using "du -sh /var/cache/apt" these files aren't required really
[02:18] <diamonds> but I have the up/down Icon now
[02:18] <diamonds> now I just need the wifi icon...
[02:19] <EgyParadox> right click on free space in the panel
[02:19] <juarea> zykotick9: 168M	/var/cache/apt
[02:19] <zykotick9> diamonds, "device not managed" will appear if something is specified in /etc/network/interfaces for the wireless
[02:19] <zykotick9> juarea, that's not very big
[02:19] <juarea> I know
[02:19] <diamonds> zykotick9: someone told me to add a couple lines there
[02:19] <DigDug> Question: How would I achieve the minimal setup on my USB key? Would I run the minimal installer from the key itself?
[02:19] <juarea> I dont know whats clogging it
[02:20] <juarea> zykotick9: I cannot figure out where the siwe is
[02:20] <zykotick9> diamonds, if you added anything for your wireless that would explain the "not managed"
[02:20] <diamonds> specifically:
[02:20] <juarea> size
[02:20] <diamonds> auto wlan0\
[02:20] <diamonds> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[02:20] <diamonds> s/\\//
[02:20] <diamonds> sorry, remove that slash I mean to say
[02:21] <diamonds> zykotick9: so can I start it from iwconfig or what?
[02:21] <zykotick9> juarea, "du -sh * 2>/dev/null"
[02:21] <diamonds> remove it from /interfaces then restart nm-applet?
[02:21] <zykotick9> diamonds, as long as you have that in interfaces you can't use nm-applet
[02:21] <juarea> 3.1G	Desktop 4.0K	Documents 4.9G	Downloads 80K	Firefox_wallpaper.png 4.0K	Music 4.0K	nettoyageglobal.sh 14M	opera_11.10.2092-1mint1_i386.deb 4.0K	Pictures 4.0K	Public 4.0K	Templates 4.0K	Videos
[02:21] <diamonds> zykotick9: where do I manage it if it's in interfaces?
[02:22] <diamonds> and more importantly, where the heck did the wireless icon go last time??
[02:22] <diamonds> wifey uses the computer when I'm out of town at work, and I can't walk her thru all this
[02:22] <zykotick9> diamonds, in the interfaces file???  I've never done wireless with it, but it is possible
[02:22] <diamonds> zykotick9: I got the advice in this channel :p
[02:22] <diamonds> but I'll remove the last two lines now and restart the applet
[02:22] <zykotick9> juarea, sorry try "du -sh / 2>/dev/null" to check your root filesystem
[02:23] <zykotick9> juarea, you do have 5GB in ~/Downloads
[02:24] <juarea> Yes..
[02:24] <diamonds> zykotick9: what must I clear to reload that interfaces file"?
[02:24] <diamonds> It's still showing "not managed"
[02:25] <zykotick9> diamonds, "grep wlan0 /etc/network/interfaces" is anything NOT commented out?
[02:25] <diamonds> zykotick9: nothing returned
[02:25] <Kumquat> Gaah stupid unreliable wireless. Did someone answer my question while I was away?
[02:25] <diamonds> I removed it
[02:26] <diamonds> ffff...
[02:26] <zykotick9> diamonds, perhaps "sudo service networking restart"  - probably disconnect you
[02:26] <diamonds> every time i  turn around rfkill has a block on wifi
[02:26] <diamonds> where the heck is it getting that from??
[02:26] <diamonds> ttfn
[02:28] <Kumquat> How would one bridge a connection using Ubuntu?
[02:28] <diamonds> zykotick9: http://pastie.org/pastes/2358948/text
[02:29] <dkog> KE1HA: fyi http://packages.debian.org/sid/iptables-persistent can be installed to auto-load iptables config
[02:29] <diamonds> zykotick9: sorry, it says "restart: Unknown instance: " every time I service networking restart
[02:29] <zykotick9> diamonds, now try nm-applet
[02:29] <TheFuzzball> So, GNOME looks normal (http://www.dropmocks.com/mYj54) for a second before switching to a classic ugly theme (http://www.dropmocks.com/mYj55) Is there a fix for this bug?
[02:30] <diamonds> not managed.... :(
[02:30] <DigDug> hh
[02:30] <diamonds> this is getting oldish :(
[02:30] <diamonds> I had wireless working 2 days ago, broke, got it up again
[02:30] <TheFuzzball> Going into Appearance and changing the theme has no effect on the menu bars.
[02:30] <diamonds> working yesterday morning, broke, I was out of town
[02:30] <diamonds> I gotta figure a way to KEEP this working
[02:31] <treyh> diamonds: what version of ubuntu you running?
[02:31] <diamonds> spending  an hour trying to debug every time I want to use the wireless nick is... suboptimal UX
[02:31] <diamonds> 11.04
[02:31] <treyh> thats your problem
[02:31] <treyh> dell laptop?
[02:31] <diamonds> treyh: correct
[02:31] <diamonds> what should I be running?
[02:31] <diamonds> I
[02:31] <diamonds> I'll reinstall
[02:31] <treyh> depends
[02:31] <treyh> what model laptop
[02:31] <diamonds> lol
[02:32] <diamonds> srsly?
[02:32] <diamonds> e1505
[02:32] <treyh> lol hehe
[02:32] <FloodBot1> diamonds: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:32] <treyh> e5510 here, i feel your pain sec i'll find the link to make you happy
[02:32] <diamonds> that's just kinda sad that ubuntu is SO hardware specific you're fked if you have the wrong dell
[02:32] <diamonds> or the wrong version
[02:32] <treyh> it's not that
[02:32] <treyh> ti's the wireless driver's fault
[02:33] <diamonds> Plus *****I had it working yesterday!!!******
[02:33] <treyh> when you went to install it, the restricted driver failed right?
[02:33] <diamonds> ?
[02:33] <diamonds> it was working yesterday morning
[02:33] <Kumquat> How would one bridge a connection using ubuntu
[02:33] <Kumquat> ?
[02:33] <treyh> diamonds: quick question, you updated and etc. ?
[02:34] <diamonds> treyh: yes
[02:34] <Mr_T> whowas pr0ton
[02:34] <diamonds> perhaps I should treat it like windows: restart and cross my fingers
[02:34] <treyh> diamonds: i had the same problems with 11.04 which drove me to fedora for a while, then i went to linux mint which is based on ub 11.04
[02:34] <EgyParadox> Kumquat: internet connection sharing u mean?
[02:34] <diamonds> jimminy cricket...
[02:34]  * diamonds sigh
[02:35] <diamonds> I had avoided ubuntu/linux for a while fearing it wasn't ready for prime time (my friends were always having issues)
[02:35] <Kumquat> EgyParadox: I want to use my netbook to connect to the Internet, and use an ethernet cable from it to get a connection for my Desktop
[02:35] <UbuBegin> hi guys, Let's say I have a cpp file.. I wanna convert it to text file(open office if possible) with color coded syntax and line number
[02:35] <diamonds> but I figured that given my super-common hardware and ubuntu's maturity, it would work for basic stuff at this point
[02:35] <treyh> diamonds: it's not that there are problems no matte what you use, just depends
[02:36] <treyh> diamonds: not always linux's fault, some people are picky about being able to use their drivers and hardware
[02:36] <diamonds> treyh: I'm not picky :)
[02:36] <diamonds> what can I do?
[02:36] <treyh> diamonds: finally found the link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[02:37] <treyh> diamonds: the short description, remove this:  bcmwl-kernel-source
[02:37] <treyh> diamonds: install 10.10's version of  bcmwl-kernel-source
[02:37] <treyh> diamonds: lock it to that version in the package manager, problem solved
[02:37] <EgyParadox> Kumquat: Choose shared to other computers under methods under IPv4 settings in network manager
[02:38] <juarea> what command do you put to download and install java... is it apt-get download java?
[02:38] <jpsman> shoot, who do I message on freenode to get verified again?
[02:38] <EgyParadox> https://jeremy.visser.name/2009/03/simple-internet-connection-sharing-with-networkmanager/
[02:38] <szal> !java | juarea
[02:39] <treyh> jpsman: log out and log back in, there will be a link with instructions
[02:40] <jpsman> treyh, naw its the nickserv
[02:40] <jpsman> thanks anyway
[02:41] <UbuBegin> hi guys, Let's say I have a cpp file.. I wanna convert it to text file(open office if possible) with color coded syntax and line number
[02:41] <mrdeb> what does it mean when disk check says non-continguos
[02:41] <treyh> UbuBegin: no conversion needed, simply open it with a text editor that has color coded syntax and etc.
[02:41] <jpsman> UbuBegin, is that a C plus plus file you're talking about?
[02:42] <UbuBegin> treyh, actually, i want to copy the color-coded syntax and paste it into a open office document.. How'd you do that ???
[02:43] <treyh> UbuBegin: the colors and line #'s are built into the program, if you don't want to edit it after placing it in open office, screen shot it
[02:43] <jpsman> I dont think gedit can output the color coded syntax into say an XML....
[02:43] <juarea> still here?
[02:43] <juarea> ok good
[02:43] <Kumquat> I want to get a wireless connection to my laptop, and use an ethernet cable from it to get an internet connection to my desktop
[02:43] <mattgyver> juarea, I think its sun-java-6, but you have to have the partner repo enabled
[02:43] <diamonds> I think I'll just shut the gd thing down and see if that fixes it
[02:43] <diamonds> the ol' windows trick
[02:43] <diamonds> brb
[02:43] <rslacke> so..since I got disconnected: is there a keyboard shortcut for desktop grid?
[02:43] <rslacke> in unity
[02:43] <zach> UbuBegin, maybe upload it to pastebin.com and copy the HTML formatted text into an open office document.
[02:43] <|Slacker|> nevermind..just found it
[02:43]  * diamonds sigh
[02:43] <diamonds> now I'm back to lshw telling me *-network DISABLED
[02:43] <Internetpc> Hi...
[02:43] <Internetpc> i there any one ??
[02:43] <diamonds> just restarted
[02:43] <diamonds> http://pastie.org/2359006
[02:44] <treyh> UbuBegin: here you go, this should do it: http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/project/coooder
[02:44] <diamonds> treyh: ok.....
[02:44] <diamonds> this isn't going to kill me?
[02:44] <theadmin> UbuBegin: In Vim, do :runtime! syntax/2html.vim
[02:44] <treyh> diamonds: okay what did you do?
[02:44] <theadmin> UbuBegin: That's how I'd do it
[02:44] <subarubdub> Hi ppl
[02:44] <diamonds> treyh: I just restarted
[02:44] <diamonds> but now http://pastie.org/2359006
[02:45] <mrdeb> well
[02:45] <diamonds> it wasn't disabled before... I got that turned off some how (the disabling)
[02:45] <subarubdub> I r newb w/ubuntu but no more windows for me. I have libre office but I want open office, cant figure out how to install it.
[02:45] <treyh> diamonds: did you see the link i posted earlier?
[02:45] <diamonds> treyh: yes...
[02:45] <theadmin> subarubdub: From openoffice.org, but I don't see why you
[02:45] <bindi_> subarubdub: libreoffice is the replacement to openoffice
[02:45] <subarubdub> oh ok
[02:45] <treyh> diamonds: did you try the short method ?
[02:45] <diamonds> I'm just trying to figure... I don't know I had it working before!!!!
[02:46] <subarubdub> so just hang with libre
[02:46] <diamonds> treyh: I'll try it now
[02:46] <JPSman> subarubdub: you an install open office too if you want.  ubuntu software center or the synaptic package manager
[02:46] <treyh> diamonds: sec i'll find you a link
[02:46] <subarubdub> it is sometimes confusing to install apps on their own
[02:47] <JPSman> I have a far more advance question.  How can I directly interact with the screen?  like, BELOW the x server....
[02:47] <subarubdub> thanks
[02:47] <subarubdub> I found it in the software center.
[02:47] <propman> treyh: diamonds post says he's running a  PRO/Wireless 3945ABG not a Broadcom
[02:48] <JPSman> what bytes in what file would I have to modify to put say a big red circle on the screen independant of the x server?
[02:48] <subarubdub> but libre is newer and has everything anyway?
[02:48] <diamonds> http://pastie.org/pastes/2359026/text
[02:48] <treyh> diamonds: that changes the game lol
[02:48] <diamonds> subarubdub: yes, you want libre
[02:49] <mrdeb> what does it mean when disk check says non-continguos
[02:49] <UbuBegin> theadmin, how do i insert html file into the open office document
[02:49] <JPSman> subarubdub: I dont know, I have yet to try/use libre - best of luck :0D
[02:49] <KadirB> hi
[02:49] <propman> treyh:  that one works straight out of the box in mint.....I have it on my laptop
[02:49]  * diamonds sighs
[02:49] <diamonds> so...
[02:50] <subarubdub> it replaces libre with open office. better stick with libre
[02:50] <diamonds> subarubdub: correct
[02:50] <treyh> propman: the broadcom ones? yes they do :)
[02:50] <diamonds> now I'm getting "wireless disabled by hardware switch"
[02:50] <theadmin> UbuBegin: You can open it in OpenOffice and save it as .odt
[02:51] <keithclark> I cannot seem to get the Startup Disk Creator to select a .iso image to use.  It is stuck on one I selected quite some time ago.  When I try 'other' and select a different .iso, the same one remains.
[02:51] <diamonds> WTF DOES THAT MEAN!!?!
[02:51] <treyh> keithclark: use unetbootin instead, much easier
[02:51] <treyh> diamonds: you have a physical switch thats turned off
[02:51] <diamonds> treyh: nope
[02:51] <diamonds> I've switched it both ways
[02:52] <treyh> diamonds: convert from ub 11.04 to linux mint 11 and your problems should go away
[02:52] <diamonds> it's fn+f2
[02:52] <diamonds> treyh: my problems will go away, or THIS problem will go away?
[02:52] <treyh> diamonds: besides the function option, there may also be a physical switch you have to move?
[02:52] <diamonds> treyh: no
[02:52] <diamonds> there's not
[02:52] <treyh> whats the model of your laptop again?
[02:52] <diamonds> linux is just confused
[02:52] <diamonds> e1505
[02:53] <diamonds> why should lint work and ubuntu not?
[02:53] <diamonds> this is a networking thing....
[02:53] <keithclark> treyh, I tried that but it does not work either.  I try Diskimage, iso and then when I try to search for my file it only shows the root directory tree
[02:53] <UbuBegin> theadmin, how do i add the line numbers and also there seems to be grayed indentation (how to remove that?
[02:54] <theadmin> UbuBegin: I don't know about indentation, never saw this. As for line numbers, :set nu
[02:54] <UbuBegin> theadmin, thanks will do that
[02:54] <treyh> diamonds: might be turned off in the bios
[02:54] <subarubdub> so can libre still edit doc/docx and xls/xlsx
[02:54]  * diamonds bangs head on table
[02:55] <diamonds> treyh: thank you for the suggestion but that is SO f'ing unlikely :p
[02:55] <theadmin> subarubdub: Yes it can
[02:55] <theadmin> subarubdub: LibreOffice is a fork of OpenOffice
[02:55] <treyh> keithclark: copy your iso to the root directory for a few minutes and call it good
[02:55] <subarubdub> schweeet
[02:55] <subarubdub> thanks
[02:55] <keithclark> treyh, got it figured out, thanks!
[02:55] <treyh> diamonds: no reason to be so negative
[02:55] <diamonds> treyh: if it is, it's some magical ubuntu bios manipulation, because it never happened in XP
[02:55] <diamonds> treyh: sorry :(
[02:56] <diamonds> I'm just frustrate because there doesn't seem to be any systematic way to fix this very common issue
[02:56] <diamonds> it's "try a half dozen things and see if any of them work"
[02:56] <treyh> diamonds: have you googled it?
[02:56] <diamonds> (it's not your fault)
[02:56] <diamonds> treyh: yes
[02:57] <diamonds> I don't find info for my 1. version 2. model 3. wireless card
[02:57] <diamonds> sometimes I find one or two points matching
[02:57] <diamonds> usually just one...
[02:57] <treyh> diamonds: you tried: linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic
[02:57] <propman> diamonds:  in that paste to http://pastie.org/2359006   on the screen it says you are running an Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG   and therefore not a Broadcom wireless
[02:57] <diamonds> propman: agreed
[02:58] <t0rc> So my touchpad is messed up. I'm on a Sony Vaio and the mouse buttons don't always register. They are very intermittent and such. It's a bit frustrating.
[02:58] <diamonds> that's a command?
[02:58] <treyh> thats a software package
[02:58] <t0rc> I'm wondering if there's any way for me to fix that.
[02:58] <treyh> sec researching it more
[02:59] <diamonds> treyh: found it here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Atheros/AR9285
[02:59] <treyh> diamonds: nice find, worth a shot!
[03:00] <treyh> sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-maverick-generic
[03:00] <diamonds> treyh: I tried :9
[03:00] <diamonds> no package found :(
[03:00] <treyh> do sudo apt-get update
[03:00] <treyh> then try again
[03:01] <diamonds> still doesn't find it
[03:01] <diamonds> and when I go thru the website software center says there's no such package
[03:02] <treyh> diamonds: might have removed it
[03:03] <nfirvine> Hi all, need help with runlevels/upstart, namely that I want a custom runlevel, but upstart apparently doesn't support them?
[03:03] <diamonds> treyh: I see
[03:04] <theadmin> nfirvine: Right, there are no runlevels in Ubuntu
[03:04] <hiroko> Hello, I need to wipe an HDD. I want to do it faster than normal, so i just want to set every fourth bit to zero. How can I do this with a shell command?
[03:05] <treyh> diamonds: the only thing i can suggest is to try using 10.10's drivers and etc. for your card
[03:05] <diamonds> treyh: how do I do that?
[03:05] <treyh> diamonds: if that doesn't work, try another version of different ubuntu flavor, 10.04 was pretty solid
[03:05] <diamonds> and why did they choose to break wireless on 11.04?
[03:05] <diamonds> was this a business decision?
[03:06] <diamonds> I mean, why would you update something to make it work less?
[03:06] <nfirvine> theadmin: Okay, maybe I can accomplish this another way.  Instead of powering off my desktop at night, I want it to go into "server mode" where it would consume less power but still serve files, etc.  Mainly, I want to stop X (gdm).
[03:06] <treyh> i'm sure that was their goal
[03:06] <theadmin> diamonds: Well, this is Linux for ya
[03:06] <treyh> diamonds: they don't want your wireless to work
[03:06] <diamonds> theadmin: don't say that, you make it sound like linux sucks!
[03:06] <theadmin> nfirvine: You can boot it with "text" appended to your kernel line.
[03:06] <treyh> diamonds: lol to make things better, things have to change. with change and innovation comes success and failure
[03:06] <theadmin> diamonds: Nope, just up-to-date-ness is above stability.
[03:06] <diamonds> that roxx
[03:07] <treyh> diamonds: 10.04 is considered the long term support version, aka LTS
[03:07] <theadmin> nfirvine: Or you can just... "sudo service gdm stop"
[03:07] <diamonds> sure, I can't connect to the internet...
[03:07] <treyh> diamonds: LTS is more stable, 11.04 is newer but less stable :)
[03:07] <diamonds> but check out this expose effect!
[03:07] <diamonds> treyh: ok
[03:07]  * diamonds sobs
[03:07] <nfirvine> theadmin: Yep, but I'd rather not have to restart the whole machine.  Yeah, I could just stop all the services I want, but it feels like there'd be a better way to do it (like runlevels ;)
[03:07] <diamonds> but I had it working yesterday!!!
[03:08] <theadmin> nfirvine: Except there ain't
[03:08] <treyh> diamonds: if you want stability go back to 10.04
[03:08] <theadmin> nfirvine: Maybe you should try another distro for a server, *with* those :D
[03:08] <propman> diamonds: fwiw, the PRO/Wireless 3945ABG has worked right out of the box for me on my laptop for several linux mint installs now (currently at linux mint 11)
[03:08] <diamonds> those pricks.... 11.04 is the default version to download at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[03:08] <nfirvine> theadmin: You're saying start with server then add on top?  Thing is I want both, and the ability to switch between  :D
[03:09] <diamonds> they should call it unstable if it is in fact unstable
[03:09] <treyh> diamonds: there is a dropdown to choose your version
[03:09] <theadmin> nfirvine: What I mean is, if you want runlevels maybe Ubuntu's not for you
[03:09] <nfirvine> theadmin: Also, noticed that in /etc/init/gdm.conf, this line: stop on runlevel [016]
[03:09] <diamonds> treyh: "the DEFAULT version"
[03:09] <treyh> !ignore | diamonds
[03:09] <nfirvine> theadmin: so obviously it knows something about runlevels
[03:09] <diamonds> treyh: I don't not want to see your msgs :)
[03:09] <celltech> Software center is refusing to instal programs I download
[03:09] <ttuttle> How do I turn off Compiz?
[03:10] <treyh> diamonds: again no need to be a negative nancy
[03:10] <diamonds> but you see that I'm saying it's the "default" version, right?
[03:10] <diamonds> treyh: k
[03:10] <theadmin> nfirvine: Ah yes, but you have to configure them yourself :D
[03:10] <syntaxx> is there a way i can preserve the home directory during preseeding?
[03:10] <theadmin> nfirvine: man update-rc.d
[03:10] <treyh> diamonds: you're in the box, you hate the box, there is no helping you, install windows
[03:10] <nfirvine> theadmin: Exactly, and it looks like the /etc/init/ files are not for hand tweaking
[03:11] <nfirvine> theadmin: and I already used sysv-rc-conf, but gdm is disabled in it already
[03:11] <theadmin> nfirvine: Ah, odd
[03:11] <diamonds> how to fix ubuntu wireless on your dell (according to #ubuntu): "Install windows"
[03:11] <diamonds> gotcha
[03:12] <diamonds> I'm so close...
[03:12] <diamonds> I can taste my wireless internet
[03:12] <nfirvine> theadmin: I think because it's a pure upstart service
[03:13] <theadmin> nfirvine: As I said, check update-rc.d out, I think that still works
[03:13] <diamonds> down at the very bottom: http://pastie.org/pastes/2359145/text
[03:13] <diamonds> what does this mean? "wlan0     IEEE 802.11abg  ESSID:off/any  "
[03:13] <diamonds> ESSID:off/any?
[03:13] <nfirvine> theadmin: Cool, I will thanks.  Now I'm leaning towards just tweaking /etc/init/gdm.conf
[03:13] <diamonds> does that mean it's off?
[03:14] <diamonds> eh... I'll try restarting again
[03:18] <Kumquat> I'm trying to use my laptop to set up a network bridge using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge, but now I don't seem to have an Internet connection on either computer
[03:21] <diamonds> wireless working!
[03:21] <diamonds> reset 3 times, just like XP
[03:22] <diamonds> I think it might have to do with the state of the hardware switch ON STARTUP
[03:22] <diamonds> like, I think you maybe can't change it once the computer is running
[03:22] <theadmin> diamonds: Could be
[03:22] <theadmin> diamonds: Awkward hardware issues
[03:23] <noneabove1182> anyone know how to delete a ppa ?
[03:23]  * diamonds sighs
[03:23] <diamonds> well I was gonna sort out this issue then watch a show
[03:23] <diamonds> but now it's been 2hrs...
[03:23] <theadmin> noneabove1182: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/your-ppa.list
[03:23] <diamonds> and it's late
[03:23] <diamonds> oh whellll
[03:23] <diamonds> thx everyone! I'll leave trayh a note...
[03:23] <noneabove1182> theadmin is your-ppa supposed to be replaced with the one i want to delete?
[03:24] <noneabove1182> theadmin dont wanna assume XD
[03:24] <rww> !info ppa-purge | noneabove1182
[03:24] <theadmin> noneabove1182: Obviously :D
[03:24] <diamonds> what was that dude's name?
[03:24] <diamonds> trayh?
[03:24] <diamonds> treyh?
[03:25] <noneabove1182> diamonds treyh left
[03:25] <diamonds> noneabove1182: I know.  I was leaving a memoserv msg
[03:25] <diamonds> but I forgot his exact nick... done!
[03:25] <noneabove1182> theadmin and alright so not sure what that was about purging but i will try the other thing you said
[03:25] <theadmin> noneabove1182: apt-get install ppa-purge ; ppa-purge your-ppa
[03:26] <theadmin> noneabove1182: Just an easier way :D
[03:26] <noneabove1182> and should that be the url in place of "your-ppa"?
[03:26] <hanasaki> is there a java7 packet for natty?
[03:26] <theadmin> noneabove1182: No, it should be a ppa address like ppa:mozilla-team/firefox-stable
[03:27] <mrdeb> is firefox 3618 still safe to use
[03:27] <theadmin> mrdeb: I wouldn't
[03:28] <noneabove1182> theadmin alright ill take a loot thanks
[03:28] <tswift> Hi
[03:29] <tswift> any idea how to make my terminal copy text when it is selected?
[03:29] <coz_> twitch,   shift+ctrl+c
[03:29] <JakeWharton> hi all, i'm installing ubuntu on a fresh bare metal machine and am facing issues with a crap SATA controller allowing booting from a mirror or even single drive. I was hoping to use GRUB on a USB flash drive (since that boots fine) and boot a mdam mirror. It all seems straightforward on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID but i'm curious when I install GRUB how do I point it to the mirror so it'll boot even if
[03:29] <JakeWharton> a drive is failed?
[03:29] <tswift> but in redhat it works without doing shift+ctrl+c
[03:29] <tswift> just copies automatically
[03:30] <tswift> or maybe its the vnc client that does it
[03:30] <tswift> anyways
[03:30] <tswift> wish I could have it that way
[03:30] <mrdeb> so why is it not ugprade
[03:31] <mrdeb> upgraded
[03:35] <mokti> Does anyone here use WMII with Ubuntu?
[03:36] <hanasaki> what is wmii
[03:36] <rww> !info wmii | hanasaki
[03:36] <konsumer> lo
[03:36] <konsumer> how i can i check what LAN IP im using ?
[03:37] <hanasaki> thanks
[03:37] <konsumer> i want to forward a port, but i have no clue what local ip im using
[03:37] <rww> konsumer: ifconfig or probably somewhere in networkmanager
[03:37] <konsumer> ty
[03:38] <konsumer> ipconfig did not work
[03:38] <hanasaki> wmii looks interesting... I am looking for something new... gnome3 is eh... loved gnome2 and ubuntu ditched gnome3 for unity anyways... kde is to pretty and heavy  but I want transparencies.. thoughts?
[03:38] <Gruffy> Quick facebook question, how do you block people from posting on your wall?
[03:38] <konsumer> No command 'ipconfig' found
[03:38] <theadmin> hanasaki: xfce maybe
[03:38] <DoYouKnow> How do I get my touchpad working in ubuntu 10.10? It seems to be very slow on this dell xps m1530
[03:38] <theadmin> Gruffy: Umm... That's not Ubuntu-related
[03:38] <hanasaki> rww:  mokti   looks like wmii is in the natty packages
[03:38] <DoYouKnow> the mouse sensitivity settings don't do anything
[03:38] <mokti> ifconfig, konsumer
[03:38] <konsumer> Gruffy, go to #facebook
[03:39] <rww> !ot | Gruffy
[03:39] <konsumer> oh, i see, lol
[03:39] <DoYouKnow> any ideas?
[03:39] <hanasaki> theadmin:  never got the transparencies to work in xfce and it depends on gnome libs.. at least in ubuntu
[03:39] <konsumer> Thanks rww and mokti  :D
[03:39] <Gruffy> Yeah I know what this channel is
[03:39] <DoYouKnow> my usb mouse works fine
[03:39] <Gruffy> it was just a quick questio
[03:39] <DoYouKnow> but my ps2 mouse does not
[03:39] <Kumquat> I'm trying to use my laptop to set up a network bridge using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge, but now I don't seem to have an Internet connection on either computer
[03:39] <Gruffy> *question
[03:40] <konsumer> im guessing this is it. Right? "inet addr:192.168.0.2"
[03:40] <rww> konsumer: sounds like it
[03:40] <konsumer> ty sir :)
[03:40] <puffin> Mine is 190.168.1.105
[03:42] <mokti> anyone here use irssi? In some channels names don't get highlighted when my name is mentioned
[03:42] <mokti> I thought "/color auto" made this happen, but I could be wrong. Can anyone confirm?
[03:43] <noneabove1182> okay guys big problem.. installed ubuntu, now windows 7 is corrupt, will not boot, and if i try to reinstall it doesnt recognize any partitions... help? :/
[03:43] <konsumer> mokti, i think theres an #irssi channel
[03:43] <rww> there is
[03:43] <mokti> konsumer: thanks, I guess I should have figured that
[03:44] <konsumer> most other chans besides this and debian are pretty much idle for hours
[03:44] <hanasaki> is there a java7 package?
[03:44] <rww> hanasaki: no
[03:44] <hanasaki> bummer
[03:44] <theadmin> konsumer: That's true
[03:44] <hanasaki> any plans for one?
[03:44] <konsumer> :P
[03:45] <hitmoon> i want to use gpg to generate a pair of key, but i dont want to answer the follow questions , how  can i do this?
[03:45] <hitmoon> any idea?
[03:46] <Kumquat> I'm trying to use my laptop to set up a network bridge using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge, but now I don't seem to have an Internet connection on either computer
[03:46] <th0r> hitmoon: that question makes no sense. What don't you want to answer?
[03:47] <konsumer> lol
[03:47] <noneabove1182> could really use some help with my windows 7 as i can no longer load into it and its kinda annoying and worrisome
[03:47] <theadmin> th0r: The questions GPG asks interactively
[03:48] <puffin> You can delete your windows partition. Problem solved!
[03:48] <hitmoon> th0r: i mean batch mode
[03:48] <konsumer> Is there a way to open more TCP ports ?
[03:48] <konsumer> i keep getting ping outs with Distro seeding on torrents
[03:48] <konsumer> seeding or just downloading
[03:48] <hitmoon> i know the answer can be write into a file, then run batch mode
[03:49] <hitmoon> but i dont know the format of the file
[03:50] <noneabove1182> puffin thanks ><
[03:50] <hitmoon> because i want to use gpg in a bash script
[03:50] <hitmoon> and dont want any interaction
[03:52] <Kumquat> I'm trying to use my laptop to set up a network bridge using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge, but now I don't seem to have an Internet connection on either computer
[03:52] <MrDave> Firefox 8 windows stays hidden after it starts....
[03:54] <D-coy> m4v o/
[03:55] <MrDave> Firefox 8 windows stays hidden after it starts....
[03:56] <theadmin> MrDave: I don't think Firefox 8 is out yet
[03:56] <MrDave> theadmin,  ff8 is ffnext or ff nightly
[03:57] <MrDave> i wonder where ff profile is stored
[03:58] <theadmin> MrDave: ~/.mozilla/firefox/profiles
[03:58] <MrDave> perhaps if i delete it, that will fix
[03:58] <MrDave> ty
[03:59] <Guest79621> hi, I use Ubuntu 11.04 intel 32bit with Intel 82845G/GL graphic card, without unity. My RAM is 950 MB total and 930 MB used but when i check mem usage, i saw gdm 10%, firefox 17% thunderbird 10%  Xorg 12% and that's all the main, any tips ?
[04:00] <Zungo> hey, how can i add myself (new users) to sudoers list?
[04:00] <Guest79621> hi, I use Ubuntu 11.04 intel 32bit with Intel 82845G/GL graphic card, without unity. My RAM is 950 MB total and 930 MB used but when i check mem usage, i saw gdm 10%, firefox 17% thunderbird 10%  Xorg 12% and that's all the main, any tips ? after a few hours my computer will freeze
[04:00] <warddr> Guest79621, in system manager go to view, and select all processes
[04:01] <zykotick9> !atemyram | Guest79621
[04:01] <rww> Zungo: sudo adduser usernamehere admin
[04:01] <Zungo> admin group?
[04:01] <b22b> #hispania
[04:01] <Zungo> nah, going to do it via gui....
[04:04] <visitor1> after one of the last update my screen resolution changes after login, but only after the network connection is established
[04:04] <Guest79621> Wardje, firefox 138 MB,  Xorg 115 MB, thunderbird 68 MB, Metacity 53 MB, ubuntuone-sync 21 MB, is it ok, I don't like that
[04:04] <visitor1> anybody know of this bug?
[04:04] <visitor1> nvidia graphics card, xubuntu 10.04 lts
[04:05] <visitor1> it changes to interlaced and i have to change it back and after that its working ok
[04:06] <KadirB> :D
[04:08] <Guest79621> zykotick9, thanks but the problem is that system freeze twice/once a day and it seems that it is because of out of memory problem ...
[04:09] <numberstation> hello
[04:10] <numberstation> i have a quick question, how do i check if there is a duplicate entry in a file?
[04:10] <theadmin> numberstation: entry?
[04:10] <numberstation> like, i've got a bunch of words in a file
[04:10] <DoYouKnow> I'm looking at some of the updated ubuntu 10.10 packages... they have such futuristic names
[04:10] <numberstation> it's structured like "word word word word word"
[04:11] <numberstation> how do i make sure that each word is UNIQUE?
[04:11] <edbian> numberstation: using python is how I would
[04:11] <DoYouKnow> sort -u, I think
[04:11] <DoYouKnow> numberstation:
[04:11] <DoYouKnow> or is it -a
[04:11] <DoYouKnow> I think it's -u
[04:12] <numberstation> could you write an example command?
[04:12] <rww> #ubuntu is not #homeworkhelp
[04:12] <Kumquat> I'm trying to use my laptop to set up a network bridge using https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkConnectionBridge, but now I don't seem to have an Internet connection on either computer
[04:13] <DoYouKnow> numberstation: use awk/sed (forget which one, a google search should say) to seperate out the words, then use sort -u, to make them unique
[04:13] <DoYouKnow> which is basically a replacement of a space with a \r or a \n
[04:14] <DoYouKnow> wait, I'm not even sure that's needed... numberstation
[04:14] <numberstation> i'm REALLY bad a scripting, i'm not really a linux user
[04:14] <DoYouKnow> try "cat file.txt | sort -u"
[04:14] <numberstation> could you ...tell me which commands to put into my shell ?:P
[04:15] <datruth> Does anyone know of away in ubuntu using openvpn, to track down clients vpn assigned ip and traffic associated via firewall/iptables?
[04:15] <th0r> rww: maybe it is #homeworkhelp <smile>
[04:15] <qin> numberstation: wc ?
[04:16] <numberstation> wc?
[04:16] <numberstation> what's wc?
[04:16] <DoYouKnow> numberstation: "cat file.txt | sort -u"
[04:16] <qin> numberstation: word count
[04:16] <DoYouKnow> where file.txt is the file
[04:16] <DoYouKnow> that contains the words you want to be unique
[04:16] <arrty> how can i run a test on my hard drive
[04:16] <arrty> to see if it's failing
[04:16] <numberstation> wait wait wait, imma gonna pastebin a sample file
[04:17] <nardev> hi, does anyone know about software that can turn your PC into ham radio station by using wi-fi antenna?
[04:17] <mattgyver> numberstation, I think you can just uniq
[04:17] <DoYouKnow> numberstation: what output did you get when you ran that command?
[04:17] <numberstation> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=EPE47uPc
[04:17] <th0r> nardev: now that would be a cute trick
[04:18] <numberstation> wait, each word isn't on it's own line :P
[04:18] <nardev> th0r, :)
[04:18] <numberstation> it's one long line of "word word word word"
[04:18] <KatronixSerf> hi all, which file do I edit so that Ubuntu will never start X automatically?
[04:18] <mattgyver> numberstation, try putting that all in a file and try, uniq -u <path to file>
[04:19] <mattgyver> blah, that might not work
[04:20] <numberstation> how do i how do i split the file into one word per line?
[04:20] <tensorpudding> numberstation: you could replace all instances of spaces with newlines
[04:20] <zykotick9> KatronixSerf, one method is "sudo mv /etc/init/gdm /etc/init/gdm.disabled"
[04:20] <KatronixSerf> ok
[04:20] <numberstation> tensorpudding: how do I do that?
[04:21] <tensorpudding> numberstation: sed or a reasonably smart text editor could do it
[04:21] <KatronixSerf> zykotick9, is that the best way?
[04:21] <numberstation> tensorpudding: i don' know these tools
[04:22] <zykotick9> KatronixSerf, easiest for sure
[04:22] <numberstation> DEAR EVERYONE, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO ANYTHING ON THE COMMAND LINE, THAT'S WHY I'M HERE
[04:22] <KatronixSerf> zykotick9, ok
[04:22] <th0r> numberstation: please don't shout
[04:22] <numberstation> (not shouting, just making an announcement :P)
[04:23] <mattgyver> numberstation, sed -i 's/ /\n/g' <file path>
[04:23] <KatronixSerf> zykotick9, mv: cannot stat `/etc/init/gdm': No such file or directory
[04:23] <zykotick9> KatronixSerf, "ls /etc/init/gdm*"
[04:23] <numberstation> THAT WORKED!
[04:24] <numberstation> so, how do i make sure each line is unique?
[04:24] <mattgyver> so now try doing, uniq -u <path to file>
[04:24] <th0r> KatronixSerf: you might try just 'sudo service gdm stop' and see if that does it
[04:24] <mattgyver> see if that works, cuz now there on seperate lines
[04:24] <zykotick9> KatronixSerf, are you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu or something else?
[04:24] <tensorpudding> numberstation: oh, in the future, gedit can do it
[04:24] <numberstation> oh, sort it, then try the uniq thing?
[04:24] <rootkitinstaller> Is there any way to find out how old my existing Ubuntu install is? I want to make sure this install is at least older than one week...
[04:24] <mattgyver> yea
[04:24] <numberstation> hwo do I sort it again?
[04:24] <KatronixSerf> zykotick9, I'm using ubuntu. I want to make it so it never enters run level 5
[04:25] <KatronixSerf> even on reboot
[04:25] <tensorpudding> numberstation: just replace, and search for a space, and replace with \n
[04:25] <mattgyver> numberstation, if it does, you could just make it all one command by doing; sed -i 's/ /\n/g' <path> | uniq -u <path>
[04:25] <tensorpudding> numberstation: it's smart enough to match \n as a newline, and not a literal \n
[04:25] <zykotick9> KatronixSerf, right you need to disable GDM - forget about runlevels, they don't really apply on Ubuntu
[04:25] <numberstation> grawr this isn't working
[04:25] <qin> numberstation: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/abs-guide.html
[04:25] <rww> KadirB: stop winking at FloodBot1, it doesn't like you ;(
[04:26] <KatronixSerf> zykotick9, ok
[04:26] <DoYouKnow> how do I fix my mouse in linux?
[04:26] <DoYouKnow> it's very slow
[04:26] <DoYouKnow> it's a touchpad
[04:26] <therugi> oh cool, a dedicated ubuntu support channel
[04:26] <th0r> DoYouKnow: synclient?
[04:26] <arrty> is it safe to do the natty release upgrade over ssh to my server 2000 miles away?
[04:26] <htat> Is there a way to make it so that I've deleted all users on this machine's ubuntu partition (running 10.10 Maverick Meerkat, the other is Windows XP which I want untouched), and allow it to be able to start Ubuntu as if it were a fresh install?
[04:26] <JimmyNeutron> DoYouKnow, change the Mouse Preferences
[04:27] <DoYouKnow> JimmyNeutron: those don't do anything
[04:27] <numberstation> qin: that's 989 pages if i were to print it out, seriously?
[04:27] <tensorpudding> htat: deleting all users won't make it a fresh install
[04:27] <tensorpudding> htat: the applications you installed will still be there
[04:27] <DoYouKnow> actually, they do
[04:27] <JPSman> I have an advanced question.  what if i ran   sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/fb0   while X (gdm) was running?
[04:27] <JimmyNeutron> DoYouKnow, works for my laptop
[04:27] <tensorpudding> htat: you could delete all but one, create a new one, then delete that last old one, and it'd be the same effect
[04:28] <JimmyNeutron> not sure why it doesnt work for yours
[04:28] <htat> tensorpudding, Alright, sounds like what I thought I might have to do. thanks!
[04:28] <qin> numberstation: Or rather this link with ready script: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/textproc.html
[04:28] <mattgyver> JPSman, what kind of device is /dev/fb0 ?
[04:29] <JPSman> mattgyver: its the frame buffer - I am interested in starting to learn how it works
[04:29] <stephenthemartyr> why woiuld a song in LMMS  al;l the sudden playb super fast?
[04:29] <JPSman> I just want to know if X would crash and screw something up permanently
[04:29] <therugi> hey...i kinda screwed up, and now i'm staring at openbox without a mouse and no key commands configured and it's set to auto login
[04:30] <cypha> how can I hibernate ubuntu, so I can allow the vbox it's on to give it more RAM?
[04:30] <mattgyver> JPSman, ahh, hmm... no clue honestly but you could just switch to another vt by crtl+alt+f1 or something and kill the dd process
[04:30] <JPSman> screw it i'm doing it
[04:30] <cypha> it basically is crapping out from too many chromium windows being open
[04:30] <mattgyver> JPSman, thats the spirit ;D
[04:32] <mattgyver> cypha, which machine is virtual?
[04:32] <cypha> ubuntu
[04:32] <stephenthemartyr> anyone?
[04:32] <oscurochu> stephenthemartyr: whats your question
[04:33] <JPSman> whelp, that went wonky
[04:33] <stephenthemartyr> lmms is playing a song i made in lmms super fast with no sound evenm though my sound is working
[04:33] <urlin2u> cypha, you want to hbernate the host to give the guest more ram?
[04:33] <urlin2u> hibernate
[04:33] <cypha> no
[04:33] <cypha> i want to hibernate the Guest so I can give the Guest more RAM
[04:34] <urlin2u> cypha, do you have more than 1 virtual open?
[04:34] <cypha> no
[04:34] <bullgard4_> [Lucid] I have got a dead symlink /etc/motd. It points to /var/run/motd. Do I have to care, or can I simply delete it?
[04:34] <mattgyver> cypha, looks like there is a hibernate script in /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh
[04:34] <oscurochu> stephenthemartyr: I had this same problem with mixxx on windows, and the problem was my sound API.
[04:35] <urlin2u> cypha, okay at least to me your not making sense.
[04:35] <cypha> wtf is having more than 1 virtual open
[04:35] <oscurochu> stephenthemartyr: Do you have the option to change your sound API? Did this help?
[04:35] <cypha> i only have 1 guest machine running
[04:35] <stephenthemartyr> oscurochu: sorry im not sure what that si?
[04:35] <stephenthemartyr> *is
[04:35] <quan> 33
[04:35] <propman> urlin2u: lol  not the only one then!
[04:35] <oscurochu> check in your settings.
[04:35] <stephenthemartyr> \for lmms?
[04:35] <urlin2u> cypha, if your going to swear in acronyms you will get no help.
[04:36] <krux> cypha, you could have multiple vm instances running at once
[04:36] <cypha> krux, that's why I said no
[04:36] <quan> exit
[04:36] <cypha> how does that make no sense to urlin2u
[04:36] <oscurochu> stephenthemartyr: I'm not too sure what it is either, I just remember it being an option in my settings, and changing it fixed the problem.
[04:36] <stephenthemartyr> oscurochu: in the lmms settings what am i lookin for?
[04:36] <stephenthemartyr> wat is api?
[04:37] <oscurochu> stephenthemartyr: I'm just taking a guess in the dark, it may be a totally different problem. I'm sorry if I was of no help.
[04:37] <bullgard4_> !prefix | stephenthemartyr
[04:38] <therugi> does anyone know how to logout with a key command in openbox?
[04:38] <urlin2u> cypha, if your trying to increase the ram in the vbox your using you have to shut it down , open edit and add ore ram.
[04:38] <cypha> right
[04:38] <cypha> that's fine
[04:38] <cypha> i just want the ubuntu session to be saved to the harddrive
[04:39] <cypha> then I want to increase the RAM
[04:39] <urlin2u> cypha, is that a workable answer.
[04:39] <cypha> and start it back up
[04:39] <cypha> i'm not asking how to add more ram
[04:39] <oscurochu> ubottu: it was a pretty general question, its not that big a deal... stop being snarky
[04:39] <cypha> i'm asking how to save hte ubuntu session
so what is my api or what is it?
[04:39] <krux> you could create a snapshot of your current state
[04:39] <cypha> a.k.a. hibernate
[04:39] <cypha> krux, that's fine, how do I do that?
[04:40] <JPSman> how can I put a red pixel in the middle of the screen using the framebuffer /dev/fb0 ???
[04:40] <bullgard4_> stephenthemartyr: API --  application programming interface.
[04:40] <stephenthemartyr> yea i googled it but i dont know what that is
[04:40] <Hencha> good afternoon all .... :)
[04:40] <cypha> krux: oh, you mean using vbox
[04:40] <therugi> okay how about this...does anyone know how to change the default desktop environment from the command line?
[04:40] <cypha> good idea
[04:41] <cypha> thanks
[04:41] <bullgard4_> stephenthemartyr: Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_programming_interface
[04:41] <krux> yeah
[04:41] <urlin2u> Hencha, what's up?
[04:41] <Hencha> fine bro
[04:41] <urlin2u> cool
[04:42] <stephenthemartyr> bullgard4_: i did
[04:42] <mattgyver> cypha, so I tried that hibernate script... now, it did what its suppose to though I have never had hibernate work on this laptop so it crashed
[04:42] <Hencha> anybody know how to brute force file ts ?
[04:43] <bullgard4_> therugi: This depends on your Ubuntu distribution version and your display manager.
[04:43] <mattgyver> cypha, if you want to check it out just run, good luck though; sudo sh /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh
[04:43] <bullgard4_> stephenthemartyr: Good.
[04:43] <cypha> mattgyver: i'm instead gonna use vbox to take a snapshot
[04:43] <cypha> i think that's the safest
[04:43] <therugi> bullgard4_: figured it out, just set auto login to false in /etc/gdm/custom.conf :) thanks anyway
[04:43] <cypha> can't risk losing all this porn
[04:44] <therugi> wait, noooooo it's still auto logging in! grrrr
[04:44] <Hencha> what's vbox ?
[04:44] <mattgyver> cypha, yeah its easy too, i was wondering why you wanted to hibernate a vm so now it makes sense
[04:44] <krux> virtualbox
[04:44] <theadmin> Hencha: Virtualbox
[04:44] <Hencha> tx
[04:45] <xgt001> hey there...... I am facing a weird but serious problem...when running ubuntu 11.04, my system shows plymouth screen randomly after something like 10 mins of logging in and crashes
[04:45] <cypha> i think it would go a lot faster if I actually partitioned my physical drive and ran ubuntu off there (virtualized in windows)
[04:45] <cypha> too bad my ssd is only 128
[04:46] <stephenthemartyr> anyone know why a song would be playing super fast in lmms?
[04:46] <mattgyver> cypha, its probably all relative, same hardware, and windows uses more resources than linux
[04:46] <cypha> stephenthemartyr: drugs
[04:47] <therugi> phew, ok, turned off timed log in too, that seemed to fix it, ah finally
[04:47] <cypha> mattgyver: at least windows runs smoothly. linux is disgustingly slow when it comes to X
[04:47] <therugi> never doing that again
[04:47] <cypha> and I'm running openbox
[04:48] <mattgyver> cypha, interesting.  Ive never really had any X speed problems (aside over vnc) but until now also never heard of openbox, might have to give that a looksey
[04:49] <cypha> yeah, I don't see a reason for anything heavier
[04:49] <cypha> for my needs
[04:49] <cypha> not that I think I would do any video editing, or the like in ubuntu
[04:49] <mattgyver> cypha, yeah ill be setting up a cloud network in my home in the coming weeks so that could be something useful to use on my vms
[04:50] <cypha> mattgyver: what're you going to use to serve?
[04:50] <stephenthemartyr> cypha: not anymore i quit,but seriously
[04:50] <mattgyver> probably xenserver, though I might go gangsta and just run ubuntu server and virtualbox and so alot of things headless
[04:51] <noneabove1182> any way to make my ubuntu always load up into failsafe graphic mode?
[04:51] <bullgard4_> [Lucid] I have got a dead symlink /etc/motd. It points to /var/run/motd. Do I have to care, or can I simply delete it?
[04:51] <cypha> why would you need virtualbox?
[04:51] <mattgyver> thats if i dont go with xen server, if i do then i wont need virtualbox
[04:51] <theadmin> bullgard4_: Odd, that file is normally a text file containing your motd
[04:52] <theadmin> bullgard4_: Not a symlink
[04:52] <mattgyver> cypha, the issue is i might not have the time to invest in xen and virtualbox could likely suit my needs
[04:52] <bullgard4_> theadmin: That's what I have read in Wikipedia too.
[04:53] <cypha> mattgyver: if you didn't go with xen, why would you need virtualbox?
[04:53] <bullgard4_> theadmin: man motd: "On Debian GNU/Linux this file is a symbolic link pointing to /var/run. "
[04:54] <mattgyver> cypha, I would probably just make a few VMs on my home server instead and just connect to them remotely
[04:54] <cypha> i still don't understand what the vm's are for?
[04:55] <therugi> man, i suck at openboxing :(
[04:56] <mattgyver> cypha, because it will be a completely virtualized network.  So instead of having like an office PC and personal PC, it will just be two vms but I can connect anywhere
[04:57] <cypha> aah, gotcha
[04:57] <cypha> but you really don't need multiple vm's for that
[04:57] <cypha> you can just create different users
[04:58] <jen> question!!!
[04:58] <jen> how do I make lid adjustments
[04:58] <jen> for when I want to make my computor shut off when I close the lid?
[04:58] <jen> laptop I should say
[04:58] <mattgyver> True, but I want it all to be on completely "separated" instances because each actually have different use cases
[04:58] <urlin2u> jen, power management
[04:59] <airtonix> :< i need the devel version of inkscape so i can get the qrcode extension. wish they would just provide it as a standalone plugin.
[05:00] <jen> what does hibernate do?
[05:00] <mattgyver> jen, hibernate basically does a shutdown but remembers the systems state.
[05:00] <jen> sweet ok
[05:00] <jen> thank you
[05:01] <mattgyver> jen, np
[05:01] <airtonix> jen: hibernate writes the contents of ram to the swap parition before power off completely
[05:01] <jen> umm
[05:01] <jen> heheh I got it ^^
[05:02] <urlin2u> jen, good deal. ;)
[05:02] <jen> what does spin down hard disks do?
[05:02] <mattgyver> jen, basically stops the hard disks to conserve power.
[05:03] <jen> I just dont like my computor getting hot
[05:03] <jen> it has shut down a couple times
[05:03] <jen> because of that
[05:03] <csdserver> which part is getting hot?  cpu probably?
[05:03] <jen> what?
[05:04] <jen> well wait...thats not why I came in here
[05:04] <jen> everytime I shut the lid
[05:04] <mattgyver> jen, honestly its a machine that you have to run a lot (like my laptop I use almost 8 hours a day for work) just get a cooling station.  Otherwise just set your timeout options for like every 15 or 30 min of idle time
[05:04] <jen> it doesnt suspend
[05:04] <theadmin> jen: System -> Prefrences -> Power management -> Action on laptop lid close
[05:04] <bullgard4_> theadmin: Do you use Lucid?
[05:04] <theadmin> bullgard4_: Sorry?
[05:05] <jen> yeah it was already like that
[05:05] <jen> let me try it once more
[05:05] <jen> I do it slowly...maybe thats why
[05:05] <bullgard4_> theadmin: Where does /etc/mod point to on your Lucid?
[05:05] <theadmin> bullgard4_: I'm not on Lucid o_o
[05:05] <jen> would that be the problem?
[05:05] <csdserver> it should trigger no matter how fast or slow, unless the leads are broken at the connection points
[05:06] <bullgard4_> theadmin: Thank you.
[05:06] <theadmin> bullgard4_: For what?
[05:06] <jen> ok well Im gonna do it quickly and if I fix it
[05:06] <jen> I wont come back here
[05:06] <mattgyver> jen, its possible too that the hardware also isnt properly supported and if thats the case, its hell to work out.
[05:06] <bullgard4_> theadmin: Thank you for your information and the time you have spent to as an attention to my question.
[05:07] <mattgyver> bullgard4, if i recall /etc/motd is the what is displayed to telnet session users
[05:07] <mattgyver> bullgard4, maybe also ftp, i cant recall but its something like that.  thats probably why its even alerting you.
[05:08] <bullgard4_> mattgyver: Yes. But in Ubuntu normally this is the text that you will see after logging in on a virtual console.
[05:10] <mattgyver> bullgard4, you could probably just create the file to fix the symlink i would imagine, im pretty sure its nothing more than just text
[05:10] <theadmin> bullgard4_: Well, on my system /etc/motd is an empty text file.
[05:11] <bullgard4_> theadmin: What distribution version are you using?
[05:11] <theadmin> bullgard4_: Well, that's unrelated because I use Arch :D
[05:11] <monaDeveloper> Hi
[05:11] <monaDeveloper> I just moved an executable file to ntfs part
[05:11] <mattgyver> bullgard4, im on lucid and its blank on mine
[05:11] <bullgard4_> theadmin: So Arch does solve this task differntly from Ubuntu.
[05:11] <monaDeveloper> but it doesn't execute anymore
[05:12] <monaDeveloper> even I tried many times to set the executable flag
[05:12] <bullgard4_> mattgyver: Ah! Intersting.
[05:12] <monaDeveloper> but nothing
[05:12] <mattgyver> bullgard4, actually hang on one sec
[05:12] <monaDeveloper> is there a solution to this issue
[05:12] <theadmin> bullgard4_: Yeah, /var/run/motd doesn't exist for me
[05:14] <mattgyver> bullgard4, yeah it doesnt exist for me either actually.  I have /etc/motd that is a symlink to /var/run/motd but /var/run/motd doesnt exist.
