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TheHypnotistwer01:21
daubersMorning05:44
MartijnVdS\o daubers05:48
* daubers will be on his way to oggcamp in 10 minutes \o/05:48
MartijnVdS\o/05:48
* MartijnVdS wonders what this unknown Wifi device on his network is05:48
MartijnVdSIt's not my tablet, and not my phone.05:48
daubersheh05:49
MartijnVdSalso, my laptop is off05:49
MartijnVdSand my PSP, PS3, TV05:49
MartijnVdS"HTC", so it IS my phone05:52
daubers:)05:58
* daubers heads off to farnham!05:59
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MooDoomorning all07:53
dwatkinshi folk08:15
MooDoomorning08:18
TheOpenSourcerermorning08:20
ubuntuuk-planet[Paul Mellors] What i've done..... - http://paulmellors.blogspot.com/2011/08/what-ive-done.html09:16
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Myrttimy connectbot lags... meh09:26
Myrttianyway09:26
Myrttiwoo oggcamp \o/09:27
dwatkins   yay09:27
dwatkinsI trust it's all proceeding nicely.09:27
MyrttiWell, dsample just bought +50£ worth of OReilly books...09:28
Myrttiso, yes :-D09:28
* StevenR is jealous09:28
dwatkinsheh, I enjoy buying O'Reilly books too.09:28
StevenR(of oggcamp)09:28
MyrttiI wish I had better zoom in my camera09:37
MooDoo:)09:45
MooDoois ubuntu-uk closing today as everyone is at oggcamp :D10:08
MartijnVdSMooDoo: I'm not at oggcamp :(10:08
MartijnVdSI'll be at YAPC::EU next week though10:08
MooDooMartijnVdS: me neither :(  at work10:08
popey moo#10:11
MooDoomooooo10:11
mfraz74I'm not at oggcamp either10:12
Myrttimoomoo10:12
MooDoo:)10:12
bigcalm_lappy486Meeps10:15
bigcalm_lappy486popey: many hangovers there?10:16
Myrttiseems like it10:16
MooDoobigcalm_lappy486: oi get out your hotel ;)10:16
bigcalm_lappy486:P10:16
bigcalm_lappy486We need to go any get my car from AlanBell's place 1st10:17
MooDoobigcalm_lappy486: admit it, it's hayleys fault...she's taking too long in shower ;)10:17
* MartijnVdS installs MS Works(!)10:29
bigcalm_lappy486MartijnVdS: why would anybody want to use that oxymoron?10:30
MooDoosometimes it's all people have lol10:30
MartijnVdSbigcalm_lappy486: it came with the machine and I never  installed it before10:30
MartijnVdSbigcalm_lappy486: having a look at what it is/does/can do10:30
bigcalm_lappy486Wow10:30
bigcalm_lappy486Fair enough :)10:30
MartijnVdS(and what it can't do))10:31
MartijnVdSI know Works 2 from the DOS age10:31
MartijnVdShttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ms-works-2.0-dos.png10:31
bigcalm_lappy486My ubuntu laptop is tethered to my phone and it wants to do a system update10:33
bigcalm_lappy486Silly update manager10:33
MartijnVdSHah, the moment I'm done installing it needs 100M of updates10:33
* MooDoo installed oneric last night10:34
MartijnVdSMooDoo: did it immediately need 100M of updates as well? :P10:35
MooDooMartijnVdS: yeah :S10:35
MooDooyou can certainly tell it's alpha and i hate the new gwibber10:35
directhexgot the details through of my contract from orange retentions10:37
MontyMoosehello - any suggestions on why my ubuntu server won't install php-apc? I've got all the repositories enabled, I've done apt-get clean all / apt-get update etc - but everytime I do apt-get install php-apc it tells me the package is not found? Any support welcome thanks.12:34
MooDoodoes apt-cache search find it?12:38
brobostigonhttp://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/php-apc that is the corect package name.12:38
MontyMoosedon't think I've ever done a apt-cache search12:39
MontyMooselet me just google how you do it - 2 secs!12:39
brobostigonsuso apt-cache search packagename12:39
MooDooMontyMoose: sudo apt-cache search php-apc12:40
brobostigonsudo apt-cache search packagename12:40
MontyMoosewho needs google... - nope nothing found12:40
MooDoodo you have universe enabled?12:41
MontyMooseyup12:41
MooDooMontyMoose: which version server?12:41
brobostigonMontyMoose: could you pastebin your sources.list for us please.12:41
brobostigonlsb_release -a12:42
MontyMoosehttp://pastebin.com/vyU8ffsz12:42
MooDooah that's different12:42
MooDoohttp://www.mcdruid.co.uk/content/installing-apc-on-ubuntu-hardy-and-benchmarking-drupal-612:43
