[00:00] <traskers> I've got Conky set up more or less how I want it, but I have two issues. One, when I run it, (alt+f2) it opens a terminal for itself as well. Two, at the end of my conky display a little box (like [] but an actual character) shows up..
[00:00] <leccy> YankDownUnder, yeah we were just discussing the nuances of chmod :)
[00:00] <TYDIRocks> edbian, alright I'll talk to HP
[00:00] <sude> Skype got crashed. I killed the process and it is creating another process. How to kill it completely?
[00:00] <profiled> sudo shutdown 0
[00:00] <profiled> :D
[00:00] <traskers> sude, can you run 'killall skype' ?
[00:01] <edbian> TYDIRocks: I think that your bios is set incorrectly.  Sometimes there is a setting to move onto the next device if no OS is found.  If this is off then when the bios gets to a device that does not have an OS it will display the no OS message instead of going on to the next device
[00:01] <Polah> munzx: Run the who command, it'll show you who's currently online. Probably you, root and some daemon
[00:01] <leccy> sude or pkill skype
[00:01] <TYDIRocks> edbian, but I have CD/DVD as the first so
[00:01] <luigi> leccy: You know file perms are not the only thing that files have as metadata, right? You should look into file properties/modes.
[00:01] <nuborn> urlin2u: Thanks, yes, the lower right corner is often a solution. By adjusting the mouse, do you mean something like slower speed/movement?
[00:01] <edbian> TYDIRocks: ahh, good point
[00:02] <edbian> TYDIRocks: Perhaps the bios does not support booting from a DVD (is this an older machine?)
[00:02] <urlin2u> nuborn, depends you have to mess with the contols.
[00:02] <luigi> leccy: Like +i, for instance. You can ruin someone's system without touching chmod once.
[00:02] <sude> traskers it is not working
[00:02] <urlin2u> contro;s*
[00:02] <sude> leccy it is not working
[00:02] <urlin2u> close
[00:02] <edbian> TYDIRocks: If you talk to HP btw, I suggest you tell the you're trying to boot a window CD (effectively the same thing).  They're likely to say 'we don't support linux'
[00:02] <chaospsychex> i still can't copy files to the directory
[00:02] <TYDIRocks> edbian, not entirely sure, I'm using a compaq v3100
[00:02] <chaospsychex> whats the command to elevate me to sudo
[00:03] <greggg> When capturing audio input through the rear mic, sound is very low and muffled--if I tap on my microphone I hear barely-audible thud-thud-thud's. I checked in alsamixer that the rear mic is not muted, and set the rear mic boost to 100%. Any ideas on how to go about getting the rear mic to work properly? I'm running Natty.
[00:03] <nuborn> urlin2u: Ok, thanks, Ill try to check it out
[00:03] <leccy> luigi, but is +i a chmod flag? I thought for setting permissions, chmod and r,w or x were all you needed
[00:03] <edbian> TYDIRocks: It's not that old
[00:03] <luigi> leccy: I'm not talking about file permissions. I'm talking about file properties and modes.
[00:03] <edbian> TYDIRocks: All signs point to bios boot order being incorrect.
[00:04] <luigi> leccy: I mean, attributes
[00:04] <TYDIRocks> edbian, alright. I think I'll start off asking if they support linux. Then I can decide to lie xD
[00:04] <chaospsychex> can someone help me set up a ftp server? like walk me through it
[00:04] <chaospsychex> im having all kinds of problems
[00:04] <edbian> TYDIRocks: good luck! :D
[00:04] <luigi> leccy: man chattr
[00:05] <TYDIRocks>  edbian, thanks
[00:05] <Polah> chaospsychex: Sure, though there's a lot of FTP servers out there, I'd recommend vsftpd though.
[00:05] <leccy> luigi, ok
[00:05] <edbian> TYDIRocks: sure
[00:05] <Polah> chaospsychex, of course, if you have openssh-server installed that allows access via SFTP so you don't need to install second insecure FTP server
[00:05] <luigi> leccy: For instance 'chattr -R +i /' will RUIN A SYSTEM. So DON'T RUN IT, but feel free to learn from it.
[00:06] <C_Smith> hey, I'm trying to transfer videos to my Ipod nano 5g and I keep getting the error "the m4v format is not supported by the device, and no convertor was found" even after installing ffmpeg, what converter would Banshee use for videos on Ipod Nano 5gs?
[00:06] <Josesordo> hello all, what is the name of the protocol you can use webcam and audio in pidgin?
[00:06] <luigi> Josesordo: PulseAudio?
[00:06] <luigi> No, that's not it at all.
[00:06] <sude> Skype got crashed. I killed the process and it is creating another process. How to kill it completely?  Details:http://pastebin.com/mSETwZAB
[00:06] <leccy> luigi, how can you view attributes? is there an ls flag?
[00:07] <Josesordo> luigi, no.. is a protocol like MSN but not private..xD
[00:07] <luigi> Josesordo: I don't know of a public one, sorry.
[00:07] <matryx> hi, can someone help me setup a network share so I can grab files from my WinXP PC
[00:08] <tabakhase> my grub autogenerated win7 dosnt work... http://nopaste.php-quake.net/54948
[00:08] <chaospsychex> Polah: im trying to set up vsftp right now
[00:08] <luigi> leccy: Why don't you look it up instead of me doing your work?
[00:08] <sude> Skype got crashed. I killed the process and it is creating another process. How to kill it completely?  Details:http://pastebin.com/mSETwZAB
[00:08] <Polah> chaospsychex: Got it installed?
[00:09] <Costanza> meh tinycore is not good for making dd of mbr
[00:09] <chaospsychex> yeah
[00:09] <chaospsychex> im trying to put files into 'srv/ftp'
[00:09] <luigi> sude: killall skype
[00:09] <C_Smith> sude, just post the problem/question once, and someone will get to you, just be patient, as they're all volunteers.
[00:09] <urlin2u> Costanza, why are you dd the mbr?
[00:09] <tabakhase> seems like windows killed my swap...
[00:10] <munzxttt> hi! everybody .... when i run "uptime" in terminal i get 3 user despite i am the only user in the system! ..... does that mean there is an intrusion!!??
[00:10] <luigi> Costanza: Why not just use Clonezilla for full disk backups?
[00:10] <Costanza> i have an usb stick with an efi / duet /ed2 mbr and bootsector (pbr)
[00:10] <anth0ny> I have two bash .sh files in a directory that are almost exactly the same (they're files to start applications on startup after a "sleep" time, three lines, one has "exec thunderbird", the other has "exec xchat --minimize=2").  When viewing the folder in terminal, the thunderbird script appears green (executable) and the xchat script is white (standard).  Subsequently, the thunderbird script works on startup but the other (xchat) does
[00:10] <anth0ny> n't.  Any ideas as to why?
[00:10] <sude> luigi : did that. It is not working.
[00:10] <Costanza> im not doing it for myself i will upload it so others can restore it to their stick
[00:10] <leccy> luigi, no need to get smart with me. it's lsattr. I was only chatting. what is it with geeks and their 'i know more than you' egos? g'night.
[00:11] <luigi> leccy: I didn't know it, I didn't feel like looking it up...
[00:11] <luigi> >_>
[00:11] <iceroot> anth0ny: why not making it executable?
[00:11] <anth0ny> iceroot, how do you go about doing that?
[00:11] <iceroot> anth0ny: chmod +x filename
[00:12] <magpii> fresh ubuntu install. how do i clear the desktop environment config files?
[00:12] <luigi> sude: I'm not sure then. You could try ps ax | grep skype and seeing what processes it's spawning, then 'sudo kill -SIGTERM $pid' where $pid is the numeric pid of the process.
[00:12] <anth0ny> iceroot, thanks, trying now.
[00:12] <C_Smith> wow. leccy was the one with the bad attitude.
[00:12] <Gentoo64> magpii, on a fresh install?
[00:12] <munzxttt> plz! can anybody help me here?!
[00:12] <munzxttt> hi! everybody .... when i run "uptime" in terminal i get 3 user despite i am the only user in the system! ..... does that mean there is an intrusion!!??
[00:12] <C_Smith> just so I know, has anyone seen my question?
[00:12] <edbian> munzxttt: Do you have more than one terminal open?
[00:12] <edbian> munzxttt: each one is a user
[00:12] <munzxttt> no!
[00:13] <magpii> Gentoo64: indeed. after username and password input, the desktop loads, then mouse and keyboard become unresponsive
[00:13] <anth0ny> munzxttt, yeah, I get two... interesting.
[00:13] <Gentoo64> magpii, are they both usb?
[00:13] <kijutsu> I'm working with KVM and Qemu in an attempt to create virtual machines.  Is it possible to make a virtual machine access a physical drive on the host machine?
[00:13] <TrD> hi all, waths is the iptables rules to allow others PC visiting my website on my machine
[00:13] <illovae> munzxttt: that's normal
[00:13] <TrD> i use apache
[00:14] <magpii> Gentoo64:  my mouse is wireless and my keybaord is oldsckool round pin connection
[00:14] <illovae> munzxttt: see the results of the "who" command in a term
[00:14] <luigi> munzxttt: Linux is by design a multi user environment. Just on my system I have my user, isaac, the user who started the first process, init, and many other users that are running programs in the background for me.
[00:14] <magpii> Gentoo64:  the mouse is still responsive when moving around the screen but buttons are not
[00:15] <C_Smith> so, I'll simplify my message: what converter does Banshee use for videos for Ipod naon 5th Gen?
[00:15] <luigi> munzxttt: Unless you're logged in as root (a bad idea, graphically) you are guaranteed to have at least two users running.
[00:15] <illovae> munzxttt: in a default config you have at least two users, you in the tty and you in the X session
[00:15] <munzxttt> edbian : sorry! :) u r right ... i had two terminal open ... but i still have 2 users ... is it like me (user) and root?!!
[00:15] <Troy^> magpii, are you using a laptop?
[00:15] <luigi> C_Smith: Probably some implementation of x264 for video, and faac for audio.
[00:15] <milamber> munzxttt: see what users are logged in by running the command: who
[00:15] <C_Smith> so, what package(s) would I install?
[00:16] <edbian> munzxttt: Probably because sudo hasn't worn off yet.
[00:16] <magpii> Troy^: this is on a laptop but the pc with the issue is not
[00:16] <C_Smith> I'm okay with installing via command line
[00:16] <luigi> C_Smith: ubuntu-restricted-extras usually does the trick.
[00:16] <ylluminate> is there an fseventer based on inotify for linux that is either textual or graphical?
[00:16] <C_Smith> hmmmmm, I believe that's installed
[00:16] <munzxttt> edbian : sorry! i am new to linux! ... what did u mean by "not worn yet"?
[00:17] <Gentoo64> munzxttt, do sudo -k
[00:17] <Gentoo64> thatll reset the timer
[00:17] <munzxttt> milamber : i get my name twice!!!
[00:17] <C_Smith> yeah, they're installed already
[00:17] <C_Smith> and I still get the error
[00:17] <luigi> C_Smith: Look for ffmpeg as well. That might be used for the video blitter. I'm not good with banshee with video, so I can't help much past that.
[00:17] <milamber> munzxttt: if you have a terminal open you will get that
[00:17] <edbian> munzxttt: When you do 'sudo something' then it caches your password.  For about 15 minutes.  If you sudo again for 15 minutes you will not be asked your password.  I think this is causing root to show up.
[00:17] <edbian> munzxttt: make sense?
[00:17] <luigi> edbian: Root is always logged in.
[00:17] <luigi> No?
[00:18] <luigi> Otherwise init would die.
[00:18] <C_Smith> ffmpeg was installed earlier trying to figure this out myself
[00:18] <milamber> luigi: not logged in, but still owns processes
[00:18] <edbian> luigi: He is not logged in all the time.
[00:18] <edbian> luigi: check out who on your system right now
[00:18] <luigi> milamber: Yes, but it would show it as logged with uptime yes?
[00:19] <luigi> edbian: I'm on an arch linux install, and I have three users.
[00:19] <munzxttt> edbian : i ran "sudo su" but still!!! ... is it normal!!
[00:19] <milamber> luigi: shouldn't show up (in ubuntu)
[00:19] <edbian> luigi: hahah
[00:19] <luigi> s/(.*)\.$/\1 running currently.
[00:19] <edbian> munzxttt: what?  sudo su would log you in as root
[00:19] <luigi> milamber: Interesting.
[00:20] <Gentoo64> afaik you cant login as root on ubuntu, by default
[00:20] <Gentoo64> without setting root passwd
[00:20] <magpii> can somebody please give me the link to a stable current version of ubuntu as the one that i have installed over my windows os on my pc is seriously screwing with my calm
[00:20] <munzxttt> edbian : yea! i thought if i log in as root it will show only 1 user!
[00:20] <Gentoo64> magpii, 11.04 is current stable
[00:20] <Gentoo64> magpii, 10.04 is lts
[00:21] <Gentoo64> magpii, imo 10.10 is the best ubuntu
[00:21] <magpii> it just opened up 0on its own, the dvd that was in the drive and then spammed the screen with 8 dir dialogue windows
[00:21] <dctuser> how can i solve the problem of unsolved dependencies in ubuntu? what ever i try to install, cannot be installed
[00:21] <milamber> munzxttt: if you want more information about the users, run the command: w
[00:21] <edbian> munzxttt: It would show root...  It will show at least two users if you're using a GUI one for the gui and one for the bash shell you're using to run who or uptime or whatever
[00:21] <luigi> milamber: Ah, my two users are both myself. w is a good command to remember.
[00:21] <nuborn> Oh, I opened 10 terminal windows and typed "who", and first now did I realize why theres multiple users logged in.
[00:21] <magpii> 11.04 is the one that just wrecked 3 years of uni work and sent my calm through levels of chaos previously unrecorded
[00:22] <nuborn> (didnt before)
[00:22] <munzxttt> edbian : malamber : thanks ! :) i think i got it now! :) cheers!
[00:22] <Gentoo64> magpii, try 10.10
[00:22] <Gentoo64> it hasnt got as many problems
[00:22] <edbian> munzxttt: sure
[00:22] <luigi> magpii: You are the one who installed it without a backup. You're the one who ruined it, not Ubuntu itself. Always back up what you have before making a major system change.
[00:22] <magpii> those responsible for releasing an os into the public domian while it is still full of bugs need to be taken out the back and seriously pionted at
[00:22] <milamber> magpii: for ultimate zen, most people try to stick with the !lts versions, currently 10.04
[00:23] <luigi> magpii: Ubuntu is free software.
[00:23] <tabakhase> :D seems like my ubuntu is using the windows as swap right now... :D
[00:23] <dctuser> how can i solve the problem of unsolved dependencies in ubuntu? what ever i try to install, cannot be installed
[00:23] <kijutsu> Not to mention the fact that ... windows isn't exactly 'bug free' either.
[00:23] <Gentoo64> magpii, but windows and all other distors / os have bugs
[00:23] <munzxttt> edbian : what i got "it's ok" ... that's enough for me! :) lolz thanks again!
[00:23] <edbian> munzxttt: sure :)
[00:23] <lion42> magpii, you do realize your OS would not exist, and would not be as good as it is, were it not for public creation and public involvement? O.o
[00:23] <milamber> dctuser: if you are getting the error for more than one package, it is probable that a mysterious *something* is wrong with the package manager. can you pastebin the output of what you are trying to do?
[00:23] <luigi> magpii: "This Free software has bugs? How dare those people sit there and not fix it instead of volunteering even more time to fix my problem while I complain!"
[00:24] <StevenR> magpii: software isn't perfect. No software, beyond "hello world" is bug free.
[00:24] <magpii> forget it, its my fault for trusting in the hype, its my mistake, thanks for the help anyway
[00:24] <lion42> ...
[00:24] <Gentoo64> magpii, why be like that?
[00:24] <milamber> munzxttt: np
[00:24] <lion42> rofl, that's the fakest non-apology I've ever seen.
[00:24] <kijutsu> heh
[00:24] <zabomber> magpii: what would i hack if it wasn't buggy?
[00:24] <Gentoo64> yay
[00:24] <kijutsu> what the heck was that? :P
[00:24] <macintosh> he quited
[00:24] <Gentoo64> 1 less linux user
[00:24] <luigi> StevenR: My brainfuck program that prints "hello world" segfaulted. :P
[00:24] <lion42> kijutsu, whiners on the IRCs.
[00:24] <kijutsu> lion42: apparently :)
[00:25] <lion42> shocking rite.
[00:25] <kijutsu> "I WANT BUGFREE SOFTWARE>. WHINEWHINEWHINE."  Keeeep dreamin friend. :P
[00:25] <zabomber> he's probably an old 45yr father who "used" to be lee7 in his day
[00:25] <zabomber> windows 3.5.1
[00:25] <zabomber> whoohoo
[00:25] <rww> moving on.
[00:25] <kijutsu> moving on indeed
[00:25] <StevenR> luigi: maybe that's the desired output ;)
[00:25] <macintosh> I am a new Ubuntu user
[00:25] <dctuser> i can copy and paste it but it is not in english
[00:25] <macintosh> :D
[00:25] <dctuser> well i am trying sudo apt-get python-matplotlib
[00:25] <kijutsu> Dumb question of the evening:  How do I mount a physical disk under KVM without breaking everything?
[00:25] <luigi> dctuser: And what happens?
[00:26] <dctuser> and it says that it depends on python-all but cannot be installed
[00:26] <dctuser> it depends on python2.6dbg and cannot be installed
[00:26] <dctuser> etc etc
[00:26] <milamber> dctuser: is the error in english?
[00:26] <dctuser> nope
[00:26] <luigi> kijutsu: Don't have the host OS perform any I/O on its own.
[00:26] <luigi> kijutsu: Leave the disk and its partitions unmounted, then just run the vm on it
[00:26] <StevenR> kijutsu: can you be more precise about what you want to do ?
[00:26] <milamber> dctuser: what version of ubuntu?
[00:27] <luigi> kijutsu: I've once booted a system inside itself and only had minor hangups. Be safe, and you'll be okay most of the time.
[00:27] <dctuser> "the following packages have those unsolved dependences " ,........... "The build dependencies of python-matplotlib are not satisfied"
[00:27] <dctuser> just in this case the dependencies are relevant to ubuntu
[00:27] <kijutsu> StevenR: I'm building a Windows XP virtual machine to create an audio server via shoutcast.  I would like this virtual machine to read the mp3s i have on a physical ext3 drive on the host machine.
[00:27] <dctuser> to python
[00:27] <dctuser> no ubuntu , but even if i try to install flash, there is problem
[00:28] <macintosh> are there any one here know how to mod WD sharespace OS?
[00:28] <StevenR> kijutsu: ok, then use samba to share them. Windows XP won't read them on it's own if it's ext3.
[00:28] <anth0ny> is there any way for me to downgrade from 11.04 to 10.04 LTS while maintaining all of my system files and settings?
[00:28] <rww> !downgrade
[00:28] <WaltherFI> nope, iirc
[00:28] <luigi> kijutsu: Install some guest extensions in the guest system, and share your dirs from the host system.
[00:28] <luigi> That's another idea.
[00:28] <luigi> s/idea/option
[00:28] <milamber> dctuser: like i said, it's probable there is something going on with the package manager, try: sudo apt-get clean
[00:28] <kijutsu> StevenR: Doh.. I was hoping KVM had a middle-man software to convert to NTFS/Fat32 on the fly.
[00:28] <bazhang> anth0ny, full reinstall
[00:28] <anth0ny> ubottu, this is good to know...
[00:29] <bazhang> macintosh, please be clear cannot understand what you mean
[00:29] <dctuser> and then ? after clean?
[00:29] <luigi> kijutsu: You could try using VirtualBox. It's a little bloated, but its guest extensions are wonderful.
[00:29] <kijutsu> StevenR: guess Samba is the answer -- I just hope the loopback network interface doesn't cause issues for streaming audio.
[00:29] <bazhang> macintosh, what is mod WD sharespace OS
[00:29] <macintosh> I have a WD sharespace NAS box and I want to mod it
[00:29] <milamber> dctuser: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:29] <StevenR> kijutsu: nope, samba is your way here... or get an icecast/shoutcast server for ubuntu?
[00:30] <bazhang> macintosh, how is that related to ubuntu support
[00:30] <kijutsu> StevenR: the shoutcast/icecast servers I found are.. unimpressive.
[00:30] <macintosh> some one told me to come here to ask how to mod in order to increase its speed
[00:30] <dctuser> ok
[00:30] <bazhang> macintosh, sounds like hardware
[00:30] <macintosh> its built in linux OS
[00:30] <macintosh> yes it is
[00:30] <kijutsu> StevenR: Thanks though. guess I'll have to go dig into some samba manuals and figure out how the heck to make that fly right.
[00:30] <bazhang> ##hardware macintosh
[00:31] <Guest18467> hi
[00:31] <anth0ny> so, what's considered the best backup utility for Ubuntu?  I loved using Mac's Time Machine, anything like that?  Bonus points if it'd backup my Windows partition as well.
[00:31] <bazhang> !sbackup > anth0ny
[00:31] <luigi> anth0ny: Graphically, I use dejadup
[00:31] <macintosh> do you have any recommend for me to increase it speed bazhang
[00:31] <bazhang> macintosh, its offtopic here, please dont ask.
[00:31] <dctuser> with the update it tells me to use apt-get -f install
[00:31] <dctuser> because of some independencies
[00:31] <luigi> macintosh: Why not ask in ##linux or ##hardware?
[00:32] <dctuser> of python2.6 minimal
[00:32] <anth0ny> ubottu, are you a bot?
[00:32] <milamber> dctuser: -f means force the install, which would be the next option
[00:32] <luigi> Is ubottu a supybot?
[00:32] <rww> luigi: yes
[00:33] <luigi> rww: Thanks.
[00:33] <kijutsu> StevenR: while we're on the subject -- do you have any recommendations to create samba shares with a mimimum of hassle?
[00:33] <dctuser> python2.6 L Depends from python2.6-minimal (=2.6.6-6 ubuntu7)
[00:33] <dctuser> which is not install
[00:33] <StevenR> kijutsu: you might look at SAT
[00:33] <StevenR> *SWAT
[00:33] <Cradam> hi does anyone know the command to start the taskbar type thing?
[00:34] <kijutsu> StevenR: I did try that under PPC and it damn near took out the system.  Is it stabler under x86/x86_64?
[00:34] <zykotick9> Cradam, gnome-panel if you are using classic
[00:34] <Cradam> thanks
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> !panel | Cradam
[00:35] <StevenR> kijutsu: not sure... I've always just used the manpage and vim to edit samba configs.
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> !panels | Cradam
[00:35] <macintosh> guys, I don't want to be fool (I am a newbie) but I would like to ask just 1 more question: could I install Ubuntu on my PowerMac G5
[00:36] <JakeR003> guys
[00:36] <dctuser> how can i install python2.6 minimal
[00:36] <JakeR003> some programs put icon near my account near at the top panel
[00:36] <JakeR003> how can i force them to show at the buttom?
[00:37] <JakeR003> bottom*
[00:37] <luigi> macintosh: Yes.
[00:37] <Cradam> ActionParsnip: the problem was that after i upgraded to 11.04 the top panel disspeared after the second reboot
[00:37] <zykotick9> dctuser, did you try "sudo apt-get install python2.6-minimal"
[00:37] <urlin2u> JakeR003, classic desktop?
[00:37] <JakeR003> gnome 2
[00:37] <JakeR003> ubuntu 11.04
[00:37] <JakeR003> same desktop that came with it.. i never changed anything on it
[00:38] <urlin2u> JakeR003, that is the notification area in the top
[00:38] <macintosh> which version could I use, luigi?
[00:38] <JakeR003> urlin2u yeah it's kind of annoying because the icons show behind the power icon
[00:38] <Cradam> is their a command i need to do to make it start on login?
[00:38] <JakeR003> for shutdown and restarts
[00:39] <JakeR003> so it confuse me
[00:39] <luigi> macintosh: Any powerpc install.
[00:39] <rww> !ppc | macintosh
[00:39] <urlin2u> JakeR003, try killall gnome-panel to see if the panel is correct
[00:39] <JakeR003> urlin2u now they always show there
[00:39] <macintosh> Ok thanks you guys, I will try it now and I won't bother you anymore
[00:40] <urlin2u> JakeR003, you can add the notifaction to the bottom with add to panel.
[00:40] <dctuser> it says it cannot process /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.60mminimal ....
[00:40] <dctuser> sub-process /usr/bun/dpkg returned an error
[00:40] <JakeR003> urlin2u what do i choose?
[00:41] <JakeR003> ad panel then what
[00:41] <urlin2u> JakeR003, notification area
[00:43] <anth0ny> what's a quick way to set up an automount system to have my partitions/other HDDs accessible on startup?
[00:44] <bazhang> anth0ny, add them to fstab you mean?
[00:44] <jrib> !fstab | anth0ny
[00:45] <KM0201> anth0ny: the only way is, fstab.. if you want a GUI.... there's a utility that does
[00:45] <Costanza> i give up.. cant make the mbr pbr thing to work after i restore it with dd, the only thing that worked was using win32diskimager in windows but it made an 4gb.img file :/
[00:46] <Costanza> so it does not want to backup 512 byes properly or something
[00:46] <anth0ny> bazhang, jrib, KM0201, ubottu : thank you gentlemen/ladies
[00:46] <Costanza> but the whole backup 4gb worked, so i wonder if this needs something dffferent
[00:47] <bazhang> anth0ny, one of us is a bot
[00:47] <KM0201> anth0ny: it's called pysdm   it's in the repositories (again, really only needed if you don't want to edit fstab manually)
[00:47] <luigi> Costanza: Clonezilla is exactly the program I think you need, but you haven't responded to me at all.
[00:47] <Costanza> i dont need to backup my hdd, only the bootsector of the usb stick
[00:47] <Costanza> and clonezilla does not create .img files i can restore with dd, aint it
[00:47] <DasEi> Costanza: then use dd
[00:47] <DasEi> ah, got it already
[00:48] <anth0ny> bazhang, well, maybe ubottu was feeling unappreciated
[00:48] <Costanza> i used dd but when i restore the bootscore and mbr the pc complains, not system disk
[00:48] <luigi> Costanza: Clonezilla makes img files that are compressed however you want, buddy.
[00:49] <Gentoo64> Costanza, why do you only want to backup the boot sector btw?
[00:49] <Costanza> because i need it to restore to other sticks
[00:49] <shinsuke> was the flash player bug that caused almost 100% cpu workload patched a few days ago?
[00:49] <Costanza> can i make an partition 10 gb and backup using whole disk dd backup or would that backup the unallocated space?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> shinsuke: 32bit flash or 64bit flash?
[00:50] <Costanza> 10mb*
[00:50] <q_a_z_steve> how do I invoke 11.04's toram correctly? Assuming my system will boot the CD I'm burning...
[00:50] <bazhang> shinsuke, not sure, but there was a flash security upgrade just today
[00:50] <Gentoo64> Costanza, http://www.experts-exchange.com/OS/Linux/Q_21601291.html
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> Costanza: it will backup the space too. partmage may work
[00:50] <Gentoo64> ?
[00:50] <luigi> Costanza: If you use clonezilla or pipe dd to a compression program it will compress the empty space.
[00:50] <shinsuke> ActionParsnip, 32bit
[00:50] <Costanza> i will try, thx
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> shinsuke: gotcha, not had a flash update knowingly
[00:52] <Costanza> oh it says dd if=backup.boot of=/dev/hda bs=1 but i used dd if=backup.boot of=dev/hda  bs=512 count=1
[00:52] <Costanza> to restore
[00:52] <Dogget> Having issues installing the right drivers for my Brother MFC-J265W printer. Any help more than welcome
[00:53] <bazhang> Dogget, what does linuxprinting.org say the correct drivers are
[00:53] <q_a_z_steve> ActionParsnip: Have you ever loaded natty toram?
[00:53] <bazhang> Dogget, from their database of printers list
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> q_a_z_steve: not personally
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: brother make linux drivers
[00:54] <shinsuke> is it possible to install ubuntu on an android and kick android?
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: did you check their website?
[00:54] <Dogget> Well you can get the right printers from Brother site directly but I am confused as what to do guys!
[00:54] <q_a_z_steve> I read that it was a functioning option, so I assume I would just enter toram in the custom boot options line???
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> shinsuke: I've seen someone run a premade linux and VNC to localhost
[00:55] <luigi> q_a_z_steve: toram will indeed boot to ram.
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: give me a sec and I'll make you a commad
[00:55] <Dogget> Thank you very much guys
[00:55] <Dogget> This is the site: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#MFC-J265W
[00:56] <q_a_z_steve> luigi: hopefully I can boot into 11.04 at all. I can get into 10.10 just fine livecd, but haven't had any luck with the amd64+mac atm.
[00:56] <Gentoo64> Dogget, i think you want the lpr .deb
[00:57] <Dogget> I am running Ubuntu  64
[00:57] <miktor> Problem: I'm trying to mount my music folder from windows with fstab, but fstab won't recognise backslash and a space as a space in the path. Here's my fstab file http://pastie.org/2368281
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: what is the output of:  uname -m
[00:57] <Dogget> hold on Action
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: brother make sweet linux drivers
[00:57] <V13Axel> I have an odd problem. When I turn my laptop on while it's plugged up, there are no issues. Themes and fonts load properly, everything is fine. However, if I unplug the laptop and log-in, I get an odd problem. My theme becomes broken for a moment, I get the default GNOME icons and menus. Any ideas?
[00:57] <Gentoo64> miktor, try ""
[00:57] <Dogget> it says x86-64 Action
[00:57] <Gentoo64> and spaces
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: hmm, ok
[00:58] <auvajs> hello I wanna use the sort program. I wanna sort it numerically according to second column and later according to third columb but riversely... didn't figured how to write the script thougH:)
[00:58] <mrdeb> this happens V13Axel
[00:58] <miktor> Alright, i will Geentoo64. Will return in a moment if it does not work
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: http://myubuntux.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/synaptic-brother-driver.png
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: may be in software centre
[00:59] <V13Axel> mrdeb: So there's no fix for it? It's reliably every time I login and the laptop is unplugged, the theme breaks. If it's plugged up, the problem never occurs.
[00:59] <newbiee> hello
[01:00] <V13Axel> mrdeb: So there's no fix for it? It's reliably every time I login and the laptop is unplugged, the theme breaks. If it's plugged up, the problem never occurs.
[01:00] <newbiee> can anyone tell me what i can do with a vpn network
[01:00] <raevol> hi all, i am trying to see my dad's computer using vinagre
[01:00] <V13Axel> Oops, accident.
[01:00] <raevol> i can ssh into his box, but how do i get him running a vnc server so that i can actually see his screen?
[01:00] <mrdeb> i neve rnotriced that its with power plugged in
[01:00] <Dogget> The link I gave in was specifically for my printer Action
[01:00] <mrdeb> but i have seen that happen
[01:01] <dimas_> is there any software i can record a voice confernece?
[01:01] <V13Axel> mrdeb: It's only one one specific laptop. My other two work fine, and I was planning on selling this one, so I have to get this fixed.
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: may help http://pastebin.com/mhPf7Fb8
[01:01] <defectz> Hello all, how do i check what my ipv4 address is?
[01:01] <defectz> Hello all, how do i check what my ipv4 address is with ubuntu
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: its a generic package of drivers, it may contain the one you own
[01:02] <newbiee> defectz: i belive "ifconfig"
[01:02] <Gentoo64> defectz, 76.115.139.225
[01:02] <luigi> defectz: try whatismyip.com for your global IP, if that's what you're after.
[01:02] <dimas_> defectz even easier just on top right you have connection properties and there you see your ip
[01:02] <Dogget> Ok Action what is the command you want me to type friend?
[01:03] <defectz> Gentoo, luigi i need the network ip for port forwarding
[01:03] <Gentoo64> defectz, ifconfig
[01:03] <luigi> defectz: ifconfig will tell you this.
[01:03] <Gentoo64> will tell you local address
[01:03] <V13Axel> defectz: You can use ifconfig, or you can right-click the network manager on the GNOME-panel and click "Edit connections" you'll find it under the specific connection you're wanting to find it out for.
[01:03] <miktor> Gentoo64: that did not work
[01:03] <Gentoo64> miktor, can you paste fstab again?
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> defectz: curl -s checkip.dyndns.org | grep -Eo '[0-9\.]+'
[01:03] <newbiee> i am wondering if i can use the other side server's ip addresses at on my server at home with a vpn network
[01:03] <miktor> Gentoo64: http://pastie.org/2368281
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: use software center to check if your printer is supported by the packages in the repos
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> defectz: or to save installing curl:   wget -q -O - whatismyip.org; echo
[01:04] <Dogget> I am there Action, but not sure which one to pick!
[01:05] <Dogget> Not sure about cups/lpr drivers
[01:05] <luigi> miktor: You're missing options for your ntfs mounts.
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: read the descriptions
[01:05] <Dogget> it doesn't say much when I click on them Action
[01:07] <Dogget> Just going through the list
[01:07] <miktor> luigi: oh, what options? the windows one works anyway.
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: ok then you may need the url I gave in the pastebin, just use the deb files listed instead (Those are from the brother site)
[01:07] <marezz> Hi everyone, how can I disable visual effects in ubuntu 11.04 classic? They seem to lag my videos...
[01:07] <luigi> miktor: Try '/dev/sda5 /media/backup vfat defaults 0 3'
[01:08] <a_p3rson> how do i update the clamav antivirus engine?
[01:08] <Costanza> i will try with  dd if=/dev/xxx of=/home/sam/MBRboot.image bs=512 count=2
[01:08] <Polah> costanza: What are you trying to do?
[01:08] <luigi> a_p3rson: You can do it from the clamav client.
[01:08] <dimas_> when you use vpn in buntu and try connect remote desktop then it will give a warning to the other computer?
[01:08] <Costanza> it seems to only have backed up the mbr, but when i restore it the windows boot loader is still on the usb so dd did not bacup the EFI bootloader
[01:08] <_Shai> Someone can helpme installing gnome 3 in my ubuntu 11.04
[01:08] <_Shai> ?
[01:08] <_Shai> Someone can helpme installing gnome 3 in my ubuntu 11.04?
[01:08] <miktor> luigi: okay, and what for the last line?
[01:08] <a_p3rson> luigi: how would i do that? i dont have a clamav client, but i do have clamtk
[01:09] <marezz> Hi everyone, how can I disable visual effects in ubuntu 11.04 classic? They seem to lag my videos...
[01:09] <Polah> _Shai: GNOME3 is unsupported in 11.04
[01:09] <Costanza> Polah, trying to backup an efi mbr + bootaloder located on usb
[01:09] <luigi> miktor: For the three lines that have ntfs or vfat, add the word 'defaults' before the two numbers
[01:09] <_Shai> Polah: In what OScan i run GNOME 3 ?
[01:09] <Costanza> using count=1 it backed up mbr only, not the bootsector thingy :s
[01:09] <willwh> marezz: System > Prefs > Appearance
[01:09] <Jon--> Having an issue with Ubuntu : Headphones go in headphone jack, sound continues to come out of laptop speakers.
[01:09] <Dogget> Honestly Action I am at lose here! Sorry for being a pain I just don't know where to start.
[01:10] <marezz> willwh, Its not there
[01:10] <willwh> marezz: one of those tabs lets you turn off effects
[01:10] <rww> !gnome3 | _Shai
[01:10] <Jon--> Ubuntu 11.04. ^
[01:10] <Gentoo64> _Shai, i think fedora comes with it default
[01:10] <willwh> marezz: maybe it's system > admin > appearance
[01:10] <Polah> _Shai: A handful, I don't know any specifically. GNOME3 will be supported in 11.10 when that is realeased in a couple of months
[01:10] <_Shai> Gentoo64: Okey
[01:10] <willwh> (my irssi session runs on a headless box, so I am not sure - ssh'ing from my phone atm)
[01:10] <Costanza> doing a full dd of the usb drive works when i restore it to another usb
[01:11] <marezz> willwh, its in system/pref/appearance but there is no visual effects tab there
[01:11] <a_p3rson> Luigi: how would i do that? i dont have a clamav client, but i do have clamtk
[01:11] <Costanza> but doing only mbr did not work
[01:11] <marezz> Hi everyone, how can I disable visual effects in ubuntu 11.04 classic? They seem to lag my videos...
[01:12] <willwh> marezz: I don't think you can if you are running Unity
[01:12] <luigi> a_p3rson: man clamtk. I believe it describes the process there.
[01:12] <willwh> marezz: I think you need to log in a ubuntu classic session (gnome) :)
[01:12] <marezz> willwh, Dont you read what I said? Im using Ubuntu 11.04 CLASSIC
[01:12] <willwh> marezz: no need to be rude, and apologies, I missed that
[01:13] <marezz> willwh, Im not being rude, Im just pointing out something I wrote multiple times and you failed to see :)
[01:13] <urlin2u> marezz, you can switch to metacity, for less  metacity --replace in the terminal
[01:13] <je0rJey> marezz: take your attitude somewhere else
[01:14] <Polah> marezz: Select "Ubuntu Classic (No Effects)" as a session when logging in
[01:15] <a_p3rson> luigi: man clamtk doesnt tell you how
[01:15] <luigi> a_p3rson: Alright, I will go look it up elsewhere. I'll be back in a moment.
[01:15] <miktor> luigi: that fixed my other drives, but still, i don't know how to get fstab to handle that location with spaces
[01:15] <luigi> miktor: You've tried encapsulating it in quotes?
[01:16] <miktor> both types of quotes yes
[01:16] <miktor> with and without backslashes for both
[01:16] <raevol> nevermind on my vnc problem, got it
[01:16] <marezz> urlin2u, After I did metacity --replace, I no longer see video, I can only hear audio playing
[01:16] <urlin2u> marezz, check Polah message.
[01:16] <luigi> a_p3rson: freshclam
[01:17] <luigi> a_p3rson: That's the command. Simple, no?
[01:17] <a_p3rson> luigi: doing that gives some errors, lemme pastebin it
[01:17] <urlin2u> marezz, you can run compiz --replace to get ity back logout and try the other suggestion.
[01:17] <marezz> urlin2u,  Is metacity -replace temporary? It wont stay like that next time I boot right?
[01:17] <Polah> miktor: Why do you need to mount a specific location at a separate points. If you mounted /dev/sda1 already you can just navigate down through that to get to your music folder and add a link to that in your ~/.gtk-bookmarks
[01:17] <marezz> urlin2u, Ok, thanks, will try it now
[01:18] <Dogget> @Action Sorry I really can't get through the Printer install :-(
[01:18] <a_p3rson> luigi: it needs sudo permissions correct?
[01:18] <a_p3rson> freshclam?
[01:18] <luigi> miktor: Wait a minute, that file it's mounting doesn't exist.
[01:18] <luigi> a_p3rson: I'm not sure.
[01:18] <luigi> Possibly.
[01:18] <a_p3rson> ok
[01:18] <th0r> a_p3rson: what are you trying to do?
[01:18] <luigi> miktor: What you want looks to be a symbolic link between the two directories. That's not done in fstab.
[01:19] <a_p3rson> th0r: when using clamtk, the antivirus engine is reported as out of date
[01:19] <miktor> luigi: how do i do that then?