[05:15] <bullgard4_> mattgyver: So /etc/motd  is a dead symlink in your computer too?
[05:15] <mattgyver> bullgard4, yea
[05:15] <monaDeveloper> anybody there?
[05:15] <freezway> Yeah
[05:15] <bullgard4_> !ask monaDeveloper
[05:15] <urlin2u> monaDeveloper, what type of executable aimed at what.
[05:15] <bullgard4_> !ask | monaDeveloper
[05:16] <monaDeveloper> ok thank you
[05:16] <monaDeveloper> I have a linux file located in ntfs
[05:16] <mattgyver> bullgard4, are you getting some sort of error message about it?  How did you notice it?
[05:17] <bullgard4_> mattgyver: My mc prints /etc/motd in striking read.
[05:17] <bullgard4_> mattgyver: My mc prints /etc/motd in striking red.
[05:17] <monaDeveloper> oops sorry again I've a linux file located in ntfs partition it did work when it's located of course on ext
[05:17] <mattgyver> ahh
[05:18] <theadmin> monaDeveloper: mount -o remount,exec,rw /your/ntfs/partition
[05:18] <monaDeveloper> theadmin: ok I will try that
[05:18] <theadmin> monaDeveloper: You can't really set the executable flag the normal way on Linux executables in NTFS
[05:20] <monaDeveloper> theadmin: so how can I do that
[05:21] <goddard> ok so i got the fresco logic usb 3.0 working
[05:21] <goddard> finally
[05:21] <jen> well um
[05:21] <jen> it still will not suspend
[05:22] <theadmin> monaDeveloper: Just run the command I gave (as root)
[05:22] <monaDeveloper> theadmin: ok
[05:23] <mattgyver> jen, does the light at least turn off when you close the lid?
[05:24] <jen> no
[05:24] <jen> will it hurt my computor if I set it to shut down?
[05:25] <a111> I have Grub installed with a link to windows 7, cna i just remove grub and windows 7 will still boot?
[05:25] <jen> I heard that may harm my computor
[05:25] <urlin2u> a111, no
[05:25] <mattgyver> jen, if it works, it could over time hurt the filesystem
[05:25] <mattgyver> jen, by chance was this a windows install of ubuntu?
[05:25] <a111> so ill need to fix my MBR?
[05:25] <jen> well i just installed a virtualbox
[05:25] <urlin2u> a111, yeah just one command from the install or recovery disc for W7.
[05:26] <jen> well wait
[05:26] <jen> when I shut the lid it goes to a black screen
[05:26] <mattgyver> jen, okay
[05:26] <jen> it wont come out of suspend
[05:26] <a111> Im installing Debian over the ubuntu install i had GRUB installed for, I didnt make a seppeaate /boot or /home partition. fml.
[05:26] <mattgyver> jen, i have that same problem with that and hibernate.  In my experience ive never seen a laptop properly support either, in my experiences.
[05:27] <urlin2u> a11, it is not a wubi that now goes to grub is it?
[05:27] <jen> oki doki
[05:27] <jen> well it was working for a while...
[05:27] <a111> Nah, i installed it from disk urlin2u
[05:27] <a111> not from within iwndows
[05:27] <mattgyver> jen, its really hard to say and to fix it goes pretty deep from what ive looked at
[05:27] <urlin2u> a111, easy fix if you have the mentioned discs.
[05:28] <jen> ok
[05:28] <mattgyver> jen, mine is like, half and half.  hibernate never works, but sleep sometimes does.
[05:28] <a111> Im just installing debain anyway, so ill just reconfigure it i suppose
[05:28] <jen> ok
[05:28] <hack27_> tar: Unexpected EOF in archive tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[05:29] <hack27_> wats the problem?
[05:29] <mattgyver> hack27_, corrupt downoad?
[05:29] <mattgyver> anyway to verify the md5sum?
[05:30] <bug2000> Can anyone please help me with ipblock/iplist?
[05:30] <hack27_> wats up
[05:31] <bug2000> It seems like it kills all outgoing connections after a while.
[05:31] <lauratika> hello every one, how can i read a external HD hfs (mac) on ubuntu? ithink my external just died.
[05:31] <bug2000> Not only the ones in the filter list.
[05:31] <theadmin> lauratika: There is hfsprogs
[05:32] <theadmin> lauratika: If it's not preinstalled apt-get it
[05:32] <hack27_> u check the network setting
[05:32] <hack27_> in ipblock
[05:32] <Pat201> can someone give me a basic idea of what a shell script is?
[05:32] <mattgyver> lauratika, shot in the dark, but you could likely plug it and mount it manually, mount -t hfs /dev/<location>
[05:33] <lauratika> theadmin: thanx...does this works even if is dead...on mac wont be recognized?
[05:33] <mattgyver> Pat201, a shell script is a series of commands that perform a specific action (or many).
[05:33] <theadmin> lauratika: I don't think it'd work
[05:33] <lauratika> mattgyver: by location you mean?
[05:34] <mattgyver> lauratika, an easy test might be just plug it in, and do a sudo fdisk -l
[05:34] <mattgyver> if you see a new device in the list, then its not a power fault.  If you dont, it could be.  If you do see it, try to mount it.
[05:35] <mattgyver> lauratika, so i guess i should say, do;sudo fdisk -l  - then plug it in - and run the command again.
[05:35] <fornowiamhere> lauratika, can you see it in bios?
[05:36] <lauratika> nope
[05:36] <lauratika> fornowiamhere
[05:37] <fornowiamhere> then... I hope you didn't had something really important on it...
[05:38] <gokul> hi all
[05:38] <lauratika> fornowiamhere well just pix and music but still... was my back up  :'(
[05:39] <gokul> any one tell me channel name of linux
[05:39] <theadmin> gokul: ##linux ?
[05:40] <fornowiamhere> if you cannot see it in bios the is really bad.. There might be another way: remove the hdd from its case and connect it directlly to the pc (sata)
[05:40] <ru6yxx> I managed to save a HD that wasn't powering up once, after some liquid damage
[05:40] <gokul> anyone help me i forget my netgear login password for wifi....
[05:41] <ru6yxx> I took it apart and connected to a SATA  drive on my desktop
[05:41] <mattgyver> gokul, hold down the reset button on your router ;D
[05:41] <mattgyver> fixes all problems.
[05:41] <mattgyver> gokul, make sure you figure out what your default admin username and password are for your brand router first though
[05:41] <gokul> thankz mattgyver
[05:42] <urlin2u> lauratika, if you can get the HD to show you might try this for recovery. http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[05:42] <ru6yxx> I managed to copy all the files over
[05:42] <gokul> actualy i forget my default user name and password
[05:42] <gokul> 07 of my router
[05:43] <mattgyver> gokul, you only need it so you can get back in and enable your wifi or other custom settings (if necessary)
[05:44] <gokul> thanks bro
[05:44] <sravanje> hai
[05:45] <superman097> test
[05:45] <lauratika> can i intsall daul partition ubunut/mac
[05:45] <mattgyver> test failed, press any key to continue
[05:45] <superman097> i want to ask, why i failed when installing libreoffice on my ubuntu lucid? --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/663970/
[05:45] <gokul> anyone tell me i want to increse my skills in hacking anyone suggest me the network or channel name
[05:45] <sravanje> plz tell me anybody iam unable to download some packages
[05:46] <ru6yxx> You will usually find that what is inside the External HD shell  is just an ordinary SATA drive, so you can still recover stuff by plugging it into a motherboard directly
[05:46] <mattgyver> superman097, did you try installing libreoffice-core ?
[05:46] <sravanje> it is saying error or unable to fetch
[05:47] <airtonix> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW0356brnrE
[05:47] <airtonix> woops
[05:47] <airtonix> :<
[05:47] <FloodBot1> airtonix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:47] <mattgyver> superman097, actually do you have open office installed currently?
[05:47] <gokul> anyone tell me i want to increse my skills in hacking anyone suggest me the network or channel name
[05:47] <mattgyver> sravanje, what package are you trying to install?
[05:48] <superman097> @mattgyver yes openoffice installed curently
[05:48] <superman097> so better i removed first? isn't it?
[05:48] <mattgyver> superman097, im pretty confident you need to remove openoffice prior to upgrading to libreoffice
[05:48] <KM0201> gokul: if you try going to a true "hacker" channel, you're gonna get "powned".. i'd suggest googling.
[05:49] <superman097> ok matt i'll try first, thx  for u'r suggest
[05:49] <fornowiamhere> gokul, you needed help recovering yor password for your router and now you want to improve your hacking skills?
[05:49] <sravanje> mattgyver: i tried first update manager it is saying the server is not ready or check network connection or hardware support
[05:49] <gokul> thaks buddy.....what is "powned"
[05:50] <KM0201> gokul: lol, seriously?
[05:50] <mattgyver> sravanje, can you try to install from the command prompt and pastebin the output?
[05:50] <gokul> yeah i have a both question in my mind bro.....but my first problem is that i want to treciver my password frm the router
[05:51] <sravanje> i tried but it is not supporting presently i am in 8.10 version
[05:51] <sravanje> i want to upgrade to newer version
[05:51] <mattgyver> sravanje, so you are trying to upgrade your entire OS then correct?
[05:52] <sravanje> it is not giving option like upgrade
[05:52] <sravanje> yes i want to upgrade entire os
[05:52] <mattgyver> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist upgrade
[05:52] <mattgyver> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:52] <sravanje> i tried them alsop
[05:53] <mattgyver> ok
[05:53] <KM0201> sravanje: what version of ubuntu are you using right now?
[05:53] <gokul> seriously i don t knw what is powned.....
[05:53] <sravanje> 8.10
[05:53] <KM0201> sraue: that is WELL past end of life, you won't be able to upgrade it "normally"
[05:53] <KM0201> !eolupgrade | sraue
[05:53] <mattgyver> gokul, its a term that means "owned" generally speaking - being hacked
[05:53] <KM0201> hmmm
[05:53] <KM0201> !eol | sraue
[05:54] <Myrtti> !eol | sravanje
[05:54] <KM0201> dang.. sravanje see above
[05:54] <KM0201> lol
[05:54] <KM0201> Myrtti: caught me sleeping on bot commands.. :)
[05:58] <sravanje> it is saying 404 not found unable to fetch
[05:59] <ru6yxx> gokul: if your router is any good you won't be able to hack it without the manual ....but you could look under it the default settings maybe there
[06:00] <sravanje> iled to fetch http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/hardy-seveas/freenx/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[06:00] <sravanje> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/maindeb-src/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[06:00] <sravanje> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[06:00] <sravanje> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/jaunty/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[06:00] <sravanje> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/c-korn/vlc/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[06:00] <FloodBot1> sravanje: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:00] <gokul> i have a netgear......
[06:01] <ru6yxx> look under the router then
[06:02] <fructose> I'm doing a file transfer right now to a Windows 7 machine on my network and it's only getting 300 KB/sec. Both systems can download far faster from the Internet. Any idea what might be going on?
[06:02] <fructose> Are there settings I can check in Samba or anything?
[06:04] <rajasingh> hi
[06:05] <MrSalt> exit
[06:06] <danaka> howdy
[06:07] <SHVELO> howdy pardner
[06:08] <danaka> So, I'm running an Asus netbook 1005HA and am planning to install ubuntu. I was wondering if there would be a noticeable speed increase if i were to install xubuntu rather than the regular ubuntu
[06:09] <SHVELO> danaka: i think so
[06:10] <danaka> SHVELO: what would you recommend? xubuntu or lubuntu?
[06:10] <mattgyver> danaka, I would say the machine meet the minimum requirements just go with ubuntu, otherwise yeah go with xubuntu
[06:12] <fructose> Anyone know how Ubuntu does file transfers? In 11.04 I guess samba isn't installed by default, it seems
[06:13] <ru6yxx> I have a triple boot system but I can't get startup manager to start up the other OS's automatically, so I have to do it manually every time from  the GRUB boot screen
[06:13] <mattgyver> ru6yxx, thats kinda how it works, you pick one as your default (automatic) or select another manually
[06:14] <mattgyver> fructose, I am not sure the transfer is related to samba as ive never run into any issues myself.  Is it possible the network has a high load on it right now or an old or bad card?
[06:14] <WRAz> bleh so my compizconfig just blew away my entire UI... is there a hotkey or anything to log off with?
[06:14] <edris> hello friend
[06:15] <fructose> mattgyver: Nope, it's a home network with 2 computers less than a year old
[06:15] <edris> adakah orang indonesia di sini
[06:15] <WRAz> restart it is >.>
[06:15] <fructose> mattgyver: Both can download at full speed externally, which is 7mbps
[06:15] <ru6yxx> mattgyver: what I mean is that if I point at Windows to start automatically, using startup manager, the Grub boot ignores me and continues starting up Ubuntu
[06:16] <glebihan> ru6yxx, if I understand, you would like grub to remember your last choice ?
[06:17] <mattgyver> fructose, yeah that is kinda strange.  Though, even if samba could throttle it would likely be something not configured out of the box.
[06:17] <glebihan> ru6yxx, or do you only want to change the default boot system ?
[06:17] <ru6yxx> glebihan: Yes and startup manager doesn't seem to save my settings.
[06:17] <fructose> mattgyver: Well, I just installed the 'samba' package, so I'm not even sure how things were being sent before
[06:18] <glebihan> ru6yxx, startupmanager doesn't work with grub2
[06:18] <ru6yxx> oh! but it used to on 10.10
[06:18] <mattgyver> fructose, ubuntu has ntfs support installed with ntfsprogs so i imagine thats how
[06:18] <glebihan> ru6yxx, edit /etc/default/grub, add the lines "GRUB_DEFAULT=saved" and "GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true" then run "sudo update-grub"
[06:19] <ru6yxx> ok thanks
[06:19] <mattgyver> fructose, actually theres also a package related with nautilus, i cant remember what its called though for sharing that it uses
[06:20] <fructose> mattgyver: I'm not sure what you mean. NTFS is a filesystem
[06:20] <SHVELO> ru6yxx: use super boot manager
[06:20] <glebihan> fructose, the "samba" package is used to run a samba server, not to access a windows network
[06:21] <fructose> glebihan: Ah, right. Do you know what service would be used to access the windows network? I'd like to restart it
[06:21] <ru6yxx> SHVELO: Thanks, I'll read up on it
[06:22] <glebihan> fructose, I think it's "smbd", but I'm not sure, haven't used samba for some time now
[06:22] <fructose> glebihan: I was under the impression smbd was samba
[06:22] <fructose> glebihan: And part of the samba package
[06:23] <KM0201> yes, it's smbd
[06:23] <KM0201> sudo service smbd stop/start
[06:23] <mattgyver> fructose, actually theres also a package related with nautilus, i cant remember what its called though for sharing that it uses
[06:23] <mattgyver> bah, sorry
[06:24] <glebihan> fructose, you're right, smbd is part of the samba package and is only used by the server
[06:25] <mattgyver> fructose, what i meant to say: smbd is samba server, and part of samba.  I think linux natively sees NTFS filesystems but just cant read/write to them and sees them as unknown types, ntfsprogs allows read/write
[06:25] <mattgyver> fructose, so the only "network" service would probably be network manager in this case, /etc/init.d/network-manager
[06:26] <fructose> Ugg. I don't want to restart that
[06:26] <mattgyver> but, it could also be a problem on the other end too with the win7 box, hard to say so you might need to restart the tcp/ip stack on that
[06:26] <fructose> Kinda doubt it. In my experience it's always been the Linux end of things screwing up :-)
[06:27] <mattgyver> fructose, might sound dumb but how are you copying the file, (ie: nautilus, cp?)
[06:27] <fructose> matt1s: Nautilus, yeah
[06:27] <fructose> err, mattgyver
[06:28] <me-1> hi...is there any way i can install safari in ubuntu 10.04
[06:28] <mattgyver> me-1, maybe in wine but I havent seen a linux package
[06:29] <mattgyver> fructose, hmm, not really sure tbh.  Crazy things happen when windows and linux throw a party
[06:29] <gokul> what is unix....it is a os
[06:30] <mattgyver> fructose, Theres really no way to throttle a dl/upload though unless your using wget or some third party utility that I know of
[06:30] <shannon> Anyone that uses netflix? After installing Ubuntu 11 no extras, netflix played movies just fine. I'm thinking there was an update or something and it no longer will play. Says I need windows. This just started a couple weeks or so ago. Anyone got an answer for me on this one. Looking online all i get is netflix has not worked on linux but they are working on it...
[06:30] <mattgyver> or maybe iptables
[06:30] <fructose> Just going to try a network restart for now...
[06:31] <fructose> test
[06:31] <fructose> Am I still here?
[06:32] <fructose> Guess so. Editing my smb.conf and /etc/init.d/networking restart took me from 200 KB/sec to 900 KB/sec
[06:32] <airtonix> no
[06:32] <fructose> So definitely samba
[06:33] <fructose> Still pretty damn slow though for a local network
[06:33] <Morrison> hi
[06:33] <mattgyver> fructose, what change did you make to your smb.conf?
[06:34] <fructose> socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192
[06:35] <mattgyver> fructose, good find
[06:36] <airtonix> fructose: you should try samba4
[06:36] <airtonix> or at least try the recently updated samba 3
[06:37] <Nicolus> how to get the user name?
[06:37] <fructose> airtonix: I'm still confused about which of these are servers and which are going to connect me to a Windows Network
[06:37] <Nicolus> doing hostname gives me the host name but whats the command for username ?
[06:37] <airtonix> fructose: samba is always a server ...
[06:38] <airtonix> fructose: any windows/linux machine that partakes in ServerMessageBlock filesharing is both a client and a server.
[06:38] <pratz> hey guys i have installed skype 2.2 on ubunut 10.04 ,but i can not listen to my own voice, some thing is wrong with mics settings ??
[06:38] <pratz> any help is appreicated, its urgent
[06:38] <airtonix> fructose: sudo service smbd restart <--- restarts the component that connects and serves your files to the network
[06:39] <pratz> the audio input is not working with skype
[06:39] <airtonix> fructose: sudo service nmbd restart <-- restarts the component that handles WINS resolution (share names, computer names etc)
[06:41] <pratz> any help on that guys ??
[06:47] <zabomber> hey guys. im settin gup free ubuntu shell accounts online. email me at: zabomber@gmail.com if you interested
[06:49] <DKDude36> well hello ubuntu world!
[06:49] <licwin> привет вс ем
[06:50] <glebihan> !ru | licwin
[06:50] <DKDude36> does anybody here kno much about installing ubuntu on a late 2009 iMac?
[06:50] <DKDude36> i'm having problems
[06:51] <DKDude36> nobody can help?
[06:51] <DKDude36> am i on too late>
[06:51] <DKDude36> *?
[06:51] <zabomber> im here
[06:51] <zabomber> ...
[06:51] <DKDude36> well hi
[06:51] <zabomber> hi
[06:51] <zabomber> ;)
[06:51] <DKDude36> [yawn]
[06:52] <DKDude36> yeah so do u kno anything about getting ubuntu up on macs?
[06:52] <zabomber> DKDude36: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[06:52] <ilea> can somebody tell me a good program that is similar to strong dc?
[06:52] <DKDude36> zabomber: thanks for the link. i s there any one similar for iMacs? i've tried just typing in iMac instead of macbook but that fails
[06:53] <zabomber> let me have a look
[06:53] <DKDude36> i'll take a second look sa s well
[06:53] <clean> hi, friends, I have a problem with GNU screen and vim over the ssh session, every time I exit from vim, the screen is cleared automatically, anybody knows how to solve this? thanks
[06:54] <zabomber> DKDude36: http://www.nuketown.com/node/2316
[06:54] <DKDude36> oh lol thanks
[06:54] <zabomber> DKDude36: http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f64/solved-ubuntu-10-10-live-cd-results-in-a-blank-screen-on-imac-g3-400-mhz-577052.html
[06:54] <DKDude36> oooh g3 that'll be totally different than any intel mac
[06:54] <DKDude36> thanks for the link but i don't think that'll work
[06:55] <zabomber> sorry bud...
[06:55] <DKDude36> thanks for trying
[06:55] <DKDude36> very helpful
[06:55] <zabomber> i run MacOSX as my work platform and Ubuntu as my stuff around platform
[06:56] <DKDude36> have u heard of a situation before where i can boot into the live cd, and get to the low-res black screen where u can select install or whatever, and select install, and get nowhere from there?
[06:56] <JarrodM> I think that's pretty much my problem right now :(
[06:56] <DKDude36> JarrodM: sucks right
[06:56] <zabomber> nope... you've just tweaked my interest... i have a 2010 MacBook Pro and if i could get ubuntu working on it... jusis... i'd be stoked! Is it possible?
[06:57] <DKDude36> why oh why does apple need to be such overlords?
[06:57] <JarrodM> unable to open /dev/sda/       -> chroot: can't execute mktemp : Input/output Error
[06:57] <DaZ> it's an intel platform afaik, so why not :x
[06:57] <DKDude36> idk it's all uncooperating
[06:57] <DKDude36> no error messages or anything
[06:58] <DKDude36> just an endlessly jumping disk
[06:59] <ArtVanda1ae> Hi all. Everyone once in a while sound stops working for me. I restart the computer and it starts working. So I've concluded that it's a software issue. I want to find out how I can get sound back without restarting my computer. I have restarted pulseaudio (pulseaudio -k) and the process is respawned, but still no sound. I try to redirect or pipe to both /dev/dsp and pacat and I get no static. What can I try next?
[06:59] <ArtVanda1ae> s/Everyone/every
[07:00] <DKDude36> lol this is making me feel like 'just another guy that came in begging for help' lol
[07:00] <JarrodM> Don't worry, you're not alone :P
[07:01] <DKDude36> i might just post on ubuntuforums.com
[07:02] <DKDude36> nvm it's a .org
[07:04] <lsv> DKDude36: what was your question?
[07:04] <DKDude36> lsv: having problems getting it to boot on late 09 imac
[07:04] <DKDude36> get to that low res black screen where u can choose to preview or install kisk
[07:04] <DKDude36> *disk
[07:04] <DKDude36> i choose install
[07:04] <DKDude36> endlessly whirring disk
[07:05] <DKDude36> black screen
[07:05] <DKDude36> nothgin
[07:05] <FloodBot1> DKDude36: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:05] <DKDude36> lol don't use enter as punctuation… my bad
[07:05] <roko> hi
[07:06] <lsv> DKDude36: I don't use macs, have you tried a diff version of the OS?
[07:06] <DKDude36> i've tired on 10.10 and 11.04
[07:08] <DKDude36> lol the only thing keeping me up right now is mahavishnu orchestra
[07:08] <DKDude36> i love john mclaughlin lol
[07:09] <lsv> DKDude36: and the screen is just black, no error msg?
[07:09] <DKDude36> nothin
[07:09] <DKDude36> g
[07:09] <DKDude36> that's what's so perplexing about the whole thing
[07:09] <urlin2u> DKDude36, to the one
[07:09] <setepenre> how to install something from lucid-backports if on 10.04 lucid? for example, i am trying to install irssi 0.8.15 from lucid-backports but not sure where to start
[07:11] <lsv> DKDude36: I'm some what new, but I would start with this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation
[07:11] <setepenre> nvm, found this http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid-backports/net/irssi
[07:11] <DKDude36> thanks for the link lsv .
[07:12] <lsv> also does it sound like the computer is working (blinking lights, sounds)? np about link.
[07:13] <DKDude36> the disk is whirring and jumping for like 10 mins. that's it
[07:13] <urlin2u> DKDude36, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peOVAQVitr4
[07:14] <DKDude36> thanks urlin2u
[07:14] <DKDude36> oh lol great song
[07:14] <urlin2u> DKDude36, I'm a Jazz musician. ;)
[07:14] <DKDude36> rlly?
[07:14] <DKDude36> what instrument u play?
[07:15] <urlin2u> DKDude36, sax, flute,fretless bass, are the main ones
[07:15] <DKDude36> wow, diverse
[07:15] <DKDude36> i play guitar myself
[07:16] <urlin2u> DKDude36, most are multi-instrumentalist, a reed player should be clarinet and flute at the least.
[07:16] <DKDude36> well, sticking a bass in there is the interesting part
[07:16] <urlin2u> cough Allan Holdsworth. ;)
[07:16] <lsv> DKDude36: I would follow the guide and see if that helps.  I have to sleep now, good night and good luck.
[07:17] <DKDude36> i haven't listened to much of his stuff, but i think he's good
[07:17] <DKDude36> lsv: thanks for the help. i will
[07:17] <DKDude36> i have installed refit before, but it never made any difference. thanks again
[07:17] <Shvelo> Discuss your hobbies in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:19] <urlin2u> DKDude36, Coltrane on the guitar.
[07:19] <Misiex> hi who know what samba error NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME is
[07:19] <Deathspawn> I accidentally the whole setup on this Windows 7 Wubi setup. did msconfig and selected normal boot without looking, now it doesn't have an option for ubuntu. what do i do?
[07:19] <Deathspawn> cant uninstall through wubi either
[07:20] <calwig> hi, how does someone drop a database from mysql?
[07:20] <urlin2u> Deathspawn, go back to the custom boot.
[07:21] <bullgard4_> What DEB program package is the »message of the day« (motd) associated with? (I'd like to report an error to Launchpad.)
[07:21] <Deathspawn> how? ubuntu doesnt show in the os list
[07:21] <Deathspawn> its on selective startup now. but windows 7 is the only thing on there.
[07:22] <urlin2u> Deathspawn, boot,ini shows no ubuntu, not sure really on this I have installed wubi to check it out never looked in msconfig, have you switched back and rebooted to check anyway.
[07:22] <Deathspawn> yea, tried it, just booted straight into windows.
[07:23] <Deathspawn> and i have to configure the stupid thing via safe mode cause otherwise it wont save
[07:24] <urlin2u> Deathspawn, worse case scenario yu can access the wubi in Windows it is a file and sva e what you need and reinstall.
[07:25] <Deathspawn> where would that be?
[07:25] <Deathspawn> sorry, im useless at windows, helping my aunt... :/
[07:25] <JarrodM> Anyone know why an HDD wouldn't be recognised as SDA/SDB?
[07:26] <urlin2u> Deathspawn, you will have to look I haven't looked at the setup in about a year, it's there though. Here is a link but it is not addressing what you have done but may have some clues.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1639198
[07:28] <shinsuke> is it possible to add scripts under gnome menu/system/preferences/startup applications by console? thanks
[07:29] <urlin2u> Deathspawn, here is where wubi is in windows6th line https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_can_I_access_the_Wubi_files_from_Windows.3F
[07:30] <Deathspawn> urlin2u: thanks a bunch, im looking at them. 3am and not going to sleep till this thing works. D:
[07:31] <urlin2u> Deathspawn, wubi help is difficult to get on the ubuntu forums there are only 2 isers that are on daily that help mostly, one is the thread starter.
[07:31] <urlin2u> difficult in general
[07:32] <Deathspawn> yea, if i had the space, id just backup her computer onto mine and wipe out windows... but i don;t
[07:32] <rabbi1> ibus is in startup application, but not loading on startup
[07:32] <Deathspawn> i friggin despise windows, but kinda have to work with it >.<
[07:32] <urlin2u> Deathspawn, you can move the wubi to a partition as a altaernative.
[07:34] <Deathspawn> thought about that... will it mess anything up? ive never really messed with resizing/splitting a partition with data on it
[07:34] <urlin2u> Deathspawn, I was trying to find the page on the UF there is a script to do it, I will keep looking.
[07:35] <WaltherFI> Can't add plugins to Gedit. Tried to add Zen-Coding plugin by adding the folder & file to ~/.gnome2/gedit/plugins and to /usr/lib/gedit/plugins. The plugin is not listed on gedit's plugin list.
[07:36] <Deathspawn> im trying the livedisk method in the second link atm also
[07:36] <WaltherFI> ahh, found the problem. What is the bash file rename command?
[07:36] <WaltherFI> ...simple rename it seems
[07:37] <linux> hi
[07:38] <linux> hello
[07:39] <urlin2u> Deathspawn, I'm assuming this is still working I don't go to the UF anymore myself. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519354
[07:43] <nullkuhl> hello, i have downloaded ubuntu 11.04 at installation screen where the checkmarks for disk space, power source, etc. exist, i press next to go to disk setup, but i get a busy cursor forever.. any idea ? (i had the prev, kubuntu version installed on the same laptop some time ago as well )
[07:43] <chupacabra> forever?
[07:44] <nullkuhl> yes am stuck there busy cursor at the point where it should be showing partitioning table or so
[07:44] <chupacabra> how big is your drive?
[07:44] <nullkuhl> 320 GB and its has only 1 partition now and the rest is free space
[07:45] <chupacabra> wait on it.  how long is forever to you?
[07:46]  * chupacabra remembers 2 gig drives.  almost instantanious
[07:46]  * chupacabra remembers 25 meg drives
[07:47] <nullkuhl> chupacabra: it takes more than 5 minuets
[07:47] <nullkuhl> minutes*
[07:47] <nullkuhl> and still showing busy cursor
[07:47] <nullkuhl> and showing nothing from the screen after checkmarks
[07:47] <chupacabra> not long enough instant grat dude
[07:47] <bluecrysmile> -h
[07:47] <nullkuhl> chupacabra: its not my first time to install ubuntu, it seems like its stuck there,
[07:47] <nullkuhl> bluecrysmile: -h ?
[07:48] <chupacabra> you could use a live cd and make the partitions.
[07:48] <chupacabra> did you verify the image on disk?
[07:48] <bohl> is there a package fur sun java7 jdk yet?
[07:48] <mwaijandeg> any one who knows application which recover lost file due formating of disk in ubuntu please help me
[07:49] <nullkuhl> chupacabra: yes, and i tried a live cd and a live usb
[07:49] <nullkuhl> i dont get to reach the page where the partitioning is done !
[07:49] <bazhang> mwaijandeg, on UE ?
[07:50] <mwaijandeg> bazhang, yes on UE
[07:51] <IdleOne> Ultimate Edition?
[07:51] <bazhang> mwaijandeg, thats not supported here. try their support channels
[07:51] <bazhang> IdleOne, yep
[07:51] <mwaijandeg> CAN U DIRECT ME SUPPORTED CHANNEL?
[07:51] <bazhang> mwaijandeg, no need for caps
[07:52] <bazhang> !alis | mwaijandeg
[07:52] <mwaijandeg> thank u ubottu
[07:52] <chupacabra> darn got trolled
[07:52] <mwaijandeg> thank u bazhang
[07:52] <mwaijandeg> Let me check it out
[07:58] <FOCer> anyone can direct me to the right direction to resize a linux partition live? i have converted a MBR to GPT disk. I have looked at the gdisk options to no avail.
[08:04] <nullkuhl> hello, i have downloaded ubuntu 11.04 at installation screen where the checkmarks for disk space, power source, etc. exist, i press next to go to disk setup, but i get a busy cursor forever.. any idea ? (i had the prev, kubuntu version installed on the same laptop some time ago as well )
[08:08] <wildbat> nullkuhl: try alternate CD
[08:09] <wildbat> FOCer: you can't resize a mounted partiton , and just gparted to resize
[08:11] <nullkuhl> wildbat: any idea if i can run some partitioning tool from the live cd ?
[08:11] <nullkuhl> wildbat: my live cd boots, but i get stuck in the middle of installation before partitioning part.
[08:12] <ru6yxx> A long time ago I used the Knoppix live CDs for partitioning. For some reason I can't remember well now
[08:12] <wildbat> nullkuhl: use try ubuntu option to get it and you can use gprated, etc.....
[08:13] <wildbat> !ot | ru6yxx:
[08:13] <nullkuhl> wildbat: i opened kde partition manager, i think i get the problem it is showing me my old partitions structure, and i have just changed this partition using windows 7 cd, apparently my partition table isnt synced or something like that, any idea how to fix this ?
[08:13] <Deathspawn> urlin2u: found this: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/20340/how-to-restore-the-wubi-ubuntu-bootloader/ Downloaded an older version of the program (old versions are free, heh.), and it worked perfectly. :D
[08:14] <wildbat> nullkuhl: repartiton it ?
[08:14] <nullkuhl> wildbat: other than that as i dont want to lose my data :)
[08:15] <wildbat> nullkuhl: y u wanna use GPT... windows don't like them....
[08:15] <nullkuhl> GPT ?
[08:16] <wildbat> nullkuhl: oh sorry mixed up :>
[08:17] <FOCer> umount the partition or reboot the server won't be an option, it is my understanding that GPT should allow resize of partition live
[08:17] <wildbat> nullkuhl: try gparted.
[08:17] <nullkuhl> wildbat: based on partprobe now, i get that i had a GPT table deleted it and am using msdos table now, and thats quite true.. but the gpt table seems not to be cleanly deleted
[08:17] <nullkuhl> so any idea how to delete the gpt table proprely
[08:19] <urlin2u> Deathspawn, I wondered about easybcd good job. ;)
[08:20] <wildbat> nullkuhl:  testdisk and try to fix mbr may be
[08:24] <nullkuhl> wildbat: i think it was labeled a guid and i should change it to mbr
[08:24] <nullkuhl> not sure how though
[08:25] <wildbat> nullkuhl: pick intel in testdisk ~ have it scan all the partition and rewrite the Partition table.
[08:26] <wh1zz0> i guys..
[08:26] <wh1zz0> Hi..
[08:26] <wh1zz0> Anyone home?
[08:29]  * wildbat don
[08:30]  * wildbat don't have a home :>
[08:30] <wh1zz0> I'm trying to use ubuntu one music to purchase some songs and have them backed up. I just installed rhythm box but on the left pane all I see is jamendo and magnatune
[08:30] <wh1zz0> wildbat.. lol..
[08:30] <AlexDevilLX> how to install awesome
[08:31] <movan2011> @whizz have you installed the ubuntu one store plugin for rhythmbox?
[08:31] <wh1zz0> Ouch... can't find the plugin
[08:31] <movan2011> @whizz.  Go into synaptic and search for ubuntuone rhythmbox
[08:31] <wh1zz0> Okie.. thanks movan2011
[08:32] <movan2011> Or type "sudo apt-get install rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store" in a terminal
[08:33] <psypher246> hello all, does anyone here ever use empathy for msn chats, if so do you also find it absolutely horrible, unreliable, can't add new friends, messages go missing and never arrive, randomly. I don't get how this app can be the default in ubuntu when it's THIS bad. Even now while typing this message the chat client is jumping all over the place cos it does not line rap what i am typing???
[08:33] <hiexpo> psypher246, use pidgin
[08:33] <psypher246> thats what everyone keeps saying
[08:33] <wh1zz0> movan2011: Found! thanks a bunch!
[08:33] <psypher246> WHY DEFAULT then?
[08:34] <psypher246> ludicrous
[08:35] <jpds> psypher246: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EmpathyVsPidginUsability
[08:37] <nullkuhl> wildbat: scanning now with testdisk, at first scan it read the wrong table agian, but with deeper scan, it the one correctly
[08:37] <nullkuhl> how to write the results to partition table ?
[08:37] <ru6yxx> If I want to install a private cloud server at home will i need an http://mysite.com type address to log in to or can i somehow connect via my router?
[08:38] <flametai1> Does anyone know of a SplitCam/ManyCam program but for Linux?
[08:38] <llutz_> ru6yxx: if you are on dialup, get a dyndns account to access
[08:39] <ru6yxx> ok
[08:41] <jpds> ru6yxx: I think cloud technologies like OpenStack depend on valid forward and reverse DNS for all hosts.
[08:41] <jpds> ru6yxx: But you're better off asking in #ubuntu-server .
[08:41] <ru6yxx> ok thanx
[08:41] <koshieFinalReliz> Hi everyone
[08:43] <koshieFinalReliz> Actually I've two screens, my 15" on my laptop and a new of 24", when I connect the new on the laptop (VGA) I can't have the 15" on the left of the 24", just a clone or nothing. An idea ? I'm using Ubuntu 10.04.3. Thanks.
[08:47] <kurtp> Hi guys, Got some minute to answer this noob question?
[08:47] <larryone> SURE
[08:48] <larryone> stupid caps
[08:48] <larryone> i may have seemed to be overly enthusiastic there
[08:49] <llutz_> larryone: "setxkbmap -option ctrl:nocaps"
[08:49] <kurtp> I can't seem to login on my GUI, but can login on terminal using recovery mode. After I entered my pass on GUI, the screen will be blank in couple of seconds and then will be back on login screen.
[08:49] <kurtp> larryone: hahaha Have you encountered this problem?
[08:50] <kurtp> btw, I'm using 10.10 maveric
[08:50] <llutz_> kurtp: filesystems full?check using "df -h"
[08:51] <rabbi1> unable to mount external hard disk ......... :(
[08:51] <kurtp> llutz: nope, it's not full. already checked it.
[08:51] <larryone> so something is causing wither the gnome-session or X to fail
[08:51] <larryone> s/with/eith
[08:52] <psypher246> switched to pidgin now,  cannot take empathy's uselessness anymore, does anyone know how i can make pidgin defualt in the messaging menu, so when i click chat it opens pidgin, google not helping
[08:52] <llutz_> kurtp: "ls -ld /tmp"
[08:52] <cheater> hi
[08:52] <cheater> can someone go to the terminal, do "echo $DISPLAY", and tell me what they get?
[08:52] <salamcik> just installed an android emulator with whatsapp. NO MORE PHONES!
[08:52] <kurtp> My suspect is the theme macbuntu. I think
[08:52] <salamcik> i hate carrying around a phone
[08:52] <llutz_>  Do you have any ubuntu support related question? salamcik
[08:53] <bobobob> I am trhello, I am trying to cp ~/abc/def/ghi.file to /somewhere/lol, and the result being /somewhere/lol/abc/def/ghi.file - that is, I want to copy a single file, relative to the point I am at (~) and auto create the folders it needs to have the same structure
[08:53] <bobobob> this is because I don't want to copy all the files that exist there, just about 50% (which I have in a script)
[08:53] <psypher246> salamcik: do you not need a sim card for whatsapp to work?
[08:53] <salamcik> llutz_ just wanted to say that its possible in ubuntu 11.04 that is all
[08:53] <kurtp> llutz: I will try, I will reboot now. I have dual boot. It's weird.
[08:54] <salamcik> llutz_ also i needed to share my joy with the world is that so wrong?
[08:54] <llutz_> salamcik: simple thing, its offtopic here
[08:54] <salamcik> :<
[08:56] <llutz_> bobobob: use rsync, not cp for that
[08:56] <rabbi11> 10.04 unable to mount my external hdd (seagate_
[08:57] <bobobob> oh, yeah. you think? so, I have 100 files, and I have a list, on each line, of 50 files I want to move out. so I can run an rsync on one file?
[08:58] <bobobob> llutz_: will I need a lot of setup, like setup an rsync root?
[08:58] <bobobob> or can it be run as a single file? I am googling,
[08:58] <larryone> bobobob, cp -a might do it
[08:59] <larryone> ooh
[08:59] <bobobob> hrm, lemme see cp -a
[08:59] <larryone> does -a actually create necessary path
[08:59] <llutz_> bobobob: use rsync -au    and it should only copy those files not existing on target
[08:59] <larryone> i cant rememeber
[09:00] <llutz_> (or replace older ones)
[09:00] <bobobob> yeah, I could... cp with a destination file (but it only supports a directory right?)
[09:00] <bobobob> oh it supports target file...
[09:01] <nstridesout_> h
[09:01] <Cradam> hi is their a way to make ubuntu rescan the available monitor resolutions?
[09:01] <driller_> bobobob: what are you trying to accomplish with rsync?
[09:02] <bobobob> driller_: not, trying to copy from ~/, run cp a/b/c/file to /tmp and end up with /tmp/a/b/c/file, so needs like cp -c, create, but my cp doesn't have that (says qnx)
[09:02] <bobobob> so, how to automatically create necessary directory, I guess I can do a mkdir -r
[09:03] <bobobob> or something, in the command, like
[09:03] <cradam_> back
[09:03] <cradam_> is their a way?
[09:03] <bobobob> mkdir -r /tmp/a/b/c;cp ~/a/b/c/file /tmp/a/b/c/file
[09:03] <cradam_> i dont fancy a reboot
[09:03] <driller_> bobobob: mkdir -p directories/to/create/a/b/c
[09:03] <bobobob> mkdir -r /tmp/a/b/c;cp ~/a/b/c/file /tmp/a/b/c should work too
[09:04] <bobobob> -p, ay, ok, solved. shame cp can't create directories
[09:04] <bobobob> thanks
[09:04] <driller_> yw
[09:04] <cradam_> bobobob: tar then cp the untar
[09:04] <cradam_> *then
[09:04] <rabbi11> friends, for unmounting ntfs partion problems read: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1333205.html
[09:04] <llutz_> bobobob: cp --parents
[09:05] <driller_> bobobob: you can also use cp -R
[09:06] <driller_> (or if copying to remote; rsync -av should preserve your directory/file structure)
[09:07] <llutz_> bobobob: "cp --parents a/b/c/file  /tmp"  does exactly what you want
[09:07] <phoque> I always use rsync -av --delete <here> <there>
[09:07] <cradam_> anyway to scan the available monitor resolutions, i dont fancy rebooting just for this
[09:07] <phoque> that way it'll delete files on the other end that have been removed inbetween two rsync's
[09:08] <cradam_> phoque: but that would be the actions of mv not cp
[09:08] <phoque> cradam_, indeed. Don't know what he wanted, hence the explanation :-)
[09:09] <kedare_ifr> Hi all :)
[09:09] <kedare_ifr> I have a little problem with my Ubuntu, my numeric pad don't works anymore (even with num lock enabled), when I use it, it moves my mouse cursor...
[09:10] <gogeta> bo
[09:10] <gogeta> kedare_ifr: you must have thatnooption checked
[09:10] <gogeta> kedare_ifr: to use the keybord as a virtual mouse
[09:12] <kedare_ifr> gogeta, how can I disable this ?
[09:12] <gogeta> kedare_ifr: in the keybord settings
[09:13] <kedare_ifr> gogeta, Thank you, that was that ! :)
[09:13] <kurtp> llutz: what will I type if I will restore the themes on ubuntu to it's default?
[09:13] <gogeta> ;-)
[09:14] <llutz_> krups: idk, sry
[09:14] <llutz_> kurtp: ^^
[09:14] <kurtp> anyone knows how to restore the default theme on ubuntu?
[09:14] <kurtp> llutz: ^^
[09:14] <phoque> kurtp, at login
[09:15] <phoque> click your name, then select "Ubuntu Classic" at the bottom of the screen
[09:15] <phoque> it'll remember your setting so you'll only have to do once
[09:15] <llutz_> that selects session/wm, not a theme
[09:15] <gogeta> phoque: thats not a heme that just gnome 2
[09:16] <phoque> yeah, I understood "restore default theme" like "give me Maverick-style back"
[09:16] <kurtp> phoque: yes, like that. ^^
[09:16] <bobweaver> can you see this ??
[09:16] <phoque> llutz_, gogeta, see? :-D
[09:16] <gogeta> llutz_: yea hes correct
[09:16] <Cradam> ubuntu theme didnt work for m when i upgraded from 10.10
[09:17] <Cradam> probably because of all the WM's i had installed
[09:17] <gogeta> Cradam: uity fail]
[09:17] <Cradam> im really glad i had xfce installed
[09:17]  * gogeta is a xfce user
[09:18] <Cradam> the only one working properly
[09:27] <JakeR003> is there a way to lock ubuntu system configurations from being changed?
[09:27] <sam555> hello all!
[09:27] <JakeR003> hi
[09:28] <sam555> after running fsck on my hard drive, where do I find the results?
[09:28] <Shvelo> hi
[09:28] <nitram147> hallo
[09:29] <Shvelo> Is there a way to build linux apps on windows?
[09:29] <nitram147> i don't know
[09:32] <koshie_> Actually I've two screens, my 15" on my laptop and a new of 24", when I connect the new on the laptop (VGA) I can't have the 15" on the left of the 24", just a clone or nothing. An idea ? I'm using Ubuntu 10.04.3. Thanks.
[09:34] <Cradam> koshie_: do you have an ATI card?
[09:35] <koshie_> Cradam, Intel
[09:35] <Cradam> my fix wouldnt work then
[09:35] <koshie_> Cradam, damn :)
[09:35] <koshie_> thanks.
[09:35] <Cradam> i am using an intel, i just turned my laptops screen off
[09:36] <JakeR003> Cradam cool
[09:36] <koshie_> Cradam, yes but it's better with two screens :D
[09:37] <koshie_> And on KDE I can do that.
[09:37] <koshie_> (4.4.5)
[09:37] <Cradam> switch to kde then :P
[09:37] <koshie_> :D
[09:37] <sandric> hi
[09:37] <koshie_> I'm upgrading my 10.04.3 to 10.10 and finally to 11.04 (for Unity)
[09:37] <koshie_> I will see with it.
[09:37] <sandric> is anyone knows, '?' in ps command output means daemon?
[09:37] <Cradam> i would suggest a fresh install of 11.04 koshie_
[09:38] <koshie_> Cradam, it's not a problem because I will buy an other PC, it's just for see if the upgrading are really dangerous / not clean
[09:38] <koshie_> Just for fun.
[09:39] <sandric> ololo
[09:39] <sandric> is anyone knows, '?' in ps command output means daemon?
[09:40] <X0Rc0re> can someone tell me how you would modify the fw of this chip: SAMSUNG 825 K9F5608U0D PIBO ?
[09:40] <danaka> okay. so I just installed 11.04 and it's VERY unstable, hard locks quite often when under load.  i looked in my system manager and it's reporting info on 2 cores. I only have one. how can I mend this?
[09:41] <JakeR003> danaka must be hardware problem
[09:41] <danaka> drivers?
[09:41] <JakeR003> yeah drivers but i think stability of your hardware
[09:41] <JakeR003> CPU, RAM, PSU
[09:42] <JakeR003> like overheating problems
[09:42] <JakeR003> bad power supply unit
[09:42] <JakeR003> bad RAM
[09:42] <danaka> memtest?
[09:42] <llutz_> sanchaz: those are processes without an control-terminal (running detached in background), some are daemons
[09:43] <danaka> don't you think ubuntu recognizing it as 2 cpus would make it unstable under load?
[09:43] <llutz_> sandric: ^^ sry wrong nick
[09:43] <JakeR003> because we are in 2011 and they extensively test the sotware before releasing it to the public
[09:43] <elis> rumba havana
[09:43] <JakeR003> danaka that's a start
[09:43] <Cradam> koshie_: found something for you
[09:43] <rumba> elitess: lol, i didn't even know about that
[09:43] <JakeR003> danaka i ran ubuntu on two PCs. 1 quad cores i7 & the other quad core i5... zero problems
[09:43] <JakeR003> both new system less than a year old
[09:44] <JakeR003> so check your hardware for stability problems
[09:44] <danaka> okay, so there's no core count modifier that i could hop into and change a number in?
[09:45] <llutz_> danaka: grep "model name" /proc/cpuinfo
[09:46] <danaka> its shows 2 intel atoms
[09:46] <llutz_> danaka: HT counts as cores
[09:46] <danaka> but i don't have a dual core
[09:46] <danaka> llutz_: what is HT?
[09:47] <llutz_> danaka: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N280   here, also 2 cores reported. hyperthreading-technology
[09:47] <llutz_> virtual dual-core
[09:47] <danaka> ooh okay
[09:47] <JakeR003> a netbook?
[09:47] <danaka> yeah
[09:47] <danaka> 1005ha asus
[09:47] <llutz_> danaka: so all ok, nothing to worry
[09:47] <danaka> thanks llutz_
[09:48] <JakeR003> ok then your problem is something els. maybe hyperthreading?
[09:48] <sandric> am i invisible77
[09:48] <sandric> bul-bul
[09:48] <danaka> im going to update bios and start doing stability tests
[09:48] <danaka> thanks guys
[09:49] <shantanu> hi all, need help on installing nvidia driver
[09:49] <shantanu> error ocurring 'you don't have libc header installed'
[09:49] <gogeta> llutz_: what abought the n280
[09:50] <gogeta> llutz_: it also has 64bit emu even thow it not
[09:50] <llutz_> shantanu: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:50] <shantanu> already did that
[09:50] <llutz_> gogeta: nothing, just an explanation why single core-cpu is reported as dual-core
[09:50] <gogeta> llutz_: ah
[09:51] <llutz_> shantanu: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:51] <gogeta> llutz_: n280 is win still used in very small single core devices
[09:53] <shantanu> returned 'already in newest version'
[09:54] <llutz_> shantanu: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libc6-dev
[09:55] <gogeta> llutz_: slow night
[09:55] <allenwu> anybody use fedora
[09:55] <shantanu> libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.7) but 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.8 is to be installed
[09:55] <shantanu> E: Broken packages
[09:55] <bahamas> allenwu: people in #fedora
[09:55] <allenwu> bahamas:TKS
[09:56] <gogeta> allenwu: we might get the the pitchforks and torches hear
[09:56] <gogeta> lol
[09:56] <love4linux> hello everyone... I have an issue with the keyboard and mouse on both of my laptops.. I use a usb keyboard and mouse to do my work but when I remove either one to
[09:56] <love4linux> plug it to the other laptop, the laptop's keyboard or mouse is not working..any ideas how to fix this?
[09:57] <llutz_> shantanu: sudo apt-get update
[09:57] <jonzen> hey, i accidentally deleted my graphic driver in natty.  i am using a livecd to get to here and need to know how i can re-install them on the hard disk.  any suggestions?
[09:57] <llutz_> shantanu: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libc6-dev              getting still the same error?
[09:57] <shantanu> yes
[09:59] <love4linux> can anyone help me or should I ask in the forum?
[09:59] <allenwu> gogeta: I am sorry I can't understand what U said
[10:00] <szal> !patience | love4linux
[10:00] <allenwu> gogeta:I am Chinese
[10:00] <love4linux> : ) patience..the magic word
[10:02] <jonzen> hey, i accidentally deleted my graphic driver in natty.  i am using a livecd from 10.10 to get to here and need to know how i can re-install them on the hard disk.  any suggestions?
[10:03] <jrib> jonzen: easier to just do it from your install (press ctrl-alt-f1 or use recovery mode)
[10:04] <love4linux> I have an issue with the keyboard and mouse on both of my laptops.. I use a usb keyboard and mouse to do my work but when I remove either one to plug it to the other laptop, the laptop's keyboard or mouse is not working..any ideas how to fix this?
[10:05] <jonzen> jrib, cannot get to recovery mode as the graphics turn off before the gui can start up...ctrl-alt-f1 is new...will try that if no other suggestions come.
[10:05] <Majestik> hey can someone hit me with the url for the standard xbuntu image i've updated to Alpha3 and am now stuck in irssi and term lol need to wget then iso so i can make a usb pen to recover
[10:05] <jrib> jonzen: what exactly did you "delete"?
[10:06] <jrib> Majestik: releases.ubuntu.com
[10:06] <szal> Majestik: define 'standard xbuntu image'
[10:06] <theadmin> Majestik: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/natty/release/desktop/xubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso
[10:06] <jonzen> jrib, catalyst and fglrx files
[10:06] <jrib> jonzen: how did you delete them
[10:06] <Majestik> thanks theadmin i guess i can use images.ubuntu.com for the standard d/l
[10:07] <theadmin> Majestik: Ah... I guess
[10:07] <jonzen> jrib, i was troubleshooting problem with going from full screen to windowed mode and having to reboot.
[10:07] <theadmin> Majestik: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/11.04/release/xubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso
[10:08] <jonzen> jrib, used software center and various apt-get-remove commands
[10:08] <jrib> jonzen: use recovery mode, select root shell, there's no gui involved
[10:08] <Majestik> think i'll leave Ubuntu11.10 for awhile thanks taking my trusty machine back to something abit more stable, ubiquity cant pass or mount the hdd to the kernel during install...it tells me this once i've formatted..nice lol
[10:09] <llutz_> !11.10 | Majestik
[10:09] <jonzen> jrib, how do i get to recovery mode? been trying for 30 min and cannot get ANYTHING but bios and dead screen.
[10:09] <jrib> jonzen: at grub menu, select recovery mode
[10:09] <Majestik> jonzen: I believe you need to press Shift these days to get GRUB prompt
[10:10] <jonzen> shift? that is new...during boot-up hit shift?
[10:12] <ubuntu> ja3
[10:12] <Altan> Ubuntu?
[10:12] <Altan> Is it possible to run Ubuntu off parallels with OSX Lion?
[10:13] <Majestik> yes Altan well it works for me with 11.04
[10:13] <Majestik> thats on a 2010 macbook 15"
[10:13] <Altan> How?
[10:13] <Altan> Well I've got a late 2008 macbook
[10:13] <Altan> aluminum
[10:13] <Majestik> at the moment dude i'm stuck in CLI with no X11 lol
[10:14] <Altan> 13"
[10:14] <Altan> o.O
[10:14] <Majestik> if your around in about 30-45mins when i fix this damn thing i'll help you out
[10:14] <Altan> Alright.
[10:14] <Altan> Well I actually don't have Parallels right now
[10:14] <Altan> I was just wondering if it was possible
[10:14] <Altan> :3
[10:20] <dasdasdasd> hello
[10:20] <dasdasdasd> anybody speaks german here?
[10:20] <llutz_> !de
[10:20] <dasdasdasd> or do i need to speak english?
[10:20] <phoque> where can I see if my rc.local is actually being executed?
[10:20] <gry> dasdasdasd: only english here
[10:20] <gry> !de | dasdasdasd, but there is a German channel too
[10:20] <deem> dasdasdasd: der bot hat dir nen channel genannt. such dir einen aus und geh dahin =)
[10:22] <llutz_> !pm | dasdasdasd
[10:22] <dasdasdasd> ok anyway
[10:22] <dasdasdasd> can i ask my question in english then?
