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| topyli | ircc meeting. jussi nhandler tsimpson elky? | 11:01 |
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| elky | \o | 11:01 |
| tsimpson | o/ | 11:02 |
| jussi | o/ | 11:02 |
| topyli | it's probably not nhandler's best hour | 11:02 |
| jussi | He said he wouldnt be here | 11:02 |
| elky | He already notified he'd be asleep | 11:02 |
| topyli | aye | 11:03 |
| topyli | #startmeeting | 11:03 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Sat Aug 13 11:03:18 2011 UTC. The chair is topyli. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. | 11:03 |
| meetingology | Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting. | 11:03 |
| topyli | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda | 11:03 |
| jussi | Remeber this is a different bot | 11:03 |
| topyli | #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcCouncil/MeetingAgenda | 11:04 |
| topyli | grr. i blame the bot | 11:04 |
| topyli | did we have any actions from last time? | 11:04 |
| topyli | we didn't | 11:05 |
| jussi | not that I see | 11:05 |
| tsimpson | we do have the previous-previous actions | 11:05 |
| jussi | still have this bug open: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/788503 | 11:05 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 788503 in ubuntu-community "IRC Guidelines too #ubuntu centric" [Undecided,In progress] | 11:05 |
| jussi | tsimpson: which were? | 11:06 |
| tsimpson | that bug :) | 11:06 |
| topyli | is it still in progress? | 11:06 |
| tsimpson | it stalled | 11:06 |
| elky | howso? | 11:07 |
| tsimpson | in that all activity on it seems to have stopped | 11:08 |
| elky | you volunteering to chase up on those who were contributing? | 11:08 |
| tsimpson | m4v posted an sample draft, but that's about it | 11:08 |
| tsimpson | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/72478406/guidelines_example_m4v.txt | 11:08 |
| jussi | So any ideas on making this go forward? is it just someone needs to go do the work? or? | 11:09 |
| topyli | oh i meant to study that but i forgot all about it. bad topyli | 11:09 |
| elky | i volunteer topyli then :P | 11:09 |
| topyli | i could see what m4v's draft changes and if it's good. i can action that and report in the next meeting | 11:10 |
| topyli | does that sound sane? | 11:11 |
| jussi | Ill work with you on that if you like | 11:11 |
| topyli | i would. won't hurt to have more eyeballs, it's a rather important document | 11:12 |
| topyli | #action topyli and jussi to review m4v's guidelines draft | 11:12 |
| meetingology | ACTION: topyli and jussi to review m4v's guidelines draft | 11:12 |
| topyli | #topic Add eir to #ubuntu | 11:13 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Add eir to #ubuntu | ||
| meetingology | TOPIC: Add eir to #ubuntu | 11:13 |
| topyli | tsimpson: you know how this is going :) | 11:13 |
| jussi | Peoples, Im real sorry, I need to run. Something has just come up. | 11:13 |
| elky | whaaa... | 11:13 |
| tsimpson | it's basically ready | 11:14 |
| * elky points at the topic vandalism. bad bot, bad | 11:14 | |
| topyli | elky: oh good point, need to change that before ending the meeting | 11:14 |
| topyli | tsimpson: i haven't been following this very well either. is it in testing as planned? | 11:15 |
| tsimpson | looks like it changes it back at the end of the meeting | 11:15 |
| topyli | ah | 11:15 |
| elky | it probably shouldnt' change at all in this channel... | 11:15 |
| tsimpson | topyli: nhandler and I have tested it, the worst way it can fail is that comments aren't added to the BT | 11:15 |
| tsimpson | we were hoping for more people to test it out, but testers didn't materialize | 11:16 |
| tsimpson | still, I think it's generally usable | 11:16 |
| topyli | maybe just go ahead and put it to real life testing in #ubuntu, monitor it and see whether or not it works? | 11:17 |
| topyli | if it fails dramatically, we should notice it in a matter of hours | 11:17 |
| tsimpson | that's the plan | 11:17 |
| tsimpson | as I say though, it really can't disrupt anything | 11:18 |
| topyli | yeah, but not having BT comments would be a regression. which we'll notice | 11:18 |
| topyli | it's not hard to pull it back if necessary, is it? | 11:19 |
| tsimpson | no, only the comments directed to eir would not be added | 11:19 |
| jussi | right, Im back | 11:19 |
| tsimpson | people can still use @comment or the web interface | 11:19 |
| topyli | ahh | 11:19 |
| topyli | jussi: quick work, whatever it was :) | 11:20 |
| jussi | the emeergency that wasnt | 11:20 |
| elky | the best kind of emergency | 11:20 |
| jussi | anyway, I say we make the announcement and put eir in. | 11:21 |
| tsimpson | we already announced that it was planned, we just need to pick a date and announce that | 11:22 |
| jussi | Monday :) then most people are around. | 11:22 |
| topyli | yes. how soon can you manage it? | 11:22 |
| tsimpson | whenever, I just need to change some @config values | 11:23 |
| tsimpson | (it's already in ubottu, just not enabled in #ubuntu etc) | 11:23 |
| tsimpson | and we'd need to actually get eir in #ubuntu and -ops-team | 11:23 |
| jussi | So any probs then with monday morning, tsimpson time? | 11:23 |
| topyli | monday would give us time to announce it, i'm for it | 11:24 |
| tsimpson | we need to actually teach people how to use eir too | 11:24 |
