=== nlsthzn_ is now known as nlsthzn_work [10:07] * Kilos waves to all [10:14] hi Kilos [10:21] * nlsthzn_work waves [10:25] * kbmonkey waves [11:33] hi Kilos [11:33] hi kilos [11:36] hiya sakhi kbmonkey [11:36] howdy superfly [11:36] I might be moving to CT soon [11:37] eish that no good weather there unless you a penguin [11:37] or very fat so you got insulation [11:38] ja i'll have to gather a couple warm bodies to insulate me [11:38] ha ha ha [11:38] that can work [11:39] kbmonkey, why do you say might [11:40] well to see if i can find tenants for this place, maybe find a job in CT, and a place to stay [11:41] and its a big, big place! [11:41] thats a big shift from durbs weather to ct weather [11:41] dit sal lekker wees om op blouberg strand weer te loop :) [11:41] die water is te koud om te swem daar [11:42] but the crash kid managed [11:42] ek het al daai waters geswem en 5am nogal. te koud, i'd rather watch ty! [11:43] lol [11:43] i couldnt even get past my knees at 3pm inna avy [11:43] swem is vir die visse :p [11:44] nee man dis lekker en baie gesond [11:44] plus my netbook will get wet! [11:44] en die strande vol talent [11:44] apt-get install wetsuit [11:44] lol [11:45] ask nuvolari every now and again he goes to the beach to let his tongue hang out [11:46] heehee [11:49] the sea water in the cape it too cold... to have fun you have to be on the east coast :p [11:49] yip [11:50] do you ever go to the beach up there nlsthzn [11:51] Sure... but here it is more like a big flat bath... I think if this lot had to see some proper waves they would run away yelling tsunami :/ [11:51] hee hee hee [11:52] haai ma, kydaai groot dam [11:54] The local beach here you can walk into it about half a kilometer and then your knees get wet :p [11:54] it does get deeper further on... deep enough for big scary ships to float along... [11:55] oh my, no body surfing there hey [11:55] need to windsurf [11:56] sea water very healthy [11:56] but it tastes not so good, not as good as Maaz's coffee at least [11:57] I am not so sure... you know all the things fish get up to in there :p [11:57] lol [11:58] nature keeps the sea clean, only man pollutes it [11:58] true Kilos. I worry about all the radioactive stuff in there :/ [12:00] kbmonkey, i dont wanna worry you, but [12:00] need to see if i figure correctly [12:00] anyone else can jump in as well [12:01] that recovery mode when you get you boot options must be after grub has done its bit or not [12:01] like a scandisk chkdsk tool [12:02] what do you mean? [12:02] well, let me try explain my fuguring [12:02] do you want to fix your recovery boot option? [12:02] figuring [12:03] yes but just wait first. i need to know if i am on the right track [12:03] my grub boots kiff [12:04] ian bust his dpkg and that recovery repaired it [12:04] also i have used it when pc got slow [12:04] ok [12:04] so surely it checks everything not just grub [12:05] somewhere there must be a package that installs the recovery mode [12:06] im sure its not part of brub [12:06] or even grub [12:07] see we often get power cuts here and thats a great way to fix without having to bug you guys [12:08] im not sure what you mean by "surely it checks everything not just grub" [12:09] ok , here is an example [12:09] my nm didnt connect once time and i ran the recovery and it worked after that [12:09] and similar things [12:10] ah [12:10] recovery mode, as far as i know, just boots you into a root terminal. yes? [12:10] even evolution couldnt open once and recovery fixed that [12:10] it doesnt magically fix everything, it just gives you access to a terminal to do stuff in [12:11] it just runs lotsa script on its own [12:11] umm... im not too sure about that [12:11] checks lotsa stuff too fast to follow and then gives you the option to boot normally [12:11] recovery mode just boots a root login. those 'scripts' you see is the usual boot process, but normally ubuntu hides it [12:11] recovery mode just shows those boot scripts for debugging puposes [12:12] oh wait... did ubuntu change the recovery mode maybe? [12:12] * nlsthzn_work has no idea as he never has to use the recovery console... he does things the Windows way... [12:13] i dunno i have googled lots but most of it has to do with windows probs [12:13] windows way format and reinstall [12:13] lol [12:14] recovery boot option boots into a text only runlevel as root [12:14] which is why some people opt to disable that option [12:14] but anyway kbmonkey i did all that stuff in that link you gave me so my grub is kiff [12:15] the fact that your jumps back to the grub menu, indicates that your boot option is misconfigured, cannot boot the kernel, and returns back to grub :) [12:15] nee man ek kan lekker boot [12:15] i will install an ubuntu VM and have a look for you :) [12:15] no rush lad [12:16] but you