[00:00] <rick_h_> boom, there goes power
[00:00] <rick_h_> thank you battery backup!
[00:00] <rick_h_> and laptops with extended battery power
[01:25] <rick_h_droid> Crap, and no power sucks
[02:25] <jrwren> TeamXlink: you (or students) do not have any first ammendment rights when using someone else's network. youd 'lose the argument in court VERY quickly
[02:25] <TeamXlink> Oh.
[02:25] <TeamXlink> Wait, what argument?
[02:27] <TeamXlink> The comments about the internet usage policy and what not
[02:27] <TeamXlink> Weren't related too the questions:
[02:28] <TeamXlink> [16:50:18] <TeamXlink> How far could you get based on the argument, by signing a document that is mandatory for attending a *public school*, you are signing your constitiutonsl freedoms away?
[02:28] <TeamXlink> [16:50:24] <TeamXlink> Assuming the student is 18, (Or else rights are really vague)
[02:28] <TeamXlink> [16:52:39] <snap-l> TeamXlink: I have no clue
[02:29] <jrwren> oh, what are you signing then?
[02:31] <TeamXlink> Oh, hmmmm
[02:31] <TeamXlink> hold on
[02:31] <TeamXlink> Let me browse my logs again.
[02:32] <TeamXlink> I can't find the part of the log where I was talking about the internet usage policy.
[02:33] <TeamXlink> I think it might have been not saved when I unplugged my pc.
[14:48] <snap-l> Good morning
[14:48] <snap-l> Off to do the grocery shopping.
[16:56] <rick_h_> devinheitmueller: ping
[16:56] <devinheitmueller> hello
[16:56] <devinheitmueller> rick_h_: pong
[16:56] <rick_h_> hey, need a favor, I picked up an HD antenna, but I need to help find a good place for it in the house
[16:56] <rick_h_> I'm thinking of getting a usb tv tuner for the laptop
[16:56] <rick_h_> and I can test it up stairs/down, etc
[16:57] <rick_h_> suggestions for one that should work ok?
[16:57] <devinheitmueller> You interested in digital or analog support?
[16:57] <rick_h_> running arch linux on 3.0
[16:57] <rick_h_> I want to test if I can get ota HD for the tv
[16:57] <rick_h_> so digital
[16:57] <devinheitmueller> The HVR-950q is pretty good for that.
[16:57] <devinheitmueller> ... and it's well supported in 3.0
[16:57] <devinheitmueller> I don't know about Arch, but Ubuntu ships with the firmware.
[16:57] <rick_h_> ok cool
[16:57] <devinheitmueller> (if not, you can download it from kernellabs)
[16:58] <rick_h_> and any boostrapping of the software side I'll need to scan/test channels?
[16:58] <devinheitmueller> No, just need to install the firmware, and install whatever packages provides "scan"
[16:58] <devinheitmueller> (typically /usr/bin/scan)
[16:58] <rick_h_> ok
[16:59] <devinheitmueller> This wiki article explains the process pretty well, although nothing there is specific to the 950q:  http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Talk:Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-950Q
[16:59] <rick_h_> yea, I figured step 1 was working hardware and then most software should work regardless
[17:00] <devinheitmueller> Correct.  Essentially all drivers implement a common interface which is used by applications such as Kaffeine, tvtime, and MythTV.
[17:00] <devinheitmueller> On second thought, this article is probably a bit better:  http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Talk:OnAir_USB_HDTV_Creator
[17:00] <rick_h_> awesome
[17:01] <devinheitmueller> (use ^ article instead of the 950q article I referenced earlier)
[17:01] <rick_h_> you back in town?
[17:01] <devinheitmueller> Yeah, got back in Wednesday night (but too late for CHC)
[17:02] <rick_h_> ah, cool. Well I'll bring the gear to CHC and if I get stuck I'll bug you :)
[17:02] <rick_h_> thanks for the guidance on it
[17:02] <devinheitmueller> no problem.