[10:22] <llutz_> sure
[10:22] <dasdasdasd> i got ubuntu and i want to get my usb headset to work
[10:23] <Altan> ^I need that bit of information too. OSX Doesn't have the best support for USB based microphones.
[10:23] <dasdasdasd> its called wh-46 wintech
[10:24] <dasdasdasd> i am sorry if thats a stupid question and i cant be that precise
[10:24] <dasdasdasd> but i thought i give a a try
[10:24] <dasdasdasd> it^^
[10:25] <Altan> Got any answers?
[10:25] <Altan> If you don't just tell us/me so I can go look somewhere else.
[10:25] <gry> !wait > Altan
[10:26] <Altan> o.O
[10:26] <szal> patience doesn't seem to be the virtue of choice today ^^
[10:26] <cypha> if there's someone that is good with wmctrl, I would pay for a script
[10:26] <dasdasdasd> ok so actually nobody can help me?
[10:27] <Altan> !wait > dasdasdasd
[10:27] <bazhang> dasdasdasd, with teamspeak? whats the exact nature of your issue
[10:27] <llutz_> phoque: for testing add a line like "logger -t RCLOCAL  -g /var/log/messages success $(date +'%F %H%M')" and check logfile later
[10:27] <dasdasdasd> teampseak
[10:27] <dasdasdasd> you have it?
[10:28] <bazhang> dasdasdasd, just saying usb headset with zero details wont get much help
[10:28] <dasdasdasd> like we talk the problem thgrough?
[10:28] <Altan> xD
[10:28] <dasdasdasd> :D
[10:28] <dasdasdasd> ok which information could i add
[10:28] <dasdasdasd> the headset doesnt work
[10:28] <dasdasdasd> wether in skype
[10:29] <dasdasdasd> or in any test
[10:29] <dasdasdasd> s
[10:29] <bazhang> dasdasdasd, distro version, what app it may or may not be working with, model number, etc
[10:29] <dasdasdasd> the lamps a shining
[10:29] <dasdasdasd> so its actually working
[10:29] <dasdasdasd> after i did this
[10:29] <Altan> I need information kinda similar to that. On OSX while using a USB based microphone/headset, a support issue from Apple often makes me sound 'robotic' using Ventrilo. I was wondering if Ubuntu would fix it. :3
[10:29] <dasdasdasd> http://linuxowns.wordpress.com/2008/07/08/how-i-got-my-usb-headset-to-work/
[10:29] <szal> !enter | dasdasdasd
[10:29] <dasdasdasd> ps: i hope i am allowed to post links ^^
[10:29] <bazhang> dasdasdasd, on a single line please, its very hard to read otherwise
[10:29] <dasdasdasd> it is finally making a noise
[10:30] <dasdasdasd> but u cant here the voice
[10:30] <szal> dasdasdasd: now you're contradicting yourself -> [12:28:58] <dasdasdasd> the headset doesnt work [12:29:27] <dasdasdasd> so its actually working
[10:30] <bazhang> Altan, are you actually using Ubuntu?
[10:30] <Altan> No, I'm on Snow Leopard right now.
[10:30] <szal> Altan: we don't support Mac OSX here
[10:30] <bazhang> Altan, so how does that relate to Ubuntu support in any way shape or form
[10:31] <Altan> I was wondering if there are any similar problems when using Apple hardware with Ubuntu.
[10:31] <szal> Altan: try it & see for yourself, that's what live CDs are for
[10:31] <bazhang> Altan, yet you have no ubuntu install, correct? check launchpad.net for bugs perhaps
[10:31] <Altan> Okay.
[10:32] <bazhang> Altan, this is for actual installed system support, not what *may* work
[10:32] <Altan> :3 Sorry.
[10:33] <Kiak> Hi.
[10:33] <ParkerR> Hello
[10:33] <bazhang> Kiak, hi altan
[10:34] <gry> hey
[10:34] <Kiak> Is there a way to get Ubuntu to work with Parallels?
[10:34] <bazhang> Kiak,  of course
[10:34] <Kiak> I didn't see any particular product for it on the Parallels site.
[10:34] <ParkerR> Hmm never tried Parallels myself. Sorry
[10:34] <bazhang> Kiak, thats really a parallels issue though
[10:34] <szal> didn't Pulseaudio have an application for testing the microphone?  I saw it one day here from someone's screenshot, but can't remember the name..
[10:35] <Kiak>  How?
[10:35] <bazhang> szal, thought skype it self did. dasdasdasd never told us whether he adjusted the sound levels or not
[10:35] <bazhang> Kiak, check the parallels support forums
[10:36] <Kiak> Got a link? :3
[10:36] <bazhang> Kiak, try alis or search the web, not an ubuntu issue
[10:36] <bazhang> !alis | Kiak
[10:36] <dasdasdasd> ok i finally fixed it on my own! thank you very much for your support! the link did finally did it. bb have a nice day
[10:36] <szal> bazhang: to be able to test the mic in Skype you need to have the correct hardware taking up the mic signal; the Skype test is not infinite in length, sadly, so you don't have time to search for the device while the test is running
[10:37] <bazhang> szal, thanks for the info, not used it in ages
[10:37]  * szal found his mic using Audacity
[10:40] <uabn93> hey, can someone help me with my trackpad? it doesn't work as soon as i log in to any user. i think a recent update caused this bug.
[10:41] <jorgeeer> a
[10:43] <gry> jorgeeer: Hi there.
[10:44] <youri> hi
[10:44] <gry> youri: Hello.
[10:47] <Kiak> Would selecting "download onto USB stick" when downloading Ubuntu work with an external hard drive?
[10:48] <ikonia> Kiak: should do
[10:58] <jorgeeer> a
[10:58] <gry> jorgeeer: a?
[11:00] <jorgeeer> sorry i touch my keyboard accidentally
[11:01] <edgy> Hi, I have a geforce 540M CUDA 1GB but lspci shows Memory at a0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
[11:02] <ikonia> edgy lspci just lists devices based on profiles matching identifiers, don't worry about it
[11:04] <Kiak> !de
[11:05] <sudokill> !jp
[11:05] <Kiak> !tk
[11:05] <Kiak> no turkish? D:
[11:05] <UncleLaz> !md
[11:05] <UncleLaz> !ro
[11:05] <Shvelo> !ka
[11:05] <ikonia> ok - enough
[11:06] <ikonia> we know there are language factoids
[11:06] <UncleLaz> sorry
[11:06] <Kiak> :D
[11:06] <phoque> jeeez, Empathy's "incoming message" icon is still missing in natty?
[11:06] <UncleLaz> empathy is under messaging indicator icon
[11:08] <miktor> is there a simple command/program to see the battery status?
[11:09] <UncleLaz> don't you have battery indicator icon?
[11:10] <miktor> no, I'm running dwm
[11:10] <miktor> i just forgot the command/program to check the battery status
[11:10] <systemclient> how do I enable PHP on vanilla apach2 install?
[11:10] <miktor> also i can't get it to read .xinitrc, but this is probably not the place to ask for help with that
[11:11] <ArtVanda1ae> systemclient, you need to enable the module, i.e. run a2enmod as root
[11:11] <sudokill> miktor- acpi -v
[11:11] <sudokill> ?
[11:11] <ParkerR> Really? Ubuntu Classic fallback is going away in 11.10? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/739812/comments/5
[11:11] <miktor> let me try sudokill
[11:11] <UncleLaz> miktor, acpi -b
[11:12] <miktor> thanks
[11:12] <ParkerR> Sad day
[11:12] <miktor> that's it ^^
[11:12] <UncleLaz> parker, yes
[11:12]  * ParkerR stays with 11.04
[11:12] <sudokill> lol
[11:12] <UncleLaz> xD
[11:13] <theadmin> ParkerR: And consider Xfce. Because it's similar to Gnome2 (which is what Ubuntu Classic is)
[11:13] <gry> ParkerR: Bah, that's interesting news
[11:13] <systemclient> ParkerR: yeah, that is what it seems. Don't you like Unity? :-P
[11:13] <ParkerR> I know, right?
[11:13] <UncleLaz> i suppose it would be possible to install gnome2 on 10.10, so no need to panick
[11:13] <ParkerR> No
[11:13] <UncleLaz> 11.10 pardon
[11:13] <ParkerR> Haha
[11:14] <ParkerR> I was gonna say XD
[11:14] <systemclient> ArtVanda1ae: I tried to enable it, but it did not exist. I then reinstalled it, apitutde had to uninstall the mpm-worker to get the current version. It now woirks,. Thanks!
[11:14] <Acidpunk> It won't be possible to install gnome 2 in 11.10, well it will be but it's going to break a lot of stuff
[11:14] <systemclient> ParkerR: KDE now :-)
[11:14] <systemclient> Acidpunk: I guess they migrate a lot to GTK3, therefore you will have fun with GTK2
[11:14] <Acidpunk> Yeah systemclient everything is going GTk3
[11:14] <UncleLaz> unity in 11.10 will use gtk3?
[11:15] <Acidpunk> UncleLaz: from what I've read yeah they are migrating to gtk3
[11:16] <ParkerR> theadmin, But I doubt I will get this look in xfce http://parkerlreed.imgur.com/ubuntu
[11:18] <sudokill> ParkerR- what look?
[11:18] <Robson> ParkerR what is the best solution to run steam on nix?
[11:18] <sudokill> the bars at the top?
[11:18] <Robson> wine?
[11:18] <sudokill> xfce can look identical to that
[11:18] <systemclient> Robson: virtualbox will work to some extend I guess
[11:18] <ParkerR> sudokill, I just mean I like the way it looks overall. Colors styles
[11:18] <systemclient> sudokill: so can KDE, irc
[11:18] <ParkerR> Robson, wine
[11:18] <sudokill> ParkerR- xubuntu does look good imo
[11:19] <sudokill> systemclient- yea
[11:19] <sudokill> systemclient- i think ParkerR might be worried because xfce is lighter
[11:19] <Robson> nice does anyone know if there is a solution for Wine+SC2 ?
[11:19] <sudokill> thinking its gona be ugly
[11:20] <Acidpunk> XFCE doesn't have to look ugly
[11:20] <Acidpunk> Nor does LMDE
[11:20] <sudokill> the default xuubntu is really nice actually
[11:20] <ParkerR> sudokill, No I just mean getting this look and theme and styles in xfce will be tough
[11:20] <sudokill> with the grey theme
[11:20] <ParkerR> Robson, SC2?
[11:20] <Robson> blizzard, starcraft2
[11:21] <theadmin> ParkerR: Should be easy enough to do
[11:21] <Acidpunk> Robson: Why don't you check on http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20882 instead of asking
[11:21] <UncleLaz> as far as i remember, customizing xfce is easy
[11:22] <Robson> Acidpunk well... asking works. you answered my question, thanks :D
[11:22] <Acidpunk> Robson: Google in future though
[11:22] <Acidpunk> it's not hard
[11:22] <JakeR003> what's a light weight browser for ubuntu
[11:22] <JakeR003> very very small memory footprint
[11:22] <sudokill> JakeR003- what a cli one?
[11:22] <Benkinooby> JakeR003, chromium or midori
[11:22] <gry> JakeR003: elinks or links2
[11:22] <theadmin> JakeR003: Midori
[11:23] <JakeR003> ok i will try few of them
[11:23] <JakeR003> thanks guys..
[11:23] <sudokill> JakeR003- chromium works ok on my downstairs comp with 512 ram
[11:23] <UncleLaz> opera is pretty fast
[11:23] <Robson> Acidpunk :x
[11:23] <JakeR003> ok then chromiu
[11:23] <systemclient> sudokill: sure, KDE is a ressource hog, no doubt about that
[11:23] <theadmin> Yah Opera's great too
[11:23] <theadmin> That's what I run
[11:24] <sudokill> i find opera too complicated
[11:24] <sudokill> too many settings everywhere
[11:24] <rekho> hello
[11:24] <theadmin> sudokill: You do not need all of them.
[11:24] <sudokill> i know
[11:24] <Lasrod> Hello, I pressed Ctrl+Shift+F5 (I think) by misstake and this got me into terminal window... how do I get back to ubuntu ui?
[11:24] <Benkinooby> JakeR003, opera, chromium, midori ... all of them are pretty minimal and have to most basic functions
[11:24] <gry> rekho: Hi!
[11:24] <theadmin> Lasrod: Ctrl+Alt+F7
[11:24] <JakeR003> thank you Benkinooby
[11:24] <theadmin> Lasrod: And you pressed Ctrl+Alt+F5.
[11:24] <Lasrod> theadmin: ahhh... thank you! :)
[11:24] <theadmin> Benkinooby: Opera has much more than basic functions xD
[11:25] <sudokill> this is gona turn into another browser war
[11:25] <sudokill> :p
[11:25] <gry> They all are ok
[11:25] <theadmin> Just don't say anyone here uses IE xD
[11:25] <theadmin> If so, yes, it'll be a war
[11:25] <gry> Cli ones are easier on ram I would assume
[11:25] <theadmin> Otherwise... meh I'm fine
[11:25] <Acidpunk> I know people that use IE9 happily
[11:26] <gry> ...
[11:26] <sudokill> imo cli browsers are only good if your stuck in a console and desperately need the net
[11:26] <jesus> ie9 is a .....
[11:26] <UncleLaz> arguing about browser is like arguing about sexual orientation, leave it
[11:27] <Acidpunk> I know I tend to avoid the issue
[11:27] <Acidpunk> people use what works for them
[11:27] <sudokill> UncleLaz- ? whats the relevance there
[11:27] <sudokill> lol
[11:27] <theadmin> And let's not start arguing about sexual orientation, now.
[11:27] <Benkinooby> gry, cli ones are hardly usable... even the site structure is messed up
[11:27] <Acidpunk> At least it's not a distro war
[11:27] <systemclient> theadmin: Opera is like KDE in this matter
[11:27] <gry> sudokill: they're both personal taste
[11:27] <gry> Benkinooby: ^
[11:27] <theadmin> systemclient: Well, it starts up and works faster than FF though
[11:27] <sudokill> but not as fast as chromium
[11:27] <systemclient> this is very neat for the Gnome vs. KDE: http://raw-output.org/20051215/remote-controls
[11:27] <sudokill> haha
[11:28] <systemclient> chromium is the killer, but I fear the killer in non-privacy also :-/
[11:28] <Acidpunk> Chromium is good and bad, I use it and I can tell you it's not perfect either
[11:28] <Acidpunk> Some things in firefox are better and vice versa same applies to Ie9 and opera
[11:28] <sudokill> Acidpunk- whats bad?
[11:28] <gry> Lasrod: did it work?
[11:28] <theadmin> Well whatever, stop the browser discussion please, we're offtopic.
[11:29] <Acidpunk> Meh
[11:29] <Acidpunk> sudokill: There are always bugs in chromium
[11:29] <ParkerR> Acidpunk, I enjoy Chrome very much. Havent had any issues with it
[11:29] <Acidpunk> ParkerR: Chrome != chromium
[11:29] <sudokill> Acidpunk- actually there arent
[11:29] <gry> okay enjoy please
[11:29] <gry> move on, move on
[11:29] <ParkerR> I know
[11:29] <ParkerR> Thats why I use Chrome :P
[11:29] <gry> we need to get more questions
[11:29] <gry> this one is getting too large
[11:29] <Guest43031> anyone knws how to work the wifi-adaptor sitecom?
[11:29] <gry> yay
[11:30] <Acidpunk> sudokill: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/list
[11:30] <theadmin> Guest43031: Sorry what?
[11:30] <JakeR003> what about privacy in chromium?
[11:30] <sudokill> Acidpunk- almost every program has bugs
[11:30] <Guest43031> Sitecom dualband usb 300N x5 on ubuntu
[11:30] <theadmin> sudokill: If it doesn't have bugs it's dead
[11:30] <Acidpunk> That was the point sudokill
[11:30] <obyrith> when i start up my computer i have no issues with my usb keyboard, neither do i in windows. However, when I switch to linux, sometimes it doesn't seem like it works at all, i can't type in my password or even change my capslock light. Every time I can fix this by changing the USB port of the keyboard, it doesn't seem to matter which one, as long as it isn't the one it started in. What could possibly be causing this?
[11:30] <theadmin> sudokill: So not almost every.
[11:30] <Acidpunk> You said there aren't bugs in chromium sudokill
[11:30] <sudokill> Acidpunk- so... how can you say chromium having bugs as a minus point?
[11:30] <gry> Guest43031: can you ask in one line please, and include all details?
[11:31] <sudokill> when every prog does
[11:31] <Acidpunk> because the bugs in chromium aren't the same as say bugs in firefox
[11:31] <sudokill> lol
[11:31] <Acidpunk> So both have pluses and vice versa
[11:31] <theadmin> Stop this, please, this is horribly offtopic by now.
[11:31] <Robson> Why is the 32-bit Unbuntu recommended for desktop, and 64-bit for server, any specific reason?
[11:31] <Acidpunk> Alright
[11:31] <Guest43031> Sitecom dualband usb adapter 300N x5 on ubuntu 11.04 64 bits (acer aspire 7750g)
[11:31] <sudokill> Robson- because 32 wrks with everything
[11:32] <theadmin> Robson: 32-bit - better support for weird software, 64-bit gives more RAM
[11:32] <sudokill> Robson- in case someone installs the wrong one
[11:32] <jrib> Robson: if your hardware supports 64bit, use 64bit
[11:32] <sudokill> imo ubuntu really need to remove that "recommended" thing by now
[11:32] <miktor> Hmm, I'm having this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1615321
[11:32] <sudokill> i think in this day everyone knows what the difference is
[11:32] <jrib> !here | miktor
[11:32] <ParkerR> My hardware supports 64 but I stay at 32 because I can just use the PAE kernel to use my 4gb of RAM
[11:33] <jrib> miktor: how are you starting X?
[11:34] <miktor> Well, actually the problem might lie in that i don't start x but dwm, but dwm doesn't work without x... anyway i made a login profile that looks like... (link in a sec)
[11:34] <jrib> miktor: you have to start x at some point
[11:34] <theadmin> miktor: Add "exec dwm" to your ~/.xinitrc and just xinit
[11:34] <sudokill> startx you mean?
[11:34] <miktor> well, then dwm doesn't start
[11:35] <theadmin> sudokill: xinit, startx acts differently afaik
[11:35] <jrib> no I mean he starts X somehow, whether using startx or some other way
[11:35] <miktor> and i can't do no nothing
[11:35] <sudokill> startx just links for it
[11:35] <chalcedony> <- frustrated woman. my sound just quit on ubuntu 10.04 - does downloading teamviewer have anything to do with sound?
[11:35] <jrib> miktor: what exactly are you doing after  your computer boots
[11:36] <theadmin> chalcedony: No.
[11:36] <miktor> log in? The normal xsession doesn't work
[11:36] <jrib> miktor: log in how?  Using gdm?
[11:36] <pobara> hi everyone, I have tiny question:
[11:36] <theadmin> jrib: I assume using a tty.
[11:36] <pobara> can anyone tell me what is result of:
[11:36] <pobara> $ gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.session session-name
[11:36] <pobara> on Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity running?
[11:36] <FloodBot1> pobara: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:36]  * jrib does not assume...
[11:36] <chalcedony> theadmin, sound settings seem the same in System Preferences Sound
[11:36] <miktor> is gdm the standard ubuntu login manager? if so, yes.
[11:36] <theadmin> chalcedony: Try restarting pulseaudio
[11:37] <jrib> miktor: what session do you select?
[11:37] <theadmin> chalcedony: Open a terminal and... pulseaudio --kill && pulseaudio -d
[11:37] <sudokill> chalcedony- have you tried running alsamixer see the volume levels?
[11:37] <chalcedony> theadmin, super thanks :)
[11:37] <pobara> did my question get there or was it blocked by FloodBot1?
[11:38] <miktor> custom session doesn't work, so i made an other one http://pastebin.com/eVH1ax6B
[11:38] <javier__> hi! I need help. I think a neighbour might be using my wifi connection. I tried to download something from "megaupload" and I got the message that my IP is already downloading and .avi file, and it's the same since a few days (when I want to watch an online video it tells I've already exceed the transfer limitation). While I'm sure noone from my house is downloading a thing. How to detect if someone (or something) is doing so?
[11:38] <gry> pobara: up to 'on ubuntu 11.04 ...' line,it got through
[11:38] <chalcedony> theadmin, pulseaudio is right but : ~$ pulseaudio --kill && pulseaudio -d
[11:38] <chalcedony> pulseaudio: invalid option -- 'd'
[11:38] <chalcedony> E: main.c: Failed to parse command line.
[11:38] <jrib> miktor: that wouldn't run .xsession or .xinitrc though.  When you say "custom session doesn't work", what happens exactly?
[11:38] <gry> pobara: It helps to ask on 1 line like that javier__ did ... ^ he did good
[11:38] <UncleLaz> anybody knows how to disable chat notifications in empathy, it's annoying to see who entered the room and who leaved in here
[11:38] <pobara> gry, that was last line, so it's ok :)
[11:38] <theadmin> chalcedony: Huh, odd...
[11:39] <Ovomaltine> hi people
[11:39] <Ovomaltine> is it possible to have support for mouse using eterm ?
[11:39] <theadmin> chalcedony: Ah, it's "pulseaudio -D"
[11:39] <theadmin> chalcedony: not -d but -D
[11:39] <chalcedony> ah theadmin :)
[11:39] <chalcedony> theadmin, ~$ pulseaudio --kill && pulseaudio -D
[11:39] <chalcedony> E: main.c: Daemon startup failed.
[11:39] <chalcedony> llhull@llhull:~$
[11:40] <theadmin> chalcedony: Odd :/
[11:40] <miktor> well, i get the same background as in gnome. And then nothing happens. I think all the applications start up as if it were in gnome though? Which is strange, it's not supposed to be like that i can tell
[11:40] <jrib> !who | miktor
[11:40] <theadmin> chalcedony: Try just doing "pulseaudio &disown" now
[11:40] <miktor> ah right
[11:40] <pobara> Is anyone running 11.04 able to answer to my question? pretty please :)
[11:40] <jrib> miktor: can you pastebin your ~/.xsession?
[11:40] <jrib> miktor: what ubuntu version by the way?
[11:40] <miktor> jrib sure
[11:40] <miktor> 11.04 jrb
[11:41] <Ovomaltine> could anyone answer my question please ?
[11:41] <theadmin> chalcedony: Speaking of, please use a pastebin service like http://pzt.me to post your command output.
[11:42] <Ovomaltine> theadmin: is it possible to have support for mouse using eterm ?
[11:42] <chalcedony> theadmin, http://pastebin.com/TdWyjB9n
[11:42] <theadmin> Ovomaltine: I wouldn't know.
[11:42] <miktor> jrib, i actually don't have any ".xsession" i have ".xsession-errors", but it's insignificant, just font errors. or maybe you mean the .Xsession file in /etc/x11/ ?
[11:42] <Ovomaltine> who knows ?
[11:43] <jrib> miktor: create a ~/.xsession that you want the "user script" option to run
[11:43] <theadmin> chalcedony: Okay, it's running so... I dunno. If it still doesn't work, try starting alsamixer and make sure stuff isn't muted
[11:43] <jrib> miktor: ~/.Xsession probably works too
[11:43] <miktor> jrib, in the home folder?
[11:43] <jrib> miktor: yes
[11:44] <miktor> jrib, is it then supposed to work like xinitrc?
[11:44] <jrib> miktor: yes
[11:44] <chalcedony> theadmin, thanks :)
[11:44] <chalcedony> still no music on youtubes
[11:44] <tripelb> HOW do you end htop? I had to close the terminal window.
[11:44] <miktor> jrib, after I've done this, what should I do then?
[11:44] <theadmin> chalcedony: Hey, it's no problem, always glad to help
[11:44] <theadmin> chalcedony: Youtube... might as well be a flash issue
[11:45] <jrib> miktor: go to gdm and have it use your custom user session (wording may be different)
[11:45] <chalcedony> i have the drum sounds
[11:45] <chalcedony> hmm
[11:45] <chalcedony> possibly
[11:45] <tripelb> something is eating my computer.. since the update? I use the Lucid LTS. every time I do anything it takes up all of memory for a time.
[11:45]  * stilia-johny Hi. Does any know how can setup mu ubuntu as a network os??
[11:45] <jrib> miktor: reading the session scripts, it looks like it should say "User Defined Session"
[11:45] <DirtyDawg> .
[11:45] <theadmin> stilia-johny: lolwut?
[11:45] <chalcedony> tripelb, what do you see in top when that happens?
[11:45] <ParkerR> Ovomaltine, first result on google for eterm mouse support http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/miscellaneous/68860-vim-eterm-mouse.html
[11:45] <theadmin> chalcedony: Well, always glad to help :)
[11:46] <chalcedony> there is kind of a new bug that affects my computer at times.. eats all the ram
[11:46] <tripelb> chalcedony, it's htop I dont know how to end. I see all of it. I tried q and esc and F10
[11:46] <ParkerR> Ovomaltine, fourth post down
[11:46] <miktor> jrib, Yep, i renamed it to xsession for my own reasons though. But i'll be right back if it doesn't work
[11:47] <jrib> miktor: renamed what?
[11:47] <javier__> someone can help me detecting who is transfering in my wifi? I suspect a neightbour or someone is using it
[11:47] <tripelb> Iwhen chrome was chrome was bugging everything up I saw a lot of chrome in top
[11:47] <stilia-johny> I know that theris way to have an ubuntu machine and conect other pc and load ubuntu from network.!!
[11:47] <ParkerR> javier__, well then put a passwor don it
[11:47] <Ovomaltine> i dont want to use vim ParkerR i want to use eterm with a sotware moc (music on console) i dont know if vim was something about that
[11:47] <ParkerR> *password
[11:47] <miktor> jrib, renamed "user defined session" to "xsession"
[11:47] <histo> stilia-johny: you can do network install
[11:47] <histo> !install | stilia-johny
[11:47] <jrib> miktor: ok
[11:47] <tripelb> while nautilus was bugging everything up chalcedony I saw nautilus taking up 90%
[11:48] <javier__> i did nmap, with this answer: 256 IP addresses (0 hosts up) scanned in 103.17 seconds
[11:48] <stilia-johny> Not network install network load!
[11:48] <chalcedony> tripelb, i don't run nautilus
[11:48] <fatih93> Türk var mı ?
[11:48] <tripelb> chalcedony,  I when chrome was chrome was bugging everything up I saw a lot of chrome in top
[11:48] <tripelb> chalcedony, ok so?
[11:48] <theadmin> !tr | fatih93
[11:48] <stilia-johny> Load network os
[11:48] <stephenthemartyr> how can i replace half od my partition?i
[11:49] <stilia-johny> None know?
[11:49] <histo> stilia-johny: did you check the document?
[11:49] <fatih93> eyvallah ;)
[11:49] <javier__> ParkerR: I already hav WPA security. I suspect this because I try to download something from Megaupload and says my IP already getting something
[11:49] <stilia-johny> Yes.. Nothing for network os!
[11:49] <histo> stilia-johny: is the remote machine running linux?
[11:49] <tripelb> stilia-johny, you mean you want to shrink your partition?
[11:50] <ParkerR> javier__, well then change the password
[11:50] <chalcedony> tripelb for me it was..gnome-system-mo
[11:50] <javier__> ok
[11:50] <ParkerR> If you think someone else is using it
[11:50] <stilia-johny> Yes the remote machine run ubuntu
[11:50] <ParkerR> Change it then restart the router
[11:50] <chalcedony> i haven't seen gnome-system-mo before but it sure is using ram at times
[11:50] <histo> stilia-johny: and you want to install ubuntu on it?
[11:50] <ParkerR> javier__,
[11:50] <javier__> anyway, I would like to investigate if someone is really using my wifi
[11:50] <tripelb>  chalcedony I have no idea what that is.
[11:50] <stowoda> hi
[11:51] <histo> javier__: you can look at who is assigned ips on most router pages
[11:51] <tripelb> javier__, there's an ap for that
[11:51] <stilia-johny> No I wanna use a program to load ubuntu in local machine.. No vnc
[11:51] <ParkerR> Hello stowoda
[11:51] <stowoda> how to delete lines from a file with sed? I want to delete all lines form 10 to 56 for example..
[11:51] <gry> stowoda: Good question!
[11:51] <javier__> tripelb: do you know which is that program? I'm trying in google, but I don't really arrive anywhere
[11:52] <histo> stilia-johny: then download a cd
[11:52] <stephenthemartyr> how do you replace one side ofg a partition?is it possible?
[11:52] <stowoda> gry, should be possible or?
[11:52] <histo> stilia-johny: perhaps we don't understand the issue
[11:52] <jrib> stowoda: d is the delete command
[11:52] <tomi> hello
[11:52] <tomi> hola
[11:52] <stowoda> sed -d '10:56'
[11:52] <JakeR003> hail
[11:52] <tomi> pña
[11:53] <stowoda> hm
[11:53] <tomi> ola penis
[11:53] <tripelb> stilia-johny, you have to ask all on one line. It's hard to chase thru the talk and find out what you really are asking and what your os and situation are.
[11:53] <theadmin> !ops | tomi
[11:53] <salamcik> hello all, i was wondering where i can change the default ctrl + w to super+w
[11:53] <jrib> tomi: do you have a support question regarding ubuntu?
[11:53] <urlin2u> javier__, in the router look at the lan list as well.
[11:53] <gry> stowoda: yes, I'm frankly clueless - #bash or ##linux or just wait here
[11:53] <histo> stilia-johny: you want to netboot ubuntu? like a thin client?
[11:53] <tripelb> tomi you are offtopic. go to join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:53] <histo> !ltsp | stilia-johny
[11:53] <IdleOne> !language > tomi
[11:53] <salamcik> ive looked in keyboard shortcuts but couldnt find the appropriate command
[11:54] <salamcik> ctrl+w TO super+w halp
[11:54] <jrib> stowoda: is that what you needed?
[11:54] <stilia-johny>  Thats I need ltsp..
[11:55] <Namenszwerg> tt
[11:55] <stowoda> jrib, not sure. I am trying
[11:55] <stilia-johny> Does any know how can I setup my ubuntu 11.04 as a ltsp
[11:55] <stephenthemartyr> hello
[11:55] <jrib> stowoda: what are you trying exactly?
[11:55] <tripelb> hello.. how do I end the program HTOP (actually it's htop) please tell me. these dont work q, escape, f10
[11:55] <osmosis_paul> Somebody here have configurate Jmeter ??
[11:55] <jrib> tripelb: q
[11:55] <osmosis_paul> i'm trying to find one file that supoust the documentation in Unix should be there but is not
[11:55] <jrib> tripelb: f10 also seems to work, yes
[11:55] <fatih93> hi  all, There is an application in Ubuntu 11.04 which is Basic 11.04. Is it include all features of Basic? It doesn't give answer when i use ";".
[11:56] <tripelb> jrib i'll try again (it works on top)
[11:56] <histo> stilia-johny: i just sent you the link
[11:56] <histo> !ltsp > stilia-johny
[11:56] <salamcik> can anyone help me regarding to where i can change the default ctrl+w close window to super+w ??? Ive looked in keyboard shortcuts but to no awail
[11:56] <ikonia> fatih93: basic ? as in the programming language
[11:56] <stowoda> one moment jrib
[11:56] <fatih93> yes
[11:56] <tripelb> jrib now it works. I'll chalk it up. everything seems to choke the ram, since the upgrade. 10.04
[11:56] <ikonia> fatih93: basic doesn't exist on linux
[11:56] <AlexDevilLX> alias eth0  3c59x will work everywhere????
[11:57] <tripelb> wait jrib that's update not upgrade. sorry
[11:57] <volkan_> hii, how can i remove files without asking "are you sure" via ftp in command line?
[11:57] <fatih93> no, It's exist
[11:57] <ikonia> fatih93: it doesn't
[11:57] <fatih93> i found it at application store
[11:57] <Trashi> hi guys. if i plug in a device into my usb hub, i get the syslog message: hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port X ... the devie isnt working ... does anybody know what to do?
[11:57] <ikonia> fatih93: what's it called
[11:57] <fatih93> Basic-256
[11:58] <stephenthemartyr> how do i change half of a partition?
[11:58] <stowoda> I geuess this: sed '10,56d' filename.txt, does what I want to
[11:58] <theadmin> stephenthemartyr: You can resize the partition.
[11:58] <jrib> stowoda: yes, well done
[11:58] <ikonia> fatih93: http://www.basic256.org/index_en
[11:58] <javier__> anyway, I cannot enter my router with 192.168.1.1 to change the password
[11:58] <stowoda> hehe
[11:58] <stephenthemartyr> theadmin: how do i do that?and will it keep the half i dontr wanna change intact?
[11:58] <stowoda> I am new to this..
[11:59] <urlin2u> javier__, you don't know or remember the password in?
[11:59] <theadmin> stephenthemartyr: Yes, and you need gparted for that
[11:59] <javier__> I don't remember, but I cannot access it. I can't get the page
[11:59] <histo> javier__: most routers default to username: admin  and password: admin
[11:59] <stephenthemartyr> theadmin: can i get that in synaptic?
[11:59] <theadmin> stephenthemartyr: Yes.
[12:00] <histo> javier__: perhaps the ip is not 192.168.1.1
[12:00] <salamcik> theadmin: do you know how i can change the close window shortcut from ctrl+w to super+w??
[12:00] <theadmin> ARGH. Why does everyone ask *me* random questions?
[12:00] <theadmin> salamcik: No, I don't.
[12:01] <salamcik> :<
[12:01] <salamcik> ur always here and always online thats why
[12:01] <theadmin> salamcik: Ah, not exactly true
[12:01] <jrib> theadmin: hmm, why could that be...
[12:02] <javier__> histo: might be that. But then, what is it?
[12:02] <AlexDevilLX> i cant cat /var/log/messages
[12:02] <histo> javier__: are you runnign linux rightnow?
[12:02] <jrib> AlexDevilLX: why not?
[12:03] <AlexDevilLX> dont know
[12:03] <fatih93> İf so, where can i find basic for linux ?
[12:03] <jrib> AlexDevilLX: what happens when you try...?
[12:03] <AlexDevilLX> simply wont worek
[12:03] <AlexDevilLX> cat: /var/log/messages: Нет такого файла или каталога
[12:03] <AlexDevilLX> no such file or directory
[12:03] <jrib> AlexDevilLX: try again with LANG=C at the beginning
[12:03] <histo> javier__: if so type ifconfig in a terminal and it will show what IP is assigned to your current machine.
[12:03] <javier__> histo: yes
[12:03] <AlexDevilLX> what
[12:03] <histo> javier__: should be 192..... or 10.....
[12:03] <Trashi> hi guys. if i plug in a device into my usb hub, i get the syslog message: hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port X ... the devie isnt working ... does anybody know what to do? (ubuntu version = 11.04)
[12:04] <AlexDevilLX> what device? what hub
[12:04] <AlexDevilLX> try another port
[12:04] <hareldvd> volume control on the panel is gone. Any idea?
[12:05] <AlexDevilLX> remove
[12:05] <AlexDevilLX> heh
[12:05] <jrib> AlexDevilLX: you can't cat a file that doesn't exist, yes
[12:05] <AlexDevilLX> yes
[12:05] <AlexDevilLX> but why it doesnt exist?
[12:05] <phoque> wow, 11.04 messed up some of my keyboard special characters
[12:05] <jrib> AlexDevilLX: syslog probably isn't setup to log there?
[12:05] <Halabund> When I run from battery, ubuntu dims the screen after a short time of inactivity.  When moving the mouse, it brightens the screen again, BUT NOT TO THE ORIGINAL LEVEL.  How can I get it to restore the original brightness?
[12:05] <magikid> AlexDevilLX: Are you running Natty?
[12:05] <AlexDevilLX> heh
[12:06] <AlexDevilLX> yes
[12:06] <Trashi> AlexDevilLX: same problem for all ports ... and i also try out different usb hubs ... ubuntu doesnt like any usb hubs
[12:06] <javier__> histo: in wlan0??? there it's said 192.168.2.7, but can't enter there neither
[12:06] <magikid> AlexDevilLX: seems to be a common problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1728570
[12:06] <histo> javier__: okay then navigate to 192.168.2.1
[12:06] <AlexDevilLX> how soon i'll become linux master?
[12:06] <ikonia> AlexDevilLX: really ?
[12:06] <AlexDevilLX> heh
[12:07] <AlexDevilLX> what
[12:07] <theadmin> AlexDevilLX: Never. Linux isn't dead.
[12:07] <jrib> AlexDevilLX: syslog is just configured to not log to messages anymore.  Seems like things end up in /var/log/syslog anyway and they wanted to avoid duplication
[12:07] <AlexDevilLX> i'm blaming myself
[12:07] <theadmin> AlexDevilLX: It keeps developing, so you can never master it.
[12:07] <urlin2u> Halabund, try setting the high with the fn-arrow lft-right keys.
[12:07] <javier__> histo: that was it :)   I forgot to study that part :P
[12:07] <bazhang> AlexDevilLX, lets stop the offtopic
[12:07] <AlexDevilLX> so i'm currently at modprobe level
[12:08] <jrib> AlexDevilLX: you can read discussion about the deliberate change here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/794727
[12:08] <AlexDevilLX> what level i'm studying
[12:08] <ikonia> AlexDevilLX: that isn't a level - please stop with the random stuff
[12:08] <sam_> hi..m unable to use my webcam. i m new to ubuntu. help appreciated
[12:08] <Halabund> urlin2u: my point is that I have to do that after every time ubuntu dims the screen.  It does not restore the brightness I set using those keys, even though it clearly notices that I'm setting the brightness (it shows a popup with the brightness levels)
[12:08] <ikonia> !webcam | sam_
[12:08] <javier__> histo: in windows, how to do something like that ifconfig?
[12:09] <AlexDevilLX> runlevel=5 is logging isn't it?
[12:09] <ikonia> AlexDevilLX: no, that's an init level
[12:09] <jrib> AlexDevilLX: what do you want to accomplish?
[12:09] <AlexDevilLX> to make my eth0 to write log about internet dissconnection
[12:09] <AlexDevilLX> i know that debug=5
[12:10] <ikonia> AlexDevilLX: what are you on about debug=5
[12:10] <ikonia> AlexDevilLX: if your eth0 card dropping from the network, or is your internet dropping at the router/modem ?
[12:10] <sam_> ubottu  ikonia  i have installed cheese , but unable to use my webcam of Toshiba laptop
[12:10] <AlexDevilLX> options 3c59x debug=5This line specifies 5 as the value of the debug parameter in the 3c59xmodule.
[12:10] <AlexDevilLX> modem
[12:11] <ikonia> AlexDevilLX: then your card won't see it drop
[12:11] <AlexDevilLX> no internet > log
[12:11] <AlexDevilLX> heh
[12:11] <AlexDevilLX> great
[12:11] <ikonia> AlexDevilLX: it's not a problem with your card to debug, you'll need to do that at your modem, or write a shell script to ping a host
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:11] <AlexDevilLX> so what thing can i log?
[12:12] <ikonia> AlexDevilLX: you'll be able to do it via a shell script - ping a host (or something that simple) and when it stops responding log that the internet has dropped
[12:12] <AlexDevilLX> ok
[12:12] <AlexDevilLX> thx anyway
[12:12] <sam_> Hi, I m having problem with WEBCAM (In Built Toshiba Laptop). I tried Testing it thru the application CHEESE..I get the message NO DEVICE FOUND. ANy help apprecaited
[12:12] <ikonia> AlexDevilLX: your ISP will also be able to tell you when your connection goes down
[12:12] <AlexDevilLX> what camera
[12:12] <ikonia> sam_: did you read the debugging on that webpage ubottu sent you
[12:13] <AlexDevilLX> My ISP is bad one
[12:13] <javier__> histo: i enter the router and there I saw "active DHCP clients": only my two computers IP there. So, guess no one is in here. Do you know why then "megaupload" detects my ip as downloading something?
[12:13] <sam_> ikonia  i m novice to Ubuntu, I already went thru that page earlier and installed Cheese, but tat dont seems to solve the problem :(
[12:13] <pobara> I will ask again: on Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity running, what is written by: $ gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.session session-name
[12:14] <histo> javier__: are the two ips that are there your MAC addresses?
[12:14] <ikonia> sam_: installing cheese doesn't "fix" anything it will just allow you to use your camera if you configure it
[12:14] <ChessTeach> Is there any good quick start launcher applications that behave like a terminal, I want to run a command with a directory as parameters and use tab to autocomplete. Anything out there that does this?
[12:14] <sam_> ikonia  what shud b done in tat case
[12:14] <xbox> oh is this a support channel ops i guess no1 know how to install adope flash for firefox on a xbox 360
[12:14] <javier__> histo: im not sure what is MAC address, but the two IP there are mine and my father's laptop
[12:14] <AlexDevilLX> one more question
[12:15] <histo> ChessTeach: alt+f2 the run dialog has autocompletion
[12:15] <ikonia> sam_: please try to talk in clear english - text speak makes it hard to follow
[12:15] <sam_> ikonia  i apologize
[12:15] <ikonia> no need
[12:15] <histo> javier__: okay then your good i have no idea what megaupload is so can't help you there. You may want to contact their supoprt
[12:15] <ChessTeach> the built in one, when i push tab it moves to another field, and doesn't autocomplet directories
[12:16] <AlexDevilLX> new kernel modules arrive with new kernel?
[12:16] <ikonia> AlexDevilLX: if needed, yes
[12:16] <AlexDevilLX> so
[12:16] <m1h0> quit
[12:16] <histo> AlexDevilLX: ofcourse
[12:16] <AlexDevilLX> if i install new webcam do i need to modprobe
[12:16] <ikonia> AlexDevilLX: no
[12:16] <sam_> ikonia first i need to check actually if everything is fine with my webcam and secondly if there are issues with the driver
[12:16] <AlexDevilLX> why
[12:16] <histo> AlexDevilLX: no udev should handle it
[12:16] <AlexDevilLX> how
[12:16] <javier__> histo: ok. It's just a website from where you download things, with a limit if you are not premium user (as me). Thanks then!
[12:17] <AlexDevilLX> so what handles it?
[12:17] <ikonia> AlexDevilLX: udev - as you've just been told
[12:17] <urlin2u> Halabund, I see a bug report on this regarding the 2.6.38 kernels, and setting to low, but a lot of other hits with problem s= well. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/773415
[12:17] <AlexDevilLX> wait
[12:17] <urlin2u> as well*
[12:17] <AlexDevilLX> NO udev should hanle it
[12:17] <phoque> my notebook hangs at boot during apparmor/cupsd profile loading
[12:17] <miktor> jrib, i can get it to start (only) the first application in .Xsession now, what am i doing wrong?
[12:17] <phoque> any ideas?
[12:18] <jrib> miktor: pastebin your .xsession script
[12:18] <AlexDevilLX> ikonia: histo wrote, that NO udev should hanle it
[12:18] <honey_> how can i get converter taht means form any player to any player?
[12:18] <ikonia> AlexDevilLX: no, you don't need to modpobe, udev will handle it (that's what was meant)
[12:18] <bazhang> honey_, try handbrake
[12:18] <histo> AlexDevilLX: yes... I was answering your question about mod probing. Then telling you that udev would handle it.
[12:18] <gry> honey_: ffmpeg ?
[12:18] <dean_> Hey all is anyone familiar with Lubuntu in here?
[12:18] <AlexDevilLX> ah
[12:18] <jrib> dean_: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[12:18] <gry> dean_: #lubuntu ?
[12:18] <bazhang> dean_, somewhat, whats the issue
[12:18] <AlexDevilLX> udev like udev notify
[12:19] <miktor> jrib http://pastebin.com/622bcNUF
[12:19] <histo> AlexDevilLX: no, udev like udev
[12:19] <dean_> bazhang, I just wondered if there is a way to get wallpapers the default one is boring to say the least
[12:19] <AlexDevilLX> and modprobe handles pci
[12:19] <ikonia> AlexDevilLX: no
[12:19] <honey_> whcich one is better handbrake or ffmpeg?
[12:19] <xbox> guess no one here can help me with installing adope flash on my xbox 360 ubuntu 10.10
[12:19] <dean_> gry, I tried Lubuntu no one talking in there
[12:19] <AlexDevilLX> udev handles pci?
[12:19] <miktor> jrib, it doesn't matter where i put the exec, it only takes the first command no matter what i do
[12:19] <jrib> miktor: well, your script executes dwm and then waits for dwm to exit before proceeding, do you see the issue?
[12:19] <JakeR003> is there a way to run a two instances of a program on ubuntu with two different network settings?
[12:19] <ikonia> AlexDevilLX: do you actually have an ubuntu question ? rather than generic linux how to ?
[12:19] <miktor> ah
[12:19] <gry> dean_: try asking here so people can reply or send you elsewhere
[12:19] <miktor> jrib yes
[12:19] <AlexDevilLX> dean_: go2 #lubuntu
[12:20] <ChessTeach> histo the built in one, when i push tab it moves to another field, and doesn't autocomplet directories
[12:20] <AlexDevilLX> ubuntu
[12:20] <miktor> jrib, how do i make it go right onto the next one?
[12:20] <histo> ChessTeach: ahh no idea that's why I always have a terminal open.
[12:20] <AlexDevilLX> ok
[12:20] <jrib> miktor: you probably want to do something like xrdb ~/.Xdefaults; nm-applet &; exec dwm (personally I don't use exec and then put things after dwm that I want to happen when I quit/log out
[12:20] <AlexDevilLX> if i put XFS, do i need to modprobe?
[12:20] <histo> AlexDevilLX: no
[12:21] <AlexDevilLX> why
[12:21] <Halabund> urlin2u: I found the solution.  There was an option to lower the brightness when running from battery.  Apparently the meaning of this is: disregard the user's brightness setting when running from battery.  Windows simply remembered my last setting separately for battery / ac-power mode.
[12:21] <ikonia> AlexDevilLX: because it's part of the kernel
[12:21] <miktor> jrib, alright i will try that
[12:21] <AlexDevilLX> is it module?
[12:22] <ikonia> nopf:
[12:22] <ikonia> no
[12:22] <urlin2u> Halabund, I wondered about that since that is where the bar is.
[12:22] <ikonia> AlexDevilLX: can we please get to ubuntu support rather than generic linux questions
[12:23] <AlexDevilLX> ok
[12:24] <adf_> nas
[12:24] <locodir-user> t
[12:24] <adf_> I dunno why my Cd is not recognized by ubuntu
[12:25] <adf_> I wanna try a cd with brasero or k3b but it doesn't see the cd
[12:25] <locodir-user> I Installed SPINFINITY Plymouth theme over my old text theme. I took help from a Web Tutorial. I succeeded to install the theme, but after the Animation of the theme Screen goes blank. I had to edit some files to install the same.How can I Fix this problem ?
[12:25] <honey_> gry:i install it but i coudnt find were is it how can i use it?
[12:25] <bazhang> honey_, its command line if you  mean ffmpeg
[12:25] <gry> honey_: man ffmpeg
[12:26] <bazhang> honey_, which is why I suggested handbrake, which is not
[12:26] <adf_> any ideas? If I do  mount /media/cdrom0 It says that is already mounted
[12:27] <honey_> bazahng:but i coudnt install it
[12:27] <bazhang> honey_, there's a ppa for it
[12:27] <honey_> bazahng:it says  coudnt find any package
[12:28] <honey_> bazahng:so tell me wht to do
[12:28] <honey_> ?
[12:28] <Halabund> another question: I noticed that in natty, it's possible to control media players from the bar on top of the screen.  Is it possible to set up the media keys (if available on the keyboard) to control the current media player, without the media player having explicit support for these keys?  I just want to use media keys with Spotify (which integrates with gnome apparently)
[12:28] <locodir-user> cls
[12:29] <honey_> bazahng:ppa?
[12:29] <locodir-user> Login Screen not seen
[12:29] <locodir-user> pls help
[12:29] <bazhang> !handbrake | honey_ yes, this or ubuntu ppa handbrake to find the link
[12:30] <urlin2u> honey_, handbrake?
[12:31] <locodir-user> .
[12:32] <locodir-user> help me plz.
[12:32] <bazhang> locodir-user, with what
[12:33] <locodir-user> no login screen after installing new Plymouth
[12:33] <bazhang> locodir-user, new plymouth?
[12:33] <locodir-user> Installed SPINFINITY
[12:33] <bazhang> locodir-user, remove it?
[12:33] <locodir-user> how
[12:33] <bazhang> locodir-user, how did you install it
[12:33] <locodir-user> am now booting from CD
[12:34] <locodir-user> intalled it as package @ terminal
[12:34] <locodir-user> had to edit some file
[12:34] <bazhang> locodir-user, then uninstall it the same way
[12:35] <locodir-user> dono how to do it
[12:35] <bazhang> locodir-user, well tell us the exact way you installed it
[12:35] <locodir-user> am new to UBUNTU
[12:36] <locodir-user> i had a KUBUNTU Text plymouth
[12:36] <bazhang> locodir-user, and what is the exact file you edited.
[12:36] <locodir-user> don't know, Sorry
[12:36] <locodir-user> refered a web site
[12:37] <bazhang> locodir-user, then you wont get much help
[12:37] <ChessTeach> histo: i do as well, but i don't like using an extra tab to run things in the background, also I do not like the output I get from the background applications getting pasted while i am working :-)
[12:37] <Pici> locodir-user: Can you provide the guide that you used/
[12:37] <locodir-user> which file does we  change to Make changes to plymouth ?
[12:38] <Pici> locodir-user: you shouldn't need to change a file manually.
[12:38] <locodir-user> but i had to
[12:38] <bazhang> locodir-user, whats the link
[12:38] <locodir-user> after typing in terminal, an editor opened
[12:38] <Pici> locodir-user: That wouldn't be the proper way to do it then.
[12:39] <diegows> sorry, where is the LVM initialization in Ubuntu at boot? I "grepped" for vgchange/vgscan/... in /etc/ and nothing
[12:40] <soerenbnoergaard> locodir-user: Do you remember if you did something like 'sudo apt-get install plymouth-theme-spinfinity'?
[12:40] <hiatus> so, can ubuntu play netflix with chrome now?
[12:41] <Pici> hiatus: no.
[12:41] <hiatus> how can chrome os do it then?
[12:42] <Pici> hiatus: Ask Google. Ask Netflix.
[12:42] <hiatus> its basically just gentoo with the chrome browser. did microsoft port the drm stack to moonlight or is it running as a plugin?
[12:42] <hiatus> they dont have channels on irc
[12:42] <honey_> bazahng: iwas trying to copy this deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/stebbins/handbrake-releases/ubuntu lucid main  and deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/stebbins/handbrake-releases/ubuntu lucid main  to my source list but still i coudnt even i update it my database
[12:42] <Pici> hiatus: That doesn't make it a question for this channel.
[12:43] <urlin2u> honey_, did you import thekey?
[12:43] <hiatus> well, i was wondering if anyone tried chromium nightly with ubuntu on netflix
[12:43] <honey_> urlin2u:wchi key?
[12:43] <BlackArchDog> hiatus: number one rule about using linux you must do research on your own its called google
[12:43] <soerenbnoergaard> honey_: Have you tried to add ppa:stebbins/handbrake-releases through synaptic?
[12:44] <coz_> !google
[12:44] <js_> win
[12:44] <hiatus> i have been using linux long enough to know about the drm stack with the mono project. i know linux
[12:44] <theadmin> BlackArchDog: "JFGI" and "RTFM" are not appreciated here.
[12:45] <urlin2u> honey_, see signing key on the page or remove the source list one and run this  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:handbrake-ubuntu/ppa
[12:45] <mfilipe> hi! is there any alternative to gnome-sensors and project-hamster to Unity?
[12:45] <locodir> No Login screen :
[12:46] <BlackArchDog> hiatus: you know there is a forum called linuxquestions.org and I bet if you searched it there has been at least 20+ times this question has been asked
[12:46] <Pici> hiatus: This channel is for Ubuntu support only. Providing support or discussion of the Chromium nightlies does not fall within that.  You can try another channel like ##linux, or perhaps there is a chromium channel on here somewhere.
[12:46] <locodir> link is not available
[12:46] <hiatus> and the update was yesterday night. im pretty sure information about it isnt going to be all over google
[12:46] <Halabund> somehow managed to get ~100 messages queued up in the notification system, how do I get rid of them so I won't have to watch them for the next half an hour?
[12:46] <BluesKaj> hiatus, interesting question , been wondering about it myself , maybe we could discuss and ask others in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:46] <hiatus> im talking about netflix on ubuntu!
[12:47] <BlackArchDog> hiatus: what you dont think we get ubuntu users in linuxquestions.org since we have a community for every distro
[12:47] <hiatus> how does that not have to do with ubuntu? and it happened yesterday! it cant hve 10,000 questions on linux questions and this is the damn ubuntu support channel
[12:48] <dr_willis> 0_o
[12:48] <IdleOne> hiatus: netflix on ubuntu doesn't work.
[12:48] <IdleOne> if google has managed to get it working on their OS ask them how they did it.
[12:48] <hiatus> it say so in the damn title. official ubuntu suppot channel and your answer is go to linux questions and use google. you are the worst support channel ever
[12:49] <dr_willis> netflix uses silverlight and its DRM. moonlight on linux dosent have the DRM feature. Ive heard netflix is working on a HTML5 version that will work on Linux/Google CHrome.
[12:49] <Pici> hiatus: I'm sorry that we provide support for our ditro.
[12:49] <hiatus> its not there os!its blooy gentoo and it was developed with canonical!