MooDoono php-apc in hardy12:43
MooDooas far as i'm aware12:43
brobostigon!info php-apc hardy12:43
lubotu3Package php-apc does not exist in hardy12:43
MontyMooseoh I see...12:43
brobostigonquite MooDoo12:43
MooDooyou need to add it through pecl12:43
MooDoolook at the link i sent, it tells you how to do it...quite simple12:44
MontyMooseI think I found that and tried it earlier - for some reason it still won't work... it says: The following packages have unmet dependencies.12:46
MooDoofunnily enough i've just installed xcache on my centos box :)12:46
MontyMooseit's after libssl-dev and libtool I think - is it worth me getting hold of those?12:47
MooDooif it wants it, you might as well12:47
MontyMoosethis is where I got stuck earlier... I try to install libc6-dev but it won't let me saying: libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.7-10ubuntu3) but 2.9-4ubuntu6 is to be installed12:49
MontyMooseI'll read through some more forums and stuff - thanks guys.12:56
bgeddyhi folks - anyone know if there is a live podcast from the Oggcamp later ? The schedule - http://oggcamp.org/schedule - says there is  but not where to listen.13:21
StevenRbgeddy: ubuntu uk podcast usual place then probably13:28
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bgeddyStevenR: thanks - I'll check it out later13:32
olyhi, can anyone tell me how you can send email from an aliased account in evolution ?14:43
mike /server irc.7chan.org15:17
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MooDooGuest28986: don't you mean /connect?15:19
davmor2MooDoo: me owld mucka15:24
MooDoooh that's right, say hi then quit.....pah!15:25
MooDoo;)15:25
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mgdmI realise this is probably the wrong channel, but... is there a way to easily obtain debug symbols for a package which doesn't ordinarily have them?17:10
mgdm(there's no libfreetype6-dbg package, sadly)17:10
mgdmOooh, disregard that, found them17:15
dwatkinslinux saves another day17:24
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* penguin42 yaaaawwwnnns17:37
jamesanslowcan anyone recommend a way of positively identifying a faulty PSU?17:56
HazRPGhmm, banshee is importing stuff twice?17:59
Bernhardhoi18:00
brobostigonevevning HazRPG :)18:00
* brobostigon is cooking beer curry.18:00
HazRPGjamesanslow: try putting it into a different computer and see what happens18:00
HazRPGjamesanslow: usually what I do18:00
HazRPGbrobostigon: hey dude :)18:00
brobostigonHazRPG: hows oggcamp?18:00
brobostigonbeef curry*18:01
HazRPGbrobostigon: didn't go :(18:01
brobostigonHazRPG: :( why?18:01
HazRPGbrobostigon: couldn't afford the trip down, and got some changes to do on a website before I'll get paid18:01
brobostigonHazRPG: ah, i see, ohwell.18:02
HazRPGbrobostigon: yup sucks :(18:02
brobostigonHazRPG: i am happy to a certain point i didnt go, as my eczema hasnt got any better, therefore wouldnt be nice, down there.18:03
penguin42brobostigon: <sigh> I know what you mean - I'm kind of glad it's got a few C cooler in the last week18:04
HazRPGbrobostigon: *hugs*18:05
HazRPGbrobostigon: my uncle gets eczema, so I can understand how much it sucks18:06
HazRPGhe tends to get it on his hands, and because he's an architect it can be a nightmare for him sometimes when he's doing his CAD stuff18:07
brobostigonpenguin42: agreed, the worst aboutt he heat, is sweat, i love the sun. but not the heat.18:07
* brobostigon hugs HazRPG 18:07
penguin42brobostigon: Yeh, I've been seeing a derm recently and he said if I actually lived somewhere sunny I'd have much less18:08
HazRPGI love the heat, but only if its dry heat... I can't stand humid heat >_<18:08
brobostigonHazRPG: i get it everywhere, including places you wouldnt mention. so it is very difficult.18:08
penguin42brobostigon: Yeh, those can be erm uncomfortable18:08
brobostigonpenguin42: agreed, the sun helps the skin regenaerate.18:09
HazRPGbrobostigon: ouch, that sucks dude :(18:09
brobostigonpenguin42: yes, umm, quite.18:09
penguin42HazRPG: Probably the wrong word :-)18:09
brobostigonjamesanslow: very, :(18:09
* penguin42 hands brobostigon the talc18:09