said there was something to fix? [12:16] yes pc slow [12:16] oh ja ill just let in install in the background while i work here [12:16] oooh [12:16] use maverick if you got [12:17] i have got the ureadahead going as well [12:17] that frightened me a bit [12:17] ureadawhat? [12:17] ;P [12:17] the article said remove the packs outa it [12:18] lol [12:18] and until rebooting pc was even worse [12:18] lol [12:18] what release # is that? [12:18] then the ureadahead reconfigured [12:19] maverick [12:19] 10.10 [12:19] is that 10.10? [12:19] ah :) [12:19] i have a 10.10 iso [12:21] tumbles said it an ugly one that a reinstall would get rid of [12:21] so its not speletjies [12:22] what 'packs' did this article say to remove? [12:22] what article? [12:22] this is confusing! [12:22] ureadahead [12:23] oh [12:24] that only improves your boot speed hey, not your general speed [12:24] i think i asked maaz to google it for me sec i check [12:24] yes thats right [12:24] but i taking over 1 1/2 mins to boot [12:24] that like windows [12:25] be careful with that, people who obsess with boot times usually do so at detriment to the rest of the system ;) [12:25] used to be under a min [12:25] it shouldnt slow down that much. [12:25] i am not trying to make it better than it was [12:25] did ureadahead help? [12:25] oh yes [12:26] * nlsthzn_work hasn't seen any version of Ubuntu boot that slow... [12:26] me neither nlsthzn. maybe something else was the problem Kilos? [12:26] when booting it used to bring the ubuntu logo with the 5 circles under it [12:26] im very suspicious of faulty hardware when my speed goes. [12:27] i haven't shut down in 8 days. and nearly for a month last month! [12:27] now it actually brings it up twice and then goes to password page [12:27] pc's lifetime shortens when you turn it on/off regularly [12:28] lol i dont have a choice eskom does it for me [12:28] ureadahaead messes with the boot process, i'm not surprised its all sillly now [12:28] lol yes those buggers [12:28] i bought my old man a UPS for xmas last year. i swear by these things [12:29] ya [12:29] then perhaps Kilos, a reinstall some day is needed :( [12:30] i try make backups regularly of my boot/OS partitions so if something like that breaks, i can restore to last backup state. it saves me to reinstall and update everything again :) [12:30] yeah kbmonkey i would if not for the data prob.the update and upgrade are way too much [12:31] i underwstand this data prob Kilos, its very sad. [12:31] dont forget sudo apt-get update is over 20 megs alone [12:31] talking to someone in sweden, they have a ridiculous cap of like 200gb :/ [12:31] wow [12:32] * nlsthzn_work does not have a cap :p [12:32] christmas all year round [12:32] and here we sukkel so [12:32] * nlsthzn_work just doesn't have enough hard drive space for everything ;) [12:32] nlsthzn i was on uncapped, but still its so stupid they throttle you when you go over a certain amount. :/ [12:33] kbmonkey: sure... I still have to find that limit though... [12:33] i was seeding linux distros and went to like 30GiB and that put me in the top 20% of usage. they made me slower than a 3G card. i am so cross :( [12:33] eish [12:34] but now i went onto a limit again and i remembered at least i still have irc so its all good! [12:34] lol you like me [12:34] irc and pidgin work kiff [12:35] yes :) [12:36] kbmonkey, have you put out cv's for work [12:36] Kilos you should find out if there are any wireless groups in your region [12:36] or you gonna go to the cape and then try [12:36] the nearest house here is 500 metres [12:36] we onna plot [12:37] flat land? [12:37] but then i would need a wireless card as well or not [12:37] yeah [12:37] wireless cards have short range [12:37] you get antennas that can extend your range into the km's :) [12:38] but those are line-of-sight, but on flat land you wil have plenty of that :) [12:38] is there a way to check if there is wireless in the area without going door to door [12:38] in the city, its not so easy [12:38] there is! [12:38] durban/CT wireless user groups have websites that list all the people [12:38] i found something in the old nokia that said search but it found nothing [12:39] we can find your region's site if there is one. lets hope! [12:39] i dunno if you must tell it what for first [12:39] old nokia? what? [12:39] 9300i [12:39] no you wont pick anything up yet. [12:39] the idea is to find others and setup antenna to point to your friends [12:39] and _then_ you can pick them up :) [12:40] if i can find something i will use that fone as a modem [12:40] even not, you can setup internet sharing and go dutch on a landline [12:41] no landlines left here all cables stolen [12:41] you can get ranges from 5 to 15km, and even 50km+ [12:42] oh really? wow! [12:42] murphy says "as jy kan sukkel, sal