[01:19] <luigi> miktor: man ln
[01:19] <th0r> a_p3rson: that is clam itself. I think there is an update in the repo
[01:19] <marzen> hi all, i know this is a minor issue but it's been happening for quite some time .. when I maximize a flash video it doesn't resize to my screen width, it simply pops up at the same size with a very large black border
[01:19] <marzen> anyone know how i can fix that?
[01:20] <willwh> marzen: any flash video?
[01:20] <th0r> a_p3rson: the latest is 0.97.2, and I have it here in debian. I might have picked it off the clam website, now that I think of it
[01:20] <Gentoo64> marzen, maybe its a 4:3 video
[01:20] <willwh> or is this a specific flash player on a specific website?
[01:20] <willwh> marzen: ?
[01:20] <marzen> Gentoo64: it's all videos, mostly youtube vids
[01:20] <marzen> sorry, got booted, guess floodbots didn't like my quick comments
[01:20] <th0r> a_p3rson: btw, freshclam will fetch the latest antivirus signatures, not the antivirus engine
[01:21] <HaH-Tarball> a_3person: you can update clamav engine adding this PPA: launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clamav/+archive/ppa
[01:21] <marzen> there are some that play correctly, such as vimeo ... but all youtube and most others have this issue
[01:21] <marezz> urlin2u, Polah , thanks guys, video is playing normally now! :)
[01:21] <JodaZ> anyonen knows a good program to mount a scp server on windows ?
[01:21] <a_p3rson> luigi: th0r: |      gksu freshclam      | gives this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/665367/
[01:21] <HaH-Tarball> a_3person: it will be updated to 0.97.2
[01:21] <Dogget> Anybody kind enough to help me install the drivers for my Brother MFC-J265W: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#MFC-J265W
[01:22] <a_p3rson> HaH-Tarball: will try
[01:22] <a_p3rson> Dogget: i have that, you will need some files
[01:22] <Dogget> AH ok P3rson. Can you help at all?
[01:23] <Gentoo64> Dogget, have you tried downloading the deb and clicking it?
[01:23] <a_p3rson> Dogget: sure, lemme get this clamav thing figured out
[01:23] <a_p3rson> Dogget: ^^
[01:23] <willwh> Dogget: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BrotherDriverPackaging
[01:24] <Dogget> Sure P3rson, I will wait thank you :-)
[01:24] <green_top> marzen: Are you running twinview/multimonitor?
[01:24] <a_p3rson> HaH-Tarball: it asks for a apt line...i am blanking here
[01:25] <marzen> green_top: yes, 2 monitors
[01:25] <HaH-Tarball> a_p3rson: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 5ADC2037
[01:26] <Costanza> lol now i managed to bakup the bootloader but not mbr
[01:26] <green_top> marzen: known bug I believe. I get the same issue as well.
[01:27] <a_p3rson> HaH-Tarball: is that it?
[01:27] <HaH-Tarball> You must do this command to add its APT-Key
[01:27] <marzen> green_top: odd, i've never had this issue until my latest update a couple weeks ago
[01:28] <HaH-Tarball> a_p3rson: this adds its APT key
[01:28] <HaH-Tarball> a_3person: then, this command opens sources list: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:28] <a_p3rson> Dogget: go here: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#MFC-J265W    and download the LPR and the cupswrapper files
[01:29] <green_top> marzen: for youtube, I use FlashVideoReplacer with SMPlayer as a replacement.
[01:29] <a_p3rson> then?
[01:29] <Costanza> maybe someone can take a look of this, http://tinypaste.com/b73cb if you understand how to back up both of them, thx
[01:30] <a_p3rson> HaH-Tarball: then what?
[01:30] <HaH-Tarball> a_person: add this line at the end of the file:  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clamav/ppa/ubuntu YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION_HERE main
[01:30] <HaH-Tarball> a_3person: replace YOUR_UBUNTU_VERSION with lucid or whatever version you have
[01:30] <sedulous> i'm not sure for which package to file this bug i'm having, libopenal1 or liblwjgl-java... (liblwjgl-java searches for libopenal1.so but libopenal1 only contains libopenal.1.so.* (no symlink))
[01:31] <Dogget> rpm or deb P3rson?
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> a_p3rson: Dogget has a 64bit OS and the debs are 32bit
[01:31] <a_p3rson> HaH-Tarball: or, i could use the software sources option too
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: I gave the debs you need
[01:31] <sedulous> the debian libopenal1 package does have the libopenal1.so symlink
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: you may need to force install them
[01:31] <a_p3rson> ActionParsnip: Dogget: Ohhhhh
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> a_p3rson: exactly
[01:31] <Dogget> Well I donwload the dbe ones then
[01:32] <HaH-Tarball> a_p3rson: I've never tried it that way, but it may works
[01:32] <Dogget> Ok downloaded guys
[01:32] <a_p3rson> Dogget: i didnt know that you were x64, sorry but i dont think my way will work
[01:33] <a_p3rson> HaH-Tarball: yep, found 4 new updates for clamav
[01:33] <Dogget> Brother says the 32 should work too
[01:33] <HaH-Tarball> a_3person: Good. Try "sudo freshclam" after the update ;-)
[01:33] <HaH-Tarball> a_3person: sorry, upgrade
[01:33] <a_p3rson> HaH-Tarball: its listed as a post-install command, should do it automatically
[01:33] <Dogget> Man I got rid of hp because their printers were bad, canon printer died on me and I moved to Brother
[01:34] <HaH-Tarball> a_3person: Good.
[01:34] <a_p3rson> HaH-Tarball: by the way, there is only 1 three in my name: a_p3rson
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: HP loves linux
[01:35] <HaH-Tarball> a_p3rson: Sorry for the typo.
[01:35] <Dogget> Well I have a brother Action and happy with it
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: if you download thoses debs I listed you may be able to force install them and get it going. This is one of the reasons why 32bit is recommended
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: oh brother is great :)
[01:35] <Dogget> Any specific command guys?
[01:35] <Dogget> Brother is your brother :-)
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: sudo dpkg --force-all -i filename
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> Dogget: download and install the debs in the order I gave in the pastebin
[01:37] <ohzie> ActionParsnip: My new HP's sound doesn't work. :( Other than that, everything is wonderful.
[01:37] <a_p3rson> HaH-Tarball: perfect, i see a row of green checkmarks, thankyou
[01:37] <Dogget> Any specific command Action?
[01:37] <Dogget> Or just double-click install?
[01:37] <ohzie> ActionParsnip: Would you be willing to point me in the right direction for troubleshooting it? Not 100% sure what to search for on the googles.
[01:37] <HaH-Tarball> a_p3rson: You're welcome! Enjoy your upgraded ClamAV.
[01:37] <mrdeb> how come ubuntu doesnt need drivers but windows does
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> !sound | ohzie
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: a lot of them are part of the default install
[01:38] <mrdeb> why
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> mrdeb: makes life easy
[01:39] <Guest10127> yes hello, how would i go about applying a patch like this? http://lists.berlios.de/pipermail/bcm43xx-dev/2008-December/005001.html
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> !pathc | Guest10127
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> !patch
[01:41] <ohzie> ActionParsnip: Replacing alsa with OSS? OSS is still even around?
[01:41] <ohzie> XD
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: there is an alsa info script, if you can get the output of that then we can advise
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: sure OSS is around http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=OSS&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> duckduckgo has a bang for searching the packages, neat :)
[01:45] <redgetan> im having problems booting my wubi-based ubuntu 10.04 (dual boot windows + ubuntu).  here is the error msg
[01:46] <redgetan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/665380/
[01:46] <indy__> hello all
[01:46] <KM0201> o/
[01:46] <redgetan> ive been trying to follow instructions in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1167710 but it hasn't been helpful so far
[01:46] <tabakhase> lol
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[01:47] <tabakhase> i just recoverd a dead usb stick, how? "plug in on a booted ubuntu" -.-
[01:47] <indy__> I would like to ask you if someone is able to help me to make the wilress work on a amilo xa 1526 with natty 32 bit. It seems that one have to load the sis136u driver using ndiswrapper. I did it but with no results. Any idea?
[01:47] <urlin2u> redgetan, read carefully. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1639198
[01:48] <redgetan> urlin2u: thanks, i'll take a look at that
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> indy__: did you modprobe ndiswrapper ?
[01:49] <Bookman> I have a USB pendrive that I can no longer delete files on.  Is there a reason for this?
[01:49] <urlin2u> redgetan, no problem, bare in mind wubi is a bit different so look for that when fixing.
[01:49] <indy__> ActionParsnip I am pretty sure I did it. Anyway I did it now
[01:50] <TheHackOps> Hey, does anyone know why my mic decided to disappear on me this morning?
[01:51] <je0rJey> can somebody please post their config file for newsbeuter
[01:52] <indy__> ActionParsnip I modprobe'd it and now I restarted the networking. No results
[01:52] <TheHackOps> Hey, does anyone know why my mic decided to disappear on me this morning?
[01:53] <je0rJey> can someone please post their config file for newsbeuter..
[01:54] <Cradam> for newswhater
[01:54] <greggg> When capturing audio input through the rear mic, sound is very low and muffled--if I tap on my microphone I hear barely-audible thud-thud-thud's. I checked in alsamixer that the rear mic is not muted, and set the rear mic boost to 100%. Any ideas on how to go about getting the rear mic to work properly? I'm running Natty.
[01:54] <Bookman> I cannot even delete files on my USB thumb drive
[01:55] <TheHackOps> greggg, do you know how to get my mic to even work
[01:55] <craigbass1976> Is there some trick to burning a wmv to dvd so that it will play in a regular dvd payer?
[01:55] <urlin2u> Bookman, is there a trash on the thumb?
[01:56] <TheHackOps> craigbass1976, Convert it, then burn it
[01:56] <bazhang> craigbass1976, convert using handbrake, then use devede
[01:56] <TheHackOps> hehe bazhang
[01:56] <bazhang> !handbrake | craigbass1976
[01:56] <bazhang> craigbass1976, there is also a PPA for handbrake
[01:56] <TheHackOps> bazhang, could you please help me with my mic problem?
[01:56] <Bookman> urlin2u, nope
[01:57] <bazhang> TheHackOps, not enough info, give the channels tons more info first
[01:57] <greggg> TheHackOps: The mic works properly when using the front port.
[01:58] <urlin2u> Bookman, so what are the symptoms, right click and delete nothing happens?
[01:58] <greggg> TheHackOps: Oh sorry misread what you typed. I am not sure.
[01:58] <TheHackOps> bazhang, ok so this morning i woke up and i went to use Google plus and it said no mic was found, when i went to check the sound properties it was all greyed out and that is where im at
[01:58] <TheHackOps> greggg, i can help you aswell if u want
[01:59] <Bookman> urlin2u, yes.  the option to send to trash is greyed out.  If I select a file and press delete key, nothing happens
[01:59] <escott> Bookman, can you !paste the output of "mount"
[01:59] <TheHackOps> Bookman, check your permisions for ur account
[01:59] <urlin2u> Bookman, hit ctrl-h and see if there is a trash hidden, and it may be full.
[02:01] <Bookman> urlin2u, no hidden trash directories
[02:02] <TheHackOps> nvm i fixed it
[02:02] <TheHackOps> thanks!!!
[02:02] <Dogget> Still no luck guys for the printer issue...man oh man I don't want to use Windows!
[02:03] <bazhang> Dogget, what driver does linuxprinting.org say that printer should use
[02:03] <bazhang> Dogget, from their printer database
[02:03] <malaphus> Hello friends.
[02:04] <Dogget> From here Bazhang: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#MFC-J265W
[02:04] <indy__> ActionParsnip Is it normal that modprobe -l |grep ndiswrapper gives the same result before and after loading the module?
[02:04] <Dogget> Two good fellas tried to help me but I am still running after the install!
[02:05] <malaphus> I just installed 11.04 server (everything was fine, booted clean), then I did a dist-upgrade to get the box up to date and now when I boot, I get about 10-15 lines before the initial login prompt telling me the detected capacity of all 3 of my MD devices changed from 0 to <whatever they are>, anybody seen this before?
[02:05] <Bookman> escott, http://pastebin.com/2g8aKkRA
[02:05] <urlin2u> Bookman, fixing dinner now somebody will get you running. ;)
[02:06] <ross_> How do I reduce the temperatures of my cpu and laptop in general
[02:06] <bazhang> ross_, ##hardware please
[02:07] <ross_> oh sorry
[02:07] <Dogget> Bazhang I am running Ubuntu 10.10 64 bits
[02:07] <K-Rich> hey all
[02:07] <Dogget> As I can't install 11.04 at all I am keeping this version on.
[02:07] <Bookman> Anyone else have an idea about my unwritable usb stick?
[02:08] <escott> Bookman, does id say uid=1000(keithclark)
[02:08] <Bookman> escott, ?
[02:08] <rypervenche> Bookman: maybe root is the owner?
[02:08] <escott> Bookman, type "id" in terminal what is your uid
[02:09] <Bookman> uid is keithclark
[02:10] <escott> Bookman, i need the #
[02:10] <Bookman> escott, uid=1000(keithclark)
[02:11] <escott> Bookman, ok. what error do you get with "touch /media/KINGSTON/test_touch.txt; rm /media/KINGSTON/test_touch.txt"
[02:13] <Bookman> escott, http://pastebin.com/VG4D9tyW
[02:15] <nronksr> the hyperlink when you first enter by ubuntu is invalid.  It needs the : removed from before the http to function properly. :)
[02:16] <jamesw> hi
[02:16] <escott> Bookman, thats odd. try sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/KINGSTON; touch /media/KINGSTON/test_touch.txt
[02:17] <jamesw> can someone please point me to more general canonical chat?
[02:17] <Bookman> escott, sucess
[02:17] <bender_> what up everybody
[02:17] <bazhang> jamesw, there is none, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[02:17] <jamesw> what about for employees?
[02:17] <escott> Bookman, thats really odd. because mount said it was rw mounted. im not sure what the root cause of this is
[02:18] <Bookman> escott, yup, weird
[02:18] <bazhang> jamesw, use alis. thats not really an ubuntu support question
[02:18] <bazhang> !alis | jamesw
[02:18] <Bookman> escott, I can solve most of my issues on my own, but not this one
[02:18] <jamesw> bazhang: ty
[02:21] <Bookman> escott, I cannot even format it with gparted as root
[02:22] <celestial> hey every one i have a problem i have a external monitor that worked correctly in maverick and lucid but i upgraded to natty and it doesnt support the proper resoulution of 1360x768 is ther a app that can fix this easily?
[02:22] <escott> Bookman, was this a promotional give away at a conference?
[02:22] <Dogget> Anything else you can help with Bazhang?
[02:22] <Bookman> escott, nope.  I bought it and it worked fine until I installed Ubuntu 11.10
[02:23] <escott> Bookman, so what error are you getting when you try to format it?
[02:23] <Bookman> escott, the option is greyed out
[02:23] <OerHeks> Bookman does it have a write-protect switch ?
[02:23] <escott> Bookman, did you umount it?
[02:24] <bazhang> Dogget, you installed the drivers?
[02:24] <Bookman> escott, I believe so
[02:24] <escott> Bookman, check if it is listed in `moun`
[02:24] <escott> `mount`
[02:24] <Dogget> No Dude That is the issue I am having
[02:24] <Bookman> Yes it is.  I pasted that here
[02:25] <escott> Bookman, you can't format it if it is mounted
[02:25] <Bookman> escott, ah...let me see
[02:26] <escott> Bookman, you need to "eject" it or sudo umount /media/KINGSTON first
[02:26] <vaihi> Hello all.  Just setting up a laptop in 11.04  Installed in English and want to switch entirely to French.  Is this possible?
[02:26] <bazhang> vaihi, sure
[02:26] <Bookman> escott, formatting now!
[02:26] <rypervenche> vaihi: Bien sûr que oui^^
[02:26] <Dogget> @Bazhang: I need to obvisouly install the 64 bits version of the MFC-J265W drivers
[02:27] <bazhang> Dogget, do they exist?
[02:27] <vaihi> ryper how do I do this
[02:28] <nronksr> celestial: add the resolution via xrandr.  Do you know how to do that?
[02:28] <escott> vaihi, "language support" application
[02:28] <celestial> nronksr no i dontis a config file
[02:29] <rypervenche> vaihi: Je t'ai envoyé un PV.
[02:29] <vaihi> This laptop is for my daughter and her family to use.  I speak French but am an expat and I am living in Tahiti
[02:30] <nronksr> celestial: try this: cvt 1360 768 60 << 60 being your refresh rate.  You could use 75 or whatever as long as you know what it uses w/o blowing up at that resolution.
[02:30] <nronksr> celestial: that's going to give you the modeline.
[02:30] <Dogget> Well not sure dude, I am not even sure I am trying the 32bits install correctly anyway
[02:31] <nronksr> celestial: if you have xrandr, you can then:  xrandr --newmode "1360x760" (and copy all the data from the modeline "" to the end of the line.  ie:  xrandr --newmode "1360x768" 84.75 1360 1432 1568 1776 768 771 781 798 -hsync + vsync (that's my monitor) - copy your own modeline.
[02:32] <rypervenche> vaihi: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17528/change-the-user-interface-language-in-ubuntu/
[02:34] <JakeR003> i did it because of love! don't hate me
[02:34] <bazhang> JakeR003, ?
[02:34] <JakeR003> nothing
[02:35] <JakeR003> i have this idea in my brain.. FORMAT! FORMAT!
[02:35] <bazhang> !ot | JakeR003
[02:35] <Flannel>  /lastlog JakeR003
[02:35] <Flannel> blah
[02:35] <JakeR003> i don't type alot. don't worry
[02:36] <JakeR003> infact i finished customizing my ubuntu. so i will be leaving soon
[02:36] <JakeR003> you won't see me in a year or more
[02:38] <jamesw> assuming i have the ability to install packages and run scripts  remotely on a system i administer, what is the easiest way to set up vnc or an x server or something so i can visually admin it via gui?
[02:38] <escott> jamesw, ssh -X ... sudo synaptic
[02:38] <poseidon> what is gnome's package name?
[02:39] <poseidon> to get the gdm
[02:39] <Flannel> poseidon: gdm
[02:39] <Dogget> Still no luck Bazhang I guess. Guess I have to use windows for printing...and it sucks big time!
[02:41] <jamesw> thanks escott, this is close to what i want, any other ideas so i don't have to set up an x server locally? i am on a mac, it would be great to have vnc connect out to me
[02:42] <maheanuu> ryper this is maheanuu, I have installed 11.04 on my daughters puter but can't seem to get the system to be in french as that is the mother tongue here
[02:42] <escott> !vnc | jamesw any other solution will be more complex
[02:42] <haosdent> hello,this is my first time go to #ubuntu
[02:42] <edbian> haosdent: hello
[02:42] <jamesw> thank you escott
[02:43] <maheanuu> rypervenche this is maheanuu, so you would recommend Mint for a newbie over 11.04?
[02:44] <edbian> maheanuu: I would not.  ubuntu has a better upgrade path
[02:44] <rypervenche> maheanuu: Both are fine. Use whichever you like. Stick with Ubuntu if you already have it installed.
[02:44] <rww> Ubuntu also has this channel for support. Mint is an unofficial derivative, so it isn't supported here, and Mint's IRC channel is... less active.
[02:44] <edbian> rww: smart choice of words
[02:45] <maheanuu> My problem is the set up from the beginning, my french is lousy from a reading writing pov, but I speak pidgin  I am older than dirt and the family has had nothing but probs with windoze so I am trying to switch us all over to Ubuntu
[02:46] <maheanuu> I love Ubuntu but I havent switched to 11.04 as I didn't like the new layout
[02:46] <rww> !classic
[02:46] <escott> maheanuu, did you use the "language support" application
[02:46] <edbian> maheanuu: You can run 11.04 and still use the gnome 2.x interface
[02:46] <maheanuu> I set them up in English and now want to get everything in french if possible
[02:47] <tabakhase> installed ubuntu, installed windows. installed grub from livecd, grub->windows worked, grub->ubuntu worked, grub->windows sont work annymore?! windows is 5 minutes ago, commands issued during the ubuntu session: none, just reboot. ideas? (windows stops with black screen blinkin coursor)
[02:48] <edbian> tabakhase: Log into ubuntu and run sudo update-grub
[02:49] <tabakhase> edbian should this make a difference? already done it from livecd on chroot
[02:49] <escott> tabakhase, hit F8 when booting windows and try safe-mode
[02:49] <edbian> tabakhase: It should make all the OSs bootable from grub
[02:50] <maheanuu> edbian, I know I have them switched to classic on their laptop but havent been able to get the french language for system so far
[02:50] <tabakhase> escott stays at the blinking coursor
[02:50] <escott> tabakhase, do you get any kind of windows splash screen?
[02:51] <tabakhase> edbian "it should", and before ive booted ubuntu ive already booted windows from grub once (livecd shutdown, grub->win7=worked)
[02:51] <tabakhase> escott absolutely nothing
[02:52] <escott> tabakhase, in that case grub may not be handing over to windows correctly try and reinstall grub
[02:52] <edbian> tabakhase: I realize you are seeing strange behavior.  I suggest you keep trying things until you can get something that is at least consistent.
[02:52] <tabakhase> edbian as usual ;-)
[02:53] <tabakhase> ecanto reinstall from livecd or harddisk ubuntu?
[02:53] <jwiggins> I switched my video card from a NVIDIA series to an Intel HD3000 (Sandy Bridge). The /etc/X11/xorg.conf file is customized for NVIDIA. How would I regenerate this for my Intel HD3000? I did install the edge sources for xorg intel drivers.
[02:53] <urlin2u> tabakhase, did you update windows and get the sp1 installed?
[02:53] <bindi_> Shouldnt all 2.6 kernels have hz=1000?
[02:54] <bindi_> I checked and my ubuntu is running at 250 :(
[02:54] <tabakhase> and ive checked /boot/grub/grub.conf the win entry looks little funy, but the UUID is fine http://nopaste.php-quake.net/54948
[02:54] <tabakhase> urlin2u release march2011 so sp1 included
[02:55] <urlin2u> tabakhase, cool the sp1 changes the mbr, just wondering with a fresh install.
[02:55] <escott> jwiggins, remove the xorg.conf most likely
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> jwiggins: just rename the file, see if udev picks it up ok
[02:55] <jwiggins> okay I will give that a shot, right now 3D apps are running just throwing NV errors
[02:56] <jwiggins> be back in a min restarting X
[02:56] <escott> tabakhase, --no-flop[p]y i assume you typo'ed?
[02:56] <tabakhase> escott yes ;-)
[02:57] <escott> tabakhase, you are also missing --class windows --class os declarations between the menuentry and the curly-brackets
[02:58] <escott> bindi_, hertz are configurable and have been for years
[02:58] <bindi_> escott: on the fly?
[02:58] <escott> bindi_, no but during the make kernel-config
[02:58] <bindi_> escott: well I don't do that. why isnt it 1000 by default?
[02:59] <hellothere> hello
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> hi hellothere
[02:59] <hellothere> hello ActionParsnip
[02:59] <hellothere> i am wondering
[02:59] <escott> bindi_, because they decided 250 was better. can't tell you the reasoning on that.
[02:59] <hellothere> what is the difference between compiling software vs packages?
[03:00] <nimbiotics> Hello all. (using ubuntu 11.04) I downloaded the latest version of vuze and jre but i still cant make vuze work. The output i'm getting is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/665406/ Can someone help me make this work? TIA!
[03:00] <jwiggins> Seems to have worked, still get error "Xlib:  extension "NV-GLX" missing on display 0.0" running google-earth but glxgears is at 60fps with no artifacts.
[03:00] <edbian> hellothere: a package is software that has already been compiled
[03:00] <jwiggins> should I be concerned about the NV-GLX error if I don't have a NVIDIA card?
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> hellothere: packages are ready made bnaries, compiling source will allow you to use your own options and you can make a package from your compiled binaries
[03:00] <hellothere> edbian: is there an advantage to compiling?
[03:00] <haosdent> compiling software don't need to compile ^_^
[03:01] <escott> jwiggins, did you switch your libGL to point to the mesa gl stack
[03:01] <hellothere> so there pratically is no difference between a compile install vs a package install?
[03:01] <edbian> hellothere: You can get older / newer versions by compiling
[03:01] <indy__> hello again. On my amilo xa 1526 with natty 32 biti loaded the sis136u driver using ndiswrapper, but while I say "sudo start networking" the answer is "networking stop/waiting". What can I do to make wlan0 work?
[03:01] <edbian> hellothere: sometimes you cannot find a compiled version of the file so you have to compile it yourself
[03:01] <tabakhase> escott in real  --class windows --class os  are existent
[03:01] <jwiggins> escott, I did not, and I do not know how to do that. Any pointers or just google it?
[03:02] <edbian> hellothere: The package install is much different.  It automatically updates, allows you to easily uninstall, and handles dependencies
[03:02] <hellothere> kk
[03:02] <escott> hellothere, if you want to compile everything there is an entire distro dedicated to that process called gentoo
[03:02] <edbian> hellothere: You should always install packages from the repos first.  Only compile / install by hand if you have to
[03:02] <zelozelos> hellothere, sometimes its better to get the prog from the repo, occasionaly it dosent exist but no packages are there for that type of sys,
[03:02] <hellothere> ebdian: thanks for the help
[03:02] <escott> jwiggins, did you install the updated mesa stack?
[03:02] <edbian> hellothere: sure
[03:02] <hellothere> brb guys
[03:02] <tabakhase> ive just fired up windows repair, he detected smth on partition list while doing "fix startup"...
[03:02] <hellothere> mIRC is killing me.
[03:02] <edbian> hellothere: :)
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> jwiggins: make sure you disable vdpau in your apps and it won't mona
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> *moan
[03:03] <zelozelos> hellothere, compiling just points to the parts of the program thats needed to run , like sound device etc
[03:03] <jwiggins> escott, I do not believe so unless it was part of the xorg edge
[03:03] <tabakhase> 1. its still grub bootloader
[03:03] <tabakhase> 2. klick on win7 still brings the black screen and a coursor -.-
[03:04] <indy__> one thing more: dmesg says "couldn't load driver sis163u" and "couldn't prepare driver sis163u". what can I do?
[03:04] <escott> jwiggins, you need to have libgl1-mesa-dri                 7.11
[03:04] <zelozelos> tabakhase, sounds like you messed up the winloader program, thers a program that will fix it, but you'll have 2 google it i dont remember its name
[03:04] <urlin2u> tabakhase, if you don't get running, run this script and pastebin the text file.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[03:05] <zelozelos> tabakhase, its something similar to win.msi or .mui or something close to that
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> indy__: from the windows driver?
[03:05] <jwiggins> escott, apt-get saysI have the latest "libgl1-mesa-dri"
[03:05] <jwiggins> escott, so I guess I have it, maybe it is not set to be used?
[03:05] <hellothere> back
[03:05] <escott> jwiggins, i dont care what apt-get says you have. i care what dpkg -l "*mesa*" says you have
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> indy__: you will need to download the driver for windows and use it in ndisgtk
[03:06] <hellothere> anyhows... so it isn't that compiling is "cleaner" than packages
[03:06] <jwiggins> escott, :) one moment, thank you for working with me
[03:06] <edbian> hellothere: what do you mean by cleaner??
[03:06] <tabakhase> urlin2u im on the way.
[03:06] <edbian> hellothere: I would say 'no' because it throws files all around and the package install gives an easy way to remove them (compiled installed are hard to uninstall)
[03:06] <zelozelos> if i installed a compiled program via sudo make install, and deleted the compiling folders, how do i remove the installed program?
[03:06] <indy__> ActionParsnip from the windows driver 32 bit (I am on 32 bit) for windows 7 and vista
[03:06] <tabakhase> zelozelos a keyword more than "winloader" would be awesome? ;-)
[03:07] <urlin2u> tabakhase, cool you have some great help but missing info. ;)
[03:07] <jwiggins> escott, "ii  libgl1-mesa-dri                             7.12.0~git20110811.9cd64ec3-0ubuntu0sarvatt free implementation of the OpenGL API -- DRI modules"
[03:07] <sniggel> Hello, I am trying to mount an NFS export that is on my CentOS 6 onto my Ubuntu client v 11.04. I exported the folder as rw but I cannot write or make any changes to the mount (it is correctly mounted). When I do ll on the forlder, I notice these permissions drwxr-xr-x and the owner is a number (not my own username).
[03:07] <zelozelos> tabakhase, im looking for it now sorry so vague
[03:07] <tabakhase> ;-)
[03:07] <hellothere> edbian: how do you uninstall a compile btw?
[03:07] <sav_> ActionParsnip! You still here?
[03:08] <edbian> hellothere: You go to every file it dropped and delete that file manually.
[03:08] <escott> jwiggins, i guess edge pulled that in. did it also give you a 3.0 kernel?
[03:08] <gogeta> hellothere: you need to have the souce still make uninstall
[03:08] <hyperstream> Gah, how do i stop the panel on the left(with all active/common/pinned applications ~ replaced the taskbar style.) from staying out. I hovered over it an hour ago and it never went back in.(First time)
[03:08] <jwiggins> escott, no I am still at 2.6.38-10-generic
[03:08] <hellothere> kk guys
[03:08] <edbian> hellothere: There is no good way to know where all the files are.  Sometimes the developer puts an 'uninstall script' in the software.
[03:08] <gogeta> hellothere: do a make uninstall from the compiled dir
[03:08] <phrostbite> I have my laptop running ubuntu connected to my tv and in th etop left it has the word "Mirror" how do I remove that?
[03:08] <edbian> hellothere: That makes it very easy.  But typically there is no such script
[03:08] <hellothere> gogeta: kk
[03:08] <sav_> Edbian: Hello again.
[03:08] <jwiggins> escott, was a little hesitant on the 3.0 update
[03:09] <gogeta> hellothere: if you dont still have the source you gotta do it by hand
[03:09] <edbian> hellothere: However this is mostly about installing vs. uninstalling. Where installing means copying certain files to certain places in the system.  compiling does not mean installing necessarily.  They usually are done together though
[03:09] <edbian> sav_: hi.  I don't remember you :(
[03:09] <zelozelos> tabakhase, i guess since its not a q about ubuntu i should send you a pm
[03:09] <hellothere> kk gogeta and edbian
[03:09] <sav_> edbian: Was here the other night with a corrupted drive. Guess you help a lot of people.
[03:10] <edbian> hellothere: :)
[03:10] <hyperstream> Is there some sort of way i can reset/restart this side bar ?
[03:10] <edbian> sav_: I do :)  I remember vaguely though.
[03:10] <edbian> sav_: Can you not get Ubuntu to boot?
[03:10] <edbian> sav_: Do you have a strange 3 way external hdd cable?
[03:10] <luigi> hellothere: make install in a chroot, see where it put files
[03:10] <gogeta> hellothere: the best way to avoide that porblem is when you compile the code make a deb file as well so apt can handel it
[03:10] <sav_> edbian: The second thing is true, the first thing is way off the mark
[03:10] <jwiggins> escott, I will go ahead and do the 3.0 upgrade, since that is easy enough to revert
[03:10] <hellothere> kk guys
[03:10] <hellothere> i'll be back
[03:11] <hellothere> i hate mIRC atm
[03:11] <sav_> edbian: The drive never had important data on it
[03:11] <escott> jwiggins, i dont know if thats enough. check with edge, but the kernel needs to step with the mesa stack. in any case is everything in "locate libGL | xargs ls -l" pointing at mesa
[03:11] <edbian> sav_: hahah Trying to remember you :)
[03:11] <sav_> edbian: It's fried to death somehow, nothing I did helped.
[03:11] <phrostbite> I have my laptop running ubuntu connected to my tv and in th etop left it has the word "Mirror" how do I remove that?
[03:11] <edbian> hahaha hellothere is funny
[03:11] <edbian> sav_: Is this drive in a laptop?
[03:12] <sav_> edbian: Nope.
[03:12] <sav_> edbian: It's external.
[03:12] <edbian> sav_: Can you boot ubuntu while the drive is connected?  (on a liveCD or otherwise)
[03:12] <sav_> edbian: I don't know why you keep asking that.
[03:12] <sav_> edbian: It's a blank external.
[03:13] <edbian> sav_: Sorry :P  Maybe we should start from the beginning because I don't remember. What is the issue in it's entirety
[03:13] <edbian> ??
[03:14] <jwiggins> escott, http://pastebin.com/957EnBPn
[03:14] <sav_> edbian: No, no, that isn't necessary at all. I just cannot do anything with it. I'm sure it's fried. There is no removing the corruption from that disk.
[03:14] <jwiggins> escott, I believe the answer is no
[03:14] <tabakhase> urlin2u http://nopaste.php-quake.net/55016 bootinfoscript run from the installed ubuntu
[03:14] <edbian> sav_: ooooh ok :)
[03:15] <tabakhase> sdb and sdc are just USB
[03:15] <sav_> edbian: Ok would be a bad way to describe it.
[03:15] <hyperstream> And non of the CCSM unity reveal positions are changing
[03:15] <hyperstream> Anyway to remove unity back to the older?
[03:15] <edbian> hyperstream: log out, click your name, change the session, log in
[03:16] <hyperstream> edbian, Thank you!!
[03:16] <phrostbite> I have my laptop running ubuntu connected to my tv and in th etop left it has the word "Mirror" how do I remove that?
[03:16] <edbian> hyperstream: sure
[03:17] <zelozelos> phrostbite, close the monitor options program
[03:17] <phrostbite> Hmm. I did and no effect.
[03:17] <jwiggins> escott, BRB booting 3.x
[03:17] <escott> jwiggins, i think this may be nvidia /usr/lib32/libGL.so.275.21. check with apt-file search? google earth appears to ship with its own version of GLU don't know how that works maybe its just mesa?>
[03:18] <szal> sav_: 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX' didn't help?  (attn: COMPLETE DATA LOSS)
[03:19] <sav_> szal: I left it for hours. The operation never finished. The way dmesg looks, it seems as though it was totally unable to do anything.
[03:19] <indy__> ActionParsnip I have installed the windows driver using ndisgtk. It says "hardware recognized", but I have the same answer from the command "sudo start networking": I obtain ""networking stop/waiting"
[03:19] <indy__> ActionParsnip I feel that I am very close to the solution but I don't know how to proceed
[03:19] <sav_> szal: Hence why I'm totally sure this thing is fried to death, regardless of how recently I got it.
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> indy__: is ndiswrapper module loaded?
[03:20] <szal> sav_: RMA then
[03:20] <hellothere007> hello again
[03:20] <hellothere007> i was hellothere a while ago
[03:20] <sav_> szal: I got it for free from a friend. Can't do that.
[03:20] <edbian> hellothere007: :)
[03:20] <indy__> ActionParsnip yes, I can see it with lsmod.
[03:20] <sav_> szal: C'est la vie.
[03:21] <hellothere007> edbian... are you using windows atm?
[03:21] <urlin2u> tabakhase, when having problems always remove the usb devices they have boot flags. Okay widows sda3 reads as busy, and shows no boot files, probably due to not mounting, if it were me I would run a chkdsk /f/r on the sda3 partition, or at least figure out why it is not mounting.
[03:21] <edbian> hellothere007: Sir!  I'm insulted!
[03:21] <jwiggins> escott, running 3.x now same error with google-earth as you predicted.
[03:21] <indy__> ActionParsnip I have errors in dmesg like: "cant load driverssis163u"
[03:21] <edbian> hellothere007: No I'm using Debian right now :)
[03:21] <hellothere007> sorry edbian... :D
[03:21] <sav_> Oh hey, all the people who ever helped me with this problem are here at once.
[03:21] <edbian> hellothere007: no worries
[03:21] <hellothere007> i'm tring to find a irc client
[03:21] <edbian> sav_: hi
[03:21] <hellothere007> for windows that works
[03:21] <bazhang> hellothere007, ubuntu support question?
[03:22] <centHOGG> mirc
[03:22] <hellothere007> edbian: mIRC isn't as good as mibbit.com
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> indy__: then the ndiswrapper isn't configured right. Is there no native driver?
[03:22] <rypervenche> edbian: Thumbs up to you good sir!
[03:22] <sav_> edbian: Er, hi?
[03:22] <sniggel> Hello, I am trying to mount an NFS export that is on my CentOS 6 onto my Ubuntu client v 11.04. I exported the folder as rw but I cannot write or make any changes to the mount (it is correctly mounted). When I do ll on the forlder, I notice these permissions drwxr-xr-x and the owner is a number (not my own username). I would like to mount it so I can actually rw.
[03:22] <tabakhase> urlin2u just pluged the USBs "now" - chkdsk from winrepair i presume?
[03:22] <indy__> ActionParsnip I cannot pastebin simply because I am without an ethernet cable to connect the two pc, I am passing package by package with an SD stick :)
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> !irc | hellothere007
[03:22] <hellothere007> centHOGG: how do you get the client to highlight your name when it is said?
[03:22] <bazhang> hellothere007, this is ubuntu support; please ask ##windows for windows support
[03:22] <jwiggins> escott, when I run glxinfo I am seeing that it is using GL_VERSION 2.1 Mesa 7.12-devel
[03:22] <centHOGG> not sure
[03:22] <ryoohki> i asked this earlier with now reply:
[03:22] <hellothere007> ok linux question now:
[03:22] <ryoohki> when i do "dpkg -l | egrep -i virtualbox-ose | tr -s ' '" i see "virtualbox-ose 4.0.4-dfsg-1ubuntu4.1" but i can see virtualbox-ose 4.1.0-dfsg-2ubuntu1 is out but when i do "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade" the update never shows up, as well as previous updates like virtualbox-ose  4.0.10-dfsg-1ubuntu1  which was out 2011-07-04( more than a month ago)
[03:22] <edbian> rypervenche: :)
[03:23] <escott> jwiggins, i would be sure to purge any nvidia related stuff
[03:23] <ryoohki> anye idea why the updates are being installed?
[03:23] <urlin2u> tabakhase, the sdc1 has a partial windows boot files /bootmgr /boot/bcd, this may be p[art pof the problem. I would run the chkdsk or start it from the install disc booted to the repair terminal, will ask for one at reboot if it see's sda3
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> ryoohki: could try the virtualbox ppa
[03:23] <escott> jwiggins, personally i would urge patience. the 11.10 release should have the sandy's well supported, and its only another 3 months to release
[03:23] <jwiggins> escott, should I purge and reload the mesa and intel just to be sure too?
[03:24] <indy__> ActionParsnip apparently no: it is a problem that people already had on edgy, stating from ubuntu french, english and italian forums. They solved it using either your way (ndisgtk) or via command line.
[03:24] <jwiggins> escott, okay sounds good, I don't really need 3D that bad, this is a laptop
[03:24] <escott> jwiggins, shouldn't be necessary, but it probably won't hurt
[03:24] <rww> more like two months, actually
[03:24] <tabakhase> urlin2u sdc1 is the windows install disk, booting now....
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> indy__: then make sure it's the right driver, you need the .inf and .sys
[03:24] <urlin2u> tabakhase, with windows not monting we have to sort of peck at it with the regualr options a chkdsk wont hurt for sure.
[03:25] <szal> ryoohki: if VBox-OSE follows the same naming convention as the 'official' VBox, then 4.0 != 4.1 (different pkg name); you could try to just install 4.1; it should remove 4.0 automatically
[03:26] <indy__>  ActionParsnip: I downloaded two drivers: the first was suggested by the french forum and they use it with success, This one  says "hadware not recognized" in ndisgtk. The other driver (Win7/Vista) says "hardware recognized".