HazRPGpenguin42: indeed18:09
* brobostigon thanks penguin42 18:10
brobostigoni just messed up the rice to go with my curry, cooked it too much, it has gone mushy. :(18:10
HazRPGis there any other open-source stuff happening this year does anyone know?18:11
HazRPGI'm sure there's going to be a release party for ubuntu this year which I might attend (will start saving pennies for that!) but is there anything else?18:11
MartijnVdSHazRPG: you can organize Oggcam Cumbria ;)18:18
directhexjamesanslow: how faulty?18:24
* brobostigon returns with curry.18:25
directhexjamesanslow: bad voltages but otherwise bootable... configure lm_sensors, and use it to monitor your +12V line when running cpu and gpu-intensive tests18:25
ali1234my favourite broken PSU are the ones where you can hear them arcing inside and smell the ozone but they just keep on working anyway18:26
directhexali1234: "favourite"18:26
directhexif you smell magic smoke, you've already lost18:26
ali1234ozone smells completely different to magic smoke :)18:27
directhexyeah, magic smoke stinks18:27
brobostigonmagic smoke. interesting way of discribing it.18:27
directhexbrobostigon: if you can see/smell the magic smoke, it's broken. therefore the agic smoke is what makes it work - when the smoke escapes, it's dead18:28
brobostigondirecthex: yes, hmm.18:28
directhexthis is basic IT knowledge. magic smoke is what powers IT components18:29
brobostigoni knew aboutt he smoke, and the acring sounds etc, but never discribed like that.18:29
directhexhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_smoke#Joke18:30
brobostigonhmm, very weird.18:31
HazRPGdoes 11.04 not show the weather anymore?18:32
HazRPGthat's really frustrating for a muslim at this time of year (mainly because the weather applet showed the sunset/sunrise times when you hovered over the clock)18:32
brobostigonah, yes, understandable.18:33
HazRPGmy sister is trying to fast, and she can't figure out when its time to break it :P18:34
brobostigonHazRPG: may i suggest the bbc weather site, it has said figures.18:34
HazRPGbrobostigon: she prefers just being able to have it on her desktop, buts alright think I've found something to fix that18:35
HazRPG"sudo apt-get install indicator-weather" :)18:35
HazRPGlets see what happens18:35
HazRPGssh 192.168.0.1818:35
HazRPGoops18:35
brobostigon:)18:36
HazRPGapparently google lies...18:40
HazRPGusing google as the data source on that weather applet seems to think sunset is at 6pm... but its still light out...18:40
HazRPGyahoo seems to be accurate though :)18:41
HazRPG(also google seems to think its 17॰C)18:41
HazRPGsee this is the reason I hate 11.04 for anyone who's interested (too many inconsistencies): http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html18:42
HazRPGone shouldn't have to go through that massive list just to "fix" things18:42
* brobostigon decided to foboff the doortodoor slaes man that just came to his door, as brobostigon didnt want to talk.18:42
HazRPGbrobostigon: ^_^18:42
HazRPGI dislike door-to-door sales people :/18:43
HazRPGif I wanted to buy stuff, I'd go and seek out said people18:43
brobostigoni fobbed him off, by saying having to be here is more importent than talking to him.18:43
HazRPGbrobostigon: :)18:43
brobostigon:)18:43
penguin42If I wanted to buy something Google would tell me18:44
HazRPGI tend to just say "I'm sorry, I'm in a conference" - which isn't always a lie... since I'm always logged into mumble XD18:44
HazRPGpenguin42: my point exactly ^_^18:44
HazRPGpenguin42: I've been tempted to put a sign on my front door saying "I don't need a sales person selling me things, I use Google & the internet for said tasks... thank you all the same."18:45
brobostigonHazRPG: i said, i am sorry, i have a work meeting soon.18:45
HazRPGAlso been tempted to write "I'm muslim, so please don't tell me which religion I should be..." also, however the area I live in... that could get messy...18:46
brobostigoni tend to also keep a copy of darwins origin of species for certain occasions.18:47
brobostigonnext to the front door.18:47
