GridCubecharlie-tca, i think i have 6 of the top 10 now :)00:08
charlie-tcagaining fast then! Glad to hear there is progress00:09
micahgI finally got normal notifications back, somehow the type of notification got set to something crazy00:11
* micahg is guessing he's going to have to see libindicate-gtk2 now00:12
GridCubei particulary like number six: Q: Can I edit the Start Menu? A: nope.00:16
charlie-tcaLet's give ochosi time to get back, and mr_pouit.00:16
micahghuh? I thought we shipped something to do that00:16
knomeGridCube, "A: You can use a menu editor of your choice to do that, for example Alacarte."00:17
GridCubewhat is alacarte?00:17
GridCubeand how you install it?00:17
charlie-tcaGridCube: your A: is wrong00:18
knomealacarte is a menu editing application00:18
knomesudo apt-get install alacarte00:18
charlie-tcaFor Xfce 4.8, 'sudo apt-get install alacarte --no-install-recommends' in a terminal will let you use an editor to change the menus.00:18
micahgyes, but it'll pull in the gnome stack00:18
charlie-tcawithout the --no-install-recommends, it will pull in too much00:19
knomeright, i've disabled installing the recommended packages altogether00:19
charlie-tcaGridCube: that is valid for both 11.04 and 11.1000:19
GridCubeand for 10.04 as i just tested it00:19
GridCubewell, at least the sudo apt-get part, but it wants me to download 160MB thats a bit too much00:20
GridCubeand pretty ridicule for just editing a menu00:20
knomealacarte won't edit the xubuntu menu prior to 11.0400:21
GridCubeoh then its useless00:21
charlie-tcayou still running 10.04?00:21
GridCubealso the no-install-recommends avoided the 160b00:22
GridCubei use 10.0400:22
charlie-tcaGridCube: For Xfce 4.8, 'sudo apt-get install alacarte --no-install-recommends' in a terminal will let you use an editor to change the menus.00:22
charlie-tcaGridCube: that would be 11.04 and higher00:22
GridCubecopy pasted it00:22
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charlie-tcamicahg: bug 824299 closed as fixed again13:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 824299 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "lightdm should offer the alternative virtual greeter package" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82429913:15
charlie-tcaWe have desktop images, but my zsync started at 58% complete today. Going to be a while to get them here.13:22
charlie-tcamicahg_: Is there a way for us to get this fix for ristretto pulled and put into to both 11.04 and 11.10?13:43
ubottubugzilla.xfce.org bug 7882 in General "Memory leak when navigating through a set of images" [Major,Assigned: ]13:43
charlie-tcaProbably have to wait for it to hit Debian?13:44
charlie-tcaSeems like a good thing to get, though13:44
astraljavaI was at 59.4%13:50
charlie-tcaoh, 386?13:51
charlie-tcaI need to know if lightdm changed at all for us. 13:51
charlie-tcaand whether or not we can actually login today13:52
charlie-tcaand the good news is... I need to update and reinstall vbox, again13:52
charlie-tcaRelease team meeting in about 1 hour, won't have results since I don't have the full images yet13:56
charlie-tcaOkay, I asked this on the bug report, but will ask again. Is it possible to pin the gnome-system-tools package from 11.04 to 11.10 so users-admin does not require mixed gtk2 and gtk3?14:15
charlie-tcabug 78933314:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 789333 in gnome-system-tools (Ubuntu) "users-admin crashes on start because of mixed GTK2 and 3 symbols" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78933314:15
astraljavacharlie-tca: Yeah, i386, cause I intend to test on real hw, and it's 32-bit only.14:42
charlie-tcaI have the advantage then. I have both machines14:42
charlie-tcaI just have this painfully slow internet14:43
astraljavaI do have a laptop and a desktop for amd64 usage, but those are for different purposes. But I should just add a few more disks for the desktop, so I could install more.14:43
astraljavaDid you mean g-system-tools as for the image or just locally, for yourself?14:44
micahg_charlie-tca: oneiric, sure, natty, if there's a test case14:44
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charlie-tcaI mean gnome-system-tools as in System -> Users and Groups14:47