[03:26] <jwiggins> escott, thank you for the assistance I will just wait for 11.10 to mess around with 3D again
[03:26] <tabakhase> urlin2u already done a "automatic startup repair" where he found&corrected smth on partition table, but i think he hesnt done the chkdsk, doing it now as soon hes booted
[03:26] <tabakhase> results follow
[03:27] <indy__>  ActionParsnip: but the I cannot start wlan0 and dmesg confirms there is some error
[03:27] <poseidon> I'm about to do an ubuntu install.  Is it possible to force a gnome 2 for the desktop environment?
[03:27] <jwiggins> escott, though all the reconfiguring has seem to resolved the screen artifacts that I was getting occasionally
[03:27] <urlin2u> tabakhase, the auto repairs can be problematic you mentioned it kicked out a grub mention, seemed strange I wondered if grub was not in the widows partiton.
[03:27] <rww> !classic | poseidon
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> indy__: have you ran:  sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:28] <bazhang> poseidon, choose classic, no need to force
[03:28] <ryoohki> szal: thanks!
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> poseidon: the unity desktop also uses Gnome 2
[03:28] <poseidon> bazhang: ok. thanks.  I haven't used a desktop manager in forever, so I'm a little rusty
[03:28] <poseidon> So used to xmonad
[03:28] <poseidon> setting up for someone else
[03:28] <jwiggins> will classic ever be phased out or will Gnome always be a part of Ubuntu?
[03:28] <ActionParsnip> jwiggins: unity2D replaces classic in oneiric
[03:28] <escott> jwiggins, gnome 3 has a different fallback mode
[03:28] <indy__>  ActionParsnip: modprobe is loade, but if you think is useful I can reload it
[03:28] <puffin> Who you setting it up for, aphrodite? oh ho ho
[03:28] <tabakhase> urlin2u there is a "nonactive" broken grub on the win7usb, but shouldnt create any problems..
[03:29] <rww> jwiggins: Unity is built on GNOME. Ubuntu oneiric switches to GNOME 3, and Unity works on top of that. GNOME 3 has a fallback mode that can be used.
[03:29] <ActionParsnip> indy__: if its ni then its ready to rock
[03:29] <jwiggins> ah okay didn't realize that, it just looked so different
[03:29] <BlackArchDog> poseidon: did u ever get to slackware or gentoo and arch linux .. If you had would have learned that ubuntu comes with gnome as defualt
[03:30] <ActionParsnip> BlackArchDog: well the default desktop install does ;)
[03:30] <indy__>  ActionParsnip: first of all thank you for your help. I checked again dmesg and effectively the error comes out while loading ndiswrapper
[03:30] <urlin2u> tabakhase, so run the chkdsk, remove the thumb and the W7 disc when done boot to Ubuntu and run a update-grub, it just may be that W7 was not mounting.
[03:33] <BlackArchDog> ActionParsnip: yes we all know almost every distro does gnome as defualt there are a few distro's that do kde as defualt
[03:33] <tabakhase> urlin2u chkdsk C: /f /r is running, satge 4/5 no errors so far...
[03:33] <tabakhase> 5:30 and there is the sun btw...
[03:33] <BlackArchDog> ActionParsnip: forgot few other distro'
[03:33] <bazhang> !ot | BlackArchDog
[03:33] <urlin2u> tabakhase, okay.
[03:34] <BlackArchDog> bazhang: do you plane on having everyone progressing in the idea of using linux???? I love ubuntu I told this is a start ,but it is never going to be the end all to all of linux
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> BlackArchDog: you can install Ubuntu minimal then install whatever DE you want. The OS will tell you it's ubuntu but you will be using any DE you desire
[03:35] <bazhang> BlackArchDog, and this is not the place to discuss it, as you have been told many times.
[03:35] <rww> BlackArchDog: Hi. You keep being offtopic in #ubuntu. #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. #ubuntu-offtopic is for offtopic chatter. I strongly recommend you stop confusing the two. Thanks :)
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> BlackArchDog: I can name loads of Linuxes not using Gnome, there are more than a few
[03:37] <hellothere> back again
[03:37] <hellothere> after fixing things
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> hi hellothere
[03:37] <hellothere> ActionParsnip: any lightweight linux window managers like windows-style?
[03:38] <Lasers> Windows-style? You mean bloated window manager?
[03:38] <sniggel> Last time I will ask, I will retry tomorrow:  I am trying to mount an NFS export that is on my CentOS 6 onto my Ubuntu client v 11.04. I exported the folder as rw but I cannot write or make any changes to the mount (it is correctly mounted). When I do ll on the forlder, I notice these permissions drwxr-xr-x and the owner is a number (not my own username). I would like to mount it so I can actually rw.
[03:38] <BlackArchDog> ActionParsnip: I can to ... lol I was getting to that ... Sorry been drinking a liqueur... Takes a bit longer for transmission bewteen brain waves sorry
[03:38] <nankura> hellothere try IceWM , its pretty close to windows XP or older, or you can use openbox or XFCE and use a windows theme.
[03:38] <hellothere> nankura: will look into
[03:38] <urlin2u> tabakhase, if the reboot to Ubuntu after the chkdsk, and the update-grub does not work run the bootscript ah=agin so we can se windows and if it's still not mounting and or the boot files are showing.
[03:39] <hellothere> nankura: right now i looked at wvm95 or wahtever it is called and it seems to need adjustments to the distro i'm using.
[03:39] <tabakhase> urlin2u should i try windows first or going to ubuntu straight for getting "save dump&update"?
[03:39] <urlin2u> tabakhase, go to ubuntu first and run update-grub.
[03:40] <tabakhase> k
[03:40] <urlin2u> then reboot to see if windows boots
[03:40] <hellothere> oh... random question to all
[03:40] <ryoohki> szal: adding the vitualbox.org pps and apt-get install virtualbox-4.1 worked
[03:40] <hellothere> how did everbody ease their transition to linux?
[03:40] <ryoohki> szal: ppa, not pps
[03:40] <urlin2u> started with it
[03:40] <bazhang> hellothere, #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:41] <hellothere> bazhang: sorry
[03:41] <david> bonjour
[03:41] <Costanza> i think i got it, in dd  dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/home/sam/MBRboot.image bs=512 count=2 , count=2 means 2 seconds , so top copy 63 sectors i would write 63 there?
[03:41] <hellothere> bazhang: i thought it was ubuntu related.
[03:41] <Costanza> to*
[03:42] <Guest64203> any
[03:42] <Costanza> 2 sectors*
[03:42] <theadmin> hellothere: Yes, but it's not support-related
[03:42] <hellothere> theadmin: kk.
[03:42] <theadmin> hellothere: In this channel, only support questions are accepted.
[03:42] <Guest64203> channel fr
[03:42] <rww> Guest64203: #ubuntu-fr pour francais svp
[03:42] <Guest79855> such a noob question but anybody know how to run .bin?
[03:42] <urlin2u> tabakhase, you understand the update-grub from a terminal I assume?
[03:43] <theadmin> Guest79855: chmod +x whatever.bin ; /path/to/file.bin
[03:43] <tabakhase> urlin2u chkdsk were totaly happy, and hm?
[03:43] <Guest79855> thanks :D
[03:44] <Guest79855> appreciate it a lot :D
[03:44] <theadmin> Guest79855: No problem. If the file is in current directory, you can as well use: ./file.bin
[03:44] <theadmin> Guest79855: Or even $PWD/file.bin, if that looks prettier for you
[03:45] <indy__>  ActionParsnip: SÌÌÌÌÌ!!!! CAZZO CE L'ABBIAMO FATTA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I found the correct driver (it needed the WinNT version)
[03:45] <urlin2u> tabakhase, shut down remi=ove the MS disc and thumb and boot to Ubuntu and in the terminal run sudo update-grub  then reboot to see if windows boots.
[03:45] <tabakhase> urlin2u sure, just wondering about the "you understand the update-grub from a terminal I assume?"
[03:46] <urlin2u> tabakhase, I asked due to this post  "save dump&update"?
[03:47] <urlin2u> tabakhase,  don't know none of due if everybody understands just dotting the i's, crossing the T's
[03:47] <urlin2u> I
[03:47] <centr0> anyone have any experience with virtualbox?  im having trouble starting vboxnet0 at boot and #vbox arent responding :(
[03:47] <indy__>  ActionParsnip: Thank you very much! I have a question. ndiswrapper is always loaded on every reboot or I had to add it somewere?
[03:47] <Dr3am3r> Hi all
[03:48] <hyperstream> edbian, hey champ - my previous issues was cause by a 'update' which had not been restarted to complete everything. As i went to log out to switch sessions it prompted me to restart- everything working as intended ~ thanks again.
[03:48] <edbian> Hyperbyte: glad you figuered it out
[03:48] <Guest79855> @theadmin : Thanks for a quick reply.
[03:49] <Dr3am3r> I am new to Ubuntu and I know you must get this all the time, but I just need few minutes of anyone's time , I would like to build or install a module
[03:49] <rypervenche> Dr3am3r: What exactly are you trying to do ?
[03:49] <theadmin> Guest79855: No problem.
[03:49] <theadmin> Dr3am3r: A kernel module?
[03:49] <Dr3am3r> I downloaded an app/tool for proxy and it says "To install this module, run the following commands:"
[03:50] <Guest79855>  Installation done :D
[03:50] <theadmin> Dr3am3r: Oh... Well, um, just follow those instructions
[03:50] <theadmin> Guest79855: Installation of what, by the way?
[03:50] <luigi> Dr3am3r: Did you run them?
[03:51] <Dr3am3r> using the Terminal ? I don't know where to run them.
[03:51] <theadmin> Dr3am3r: Obviously :/
[03:52] <tabakhase> urlin2u http://nopaste.php-quake.net/55026 and the diff http://nopaste.php-quake.net/55027
[03:52] <Guest79855> Packet tracer
[03:53] <Dr3am3r> This is what I get when I type the first line "Checking prerequisites...
[03:53] <Dr3am3r>  - ERROR: Class::Data::Accessor is not installed"
[03:53] <Guest79855> The gui is like you run it in wine :D
[03:54] <theadmin> Dr3am3r: Seems to be a Perl module, isn't it? Did you try using CPAN?
[03:55] <urlin2u> tabakhase, windows is still not mounting your problem is with windows, you should try #windows for this to be honest. Not trying to push you off but windows is whwere the problem is.
[03:56] <Dr3am3r> it is a Perl module, I'm really new to Ubuntu I have installed it 4 days ago .. so i have no idea what a CPAN is, you can even direct me to a website/Guide or help me understand this.
[03:57] <indy__> I have another issue that I woukd like to ask you, and I hope the result will be successful as for the wifi
[03:57] <theadmin> Dr3am3r: CPAN is a Comprehensive Perl Archive Network, providing an automatic way to install modules. Try this: perl -MCPAN << install whatever::module::you::want
[03:57] <tabakhase> urlin2u mounting sda3 brings me just a device busy, nothing to go further with?
[03:57] <theadmin> Dr3am3r: Err, not <<, but <
[03:57] <indy__> How can I make the Webcam work on my amilo xa 1526? It worked until maverick and in notty is not recognized
[03:58] <tabakhase> forced umount or smth while its not mountet in /proc/mounts?
[03:59] <urlin2u> tabakhase, not really I'm real familiar with boot problems, but the OS's have to be working for me to help, the windows channel though have people who are windows users, and may have better methods for debugging it.
[03:59] <tabakhase> ntfs-3g.probe --readwrite /dev/sda3 returns zero
[04:00] <kanupatar> hello
[04:00] <kanupatar> I am using ubuntu 11.04
[04:00] <root_> hi
[04:00] <tabakhase> urlin2u theyll try killing me when i post "grub" in there ;-)
[04:00] <kanupatar> I would like to use old style task bar
[04:00] <luigi> tabakhase: You're having windows boot problems?
[04:00] <kanupatar> how?
[04:00] <luigi> Maybe I can hlep.
[04:00] <luigi> s/le/el
[04:00] <tabakhase> luigi installed ubuntu, installed windows. installed grub from livecd, grub->windows worked, grub->ubuntu worked, grub->windows sont work annymore?! windows is 5 minutes ago, commands issued during the ubuntu session: none, just reboot. ideas? (windows stops with black screen blinkin coursor)
[04:01] <luigi> tabakhase: Try a different bootloader first.
[04:01] <tabakhase> so grub was able to mount&boot windwos one single time
[04:01] <bazhang> !classic | kanupatar
[04:01] <urlin2u> tabakhase, nah there are many dual booters there they realize a OS is OS, and are there to help, grub is not the problem, you could try putting the MS bootloader in the mbr, but  doubt that would work but worth trying to see if windows boots then.
[04:02] <Jayz> OMG
[04:02] <Jayz> Oneiric is so slow
[04:02] <luigi> tabakhase: Go install ms-sys
[04:02] <Jayz> Hope get best when finish
[04:02] <Jayz> :3
[04:02] <bazhang> Jayz, #ubuntu+1 for that
[04:02] <rww> Jayz: #ubuntu+1 for oneiric discussion and support
[04:02] <Jayz> Is only a coment
[04:02] <luigi> tabakhase: And then try ms-sys -7 /dev/sda HOWEVER IT MAY BREAK THE BOOTLOADER ON THE SYSTEM SO HAVE A LIVE CD
[04:03] <Dr3am3r> theadmin: Build.pl is the one I want to install correct ?
[04:03] <urlin2u> luigi, there is a helper in windows who has a updated ms-sys, even though it is as old as the greeks and not suggested, never know though.
[04:03] <luigi> urlin2u: It's always worked for me... Odd.
[04:03] <tabakhase> urlin2u luigi ok ill do, get me a moment, il be back with news
[04:04] <centHOGG> ms always dinks the mbr
[04:04] <luigi> urlin2u: I personally use archlinux, and ms-sys has worked to replace my BURG bootloader. I don't see why it won't work here, it's the same set up.
[04:04] <indy__> well, it will be for tomorrow
[04:04] <indy__> good night (at 6:04 am!!)
[04:04] <urlin2u> luigi, cool but regular boot loaders work on a working setup, notice the caveat onmy last post.
[04:05] <Jon--> Having an issue with Ubuntu : Headphones go in headphone jack, sound continues to come out of laptop speakers.  Ubuntu 11.04
[04:05] <urlin2u> luigi, did you look at the bootscript posts?
[04:05] <luigi> I don't know what those are.
[04:05] <kanupatar> ubottu: thanks budddy
[04:05] <urlin2u> luigi, you might take a look windows is not mounting anywhere.
[04:05] <luigi> urlin2u: I don't know what they are.
[04:06] <theadmin> luigi: yay Arch xD
[04:06] <luigi> theadmin: This is a support channel. If you'd like to talk about the arch master race we can go to #archlinux-offtopic.
[04:06] <urlin2u> luigi, quite helpful worth learning, hey if you can run arch you can understand the bootscript.;)
[04:06] <theadmin> luigi: Sure, sure.
[04:07] <theadmin> luigi: Or I could PM you if you don't mind.
[04:07] <luigi> urlin2u: I don't understand. Bootscripts native to Ubuntu?
[04:07] <urlin2u> theadmin, lol
[04:07] <luigi> theadmin: I'm good, thanks.
[04:07] <theadmin> urlin2u: Arch bootscripts are nothing like Ubuntu's. Ubuntu uses Upstart. Arch uses SystemD.
[04:07] <tabakhase> luapz_ "win7 successfully written to device" rebooting... bootinfo btw http://nopaste.php-quake.net/55032
[04:07] <urlin2u> luigi, used most often I think in ubuntu.
[04:07] <rwx> when I use emerald my window controls dissapear. Halp?
[04:08] <rww> !emerald
[04:08] <tabakhase> " => Windows is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda."
[04:08] <urlin2u> theadmin, and grub legacy linux is lionux though.
[04:08] <luigi> urlin2u: Arch uses very different boot scripts based on the bsd style system. It's not like the debian upstart and init.d and all that stuff.
[04:08] <urlin2u> luigi, cool well we are way of topic here.
[04:09] <nc__> ??
[04:09] <luigi> tabakhase: Did it boot?
[04:09] <TFGBD> Will 11.10 run on the Xbox 360?
[04:09] <rww> TFGBD: ask #ubuntu+1
[04:10] <TFGBD> Sorry, what does the +1 signify?
[04:10] <nc__> have someone speaking something?
[04:10] <thunsucker> !ubuntu+1 | TFGBD
[04:10] <rww> TFGBD: the one above the current version
[04:10] <TFGBD> Ah, sorry.
[04:11] <TFGBD> Okay, how about 10.10 or 10.04 then?
[04:11] <tabakhase> luigi urlin2u blinking coursor after "verifying DMI pool data" from bios, no reaction to F8
[04:11] <nc__> shang bu qi a...
[04:11] <thunsucker> TFGBD: google?
[04:11] <nc__> -,-!
[04:11] <lion42> Why google when you can have people on IRC google for you.
[04:12] <TFGBD> Eh, I can't say I found much.
[04:12] <TFGBD> Plus, it's always fun to hear comments and experiences in realtime.
[04:12] <thunsucker> TFGBD: i found the answer in less than 10 seconds, try harder
[04:12] <thunsucker> TFGBD: google: xbox 360+ubuntu
[04:12] <bazhang> TFGBD, this is not the channel for that
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> TFGBD: there used to be xboxlinux but I think it's dead
[04:12] <TFGBD> Oh, I found some. But it's mostly for older versions.
[04:12] <urlin2u> tabakhase, you have a MS disc put the MS bootloader in the mbr and see if it boots   terminal in the repair   bootrec.exe /fixmbr
[04:12] <TFGBD> Yeah, I've noticed.
[04:12] <luigi> tabakhase: This might be a stretch, but are you sure you didn't unmount the windows drive forcefully?
[04:13] <TFGBD> I get the impression most people don't care too much about linux on it.
[04:13] <needhelp1> evening
[04:13] <centr0> ive just changed my /etc/network/interfaces  how do i reload the network?
[04:13] <tabakhase> luigi for sure im not sure...
[04:13] <luigi> tabakhase: In addition to what urlin2u said, I would also run a chkdisk on your windows partitions.
[04:13] <luigi> Just in case.
[04:13] <Jokn> centr0: /etc/init.d/networking restart
[04:13] <theadmin> centr0: sudo service network restart
[04:13] <theadmin> Oh, networking
[04:14] <centr0> thanks.
[04:14] <tabakhase> chkdsk was done before "this" reboot, ill try mbr from restore now...
[04:14] <thunsucker> TFGBD: the guides for install 9.04 and 9.10 will probably still work, the process has probably not changed
[04:14] <hack27> like to do some movie trailers any program
[04:14] <hack27> ?
[04:15] <hack27> or there isn;t any
[04:15] <Costanza> when i opned a sector viewer i saw MBR on sector 0 and PBR on 63.. how would i actually backup both into 1.img file using dd :<
[04:15] <ohzie> ActionParsnip: Hey I uninstalled and recompiled 1.0.23 and alsa works great now
[04:15] <ohzie> Thanks!
[04:16] <bazhang> hack27, apple movie trailers?
[04:16] <hack27> but for linux
[04:16] <hack27> aint that for apple computers
[04:17] <bazhang> hack27, wget them. apple blocks linux
[04:17] <TYDIRocks> Does it matter if I put Ubuntu on a CD or DVD?
[04:17] <usermanager> is it possible to install 11.04 over 8.04
[04:17] <bazhang> TYDIRocks, no
[04:17] <bazhang> usermanager, of course
[04:17] <urlin2u> tabakhase, here are 4 commands commonly used to fix the boot and rebuild the bcd as well. http://paste.ubuntu.com/665449/
[04:17] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: no, just depends on if the iso is too large to fit on a cd
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> ohzie: sweet :)
[04:17] <usermanager> bazhang will all setting and data be ok ?
[04:17] <hack27> so i could imovie program
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: burn the CD ISO to a CD, burn the DVD ISO to a DVD
[04:17] <hack27> get*
[04:18] <bazhang> usermanager, you have a separate home partition?
[04:18] <TYDIRocks> AactionParsnip, How can I tell which I downloaded
[04:18] <thunsucker> hack27: imovie is for macs only
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: remember to MD5 test the ISO before you burn it so you know it's complete and consistent
[04:18] <bazhang> hack27, imovie on linux? no
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: size is a dead giveaway
[04:18] <usermanager> no
[04:18] <thunsucker> hack27: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OSXApplicationsEquivalents
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: use tab to complete nicks ;)
[04:19] <bazhang> usermanager, tell the installer to keep home then, also always have backups
[04:19] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip, I already have tested the md5. For some reason Ubuntu isn't installing. Fedora would boot up find, but all I get with Ubuntu is "Operating System not found
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: did you make the CD test itself for defects?
[04:20] <usermanager> how to check whether i got home partiton ? i forgot i install it in a single partion or 2 partion
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: did you burn the CD slowly?
[04:20] <luigi> usermanager: sudo fdisk -l
[04:20] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip, when burning in windows 7 I checked Verify disc
[04:20] <theadmin> usermanager: See the output of "mount"
[04:20] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: what version? I always use a usb stick to install, created with unetbootin
[04:20] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip, and I've tried 2 different DVDs.
[04:20] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, I'm doing 11.04. And the USB version won't let me install to the harddrive, will it?
[04:21] <tabakhase> urlin2u luigi BootRec.exe /ScanOs returned "total identified windows installations: 0" but the grafical repair finds my windows btw...
[04:21] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: if you want it to install every single time, and not have to worry about bad cd's/dvd's and etc and burn speeds, use usb
[04:21] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: yes sir it will, works just like the cd, you will notice no differences
[04:21] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: except you won't heard the loud buzz of the cd lol
[04:21] <usermanager> i got 2 i guess one is for swap
[04:21] <luigi> tabakhase: You didn't destroy your windows system partition, did you?
[04:21] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, I tried earlier today with a usb and it was wanting to install it on the usb itself it seemed
[04:22] <urlin2u> tabakhase, rum all 4 in the order there are in and hope. ;)
[04:22] <urlin2u> run
[04:22] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: how did you create the usb stick?
[04:22] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, then again. I put in a new harddrive because that one may of been mountfunctioning
[04:22] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, with unetbootin
[04:22] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: the disk has a self test when it first starts to load
[04:22] <usermanager> i want to install 11.04 over 8.04 and want to keep my data and firefox setting and all password ..... how to do it
[04:22] <tabakhase> luigi if that happend it wasnt me, i just booted and as u see my fstab is clear
[04:22] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: go back and try unetbootin, it shouldn't even prompt you to install on the usb stick
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> usermanager: install Natty then restore your data from bacups
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> *backups
[04:23] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip, the disk seems to work find on windows. The wubi thing comes up find
[04:23] <Anom01y> !ssl
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: doesn't mean its ok, get it tested
[04:23] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, well for the over 4.4 gigabytes, it was X'd out. Was that possibly because of a hard drive error?
[04:23] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: if you want to make sure, your normal hard drives will be similiar to /dev/sda1 and usb will be something different
[04:23] <tabakhase> urlin2u luigi the restored windows (from repair using all commands) works!!
[04:23] <usermanager> actionparsnip , which folder or data should i backup ?
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> thunsucker: also test ram using the liveCD
[04:23] <Dulak> hack27: you can get apple trailers working with the gecko-mediaplayer package, it works for me in firefox
[04:24] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip, how?
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> usermanager: ~/.mozilla     why do you not already have it backed up????
[04:24] <luigi> tabakhase: Congrats. Looks like the problem was with grub.
[04:24] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: memtest on bootup
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> usermanager: I suggest you clear cache to save backing up temp internet files
[04:24] <urlin2u> tabakhase, cool so just reload grub to the mbr or use easybcd your choice.
[04:24] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: don't over think it, just use unetbootin and see what happens
[04:24] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, memtest of what?
[04:24] <urlin2u> I use grub myself tabakhase
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: when the CD starts to boot, press SPACE and you should see the menu to test RAM and the disk
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> usermanager: again, why is the data not already backed up??
[04:25] <TYDIRocks> ActionPasnip, how can I tell when it starts to boot?
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: the usual bios screen will go and you'll see a blank screen or a boot splash
[04:25] <usermanager> i never did any backup for my ubuntu from the frist day i installed :)
[04:25] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip, so when it is at the black screen press space?
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: I just hammer space when it starts to load. I also suggest you try the minimal ISO and use a wired connection. You can install straight from the repos rather than a CD
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: yes
[04:26] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: skip the tests, since you said you had a bad hard drive that you already replaced, just install and it will probably be fine, if not, then do the tests
[04:27] <TYDIRocks> Alright, I'll try the usb first. Also action, it checks the dvd itself right?
[04:27] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: there is an option to test boot media
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: USB has no moving parts so checking stuff isnt necessary
[04:28] <thunsucker> ^^
[04:28] <usermanager> are files saved on ubuntu  on home directory only ? or there's somewhere else i should check ?
[04:28] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip, I meant when using the dvd
[04:28] <tabakhase> urlin2u so plan now: boot livecd, shotdown, check windows still working, shutdown, grub from livecd, interupt, goto command, "retype" normal ubuntu from nopaste, boot harddisk ubuntu, update&install grub, see if windows works. (when still not repair again try bootmanaging from windows side (easybcd e.g.))?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> usermanager: settings for each users apps are stored in $HOME
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> TYDIRocks: then you should run the disk check. USB install will be faster and is more reliable
[04:29] <TYDIRocks> ActionParsnip, alright I'll try the USB first
[04:29] <zenergi> is it normal to only get 7.2 of 8TB on a freshly formatted drive?  I set the reserve space to 0 too.  Anything else I can do to get some of theother 10%?
[04:29] <urlin2u> tabakhase, I can't quite follow that, but I think the W7 bootfiles got corrupted or wiped some how.
[04:29] <urlin2u> tabakhase, originally
[04:29] <thunsucker> zenergi: thats just the way it is
[04:29] <ActionParsnip> zenergi: if you used a journalling filesystem, you will be using some space to hold the journal
[04:30] <luigi> zenergi: It's absolutely normal. There's a difference between MiB and MB
[04:30] <urlin2u> tabakhase, eaybcd works with the MS boot in the mbr, not grub.
[04:31] <usermanager> so is it possible to just copy the whole folder of home to a cd ? after a fresh installation of 11.04 then overwrite the entire home folder ?
[04:31] <thunsucker> usermanager: I wouldn't overwrite it, but you could copy the files inside your home folder back to your home folder
[04:31] <thunsucker> usermanager: something like /media/cd1/home/john/* /home/john/
[04:32] <Lasers> usermanager: Sure. Best to do it when *xdm isn't running. Make sure the permissions is correct too (to your name).
[04:32] <ralarX> hey, I have an athlon xp 1800 from 2003, which ubuntu version would fit me?
[04:32] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, how can I make sure it's trying to install to the HD again?
[04:32] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: lol it will automatically do that for you, if you must verify, it will label the hard drive probably /dev/sda1
[04:32] <Lasers> ralarX: Err. Your choice. Latest Ubuntu or Stable Ubuntu.
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> usermanager: yes, when you install, just restore the folder and you are ready to rock :)
[04:33] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: but the size will an obvious give away
[04:33] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: how big is the hard drive you have in there now?
[04:33] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, yeah it showed over 4.4 gb
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> ralarX: any will be fine
[04:33] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, 80 gb
[04:33] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: did it show about 77 or 78ish?
[04:33] <lololol> yo, if you guys want a good target, richard clarke recently came out saying there is a huge 911 cover up when he was in office.
[04:33] <lololol> george tennet responded http://georgejtenet.com/ClarkeStatement.html
[04:33] <lololol> edit that shit so it says they caused 911 lol
[04:33] <thunsucker> !spam | lololol
[04:34] <ralarX> Lasers: site recommends 64bit, does my hardware fit that or is this unrelated?
[04:34] <thunsucker> !flood | lololol
[04:34] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, it didn't show the size. It showed the thing that it had over 4.4 gb.
[04:34] <quiescens> its more off topic tan flooding really
[04:34] <quiescens> than*
[04:34] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: well if your usb stick is 4g, and it showed more than that, you're good
[04:35] <thunsucker> quiescens: i agree but I don't know the command for that
[04:35] <Lasers> ralarX: I have no idea how to check for 32/64bit capability on Windows.
[04:35] <thunsucker> !offtopic | lololol
[04:35] <quiescens> lol
[04:35] <thunsucker> there we go
[04:35] <thunsucker> lol
[04:35] <ralarX> I run windows 98 now :>
[04:35] <Lasers> ralarX: You want to find out if your machine can run 64bit. If it can, go with it. Otherwise, go with 32. You can take full advantage of your hardware that way.
[04:35] <thunsucker> ralarX: then you're running 32-bit LOL
[04:36] <thunsucker> ralarX: how much memory do you have?
[04:36] <thunsucker> 128mb?
[04:36] <ralarX> 512 M
[04:36] <thunsucker> ralarX: if you go with ubuntu, use 10.04
[04:36] <centHOGG> lts
[04:36] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, yeah it shows 80 gb
[04:36] <ralarX> 10.04, any specific reason for that?
[04:36] <TYDIRocks> showed*
[04:36] <luigi> Don't use x86_64 on anything under 1 GB of ram.
[04:36] <thunsucker> ralarX: it's LTS and the new interfaces say of 11.04 will eat your machine for a snack
[04:37] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: see you're good then :P
[04:37] <needhelp1> you can use grep to search a txt file for a specific word, right?
[04:38] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker: How come when I'm creating the name, it says that the name is already taken on the network when it isn't?
[04:38] <thunsucker> needhelp1: grep cat *
[04:38] <nronksr> I'd try bodhilinux on a system like that.  w/ 512 mb ram (ubuntu 10.04 w/ enlightenment) will run just fine, and very quick.
[04:38] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: are you at home or at a school?
[04:38] <Lasers> ralarX: Stability. What else? Also, 11.04 is on this new /possibly-broken/ thing called Unity.
[04:38] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker: home
[04:38] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: what are you trying to name it?
[04:38] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker: anonymous
[04:38] <needhelp1> thunsucker, so if im searching file.txt for all words of "test" i would do ..
[04:39] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: lol pick something else
[04:39] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker: I also tried tyler-ubuntu but that didn't work either
[04:39] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker: whenever I change a character it still says the same
[04:39] <zenergi> ActionParsnip: thigns, i didn't think the journal would take 10% of the disk space
[04:39] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: i've have bad luck using special characters in names, make it simple, tyler
[04:39] <needhelp1> grep --text 'test' /file.txt cat  ? thunsucker
[04:39] <zenergi> ActionParsnip: sorry, thigns = thanks :)
[04:39] <TYDIRocks> thunksocker: Turns out after I entered my password it was fine
[04:40] <thunsucker> needhelp1: no
[04:40] <nronksr> grep -i test file.txt
[04:40] <thunsucker> needhelp1: cd into the directory of the files you want to search, type: sudo grep cat *
[04:40] <TYDIRocks> just realized i spelt your name thunksocker lol
[04:40] <thunsucker> needhelp1: that will search all files in that directory to see if they have the word cat in them
[04:41] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: lol type thu and then press tab, types it for you :)
[04:41] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: a suggestions, quit over thinking things, just go with the flow
[04:41] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, oh, that's cool
[04:41] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: lol
[04:41] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, hah
[04:41] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: it's similiar to the way things work in linux, you can tab a lot of filenames and paths to make it easier
[04:42] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, coolio
[04:42] <thunsucker> zenergi: it's always been that way, a smaller example is my hard drive. it's a 160g drive but i only get 153g
[04:43] <overclucker> stupid hd manufacturers and thier decimal numbering
[04:44] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, also, I take it there is a tool in Ubuntu to partition a drive?
[04:44] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, after installing
[04:44] <tabakhase> upon the livecd im right now able to mount /dev/sda3... urlin2u
[04:44] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: why would you want to partition the drive after the install?
[04:45] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, incase I want to use another distro of linux
[04:45] <urlin2u> tabakhase, unmount before installing grub, and boot to Ubuntu first after grub install and run the sudo update-grub before trying to boot windows.
[04:45] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: if you want to eventually dual boot, you can use a program called gparted that will resize partitions to give you room to install the other distro
[04:45] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: but the cool thing is that most distro's installs will do that for you automatically
[04:46] <tabakhase> ill do..
[04:46] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, oh cool. I was just thinking of maybe hopping backtrack on here. Although I now remember it was made for just running it off a cd
[04:46] <thunsucker> TYDIRocks: i've been thinking about trying 11.10 with a dual boot, just to get a taste of what it'sa bout
[04:47] <TYDIRocks> thunsucker, nice :)
[04:47] <urlin2u> tabakhase, cool I think your set I suspect the original not booting to Ubuntu after installing grub started a process, along with missing boot files in widows was the problem, hard to say just a theory. ;)
[04:48] <urlin2u> tabakhase, you chrooted originally i use a different method I have never had to chroot to install grub, so I may be wrong on that.
[04:49] <tabakhase> is there anything more that "could do smth" to my windows then fstab? no hm?
[04:50] <urlin2u> tabakhase, hard to say a correct fstab I would think would not be a problem, personally I like my W7 only opened when I want and closeable.
[04:51] <urlin2u> no w7 in my fstab
[04:52] <usermanager> will my dsl dialer setting still there afeter i do a frsh install of 11.04 and then restore back the home folder ?
[04:55] <wildbat> usermanager: should be if you use nm .
[04:56] <usermanager> ok thaks bye
[04:57] <inashdeen> .
[05:00] <tabakhase> urlin2u http://nopaste.php-quake.net/55051 "bootinfo in chrooted from livecd after upadte-grub but before grub-install - and after grub-install http://nopaste.php-quake.net/55052
[05:00] <tabakhase> no error on the bootsector thing of win7 for now...
[05:00] <tabakhase> now booting linux from disk
[05:00] <urlin2u> tabakhase, so you can boot to windows?
[05:02] <lotrpy> hello, after sudo add-apt-repository ppa:..., how to remove or delete the ppa? ubuntu 10.04 without GUI.
[05:04] <farsight> /var/cache/apt/archives/???
[05:04] <urlin2u> tabakhase, the regular boot files for W7 not showing, but  have seen this before, and everything worked, you have some encryption so who know if it works your set.
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> LtHummus: ppa-purge
[05:05] <llutz_> lotrpy: find the sources.list file containing the ppa (grep -ri ppaname /etc/apt/*) and delete it then (sudo nano filename)
[05:05] <tabakhase> urlin2u so, grup is installed, first ubuntu then windows test?
[05:05] <lotrpy> llutz_, I find it at /etc/apt/source.list.d/, is it safe just delete it?
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> LtHummus: install ppa-purge then use the same ppa address as an arg to ppa-purge and it will remove it for you
[05:06] <llutz_> lotrpy: delete the file only, not the dir. sudo apt-get update after doing so
[05:07] <lotrpy> llutz_, yes, just delete the file, not the dir, thanks
[05:07] <lotrpy> and sudo apt-get update after delete:)
[05:08] <urlin2u> tabakhase, I always boot to ubuntu first and run update-grub just to make sure grub is and has read all the OS's with the os-prober.
[05:13] <ntiy> hey. I have bunch of files named f1 f2 f3 ... f9 f10 f11... f100. How can I list then in "numerical" order? if I gust do ls I get: f1 f10 f100 f11 f12... f19 f2 f20 f21... and so on
[05:14] <llutz_> ntiy: ls |sort -nk                just a guess
[05:14] <frankbro> Is jockey-gtk keeping proprietary video drivers updated or would installing the drivers given on manufactures site a possible update? 3d games can make my X crash and I can't even start minecraft.
[05:16] <ntiy> llutz_: sort: option requires an argument -- k
[05:17] <llutz_> ntiy: man sort (-k key to start)
[05:18] <tabakhase> urlin2u following bootinfoscript mounting windrive failed again, device or resource busy, =( | so restore windows, boot from livecd, write grub, boot disk(restore!) write grub, boot from disk(normal), boot win(when its getting so far without putting in busy)
[05:18] <tabakhase> years ago i had "hide" lines in my grub, might this help?
[05:18] <yaboo> trying to install 11.04 desktop, but the screen blanks out during installation
[05:19] <yaboo> any reasons why
[05:19] <tabakhase> yaboo at what point goes to blank?
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> yaboo: what video chip do you use?
[05:19] <urlin2u> tabakhase, so the windows is failing again?
[05:19] <yaboo> just afer the keyboard and some round symbol at the botton
[05:19] <tabakhase> urlin2u right now yes, but this might been my fault...
[05:19] <yaboo> ActionParsnip, believe a nvidia chipset
[05:20] <urlin2u> tabakhase, run the 4 commands and install easybcd that will work.
[05:20] <tabakhase> urlin2u ill do one last try with recovery grubinstall before doing easybcd...
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> yaboo: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[05:21] <yaboo> thanks ActionParsnip or its fedora for me then, if this fails
[05:23] <urlin2u> tabakhase, I have never used the recovery grub option I just use a live ubuntu cd, so not sure there theoretically supposed to work, but I like to use the terminal in this area.
[05:24] <allandee> anyone familiar with Synergy?
[05:25] <tabakhase> allandee quite
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> yaboo: it'll work ;)
[05:25] <dd_> would anyone be willing to help me figure out how to get my line printer working with lucid server?
[05:25] <yaboo> one hopes it will
[05:25] <dd_> i can't think of anything else
[05:26] <allandee> tabakhase; I chose left- shift-ctrl-alt-left to switch to the machine to the left of the center screen, and it seems right alt-gr sticks when I use the mentioned hotkey to switch to it
[05:26] <dd_> my usb > parallel adapter shows up in lsusb
[05:26] <allandee> even if I didn'
[05:27] <allandee> didn't use that as part of the hotkey-sequence to switch to it
[05:27] <dd_> lsmod shows everything i think should have loaded
[05:27] <dd_> yet there's no device
[05:28] <allandee> for the "client" machine, the left/"client" machine being an ubuntu 11.04 box, using quicksynergy
[05:28] <tabakhase> allandee why is a "veryfi" button neccessarry? im happy with the 250ms delay and scroll button to "lock" the mouse to a screen
[05:28] <bindi_> Using TightVNC server + viewer, how can I view the primary X session? Instead of a new one
[05:29] <allandee> tabakhase: I'm not aware of a verify-button in my mentioned setup?
[05:29] <dd_> nobody likes line printers? :(
[05:30] <allandee> dd_: I love line printers
[05:30] <dd_> would you be able to help me? i can't figure out why my oki microline 320 isn't orking for the life of me
[05:30] <dd_> i mean, the printer works
[05:31] <dd_> just not with lucid server :(
[05:31] <JohnnyL> Is it possible to make a call to get a snapshot of an app screen under X?
[05:31] <allandee> dd_ what is the lucid server, how does it not work, and what are you trying to do that provokes the failure?
[05:32] <dd_> 10.04 server
[05:32] <dd_> the device doesn't show up in /dev
[05:32] <dd_> lp or parport
[05:32] <dd_> they show up in lsmod
[05:33] <dd_> my usb > parallel shows up in lsusb
[05:33] <dd_> but there's no device :(
[05:33] <dd_> i just want my sweet sweet paper logs
[05:34] <allandee> dd_: we're talking about the dinosour type oki 380 that takes  paper with holes on both sides of fed paper here?