[12:49] <Pici> hiatus: Please calm down.
[12:49] <hiatus> there we go
[12:49] <IdleOne> call canonical then.
[12:49] <JakeR003> hey dr_willis. do you have a minute if you can in private. when you have time please
[12:49] <hiatus> i mad!
[12:49] <IdleOne> it is not Ubuntu
[12:49] <dr_willis> JakeR003,  make it fast.. watching the grandkids...
[12:49] <soerenbnoergaard> Halabund: Perhaps killall notification-daemon
[12:49] <gry> hiatus: If you don't like our support, please take the honors of leaving.  As it's volunteer support, it may need just a few minutes.  If you're impatient, the support may stop being an option for you right here right now.
[12:50] <BluesKaj> IdleOne, there was some spculation about netflix on ubuntu via the chromium browser using html5
[12:50] <Kumquat> How does one bridge connections in Ubuntu? I have a WIndows desktop that is connected to my Ubuntu laptop which has wireless access and I want to get Internet access to my desktop
[12:50] <BlackArchDog> hiatus: here is a link to your question .... I'm done http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1498854.html
[12:50] <locodir> anyone knows how to remove Plymouth from CD ?
[12:50] <coz_> hiatus,  its likely , as already mentioned, that the issue isnt with ubuntu or even linux..at this point ,  there isnt much anyone can do with making netflix work on ubuntu
[12:50] <Halabund> soerenbnoergaard, thanks!
[12:50] <diegows> does anyone know where is the LVM initializatio in Ubuntu at boot?
[12:50] <dr_willis> locodir,  you would have to remaster it.. may be easier to just set the default configs to disable it.
[12:50] <hiatus> your link is for june 1st. this update was yesterday
[12:52] <Pici> hiatus: Try #chromium-support
[12:52] <locodir> No Login screen : how can i change Plymouth in my UBUNTU from CD ?
[12:52] <soerenbnoergaard> Halabund: Now Alt-F2 and '/usr/lib/notification-daemon-1.0/notification-daemon start' or something like that to restart it I think
[12:52] <BlackArchDog> Hey did you read the part about roku which runs a linux os can run netflix, but because netflix wants to make money they keep the driver or protocol out of the hands of linux users ... Its called making money
[12:52] <dr_willis> !nomodeset | locodir
[12:52] <Pici> locodir: If you cannot provide a link or instructions or something to how you changed it then we cannot help you.
[12:52] <Pici> !ot | BlackArchDog
[12:53] <dr_willis> BlackArchDog,  the Boxee box - can also do netflix its running some linux vaiant also. with special stuff from netflix i belive.
[12:53] <Pici> dr_willis: Please use #ubuntu-offtopic, you know this.
[12:54] <BlackArchDog> dr_willis: cant talk about this I got haters here namely Pici
[12:54] <Kumquat> How does one bridge connections in Ubuntu? I have a WIndows desktop that is connected to my Ubuntu laptop which has wireless access and I want to get Internet access to my desktop
[12:54] <locodir> Pici -  sorry for that, bt the Site address is bookmarked in the UBUNTU partition
[12:54] <IdleOne> !ics | Kumquat
[12:55] <dr_willis> Im not even sure what the original question was... everyone is just ranting.
[12:55] <fuchan> #irc.anonops.ru
[12:55] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, netflix on chromium
[12:55] <BlackArchDog> dr_willis:  getting netflix to run in ubuntu
[12:55] <artista-frustrad> I'm having some trouble with keyboards using ncomputing thin clients with ubuntu. Udev detects all keyboards as "us" while it should be "abnt2". Is there a way to force all keyboards to be recongnized as "abnt2" ??
[12:55] <IdleOne> Please stop with the netflix topic.
[12:55] <JakeR003> guys is there a way to make you switch between two different sessions fast?
[12:56] <coz_> mentioning boxee as an alternative to netflix is not offtopic
[12:56] <norbert79> JakeR003: Sessions like GUI sessions? Alt+Fx makes the trick, if you want to switch beteween virtual consoles
[12:56] <linuxdoanpham> how to install driver wusb54gc in ubunru 11.4
[12:56] <JakeR003> FX what ?
[12:56] <JakeR003> you mean F1, F2?
[12:56] <norbert79> JakeR003: F1, F2, and so on...
[12:56] <JakeR003> ok
[12:57] <norbert79> JakeR003: Correction: Ctrl+Alt+Fx
[12:57] <JakeR003> how can i clone my current account into a new one with different name without losing all my settings and programs?
[12:58] <dr_willis> JakeR003,  copy your users home to the new users home dir.. and fix the ownerships
[12:58] <norbert79> JakeR003: Just create the new account and copy everything from your old HOME to the new one... Except for some specific settings everything should work as before
[12:58] <dr_willis> JakeR003,  why are you even bothering with this song and dance anyway? what are you running that needs this weirdness?
[12:58] <JakeR003> because i'm crazy
[12:59] <fuchan> #italy Operazione
[12:59] <dr_willis> I think you may want to spend some time learning  some linux fundamentals then..
[13:00] <BluesKaj> coz_, i don't think boxee is much good outside the US , maybe the UK might provide some of it's servies ...in Canada netfix is the only one
[13:00] <coz_> !ubuntu-it
[13:00] <dr_willis> JakeR003,  depending on what you are doing you can spawn a 2nd x session in its own 'window'
[13:00] <IdleOne> !it
[13:00] <coz_> BluesKaj,  understood :)
[13:00] <JakeR003> yeah that what i want.. can we talk in private again dr.willis
[13:00] <norbert79> IdleOne: fuchan is a bot, or acting like one... Just ignore
[13:01] <dr_willis> talk in the channel.. theres no need for priv. chating  to tutor you linux.
[13:01] <dr_willis> plus i may have to run off after a 2 yr old...
[13:01] <krux> he wants yo number
[13:01] <krux> :P
[13:01] <BlackArchDog> BluesKaj: try tekzilla on youtube on rocku there in San Fran running netfilx the box is 199 plus subscription
[13:01] <Kingsy> guys, I have a p6t asus motherboard with onboard RAID.. if I am running ubuntu how do I set the RAID up in the operating system ?
[13:01] <coz_> !pm
[13:01] <Kingsy> with windows see it was kinda automatic
[13:01] <bazhang> !ot | BlackArchDog
[13:01] <BluesKaj> BlackArchDog, I'm in Canada
[13:01] <fuchan> #italy
[13:02] <theadmin> BlackArchDog: Another Arch user I see?
[13:02] <norbert79> Kingsy: Well, Ubuntu installer provides you with that... But depends on what you would like to achive
[13:02] <theadmin> Someone ban fuchan
[13:02] <bazhang> fuchan, /join
[13:02] <Pici> BluesKaj, coz_, BlackArchDog, theadmin: Please move the conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:02] <norbert79> theadmin: You're theadmin, you do it :)
[13:02] <theadmin> norbert79: Um, that name is unrelated to #ubuntu
[13:02] <gry> ...
[13:02] <auronandace> !raid | Kingsy
[13:02] <Kingsy> norbert79: well I was just looking for a standard mirror RAID setup
[13:03] <norbert79> Kingsy: ^^
[13:03] <compdoc> Kingsy, onboard raid tends to be whats called 'fake raid' - it requires drivers to work, and those drivers are only available in windows
[13:03] <Kingsy> compdoc: huh? so onboard raid just doesnt work in linux?
[13:03] <chub_> hi I'm a gentoo user, and I need some translation from ubuntu to gentoo : this article explains the fix on ubuntu (http://froebe.net/blog/2010/01/22/suns-virtualbox-3-1-x-getting-vrdp-remote-desktop-to-authenticate-properly-with-linux-pam/) but the problem is, I don't have a shadow group on my gentoo system, so I would like to know what this shadow group is
[13:03] <norbert79> Kingsy: Onboard RAIDs aren't real RAIDs...
[13:04] <theadmin> chub_: Um, this isn't #gentoo you know
[13:04] <Kingsy> norbert79: agreed but still there must be a way of setting it up on ubuntu
[13:04] <compdoc> Kingsy, yup. However, you can disable the onboard and just use linux madam to create raid 1 mirrors, or, buy a real raid card
[13:04] <norbert79> chub_: The people who can have SUDO rights
[13:04] <coz_> chub_,   did you ask in the #gentoo channel ....yes?
[13:04] <Kingsy> oh ok, so you use linux to do the RAIDin ?
[13:04] <Pici> norbert79: no... Thats the admin group.
[13:04] <theadmin> norbert79: No, that's not "shadow". That's "admin", or more commonly "wheel"
[13:04] <norbert79> Oh, right
[13:04] <norbert79> mixed up them
[13:05] <BlackArchDog> chub, sorry they dont get the idea we use more then one distro
[13:05] <chub_> norbert79: aah ok.... so what is really happening there is that the user that executes virtualbox is actually doing so as user root?
[13:05] <compdoc> Kingsy, yes. Windows has the same thing
[13:05] <Pici> chub_: no. norbert79 was incorrect.
[13:06] <sudokill> chub_- what are you trying to do?
[13:06] <chub_> Pici: ok so what does this group have access to?
[13:06] <canurabus> Hi all. My package manager is very broken -- most things I try to get result in broken dependencies and so on. Trying to fix this in synaptic with Edit->Fix Broken Packages doesn't do anything. Could someone please help?
[13:06] <auronandace> !fixapt | canurabus
[13:06] <Vaati_> hello all
[13:07] <Vaati_> I am using ubuntu netbook edition, and it doesnt seem to have the "sg" kernel module -- is there any way I can add it?
[13:07] <chub_> coz_: yes I did, but they are confused to what the problem is...
[13:07] <coz_> chub_,  ok understood :)
[13:07] <TheFuzzball> I have an Apple Keyboard and pressing Alt+3 doesn't give me the hash character. How do I get the hash character in Ubuntu?
[13:07] <canurabus> auronandace: APT didn't crash, db isn't locked.
[13:08] <Halabund> what CJK fonts do you folks prefer on Ubuntu?  The default (whatever that is) is a bit blurry for my eyes, after getting used to antialiased Vista fonts.  Note that I'm just learning the language, so I'm more sensitive to this than natives who are used to the shapes already
[13:08] <Pici> chub_: /etc/shadow for one.
[13:08] <urlin2u> canurabus, synaptic will list dependencies.
[13:09] <BlackArchDog> canurabus: learn apt-get its easier
[13:09] <norbert79> Halabund: I use the ones normally which I also use in Windows. Ubuntu can handle Truetype fonts too
[13:09] <coz_> canurabus,  out of curiosity,, when you open a terminal   sudo apt-get update  && sudo apt-get install -f
[13:09] <compdoc> TheFuzzball, wouldnt that be shift-3 ?
[13:09] <sudokill> Halabund- try using full hinting in the font settngs
[13:09] <sudokill> its not as blurry
[13:09] <Halabund> norbert79, you mean you use YaHei / Meiryo on Ubuntu?
[13:10] <marduk666> having an issue with mounting a drive that's part of a raid 1 array, mdadm --assemble --scan gives me: mdadm: no devices found for /dev/md0
[13:10] <chub_> Pici: did you read that article I posted? because I would like to know if there is an alternative (e.g. /etc/pam.d/textfile or ...)
[13:10] <chub_> Pici: if you can suggest I look at something else
[13:10] <norbert79> Halabund: You can also tune the font rendering too... I am not familiar with none of those fonttypes, but if they are in OTF or TTF format, yes, why not
[13:10] <TheFuzzball> compdoc It's a British keyboard, Shift-3 gives me the pound symbol.
[13:10] <compdoc> ahh
[13:10] <theadmin> "pound"? Do you mean the octothorp?
[13:11] <theadmin> The #?
[13:11] <Halabund> norbert79, I mean, in my experience, Ubuntu renders fonts differently from Windows, so copying the Windows fonts over might very well give much worse results than using those that come with Ubuntu, and they'll usually look different on Ubuntu
[13:11] <marduk666> £ that
[13:11] <edbian> hahaha
[13:11] <auronandace> theadmin: £
[13:11] <theadmin> auronandace: What?
[13:11] <canurabus> coz_: here's the output: http://pastebin.com/TztSgRa5
[13:11] <auronandace> theadmin: thats the pound symbol
[13:11] <norbert79> Halabund: Did you try to to tune on the rendering going into the /Settings/Apperance menu?
[13:11] <TheFuzzball> theadmin The pound symbol (GBP) is £
[13:12] <IdleOne> theadmin: the currency symbol
[13:12] <theadmin> TheFuzzball: Ah
[13:12] <theadmin> IdleOne: Okay I get it
[13:12] <BluesKaj> british pound symbol
[13:12] <coz_> canurabus,   ok  try  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:12] <IdleOne> only took 4 tries.
[13:12] <TheFuzzball> theadmin I understand the confusion, because a lot of people call the hash (she, octothorpe, crunch, etc) pound too.
[13:13] <canurabus> coz_: what does that do? I don't want to upgrade my distro
[13:13] <theadmin> TheFuzzball: I see :D
[13:13] <compdoc> # = hash
[13:13] <Tiven> hey guys, anyone know if its possible to tunnel internet through SSH on ubuntu ?
[13:13] <coz_> canurabus,  that will not upgrade to a new version but it will upgrade the system you are on including upgrading software , library versions
[13:13] <ArtVanda1ae> Tiven, TCP protocols, yes (e.g. HTTP)
[13:14] <dr_willis> Tiven,  you can set up SSH tunnels to tunnel most everything yes.
[13:14] <urlin2u> canurabus, to fetch the key  sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys AED4B06F473041FA
[13:14] <Tiven> even on windows ?
[13:14] <BluesKaj> Tiven, yes
[13:14] <marduk666> having an issue with mounting a drive that's part of a raid 1 array, mdadm --assemble --scan gives me: mdadm: no devices found for /dev/md0
[13:14] <ArtVanda1ae> Tiven, yes, even on Windows
[13:14] <Tiven> i mean, i have server on ubuntu but my laptop has putty to connect to it remotely
[13:14] <ArtVanda1ae> Tiven, yes, Putty has an option for creating tunnels
[13:14] <canurabus> cheers
[13:15] <Tiven> i tried it but i must have done something wrong cause it didnt work
[13:15] <ArtVanda1ae> Tiven, what are you trying to tunnel?
[13:15] <Tiven> im supposed to set it on a port to forward on my machine right? nothing ubuntu side
[13:15] <Tiven> http would be nice ArtVanda1ae
[13:15] <ArtVanda1ae> Tiven, correct, nothing Ubuntu side
[13:15] <dr_willis> Tiven,  it pays spend an hr just reading up on ssh.. it can be a bit picky .  but a port forward is differnt then a tunnel..
[13:15] <rabbi1> Friends, I was just searching for a tool which keeps track of my internet usage ..... and alerts once crosses the specified databand.... :) any solution
[13:15] <dr_willis> Tiven,  my router port forwards the ssh port to the correct pc.. i can then tunnel to the pc.
[13:16] <Tiven> yeah dr_willis the thing is that i have no http traffic right now :/ so i cant read
[13:16] <dr_willis>  http://localhost:tunnelport   --> goes to the remote pc's web server. :)
[13:18] <Tiven> hey dr_willis i get ' No data received '
[13:18] <norbert79> rabbi1: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html ? You might take a look at this
[13:19] <asaccus> hi, does anyone know a way to monitor how many blocks of a harddrive where accessed?
[13:20] <rabbi1> norbert79: sorry, i entered a wrong search in google and good sentence here :)
[13:22] <marduk666> having an issue with mounting a drive that's part of a raid 1 array, mdadm --assemble --scan gives me: mdadm: no devices found for /dev/md0 -- disk could origin from a hw raid btw
[13:23] <BlackArchDog> canurabus: Found it the Pacman Rosetta chart: This chart will tell you every package manager option for every major distro if you what to do something use Ubuntu follow the chart to apt-get and it will tell you the format for getting apt-get to run command
[13:23] <BlackArchDog> canurabus: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman_Rosetta
[13:24] <canurabus> thats quite handy thanks :)
[13:25] <BlackArchDog> canurabus: this is reason we use different distro's cause every once in a while we make charts to help everyone across linux
[13:25] <escott> marduk666, are you sure it is an mdadm array
[13:26] <marduk666> escott: yea, pretty much... dmraid -r gives me ERROR: via: seeking device "/dev/sdb" to mdadm: no devices found for /dev/md0
[13:27] <marduk666> escott: as well as ERROR: nvidia: seeking device "/dev/sdb" to 18446744073709550592 among others
[13:27] <escott> marduk666, where did you get the array from
[13:27] <marduk666> from a hp server running win2009 r2
[13:27] <marduk666> 2008*
[13:27] <rabbi1> any gui tool replacing vnstat ?
[13:28] <escott> marduk666, then its not mdadm
[13:28] <marduk666> escott: yeah, supposed as much... any idea how to mount it?
[13:28] <rabbi1> norbert79: i read that, but all monitors, none keeps track of it and notifies me, vnstat is one good tool. but restart required every time.
[13:29] <MoooookiE> Hello, i have installed rubygems manually. But now if i want to install for example libapache2-mod-passenger it has rubygems as dependency and install the ubuntu version over my own. Is there a way to prevent this?
[13:29] <BlackArchDog> rabbi1: try conky small and helpful and you can edit your conky to look anyway you want it
[13:29] <aeiou_> hi there, does anyone know if there is an RFC explaining mail? i.e typical mail sent via sendmail
[13:30] <marduk666> escott: any ideas?
[13:30] <iceroot> http://nemo.its.uiowa.edu/reference/sendmail-rfc.html
[13:31] <aeiou_> iceroot, AH thanks
[13:31] <escott> marduk666, no
[13:31] <rabbi1> BlackArchDog: having a look....
[13:31] <t0ken> any linux sound ninjas up for helping troubleshoot a problem.  I'll pay if we can get it working
[13:31] <marduk666> escott: ok, crap :(
[13:31] <marduk666> does anyone know how to mount a hardware RAID?
[13:32] <marduk666> ActionParsnip: hello almighty wise hehe, would u happen to know how to mount a disk part of a hardware RAID?
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> marduk666: not used fake raid dude, sorry
[13:33] <marduk666> ActionParsnip: can i mount hw raid with fake raid?
[13:35] <BlackArchDog> t0ken: yes, help we don't except pay this is friendly ... linux is not windows...
[13:35] <nicofs> I'm looking for a program to organize and sort my music library, so that I have all songs in one folder, as "Song Name.extension". I have a lot of devices that get confused by folders... bulk ID3-Tag editing would be good aswell...
[13:35] <BlackArchDog> t0ken: ask your question
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> marduk666: you can only use hardware raid if you have a dedicated raid controller card rather than the garbage they put in home grade motherboards
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: easytag is a great MP3 tagger
[13:37] <marduk666> it's a disk from an HP server ActionParsnip
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> marduk666: then you may be able to tell mount to force mount it but it may cause issues
[13:38] <marduk666> for hw raid mounting, do i need the actual hw raid card? ActionParsnip
[13:38] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, actually, id3-tags are the minor problem... i don't want to shift and rename all files manually...
[13:38] <BlackArchDog> nicofs: doesn't windows manager already put them in alphabetical order???
[13:38] <marduk666> ActionParsnip: ok, now it's found as 0.0kb of /dev/sdb
[13:38] <marduk666> no partitions
[13:38] <nicofs> BlackArchDog, windows...?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: music apps usually use the tag, so if you arrange them well it will just work
[13:38] <sulav> what is ssh server for?
[13:39] <Halabund> in natty, how can I put "applets" on the panel on the top of the screen?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> sulav: its a veritable swiss army knife of ability
[13:39] <[THC]AcidRain> rhythmbox in 11.04 seems to load songs much much faster
[13:39] <somsip> sulav: allows you to remotely connect to your machine in a terminal
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> sulav: sftp, remote console, remote execution of graphical apps
[13:39] <Halabund> in natty, how can I put "applets" on the panel on the top of the screen?  Like weather indicator or a dictionary (these are what I'd like to have)
[13:39] <sulav> Halabund, can i connect to linux machi from windows?
[13:39] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, Banshee will create thousands of folders with one or two files in them each... i want all files in one root folder...
[13:40] <Halabund> sulav, how about using SSH?
[13:40] <conductor> Ciao a tutti
[13:40] <ParkerR> Is there anything like Snagit but on linux. Wanting to do a scrolling window screenshot
[13:40] <sulav> Halabund, just to learn
[13:40] <ParkerR> s/./?/
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: does it not look at the tag and put the artist tracks together?
[13:40] <[THC]AcidRain> nicofs, you can make a script to move them all
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> sulav: sure, use putty if you want SSH
[13:40] <ParkerR> ActionParsnip, !! :D I finally got the problem fixed yesterday
[13:40] <sulav> ActionParsnip, even in linux we have putty>?
[13:41] <[THC]AcidRain> isnt putty linux native? :/
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> ParkerR: you can use import from image magic in a simple script
[13:41] <ParkerR> ActionParsnip, have more details?
[13:41] <sulav> [THC]AcidRain, i saw it even in windows7
[13:41] <somsip> sulav: you can use putty under Linux, but I find it's not required with a decent/.ssh/config
[13:41] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, it does - that is the problem... they will be put in their respective folders after that - and that is what i don't want...
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> sulav: sure but you can SSH from terminal using:    ssh -X -C username@servername
[13:41] <[THC]AcidRain> sulav, thats where you messed up in life. looking at a win7 screen
[13:41] <honey_> still i coudnt install handbrake?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> nicofs: so you want ONE flat collection of songs?
[13:42] <nicofs> ActionParsnip, Exatly.
[13:42] <[THC]AcidRain> btw, sulav plz watch the language. the word w1nD0w is very offensive in here
[13:42] <bazhang> [THC]AcidRain, stop that
[13:42] <sulav> ActionParsnip, just sudo apt-get install ssh will make my linux machine a ssh server?
[13:42] <Hedgehog456> Is GNOME Shell functional on Natty yet?
[13:43] <bazhang> Hedgehog456, gnome3? nope
[13:43] <bretton> I gotta display problem. When I put a software fullscreen, it becomes all white.
[13:43] <[THC]AcidRain> bazhang, why do you never let me have any fun? it seems like im the outcast trouble maker in this classroom. :(
[13:43] <auronandace> !gnome3 | Hedgehog456
[13:43] <EgyParadox> sulav: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[13:43] <bretton> For example vlc when I read a video
[13:43] <Hedgehog456> Since I don't use Unity, probably ok.
[13:43] <auronandace> Hedgehog456: 11.10 will support gnome 3 though
[13:43] <Hedgehog456> Thanks bazhang, auronandace
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> ParkerR: import -window root MyScreenshot3.png        will take a screen shot of the current desktop, add that in a loop in bash with a small sleep to add a gap and it will work, there is also an app mentioned on omgubuntu to do the same
[13:44] <Halabund> In Natty, how can I put "applets" on the panel on the top of the screen?  Like weather indicator or a dictionary (these are what I'd like to have)
[13:44] <sulav> EgyParadox, how do we start the server?
[13:44] <sulav> EgyParadox, how do i get its docs
[13:44] <BlackArchDog> [THC]AcidRain: lol funny... :)
[13:45] <EgyParadox> sulav: sudo service ssh start
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> ParkerR: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/07/timelapse-video-created-ubuntu/
[13:45] <ParkerR> Hmm thanks
[13:45] <EgyParadox> sulav: man sshd
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> ParkerR: the script way is super simple though
[13:45] <sulav> EgyParadox, last help.what is my default password ?
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Halabund: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/02/indicator-weather-puts-temperature-on-panel/
[13:47] <rabbi1> BlackArchDog: you there? wonder how to start conky ....
[13:47] <Halabund> ActionParsnip, alright, that is pretty clear there: "For users unaware, the default Ubuntu desktop in Ubuntu 11.04 does not allow for the addition of traditional GNOME applets on the panel. Most of the features provided by these applets are now catered for elsewhere in Unity or can be acquired by installing extra indicator applets."  I did not know this.
[13:47] <EgyParadox> sulav: what default password?
[13:48] <bretton> I gotta display problem. When I put a software fullscreen, it becomes all white. For example vlc when I read a video.
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Halabund: me neither, I use LXDE so sidestep all that stuff
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> bretton: Which desktop do you use?
[13:48] <bretton> ActionParsnip: gnome
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> bretton: with compiz?
[13:48] <sulav> EgyParadox,  pswd for openssl
[13:49] <bretton> ActionParsnip: compiz fusion I think
[13:49] <bretton> so yes
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> bretton: same thing, if you use natty, log of and log in to the 'Ubuntu Classic' session. If you use Lucid or Maverick press ALT+F2 and run:  metacity --replace
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> bretton: this will take compiz out of the equation, is it still the same?
[13:50] <rabbi1> my ibus doesn't start at startup ... any clue why? i have added in startup applications
[13:50] <EgyParadox> sulav:try logging with your own password and username
[13:50] <bretton> ActionParsnip: but I won't have desktop effects with ubuntu classic ?
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> bretton: no but it's simply to test. It's not forever. It's called "Isolating the issue"
[13:51] <EgyParadox> bretten: There is Ubuntu Classic (no effects option)
[13:52] <EgyParadox> bretten: There is Ubuntu Classic (no effects) option
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> bretton: if its ok without effects then we KNOW what is causing the issue, don't we
[13:52] <bretton> ActionParsnip: ok I test if I have this problem
[13:53] <bretton> ActionParsnip: so the problem if the test works come from my video card driver ?
[13:53] <bretton> comes*
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> bretton: no it's compiz, not the video driver
[13:54] <bretton> oh
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> bretton: then you can start to find guides on issus like yours with compiz and ask in #compiz too :)
[13:55] <bretton> ok thx
[13:57] <BlackArchDog> hello
[13:57] <javier__> someone knows how can I change my public IP (if so is posible)?
[13:57] <escott> javier__, pay your isp
[13:58] <Gentoo64> javier__- like a proxy?
[13:58] <javier__> escott: what you mean? why pay? :P
[13:58] <BlackArchDog> me and [THC]AcidRaind started #cool_ubuntu were we dont boot you for change of topic come on over if you need real help...
[13:58] <compdoc> javier__, you dont pay for a static ipm address?
[13:58] <compdoc> ip
[13:58] <Majestik> javier__, that is likely to be controlled by your router, you could reboot it and see if it gets a new IP but its probably leased to the MAC address of your router anyway so you'll get the same one from the BRAS of your ISP
[13:58] <bretton> ActionParsnip: that was it :)
[13:58] <Ramses> morning
[13:58] <Majestik> short answer - no point lol
[13:58] <escott> javier__, they control your ip. you have to talk to them
[13:59] <Gentoo64> use tor
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> bretton: so now you know the root cause
[13:59]  * ActionParsnip thinks compiz causes too many issues
[13:59]  * auronandace concur
[14:00] <archman> is there a way to disable joins/parts/quits messages in empathy?
[14:00] <javier__> Majestik, escott: I guess that's it. I rebooted, but get the same ip all the time. The problem is that it looks like I share that ip with other people, and some internet services detect us as the same person, and I cannot use those services (like megaupload, web storage of files)
[14:00] <theadmin> archman: I dunno about empathy, but on irssi I'd do: /ignore * JOIN PART QUIT
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> bretton: so you can direct 100% of your effort finding out what the deal is with compiz as you KNOW that is the thing causing the issue
[14:00] <BlackArchDog> Imagine a IRC chat line were you could tell jokes, have fun and be cool to talk #cool_ubuntu is the place and get help
[14:00] <bretton> ActionParsnip: yeah, I'm on #compiz. I hope someone'll answer.
[14:00] <Gentoo64> javier__- you could use an anonymous proxy but most disable java etc to use them services anyway
[14:01] <archman> theadmin: yeah, i know about the irssi way, i'm gonna try it here...
[14:01] <archman> theadmin: unknown command
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> archman: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=599453
[14:01] <archman> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[14:01] <theadmin> archman: Silly empathy :/
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> yep
[14:02] <niko> 14
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> bretton: you could also search the bugs to see if it's been reported
[14:02] <Pici> BlackArchDog: Please don't advertise in this channel.
[14:02] <bretton> I'm on :-)
[14:02] <archman> theadmin, ActionParsnip, i've been using irssi for two years until i accidentally rm -rf'd my system completely (arch) so now i'm back in the out-of-the-box land :D (works good for now)
[14:03] <dr_willis> archman,  ive gotten where i perfer weechat to irssi these days
[14:03] <BlackArchDog> Pici: let me see I'm only the super genuis of this planet why hang out with me...?????? ;)
[14:03] <javier__> Gentoo64: yes... I could do that, I think I will. But it won't be solving the problem...
[14:03] <norbert79> Oh boy... Another bot
[14:03] <archman> theadmin: yeah, since I just don't want to spend days configuring my system anymore :/
[14:03] <Gentoo64> xchat is great
[14:04] <theadmin> archman: Switch to PM about that please.
[14:04] <archman> theadmin: if only i knew how to do that here :D
[14:04] <theadmin> archman: /query theadmin could work...
[14:04] <norbert79> archman: Double click a name or use /msg
[14:04] <norbert79> or that
[14:04] <archman> cheers
[14:04] <dr_willis> or right click on their name at the left side..
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> archman: should have backed up ~/.irssi ;)
[14:05] <archman> ActionParsnip: i have all my backups :)
[14:05] <archman> ActionParsnip: dunno if i should use irssi..
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> archman: try empathy a while, see which you like
[14:06] <archman> yup
[14:06] <BlackArchDog> archman: irssi is far better then all I have tested as far as irc relay
[14:06] <deem> irssi ftw!
[14:06] <archman> BlackArchDog: agreed!
[14:07] <norbert79> !offtopic | BlackArchDog
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> irc relay, not heard of that one
[14:08] <BlackArchDog> norbert79: Is every program that runs in ubuntu offtopic wow.... hmmm... I guess linux penguin is offtopic to... hmmm funny
[14:09] <bretton> C'est bon si je vais sur le site de ma carte pour rechercher un pilote libre ?
[14:09] <theadmin> !fr | bretton
[14:09] <bretton> sorry
[14:09] <CLN84> Could someone assist me with Could not display "network:///" Error: DBUS error org.freedesktop.dBUS.error.noreply:
[14:09] <IdleOne> BlackArchDog: Why do you insist on pushing the limits of our patience, please keep the commentary to a extreme minimum and help with Ubuntu.
[14:10] <BlackArchDog> I'm leaving what a joke... Your going isolate yourselves from the whole irc channel good luck... Figure out why know one is going to use ubuntu in the near future with these remarks good bye
[14:11] <Ramses> Kai, is that you?
[14:15] <diamonds> UNITY:
[14:15] <klingelbart> after installing packages via apt-get install, in wich directory are the files stored?
[14:15] <diamonds> how can I change the user image?
[14:15] <diamonds> user icon?
[14:16] <escott> klingelbart, depends. most binaries in /usb/bin but its not like windows there is no program files/program name directory
[14:16] <klingelbart> escott thx
[14:16] <klingelbart> excott: thx
[14:17] <designbybeck> has anyone tried this for Ubuntu 11.04? http://helmuthdu.deviantart.com/art/CONKY-Colors-244793180 Looks pretty sweet!
[14:17] <EgyParadox> klingeblart: You can check synaptic , it shows where files are installed for every package
[14:17] <diamonds> where's a good place for a file to share across users?
[14:17] <genii-around> klingelbart: If you look up a package on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ and go to the file list, it shows you the directories it puts all the files of that package into
[14:18] <ArtVanda1ae> diamonds, /tmp :)
[14:18] <dr_willis> theres rarey a need to go to where a program is installed to. :)
[14:18] <ArtVanda1ae> diamonds, note: you'll lose everything in /tmp when you restart the machine
[14:18] <minimec> klingelbart: base files and libs are stored in /usr/lib/yoursoftware. Shared stuff would be in /usr/share/yoursoftware; docs in /usr/share/doc/yoursoftware; systemwide configuration in /etc/yoursoftware; binary (launcher) in /usr/bin/
[14:18] <thunsucker> diamonds: you could also create a generic "share" user and store it in their home directory in a folder, then give permissions to that folder to the other users
[14:19] <diamonds> ArtVanda1ae: yeah that doesn't seem like the best place...
[14:19] <diamonds> I'm trying /home/me/public
[14:19] <diamonds> s/public/Public/
[14:19] <escott> diamonds, generally you put the users into the same group and then chgrp the file to that group. most $HOME is at least readable to others so I can create a file in my $HOME and share it to others by chgrp to their group
[14:19] <thunsucker> diamonds: that would work just gotta make sure you set the permissions correctly
[14:20] <Gentoo64> diamonds- or use a different drive / partition?
[14:20] <thunsucker> diamonds: dropbox is perfect for that
[14:21] <diamonds> heh...
[14:21] <yoshi_> yh
[14:21] <diamonds> I'm surprised there isn't some built in functionality for this
[14:21] <JakeR003> when i restart ubuntu how to boot into GRUB menu?
[14:21] <diamonds> "/home/shared" or something
[14:22] <yoshi_> Any 1 know why i can't turn on advenced vizualation desktop?
[14:22] <Gentoo64> JakeR003- i think hold shift
[14:22] <escott> diamonds, /home/shared presumes that there is only one group of users who need to share things
[14:22] <thunsucker> diamonds: i think that is what the user's Public Folder is for
[14:22] <mattgyver> JakeR003, hold down the shift key while rebooting I believe
[14:22] <diamonds> thunsucker: yeah but other users can't list it
[14:22] <diamonds> I'm checking the permissions now...
[14:22] <escott> thunsucker, diamonds public folder is for network sharing
[14:22] <mattgyver> JakeR003, sorry didnt see Gentoo64's response
[14:23] <diamonds> escott: ahhh...
[14:23] <yoshi_> any 1 know?
[14:23] <diamonds> escott: 755 Public/
[14:23] <compdoc> yoshi_, what is that?
[14:23] <diamonds> why can't I get a listing from another user?
[14:24] <escott> diamonds, thats the same set of permissions for every other folder in $HOME. there is some special logic to enable samba sharing of ~/Public
[14:24] <escott> diamonds, ls /home/joe
[14:24] <diamonds> why is permission for ls denied if I have x privs on the directory?
[14:25] <diamonds> is the whole home directory just "special" protected?
[14:25] <jrib> diamonds: because you need to be able to read
[14:25] <diamonds> jrib: I have that as well
[14:25] <diamonds> 755
[14:25] <escott> diamonds, by default you have the ability to browse joe's folder and see his filenames. you can even read his files, but you can't modify them or add files to his folder
[14:25] <diamonds> escott: not here...
[14:25] <jrib> diamonds: pastebin your terminal session and « ls -ld /path/to/directory/in/question »
[14:26] <Lacabra> hi penguins
[14:27] <Lacabra> I'm having a lot of problems configuring a LG screen
[14:27] <Mediii> Hi there
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Lacabra: what video chip does your video card use?
[14:27] <Lacabra> anyone can redirect to any tutorial that can halpme
[14:27] <Mediii> how can I get info about cpu and dusk usage ?
[14:27] <Lacabra> I'm looking for it
[14:27] <Mediii> is there any command for that ? I m working with a repote server
[14:28] <Mediii> remote*
[14:28] <usr13> Mediii: top
[14:28] <Lacabra> I use a small toshiba netbook with a external 21,5" display
[14:28] <usr13> Mediii: and  df
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Mediii: df -h
[14:28] <thunsucker> diamonds: here is a simple solution. create a group called 'family', add your users to that group, make a directory /home/family, change owner of that directory to family:root, add a shortcut to each user's desktop with the path
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Lacabra: again, what is the video chip?
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Mediii: top    will show you CPU usage
 I'm looking for it
[14:29] <thunsucker> diamonds: oops actually change owner to diamonds:family
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Lacabra: lspci | grep -i vga
[14:29] <thunsucker> that way you own it, and they have access
[14:29] <minimec> Lacabra: open a terminal and give us the result of 'lspci | grep VGA'
[14:29] <Mediii> thanks usr13 ActionParsnip
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Mediii: or:  sudo apt-get install sysstat; sudo mpstat
[14:29] <escott> diamonds, ls requires read permissions. it is possible to cd into a directory but not have read permissions.
 Now I'm nos using linux, I'm back to windows beacause of the screen, but I'm trying to get back to linux again beacause windows is so extremely slow
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Lacabra: either OS will tell you the chip
[14:30] <escott> diamonds you could use that to "hide" a folder inside another folder. revoke read on the directory, and only those who know the other folder inside it exists will be able to cd into the inner folder
[14:31] <diamonds> http://i.imgur.com/gDvnZ.png
[14:31] <jrib> diamonds: ls -ld /home/sequoia   please do not use imgur to paste text
[14:32] <diamonds> jrib: it was to show you the two different users
[14:32] <diamonds> jrib: 700
[14:32] <jrib> diamonds: well there you go
[14:33] <diamonds> OK so you can't list a dir with 777 you don't have read perms on the parent?
    here it is Mobile Intel® GMA 950
[14:33] <jrib> diamonds: if you don't have executable permissions on all parent directories, yes...
[14:33] <diamonds> x or r?
[14:33] <jrib> diamonds: x...
[14:33] <escott> diamonds, did you chmod o-x on $HOME
[14:34] <jnsl_> when i run free in my terminal, to see what memory is available, is it displaying the numbers in mb or ?
[14:34] <escott> jnsl_, free --help
[14:34] <Faiob1> bonjour tout le monde
[14:34] <usr13> jnsl_: k
[14:34] <jrib> jnsl_: free -m  for megabytes
[14:34] <diamonds> escott: nope
[14:34] <diamonds> that's ootb 11.04
[14:35] <somsip> !fr | Faiob1
[14:35] <tonysan> I am rescuing a hard disk using ddrescue, the message "end_request:I/O error keeps coming out, makes it hard to track the progress, any way to suppress that message?
[14:35] <jrib> tonysan: grep -v would be one way...
[14:35] <JakeR003> guys i started two accounts sessions but i can't switch between them using ctrl+alt+Fx
[14:35] <Faiob1> merci ubottu
[14:35] <escott> diamonds, as jrib indicated the permissions on /home/sequoia block anyone but sequoia himself from accessing the folder
[14:36] <jnsl_> i need to adjust how much memory jvm can use for my app, but where i specify it the existing number is: 1024m ..is m for mb?
[14:36] <compdoc> end_request:I/O error is a bad thing
[14:36] <diamonds> escott: I read what he wrote...
[14:36] <tonysan> jrib: I am pretty a newbie to regular expression...
[14:36] <jnsl_> thanks jrib
[14:36] <jrib> tonysan: so just type the message verbatim
[14:36] <diamonds> I was replying to you asking if I chmod'd $HOME
[14:36] <diamonds> ty everyone!
[14:37] <tonysan> jrib: could you show me some example?
[14:37] <t0ken> hi folks, so how can I increase the number of workspaces/desktops in natty/gnome ?
[14:37] <jrib> tonysan: echo 'foo\nbar' | grep -v 'foo'
[14:37] <usr13> JakeR003: Are you saying you can not go from one console tty to another?
[14:38] <usr13> JakeR003: Like Ctrl-Alt-F6   &  Ctrl-Alt-F7  ?
[14:38] <patrickindia> Hi!I need a little help with ubuntu dialup.
[14:38] <jrib> !dialup | patrickindia
[14:38] <JakeR003> usr13 if i use switch user it ask for a password to unlock screen - ctrl + alt + Fx is not working at all
[14:39] <escott> diamonds, do you have encrypted home? maybe thats why your permissions are different
[14:39] <minimec> Lacabra: the GMA950 is supported for a long time, even though there have been regressions due to changes in the xserver architecture. What exactly do you want to do? A dual screen setup? In that case, it could be, that your settings do reach the maximal resolution capacity of the card. Maybe take a lower resolution on the laptop and try to activate the external screen.
[14:39] <diamonds> escott: I did tick that box, yes
[14:39] <diamonds> escott: ty that's probably it!
[14:40] <usr13> JakeR003: I'm not sure what you are asking.  Ctrl-Alt-F6 should take you to tty6 and Ctrl-Alt-F5 should take you to tty5  If not, there is something basically wrong with your system.
[14:40] <patrickindia> I specifically want help with bluetooth dialup.I went through official bluetooth dialup documentation,but I couldn't get it working!
[14:41] <Guest69916> greetings ;]
[14:41] <usr13> JakeR003: But yes, for sure, if you switch to another user, you will need to provide a password for that user.
[14:41] <minimec> Lacabra: --> http://forum.notebookreview.com/1539840-post7.html
[14:41] <patrickindia> please help...
[14:41] <patrickindia> with bluetooth dialup
[14:41] <canurabus> hi I was told to run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade to fix broken packages on my system. One of the packages it tried to isntall (some perl lib) went into an infinite loop and I had to kill the process. Now if I try to run apt or synaptic, it tells me to run dpkg --configure -a first. I do that... and it tries to install the stupid package that caused the infinite loop in the first place putting me back to square one. Can someone help?
[14:42] <jrib> canurabus: pastebin what happens exactly with this infinite loop
[14:42] <usr13> canurabus: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade is not for fixing broken packages.   sudo apt-get -f install  may be what you are looking for.
[14:42] <canurabus> I can take a screen shot, it's an infinite loop... too fast to copy/past anything.
[14:43] <usr13> canurabus: If you did   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   you need to be patient, it will take a LONG time.
[14:43] <jrib> canurabus: well you can kill it and pastebin what's left on your screen (from the start)
[14:43] <Younder> user13: ?
[14:43] <Guest69916> can someone refer me to instructions on how to restore the grub bootloader to my system? I had always used a rescatux live cd to accomplish this but after loading a non-linux OS ontop of my linux instance, my bootloader is gone.
[14:44] <hwilde> !fixgrub | Guest69916
[14:44] <Synthead> anyone have experience with an ubuntu kickstart here?
[14:44] <usr13> !dist-upgrade | canurabus
[14:44] <t0ken> so fyi, when doing big long upgrade things like that.  you can grab all the output by piping things to 'tee' like "sudo apt-get blah | tee logfile.txt"
[14:44] <Younder> Guest69916, If you have installed it on top of you linux that is the least of your problems.
[14:44] <patrickindia> I need help with bluetooth dialup fellows,my phone does not has a DUN profile
[14:44] <usr13> Hummm... seems they've changed the function of dist-upgrade    I am mistaken... I think...
[14:45] <canurabus> okay so there's a ton of information being given out here. I'm *not* trying to upgrade my distro. I can't install anything on it because packages are broken. I was told, *in this channel* that running the dist-upgrade cmd with apt would fix my dependencies, and specifically not upgrade my distro version.
[14:45] <canurabus> here's a screenshot of the loop: http://imgur.com/AFJaD
[14:46] <bazhang> usr13, dist-upgrade does not upgrade versions
[14:46] <Synthead> user --disabled seems to be ignored in my kickstart.
[14:46] <usr13> bazhang: It used to...
[14:46] <bazhang> usr13, nope
[14:46] <mgolisch> sure it does..
[14:46] <dr_willis> distt-upgrade is a more intenvive uggrade
[14:46] <patrickindia> #leave
[14:46] <Pici> usr13: Only if you modified your sources.list as well.
[14:46] <mgolisch> if you changed your sources
[14:46] <Younder> Guest69916, In order to install a widows OS after linux you have to establish a first partion sda1  exclusively for windows. For windows 7 you will need a sdb1 as well if you have a second disk. This must be done with the partion tool BEFORE installing it.
[14:46] <dr_willis> not sure abiut dust-upgrade fixing a briken ststem
[14:47] <klingelbart> what is the terminal command to open a folder?
[14:47] <Younder> Guest69916, Now you have little choice but a reinstall
[14:47] <escott> diamonds, you cannot safely enable any other users to read your home folder with the encrypted home enabled. you will have to create a folder to share outside of $HOME
[14:47] <iuri> Hi there, Is there any problems with ubuntu maverick apt-get repos?
[14:47] <diamonds> escott: ty!
[14:47] <mokti> Is anyone here running Ubuntu on a ThinkPad T420?
[14:47] <nstridesout_> anyone with a webmin installation manual?
[14:47] <iuri> i can`t eve run apt-get upadte
[14:48] <nstridesout_> mokti: Oh yes
[14:48] <usr13> irenicus09: sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:48] <dr_willis> nstridesout_: best to not use webmin on ubuntu
[14:48] <usr13> Pici: Ahhh ok. That's it
[14:48] <Pici> iuri: Do you get an error?
[14:48] <om26er> is there a way i could remove bluetooth icon from the panel?
[14:48] <mokti> nstridesout_: Were there any initial compatability issues with it? How old is it?
[14:48] <nstridesout_> dr_willis: why?
[14:49] <minimec> iuri: Do you get any error messages running 'sudo apt-get update'?
[14:49] <dr_willis> !webmin
[14:49] <fmauro> om26er: click on it, and go to preferences, then uncheck the "Show bluetooth icon" box
[14:49] <iuri> Pici,  nope. it only ggets stuck on 0%
[14:49] <nstridesout_> ubottu: thanks for the info
[14:49] <Monotoko> what should I use instead of webmin?
[14:50] <iuri> minimec,   nope. it only ggets stuck on 0%
[14:50] <Synthead> nobody knows?
[14:50] <Monotoko> is there anything as good as or better than webmin?
[14:50] <canurabus> how do I stop dpkg from installing any thing it might have queued up
[14:50] <nstridesout_> mokti: i actually helped install ubuntu yesterday on her thinkpad, those that came with vista, i dont remember the model
[14:51] <dr_willis> Monotoko:  i just use ssh. peehaps ebox
[14:51] <arnaudf> l
[14:51] <nstridesout_> monotoko: good question
[14:51] <dr_willis> !ebox
[14:51] <arnaudf> Hey guys, I have a GeForce Go 6800 Ultra which driver for ubuntu lucid do i need to install?
[14:51] <w3bg33k> does anyone here have experience with symantecs ralus agent?  i can't get it to install on 10.04 due to some dependencies that don't seem to be available anymore
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-current lucid
[14:52] <arnaudf> Acidpunk, thank you
[14:52] <iuri> minimec, any ideas why that could be
[14:52] <iuri> ?
[14:52] <w3bg33k> ie (libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2)
[14:52] <Younder> arnaudf, I think so.. at least I did
[14:52] <arnaudf> thanks
[14:52] <arnaudf> :)
[14:52] <arnaudf> installing now
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> arnaudf: should use a newer one, let me get  a link. Any particular reason to use lucid?
[14:52] <minimec> iuri: Would you be able to install software? Let's take imwheel for example. It's a one package software whitout dependencies. Would 'sudo apt-get install imwheel' give you any hint?
[14:52] <arnaudf> just not updated
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> arnaudf: i see
[14:53] <arnaudf> it scares me, i have too much stuff and im happy where i am at
[14:53] <arnaudf> :)
[14:53] <_pr0t0type_> Hey guys, is there any where I can learn how to read the iptable -L output?  I haven't had success on google
[14:53] <jrib> !iptables | _pr0t0type_
[14:54] <iuri> minimec, yes, i can download ubuntu .deb packages and install them with dpkg -i
[14:54] <Younder> arnaudf, make sure you know you know how to restore from backup before switching ;)
[14:54] <arnaudf> dont say that
[14:54] <arnaudf> hehe
[14:54] <Ramses> gomenasai, gomenasai...
[14:54] <theadmin> !jp | Ramses
[14:54] <fmauro> _pr0t0type_: you mean the syntax? or does it not display?
[14:54] <Ramses> arigato
[14:54] <arnaudf> ok installed without errors, going to reboot, wish me luck!! :)
[14:55] <minimec> iuri: But you have to download them manually? You cannot use 'sudo apt-get install imwheel' for example?
[14:55] <iuri> minimec, that is the line where it gets stuck? 0% [Connecting to br.archive.ubuntu.com (200.236.31.4)] [Connecting to extras.u
[14:55] <iuri> minimec, no
[14:55] <arnaudf> actually
[14:55] <arnaudf> uh oh
[14:55] <arnaudf> GeForce Go 6800 Ultra
[14:55] <iuri> minimec, i cant
[14:55] <arnaudf> Errors were encountered while processing:
[14:55] <_pr0t0type_> fmauro: no, I mean like the columns, and what all the fields mean.  Like for instance 'port opt source'
[14:55] <arnaudf>  nvidia-current
[14:55] <FloodBot1> arnaudf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:55] <_pr0t0type_> I mean
[14:55] <arnaudf> how do i find out what the errors where?
[14:55] <_pr0t0type_> 'prot opt source'
[14:55] <iuri> minimec, btw, no proxy is set up
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> arnaudf: install the package in terminal, you will get decent details. You can add this PPA to get a later driver which may help:  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates?field.series_filter=lucid
[14:56] <fmauro> _pr0t0type_: how about http://aplawrence.com/Linux/iptables.html
[14:56] <nstridesout_> anyone with proxies i can use
[14:56] <klingelbart> I'm using unity. I wanna create a symbol in my panel wich opens a special folder in nautilus. how do i do that?
[14:56] <klingelbart> I'm using unity. I wanna create a symbol in my panel wich opens a special folder in nautilus. how do i do that?
[14:56] <Younder> arnaudf, /var/log/messages
[14:56] <klingelbart> sry, wante to type it 1x
[14:56] <_pr0t0type_> fmauro: thanks, it looks like a good iptables source
[14:56] <_pr0t0type_> I will look into it
[14:57] <arnaudf> Younder, it said nothing in messages and the terminal info just said what i pasted..
[14:57] <arnaudf> :(
[14:57] <minimec> iuri: CAn you open the synaptic package software once to see if it gives you any messages?
[14:57] <Younder> arnaudf, /var/log/sysinfo
[14:57] <arnaudf> ill pastebin full error Younder
[14:57] <trism> klingelbart: right click the desktop, create launcher, and enter: nautilus /path/to/directory; as the command, then drag and drop the desktop file to your launcher
[14:58] <klingelbart> kk thx
[14:58] <klingelbart> is it possible to edit such a launcher file?
[14:58] <klingelbart> after it is created?
[14:58] <nstridesout_> a friend's ubuntu software center cannot open. what can i do to help them?
[14:58] <trism> klingelbart: yes, you can also copy it to another folder in nautilus before dragging it to the launcher if you don't want it on your desktop too
[14:59] <arnaudf> http://codepad.org/ekFfYyTZ <-- Younder any ideas?
[14:59] <fmauro> nstridesout_: no error message? how about running from terminal?
[14:59] <klingelbart> trism: thx
[14:59] <Younder> nstridesout_, sounds lie a python problem. Did he install a new version in /usr/local/bin ?
[14:59] <nstridesout_> fmauro:it opens but it freezes either way!
[15:00] <fmauro> and there's no message whatsoever indicating the freeze in the terminal output?
[15:00] <klingelbart> are ther invisible files in nautilus (as in windows directorys?)
[15:00] <trism> klingelbart: type ctrl+h to see the hidden files/folders (they start with a . )
[15:00] <usr13> Once you get a system upgraded to 10.04, and you want it to stick with LTS,  How is that done?
[15:01] <nstridesout_> younder: i think you might be right because the system update was not complete. i had just installed 11.04 on her thinkpad. i used the synaptic center to install other applications thoough!
[15:01] <Younder> arnaudf, lines 23 and 24 in that script give the location
[15:01] <klingelbart> trism: thx, got it. do all hidden folders start with an "." ?
[15:01] <minimec> iuri: Next step would also be to try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' in a console
[15:02] <tuntun> good eve
[15:02] <tuntun> any natty users here?
[15:02] <jrib> tuntun: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[15:03] <trism> klingelbart: all folders starting with a . will be hidden, whether to can hide one another way, I don't know
[15:03] <klingelbart> trism: thx
[15:03] <theadmin> trism: No other way
[15:03] <tuntun> I have a question how can I know that my intel graphic card drivers is installed?
[15:03] <jrib> trism, klingelbart: nautilus will also hide files listed in a .hidden file
[15:03] <mokti> Are there usually compatability problems with NVIDIA cards?
[15:03] <Younder> nstridesout_,  /usr/local/bin is searched befor /usr/bin and if you install a ner version that version takes control.  System software SHOLD use absolute filepaths, but is DOESN'T.
[15:04] <klingelbart> jrib: thx
[15:04] <tuntun> I have a question how can I know that my intel graphic card drivers is installed? im using ubuntu 11.04
[15:04] <theadmin> !repeat | tuntun
[15:04] <nstridesout_> Younder: thanks
[15:05] <bazhang> tuntun, are you using unity? or classic
[15:05] <tuntun> unity sir
[15:06] <bazhang> tuntun, then the drivers should be there and working
[15:06] <bazhang> tuntun, not unity-2d then
[15:07] <edgy> Hi, I am new to snort. I just installed it with acidbase in ubuntu. I did nmap 192.168.15.3 but localhost/acidbase shows Portscan Traffic (0%)
[15:08] <tuntun> bazhang: not very familliar with unity  and gno but all I know is it's unity.
[15:08] <mokti> Does anyone in here know a lot about hardware compatiability? Can I prv msg you with some specs?
[15:09] <theadmin> !hardware | mokti
[15:09] <bazhang> mokti, ask here
[15:09] <mokti> NVIDIA Quadro 1000M Graphics with 2GB DDR3 Memory
[15:09] <mokti> I'll take a look at the pages you linked
[15:10] <EgyParadox> edgy:Did you check the interface?