charlie-tcaYou can not add a user 14:47
charlie-tcawhich, if we are really going to provide the interface for users, needs to work14:47
charlie-tcamicahg: I will have to find the natty bug14:47
micahgcharlie-tca: users-admin needs to be gtk314:48
micahgto work with the rest of gnome14:48
charlie-tcaAccording to the bug report, it is up to those planning to use it to make it work14:48
astraljavaSo what components bring GNOME3 libs in at this moment?14:49
charlie-tcamicahg: so, are we going to have to add tons of gnome3 to get that working for us now?14:49
micahgcharlie-tca: oops, you're right14:49
micahgcharlie-tca: the problem is the libs it needs are now GNOME3 libs14:49
charlie-tcaIf we have to fix it, can't we just use the natty package?14:50
micahgit's still a gnome2 app14:50
charlie-tcait worked14:50
micahgthat's what's in oneiric :)14:50
charlie-tcaI knew my thinking was faulty again14:50
* astraljava is just soooo confused now14:50
charlie-tcaastraljava: next install, try adding a new user or group14:51
* micahg will have to chat with gilir about this14:51
charlie-tcaOkay, I would like it working for beta114:51
charlie-tcaIs that possible?14:51
charlie-tcaor at least we can project that?14:52
charlie-tcamight be beta2, but milestones are movable14:52
micahgcharlie-tca: well, let15:09
micahgs  see what deps are needed, we could always look for a different tool as well15:09
charlie-tcaI agree15:10
micahgbut Lubuntu is in the same boat which is a plus for us :)15:26
charlie-tca and mythbuntu too15:27
micahgcharlie-tca: good news is unity-greeter won't be pulled in anymore :)15:41
micahgso, we have dailies back and i386 is almost oversized...15:43
charlie-tcaalmost is okay15:44
charlie-tcawe can look at what is not needed again, since they always have ways of adding to us15:45
micahgwell, I'm guessing it was another incomplete library transition or 215:46
charlie-tcasomething else unity decided we need?15:46
* astraljava can't seem to get the desktop i386 installing in virtualbox15:47
micahgah, we inherited colord support :)15:47
charlie-tcaanything in particular yet?15:47
charlie-tcasee, micahg. I knew they 'helped' us again15:48
micahgwell, that's actually a good thing in this case, but it does take space :)15:48
charlie-tcahm, how much of kde did we get?15:49
charlie-tcaI will look at this stuff after the meeting15:50
charlie-tcaastraljava: how far into the install?15:50
astraljavaWait, something's not right. The desktop image doesn't have the "Try Xubuntu without <whatever>". What gives?15:50
charlie-tcaubiquity got changed again15:50
charlie-tcafile a bug for it15:51
astraljavaWell it seems to have been a glitch with virtualbox, cause resetting it makes it progress, actually. *phew*15:51
astraljavaIPv6 autoconfiguration?! REALLY?!15:52
micahgcharlie-tca: kde? shouldn't be any, colord is a system service that makes it easy to manage, install and generate15:52
micahg colour profiles to accurately colour manage input and output devices.15:52
charlie-tcaI know that. But that doesn't mean it doesn't happen15:52
micahgheh, well upgrades are broke for me ATM due to a mono issue which I probably won't be able to debug until sunday15:53
charlie-tcaheh, well, at least you know how to do it. ;)15:53
astraljavamicahg: Bug #?15:54
micahgastraljava: for what?15:54
astraljavaThe mono issue?15:54
micahgoh, haven't filed one yet due to apport thinking it's reported this before :)15:54
astraljavaOh okay.15:54
micahgretracers are broke anyways due to the apt transition15:55
charlie-tcaoh, my15:56
micahgastraljava: bug 82485816:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 824858 in mono (Ubuntu) "package libmono-webbrowser4.0-cil (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/mono/4.0/Mono.WebBrowser.dll', which is also in package libmono-webbrowser0.5-cil 2.10.1-4ubuntu1" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82485816:09
GridCubethats a nice bug name16:10
micahgdoesn't affect xubuntu since we don't ship banshee16:10
micahgcharlie-tca: dh_python2 and libssl1.0.0 transitions needed for xubuntu still, will request FFes for dh_python2 stuff16:12
charlie-tca Okay16:14