HazRPGI love how religious types if you tell them any type of Christian then they try to convert you, but if you say Muslim, Buddist, etc they seem to just walk away...18:47
penguin42brobostigon: Indexed by subject?18:47
HazRPGbrobostigon: what's the weather, applets and such like on gnome3 like btw?18:48
brobostigonpenguin42: partly.18:48
MartijnVdSpartly cloudy? :P18:49
HazRPGMartijnVdS: :P18:49
brobostigonthere is an experimental one, that is within the calandar thingie.18:49
brobostigonHazRPG: there is an experimental one, that is within the calandar thingie.18:50
HazRPGbrobostigon: cool :)18:53
brobostigonHazRPG: i have seen pictures, not tried it.18:54
HazRPGI still can't believe there's like 3 pages or more of "fixes" just to get unity to behave itself18:54
HazRPGapparently LibreOffice doesn't use the global menu bar18:55
HazRPGand apparently some deb files shows up as being "...of bad quality"18:56
brobostigonHazRPG: in which case, by that theory, it would show all deb's here in debian unstable, as being "risky"18:57
MartijnVdSHazRPG: I just disable global menus entirely18:58
HazRPGMartijnVdS: I'm thinking of doing that on my sister's machine18:58
MartijnVdSI do that on every machine I get my hands on18:58
HazRPGshe's really bummed out about the close/min/max buttons too18:58
brobostigonHazRPG: gnome-shell's resonaing for changing that, ashould be significntly more logical.18:59
brobostigoncroprody, cant go, too expensive.19:00
HazRPGbrobostigon: hmm? I remember ubuntu saying that it was because they were going to use the right-hand side for other tasks... which I was actually looking forward to, but still haven't done yet :(19:00
ali1234they are going to use the space for windicators19:01
brobostigonHazRPG: yes, i remember that being said also.19:01
ali1234in other words, the stuff that they removed from the tray unnecessarily19:01
HazRPGali1234: Mark said that back in 2010 though...19:01
ali1234well they moved the buttons in 2010 as well...19:01
HazRPGwell yeah... but still nothing has come of that is what I mean ^_^19:02
brobostigonmind, there is no one i would want to watch a croprody his year, that even if, i was in good health,19:03
* brobostigon aplied for the oxfordshire autism alert card this afternoon.19:04
brobostigonapplied*19:04
penguin42what's that?19:04
brobostigonpenguin42: http://autismoxford.org.uk/index.php/alert-card19:05
penguin42ah ok19:07
HazRPGhmm, what's croprody?19:18
brobostigonHazRPG: it is a music festival held in croprody, by fairport convention.19:19
HazRPGah cool19:19
brobostigonthis weekend.19:19
* MartijnVdS has La Trappe Tripel19:38
* brobostigon has franziskaner.19:39
MartijnVdSWhich one?19:40
MartijnVdSWeissbier?19:40
brobostigonhefewezien, yes.19:41
brobostigonhefeweizen*19:41
mgdmOooh, nice.19:41
brobostigonMartijnVdS: helles, not dunkel.19:41
MartijnVdSI'm actually waiting for my brothers for finish another brew19:42
MartijnVdSthey do 40l batches of all kinds of beers19:42
ikonialong shot but any of you -uk guys have a wife/partner (or yourself) who is up on shoe shops in London19:42
ikonia(womens shoes)19:42
brobostigonMartijnVdS: cool, sounds good, :)19:43
MartijnVdSikonia: try @ladychatterley on twitter -- she knows (being http://nerinapallot.com/ :)19:43
MartijnVdSikonia: and yes, she responds to "the people" :)19:43
ikoniaMartijnVdS: I can't use twitter.....as the surprise will be ruined19:43
MartijnVdSikonia: good point19:43
ikoniaI know what I need but I've forgot the name of the specific shop19:44
MartijnVdSAs I don't have a gf/wife, AND I'm in London only once (maybe twice) a year, I can't help you19:44
ikoniaMartijnVdS: it's a total long shot19:44
MartijnVdSikonia: most London Ubuntu people will be at Oggcamp, or getting drunk afterwards19:45
ikoniaMartijnVdS: true19:47
* penguin42 suspects that's not an exclusive or19:48
MartijnVdSpenguin42: no, then I'd have said "xor" :)19:48
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DanielRMHello all.19:52
MartijnVdS\o DanielRM19:52
brobostigonhello DanielRM :)19:52
brobostigonDanielRM: an expeiment of mine, taylorworld.me.uk/ircstats.html stats for ##politics-uk19:53