[15:11] <tuntun> bazhang: sir I found out my natty 11.04 is using classic desktop 2ith 2 panels
[15:11] <JakeR003> guys i created a 2nd account and the programs in the first account is not there. i did this sudo cp -R --preserve * /home/newuser
[15:11] <JakeR003> it only copid few trash into my account
[15:11] <JakeR003> i need the programs
[15:11] <JakeR003> not useless shortcuts and folders for music and videos
[15:11] <theadmin> JakeR003: You forgot the .files
[15:12] <JakeR003> tell me how
[15:12] <bazhang> tuntun, whats the graphics chipset please
[15:12] <theadmin> JakeR003: sudo cp -R ~/.* /home/newuser/
[15:12] <edgy> EgyParadox: it seems you are right, ps -ef |grep snort shows snort -i eth0 though my interface is wlan0, where is the file to set this?
[15:12] <JakeR003> ok thanks
[15:12] <pigiman> Hey, I tried to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf by adding Option "SHMConfig" 'on' ('true'\'1'), and now I`m trying to open "gsynaptics" and I still see an error about setting "SHMConfig" to 'true' , any ideas?
[15:12] <Cerrdor> whats the official python channel?
[15:13] <kernix> hi all
[15:13] <Cerrdor> ohai
[15:13] <theadmin> Cerrdor: #python of course.
[15:13] <Cerrdor> anyone know thew official python channel?
[15:15] <usr13> Once you get a system upgraded to 10.04, and you want it to stick with LTS,  How is that done?    In other words, if you have an 8.04 system that has the Update Manager set to LTS and you do sudo do-release-upgrade  Will it do a distribution upgrade to 8.10 or 10.04?
[15:16] <bazhang> usr13, keep it set to recognize only LTS option
[15:16] <bazhang> usr13, which will be 12.04
[15:16] <mokti> ubottu: I don't see the card listed anywhere, does that mean it isn't compatible?
[15:17] <alakoo> hella
[15:18] <mokti> bazhang: I looked on the certified hardware list, and couldn't find the graphics card I'm looking at, does that mean that it wont work, or it isnt confirmed to work?
[15:18] <bazhang> mokti, whats the card please
[15:18] <theadmin> mokti: Isn't confirmed. NVidia hardware typically works well
[15:19] <theadmin> bazhang:
[15:19] <theadmin> 19:08 < mokti> NVIDIA Quadro 1000M Graphics with 2GB DDR3 Memory
[15:19] <PakistanScript4-> Asalam-o-alikum to Every one around and watching
[15:20] <bazhang> PakistanScript4-, hi
[15:20] <mokti> Quadro 1000M Graphics
[15:20] <mokti> bazhang: NVIDIA Quadro 1000M Graphics with 2GB DDR3 Memory
[15:20] <bazhang> mokti, ok checking now
[15:20] <djk> Is there any way to reduce the unity launcher icon below 32?
[15:21] <takpar> hi all
[15:22] <theadmin> mokti: nvidia.com has Linux drivers for your card.
[15:22] <theadmin> mokti: It's supported, therefore.
[15:23] <bazhang> mokti, thinkpad w520?
[15:23] <mokti> bazhang: yes
[15:23] <mokti> theadmin: thanks!
[15:23] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1757821 mokti check this please
[15:24] <clubberx> Just installed the Unity2D updates via update manager and now have 2 instances of the launcher starting?!?
[15:24] <bazhang> clubberx, two unity-2d panels?
[15:24] <clubberx> yes
[15:24] <bazhang> clubberx, screenshot?
[15:24] <Pici> mokti: I haven't fully read what you're asking, but I find http://www.thinkwiki.org/ a great resource for Linux on ThinkPads. (I have a T60 myself)
[15:24] <Teknomancer> is there a way to launch gnome-terminal with "always on top" set via a script?
[15:24] <clubberx> one as before one with some obvious style updates
[15:25] <Teknomancer> this is for an automated session so no mouse-clicks etc.
[15:25] <bazhang> Pici, its the optimus issue
[15:25] <Pici> bazhang: ahhh
[15:25] <Teknomancer> i've been checking 'wmctrl' hmm
[15:26] <feyd> I started my computer and GDM cannot login to the standard Xsession, XFCE session, or user defined session
[15:26] <feyd> it flickers and bumps back to the gdm login
[15:27] <clubberx> A bit hard to screen cap - as you can't see both at once, one slides over the other
[15:27] <bazhang> feyd, full /home ?
[15:27] <bazhang> err ~/home
[15:27] <UncleLaz> test
[15:27] <theadmin> bazhang: err, ~.
[15:27] <bazhang> argh
[15:27] <bazhang> UncleLaz, success
[15:28] <tuntun> bazhang sorry for the late reply the chipset for my intel graphic card is intel GMA 4500M
[15:28] <feyd> bazhang: I'm sorry?
[15:28] <theadmin> feyd: Does the partition on which your home folder is have free space?
[15:28] <javier__> hi! I have a problem with grub2. I have 2 SO, kubuntu 11.04 and windows 7. In grub2, keyboard doesn't work, so I can't go to windows7. Only after 10 seconds countdown kubuntu is selected. I'm in a laptop
[15:28] <mokti> bazhang: It seems like some people at that link have it working, and some dont
[15:28] <javier__> (so, laptop's keyboard
[15:29] <feyd> theadmin: it has about 20 gigs of free space, so yes
[15:29] <theadmin> bazhang: ^
[15:29]  * theadmin is a bazhang-to-English translator I guess xD
[15:29] <bazhang> feyd, out of how much total
[15:29] <feyd> theadmin: would my errors be logged in .xsession-errors?
[15:29] <theadmin> feyd: Likely.
[15:30] <mokti> bazhang: I might be willing to pick it up and do some workarounds, do you think that they will get the drivers working correctly any time soon?
[15:30] <theadmin> javier__: Dig around in your BIOS... Sounds like an issue there
[15:30] <feyd> bazhang: im not currently on the comp in question, but I believe it's probably something like 29/32 gigs free,  i forgot exact numbers but there is ample space
[15:30] <bazhang> mokti, that has solved on it, perhaps check launchpad.net for other possible workarounds
[15:31] <mokti> bazhang: They did solve it? It looked like some people still couldnt get it working (I dont have the machine yet I'm considering purchasing it)
[15:31] <mokti> bazhang: I guess I should have looked at the thread title lol
[15:31] <bazhang> mokti, the thread is marked <solved>, so yeah
[15:32] <javier__> theadmin: thanks, I will try that. Only thing is that it's my brother's laptop, and we are in different cities. We will try :)
[15:32] <theadmin> javier__: I understand so well, that's just like me trying to help my girlfriend :D
[15:32] <ccvvcc> http://pastebin.com/RnC4aDmi
[15:32] <javier__> theadmin: hehehe
[15:32] <tuntun> how to know if my intel GMA 4500M is installed?
[15:33] <mokti> bazhang: thanks for all the help
[15:33] <Frank_> Hello all! I have an issue with Ubuntu - it suddenly freezes after I start FireFox (or anything related to Internet) Now it dod not crash and I looked up syslog - thats what it says http://paste.ubuntu.com/664341/ Anyone an advice what to do? (Ubuntu 11.04)
[15:34] <fede> Hi, I've just installed Ubuntu 11.04, and my firefox crashes for about everything (even with flash uninstalled). libflashplayer.so an libfontconfig.so appear on the reports
[15:35] <fede> @Frank I'm having the same problems with Firefox (even with Chromium)
[15:35] <fede> @Frank_ I'm having the same problems with Firefox (even with Chromium)
[15:35] <Frank_> fede: I dont think your system freezes :P Or does it?
[15:35] <tuntun> fede: why not use google chrome?
[15:35] <Kyle__> fede: Frank_: did you run all the updates?  bounce the box when it asked to?
[15:36] <fede> @Frank_ no, my system won't freeze, only my browser. I need firebug :P
[15:36] <usr13> I think I found the answer:  (Someone correct me if I am wrong.)  If the line in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades says "Prompt=lts" do-release-upgrade will only look for LTS. If the line says "Prompt=lts"  it will just go to next release.  ...Right?
[15:36] <fede> @Kyle__ yes, I've run every updates available.
[15:37] <Kyle__> usr13: long term stable, but not the interem releases, like the .08s.
[15:37] <theadmin> fede: This is no twitter, you don't have to put @ before usernames.
[15:37] <tuntun> can't P2P connection with my natty.. how come? when I was till using 10.10 it was still okay?
[15:38] <mokti> Okay, I'm finding another compatibility problem
[15:38] <mokti> the wireless card
[15:38] <Kyle__> fede: Most IRC clients will auto-highlight lines that start with your nick.
[15:39] <mokti> Has anyone used a Thinkpad b/g/n card? I cant find anything in the online ubuntu documentation
[15:39] <Pici> mokti: Which adpater?
[15:39] <fede> Kyle__; thanks for the tip, any ideas on how to fix my Firefox? I don't even need the latest version
[15:39] <Kyle__> mokti: use lspci or dmidecode to dig out the exact card.
[15:40] <mokti> on the ThinkPad ordering site it says its a ThinkPad b/g/n, nothing else. I don't have the laptop, Im thinking about getting it
[15:40] <Pici> mokti: Did you look at that website I gave you?
[15:40] <usr13> And the do-release-upgrade command came to us in 2009 ?   Is that correct?
[15:40] <Kyle__> fede: Sadly no.  I've had problems due to firefox before, but not the one you're experiencing. You say it's dying every time you launch firefox, or just when you open a page with flash?
[15:40] <mokti> Pici: no, I was looking at the online wifi documentation, Ill take a look at that page, thanks
[15:41] <fede> Kyle__: it launches ok, but crash on random pages, not only the ones with flash. It even crashed at google!
[15:41] <Kyle__> fede: Umm.  Is the box otherwise stable?
[15:42] <fede> Kyle__: I think so. I've struggled installing both Nvidia and PCI Wifi drivers. Could that be the problem? A buggy driver?
[15:42] <Kyle__> fede: I suppose it could be, but wouldn't jump to that quite yet...
[15:43] <Kyle__> fede: Did you make any alterations, like say, turning off swap?
[15:43] <TemporalBeing1> quick question: is #ubuntu-app-devel still alive? I couldn't find it in the room list (and it'd probably be more appropriate for my question)
[15:43] <usr13> My question really is:  does the "Prompt-lts"  line in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades  limit the function of update-manager, or does it also limit the function of  do-relese-upgrade?
[15:43] <fede> Kyle__: mmm, no. But I've installed my custom partitioning set ( 3 partitions: / , /home, swap )
[15:44] <javier__> theadmin: what do you think about "boot-repair"?
[15:44] <Kyle__> fede: K.  Make sure swap is indeed being used.
[15:44] <usr13> One or both?
[15:44] <tuntun> where can I learn how to know more about ubuntu? any suggested sites?
[15:44] <fede> Kyle_
[15:44] <fede> Kyle__ : how can I check my swap?
[15:44] <mokti> Pici: the website says it is supported with kernel 2.6.34 and newer
[15:44] <bazhang> !manual | tuntun
[15:44] <bazhang> !wiki | tuntun here too
[15:45] <mokti> Pici: Actually, I looked at another card that I could order with it and it said it is supported with that kernel
[15:45] <theadmin> I'm going to idle for now. javier__ and anyone else expecting my help, ask someone else.
[15:45] <Kyle__> fede: look in /proc/swaps or /proc/meminfo.  Or even just run top
[15:45] <mokti> thanks for the help, I'll keep that website
[15:45] <yichi> hello
[15:45] <Pici> mokti: Then you don't need to do anything if you're planning on running anything as new as or newer than maverick.
[15:46] <tuntun> bazhang,ubottu: thank you much appreciated
[15:47] <love4linux> does anyone know a simple pdf reader that allows highlighting of text? I use foxit reader on windows which is great but the linux version of foxit is does not support highlight
[15:47] <mongy> anyone know how to get evolution to automatically add a couple of line feeds to a message.. as it is, if I forward inline or have a signature, it puts my cursor right on the same line as the sig or forwarded text.
[15:47] <fede> Kyle__ : my swap (8gb) is not being used, but I guess is because I've installed 4gb ram
[15:48] <usr13> love4linux: From what I have seen xpdf will on some pdfs but not all of them.  Not sure about Abobe Reader.... I should check
[15:48] <ccvvcc> my ubuntu is damaged
[15:48] <ccvvcc> http://pastebin.com/RnC4aDmi
[15:48] <Kyle__> fede: K.  But it's there, which is important.
[15:48] <usr13> love4linux: I always thought it depended on the pdf document, and how it was created.
[15:48] <love4linux> usr13 adobe reader pro will do the job but is not free
[15:48] <ccvvcc> sudo apt-get remove samba doesn't work either
[15:49] <usr13> love4linux: o
[15:49] <usr13> love4linux: But what do  you mean, "highlighting text"?
[15:50] <Kyle__> fede: Did you try blowing away (or just moving to a new name) your ~/.mozilla directory ?
[15:50] <loculinux> Hola algun tio para follar con tio en almería?
[15:50] <usr13> ccvvcc: Try:  apt-get -f install
[15:50] <fede> Kyle_
[15:50] <love4linux> usr13 Emm.. simply select a part of text you want and then highlight it as you would with a highlighter on paper
[15:50] <escott> !br | loculinux
[15:50] <fede> Kyle__: I'll do that, thanks
[15:51] <nexes> So, I'm trying to manually upgrade to Catalyst 11.7 in 11.04. fglrx shows as a module in lsmod, but the desktop won't start and Xorg.0.log shows: Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exist, 0) ...Anyone know off hand what might cause X not to recognize the fglrx module?
[15:51] <love4linux> usr13 thanks for the suggestion anyways
[15:52] <usr13> lollo64it: xpdf hightlights text.
[15:52] <lucenut> I have an HP Mini netbook that will only take 1G RAM and I'd like to install ubuntu and have it dual boot. It currently has Windows 7.
[15:52] <lucenut> I have downloaded the 9.04 netbook remix and the 11.04 iso.
[15:53] <usr13> lollo64it: Looks like it does it on most any document.
[15:53] <lucenut> Isn't an iso for burning a CD?
[15:53] <lucenut> Can't do much with it on the netbook. Don't most netbooks not have CDRs?
[15:54] <bazhang> lucenut, use a usb stick with unetbootin
[15:54] <Jordan_U> lucenut: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download has instructions for putting it on a USB drive.
[15:54] <Pici> lucenut: Be aware that 9.04 is no longer supported and you will not be able to install or update any software from the repositories.
[15:54] <lucenut> Ah.
[15:55] <lucenut> Is 11.04 a better option then?
[15:55] <Jordan_U> lucenut: Definitely.
[15:55] <Pici> lucenut: 11.04 with lxde or xfce (lubuntu or xubuntu) would likely be a better idea.
[15:55] <lucenut> The netbook remix said it adjusted some menus and stuff for small screens.
[15:55] <lucenut> Are those plugins?
[15:55] <bazhang> lucenut, une is no more 11.04 does it by default now
[15:55] <Pici> lucenut: there is no nbr anymore, as Unity is now the default desktop environment on Ubuntu.
[15:56] <lucenut> Ah, OK.
[15:56] <NixNinja> can anyone help me with a apache problem?
[15:56] <canurabus> hi can anyone help me resolve a broken package manager
[15:57] <NixNinja> I had 3 sites working then I did an svn install and now all I get is a file listing for one of my sites
[15:57] <shinsuke> hi. how can i add blinking icons to the gnome panel like pidgin does? thanks
[15:58] <usr13> canurabus: Did you try   apt-get -f install  ?
[15:58] <thunsucker> shinsuke: if you want pretty icons and movings things and etc, try out cairo dock
[15:59] <shinsuke> thunsucker, i check it out now, thanks
[15:59] <canurabus> usr13: yeah, here's the output
[15:59] <canurabus> http://pastebin.com/3DR5QyU0
[16:00] <thunsucker> shinsuke: you'll love it :P
[16:00] <Aygoustos> isixia vlepw
[16:00] <canurabus> the only repos I have in my list are maverick main and security... so I don't know why everything's broke
[16:00] <bazhang> !gr | Aygoustos
[16:01] <usr13> canurabus: Did someone suggest  dpkg --reconfigure dpkg  ?
[16:02] <canurabus> usr13: did you mean dpkg --configure -a?
[16:02] <canurabus> usr13: my dpkg doesn't have a --reconfigure option
[16:03] <usr13> canurabus: Yes, did you do   dpkg --configure -a  ?
[16:03] <Paki> Please, on my windows computer I can join the irc.EpikNet.org server, but I don't know how to do it on the xChat client, can someone help me please ?
[16:03] <Pici> Paki: /connect irc.EpikNet.org
[16:04] <Paki> kthx I'll try
[16:04] <Paki> Permission denied - You are not an IRC operator
[16:05] <usr13> canurabus: And yes, you're right, it would be dpkg-reconfigure   not  dpkg --reconfigure
[16:06] <Paki> How do I become IRC operator .
[16:06] <Paki> ?*
[16:06] <canurabus> usr13: yeah, I get dependency errors:  http://pastebin.com/X87774GP
[16:06] <Pici> Paki: instead, try: /server irc.EpikNet.org
[16:06] <Daemonproxy> greetings!
[16:06] <Paki> kthx I'll try again c:
[16:07] <w30> join #fedora
[16:08] <glebihan> canurabus, what does "sudo dpkg-reconfigure libc6" say ?
[16:08] <canurabus> glebihan: Here's the output: Use of uninitialized value $type in ucfirst at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/AutoSelect.pm line 35.
[16:08] <canurabus> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: libc6 is broken or not fully installed
[16:09] <Paki> Did not work, it says : "reaserch of newserver" "host unknown"
[16:09] <Zungo> hi, gnome 3 works on natty?
[16:09] <Pici> Paki: I don't know the, try asking in #xchat
[16:10] <Paki> kthx c:
[16:10] <glebihan> canurabus, then try "sudo dpkg --purge libc6" and then "sudo apt-get install -f"
[16:10] <Daemonproxy> What is the best video editor program for ubuntu?
[16:11] <Pici> glebihan: er, that is likely to break things.
[16:11] <glebihan> Pici, things are pretty much broken...
[16:11] <ParkerR> glebihan, umm yes very many packages depend on libc6
[16:11] <canurabus> glebihan: the purge call isn't successful, get more dependency errors
[16:12] <hari_> super tux is not working in ubuntu
[16:12] <Zungo> Daemonproxy: idk, you should try and try, simple as that.or you can google it...
[16:12] <ParkerR> hari_, works for me
[16:12] <ParkerR> And he quits :/
[16:13] <Zungo> does gnome 3 works on natty? i mean, what happens if i install gnome3 in top of gnome 2?
[16:13] <canurabus> can I downgrade libc6?
[16:13] <Zungo> canurabus: you need to add older repos
[16:14] <Pici> !gnome3 | Zungo
[16:14] <w30> hari_wouldn't work for me without the Nvidia proprietory drivers
[16:14] <mmncs> how do i set up the correct access rights for a web project so www-data and I can access and create files?
[16:14] <Pici> mmncs: Putting yourself into the www-data group is one way.
[16:15] <Daemonproxy> I was looking for a video editor program for linux and i found Kino,Cinelerra and jashaka
[16:15] <zen_> can someone help me with grub? i get error: invalid arch independent ELF magic.
[16:15] <Pici> Daemonproxy: There is also pitivi.
[16:15] <Zungo> Pici: ufff, not that, i am NOT trying to use PPA, instead, i saw gnome3-session packages in natty repos....
[16:15] <javier__> theadmin: you found something?
[16:15] <ParkerR> Isnt gnome3 what natty uses under Unity?
[16:15] <w30> hari_try launching it in a terminal and watch the error message if there is one
[16:15] <Pici> Zungo: That doesn't provide a full gnome3 environment. I'm not sure what exactly it does give you.
[16:16] <JakeR003> how to add custom resolution to ubuntu monitor ?
[16:16] <Zungo> ParkerR: no, unity it´s just an interface based in gnome
[16:17] <ParkerR> Hmm
[16:17] <Pici> ParkerR: Unity is a shell for GNOME but it is not gnome-shell.
[16:17] <Younder> Zungo, A interface created by ubuntu that is different from gnomes
[16:17]  * ParkerR wonders why he had the argument with someone over gnome3 the other day that said gnome3 ruined Ubuntu
[16:17] <shinsuke> thunsucker, are you sure you can use cairo dock for blinking notification icons in the gnome panel like pidgin?
[16:17] <ParkerR> Pici, I know that
[16:18] <Younder> But uses gnome underneath
[16:18] <shinsuke> hi. how can i add blinking notification icons to the gnome panel like pidgin does when received a msg? thanks
[16:18] <thunsucker> shinsuke: cairo is a dock, it operates differently than the gnome panel. you can customize it to do many things, like spin icons and etc.
[16:18] <glebihan> shinkamui, what do you want to do exactly ?
[16:19] <Zungo> shinsuke: maybe you want pigdin integrate into the system notifications....
[16:19] <thunsucker> shinsuke: pidgin is programmed to do that, other applications may not have that ability. with a dock, you can customize the way the icons work
[16:19] <canurabus> does anyone have any suggestions at all? I only have the default repos enabled -- and now I have broken packages after a botched update. What am I supposed to do?
[16:19] <Zungo> is there gnome3 in the reops?
[16:19] <glebihan> shinsuke, what do you want to do exactly ?
[16:20] <delinquentme> heyy all .. So if im looking to make some Khan academy style tutorials ( screen-cap video with something like paint and voice overs )  what would be my best option?
[16:20] <thunsucker> shinsuke: what application are you wantitng to blink like pidgin?
[16:20] <Pici> delinquentme: There are a few options...
[16:20] <glebihan> shinsuke, are you developing an application or do you want some chosen icons to blink ?
[16:20] <Pici> !screencasts | delinquentme
[16:20] <g105b> Could someone help me configure/make/install the beta version of Qt? I just downloaded 4.8.0 beta (.tar.gz) and extracted the files, and now I'm lost :D not very confident in the terminal...
[16:21] <shinsuke> glebihan, i want cron to start scripts and to give me a visual notification so i do not forget about it
[16:21] <Zungo> canurabus: re update , reinstall or else, or use apt-get
[16:21] <shinsuke> glebihan, developing
[16:21] <canurabus> Zungo: I can't call apt-get -- everything I try complains about broken packages
[16:21] <Zungo> try it with -f
[16:22] <Zungo> or just apt-get to get help
[16:22] <glebihan> shinsuke, cron won't be able to show icons in the notification area as it does not run in the desktop environment
[16:22] <bluecrysmile> apt-get
[16:22] <mokti> Hello, I'm back!
[16:22] <thunsucker> canurabus: what happened, you ran what and it caused whhat to happen?
[16:22] <shinsuke> glebihan, but maybe i can run a programm with cron that does it
[16:22] <canurabus> Zungo: I did. I tried issuing the original update command again as well.
[16:23] <glebihan> shinsuke, you still wouldn't have a connection with the display
[16:23] <thunsucker> shinsuke: setup a cron job and then setup a calendar or something that reminds you
[16:23] <w30> Zungo, Synaptic has a repair broken package option; Did you try that?
[16:23] <canurabus> thunsucker: when installing one of the packages it got caught in an infinite loop so I had to kill it. The output of the loop is here: http://pastebin.com/M4sYePss.
[16:24] <Zungo> canurabus: read w30 msg
[16:24] <Zungo> w30: it was for canurabus...
[16:24] <shinsuke> thunsucker, ok i try it
[16:24] <thunsucker> canurabus: during a version upgrade?
[16:24] <javier__> yes, I use laptop
[16:24] <mokti> If a video card is listed in the certified hardware catalog, it is completely supported, correct?
[16:25] <w30> Zungo, opps, my bad..
[16:25] <Zungo> :P
[16:25] <canurabus> w30: yes I tried Synaptic. It can ID the broken packages but won't let me repair them. I get some error...
[16:25] <glebihan> shinsuke, one (not simple) solution would be to use DBus to connect the script with some application running under the desktop environment to show the notification icons... but it would be a lot of work for such a purpose
[16:25] <thunsucker> mokti: if it's in the list then it's been tested and shown to work
[16:25] <Zungo> pastebin the error log canurabus
[16:26] <mokti> thunsucker: okay, thanks. It was listed under another model of computer though, should it still work okay?
[16:26] <shinsuke> glebihan, ok. i was getting into dbus anyway so it is a good practice. thanks
[16:26] <dataworm> anyway to install Ubuntu on new Macbook Air that run Lion without using a cdrom?
[16:26] <thunsucker> mokti: probably, you can also boot a live cd and see how that operates first, if it doesn't work, simply reboot and take the cd out
[16:27] <canurabus> Zungo: http://pastebin.com/zGDEhdhS
[16:27] <glebihan> shinsuke, then if you choose to go that way, the class used to display the status icons is the "StatusIcon" of gtk libraries
[16:28] <Zungo> held packages and synaptic cannot fix it :(
[16:28] <NixNinja> I have 3 web sites running on apache they were all working before I installed svn server now two of my sites work but one of them is only giving my a directory listing and not loading the page anyone know what configuration setting may be causing this?
[16:28] <mokti> thunsucker: I don't have the machine yet, I'm thinking about buying it. The model that is listed is the a ThinkPad T420s, and I'm going to pick up a T420
[16:28] <thunsucker> canurabus: did the problem occur during an upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10?
[16:28] <fosterdv> NixNinja have you attempted to tail your error logs?
[16:28] <NixNinja> not yet but I will
[16:29] <shinsuke> glebihan, thanks again. linux will rule the world
[16:29] <w30> dataworm, I put ubuntu on a netbook with flash drive because of no cd drive; I would think it would work on a Mac also if you get the mac-ubuntu iso
[16:29] <glebihan> shinsuke, you're welcome :)
[16:29] <canurabus> thunsucker: no, the distribution wasn't being upgraded just updates
[16:29] <auronandace> mokti: thinkpads are great but i've heard reports that nvidia optimus graphics are difficult to get working under linux
[16:30] <thunsucker> canurabus: did you try just: sudo apt-get install -f
[16:30] <mokti> I actually found a thread that solved some issues. I'll have to check a little further to make sure
[16:31] <canurabus> thunsucker: many times... get the same error synaptic gives me
[16:31] <thunsucker> canurabus: read the bottom post: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/debian-linux/59318-package-problem-broken-dependency-more.html
[16:31] <mokti> auronandace: I actually found a thread that solved some issues. I'll have to check a little further to make sure
[16:31] <javier__> someone knows if I can safely change grub2 to another in ubuntu 11.04? grub2 doesn't work well (can't use my keyboard there)
[16:32] <auronandace> mokti: i've heard of bumblebee but it does sound more of a hack than a fix
[16:32] <auronandace> mokti: given time though, i'm sure linux will support switchable graphics better in the future
[16:33] <designbybeck> Has anyone hooked up a laptop with HDMI to their HDMI TV??
[16:33] <designbybeck> I tried both Ubuntu and Windows and I have a lag on the TV
[16:34] <theadmin> javier__: apt-get install grub-legacy
[16:34] <mokti> auronandace: This thread is for a separate graphics card that also uses optimus, do you think this would work:
[16:35] <mokti> auronandace: sorry I forgot the link: ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1757821
[16:35] <Nekken> Hello
[16:35] <fosterdv> Hello Nekken
[16:35] <faint545> designbybeck, how big is your tv
[16:36] <Nekken> Can I ask question about Ubuntu technical issue here (sound card issue) ?
[16:36] <javier__> theadmin: with that comand, says that "couldn't open the file" and "denied permission"
[16:36] <designbybeck> 55in tv faint545
[16:36] <faint545> designbybeck, if it's really big, then there will be latency.. oh wow. yeah latency is expected of that size haha
[16:36] <fosterdv> Nekken, I would think so.
[16:37] <mokti> auronandace: I mean, I could probably just disable optimus...
[16:37] <Nekken> I'm using Natty on Acer TimelineX 3830T
[16:37] <theadmin> javier__: Um.
[16:37] <faint545> designbybeck, nothing you can do really
[16:37] <designbybeck> doh!! I didn't know that would happen? anyway to fix it?
[16:37] <theadmin> javier__: sudo apt-get install grub-legacy
[16:37] <designbybeck> :(( :(( :((
[16:37] <thrillERboy> Hi, How Can I color the prompt of my CLI? ie How to make tboy@ubuntu:~$ look in different color that rest of the output?
[16:37] <Nekken> And I don't any sound except...... when I plug or unplug the computer to power supply
[16:37] <designbybeck> I told my boss we should have gone with a short throw projector!!
[16:37] <javier__> theadmin:  sorry, that was obvious. Thanks
[16:37] <designbybeck> Thanks for the feedback faint545!
[16:37] <mokti> auronandace: idk, I'll probably be able to figure it out, thanks
[16:38] <Nekken> I mean ... not when it is plugged, or unplugged, but when I'm plugging:unplugging it
[16:38] <Nekken> :-(
[16:38] <auronandace> mokti: like i said, more of a hack, essentially what that thread recomends is disabling optimus and blacklisting nouveau and framebuffers and using the nvidia card exclusively
[16:38] <perlsyntax> Has anyone use q4wine before?
[16:38] <theadmin> perlsyntax: I think PlayOnLinux works better.
[16:38] <canurabus> thunsucker: because the packages involved are perl and libc, following those instructions, specifically the part where it says 'mark the unmet dependencies in synaptic', basically makes synaptic reinstall my entire system.
[16:38] <theadmin> javier__: No problem.
[16:38] <perlsyntax> The prob is i have a hard time find out how to unmount it.
[16:39] <blink> i am trying to install limewire but it doesn't work!
[16:39] <mks> alguien que halla probado la beta de ubuntu 11.10 y halla podido hacer funcionar wepcrack
[16:39] <distroia> hi everybody. 1920x1080 on 23" monitor, ubuntu 10.10, gnome, default theme. My problem is, it's hard to resize the windows - the area at the window corner where the mouse changes shapes allowing me to resize the window  is too small. anyone had this same issue and solved it?
[16:39] <theadmin> !es | mks
[16:39] <perlsyntax> why you say that for i never use it before.
[16:39] <fosterdv> Nekken, the sound you have when you plug in and out, is that coming from the system speaker? or your actual speakers?
[16:39] <Ramses> ...I I I I I wanna go go go go go go go...
[16:39] <lng> 	Plymouth SPINFINITY freezes. now unable to change the plymouth
[16:39] <oCean> Ramses: stop that
[16:40] <mks> gracias
[16:40] <perlsyntax> theadmin,Is it free
[16:40] <theadmin> perlsyntax: Yah
[16:40] <javier__> theadmin: but no luck. It says that gurb-legacy is not available, but maybe "grub-ieee1275       grub-coreboot       grub-pc         grub-efi-ia32        grub-efi-amd64"
[16:40] <fosterdv> Nekken: Have you tried to look up your laptop and find what soundcard or chipset is being used for your sound, and looked up and attempted to verify you have that driver installed?
[16:40] <perlsyntax> theadmin, it easy to unmount it to?
[16:40] <Nekken> it is a laptop, and the sound is from internal speaker (not the buzzer)
[16:40] <theadmin> Be back at some point in the future.
[16:40] <Pici> Ramses: If you're looking to chat, then use #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[16:41] <fosterdv> Lol, I have a Dell XPS with both....
[16:41] <thrillERboy> Hi, What CLI Email Client u Use?
[16:41] <Nekken> I'm quite a newbie on Linux :-( How can I check the driver ?
[16:41] <fosterdv> Look your laptop up, on the manufactures page, and see what they say is being used for sound.
[16:41] <phillyj> anyone know what ibam battery monitor means by "adapted battery time left"?
[16:41] <trism> thrillERboy: in the default ~/.bashrc there is a line containing: force_color_prompt=yes that you should uncomment, and then a couple lines down, there is an if color_prompt, which then sets PS1, that's where the colors come from
[16:42] <propman> javier__:  "It says that gurb-legacy is not available"    typo?
[16:42] <perlsyntax> i try that out:)
[16:42] <trism> thrillERboy: color escape info here: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/x329.html
[16:42] <thrillERboy> thanks a ton trism
[16:42] <fosterdv> Nekken: Don't worry about the OS, just find what is being used, as far as hardware.
[16:43] <javier__> propman: yes, says that is not available but some other refer to ir.
[16:43] <javier__> propman: and then, at the end, say that those packets replace it
[16:43] <javier__> it's in kubuntu
[16:43] <propman> javier__:   it says "gurb"  not grub
[16:43] <distroia> Pici, i see you know about channels here -- do you know any other channel where I may ask my question? (do you want me to paste it again?)
[16:44] <Pici> javier__: 'grub' is the legacy grub version, grub-pc is grub2
[16:44] <Pici> distroia: I'd just be patient here and ask a again in a few minutes.  I suppose you could ask in ##linux as well.
[16:45] <distroia> thanks
[16:45] <Nekken> Hum....  It is an Intel, but don't know the model
[16:46] <javier__> Pici: so should be "sudo apt-get install grub" (that would install grub legacy=¿?)
[16:46] <Pici> javier__: yes.
[16:48] <fosterdv> Nekken: What is your laptop again?
[16:49] <Nekken> Acer TimeLineX 3830T
[16:49] <Nekken> Sooner, I was able to launch alsamixer, but right now I can't anymore :-(((
[16:50] <Lostvocies> hi guys,if i click on file systemi get this  , whatdoes it mean.. ubuntu specify the application you to use for default file manager xfce
[16:50] <Lostvocies> what do i choose?
[16:53] <joe_> Does anyone know what happened to the Ubuntu Certified Professional exam?
[16:53] <javier__> Pici: it didnt work. It looked like it was installed "grub", but when rebooting, grub2 started
[16:53] <joe_> Can you still get it? Or is it with Canonical itself?  There is NO info on their site
[16:55] <pinoyoragon> Weird thing, I can't boot properly to my 11.04 without pressing esc during boot. If i don't press ESC, it enters graphics mode then stalls showing only the mouse pointer but without the login box
[16:55] <thunsucker> canurabus: try the other commands, skip the last
[16:55] <hhaab19> ciao
[16:56] <canurabus> thunsucker: those commands give me the same 'Unmet Dependencies' error
[16:58] <dell> i edit the nameservers in the /etc/resolv.conf but when i reconnect they revert back to what they were originally...how to stop this...probably the isp dhcp server is providing its own dns servers?
[16:58] <llutz> dell: change dhclient.conf or your network-manager connection
[16:59] <thunsucker> canurabus: what package was it that destroyed apt-get?
[16:59] <canurabus> thunsucker: libc6-dev
[16:59] <thunsucker> canurabus: so you did sudo apt-get install libc6-dev ?
[16:59] <dell> whereis dhclient.conf
[17:00] <dr_willis> dell,  the network manager icon has options to set your own dns.. yes. the isp normally supplies DNS servers as part of the DHCP stuff
[17:00] <fosterdv> Nekken: I think this is what you might actually be using for sound, Mobile Intel® HM65 Express Chipset
[17:00] <Pici> dell: /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[17:00] <thunsucker> dell: /etc/dhclient.conf
[17:00] <llutz> dell: likely /etc/dhcp3/
[17:00] <thunsucker> canurabus: try, sudo apt-get -f install libc6-dev
[17:00] <dell> ok and where is that network-manager thing?
[17:00] <Nekken> fosterdv : you're probably right... how can I check ?
[17:01] <dr_willis> dell,  network icon at top right normally.....
[17:01] <pinoyoragon> Need help here, happened after i installed bumblebee's optirun program: Weird thing, I can't boot properly to my 11.04 without pressing esc during boot. If i don't press ESC, it enters graphics mode then stalls showing only the mouse pointer but without the login box.
[17:01] <insmod> distroia: that's gnome thing unmaximize the window then it will work
[17:01] <thunsucker> dell: sudo find / | grep dhclient.conf
[17:01] <fosterdv> Nekken: That's what I found, when I looked up your laptop, on Google, and the Acer website.
[17:01] <shinsuke> is anachron a better version of cron or does it has disadvantages?
[17:01] <canurabus> thunsucker: yeah, but it gave me a dependency error (not the same one I get now). So I asked here, and someone suggested to run dist-upgrade (just like in the website you sent me). That didn't work though -- one of the packages that was being installed during the upgrade went into an infinite loop and that broke many things (I'm guessing), which leads me to where I am now :/
[17:02] <llutz> shinsuke: anacron is handy if your computer doesn't run 24/7
[17:02] <w30> dell, if you google for google's public dns they will show how to install their dns numbers for all; Mac Windows, Linux
[17:02] <RobinJ> how can i speed up my laptop's fans so it doesn't get so hot? Ubuntu controls them automatically but it doesn't seem to set them high enough... When running a VM it gets up to 90°C and all guides for fancontrol i can find on google are outdated....
[17:02] <thunsucker> canurabus: for eacy dependency error, do the same. sudo apt-get install -f install dependency-package
[17:02] <javier__> keyboard laptop not working in grub2. Someone knows how to fix that?
[17:02] <dr_willis> javier__,  check the bios settings see if theres a legacy usb option you can enable
[17:02] <shinsuke> llutz, i know. cron cant. so is there even a point in learning cron?
[17:03] <RobinJ> javier__: doesn't enter work either? on my father's laptop things like "e" and "ctrl+x" aren't working, but just the arrow keys and enter do work fine
[17:03] <javier__> dr_willis:but why usb?
[17:03] <dr_willis> because.. :) its a setting ivce had to enabvle to get usb keyboardsd working in grub ....
[17:03] <javier__> RobinJ: not even enter or arrow keys working
[17:03] <theadmin> dr_willis: It's not a USB keyboard for him tho
[17:03] <llutz> shinsuke: install anacron and define your cronjobs as usual. anacron will take care of them then
[17:03] <RobinJ> javier__: thats crap xd
[17:03] <insmod> canurabus: apt-get -f install
[17:04] <llutz> shinsuke: anacron isn't a cron-replacement
[17:04] <propman> canurabus:   might want to look at  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/606652
[17:04] <dell> w30:that was helpful
[17:04] <dr_willis> theadmin,  hard to tell on a laptop.. other then that setting.. good luck i guess..
[17:04] <JakeR003> someone is flooding the channel! and he is called floodbot
[17:04] <shinsuke> llutz, thanks. you saved me hours. have a nice day
[17:04] <MichaelDeaton> I have a question. D: To install the new official release of JDK7, do I download the .rpm or the .bin?
[17:04] <javier__> i thought changing grub2 to grub legacy, but couldn't make it...
[17:04] <RobinJ> javier__: not an unknown bug either: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/771376
[17:05] <theadmin> MichaelDeaton: The .bin, .rpms are dangerous on Ubuntu
[17:05] <MichaelDeaton> Ohh okay. may I ask why they're dangerous?
[17:05] <theadmin> MichaelDeaton: Because they're not for Debian-based systems.
[17:05] <canurabus> insmod: tried that... many times =p
[17:06] <MichaelDeaton> Ohhh. So just download the .bin? Then open it with software center?
[17:06] <canurabus> propman: that bug is unrelated to my current issue
[17:06] <javier__> RobinJ: I think that bug you mention is with USB keyboard
[17:06] <dr_willis> MichaelDeaton,   you run the bin.. you may want toread their install docs..
[17:06] <thunsucker> MichaelDeaton: try to find a package for debian/ubuntu as a.deb
[17:06] <MichaelDeaton> There's not one...  http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/java-se-jre-7-download-432155.html
[17:07] <MichaelDeaton> Which one on that page do I get?
[17:07] <dr_willis> MichaelDeaton,  there may be a PPA for it.
[17:07] <MichaelDeaton> I need to update to JRE7 for some games I play.
[17:07] <RobinJ> yours isnt a USB one?
[17:07] <fosterdv> Nekken: Did you say something http://www.frihost.com/forums/vt-125948.htmlabout alsamixer?
[17:07] <fosterdv> Nekken: http://www.frihost.com/forums/vt-125948.html
[17:07] <RobinJ> make sure it isn't plugged in to the mouse port. it will work in ubuntu but not with grub. the keyboard port is usually the purple one
[17:08] <dataworm>  ww
[17:08] <thunsucker> MichaelDeaton: http://www.shinephp.com/install-jdk-7-on-ubuntu/
[17:08] <MichaelDeaton> I need JRE not JDK
[17:08] <change> hello
[17:08] <javier__> RobinJ: no, it's the laptop's keyboard
[17:08] <dr_willis> jdk will run stuff also i belve.. just a bigger package
[17:08] <RobinJ> oh right xd
[17:08] <MichaelDeaton> Yeah.. I can't spare the bandwith.
[17:08] <Shadowwolf> Um, I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.04 to my computer because I deleted a partition which apparently had the GRUB 2 bootloader (with linux Mint on it, which was why I deleted it in the first place) or something.. so now my computer doesn't boot. But I'm not sure if I should put the Ubuntu on a new partition from free space and if so, how big the partition should be. :S
[17:08] <MichaelDeaton> It'll take an hour to get JDK.
[17:09] <MichaelDeaton> Only 9 minutes for JRE.
[17:09] <RobinJ> good luck javier__ :p http://www.google.be/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=keyboard+not+working+grub2
[17:09] <fosterdv> Nekken: Try following this: http://computerandu.wordpress.com/2011/06/19/how-to-solve-no-sound-through-laptop-integrated-speakers-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[17:09] <insmod> canurabus: did you clean the  cache - because i would cd /var/cache/apt/archives and use dpkg --force-help
[17:09] <dr_willis> so you dont get to play some game for an hr......
[17:09] <insmod> canurabus: dpkg --force
[17:09] <change> I installed Ubuntu 10.04 and my Window 7 primary partition was corrupted. :((
[17:10] <thunsucker> MichaelDeaton: http://download.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/webnotes/install/linux/linux-jre.html#install-32
[17:10] <MichaelDeaton> You have to use your windows 7 DVD to repair your windows 7 partition.
[17:10] <delinquentme> anyone here use bamboo tablets ? are the fairly easy to install on ubuntu and do they run fairly well?
[17:10] <MichaelDeaton> I had to fix mine as well.
[17:11] <w30> Shadowwolf, I beleive the live cd can boot your ubuntu from thr hard drive; If you can then you can install grub back to the mbr.
[17:11] <canurabus> insmod: how can I clean the cache?
[17:11] <Shadowwolf> w30 I'm not sure how to do that. :(
[17:12] <insmod> canurabus: you don't want to if you want to fix it
[17:12] <Shadowwolf> And I'm not quite sure what you mean.
[17:12] <w30> Shadowwolf, see if the live cd boot menu gives you that option?
[17:13] <canurabus> insmod: I'm a little confused... I went to the folder you noted. What am I supposed to do there? And what should I use dpkg for?
[17:13] <Shadowwolf> w30, exactly what option am I searching for?
[17:14] <Jordan_U> Shadowwolf: I would just tell the Ubuntu installer to use the available free space.
[17:14] <MichaelDeaton> Does anyone know of any good user scripts packs that are helpful?
[17:14] <insmod> canurabus: with that you can force them to install -- that will mabe fix it -- or use it to downgrade packages
[17:14] <MichaelDeaton> I have a few like, "Open terminal in directory" etc.
[17:14] <dr_willis> there is a neat little Ubuntu variant-live cd that comes with 'boot-repair' tool    Hope its the default in the next release ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10084551&postcount=1
[17:14] <w30> Shadowwolf, boot ubuntu from a hard drive option
[17:14] <Jordan_U> w30: I think you misunderstand Shadowwolf's situation, he's not trying to recover an old install. He wants to do a fresh install.
[17:14] <Nekken> Sorry... needed to reboot
[17:14] <Shadowwolf> Oh yeah.
[17:15] <Shadowwolf> You see, I never had ubuntu on my disk, although I did have linux MINT.
[17:15] <Jordan_U> w30: And as he deleted the (Mint) partition, there is nothing currently there to boot.
[17:15] <Shadowwolf> And I deleted that partition without realizing GRUB 2 was on it.
[17:15] <Shadowwolf> My friend told me installing Ubuntu should fix the problem.. although Im' not sure how yet. Haha.
[17:15] <Double_Rainbow> hello there
[17:15] <Double_Rainbow> i am running ubuntu 11.04 from cd rom
[17:16] <Nekken> "aplay -l" replied : "no sound card found"
[17:16] <w30> Jordan_U, ok, I missed his thought on that sorry Shadowwolf
[17:16] <dr_willis> Shadowwolf,  there was an original problem?
[17:16] <Double_Rainbow> how do i format my hard drive with Fat 32?
[17:16] <stuffed-crust> how can i get my 5.1 surround sound card give me the options to run 4 channels or even 5, although i only need 4 for what i want
[17:16] <Nekken> That's why I don't have sound ... how can I declare it ?
[17:16] <llutz> Double_Rainbow: sudo mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/sdXY
[17:16] <fosterdv> Nekken: Follow the second link I sent you.
[17:16] <Double_Rainbow> llutz: is there a gui alternative?
[17:16] <Shadowwolf> dr_willis, what are you referring to?
[17:16] <fosterdv> Nekkon: See if this works, http://computerandu.wordpress.com/2011/06/19/how-to-solve-no-sound-through-laptop-integrated-speakers-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[17:17] <Shadowwolf> The problem of it not booting?
[17:17] <dr_willis> Shadowwolf,  you said installing ubuntu woulkd fix somthing..,
[17:17] <llutz> Double_Rainbow: maybe, never needed one
[17:17] <Jordan_U> Double_Rainbow: Yes, GParted.
[17:17] <Shadowwolf> Yes. The problem of not booting.
[17:17] <Shadowwolf> When I start it, I get error: no such partition
[17:17] <Nekken> I did, but the link just say "i have a problem", not the solution... :-(
[17:17] <dr_willis> Shadowwolf,  reinstalling ubuntu to fix ubuntu not booting?
[17:17] <insmod> stuffed-crust:alsamixer or pavucontrol
[17:17] <Shadowwolf> No.
[17:17] <Shadowwolf> Nothing boots.
[17:17] <stuffed-crust> insmod: thank you, ill check them out
[17:17] <Shadowwolf> I've never had it on.
[17:17] <Shadowwolf> Er.
[17:17] <Shadowwolf> I've never had ubuntu.
[17:17] <Shadowwolf> But I've always had a LiveCD lying around.
[17:18] <Double_Rainbow> cool thanks
[17:18] <Jordan_U> Shadowwolf: Do you have another OS which hasn't been deleted, like Windows, which you would like to be able to boot?
[17:18] <Shadowwolf> Yes.
[17:18] <Shadowwolf> Windows 7.
[17:18] <Shadowwolf> But I don't know how to allow it to boot.
[17:18] <dr_willis> Shadowwolf,  you might get lucky and try the  live cd is aw that has a fixboot tool -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10084551&postcount=1   in theory it should fix ubuntu, that will let you boot the other os;s
[17:18] <Shadowwolf> I don't have ubuntu.
[17:18] <Shadowwolf> :/
[17:18] <Jordan_U> Shadowwolf: That can be fixed without installing Ubuntu (though installing Ubuntu will also fix it).
[17:19] <willwh> hi guys - any suggestions for monitoring websites? (I've been using zenoss - but the check_http plugin produces a lot of false positives)
[17:19] <rawfodog> How do I access my ubuntu cloud from windows ? I downloaded ubuntu One beta for win7. It installs. But I see no feature to access the files I uploaded from ubuntu ? I got a bunch of files from work on there that I need to pull from the cloud
[17:19] <Shadowwolf> Jordan_U, well, how else can i fix it considering I don't have the windows 7 CD?
[17:19] <jorgeeer> jajajajaja
[17:19] <Jordan_U> Shadowwolf: You can restore a Microsoft style MBR using an Ubuntu LiveCD.
[17:19] <Shadowwolf> How?
[17:20] <K-Rich> hey all
[17:20] <FroyoShark> hi there
[17:20] <Captainkrtek> hi
[17:20] <Bfh> Hello Wondering if anyone can tell me how to change my screen brightness, also if some1 can tell me how to change the power mode (like in windows7 -- power saver / normal / high performance )
[17:20] <Jordan_U> Shadowwolf: sudo software-properties-gtk -e universe && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install mbr && sudo install-mbr /dev/sda
[17:21] <stuffed-crust> insmod: will following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure get me there ?
[17:21] <fosterdv> Nekken: I missed the last think you said, you tried to follow their steps in that second link, and it said what?
[17:21] <Shadowwolf> Jordan_U, alright. So, I just do those in Terminal, and then restart?
[17:21] <Nekken> ... pff ....
[17:21] <fosterdv> That's what it said?
[17:22] <pinoyoragon> My 11.04 stalls and shows only the mouse pointer and default background everytime i boot and not pressing ESC.  But if I press ESC during boot, i can login and have a "normal" experience. y is that? anyone?
[17:22] <Jordan_U> Shadowwolf: Keeping in mind that the device, "/dev/sda" was only a guess (should be your first hard drive, but you should check) and that whatever device you choose it should *NOT* have a number after it, so "/dev/sdb" might be right but *NOT* "/dev/sdb1".
[17:23] <insmod> stuffed-crust:no
[17:23] <Shadowwolf> Ok. Thanks, Jordan_U. lemme give it a wack.
[17:23] <stuffed-crust> insmod: phew!
[17:23] <willwh> Bfh: System > Preferences > Power Management
[17:23] <Shadowwolf> Jordan_U, I tried the second command, and I got a bunch of "Failed to fetch" errors. :(
[17:23] <Shadowwolf> The sudo apt-get update
[17:23] <JohnM_> hi there, quick question, how can i install a program (using apt-get) to a specific directory?
[17:24] <willwh> JohnM_: why would you want to do that?
[17:24] <Shadowwolf> Apparently it couldn't resolve 'archive.ubuntu.com'.
[17:24] <dr_willis> JohnM_,  not sure thats doable.
[17:24] <tsimpson> JohnM_: quick answer, you can't
[17:24] <hagus> How do I add to the list of repositories?   I want to install python's pyramid framework.
[17:24] <perlsyntax> anyone use playinlinux before?
[17:24] <dr_willis> JohnM_,  you can extract the .dev somewhere..
[17:24] <dr_willis> .deb is an arhive  you can open/extract
[17:24] <JohnM_> ah ok, what about through dpkg?
[17:24] <perlsyntax> My question is it don't copy it ask for onre cd?
[17:24] <JohnM_> i tried the --instdir option but im getting a couple of errors from what i assume are dependecies
[17:25] <perlsyntax> odd
[17:25] <Shadowwolf> Jordan_U, same thing happened with mbr.
[17:25] <Troy^> How do i remove something from apt-get update.. i added a ppa repository i believe of elegant-gnome but its non-existent and gives me this output W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/elegant-gnome/ppa/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[17:25] <Troy^>  everytime i do a sudo apt-get install
[17:25] <Troy^> err sudo apt-get update
[17:25] <JohnM_> http://pastebin.com/m4272ddt
[17:25] <Captainkrtek> Troy^: sudo nano /etc/sources.list
[17:25] <JohnM_> that shows the errors im getting
[17:26] <Troy^> ty
[17:26] <dr_willis> Troy^,  remove the entry to that ppa in /etc/apt/sources.list.d or sources.list
[17:26] <Captainkrtek> Troy^: it's either /etc/sources.list or /etc/apt/sources.list i dont recall
[17:27] <Troy^> it doesnt seem to be in there
[17:27] <Jordan_U> Shadowwolf: You need to be connnected to the internet.
[17:27] <coraxx> so anybody know of a GUI admin tool for Spamassassin ?  (preferably a non-webbased)
[17:27] <Shadowwolf> Oh.... duh...
[17:27] <Shadowwolf> :|
[17:27] <JohnM_> ignore that
[17:27] <Shadowwolf> Jordan_U, yeah, sorry.
[17:28] <Jordan_U> Shadowwolf: np :)
[17:28] <thrillERboy> is there a root account? if I installed Ubuntu Via wubi?
[17:28] <JohnM_> im an idiot, tried to isntall a lucid deb on maverick
[17:28] <Jordan_U> !root | thrillERboy
[17:28] <Troy^> dr_willis, Captainkrtek: it doesnt seem to be in there
[17:29] <Bfh> Issue Laptop - Ubuntu 11.04: Went to System > Hardware > Power Management -- Tried changing screen brightness but it does not work. >> also trying to go into power saver mode can't find it, Any help really usefull.
[17:29] <thrillERboy> Thanks Jordan_U I get authentication failure while entering password for su
[17:29] <willwh> Bfh: is power management enabled in your BIOS?
[17:29] <Kyle__> Jordan_U: Stop lying to him.  Everyone knows you just have to put "!*" through a password cracker to figure out the password
[17:30] <tonysan> I tried pipelining but not working: gunzip /var/log/mysql/mysql-slow.log.7.gz | ./slowquery.pl
[17:30] <tonysan> any clue?
[17:30] <Kyle__> and anyone beliving that should man shadow, but anyway.
[17:30] <TYDIRocks> Hello
[17:31] <TYDIRocks> I need help with getting Ubuntu installed on my virtual machine
[17:31] <Kyle__> tonysan: man gzip, it doesn't output to console by default
[17:31] <tonysan> Kyle__: thanks
[17:31] <coraxx> TYDIRocks: yes...I can maybe help ...are u having problems ?
[17:31] <TYDIRocks> Yes
[17:31] <fosterdv> Bye all, have a great day.
[17:32] <Kyle__> tonysan: You want "gzip -d -c" btw, but reading through man gzip will definately help alot :)
[17:32] <coraxx> TYDIRocks: which are ?
[17:32] <TYDIRocks> One second, let me see what it says
[17:32] <TYDIRocks> I believe it is an error with BusyBox
[17:32] <TYDIRocks> Do you want a screen shot?
[17:32] <Kyle__> TYDIRocks: What type of VM?  I've installed it in several systems, and well, it just goes usually....
[17:32] <stuffed-crust> how can i find out where wget downloads files too ?
[17:33] <Kyle__> stuffed-crust: Your current working directory.