micahgcharlie-tca: sorry, should've told you that earlier :)16:15
charlie-tcaNo problem. I discussed it last week with skaet and explained that we won't know much in advance what we need.16:15
astraljavamicahg: Thanks!16:37
charlie-tcaOkay, burning images to start testing16:37
astraljavawhee! /me just got the IPTV box and the modem for the broadband. Come Monday evening, I'll be (sort of) happy again.16:38
astraljavaReally? Supposed to look like this? http://astraljava.kapsi.fi/Xubuntu-desktop-lightdm-greeter_20110812.png16:42
knomeastraljava, why monday evening?16:45
knomeastraljava, that's the default unity-theme, without wallpaper16:45
astraljavaknome: Cause that's when they'll install the service.16:46
astraljavaknome: Gah!!!16:46
madnickI feel like a really naggy person :( but knome have you thought about the themes? :) I'm just kinda eager to get going with these stuff, since it will take quite some time to write it :P16:51
charlie-tcanewest thing in login themes!16:51
charlie-tcaThink it is all shook out now, madnick. 16:51
madnickSo Ill fetch todays image :)16:53
charlie-tcanot sure yet, but will know later today/this weekend.16:54
charlie-tcaI will be testing all images before monday, to see what happens16:55
charlie-tcasync is almost finished, only another hour or so16:59
astraljavaOkay, so now it's the second Xubuntu session that needs to be selected to get into our shit.17:04
charlie-tcawell, depends on which session really works. it changes17:04
astraljavaGotta figure out during the weekend why we have 2 at the first place.17:04
astraljavaOh really?17:04
charlie-tcaWe have two because lightdm is not really fixed for us17:05
astraljavaSo we know why, exactly?17:05
charlie-tcabecause we use a symlink like it was suggested on bug 799754 , comment #1317:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 799754 in lightdm (Ubuntu) "Please let vendors easily provide their own config" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79975417:06
charlie-tcaand that causes two sessions to appear17:06
charlie-tcaand mr_pouit has probably gone close to bald now trying to fix that and get some cooperation from Ubuntu for it.17:07
charlie-tcabecause the best response we get is "it should work"17:08
charlie-tcaso, I guess, any help you can give would be appreciated!17:09
charlie-tcaWe seem to be the ones pushing to get it right, so that all derivatives can use lightdm17:09
charlie-tcaastraljava: if it helps any, most of the other flavours are cheering for us :)17:11
astraljavaOh alright. :) I'll have a look, I guess, but then I don't expect to get anywhere without talking to mr_pouit first.17:14
astraljavaOkay, well things seemed to work in vbox, outside the hidden bar at the bottom of the screen, so I'll do proper testing on the actual hw tomorrow/Sunday.17:16
charlie-tcaGreat! If you do decide to investigate lightdm, maybe that bug provides a starting point?17:17
charlie-tcaRobert Ancell might be back next week, I don't know for sure. he gets a week on holiday after the summit17:18
astraljavaSure, but I just think it's pointless to redo the same false fixes that mr_pouit has already done. :)17:18
charlie-tcaI agree. Hoping he is back too next week17:19
astraljavaLionel is mr_pouit ?! I never knew! :D17:34
charlie-tcayes, he is :)17:43
charlie-tcamadnick: I think just adding our own background to the lightdm screen could work18:04
charlie-tcaalthough I question the gear to the right of the user name18:05
charlie-tcaIt's not very intuitive as to who is logging in18:06
charlie-tcaapparently, I didn't pick the right session, either18:07
astraljavaBut now it shouldn't matter anymore, I was able to just log out and choose the correct one without penalties.18:07
charlie-tcaastraljava: where did you pick a session from?18:07
charlie-tcathis login screen doesn't have sessions18:08
astraljavaI think it was the gear that you mentioned, but I might forget already.18:08
charlie-tcaYup, that really is not good for the user18:08
charlie-tcamadnick: I really prefer we use Sessions:18:09
charlie-tcato indicate such18:09
charlie-tcathat icon is anything but usable without being told to try clicking it18:09
madnickcharlie-tca: using the wallpaper on top of the lightdm greeter?18:10
