| GridCube | charlie-tca, i think i have 6 of the top 10 now :) | 00:08 |
|---|---|---|
| charlie-tca | gaining fast then! Glad to hear there is progress | 00:09 |
| micahg | I finally got normal notifications back, somehow the type of notification got set to something crazy | 00:11 |
| * micahg is guessing he's going to have to see libindicate-gtk2 now | 00:12 | |
| micahg | *seed | 00:13 |
| GridCube | i particulary like number six: Q: Can I edit the Start Menu? A: nope. | 00:16 |
| charlie-tca | Let's give ochosi time to get back, and mr_pouit. | 00:16 |
| micahg | huh? I thought we shipped something to do that | 00:16 |
| knome | GridCube, "A: You can use a menu editor of your choice to do that, for example Alacarte." | 00:17 |
| GridCube | what is alacarte? | 00:17 |
| GridCube | and how you install it? | 00:17 |
| charlie-tca | GridCube: your A: is wrong | 00:18 |
| knome | alacarte is a menu editing application | 00:18 |
| knome | sudo apt-get install alacarte | 00:18 |
| charlie-tca | For Xfce 4.8, 'sudo apt-get install alacarte --no-install-recommends' in a terminal will let you use an editor to change the menus. | 00:18 |
| micahg | yes, but it'll pull in the gnome stack | 00:18 |
| micahg | right | 00:18 |
| charlie-tca | without the --no-install-recommends, it will pull in too much | 00:19 |
| knome | right, i've disabled installing the recommended packages altogether | 00:19 |
| knome | ;) | 00:19 |
| charlie-tca | GridCube: that is valid for both 11.04 and 11.10 | 00:19 |
| GridCube | and for 10.04 as i just tested it | 00:19 |
| GridCube | well, at least the sudo apt-get part, but it wants me to download 160MB thats a bit too much | 00:20 |
| GridCube | and pretty ridicule for just editing a menu | 00:20 |
| knome | alacarte won't edit the xubuntu menu prior to 11.04 | 00:21 |
| GridCube | oh then its useless | 00:21 |
| charlie-tca | you still running 10.04? | 00:21 |
| GridCube | also the no-install-recommends avoided the 160b | 00:22 |
| GridCube | mb | 00:22 |
| GridCube | yes | 00:22 |
| GridCube | i use 10.04 | 00:22 |
| charlie-tca | GridCube: For Xfce 4.8, 'sudo apt-get install alacarte --no-install-recommends' in a terminal will let you use an editor to change the menus. | 00:22 |
| charlie-tca | GridCube: that would be 11.04 and higher | 00:22 |
| GridCube | copy pasted it | 00:22 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #xubuntu-devel to: Xubuntu Development | Oneiric Ocelot Feature Freeze in effect | #xubuntu for support | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu | Xubuntu Community meeting 2011-08-14 at 22:00 UTC | Oneiric images at http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/ | ||
| charlie-tca | micahg: bug 824299 closed as fixed again | 13:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 824299 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm should offer the alternative virtual greeter package" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824299 | 13:15 |
| charlie-tca | We have desktop images, but my zsync started at 58% complete today. Going to be a while to get them here. | 13:22 |
| charlie-tca | micahg_: Is there a way for us to get this fix for ristretto pulled and put into to both 11.04 and 11.10? | 13:43 |
| charlie-tca | https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7882 | 13:43 |
| ubottu | bugzilla.xfce.org bug 7882 in General "Memory leak when navigating through a set of images" [Major,Assigned: ] | 13:43 |
| charlie-tca | Probably have to wait for it to hit Debian? | 13:44 |
| charlie-tca | Seems like a good thing to get, though | 13:44 |
| astraljava | I was at 59.4% | 13:50 |
| charlie-tca | oh, 386? | 13:51 |
| charlie-tca | I need to know if lightdm changed at all for us. | 13:51 |
| charlie-tca | and whether or not we can actually login today | 13:52 |
| charlie-tca | and the good news is... I need to update and reinstall vbox, again | 13:52 |
| charlie-tca | Release team meeting in about 1 hour, won't have results since I don't have the full images yet | 13:56 |
| charlie-tca | Okay, I asked this on the bug report, but will ask again. Is it possible to pin the gnome-system-tools package from 11.04 to 11.10 so users-admin does not require mixed gtk2 and gtk3? | 14:15 |
