| khoover | hey, anyone have a good way to explain FOSS to a luddite? | 00:26 |
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| khoover | dscassel: cassel, if you can come up with a good way to do so, i'll praise you as a god. just give me some examples of what you've done. | 00:29 |
| dscassel | What sort of luddite? | 00:37 |
| dscassel | Knowing your audience is important. | 00:38 |
| khoover | sorry, technologically illiterate | 00:38 |
| dscassel | If they're left-leaning and anti-corporate, I'd probably launch into a spiel about the four freedoms. | 00:38 |
| dscassel | If they're a talk-radio-listening conservative, it gets a bit harder. | 00:38 |
| khoover | and you have a winner on the first one | 00:38 |
| khoover | going into university for environmental law/politics, forget which. | 00:39 |
| khoover | politics, nvm | 00:39 |
| khoover | enviro politics* | 00:39 |
| dscassel | Great! Free software (and stick to free software) allows you to put your work out there for others to use, learn from or adapt to their needs. | 00:40 |
| dscassel | As a user, it means nobody can ever take some program you've come to rely on away from you. Even if a company goes away or kills the product, someone else can come along and build on their work, so you can keep using it. | 00:41 |
| dscassel | It relies on a community of people working together to make the sort of software *they* want to use, not just what will sell. | 00:41 |
| khoover | i'm just gonna use that verbatim, seems much easier than rephrasing. | 00:42 |
| dscassel | Good luck. :) | 00:44 |
| khoover | so, exactly which pitch shall i instruct the choir to sing today? | 00:45 |
| khoover | for your praises. | 00:45 |
| dscassel | Get them to drop by my wiki page and give a testimonial and I'll be happy. :) | 00:45 |
| dscassel | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/dscassel | 00:45 |
| khoover | ...i dunno what to say, though. | 00:46 |
| dscassel | "He's helpful on IRC" is a good start. DOesn't have to be much. | 00:47 |
| khoover | now to create a login. | 00:47 |
| dscassel | Thanks. :) | 00:47 |
| khoover | oh, planning on finally setting ubuntu up on an external hard drive, containing my music in an NTFS partition. how can i keep my music safe (don't have enough storage space lying around to just ctrl+c ctrl+v) while reformatting? | 00:52 |
| dscassel | Ick. Um, making a backup is a good idea. Maybe on store it temporarily on Amazon s3. Cheap, but it'll take a few days to upload. | 01:00 |
| dscassel | (Bandwith caps aside... :/ ) | 01:00 |
| dscassel | If you don't mind only a slight chance of losing everything, though, using GParted to resize the NTFS partitiion doesn't *usually* cause problems. | 01:01 |
| dscassel | And the Ubuntu installer will do it automatically. | 01:02 |
| khoover | and, Ubuntu runs perfectly fine with NTFS? | 01:02 |
| dscassel | I really like having a backup though. | 01:02 |
| dscassel | Well, no, you'd resize the NTFS partition so you have room for Ubuntu partitions. | 01:02 |
| dscassel | Oh! You can use Wubi. | 01:03 |
| dscassel | No repartitioning necessary. Just run the Windows installer on the Ubuntu CD. | 01:03 |
| dscassel | It'll create a virtual disk file in your Windows partition and you can boot into that. | 01:03 |
| dscassel | Not exactly ideal if you want to do much more than trying things out, but you can always copy stuff over if you eventually get a drive specifially for Ubuntu (or decide to risk partitioning. | 01:04 |
| khoover | oooooog. was bout to ask what it really meant. | 01:05 |
| khoover | oooooooh* | 01:05 |
| khoover | well, it's commited | 01:11 |
| dscassel | Cool, thanks. :D | 01:12 |
| khoover | yo no hablas wiki-syntax. | 01:16 |
| dscassel | Doesn't help that moin moin wiki syntax is different enough from mediawiki to be confusing if you have to switch between the two. :P | 01:17 |
| khoover | yeah, no tilde-comments. =( | 01:21 |
| khoover | looking for new ISP, anyone have suggestions? | 02:18 |
| khoover | this is in toronto, so, no shaw. | 02:20 |
| khoover | I have an idea for what will become an IRC meme, if done. | 02:26 |
| khoover | it involves creating many, many bots, to emulate a cattle herd going through. Each bot will be named cow#, going sequentially, with a rancher named Pablo keeping them in check. | 02:26 |
| khoover | they will join various channels across various servers, and proceed to act as a herd of cows and a rancher would. They would then leave, and travel to the next, never stopping, never ending. | 02:26 |
| khoover | WHO'S WITH ME? | 02:26 |
| khoover | such overwhelming response | 02:29 |
| dscassel | Techsavvy. | 02:59 |
| * dscassel is packing for a Montreal trip in a week... | 03:00 | |
| khoover | have fun, friend of mine's there already. | 03:01 |
| dscassel | Make pablo an eliza-style bot who replies only in broken Spanish and I think you have a winner on your hands. | 03:01 |
| khoover | and i figured as much | 03:01 |
| dscassel | The cows, of course, reply only with "Moo." | 03:02 |
| khoover | the cows just go /me moo, not even moo | 03:02 |
| khoover | and you grasped pablo's essence right there. all we have to do is figure out how to make them all pick the same server/channel combo, and we're good. | 03:03 |
| khoover | we may have offended the taco. | 03:16 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:04 |
| willwh | howdy | 20:09 |
| willwh | :) | 20:09 |
| billybigrigger | hey all anyone here running gnome3.0 yet from the ppa? | 20:48 |
| khoover | oh, if i want to use xfce instead of gnome, how would i go about doing that? | 22:21 |
| willwh | khoover: easy :) | 23:24 |
| willwh | I *just* made the switch, I use xfce with debian, on my laptop | 23:24 |
| willwh | but my desktop OS is ubuntu 11.04 | 23:24 |
| willwh | khoover: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop | 23:25 |
| willwh | :] | 23:25 |
| willwh | sorry | 23:25 |
| willwh | xubuntu-desktop | 23:25 |
| willwh | then - when you're logging in, make sure you set the session to "Xubuntu" '] | 23:25 |
| khoover | any way to drop just the gnome desktop after, w/o losing the tookit? | 23:25 |
| khoover | toolkit* | 23:26 |
| willwh | you mean remove the gnome libraries? | 23:26 |
| khoover | eh...sure. i'm probably thinking of gnome as an app is the problem. | 23:27 |
| willwh | I wouldn't bother removing it | 23:28 |
| willwh | unless you are really low on space | 23:28 |
| willwh | probably a bunch of the stuff you have installed needs them | 23:28 |
| khoover | ah, bugger. | 23:32 |
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