charlie-tcayes, with some changes, I guess, since that gear is not really usable to say "choose session here"18:13
charlie-tcaThat really sucks18:13
charlie-tcaWe still do not have a decent way to tell the user "choose the right session at login"18:14
charlie-tcait still takes 12 steps to reset the session if the wrong session is logged into18:14
madnickso adding a session list18:17
madnickIn the panel? Or in the main UI?18:17
charlie-tcain the lightdm screen18:17
astraljavacharlie-tca: Really? I just restarted lightdm, and when the greeter came up again, I chose the correct one. Oh! Is that why I didn't see the hidden bar when brought the mouse cursor at the bottom?18:17
charlie-tcareplace the stupid gear to the right of the user with a "Choose Session: "18:18
madnickcould i see a screenshot?18:18
* madnick is downloading the image still18:18
charlie-tcamadnick: http://astraljava.kapsi.fi/Xubuntu-desktop-lightdm-greeter_20110812.png18:19
charlie-tcasee where to choose the session?18:19
astraljavamadnick: Look above, I linked to one.18:19
astraljavaAhh... there you have it. :)18:19
madnickcharlie-tca: nope :P I acctually do not18:20
charlie-tcaastraljava: yes, if you did not follow the 12 step reset, you didn't get the right session18:20
charlie-tcamadnick: it's that stupid looking gear thing18:20
charlie-tcaSorry, don't quite know what to call that18:21
charlie-tcabut I find it really stupid, myself18:21
madnickSo, you want to add a userlist there?18:21
charlie-tcaI want it to say "Choose session: ", please18:21
madnickokay :)18:21
charlie-tcaThat is the user list18:21
charlie-tcaOther, Janne, guest is the user list18:22
madnicksorry, i slipped my mind :)18:22
madnickOkay, but yeah, I can do that18:22
charlie-tcaOf course, if you have more than three or four users, it ain't really gonna fit, either18:22
madnickHow about adding it to that panel on the top right?18:23
madnicklike a dropdown list?18:23
charlie-tcaI think they have to add the two missing icons there, too18:23
charlie-tcaThe sessions?18:23
charlie-tcaThat would be fine, It just has to state "sessions: " specifically. That icon does not work.18:24
charlie-tcaSome things are not easily expressed in a tiny icon. 18:24
madnickIll set it up, and paste a screenshow of it looks, when the install is done18:24
madnickit will take like 2 hours from now :\18:25
charlie-tcawell, you did ask for input...18:25
charlie-tcait just seems wrong now. I can adjust volume and use gmusicbrowser from the login screen, but I can not choose to restart or shutdown or sessions or accessibility?18:26
charlie-tcaastraljava: I got Try Xubuntu... on hardware18:28
astraljavacharlie-tca: Oh okay, maybe not possible in vbox/other virt?18:29
charlie-tcapossibility that it is broken again, yes18:29
charlie-tcaI don't know, since my VBox is broken again and I have to remove and reinstall to try and fix it18:30
madnickacctually* they are stock icons18:31
madnickthat are missing from us :)18:31
charlie-tcawhat are?18:31
charlie-tcaum, live session, second xubuntu session is wrong one18:31
charlie-tcaI see, so we have to replace those with icons that are really there?18:32
Unit193I have 3 steps for fixing wrong session... >_>18:33
charlie-tcaI wish mr_pouit would get back. We need to decide if fixing this thing is really gonna work for us18:33
charlie-tcaUnit193: What are they?18:33
Unit1931. rm (~/).config 2. rm (~/).cache 3. Logout and back in18:34
Unit193(Testing only, not actual system)18:34
charlie-tcaYou forgot the "Open a terminal"18:34
charlie-tcaor is it in a tty?18:35
charlie-tcaoh, and also "find the quit icon in the panel. It is not on the right end in this session" thing18:35
Unit193Alright, but you don't already have a few open?18:35
micahgUnit193: be careful with instructions like that, it can wipe out stuff  on an install18:36
astraljavaWell, that's still 4 steps actually: 1. Ctrl + Alt + F[1-6], 2. rm .config, 3. rm .cache, 4. sudo service lightdm restart18:36
charlie-tcaI log in, I have to click on which panel setup to use, I close xfce tips, then I am staring at what is not the right screen18:36
Unit193micahg: Yeah, I added that after but that's only telling charlie how I do it (Not going to tell others to use it)18:36