| charlie-tca | bug 789333 | 14:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 789333 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "users-admin crashes on start because of mixed GTK2 and 3 symbols" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/789333 | 14:15 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: Yeah, i386, cause I intend to test on real hw, and it's 32-bit only. | 14:42 |
| charlie-tca | I have the advantage then. I have both machines | 14:42 |
| charlie-tca | I just have this painfully slow internet | 14:43 |
| astraljava | I do have a laptop and a desktop for amd64 usage, but those are for different purposes. But I should just add a few more disks for the desktop, so I could install more. | 14:43 |
| astraljava | Did you mean g-system-tools as for the image or just locally, for yourself? | 14:44 |
| micahg_ | charlie-tca: oneiric, sure, natty, if there's a test case | 14:44 |
| === micahg_ is now known as micahg | ||
| charlie-tca | I mean gnome-system-tools as in System -> Users and Groups | 14:47 |
| charlie-tca | You can not add a user | 14:47 |
| charlie-tca | which, if we are really going to provide the interface for users, needs to work | 14:47 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: I will have to find the natty bug | 14:47 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: users-admin needs to be gtk3 | 14:48 |
| charlie-tca | why? | 14:48 |
| micahg | to work with the rest of gnome | 14:48 |
| charlie-tca | According to the bug report, it is up to those planning to use it to make it work | 14:48 |
| astraljava | So what components bring GNOME3 libs in at this moment? | 14:49 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: so, are we going to have to add tons of gnome3 to get that working for us now? | 14:49 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: oops, you're right | 14:49 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: the problem is the libs it needs are now GNOME3 libs | 14:49 |
| charlie-tca | If we have to fix it, can't we just use the natty package? | 14:50 |
| micahg | it's still a gnome2 app | 14:50 |
| charlie-tca | it worked | 14:50 |
| micahg | that's what's in oneiric :) | 14:50 |
| charlie-tca | oh | 14:50 |
| charlie-tca | I knew my thinking was faulty again | 14:50 |
| * astraljava is just soooo confused now | 14:50 | |
| charlie-tca | astraljava: next install, try adding a new user or group | 14:51 |
| * micahg will have to chat with gilir about this | 14:51 | |
| charlie-tca | Okay, I would like it working for beta1 | 14:51 |
| charlie-tca | Is that possible? | 14:51 |
| charlie-tca | or at least we can project that? | 14:52 |
| charlie-tca | might be beta2, but milestones are movable | 14:52 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: well, let | 15:09 |
| micahg | s see what deps are needed, we could always look for a different tool as well | 15:09 |
| charlie-tca | I agree | 15:10 |
| micahg | but Lubuntu is in the same boat which is a plus for us :) | 15:26 |
| charlie-tca | and mythbuntu too | 15:27 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: good news is unity-greeter won't be pulled in anymore :) | 15:41 |
| astraljava | Yay! | 15:41 |
| charlie-tca | yay! | 15:42 |
| micahg | so, we have dailies back and i386 is almost oversized... | 15:43 |
| charlie-tca | almost is okay | 15:44 |
| charlie-tca | we can look at what is not needed again, since they always have ways of adding to us | 15:45 |
| micahg | well, I'm guessing it was another incomplete library transition or 2 | 15:46 |
| charlie-tca | something else unity decided we need? | 15:46 |
| * astraljava can't seem to get the desktop i386 installing in virtualbox | 15:47 | |
| charlie-tca | oh-oh | 15:47 |
| micahg | ah, we inherited colord support :) | 15:47 |
| charlie-tca | anything in particular yet? | 15:47 |
| charlie-tca | see, micahg. I knew they 'helped' us again | 15:48 |
| micahg | well, that's actually a good thing in this case, but it does take space :) | 15:48 |
| charlie-tca | hm, how much of kde did we get? | 15:49 |
| charlie-tca | I will look at this stuff after the meeting | 15:50 |
| charlie-tca | astraljava: how far into the install? | 15:50 |
| astraljava | Wait, something's not right. The desktop image doesn't have the "Try Xubuntu without <whatever>". What gives? | 15:50 |
| charlie-tca | ubiquity got changed again | 15:50 |
| charlie-tca | file a bug for it | 15:51 |