[17:33] <TYDIRocks> What do you mean which type of VM? I'm using ViMWare Workstation
[17:33] <AlphaMail> lol
[17:33] <TYDIRocks> VMWare*
[17:33] <Kyle__> stuffed-crust: If you used a -r, by default it will make a directory named for the server you got it from, in your current working directory.
[17:33] <tonysan> Kyle__: I tried -d -c but it says gzip: /var/log/mysql/mysql-slow.log.7.gz: No such file or directory
[17:33] <stuffed-crust> Kyle__ : cool thx :)
[17:33] <AlphaMail> vim ~/.wgetrc
[17:33] <AlphaMail> man wget
[17:34] <coraxx> TYDIRocks: I use VirtualBox myself ...so if's not an issue withing the virtual machine...but the outer environment, then I'm not sure how much help I will be...but let me see the screenshot....maybe we'll get lucky ;-)
[17:34] <Kyle__> TYDIRocks: Yup, that's what I meant.  Humm... VMWare presents a very streightforward modern machine...
[17:34] <TYDIRocks> Alrighty
[17:34] <coraxx> TYDIRocks: (And remember to type who you are chatting with)
[17:34] <TYDIRocks> coraxx: okay
[17:34] <Kyle__> tonysan: Make sure it that logfile didn't rotate out of there already :) ls it.
[17:35] <Kyle__> tonysan: If you really need to analyze a particular logfile, make sure it's not at risk of being rotated out!
[17:35] <tonysan> Kyle__: thanks...it disappeared mysteriously
[17:35] <TYDIRocks> coraxx: Here is the image link: http://k.min.us/ijwNE8.png
[17:35] <tonysan> but I have plenty of logs to analyse
[17:37] <Pici> tonysan: gunzip usually does an in-place decompress.
[17:37] <coraxx> TYDIRocks: looks like data-error ...that either the virtual CD-image file is corrupted ....or its the setup with the virtual CD-drive
[17:38] <TYDIRocks> Do you know how I could fix it? I've already redownloaded it once
[17:38] <TYDIRocks> Sorry, coraxx: Do you know how I could fix it? I've already redownloaded it once
[17:38] <Kyle__> TYDIRocks: did you md5sum your iso?
[17:38] <coraxx> TYDIRocks: which .iso file did you use ...and where did you download it from ?
[17:38] <TYDIRocks> coraxx: I downloaded it from the ubuntu website
[17:38] <TYDIRocks> coraxx: the 32-bit version
[17:39] <AlphaMail> rsync can fix broken downloads
[17:39] <Ramses> suport?
[17:39] <tonysan> Pici: thanks, I found it
[17:39] <coraxx> TYDIRocks: its the server version right ?
[17:39] <oCean> Ramses: what's up?
[17:40] <TYDIRocks> I don't believe so
[17:40] <AlphaMail> you will need to choose the right command line though and that can be a pain
[17:40] <AlphaMail> *cwrsync
[17:40] <hagus> I want to install pyramid from https://www.pylonsproject.org/ .  How do I achieve this in an Ubuntuesque way?
[17:40] <TYDIRocks> coraxx: I used the "Download and Install>"
[17:40] <Ramses> I am trying to encrypt my music files
[17:40] <Ramses> apt get what?
[17:40] <Jordan_U> Shadowwolf: Were you able to connect to the internet and follow my instructions?
[17:40] <coraxx> TYDIRocks: ok...then its the Desktop version... (if you give me the full name of the .iso file, then I can tell you which one)
[17:40] <AlphaMail> Ramses, why ?, is it Gothic Heavy Metal ?
[17:41] <Shadowwolf> I was having trouble getting on the internet, but just got it. ;)
[17:41] <TYDIRocks> coraxx: ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso
[17:41] <Shadowwolf> Thanks.
[17:41] <Ramses> my kids cannot listen to this music
[17:41] <Kyle__> AlphaMail: normal rsync will update files if they're different, or fix them, in this case.  What's cwrsync?
[17:41] <hagus> How do I manage to include https://www.pylonsproject.org/ in my repositories?
[17:41] <Monotoko> Ramses, can't you just give your kinds there own account?
[17:42] <Ramses> ok thanks.
[17:42] <Monotoko> *kids
[17:42] <Shadowwolf> Jordan_U, alright. Commands executed. :D
[17:42] <AlphaMail> ahh, yea, use cryptsetup
[17:42] <coraxx> TYDIRocks: When you download from Ubuntu.com it usally find a "mirror-site" for the download...based on you geographic location...I will recommend that you either redownload from the offcial server or as Kyle suggested, test the existing one with the MD5 checksum
[17:42] <Monotoko> seems like the simplest way to me...correct me if I'm wrong
[17:42] <Jordan_U> Shadowwolf: Try rebooting.
[17:43] <Shadowwolf> Jordan_U, rebooting now..
[17:43]  * Shadowwolf crosses fingers.
[17:43] <Pici> hagus: This looks like it might be helpful: https://launchpad.net/~ukplc-team/+archive/pyramid
[17:43] <TYDIRocks> coraxx: How can I get my checksum on windows 7?
[17:43]  * Shadowwolf crosses Jordan_U's fingers.
[17:43] <Ramses> wrong channel
[17:43] <AlphaMail> cwrsync is the windows version, sorry I thought there may be windows people here, I have no idea why
[17:43] <Pici> hagus: The pacakges look like they've already been included in the next release of Ubuntu though.
[17:43] <Shadowwolf> Um.
[17:43] <coraxx> TYDIRocks: I'm assuming you are booting from the virtual .iso image ... and not an actual CD-Drive with a Ubuntu-CD in it
[17:44] <shearn89> hey everyone: quick question. Is there any way to format free space on an external drive as HFS+, without changing the structure from master boot record?
[17:44] <Kyle__> TYDIRocks: Holdon, trying to remember the name of the package...
[17:44] <hareldvd> The volume control on the panel is gone. Any idea?
[17:44] <Shadowwolf> "Windows Failed to start. A recent hardware or software change might be the cause. To fix the problem:"
[17:44] <Shadowwolf> Jordan_U, ^
[17:44] <TYDIRocks> coraxx: Correct, I'm just using the iso
[17:44] <coraxx> TYDIRocks: thought so...just had to be sure ;-)
[17:44] <Shadowwolf> The boot selection failed because a required device is inaccessible.
[17:45] <Kyle__> TYDIRocks: http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/
[17:45] <Shadowwolf> Status: 0xc000000e
[17:45] <Shadowwolf> D:
[17:45] <Ramses> hummm, let me think
[17:45] <boris123> test hi
[17:45] <Kyle__> TYDIRocks: That's a little package of unix utilities for windows, and it includes an md5sum.exe binary
[17:45] <Ramses> 0xc0000000e is permission denied
[17:45] <boris123> does natty narwal still do a disk check after 30 boots?
[17:45] <Jordan_U> Shadowwolf: This is now a better question for ##windows.
[17:46] <TYDIRocks> Kyle__: Okay thanks, I'll check it out. Also where can I find the checksum on the the ubuntu website? I don't see it
[17:46] <hagus> Thanks for your help Pici :)
[17:46] <theadmin> boris123: If you need that, you can make it do so by modifying fstab appropriately. Not sure if it defaults to that.
[17:46] <boris123> wondering if i need to disable forced disk check on natty....
[17:46] <Kyle__> TYDIRocks: If you really want to be nuts, you could could write your own little md5sum binary using the included .net compiler in windows...but seriously, who wants to write in .net?
[17:46] <boris123> thx admin
[17:46] <Shadowwolf> Jordan_U, alright. THanks for the help.
[17:47] <TYDIRocks> Kyle__: I code some in .net xD
[17:47] <Ramses> I can create this simple md5 utiity to you for any OS
[17:47] <Kyle__> ...but since md5 digests are included, it's actually a trivial program to write....
[17:47] <theadmin> Kyle__: I write .NET xD
[17:47] <theadmin> Kyle__: Yeah I know
[17:47] <Ramses> I will compile it to you, wait
[17:47] <Kyle__> TYDIRocks: Then create a File object, and find which Digest:MD5 object or whatever it is in that syntax :) easy easy.
[17:47] <shearn89> does anyone know if you can format hfs+ on a disk with master boot record scheme?
[17:47] <TYDIRocks> Kyle__: How exactly do I uuse this program? I opened it and it's just a blank cmd
[17:48] <Kyle__> theadmin: I used to be a test-developer for a really heavy .Net shop.
[17:48] <Jordan_U> Shadowwolf: You're welcome.
[17:48] <zen_> why does my ubuntu want to uninstall grub-efi and install grub-pc instead?
[17:48] <Kyle__> TYDIRocks: md5sum.exe file_you_want_checksum_of.foo
[17:48] <trism> TYDIRocks: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/MD5SUMS (if you're still looking)
[17:48] <Jordan_U> !details | zen_
[17:49] <Kyle__> zen_: You're using ubuntu on an intel-macintosh?
[17:49] <zen_> I just installed ubuntu on my laptop and I've had to reinstall it twice because it uninstalls grub-efi and I can't figure out how to recover it
[17:49] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: if you download or test allot of ISO's or even jsut a few, you may want to try the ubuntu-qa tools, it downloads and MD5's them as well, all done automatically: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man1/dl-ubuntu-test-iso.1.html.
[17:49] <zen_> After it uninstalls grub-efi I get a grub error and it throws me into the recovery mode
[17:50] <zen_> Kyle__ no, it's a Lenovo Thinkpad x121e
[17:50] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha: okay, thanks for the tip
[17:50] <Kyle__> TYDIRocks: if you haven't used md5sum before, it seems odd, but many unix programs are like this: if you run it with an argument, it opens the file, without an argument, it's a filter you need to pipe things into.
[17:50] <Kyle__> zen_: OK that's just wierd.  grub-efi is generally only for EFI based machines.... intel-macintoshes and esoteric workstations.
[17:51] <TYDIRocks> Kyle__:I got the md5sum, where can I find the one on the website? I can't find it.
[17:51] <ke1ha> I use it every night to sync something like 20 to 25 ISO's, and get a report each morning, once ya setup the things ya want, it's very easy and fast to use.
[17:51] <oCean> !hashes | TYDIRocks
[17:51] <Jordan_U> zen_: When does grub-efi get removed?
[17:51] <TYDIRocks> oCean: thanks
[17:52] <zen_> Jordan_U when I run update manager
[17:52] <TYDIRocks> Hmm, seems the sums are different
[17:52] <elkclone> oops
[17:52] <canurabus> hiya, I'm trying to resolve some broken packages -- but I have a circular dependency and wanted to ask how to resolve it. Specifically 'perl' depends on 'perl-modules' and vice versa
[17:52] <zen_> It wants to install some miscellaneous updates, and remove grub-efi
[17:52] <TYDIRocks> Guess I'll have to download again lol
[17:53] <Jordan_U> zen_: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get upgrade" before grub-efi is removed?
[17:53] <TYDIRocks> Kyle__: So how can I get a direct download? when I press Direct url for this download it shows a different website
[17:54] <Kyle__> TYDIRocks: It redirected you to a mirror probably.  Should be a fine download still.
[17:54] <TYDIRocks> Kyle__: Alright
[17:55] <microsoft_> Hey :D
[17:55] <microsoft_> Supp?
[17:55] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: are you using rsync / zsync or direct url iso downloads?
[17:55] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha: I
[17:55] <microsoft_> Whatlol ? :D
[17:55] <S4nD3r> Hi there. how to reinstall a i915 driver to video card? It's looks broken. Any help?
[17:55] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha: I'm downloading from the ubuntu.com website
[17:56] <zen_> Jordan_U, doesn't look like anything interesting, doesn't even mention grub. http://pastebin.com/SVTamJ6n
[17:56] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: You may want to consider using rsync or zsync to download ISO's.
[17:56] <Kyle__> zen_: Jordan_U: Could that laptop actually use EFI instead of a standard bios?
[17:56] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: and use cdimage.ubuntu.com for the source.
[17:56] <zen_> Kyle__, I assume that's why it installed grub-efi.
[17:57] <Monotoko> hey guys...is there any version of Linux that will run in 32mb of RAM and a 200mhz processor? ._.
[17:57] <Gunnar> Salut tout le monde
[17:57] <enjoycrf> hi
[17:57] <enjoycrf> are the ## chans the registered ones?
[17:57] <oCean> enjoycrf: Actually those are 'non-official' channels, but /join #freenode for network help.
[17:57] <Kyle__> zen_: I had the 'apt-get upgrade' replacing grub-efi issue on my mac minis with 10.x and 11.04-beta, but after 11.04 was properly released, it fixed itself...
[17:58] <Kyle__> Monotoko: Plenty, look up puppy linux on wikipedia, follow links from there.
[17:58] <enjoycrf> seems like chatting it up is more hassle than i thot
[17:58] <zen_> Kyle__, it seems to only want to replace grub-efi when I run update manager, not apt-get upgrade
[17:58] <ke1ha> Monotoko: also DSL, but I think it takes 50MB to run, but may do less, I like it better than puppy.
[17:59] <theadmin> Monotoko: You might also like SliTaz - takes only 30MB of disk space, and with RAM... idk honestly.
[17:59] <MrNthDegree> Monotoko, Damn Small Linux is a good bet there.  It can run on a 486
[17:59] <genii-around> enjoycrf: In here it is more about support for Ubuntu. For subjects not relating to Ubuntu support, there is also #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:59] <Kyle__> zen_: That's just...weird.  But considering I run the ubuntu-macs console only, I'm not surprised I didn't run into that.
[17:59] <MrNthDegree> Monotoko, from their site:  "Run light enough to power a 486DX with 16MB of Ram"
[18:00] <Kyle__> zen_: Bug report time :/
[18:00] <zen_> Kyle__, yeah I suppose so.
[18:00] <Kyle__> I miss tomsrtbt.
[18:00] <Kyle__> It was a great single-floppy distro.
[18:00] <diamonds> is /etc an appropriate place to put a shared (across users) directory?
[18:00] <diamonds> or /var?
[18:01] <theadmin> diamonds: /usr/share?
[18:01] <diamonds> theadmin: ahh! Thank you
[18:01] <Kyle__> diamonds: ACK  Not in /etc.  I'd say /var, if you have the space for it.  Otherwise /home is actually a good place.
[18:01] <TYDIRocks> Alright, checksum is the same now :D
[18:01] <Kyle__> TYDIRocks: WHohoo!  Always an important check.
[18:01] <TYDIRocks> Yup
[18:02] <TYDIRocks> Hopefully this works
[18:02] <ke1ha> diamonds: Here's a descent explination of a standard Linux Folder Structure: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html
[18:03] <diamonds> ke1ha: ty
[18:03] <Kyle__> OK, I need to do real work.  It's just no fun soemtimes.
[18:03] <diamonds> ooh I should print that out
[18:03] <Pici> diamonds: also in manpage format: man hier
[18:03] <ke1ha> There's a Wiki on it as well, just search Linux Folder or Dile Structure, you pull it up.
[18:04] <ke1ha> whoops Folder or File ... Keep in mind, each Distro may do things a little diffrent, but those are general assumptions.
[18:04] <theadmin> ke1ha: It's FHS.
[18:04] <theadmin> ke1ha: Filesystem Hierarchy Standard.
[18:05] <theadmin> That's what one should search for
[18:06] <theadmin> ke1ha: http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
[18:06] <failure> anyone have a dell latitude e5420 with ubuntu 11.04 thats works allright ? :P
[18:06] <TYDIRocks> woot seems the third time was the charm :D
[18:06] <ke1ha> theadmin: :-) I know what it is, but not everyone know what FHS means :-)
[18:06] <enjoycrf> y u in irc chat
[18:06] <enjoycrf> and not build a custom comp
[18:07] <theadmin> !u | enjoycrf
[18:07] <Pici> enjoycrf: If you aren't providing support or asking an Ubuntu support question, we ask that you take the chatter in #ubuntu-offtopic.  Thanks.
[18:07] <enjoycrf> awww uuuuu
[18:08] <enjoycrf> u r insane
[18:08] <theadmin> enjoycrf: Those are the rules. Follow them or goodbye.
[18:08] <Onepamopa> anyone know how to manage service <name> start/stop ?
[18:09] <Onepamopa> I want to change 1 of those services to point in the right direction
[18:09] <theadmin> Onepamopa: /etc/init/*
[18:09] <theadmin> Onepamopa: Look around that directory.
[18:09] <Pici> Onepamopa: /etc/init/ holds the upstart jobs, but not necessarily the configuration files for the services themselves.
[18:09] <Pici> Onepamopa: Which service are you trying to modify, and to what end?
[18:10] <Onepamopa> Pici I removed mysql and installed percona @ my server
[18:10] <Onepamopa> init.d/mysql works fine
[18:10] <Onepamopa> but when I write service mysql start
[18:10] <Onepamopa> it loads and loads and does nothing
[18:11] <ke1ha> Pici: aren't the conf files in /etc/init and the actual scripts in /etc/init.d  ..?
[18:11] <Onepamopa> thats my questions - are they or not ?
[18:11] <Pici> ke1ha: It depends if the package has been migrated to upstart or not.
[18:11] <Biohazardsteven> Hey is anybody able to help me with my xonar essence ST, I searched google and found one thread but the links are dead....
[18:11] <Onepamopa> Pici yes, it works @ my laptop
[18:11] <Pici> !upstart | Onepamopa This might be helpful if you're planning on writing the config file yourself.
[18:12] <ke1ha> Pici: Undrtstand that upstart would put the conf in /etc/init   and anythign in the locaiton would upstart but the control scripts I think, Im gonna go look, are in /init.d
[18:13] <glebihan> ke1ha, in /etc/init, you'll find find upstart scripts (which are not config files, or at least not only)
[18:14] <genii-around> ke1ha: /etc/init/name.conf are scripts to start services using upstart methode, one of the files is rc-sysinit.conf  which is used to start the old sysvinit scripts which are in /etc/init.d
[18:14] <glebihan> ke1ha, in /etc/init.d you'll find sys V init scripts, which are progressively being replaced by upstart scripts
[18:14] <Biohazardsteven> Hey, Is there anybody able to help me with my Xonar Essence ST, It shows up under aplay -l but there is no output to my headphones....
[18:14] <Pici> genii-around: took the words out of my mouth.
[18:14] <S4nD3r> Could you please, tell me the process to install a i915 driver to video card? This looks broken and is not working properly.
[18:14] <ke1ha> Hmmm, well, in my /etc/init  the onl;y thing that in there are .conf file, an all the scripts are ion inti.d ... this is interesting.
[18:14] <glebihan> ke1ha, some upstart scripts do call scripts in /etc/init.d as the workaround to completely rewriting init scripts
[18:15] <glebihan> ke1ha, they are .conf files but are not really configuration files, look at some of them and you'll see that it's more than that
[18:15] <vincentvdBergh> good evening
[18:16] <Biohazardsteven> Hey, Is there anybody able to help me with my Xonar Essence ST, It shows up under aplay -l but there is no output to my headphones....
[18:17] <iderik> How do I see what sdx my usbkey has? is it possible to print all sdx?
[18:17] <theadmin> Biohazardsteven: Check levels under alsamixer?
[18:17] <ke1ha> glebihan: l;ooks like there's specifiying runlevels and things, but not allof of control actions in them. I need to go review this whole upstart thing I suppose.
[18:17] <Biohazardsteven> I have and there up
[18:18] <glebihan> ke1ha, some contain scripts sections, some of them just an "exec" line specifying the command to run...
[18:18] <iderik> How do I see what sdx my usbkey has? is it possible to print all sdx? I've tried to google but without result. Thanks
[18:18] <glebihan> ke1ha, but yes you would probably be better of checking some documentation
[18:18] <zen_> Kyle__, I found a setting in the BIOS where it can either boot in UEFI, or Legacy. I set it to Legacy now and I'm doing the update so it installs grub-pc and uninstalls grub-efi.
[18:18] <Pici> iderik: After you plug it in, use dmesg to determine what device it was assigned.
[18:18] <ivancp> I don't see my sound icon,  how to reset the status icons ?  (ubuntu 11.04 with gnome 2.32.1)
[18:19] <iderik> Pici: thanks!
[18:19] <feliznavidad> hello! i'm experiencing problems with my ubuntu8.04-ebox-cups network printer setup. i succeed in printing from a linux client, but from windows xp i get "access denied". i just know the problem is rather strange, because i don't even have corresponding entries in my cups/access_log for the windows client, only localhost entries... (I know this is an ubuntu channel, but maybe there is some cups/samba expert here)
[18:19] <ke1ha> glebihan: The other side of this is, or at least it appears to be, that not all services / servers are in upstart.
[18:20] <Biohazardsteven> Screenshot of alsamixer, http://i55.tinypic.com/2hyz4t3.png
[18:20] <Biohazardsteven> Could it be because the Xonar ST isn't the default soundcard??
[18:21] <OerHeks> Biohazardsteven, press F6 to change sound-device ?
[18:21] <Biohazardsteven> I had to do that, to change to Xonar ST
[18:21] <glebihan> ke1ha, well not all have migrated yet, but as genii-around said there is an upstart job to handle old sysvinit scripts
[18:21] <Biohazardsteven> how do I set Xonar ST as the default?
[18:22] <ke1ha> glebihan: pretty good reading at upstart.uuntu.com ... just having a gander at that now.
[18:23] <ke1ha> whoops upstart.ubuntu.com
[18:23] <zkam> can I ask a question about Ubuntu LiveCD persistence?
[18:23] <glebihan> ke1ha, yes there is good information there, and you'll see it's quite simple after all and much more powerful than sysvinit
[18:23] <Ru6yxx> Just solved the problem that Startup manager does not recognise saved default OS in multiple boot systems
[18:24] <OerHeks> Biohazardsteven, this old post should be still working > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/how-do-you-change-the-default-sound-card-in-k-ubuntu-499520/#post2508350
[18:24] <Biohazardsteven> I will look. Thanks
[18:25] <ke1ha> Yeah, and you can bounce, restart and do all sorts of neat things with just a couple lines, pretty easy compared to days of old.
[18:25] <Biohazardsteven> But, I don't have asoundconf and I tried to get it already?
[18:25] <Ru6yxx> But the solution probably means that unless Startup manager devs  deals with the bug, it should be avoided
[18:27] <Rehan> hi guys, i have a question. I currently have a Ubuntu 11.04 installed on my USB drive and I use it from there (it has persistence). I now want to use YUMI on the same flash drive so that I can have a choice between my ubuntu install and some other ISOs (win7, winxp, etc). Is there a way I can move my current Ubuntu install off of the USB, make it into an ISO and install back on to the USB with YUMI's installer? Thank you for con
[18:27] <Rehan> sidering my question.
[18:28] <dr_willis> ke1ha,  been tryng to bookmark any good upstart pages at  http://delicious.com/dr_willis  - i got one link so far. :)
[18:28] <kaellan> hi
[18:28] <catmando> hey all
[18:29] <kaellan> annyone playing dragon age orgins in wine geting massive amount of "flickering" Flashing in monitor?
[18:30] <theadmin> kaellan: Try disabling Compiz if it's on.
[18:30] <theadmin> kaellan: Other than that, it's a question directed to #winehq
[18:30] <dr_willis> Rehan,  copy your persistant save file somewhere.. and if yumi can set up to boot the iso file WITH persistance. in theory you could replace the persistance file it makes with the one you are using now.
[18:30] <kaellan> theadmin: how to disable Compis?
[18:30] <ke1ha> dr_willis:  on the blog page, they reference the upstart.ubuntu.com page a fair bit.
[18:31] <theadmin> kaellan: In earlier Ubuntu versions, System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects, and I'm not sure about now
[18:31] <Biohazardsteven> 0erHeks, I don't have asoundconf
[18:31] <dr_willis> ke1ha,  havent been there ina bit . last i was . the docs for a 'user/beginner ' were a bit sparce. for a programer  a lot of info. :)  but someone mentioned this url the other day in here ....  http://upstart.at/2011/03/11/override-files-in-ubuntu-natty/
[18:32] <dr_willis> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ looks promiseing...
[18:33] <OerHeks> Biohazardsteven, i checked it too now, sorry for wrong info :(
[18:33] <Rehan> dr_willis: actually i don't know if i have a persistence save file...I think I actually had my ubuntu install on a regular hard drive first and then I used dd to copy it over to my USB, so its not really an ubuntu install on a USB as much as it is a hard drive version moved over.
[18:34] <ke1ha> dr_willis: that's a good page, I espeically like the comment toward the bottom: "man 5 init" is yrou friend :-)
[18:34] <Biohazardsteven> Oerheks, Is there any other siluttions?
[18:34] <dr_willis> Rehan,  Dont know how you would convert that to a persistant save.. other then doing a total remaster..  I rarely use persistant setups except for trivial ussage.
[18:36] <Rehan> dr_willis: is it possible to shrink my ubuntu partition, create a new FAT32 one on the usb and then put YUMI on that and somehow give myself the option to boot to my ubuntu install through that also?
[18:36] <dr_willis> Rehan,  if your pendrive is using grub2. ytou can set up grub2 to boot iso files.. but that may take some work..
[18:36] <Rehan> yeah its using grub2
[18:37] <dr_willis> Rehan,  its prob. possible to do what you mentioned.. but may be a bigger hassle then just getting a new pendrive. :)
[18:37] <dr_willis> I dont know how you boot a windows iso with grub2
[18:37] <Biohazardsteven> Should I run the ubuntu updates, I mean this is a clean install?
[18:37] <dr_willis> Biohazardsteven,  update every so often is a good idea...
[18:37] <dr_willis> Biohazardsteven,  id say at least every other week..
[18:38] <Biohazardsteven> I just installed this today.
[18:38] <Biohazardsteven> and no sound
[18:38] <dr_willis> Biohazardsteven,  try and update, and upgrade and see what gets pulled in.
[18:38] <Rehan> how can I "zip up" everything in a directory into one file from a terminal in ubuntu? Thank you
[18:38] <Rehan> dr_willis: thank you for all the help -- very helpful
[18:39] <DKDude36> hey guys i'm back. still having unsolvable no-error trouble getting ubuntu to do anything at all on my imac
[18:39] <dr_willis> Rehan,  use 'tar' with the right options oif you want to compress it..
[18:39] <DKDude36> black screens, no errors, nothing
[18:39] <dr_willis> bbl. gotta chase the kids.
[18:39] <dr_willis> DKDude36,  a PPC iMAC?
[18:39] <DKDude36> dr_willis: no intel. late '09
[18:39] <DKDude36> core 2 duo
[18:39] <dr_willis> DKDude36,  :) hope you got better luck with it then i did my OLD ppc imac.. (it finally got sold...)
[18:40] <dr_willis> bbl.,
[18:40] <DKDude36> lol
[18:40] <ubi> Hello, may ask you a question about ubuntu?
[18:40] <Pici> Rehan: zip -r filename.zip folder   or tar -cvf file.tar.gz folder    (or cjf for tar.bz2)
[18:40] <trollboy> on the latest ubuntu, I no longer have a volume control in the notification area next to my clock..
[18:40] <Rehan> Pici: thank you
[18:41] <ke1ha> Rehan: tar -cvfz new-file-name.tgz dir-to-compress/  or   zip -rv9 myzipfile.zip /mydir  just a couple options
[18:41] <Rehan> kelha thank you
[18:41] <mbertens> hi everybody, i have a question; i just upgraded to 11.04 and i got an unwelcome surprise; a new desktop, which got me a little frustrated. Could it be possible in the future to let the user select if he wants the new desktop, instead of forcing it on him?. This is one of the reasons that i switched to Linux in the first place. But at least in Linux you can get it get to the classic interface which i used to. Don't understand my wrong I love Ubuntu, th
[18:42] <Pici> !classic | mbertens
[18:42] <Rehan> Pici: what would be the uncompress option if i did tar -cvf
[18:42] <mbertens> yeah i got that from the internet
[18:42] <Biohazardsteven> There is 216mbs worth of updates.
[18:43] <jessicajames> Alright, I'm having issues getting my netbook's internal microphone to work and I'm new to ubuntu so I need some assistance :( I've googled around but can't figure out how to do this, can someone help please?
[18:43] <ke1ha> Biohazardsteven: that's normal
[18:43] <DKDude36> so nobody has any idea how to help me?
[18:43] <DKDude36> newish imac?
[18:43] <DKDude36> won't boot?
[18:43] <catmando> quick question: i'm using evolution on a netbook (1024x600 res). i seem to remember that there's a switch you can pass to run evolution in a more netbook friendly format, but for the life of me i can't seem to find it again
[18:43] <admiralvorian> sup guys
[18:43] <oCean> Rehan: when using tar the 'x' option will exactract (and 't' will show contents)  so.. tar xvf filename.tar  will extract
[18:44] <kaellan> how to terminate compositor?
[18:44] <Biohazardsteven> I understand its normal, I want it to hopefully fix my sound... I don't think it will though :(
[18:44] <Biohazardsteven> When I clock System > prefs > default sound card  Nothing opens...
[18:44] <ke1ha> Rehan: A few small tutorials: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/04/unix-tar-command-examples/
[18:45] <ssst1> catmando: apt-get remove evolution && apt-get install thunderbird? was that it?
[18:45] <Rehan> kelha, awesome thanks!
[18:45] <catmando> ssst1: thunderbird has similar small screen problems to evolution
[18:45] <ssst1> not even close
[18:46] <kaellan> how to terminate compositor? OR boot witout compositor enabled.
[18:46] <ke1ha> Biohazardsteven: Understand, but it's always recommended to do all the updates first, then dive into trying to fix a specific element.
[18:47] <NixNinja__> How do I change my ident name?
[18:47] <TYDIRocks> Can someone help me get my internet working in Ubuntu?
[18:47] <TYDIRocks> It's wired
[18:47] <NixNinja__> whats wrong with it TYDIRocks
[18:47] <kv102t> So this is a firewall question but it's for a silly reason.. Anyway. I wanted to play some ubuntu games with a mate (e.g battle ships) Now on my firewall I have allowed the port for this appication but it just won't connect.  Can I see connections comming into ubuntu so I can check etc..
[18:47] <kv102t> Also is there a way to see open ports.
[18:47] <kaellan> how to look if im on GNOME?
[18:47] <NixNinja__> netstat
[18:48] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja_: Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I press Auto eth0 but it doesn't connect to the internet, I was having problems in Backtrack 5 too
[18:48] <ke1ha> kv102t: did you open andf port forward the same ports on yoru router?
[18:48] <ubi> ubuntu halt on reboot -
[18:48] <NixNinja__> try setting it static TYDIRocks
[18:48] <kv102t> ke1ha: Yes
[18:48] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja__: In the IPv4 settings?
[18:48] <lauratika> is it possible to change the BIOS of my motherboard now american megatrends for an opensource one?
[18:48] <NixNinja__> yes
[18:49] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja__: Do I set it to Manual, and then what do I add?
[18:49] <catmando> in case anyone is wondering, which you're probably not, it's evolution --express
[18:49] <NixNinja__> TYDIRocks, what is the subnet of the network you are on?
[18:49] <jessicajames> Sorry for asking again, but is anyone here good at fixing internal mic issues on ubuntu?
[18:49] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja__: Is that what my local IP is?
[18:50] <ke1ha> kv102t: you can test if it's a firewall issue by temporarily disabling it: sudo ufw disable  ... then try your app, and ceck te results.
[18:50] <NixNinja__> TYDIRocks, yes do you have a windows computer on the same network?
[18:50] <kv102t> ke1ha: is it on by default?
[18:50] <ke1ha> kv102t: if it woirks, you know the FW iptables need fixing.
[18:50] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja__: Yes, I'm running Ubuntu in a VMWare virtual machine, my local IP on this computer is 192.168.1.3
[18:50] <ke1ha> kv102t: Mine is, so fo you, just disable it, and see.
[18:51] <NixNinja__> kv102t, try DMZing your computer from the hardware router and see if it works
[18:51] <kv102t> ke1ha: ok, is there gui for the firewall?
[18:51] <kaellan> how to terminate / kill / turn of "compositor" ?
[18:51] <lauratika> any one?
[18:52] <kv102t> NixNinja__:have done for testing but am awiting test.
[18:52] <NixNinja__> TYDIRocks, okay do and Ipconfig /all and copy that info down setup ubuntu static and use and IP one up or down from yours see if it works
[18:52] <ke1ha> kv102t: yes, it's gufw, but I wouldn't bother with that unless I knoew that was this issue. Also see NixNinja__ COMMENT ABOUT dmz.
[18:52] <oCean> lauratika: that's not an #ubuntu issue
[18:52] <ubi>  my ubuntu freezes on reboot
[18:53] <kv102t> ke1ha: yeh thanks. i need to wait to test...
[18:53] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja__: So the Subnet mask and the Gateway are the same?
[18:53] <ke1ha> kv102t: ok, good luck with it.
[18:54] <traskers> for some reason a few applications (Marlin and Nautilus are the ones I've noticed) won't theme? They don't load any icons and the GTK theme is just Redmond.
[18:54] <Biohazardsteven> would you guys recommend following this if the updates don't do anything ? http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Module-virtuoso
[18:54] <NixNinja_> TYDIRocks, yes
[18:55] <kv102t> ke1ha: infact i just installed gufw so i had it.   current status is off
[18:55] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja__, I did IP: 192.168.1.8, Netmask: 255.255.255.0, and gateway: 192.168.1.1 and a popup came up sayng connection established, but the internet still won't work
[18:55] <NixNinja_> from it ping 4.2.2.2
[18:56] <TYDIRocks> Host Unreachable
[18:56] <ke1ha> kv102t: ok well ya know it's not ufw blocking anyting then, assuming it's off during testing.
[18:56] <CENSIRT> HI
[18:56] <NixNinja_> TYDIRocks, try pinging 192.168.1.1
[18:57] <lastaid> Hello, has anyone experience with custom window managers for ubuntu?
[18:57] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja__, Destination Host Unreachable still
[18:58] <ke1ha> kv102t: next things I'd be looking at is the Router of the box itself is not the issue.
[18:58] <NixNinja_> TYDIRocks, sounds like the virtual box is messed up is there a setting to configure the virtual ethernet adapter
[18:58] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja_, I'm not really sure, do you know how I could find out?
[18:59] <NixNinja_> are you using VMWare?
[18:59] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja_, yes
[18:59] <ke1ha> Normal VBox setting is, shared Nic and NAT
[18:59] <kaellan> how to terminate "compis (compositor?)" ?
[18:59] <ke1ha> Im prettry sure those are the defaults as well.
[19:00] <kv102t> tydirocks: try ping 209.85.146.99
[19:00] <NixNinja_> TYDIRocks, shut down the vbox and right click on it and goto options or prefs and see if there is a network option
[19:00] <TYDIRocks> kv102t, that does not work
[19:00] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja_, Okay
[19:01] <Tyrant> I am trying to install my Linksys AE1000 on my Ubuntu 11.04 system and I'm following this tutorial: http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=244215&page=2 - I followed all of the instructions with no errors but then when I do sudo modprobe ra0 and ifconfig ra0, I get the error Device Not Found
[19:01] <NixNinja_> kv102t, I had him try to ping verizons DNS and he couldn't hit it its not passing network to the vbox
[19:01] <bjpenn> how do i figure out whether i have an MTA installed on ubuntu10?
[19:01] <kaellan> how to terminate "compis (compositor?)" ?
[19:02] <NixNinja_> bjPenn you most likely don't do a sudo apt-get install sendmail
[19:02] <kv102t> NixNinja_: OK i was just testing he had DNS settings otherwise domain names wouldn't work as you know...
[19:03] <NixNinja_> yeah that was why I had him ping 4.2.2.2 <--verizon
[19:03] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja_, the only thing I see I can edit dioing with networks is the type of connection. I've been using NAT, should I change what I'm using?
[19:03] <ke1ha> NixNinja_: if he's gettign the IP from the router, look at the router outbound and see it the router is actually getting to the net.
[19:03] <Pici> !floodbots | CENSIRT
[19:03] <NixNinja_> dhcp isn't passing through
[19:03] <NixNinja_> try changing it
[19:03] <kv102t> tydirocks: If t's not passing to vbox then i wouldn't have thought you would get IP settings as DHCP would need an UP network.
[19:04] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja_, Should I try changing it to a bridged connection?
[19:05] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: what options are you being presented with?
[19:05] <NixNinja_> TYDIRocks, yes then set the IP to the same as what you have on you computer
[19:05] <kaellan> how to terminate "compiz (compositor?)" ?
[19:05] <kv102t> that will cause an IP conflict
[19:05] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, Bridged connection, NAT(What I am currenty using), Host-only and Custom
[19:05] <iderik> When writing the image to the usbmemory with "cat linux.iso > /dev/sdc": I cant see how the file ends up in my usbmemory? does it have to do with this "everything is a file"? Anyway, when im booting it says: "Configuration file not found." It feels like im just creating a file on my harddrive instead of on the usbmemory.
[19:06] <pr0ton> hey guys i had question about ssh
[19:06] <thunsucker> pr0ton: post question
[19:06] <pr0ton> so what would be the normal network speed, you'd need so as to edit files remotely (via SSH)?
[19:06] <thunsucker> pr0ton: it would probably work over 56k, why do you ask
[19:07] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: NixNinja_if NAT isn't working, that's an issue, but you could try bridged. Additinoally, DHCP is best in VBOX if you cna get it too work.
[19:07] <Rehan> guys i have ubuntu installed on my USB drive and am wondering if there is any way to also have ISOs for win7 and winXP on there as well so that i could choose to boot from either 1 of the 3 on startup
[19:07] <pr0ton> i have a .75M internet connection
[19:07] <kaellan> how to terminate "compiz"?
[19:07] <pr0ton> and  i find editing files via vi, to be pretty slow
[19:07] <NixNinja_> not on USB Rehan
[19:07] <thunsucker> pr0ton: so a 768kbps connection?
[19:07] <pr0ton> is it a problem with my virtual box, or is SSH slow?
[19:07] <NixNinja_> Microsoft doesn't suport that
[19:07] <kv102t> rehan: i think it is. I have seena project for it ! sec
[19:07] <pr0ton> yeah, 768 maybe, but company markets as 750kbps
[19:08] <thunsucker> pr0ton: what part of your ssh is slow?
[19:08] <thunsucker> pr0ton: connecting, typing commands, or what
[19:08] <pr0ton> thunsucker, when i'm editing files or typing commands, there is a lag
[19:08] <pr0ton> typing commands
[19:08] <pr0ton> connecting also actually... connecting is like 5-20 secs
[19:08] <thunsucker> pr0ton: are you inside a vbox VM that connections thru SSH to a remote machine?
[19:08] <Rehan> kv102t: thanks
[19:08] <pr0ton> pr0ton, not on a vbox VM
[19:08] <Rehan> kv102t: i know about the YUMI installer but I'm not sure how to get it to work with my unique situation
[19:09] <BiohazardSteven> I would like to thank everyone who tried to help me, I got it fixed by updating ubuntu :p
[19:09] <thunsucker> pr0ton: okay better question, what machine are you sshing from,your local machine or a vm?
[19:09] <ke1ha> BiohazardSteven: Well done !!
[19:09] <OerHeks> BiohazardSteven, great !
[19:09] <thunsucker> BiohazardSteven: woooot!
[19:09] <pr0ton> thunsucker, local machine
[19:10] <BiohazardSteven> But it doesn't sound so great....
[19:10] <felixzilla> hi guys
[19:10] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja_, ke1ha, I set my local Ip to the same as the computer I'm on while using bridged connection...No Dice
[19:10] <felixzilla> am very new to ubuntu
[19:10] <kaellan> how to terminate "compiz"?
[19:10] <felixzilla> but been developing software for window
[19:10] <thunsucker> pr0ton: sounds like a connection problem, what type of internet does the remote side have?
[19:10] <Pici> kaellan: replace it with some other window manager.  like: metacity --replace
[19:10] <pr0ton> thunsucker, it's webfaction... my ISP
[19:11] <pr0ton> um, i mean, hosting provider
[19:11] <pr0ton> not ISP
[19:11] <kaellan> pici: that will make me able to play games witout the gfx buggs ?
[19:11] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: well you can do that, as that's an IP conflict.
[19:11] <kv102t> rehan: yeh, thats what i got.
[19:11] <thunsucker> pr0ton: what ssh client are you using, terminal?
[19:11] <Pici> kaellan: If you install fusion-icon it will make it easier to switch between metacity and compiz.
[19:11] <pr0ton> thunsucker, yeah, terminal
[19:11] <Rehan> kv102t: know of any way I can move my ubuntu off my hard drive, then install YUMI on the drive and move it back on and have it selectable by YUMI?
[19:11] <kaellan> pici: pls help me instal meta and that icon :)
[19:12] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, okay I changed it to a different one and still doesn't work
[19:12] <kv102t> rehan: also, I got a windows7 installer from USB inc ubuntu
[19:12] <pr0ton> anything better?
[19:12] <thunsucker> pr0ton: wait the remote side is a hosted server? like web hosting or something similar?
[19:12] <Pici> kaellan: sudo apt-get install fusion-icon, and then alt-f2 fusion-icon
[19:12] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, I can actually ping 192.168.1.1, should I test with another IP/
[19:12] <thunsucker> pr0ton: sounds like they might be throttling your bandwidth, edit the files locally and then upload, problem goes away with that method
[19:12] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Im gonna go look at my Vbox server and see what I got going on there. This is a standard Ubuntu Desktop, with a VBox desktiop installed?
[19:12] <Rehan> kv102t: link?
[19:12] <pr0ton> thunsucker, that may not be a productive option soon :(
[19:12] <jtran> i'm running ubuntu 11.04 and running an app using python2.6.  I need to install python-libvirt , yet the only one i see avail in apt is for python2.7.  what can i do to install the one for python2.6
[19:13] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, what's a vbox desktop? I'm running VMWare Workstation
[19:13] <thunsucker> pr0ton: it's the only option i have with my website, ftp access. i edit locally and then tell filezilla to sync
[19:13] <NixNinja__> TYDIRocks, ping 4.2.2.2
[19:13] <kv102t> rehan: No, sorry but i would have thought a backup / restore app might do it. As linux us all file based.. kinda.
[19:13] <kv102t> rehan: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/10/create-bootable-windows-7-usb-drive.html
[19:14] <TYDIRocks> Nix_Ninja__, Alright I can ping that. Now it seems I just can't use domain names in firefox
[19:14] <NixNinja__> okay just need to setup dns
[19:14] <kv102t> rehan: Hang, i have another link to do with the two OS on one..
[19:14] <thunsucker> pr0ton: call your isp to see if they are throttling your bandwidth or if qos is killing it
[19:14] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: ok, that's thr first things I'd get rigd of, but that's another story. Vbox = AKA Virtual Box Setup, sri for the slang. NixNinja__ asked about pingin 4.2.2.2 did that resolve properly?
[19:14] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja__, Okay, how do I do that?
[19:14] <Rehan> kv102t: thanks
[19:14] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, yes it did
[19:15] <NixNinja__> TYDIRocks, same place you set the ip address is a box for DNS
[19:15] <kaellan> thx pici: now dragon age works :D
[19:16] <Pici> kaellan: yay!
[19:16] <NixNinja__> put in 4.2.2.2 for the dns server
[19:16] <kv102t> rehan: I can't find that other link now.  I'll keep looking, sorry.. But the one i gave you was the better one I think.
[19:16] <ke1ha> I'd use OpenDNS servers, just a thought.
[19:16] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja__, Okay I did that
[19:16] <Rehan> kv102t: hmm, that link shows how to make a bootable USB with Win7 on it, but it requires formatting. I'm hoping there's a way I can keep my current ubuntu install but add the ability to boot to Win7 ISO also
[19:16] <NixNinja__> now use firefox
[19:17] <kv102t> rehan: use gparted to split partition and then format the new one, etc...
[19:17] <thunsucker> Rehan: you could use gparted to resize the ubuntu partition
[19:17] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja__, I can't go to google. I'm using Comcast by the way, if it matters at all.
[19:18] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: ping 8.8.8.8
[19:18] <NixNinja__> TYDIRocks, it doesn't but you can use your router for the dns server too if you want try pinging google.com
[19:18] <kv102t> old OS on USB stick would still remain. -- WARNING, not sure about the MBR so make sure your happy before you start
[19:18] <Rehan> thunsucker, kv102t, thanks. I know how to do that step so this is a good sign! :P So after resizing the partition, how would i be able to choose between the two partitions?
[19:18] <kv102t> rehan:old OS on USB stick would still remain. -- WARNING, not sure about the MBR so make sure your happy before you start
[19:18] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, I can ping 8.8.8.8
[19:19] <ke1ha> Thats Googles DNS servers.
[19:19] <NixNinja__> TYDIRocks, can you ping google.com
[19:19] <thunsucker> Rehan: normally you install win7 then linux, linux will load grub2 which will prompt you to boot to linux or win7
[19:19] <kv102t> rehan: I guess you need to edit GRUB, someone here will be able to help.
[19:19] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja__, It says unkown host
[19:19] <thunsucker> Rehan: after you resize the partition, install win7 in the available space, when you boot it will only go to win7. once that works you will have to repair/reinstall grub2 so be able to boot to both, or something similiar to grub2
[19:19] <kv102t> rehan: idea!
[19:19] <ke1ha> NixNinja__: He's got a nameserver problem.
[19:20] <thunsucker> Rehan: my suggestion, start from scratch. wipe the drive, install win7 on part of it, then install linux on the rest
[19:20] <NixNinja__> yeah dns server needs to be setup
[19:20] <Rehan> thunsucker: this is all on a USB flash drive and I don't want to install Win7. I just want the ISO on there and have the ability to boot from the ISO or Ubuntu
[19:20] <NixNinja__> TYDIRocks, type in a terminal ifconfig
[19:20] <NixNinja__> tell me what it says for eth0
[19:20] <ke1ha> Hod one.
[19:20] <kv102t> rehan: I would use clonezilla or something to take a full backup image of the USB key to an image before you start, this could secure the MBR and everything..
[19:20] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: point your browser at: http://74.125.73.105
[19:20] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja__Which part?
[19:20] <kv102t> rehan: do you know of clonezilla?
[19:20] <thunsucker> Rehan: when you boot from a win7 iso it will start the "windows installer" it won't be a live cd like ubuntu
[19:21] <NixNinja__> dns server for ehto
[19:21] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, I'm going to try what Nixninja wants me to do first
[19:21] <bjpenn> NixNinja__, i actually did apt-get install sendmail, but theres no such package, it says  sendmail : Depends: sendmail-bin but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages
[19:21] <abstrakt> my samba no work with security :(
[19:21] <abstrakt> these docs are kind of out dated it seems
[19:21] <Rehan> thunsucker: yea, I don't want a live cd. just want the ability to install from it
[19:21] <urlin2u> Rehan, if it is a legit W7 ISO it is not a live environment but a install media, it also does not matter what order installed in.
[19:21] <ke1ha> Ok, well that IP addy, is google.com .. so you cna test both ways, IP and Resolved Name aka - google.com
[19:21] <NixNinja__> TYDIRocks, never mind its not there I forgot
[19:21] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja__, maybe I'm blind, but I don't see anything about a DNS.
[19:21] <Guest77520> i'm on a win7 boot in a ubuntu virtual box.  anyway to speed it up?
[19:21] <Rehan> kv102t: i can figure out clonezinlla. i have used 'dd' before too
[19:22] <abstrakt> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileprint-security.html
[19:22] <abstrakt> can anyone help me just get a basic username/password logon working?
[19:22] <NixNinja__> TYDIRocks,  do this sudo /etc/init.d/network restart
[19:22] <thunsucker> Rehan: as far as I know, you can't have a single usb stick that can boot and have the option to install win7 or ubuntu
[19:22] <NixNinja__> then try pinging google.com again
[19:22] <bweazy> abstrakt, have you seen codeigniter?
[19:23] <Rehan> thunsucker: it won't boot windows, only install windows. it will only boot ubuntu.
[19:23] <Rehan> thunsucker: if that makes any sense lol
[19:23] <kv102t> rehan: yeh, same kinda thing. Bootable and GUI.  I would do that. after that do the step on that link, then you could restore your current ubuntu partition to the device and then work on the MBR/Grub.
[19:23] <urlin2u> thunsucker, Rehan there are many multiple boot usb thumnb apps
[19:23] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja, it says /etc/init.d/network: command not found
[19:23] <thunsucker> urlin2u: have the name of one?
[19:23] <jtran> i'm running ubuntu 11.04 and running an app using python2.6.  I need to install python-libvirt , yet the only one i see avail in apt is for python2.7.  what can i do to install the one for python2.6
[19:23] <urlin2u> thunsucker, yeah hold on
[19:23] <NixNinja__> sudo ./etc/init.d/network restart
[19:24] <thunsucker> urlin2u: read what Rehan put, he wants to the option to boot ubuntu or install win7
[19:24] <ke1ha> not ./etc just /etc
[19:24] <abstrakt> srsly tho, what do I have to do?
[19:24] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja__, It still says command not found
[19:24] <Pici> TYDIRocks: its networking, not network.
[19:24] <abstrakt> i'm using the proper username and password, I can ssh with them
[19:24] <kv102t> rehan: If you do use clonezilla I would backup the partitions and then backup the hole USB drive. (hole: for a dull restore, Partitions: so you can just restore one off partitions)
[19:24] <abstrakt> the shares show up in windows
[19:24] <TYDIRocks> Pici, oh
[19:24] <urlin2u> thunsucker, yes I read the iso is not a live cd   http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://liveusb.info/dotclear/&ei=0X1FTsarDqHjiAKWrt3fAQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CF8Q7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmultisystem%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26site%3Dwebhp%26prmd%3Divns
[19:24] <Rehan> kv102t: ok so i make a complete image of my usb drive right now with ubuntu on it. Then I format the drive and make a Win7 install on the usb, and then I resize that partiton and somehow move my Ubuntu back?
[19:25] <ke1ha> NixNinja__: Also isn't it /etc/init.d/networking restart
[19:25] <NixNinja__> yeah my bad :)
[19:25] <abstrakt> i can get to them if i have user.group of nobody.nogroup but I can't do a normal user login
[19:25] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja__, Okay I did that and it still says unkown host google.com
[19:25] <abstrakt> i thought that security = user was supposed to use the regular /etc/passwd and /etc/group files
[19:25] <urlin2u> Rehan, you will not have luck with a thumb and window 7 install not designed for it and will break.
[19:25] <abstrakt> I installed the pam module as instructed
[19:25] <NixNinja__> in windows what does it say your dns settings are
[19:26] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja__, where can I find that?
[19:26] <thunsucker> Rehan: not for what you want, here is the link urlin2u found, it will be your best bet to get what you want working: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://liveusb.info/dotclear/&ei=0X1FTsarDqHjiAKWrt3fAQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CF8Q7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmultisystem%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26site%3Dwebhp%26prmd%3Divns
[19:26] <NixNinja__> TYDIRocks, ipconfig /all
[19:26] <Rehan> urlin2u: are you saying that i can't install win7 from a thumb drive?
[19:26] <bjpenn> NixNinja__, i actually did apt-get install sendmail, but theres no such package, it says  sendmail : Depends: sendmail-bin but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages
[19:26] <NixNinja__> I think its called name servers
[19:26] <thunsucker> Rehan: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://liveusb.info/dotclear/&ei=0X1FTsarDqHjiAKWrt3fAQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CF8Q7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dmultisystem%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26site%3Dwebhp%26prmd%3Divns
[19:26] <Tyrant> I installed drivers for my Linksys AE1000 USB wireless card on 11.04 but now the wireless manager crashes and any ifconfig command takes a long time to execute
[19:26] <NixNinja__> bjpenn, google installing sendmail on ubuntu
[19:27] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja__, it says 192.168.1.1
[19:27] <thunsucker> Rehan: there is no way to have a usb stick that has the options to boot a regular install of ubuntu or a win7 install
[19:27] <DrManhattan> so whats the future of the ubuntu GUI going to be anyhow?
[19:27] <urlin2u> Rehan, from it yes to it yes but u=it will break, MS has it setup to not run a external thumb, or at least thats the generak consensus.
[19:27] <ubi> my ubuntu freezes on reboot
[19:27] <guntbert> abstrakt: in my view http://opensuse.swerdna.org/susesambacifs.html is a pretty complete collection of how-to-samba
[19:27] <thunsucker> Rehan: however you can have a usb stick that can be a ubuntu live cd or a win7 install
[19:27] <DrManhattan> is ubuntu going to be sticking with the whole "unity" setup?
[19:27] <urlin2u> Rehan, the install to a thumb will not be stable.
[19:27] <kv102t> rehan: I would do the two backups.. Then use gparted to make the partition for windows. then use link to fill partition with Windows 7 install... Then work on MBR/Grub.
[19:27] <ke1ha> DrManhattan: Ubnutu GUI, you man Desktop?
[19:27] <abstrakt> http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/ServerType.html#id2559276 is really vague and unhelpful :(
[19:27] <ke1ha> .. you mean Desktop ?
[19:27] <DrManhattan> ke1ha, yes, you're aware of what a GUI is?
[19:28] <thunsucker> DrManhattan: we are, but it's obvious you haven't found google
[19:28] <ubi> it is on compaq nx 8220
[19:28] <ke1ha> DrManhattan: Fully aware, yes sir, Um Unity is the future of Ubuntu Desktop.
[19:28] <urlin2u> Rehan, a beautiful dream but not a stable idea W7 on a thumb installed.
[19:28] <Rehan> kv102t: two backups? wouldn't i just make one backup of my usb drive right now?
[19:28] <DrManhattan> ke1ha, k, thanks. Wasn't so hard to just say yes, was it?