[05:34] <dd_> i was reading http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=894223 and couldn't find anything
[05:34] <dd_> yup
[05:34] <dd_> oki 320 turbo
[05:34] <allandee> what are you trying to print to it?
[05:36] <allandee> or; if you're trying to print a plain text file, "lpr myfile.txt" should do -- or even "cat myfile.txt > /dev/lp<thedeviceit'sbeenassigned>"
[05:36] <dd_> i had a program i wrote for windows that printed out log lines for another program, i'm just trying to make one for ubuntu
[05:37] <dd_> i have a strange setup that runs a vpn and bgp with some odd services
[05:37] <allandee> it should be as easy as directing standard output into standard input the device that has been set up for your printer
[05:38] <dd_> should be :(
[05:38] <allandee> is the printer attached to the computer that is ultimately receiving your print job?
[05:38] <dd_> yeah
[05:39] <allandee> if you issue "lpr" on that box, what does it say?
[05:39] <bindi_> Using TightVNC server + viewer, how can I view the primary X session? Instead of a new one
[05:40] <dd_> lpr just seems to hang, lp says Error: no default destination available
[05:41] <dd_> i should have a /dev/lp* or /dev/parport* though shouldn't i?
[05:41] <allandee> lpr hangs - have you done anything to set up the basic printing facilities?  (does lpq also hang?)
[05:42] <allandee> dd_: you should, and in which case, you should be able to do    echo "lol" > /dev/lp0
[05:42] <tabakhase> urlin2u look there, on windows!!! this is "from crooted live cd" http://nopaste.php-quake.net/55069
[05:42] <dd_> installed cups and the lp programs, that's all. I've never had to install a printer in linux so most of this printer stuff is new to me
[05:42] <JohnnyL> linux sucks
[05:42] <allandee> and your printer would do the obvious thing
[05:42] <dd_> yeah that was my plan
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyL: don't use it then
[05:42] <JohnnyL> ActionParsnip: ok
[05:42] <allandee> dd_: cups will ruin your life in this case.
[05:42] <tabakhase> urlin2u wonder if that stays when rebooting from disk...
[05:43] <dd_> i'm afraid of cups from the time i used it 5 years ago
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyL: plenty of alternative OSes to choose from :)
[05:43] <luigi> JohnnyL: Use Haiku then.
[05:43] <urlin2u> tabakhase, hopefully, boot straight to the ubuntu desktop no recovery and run in the terminal sudo update-grub, and it should be fixed, the W7 files are showing.
[05:43] <llutz_> just ignore the troll
[05:44] <urlin2u> tabakhase, as fra as chrooting you g=have to close it correctly  believe as wel.
[05:44] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: lo
[05:44] <urlin2u> I
[05:44] <randomusr> Do I need to uninstall and re-install my video drivers each time i  update my kernel? Or can I simply install the drivers while booted to the new kernel?
[05:45] <allandee> dd_:  be afraid.  however;  if your BIOS is standard-y, the /dev/lp* should have have an entry that gives you direct access to it
[05:45] <allandee> dd_: what does ls /dev/lp* say?
[05:46] <dd_> no such file :(
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> randomusr: what drivers do you use and how did you install them?
[05:47] <_newbie_> ciao a tutti
[05:47] <_newbie_> !list
[05:47] <urlin2u> tabakhase, are following the 11th and 12th instructions here. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[05:47] <theadmin> !it _newbie_
[05:47] <theadmin> !it | _newbie_
[05:48] <allandee> dd_: that is unfortunate.  there is not even an entry, with an unresolved link, to /dev/lp0?
[05:48] <urlin2u> tabakhase, 11 through 16 minus the 13th https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot
[05:48] <dd_> nope :/
[05:48] <ohzie> Hey guys, another question. All the laptops I've had for a while have had scrollbars on the right side of them, this one doesn't. Is there anything I can do to emulate a scrollbar?
[05:49] <randomusr> actionparsnip: used the nvidia drivers from nvidia using the install process from their website
[05:49] <mygfiscontradict> i'm ssh into my server and trying to download via wget but it just says connecting.
[05:49] <mygfiscontradict> i've checked internet connect and its working
[05:50] <ldr> ohzie they are two x options called emulatewheel and emulate wheel button which let you scroll by "moving" the mouse when you press a certain button
[05:50] <dd_> allandee, i have a usb to parallel converter for it, so i was thinking that it was causeing the problem
[05:50] <mygfiscontradict> first present to help me gets a thank you!
[05:50] <allandee> dd_: I don't think Ubuntu is the distribution you would like to choose as your starting point then. I imagine any/all other distros heed that ancient protocol.
[05:51] <crus> Hi guys. im running Ubuntu 11.04 on a white macbook 13", it seems it has crashed trying to run tuxracer.. I can't alt+tab.. or alt+ctrl+del, is there any other way to recover from this kind of crash without pulling the battery?
[05:51] <dd_> ah, i may have to give it it's own little windows server then :/
[05:51] <allandee> dd_: oh, certainly, that changes things :p
[05:51] <allandee> lp* is for the physical devices
[05:52] <ldr> crus you can install openssh-server and connect from another machine for example
[05:52] <JohnnyL> llutz: easy to stoop so low as to call a person a troll.
[05:52] <dd_> yeah i don't wanna do it either
[05:52] <jrib> crus: can you hit ctrl-alt-f1 and get to a tty?
[05:52] <crus> ldr: its in the crashed state, how am i going to install anything?
[05:52] <ldr> crus sorry thought it was more of a general question
[05:52] <crus> jrib: no response.. the machine is responding to pigs however
[05:52] <crus> pings even
[05:52] <JohnnyL> you know lutz stands for 'Famous Fighter'.
[05:52] <jrib> crus: pigs?
[05:52] <JohnnyL> It's short for Ludwig.
[05:53] <jrib> !sysrq | crus
[05:53] <dd_> it shows up in lsmod so i'm really confused as to why the device isn't there
[05:53] <allandee> JohnnyL; really?
[05:53] <JohnnyL> allandee: yes
[05:53] <robin0800> crus, tap power button this time and next time enable ctl+ alt=backspace to kill the x server
[05:53] <allandee> JohnnyL: I didn't know this, fascinating
[05:53] <JohnnyL> allandee: it's my last name, i should know. :)
[05:54] <crus> robin0800: seems like the only workable solution
[05:54] <crus> jrib: macbook doesn't have a print screen button
[05:54] <allandee> dd_: which is the pertinent line from lsmod?
[05:55] <dd_> allandee, if i lsmod | grep ls i get . . .
[05:55] <dd_> lp 9336 0
[05:55] <jrib> crus: you probably need to just hold the power button for about 10 seconds then
[05:55] <dd_> parport 37160 2 ppdev,lp
[05:55] <dd_> ...
[05:56] <crus> jrib: indeed.
[05:56] <bindi_> I set up remote desktop from the menu, tried connecting with tightvnc.. it hangs on "status: protocol version negotiated"
[05:56] <allandee> whole lot of sense that made.  and still, no globs on /dev/lp* ?
[05:56] <RKyle> I tried upgrading Maverick to Natty and while I was letting it download (because my internet is very slow so it was unattended) and my laptop got unplugged and now my install is broken. Is there a way I can fix it offline?
[05:57] <dd_> nope :(
[05:57] <ldr> crus but you should make preparations so you can avoid doing this again this method of shutting down can do damage to your file systems
[05:57] <jrib> RKyle: start with « sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[05:58] <crus> ldr: yep, which is why i was looking for a clean method.. I'm going to enable the dont zap.. although im hoping the key combination can be changed... there is no backspace key on this thing, only a delete key
[05:58] <RKyle> jrib, I tried and I got an error however I forgot what that error was.
[05:58] <jrib> crus: delete key acts as backspace though
[05:58] <jrib> crus: at least mine does
[05:58] <crus> sweet
[05:59] <jrib> RKyle: not sure how you expect me to respond :D
[05:59] <allandee> ddi_: I'd like you to do this: open a terminal window, switch to a root context, tail -f /var/log/messages
[05:59] <ldr> crus i would still recommend installing the openssh i can come handy in a lot of cases
[05:59] <allandee> then unplugg and replug your mouse
[05:59] <allandee> observe the messages
[05:59] <tabakhase> urlin2u even when after installing grub from livecd i boot directly to recovery sda3 gets stuck and is busy again
[05:59] <allandee> then unplug and replug your printer, and do the same
[06:00] <urlin2u> tabakhase, did you see my post about unmounting the chroot enviroment?
[06:00] <allandee> and see if you get any clues as to why your printer isn't being routed through an lp* device
[06:00] <robin0800> jrib, Are you sure as backspace back deletes rather than delete which forward deletes
[06:00] <RKyle> jrib, I'll try again though, I may be back soon but I'll write a file with the error and transfer it to my Windows partition if it happens again.
[06:00] <tabakhase> urlin2u jeps, im doing it already exacly like that
[06:00] <jrib> robin0800: it does on my macbook.  It's probably a setting
[06:01] <allandee> tail -f /var/log/syslog actually, on ubuntu
[06:01] <marezz> Hi everyone, I got a problem with watching videos, screen is black but I can hear the audio, I can only see parts of the video when I open dropdown menu in the player, when I open new window over the player I can see the video like on this screen shot http://imagebin.org/167757 This happens with every player, anyone knows how to fix this?
[06:01] <crus> robin0800: the delete key on a macbook does seem to have the same behaviour as the backspace key on a PC.. no idea how you would infact do a delete :D?
[06:01] <dd_> allandee, nothing unusual
[06:01] <jrib> robin0800, crus: in any case, fn+delete seems to act as delete so if your delete button on your macbook acts as delete, fn+delete is probably backspace
[06:02] <crus> jrib: ;) just tried it as you said it
[06:02] <allandee> dd_: what's the usual, in the context of unplugging and replugging your printer?
[06:02] <allandee> the line where it assigns a device to your printer
[06:02] <bindi_> I set up remote desktop from the menu, tried connecting with tightvnc.. it hangs on "status: protocol version negotiated"
[06:03] <makara> i'm having trouble with usb network devices on natty 32bit. i've tried all the obvious fixes, I need someone who understands log files to take a look please
[06:03] <jrib> crus: yes the other useful one is fn+enter = insert so shift+fn+enter lets you paste what you last selected (like middle click)
[06:03] <marezz> Hi everyone, I got a problem with watching videos, screen is black but I can hear the audio, I can only see parts of the video when I open dropdown menu in the player, when I open new window over the player I can see the video like on this screen shot http://imagebin.org/167757 This happens with every player, anyone knows how to fix this?
[06:03] <dd_> usb 4-2: ... new usb device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[06:03] <crus> jrib: nice! thanks for the heads up :)
[06:03] <dd_> usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[06:04] <urlin2u> tabakhase, so when your doing these things, I notice that although maybe safe, extra things are done, like opening W7 on the live cd, and running the bootscript from the chroot,  not sure about this extra stuff. Personally I have never had a fail in these areas loading the mbr and such including the 4 commands for rebuilding the bcd. So I'm wondering if doing these extras is causing some sort of errors, user or system.
[06:05] <__Cache> hi
[06:05] <dd_> lsusb says Bus 004 Device 004 : ID ... MosChip Semiconductor Printer cable
[06:06] <allandee> well, you could try sending output to there, but also:
[06:06] <marezz> Hi everyone, I got a problem with watching videos, screen is black but I can hear the audio, I can only see parts of the video when I open dropdown menu in the player, when I open new window over the player I can see the video like on this screen shot http://imagebin.org/167757 This happens with every player, anyone knows how to fix this?
[06:06] <ldr> marezz could be realted to some compositing stuff of your window manager, which one are you using unity?
[06:06] <allandee> why aren't you connecting directly through the printer port?
[06:06] <dd_> ah i forgot the command that tells you what it is
[06:06] <ldr> mare
[06:06] <marezz> ldr, I use ubuntu classic
[06:06] <marezz> ldr, without effects
[06:06] <urlin2u> tabakhase, you might just reload the mbr with the MS boot and install easybcd, could be any number of things happening, it would be a option to see if it works.
[06:06] <__Cache> hi
[06:07] <crus> jrib: hmm, shift fn enter doesn't let me paste :O well not in the terminal anyway
[06:07] <dd_> compusa didn't sell one with a parallel to parallel
[06:07] <Fudge> is lts 2 or 3 years
[06:07] <tabakhase> urlin2u im kind of 5 minutes infront of format all, install windows and install ubuntu afterwards... problem in this is that my notebook already has my "full configured" ubuntu and when im getting the same problem there i dislike tuncating it...
[06:07] <dd_> lol
[06:07] <Fudge> trying to figure out when next lts is
[06:07] <ldr> marezz hmm maybe try diffrent outputs with mplayers -vo option to see if its happens with everyone
[06:07] <dd_> nr do they ser db9 null modem cables
[06:07] <dd_> . . .
[06:07] <jrib> crus: you highlighted something with your mouse first?
[06:07] <robin0800> marezz, try metacity --replace
[06:08] <__Cache> hmm
[06:08] <crus> jrib: iv got something on my clipboard, cause i can paste it manually
[06:08] <allandee> dd_: huh.  is this a laptop?
[06:08] <thirteenth> Hello all, has anyone had success routing a PC's internet to a Dreamcast using a modem on each end..with Ubuntu?
[06:08] <urlin2u> tabakhase, your choice it would be frustrating to me I would have wiped it long agao and reinstalled rather then fuss with it, but I backup everything.
[06:08] <dd_> allandee, nope, i moved and lost the old cable
[06:09] <jrib> crus: there are two clipboards in linux.  One is the one your probably used to (ctrl-c to copy, ctrl-v to paste) and the other is the 100 times easier to use one (just highlight what you want to copy, and middle click to paste (or shift-insert))
[06:09] <dd_> they only sold the usb to crazy printer connector
[06:09] <marezz> robin0800, Im using ubuntu classic without effects but I did use metacity --replace as you said, no luck :/
[06:09] <crus> jrib: yep, trying that in the terminal, doesn't work for me
[06:10] <dd_> it's worked before with one so idk
[06:10] <thirteenth> oops, my question's not entirely relevant here. sorry.
[06:10] <ldr> marezz i would still recommend trying diffrent video outputs maybe you find one which works
[06:10] <marezz> ldr, Which one should I try?
[06:11] <robin0800> marezz, can you use classic? then you can use either compiz or metacity
[06:11] <marezz> robin0800, What do you mean? I told you im using classic :)
[06:11] <ldr> marezz xvidix,xv,opengl,sdl to start with all of the x ones if you have no luck
[06:11] <allandee> :)  well, I'm thinking, if it's treated through a generic host controller device, I don't see how a lot of the old Centronics status line statuses could have carried over
[06:12] <ASKidwai> how do i make /usr writable by a server?
[06:12] <jrib> ASKidwai: why?
[06:12] <allandee> and so it makes sense that it couldn't be treated as an lp device
[06:12] <llutz_> ASKidwai: bad idea
[06:12] <jrib> crus: I don't know; if you are in X, it should work
[06:12] <crus> jrib: all good, seems i can emulate a middle click on the trackpad by doing a 3 finger tap
[06:12] <ASKidwai> jrib for uploading stuff
[06:12] <robin0800> marezz, you said no effects try the plain classic instead
[06:12] <jrib> ASKidwai: be more specific
[06:12] <dd_> ah i guess that would make sence
[06:13] <ASKidwai> jrib I write for a site and it invovles uploading files as well. Whenever I try to upload anything it asks me if /usr/local/www/vhosts/psp-hacks/2011/08 is writable by server
[06:13] <jrib> !permissions | ASKidwai
[06:14] <jrib> ASKidwai: give www-data write permissions on that directory
[06:14] <allandee> dd_:  depending on your time/money schedule, maybe you want to look into a motherboard that has a centronics style parallel port output.  they're starting at around 15 dollars.
[06:14] <dd_> yeah i have one
[06:14] <dd_> just no cable
[06:14] <dd_> guess i'll have to search for one tomorrow :/
[06:14] <ASKidwai> jrib is it safe? one time I chmod-ed 664 and the computer wouldn't boot
[06:15] <jrib> ASKidwai: what did you "chmod 664"?
[06:15] <Xenophon> x?
[06:15] <allandee> "db 25 cable"
[06:15] <allandee> maleeeeeeeeeee male
[06:15] <allandee> male male
[06:15] <dd_> hah yeah i've made that mistake before
[06:15] <yaboo> might install 10.10 and not 11.04, one hopes this does not give me the blank screen during startup issue
[06:15] <ASKidwai> jrib /usr
[06:15] <amero> any way to install local .deb while resolving all its dependencies?
[06:16] <__Cache> hi
[06:16] <robin0800> yaboo, what startup issue?
[06:16] <dd_> kinda frustrating that compusa doesn't sell db25 or db9 cables and the local stores are closed on the weekends, but that'll probably be a lot easier to get working ;)
[06:16] <llutz_> ASKidwai: you don't chmod /usr, you chmod the dir you really need to write to
[06:16] <crus> jrib: another weird thing, when im in an app, say - chromium and i hold in alt.. i can see the File, Edit, View.... come up.. but i cant hold in alt and press F to bring the file menu up?
[06:16] <marezz> ldr, Still not working
[06:16] <jrib> ASKidwai: don't do that.  Modify only the directory you need the server to write to.  Additionally, you likely want to give www-data read, executable, and write permissions; not *just* write permissions (or as in 664: you do not want to omit executable permissions from directories usually)
[06:17] <ldr> ASKidwai maybe you should have a look in the file permission link above and read what happens when you remove the execution bit form a directory then it you will understand why your computer didnt boot after that
[06:17] <llutz_> ASKidwai: and 644 on dirs is always a bad idea
[06:17] <ldr> marezz you tried all of them?
[06:17] <raj_darkmystery> amero, use your ubuntu dvd as repository and you can resolve all the dependencies
[06:17] <jrib> crus: I don't know
[06:17] <tabakhase> urlin2u hm i found some, now ive just done _only_ a "BootRec.exe /FixBoot", windows boots, recovery mount /sda3 fails, booting windows fails EndOfStory: my ubuntu is doing "something" to sda3, but what =(=(
[06:17] <yaboo> robin0800, when I try to install 11.04 during desktop install the screen goes blank, tried the net install 11.04, and during reboot screen goes black also
[06:17] <marezz> ldr,  Yes
[06:17] <yaboo> using a p4 3ghz with agp nvidia card
[06:17] <ASKidwai> ldr, llutz_, jrib, thanks
[06:17] <tabakhase> yaboo try booting a 8.04 livecd, that worked for me
[06:17] <dd_> thanks nyways though
[06:18] <marezz> ldr, Note that I watched videos earlier today, not sure whats wrong...
[06:18] <ASKidwai> so I should just cd /usr/local/
[06:18] <ASKidwai> and chmod www?
[06:18] <ldr> marezz which player did you use? mplayer? maybe mplayers console output can give you some hint
[06:18] <marezz> ldr, smplayer
[06:18] <jrib> ASKidwai: no, what directory did you tell us www-data needed to write to?
[06:18] <yaboo> tabakhase, but when I dist-upgrade this will fail during reboot, so its a issue for me either way
[06:18] <tabakhase> already tryed?
[06:19] <ldr> marezz try running mplayer from the console and see what the output tells you maybe you find something useful
[06:19] <llutz_> ASKidwai: you really should read the link about permissions ubottu gave you
[06:19] <ASKidwai> this --> /usr/local/www/vhosts/psp-hacks/2011/08 is writable by server
[06:19] <robin0800> yaboo, you could try the alternate cd would give more info if things fail its also more robust than the live cd
[06:19] <ASKidwai> llutz_ I am
[06:19] <yaboo> robin0800, ok will download the alternate cd then
[06:19] <jrib> ASKidwai: so if that's what needs to be writable, that's the directory whose permissions you should modify
[06:19] <marezz> ldr,  How do I do that?
[06:20] <ASKidwai> jrib: thanks for clearing it up
[06:20] <ldr> marezz open terminal and type mplayer <videofile>
[06:20] <urlin2u> tabakhase, post the last bootscript you ran I did notice a anomaly that has some code between identical kernel sets.
[06:20] <ldr> marezz you need to replace <videofile> with the filename and location of the videpo you want to play of course
[06:21] <tabakhase> urlin2u what exacly? how to get?
[06:22] <RKyle> Okay, I tried dpkg -configure -a and it returned the error "unknown option -o" and I don't understand this and I'm sure I didn't enter -o.
[06:22] <llutz_> RKyle: --configure
[06:22] <llutz_> RKyle: 2 -
[06:22] <RKyle> I'm dumb.
[06:22] <ASKidwai> jrib: so why shouldn't I just chmod -R /usr ?
[06:22] <RKyle> Sorry.
[06:22] <makara> i'm having trouble with usb network devices on natty 32bit. i've tried all the obvious fixes, I need someone who understands log files to take a look please
[06:22] <randomusr> actionparsnip: used the nvidia drivers from nvidia using the install process from their website
[06:23] <randomusr> Do I need to uninstall and re-install my video drivers each time i  update my kernel? Or can I simply install the drivers while booted to the new kernel?
[06:23] <jrib> ASKidwai: because you don't want you web server to be able to write to anything unless it has to
[06:23] <jrib> your
[06:23] <marezz> ldr, Ok I did it
[06:23] <marezz> but it wont let me copy the terminal output
[06:23] <urlin2u> tabakhase, it may be that you need to purge grub in the chroot and reinstall it. the grub2 link tells how but it is just sudo apt-get purge grub-pc grub-common    then sudo apt-get install grub-pc grub-common   then whne asked where grub goes it will be sda use the shift to tick the sda line.
[06:24] <ldr> marezz, why not? maybe you need to close the player beforehand
[06:24] <marezz> ldr, u was right :)
[06:25] <marezz> ldr, Here it is http://pastebin.com/1DS6i51k
[06:25] <ASKidwai> jrib: ah, thank you! so I should only give read write access to the last directory, I mean in my case /08 is the last dir, so I should just chmod 644 /08 only?
[06:26] <tabakhase> urlin2u so, resotre win, boot livecd, croot, purge&install, see if windows "survives"?
[06:26] <jrib> ASKidwai: chmod is meaningless without owner and group information.  Also, you almost always want executable permissions on directories
[06:27] <ASKidwai> jrib: what else should I use?#
[06:27] <randomusr> Do I need to uninstall and re-install my video drivers each time i  update my kernel? Or can I simply install the drivers while booted to the new kernel?
[06:27] <jrib> ASKidwai: what do you mean?
[06:27] <urlin2u> tabakhase, I don't tyhink you need to restore windows qwe saw the files there when you were in the chroot and ran the bootscript.
[06:27] <urlin2u> qwe=we
[06:27] <ASKidwai> jrib, an alternate to 644 so that it is readable + writable + x
[06:28] <jrib> ASKidwai: 755
[06:28] <ASKidwai> jrib: THANKS
[06:28] <jrib> ASKidwai: 755 is 644 with executable permissions for everyone
[06:28] <tabakhase> urlin2u on restore sda3 was dead already, weve seen it from livecd-chroot
[06:28] <robin0800> randomusr, no that is done automatically now at least on newer kernals
[06:29] <ASKidwai> jrib: THANKS
[06:29] <ASKidwai> also, I have another question
[06:29] <ASKidwai> when typing in terminal, if I incorrectly cd to another dir, how can I go back to the dir where I was before?
[06:30] <randomusr> robin0800, then why does my old kernel boot without issue, but the new one boots to the shell?
[06:30] <jrib> ASKidwai: cd -
[06:30] <The_fallen_arch_> hello allyou can just type in cd root
[06:30] <The_fallen_arch_> or cd
[06:30] <randomusr> robin0800, I should point out that I've used the nvidia installer
[06:30] <ASKidwai> k
[06:31] <urlin2u> tabakhase, the script that you last ran in the chroot looked like it should be running. So since you want to keep trying it seems a purge and reinstall of grub may be the answer who knows, these things can look like they should work and just not.
[06:31] <The_fallen_arch_> randomusr you have used the nvidia installer with success?
[06:31] <ASKidwai> jrib: perhaps this example will help
[06:32] <ASKidwai> cwd = /home/stuff/c/proj
[06:32] <urlin2u> tabakhase, the ubuntu forums might help, if you have the widows boot the mod there and others that are very keen in this area might have other answers, I learned it all from them.
[06:33] <randomusr> The_fallen_arch_, yes on the original install. After updating, the driver only works with the original kernel not the update kernel
[06:33] <The_fallen_arch_> ah ok well that rules me out then i tried on my system and boy that was a mistake
[06:33] <tabakhase> urlin2u can i boot my harddiskubuntu from the livecd grub? just to validate if sda3 survives or not?
[06:34] <randomusr> The_fallen_arch_,  although i must say I haven't tried manually installing with the new kernel for fear it my break the first one
[06:35] <urlin2u> tabakhase, generally the disc is only for reloading the mbr not booting a install directly, not sure freally.
[06:35] <The_fallen_arch_> well i am using backtrack 5 which is ubuntu "lucid" with mulitple monitors when i install and configured i had double screens on all monitors
[06:35] <urlin2u> tabakhase, I use supergrub2 in that sort of attempt.
[06:36] <robin0800> randomusr, I know nvidia-current does what I said but a re instillation may be needed for the propriety driver
[06:36] <randomusr> The_fallen_arch, tha that sounds more like a config issue
[06:36] <randomusr> robin0800,  will that break either kernel?
[06:36] <The_fallen_arch_> that is what i had though but i re config everything time for about 2 days every possiable way and no luck it would wither work but be real buggy or not work at all
[06:38] <The_fallen_arch_> so i just went back to the linux default
[06:38] <randomusr> The_fallen_arch_, which kernels are you dealing with? also, do you have any system specific updates, meaning specific to your motherboard?
[06:38] <tabakhase> hm this wouldnt even make sense at all cause grub is still there and after /fixBoot the w7 from grub works just fine...
[06:38] <robin0800> randomusr, no you should see the patch being built against the new kernal and then installed
[06:38] <urlin2u> tabakhase, here is supergrub2 it is for booting systems that wont boot, only a 1.7mib download and a cd burn you might try that to see if you get in, if so we can purge from there if neded.
[06:39] <urlin2u> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/
[06:39] <randomusr> robin0800, I'm not sure I understand what you mean. please elaborate
[06:39] <tabakhase> urlin2u im getting quite sure that grub itself is not the problem.... right now im booting with installed grub into windows
[06:40] <tabakhase> booting my ubuntu "kills" sda3
[06:40] <dd_> RIP sda3
[06:40] <robin0800> randomusr, when you run the installer that's what you should see
[06:40] <wookienz> i am trying to run the kill command with sudo, but the prcoess fails to stop. WTF?
[06:40] <dd_> it was a good partition
[06:40] <dd_> a father to many files
[06:40] <randomusr> robin0800,  ah
[06:41] <dd_> a son to sda
[06:41] <randomusr> and both kernels should continue to function
[06:41] <dd_> and a friend to us all
[06:41] <Myrtti> dd_: please stay on topic
[06:41] <dd_> oh sorry i've been drinking i'll leave now
[06:42] <tabakhase> dd_ the magical part is that it goes busy, BootRec.exe /FixBoot retrives, but only until i start ubuntu again, than it falls back to "busy"
[06:42] <RKyle> Okay, so when I try sudo dpkg --configure -a it says it's read-only.
[06:42] <urlin2u> tabakhase, another bootscript from a live cd may show any anomalies. You have more patience with it then I would. ;)
[06:42] <jrib> RKyle: pastebin your command and full output
[06:42] <jrib> !pastebin | RKyle
[06:43] <urlin2u> tabakhase, you don't have to chroot to just run the script.
[06:44] <RKyle> I know about pastebin but it's on a different partition on this computer and I tried saving error messages to a text file but everything is read only when I try in recovery mode and manual recovery when I try to boot it up.
[06:44] <RKyle> Seeing as it's already in root in recovery mode I don't see how everything is read only.
[06:44] <jrib> RKyle: are you on the system now?
[06:45] <RKyle> I'm on my Windows partition.
[06:45] <jrib> RKyle: type up the output
[06:46] <RKyle> Alright, I'll right it down on a piece of paper. Be right back.
[06:46] <karan> is there any one who knows restore boot screen
[06:46] <karan> my one messed up
[06:46] <jrib> RKyle: check out the output of « mount » as well
[06:47] <RKyle> When I attempt to mount it, it returns that it is already mounted or busy.
[06:47] <jrib> RKyle: just check the output to see if anything is mounted read-only.  What are you attempting to mount?
[06:47] <urlin2u> karan, the background? can you be more specfic and give any cause why.
[06:47] <RKyle> jrib, /
[06:48] <RKyle> Just the command sudo mount / should work right? If not what is the proper command to use to mount it with write properties?
[06:48] <theadmin> RKyle: mount -o remount,rw /
[06:49] <jrib> RKyle: just look at the output and let's go from there
[06:49] <RKyle> Alright, be right back again.
[06:49] <karan> urlin2u its boot screent
[06:49] <urlin2u> karan, please do not PM me and just answer the questions.
[06:50] <karan> Okay
[06:50] <karan> i installed startup manager and my boot screen messed up
[06:50] <karan> i see black screen while start n shut down
[06:51] <urlin2u> karan, okay what do you see at the bootscreen.
[06:51] <karan> nothing
[06:51] <karan> its all black
[06:51] <urlin2u> karan, is ubuntu the only install?
[06:52] <karan> nope dual boot with ubuntu n win xp
[06:52] <cyanyde> disconnet one of the monitors to resolve black screen
[06:52] <karan> but using grub bootloder
[06:53] <ASKidwai> jrib, I want to go back to c
[06:53] <ASKidwai> how do I do it
[06:53] <ASKidwai> cwd = /home/stuff/c/proj
[06:53] <urlin2u> karan, not sure here startup manager works, but if you get a kernel update it does not adjust. Do you have the same disc you installled ubuntu with?
[06:53] <jrib> ASKidwai: cd ..   would do that in that example
[06:53] <ASKidwai> k
[06:53] <ASKidwai> I'll try
[06:54] <ASKidwai> jrib, Thanks a lot, you are a gem
[06:54] <karan> ya i have but i think i updated my kernal
[06:54] <jrib> ASKidwai: but to go to the *previous* directory (as in: where I was right before I issued my last cd command), you would use: cd -
[06:54] <ASKidwai> k
[06:55] <ASKidwai> cd-: command not found
[06:55] <melvincv> Hi everyone, I'm having trouble using Microsoft fonts from my Windows XP installation in Ubuntu. LibreOffice doesn't list the fonts...
[06:56] <mygfiscontradict> Action 'configtest' failed.
[06:56] <mygfiscontradict> The Apache error log may have more information.
[06:56] <karan> Urlin2u , are you there ?
[06:56] <mygfiscontradict> help help help help
[06:56] <mygfiscontradict> please
[06:56] <urlin2u> karan, can you boot the install disc and let me know when you do for some commands? Just boot ot and do nothing else.
[06:57] <mygfiscontradict> can someone help me?
[06:57] <urlin2u> ot=it
[06:57] <karan> okay
[06:57] <melvincv> OpenOffice used to list the fonts when I copied the ttf fonts to the /usr/share/fonts/truetype dir... what happened now?
[06:58] <urlin2u> karan, this is a natty install?, and a Natty disc just making sure we are on the same page here.
[06:58] <milamber> melvincv: what version of ubuntu? and did you remove ooo to install libreoffice?
[06:58] <karan> have to boot my pc through disc ???
[06:59] <melvincv> Natty, it came installed by default...
[06:59] <milamber> !info msttcorefonts
[07:00] <milamber> !info ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[07:00] <tabakhase> urlin2u installed easybcd now, windows boots, sitch to grub(from easybcd menu) works, booting ubuntu works, reboot, easybcd fails: A disk read error occured. press ctrl+alt+del to restart, so defently my ubuntu is doing some wired shit over there...
[07:00] <melvincv> Oh, so just copying the fonts won't do... Right, thanks :)
[07:01] <milamber> melvincv: microsoft fonts are not installed by default, you have to enable the multiverse repo and then install them
[07:01] <tabakhase> urlin2u now going to tuncate, install windows, install ubunt, i see coming that even this wont work :D
[07:01] <urlin2u> tabakhase, so you have easybcd, do you have the MS boot in the mbr?
[07:02] <tabakhase> urlin2u yes msboot in mbr, but it fails now after ive launched linux
[07:02] <urlin2u> tabakhase, bummer.
[07:03] <tabakhase> reinstall ubuntu on that machine not a problem
[07:03] <tabakhase> but if i have to do it on my notebook to?... =(
[07:03] <urlin2u> tabakhase, not sure what you mean.
[07:04] <ohzie> ldr: How do I use these options
[07:04] <ohzie> ldr: Like where can I turn them on
[07:07] <Angelus_Mortis> hello all
[07:07] <ldr> ohzie can you wait 10 minutes have to solve some other problem first
[07:07] <Angelus_Mortis> anyone here use any other version of ubuntu other than basic ubuntu?
[07:08] <staar2> Angelus_Mortis: you mena xubunut, kubuntu ?
[07:08] <ldr> ohzie the short answer is most likely /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[07:08] <Angelus_Mortis> no like backtrack
[07:08] <ohzie> ldr: Thank you, and yes I can totally wait
[07:09] <ohzie> Does anybody know why flash won't share my sound card? :[
[07:10] <ldr> ohzie what do you mean with share?
[07:12] <ldr> ohzie okay do you have a file /etx/X11/xorg.conf on your system?
[07:13] <Angelus_Mortis> anyone here use backtrack linux
[07:15] <GreenCloud> hi, does anyone know how to get the SHA256 checksum of a file at the command-line? thank you?
[07:16] <Hot2Trot> can anyone tell me how to enable vim control on the command line when I press escape?  I can't remember the command
[07:16] <wildbat> GreenCloud: sha256sum
[07:17] <raju> lost my grub now in live cd
[07:17] <ldr> ohzie are you still here?
[07:17] <urlin2u> raju, ?
[07:17] <wildbat> !grub | raju reinstall it then
[07:18] <GreenCloud> wildbat: thank you very much!
[07:19] <raju> commands , running with live cd
[07:21] <EEMPHASISS_> How do I install fonts in Lubuntu, please?  (I tried the #ubuntu channel but it's dead quiet in there...)
[07:21] <auronandace> !fonts | EEMPHASISS_
[07:22] <auronandace> !backtrack | Angelus_Mortis
[07:23] <EEMPHASISS_> auronandace: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto doesn't work in Lubuntu, pal.
[07:24] <auronandace> EEMPHASISS_: lubuntu has synaptic, install fonts from there
[07:26] <^Phantom^> Um...
[07:26] <^Phantom^> Uhhh...
[07:26] <^Phantom^> Why is Daemon drunk?
[07:26] <EEMPHASISS_> auronandace: Yes, I know I *can*.  And got ms ttf and a couple of others.  But I have local .ttf files that are NOT in the repository, that I need to have the system recognise.
[07:26] <^Phantom^> "Unable to unmount 120 GB Filesystem.  Daemon is inhibited."
[07:27] <wildbat> ^Phantom^: quit gparted yet?
[07:27] <^Phantom^> Oh
[07:27] <^Phantom^> Thankies
[07:28] <EEMPHASISS_> auronandace: just reading that web page further, it talks about installing local fonts.  PSB.
[07:28] <^Phantom^> How can I fsck an NTFS drive?
[07:28] <^Phantom^> Even if there are risks, I want to
[07:28] <Eddie303> ^Phantom^: ntfsck ?
[07:28] <^Phantom^> Thankies
[07:28] <Eddie303> just a guess
[07:29] <^Phantom^> not found
[07:29] <^Phantom^> heh
[07:29] <Eddie303> I did before and I don't know if it was ntfsck or fsck-ntfs
[07:29] <^Phantom^> I get error 2 when executing
[07:29] <Eddie303> fsck.ntfs I mean
[07:29] <wildbat> ^Phantom^:  just fsck , it usually will find the correct one for you .
[07:30] <tanuki> Is there any particular reason why the Ubuntu Sans font has one style of 'a' in roman and another style in italic?
[07:30] <^Phantom^> wildbat, it's giving me fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found
[07:30] <^Phantom^> then error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/sdd1
[07:30] <tanuki> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu%20Font%20Family?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=ubuntu-sans-0.007-variants-aa.png
[07:31] <Eddie303> ^Phantom^ do you ave ntfsprogs installed ?
[07:31] <^Phantom^> I don't think so
[07:31] <ohzie> ldr: Yes sorry, I've been in and out
[07:31] <^Phantom^> Er, it says it is already the latest version
[07:32] <Eddie303> ^Phantom^ are you sudoing ?
[07:32] <ohzie> ldr: I do NOT have an xorg.conf :[
[07:32] <^Phantom^> Eddie303, yes
[07:32] <wildbat> ^Phantom^: reinstall it
[07:32] <^Phantom^> actually, i wanna redo the sectors and stuff on that drive to all 999999999
[07:32] <^Phantom^> And hear the drive die
[07:33] <^Phantom^> cause it's already half-dead
[07:33] <ldr> ohzie good then the right place is /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[07:33] <ldr> ohzie now we need to determine which file is used can you poste /var/log/Xorg.0.log in pastebin plz
[07:33] <ohzie> I do not have one there either
[07:34] <ohzie> ldr: sec
[07:34] <wildbat> ^Phantom^: ntfsfix
[07:35] <^Phantom^> wildbad, I mean the drive is dying physically
[07:35] <wildbat> ^Phantom^: and what you wanna do?
[07:36] <^Phantom^> run hdparm on the thing and give it values that will make the drive scream and clank
[07:36] <^Phantom^> physically
[07:38] <ldr> ohzie btw /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d is directory which you most certainly have
[07:41] <bullgard6> Firefox 5 offers a service to complete entering a login name and password once you have agreed to. Where can I delete 2 such entries of the past because they are typos?
[07:43] <auronandace> bullgard6: just a guess: try clearing the history or private info
[07:43] <urlin2u> bullgard6, edit preferences security saved passwords
[07:47] <bullgard6> urlin2u: Excellent! Thank you verymuch for your help.
[07:48] <robin0800> ohzie, you may not have an xorg.conf file it has been removed from newer versions of ubuntu
[07:49] <bullgard6> auronandace: urlin2u'answer did help.