| astraljava | Well it seems to have been a glitch with virtualbox, cause resetting it makes it progress, actually. *phew* | 15:51 |
| astraljava | IPv6 autoconfiguration?! REALLY?! | 15:52 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: kde? shouldn't be any, colord is a system service that makes it easy to manage, install and generate | 15:52 |
| micahg | colour profiles to accurately colour manage input and output devices. | 15:52 |
| charlie-tca | I know that. But that doesn't mean it doesn't happen | 15:52 |
| micahg | heh, well upgrades are broke for me ATM due to a mono issue which I probably won't be able to debug until sunday | 15:53 |
| charlie-tca | heh, well, at least you know how to do it. ;) | 15:53 |
| astraljava | micahg: Bug #? | 15:54 |
| micahg | astraljava: for what? | 15:54 |
| astraljava | The mono issue? | 15:54 |
| micahg | oh, haven't filed one yet due to apport thinking it's reported this before :) | 15:54 |
| astraljava | Oh okay. | 15:54 |
| astraljava | :) | 15:54 |
| micahg | retracers are broke anyways due to the apt transition | 15:55 |
| astraljava | Damn. | 15:55 |
| charlie-tca | oh, my | 15:56 |
| micahg | astraljava: bug 824858 | 16:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 824858 in mono (Ubuntu) "package libmono-webbrowser4.0-cil (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/mono/4.0/Mono.WebBrowser.dll', which is also in package libmono-webbrowser0.5-cil 2.10.1-4ubuntu1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/824858 | 16:09 |
| GridCube | thats a nice bug name | 16:10 |
| micahg | doesn't affect xubuntu since we don't ship banshee | 16:10 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: dh_python2 and libssl1.0.0 transitions needed for xubuntu still, will request FFes for dh_python2 stuff | 16:12 |
| charlie-tca | Okay | 16:14 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: sorry, should've told you that earlier :) | 16:15 |
| charlie-tca | No problem. I discussed it last week with skaet and explained that we won't know much in advance what we need. | 16:15 |
| astraljava | micahg: Thanks! | 16:37 |
| charlie-tca | Okay, burning images to start testing | 16:37 |
| astraljava | whee! /me just got the IPTV box and the modem for the broadband. Come Monday evening, I'll be (sort of) happy again. | 16:38 |
| astraljava | Really? Supposed to look like this? http://astraljava.kapsi.fi/Xubuntu-desktop-lightdm-greeter_20110812.png | 16:42 |
| knome | astraljava, why monday evening? | 16:45 |
| knome | astraljava, that's the default unity-theme, without wallpaper | 16:45 |
| astraljava | knome: Cause that's when they'll install the service. | 16:46 |
| astraljava | knome: Gah!!! | 16:46 |
| knome | aha | 16:46 |
| madnick | I feel like a really naggy person :( but knome have you thought about the themes? :) I'm just kinda eager to get going with these stuff, since it will take quite some time to write it :P | 16:51 |
| charlie-tca | newest thing in login themes! | 16:51 |
| charlie-tca | Think it is all shook out now, madnick. | 16:51 |
| madnick | okay | 16:53 |
| madnick | So Ill fetch todays image :) | 16:53 |
| charlie-tca | not sure yet, but will know later today/this weekend. | 16:54 |
| charlie-tca | I will be testing all images before monday, to see what happens | 16:55 |
| charlie-tca | sync is almost finished, only another hour or so | 16:59 |
| astraljava | Okay, so now it's the second Xubuntu session that needs to be selected to get into our shit. | 17:04 |
| charlie-tca | well, depends on which session really works. it changes | 17:04 |
| astraljava | Gotta figure out during the weekend why we have 2 at the first place. | 17:04 |
| astraljava | Oh really? | 17:04 |
| astraljava | Damn. | 17:04 |
| charlie-tca | We have two because lightdm is not really fixed for us | 17:05 |
| astraljava | So we know why, exactly? | 17:05 |
| charlie-tca | because we use a symlink like it was suggested on bug 799754 , comment #13 | 17:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 799754 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Please let vendors easily provide their own config" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/799754 | 17:06 |
| charlie-tca | and that causes two sessions to appear | 17:06 |
| charlie-tca | and mr_pouit has probably gone close to bald now trying to fix that and get some cooperation from Ubuntu for it. | 17:07 |