[19:28] <Rehan> urlin2u: i'm not trying to have W7 installed on a thumb. I don't think you understand what I'm trying to do lol
[19:28] <bjpenn> NixNinja__, try doing that, theres not a single link thats useful
[19:29] <kv102t> rehan: If you really don't want to play with current ubuntu then I would get another USB stick to play with.
[19:29] <TYDIRocks> NixNinja__, should I change my DNS to 192.168.1.1 then?
[19:29] <ke1ha> DrManhattan: Depends on your definition of Hard.
[19:29] <DrManhattan> ke1ha, yeah, ok, maybe it was too hard a question. Thanks for trying :)
[19:29] <thunsucker> urlin2u: rehan wants a usb stick that has a full verison of ubuntu, but when it boots has the option to boot to ubuntu or install win7
[19:29] <urlin2u> Rehan, I didn't think so, you can have multiple SO's on a thumb for install I posted a link to my favorite.
[19:29] <urlin2u> ISO's
[19:29] <thunsucker> urlin2u: i explained it's not possible, only possible to have it boot a linux live cd or a windows install
[19:29] <ke1ha> DrManhattan: Yeah, Im not too good with all those Knobs & Switches & Stuff...
[19:29] <Pici> DrManhattan: Keep in mind that not everyone here speaks english as their first language.
[19:30] <ubi> 11.04
[19:30] <DrManhattan> ke1ha, that's nice.
[19:30] <DrManhattan> Pici, k
[19:30] <kv102t> rehan: Two backups, yes, I would do ONE that is a full HDD backup. The other would be a full backup but at partition level so i could replace one partition at a time, say the boot partition putting your old ubuntu OS back in the lime light.
[19:30] <Rehan> urlin2u: what about kv102t's idea of having two partitions and just having GRUB2 on the MBR and when it chooses the bootable partition that has the Win7 installer on it, it would boot like I had put a Win7 install dvd into the pc
[19:30] <urlin2u> thunsucker, cool cary on guys I was just concerned with the install order in general to a HD, does not matter there. ;)
[19:30] <thunsucker> urlin2u: all good dude, all good, Rehan is confused but doesn't want to listen
[19:31] <urlin2u> Rehan, the ISO is a install media not a live one.
[19:31] <razorandnotso> hi, I was wondering if someone could help me. i'm trying to set up ubuntu ssh server on my desktop, and i'm having trouble. i'm trying "ssh -v <user>@localhost" and it tells me permission denied (publickey)
[19:31] <thunsucker> kv102t: rehan is confused, he wants ubuntu installed on a thumb stick that also gives him the option at boot time to install win7
[19:31] <Rehan> urlin2u: i know its an install media. i want it to be an install media. not a livecd.
[19:31] <kv102t> rehan: understand why I would take two backups.
[19:31] <thunsucker> razorandnotso: sudo apt-get install ssh
[19:32] <razorandnotso> thunsucker: it's already installed
[19:32] <urlin2u> thunsucker, could be done with a loopback but a waste of time.
[19:32] <thunsucker> razorandnotso: ssh user@host
[19:32] <kv102t> thunsucker:I think this is still possible.
[19:32] <thunsucker> urlin2u: i agree :)
[19:32] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: sorry, I got sidetracked there for a minute, did you get teh DNS sorted out?
[19:33] <Rehan> kv102t: your optimism is refreshing :)
[19:33] <thunsucker> kv102t: possible is not always practical
[19:33] <urlin2u> Rehan, I have a 16 gig thumb that s full of ISO's for install=W7 and live cd of Ubuntu, bitdefender....etc.
[19:33] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, No. My computer on win7 says the DNS is 192.168.1.1 I tried changing it to that on Ubuntu but it still won't ping google.com
[19:33] <thunsucker> Rehan: urlin2u provided a link that can get you 90% there
[19:34] <razorandnotso> the problem may be this: debug1 shows that it's trying id_dsa, even though i don't have id_dsa (I once did, then erased them), and it's not trying id_rsa
[19:34] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: on your Win7 Box, open a dos box and type: ipconfig /flushdns
[19:34] <razorandnotso> thunsucker, ssh user@host returns could not resolve hostname host
[19:34] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, okay I did that
[19:34] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: now ipdonfig /all and see what the DNS is.
[19:34] <thunsucker> razorandnotso: replace user with the username and host with the ip of the box you're trying to ssh to
[19:34] <Rehan> urlin2u: can i pm?
[19:34] <urlin2u> sure
[19:35] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: sri ipconfig /all
[19:35] <thunsucker> razorandnotso: example: ssh bryan@192.168.0.10
[19:35] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, still 192.168.1.1
[19:35] <razorandnotso> thunsucker, i am, i'm just replacing my username with 'user' when i say it; shouldn't @localhost work
[19:36] <thunsucker> razorandnotso: if you're attempting to ssh yourself, use @127.0.0.1
[19:36] <razorandnotso> thunsucker, that's the same damn thing as @localhost
[19:36] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Ok, that's not right, that's probably your Gateway, and thus the root of your problem why you cna ping an IP address but not resolve a hosname.
[19:36] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, how come everything is fine on win7 though?
[19:37] <thunsucker> well razor i see it worked annd you left, lol
[19:37] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Check your routers Lan settings, first, then your main computer (not the virtual box).
[19:38] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Becasue Win7 is getting to a DNS server somehow, but your Gateway IP address is certainly not a DNS server.
[19:38] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, okay what exactly do I do in my router settings? I pressed LAN IP setup
[19:38] <ke1ha> Ok, well, what are the DNS server IP addresses in your Router Configuratiuon?
[19:38] <ke1ha> Dont change anythign, jsut tell us whet they are using.
[19:39] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, the setting is automatically get from ISP
[19:39] <ke1ha> That's the Ip address, what about DNS
[19:39] <hylian> is there a way to install gnome 2 without all the extras, just the neccessary files? gnome in the repos comes with a ton of stuff (I.E. games, etc...) i don not want or need.
[19:39] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, no it's under DNS Address. There is a 2nd radiobutton for the obtion of use these DNS servers, do you want me to tell you them?
[19:40] <ke1ha> Meaning, your ISP is giving you a dynamic IP address when you boot the router v.s assigning a static one.
[19:40] <ikonia> TYDIRocks: the package gnome-desktop will do that
[19:40] <Gasseus> is there any way to save the execution of a program between reboots?
[19:40] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: yes, please list the DNS server, and write them dwon yourself, as you need to set them on your VBOX and Win7 setup.
[19:41] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, Primary: 68.87.73.246. Secondary: 68.87.71.230
[19:41] <player1up> i have installed ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop but the wireless doesnt work.. all the wireless options are greyed out..even though wireless is switched on.. do i need to download drivers?
[19:42] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Ok, those two IP's are what you need to set as your DNS in Vbox and anywhere else you set them before.
[19:42] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, okay, do I just seperate them with commas or just use one?
[19:42] <ke1ha> if yo have a 192.168.x.x.x anywhere that's wrong.
[19:42] <Frekk> Hi! I'm on this old laptop (an Asus Eee) I just found among my, err, stuff :P It runs Ubuntu 10.04, but I can't get the wireless network to work. I'm 100 % positive it has worked fine earlier. When I type iwconfig in terminal I only find lo and eth0. Any ideas as to how I may recover my precious wlan0?
[19:43] <ke1ha> you can use just one, if your only provided one space for a DNS server, but normally there is two at least if not four.
[19:43] <Gasseus> Frekk reboot?
[19:43] <hylian> is there a way to get a pure gnome, without the extras being installed? apt and synaptic both want to download 10 tons of stuff I do not want or need.
[19:43] <Frekk> Gasseus: nope, didn't work :/
[19:43] <amb> question about package management
[19:43] <Gasseus> Frekk the answer is no then
[19:43] <schnuffle> hylian: what is pure gnome?
[19:43] <amb> is there a way to install the newest network manager from synaptic without upgrading entirely to oneiric?
[19:44] <Frekk> Gasseus: well, I appreciate the effort :P
[19:44] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, still won't work :|
[19:44] <Gasseus> amb add the oneiric repo's temporarily to upgrade network manager then remove them?
[19:44] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: are you in the Vbox, or your main computer box?
[19:44] <TYDIRocks> virtual
[19:45] <ke1ha> Ok, open you Netowrk settings, and get that back to DHCP Using NAT
[19:45] <amb> gasseus: yeah i tried that but synaptic was not happy. tried to get me to upgrade what is possible i believe?
[19:45] <ke1ha> then Reboot the Virtual box.
[19:45] <TYDIRocks> what is DHCP?
[19:45] <Gasseus> amb no clue
[19:45] <amb> yeah i might try again
[19:45] <schnuffle> Frekk: I've a 901 at home had the same problem , but I'm not at home to help you sorry
[19:45] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Vortual box will assing an IP addredss to your Virtual machine.
[19:46] <TYDIRocks> so change my settings back to nat?
[19:46] <oCean> amb: mixing repositories from other versions is not clever
[19:46] <aaas> hylian: you should try and uninstall everything (with the purge flag?) or instlal a minimum install like lubuntu and then add the gnome stuff peicemeal
[19:46] <amb> ocean: yeah i think synaptic was trying to tell me that
[19:46] <Frekk> schnuffle: 901 - same as me. But you were able to fix it?
[19:46] <TYDIRocks> Do you think I should maybe just change to virtualbox? Because I just booted up arch linux and the network was working fine
[19:46] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: But DHCP stands for Dynamic Host Configuration Protocal
[19:46] <hylian> s/quit
[19:46] <Kireji> I need to do a console upgrade from karmic to lucid - is there a web page to walk me through it?
[19:47] <qdk> Im using Ubuntu 11.04 and have setup a OpenVPN connection in NetworkManager and it works just fin, but after hibernation my VPN connect (in "VPN connections") is gone and now long shows in NetworkManager.. How do I fix that without a reboot? killing NetworkManager doesnt help, the submenu is stil blank.
[19:47] <amb> i did try downloading the latest package for my arch and using dpkg -i but that won't handle dependency management
[19:47] <amb> so it blew up also
[19:47] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: and in most cases, especially in Virtual Workstations, maybe not for servers, DHCP is what you want in order to simplify newtworking needs.
[19:48] <bluefirex> hey :)
[19:48] <glebihan> amb, use the ppa from launchpad : https://launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive/ppa
[19:49] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, I have changed the setting to NAT
[19:49] <email1459> hi i have a toshiba portege 500r i use linux on it from 2 years and i am really happy with it. Thankx LINUX
[19:49] <urlin2u> Rehan, I have said I'm through do not hassle me.
[19:49] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: ok, is this on the Netowrksettings for the Virtual machine or the VMWare Worstation settings?
[19:49] <alpha> hi,i have ubuntu 11.04 and this computer temperature applet doesn't seem to work.can anybody help??
[19:49] <amb> glebihan: ahh thanks will try that
[19:49] <Rehan> urlin2u: i was just saying thanks
[19:49] <email1459> hi i have a toshiba portege 500r i use linux on it from 2 years and i am really happy with it. Thankx LINUX
[19:49] <theadmin> email1459: No problem, we appreciate your awe, however this is a support channel. Any questiosn there?
[19:50] <theadmin> s/sn/ns/;
[19:50] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, it's for Ubuntu, it's a setting I believe only applies to this virtual machine
[19:50] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: In any cast, your Virtual machines should be set to NAT, and your VMWare Workstation Software should be set tp DHCP
[19:50] <bluefirex> I tried to use ubuntu 11.10 alpha 3 on my external hdd drive, but it always fails to install the bootloader. why?
[19:50] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, where can I change it to DHCP?
[19:50] <ThinkT510> !11.10 | bluefirex
[19:50] <theadmin> !ubuntu+1 | bluefirex
[19:50] <ke1ha> Not, Power down the virtual machine, then exit VMware, then Relaunch VMware.
[19:51] <urlin2u> bluefirex, use the custom install and point grub at the externals mbr
[19:51] <ke1ha> Whoops. Now Power down .. .. ..
[19:51] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: DHCP should be set in your VMWare Workstation Sewttings.
[19:51] <kernelpanicker> I'm ssh'd into a ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS and I need to find out what DNS software is pointing an MX record... somewhat of a n00b here so can anyone give me some hints as to what might be the default, or what commands would help me figure this out?
[19:51] <urlin2u> bluefirex, as suggested go to #ubuntu+1  am there as well.
[19:51] <bluefirex> urlin2u: I tried installing GRUB after booting from a ubuntu live cd but after then I got a minimal bash line.
[19:51] <thunsucker> urlin2u: lol rehan doesn't listen very well does he
[19:52] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, what tab in the settings?
[19:52] <urlin2u> thunsucker, a p2p w7 is not safe.
[19:52] <thunsucker> urlin2u: i agree lol
[19:52] <urlin2u> or legal
[19:52] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Im doign this from memory, I dont have a VMware setup in front of me, you'll have to find it.
[19:52] <escott> kernelpanicker, dig google.com
[19:53] <Rehan> thunsucker: urlin2u and i politely disagreed about how hashes work. I was saying that if a Win7 ISO hash matches the hash of MSDN's official Win7 ISO, there's no way there can be trojans or backdoors in it. He disagreed.
[19:53] <kernelpanicker> escott: ok
[19:53] <TheFuzzball> If I make a persistent LiveUSB stick with gtk-usb-creator, will the "persistence" apply to installed packages?
[19:53] <thunsucker> Rehan: you are wrong, i agree with him
[19:53] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: I think it's VM >> Settings, then click the network Icon
[19:53] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, okay I opened up Virtual Network editor but the DHCP settings button is grayed out
[19:53] <Rehan> thunsucker: I'm more than happy to be wrong, but could you explain it to me?
[19:53] <urlin2u> Rehan, be that yiur opinion it is against the chanel policy to discuss piracy, go away, before your banned.
[19:54] <thunsucker> Rehan: not to mention that there is a strong possibility that you're using a crack to make it work, which is another unsafe thing to do
[19:54] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Is NAT avavailable?
[19:54] <Rehan> urlin2u: I'm not discussing piracy. I'm discussing hashes.
[19:54] <thunsucker> Rehan: i dont' argue or discuss topics of that n ature
[19:54] <Rehan> thunsucker: no I have a key
[19:54] <thunsucker> Rehan: stop bothering me
[19:54] <escott> kernelpanicker, don't know if that helps with your question, but it will show you the dns records
[19:54] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, yes but it says it can only be used on one network, it has a list of VMnet0-VMnet9
[19:55] <TYDIRocks> all with different subnet addresses
[19:55] <urlin2u> Rehan, #windows ask them
[19:55] <kernelpanicker> escott: yikes, this server doesn't have dig... and I'm not the admin.
[19:55] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Select NAT, save, exit, reloaunch VMware
[19:55] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, on which subnet address though?
[19:55] <escott> kernelpanicker, you want to know what software that server is using to provide dns?
[19:55] <alpha> i have ubuntu 11.04 and  computer temperature applet doesn't seem to work.can anybody help??
[19:55] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: I dont think it matters, as they are all Virtual NICS< so pick one.
[19:56] <Rehan> thunsucker: i am just trying to figure out if my concept of how hashes work is completely wrong since 2 people in here have now told me that if a hash matches it doesn't necessarily mean the two files are identical.
[19:56] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, can I should you a picture so maybe you could see?
[19:56] <kernelpanicker> escott: yes... so I can repoint an MX record.
[19:56] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Sure, go ahead, also make sure you select connect at startup.
[19:56] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, http://k.min.us/ijwY5o.png
[19:57] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: :-) .. Ok, first hit the Restore Deafults.
[19:57] <escott> kernelpanicker, that would be hard to do not being the admin. for ubuntu server you would look at service service --status-all to identify the dns server in use, and then modify files in /etc/ corresponding to that dns server
[19:57] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: The hit "apply"
[19:57] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, okay let me turn off ubuntu first
[19:58] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: yes, not Virtual Machines shouolt be running when Configuring anythign in VMWare
[19:58] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: After restor Default, shoot us another picy real quick,
[19:59] <oCean> Rehan: http://www.mscs.dal.ca/~selinger/md5collision/
[19:59] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, okay I have restored to defaults, taking a screen
[19:59] <ke1ha> Cool TNX
[19:59] <kernelpanicker> escott: sweet, thanks
[20:00] <feyd> can anyone tell me why my XFCE menus quadrupled in size when I started an XFCE4 session manually? (startxfce4) - the menus are gigantic and totally unorganized now
[20:00] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, http://k.min.us/ij1VxQ.png
[20:00] <Rehan> thanks oCean! :)
[20:01] <ashme2> Hi , Just installed Ubuntu on a n-book , how can i get internet working ? please help..
[20:01] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Ok, seletct, NAT amd Usel Local DHCP service to distribute IP addresses to VM's
[20:01] <Rehan> oCean: does that apply to SHA-1 hashes also?
[20:02] <TYDIRocks> Should I change VMnet8 to bridging then?
[20:02] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks:  No Bridging.
[20:02] <TYDIRocks> What should I set it to then so I can change vmnet0 to NAT
[20:03] <oCean> Rehan: I'm not sure. I think you could aks in #ubuntu-offtopic, since this isn't really ubuntu specific, and there are knowledgeable folks too
[20:03] <ashme2> Get internet working ?
[20:03] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Oh, I see you selected VMnet0 .. Yes, ok, Bridge for external, automatin, NAT, then Use Local DHCP
[20:03] <Hormonal> I have a question. ;D
[20:04] <guntbert> !ask | Hormonal
[20:04] <qdk> Im using Ubuntu 11.04 and have setup a OpenVPN connection in NetworkManager and it works just fin, but after hibernation my VPN connect (in "VPN connections") is gone and now long shows in NetworkManager.. How do I fix that without a reboot? killing NetworkManager doesnt help, the submenu is stil blank. AND nothing happens selecting anything in NetworkManager not even "disconnect" works... How do I fix it without rebooting?
[20:04] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: then apply, then Ok, which should exit you from Network Manager.
[20:05] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, okay done. Should I take note of the subnet address for the NAT connection?
[20:05] <Hormonal> @guntbert, how awesome is Ubuntu with Unity? :D
[20:05] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: No, if we need that we can some back an get it.
[20:05] <Hormonal> Nah, I'm just kidding. ;P
[20:05] <Hormonal> The real question...
[20:05] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, okay, do I need to restart vmware now?
[20:05] <guntbert> Hormonal: how is that an ubuntu support question?
[20:05] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Yes, Restart VMware.
[20:06] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, does the tray icon mean it's running tho? It's kind of a pain in the ass you can't even close that
[20:06] <ke1ha> LOL.. I dont know abotu the sys-tray, but make sure they are all stopped  then restarted :-)
[20:06] <Hormonal> A week ago I started having a HD problem... Ubuntu freezes from time to time and whenever the system loads it gives me a little notice that my hard has logical errors.
[20:07] <TYDIRocks> ok xD
[20:07] <Hormonal> And options to ignore or fix them...
[20:07] <kernelpanicker> escott: how do I grep or less the 'service --status-all' output... piping it into less or more doesn't work and outputting it into file doesn't either... too much for one screen...
[20:07] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, boot up Ubuntu now?
[20:07] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: You can right-=click the syst-tray icon I think, and select exit maybe.
[20:07] <milen8204> Hello all
[20:07] <Hormonal> I choose to repair them and left my PC active for more then 24 freaking hours... Nothing helped. :S
[20:07] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha no it's grayed out :\
[20:07] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: No, not boot Ubuntu yet,
[20:07] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, alright I opened vmware
[20:08] <ke1ha> Select the Ubuntu VM, and selete the properties, or Networksettings or however you configure the Virtual machine.
[20:08] <zen_> I'm doing this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting under Non-Mac x86_64 UEFI systems but when I run this line "../grub-probe --target=device /boot/efi/efi/grub/grub.efi" I get ../grub-probe: error: cannot stat 'aufs'.
[20:08] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, okay I pressed network adapter
[20:09] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: I've not seyt these in VMware but, yoiu want to make the Virtual Box, NAT and / or DHCP and that should be all you need to do for the Virtual Machine as far as netowrkign goes.
[20:09] <Hormonal> Smart data shows warnings for... "Current pending sector count", "Airflow temperature" and "Reallocated sector count".
[20:09] <Pandachips> Hmm, I've understood "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" is deprecated.. and it's been replaced by several files in "/usr/share/X11/". However I can't find in any of these anything related to screen settings?
[20:09] <Hormonal> Will my HD die?
[20:09] <theadmin> Pandachips: No, xorg.conf still can be used.
[20:09] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha alright it's set on NAT
[20:10] <theadmin> Pandachips: It just doesn't exist if automatic X configuration takes place.
[20:10] <ke1ha> Ok, Apply, Save exit whatever thet is there, then start the Virtual Machine.
[20:10] <theadmin> Pandachips: Create it and it'll work
[20:10] <guntbert> Hormonal: yes (as will all HDs :-)), but in that case pretty soon probably
[20:10] <Hormonal> Darn it!
[20:10] <Pandachips> theadmin, so I just redirect nvidia-settings to save it in "/usr/share/X11/"?
[20:10] <theadmin> Hormonal: Hey, it's just a box. The data is what's important, save it before it's too late?
[20:11] <theadmin> Pandachips: No, it still is supposed to generate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:11] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, okay Ubuntu is powered up
[20:11] <theadmin> Pandachips: Run "sudo nvidia-xconfig"
[20:11] <Hormonal> Atleast I can now try how Ubuntu One works.
[20:11] <ke1ha> Ok, open a terminal, ping google.com
[20:11] <ashme2> When i try to ping my router , at 192.168.0.1 , it says Network is Unreachable
[20:11] <ashme2> help >?
[20:12] <Pandachips> theadmin, I tried that earlier.. though however now it seems ot make a mockery of me by actually working. Thanks :)
[20:12] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, it just hangs there, with the blinkin white box thing on the next line
[20:12] <Hormonal> Oh well, RIP my 250gb HD. T.T
[20:12]  * Hormonal starts digging a little grave.
[20:12] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, okay after awhile it says unkown host google.com :|
[20:12] <Hormonal> Thanks guys. ^^
[20:12] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: ok . that's not a good sign,
[20:12] <Pandachips> theadmin, somehow "gksu nvidia-settings" made it work, and "sudo nvidia-settings" didn't.
[20:12] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: ping 8.8.8.8
[20:13] <theadmin> Pandachips: Ah, makes sense I guess.
[20:13] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, host unreachable
[20:13] <theadmin> Well, good night everyone.
[20:13] <ke1ha> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[20:13] <TYDIRocks> okay
[20:13] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: then ifconfig | pasteninit
[20:14] <EnigmaticCoder> Does tar --update work okay with subversion repositories?
[20:14] <TYDIRocks> do you mean pastebinit?
[20:14] <ke1ha> Yes
[20:14] <TYDIRocks> Error fetching interface information: Device not found
[20:15] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: ok:  ifconfig /all | pastebinit
[20:15] <TYDIRocks> It says the program pastebinit is not installed
[20:16] <TYDIRocks> can I use apt-get install or does that need to download stuff?
[20:16] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Well that would be nice if you could get to the Net :-)(
[20:16] <azm> hi, Is there a way to install quicktime to firefox please ?
[20:16] <TYDIRocks> :|
[20:16] <azm> I need quicktime plugin for some browser app
[20:16] <Brixius> I'm trying to figure out how I can run a script any time a network cable is connected or disconnected from my system.  I've tried placing a script in /etc/network/if*.d but it appears that those scripts only get run when I do a service networking restart not when a cable is connected.  Anyone have any ideas on what I can do?
[20:17] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Which desktop are you running Unity or Ubuntu classic?
[20:17] <traskers> for some reason a few applications (Marlin and Nautilus are the ones I've noticed) won't theme? They don't load any icons and the GTK theme is just Redmond.
[20:17] <TYDIRocks> How can I find out?
[20:17] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Do you have a bar accross the top of your desktop, or Icons down the left side?
[20:18] <TYDIRocks> Bar across the top
[20:18] <TYDIRocks> I think the first time I was booting up it said something about problems with unity. I don't remember entirely though
[20:18] <Guest64974> hi all
[20:18] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Classic I think then. Right click the network Icon, and make sure it's enabled.
[20:19] <guicho> hello, i have a problem with ubuntu and virtualbox. I have a pc with 2 hdd configured in RAID 1 by the BIOS, running ubuntu 11.04 amd 64. I installed Virtualbox and made a VM with a Windows Guest. The RAID is configured with 3 partitions: 1) Ubuntu OS 2) Swapp 3) NTFS (Only Data). I attached the partition NTFS via RAW access disk (vmdk) to the VM, but when i started and go to see my data en the NTFS partitions the VM freezes and virtualbox too. I heard that
[20:19] <TYDIRocks> I think it's left click
[20:19] <guicho>  possibly permissions issue on something called udev.
[20:19] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Yeah, if it's a low resource machine, it will default to Ubuntu CLassic.
[20:19] <TYDIRocks> Enable Networking is checked
[20:19] <ikonia> guicho: fake raid is not a good idea on linux
[20:19] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: left /right, whichever, jsut makesure Netowrkign enables and disables,
[20:19] <ikonia> guicho: there is no end of instability/complications/problems
[20:20] <TYDIRocks> disable it and enable it?
[20:20] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: yes, lets try that.
[20:20] <guicho> i don't understand.
[20:20] <TYDIRocks> Still can't ping 8.8.8.8 :|
[20:21] <ikonia> guicho: fake raid as a technology under linux has a lot of problems, basing your vbox guests on it (in my opinion) is a bad idea
[20:21] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: I just want to make sure tha your gettign an IP address from VMware. in a terminal ifconfig pse.
[20:21] <TYDIRocks> what info do you need from ifconfig?
[20:22] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: ifconfig | grep "inet addr"
[20:22] <Brixius> Anyone know how to run a script anytime a network cable is connected or disconnected?
[20:22] <ikonia> Brixius: that's not going to be easy as that's not a network layer event
[20:22] <vademecum> I need to make a script file on a usb stick  executable but when I run chmod 755 <file> nothing happens, even w/sudo
[20:23] <maxmanders> vademecum: Does lsattr <file> show an 'i' in the output - could the file be immutable?
[20:23] <TYDIRocks> First line my address is 192.168.1.1, 2nd line it's 127.0.0.1
[20:23] <azm> is there alternative for quicktime plugin please ?
[20:23] <zykotick9> vademecum, is your usb formatted FAT?
[20:23]  * vademecum checking...
[20:23] <Brixius> ikonia: that's a bummer, I have a couple of systems that I need to send to remote locations, I wanted to update /etc/issue with the ip address when they plug in a cable.
[20:24] <Brixius> ikona: I don't want to give them a login to the box.
[20:24] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Im stuimmped here, 1.1 or 0.1 should be your gateway, not your IP addy, Im at a loss as to why your getting that IP address.
[20:24] <ikonia> Brixius: that's different, you want to update the file when it gets a network address, not when then plugin the cable
[20:25] <ikonia> !quicktime |azm
[20:25] <Guest64974> can anyone point me in a 1st 2nd 3rd .... step direction in being a linux guru. i have a conceptual understanding of most of it, but should i learn and perfect scripting before i do a build from kernel up. book recommendations.
[20:25] <vademecum> maxmanders: "Inappropriate ioctl for device..."
[20:25] <TYDIRocks> I think it's vmware
[20:25] <TYDIRocks> becase it seems with virtualbox I could ping google.com with arch linux
[20:25] <vademecum> zykotick9: fat, yes
[20:25] <ikonia> Guest64974: what you want doesn't exist and is nothing  to do with ubuntu
[20:25] <zykotick9> vademecum, you can't apply posix permissions to FAT/NTFS
[20:26] <azm> ikonia, I have already ubuntu-restricted-extras installed.
[20:26] <azm> ikonia, it still will not play http://www.strangekey.com/#Player:000_0*d0jmpsvy1*4!4_120,0_0*00jmpsvy1*4!4_120,0_0*70jmpsvy1*4!4_120
[20:26] <Brixius> ikonia: I guess that would work, I had put something in rc.local that updates the /etc/issue on boot. but was hoping for something more dynamic then that.
[20:26] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Ok, we're goign to try one more thing, then I really out of ideas here. Close your Virtual Machine.
[20:26] <guicho> ok, but if i have another phisical disk, can attach this via RAW to VM? If it is. I need to set permisions for disc access?
[20:27] <Guest64974> ikonia not a book that tells it all but an outline of the direction i should be going in . the order of learning that would be best
[20:27] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: The select the Ubuntu Virtual Box, and edit the network properties again.
[20:27] <ikonia> Brixius: a simple solution is to have a cronjob that runs every 5 minutes that updates /etc/issue with the currentip
[20:27] <magpii> good evening folks. if i change from windows to ubuntu on my main pc, can i still get access to my trucrypt usb hard drive?
[20:27] <ikonia> Guest64974: it doesn't exist
[20:27] <TYDIRocks> Okay
[20:27] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: This time, select Bridged Networking.
[20:27] <TYDIRocks> ok
[20:28] <Brixius> ikonia: better then nothing, that'll work.
[20:28] <ke1ha> The restart the Viurtual Box.
[20:28] <Brixius> ikonia: thanks
[20:28] <ikonia> Brixius: seems a simple solution to me,
[20:28] <vademecum> I want to use youtube-dl but I have to move it right to the usb stick cause I don't have room on my SSD
[20:28] <ke1ha> Not VMNware, the Virtual Ubuntu Machine
[20:28] <ashmew2> On the live CD right now , an ethernet cable plugged in , Wired Network still shows as disconnected , what's the issue ? Any help ?
[20:28] <Guest64974> ok, does anyone here have any suggestions
[20:28] <escott> guicho, for raw disk access by the vm you probably would need to run as root or adjust permissions in /dev,
[20:28] <scorchgeek> are there ever any files ending in ~ that it's not safe to delete? I want to delete all those stupid backup files from / down, but want to double-check to make sure I won't delete anything important
[20:28] <ikonia> Guest64974: we deal with ubuntu issues, not linux overviews
[20:28] <vademecum> doesn't seem to be a redirecting option
[20:29] <Guest64974> ok, thank you
[20:29] <TYDIRocks> okay it's booted up
[20:29] <Brixius> ikonia: sometimes when you go down a track ya get focused on one solution and forget to backup and think about other possible solutions.
[20:29] <zykotick9> vademecum, "sh youtube-dl" perhaps?
[20:29] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[20:29] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Ok, in terminal: ifconfig | grep "inet addr"
[20:29] <ikonia> Brixius: totally, that wasn't a critisism, more "seems to tick your boxes, clean and simple"
[20:29] <ziyadb> Hi, I am trying to install 11.04 . However, it errors out when around 80% done copying files and blames a I/O error.
[20:30] <TYDIRocks> :|
[20:30] <TYDIRocks> Same stuff
[20:30] <zykotick9> ziyadb, bad install media or bad HD
[20:30] <ziyadb> tried multiple times, always fails at the same percentage, but my live CD is fine, in fact, I am on it right now.
[20:30] <TheTongue2> scorchgeek, do this: find . -iname "*~" -printf "#rm -f \"%P\"\n" >editthenrun.sh
[20:30] <Brixius> kelha: how about having him type netstat -rn and check the default gw.
[20:30] <ziyadb> zykotick9: that is what I would have imagined, but I am currently speaking to you from the live CD I booted into. Also verified MD5 checksum.
[20:30] <vademecum> zykotick9: don't understand -- more detail please
[20:31] <ziyadb> it is highly improbable that the HD is the issue here, the device is brand new, just purchased it yesterday.
[20:31] <zykotick9> ziyadb, if you MD5ed the cd, then it may be the HD (run "dmesg" and look where the I/O error is, if possible)
[20:31] <glebihan> vademecum, you cannot make a file executable on a fat partition
[20:31] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: You could try that, an find the gateway, but somehting isn't work'en here: netstat -rn
[20:31] <vademecum> yes I know
[20:31] <ziyadb> I would like to try to "force install" it (i.e. write to the drive) ideally via terminal.
[20:31] <zykotick9> vademecum, from a terminal cd to the USB and try running "sh youtube-dl foo"
[20:32] <eydaimon> so I've installed ichinga (nagios alternative), but the documentation seems terrible. I can't figure out how to even connect to it. Is there any doc for how this is set up?
[20:32]  * vademecum goin in...
[20:32] <scorchgeek> TheTongue2: the list would probably be too long to scroll through, and I was looking more for a general statement that it'd be fine, but thanks
[20:32] <TheTongue2> run it after removing #'s like so, sh editthenrun.sh
[20:32] <Guest64974> my problem is the launcher and top bar want show on 11.4 . if i open a shell i dont get the max min and exit at the top, and i cant move the shell around on  the screen. I think its a window or session manager but I dont which or how to fix.
[20:32] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: On the second line I think wil be your gateway, but Im not uderstanding why your not gettign an IP from the VMware Workstation/.
[20:32] <TheTongue2> mmm, ok ...
[20:32] <magpii> can i use my trucrypt disk which is on my windows pc, on ubuntu if i install the os?
[20:33] <TYDIRocks> the 2nd line says 169.254.0.0.
[20:33] <scorchgeek> magpii: yes, you can, truecrypt containers are cross-platform
[20:33] <TYDIRocks> The gateway for it is 0.0.0.0 tho
[20:33] <ziyadb> zykotick9: tons of this, " Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 32685"
[20:33] <zykotick9> ziyadb, sr0 is the cdrom drive
[20:33] <ziyadb> with contiguous block numbers.
[20:33] <Brixius> kelha: several other things to check, vm network configuration(make sure it's not host only, should be NAT or Shared)
[20:33] <scorchgeek> magpii: though if you mean the whole windows drive is encrypted, I'm not entirely sure how that would work
[20:34] <magpii> scorchgeek: cheers mate, windows has pissed me off for the last time, gonna stick ubuntu on my pc
[20:34] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: that to me doesn't seem right at all. Im stuck, I dont know why it's not DHCPO from VMware.
[20:34] <ziyadb> zykotick9: ah, so particular sectors of the CD are no good?
[20:34] <TheTongue2> I just use cryptsetup, but yar, truecrypt is better
[20:34] <ziyadb> that is quite odd, considering that I am booted into it right now.
[20:34] <zykotick9> ziyadb, it's either the cd itself or the drive
[20:34] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, I think I'm just going to give up, My dad is coming home today with my laptop, I think I'll just install it on that
[20:34] <magpii> scorchgeek: no, i have trucrypt on an external usb drive and will be wiping windows off the pc its connected to
[20:34] <TheTongue2> ok goodnight, I must sleep, happy hacking
[20:34] <ziyadb> zykotick9: CD, laptop is new.
[20:34] <Brixius> kelha: You've been working with him, so I don't want to confuse the matter, I'm not sure what you checked or not yet.
[20:34] <scorchgeek> magpii: ok, that ought to work fine then, though I've only tried it with file containers
[20:35] <ziyadb> zykotick9: is there a way I can make it copy the files anyway? Since the live CD appears to be working fine.
[20:35] <ke1ha> Brixius: We tried NAT, no joy, went to bridged, and this is where we're at now.
[20:35] <glebihan> Guest64974, try launching "metacity" or "compiz" from your shell
[20:35] <zykotick9> ziyadb, not that i know of.  I'd recommend you burn it again.
[20:35] <ziyadb> zykotick9: thanks, I will.
[20:35] <magpii> scorchgeek: gonna wait for my hd to stop copying files then gonna hook it up to my ubuntu laptop and see if theres a problem
[20:35] <Brixius> kelha: ok, well sounds tydirocks is giving up on it anyway's
[20:36] <ektos> I'm having trouble getting ubuntu to see both of my video cards
[20:36] <scorchgeek> magpii: yeah, like I said, should work just fine but can't hurt to confi
[20:36] <scorchgeek> *confirm
[20:36] <TYDIRocks> I'm going to try virtualbox
[20:36] <vademecum> is there a way to "pipe" the output of youtube-dl from /home to /media without using any precious, limited SSD?
[20:36] <ke1ha> Brixius: TYDIRocksWe verified the DNS and router settings, then went to VMware VM Settings, then to the Virtual host settings, but its not playing ball. It's somethign simple Im sure, but Im not finding it.
[20:36] <Guest64974> while in the shell I can get the compiz config center
[20:36] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Virtualbox, much easier :-)
[20:36] <esgy> hey all, i got problem issues with installing spidermonkey, does anyone could help me (newbie mode) to install it properly on my ubuntu?
[20:38] <dr_willis> !info spidermonkey
[20:38] <esgy> damn that s the reason ....
[20:39] <Guest64974> glebihan: i can open anything with the command line but I dont think I have a window manager is the problem. I dont know how to tell or what to do if i dont.
[20:39] <dr_willis> whats spidermonkey anyways?
[20:39] <esgy> javascript module
[20:39] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Have a read here, jsut to see how things work: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[20:39] <glebihan> Guest64974, did you try running "metacity" ? this should have launched the window manager
[20:39] <scorchgeek> esgy: there's source code that says it should compile, you just can't install it through the package manager
[20:39] <scorchgeek> https://developer.mozilla.org/En/SpiderMonkey/Build_Documentation
[20:40] <Guest64974> I'm going to in a minute I switched to classic, so I will have to logout first
[20:40] <esgy> scorchgeek, i tried to compile but my program using spidermonkey (peepdf) tell me it needs spidermonkey
[20:41] <scorchgeek> esgy: right, then you need to install spidermonkey first
[20:41] <Brixius> TYDIrocks: I'd verify that your vmware installation is correct, if your running it in linux, make sure your configuration worked successfully, I believe there's some kernel modules that need to be compiled, if they are not built correctly your networking won't work.  If your running VMWare on windows, try reinstallilng it and rebooting to make sure all drivers are loaded.
[20:41] <ashmew2> Can't get Ethernet to work , lspci | grep Ethernet shows Ethernet Controller from Marvell Technology..Any help ?
[20:42] <esgy> scorchgeek, tx
[20:43] <Holden> Hello, has anyone tried flash 11 beta 2 (64bit) with lucid? Everything seems to work, but when I close firefox it hangs because plugin-container won't quit
[20:44] <hagus> Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[20:44] <hagus> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[20:44] <ikonia> hagus: what are you trying to do ?
[20:44] <urlin2u> Holden, personally I just install the FF add on flash aid it will install the betas, and clean up the crud.
[20:44] <glebihan> hagus, you probably forgot to use sudo
[20:45] <hagus> When I use sudo :
[20:45] <hagus> sudo: must be setuid root
[20:45] <dr_willis> sounds like somthing is broken badly........ hagus
[20:45] <ikonia> hagus: that file has nothing to do with sudi
[20:45]  * hagus quivers
[20:45] <ikonia> sudo
[20:45] <ikonia> hagus: what have you done that caused this problem
[20:46] <hagus> I think that I chowned /usr -R
[20:46] <dr_willis> ls -l /usr/bin/sudo
[20:46] <dr_willis> -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 156820 2011-05-23 04:07 /usr/bin/sudo
[20:46] <Holden> urlin2u, yes, i could try that, but I wanted to know if anyone else had noticed that
[20:46] <hagus> to belong to calum
[20:46] <dr_willis> hagus,  that could be bad.. :)
[20:46] <dr_willis> check permissions on that /usr/bin/sudo
[20:46] <ikonia> hagus I suggest a re-install
[20:46] <ikonia> hagus: the permisisons on that set of files are important
[20:47] <hagus> -rwxr-xr-x 2 calum root 144508 2011-05-30 06:51 /usr/bin/sudo
[20:47] <ke1ha> Well that's interesting, how'd the owner become calum
[20:48] <hagus> I chowned
[20:48] <hagus> I gave the command chown calum /usr -R
[20:48] <zykotick9> ke1ha, hagus recursively chowned /usr.  hagus i hope this is a learning experience for you.
[20:48] <ikonia> hagus: I would suggest re-installing to get a sane system back.
[20:49] <ke1ha> chown -R is a dangerous command, especially in /usr
[20:49] <hagus> I have a wube installation (win7 dual boot)
[20:49] <hagus> I think it is wube you call it.
[20:49] <urlin2u> wubi
[20:49] <hagus> ok
[20:49] <hagus> wubi
[20:49] <hagus> thanks
[20:50] <hagus> Could I not just chown it back to root?
[20:50] <ke1ha> To be honest, I'd woudn't know where to start in trying to restore those permissions correctly.
[20:50] <zykotick9> hagus, probably not everything was owned by root - reinstall is best idea
[20:50] <ikonia> hagus: I would suggest re-installing, as you've done more than just chown it
[20:50] <hagus> So, I should save my data and reinstall?
[20:50] <glebihan> hagus, cannot hurt to try, but you'd probably be better of reinstalling to have a clean system
[20:50] <ikonia> hagus: yes
[20:51] <ke1ha> hagus: Problem is, not all apps in /usr are owned by root, so changing them back could break many other things.
[20:51] <glebihan> ke1ha, worth a check but I don't think I have anything in /usr not owned by root
[20:51] <segfault> Just do it for fun and report back results. Probably best to reinstall though.
[20:52] <ke1ha> for example, in /usr you have /local /share /src etc etc etc, those all have diff owners / group combo's.
[20:52] <hagus> I shall try but a nick leg segfault scares me :)
[20:52] <AntY> Trying to remove GRUB2 and install GRUB legacy through a live session, anybody knows how to do that?
[20:52] <bobweaver> hi there last night my computer got hijacked what do I do now ?
[20:53] <rafaht> Hello!
[20:53] <ikonia> AntY: you just overwrite grub2 on the mbr with grub1
[20:53] <ikonia> !grub > AntY
[20:53] <ikonia> bobweaver: re-install
[20:53] <rafaht> I have a problem and described in a paste url, have problem with this?
[20:53] <rafaht> My problem is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/664515/
[20:53] <Brixius> bobweaver: fdisk format reinstall
[20:53] <iridium_> bobweaver, reinstall and different paswdç
[20:54] <ikonia> iridium_: how do you know it was even a password that got the exploit,
[20:54] <bobweaver> how to make sure all ports are closed
[20:54] <ke1ha> In any case, klike ya said, can't hurt I suppose, at least it would be back to a safe level user, being sudo that is.
[20:54]  * hagus begins the backing up process
[20:54] <TYDIRocks> Lol virtualbox got my internet working instantly
[20:54] <TYDIRocks> screw VMWare
[20:54] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: :-)
[20:54] <TYDIRocks> uninstall
[20:54] <TYDIRocks> xD
[20:54] <ikonia> bobweaver: only run the services nyou want
[20:54] <bobweaver> I was using tor and stoped using it and as soon as I stoped using it I got D0s
[20:54] <Brixius> bobweaver: backup your data might not hurt to do a dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda(or hda) to wipe your partition table.(That will erase EVERYTHING from your disk)
[20:54] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Itr's all I use, and it's worked great for me, glad you got it working mate.
[20:54] <Synthead> is there online documentation about the "part" command in the ubuntu installer?
[20:54] <segfault> Remove all Microsoft products from the building.
[20:54] <TYDIRocks> Thanks
[20:55] <hagus> When you say reinstall, that is not the same as dropping down to root and asking it restore my ubuntu desktop?
[20:55] <ikonia> segfault: no-one is using any microsoft product, please keep the pointless bashing comments out of this channel
[20:55] <chili555> bobweaver, how r ya, d00d?
[20:55]  * hagus used ms to install his version of ubuntu
[20:55] <bobweaver> chili555: bad got hacked last night bad
[20:56] <iridium_> well passwds as 1234 are uber secure
[20:56] <iridium_> xD
[20:56] <bobweaver> right down to mem and battey control
[20:56] <gh0st> I can't open 7zip with archieve manager? What should I use?
[20:56] <chili555> bobweaver, what are your symptoms?
[20:56] <ikonia> iridium_: got anything useful to say or just make silly comments ?
[20:56] <bobweaver> hang on will show pic
[20:56] <CaptWho> i installed a program called kismet ( a wifi sniffer ) on my computer and it installed okay.  what didn't happen is that an icon for the program get installed in the desktop menus.  is there a website that will show me how to create an icon and link a program to it?
[20:56] <ke1ha> gh0st: unzip
[20:56] <zykotick9> gh0st, install p7zip-full and AM "should" be able to open them
[20:56] <ikonia> bobweaver: we don't want to see pictures in here
[20:56] <ikonia> bobweaver: please do not post pictures
[20:57] <bobweaver> ikonia: it is with imgshack
[20:57] <CaptWho> ... if that made sense
[20:57] <ke1ha> gh0st: actually its gunzip .. sri
[20:57] <ikonia> bobweaver: we don't need to see it
[20:57] <Synthead> nobody answers questions in this room
[20:57] <qinns>  gh0st Need to install p7zip
[20:57] <gh0st> I'm going to try p7zip.
[20:57] <ke1ha> Synthead: what's your quesiton?
[20:57] <ikonia> segfault: many people do, you've just missed a ton of questions get answered
[20:57] <ikonia> segfault: sorry, that was for Synthead
[20:58] <Brixius> CaptWho: I'm guessing there's a tutorial out there, but if you want to do wifi sniffing and stuff, try dling BackTrack you can boot from USB and everything  you need is allready installed...
 is there online documentation about the "part" command in the ubuntu installer?
[20:58] <bernhard1>  this is my problem.. installed ubuntu server 11.4.. but when it is shut down it says it is not cleanly unmounted..  then.. when i boot i get this error. mountall: fsck /boot{344} terminated with status 1  then.. about 50 lines.. cannot write bytes: broken pipe  when i fix the errors with knoppix cd after one or two reboots i have the same error. This is my syslog anybody can help ?
[20:58] <bernhard1> http://pastebin.com/4wRJdULM
[20:58] <thorn__> ##vim
[20:59] <thorn__> #vim
[20:59] <ke1ha> Synthead: There's allot of documentaion on the ubuntu installer, but Im not not understand what your asking "part command"
[20:59] <ke1ha> Synthead: Are you referring to Partitions ?
[20:59] <ikonia> I don't think there is a "part" command in that respect
[20:59] <Synthead> ke1ha: like in the kickseed file, the 'part' commands that determine the partitioning scheme
[21:00] <CaptWho> thanks Brixius i'll look into that, but i'd really like to get kismet working from the desktop
[21:00] <ke1ha> Synthead: The online doecs wont go to that level, if you need that level of detail, id ask in #ubuntu-dev
[21:00] <thorn__>  Hello, I need vim with python support. I installed vim 7.3 but it doesn't support python so I cannot use Gundo or ipython in vim... Any help?
[21:00] <zykotick9> CaptWho, you might need to use "gksudo kismet"
[21:01] <ke1ha> Synthead: They will detail how to Use the partitioner, but noe explain the schema details within the installer.
[21:01] <Synthead> ke1ha: there is one person in that room :s
 never done that before
[21:01] <uabn93> hello
[21:02] <ke1ha> Synthead: Understansd, maybe moto, or in the Forums v.s. IRC>
[21:02] <glebihan> thorn__, did you have a look at http://wiki.python.org/moin/Vim ?
[21:03] <bjpenn> hmm weird, i went into the folder and created a dir called plugins, and then symlinked it to another folder thats called plugins
[21:03] <ke1ha> Synthead: also, #ubuntu-installer maybe somone there that can at least point you in the right direction.
[21:03] <thorn__> glebihan, I think this is vim 7.0. I need vim 7.3, because Gundo supports only 7.3
[21:04] <bjpenn> now whenever i go into plugins, i dont actually go into plugins, i go into the folder before plugins
[21:04] <bjpenn> so when i go into plugins
[21:04] <bjpenn> i see another folder called plugins
[21:04] <glebihan> Synthead, the room is #ubuntu-devel
[21:04] <ukjason> :)
[21:04] <zykotick9> bjpenn, you didn't need to create the plugins folder, just the symlink
[21:04] <bjpenn> ah
[21:04] <bjpenn> so now im hesitant to delete this folder
[21:05] <bjpenn> if i delete it, will it also delete the real folder?
[21:05] <ke1ha> There's a boatload of folks in #ubuntu-devel
[21:05] <zykotick9> bjpenn, if it's a Hard link that is true, soft you should be ok
[21:05] <bjpenn> i used ln -s
[21:05] <bjpenn> does that mean its a hard link?
[21:05] <zykotick9> bjpenn, that's soft
[21:05] <bjpenn> how do u create a hard link, i would google, but just for convienence :p
[21:05] <zykotick9> bjpenn, sorry "sympolic" i think is the actual name
[21:06] <zykotick9> s/sympolic/symbolic/
[21:06] <bjpenn> how do i make sure i dont delete /opt/rt4/plugins (real folder)
[21:06] <bjpenn> and /usr/local/rt4/plugins is a folder i created
[21:06] <zykotick9> bjpenn, i'd make a backup of that directory first
[21:06] <eydaimon> question, in the sources.list repo,  I can see that icinga is version 1.4.2, but when I install, I only get 1.2.1. What do I need to do to get 1.4.2?
[21:07] <bjpenn> zykotick9 ok
[21:07] <eydaimon> zykotick9: any idea?
[21:07] <ke1ha> bjpenn: little ln tutorial: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/understanding-unixlinux-symbolic-soft-and-hard-links.html
[21:07] <bjpenn> thanks
[21:07] <hagus> neither sudo chown root /usr -R worked nor without sudo.
[21:07] <zykotick9> eydaimon, sources.list doesn't list version numbers?
[21:08] <hagus> So, am off to windows to reinstall my ubuntu.  Will wubi just overwrite itself?
[21:08] <eydaimon> zykotick9: i'm just trying to install the latest version
[21:08] <eydaimon> zykotick9: but the default onlyu installs version 1.2.1
[21:08] <glebihan> eydaimon, the version in the repos (for natty) is 1.2.1-1
[21:08] <zykotick9> !info icinga
[21:09] <eydaimon> glebihan: ok. so what if I want to use the 1.4.2 which is listed at http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/i/icinga/ ?
[21:09] <uabn93> good day, everyone. I'm having trackpad issues on my laptop in 11.04. anyone familiar with this bug? the mouse freezes as soon as i log into any account
[21:10] <carlos> eu queria usar mais o ubuntu
[21:11] <bjpenn> root@ocean:/opt/rt4/local# ls
[21:11] <bjpenn> etc  html  lib  man  plugins  po
[21:11] <bjpenn> root@ocean:/opt/rt4/local# cp ./plugins ./plugins.bak
[21:11] <bjpenn> cp: omitting directory `./plugins'
[21:11] <guntbert> !br | carlos
[21:11] <bjpenn> hmm for some reason its not working
[21:11] <ikonia> bjpenn: cp -r
[21:11] <zykotick9> bjpenn, why do you have root on ubuntu?
[21:12] <bjpenn> is that b ad?
[21:12] <uabn93> i also know that "gconftool-2 --set --type boolean /desktop/gnome/peripherals/touchpad/touchpad_enabled true" enables the trackpad again, but how can i have it stay true permanently?
[21:12] <maxmanders> bjpenn: sudo cp -ra ./plugins /plugins.bak
[21:12] <bjpenn> im use to doing everything as root
[21:12] <carlos> #ubuntu
[21:12] <zykotick9> bjpenn, ubuntu was designed to NOT use the root account
[21:12] <ke1ha> not a good practice to do on a root-sudo system
[21:12] <carlos> #ubuntu-br
[21:13] <zykotick9> carlos, /join #ubuntu-br
[21:13] <ke1ha> bjpenn: root-sudo info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[21:13] <eydaimon> glebihan: no idea?
[21:13] <carlos> */join#ubuntu -br
[21:13] <glebihan> eydaimon, those are packages for oneiric
[21:14] <fructose> What's the "right way" to have Ubuntu set JAVA_HOME automatically ?
[21:14] <eydaimon> glebihan: is that the next release?
[21:14] <glebihan> eydaimon, yes
[21:15] <uabn93> no help?
[21:15] <KanKouni> Hello
[21:15] <yhager> I've added ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental, and installed kmail 4.7, but now I want to downgrade back. I removed the ppa from apt sources, and tried 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade', but it didn't downgrade it
[21:15] <JimmyNeutron> fructose: modify your .bashrc and add it to it
[21:15] <eydaimon> well, to source I go
[21:15] <yhager> how do I go about removing/downgrading a package I no longer have the repo defined for?
[21:16] <eydaimon> frustrating to have packages so far behind
[21:16] <glebihan> eydaimon, you could still try installing lastest version from sources
[21:17] <fructose> JimmyNeutron: That would require manual intervention every time change my version of Java
[21:17] <fructose> JimmyNeutron: I'm looking for something similar to update-alternatives
[21:17] <eydaimon> glebihan: that's what I'm doing. I'm just downloading it from source
[21:18] <maxmanders> fructose: couldn't you create a symlink to whichever java you're interested in and then use that symlink in your .bashrc?
[21:18] <fructose> maxmanders: Wouldn't I then just have to manually alter the symlink?
[21:19] <mongy> yhager, could use synaptic and 'force version'
[21:19] <maxmanders> fructose: so you want to be able to install rolling new versions of jdk and have your environment automatically know which is the latest?
[21:19] <yhager> mongy: I don't know which apps where installed from that repo - I want to downgrade them all, as if that repo didn't exist in the first place
[21:20] <chumbarros> eu nao consigo instalar aplicativos no ubuntu
[21:20] <mongy> yhager, or just remove and install it again... make sure you apt-get clean to make sure the newer version aint in cache still
[21:20] <mongy> yhager, you need ppa-purge then
[21:21] <ke1ha> Yeah, that's like saying dotn go away madd mr ppa package, just go away :)
[21:22] <yhager> mongy: ppa-purge looks good, but I guess it needs the ppa to exist in the sources.list to do its job.. Doesn't the installed package db have the info where it was installed from?