[07:50] <auronandace> !yay | bullgard6
[07:50] <urlin2u> bullgard6, well I got one person helped no problem. ;)
[07:50] <Soothsayer> I'm trying to run php in a shell script with a shebang on top. It does not work
[07:50] <Soothsayer> http://pastie.org/pastes/2369544/text
[07:51] <ldr> ohzie no offense but with the speed you are working it will take us days to get anywhere :)
[07:51]  * jrib wonders what "does not work" means for Soothsayer
[07:52] <Soothsayer> jrib, when I do a ./foo
[07:52] <Soothsayer> I get a "bash: ./ninja.php: /usr/bin/php^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[07:52] <Soothsayer> "
[07:52] <llutz_> Soothsayer: msdos lineending, use dos2unix to convert
[07:53] <jrib> Soothsayer: first issue is your ^M at the end of the line, second is that you probably want php5 (not sure on this; check that you have /usr/bin/php)
[07:53] <EEMPHASISS_> aurondance: Re: installing fonts. Thanks for that. Copied them to /usr/local/share/fonts (other directories also possible).  Then cd'd to there and ran sudo fc-cache -f -v
[07:54] <auronandace> EEMPHASISS_: good work
[07:56] <Soothsayer> llutz, jrib, I do have php5. Checking on the windows lineneding bit now
[07:57] <llutz_> !info dos2unix
[07:57] <jrib> Soothsayer: when I said "you want php5", I meant "/usr/bin/php5" instead of "/usr/bin/php" by the way
[07:57] <llutz_> ^^ Soothsayer
[07:57] <Soothsayer> /usr/bin/php -v  gives a php 5.3.5
[07:58] <Soothsayer> llutz, jrib: I think the dos2unix bit worked
[07:58] <Soothsayer> how did you figure that? did I have a CRLF ?
[07:58] <jrib> Soothsayer: ^M in your output
[07:58] <llutz_> Soothsayer: ^M <- sure sign for cr/lf
[07:59] <Soothsayer> I see.
[08:00] <jrib> Soothsayer: ah, php5-cli.postinst sets up /usr/bin/php with alternatives :D
[08:00] <Soothsayer> got things working :) thanks guys!
[08:01] <jrib> great, now you can move on to a real programming language
[08:01]  * jrib snickers
[08:02] <Soothsayer> jrib, oh c'mon, not the language war again.
[08:03] <hamub> anybody who knows pyqt and qtsql
[08:03] <jrib> Soothsayer: just kidding around
[08:03] <jrib> hamub: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[08:03] <Angelus_Mortis> anyone have a good resource for msi baord drivers for linux kernels
[08:03] <Soothsayer> jrib, hehe. well I've been a Java, C# and PHP developer in my life. I think php works well. Never seen it become a bottleneck _yet_.
[08:04] <hamub> how do i write code to insert data from a query into a table widget i am using qt desiner and pyqt4
[08:05] <plouffe> hamub, try #python
[08:06] <Besogon> HI! Could anybody tell me What program is used to view logs? in ubuntu
[08:06] <Angelus_Mortis> what kind od logs
[08:06] <Angelus_Mortis> i use gedit
[08:06] <iceroot> Besogon: less
[08:07] <iceroot> Besogon: and if you want a gui i guess gedit is a good start
[08:07] <linxeh> doesnt ubuntu come with a log file viewer still ?
[08:07] <linxeh>  System -> Administration -> Log File Viewer ?
[08:07] <linxeh> (I'm running headless ubuntu)
[08:09] <Besogon> iceroot, ubuntu has a gui program but as I'm using xfce now I can't find one. (I'll look at "less")
[08:10] <iceroot> Besogon: great i am also using lxde
[08:10] <iceroot> Besogon: the editor in lxde is called "leafpad"
[08:10] <Besogon> iceroot, oops, I knew about "less" it is opposite prog of "more" ^^
[08:11] <iceroot> Besogon: it is the improvment of "more"
[08:11] <jrib> *obligatory mention of "most" here*
[08:12] <iceroot> Besogon: less is a very nice tool to look at files with "G" you can go directly to the end, with "g" you go to the start, with /foobar you can search for "foobar"
[08:12] <RKyle> Well, the mount command given to me by that one guy allowed me to run dpkg --configure -a then apt-get upgrade -fix-broken repaired my install.
[08:12] <iceroot> jrib: does not come by default
[08:13] <iceroot> jrib:  all the good tools are not installed by default.... (zsh, vim, most, lxde)
[08:13]  * jrib nods :)
[08:13] <jrib> aptitude now too
[08:14] <iceroot> jrib: yes and openssh-server
[08:14] <RKyle> However now updates won't install and everytime I try to run the update tool it crashes but in command line it doesn't work.
[08:14] <jrib> RKyle: pastebin
[08:14] <iceroot> RKyle: error-message please
[08:16] <iceroot> if a process in top is showing 135% cpu usage does that mean the process is using threading because it goes over 100% or is there another reason for a value more then 100%?
[08:17] <jrib> iceroot: do you have more than one core?
[08:17] <iceroot> jrib: one core with hyperthreading
[08:17] <RKyle> Nevermind, I got the manager to come up and it said it was because of the partial upgrade and I am repairing it.
[08:17] <iceroot> jrib: so top shows 2 cpus
[08:18] <jrib> iceroot: yeah with 2 cores, I'm pretty sure mine works that way (100% for each core)
[08:18] <iceroot> jrib: but if it is a single process it must the an implementation fo threading in the program?
[08:18] <jrib> iceroot: that would be my guess
[08:18] <hamub> how do i register my nick on freenode
[08:18] <RKyle> Thanks though jrib and iceroot.
[08:19] <jrib> !register | hamub
[08:20] <iceroot> jrib: ok, thank you
[08:20] <aatish> hi everyone. i have matlab for linux. i run the ./install command from the terminal after switching to the dvd rom directory but i get "eval: 1: /tmp/mathworks_29066/java/jre/glnxa64/jre/bin/java: Permission denied Finished". i get this even if i use sudo. can some one help me on this
[08:20] <aatish> thanks in advance
[08:21] <jrib> !matlab | aatish
[08:21] <iceroot> aatish: is the java thing on the dvd?
[08:21] <archstanton657> anyone know if there is a v7 rdp client for natty yet?
[08:21] <jrib> aatish: check there, no idea if it helps with that issue though
[08:21] <iceroot> aatish: ah sorry stupid question
[08:21] <archstanton657> need to be able to do dual screen rdp
[08:22] <aatish> iceroot: i already have eclipse installed and running on my computer. but there is a folder java in the dvd
[08:23] <iceroot> aatish: yes but the path you posted is on the hdd
[08:23] <aatish> !matlab
[08:23] <iceroot> aatish: i first i thought maybe it want to change something on the dvd which is read only
[08:24] <milamber> iceroot: i think you are right, he has to copy and set executable bit
[08:24] <iceroot> milamber: but the error message he posted was for a file on the hdd so i guess i am wrong with my first guess
[08:24] <aatish> iceroot: i already tried copied all the files to the hard disk and set executable bit but in vain
[08:26] <iceroot> aatish: can you run "touch /tmp/mathworks_29066/java/jre/glnxa64/jre/bin/foobar"? or does is also give permission denied
[08:26] <milamber> aatish: did you read this? http://www.mathworks.com/support/solutions/en/data/1-DHWZAO/index.html?solution=1-DHWZAO
[08:27] <aatish> lol. from this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB matlab 11.04 is not a supported system for matlab. and am using 11.04. is there any workaround?? lol
[08:28] <aatish> iceroot: once i get permission denied the /tmp........ get deleted
[08:28] <jrib> aatish: my guess is you may have some issues with the gui, but install should be ok
[08:29] <aatish> milamber: am trying your solution. will be right back. thank you all
[08:29] <archstanton657> anyone know a v7 rdp client for ubuntu?
[08:33] <vivek> yo
[08:33] <tabakhase> even when hide+ing sda3 from ubuntu in recovery mode it gets corrupted =( @ urlin2u , i will try other way around now...
[08:33] <Guest58480> how to identify then?
[08:33] <urlin2u> tabakhase, your still up what time is it there?
[08:34] <y34tz> Hello I have a quick question can I run both SunJDK and OpenJDK on the same system hassle free?
[08:34] <tabakhase> tabakhase 10:31 am
[08:34] <iceroot> y34tz: yes
[08:34] <y34tz> iceroot, great thanks
[08:34] <tabakhase> urlin2u im in "reshuddeling" proccess ;-)
[08:34] <Guest58480> is their any servers for backtrack?
[08:34] <iceroot> !backtrack | Guest58480
[08:34] <urlin2u> tabakhase, 1:34am here pacific NW
[08:34] <urlin2u> US
[08:35] <tabakhase> urlin2u mez -> +1/2
[08:35] <chenthu> how to change the "su" password if i have forgotten the password or never created it?
[08:35] <Guest58480> yeah i have the same ques.
[08:35] <iceroot> chenthu: dont use a root acocunt
[08:35] <y34tz> iceroot, I want to install processing.org which requires SunJDK but I was afraid it might interfere with other applications I have running which require OpenJDK
[08:35] <iceroot> !sudo | chenthu
[08:35] <tabakhase> chenthu sudo passwd root? or its just disabled
[08:36] <urlin2u> chenthu, you can reset the user password.
[08:36] <iceroot> tabakhase: please dont suggest here to create a root-account, we support only sudo
[08:36] <y34tz> iceroot, Thanks again bye
[08:36] <y34tz> :)
[08:36] <Guest58480> hey . can we run IDM on ubuntu?
[08:36] <urlin2u> chenthu, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[08:36] <iceroot> Guest58480: what is idm?
[08:37] <Guest58480> internet download manager
[08:37] <chenthu> iceroot, tabakhase urlin2u , i my sudo is working cause i know the password for my user name but when i give su it askes for a password and none of my oassword work
[08:37] <Guest58480> its a download manager
[08:37] <chenthu> passwork*
[08:37] <chenthu> password*
[08:37] <iceroot> chenthu: su is asking for the root-password which is disabled by default, sudo is asking for the user-password
[08:37] <archstanton657> rdp for ubuntu cant believe theres no decent rpd client as default
[08:37] <urlin2u> chenthu, use sudo -i
[08:38] <iceroot> archstanton657: rdesktop (non-free)
[08:38] <tabakhase> iceroot its not about creating, its just adding a keyfile/new password ;-) and surly not recommend...
[08:38] <iceroot> archstanton657: also x2go should have a rdp function too
[08:38] <archstanton657> does it handle dual screen?
[08:38] <tabakhase> but on server im doing everything on root (debian)
[08:38] <iceroot> tabakhase: and we dont support doing something as root
[08:38] <chenthu> iceroot, oh ok...isnt there a need for it to be enabled?....are su and sudo same?
[08:38] <chenthu> urlin2u, k
[08:38] <archstanton657> or have any of the performance improvements of 6.1 v7
[08:39] <iceroot> chenthu: there is no need for an enabled root-account
[08:39] <iceroot> chenthu: you can to everything with sudo too
[08:39] <chenthu> urlin2u, its working thank you
[08:39] <milamber> archstanton657: you could also look into rdesktop
[08:39] <archstanton657> will check rdesktop and x2go
[08:39] <chenthu> iceroot, but when i am trying to move a protected directory to usr/ahr it says ommiting
[08:40] <iceroot> tabakhase: also debian does not provided a root-account in the expert-installation, debian is using the same config as ubuntu there with only sudo and an disabled root-account
[08:40] <iceroot> chenthu: sudo mv foo bar
[08:40] <iceroot> !sudo | chenthu
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> any sugestions for fastest SSD for natty 64?
[08:41] <chenthu> iceroot, thnk you
[08:41] <iceroot> lotuspsychje: ##hardware
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> iceroot: tnx
[08:42] <chenthu> urlin2u, iceroot thank you
[08:42] <urlin2u> chenthu, no problem.
[08:43] <urlin2u> tabakhase, I'm going to crash see you again hope y9ou get that thang worked out. ;)
[08:44] <tabakhase> urlin2u bye, thanks so far. im now "first windows then ubuntu" on desktop, when thats done start thinking about notebook... backup ubuntu and do same or try to get win "afterinstalled" working over there
[08:44] <tabakhase> and you quitet half a second to early.
[08:44] <chenthu> how can i grant myself control over a directory?....if i use chmod 500 then my overall user group would be 500 right? i dont want that i wanna have rights only with that particular directory
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> tabakhase: install ubuntu as single you wont regret :p
[08:45] <iceroot> chenthu: chgrp groupname
[08:45] <iceroot> chenthu: chown username dir
[08:45] <iceroot> chenthu: or chown username:groupname dir
[08:45] <tabakhase> lotuspsychje what fails exacly in the moment where i need to connect my telephone system (elemg c48.net)
[08:46] <iceroot> chenthu: and dont!! change the ownership in /var/srv or where you tried to move something
[08:46] <milamber> chenthu: be careful with changing directory permissions
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> tabakhase: im sure there's a solution for your telephone for ubuntu too
[08:46] <milamber> chenthu: what are you actually trying to do?
[08:47] <archstanton657> rdesktop is only rdp v5
[08:47] <tabakhase> lotuspsychje the com port is not giving all features, its a strange tunnelt telnet via a winxp driver with a virtual modem by usb :D
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> tabakhase: you got hardware/driver problems with it?
[08:47] <chenthu> iceroot, i wanna move the bitcoin directory, which i extracted to Downloads and it is with default permissions 500 , how dp i cpy it ...cause it says omiiting direcoty when i give sudo cp
[08:47] <iceroot> archstanton657: also e nonfree version?
[08:47] <tabakhase> the voip or so is not a problem at all
[08:48] <iceroot> chenthu: can you post the exact error message please
[08:48] <iceroot> chenthu: and the command you used
[08:48] <chenthu> milamber, i wanna move the bitcoin directory, which i extracted to Downloads and it is with default permissions 500 , how dp i cpy it ...cause it says omiiting direcoty when i give sudo cp
[08:48] <chenthu> iceroot, ok
[08:48] <archstanton657> iceroot, e?
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> tabakhase: maybe there's another way around to tunnel through ssh or something?
[08:49] <milamber> are you giving the -r option (recursive)?
[08:49] <tabakhase> lotuspsychje maybe yes.... but keeping "a harddrive" is right now the easyer solution aaand: its nearly monday
[08:49] <milamber> chenthu: pastebin will also help
[08:50] <iceroot> archstanton657: the
[08:50] <chenthu> onto it
[08:50] <milamber> archstanton657: i think the new one in 11.04 is something called remmina? (it has been a while)
[08:50] <chenthu> milamber, ONTO IT
[08:50] <iceroot> archstanton657: by keybaord isnt i a good state (cola in it :) )
[08:50] <archstanton657> yeah just trying that
[08:51] <milamber> chenthu: didn't mean to come off as rushing, just agreeing with iceroot :)
[08:51] <chenthu> iceroot, milamber  http://pastebin.com/wqCSZmeP
[08:51] <archstanton657> iceroot, no cola its the worst may aswell have spilt cilit bang in it
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> tabakhase: or maybe virtualbox(install win) on ubuntu and try the virtual usb modem?
[08:52] <iceroot> chenthu: sudo cp -r foo bar
[08:52] <iceroot> chenthu: you forgot the -r which means recursiv and is used to copy directorys
[08:52] <milamber> chenthu: to copy directories you have to include a -r, so: cp -r bitcoin-0.3.24 /usr/share
[08:52] <iceroot> chenthu: the error has nothing to do with permission issues
[08:53] <milamber> /usr/share/*
[08:53] <chenthu> iceroot, milamber , k... thank you :)
[08:53] <Hail_Spacecake> what exactly does startup disk creator do to make a bootable usb stick?
[08:54] <Hail_Spacecake> I need to do this from another linux os
[08:54] <iceroot> Hail_Spacecake: you have an iso?
[08:54] <Hail_Spacecake> yeah
[08:54] <iceroot> Hail_Spacecake: sudo dd file.iso /dev/sdX
[08:55] <Hail_Spacecake> oh that's it?
[08:55] <iceroot> Hail_Spacecake: that will create a bootable usb-stick from the iso
[08:55] <Hail_Spacecake> and that'll boot okay?
[08:55] <archstanton657> remmina definately looks like the rdp client to go for they so should have used it as default
[08:55] <llutz_> iceroot: not from ubuntu-isos
[08:55] <Hail_Spacecake> wait, to the root of the device? not a partition on it?
[08:56] <archstanton657> its still not there yet but dont think theres anything better as yet
[08:56] <milamber> archstanton657: i am pretty sure that is the default for natty, i tend to stick to the lts though
[08:56] <iceroot> llutz_: doesnt matter what iso
[08:56] <archstanton657> still rdesktop as default in natty just installed
[08:56] <llutz_>  ubuntu-iso aren't hybrid-iso (yet), you cannot just dd them to usb-devices (they won't boot)
[08:56] <iceroot> llutz_: sure they do
[08:57] <iceroot> llutz_: i am creating my usb-sticks with that method
[08:57] <iceroot> llutz_: used alternate cd
[08:57] <llutz_> iceroot: ok, destop won't
[08:57] <milamber> !info remmina
[08:57] <llutz_> iceroot: last alternate i used was 9.10, also failed.
[08:58] <iceroot> llutz_: 11.04 i tried and it worked
[08:58] <milamber> archstanton657: seems it is available at least. any reason you can't use vnc?
[08:58] <iceroot> llutz_: i dont get why it should not work
[08:58] <llutz_> iceroot: hybrid-iso is a feature-request, not decided yet afaik
[08:58] <iceroot> llutz_: dd it to a stick is the same as burning it to cd isnt it?
[08:58] <archstanton657> i need dual screen and also want v7 efficiencys over wan
[08:58] <llutz_> nope
[08:58] <RKyle> I don't know if this has anything to do with it but it probably does but I installed kubuntu-desktop and removed ubuntu-desktop and when I logged in it looked like it is trying to use the default ubuntu desktop with the theme but there are no menus however everything else still works fine. Do I need to set KDE to be the default session or something and if so how do I do it or is this even the problem?
[08:58] <llutz_> iceroot: the way the bootloader works is differnt.
[08:59] <iceroot> llutz_: what is e.g. k3b doing different then dd?
[08:59] <archstanton657> rdping from windows 7 to windows 7 or 2008 is a great experience want it matched in ubuntu
[08:59] <milamber> RKyle: you can't really remove ubuntu-desktop as it is a meta package. you should be able to select your session from the login screen
[08:59] <llutz_> iceroot: it "burns" cd/dvd using cdrrecord/wodim
[09:00] <llutz_> iceroot: same reason you cannot use dd to write iso9660 cds
[09:00] <milamber> Hail_Spacecake: what version are you creating the ubuntu stick from?
[09:00] <iceroot> llutz_: but the iso-fs is in the iso istn it? and dd is just copying it
[09:00] <RKyle> milamber: When I ran 'apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop' the command worked fine and didn't return any errors and I know I can but I want to set KDE as the default.
[09:01] <Hail_Spacecake> latest one
[09:01] <Hail_Spacecake> 11.04
[09:01] <milamber> Hail_Spacecake: you mentioned that you were going to be creating the stick from a different version of linux, what version is that?
[09:01] <llutz_> iceroot: yes but when the bios calls it, cd and usb-devices work different, thus the need of hybrid-iso to get both working
[09:01] <Hail_Spacecake> oh, arch liux
[09:01] <Hail_Spacecake> *linux
[09:01] <Hail_Spacecake> but if you're just dd'ing the iso to the stick you can do that from pretty much any unix-like
[09:02] <iceroot> llutz_: hm didnt know that, interesting point, i guess i will do some readup
[09:02] <iceroot> llutz_: and hybrid iso means it can run i386 and amd64?
[09:02] <llutz_> iceroot: syslinux has an article on that, unfortunately i don't have www right now to get the link.
[09:02] <iceroot> llutz_: i have access to google :) so no problem
[09:02] <llutz_> no, hybrid only means "boots from cd + usb" without mods
[09:03] <llutz_> 32/64 is something different
[09:03] <iceroot> llutz_: ok
[09:03] <milamber> Hail_Spacecake: unetbootin is a common tool for creating usb linux sticks, can you see if it is available from arch linux repos?
[09:04] <RKyle> So is it possible to change the default session to KDE or no?
[09:04] <desss> hi everyone, could anyone help me finding xorg.cong in ubuntu 11.04?
[09:04] <milamber> RKyle: echo startkde > ~/.xinitrc
[09:04] <llutz_> desss: theres no by default
[09:04] <desss> llutz_:  how can I edit my display options then?
[09:04] <desss> llutz_: I want to setup dual monitors
[09:04] <milamber> !meta-package > RKyle
[09:05] <Benkinooby> hi, i have a corsair pendrive, that causes me trouble. when plugging it in, dmesg give me http://pastebin.com/fp1fLWMM Further on it will not be listed in /dev Is it broken?
[09:05] <llutz_> desss: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/   seem to be the place to put your configs.
[09:05] <iceroot> llutz_: but i thought with grub2 there is no different how the bios is handling something because grub2 is doing the job then
[09:05] <desss> llutz_: I cannot find anything display related there, only mouse settings etc
[09:06] <iceroot> llutz_: and the call for grub2 should be the same on any devices but i guess i will do some reading on that
[09:06] <spartan-11510> desss -> menu-> optimisation -> screen
[09:06] <aatish> thanks again everyone i succeeded in getting the installer. i just needed to set executable bit for the java binaries in the java folder. i only set for install earlier. thanks
[09:06] <llutz_> desss: create a new file containing your config settings
[09:06] <desss> spartan-11510: that does not work for me (cannot see 2nd monitor even though it is plugged in)
[09:06] <desss> llutz_: how should I name it? does it matter?
[09:06] <spartan-11510> Have you make the last update?
[09:07] <llutz_> desss: your choice
[09:07] <sender> hello, I've switched off session management, but when I restart, all the 'session' windows open up automatically. How can I reset this? Thanks
[09:07] <desss> spartan-11510: me?
[09:07] <spartan-11510> dess ->Yeah
[09:07] <desss> spartan-11510: I do updates every day or so
[09:07] <spartan-11510> dess -> e find the  screen
[09:07] <llutz_> iceroot: when dd-ing a non-hybrid iso to usb-device, the BIOS won't even be able to run the bootloader. so its not a grub2-thing
[09:08] <iceroot> llutz_: but the bootloader is always at the same position isnt it?
[09:08] <desss> spartan-11510: e?
[09:08] <spartan-11510> dess :He your computer?
[09:08] <Benkinooby> desss, try a programme call arandr or any other *randr
[09:08] <llutz_> iceroot: usb-devices are different in some way. i don't know details
[09:09] <sender> I've set "automatically remember running applications when logging out" to not be checked - but still the windows open
[09:09] <Benkinooby> !arandr
[09:09] <bullgard6> Youtube: "You need to upgrade your Adobe Flash Player to watch this video. Upgrade to Flash Player 10." Where should I properly download Flash Player when using Ubuntu? As a Firefox 5 plugin via Firefox?
[09:09] <desss> I tried everything so far, now a friend of me emailed me what should I write into xorg.conf (+ mentioned what SHOULD have been there allready) - but apparently there is no xorg.conf so I have no idea what to write into it
[09:10] <Benkinooby> desss, oh good point... i don't have a xorg.conf either!!! don't know why ubuntu is so different at that point
[09:10] <desss> :S
[09:10] <iceroot> bullgard6: which ubuntu version?
[09:10] <spartan-11510> dess: i've read it's depreacaed to modify the xorg.conf. Can you see the 2 monitor?
[09:11] <desss> spartan-11510: yes I can see it, it is on my table
[09:11] <bullgard6> iceroot: 11.10 Alpha 3
[09:11] <iceroot> bullgard6: #ubuntu+1
[09:11] <desss> spartan-11510: just kidding sorry, the 2nd monitor is plugged in (lscpi sees it) but does not work (gnome-display-manager does not see it)
[09:11] <spartan-11510>  :D... I want say in the program for configure the screen?
[09:12] <llutz_> iceroot: /usr/share/doc/syslinux/isolinux.txt.gz has some info about
[09:12] <iceroot> bullgard6: but it should be "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[09:12] <milamber> iceroot: a bit by bit copy of an iso will not make it bootable
[09:12] <asftm> hola , como se renombra un archivo ¿?
[09:12] <spartan-11510> ok, have you dupplicate screen on second screen or it's off
[09:12] <iceroot> milamber: but the iso already have the info about the boot-sector
[09:12] <Benkinooby> desss, have you tried arandr?
[09:12] <desss> asftm: commo esta usted, only english here...
[09:12] <desss> spartan-11510: its off
[09:13] <desss> Benkinooby: what should I try with arandr?
[09:13] <Benkinooby> desss, I use it to set up my two monitors
[09:13] <Benkinooby> desss, it is pretty easy to use...
[09:13] <desss> Benkinooby: in Ubuntu? what should I do?
[09:14] <Benkinooby> desss, but it's a gtk tool... so you can not use it from commandline
[09:14] <Benkinooby> desss, sudo apt-get install arandr
[09:14] <desss> Benkinooby: that is an advantage, isnt it? :P
[09:14] <desss> ok
[09:14] <asftm> I don´t speak english desss :/
[09:14] <Benkinooby> :P
[09:14] <Benkinooby> !es
[09:14] <desss> asftm: this is english channel
[09:14] <Benkinooby> !es asftm
[09:14] <asftm> sorry
[09:14] <asftm> bye !
[09:14] <asftm> ^^
[09:15] <desss> bye
[09:15] <jose__> Hi, what i can do with this "this driver is activated but not currently in use" with nvidia on ubuntu 11.04? Thx
[09:15] <Benkinooby> jose__, reboot maybe?
[09:15] <milamber> iceroot: http://pcsupport.about.com/od/termsi/g/isofile.htm
[09:15] <GoodAD> Elfix c'est un pd
[09:16] <jose__> Benkinooby, i was rebooted but not work
[09:16] <spartan-11510> GoodAd -> Useless
[09:16] <desss> Benkinooby: I installed it, did it appear in the menu for you?
[09:16] <Benkinooby> jose__, ok, that was my guess... now i don'T know further
[09:16] <GoodAD> use une lesse? c'est toi que je vais mettre en lesse.
[09:16] <iceroot> milamber: no info about the boot-sector
[09:16] <lotuspsychje> !fr | GoodAD
[09:17] <iceroot> milamber: and it says ALL infos are in the iso
[09:17] <Benkinooby> desss, it should be in your menu... if it is not, you can at least test arandr by starting it from command line... just use the command arandr
[09:17] <spartan-11510> GoodAd : Mmh pour insulter les gens vas ailleurs s'il te plait
[09:17] <GoodAD> !eu
[09:17] <GoodAD> je n'insulte personne
[09:17] <GoodAD> c'est toi qui m'insulte
[09:18] <desss> Benkinooby: I installed and runned it, but the same problem as in gnome-display-properties, I only see 1 VGA
[09:18] <Benkinooby> desss, right click to te gry area
[09:18] <Benkinooby> desss, *gry=gray
[09:18] <llutz_> lp 524803
[09:18] <desss> Benkinooby: yes, only VGA 1 >
[09:18] <milamber> iceroot: "It's a different process than burning a bunch of music or document files  to a disc because your CD/DVD/BD burning software must "assemble" the  contents of the ISO file onto the disc." therefore a bit by bit copy does not create a usable media
[09:19] <Benkinooby> desss, do you use a lpatop`
[09:19] <iceroot> milamber:  i mean the step "burning an iso with k3b" or using dd for an iso. has nothing to do with the normal "burn files and documents"
[09:19] <Benkinooby> desss, do you use a laptop?
[09:19] <iceroot> llutz_: thanks
[09:20] <desss> Benkinooby: PC, the problem is I use 2 video cards (both have only 1 VGA output)
[09:20] <iceroot> llutz_: but that bug explains why it was working with 11.04 and not with 9.10
[09:21] <iceroot> llutz_: but i am wrong it was patched after 11.04 release
[09:22] <llutz_> iceroot: so maybe from 11.10+
[09:22] <Benkinooby> desss, what drivers are you using?
[09:22] <iceroot> llutz_: maybe i was using a point-release from 11.04
[09:22] <iceroot> llutz_: if there is one already
[09:23] <Benkinooby> desss, run this programm in your command line "jockey-gtk"
[09:23] <iceroot> !downloads
[09:23] <iceroot> !download
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> any sugestions for this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/713186
[09:23] <iceroot> hm no point-release
[09:23] <milamber> iceroot: dd is a bit by bit copy, essentially the same as copying files. burning w/ k3b would build the necessary steps
[09:24] <iceroot> milamber: but the file-system is already in the iso
[09:24] <iceroot> milamber: if you mount an iso you hace the iso 9660 thing (or what it is called)
[09:24] <desss> Benkinooby: what am I supposed to see there? I only see 1 experimental driver (for nVidia - the extern card)
[09:24] <milamber> iceroot: mounting an iso is different than creating a bootable media
[09:24] <iceroot> milamber: mounting an iso is always read  only because it has the iso-fs
[09:24] <Benkinooby> desss, ah ok... jockey-gtk will show you want drivers you can use for your cards
[09:25] <jose__> Hi, what i can do with this "this driver is activated but not currently in use" with nvidia on ubuntu 11.04? Thx
[09:25] <Benkinooby> desss, mybe this site cna give you some inspiration http://cornerstone.multitouch.fi/cornerstone-documentation/multiple-graphics-cards
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> jose_: try to activate
[09:25] <iceroot> milamber: yes but i dont get why k3b will create a new fs if all the infos are already in the iso
[09:26] <iceroot> milamber: iso is not something like tar.gz is a complete image with filesystem
[09:26] <iceroot> milamber: also grub2 can boot isos and if i am correct grub2 is reading the boot-sector from the iso
[09:26] <jose__> lotuspsychje, how?
[09:27] <iceroot> milamber: and when i have a ubuntu-cd and doing an image of that with dd, ALL infos from the cd goes into the iso
[09:27] <iceroot> milamber: + boot-record. like when i dd a harddrive to an image, there is also the boot-sector
[09:27] <milamber> iceroot: "the image now has to simultaneously look like a CD and a partitioned USB disk" so even though the iso has the file system there are other boot options to consider/create
[09:27] <bullgard6> iceroot:  Done. --  Thank you.
[09:28] <sender> how to change a lot of file associations (all text stuff) from one application to an other? (all assocs with gedit to sublime text 2)
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> jose_:http://papablogger.com/solved-nvidia-driver-activated-but-not-in-use/778/
[09:28] <tsaknorris> where i can find that kind of chart where i can see CPU and GPU. I mean i can look some intel CPU and see what is best GPU for it.
[09:28] <Benkinooby> desss, do you have at chance a window installed on the same computer?
[09:29] <tsaknorris> i know that there is that kind of chart somewhere
[09:29] <iceroot> milamber: but why should dd not read the infos when i do "sudo dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/foo/bar.iso
[09:29] <Benkinooby> desss, i mean window operationg system
[09:29] <iceroot> milamber: where are these bootoptions?
[09:29] <sender> jose__, lotuspsychje: that fix didnt work, NIVIDA drivers and 11.04 never worked for me. I downgraded to 10.10.
[09:29] <desss> Benkinooby: yes, I am running Ubuntu 11.04 but only one monitor works
[09:29] <Benkinooby> desss, and with windows both work?
[09:29] <N47hz> hi thr
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> sender: im sure you can fix nvidia for natty
[09:30] <sender> lotuspsychje: i've tried almost everything
[09:30] <jose__> sender, i think that too
[09:30] <N47hz> i need help is anyone of you from South Africa
[09:30] <milamber> iceroot: if you created an iso backup of a hard drive, and then copied that to an external, do you think the external would then be bootable?
[09:30] <sender> lotuspsychje: it was 2 months ago or sth, maybe it changed
[09:30] <desss> Benkinooby: both? the 2nd monitor is off even though it is plugged in
[09:30] <desss> Benkinooby: and yes, I am in a graphics mode
[09:30] <sender> lotuspsychje: I also installed the NVIDIA drivers from the NVIDIA site
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> sender:im sure this channel could help
[09:30] <Benkinooby> desss, i am speaking about the windows operating system
[09:30] <N47hz> i need someone to help me with a SQLi
[09:30] <sender> lotuspsychje: I've asked in here :)
[09:30] <hackguide4u> YES
[09:31] <hackguide4u> N47HZ
[09:31] <desss> Benkinooby: MS Windows?
[09:31] <Benkinooby> desss, yes
[09:31] <desss> Benkinooby: I tried running it aswell, everything works in there
[09:31] <sender> lotuspsychje: actually today I updated all packages, downloaded the latest NVIDA (180) and tried again, nothing but problems
[09:31] <iceroot> milamber: if i do "sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/foo/hdd.img" and then do "sudo dd if=/foo/hdd.img of=/dev/sdb" sdb is bootable
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> sender: did you clean install natty or upgrade?
[09:31] <Benkinooby> desss, ah, ok... so for windows it whors, for ubunut it doesn't ... until now ;)
[09:31] <iceroot> milamber: i only need the first 512bytes to make it bootable
[09:31] <sender> lotuspsychje: clean install
[09:31] <Benkinooby> desss, whors = works
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> sender: 32/64bit?
[09:32] <iceroot> milamber: so why should a cd be different. thats the point i dont get
[09:32] <sender> lotuspsychje: running x64
[09:32] <desss> Benkinooby: it has not ever worked in Ubuntu for me
[09:32] <jnsl_> Hi can i add a user to two unix groups at the same time with usermod?
[09:32] <Benkinooby> desss, ok
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> sender: i got natty 64 on ati..
[09:32] <N47hz> hai know how you can get NVidia LOL
[09:32] <N47hz> i hte Natty
[09:32] <Benkinooby> desss, can you use the command "lspci" and see if you can find both video cards?
[09:32] <N47hz> i rather use 10.
[09:32] <sender> lotuspsychje: ATI? ok that would be completely different right?
[09:33] <N47hz> i will rather use 10.04
[09:33] <desss> Benkinooby: I can, kernel seems to see them
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> sender:yes, but im sure there's a solution for your prob
[09:33] <N47hz> better support
[09:33] <Benkinooby> desss, ok
[09:33] <desss> Benkinooby:
[09:33] <desss> lspci | grep VGA
[09:33] <desss> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[09:33] <desss> 05:04.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 15)
[09:33] <FloodBot1> desss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> sender: did you paste stuff in channel?
[09:34] <pk4r> Hello, need some help. Just installed 11.04 to Asus A6kt laptop with Mobility Radeon X1600, upon first login I'm just seeing background and mouse cursor only.
[09:34] <N47hz> i am lost
[09:34] <pk4r> Ubuntu 2d seems to work.
[09:34] <sender> lotuspsychje: I think so, only it needs to be addressed by an ubuntu dev or a nividia dev I guess - there's a launchpad bug with a lot of subscribers, including me. Never was 'notified' of a solution
[09:34] <Benkinooby> desss, ok
[09:34] <iceroot> milamber: its not that i dont trust you but i dont understand the difference between a cd and a hdd image created with dd
[09:34] <milamber> iceroot: i don't believe that is correct. i have made several copies of different hard drive images and copied them to externals, they are not bootable. grub2 requires a special entry to be made for it to find the iso. when creating a usb stick the first 512bytes are created from the iso information
[09:34] <Benkinooby> desss, use the command "glxinfo"
[09:34] <desss> Benkinooby: that has got a p huge output
[09:35] <Benkinooby> desss, paste it pastebin.com or send me the output as private message
[09:35] <desss> Benkinooby: I am using the intern Intel card at the moment (seems to be better)
[09:35] <iceroot> milamber: the part with the hdd is 100% true
[09:35] <desss> Benkinooby: ok
[09:35] <iceroot> milamber: grub needs the first 512 bytes
[09:35] <iceroot> milamber: if you want the boot-sector from your hdd "sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/foo/bootsector.img bs=512"
[09:36] <jnsl_> Hey! I'm using this command to add a existing user to existing group "usermod -a -G ftp tony" but can i add the user to 5 groups in one line ?
[09:36] <iceroot> milamber: that is 100% working
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> sender: pastebin xorg logs maybe in channel?
[09:36] <llutz_> jnsl_: yes, group1,group2,group345
[09:37] <jnsl_> llutz_ ah Oki, thanks :))
[09:38] <Jigal> good morning. Can someone tell me how i can get into my bios menu on an ubuntu system
[09:38] <nemo911> всем привет
[09:38] <lotuspsychje> !ru | nemo911
[09:39] <desss> !cz desss
[09:39] <desss> !cs desss
[09:39] <desss> :(
[09:39] <iceroot> milamber: The Master Boot Record (MBR) is the first 512 bytes of a storage device. The MBR is not a partition; it is reserved for the operating system's bootloader and the storage device's partition table.   https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Master_Boot_Record
[09:39] <nemo911> что на английском только калякаем
[09:39] <Benkinooby> desss, ok, from your glxinfo paste at http://pastebin.com/nLZupSPT i take that only one video card is active. nothing new
[09:39] <iceroot> !ru | nemo911
[09:39] <Benkinooby> desss, now i am pretty much out of ideas
[09:40] <desss> Benkinooby: so am I
[09:40] <desss> Benkinooby: anyway thanks
[09:40] <Benkinooby> desss, the problem is that i don't know how to activate the second monitor
[09:40] <Benkinooby> desss, one last thing maybe
[09:40] <desss> Benkinooby: I got an email from a friend of mine, but he is like "ok here is my xorg.conf - __you should see similiar stuff in yours__"
[09:40] <desss> -.-'
[09:41] <sender> lotuspsychje: thanks for the help but I think I'll refrain from the trial and error path for now (again) ;)
[09:41] <Benkinooby> desss, you can go and ask very very very nice in #debian if they can give you a hint. usually #debian hates it, when ubunut folk are asking them for ubuntu support, but because ubuntu is based of debian the might be able to point out the right direction
[09:41] <desss> Benkinooby: thanks :)
[09:42] <sender> lotuspsychje: do you know it's possible to have rename,delete,copy,cut commands in the right click menu, in open/save nautilus windows?
[09:42] <Benkinooby> desss, but be warned: it could also be that the send you away immedeatly
[09:42] <Benkinooby> desss, the = they
[09:42] <iceroot> desss: if you have a ubuntu-related questions ask here, if it is debian related ask in #debian
[09:42] <babilen> Benkinooby: Please do not send Ubuntu users to #debian
[09:42] <desss> iceroot: it is dual monitor related :P
[09:43] <iceroot> desss: on ubuntu? or on debian?
[09:43] <desss> ubuntu...
[09:43] <iceroot> desss: what is the problem?
[09:43] <desss> no help here though, it is a complex issue
[09:43] <desss> iceroot: I am trying to setup dual monitors on my PC
[09:43] <iceroot> desss: normally only the question/details are bad
[09:43] <Benkinooby> babilen, usually i do not, and i also gave him "warning". the point is, that #debian has some very experienced users that might give you a hint in the correct direction.
[09:43] <iceroot> desss: that is not complexe
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> sender: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1647855
[09:44] <iceroot> desss: what vga? nvidia? ati? intel?
[09:44] <Benkinooby> babilen, in general you are right. but many times when i was not able to find a solution in the bew, or get usefull help here in #ubunut an nice ask in #debian helped me
[09:44] <desss> iceroot: the problem seems to be that I have 2 video cards - intern Intel and extern nVidia - both only have 1 VGA output - at the moment I am running the intern Intel and the second monitor (plugged in nVidia) does not work
[09:44] <Benkinooby> bew = web
[09:44] <milamber> iceroot: a usb mbr and a cd/dvd mbr are not the same thing. they need to be created for them. the hybrid method that is coming will make itself look like both so you can do a bit by bit copy
[09:45] <iceroot> desss: there is a utility in gnome/ubuntu to setup the xorg.conf
[09:45] <babilen> Benkinooby: I know, I am a regular in #debian -- The point is that we can not help Ubuntu users as we do not know Ubuntu.