jy" [12:42] telcom even gave up replacing them [12:42] what is the nearest town? how far? [12:42] pta about 15ks [12:43] ah, great stuff. there a a pta wug :) [12:43] http://www.ptawug.co.za [12:44] ok i go try lynx [12:44] yes its mostly reading there [12:44] wow its the biggest wug in SA nogal [12:46] chances are that some people in that wug also have the ubuntu repos shared so you could even update your pc all the time without internet [12:46] its like being on a local network with a whole bunch of other people [12:47] will check it ou ty kbmonkey [13:20] sorry. debs came on pidgin to say night [13:20] aw there no ptawug on irc [13:25] they say they dont provide internet access [13:26] sigh [13:43] they have irc but on another server [13:43] not freenode [13:50] hehe they got a funny bot [13:50] * infobot steals some of 's special coffee and gives it to on on a silver platter. [13:50] thats how it makes coffee [14:38] hello everyone [14:38] hiya somaunn [14:40] Kilos, hello [14:41] i'm actually having a problem when setting my asus G2s laptop [14:42] actually graphic card is configured,sound ok, wireless okay [14:42] but in fact i want to activate all the 4 speakers, control the light and have my webcam working [14:43] but cannot find a good tuto to do that [14:43] is there someone who ever tried to that before ? [14:45] are the speakers internal or plugin [14:46] i find this with maaz's help [14:47] dunno if it will help [14:47] http://www.techreaction.net/2011/05/04/review-genius-sw-g2-1-1250-4-piece-gaming-speakers/ [14:50] somaunn, are you using ubuntu [14:51] i find it needs drivers for the webcam for windows [14:52] here is the link for ubuntu [14:52] Kilos, internal [14:52] the G2S get 4 internal speakers but when installed the system's only using 2 of them [14:52] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-913832.html [14:53] are you using ubuntu somaunn [14:54] Kilos, yes i'm using natty narwhall [14:54] ok check above link for the webcam drivers [14:58] Kilos, okay jumping there right now [14:58] i mean i'm really using the webcam everytime [15:00] the integrated Oled screen,speakers and external lights that's my point [15:00] oh sorry [15:01] Kilos, no it's me i wasn't precise when asking for help. Sorry [15:01] np [15:02] what external lights has it got [15:02] like disco lights [15:02] i know very little about laptops [15:03] Kilos, yes ! look like disco lights [15:03] lol [15:04] what does the manual say or is that only for windows [15:04] maybe there is another asus user here that can help you [15:06] i've googled a bit about tht light [15:06] some said they got it working great [15:07] even speakers but i cannot find a good tuto to do the same [15:07] i also have little laptop experience and ubuntu [15:07] but google might know [15:08] kbmonkey, what would you ask google to find. maybe i asking wrong [15:09] mmm im thinking [15:09] i get hd indicator lights [15:09] no you searched well kilos but that page in that link doesnt exist anymore ? weird [15:09] aw [15:10] murphy back again [15:10] he is. lol :) [15:10] so the laptop has 4 speakers and only two work? [15:11] is there an asus channel on irc? [15:11] somaunn i would try use the alsamixer program to see the audio channel levels, maybe the speakers are mute? [15:11] kbmonkey, yes [15:11] thats a good start [15:13] your webcam might work with this help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=666149 [15:14] wow sorry the G2S doesnt seem to like ubuntu OTB [15:18] kbmonkey, means ? [15:18] http://asusg50oled.sourceforge.net/ [15:18] otb == out the box [15:19] kbmonkey, ok [15:20] and here is an ubuntu asus help [15:20] that's what is on the G2S? [15:20] http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?2819-ubuntu-on-asus-g2-help [15:20] hope that helps [15:22] i find quite a bit for windows drivers but that just hurts my head [15:23] is there a problem with the video drivers? [15:24] kbmonkey, nope [15:31] last one linux laptop wiki for that asus [15:31] http://www.linlap.com/wiki/asus+g2s [15:32] good luck [15:38] kbmonkey, i just remembered something about jobs [15:38] a little while back someone was looking for someone to do linux aedmin i think it was [15:39] try selling yourself on the lists. i am sure it was on there [15:39] yes i also remember thanks Kilos! [15:40] yw good luck [15:48] Kilos, checking on that link [15:48] i hope it helps somaunn . otherwise i am lost [16:05] still working on it [16:07] mmm, what is the first issue to solve? [16:07] one at a time should be easier [16:08] kbmonkey, the internal Oled (just for fun) [16:09] okay :) [16:09] Maaz search asus G2s oled linux driver [16:09] kbmonkey: I couldn't find anything that matched 'asus G2s oled linux driver' [16:11] http://lapsus.berlios.de/asus_oled.html [16:12] kbmonkey, okay! maybe