[17:02] <devinheitmueller> Your "out of the box" experience should be pretty good as long as you have the firmware installed
[17:02] <devinheitmueller> (if not, you will see an error along the lines of "xc5000-1.4 firmware not found" in the dmesg log.
[17:03] <rick_h_> ivtv-utils is the only package that references hauppuage, so installed that just in case
[17:04] <devinheitmueller> Most packages won't reference a specific vendor.
[17:04] <rick_h_> k
[17:04] <devinheitmueller> ivtv-utils though is a good package to have if you're going to do any work related to analog, since it contains the "v4l2-ctl" tool that lets you query the device.
[17:04] <rick_h_> gotcha, cool
[17:04] <devinheitmueller> You probably need a package along the lines of "dvb-utils" (or something named along those lines)
[17:05] <rick_h_> libdvbpsi linuxtv-dvb-apps me-tv
[17:05] <rick_h_> come up with a dvb search
[17:06] <devinheitmueller> Yeah, probably linuxtv-dvb-apps you want.
[17:06] <devinheitmueller> me-tv is a tv watching application, and libdvbpsi is a library.
[17:42] <rick_h_> snap-l: ping
[17:51] <snap-l> rick_h_: poing
[17:51] <rick_h_> hey, so thinking of checkout out this caribou with the meeting room
[17:51] <rick_h_> how was it?
[17:51] <rick_h_> any kind of board/anything in there?
[17:51] <snap-l> It was pretty nice.
[17:51] <snap-l> There's a board, a TV, and a round table in there
[17:52] <rick_h_> hmmm, cool.
[17:52] <snap-l> Costs $25 in a gift card, which you can use for coffee, or anything in the store
[17:52] <rick_h_> did you check if there was a meeting cost or anything with it?
[17:52] <rick_h_> ah, ok cool
[17:52] <snap-l> so, not free, but definitely amortizable.
[17:52] <snap-l> rick_h_: You got power back, I'm assuming. :)
[17:53] <rick_h_> yea, and gives me some thinking of the whole idea of something more meeting like sometimes
[17:53] <rick_h_> heh yea
[17:53] <rick_h_> around 3am
[17:53] <rick_h_> so out for about 7:30-3am
[17:53] <snap-l> rick_h_: Yeah, not sure if it would work for CHC, but I'm keepingit in the back of my brain for jams, MUG-like meetings, etc.
[17:53] <snap-l> rick_h_: Ugh. Glad it's back though
[17:54] <rick_h_> why not for CHC?
[17:54] <snap-l> well, since we've been there for a while....
[17:54] <snap-l> But yeah, if they're full, or something like that
[17:54] <rick_h_> well, I was thinking if it worked out just might make the migration
[17:55] <rick_h_> to have promised space, the ability to do some more 'class-like' things
[17:55] <snap-l> Yeah, that might be neat.
[17:55] <rick_h_> get my hands on a projector and would be pretty cool, start up something east side python meeting or something
[17:55] <rick_h_> I've always thought of doing something like the web dev meeting or python group out here
[17:56] <rick_h_> maybe I'll head down in a bit then and check it out. Work from there for a bit
[17:56] <snap-l> lmk if you do. Wouldn't mind meeting up
[17:57] <rick_h_> k, will check with the wife here in a sec.
[17:57] <rick_h_> thanks for the heads up, got the gears going lol
[17:57] <snap-l> np
[18:00] <rick_h_> cool, ok going to pack up and head down
[18:00] <rick_h_> snap-l: ^^ so if you're free meet you down there, if not I'll hang out and chat with them down there
[18:02] <snap-l> Sure. Are you doing work there, or just bopping in / bopping out/
[18:02] <snap-l> ?
[18:05] <snap-l> rick_h_: ^^
[18:54] <rick_h_> snap-l: going to hang out fora few
[18:54] <rick_h_> taking some time for her to get the schedule straight and have time to kill until dinner
[19:17] <rick_h_> snap-l _stink_ Blazeix waldo323_ widox devinheitmueller if CHC was moved to here would you stop coming? http://goo.gl/yCQqt
[19:17] <devinheitmueller> rick_h_:  probably not.  It's only a couple miles further than I go anyway.
