[00:00] boom, there goes power [00:00] thank you battery backup! [00:00] and laptops with extended battery power [01:25] Crap, and no power sucks [02:25] TeamXlink: you (or students) do not have any first ammendment rights when using someone else's network. youd 'lose the argument in court VERY quickly [02:25] Oh. [02:25] Wait, what argument? [02:27] The comments about the internet usage policy and what not [02:27] Weren't related too the questions: [02:28] [16:50:18] How far could you get based on the argument, by signing a document that is mandatory for attending a *public school*, you are signing your constitiutonsl freedoms away? [02:28] [16:50:24] Assuming the student is 18, (Or else rights are really vague) [02:28] [16:52:39] TeamXlink: I have no clue [02:29] oh, what are you signing then? [02:31] Oh, hmmmm [02:31] hold on [02:31] Let me browse my logs again. [02:32] I can't find the part of the log where I was talking about the internet usage policy. [02:33] I think it might have been not saved when I unplugged my pc. [14:48] Good morning [14:48] Off to do the grocery shopping. [16:56] devinheitmueller: ping [16:56] hello [16:56] rick_h_: pong [16:56] hey, need a favor, I picked up an HD antenna, but I need to help find a good place for it in the house [16:56] I'm thinking of getting a usb tv tuner for the laptop [16:56] and I can test it up stairs/down, etc [16:57] suggestions for one that should work ok? [16:57] You interested in digital or analog support? [16:57] running arch linux on 3.0 [16:57] I want to test if I can get ota HD for the tv [16:57] so digital [16:57] The HVR-950q is pretty good for that. [16:57] ... and it's well supported in 3.0 [16:57] I don't know about Arch, but Ubuntu ships with the firmware. [16:57] ok cool [16:57] (if not, you can download it from kernellabs) [16:58] and any boostrapping of the software side I'll need to scan/test channels? [16:58] No, just need to install the firmware, and install whatever packages provides "scan" [16:58] (typically /usr/bin/scan) [16:58] ok [16:59] This wiki article explains the process pretty well, although nothing there is specific to the 950q: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Talk:Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-950Q [16:59] yea, I figured step 1 was working hardware and then most software should work regardless [17:00] Correct. Essentially all drivers implement a common interface which is used by applications such as Kaffeine, tvtime, and MythTV. [17:00] On second thought, this article is probably a bit better: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Talk:OnAir_USB_HDTV_Creator [17:00] awesome [17:01] (use ^ article instead of the 950q article I referenced earlier) [17:01] you back in town? [17:01] Yeah, got back in Wednesday night (but too late for CHC) [17:02] ah, cool. Well I'll bring the gear to CHC and if I get stuck I'll bug you :) [17:02] thanks for the guidance on it [17:02] no problem. [17:02] Your "out of the box" experience should be pretty good as long as you have the firmware installed [17:02] (if not, you will see an error along the lines of "xc5000-1.4 firmware not found" in the dmesg log. [17:03] ivtv-utils is the only package that references hauppuage, so installed that just in case [17:04] Most packages won't reference a specific vendor. [17:04] k [17:04] ivtv-utils though is a good package to have if you're going to do any work related to analog, since it contains the "v4l2-ctl" tool that lets you query the device. [17:04] gotcha, cool [17:04] You probably need a package along the lines of "dvb-utils" (or something named along those lines) [17:05] libdvbpsi linuxtv-dvb-apps me-tv [17:05] come up with a dvb search [17:06] Yeah, probably linuxtv-dvb-apps you want. [17:06] me-tv is a tv watching application, and libdvbpsi is a library. [17:42] snap-l: ping [17:51] rick_h_: poing [17:51] hey, so thinking of checkout out this caribou with the meeting room [17:51] how was it? [17:51] any kind of board/anything in there? [17:51] It was pretty nice. [17:51] There's a board, a TV, and a round table in there [17:52] hmmm, cool. [17:52] Costs $25 in a gift card, which you can use for coffee, or anything in the store [17:52] did you check if there was a meeting cost or anything with it? [17:52] ah, ok cool [17:52] so, not free, but definitely amortizable. [17:52] rick_h_: You got power back, I'm assuming. :) [17:53] yea, and gives me some thinking of the whole idea of something