| charlie-tca | because the best response we get is "it should work" | 17:08 |
| charlie-tca | so, I guess, any help you can give would be appreciated! | 17:09 |
| charlie-tca | We seem to be the ones pushing to get it right, so that all derivatives can use lightdm | 17:09 |
| charlie-tca | astraljava: if it helps any, most of the other flavours are cheering for us :) | 17:11 |
| astraljava | Oh alright. :) I'll have a look, I guess, but then I don't expect to get anywhere without talking to mr_pouit first. | 17:14 |
| astraljava | Okay, well things seemed to work in vbox, outside the hidden bar at the bottom of the screen, so I'll do proper testing on the actual hw tomorrow/Sunday. | 17:16 |
| charlie-tca | Great! If you do decide to investigate lightdm, maybe that bug provides a starting point? | 17:17 |
| charlie-tca | Robert Ancell might be back next week, I don't know for sure. he gets a week on holiday after the summit | 17:18 |
| astraljava | Sure, but I just think it's pointless to redo the same false fixes that mr_pouit has already done. :) | 17:18 |
| charlie-tca | I agree. Hoping he is back too next week | 17:19 |
| astraljava | Lionel is mr_pouit ?! I never knew! :D | 17:34 |
| charlie-tca | yes, he is :) | 17:43 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: I think just adding our own background to the lightdm screen could work | 18:04 |
| charlie-tca | although I question the gear to the right of the user name | 18:05 |
| charlie-tca | It's not very intuitive as to who is logging in | 18:06 |
| charlie-tca | apparently, I didn't pick the right session, either | 18:07 |
| astraljava | But now it shouldn't matter anymore, I was able to just log out and choose the correct one without penalties. | 18:07 |
| charlie-tca | astraljava: where did you pick a session from? | 18:07 |
| charlie-tca | this login screen doesn't have sessions | 18:08 |
| astraljava | I think it was the gear that you mentioned, but I might forget already. | 18:08 |
| charlie-tca | Yup, that really is not good for the user | 18:08 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: I really prefer we use Sessions: | 18:09 |
| charlie-tca | to indicate such | 18:09 |
| charlie-tca | that icon is anything but usable without being told to try clicking it | 18:09 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: using the wallpaper on top of the lightdm greeter? | 18:10 |
| madnick | unity* | 18:10 |
| charlie-tca | yes, with some changes, I guess, since that gear is not really usable to say "choose session here" | 18:13 |
| charlie-tca | That really sucks | 18:13 |
| charlie-tca | We still do not have a decent way to tell the user "choose the right session at login" | 18:14 |
| charlie-tca | it still takes 12 steps to reset the session if the wrong session is logged into | 18:14 |
| madnick | okay | 18:15 |
| madnick | so adding a session list | 18:17 |
| madnick | In the panel? Or in the main UI? | 18:17 |
| charlie-tca | in the lightdm screen | 18:17 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: Really? I just restarted lightdm, and when the greeter came up again, I chose the correct one. Oh! Is that why I didn't see the hidden bar when brought the mouse cursor at the bottom? | 18:17 |
| charlie-tca | replace the stupid gear to the right of the user with a "Choose Session: " | 18:18 |
| madnick | could i see a screenshot? | 18:18 |
| * madnick is downloading the image still | 18:18 | |
| charlie-tca | madnick: http://astraljava.kapsi.fi/Xubuntu-desktop-lightdm-greeter_20110812.png | 18:19 |
| charlie-tca | see where to choose the session? | 18:19 |
| astraljava | madnick: Look above, I linked to one. | 18:19 |
| astraljava | Ahh... there you have it. :) | 18:19 |
| madnick | charlie-tca: nope :P I acctually do not | 18:20 |
| charlie-tca | astraljava: yes, if you did not follow the 12 step reset, you didn't get the right session | 18:20 |
| charlie-tca | madnick: it's that stupid looking gear thing | 18:20 |
| madnick | oh! | 18:20 |
| charlie-tca | Sorry, don't quite know what to call that | 18:21 |
| charlie-tca | but I find it really stupid, myself | 18:21 |
| madnick | So, you want to add a userlist there? | 18:21 |
| charlie-tca | I want it to say "Choose session: ", please | 18:21 |
| madnick | okay :) | 18:21 |
| charlie-tca | That is the user list | 18:21 |