[19:18] <devinheitmueller> (and I'm only here for another four weeks anyway)
[19:18] <rick_h_> devinheitmueller: cool, thanks
[19:18] <rick_h_> won't be this week, butmight start week after, 24th or whatever
[19:18] <rick_h_> they have a meeting room I can get I'm working on trying to get for a while out
[19:18] <devinheitmueller> Nice.
[19:19] <rick_h_> yea, think it's worththe slight extra distance
[19:37] <snap-l> WEll there goes my thoughts of ever walking to CHC. ;)
[19:38] <Blazeix> rick_h_: nope, I'd still go.
[19:42] <rick_h_> Blazeix: awesome, thanks
[19:46] <devinheitmueller> rick_h_: are you there now?
[19:49] <snap-l> Yeah, we're here now
[19:51] <rick_h_> devinheitmueller: yea, checked it out today
[19:51] <rick_h_> working on getting it reserved
[19:52] <devinheitmueller> I need some coffee.  Will swing by for a few minutes.
[19:53] <rick_h_> cool
[19:56] <widox> rick_h_: um, I'd still go
[19:56] <widox> its about a 5min diff for me
[19:57] <rick_h_> widox: awesome
[19:57] <widox> like how the street view is from dream cruise time
[19:57] <rick_h_> oh yea? hah
[19:57] <widox> tons of 9ld cards
[19:57] <widox> how many people can you get in the room?
[19:59] <rick_h_> widox: we could probably get up to 18ish if we did some org
[19:59] <rick_h_> by default it's 10 I think
[19:59] <rick_h_> there are two big tables put side v side
[20:00] <rick_h_> plenty of power, a whiteboard with markers
[20:00] <rick_h_> honestly, htinkig long term we might be able to do some python/webdev group meetings type material here
[20:00] <rick_h_> there's room to get double digit people in fora talk
[20:00] <rick_h_> but we'll see
[20:21] <widox> sweet
[21:16] <snap-l> Good afternoon.
[22:32] <brousch1> geekers
[22:34] <brousch1> i'm working with someone on a python project, his first. he rejected bitbucket because he didn't like the privacy policy, so i emailed the file back to him with my changes. he disregarded them all and made a bunch of changes
[22:39] <brousch1> his major changes were to add comments, remove argparse in favor of self-parsed arguments, and add () in each if statement and print statement
[22:54] <_stink_> hah
[22:54] <_stink_> awesome
[22:55] <snap-l> brousch1: Why are you working with this person?
[23:01] <brousch1> side project
[23:02] <brousch1> he wanted to do the tricky part
[23:02] <brousch1> interesting. i didn't think print() worked in python 2.5
[23:03] <brousch1> he's a smart kid. i just need to slap him with the pep8 snake a little more
[23:32] <rick_h_> brousch1: yea, print() has worked for a while
[23:32] <rick_h_> just not mandatory like it is in 3.x
[23:32] <rick_h_> and sucky with the whole bitbucket/etc crap
[23:40] <TeamXlink> Does anyone know what time hungry howies or little ceasers closes on sunday?
[23:40] <TeamXlink> Are they closed do you think?
[23:41] <brousch1> Why would you want to eat greasy cardboard topped with vomit?
[23:41] <rick_h_> I'd guess you'd have to call/look them up online
[23:42] <brousch1> papa johns is the best chain pizza. get it extra sauce and well done
[23:42] <brousch1> their online ordering r0x
[23:52] <snap-l> prefer Jets, personlly
[23:58] <TeamXlink> ./me prefers non chain pizza......................
[23:59] <TeamXlink> ./me prefers pizza from GR Pizza or Cherery Valley Pizzeria.
[23:59] <TeamXlink> ./me can't get that pizza anymore.