more meeting like sometimes [17:53] heh yea [17:53] around 3am [17:53] so out for about 7:30-3am [17:53] rick_h_: Yeah, not sure if it would work for CHC, but I'm keepingit in the back of my brain for jams, MUG-like meetings, etc. [17:53] rick_h_: Ugh. Glad it's back though [17:54] why not for CHC? [17:54] well, since we've been there for a while.... [17:54] But yeah, if they're full, or something like that [17:54] well, I was thinking if it worked out just might make the migration [17:55] to have promised space, the ability to do some more 'class-like' things [17:55] Yeah, that might be neat. [17:55] get my hands on a projector and would be pretty cool, start up something east side python meeting or something [17:55] I've always thought of doing something like the web dev meeting or python group out here [17:56] maybe I'll head down in a bit then and check it out. Work from there for a bit [17:56] lmk if you do. Wouldn't mind meeting up [17:57] k, will check with the wife here in a sec. [17:57] thanks for the heads up, got the gears going lol [17:57] np [18:00] cool, ok going to pack up and head down [18:00] snap-l: ^^ so if you're free meet you down there, if not I'll hang out and chat with them down there [18:02] Sure. Are you doing work there, or just bopping in / bopping out/ [18:02] ? [18:05] rick_h_: ^^ [18:54] snap-l: going to hang out fora few [18:54] taking some time for her to get the schedule straight and have time to kill until dinner [19:17] snap-l _stink_ Blazeix waldo323_ widox devinheitmueller if CHC was moved to here would you stop coming? http://goo.gl/yCQqt [19:17] rick_h_: probably not. It's only a couple miles further than I go anyway. [19:18] (and I'm only here for another four weeks anyway) [19:18] devinheitmueller: cool, thanks [19:18] won't be this week, butmight start week after, 24th or whatever [19:18] they have a meeting room I can get I'm working on trying to get for a while out [19:18] Nice. [19:19] yea, think it's worththe slight extra distance [19:37] WEll there goes my thoughts of ever walking to CHC. ;) [19:38] rick_h_: nope, I'd still go. [19:42] Blazeix: awesome, thanks [19:46] rick_h_: are you there now? [19:49] Yeah, we're here now [19:51] devinheitmueller: yea, checked it out today [19:51] working on getting it reserved [19:52] I need some coffee. Will swing by for a few minutes. [19:53] cool [19:56] rick_h_: um, I'd still go [19:56] its about a 5min diff for me [19:57] widox: awesome [19:57] like how the street view is from dream cruise time [19:57] oh yea? hah [19:57] tons of 9ld cards [19:57] how many people can you get in the room? [19:59] widox: we could probably get up to 18ish if we did some org [19:59] by default it's 10 I think [19:59] there are two big tables put side v side [20:00] plenty of power, a whiteboard with markers [20:00] honestly, htinkig long term we might be able to do some python/webdev group meetings type material here [20:00] there's room to get double digit people in fora talk [20:00] but we'll see [20:21] sweet [21:16] Good afternoon. [22:32] geekers [22:34] i'm working with someone on a python project, his first. he rejected bitbucket because he didn't like the privacy policy, so i emailed the file back to him with my changes. he disregarded them all and made a bunch of changes [22:39] his major changes were to add comments, remove argparse in favor of self-parsed arguments, and add () in each if statement and print statement [22:54] <_stink_> hah [22:54] <_stink_> awesome [22:55] brousch1: Why are you working with this person? [23:01] side project [23:02] he wanted to do the tricky part [23:02] interesting. i didn't think print() worked in python 2.5 [23:03] he's a smart kid. i just need to slap him with the pep8 snake a little more [23:32] brousch1: yea, print() has worked for a while [23:32] just not mandatory like it is in 3.x [23:32] and sucky with the whole bitbucket/etc crap [23:40] Does anyone know what time hungry howies or little ceasers closes on sunday? [23:40] Are they closed do you think? [23:41] Why would you want to eat greasy cardboard topped with vomit? [23:41] I'd guess you'd have to call/look them up online [23:42] papa johns is the best chain pizza. get it extra sauce and well done [23:42] their online ordering r0x [23:52] prefer Jets, personlly [23:58] ./me prefers non chain pizza...................... [23:59] ./me prefers pizza from GR Pizza or Cherery Valley Pizzeria. [23:59] ./me can't get that pizza anymore.