[09:45] <iceroot> desss: also there is vi(m)
[09:45] <desss> iceroot: I know, but in gnome-display-properties I cannot see the 2nd monitor
[09:46] <iceroot> desss: is "xrandr" showing both cards?
[09:46] <sender> lotuspsychje: I've tried downloading and installing by hand - I got a desktop but still no compiz effects and very very bad performance when having 5+ windows open on 4 workspaces
[09:46] <desss> iceroot: only 1 of them (lspci shows both thogh)
[09:47] <iceroot> desss: ok xrandr is (imo) using xorg.conf for detecting
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> sender: dont give up, at the end there's a solution for everything
[09:47] <iceroot> desss: can you paste your xorg.conf to pastebin?
[09:47] <desss> iceroot: the problem is there is no /etc/xorg.conf in Ubuntu 11.04 as far as I know
[09:47] <fatih> hi all, i wanna learn a programming language and i chose Pascal. How can i start? What should i setup?
[09:47] <iceroot> desss: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:47] <feng> When I use vim + ctags in ubuntu to browse kernel source code, I got a problem that if there are more than one implement, say ioremap, the vim just give the first implement, not give a list of implement
[09:47] <feng> why?
[09:47] <Jigal> good morning. Can someone tell me how i can get into my bios menu on an ubuntu system
[09:47] <desss> iceroot: there is no such file
[09:48] <iceroot> desss: sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf :)
[09:48] <Benkinooby> babilen, some things are ident in ubuntu and debian and in that case #debian can be very helpful. but again, you're right.
[09:48] <llutz_> Jigal: thats a matter of your mainboard, not of the uses OS
[09:48] <llutz_> used
[09:48] <milamber> Jigal: that is not related to ubuntu, that is hardware
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> Jigal:Bios is accessed at pc boot pressing esc/del/f2/f10
[09:48] <sender> lotuspsychje: I know, thanks  :)
[09:48] <desss> iceroot: it is empty
[09:49] <Jigal> hmmm
[09:49] <Jigal> ok and what if my keyboard is not working
[09:49] <iceroot> desss: there is also a nvidia-tool "nvidia-xserver-config" or something like that which will create a xorg.conf for you
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> sender: i would follow iceroot sugestion pastebin xorg.conf
[09:49] <llutz_> Jigal: get a new one
[09:49] <desss> iceroot: from what I understood so far, xorg cfg files moved to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d for some reason
[09:49] <Jigal> llutz, its a laptop
[09:49] <milamber> desss: as mentioned before, xorg.conf is not included w/ ubuntu by default. you can however create one (from scratch)
[09:49] <iceroot> desss: no
[09:49] <Jigal> who says its broken
[09:49] <llutz_> Jigal: again: that is NOT a mtter of the OS. BIOS access is earlier as any OS runs
[09:50] <desss> milamber: how can I create one? or well, generate one?
[09:50] <fatih> How can i use  Pascal programming language on Ubuntu ?
[09:50] <iceroot> desss: can you try the nvidia toll and see if it is detecting both cards? then you dont have to fight with creating an xorg.conf by hand
[09:50] <Benkinooby> hi, when i mount my pen drive, it gets recongised and mounted just fin. but i only get read permission for it. how can i change that?
[09:50] <Benkinooby> fin=fiune
[09:50] <iceroot> desss: gksudo nvidia tab tab
[09:50] <Benkinooby> fine
[09:50] <llutz_> Jigal: get the laptops manual, read it or ask in #hardware. its offtopic here
[09:50] <iceroot> desss: something like nvidia-xserver-config
[09:50] <desss> iceroot: I am using the intern Intel card now, is not that a problem? (nVidia is the extern one)
[09:50] <milamber> desss: in any text editor, for example: sudo nano xorg.conf (then add whatever you need to the file ~ lots of examples available via internets)
[09:50] <iceroot> desss: should be a problem
[09:51] <iceroot> desss: should not be a problem
[09:51] <Daghdha> Hi, i want to backup my systemdisk. SHould i just use dd?
[09:51] <desss> iceroot: nvidia-detector, nvidia-settings
[09:51] <iceroot> desss: the whole disc?
[09:51] <iceroot> desss: nvidia-settings
[09:51] <milamber> desss: and have you checked to see if the extern is linux compatible? are there drivers?
[09:51] <sedulous> Daghdha: partimage is more disk space efficient
[09:51] <iceroot> Daghdha: the whole disc?
[09:51] <Daghdha> a single partition.
[09:51] <Benkinooby> Daghdha, dd is just fine. make sure you set the right parameters to backup the MBR too
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> Daghdha: there are several cool backup tools in software centre
[09:51] <etorp> test
[09:52] <llutz_> Daghdha: backup /etc/, /home and mayb parts of /var + a list of insatlled packages. no need to image a system, easier to install new
[09:52] <desss> iceroot: yeah it shouts at me that I am not using the nVidia driver
[09:52] <babilen> desss: Could you explain to me once more what you are trying to do? Are those two cards actually an optimus one?
[09:52] <Daghdha> lotuspsychje: I think system has to be offline for proper backup no?
[09:52] <Daghdha> I'm gonna use system rescue cd
[09:52] <iceroot> Daghdha: you can use dd to backup a partiton (the image will have the same size as the whole partition)
[09:52] <Benkinooby> Daghdha, ok, forget my MBR comment sice you only want to back up one partition
[09:52] <Daghdha> sedulous: partimage is on that dis :P
[09:52] <k> salut
[09:53] <sender> lotuspsychje: do you know it's possible to have rename,delete,copy,cut commands in the right click menu, in open/save nautilus windows?
[09:53] <fatih> Can anyone help me about programming language usage on ubuntu?
[09:53] <desss> babilen: I got one intern video card (Intel) - using it now, and an extern - nVidia - both only have 1 VGA output, which seems to be the problem here, so far I only found solutions for video cards which have 2 VGA outputs
[09:53] <iceroot> fatih: what language?
[09:53] <fatih> Pascal
[09:53] <Daghdha> ok, thanks. Will reboot and start doing all that stuff
[09:53] <feng> When I use vim + ctags in ubuntu to browse kernel source code, I got a problem that if there are more than one implement, say ioremap, the vim just give the first implement, not give a list of implement .Why?
[09:54] <sedulous> feng: i think #vim is more likely to yield an answer
[09:54] <iceroot> desss: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/desktop-x-windows/139469-dual-monitor-intel-82915g-nvidia-riva-tnt2-model-64-fc6-dell-optiplex-gx520.html  here is en example how to edit the xorg.conf for dual-screen with different cards
[09:54] <babilen> desss: You mean that you have a single VGA output for both cards? (that is most likely an optimus card) -- What are you trying to do/achieve?
[09:54] <iceroot> desss: i guess you have to do the steps by hand for your setup
[09:54] <desss> babilen: to setup dual monitors
[09:54] <fatih> iceroot: Pascal language
[09:54] <iceroot> desss: ah, are you using nvidia ion?
[09:54] <Benkinooby> iceroot, ok to get that straigt. ubuntu uses xorg.conf just like any other distro too, but it doesn't create it my default, so it has the be generatey by the user
[09:55] <Benkinooby> the be = to be
[09:55] <babilen> desss: How will you connect two monitors if you only have a single VGA out? What is the output of "lspci|grep -i vga" ?
[09:55] <iceroot> Benkinooby: no, its using hal or something else instead of xorg.conf
[09:55] <babilen> iceroot: udev
[09:55] <iceroot> babilen: ok
[09:55] <desss> babilen:
[09:55] <babilen> iceroot: HAL was used in the past, but is now obsolete
[09:55] <desss> lspci | grep VGA
[09:55] <desss> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[09:55] <desss> 05:04.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro] (rev 15)
[09:55] <desss> babilen: kernel seems to see both
[09:55] <FloodBot1> desss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:55] <desss> babilen: gnome not
[09:56] <iceroot> Benkinooby: udev is doing the job instead of xorg.conf. if you create a xorg.conf the things from udev are ingored when stored in xorg.conf
[09:56] <llutz_> iceroot: which always can be overriden by personal xorg.conf or parts from in in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[09:56] <Sazhen86> fatih: install gpc, the GNU Pascal compiler
[09:56] <LNNT> necesito el canal de ubuntu en español , por favor
[09:56] <Benkinooby> iceroot, aha!
[09:56] <iceroot> llutz_: yes
[09:56] <LNNT> hola
[09:56] <sedulous> i need help with filing a bug. it affects 2 packages and i don't know which is wrong. (one package lacks a file that another assumes to be there)
[09:56] <fatih> Sazhen86: How?
[09:56] <Benkinooby> iceroot, so wouldn't it be a nicer way to do the settings in udev (if that is possible)
[09:57] <iceroot> Benkinooby: no
[09:57] <fatih> Sazhen86: sudo apt-get install gpc             like this?
[09:57] <Benkinooby> iceroot, ok
[09:57] <babilen> desss: And both of them have a single VGA out (which gives you two VGA outs in total) ?
[09:57] <milamber> !bugs | sedulous
[09:57] <Sazhen86> fatih, looks fine to me
[09:57] <iceroot> Benkinooby: creating the xorg.conf is the way "changing settings from udev"
[09:57] <desss> babilen: both have only 1 VGA output yes
[09:57] <iceroot> Benkinooby: also there is /etc/udev/rules.d/
[09:57] <Benkinooby> iceroot, ok thank you
[09:58] <Benkinooby> iceroot, makes things clearer to me :)
[09:58] <iceroot> Benkinooby: but that will be a big fight which you will lose
[09:58] <sedulous> ubottu: maybe the mailing list is the best approach? i don't feel like filing a bug when i'm not 100% sure that it's the correct package
[09:58] <sedulous> rer, milamber ^
[09:58] <iceroot> Benkinooby: so you create xorg.conf to overwrite udev-settings
[09:58] <fatih> Sazhen86: Sorry, but i cannot understand anything
[09:59] <wildbat> err any tools in ubuntu to extract *.??_  like .dl_   .CA_
[09:59] <iceroot> sedulous: creating a bug is always the best idea if you create it for the wrong package its not a problem
[09:59] <iceroot> sedulous: it will be changed to the correct package by someone
[09:59] <Sazhen86> fatih: type the command that you posted at the command line
[10:00] <sedulous> iceroot: good point. thanks.
[10:00] <milamber> sedulous: the package that expects the file should be changed. it should be a depend
[10:00] <Sazhen86> fatih, it'll ask you for your password, list  a bunch of dependencies.  You should answer Y and let it do its thing.
[10:00] <iceroot> sedulous: with what command you have a bug?
[10:00] <LNNT> ubuntu en español ¿?
[10:00] <iceroot> sedulous: or with what program?
[10:00] <sedulous> milamber: basically libopenal1 is missing a symlink: /usr/lib/libopenal.so
[10:00] <iceroot> !spain | LNNT
[10:01] <sedulous> another pacakge, "liblwjgl-java" can't find libopenal because of that
[10:01] <LNNT> gracias ubottu
[10:01] <sedulous> iceroot: ^
[10:01] <milamber> sedulous: then i would file it against liblwjgl-java because it should be a depend
[10:02] <babilen> desss: You essentially need an xorg.conf with two Device sections, or rather one each in a file ending in .conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d (assuming Ubuntu uses that too) for each intel and nvidia -- You can create an initial xorg.conf with ""X -configure :1" (if server is running) or ""X -configure" (if not) -- I would recommend the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ method as the rest of the system will be automatically configured.
[10:02] <sedulous> milamber: it does depend on libopenal1 already. debian's libopenal1 contains that file by the way
[10:02] <sedulous> (it's merely one symlink)
[10:03] <iceroot> sedulous: then the bug seems to be in libopenal1  because its not creating the symlink
[10:03] <milamber> sedulous: just read the first part of that, the file it against libopenal1 and include the patch ~ that always makes devs happy :)
[10:03] <iceroot> sedulous: but as i said its not a big problem when the bug is started with the wrong package
[10:03] <sedulous> good to know
[10:04] <vagothcpp> curious, is there any way to easily download a package and its dependencies from another terminal and then install then on an ubuntu system?
[10:04] <iceroot> sedulous: http://pastebin.com/bfitjePj
[10:04] <fatih> Sazhen86, r u there?
[10:04] <bazhang> !aptoncd | vagothcpp
[10:05] <iceroot> vagothcpp: sudo apt-get install -d packagename
[10:05] <sedulous> iceroot: that's interesting. there must be some reasoning behing that split. why would ubuntu move it to the -dev package?
[10:05] <iceroot> vagothcpp: have a look at "man apt-get" if it is not downloading dependencies
[10:06] <Shvelo> can i create a customised ubuntu livecd?
[10:06] <vagothcpp> iceroot: I ask this since i have no internet on my linux box
[10:06] <Benkinooby> hi, when plugging in a pen drive it gets auto mounted just fine, but i don't get write permission (only read). what service setting is responsivle for giving me the write permissions? i guess it has something to do with that gvfs but i am not sure
[10:06] <vagothcpp> im at an internet cafe so i need to download software remotely
[10:06] <bazhang> !remaster | Shvelo
[10:06] <Sazhen86> fatih, yep!
[10:06] <fatih> Sazhen86, it doesnt work
[10:07] <Shvelo> !LiveCD
[10:07] <fatih> The command said that gpc packet is not exist
[10:07] <Sazhen86> fatih, what happened?
[10:07] <iceroot> sedulous: http://pastebin.com/SCyj2xTM
[10:07] <Shvelo> !Alternate
[10:07] <Sazhen86> fatih, which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[10:07] <fatih> latest
[10:07] <fatih> 11.04
[10:08] <iceroot> !info gpc
[10:08] <Shvelo> !minimal
[10:08] <GoodAD> niko c'est un ircop pédophile qui abuse des négros, attention, il veut enculer blanche neigre avec ses copains les nains de jardins !
[10:08] <sedulous> iceroot: oops. and thanks. i'll just depend on -dev then. i'm happy as long as it's consistent between debian and ubuntu and i don't have to provide separate packages
[10:09] <iceroot> sedulous: great :)
[10:09] <Sazhen86> fatih, maybe it was removed from 11.04.  I'm still on 10.04 LTS
[10:10] <fatih> Then, how can i find it ?
[10:10] <fatih> Do you know a command ?
[10:11] <Sazhen86> fatih, I just looks on pkgs.org and it seems to have been removed after 10.10
[10:12] <fatih> And it means that i wont be able to use it ?
[10:12] <Daghdha> ok, backupping ;)
[10:13] <fatih>  .s
[10:13] <fatih> 05 .s
[10:13] <Daghdha> i used partimage. seems simpel
[10:13] <bhaskar00666> HI
[10:14] <Kartagis> fatih: what do you want to do?
[10:14] <Sazhen86> fatih, maybe you can find a package somewhere else.  Or you could use free pascal
[10:14] <Sazhen86> fatih, that seems to be available on 11.04
[10:14] <Shvelo> will the software centre in ubuntu 11.10 have the new look?
[10:14] <Sazhen86> fatih, sudo apt-get install fp-compiler
[10:14] <iceroot> Shvelo: #ubuntu+1
[10:14] <fatih> Kartagis, i want to learn Pascal but i cant use it
[10:15] <fatih> Sazhen86, ok i am tryin' immadiately
[10:15] <Sazhen86> fatih, good luck!  Gotta go now.
[10:15] <chenthu> guys how to remove a directory even if it has contents in it and not empty.....using this "sudo rmdir [dir name]" is not working as it says " directory not empty
[10:16] <fatih> ok thanks a lot
[10:16] <llutz_> chenthu: rm -r
[10:16] <chenthu> llutz, ok thank u :)
[10:16] <thechef> I heard xorg.conf is deprecated? Is that completely true? I still use it to configure evdev, there seems to be no other way.
[10:17] <Daghdha> fatih> ; why pascal. it is a bit dated isn't it /
[10:17] <Benkinooby> hi, when plugging in my pendrive, it gets automounted, but i don't get write permissions. when mounted the pendrive is owned by root. hwo can i change that so that i don't have to give men wrte permissions manually
[10:17] <Kartagis> I have a few problems. 1- my screen is dimmed when I start a GUI program with a dark background. 2- whenever I start up a video file
[10:18] <Syria> Hello!! can I ask something about the ultimate edition here?
[10:18] <Benkinooby> thechef, no it's not. its just not generated my default
[10:18] <fatih>  Daghdha, yes you're right but i dont know anything about programming languages.So, i have chosen it
[10:18] <Kartagis> I have a few problems. 1- my screen is dimmed when I start a GUI program with a dark background. 2- whenever I start up a video file, all I get is the first image, like there's something wrong with codecs
[10:18] <Benkinooby> thechef, usually everything is done by udev, and xorg.conf is used to over write the udev settings
[10:19] <Kartagis> sorry, I accidentally hit Enter the first time
[10:19] <llutz_> fatih: wouldn't it make more sense to start with a language with practical use?
[10:19] <Benkinooby> thechef, we had that dicussion just 10 minutes ago.... iceroot knows more about that :P
[10:19] <Kartagis> fatih: start with PHP maybe?
[10:19] <fatih> Kartagis, i didnt like it
[10:20] <Shvelo> PHP is easiest
[10:20] <fatih> but C is good for me
[10:20] <llutz_> fatih: perl, c, c++, python, java
[10:20] <Daghdha> fatih; google a bit. i think an object oriented one is probably better.
[10:20] <fatih> C
[10:20] <iceroot> thechef: now udev is doing the job but if you want to change things udev detected (or did not detect) xorg.conf is the correct way to overwrite udev things
[10:20] <fatih> Yes llutz,Kartagis, Daghdha  all you right
[10:21] <fatih> i will an electronics engineer after 4 years
[10:21] <JakeR003> hello
[10:21] <Syria> I have something to ask about Ubuntu ultimate edition.. is that possible.
[10:21] <fatih> so my real aim is learning of C
[10:21] <ikonia> Syria: sorry, no
[10:21] <iceroot> Shvelo: what is the ultimate edition?
[10:21] <iceroot> Shvelo: sorry wrong nick
[10:21] <iceroot> Syria: what is the ultimate edition?
[10:21] <JakeR003> how do i make ubuntu select a default account and ask for a password when i boot the OS? atthe login screen
[10:21] <chenthu> Hey guys i had a problem installing stunnel..... here is the error.....can u tell me what this error means ? -----------------> http://pastebin.com/Z6GZimxR
[10:21] <JakeR003> i don't want to select the account
[10:21] <Daghdha> pitty to learn antiquated concepts with a procedural language
[10:21] <fatih> But i dont know where i will start
[10:22] <iceroot> fatih: then start with c if you want to learn c
[10:22] <Syria> iceroot:  it is not an official thing. it has more themes and useless stuff.
[10:22] <thechef> iceroot, ah thanks. I was looking a very long time on how to disable mouse button emulation completely in lucid and then found the xorg setting. I did nothing wrong then.
[10:22] <Syria> ikonia:  Thnx.
[10:22] <iceroot> thechef: correct :)
[10:22] <Benkinooby> fatih, java might be a better language for beginning
[10:22] <Syria> iceroot: http://ultimateedition.info/
[10:22] <Daghdha> java or c#
[10:22] <iceroot> Syria: sorry not supported here
[10:22] <fatih> everyone says a language
[10:23] <fatih> i am confused
[10:23] <iceroot> fatih: if you want c then learn c
[10:23] <iceroot> fatih: start with c and everything is fine
[10:23] <Benkinooby> :P
[10:23] <bhaskar00666> SyriaL talking about vista window
[10:23] <fatih> ok
[10:23] <ikonia> fatih: this isn't really an ubuntu discussion - maybe take it to one of the offtopic/general channels
[10:23] <fatih> İ wondered that if i start with C
[10:24] <fatih> how can i setup it this Ubuntu ?
[10:24] <ikonia> fatih: setup what ?
[10:24] <fatih> ikonia, C programming language
[10:24] <Benkinooby> fatih, this one might be of interst for you http://www.iu.hio.no/~mark/CTutorial/CTutorial.html
[10:24] <ikonia> fatih: it's not something you setup. It's a programming language
[10:25] <Shvelo> can you tell me which theme is best for gnome? i want it to be transparent
[10:25] <iceroot> what is the common way to change the uuid of my user? after changing sudo is not working also i can not change the owner of ~  is a real root account the only way?
[10:25] <gry> fatih: well. you just need to install gcc. it is a part of some package. I forgot its name.
[10:25] <ikonia> Shvelo: there is no best, take a look at gnome-look.org and find one you like
[10:25] <Syria> iceroot:  I Have a question about ubuntu now, i want to upgrade from Meerkat 10.10 to Natty 11.04 am I gonna lose themes and personal settings that i have?
[10:25] <bhaskar00666> faith: start with c ,,,c is is the start rest are derived from it
[10:25] <Benkinooby> fatih, it's like some kind of c dicitionary ;)
[10:25] <fatih> gry, thx
[10:25] <chenthu> guys i have an account called "postgres" in my users and groups....any idea how it got created? or what it is? i never created anything by that name
[10:25] <iceroot> Syria: normally not but having a backup is a good idea
[10:25] <ikonia> iceroot: type "id" against the user you are having a problem with and paste the output
[10:25] <iceroot> Syria: also why you need to upgrade?
[10:25] <milamber> fatih: you can start with sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:25] <Shvelo> ikonia , all the themes are trash.
[10:26] <iceroot> ikonia: id is showing the new uuid
[10:26] <fatih> Benkinooby, i am looking know thx
[10:26] <iceroot> ikonia: sudo says unknown uuid
[10:26] <ikonia> Shvelo: ok, then you don't like them, so game over
[10:26] <ikonia> iceroot: can you please show me the output
[10:26] <milamber> fatih: the compiler for c is called gcc and is included in that package. you can also use the c++ compiler (g++) to compile c code
[10:26] <fatih> ikonia, i know what is C.
[10:26] <ikonia> fatih: ok - so why are you asking how to set it up
[10:26] <Syria> iceroot:  Because Natty is newer! that's all.
[10:26] <Benkinooby> fatih, you also might try to get a good c development environment that will point out typos for you and show you mistakes as you type
[10:26] <fatih> İ mean how can i practice on it
[10:26] <iceroot> ikonia: uid=1000(michael) gid=1000(michael) Gruppen=1000(michael),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),112(lpadmin),120(admin),122(sambashare)
[10:26] <ikonia> fatih: you get a tutorial and follow it
[10:26] <Shvelo> i use default theme (light)
[10:26] <iceroot> ikonia: the old uuid was 2250
[10:26] <ikonia> iceroot: how did you change the uid
[10:27] <iceroot> ikonia: directly in passwd
[10:27] <chenthu> llutz,  guys i have an account called "postgres" in my users and groups....any idea how it got created? or what it is? i never created anything by that name
[10:27] <llutz_> chenthu: its a system-account
[10:27] <fatih> milamber, how can i use gcc
[10:27] <ikonia> iceroot: ahh easy then, exit your shell and restart it
[10:27] <chenthu> llutz, oh k....so i need not meedle tih it?
[10:27] <ikonia> iceroot: your session is locked to a uid that no longer exists
[10:27] <clepto> llurz: its for the postresql database program may have been installed as a pre req to another program
[10:27] <fatih> will i use it directly ?
[10:27] <chenthu> with*
[10:27] <iceroot> ikonia: a great :)
[10:27] <Kartagis> fatih: man gcc
[10:28] <fatih> Kartagis, ok ;)
[10:28] <chenthu> llutz_ ,i had a problem installing stunnel..... here is the error.....can u tell me what this error means ? -----------------> http://pastebin.com/Z6GZimxR
[10:28] <llutz_> chenthu: no sry, no www here
[10:28] <Shvelo> chenthu , maybe it's for PostgreSQL
[10:29] <chenthu> llutz, oh ok ...thank you :)
[10:29] <chenthu> Shvelo, whats postgres sql?
[10:29] <milamber> fatih: i would recommend starting with c++, there are more current tutorials available - see cplusplus.com
[10:29] <chenthu> llutz_, oh ok ...thank you :)
[10:30] <Shvelo> chenthu , it's a database
[10:30] <fatih> i wanna start with C thanks
[10:30] <chenthu> Shvelo, data base for ?...would be needed by default?
[10:31] <Shvelo> chenthu, maybe some program uses it for data storage
[10:31] <fatih> i still cant run compiler
[10:31] <chenthu> Shvelo, ok i will gogle abt postgres...but hacn u help me with this?... -----------------> http://pastebin.com/Z6GZimxR ....i got the warning s while installing stunnel
[10:32] <ikonia> fatih: what guide are you following ?
[10:32] <Shvelo> chenthu, i'm using phone , sorry
[10:32] <chenthu> Shvelo, oh ok... :)
[10:32] <fatih> ikonia: i ve downloaded an e-book
[10:32] <ikonia> fatih: which one
[10:32] <chenthu> iceroot, i had a problem installing stunnel..... here is the error.....can u tell me what this error means ? -----------------> http://pastebin.com/Z6GZimxR
[10:32] <fatih> It's Turkish
[10:33] <ikonia> fatih: what command is the book telling you to run
[10:33] <Shvelo> chenthu, can you paste the error text?
[10:34] <Shvelo> chenthu, pm me
[10:34] <zabomber> somebody for the love of god help me run the useradd command in ubuntu that assigns the password at create?
[10:34] <zabomber> this is my script
[10:34] <fatih> ikonia: i am telling you that i don't know any language.Moreover, to apply the info i wanna use compiler
[10:34] <zabomber> read -p "Friend username:" friend
[10:34] <zabomber>         read -p "Friend email address:" friendemail
[10:34] <zabomber>         read -p "Create VPN account for user : (yes/no)" yesno
[10:34] <zabomber>         RPASS=$(makepasswd --char=6)
[10:34] <zabomber>         echo $RPASS
[10:34] <FloodBot1> zabomber: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:34] <zabomber>         egrep "^$friend" /etc/passwd >/dev/null
[10:34] <zabomber>         if [ $? -eq 0 ];  then
[10:34] <fatih> I think thats too clear
[10:35] <chenthu> Reading package lists... Done
[10:35] <chenthu> Building dependency tree
[10:35] <chenthu> Reading state information... Done
[10:35] <chenthu> The following extra packages will be installed:
[10:35] <chenthu>   stunnel4
[10:35] <zabomber> it adds the user
[10:35] <chenthu> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[10:35] <FloodBot1> chenthu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:35] <ikonia> fatih: 1.) this is not "C" or "GCC" support in this channel 2.) you need to learn how to use the compiler, follow your book
[10:35] <Benkinooby> hi, i could use some help from a permission-wizard. when plugging in my pen drive, it get's auto mounted alight, but i don'T have write access :( root is the owner of the device instead of me... i checked out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB w/o luck
[10:35] <zabomber> but i can't ssh in with that user
[10:35] <ikonia> zabomber: try #bash for your own personal script help
[10:36] <fatih> ikonia: i dont ask you how to compiler use
[10:36] <zabomber> ok
[10:36] <zabomber> ta
[10:36] <ikonia> fatih: what are you asking then
[10:36] <milamber> !permissions
[10:36] <fatih> ikonia: i am asking that how can set up compiler and use on Ubuntu 11.04
[10:36] <ikonia> fatih: have you installed the compiler ?
[10:36] <fatih> no
[10:36] <fatih> Thats the problem
[10:37] <milamber> fatih: you have already been told to start with: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:37] <ikonia> fatih: then install it, open a package manager and search for gcc, then click "install"
[10:37] <szal> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:37] <llutz_> fatih: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[10:38] <Benkinooby> fatih, do as milamber and/or ikonia say... as soon as you have all the toll i think it is best you go to the channel ##c that is for c programming.
[10:38] <Benkinooby> fatih, toll = tool
[10:39] <fatih> Benkinooby, my problem not about C, i want to set up C compiler
[10:39] <ikonia> fatih: that command will setup the compiler
[10:39] <fatih> now, i will try essentials milamber thx
[10:40] <ikonia> fatih: if you do not follow advice - your support will end.
[10:40] <Benkinooby> fatih, i that case use "sudo apt-get install build-essential" as some suggested before. that will provide you all you need for compiling
[10:40] <Daghdha> Can i have a resolution in ubuntu that's not supported by my monitor? My monitor is 1920x1080. But i want ubuntu to be e.g. 1910x980
[10:41] <Benkinooby> hi, i could use some help from a permission-wizard. when plugging in my pen drive, it get's auto mounted alight, but i don'T have write access :( root is the owner of the device instead of me... i checked out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB w/o luck
[10:41] <fatih> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:42] <llutz_> Benkinooby: create a udev-rule to change ownership
[10:42] <ikonia> fatih: you have more than one package manager open
[10:42] <fatih> Terminal said that "Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[10:42] <szal> fatih: close Synaptic or Software Center or whatever you were using first
[10:42] <Benkinooby> FatherJack, you might have a package tool like synaptic ore something open
[10:42] <ikonia> fatih: close the other package manager
[10:42] <Kartagis> fatih: if you have synaptics open, close it
[10:43] <Kartagis> I have a few problems. 1- my screen is dimmed when I start a GUI program with a dark background. 2- whenever I start up a video file, all I get is the first image, like there's something wrong with codecs
[10:43] <fatih> build-essential is already the newest version.
[10:43] <fatih> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.
[10:43] <milamber> Kartagis: that usually means the hardware is busy and what media player are you using?
[10:44] <llutz_> Benkinooby: like: SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="0abc", ATTRS{idProduct} =="0xyz", OWNER="youruser", GROUP="yourgroup" , then " sudo udevadm control --reload-rules"
[10:44] <szal> fatih: in other words, compiler and all it needs is installed
[10:44] <Kartagis> milamber: totem
[10:44] <milamber> fatih: then you have gcc available to you. that is the compiler, now you have to find a c and/or c++ tutorial on the web
[10:44] <milamber> fatih: programming support in #programming
[10:44] <Kartagis> milamber: I haven't a problem with vls but why does totem do that?
[10:45] <milamber> Kartagis: it probably is codecs, fwiw the only media player i use is vlc, it runs everything i throw at it
[10:45] <Kartagis> milamber: I haven't that problem on my installtion at work
[10:45] <fatih> milamber, i wrote gcc and it gave me "gcc: no input files"
[10:45] <ikonia> fatih: that is not how you use the compiler
[10:45] <Kartagis> installatipn*
[10:45] <Benkinooby> llutz_, i am just reading http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html but that a bit overwhelming... do i have to enter your caommnd just like that to the command line?
[10:45] <Kartagis> installatiom*
[10:45] <ikonia> fatih: follow the guide/book you're using, we do not teach you how to use it in this channel
[10:45] <Kartagis> argh
[10:45] <carl-eric> Hi - how can I have a gnome launcher on a removable drive? I'd like to have an icon show up when a removable drive is mounted (aim is to give Mom a one-click backup once she connects her external harddrive)
[10:45] <fatih> ok
[10:46] <milamber> fatih: the syntax is: gcc <yourfile.c> -o <yourexecutablename>, but as i said, find a tutorial on the internets - there are many available
[10:46] <llutz_> Benkinooby: nope, that is just an example for a file you put into /etc/udev/rules.d
[10:46] <fatih> thanks milamber
[10:46] <fatih> i try the book again now.
[10:46] <fatih> Thanks all u ;)
[10:46] <JakeR003> llutz is there a way to ask ubuntu to choose a user name at the login screen without click on it?
[10:46] <Kartagis> fatih: gcc thefile.c
[10:47] <Benkinooby> llutz_, hm... i wonder who i could ever have messed up my udev rules
[10:47] <llutz_> JakeR003: ask the channel, idk
[10:47] <Kartagis> JakeR003: on mac os, I just click the first letter, then hit enter
[10:47] <Kartagis> JakeR003: ubuntu might do that too
[10:48] <Soothsayer> could someone recommend a clipboard manager?
[10:48] <Soothsayer> something that just works with ease.
[10:49] <Kartagis> Soothsayer: what's wrong with ubuntu's?
[10:49] <Benkinooby> llutz_, if your automount is working fine and you et write permission you paste me "ls /etc/udev/rules.d" and "cat /etc/udev/rules.d/*"?
[10:49] <mtfk> hi, I looking package kutils for 10.04
[10:50] <maalac> need help here. Need to check if my ubuntu 10.10 is compromise . what are the things i need to do to check it ou?
[10:50] <ikonia> maalac: why do you think it is ?
[10:50] <Soothsayer> Kartagis, does it have one? I'm talking about maintaining an history of my clipboard
[10:51] <mtfk> any one know why kutils is not in 10.04 main repository?
[10:51] <maalac> ikonia:i'm not sure ..sometimes it just went slow ..
[10:51] <ikonia> maalac: that's no reason to think it's compromised, that's just random assumption
[10:52] <maalac>  ikonia: hmm. ok ..how do i check when my laptop when slow for some reason ?
[10:52] <ikonia> maalac: well, when it slows down, look at the cpu and memory utilisation, look at what processes are using the resources up
[10:52] <llutz_> Benkinooby: there are no mount-related rules by default in
[10:52] <milamber> !info libkutils4 lucid
[10:53] <milamber> mtfk: interesting, are you talking about the dell/latitude kutils?
[10:54] <mtfk> mainrain: I need libkemoticons.so
[10:54] <mtfk> in maveric this lib is in kutils package
[10:54] <Benkinooby> llutz_, on a fresh install usually writing on a mounted pen drive is possible... so i have changed something... but i never messed around with udev/ruels.d (directly) once i was on a "everything must be minimal"-trip and removed some services... might be that i am lacking one that fixes the permissions?
[10:54] <mtfk> but in 10.04 there is no any package with this lib
[10:55] <mtfk> milamber: sorry not kutils but in kdelibs5
[10:55] <Benkinooby> llutz_, is there a service that is responsible for fixing permissions?
[10:55] <mtfk> but in 10.04 there is no this lib and I try find it out
[10:56] <llutz_> Benkinooby: i dont know
[10:56] <Benkinooby> :(
[10:57] <Benkinooby> i am really reluctant to edit rules.d when i am sure i didn't touch it
[10:58] <milamber> !info kdelibs5 lucid
[10:58] <Benkinooby> llutz, can you paste me the output of your  "ps -A | grep gvfs" - i am assuming that you can write on automounted pendirves
[10:58] <mtfk> milamber: but in this package there is no libkemoticons.so
[10:59] <llutz_> Benkinooby: mind if i pm you? i don't have www for pastebin
[10:59] <Benkinooby> llutz_, yeah, never mind
[10:59] <Benkinooby> llutz, why are ppl so serious about pm?
[11:00] <llutz_> Benkinooby: idk, i usually refuse PMs ;)
[11:00] <Benkinooby> llutz_, why?
[11:00] <Benkinooby> llutz_, btw, i have the exact same result
[11:01] <voxcroix> ubuntu 11.04 or fedora 15
[11:01] <llutz_> Benkinooby: i give public support but not personal, so  no need to handle all those queries
[11:01] <Benkinooby> llutz_, also you might have use for "pastebinit" it is in the reps and pastes textfiles to pastebin.com for you
[11:01] <Benkinooby> llutz_, ah, ok
[11:02] <llutz_> Benkinooby: i have pastebinit but no access to anything except my irc right now :)
[11:02] <Benkinooby> llutz_, ok
[11:02] <Benkinooby> funny setup
[11:03] <Benkinooby> llutz, can you paste me "ps -A | grep gnome"
[11:05] <jonkristian> When i test my hdmi audio aplay -D plughw:0,3 etc.... I get only static noise, is this a driver issue? Im using ati 5450 card.
[11:07] <Daghdha> Is it possible to update mono beyound what version is in the package manager?
[11:08] <Daghdha> i use 10.x ubuntu not 11.x
[11:09] <Daghdha> Or is it coz 2.6.7 is long term support? Hmm i see.. i think i know enough. Thank you :)
[11:09] <ross_> can someone recommend software that monitors my laptop's temp?
[11:10] <ikonia> ross lmsensors
[11:10] <Ramses> madlib is being used for MP3 decode in ubuntu?
[11:10] <ross_> ah looking it up now
[11:11] <ikonia> ross_: front ends such as conky (one example) are good real time monitors in terms of visually watching it, that works with lmsensors
[11:12] <ross_> I'm going to see if sp manager has it
[11:12] <Charmander> hello,  just got my LiveCd Ubuntu Lucid i386 to look a bit better. Can anyone tell me how to save my updated font configuration (as in find the config file). I'm already sftp'd to another box. tx
[11:13] <ross_> Oh according to this I've already got it installed, I can't seem to find a place to open it though ?;
[11:13] <ikonia> Charmander: you can't save it, it's a livecd
[11:14] <Daghdha> i think he wants to save i on another machine he sftp'd too
[11:16] <Charmander> yes , I want to copy it to the home directory of the other box, then use it as a reference. I don't have a persistent setup , was experimenting with it
[11:17] <ross_> I've install lm senors and the applet but it says "no sensors enabled"
[11:17] <ikonia> ross_: you have to configure it
[11:17] <ross_> does that mean my computer doesn't support such software
[11:18] <ross_> Where do I do I this?
[11:18] <ikonia> ross_: I'd have a little read up on how to use it
[11:18] <ikonia> it's not as simple as just clck "enable"
[11:18] <ross_> damn...
[11:18] <ross_> ok, I'll try to understand
[11:19] <Daghdha> there's packages for it i had it enabled a while in the 'taskbar'
[11:19] <ross_> oh god!
[11:20] <wildc4rd> afternoon al
[11:20] <Sidewinder1> ross_, You may also have to enable from within the BIOS, when you boot.
[11:21] <ross_> There's no way I can do this alongside with my limited tech knownlegde I have a limited control inthe BIOS it's an acer
[11:22] <ross_> Is there any other software to cool down my laptop, like speedfan for windows,
[11:23] <gry> ross_, use hardware
[11:23] <ross_> but it's only 5 days old :(
[11:23] <ross_> 50 idling and 70ish when using programs
[11:25] <UncleLaz> ross_: probably you'll have to buy a cooling pad for your laptop
[11:26] <d3s3rtdw3ll3r> ross_. is that CPU usage?
[11:26] <ross_> Are those things even affective
[11:26] <ross_> No it's temp of the cores
[11:26] <ross_> using realtemp
[11:26] <Saalko> !german
[11:27] <staatsfeindin> How can i register my nickname on freenode?
[11:27] <ross_>  /msg nickserv register <passworf> <email>
[11:27] <szal> !register | staatsfeindin
[11:28] <szal> ross_: passworf?  an access control Klingon? :D
[11:28] <ross_> ;)
[11:29] <ross_> What temps does everyones laptops hit?
[11:29]  * szal doesn't have a laptop
[11:30] <ross_> tthis is the first time in a while that  I have a laptop
[11:30] <staatsfeindin> ross's answer helped :D
[11:31] <ross_> :) I love helping people
[11:32] <staatsfeindin> Are there any popular chats in irc?
[11:32] <staatsfeindin> wich are not about pc's and such?
[11:33] <gry> Plenty.
[11:33] <staatsfeindin> Gimme some :P
[11:33] <gry> #ubuntu-offtopic for one
[11:33] <Sidewinder1> staatsfeindin, Tru #ubuntu-offtopic.
[11:34] <Sidewinder1> Beat me :-)
[11:34] <gry> I had to cheat and avoid the proper punctuation. :-( ;-)
[11:35] <tabakhase> can i chainload groub infront of / after truecrypt bootloader?
