[00:52] cyberanger u here [01:01] I'm here [01:01] lol [01:14] cyberanger: he was here 8 minutes that time so that's an improvement :) [01:15] perhaps [01:16] wow gotta go got a baby trying to crawl! [01:37] caught her [01:38] Wait 'til she runs... [01:39] I will shed a pound or two then Unit193 [01:44] oh wrst I updated arch and it all went smoothly [01:44] wrst: wait, trying to crawl, why bother getting up [01:44] cool chris4585 I'm not too surprised it seems as though that have all that easy peasy now [01:44] now if she suceeds, there's some reason to move ;-) [01:44] and chris4585 btw trying out gnome 3/shell on onercic its not bad still not as good as vanilla gnome shell but getting there [01:45] cyberanger: its what is she going to crawl into [01:46] wrst, well thats good, I gave up on alpha ubuntu because I couldn't use gnome shell because nvidia wasn't updated so meh [01:46] wrst: so she was suceeding, yeah, crawling into danger, better than running headfirst into it, but only by so much [01:47] cyberanger: the running will be soon enough! [01:47] once arch is setup correctly I find it amazingly simple to keep up [01:47] yeah chris4585 the packages are still a little stale on gnome shell, gnome tweak tool for instance is much better now than the version ubuntu has [01:48] ah I used git on ubuntu [01:51] yeah I will be interested to see how the final unity is based on gtk3 and how gnome shell gets along with ubuntu [01:51] chris4585: if it does ok ubuntu might gain a partition back on my laptop that gets used [01:52] currently I have mint on my laptop, I just didn't feel like setting anything up on there [01:52] but yeah I wanna see the latest unity, but don't really want to use it, gnome-shell is just so lovely [01:53] wrst: I think the day that happens again, is the day they fix other issues too [01:53] chris4585: i run arch on my laptop and don't see it not being my main distro for some time, i also have mint, ubuntu onercic chakra and win 7 [01:53] lubuntu & documentation improvements could be enough for considering it [01:53] cyberanger: yeah for a desktop distro arch if you have time is just far superior, once set up :) [01:53] wrst: and if you don't have time, crunchbang or debian (gnome or lxde) [01:54] documentation is huge cyberanger, after using a distro with good docs its hard to go back [01:54] cyberanger: I can get arch going as quick as debian just about by the time I get finished tweaking [01:54] exactly, only habits can be a tradeoff [01:54] you know I'll be honest, documentation on ubuntu just seems lacking and very outdated most of the time [01:55] and I've used debian-based systems so much, and debian & mint & detail-focused bloggers make up for alot [01:55] someone might say ppa's are a strong point but compared to arch's aur its far better IMO [01:55] I think ppa's suck :/ [01:56] with the habits & asking the right person on IRC, debian does win in alot of places [01:56] chris4585: yeah, documentation was better when I first started using ubuntu, which is what alot of the current stuff is dated too [01:56] 05 & 06 [01:57] definately outdated now [02:06] chris4585: i agree the aur is better its just easier [02:07] granted the ppa's probably are slightly more "secure" i suppose [02:07] maybe [02:07] not really [02:17] ppa's seem like a hassle to me... annoying to find one, annoying to search, and add one, just ugh [02:35] seem like a hassle to me too, but then again, can't recall the last time I used one [08:39] o/ [08:40] Howdy [16:56] HI [16:59] Howdy, only a few late ;) [17:01] what can I say, I've got time to work on some intresting projects, got wrapped up in one [17:03] making a live disc with very little on it, mainly a vpn server [17:04] gonna leave it in a desktop here, when I head to arkansas, tell the computer to automaticlly reboot if there is power loss & at 6am [17:05] just the hard part is trying to optimize squid for a system with no hdd and all ram is completely different from how I've optimized it before, favoring a few gigs in hdd space [17:06] anyone else done something like this?