we can jump to another track [16:12] external lights [16:12] looks like you can install the drivers for oled [16:18] what are these external lights? im a bit confused :p [16:18] lol [16:20] kbmonkey, the asus G2S had external lights that can be activated using fn+function key [16:23] for what purpose? lol sorry im naive about flashing things :p [16:24] lol [16:25] the stuff i see online doesnt saymuch about the lights [16:25] or the oled [16:26] what is oled [16:26] its like a led panel on the case i think? [16:26] kbmonkey, yes [16:27] hmm, it seems like all the other g2s people concentrated to get the essentials working, not so much the lights or led [16:29] somaunn there are plenty laptops that ubuntu is always working on to be 100% https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Laptop [16:31] that asus is not even listed on the laptop test page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Old [16:41] kbmonkey, that wug is outa reach at the moment. they want you to map where you are with google earth and take photos off your roof [16:41] hehe [16:41] but lynx works kiff and is very economical [16:42] im still under 2m for the day [16:42] yes i use it now too sometimes :) [16:43] but they dodo's as well they say you gotta buy and antennae but dont give prices, and i am sure i can build my own [16:44] i think all aerials still use the same fomulae as radio [16:44] they dont give prices because the shops vary i suppose, if you canbuilt your own evenbetter! [16:44] so its just the wireless card to get [16:45] gotta formula still in head for 35 years 486 over freq in megs [16:46] wow [16:46] funny how some things stick [16:46] hehe [16:47] i used to make wire aerials for cb and ham radios [16:47] when i was young and sexy [16:47] now im just sexy [16:47] yes then you will have no problem! [16:47] ha ha [16:47] im too sexy for my shirt, my shirt, my shiiiirt [16:47] hee hee hee [16:48] well wireless 802.11 specification says what freq it runs on, im sure all the info is available [16:48] they say they use 2.6g and 5.2g [16:48] if you can build those for cheaper im sure you could sell them [16:49] so its actually not a very big one [16:49] cos the retails ones range from 1500 to 2000 [16:49] wow [16:49] yes, wow [16:49] id have had one long ago if not for that! [16:50] do you have a wireless card [16:50] i did some electronics so could maybe build one, a timely task [16:50] i do [16:50] what kinda plug does it have for the antennae [16:50] it has a short arial screwed into the card [16:51] il need to check but think its a small RF connector [16:51] standard arial connectors [16:51] do you have wireless in the area [16:52] no man they differ from tv to radios to cellphones [16:53] this one guy made an antenna from a pringles can LOL [16:53] but then them wug guys gotta give you an IP [16:53] lol [16:53] im not sure how it all works [16:54] ok we will talk about that when your studies are done [16:54] i will explain [16:55] if the signal is strong in your area you dont need to make a yagi type on antennae like a tv one [16:55] they are directional [16:56] you make what is called a dipole [16:56] 2 pieces copper wire and your coax and plug [16:56] oh directional! okay [17:27] Ludo: Ludo is back ;) [17:27] where were you? [17:31] drubin erm life... [17:31] Ludo: blah :) [17:32] had a heart to heart with inetpro last night. [17:32] proo guy [17:32] *poor [17:32] is the next irc meeting supposed to be tomorrow or the following monday? [17:33] i think its next week marcog [17:33] marcog: tomorrow ;/ [17:33] oh tomorrow?! [17:34] according to the gcal [17:41] what are you guys meeting about? [17:41] monthly ubuntu meet [17:41] hiya drubin [17:43] Kilos: Good and you? [17:43] good ty drubin [18:11] lo ghostknife [18:13] it is too, my reminder completely failed me [18:13] lol [18:13] :/ [18:13] hi hi [18:13] i was meant to email everyone about it in advance. [18:13] hurry [18:14] you still got time [18:14] well 2 days would have been ideal [18:15] we will forgive you cause you a busy fella [18:18] thanks for the encouragement Kilos! [18:18] lol. yw [18:19] dont you have an alarm kinda thing in your mail [18:19] i think evolution has [18:20] google emails me reminders [18:20] lol and forgets [18:20] i set it 2 days last month, wonder why it went to 6 hours. weird [18:21] oh well fixed now [18:22] some wesley guy just send a reminder mail [18:23] aka apie [18:23] fancy that as we spoke about it [18:23] yeah [18:23] you so lucky [18:23] rofl [18:24] i enjoyed that [18:24] must be getting old and senile [18:25] yes i am getting senile it seems! ;P [18:25] me man. dont steal my thunder [18:30] see it even shows here! he he [18:31] what where [18:31] in irc [18:31] my senility [18:31] you better tell maaz to announce it as well [18:31] lol [18:32]