[21:23] <mongy> yhager, yes
[21:23] <mongy> yhager, the ppa needs to exist
[21:23] <yhager> mongy: Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: kubuntu-ppa/experimental ppa
[21:23] <yhager> oh, maybe it's my bad..
[21:24] <mongy> yhager,  you could do a search in synaptic for the ppa name which is usually incorporated in the name of the package
[21:25] <fructose> maxmanders: No, I just want my JAVA_HOME variable to update in sync with the alternatives system
[21:25] <mongy> yhager, or just click the origin tab and show all apps from that ppa
[21:25] <yhager> mongy: my sources.list has
[21:25] <yhager> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/experimental/ubuntu natty main
[21:25] <yhager> what parameter does ppa-purge expect to remove this?
[21:25] <newbie22> I am about to install Ubuntu on a dell PC that already has windows XP installed.  Should I first partition the hard drive OR should I do the partitioning during the  Ubuntu installation procedure  ???
[21:26] <urlin2u> yhager, look in sources.list.d
[21:26] <mongy> exception_x,  ctcp version?  seriously?
[21:26] <ikonia> newbie22: the partitioner is part of the installer
[21:26] <yhager> (I'm sorry I don't know how to operate GUI applications)
[21:26] <exception_x> just lerning irc
[21:26] <yhager> urlin2u: that's what I did. I am now trying to purge it, but I am not sure what should the arguments for ppa-purge be
[21:26] <exception_x> sorry dude :)
[21:26] <ChrisPitzer> hey all. I'm having a fun problem today. My computer will become non-responsive for about 1 second very 4 seconds, on rhythm. And often will ignore my keystrokes durring that time. anyone seen this before?
[21:26] <newbie22> OK, so just download the iso, burn the image to CD, and do the install,  This will create a dual boot for me..
[21:26] <maxmanders> fructose: I'm afriad my Java know-how isn't that good any more (last used 1.5 :-S) Think I'm out...
[21:27] <mongy> yhager, tried ppa-purge yet?
[21:27] <urlin2u> yhager, do you have ubuntu tweak installed or you just cli?
[21:27] <newbie22> ikonia: ?
[21:28] <ikonia> !install | newbie22
[21:28] <bobweaver> ikonia: so after talking it over with a friend showing pics and syslog it was not a hack or crack job but mem failure
[21:28] <ikonia> bobweaver: ok
[21:28] <ubi> problems with reboot
[21:29] <glebihan> yhager, ppa-purge should be called this way : ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental
[21:29] <ke1ha> yhager: I think this should work: sudo ppa-purge ppa:kubuntu-ppa/experimental ppa
[21:29] <bobweaver> maybe you should not tell people to not show what they think is the problem
[21:29] <newbie22> ubottu: OK, thanks, that  where I am not at these sites. Just thought I  would throw out a few questions.  But, OK,  I follow the instructions...
[21:29] <bobweaver> just a thought
[21:30] <ke1ha> Hmm maybe wiothout the final ppa appended on there.
[21:30] <yhager> ok, ppa-purge seems to work. Great advice, thanks glebihan, ke1ha and mongy
[21:30] <fructose> maxmanders: Might just be there's nothing existing to do what I'm wishing for. Oh well
[21:31] <glebihan> yhager, you're welcome
[21:31] <ikonia> bobweaver: maybe you should not run into a channel making wild claims
[21:31] <bobweaver> there are not so wild
[21:32] <bobweaver> my friend
[21:32] <ikonia> bobweaver: I've been dosed and cracked - yes, that's a wild comment to make
[21:32] <bobweaver> if you would have seen the pics
[21:32] <bobweaver> I have been dos also
[21:32] <bobweaver> it sucks
[21:32] <ikonia> bobweaver: I don't need to see pics
[21:33] <bobweaver> I dont want to show you anymore
[21:33] <ikonia> then there is no problem
[21:33] <lilcyber> hey
[21:34] <urlin2u> lilcyber, hey what's up. ;)
[21:34] <lilcyber> How do you fix xfce, because the menus are not working. Nothing much.
[21:34] <bobweaver> I am just saying that if a member comes into the room saying I got hacked ask ARE YOU SURE
[21:34] <lilcyber> urlin2u, how are you?
[21:34] <urlin2u> lilcyber, can you give an example?
[21:34] <ke1ha> It happens, but usually there's a prtetty good reason for it happening.
[21:34] <ikonia> bobweaver: no
[21:35] <urlin2u> lilcyber, good
[21:35]  * bobweaver slaps ikonia with a large mouth bass 
[21:35] <lilcyber> Ok when I sign into ubuntu using the xfce session, I cannot see the menus for exit minimize, etc. That is good urlin2u.
[21:35] <ikonia> bobweaver: stop the silly "/me" commands please.
[21:36] <urlin2u> lilcyber, the window buttons?
[21:36] <lilcyber> Yeah
[21:36] <guntbert> bobweaver: I suggest that next time with a similar problem you say something like "my system is behaving weird: ......., can someone have a look at those screenshots?"...
[21:36] <urlin2u> lilcyber, have you tweaked compiz?
[21:36] <lilcyber> Not at all urlin2u
[21:37] <bobweaver> guntbert: thanks you I will take that in :)
[21:37] <dankest> My SSHFS keeps unmounting after about 20m.  Is there any way to prevent it from doing that?
[21:37] <bobweaver> that is how we all learn from each other
[21:37] <guntbert> bobweaver: :)
[21:37] <willwh> dankest: use NFS? ^_^
[21:38] <willwh> dankest: that is odd - I didn't have those issues when using it
[21:38] <urlin2u> lilcyber, you might install the compiz config setting manager and tick widows decorations on.
[21:38] <lilcyber> It is on.
[21:38] <willwh> dankest: you do know that Nautilus (connect to server option) will let you SCP
[21:38] <willwh> and you can set a bookmark too
[21:38] <ke1ha> dankest: Is that the SessionAliveInterval setting, set to 20 Maybe?
[21:38] <GhostWolf> is there a way to find out what type of wireless card thats is onboard?
[21:38] <willwh> GhostWolf: lspci at a terminal
[21:39] <urlin2u> lilcyber, On the ubuntu natty I have it tweaked in natty for the cube and use a compiz restart when I loose the window buttons panel.
[21:39] <bobweaver> is there a way to take the system that I have right now then which is 10.10 and upgrade to 11.04 here is the catch I have other repos that are for 10.10
[21:40] <lilcyber> urlin2u, well I switched windows manager to kubuntu-desktop, and then use xfce.
[21:40] <GhostWolf> willwh, that will tell me what model it is?
[21:40] <bobweaver> how to keep all programs install and working that are for 10.10 on 11.04
[21:40] <glebihan> bobweaver, your third party repositories will be disabled during the upgrade
[21:41] <bobweaver> guntbert: is there a way to enable them ?
[21:41] <bobweaver> !upgrades
[21:41] <glebihan> bobweaver, after the upgrade you will be able to re-enable them (but you should make sure they are compatible)
[21:41] <guntbert> bobweaver: ^ says it :)
[21:41] <urlin2u> lilcyber, I was turned on the this since the fusion icon doesn't run correctly in 11.04  https://launchpad.net/displex
[21:41] <bobweaver> glebihan:  to make sure that they are compadibal
[21:41] <urlin2u> to this
[21:42] <stuffed-crust> My system is behaving really wierd can sombody check this out http://goo.gl/dEHk7
[21:42] <willwh> GhostWolf: it will show you attached pci devices
[21:42] <lilcyber> urlin2u, what is that?
[21:42] <bobweaver> stuffed-crust: WTF
[21:42] <stuffed-crust> wierd heh
[21:42] <guntbert> !language | bobweaver
[21:43] <LasersFarm> weird.
[21:43] <bobweaver> sure
[21:43] <urlin2u> lilcyber, has a bunch of controls for compiz and other apps similar to the fusion icon.
[21:43] <glebihan> bobweaver, if those third party repositories are ppas, they should also be available for 11.04
[21:43] <iridium_> stuffed-crust, run an apt-get deep clean
[21:43] <ke1ha> Ok, that' was interesting, an really problems we can help with?
[21:43] <stuffed-crust> iridium_ : k will do :)
[21:43] <bobweaver> glebihan: I see up grade the repos then updater and upgrade should fix it ?
[21:44] <guntbert> stuffed-crust: please refrain from makong jokes in a support channel
[21:44] <guntbert> *making
[21:44] <stuffed-crust> !makong
[21:44] <stuffed-crust> oh
[21:44] <stuffed-crust> k
[21:44] <lilcyber> But it isn't the icons that I need help with urlin2u, it is the actual menu bar that is completely missing.
[21:44] <exception_x> cya
[21:44] <ke1ha> lilcyber: is it missing from the top and bootom of the screen, or just top bar?
[21:45] <glebihan> bobweaver, it should, but as I said you should be careful with third party repositories
[21:45] <lilcyber> just the top bar of every app
[21:45] <ke1ha> lilcyber: Ok, wasn't what I thought it could eb then.
[21:45] <bobweaver> I hear that
[21:45] <lilcyber> Yeah
[21:45] <dankest> willwh: How can I use NFS in place of SSHFS?
[21:45] <urlin2u> lilcyber, right it has a restart for compiz, run in the terminal compiz --replace   and see if they reappear
[21:45] <bobweaver> I only have 4 that are thrid party want to see them ?
[21:46] <tabakhase> hi there
[21:46] <lilcyber> Ok, then you will have to excuse me I have to restart.
[21:46] <sprung> I am looking for a way to use Evolution to make a massive exportable calendar list that people using Microsoft Outlook and Apple Mail.App. It's a large amount of the same event, on different days at different times.
[21:46] <bobweaver> tell me if there is something that they could do wrong
[21:46] <urlin2u> lilcyber, go for it.;)
[21:46] <glebihan> bobweaver, I most likely won't be able to tell you
[21:47] <ke1ha> dankest: Unless you really need encrypted data, NFS is simple and pretty well understood in the community.
[21:47] <tabakhase> im having a problem booting the "livestick" on my computer (on notebook works just fine, so the stick itself seems to be okay)
[21:47] <jago25_98> Which package will give me the /lib/modules/3.0.0-8-generic/build directory? (I already have source, headers and kernel installed...)
[21:47] <urlin2u> tabakhase, do you know the post bios boot from menu key prompt.
[21:47] <ke1ha> dankest: Here's some secutiry background for NFS: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/security.html
[21:48] <bobweaver> repos -----> http://paste.ubuntu.com/664544/
[21:48] <dankest> ke1ha: I'm trying to mount the ssh connection using SSHFS
[21:48] <sprung> dankest, you also will find autofs interesting as well, it will only have your NFS volumes mounted when you call on it to be mounted.
[21:48] <ke1ha> dankest: Understand, was giving you an option / possibility over dealing with SSHFS
[21:49] <tabakhase> computer is pciE grafix via HDMI, when loading up livecd he "fails to black" (but the screen is not going off, just "Black" (when turning of pc the screen goes to "no signal", that dosnt happen while boot)
[21:49] <tabakhase> is there now a way to get the bootlog or smth?
[21:50] <dankest> sprung ke1ha Ah, that makes sense.  Thank you.  I'll look in to NFS.
[21:50] <glebihan> bobweaver, the repo for the tor project shouldn't cause any issues, you'll have to check if inundator has packages for natty
[21:50] <urlin2u> tabakhase, if start up with the thumb and tap any key or shift do you get a gui
[21:50] <tabakhase> urlin2u i reach the "run stick" menue, but it fails afterwards
[21:50] <bobweaver> Thanks glebihan
[21:51] <lilcyber> urlin2u, I think I love you =D haha I have the menu bars back, just have to finish letting the command go
[21:51] <glebihan> bobweaver, you're welcome
[21:51] <ke1ha> dankest: Also, look into the suggestion I gaave about using the : ServerAliveInterval = XX config setting.
[21:51] <tabakhase> urlin2u "start up with the thumb"?
[21:51] <urlin2u> lilcyber, compiz and 11.04 are a little bit of trouble, but the dosplex link is a great tool for that, has a kill buuton as well.
[21:51] <urlin2u> button
[21:51] <tabakhase> and when hes black not even strg+alt+f1 gets a reaction
[21:52] <urlin2u> displex
[21:52] <lilcyber> Sweet, urlin2u I know it is so is the file manager.
[21:52] <lilcyber> *browser (nautius
[21:52] <csdserver> in classic mode is there a way to make doubleclicking window tittles shrink to just the title bar?
[21:52] <urlin2u> lilcyber, cool.;)
[21:52] <lilcyber> Haha thanks a bunch ur
[21:52] <dankest> ke1ha: What would you recommend I set that to?
[21:52] <lilcyber> *urlin2u
[21:53] <urlin2u> csdserver, ubuntu tweak has a scroll function for that.
[21:53] <csdserver> thanks urlin2u
[21:53] <glebihan> csdserver, compiz also has an option for that
[21:53] <urlin2u> csdserver, no problem.
[21:53] <ke1ha> dankest: I'd do testing with it, if your disconnecting at x=20, set it to 15 or somethign, test again, etc etc.
[21:53] <tabakhase> no ideas? so im fucked? =(
[21:53] <TheEvilPhoenix> !language | tabakhase
[21:53] <ke1ha> dankest: me personally, I'd go wiht a Hardened NFS setup.
[21:54] <dankest> ke1ha: thanks
[21:54] <urlin2u> tabakhase, you might try the alternative ISO.
[21:54] <csdserver> it would likely be advanced desktop effects settings (ccsm) since i'm using compiz, correct?
[21:54] <dankest> ke1ha: it's a development server, not pro
[21:54] <glebihan> csdserver, that's right
[21:55] <urlin2u> tabakhase, that radeon card probably needs a driver
[21:55] <ke1ha> dankest: Understand, that's the best place to try diff setups, see what you like best and which is eaier for you the admin to deal with.
[21:55] <sprung> What's the best way to make a large complicated calendar invite that can be used in everything from Evolution to Apple Mail.App to Outlook?
[21:55] <tabakhase> urlin2u wtf du you know its a radeon one o.O
[21:55] <sprung> i'm talking about 65 or so events all the same but on different dates at different times
[21:55] <urlin2u> tabakhase, I looked in the web check it out. ;)
[21:55] <tabakhase> and you mean i should try ubuntu-11.04-alternate-amd64.iso instead of the normal?
[21:55] <sprung> key is that it needs to be exportable because my whole team is going to use it
[21:56] <sprung> is there a script i could run from the command line that could read in the dates?
[21:56] <urlin2u> tabakhase, yeah this will or may work, it is for many situations like driver problems.
[21:56] <lilcyber> urlin2u, did they fix the cpu heat problem in the kernel yet?
[21:57] <urlin2u> lilcyber, not sure I am not aware of one myself.
[21:57] <urlin2u> lilcyber, I havew anetbook never overheats.
[21:57] <lilcyber> Oh ok, I heard in kernel 2.6 there was a bug with cpu heat
[21:57] <lilcyber> Oh ok, I see.
[21:57] <tabakhase> urlin2u great, im downloading, pendriving & checking, thanks so far =)
[21:58] <urlin2u> lilcyber, I got a nice fat memory leak but lots of ram.
[21:58] <urlin2u> tabakhase, hope that works. ;)
[21:58] <lilcyber> Really? How did you find that out? Haha I got three gigs
[21:58] <rhcp> hey guys
[21:58] <ke1ha> sprung: I dount you'll find the grand uniufied script to do all of them, but you could pribably write little modules to do them all from a sentral file or something, just need to know the requirments for each app it's being sent too.
[21:58] <rhcp> Got a small question
[21:58] <rhcp> I have grub on /dev/sda on MBR
[21:58] <rhcp> and i have windows 7 on there
[21:58] <rhcp> if i dlete the part using gpartd will i loose grub?
[21:59] <urlin2u> lilcyber, thats the unsubstantiated rumor, my memory is sitting at 648MIB same as my W7 set up when idle more really.
[21:59]  * tabakhase torrenting...
[22:00] <ke1ha> rhcp: which partition are you talking about deleting?
[22:00] <lilcyber> urlin2u, I have the same problem,but for me it is 300-500mb of ram using constantly
[22:00] <rhcp> ke1ha: my windows 7 which is on /dev/sda with bootflag
[22:00] <rhcp> and grub is on /dev/sda in mbr
[22:00] <rhcp> if i delete it. will grub go by bye
[22:00] <ke1ha> rhcp: /dec/sda is the entire device, where /dev/sda1 is a partition on the device /dev/sda
[22:00] <dr_willis> i think that wont touch grub.. but if you are that worried about it. you can set up a spare flash drive to boot the os.. in case of emergancy
[22:00] <rhcp> ke1ha: sorry its on /dev/sda1
[22:00] <rhcp> my bad
[22:00] <urlin2u> rhcp, what is your final goal here?
[22:00] <rhcp> if i kill it?
[22:01] <rhcp> will grub go away? :)
[22:01] <rhcp> Im clearing all my parts
[22:01] <rhcp> for 100% linux
[22:01] <rhcp> i was tri booting
[22:01] <FloodBot1> rhcp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:01] <dr_willis> rhcp,  i think that wont touch grub.. but if you are that worried about it. you can set up a spare flash drive to boot the os.. in case of emergancy
[22:01] <ke1ha> rhcp: That was my next quesiton, what is the final set up you'd like to have, may dictate how best to approach it.
[22:01] <rhcp> what do you think? :)
[22:01] <S4nD3r_> My i915 is not working, is there someone to help me solve this problem??? It's a video card (intel)
[22:01] <rhcp> yea, i want to have one big part with just linux :)
[22:01] <rhcp> and kill off all 5
[22:01] <rhcp> so far i killed off 4
[22:02] <urlin2u> rhcp, what is the one you want to keep?
[22:02] <rhcp> urlin2u: not /dev/sda1 :) whic has windows 7
[22:02] <ke1ha> rhcp: Back up critical data, reinstall and let Ubuntu use the entire disk, fastest & easiest.
[22:02] <rhcp> im just curious if it stores grub on there
[22:02] <urlin2u> rhcp, which linux distro are you keeping?
[22:02] <rhcp> ke1ha: i spent like a month setting up ubuntu :) im not about to nike it
[22:02] <ke1ha> rhcp: You can certainly do all this manually,
[22:03] <rhcp> ke1ha: using grub-install from live?
[22:03] <ke1ha> Yeah, same way you did when installing Grub2, chroot in and install / update grub, but that's not your issue, you gotta combione partitions, and that's tricky :-)
[22:04] <urlin2u> rhcp, you can set the mbr from the kept linux from the terminla on the dektop.
[22:04] <lilcyber> urlin2u, the command isn't done, and I don't want to break it.
[22:04] <schnuffle> rhcp: My advice, use clonezille to backp your Linux partiotions, change the harddisk setup like you want and copy the saved partition into the one created. Then you use a Live USB to reconfigure grub
[22:04] <rhcp> its all good
[22:04] <rhcp> i just want to nuke /dev/sda1 (windows 7)
[22:04] <rhcp> and keep grub
[22:04] <S4nD3r_> My video card is intel, but is running in vesa mode, how change it ?
[22:04] <dr_willis> rhcp,  grub is on the mbr of sda.. not sda1 :)
[22:04] <ke1ha> rhcp: keeping grub is the easy part :-)
[22:04] <rhcp> so im ok?
[22:05] <schnuffle> rhcp: Grub is on the mbr and stores the rest under /boot
[22:05] <rhcp> to nuke it
[22:05] <urlin2u> lilcyber, you have to close it and it should restrt again, that is why I suggest the displex button it restarts without this hassle.
[22:05] <dr_willis> reinstalling grub is alwso fairly easy oncew you learn it
[22:05] <rhcp> i dont have /boot
[22:05] <rhcp> i did one part /
[22:05] <dr_willis> rhcp,  you got a boot dir on your /
[22:05] <rhcp> correct
[22:05] <ke1ha> rhcp: you have boot in your /root then or Ubuntu woun't boot at all :-)
[22:05] <schnuffle> rhcp: but you got /boot on / :)
[22:05] <rhcp> so if i nuke /dev/sda1 and boot
[22:05] <rhcp> ill boot? :)
[22:05] <dr_willis> so you do have a /boot/ :)
[22:06] <yeboot> you could probably simlink whatever you put boot in to /boot
[22:06] <ke1ha> rhcp: it's probably / .. /boot
[22:06] <yeboot> and have a temporary bootlable solution
[22:06] <rhcp> let me screen shot it
[22:06] <rhcp> so you can see
[22:06] <urlin2u> rhcp, windows has no grub control
[22:06] <tabakhase> u btw, ive got another wired thing: on my notebook the screen fades to black on idle, even ehwn connected to AC. wy? and how to change (powersettings say "dont dim" on AC
[22:06] <schnuffle> rhcp: As you will change the harddisk it will look for /boot under the wrong partiotin, that has to be correcetd
[22:06] <yeboot> Does anyone know the program that starts jackd automagically
[22:06] <yeboot> it's like a gui with a big start button, I forgot the program name
[22:07] <rhcp> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/217/screenshot2pk.png/
[22:07] <rhcp> thats the current setup
[22:07] <mahdi> I have Problem with gyachi massenger : this is output in terminal http://pastebin.com/acUCLDiF
[22:08] <ke1ha> imagebin pse
[22:08] <rhcp> note the bootflag on /dev/sda1
[22:08] <lilcyber> urlin2u, what is the name of the program you suggested?
[22:08] <dr_willis> im not even sure grub2 pays attention to the bootflag at all.
[22:08] <joshlegs> hi all. i'm looking for a good ubuntu equivalent of MS Paintbrush. y'all know any?
[22:09] <rhcp> i dont even know if im using grub2 :)
[22:09] <rhcp> ubuntu 11.04 installed it auto
[22:09] <ke1ha> It dont, only WinDoze care about that flag on NTFS
[22:09] <dr_willis> if you are usinjg a recent ubuntu you are.
[22:09] <rhcp> k
[22:09] <rhcp> so i can nuke that part?
[22:09] <S4nD3r_> this is my card http://pastebin.com/mKcec3UG
[22:09] <rhcp> and ill boot?
[22:09] <rhcp> :)
[22:09] <dr_willis> rhcp,  we said yes.. several times.. if you are that worried about it.,  make a bootable flash for a backup.
[22:09] <schnuffle> rhcp: my guess is: no
[22:09] <ke1ha> Your MBR is on /dev/sda  not /dev/sda1  or at least that's how I understand MBR's
[22:09] <quint> so im installing ubuntu server on my 64bit machine, how do i go about installing xfce4 without having to use "xubuntu-desktop"
[22:10] <mahdi> I have Problem with gyachi massenger : this is output in terminal http://pastebin.com/acUCLDiF
[22:10] <mahdi> I have Problem with gyachi massenger : this is output in terminal http://pastebin.com/acUCLDiF
[22:10] <rhcp> can i fix it with livecd?
[22:10] <rhcp> if it dont boot
[22:10] <dr_willis> rhcp,  of course..
[22:10] <rhcp> k
[22:10] <rhcp> let me nook the whore
[22:10] <rhcp> and lets see
[22:10] <rhcp> wish me luck
[22:10] <rhcp> :)
[22:10] <FloodBot1> rhcp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:10] <ke1ha> So if you nuke /dev/sda1 your ridding the system of /WinDoze I think .. plse correct me if Im worng here guys.
[22:10] <dr_willis> or... take a spare flash drive and put grub on it. for a rescue boot
[22:10] <urlin2u> lilcyber, a 3rd party download.  http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/sfnet_displex/releases/
[22:11] <quint> how do i install xfce4 without xubuntu-desktop ?
[22:11] <Zeka13> всем привет!
[22:11] <dr_willis> a hard disk with NO partitions on it at all.. still has a MBR.  :)  unless you totally zero out the hd.
[22:11] <icewaterman> hi, my ubuntu doesnt find the usb mouse in X11
[22:11] <icewaterman> it only detects the touchpad
[22:11] <dr_willis> !info xfce
[22:11] <rhcp> ok guys nuking
[22:11] <schnuffle> !info xfce4
[22:11] <rhcp> wish a brother luck
[22:11] <rhcp> :)
[22:11] <stuffed-crust> is there an irc help channel on this server
[22:11] <rhcp> ill be back worse to worse
[22:12] <FloodBot1> rhcp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:12] <urlin2u> time for starbucks anybody need anything?
[22:12] <dr_willis> xfce4 - Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Desktop Environment
[22:12] <ke1ha> Yeah, what Ubotto said, one is a meta for the other :-)
[22:13] <urlin2u> muffin,espresso shot...etc
[22:13] <ke1ha> Just like Lubuntu-desktop is LXDE
[22:13] <Jordan_U> rhcp: Just make sure that whatever partitioning utility you nuke Windows with doesn't renumber your other partiitons.
[22:14] <ke1ha> lol. that could get ugly basically, DO NOT NUKE /dev/sda2  or anythign above it :-)
[22:14] <urlin2u> lilcyber, going for coffee see you later. ;)
[22:14] <lilcyber> urlin2u, a smoothie lol
[22:14] <quint> so xfce4 is available by default in natty?
[22:14] <urlin2u> no problem my treat
[22:14] <quint> you
[22:14] <dr_willis> quint,  its in the repos.. yes./
[22:15] <ke1ha> quint: Yeah, just install it and select at login.
[22:15] <lilcyber> ok Peace urlin2u
[22:15] <quint> oh thanks, i havent installed it yet is why i ask
[22:15] <quint> peace !
[22:16] <ke1ha> quint: Try the Ubuntu Classic first, you may like that one, works pretty goof on my Dell D400, but LXDE and XFCE4 work allot faster.
[22:17] <Archstanton677> quick question installing 11.04 natty and i have to do it in text mode what should i pick for packages to copy the graphical one
[22:17] <Archstanton677> doing it via netboot
[22:17] <ke1ha> ubuntu-desltop xubuntu-desktop etc etc
[22:17] <DoYouKnow> something is wrong with my cpu speed governor in ubuntu 10.10. Are there any known issues?
[22:18] <ke1ha> whoops ubuntu-desktop .. use the meta packages if available.
[22:18] <schnuffle> Archstanton677: ubuntu-desktop will drag all necessary packages
[22:18] <Archstanton677> ke1ha,  so just ubunut-desktop
[22:18] <DoYouKnow> ?
[22:18] <ke1ha> Yeah, that should work pr xubuntu-desktop for XFCE4 or lubuntu-deaktop for LXDE
[22:18] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, excellent wasnt sure
[22:19] <DoYouKnow> my governor isn't governing, so to speak
[22:19] <ke1ha> I can go look to see what ones are available, but that's the main ones, ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, kde then justy add-desktop to it.
[22:19] <DoYouKnow> it's stuck at a very low clock speed
[22:20] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, no thats perfect wasnt sure if i had to add anything else and also so gone-notebook and stuff
[22:20] <ke1ha> Archstanton677: for low resource boxes, lubuntu and xubuntu .. for normal higher end stuff, kde and ubuntu
[22:20] <Archstanton677> gnome-notebook even
[22:21] <ke1ha> If you pull the desktop meta package, does all the work for ya.
[22:22] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, not sure what that means obviously if i could do the graphical install it would be ok but had one of those days where dvd drive was bust and various other issues
[22:22] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, think i get what your saying if you specify **-desktop your pretty safe
[22:23] <ke1ha> Yep, that's it.
[22:23] <lilcyber> How do I remove all the window managers from ubuntu?
[22:23] <ke1ha> ubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop  lubuntu-desktop etc etc
[22:23] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, its crystal now
[22:24] <coz_> lilcyber,  what will you do withouth a window manager?
[22:24] <ke1ha> cool .. let us know how you end up.
[22:24] <lilcyber> Well all I want is unity, not kubuntu, nor xfce, nore plasma.
[22:24] <lilcyber> *nor
[22:24] <milehigh> does the stock pae kernel limi CONFIG_NR_CPUS to 7?
[22:24] <ke1ha> w/o window manager, sped allot of time in a terminal :-)
[22:24] <coz_> lilcyber,  ah I see .mm  hold on let me check
[22:25] <lilcyber> Ok thanks.
[22:25] <coz_> lilcyber,     http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[22:25] <ke1ha> milehigh: probably best asked in #ubuntu-kernel
[22:25] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, will do nearly there not sure if it asked me this time
[22:25] <coz_> lilcyber,  those are rather long commands in each of those blocks ,, so be sure you copy and paste the whole command into the terminal
[22:26] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, ive been messing with the default file to chuck it straight to text mode
[22:27] <ke1ha> Yeah, I do server installs allot, then add a desktop to them, keeps down on unwanted package bloat.
[22:27] <ke1ha> Then again, it's not as intuitive for other things, so bit of a trade off really.
[22:28] <KadirB> hi all
[22:28] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, this ones funny its a dell inspiron 510m there insnt a windows 7 graphics or wifi driver for it but works beautifully in ubuntu
[22:28] <KadirB> :D
[22:29] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, theres no cdrom drive in it however and my usb cable i stuck in an external drive wasnt working properly
[22:29] <ke1ha> Archstanton677: Well be thankfull, they've done allot of work sorting out Intel GPU's and Broadcomm Nic drivers, only in 11/.04 vcould I do a perfect install on my Dell D400.
[22:29] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, i totally am i think they have done an amazing job
[22:30] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, i remember messing with madwifi drivers and all sorts of nvidia knightmares originally
[22:30] <ke1ha> Ditto, Cudoz, and all the other buzz words, the D400 is my fav laptop :-)
[22:30] <Archstanton677> think that was on 8
[22:31] <ke1ha> Yeah, 8.04 was tricky, but it's all about development so, tings are much better now and Im sure they will continure to get better.
[22:32] <ImHereForShortTi> !resetpanels > ImHereForShortTi
[22:33] <DexterF> S4nD3r: had to go afk, sry
[22:33] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, i love this laptop its got 2 battery packs and an amazing screen res
[22:33] <S4nD3r> ok
[22:33] <S4nD3r> DexterF, ok
[22:34] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, i dont even care that its not fast using it as thin client
[22:34] <DexterF> S4nD3r: in case you haven't wiped the disk yet: you can upgrade from lucid to maverick, then to natty, then to oneirc. not really much fun.
[22:34] <ke1ha> Yeah 5xx series were nice, I link this one cuz it's small, and lasts a good while on batts. Not high res obvioously and only 1.3ghz, but works great.
[22:35] <S4nD3r> DexterF, I will think about which distro to keep or install
[22:35] <S4nD3r> DexterF, thanks anyway
[22:35] <ke1ha> It's a 1.3ghz centrino, wiht 512MB ram, 1030x768 nothign special, but it just works,.
[22:35] <DexterF> S4nD3r: windows 7 works ok with SB ;)
[22:36] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, great stuff. theres something about keeping old kit going think im going to see how little this laptops worth
[22:36] <ke1ha> Acidpunk: As apposed to my workstation, Intel QX9770 @ 4.2 Ghz, 8GB RAM, Quad Nvida Graphics RAID-5 Raptors etc etc :-)
[22:37] <ke1ha> Whoops Was for Archstanton677 not Acidpunk
[22:37] <sindre368> need help, got high cpu usage and poor flash performance. Have tried to turn of Unity and check for prosesses in system monitor with high usage, but no result. tried to google it but couldnt find a good solution
[22:37] <Xenophon> Anyone here using cplay? Player not found issue...
[22:37] <sindre368> has worked fine with the same install on same machine earlier...
[22:37] <DoYouKnow> it seems to be working now. hmmm
[22:38] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, hahaha yeah not exactly a slow machine there
[22:38] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, yeah the laptop im using is worth £100 on ebay
[22:38] <Archstanton677> im actually quite suprised
[22:39] <ke1ha> I've been looking for more D400's but people want allot for them still.
[22:40] <Archstanton677> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-Latitude-D400-12-1-1-6-GHz-Laptop-PC-/180706760274?pt=UK_Computing_Laptops_EH&hash=item2a12f65652#ht_500wt_1156
[22:40] <Archstanton677> thats not bad
[22:40] <ke1ha> i've got a Toshiba Satellite Special Edition + an old Asus A6V I use as well, but this is my daily pounder.
[22:40] <sindre368> ah some one her that can give some help please?:)
[22:41] <dr_willis> sindre368,   sounds liek video drivers perhaps..
[22:41] <ke1ha> sindre368: Disable your flash plugin and see if the cpu usgage is still high, if so, you know the problem, if not, need to track down the culprit.
[22:42] <sindre368> ok... thanks you guys:)
[22:42] <ke1ha> dr_willis: that may be it, didn't Nvidia drivers have that issues not too long ago?
[22:42] <sindre368> not nvidia some intel shit...
[22:43] <ke1ha> Ahh .. Intel is nto the best fer Graphics performance fer sure :-)
[22:43] <ke1ha> CPU, yeah good to go, GPU's not so good :-)
[22:44] <sindre368> i know, just a cheap lenovo lap top so i dont have that high demands, but everything was ok just a week ago... but now its slow ass h...
[22:45] <ke1ha> did this happen after an update perhaps?
[22:45] <sindre368> yeah i think so..
[22:45] <ke1ha> with FF?
[22:45] <randomguy1234> How do I set up Compiz effects and install the drivers in a virtual machine in VMWare?
[22:45] <sindre368> no chrome
[22:45] <dr_willis> randomguy1234,  normally theres some guest addations you install.
[22:45] <ke1ha> Chrome, that's interesting, as it has Flash built in.
[22:46] <sindre368> its the same problem in ff
[22:46] <sindre368> also tried classic - no effects
[22:46] <ke1ha> sounding more like GPU drivers than the plugin
[22:46] <sindre368> ok...
[22:46] <randomguy1234> dr_willis: I did that already, but none of the effects are showing up.
[22:46] <ke1ha> sindre368: but Im not a graphics guru at all really.
[22:46] <armando> now i installed irssi and am in how do i specify server??
[22:47] <sindre368> hehe.. me neither:)
[22:47] <pooltable> help installed mplayer 2???
[22:48] <dr_willis> randomguy1234,  i dont use vmware.. i do know unity is supposed to work in the latest vbox.
[22:48] <korst3n> hey, i have an ubuntu box that i don't know the root password of. i tried holding the shift key during the boot without success. how do i enter single user mode?
[22:48] <dr_willis> armando,  you may want to check the irssi homepage/docs  - it will take a little bit of reading/learning to use it properly. I perfer weechat over irssi these days. for a console/text based irc client.
[22:49] <aaas> is there a dev i can cat to test a midi port?
[22:49] <aaas> on 11.04
[22:49] <cheshirelad31> hello all
[22:49] <armando> ty dr.
[22:50] <sindre368> one question: in system monitor in the colum called nice, it says -11 for pulse audio... ???
[22:50] <escott> !help | pooltable
[22:50] <randomguy1234> dr_willis: I'll just use VMWare's Easy Install option. thnx, anyway.
[22:50] <ke1ha> aaas: in terminal: aplaymidi -l
[22:51] <aaas> sindre368: what's your question?  did you mess around with nice
[22:51] <escott> aaas, few soundcards have hardware midi these days, but if yours does it would be /dev/snd/midi or the like
[22:51] <ke1ha> that should list the K-modules if they are installed, if not, gonna take more work.
[22:51] <aaas> ke1ha: two ports but can i test actual input somehow?
[22:52] <escott> sindre368, it runs at a higher priority to keep the sound from skipping
[22:52] <aaas> escott: and if i dont have that, it's a bad sign (yes mine has professional midi input)
[22:52] <sindre368> escott: thanks...
[22:52] <ke1ha> aaas: Ahh, have to look that one up . not sure abt testing input/output
[22:53] <aaas> ah i have /dev/snd/midiC1D0
[22:53] <escott> aaas, i would check the alsa website
[22:53] <aaas> but if I cat it and play my keyboard, nothing happens...i should get garbage on the screen right?
[22:53] <ke1ha> aaas: Have a look here, there's a few diff test setups: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Midi/HardwareSynthesisSetup
[22:53] <escott> aaas, it may not be input. it could be output
[22:55] <ke1ha> :-) I guess what goes in, must come out is not the same as what goes up much come down :-)
[22:59] <tabakhase> what ever the heck ive done, seems like he stoped fading to black on AC =)
[23:02] <ke1ha> rhcp: Hey, how did the Nuke /dev/sda1 go, things still working?
[23:03] <tase> How would I make Linux (Ubuntu/Debian) run a command during boot (before login), like "echo $TIME >> somefile" or "someapp 192.168.1.1" ?
[23:04] <escott> tase, /etc/rc.local
[23:06] <ke1ha> yep that's the easy way fer sure.
[23:06] <tase> escott, will it execute once on boot ?
[23:06] <ke1ha> What are you after, the time the system boots / reboots ?
[23:06] <tase> or on user login
[23:07] <tase> yea each time the system boots, it's to connect synergy, a keyboard/mouse sharing application
[23:07] <tase> i would like for it to start on boot, so i can use the remote keyboard/mouse to login
[23:07] <jdrl> what about making a cron job?
[23:08] <ke1ha> make it an upstart job then it will presist.
[23:10] <tase> i tried making upstart stuff, didn't work, documentation was crap
[23:10] <tase> about ubuntu 6.10
[23:10] <tase> maybe my google query is no good
[23:11] <ke1ha> tase: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[23:11] <ke1ha> Is that what you looked at?
[23:12] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, thanks that install worked a treat. pxe using tftpd really quite easy
[23:12] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, just selected ubuntu-desktop
[23:12] <ke1ha> Archstanton677: Cool glad is working. I use / the tftpd on the Edubuntu Distro's, jsut to test releases and thigns for schools.
[23:13] <ke1ha> Archstanton677: It can take a while to download things, but generally works out best to use the meta packages like that.
[23:13] <froq> anyone here use Eclipse sdk?
[23:13] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, spot on im well happy i can sleep now
[23:14] <ke1ha> LOL that's a good thing :-)
[23:14] <Archstanton677> ke1ha, thanks for your help
[23:14] <froq> okay, I am using eclipse SDK and I want to use the G++ compiler, but that is not a option in the toolchain.
[23:14] <tabakhase> cool, using alternate i cant even select a option in the first splash (exept "advanced->recover")?..
[23:15] <ke1ha> froq: G++ or C++?
[23:15] <froq> kelha well the c++ compiler is g++ when you run it in terminal
[23:16] <ke1ha> froq: I set one of the up for my other half, she does Android Apps, and Im sure she wanted C++ too .. looking through my notes.
[23:17] <aaas> anyone have any great ideas on how to manage the dual boot of a headless sytem?
[23:17] <froq> ke1ha, yeah, well I just need to compiler C++ programs, so a C++ compiler I suppose
[23:18] <ke1ha> froq: Here's one of the SDK How-=Toos I use / Bookmarked: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[23:19] <ke1ha> sri: http://www.howtoforge.com/setting-up-an-android-app-build-environment-with-eclipse-android-sdk-phonegap-ubuntu-10.10
[23:19] <froq> ke1ha, haha, you got us confused :)  thanks
[23:19] <rhcp> hey
[23:20] <ke1ha> froq: and this was the other: http://onthefencedevelopment.com/?p=455
[23:20] <rhcp> didnt want to leave you guys with a broken isue. it did boot fine :) and im re-growing the part
[23:20] <rhcp> thx
[23:20] <rhcp> :)
[23:20] <ke1ha> Yeah, sorry about that first one, Ctrl+C didn't copy too well :-)
[23:21] <froq> ke1ha, no worry dude!!!!  thanks!
[23:22] <Frekk> Hi. Trying to get the wireless network to work on Ubuntu 11.04 on an Asus Eee 901. I get this build error when installing the driver (RT2860) - http://pastebin.com/fygbk7U7
[23:22] <Frekk> Help would be much appreciated!
[23:23] <shinsuke> hi. i want to create a container by console and the option --filesystem=ext3. but when i mount i get the error: wrong fs. need help. thanks
[23:24] <Frekk> note: the log is from using somthing called 'module assistant' (a guide I found when googling). I get the same error when doing the manual terminal work (make and install), though
[23:24] <aaas> Frekk: are you using a cvs/svn version?
[23:24] <Llynix> I've got a problem with an ext4 file system getting continuously corrupted.  Problem is described in this forum thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11146069#post11146069
[23:25] <tase> Hm, this upstart thing doesn't want to detect my job file (job.conf) in /etc/init/ , initctl list doesnt report it, is a restart needed ?
[23:25] <Frekk> aaas: no, the driver is downloaded from Ralink's website directly
[23:26] <Frekk> aaas: (either a .deb-file or an archive - ownloaded over http)
[23:26] <aaas> Frekk: well i think it's one of two things: a fault of their programing, your setup, you missing a package
[23:26] <aaas> Frekk: the deb didnt' work?
[23:26] <Frekk> aaas: sorry, the .deb was from debian's site
[23:27] <aaas> Frekk: i see.  what crazy is that this didn't work stock ..the 901 has been out for a while
[23:27] <Frekk> that was the last thing i tried, but im positive i got the same errors when trying with the archives from ralinks website
[23:27] <skegeek> I know this isn't really the right channel, but does anyone know if VHCS plays nicely with external DNS and MAIL?
[23:27] <aaas> Frekk: you are running 11.04?
[23:27] <Frekk> aaas: yep, just upgraded. SAME error on 10.04 .....
[23:28] <aaas> Frekk: was it a clean install?
[23:28] <Frekk> yup
[23:28] <Frekk> also, my setup is identical to numerous forum post I've found arount the internets
[23:28] <aaas> Frekk: ah ok
[23:28] <Frekk> I'm open for a missing package or anything similar, tough
[23:29] <aaas> Frekk: did you try auto-apt?
[23:29] <Frekk> not very experienced linux-user either
[23:29] <aaas> Frekk: does it have a ./configure script?
[23:29] <TheLifelessOne1> Hi, can anyone tell me how to activate my second monitor?
[23:29] <Frekk> aaas: no ./configure
[23:29] <aaas> Frekk: what was it?
[23:29] <TheLifelessOne1> I can't seem to get it to work.
[23:29] <aaas> Frekk: you're compling from source without ./configure?
[23:30] <Frekk> aaas: ehm, yes as far as I can tell :P make and install is pretty much it
[23:30] <ke1ha> where's the instruciton your using again Frekk   ?
[23:31] <aaas> Frekk: i suppose it's possible for a driver i guess
[23:31] <Frekk> ke1ha: one second, let me find it. I've tried stuff from multiple sources, but they're quite similar I guess
[23:31] <ke1ha> LOL I know how that is fer sure.
[23:32] <aaas> Frekk: so you had it working on 10.10?
[23:32] <ke1ha> skegeek: Old thread but looks like it does according to: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25722
[23:33] <Frekk> instructions which I'm sure reprouduces my error: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1476007
[23:33] <rcconf> hello
[23:34] <Frekk> aaas: yep (10.04), but at some point I'm not sure, it stopped working
[23:34] <Frekk> I found my old laptop again today, and started working on it
[23:34] <rcconf> I can connect to a VPN using nm-applet but I cannot ping. I use sudo openvpn some.conf it works
[23:34] <rcconf> why is nm-applet buggy with VPN using UDP protocol
[23:34] <Frekk> iwconfig only outputs lo and eth0 (I miss my wlan0!!!)
[23:34] <Frekk> so I figured it was best to update to natty anyways, but same problem
[23:34] <aaas> Frekk: did you try the blacklist method they are talking about
[23:34] <Frekk> but I'm certain it has worked in 10.04 at one point
[23:35] <aaas> (different thread)
[23:35] <Frekk> aaas: no, that's the only thing I've come over I havent tried
[23:35] <ke1ha> rcconf: Why is it buggy, that's going to be hard for anyone here to answer.
[23:35] <bjpenn> how do i make fetchmail start up as a daemon everytime i boot up the server?
[23:35] <Frekk> but can I blacklist it if it's not even installed? (as far as I can tell, the driver is not even installing right?)
[23:35] <aaas> Frekk: what if you do 'modprobe rt2x00'
[23:35] <rcconf> ke1ha: it works with openvpn
[23:36] <ke1ha> Frekk: That's what I was gonna ask as well, what modules are blacklisted, especially after an upgrade.
[23:36] <rcconf> but not with nm-applet.
[23:36] <aaas> Frekk: is that chipset not supported
[23:36] <rcconf> ke1ha: i think it only gets buggy with UDP protocol
[23:36] <riddler> how do I access an encrypted bitlocker partition, is there a driver or linux software?
[23:36] <ke1ha> rcconf: You may be right, you may want to go to launchpad and wite it up as a bug.
[23:36] <Wipster> blip
[23:37] <Frekk> aaas: FATAL: Module rt2x00 not found.
[23:37] <ke1ha> somehow it's not doing the make & make install of the module correctly.
[23:37] <aaas> Frekk: and 'lsmod | grep rt' (you might need to paste it elsewhere)
[23:37] <ke1ha> or the modprobe is not doing it's job correctly.
[23:38] <aaas> Frekk: well is there any 'rt' drivers i guess is what im curious about
[23:39] <Frekk> aaas: http://pastebin.com/5HTUNwQS
[23:39] <Frekk> now it is! Wasn't tere earlier
[23:39] <Frekk> *there
[23:39] <dave> hello all
[23:39] <Frekk> after fresh install, I just got the two last lines
[23:39] <aaas> Frekk: but ifconfig -a still has no wlan?
[23:40] <TYDIRocks> Hello I have a quick question, to get a higher screen resolution than 1024x768 do I need to install drivers?
[23:40] <Frekk> aaas: also correct (unfortunately)
[23:40] <Frekk> aaas: just lo and eth0 as always
[23:41] <aaas> Frekk: open another terminal and run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' then try 'sudo rmmod rt2860sta' followed by 'sudo modprobe rt2860sta'
[23:41] <aaas> Frekk: then post the output
[23:41] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Normally, no, but depends on your graphics setup.
[23:41] <Frekk> aaas: will do, thanks for your help so far :)
[23:41] <aaas> Frekk: np
[23:42] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, hey again :P But how do I get it higher then what is allowed in the preferences?
[23:42] <apo__> #francophone
[23:42] <ke1ha> This in your Virtual Box setup?
[23:42] <TYDIRocks> Yes
[23:43] <ke1ha> Check you setting on the Virtualbox first, enable 2d/3d and allow for Vidio RAM etc etc.
[23:44] <ke1ha> If your Main Box has Low end Graphics, you can do much about that.
[23:44] <TYDIRocks> well I have a radeon HD 6950 :P
[23:44] <ke1ha> Well that's not an issue then :-)
[23:44] <ke1ha> Check the Vbox settings first.
[23:45] <NbIrc> Hello, where in the irc world may I ask thunderbird setup questions? thnx
[23:45] <ASK|Lag|T3B> does anybody know how to remove  password from rar? Using 10.04 BTW
[23:45] <ke1ha> then, it after that, it may be an issues of enabling restricted drivers within Ubuntu, but I use Nvidia, not ATI so will need to ask the ATI guru's on that one.
[23:45] <Frekk> aaas: http://pastebin.com/gcHwF9TV ( ke1ha )
[23:46] <TYDIRocks> ke1ha, should I increase the video memory, enable 3D acceleration and enabled 2D video acceleration?
[23:46] <mrudang> ASK|Lag|T3B, unless it's your rar file I'm not sure of any way except for knowing the password
[23:46] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Yes, that's what I'd do first.
[23:46] <tabakhase> unable to boot by usb whatever im doing... desktop same as alternate... also text / init=/sbin/init --debug give annything more than "black screen"
[23:46] <tabakhase> im not even sure if system not starting, or just me not seeing..
[23:47] <ke1ha> Frekk: That's vert odd that it modprobes, then it can't find the module.
[23:47] <TYDIRocks> it says "On the Display page, you have 2D Video acceleration enabled. As 2D video acceleration is supported for Windows guests only, this feature will be disabled.
[23:47] <aaas> Frekk: well that wasnt that fruitful because it didnt remove the module
[23:47] <aaas> Frekk: try modprobe -r rt2860sta
[23:47] <aaas> frekk: (i think that's it)
[23:47] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Enable 3D and increase the GPU memopry a bit.
[23:48] <TYDIRocks> do you think 60 mb is enough?
[23:48] <Frekk> aaas: no output, no wireless :/
[23:48] <ke1ha> No, 128 / 256 / 512 somethign like that.
[23:49] <aaas> Frekk: rrrr..there should be a way to remove that module I just dont remember how
[23:49] <aaas> Frekk: one sec
[23:50] <Frekk> aaas: of course :)
[23:51] <TYDIRocks> umm...I got an error
[23:51] <TYDIRocks> wait nvm
[23:51] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: ok :-)
[23:51] <TYDIRocks> fuck
[23:51] <ke1ha> Frekk: that should ahve worked sudo modprobe -r rt28*
[23:51] <TYDIRocks> It's asking my to install?!
[23:51] <llvllatrix> Hi all. Off topic, but I figured this would be a good place to ask. I'm currently trying to develop a career plan, and was wondering; what sorts of experiences have you all had? What kind of advice would you give?
[23:51] <bazhang> TYDIRocks, no cursing here
[23:51] <TYDIRocks> sorry
[23:51] <TYDIRocks> :|
[23:52] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: sorry what's it askign you to install ?
[23:52] <TYDIRocks> Ubuntu
[23:52] <Frekk> ke1ha: FATAL: Module rt2860_source_1.8.0.0_3_all.deb not found.
[23:52] <TYDIRocks> It's asking me to either try it or install it
[23:52] <Frekk> ke1ha: that was the .deb I downloaded from debian.org ( aaas )
[23:52] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: That's becsue you still have the ISO CD in the drive.
[23:53] <aaas> Frekk: try sudo depmod -a
[23:53] <aaas> Frekk: what does it say
[23:53] <TYDIRocks> Oh
[23:53] <thunsucker> llvllatrix: awww those career plans, work hard, research a lot, and drink often
[23:53] <TYDIRocks> How do I remove it?
[23:53] <scott__> how do i mount a specific folder from my windowws ntfs partition into ubuntu; ie mapping documents into windows documents folder, downloads to downloads, etc
[23:53] <TYDIRocks> Uncheck it and restart./
[23:53] <TYDIRocks> ?
[23:53] <hack27> i need a lil help,and wat would like to know the root of the problem
[23:53] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Remove the CD or change the Boot Order in Virtualbox on the UBuntu Virtual machine.
[23:53] <Frekk> aaas: it thought for a few secs, then said .... nothing :(
[23:53] <hack27> my monitor says "no signal"
[23:53] <aaas> Frekk: ok now try rmmod
[23:54] <thunsucker> llvllatrix: check private message
[23:54] <hack27> so i switch power supply and nothing,swicth ram and nothing
[23:54] <Frekk> aaas: sudo rmmod 2860sta, aye?
[23:54] <aaas> Frekk: yes also try modprobe to see if anything different happens
[23:54] <hack27> is not the battery
[23:55] <thunsucker> hack27: you haven't even said whats wrong with the box
[23:55] <hack27> could be the motherboard is failing? since the pc was purchase refurbish
[23:55] <schnuffle> hack27: do you get a beep when you switch it on?
[23:55] <NbIrc> For Thunderbird setup info I tried unsuccessfully to connect to irc.mozilla.org, but maybe the NEW B is doing it wrong. Help?
[23:55] <hack27> beep
[23:55] <hack27> no
[23:55] <TYDIRocks> Okay I don't see anything different in the monitor preferences
[23:56] <Frekk> aaas: 1. I got the rt2860 does not exist in /proc/modules (same as the pastebin from earlier). 2. which of the modprobe's? :P
[23:56] <DrArcheh> any clue why my reiserfs filesystem would have a limit of 1000000 inodes?
[23:56] <schnuffle> hack27: normally after initializing you get a short beep to signal everything is okay. Of course the beeper has to be present
[23:56] <scott__> nope
[23:56] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: Ok, where did you go to set them System >> Admin or >> Prefrendces?
[23:56] <hack27> i disconnected all the wires and put it back on and now is on and running
[23:56] <scott__> i dont use reiserfs anyway though
[23:56] <TYDIRocks> System>Preferences
[23:56] <aaas> Frekk: 'sudo modprobe rt2860'
[23:57] <hack27> sometimes this happend when i put the pc to sleep or hibernate
[23:57] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: You may need to enable a Restricted Driver, but on that part, especially qwith ATI, Im not the guru for that one.
[23:57] <TYDIRocks> hmm ok
[23:57] <tabakhase> interessting... also when booting windows it fails to "same black screen" =(
[23:57] <stuffed-crust> ok guru's, how do i compress 403gb to 120gb!
[23:57] <Frekk> aaas: no output
[23:58] <ke1ha> TYDIRocks: If your not seeing any options for a res greater than 1024x768 .. changes are your in Low Graphics mode, but Im not 100% certain.
[23:58] <aaas> Frekk: what version of the driver are you using?
[23:58] <Frekk> aaas: not the sudo modprobe -r rt2860, either if that matters
[23:58] <scott__> try b archiver
[23:58] <Frekk> aaas: 2.4.0.0
[23:58] <ke1ha> stuffed-crust: depends, if it's mostly Binary files, your not gonna make it.
[23:59] <aaas> Frekk: hold on let me try it on my system real fast...the compile
[23:59] <Frekk> aaas: well, hang on. I'm not sure about the details of the .deb (which I think is the one that is installed on the system)
[23:59] <stuffed-crust> kelha : not sure what you mean by binary
[23:59] <ke1ha> stuffed-crust: However, if its mostly test based Files, use max compression, and you stand a good chance.
[23:59] <ke1ha> whoops, text base .. .. ..
[23:59] <stuffed-crust> kelsin: ahh yeah its binary
[23:59] <Frekk> aaas: .deb is from here - http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/r/rt2860-source/rt2860-source_1.8.0.0-3_all.deb
[23:59] <TYDIRocks> How do I change from low gfx mode?