=== sagaci_ is now known as sagaci === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === berlinlogger is now known as ulmlogger [19:11] jtaylor: poke. when are you going to apply for MOTU? [19:17] you think I'm ready for that? [19:17] I'm just involved a couple of month [19:21] 6 months is the minimum, but you are doing good work and are well involved in the community around here [19:22] s/minimum/stated recommended minimum/ [19:26] I was planning on applying for dm when I ahve my 6 month, I'll also apply for motu then if you recommend it [19:27] jtaylor: tumbleweed +1, you've definitely have the community involvement and minimum time and good packaging work [19:28] * tumbleweed reckons you could go straight for MOTU, although the DMB recommends going via contributing developer [19:28] no need to go for contributing developer unless you feel the need to hone your packaging skills more first [19:32] * jtaylor reading application process [19:36] jtaylor, i don't advocate for DM, fwiw. someone's good enough for DD, or not good enough for DM, IMHO. [19:42] no [19:42] well I don't recommend that anyway [19:42] (UCD) [19:49] hm ucd seems just like an aknowldgement of my current status [19:50] so I could skip that [19:50] jtaylor: it's mainly for people that have been contributing to development, have sustained effort, but aren't there yet with the packaging skills [19:52] not necessarily, it's just a way of getting membership [19:52] micahg, that seems wholly inappropriate in this case [19:52] directhex: agreed [19:53] Laney: ubuntu-dev grants membership as well, if the skills + contribution are there, a person can go for at least PPU [19:53] I know [19:53] people can go for whatever they want though [19:53] I know you know :) [19:57] anyway, jtaylor has the packaging skills, deserves membership, and can probably get good endorsements from a few people in this conversation :) [19:59] thx for your advice, I'll look into applying next week [20:04] Laney: as it happens ...I picked up a leadlet about bikes on trains in Germany. In the UK Brompton sponsor+publish a very good "bikes on trains" leaflet (which helpful points out that through the myriad of restrictions, Bromptons /are/ allowed on all services in the UK [20:10] sladen: oh, that sounds useful. If only Bromptons were something you'd want to take on a bike tour [20:11] probably 50ish miles per day + carrying camping kit, perhaps not [20:21] hm bug 823009 now needs an ffe as it wasn't confirmed before the freeze or? [20:21] Launchpad bug 823009 in argparse (Ubuntu) "Sync argparse 1.2.1-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/823009 [20:24] jtaylor: it should probably have an FFe request, yes. Which means an explanation for the necessity of the sync [20:25] it is a bit problematic [20:25] the version we have, or the one you want to sync to? [20:25] the sync will likely introduce an upgrade failure, I spoke with barry about it and he prefers to jsut break it instead of adding a delta [20:26] what do we gain from doing the sync now, and not in p? [20:26] not causing this upgrade failure? [20:27] if we only sync in p we have to add a delta for the general users, if we sync now we can just tell the alpha testers how to fix it manually [20:27] the delta is a pretty ugly preinst [20:27] jtaylor: why not add the delta and sync again in P? [20:27] oh :( [20:28] ne the delta would ahve to be added to the version in debian [20:28] jtaylor: the reason for the sync sounds valid. I'd prepare the FFe request (I won't be able to grant it, it's in main, but there is no FFe queue atm) [20:29] s/I'd/Go ahead and/ [20:36] Laney: very well suited to the task. I did 20km in an <1 hour to get the ferry earlier this afternoon. I had camping kit (eg. stove, sleeping bag) aswell as the usual assortment of Debian kits and the like [20:37] Laney: low centre of gravity and a luggage system that doesn't throw the weight of the bike sideways when you go around a corner++ [20:42] tumbleweed: we can't do main FFes? I wasn't aware of that. [20:42] I thought everyone did everything. [20:42] sladen: I ought to try one really [20:44] Laney: err I know we're there for universe, I assumed that meant we shouldn't do main [20:45] I just thought we were extra bodies, but maybe we'd pick universe stuff over main if there's a choice [20:46] Laney: fair enough. it's not like there's motu-release any more [20:53] indeed, that's part of the point I think :-) === yofel_ is now known as yofel === ximion2 is now known as ximion === ximion is now known as ximion2