astraljavamicahg: True, but aren't we talking about .iso testing here? :)18:36
charlie-tcasteps just increased...18:37
Unit193I actually use rm .cache && rm .config18:37
charlie-tca1. Ctrl+alt+F1, 2. login18:37
astraljavaUnit193: rm -rf maybe?18:37
micahgastraljava: it depends, I just wanted that in there for people reading IRC logs18:37
Unit193astraljava: Yeah. No sleep yesterday and not much today is really catching up :/18:37
astraljavamicahg: Good call. I always forget the logging.18:38
charlie-tca3. rm -r .cache 4. rm -r .cache 5. sudo service lightdm restart 6. Ctrl+Alt+F1 7. logout 8. Alt+F718:38
* Unit193 Hates the logs ever so much@!!18:38
astraljavaWhich is why I shoudl muthaf***ing clean my act up. *oops*18:38
charlie-tcaWe are talking about anyone that installs oneiric and decides to keep it too18:38
astraljavacharlie-tca: You shouldn't have to log out after restarting lightdm.18:39
astraljavaWhat gives?18:39
charlie-tcaYou gonna leave the tty logged into then?18:39
astraljavacharlie-tca: Does it matter?18:39
charlie-tcaIt doesn't log you out automatically until you restart the computer, at which time it might hang because you are logged into a tty18:39
astraljavaBesides, you're in tty1 already, you don't have to Ctrl+Alt+F1 again.18:40
charlie-tcano, restarting lightdm sends you to F7 to login18:40
astraljavaAhh... crap.18:40
astraljavaYeah, I did that in terminal while still running X.18:40
charlie-tcaYeah, it doesn't seem so long when actually doing it, if you have done it before18:41
* astraljava takes the dog for a walk18:41
charlie-tcaand it worked from the terminal?18:41
charlie-tcaWell, I made it to the live session. It is the first xubuntu session now18:43
charlie-tcabug 82541418:48
ubottuError: Launchpad bug 825414 could not be found18:48
charlie-tcabug 82541418:48
charlie-tcaanyway, that is for the nvidia-common failure18:49
charlie-tcabug 82541418:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 825414 in nvidia-common (Ubuntu) "nvidia-detector crashed with ValueError in __get_value_from_name(): invalid literal for int() with base 10: '173-updates'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82541418:51
micahgsomeone didn't filter their input :)18:52
charlie-tcawhat input18:54
charlie-tcanot me, right/18:54
charlie-tcaWho should I push it too?18:55
micahgshould be fine where it is18:55
charlie-tcafun is just beginning18:56
micahgright, more breakage to come :)18:56
charlie-tcaGoing to be a great weekend!18:56
charlie-tcahm, no password required to install apps in terminal19:07
charlie-tcasudo apt-get install gnucash and it is installing it19:08
charlie-tcano password required19:08
charlie-tcalive session19:14
charlie-tcaprobably better not to need the password19:15
charlie-tcaI will install xubuntu and try that again19:15
charlie-tcaI am jinxed20:11
charlie-tcastuck at "Configuring target system for, oh, maybe an hour now20:11
charlie-tcaLet's see, set timer, 2 hours should be enough, start timer now20:12
charlie-tca"Configuring target syste..." 20:12
charlie-tcacan't be stuck again, can it?20:12
Unit193Stop, hammertime ;)20:15
charlie-tcaGotta wait the 2 hours now, I started the timer already20:16
charlie-tcagoing for a walk, will see what happens20:17
charlie-tcaI am starting to think this 10 american dollars computer is broke21:04
jarnosI wish I could send you another, but I suppose it would be far more expensive to send.21:06
charlie-tcaYeah, I would expect it to cost more for shipping that than21:06
charlie-tcaWell, I guess I should try the free one and see if it works21:07
jarnosGood luck21:09
jarnosI am a little confused about Swap. I have "/dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0" in /etc/fstab of Oneiric. Gparted is unable to detect swap partition, which I have meant to share between different installations. I updated my main installation to Natty form Maverick...21:24
jarnosSorry from Maverick to Natty. 21:25
jarnosAnd Natty is supposed to have normal swap partition.21:26
jarnosDoes Oneiric somehow prohibit using the same partition for swap?21:26
charlie-tcaIf the / or /home is encrypted, as far as I know, /swap must also be encrypted. 21:27