DanielRMbrobostigon, so I saw. :-)19:54
brobostigon:)19:54
DanielRMHow is everyone?19:56
brobostigonDanielRM: 3.5/10, and my eczema isnt good, and you?19:57
DanielRMI'm fine thanks.19:58
brobostigon:)19:58
DanielRMLong day at work, but then it wouldn't be work if it wasn't. :P19:59
* brobostigon gets DanielRM a cold beer.19:59
DanielRMA hot tea would be more appropriate for me. ;-)20:00
brobostigonwhat kind of tea?20:00
DanielRMEarl Grey, milk, three sugars. :P20:01
DanielRMUm. Please.20:01
ali1234earl grey... with milk?20:01
* brobostigon puts the ketle on, and washes the tea pot out.20:01
* brobostigon puts loose tea in pot, and poours water over.20:02
DanielRMali1234, yes. Tastes lovely.20:02
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: same here20:02
* brobostigon gives the pot to DanielRM, with mug and a jugs of milk and sugar.20:02
ali1234i can drink tea with milk, or with sugar. but both is just horrlbe20:03
* brobostigon puts the kettle on again for MartijnVdS 20:03
MartijnVdSI can, but I prefer "straight" tea without additives20:03
DanielRMI like my tea quite sweet and light usually; I get most of the flavour through the smell anyway.20:03
MartijnVdSwell, green tea + lemon grass + lemon skin = win20:04
MartijnVdSDanielRM: you'll love the green tea they sell in my local tea specialty store :)20:04
* brobostigon pours water over tea, in pot for MartijnVdS, hands him the pot, a cup.20:04
MartijnVdSDanielRM: it's sweet & smells good without adding sugar20:04
DanielRMMartijnVdS, no, I have to stop you there. Green tea has to be plain, it's perfect as it is.20:04
* brobostigon gets both DanielRM and MartijnVdS loose tea sieves.20:04
HazRPGmmmm green tea :)20:05
MartijnVdSI have some mint growing here as well20:06
MartijnVdSfresh mint++20:06
HazRPGthe way the Japanese make it is fab :)20:06
HazRPGooo mint tea!20:06
HazRPGmint tea = good for sore stomach :)20:06
MartijnVdSI'm going to sleep.. need to leave for the airport (Riga!) in 12 hours20:07
* brobostigon has sweet tea, to compensate for having no milk, to sweeten.20:07
brobostigonnos da MartijnVdS, sleep well.20:07
HazRPGMartijnVdS: night dude :)20:08
HazRPGMartijnVdS: sweet dreams20:08
MartijnVdSyapceurope.lv :)20:08
MartijnVdSif anyone wants to come along ;)20:08
DanielRMMartijnVdS, sleep well.20:09
jamesanslowdirecthex: I talked to a friend and it seems OK. I think the problem may have been related to a faulty PCI card which may have been causing a power surge or spike on the mainboard.20:11
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brobostigongood night everyone. sleep well.21:41
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morganHey all what is the command needed to list all raw block devices and their capacity?23:06
morganunmounted block devices23:06
penguin42cat /proc/partitions is easiest23:10
penguin42udisks --dump    however will give you an infinite amount of information about each device23:10
morganthankyou23:11
popeyEvening23:27
morganstrange, proc/partitions showed the partition as 2.4tb but when i created the partition it was only 500gb23:27
penguin42? That's a bit of a difference!23:28
morganjust a little23:28
morganbut I know the latter is right because there is only a 1tb in the server at the moment23:29
penguin42pastebin your /proc/partitions?23:30
mgdmanyone got a CentOS/RHEL 5.x box kicking around they can check a version of something for me?23:31
mgdmnever mind23:33
HazRPGhmm23:45
HazRPGokay, got another 11.04 question for you all23:45
HazRPGsis has managed to break it like 5 times today already23:46
HazRPGwhen I questioned her about it just now after I heard her machine restart for the 5th time... she said "The stupid thing won't let me drag music from a folder to banshee"... I was like o.O23:46
HazRPGapparently she tried to do the same thing to MusicBrainz Picard too23:47
HazRPGwhat she was doing, was treating the unity bar as if it was a window list/taskbar23:47
HazRPGdoes the not like you dragging things to it?23:47
HazRPGthe unity bar*23:47
HazRPG<= numpty, obviously everyone is doing oggcamp stuff...23:48

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