[11:39] <AMD> can i use photoshop on ubuntu?
[11:39] <bazhang> !appdb | AMD check here
[11:40] <d3s3rtdw3ll3r> AMD use GIMP
[11:40] <bazhang> AMD, /join #winehq for help with that
[11:40] <AMD> bazhang: thanks
[11:42] <AMD> can i download any advanced video editor like adobe Premier Pro or edius?
[11:43] <dr_willis> Ive not kept up on video editors for linux, theres been some new ones out this year i recall. No idea how advanced they were.
[11:43] <dr_willis> not sure what 'advanced' even means in this ussage. :)
[11:43] <auronandace> AMD: try openshot
[11:44] <Kartagis> I don't know if someone has replied to me, but I got disconnected and had to switch IRC clients
[11:44] <auronandace> !info openshot | AMD
[11:44] <Gentoo64> i dont really use them but i know of pitivi and avidemux
[11:45] <AMD>  how can i download that?
[11:45] <annkas> is there an issue regarding wpa password in wireless ubuntu?
[11:45] <Kartagis> so, my problems are 1- ubuntu dims the display everytime I start a GUI program with dare background, like terminal
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> annkas: i had issue with that
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> annkas: did you try WEP?
[11:45] <Kartagis> 2- I don't get visual when viewing a video file with totem
[11:45] <annkas> is there an issue regarding wpa password in wireless ubuntu?.-(
[11:46] <annkas> lotuspsychje, am not able to log in to the router
[11:46] <auronandace> !packages | AMD
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> annkas: what wifi card you have?
[11:47] <Heroin> Can anyone help me; i am looking for software which will allow me to share my media files across the network, but i would prefer to avoid streaming. I am currently thinking of a Online File Explorer which will allow you to download the media files so a user can watch it on their own computer
[11:48] <Charmander> ok , I'm gonna try sbackup, and (hopefully) backup the livecd changes to try and get around the problem:               just got my LiveCd Ubuntu Lucid i386 to look a bit better. Can anyone tell me how to save my updated font configuration (as in find the config file). I'm already sftp'd to another box
[11:51] <annkas> lotuspsychje, am not able to log in to the router:-)
[11:51] <dr_willis> Heroin,  it all depends on what devices  are accessing the files.. and how they can play them.
[11:51] <annkas> lotuspsychje, found the password for the router
[11:52] <dr_willis> Heroin,  samba and a videos  'share' directory works very well for our home lan. If  you can get the shares/pcs all seeing the shares..
[11:52] <Heroin> dr_willis, from my network server to their desktops :) which will be mostly apples and windows laptops w. VLC i bet
[11:52] <dr_willis> Heroin,  other apps on a pc such as xbmc, and boxee, can access shares, or a upnp server.  and have a lot more 'features' then vlc.    it depends on your needs.
[11:53] <Heroin> dr_willis, i am afraid 10 people will start streaming and ddosing the server
[11:53] <dr_willis> Heroin,   most all those play the files from the server. but thats technically not 'streaming' in my book.
[11:53] <dr_willis> depends on your network.
[11:53] <d3s3rtdw3ll3r> Heroin. Setup a podcast server
[11:54] <Heroin> d3s3rtdw3ll3r, urm never really thought about that
[11:54] <Kartagis> I am using Lucid, and don't get a notification that natty is waiting. how can I ping the repos so that I get the notification?
[11:55] <dr_willis> I have to wonder how a podcast server, would differ from any other upnp server. I got a mixed set of videos/players/pcs here.. seeral laptops. androids, roku, boxee, tvs that do upnp. :) and a boxee.
[11:55] <ikonia> Kartagis: lucid is an LTS release, natty isn't thats why you've not been notified
[11:56] <cypha> hey dr_willis
[11:56] <dr_willis> Normally its the players i have more issues with then the video servers...
[11:56] <dr_willis> Howdy cypha
[11:56] <Kartagis> okay, thanks ikonia
[11:56] <cypha> how goes it?
[11:56] <cypha> why r u awake?
[11:56] <Kartagis> ikonia, can you help me with my problem? ubuntu dims the display everytime I start a GUI program with dare background, like terminal
[11:56] <Kartagis> dark*
[11:57] <dr_willis> Im on sick leave.. going back to work tonight. :)  3rd shift..
[11:57] <dr_willis> cypha,  been on leave for 2 weeks now.
[11:57] <cypha> oh wow
[11:57] <cypha> hopefully everything's ok?
[11:58] <d3s3rtdw3ll3r> Kartagis. are you not being prompted for elevated access?
[11:58] <Kartagis> d3s3rtdw3ll3r, elevated access? oh, it's not like sudo
[11:59] <dr_willis> Heroin,  i saw this the other day in the blogs a  new video-home-server setup (not tried it yet) -> http://www.amahi.org/
[11:59] <Heroin> dr_willis, thanks i will give it a look
[11:59] <Benkinooby> hi, when automounting a pendrive, root gets the ownership, denying me write access. to make sure it's not cause by my user settings, i created a new user, but got the same result. i use ubunut 10.04 How can I get (automatically) write permissions on a pen drive?
[12:01] <dr_willis> Heroin,  ive not even looked at it closely. seems its in beta, a server, that runs on fedora only. :(   (checking the specs now) but it does support those 'plug' computer/players that ive seen.
[12:01] <dr_willis> Heroin,  perhaps they will get ubuntu support someday soon. :(
[12:01] <AMD> Where i Can found the E-books about the Ubuntu tips and traps?
[12:01] <Heroin> dr_willis, yah it still looks a bit too young for my needs. Currently i am thinking of a setting up apache with an online file explorer
[12:02] <staatsfeindin> Is in ubuntu a possibility like "Strg + alt + entf" To quit programms wich do not respond?!..
[12:03] <dr_willis> Heroin,  that mediatomb i think had options to 'download' or 'play/stream'  but i dident use it much.
[12:03] <AMD> staatsfeindin: use alt +f4
[12:04] <Sidewinder1> Benkinooby, You may want to have a look at the chown command.
[12:04] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:05] <Benkinooby> Sidewinder1, but will it be persistent or do i have to run it every thime i connect?
[12:05] <Sidewinder1> Benkinooby, If done properly, it will persist.
[12:05] <d3s3rtdw3ll3r> Anyone have a config to display battery status in Conky?
[12:06] <Sidewinder1> Benkinooby, You must prefix it with sudo.
[12:06] <Benkinooby> Sidewinder1, ofc :)
[12:07] <staatsfeindin> lol? @ amd
[12:08] <staatsfeindin> that will quit the programm iam running
[12:08] <staatsfeindin> but not the programm wich doesnt react..
[12:08] <Sidewinder1> Benkinooby, Something to the effect of sudo chown -R Benk...:Benk... Pendrive UUID.
[12:09] <Benkinooby> Sidewinder1, can i appy chown on devices like my pendrive? man pages only talks about files (I know, everthing i a file in linux) but i am not sure if automount will always mount to the same pace.. and waht about using more than one drive
[12:09] <allu2> Hey what program is used to encrypt /home on ubuntu?
[12:09] <Sidewinder1> Benkinooby, Where Benk... is your username on the system.
[12:09] <gry> !encrypt | allu2, maybe this? see
[12:09] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  you normally do it to filesystems or files   what you are describing.
[12:10] <Gentoo64> staatsfeindin, whats the program called thats not responding
[12:10] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  what is the filesystem of the device? and what are you trying to do exactly?
[12:10] <Sidewinder1> Benkinooby, I have 5 ext HDs and chowned each and everyone that way. :-)
[12:10] <Sidewinder1> All 5 are ext3.
[12:10] <d3s3rtdw3ll3r> Benkinooby, what dr_willis asked may be key to your prob
[12:11] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, this is my problem description:  hi, when automounting a pendrive, root gets the ownership, denying me write access. to make sure it's not cause by my user settings, i created a new user, but got the same result. i use ubunut 10.04 How can I get (automatically) write permissions on a pen drive?
[12:11] <Hitme> I have a problem
[12:11] <simion314> hi, i have on my PC 2 mic inputs, but not Mic is listed in pavucontrol
[12:11] <staatsfeindin> @ gentoo64.. at the moment noone but that happened to me on firefox and xchat .. lately..
[12:11] <Gentoo64> staatsfeindin, try sudo killall firefox
[12:11] <Gentoo64> if it happens
[12:12] <spanther> Hello there :) I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 32bit with all Patches installed. My system has AMD HD6870 1GB Graphics, 4GB DDR3 Ram 1333mhz and Phenom2 x4 945 @3GHz CPU. I've installed the proprietary ATI drivers and they worked fine. But there was one problem, the whole time when I moved windows or played movies, it was like "very little fps". It lagged sort of. Then I logged in again with "Ubuntu Classic (no effects)" and now everything is very s
[12:12] <spanther> mooth. I thought maybe somebody wants to know about this issue or knows more about it? :)
[12:12] <Benkinooby> d3s3rtdw3ll3r, Sidewinder1 dr_willis i want to be able to write on automounted pendrives. atm a automounted pendrives is owned by root and read only for me
[12:12] <Hitme> why my update manager keeps having partial upgrade and distribution upgrade even after i run it?
[12:13] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  its all depends on what filesystem is on the pendrive.. you do not just chown/chmod NTFS/Vfat stff.
[12:13] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  but you CAN mount them with differnt options to allow users full access.
[12:13]  * Sidewinder1 That's why I mentioned that my HDs were all ext3. :-)
[12:13] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  and the reverse.. you DONT use mount options on ext2/3/4   , but you chown/chmod those as needed.. :)
[12:13] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  so.... what filesystem is the pendrives :)
[12:14] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, /dev/sdb1   *           1        1022     3928537    b  W95 FAT32
[12:14] <dr_willis> Unless theres been some improvements.. im still pretty sure you cant chown/chmod ntfs/vfat ;)
[12:14] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  so you use the proper mounting options..
[12:14] <staatsfeindin> allright will remember that @ gentoo64
[12:14] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  used to be the tool 'ntfs-config' could tweak the settings.. but im not sure how well it works any more.
[12:15] <Sidewinder1> Benkinooby, Ah, fat32; please disregard my advice, it was wrong; thought it was ext*, sorry.
[12:15] <spanther> Will Ubuntu Classic Mode stay available with later releases too? :)
[12:15] <AMD> can i download safari web broser for ubuntu 10.10?
[12:15] <jrib> spanther: no
[12:15] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, Sidewinder1 what buggs me most, is that on a default ubunut this should be no issue at all.. i really don't know what i changed :(
[12:15] <bazhang> amd no
[12:15] <spanther> jrib, why not :(
[12:15] <Gentoo64> spanther, i think the next one iwll be gnome 3
[12:16] <Benkinooby> Sidewinder1, never mind, thank you (- didn't know that this is fs dependet)
[12:16] <Gentoo64> there sohuld be fallback mode for gnome 3
[12:16] <Hitme> available on ppa
[12:16] <Hitme> classic is available on ppa
[12:16] <d3s3rtdw3ll3r>  Benkinooby. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[12:16] <Hitme> but its called gnome-fallback btw
[12:17] <AMD> can i download gom player for ubuntu?
[12:17] <Sidewinder1> Benkinooby, No problem, sorry I initially misunderstood your problem, but dr_willis is much better with mount options of non-ext* filesystems than I.
[12:17] <bazhang> AMD, what is gom player
[12:17] <Gentoo64> a media player
[12:17] <Gentoo64> AMD, theres tons of othe rmedia players
[12:17] <Gentoo64> and browsers
[12:17] <robin0800> spanther, don't think so perhaps only gnome shell
[12:18]  * szal gets the impression that AMD rather wants Mac OS X
[12:18] <bazhang> AMD, why would you possibly need it. there is mplayer
[12:18] <AMD> its a media player.....
[12:18] <MrFireBit> hi
[12:18] <Hitme> VLC is the best
[12:18] <Gentoo64> ..
[12:18] <Hitme> it has everything
[12:18] <Benkinooby> d3s3rtdw3ll3r, i don't think that is for pendirves... i rad a ubuntu site about mounting pendirves too, but it didn't help me
[12:18] <bazhang> AMD, its completely unneeded
[12:18] <spanther> Gentoo64, but Unity was lagging heavily here. The classic mode doesn't and I don't know the reason why. The ATI/AMD driver can't be the reason because at gnome (ubuntu classic) it runs smooth :/
[12:18] <dr_willis> between vlc, mplayer, and  the default totem.. :) i rarely see any that have features i need...
[12:18] <Ramses> I preffer my own media player
[12:18] <gry> AMD:  https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/GOM_Player is Windows only; use another linux player
[12:18] <MrFireBit> what program converter wma for mp3?
[12:18] <dr_willis> Theres boxee, and xbmc  for the  hard-core couch potatoe types./ :)
[12:18] <gry> !player | AMD, like these
[12:19] <gry> MrFireBit: ffmpeg ?
[12:19] <Ramses> mrfirebird try ffmpeg
[12:19] <Benkinooby> d3s3rtdw3ll3r, this it the one i read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[12:19] <MrFireBit> thanks, have a nice day, bye
[12:20] <Ramses> mrfirebird the quality of your mp3 will be very low]
[12:20] <Sidewinder1> MrFireBit, And if you prefer GUI for ffmpeg there's winff.
[12:20] <Sidewinder1> Oops, not quick enough, he left. :-(
[12:20] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, i read this and followed it w/o success https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[12:22] <nmvictor> Hey guys am pleading for some knowledge which is not drirectly related to ubuntu, anyone willing to help is free 2 pm me. I have this Huawei Broadband USB modem. I dont know where to place it.Is it ADSL modems that support PPPoE emulation
[12:22] <ccmonster> ok, so my video settings are ALL wacked out
[12:23] <ikonia> nmvictor: please keep your non ubuntu questions out of the channel
[12:23] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  i normally just make a fstab entry that does what i need.. or half the time i install/run ntfs-config and checkthe right check box's and  the ntfs/vfat then get mounted with the right options
[12:23] <spanther> okay I'll change to xfce in future then :P
[12:24] <ccmonster> out of the box, 11.04 was fine, then I installed compiz and the ati catalyst driver, now unity side bar doesnt show, and top panel neither. Also, if i go to settings and click on the catalyst control center, it just errors out.
[12:24] <Gentoo64> spanther, thats a good choice it looks nice
[12:24] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  that guide gives likje 4 differnt ways to do things... so you may want to give the channel a bit more detail :)
[12:24] <spanther> Gentoo64, hehe I love minimalistic gui's x)
[12:24] <ccmonster> i did a unity --reset and I get an I/O error about a compiz setting.
[12:24] <Gentoo64> :)
[12:24] <nmvictor> ikonia: Actually i purdoned myself before posting the question and matter of fact, I am using the modem in ubuntu.
[12:25] <ccmonster> rather, if i do unity, the I/O error is what I see. Unity reset does nothing
[12:25] <robin0800> nmvictor, under mobile connections in network manager
[12:25] <Hitme> Unity sucks for 11.04
[12:25] <ikonia> nmvictor: yes, I understand that, however pardoning yourself doesn't mean you can ask, please keep the non-ubuntu stuff out of the channel
[12:25] <Hitme> but far better in 11.10
[12:25] <dr_willis> io error - normally implies a filesystem issue, or hard drive issue from my experience.
[12:25] <gry> Hitme, for you it does
[12:26] <ccmonster> the drive is fine.
[12:26] <spanther> Gentoo64, but I would have preferred Gnome if it would stay likt it was (dark, 2 panels, logical splitted 3 parts menu) :(
[12:26] <gry> Hitme, is there something suport-related that you have to say
[12:26] <Random832> ccmonster: what do you have in dmesg related to the i/o error
[12:26] <nmvictor> ikonia: I got you, give me a break now and that's rude of you
[12:26] <dr_willis> ccmonster,   check 'dmesg' output and see if anything is mentioned..  ive seen 'the drive is fine'  said in here many a time... then the hd burst into flames.....
[12:26] <ikonia> nmvictor: it's not rude, I'm just informing you of the channels rules.
[12:26] <ccmonster> it also will give me a 'Segmentation Fault' if i do Unity now
[12:27] <Hitme> yes
[12:27] <Random832> lol i had a drive that had huge chunks of it bad, and it was relatively stable [i wasn't using it for anything important though needless to say]
[12:27] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, i did the section"automounting" and all ist subsections... i did not follow manually mounting or any other of the following sections... i read some parts of the troubleshooting (namely 5.6 and 5.7) but it was of no use either
[12:27] <spanther> brb switching x)
[12:27] <Hitme> 11.04 is mostly broken
[12:27] <Random832> ultimately the head crashed when i had a power failure at exactly the wrong moment
[12:27] <bazhang> Hitme, thats enough
[12:27] <AMD> assalamu alaikum
[12:27] <Hitme> go back to 10.10 or to 11.10
[12:27] <spanther> Hitme, log out and pick "Ubuntu Classic Mode (no effects)" will do well ^^
[12:27] <bazhang> Hitme, thats not a support question.
[12:28] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  when in doubt.. fall back to the basics.. and mount them by hand so you understand how mounting works.. then make a fstab entry.    the 'users,noauto' option maybe of use if the pendrive is not in all the time.
[12:29] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, will that work for different users and pendrives as well?
[12:30] <ccmonster> Only unity error im seeing is : unity_support_t[2875]: segfault at 4 ip 00587824 sp bf98fc80 error 4 in libGL.so.1.2[50e000+c9000]
[12:31] <arvut> Hi.. if I have a 10.04 install and winxp install, and reinstall xp (which overrides the mbr with the winloader) and then install open artist (10.04 edition as I assume that's still a supported project), on a new partition. Will that then fix grub for me? or must I do it manually with livecd/dvd/usb to fix-grub?
[12:32] <ccmonster> i dont see any hd issues
[12:32] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, ok, let me try and report back
[12:32] <yeats> !derivatives | arvut
[12:32] <BluesKaj> .
[12:33] <ccmonster> alright, everytime i try to start unity dmesg shows something along the lines of : [  856.197808] compiz[3832]: segfault at 4 ip 00c4d824 sp bfaf2960 error 4 in libGL.so.1.2[bd4000+c9000]
[12:33] <ccmonster> [ 1362.506957] compiz[4576]: segfault at 4 ip 02265824 sp bfe0e330 error 4 in libGL.so.1.2[21ec000+c9000]
[12:33] <ccmonster> [ 1726.818478] compiz[4635]: segfault at 4 ip 02521824 sp bf96b520 error 4 in libGL.so.1.2[24a8000+c9000]
[12:33] <Random832> anything before that?
[12:33] <lcneon_> hoi hoi
[12:34] <Random832> also, pastebin
[12:34] <ccmonster> talking to me Random832
[12:34] <ccmonster> ?
[12:34] <Random832> not looking for unity errors - anything about I/O in general, like, hard drive reset stuff
[12:34] <ccmonster> can i grep dmesg?
[12:35] <Random832> "I/O error" doesn't just happen randomly
[12:35] <Random832> dmesg | grep whatever, but i forget what the message i'm thinking of looks like
[12:35] <Random832> sorry
[12:35] <ccmonster> the thing is, the i/o error doesn't look like an actual hard drive error, the error refers specifically to a compiz file
[12:36] <ccmonster> as if something is incorrectly configured, and then it just doesn't start correctly.
[12:36] <Random832> that means the error happened when it was trying to read that file
[12:36] <Random832> maybe
[12:36] <Random832> i don't know - it's too early in the morning
[12:36] <ccmonster> lol
[12:36] <ccmonster> is there another way to fully reset unity other than unity --reset?
[12:36] <ccmonster> because that does nothing.
[12:36] <Random832> "I/O error" is a BIG red flag - 90% of the time it means a hard drive failure or hard drive controller failure in my experience
[12:36] <Random832> dunno, never used unity
[12:36] <coz_> ccmonster,  you could simply restart x
[12:37] <Random832> i don't actually use ubuntu at the moment, i'm just here to give support on general linux stuff
[12:37] <ccmonster> what will that do to unity?
[12:37] <Random832> restart it
[12:37] <coz_> ccmonster, that will restart it
[12:37] <ccmonster> ok, im in classic mode at the moment
[12:37] <coz_> ccmonster,   ctrl+alt+F1  log in    then sudo  restart gdm
[12:39] <bazhang> !google | me
[12:39] <g0t> Results for | me on Google:
[12:39] <g0t> --
[12:40] <ccmonster2> ok..
[12:40] <ccmonster2> so i restarted, no dice on the unity
[12:40] <hamid11771> hi all
[12:40] <ikonia> g0t: are you active ?
[12:40] <ccmonster2> im in standard mode, but no panels
[12:40] <coz_> ccmonster2,  so you restarted back onto classic mode or did you change the sesssion to Ubuntu  Unity
[12:40] <hamid11771> is there any special server version for embeded systems ?
[12:40] <ccmonster2> unity
[12:41] <hamid11771> (ARM i mean)
[12:41] <ccmonster2> because I also want the specific error i saw
[12:41] <coz_> ccmonster2,   do you have the launcher on the left side..yes?
[12:41] <coz_> !who
[12:41] <ccmonster2> no, no side panel
[12:41] <arvut> yeats: open artist is a ubuntubased distro, so I just want to know if installing another ubuntu based distro would repair grub (as I assume it would do what ubuntu does when you install it side by side with windows, install grub2 and include the other OS(s) in the bootmenu.
[12:41] <ccmonster2> no app bar or w/e it's called
[12:41] <ccmonster2> nothing on top, nothing on the side
[12:41] <coz_> ccmonster2,   can you open a terminal
[12:41] <arvut> does grub have an irc?
[12:42] <coz_> ccmonster2,  lspci | grep -i vga
[12:42] <coz_> arvut,   yes   #grub
[12:42] <Gentoo64> arvut, no harm in trying to join
[12:42] <coz_> arvut,  if you  dont know how to switch channels,, where you type here  , type  /join #grub
[12:43] <hamid11771> @hamid11771 :D
[12:43] <arvut> coz_: /j works just fine, just thought I might ask, as they sometimes have different names than you would guess.
[12:44] <coz_> arvut,  I k now :)
[12:45] <ccmonsters> mmkay lol
[12:45] <ccmonsters> I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/home/brian/.compiz/session/10c75891a892b601ce131332553752044000000054290000"
[12:45] <ccmonsters> that's the error i see
[12:46] <coz_> ccmonsters,   that's odd
[12:47] <ccmonsters> yea,
[12:47] <ccmonsters> then if i do unity --reset , now i get an odd error
[12:47] <dr_willis> now would be a good time to make sure you have proper backups...
[12:48] <yeats> ccmonsters: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/344053
[12:48] <ccmonsters> http://pastie.org/2370322
[12:48] <dr_willis> resetting compiz. is difernt then resetting unity also..
[12:48] <aparna_> i have a problem booting ubuntu 11.04 beta....it doesnt show in d boot menu alongside windows xp
[12:48] <gry> aparna_: Why beta?
[12:48] <aparna_> does anyone know any solution
[12:48] <ccmonsters> what's this yeats ?
[12:48] <yeats> ccmonsters: thought it's marked "invalid", there are some potentially useful comments
[12:48] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB#Manually%20Mounting wich will provide me with write access. few paragraphs later the say:"There is a program called pmount available in the repositories which allows unprivileged users to mount drives as if they were using sudo, even without an entry in /etc/fstab." Following the link of /etc/fstab to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab it seems that fstab is pretty stati
[12:48] <Benkinooby> c and not the best choice for pen drives (changing devices and UUIDs, changing file systems, different numbers of pen drives) or did i missunderstand something?
[12:49] <coz_> aparna_,  11.04  or 11.10?
[12:49] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  i mount mine based on the label that i set for each pendrive.
[12:49] <aparna_> hmmm 11.04
[12:49] <coz_> aparna_,  if it is 11.04  beta  stop using that and get the released version...if it is 11.10  then  go to #ubuntu+1 channel :)
[12:49] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  did you try the simple way of just running 'ntfs-config' and checking the 'allow users access to ntfs/vfat' ?
[12:49] <aparna_> ok...nywys i downloaded 2 days bk
[12:49] <lobezno> hi there! how to add an generic txt only printer on ubuntu?
[12:50] <aparna_> let me confirm if its 11.04
[12:50] <dr_willis> ccmonsters,   to reset compiz ---> gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1
[12:50] <coz_> aparna_,   in terminal  lsb_release -a
[12:50] <aparna_> it is 11.04
[12:51] <ccmonsters> ok, so just put that in the cl?
[12:51] <coz_> aparna_,  then there lies the problem,, get the release of 11.04
[12:51] <dr_willis> ccmonsters,  if you want to reset Compiz back to defaults.. yes..
[12:51] <aparna_> wat problem?
[12:51] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, will do now... sorry, but today i am not the fastest & most effective... sorry for being so troublesome to support :P
[12:51] <coz_> aparna_,  didnt you say you had issues with booting the beta?
[12:51] <aparna_> i am sure there should be some solution to boot it up
[12:51] <aparna_> yes
[12:52] <coz_> aparna_,   well if you are using the "beta" version of 11.04  it is bound to be somewhat buggy
[12:52] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  how linux mounts things. is one of those 'core' concepts that its worth just learning how its done from the lowest levels up..  I never use pmount. Ive learned how to do things by hand when i want stuff done. :)
[12:52] <aparna_> haha...i expect it to atleast start up
[12:52] <SSX_1> I installed server 11.04 on an old armada m300, however display output is garbage black and white....
[12:52] <aparna_> do u know any solution for d start up
[12:52] <SSX_1> any ideas
[12:52] <coz_> aparna_,  I havent used the beta for many months now so I couldnt say if it booted or not
[12:53] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, ntfs-mount is of no help, I installed it, but there are no devices listed (my pendirve is fat)
[12:53] <dr_willis> isent there a 11.04.3 out? or was that for the other lts release...
[12:53] <coz_> aparna_,  yes   download the 11.04  release and install that
[12:53] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  check the box for allowing users full access.. it works for ntfs or vfat . the disk dosent have to be inserted at the time..
[12:53] <aparna_> well 11.04 is still beta
[12:53] <nancy--> in ftp how to cut a folder and past it inside another folder (i dont want to download and upload it again) ?
[12:53] <ccmonsters> ok, I did that dr_willis , now do a unity --reset?
[12:53] <ccmonsters> or waht?
[12:53] <coz_> aparna_,  non it is no longer beta
[12:53] <bazhang> aparna_, no its not
[12:54] <coz_> aparna_,  it is released now,, 11.10 I believe is still in alpha stage
[12:54] <dr_willis> ccmonsters,  if you have done it recently.. i doubt if it will help. :) but you can try i guess.
[12:54] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  im on the beta so cant tell you the exact wording of the ntfs-config tool. its a bit of a flakey tool sadly. :(
[12:54] <ccmonsters> It does nothing, I just keep getting the error @ http://pastie.org/2370322
[12:54] <aparna_> dey just have beta version
[12:54] <aparna_> i just checkd the site
[12:54] <coz_> aparna_,   you downloaded  the wrong version let me get link hold on
[12:55] <coz_> aparna_,    http://www.ubuntu.com/
[12:55] <coz_> aparna_,  click the "Get Ubuntu"   big red button :)
[12:56] <dr_willis> 'the jolly candy like button' :)
[12:56] <ccmonsters> lol @ coz_
[12:57] <omnibus> test
[12:57] <skyred> does Webmin reply on a webserver such as Nginx or Apache?
[12:57] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, the pendirve is mounted but ntfs-config doesn't show anything http://imagebin.org/167781
[12:57] <aparna_> i have d same iso
[12:57] <ccmonsters> ok, so issue is that the unity panels are not showing
[12:57] <coz_> aparna_,  what you might want to do is use the mini iso
[12:57] <coz_> !mini | aparna_
[12:58] <d3s3rtdw3ll3r> Benkinooby. Thought it was a fat32 FS
[12:58] <dr_willis> Benkinooby, err.. notice the check box.. 'enable write support for external.....'   Check that.. :)
[12:58] <SSX_1> how to force ubuntu server to use text only mode for display?
[12:58] <Benkinooby> d3s3rtdw3ll3r, it is... dr_willis told me to use ntfs-config...
[12:58] <aparna_> well i dnt have high speed internet
[12:58] <aparna_> n i do have d same iso
[12:58] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, oh, sorry, i had it checked and unchecked it for testing reasons
[12:58] <ccmonsters> how do i open the system settings from the cl?
[12:58] <Gentoo64> SSX_1, isnt that by default?
[12:58] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  then  when you insert any vfat/ntfs   they should get moutned where all users have full access... thats all i think you need to do. :)
[12:58] <aparna_> so wat difference will it make?
[12:59] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  check it.. You MIGHT want to reboot.. but i dont think so...
[12:59] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, it is checked, i unmounted, mounted again... no write
[12:59] <nancy--> in ftp how to cut a folder and past it inside another folder (i dont want to download and upload it again) ?
[12:59] <SSX_1> Gentoo64: i thoutgt so, but it boots into a black and white screen with unreadable text
[12:59] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  its possible any fstab entry/opther tweaks may mess with it.. but 90% of the time. I just check that box on a new install and then it works from then on.
[12:59] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  if you are mounting by HAND , then you are overriding the automounting stuff... so that box wont matter..
[12:59] <Gentoo64> SSX_1, unreadable how?
[13:00] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  IF you are mounbting by hand. you MUST use the proper options.   so pick one way or the other. :)
[13:00] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, are you speaking about the ntfs-config chekcbox?
[13:00] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  yes. that checkbox tweaks the automounting subsustem
[13:00] <SSX_1> Gentoo64: screen is white, text is black and garbaged,
[13:00] <SSX_1> Gentoo64: you can't read the letters
[13:00] <Gentoo64> ah, no idea :s
[13:00] <Gentoo64> sorry
[13:01] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, it is checked and the pen dirve is remounted
[13:01] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, let me reboot
[13:01] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  so if you have done any fstab entrys, you may want to comment them out, check that box. and reboot.   then insert the pendrive and see how its mounted.
[13:01] <dr_willis> :)
[13:02] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, my fstab http://pastebin.com/H5GDiD0N
[13:02] <SSX_1> Gentoo64: any idea when im in rescue mode where to set the video settings
[13:02] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, seems like there are only entries for my hdd partitions there...
[13:02] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  you havent done anything to that - as far as i can tell. :)
[13:02] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, i never had my hand on it - correct
[13:03] <zabomber> can i script the addition of users to the sudoers ?
[13:03] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, brb
[13:03] <dr_willis> zabomber,  you can script most anything you want.. :) if you got the skill.
[13:04] <Gentoo64> zabomber, what do you mean?
[13:04] <d3s3rtdw3ll3r> anyone know how I can set a key sequence to run a command?
[13:04] <zabomber> dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/G4VL0vkC i want to add the ability to option in for a user to be added to sudoers
[13:05] <dr_willis> zabomber,   to what end? if you want a user to have full sudo rights, you add them to the proper group normally
[13:05] <zabomber> yeh… so he/she she can act like root
[13:05] <zabomber> usermod -G etc?
[13:06] <dr_willis> zabomber,   somthing like that. I rarely have to mess with it.. as for your script.. Im not sure that using sudo IN a script.. always works properly.
[13:06] <zabomber> whats the difference between sudoers and root?
[13:06] <dr_willis> I think the script may not continue afterwards.
[13:06] <zabomber> ah...
[13:06] <zabomber> ok
[13:06] <Gentoo64> zabomber, sudoers is the rules
[13:06] <dr_willis> root is a specific user...     sudo gives users access to do speciric things as root.
[13:06] <dr_willis> You can set up sudoers to allow users to run Very specific commands as root If you wanted to.
[13:08] <JakeR003> dr_willis can i give sudoers to have full access/permission to all files/folders?
[13:08] <gry> Yes.
[13:08] <JakeR003> how?
[13:08] <Gentoo64> jakemp, it is by default
[13:09] <Gentoo64> JakeR003,
[13:09] <dr_willis> JakeR003,  by default sudo has that allready....
[13:09] <JakeR003> now it says permission " root "
[13:09] <Gentoo64> sudo = allows user to execute any command
[13:09] <dr_willis>  depending on how you define 'full access'
[13:09] <dr_willis>   sudo cp/rm/whatever  /path/to/file     ---> full access..
[13:09] <JakeR003> copy yeah i did that but without typing the command
[13:10] <bindi_> I set up remote desktop from the menu, tried connecting with tightvnc.. it hangs on "status: protocol version negotiated"
[13:10] <JakeR003> like i can use the GUI file manager to drag and move
[13:10] <JakeR003> i wwant to be able to do that
[13:10] <Henriquez> how about chmod ?
[13:10] <dr_willis> run the file manager as root... logically...
[13:10] <JakeR003> how to run it as root then all the time?
[13:10] <gry> !gksu | JakeR003
[13:10] <dr_willis> !gksudo
[13:10] <dr_willis> you DONT run a file manager as root 'all the time' unless you want to accidently trash the system.
[13:10] <dr_willis> use sudo/gksudo as needed.. get the task done.. close the filemanager..
[13:10] <JakeR003> well. i'm an admin all the time on windows
[13:11] <JakeR003> never did
[13:11] <gry> JakeR003: Bad practice.
[13:11] <JakeR003> who cares
[13:11] <Gentoo64> JakeR003, you can just gksu nautilus
[13:11] <Gentoo64> and if you accidentally delete important sruff then dont complain
[13:11] <JakeR003> Gentoo64 yes man. how?
[13:11] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, no change... pendrive still owned my root :(
[13:11] <szal> JakeR003: don't come whining here if you hosed something
[13:11] <Gentoo64> JakeR003, gksu nautilus..
[13:11] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  somthings weird then.
[13:11] <gry> JakeR003: Linux does not work *that* bad. You can NOT have a gui app running as root easily.
[13:11] <gigenieks> Hello all :)
[13:11] <JakeR003> ok
[13:11] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, ideeed
[13:11] <gry> Constantly, I mean.
[13:12] <gry> It will only launch when you implicitly ask it to.
[13:12] <dr_willis> windows actually  has a higher admin user i belive that you are not using all the time..   but thats for #windows
[13:12] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, so what you did to make an fstab entrie for ech pendrive assuming that their fs does not change
[13:12] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  somthing similer to --> #LABEL="Videos1000" 			/media/Videos1000 	ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
[13:13] <gigenieks> Is there manual for gmusicbrowser somewhere? which explains EVERYTHING ?
[13:13] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  with extra options as needed.  most likely you want to set a   defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,noauto
[13:13] <gigenieks> want to know exactly what does what..
[13:13] <coz_> gigenieks,  in terminal   man gmusicbrowser   maybe
[13:13] <dr_willis> theres always the apps homepage, wiich may have a forum/guides/wiki
[13:14] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, i really wonder what i messed up... as i said, for a default ubuntu install, all this is no issue
[13:14] <Henriquez> and there is a manual/guid in > http://gmusicbrowser.org/guide.html
[13:14] <coz_> Guest83232,   sn was way easier to tab :)
[13:14] <ccmonster> still no dice
[13:14] <ccmonster> damn
[13:14] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  no idea. I rarely fight with the automonting stuff. If i want it to mount - i mount it. :)
[13:14] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, default install just mount your pendrive with write permissions, without fstab messign or anything else
[13:14] <gry> ccmonster: ?
[13:14] <ccmonster> basically, all i cant get to is the top panel and the sidebar
[13:14] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  im on the beta now. so cant even double check stuff for you.
[13:14] <gigenieks> coz_:  I need with screenshots and for GUI gmusicbrowser ;)
[13:14] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, i am somehow tiered of manually mounting it every thime
[13:14] <ccmonster> i can shuffle workspaces , etc
[13:15] <ccmonster> just no panels
[13:15] <coz_> gigenieks,  ah i see,m,m  did you check online for any sites that may offer screenshots of gmusicbrowser?
[13:15] <compdoc> bindi_, from the menu? meaning System menu>Preferences>Remote Desktop?
[13:15] <bindi_> compdoc: yes
[13:15] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  theres the forums and askubuntu.com they may mention somthing ive overlooked.. 90% of the time that ntfs-config works.. but its an old app and has always been buggy
[13:15] <gigenieks> just their homepage
[13:15] <gigenieks> I would like to have manual like Virtual Box have.
[13:15] <gigenieks> very detailed
[13:16] <tt_1> does anyone know how to install kismet-newcore dependencies?
[13:16] <Ulfalizer> what's the "preferred" way to install a git server that launches on boot? editing boot scripts the old-fashioned way, or is there something more automatic?
[13:16] <gigenieks> So I know exactly what option does what and how everything connects etc etc
[13:16] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, can i use my launchpad login for the ubuntu forum?
[13:16] <compdoc> bindi_, that requires that someone be logged into the desktop when you want to access
[13:16] <Henriquez> @ ggve you tried their wiki http://wiki.gmusicbrowser.org/
[13:16] <bindi_> compdoc: there is
[13:16] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  no idea. tryit and see.
[13:17] <dr_willis> BBL. gotta  do a errand.
[13:17] <tt_1> cannot make libcapability support to work
[13:17] <compdoc> bindi_, I think that one uses port 5900
[13:17] <bindi_> compdoc: yes i tried that and it's the same as not having a port
[13:18] <compdoc> not sure what that means
[13:18] <compdoc> oh, you mean you dont have to specify a port
[13:18] <bindi_> yes
[13:19] <gigenieks> seems like no one uses gmusicbrowser? Maybe I am asking in wrong channel?
[13:19] <compdoc> did you install tightvnc on the machine youre trying to connect to? thats a slightly different service than the built-in one
[13:19] <yeats> gigenieks: you might end up having to contact the project for more details - many open source projects docs are sparse and potentially out of date
[13:20] <Dragon64> gigenieks
[13:20] <yeats> gigenieks: of course you can probably volunteer to improve that situation for projects you care about ;-)
[13:20] <Dragon64> you talkin about google music?
[13:20] <coz_> gigenieks,    http://gmusicbrowser.org/faq.html
[13:21] <robin0800> gigenieks, have you seen the Shimmer project take on gmusicbrowser
[13:22] <gigenieks> yeats: I probably will read everything about music, video, image etc software, so I don't think I have time to volunteer to all projects lol :) But I could for now file a bug (Xfburn) waiting for replies in Ubuntu forums
[13:22] <gigenieks> robin0800: no
[13:22] <compdoc> the built-in remote desktop sharing is vino
[13:22] <gigenieks> coz_: i was there, it not enough..
[13:22] <Sebo> hi, Can you tell me how can I list all opened TCP ports?
[13:22] <Soothsayer> could someone recommend a clipboard manager?
[13:22] <Random832> Sebo: netstat -lnt
[13:23] <Random832> er, that's all listening - depends on your definition of "open"
[13:23] <robin0800> gigenieks, they claim there is lots of bugs that they have fixed in the standard module
[13:25] <Sebo> Random832: That is it. I just wonted to determine if my headless virtualbox is listening for rdp connection
[13:26] <gigenieks> robin0800: I didn't get what you ment. many bugs in gmusicbrowser? I am using it only because it is by default on Xubuntu and it is supposed to be lightweight on resources (have old PC) I just want to fully understand everything I use in my system (Xubuntu, Virtual Box, gmusicbrowser, etc etc) not in one day or week, but after some time I would like to do everything what I want and how I want and understand why things works in way they are working :) )
[13:26] <nullzion> gigenieks, best way is to write you own then :P
[13:27] <gigenieks> nullzion: I have no clue what you meant...