charlie-tcaI don't know what happens if /swap is encrypted by /home is not21:27
charlie-tcaI think I read they changed that stuff for oneiric21:28
charlie-tcaThey have been working on encrypted stuff, since encrypting /home was blocking the user from logging in at all21:29
charlie-tcaThere was a new fix for it today.21:29
jarnoscharlie-tca, IIRC I have never explicitly encrypted swap, but I suppose Oneiric installation did it when I chose to encrypt /home.21:30
charlie-tcajarnos: thanks for your feedback on project lead, too. I had to wonder if the messages were even going through.21:30
charlie-tcaThat would be my guess too. 21:31
jarnoscharlie-tca, you are welcome.21:31
charlie-tcasince /swap could be used in extreme cases for stuff in /home21:31
charlie-tcaIt is just covering all possibilities21:32
jarnosAs for swap, there is also Bug #70936321:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 709363 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "swap partition disappeared during installation" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70936321:33
charlie-tcamight pull the syslog and partition log from /var/log/installer and attach them to the bug in hopes it will have more information for them to work with21:35
astraljavaI thought the things about project lead were just for the Xubuntu team, no?21:36
charlie-tcaThey are for all users interested in Xubuntu, actually. Might get more team players if it is advertised enough.21:36
charlie-tcaI have to insure it gets published twice before the change can take effect. Otherwise, it will not be valid21:37
jarnosAnd Bug #4215921:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 42159 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "If an existing swap partition is marked to be formatted, it gets "corrupted" and unused in the final installed system, because the LiveCD is using it" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/4215921:37
charlie-tcaI haven't seen that happen here, jarnos 21:38
charlie-tcaThe other one, I think I might have hit before21:38
charlie-tcaNot everyone on Xubuntu Team is subscribed to the -devel mailing list, so I sent it to -users, too21:39
jarnosI wonder, if it is safe to format the partition now as swap in Natty; I mean can Oneiric use it after that?21:40
charlie-tcaI don't know21:41
charlie-tcaAnyone got Oneiric to install today from desktop images?21:41
charlie-tcadesktop or "install now"?21:58
madnickOh, "install now"21:58
charlie-tcaOkay. I will try that too21:58
charlie-tcaThen I will try the desktop install on the other computer, too21:59
charlie-tcaMaybe I got what I paid for in this cheap computer22:00
charlie-tcaokay, install from menu worked22:11
charlie-tcahm, user name is too long, and the gear is hidden by the name now22:14
astraljavaNoo.... really?! *facepalm*22:14
charlie-tcaheh, apparently, you better get the right number of letters in your name22:15
charlie-tcatrying the other computer, see if it will install from the desktop icon22:16
* Unit193 selected the wrong Xubuntu Session -_-22:16
Unit193Anyone else get nvidia-detector crash on boot?22:17
Unit193*First live boot22:17
Unit193Alright, ignores22:18
charlie-tcathat would be bug 82525922:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 825259 in nvidia-common (Ubuntu Oneiric) "File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/NvidiaDetector/nvidiadetector.py", line 87, in __get_value_from_name v = int(name) - ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: '173-updates'" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82525922:18
charlie-tcaInstalling on second machine to check install from live desktop22:30
Unit193Seems to be working for me (Since I did a few entires, I'm going with autoresize :P )22:31
charlie-tcawell, great! We have to try most of the install methods by monday, to see what is still broken22:32
Unit193I could do an entire or manual (Or anything else really) today22:32
jarnosI tried to update my Oneiric installation on hard disk, but it offered partial upgrade. Is that recommended or something that might change, if I try it later?22:38

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