| charlie-tca | Other, Janne, guest is the user list | 18:22 |
| madnick | sorry, i slipped my mind :) | 18:22 |
| madnick | Okay, but yeah, I can do that | 18:22 |
| charlie-tca | Of course, if you have more than three or four users, it ain't really gonna fit, either | 18:22 |
| madnick | hm | 18:22 |
| madnick | How about adding it to that panel on the top right? | 18:23 |
| madnick | like a dropdown list? | 18:23 |
| charlie-tca | I think they have to add the two missing icons there, too | 18:23 |
| charlie-tca | The sessions? | 18:23 |
| madnick | yes | 18:23 |
| charlie-tca | That would be fine, It just has to state "sessions: " specifically. That icon does not work. | 18:24 |
| madnick | Okay | 18:24 |
| charlie-tca | Some things are not easily expressed in a tiny icon. | 18:24 |
| madnick | :) | 18:24 |
| madnick | Ill set it up, and paste a screenshow of it looks, when the install is done | 18:24 |
| madnick | it will take like 2 hours from now :\ | 18:25 |
| charlie-tca | okay | 18:25 |
| charlie-tca | well, you did ask for input... | 18:25 |
| charlie-tca | it just seems wrong now. I can adjust volume and use gmusicbrowser from the login screen, but I can not choose to restart or shutdown or sessions or accessibility? | 18:26 |
| charlie-tca | astraljava: I got Try Xubuntu... on hardware | 18:28 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: Oh okay, maybe not possible in vbox/other virt? | 18:29 |
| charlie-tca | possibility that it is broken again, yes | 18:29 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know, since my VBox is broken again and I have to remove and reinstall to try and fix it | 18:30 |
| madnick | cctually | 18:31 |
| madnick | acctually* they are stock icons | 18:31 |
| madnick | that are missing from us :) | 18:31 |
| charlie-tca | what are? | 18:31 |
| charlie-tca | oh | 18:31 |
| charlie-tca | um, live session, second xubuntu session is wrong one | 18:31 |
| charlie-tca | I see, so we have to replace those with icons that are really there? | 18:32 |
| Unit193 | I have 3 steps for fixing wrong session... >_> | 18:33 |
| charlie-tca | I wish mr_pouit would get back. We need to decide if fixing this thing is really gonna work for us | 18:33 |
| charlie-tca | Unit193: What are they? | 18:33 |
| Unit193 | 1. rm (~/).config 2. rm (~/).cache 3. Logout and back in | 18:34 |
| Unit193 | (Testing only, not actual system) | 18:34 |
| charlie-tca | You forgot the "Open a terminal" | 18:34 |
| charlie-tca | or is it in a tty? | 18:35 |
| charlie-tca | oh, and also "find the quit icon in the panel. It is not on the right end in this session" thing | 18:35 |
| Unit193 | Alright, but you don't already have a few open? | 18:35 |
| charlie-tca | no | 18:35 |
| micahg | Unit193: be careful with instructions like that, it can wipe out stuff on an install | 18:36 |
| astraljava | Well, that's still 4 steps actually: 1. Ctrl + Alt + F[1-6], 2. rm .config, 3. rm .cache, 4. sudo service lightdm restart | 18:36 |
| charlie-tca | I log in, I have to click on which panel setup to use, I close xfce tips, then I am staring at what is not the right screen | 18:36 |
| Unit193 | micahg: Yeah, I added that after but that's only telling charlie how I do it (Not going to tell others to use it) | 18:36 |
| astraljava | micahg: True, but aren't we talking about .iso testing here? :) | 18:36 |
| charlie-tca | steps just increased... | 18:37 |
| Unit193 | I actually use rm .cache && rm .config | 18:37 |
| charlie-tca | 1. Ctrl+alt+F1, 2. login | 18:37 |
| astraljava | Unit193: rm -rf maybe? | 18:37 |
| micahg | astraljava: it depends, I just wanted that in there for people reading IRC logs | 18:37 |
| Unit193 | astraljava: Yeah. No sleep yesterday and not much today is really catching up :/ | 18:37 |
| astraljava | micahg: Good call. I always forget the logging. | 18:38 |
| charlie-tca | 3. rm -r .cache 4. rm -r .cache 5. sudo service lightdm restart 6. Ctrl+Alt+F1 7. logout 8. Alt+F7 | 18:38 |
| * Unit193 Hates the logs ever so much@!! | 18:38 | |
| astraljava | Which is why I shoudl muthaf***ing clean my act up. *oops* | 18:38 |
| charlie-tca | We are talking about anyone that installs oneiric and decides to keep it too | 18:38 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: You shouldn't have to log out after restarting lightdm. | 18:39 |
| astraljava | What gives? | 18:39 |
| charlie-tca | You gonna leave the tty logged into then? | 18:39 |