| jussi | Maybe we could run a session or 2 on that | 11:25 |
| tsimpson | and probably explain exactly what we want to use it for | 11:25 |
| jussi | put the logs somewhere | 11:25 |
| tsimpson | I think some people think it's replacing the ban tracker | 11:25 |
| topyli | i've noticed that too | 11:26 |
| topyli | so maybe monday is too soon? should we give it a week still? | 11:26 |
| tsimpson | I think the opposite ;) | 11:27 |
| elky | i'd give it until the docs are done. | 11:27 |
| jussi | mind, this could be explained in the announcement | 11:27 |
| topyli | jussi: true | 11:27 |
| tsimpson | put eir in there, so people can play with it | 11:27 |
| jussi | docs are done already | 11:27 |
| tsimpson | docs are available on http://freenode.net/eir.shtml | 11:28 |
| tsimpson | it just takes a little getting used to | 11:28 |
| jussi | Im still well in favour of monday, if tsimpson can get the announcement written by then | 11:28 |
| tsimpson | I'd like to collaborate with nhandler on it too, he's the resident eir guru | 11:29 |
| topyli | the confidence level here suggests i should agree :) | 11:29 |
| elky | i'm more interested in everyone being prepared for it. | 11:29 |
| elky | rather than how fast we can get the shiny toy | 11:30 |
| tsimpson | there's not a lot to prepare for, all the eir commands are post-action | 11:30 |
| tsimpson | so ops can still act as before, eir is just an add-on | 11:30 |
| topyli | people can work as they always have, as i understand this eir doesn't take anything away | 11:30 |
| IdleOne | add the bot to the channel and let's get to it. | 11:30 |
| IdleOne | we can learn on our feet | 11:30 |
| IdleOne | MHO | 11:30 |
| elky | then can we vote or whatever rather than this | 11:31 |
| tsimpson | all ops need to remember, is to communicate with eir in #ubuntu-ops-team rather than in private (so ubottu can pick up the comments) | 11:31 |
| topyli | "MHCO, my humble but corrrect opinion" | 11:31 |
| jussi | IdleOne: I agree. it isnt going to affect much if people dont know it yet, they will learn on the fly. | 11:31 |
| IdleOne | +1 | 11:31 |
| topyli | elky: object to tsimpson making the announcement and going ahead with on monday? | 11:33 |
| elky | nope | 11:33 |
| topyli | alright, no vote | 11:33 |
| tsimpson | we already voted for it anyway, this is just the implementation | 11:33 |
| elky | any other business? | 11:33 |
| topyli | #action tsimpson to announce and enable eir in #ubuntu | 11:34 |
| meetingology | ACTION: tsimpson to announce and enable eir in #ubuntu | 11:34 |
| topyli | looks like we're done then | 11:34 |
| topyli | #endmeeting | 11:35 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendar | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology is the new Mootbot https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Sat Aug 13 11:35:05 2011 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot . (v 0.1.4) | 11:35 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-13-11.03.moin.txt | 11:35 |
| elky | excellent | 11:35 |
| topyli | oh look, it did the change the topic | 11:35 |
| elky | can someone see if that topic changey business can be stopped for this channel? | 11:35 |
| topyli | i'll do the post-meeting stuff as per custom :) | 11:35 |
| elky | i suppose i should ping AlanBell for it. | 11:36 |
| elky | anyway, ciao | 11:36 |
| topyli | i don't know how bad that is anyway. the topic being discussion might as well be in the topic. why not? | 11:36 |
| tsimpson | I tend to agree | 11:37 |
| jussi | Its designed like that, and I kinda like it. It outs the old toopic back after the meeting | 11:37 |
| elky | i don't think it's quite appropriate for /this/ channel. | 11:37 |
| topyli | i also gasped a little at first, but since it does the right thing after the meeting... | 11:37 |
| jussi | If anything, it should prefix with which meeting is going on. | 11:37 |
| topyli | oh yes | 11:38 |
| topyli | anyway, got to go and finance wallet-losing wife's affairs, and mock her | 11:40 |
| tsimpson | topyli: and do the post-meeting tasks ;) | 11:41 |
| topyli | i'll get them done today :) | 11:41 |
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| AlanBell | the idea with the topic is it should attempt to change the /topic and if that doesn't work it should speak in the channel | 18:49 |
| AlanBell | at the moment it does both | 18:49 |
| AlanBell | so both is redundant and is a bug, I can stop it doing the /topic, but personally I would rather stop it talking | 18:50 |
| Mkaysi | AlanBell: Are there any channel for meetingology (development) ? :) | 18:50 |
| AlanBell | in general it should not say anything, unless it has something useful to say | 18:51 |
| AlanBell | #ubuntu-bots probably | 18:51 |
| AlanBell | or find me somewhere | 18:51 |
| Mkaysi | Ok | 18:52 |
| Mkaysi | But you aren't at #ubuntu-bots | 18:52 |
| AlanBell | I have a bad connection at the moment so culled my channel list to prevent annoying people | 18:53 |
| Mkaysi | Ok | 18:53 |
| AlanBell | elky: clearly opinion is divided on the /topic changing feature, would that be an IRC council agenda topic to decide? | 18:54 |
| AlanBell | and yes, it should prefix the meeting title, I think there might be some not-quite-implemented code to do exactly that | 18:58 |
| AlanBell | the code is all designed and debugged, all I have to do is type it in | 18:58 |
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