[00:52] <linuxman410> cyberanger u here
[01:01] <cyberanger> I'm here
[01:01] <cyberanger> lol
[01:14] <wrst> cyberanger:  he was here 8 minutes that time so that's an improvement :)
[01:15] <cyberanger> perhaps
[01:16] <wrst> wow gotta go got a baby trying to crawl!
[01:37] <wrst> caught her
[01:38] <Unit193> Wait 'til she runs...
[01:39] <wrst> I will shed a pound or two then Unit193
[01:44] <chris4585> oh wrst I updated arch and it all went smoothly
[01:44] <cyberanger> wrst: wait, trying to crawl, why bother getting up
[01:44] <wrst> cool chris4585 I'm not too surprised it seems as though that have all that easy peasy now
[01:44] <cyberanger> now if she suceeds, there's some reason to move ;-)
[01:44] <wrst> and chris4585 btw trying out gnome 3/shell on onercic its not bad still not as good as vanilla gnome shell but getting there
[01:45] <wrst> cyberanger: its what is she going to crawl into
[01:46] <chris4585> wrst, well thats good, I gave up on alpha ubuntu because I couldn't use gnome shell because nvidia wasn't updated so meh
[01:46] <cyberanger> wrst: so she was suceeding, yeah, crawling into danger, better than running headfirst into it, but only by so much
[01:47] <wrst> cyberanger:  the running will be soon enough!
[01:47] <chris4585> once arch is setup correctly I find it amazingly simple to keep up
[01:47] <wrst> yeah chris4585 the packages  are still a little stale on gnome shell, gnome tweak tool for instance is much better now than the version ubuntu has
[01:48] <chris4585> ah I used git on ubuntu
[01:51] <wrst> yeah I will be interested to see how the final unity is based on gtk3 and how gnome shell gets along with ubuntu
[01:51] <wrst> chris4585: if it does ok ubuntu might gain a partition back on my laptop that gets used
[01:52] <chris4585> currently I have mint on my laptop, I just didn't feel like setting anything up on there
[01:52] <chris4585> but yeah I wanna see the latest unity, but don't really want to use it, gnome-shell is just so lovely
[01:53] <cyberanger> wrst: I think the day that happens again, is the day they fix other issues too
[01:53] <wrst> chris4585: i run arch on my laptop and don't see it not being my main distro for some time, i also have mint, ubuntu onercic chakra and win 7
[01:53] <cyberanger> lubuntu & documentation improvements could be enough for considering it
[01:53] <wrst> cyberanger: yeah for a desktop distro arch if you have time is just far superior, once set up :)
[01:53] <cyberanger> wrst: and if you don't have time, crunchbang or debian (gnome or lxde)
[01:54] <wrst> documentation is huge cyberanger, after using a distro with good docs its hard to go back
[01:54] <wrst> cyberanger: I can get arch going as quick as debian just about by the time I get finished tweaking
[01:54] <cyberanger> exactly, only habits can be a tradeoff
[01:54] <chris4585> you know I'll be honest, documentation on ubuntu just seems lacking and very outdated most of the time
[01:55] <cyberanger> and I've used debian-based systems so much, and debian & mint & detail-focused bloggers make up for alot
[01:55] <chris4585> someone might say ppa's are a strong point but compared to arch's aur its far better IMO
[01:55] <chris4585> I think ppa's suck :/
[01:56] <cyberanger> with the habits & asking the right person on IRC, debian does win in alot of places
[01:56] <cyberanger> chris4585: yeah, documentation was better when I first started using ubuntu, which is what alot of the current stuff is dated too
[01:56] <cyberanger> 05 & 06
[01:57] <cyberanger> definately outdated now
[02:06] <wrst> chris4585: i agree the aur is better its just easier
[02:07] <wrst> granted the ppa's probably are slightly more "secure" i suppose
[02:07] <wrst> maybe
[02:07] <wrst> not really
[02:17] <chris4585> ppa's seem like a hassle to me... annoying to find one, annoying to search, and add one, just ugh
[02:35] <cyberanger> seem like a hassle to me too, but then again, can't recall the last time I used one
[08:39] <vychune> o/
[08:40] <Unit193> Howdy
[16:56] <cyberanger> HI
[16:59] <Unit193> Howdy, only a few late ;)
[17:01] <cyberanger> what can I say, I've got time to work on some intresting projects, got wrapped up in one
[17:03] <cyberanger> making a live disc with very little on it, mainly a vpn server
[17:04] <cyberanger> gonna leave it in a desktop here, when I head to arkansas, tell the computer to automaticlly reboot if there is power loss & at 6am
[17:05] <cyberanger> just the hard part is trying to optimize squid for a system with no hdd and all ram is completely different from how I've optimized it before, favoring a few gigs in hdd space
[17:06] <cyberanger> anyone else done something like this?