| astraljava | charlie-tca: Does it matter? | 18:39 |
| charlie-tca | It doesn't log you out automatically until you restart the computer, at which time it might hang because you are logged into a tty | 18:39 |
| astraljava | Besides, you're in tty1 already, you don't have to Ctrl+Alt+F1 again. | 18:40 |
| charlie-tca | no, restarting lightdm sends you to F7 to login | 18:40 |
| astraljava | Ahh... crap. | 18:40 |
| astraljava | Yeah, I did that in terminal while still running X. | 18:40 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, it doesn't seem so long when actually doing it, if you have done it before | 18:41 |
| * astraljava takes the dog for a walk | 18:41 | |
| charlie-tca | and it worked from the terminal? | 18:41 |
| charlie-tca | Well, I made it to the live session. It is the first xubuntu session now | 18:43 |
| charlie-tca | bug 825414 | 18:48 |
| ubottu | Error: Launchpad bug 825414 could not be found | 18:48 |
| charlie-tca | bug 825414 | 18:48 |
| charlie-tca | anyway, that is for the nvidia-common failure | 18:49 |
| charlie-tca | bug 825414 | 18:51 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 825414 in nvidia-common (Ubuntu) "nvidia-detector crashed with ValueError in __get_value_from_name(): invalid literal for int() with base 10: '173-updates'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/825414 | 18:51 |
| micahg | someone didn't filter their input :) | 18:52 |
| charlie-tca | huh? | 18:54 |
| charlie-tca | what input | 18:54 |
| charlie-tca | oh | 18:54 |
| charlie-tca | not me, right/ | 18:54 |
| charlie-tca | Who should I push it too? | 18:55 |
| micahg | should be fine where it is | 18:55 |
| charlie-tca | Okay | 18:55 |
| charlie-tca | fun is just beginning | 18:56 |
| micahg | right, more breakage to come :) | 18:56 |
| charlie-tca | Going to be a great weekend! | 18:56 |
| charlie-tca | hm, no password required to install apps in terminal | 19:07 |
| charlie-tca | sudo apt-get install gnucash and it is installing it | 19:08 |
| charlie-tca | no password required | 19:08 |
| charlie-tca | oops | 19:14 |
| charlie-tca | live session | 19:14 |
| charlie-tca | probably better not to need the password | 19:15 |
| charlie-tca | I will install xubuntu and try that again | 19:15 |
| charlie-tca | I am jinxed | 20:11 |
| charlie-tca | stuck at "Configuring target system for, oh, maybe an hour now | 20:11 |
| charlie-tca | Let's see, set timer, 2 hours should be enough, start timer now | 20:12 |
| charlie-tca | "Configuring target syste..." | 20:12 |
| charlie-tca | can't be stuck again, can it? | 20:12 |
| Unit193 | Stop, hammertime ;) | 20:15 |
| charlie-tca | Gotta wait the 2 hours now, I started the timer already | 20:16 |
| charlie-tca | going for a walk, will see what happens | 20:17 |
| charlie-tca | I am starting to think this 10 american dollars computer is broke | 21:04 |
| jarnos | I wish I could send you another, but I suppose it would be far more expensive to send. | 21:06 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, I would expect it to cost more for shipping that than | 21:06 |
| charlie-tca | Well, I guess I should try the free one and see if it works | 21:07 |
| jarnos | Good luck | 21:09 |
| jarnos | I am a little confused about Swap. I have "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0" in /etc/fstab of Oneiric. Gparted is unable to detect swap partition, which I have meant to share between different installations. I updated my main installation to Natty form Maverick... | 21:24 |
| jarnos | Sorry from Maverick to Natty. | 21:25 |
| jarnos | And Natty is supposed to have normal swap partition. | 21:26 |
| jarnos | Does Oneiric somehow prohibit using the same partition for swap? | 21:26 |
| charlie-tca | If the / or /home is encrypted, as far as I know, /swap must also be encrypted. | 21:27 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know what happens if /swap is encrypted by /home is not | 21:27 |
| charlie-tca | I think I read they changed that stuff for oneiric | 21:28 |
| charlie-tca | They have been working on encrypted stuff, since encrypting /home was blocking the user from logging in at all | 21:29 |
| charlie-tca | There was a new fix for it today. | 21:29 |
| jarnos | charlie-tca, IIRC I have never explicitly encrypted swap, but I suppose Oneiric installation did it when I chose to encrypt /home. | 21:30 |
| charlie-tca | jarnos: thanks for your feedback on project lead, too. I had to wonder if the messages were even going through. | 21:30 |
| charlie-tca | That would be my guess too. | 21:31 |
| jarnos | charlie-tca, you are welcome. | 21:31 |
| charlie-tca | since /swap could be used in extreme cases for stuff in /home | 21:31 |
| jarnos | oh | 21:31 |
| charlie-tca | It is just covering all possibilities | 21:32 |
| jarnos | As for swap, there is also Bug #709363 | 21:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 709363 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "swap partition disappeared during installation" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/709363 | 21:33 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 21:35 |
| charlie-tca | might pull the syslog and partition log from /var/log/installer and attach them to the bug in hopes it will have more information for them to work with | 21:35 |
| astraljava | I thought the things about project lead were just for the Xubuntu team, no? | 21:36 |
| charlie-tca | why? | 21:36 |
| charlie-tca | They are for all users interested in Xubuntu, actually. Might get more team players if it is advertised enough. | 21:36 |
| charlie-tca | I have to insure it gets published twice before the change can take effect. Otherwise, it will not be valid | 21:37 |
| jarnos | And Bug #42159 | 21:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 42159 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "If an existing swap partition is marked to be formatted, it gets "corrupted" and unused in the final installed system, because the LiveCD is using it" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42159 | 21:37 |
| charlie-tca | I haven't seen that happen here, jarnos | 21:38 |
| charlie-tca | The other one, I think I might have hit before | 21:38 |
| charlie-tca | Not everyone on Xubuntu Team is subscribed to the -devel mailing list, so I sent it to -users, too | 21:39 |
| jarnos | I wonder, if it is safe to format the partition now as swap in Natty; I mean can Oneiric use it after that? | 21:40 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know | 21:41 |
| charlie-tca | Anyone got Oneiric to install today from desktop images? | 21:41 |
| madnick | Yes | 21:54 |
| charlie-tca | desktop or "install now"? | 21:58 |
| madnick | Oh, "install now" | 21:58 |
| charlie-tca | Okay. I will try that too | 21:58 |
| charlie-tca | Then I will try the desktop install on the other computer, too | 21:59 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe I got what I paid for in this cheap computer | 22:00 |
| charlie-tca | okay, install from menu worked | 22:11 |
| charlie-tca | hm, user name is too long, and the gear is hidden by the name now | 22:14 |
| astraljava | Noo.... really?! *facepalm* | 22:14 |
| charlie-tca | heh, apparently, you better get the right number of letters in your name | 22:15 |
| charlie-tca | trying the other computer, see if it will install from the desktop icon | 22:16 |
| * Unit193 selected the wrong Xubuntu Session -_- | 22:16 | |
| Unit193 | Anyone else get nvidia-detector crash on boot? | 22:17 |
| Unit193 | *First live boot | 22:17 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 22:17 |
| Unit193 | Alright, ignores | 22:18 |
| charlie-tca | that would be bug 825259 | 22:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 825259 in nvidia-common (Ubuntu Oneiric) "File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/NvidiaDetector/nvidiadetector.py", line 87, in __get_value_from_name v = int(name) - ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: '173-updates'" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/825259 | 22:18 |
| charlie-tca | Installing on second machine to check install from live desktop | 22:30 |
| Unit193 | Seems to be working for me (Since I did a few entires, I'm going with autoresize :P ) | 22:31 |
| charlie-tca | well, great! We have to try most of the install methods by monday, to see what is still broken | 22:32 |
| Unit193 | I could do an entire or manual (Or anything else really) today | 22:32 |
| jarnos | I tried to update my Oneiric installation on hard disk, but it offered partial upgrade. Is that recommended or something that might change, if I try it later? | 22:38 |
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