[13:27] <Sebo> I'm trying to set up vbox @ ubuntu serwer with no graphical GUI. And till now I can run the vm and take PNG snapshot of its screen. but I can not connect to it in any way :/
[13:28] <nullzion> Sebo,  did you install ssh server on it?
[13:28] <exutux> Sebo: do you have installed extpack ?
[13:29] <herrgabriel> When I click on a link in Gwibber, Empathy or other Programs, the link is not opened in the default browser, but instead with Geany. Why is that? (11.04)
[13:30] <exutux> Sebo: I mean from oracle site VirtualBox 4.1 Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack
[13:31] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, i am putting my question to the forum ubuntuforums.org . i will explain why state and what i want to achive. i'll paste my fstab and mount (with and without pendrive) and tell them that ntfs-config did not work. did i forget anything to mention fo a successful ask in the forum?
[13:31] <Sebo> nullzion: I had - I've exported the vm from the desktop host and here (@ desktop) I've installed openssh at the vm. And everything is fine when it is runned from the desktop host.
[13:31] <Sidewinder1> Benkinooby, He had to go; but your info looks correct.
[13:31] <dr_willis> Benkinooby,  not that i can think of.. check askubuntu.com also.
[13:32] <Sidewinder1> Sorry, he's back. :-)
[13:32] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, Sidewinder1 ok, thank you both for your time, interest and patience
[13:32] <nullzion> herrgabriel, try gconf-editor, under it go to desktop->appliactions->browser and then on the right side under exec change it to whatever browser u want
[13:32] <Sebo> I did not installed VMbox guest extensions cause I suposed to connect to the vm by ssh only ;]
[13:32] <Sidewinder1> Benkinooby, You're more than welcome. :D
[13:32] <gigenieks> So, will anybody add something or I can quit channel for now? :)
[13:32] <ccmonster> how do i get the notification panel back?
[13:33] <exutux> Sebo: It isn't vbox guest addition it is an extpack that enable VRDE on server
[13:33] <coz_> gigenieks,  I cant add anything more,, not all applications have good explanations or tutorials
[13:33] <dr_willis> theres always the source. :)
[13:33] <herrgabriel> nullzion, it states "firefox" as default browser. The url-handler in gconf-editor also shows correct entries for http:// and so on. But still no luck
[13:34] <Sebo> And I use oracle VBox 4.1 cause the ubuntu virtualbox-ose did not worked.
[13:34] <coz_> gigenieks,  that's true ,, you can always take a good look at the code
[13:34] <exutux> Sebo: If you want use ssh only, why you need RDP enabled?
[13:34] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, Sidewinder1 maybe i should add the groups my user belongs to
[13:34] <Sebo> exutux: So this might be the case.
[13:34] <nullzion> herrgabriel, uhh, thats past my limits about ubuntu, good luck tho
[13:34] <Sebo> I just wonted to check why the ssh is not working
[13:34] <robin0800> gigenieks, Well still suggest you google the Shimmer Project
[13:35] <herrgabriel> anybody else maybe?
[13:35] <Sebo> cause at the screens of guest I've got bringing up eth0 and the sshd.
[13:35] <SSX_1> how to connect a usb wifi in terminal ??
[13:36] <coz_> herrgabriel,  who is online depends mainly on timezones..so  at a different time there may be someone available with different solutions
[13:36] <herrgabriel> coz_, ... i know?
[13:36] <exutux> Sebo: well if you want it, install extpack before, and after run you guest machine VBoxHeadless --startvm 'name' then you can connect from another client with rdesktop-vrdp ip_server:3389
[13:36] <tobetter> hello, my microphone don't work on my laptop, can someone do me a favor?
[13:38] <Sebo> exutux: what is the package name of this extpack? I can not see anything I would suspect to be this.
[13:38] <gigenieks> robin0800: and what next?
[13:38] <exutux> Sebo: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads
[13:39] <exutux> Sebo: wget it in your server and install it by VBoxManage
[13:40] <gigenieks> robin0800: found this: https://launchpad.net/gmb-shimmer
[13:40] <robin0800> gigenieks, see there take on gmusicbrowser its one of their projects there's even a ppa to install it
[13:40] <Sebo> exutux: and that is what I did: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-4.1 dkms
[13:41] <exutux> Sebo: is it installed?
[13:41] <exutux> virtualbox ^
[13:41] <Sebo> with this repo: deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian lucid contrib non-free
[13:41] <Sebo> and it it
[13:41] <Sebo> is
[13:41] <gigenieks> robin0800: what you mean with words "take on gmusic.."? That they have manual or someone from that project could explain everything I want to know?
[13:42] <exutux> ok and do you have created guest machine in your server?
[13:43] <induz> is there anyway i can image of drive c: of a Computer
[13:43] <engammalsko> How do I send an email from my server from command line? I have a LAMP server.
[13:43] <exutux> Sebo:  ok and do you have created guest machine in your server?
[13:43] <Gentoo64> induz, clonezilla
[13:43] <induz> is image is also called snap
[13:43] <gry> engammalsko: sendmail ?
[13:43] <Sebo> No I've created guest on my desktop and exported it to the server via *.ova
[13:43] <engammalsko> gry: More detailed please : )
[13:44] <Jon--> engammalsko, man sendmail
[13:44] <Henriquez> try vmail http://danielchoi.com/software/vmail.html
[13:44] <sveinse> I want to display a splash (not plymouth theme) which is a png file on the screen (I guess /dev/fb0). How can I do that the simplest way?
[13:44] <gry> engammalsko: http://www.feep.net/sendmail/tutorial/run/commandline.html ?
[13:44] <exutux> Sebo: via *.ova?? what is that? maybe .vdi??
[13:45] <induz> is there any application like ImageX[ in Windows] in ubuntu
[13:45] <Elirips> Hello everyone. I'm trying to test gnome3 from ppa, following the instructions here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gnome3-on-ubuntu-11-04-nattyubuntu-10-10-maverick.html. But whenever I do 'sudo apt-get install gnome-shell', I get 'Package gnome-shell is not available, but is referred to by another package.' any ideas what might be wrong=?
[13:46] <induz> I am looking for something like ImageX to capture an image of a PC
[13:46] <Sebo> exutux: I use bridged networking so I needed to vboxmanage modifyvm name --bridgeadapter1 eth0 .
[13:46] <exutux> Sebo: It doesn'n matter
[13:47] <herrgabriel> Elirips, have you included the repository from gnome3 into your packagemanager and then "sudo apt-get update"?
[13:47] <induz> Gentoo64, colezilla takes the sectorBysector image
[13:47] <Elirips> herrgabriel: yes, I followed the four steps mentioned there. How could I test that the repo is really in by now?
[13:47] <exutux> Sebo: you must create a guest machine on the server too, and after attach to it your *.vdi  HD
[13:47] <Sidewinder1> !gnome3 | Elirips
[13:47] <Sebo> exutux: when I chose file -> export apilance at my desktop vm host I can chose betwean ova and ovf export formats
[13:47] <gigenieks> OK bye for now. Good luck. ;)
[13:48] <Gentoo64> induz, no it dont
[13:48] <exutux> Sebo: ok RDP doesn't run in that format at all
[13:48] <herrgabriel> Elirips, you could open up synaptic and manually search for contents of the repository
[13:49] <damno> can I override the default_bar_size parameter in a conky script?
[13:49] <herrgabriel> Elirips, this is all they have in that repo: https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3
[13:49] <Sebo> exutux: Ok so I'll try to make it at the server from strach :] ...anyway I thoght creating this et desktop woyld be more user frendly ;]
[13:49] <SSX_1> I've got a usb wifi, that is recognized by the os, how to turn it on??
[13:49] <compdoc> clonezilla only does a secotr copy if you use LVM
[13:49] <exutux> Sebo: clone your .vdi with VBoxManage clonehd /path/*.vdi  /pendrive/*vdi  copy it in the same way into your server, create a new machine, attach .vdi
[13:49] <Ramses> nothing is user friendly
[13:50] <engammalsko> gry: I'm installing sendmail atm.  :)
[13:50] <damno> can I override the default_bar_size parameter in a conky script?
[13:50] <Elirips> herrgabriel: shouldnt I see something about gnome3-team in /etc/apt/sources.list after adding the repo? When I add the repo I get this output: http://pastebin.com/tNpx6110
[13:50] <exutux> Sebo: yeah, isn't more userfriendly use vbox without GUI :)
[13:50] <Gentoo64> induz, i backup my ssd (60gb) with clonezilla, only takes up 1gb space
[13:50] <Elirips> herrgabriel: I also had gnome3 installed some time ago, then removed it again, (using ppa-purge), so maybe something is broken because of that?
[13:51] <exutux> Sebo: I'm learning more about it in this period of my worklife!! and it is awesome :p
[13:52] <herrgabriel> Elirips, that might be. I doubt that ppa-purge reset everything to the pre-gnome3 state.
[13:52] <herrgabriel> you could set up a VM with your ubuntu version on it and try installing the ppa there
[13:52] <damno> can I override the default_bar_size parameter in a conky script?
[13:52] <engammalsko> I don't understand "sendmail"... Can a send a mail to someone with it? Or how's it working...
[13:53] <wmmnd> Hi there, can you tell me what I have to do if I want my application packaged for Ubuntu universe?
[13:53] <Elirips> herrgabriel: Thanks for your help! The repo was "disabled" in synaptic, I added it, and trying to install gnoem3 now.. (in the hope, that the dynamic-clock option for the radeo-driver, will prevent my card from getting 90°+, when running gnome)
[13:54] <herrgabriel> Elirips, god speed with that
[13:54] <Ulfalizer> engammalsko: sendmail is the program that sends off the mail. you hand it the mail contents, recipient, cc/bcc, etc. and it talks to the remote mail server in the language it understands to send off the mail.
[13:54] <Elirips> herrgabriel: thanks. Ah, I'm so pissed about ati and their fglrx-driver :P
[13:55] <herrgabriel> get some nice nvidia cards then ;)
[13:55] <Ulfalizer> so it has no gui or anything like that. it's often used by other programs, e.g. mutt.
[13:55] <Elirips> herrgabriel: I will, probably with a thinkpad t420s
[13:55] <Ulfalizer> unless you're doing something fancy, you might not have to deal with it directly
[13:56] <engammalsko> Ulfalizer: Could you tell me how I can send an simple mail? : )
[13:56] <Ulfalizer> i don't know sendmail - sorry :/
[13:56] <Ulfalizer> if i remember correctly, it's syntax is pretty arcane
[13:56] <Ulfalizer> -'
[13:56] <engammalsko> Ulfalizer: Ok, I just want to find out if my server supports mailing :/
[13:57] <Ulfalizer> i think most ISPs block outgoing mail (stuff going out on the sendmail port), to prevent spamming
[13:57] <oCean> engammalsko: sendmail is not very easy to configure. Default MTA for ubuntu is postfix, which is easier. If *sending* mail is all you need (e.g. not receiving) the the nullmailer package is quite easy
[13:57] <Ulfalizer> if you have a simple "user" account, that will probably be hte case
[13:58] <engammalsko> oCean: Thanks.
[13:58] <Ulfalizer> hmm, scrap that. might not be most ISPs at all, seeing as i can use mutt just fine to send off mail (i use it with gmail).
[13:58] <gry> engammalsko: http://www.feep.net/sendmail/tutorial/run/commandline.html
[13:59] <Ulfalizer> i remember my old local ISP doing it at least. bauhaus apparently doesn't.
[13:59] <Ulfalizer> unless i'm confusing things somehow
[13:59] <gry> engammalsko: Or what oCean said.
[13:59] <engammalsko> gry: I looked there but didn't understand which flag etc to use to send a mail ehe...
[13:59] <gry> engammalsko: Listen to oCean then.
[14:00] <engammalsko> gry: Yeah, already installed it : )
[14:00] <deus|-|> I did a filesystem check on an ancient Logical Volume of mine, and it came back as "unclean" is the problem be carried back to the Volume group or Physical Volume?
[14:00] <Ulfalizer> engammalsko: your smileys are spacey :S
[14:00] <oCean> engammalsko: your ISP probably has provided you with the information of their outgoing mailserver e.g. smtp.domain.com. When using nullmailer that is ALL you have to set in the configfiles
[14:01] <Ulfalizer> or you could use e.g. gmail. some work to set up, but there are good guides.
[14:01] <Ulfalizer> provided your ISP lets you send stuff on the sendmail port to any server, and not just their local ones
[14:02] <archman> hi
[14:02] <archman> how to make pidgin to not start minimized? any ideas?
[14:03] <Gentoo64> archman, is there a way to disable the taskbar thing?
[14:03] <haosdent1> when I open eclipse, the eclipse is freeze on "loading workbench"
[14:03] <archman> Gentoo64: pidgin is integrated in MeMenu on my system
[14:03] <haosdent1> does anybody know how to solve this problem
[14:04] <Gentoo64> archman, im not sure then. add pidgin to autostart?
[14:04] <Gentoo64> so it pops up?
[14:04] <archman> Gentoo64: i mean, it starts minimized to the taskbar, not the tray
[14:04] <prod_> HI all, can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong. I am trying to install oneiric alpha dvd amd64. I hit small bugs on both install and live so am insatting in text mode. My partition setup is: 10GB sba1 as /boot and the rest of the drive is a logical group where / is a logical volume in that group. but i cannot install grub. red screenerror on text mode
[14:04] <archman> Gentoo64: don't want it on startup
[14:05] <engammalsko> oCean: What should hostname be?  mail.myisp.com:25 ? Or something like localhost:25 ?
[14:05] <Gentoo64> archman, im not sure, sorry :(
[14:05] <oCean> prod_: 11.10 support in #ubuntu+1 channel
[14:05] <prod_> thank you
[14:05] <archman> Gentoo64: nvm :)
[14:05] <auronandace> archman: that is the indicator applet
[14:05] <oCean> engammalsko: what, where?
[14:06] <archman> auronandace: MeMenu? Yes.
[14:06] <engammalsko> oCean: /etc/esmtprc
[14:06] <archman> engammalsko: system hostname? why not a simple name
[14:07] <oCean> engammalsko: that is not from nullmailer?
[14:07] <auronandace> archman: not sure what its called
[14:07] <archman> auronandace: what's your point, anyway? :D
[14:08] <gantrixx> I can't get my NAS to mount anymore
[14:08] <auronandace> archman: i thought you were talking about the indicator applet (it doesn't autostart the app)
[14:08] <gantrixx> what is the best log for troubleshooting that?
[14:08] <Johnny_Giggles> Is this the place to discuss 11.10?
[14:08] <oCean> Johnny_Giggles: no, #ubuntu+1 is
[14:08] <Gentoo64> Johnny_Giggles, i thinkm its ubuntu+1
[14:08] <auronandace> archman: there are guides to disable it
[14:08] <gigenieks> guys, if I want to copy-paste command output from terminal and paste it in pastebin.ubuntu.com what should I choose "simple text" for easier reading for others?
[14:08] <Johnny_Giggles> ok thx
[14:08] <archman> auronandace: nah, when i launch pidgin, it starts minimized to the taskbar
[14:08] <gry> gigenieks: yes
[14:09] <Gentoo64> gigenieks, or use ubutnus wgetpaste type thing
[14:09] <engammalsko> oCean: Can I just run the command echo "test" | sendmail mymail@gmail.com ?
[14:09] <auronandace> archman: oh, sorry i misunderstood
[14:09] <archman> auronandace: i don't want to disable the indicator applet, that's a shiny part of ubuntu
[14:09] <engammalsko> oCean: Or is that really nullmailer?
[14:09] <oCean> engammalsko: no, you need a program to handle your outgoing mail. A program that knows where to drop your mail. That program is nullmailer
[14:10] <engammalsko> oCean: Ok. But I've just installed it with default conifgurations.
[14:10] <engammalsko> oCean: Can I use the mail() function now in php? Or do I need to do something more?
[14:11] <oCean> engammalsko: do you know what your ISP's smtp server is?
[14:11] <engammalsko> oCean: Heh, no.
[14:11] <oCean> engammalsko: well, you have to find out, since that is the server where to deliver the mail. That severname (smtp.domain.com) has to be in /etc/nullmailer/remotes
[14:11] <oCean> that's all
[14:11] <archman> from where does rhythmbox fetch the lyrics? do you guys recommend banshee better?
[14:12] <engammalsko> oCean: I just have "mail." Should I change it too what you said?
[14:13] <oCean> just mail? what..
[14:13] <oCean> engammalsko: what does that mean just "mail"
[14:14] <engammalsko> oCean: ehrm.. If I open the file remotes in gedit...
[14:14] <engammalsko> oCean: I have one line that says ".mail"
[14:14] <engammalsko> oCean: So I changed that line to "smtp.domain.com"
[14:14] <oCean> engammalsko: oh, that can be some default, I dunno.
[14:14] <oCean> engammalsko: that won't work
[14:15] <oCean> engammalsko: as I said before, you have to use the smtp server of your ISP
[14:15] <engammalsko> oCean: Ok, what should I do then? I'm pretty stupid when it comes too things like this.
[14:15] <oCean> engammalsko: call your ISP and ask which smpt server you should use
[14:16] <engammalsko> oCean: Seriosly.. I don't even know what ISP is.. hehe
[14:16] <oCean> engammalsko: the company that is providing your internetconnection
[14:16] <engammalsko> oCean: I think it's Hi3G Access AB
[14:17] <engammalsko> oCean: And I think that's right since I'm using a 3G mobile internet atm hahah
[14:17] <Sidewinder1> engammalsko, I think if you have an email client that you've been using with your current ISP, if you look in that program's configurations, you'll find the SMTP server address for your out-going email.
[14:17] <engammalsko> oCean: ofc I don't normally use the mobile internet when I'm running my server.
[14:18] <engammalsko> Sidewinder1: I've only used gmail (webmail).
[14:18] <engammalsko> Sidewinder1: Can I see it there too?
[14:18] <Sidewinder1> engammalsko, I don't think that'll help as it's web-mail.
[14:19] <ionite> how do i make rekonq run java plugins?
[14:19] <oCean> I would expect smtp.tre.se
[14:19] <Sidewinder1> engammalsko, As oCean Suggested, you'll have to call your Internet Service Provider and ask them for the address of their SMTP server, for out-going email.
[14:21] <Sidewinder1> engammalsko, Or perhaps outgoing.tre.se
[14:21] <Sidewinder1> I'd try bith.
[14:21] <Sidewinder1> both, even.
[14:22] <Sidewinder1> BRB.
[14:22] <engammalsko> But, what do I do when I know what smtp my isp uses?
[14:23] <oCean> engammalsko: then, enter that name (or ipaddress) in /etc/nullmailer/remotes file
[14:24] <oCean> engammalsko: according to this: http://www.ports.net/support/smtp.asp your smtp would be smtp.tre.se  I cannot connect - what happens if you try   telnet smtp.tre.se 25
[14:27] <iceroot> is there something like a hook in /etc/fstab? like when something mounted successfully to run a script
[14:28] <engammalsko> oCean: Ok, I've changed remotes now. Anything more? If it's not working I'm trying the other smtp :p
[14:28] <haosdent1> haha,when i delete the ".meta" in the workspace , the eclipse work normally
[14:29] <oCean> engammalsko: you first have to try if you can actually connect to that server. You're currently configures smtp.tre.se? Then try  telnet smtp.tre.se 25
[14:31] <engammalsko> oCean: just entering the domain in my address bar in my web browser? XD
[14:31] <Sidewinder1> oCean, JFF I tried to telnet to that addy and it "timed-out".
[14:32] <engammalsko> oCean: I guess that's not right at all xD
[14:32] <oCean> Sidewinder1: engammalsko yes, for me it times out as well. So engammalsko better call his ISP and ask. We're not going to figure it out here
[14:32] <i_am_a_dog212> Hello.
[14:32] <Sidewinder1> oCean, Agreed; at least we tried. :-)
[14:32] <jpw1391> Hi would it be against this channels rules to post a dropbox invitation?
[14:32] <compdoc> ISPs often block port 25
[14:32] <oCean> jpw1391: yes, nothing offtopic here
[14:32] <jpw1391> I really need a few people to sign up just 3-4 would be perfect
[14:33] <jpw1391> oCean fair enough
[14:33] <engammalsko> oCean: Ah ok. I just wanted to know how I should do. : )
[14:33] <engammalsko> Thanks a lot.
[14:33] <Sidewinder1> engammalsko, You're welcome.
[14:34] <Sidewinder1> jpw1391, Perhaps in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[14:34] <i_am_a_dog212> I bought a new laptop and I put ubuntu in my RAM is currently 1 GB and I bought a new 2 GB RAM and going to give to the computer shop to replace it so when I replace it will the OS (OS: Ubuntu) be damaged.
[14:35] <compdoc> no
[14:35] <compdoc> the swap file will be a little small, is all
[14:35] <compdoc> err, swap partition
[14:35] <jpw1391> ill try there
[14:35] <StevenR> i_am_a_dog212: assuming the computer shop doesn't do something stupid, no. Upgrading RAM won't break ubuntu.
[14:37] <adnc> hello, what is the image filename of mp3 icons? I would like to use my own in an icontheme i found
[14:38] <ionite> hi. i got this error Applet not loaded properply. please reload page. it's from rekonq when i tried to load this website https://pib.uob.com.sg/PIBLogin/appmanager/Login/Public
[14:40] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, so, posted it at the forum... the launchpad id can indirectly be used (by connecting your launchpad id with a new/existing user in the ubunutfoum over OpenID) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1824837
[14:40] <rabbi1> font-viewer is not working...... :(
[14:41] <archman> adnc: /usr/share/icons/Humanity/mimes/48/audio-mpeg.svg or something like that
[14:41] <adnc> archman, I can try it, but they all do look different, something like gnome-xxx
[14:42] <archman> aaah
[14:43] <elizabeth> can someone help install flashplayer?
[14:44] <vincentvdBergh> yes
[14:44] <theadmin> elizabeth: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installert
[14:44] <theadmin> elizabeth: installer, rather
[14:44] <vincentvdBergh> or use the FLASHAID addon in Firefox.
[14:44] <theadmin> vincentvdBergh: Not everybody uses Firefox, trust me on that.
[14:44] <adnc> archman, for example I do have a file gnome-mime-audio-x-mp3.svg but it still shows an icon from an other theme
[14:45] <elizabeth> thanks tons
[14:46] <rabbi1> ibus won't start during startup , even after including it in the "startup applications"
[14:48] <adnc> archman, i made a link from my file to audio-mpeg.svg and it did work, is there a list what they need to be named?
[14:49] <archman> adnc: got no idea, sorry
[14:51] <xiaohe> ?
[14:52] <RB2> Hello. Has anyone seen where empathy suddenly stops displaying google talk contacts? The account shows as signed in and Available.
[14:52] <RB2> I've done some searching, but haven't come up with much
[14:57] <rabbi1> font viewer is not starting. any suggestions. also ibus is not starting at startup.... :(
[14:58] <olzhas> hey guys
[14:58] <olzhas> https://launchpad.net/~olzhas/+archive/hp-drive-guard
[14:58] <olzhas> try this
[14:59] <theadmin> olzhas: This is a support channel ; please do not spam either.
[15:01] <gabe_> hello community, what is the directory path to the terminal please? I'm trying to open a telnet link and firefox asks me to choose the application I'd like to use to open the link (the terminal in this case) but I don't know where it's located
[15:01] <theadmin> gabe_: /usr/bin/gnome-terminal, but that ain't gonna work with Firefox
[15:01] <theadmin> gabe_: You need a short script
[15:02] <gabe_> theadmin: why is that? would you be able to make it happen?
[15:03] <rypervenche> gabe_: Get the telnet link and type it in manually into the terminal
[15:04] <Herakles> llutz, Do you have some small time free... ?
[15:04] <rabbi1> font viewer is not starting. any suggestions. also ibus is not starting at startup.... :(
[15:05] <theadmin> gabe_: https://pzt.me/3ygi - save this in /usr/local/bin as "telnet-for-firefox" or something. Make it executable. Point Firefox to it.
[15:05] <gabe_> rypervenche: the address doesn't show... there seems to be a java script associated with it or something like that
[15:05] <gabe_> theadmin: thanks I'll give it a try :)
[15:05] <olzhas> theadmin, ok
[15:08] <Kreative`> Hi, quick question, I just installed 11.04, and I am wondering would it  be safe to update to 11.10 alpha via update manager -d?
[15:08] <openbees> heloo guys it's good to see large cloud of ubuntu lovers after very long time .!
[15:08] <xangua> Kreative`: no
[15:08] <xangua> ans is neither suported here
[15:08] <Herakles> help!        Would somebody be so kind to check my small problem ? Softwarecenter does finds the media; I guess it is looking in wrong location (/media/cdrom...); only /media/Ubuntu 11.04... is existent; directory cdrom is in root-directory; please check my pastes; I am holding a screenshot... where do i post it ?
[15:08] <xangua> but do as you wish
[15:09] <Herakles> http://paste.ubuntu.com/665080/
[15:09] <oCean> Kreative`: support for 11.10 is in #ubuntu+1 channel. But it's still an alpha release, so expect troubles
[15:09] <Kreative`> Ah ok, thanks.
[15:09] <potatoe> I am editing my menu.xml for my media machine. When I select the item, I want to replace the image that appears on the right ( right now I see a joystick )
[15:09] <potatoe> oops, wrong room ;)
[15:09] <openbees> is gnome3 repository for ubuntu 11.04 is stable now or not?
[15:09] <xangua> openbees: is not
[15:10] <mustardCU> openbees, just wait until 11.10
[15:10] <openbees> mustardCU : that's what people  suggested to me on internet too
[15:10] <openbees> thanks
[15:11] <mustardCU> openbees, you're welcome
[15:11] <openbees> mustardCU : hat if i try to to install with unstable repository ?
[15:12] <rabbi1> How do i set a 3 mins delay for the "Network Manager" to start connecting automatically
[15:12] <iridium> search for unstable definition
[15:12] <Herakles> !screenshot
[15:12] <ccmonster> is there a gui or anything to control my fans?
[15:12] <oCean> openbees: no promises or support from this channel
[15:12] <ccmonster> it sounds like my fan just wont stop running, even though I am pretty sure it's not overheating or anything.
[15:12] <mustardCU> openbees, I did that before.  Gnome 3 started with a weird theme and Unity is broken.  If you really want to use Gnome3, test it on a virtual machine first.
[15:13] <openbees> oCean : i am not expecting such things :-)
[15:13] <FxIII> hi all
[15:14] <mustardCU> openbees, oh, and I couldn't go back to the stable Gnome for whatever reason so i had to reinstall.  Another reason why you should use a virtual machine first.
[15:14] <gabe_> theadmin: it doesn't work :( the terminal opens for 1 second and then disappears
[15:14] <FxIII> is there a way to get a script run when a device is plugged in?
[15:14] <theadmin> gabe_: Odd
[15:14] <theadmin> FxIII: udev rules
[15:16] <meeyay> join #hi
[15:16] <openbees> mustardCU : u could downgrade to ur older gnome...
[15:16] <theadmin> openbees: You can't.
[15:16] <mustardCU> openbees, i tried.  Didn't work.
[15:17] <openbees> theadmin : thanks i goted
[15:17] <theadmin> !gnome3 | openbees, mustardCU
[15:17] <Herakles> help!        Would somebody be so kind to check my small problem ? Softwarecenter does finds the media; I guess it is looking in wrong location (/media/cdrom...); only /media/Ubuntu 11.04... is existent; directory cdrom is in root-directory; please check my pastes; I am holding a screenshot
[15:17] <Herakles> http://paste.ubuntu.com/665080/
[15:17] <FxIII> theadmin: where I can find documentation about this?
[15:17] <Herakles> http://imagebin.org/167793
[15:17] <Herakles>  
[15:17] <theadmin> FxIII: Tons of places honestly
[15:17] <graciela> hi guys, I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 64b with kernel 2.6.38, but I cannot connect with the wifi card . The error is:
[15:17] <graciela> root@graciela-laptop:/home/graciela# ifconfig wlan0 up
[15:17] <graciela> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Error desconocido 132
[15:18] <graciela> error desconocido = unknown error :)
[15:18] <graciela> any idea, please?
[15:18] <openbees> ubottu : thanks dear i know you are bot ...but realy you are smart enough !
[15:20] <FxIII> theadmin: a simple tutorial to start out...
[15:21] <oCean> Herakles: do you know where the dvd is actually mounted?
[15:21] <norbert_> The installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk:
[15:21] <norbert_> [Errno 5] Input/output error
[15:21] <norbert_> This is often due to a faulty CD/DVD disk or drive, or a faulty hard disk. It may help to clean the CD/DVD, to burn the CD/DVD at a lower speed, to clean the CD/DVD drive lens (cleaning kits are often available from electronics suppliers), to check whether the hard disk is old and in need of replacement, or to move the system to a cooler environment.
[15:22] <FloodBot1> norbert_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:22] <norbert_> how come everybody and his mom gets that error message
[15:22] <Herakles> oCean, yes...
[15:22] <oCean> Herakles: is it currently mounted?
[15:22] <Herakles> oCean, yes...
[15:22] <norbert_> I mean, 2 completely different computers I got that error, and now my friend is installing it on his pc and he Skypes me that he got that error
[15:22] <openbees> have a nice day/night guys...thank you so much for time...:-)
[15:23] <oCean> Herakles: what is the output of the  mount  command?
[15:23] <oCean> Herakles: (in pastebin please)
[15:23] <mustardCU> You're welcome, openbees
[15:23] <Herakles> oCean,  no output....
[15:23] <Herakles> it ismounted automatically....
[15:23] <Herakles>  
[15:23] <oCean> Herakles: typing    mount      in terminal should show all currently mounted filesystems
[15:24] <Herakles> I don´t have a problem mounting the cd...., oCean
[15:24] <Herakles> DVD...
[15:24] <oCean> Herakles: I want to verify where it is mounted
[15:24] <pete> hello
[15:25] <Herakles> oCean, , please check my paste...., it is mounted in /media as Ubuntu 11.04........
[15:25] <Herakles> http://paste.ubuntu.com/665080/
[15:25] <Guest18074> can anybody help me get rid of this error? "error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[15:25] <Yeti_69> !fr
[15:25] <oCean> Herakles: no, your paste does not show that. Show me the output of the   mount  command
[15:26] <Herakles> #ls /media; dont you see the Ubuntu-directory in my paste ?
[15:26] <oCean> Herakles: do you want me to help you?
[15:27] <Guest18074> can anyone help me with epsxe?
[15:27] <Herakles> I have no output if i am using mount command, oCean
[15:28] <oCean> Herakles: that's a problem. It should. Try  cat /proc/mounts
[15:29] <peate> "can anybody help me get rid of this error? "error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[15:29] <norbert_> peate: install Windows 7
[15:29] <peate> thanks norbert but no thanks
[15:29] <oCean> norbert_: how is that helpful?
[15:29] <auronandace> Herakles: open a terminal and type "mount", it should show you what is mounted where
[15:30] <Herakles> /dev/sr0 /media/Ubuntu\04011.04\040i386 iso9660 ro,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1000,iocharset=utf8,mode=0400,dmode=0500 0 0
[15:30] <contrast> Greets, everyone... Anyone know how I might get suspend working on my laptop again? It mysteriously stopped working ~a week ago (goes to a black screen with blinking cursor and blinking caps lock light on the keyboard).
[15:30] <norbert_> oCean: then he can use other software that do not require libtk libraries or certain versions
[15:30] <norbert_> damn, let me retry that
[15:31] <norbert_> oCean: then (s)he can use other software that does not require libgtk libraries of certain versions
[15:31] <peate> right norbert but im trying to set it up on linux. im very close i just need that
[15:31] <oCean> norbert_: this is ubuntu support channel, you better stop silly remarks like that
[15:31] <oCean> Herakles: I need all of the output
[15:31] <Herakles> okay, just a sec..
[15:32] <peate> so does anyone have any suggestions?
[15:32] <auronandace> peate: what are you trying to setup that requires gtk1?
[15:33] <rumpe1> peate, http://titan2x.wordpress.com/2010/07/18/installing-libgtk-1-2-on-recent-versions-of-ubuntu/
[15:33] <Herakles> http://paste.ubuntu.com/665834/
[15:33] <edbian> peate: Is this some very old software or something that requires gtk 1?
[15:33] <peate> auronan, im trying to setup epsxe and i have everything except for that libgtk1.2
[15:33] <peate> yes it it
[15:34] <peate> thanks rumpel, ill take a  look at that
[15:34] <oCean> Herakles: somehow it is mounted twice. Also at /media/apt, which is probably the actual apt location.
[15:35] <contrast> peate: You're trying to compile epsxe? I'm pretty sure there's a PPA for it...
[15:35] <oCean> Herakles: from your screenshot it seems the system searches in /media/cdrom.  So do this in a terminal:   sudo ln -s /media/cdrom /media/apt
[15:35] <lazarus_> hi all
[15:35] <peate> RUmple you are a life saver!! thank you!!!
[15:35] <peate> rumple, that link worked perfectly, +1 in my book for you
[15:35] <oCean> Herakles: no wait
[15:35] <Herakles> moment, please..
[15:36] <peate> and contrast, i couldnt find one
[15:36] <contrast> peate: https://launchpad.net/~rinoadiary/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=natty
[15:36] <rumpe1> peate, give the +1 to google :)
[15:36] <peate> it worked! and google, +1 to you
[15:37] <Herakles> fogfromdust@Home:~$ sudo ln -s /media/cdrom /media/apt
[15:37] <Herakles> [sudo] password for fogfromdust:
[15:37] <Herakles> ln: Erzeuge symbolische Verknüpfung „/media/apt/cdrom“: Das Dateisystem ist nur lesbar
[15:37] <Herakles> fogfromdust@Home:~$
[15:37] <theadmin> *translates*
[15:37] <Herakles> oCean,
[15:38] <theadmin> "Can not create symbolic link '/media/apt/cdrom', the filesystem is mounted read-only"
[15:38] <theadmin> oCean: ^
[15:38] <oCean> something weird happened there
[15:38] <theadmin> Herakles: I suggest you run "LANG=C bash" in terminal before running any commands if you're not using an English sytem.
[15:39] <theadmin> Herakles: system, rather
[15:39] <contrast> peate: i recommend always searching here before trying to compile anything: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas ;-)
[15:39] <peate> thanks contrast!
[15:39] <Zahrada> I have a question.
[15:39] <contrast> np
[15:39] <theadmin> Zahrada: Ask it.
[15:39] <peate> but i already did it
[15:40] <oCean> Herakles: so, to be sure, there is nothing in /media/cdrom directory, right?
[15:40] <Zahrada> does Ubuntu have this countdown to boot a default OS as Fedora has?
[15:40] <theadmin> Zahrada: 10 seconds.
[15:40] <Zahrada> I find that rather handy
[15:40] <edbian> Zahrada: yes, that's a feature of grub
[15:40] <edbian> Zahrada: edit /etc/default/grub/
[15:40] <Zahrada> I never had that with older editions of Ubuntu, that's why I ask :)
[15:41] <Herakles> oCean, , if you see my paste; that directory /media/cdrom is not existent...
[15:41] <Zahrada> But then again, I had this RAID setup that wasn't optimally supported :)
[15:41] <auronandace> Zahrada: it only appears if you have other OS's installed alongside ubuntu
[15:41] <Zahrada> I did auronandace.
[15:42] <oCean> Herakles: exactly. Now try   sudo ln -s /media/apt /media/cdrom  (I think I had it backwards previously)
[15:42] <auronandace> Zahrada: i'm not sure about raid though
[15:42] <Benkinooby> dr_willis, MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH IT IS SOOOOLVED! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1824837
[15:42] <theadmin> oCean: hint, the syntax is "ln -s TARGET LINKNAME"
[15:42] <heckman> Question for everyone:  Any idea what would cause my frame rates to go to hell when upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04 yet running the same video drivers?
[15:42] <theadmin> oCean: Not sure what you want to link where so
[15:42] <heckman> I'm running a high-end graphics card with the non-free ATi drivers.
[15:42] <oCean> theadmin: trying to solve this: http://imagebin.org/167793
[15:42] <heckman> But 11.04 makes my FPS *suck*
[15:43] <livingdaylight> can someone tell me how to change font color in Libre Office Writer? It's black by default
[15:43] <theadmin> oCean: Ah, I see. Can't you just modify sources.list to point to a proper location?
[15:43] <Herakles> oCean, i got no output on that; should i try to find the DVD using the Softwarecenter now ?
[15:43] <oCean> Herakles: please try
[15:43] <Benkinooby> some1 here who has an help.ubuntu.com account and i read to do a small edit? i have all links at hand and it's jsut a few lines (that why i don't want to bother to create an account)
[15:44] <oCean> theadmin: not sure how this works, since there's 2 mounts for this dvd: /media/apt and /media/ubuntu 11.04    http://paste.ubuntu.com/665834/
[15:44] <Benkinooby> some1 here who has an help.ubuntu.com account and is ready to do a small edit? i have all links at hand and it's jsut a few lines (that why i don't want to bother to create an account)
[15:44] <archman> Benkinooby: you don't have to repeat, people will see
[15:44] <theadmin> !repeat | Benkinooby
[15:45] <theadmin> oCean: That mix of English and German on the screenshot is "ugh" :/
[15:45]  * heckman stabs Natty
[15:45] <Benkinooby> archman, theadmin i corrected some typos that made my comment senseless.... but you're right
[15:45] <oCean> theadmin: not my paste :(
[15:45] <archman> aah
[15:45] <theadmin> oCean: I meant the original screenshot of the problem
[15:46] <theadmin> oCean: And yeah, weird. I didn't know you can mount twice, unless you did a mount --bind...
[15:47] <oCean> theadmin: it could be that some part of this is handled by the automount of the dvd. But still, the software center looks in /media/cdrom, which is now linked to /media/apt
[15:47] <oCean> any progress Herakles ?
[15:47] <Herakles> oCean,  just a second please, my Internet is so slow...
[15:48] <Herakles> oCean, http://imagebin.org/167800
[15:48] <voxcroix> hi all
[15:49] <oCean> Hmm, that is probably because *that* part of it actually tries to mount at /dev/cdrom (which is now not possible?)
[15:50] <Herakles> oCean, shoul i create a directory called "cdrom"    in     "/media"-directory ? (/media/cdrom)
[15:50] <oCean> Herakles: well, you did a ln -s before from /media/apt so, there should be a link with that name (cdrom) in /media
[15:51] <Herakles> oCean, yes.. there is...
[15:51] <graciela> hi again, I'm having trouble with my compaq laptop and Ubuntu 10.04 64bit lts . I cannot use the wifi, mon0 appears to be down ... or missing
[15:51] <oCean> Herakles: but the link is probably what now prevents the dvd from mounting, but this is weird since its already mounted
[15:51] <graciela> any idea please?
[15:52] <graciela> here is a pastebin of my lspci
[15:52] <graciela> http://pastebin.com/f4W0jP6H
[15:52] <Herakles> oCean my i send private messages...
[15:52] <oCean> Herakles: I don't know what to say. Removing the link from /media would be a start:   rm -i /media/cdrom
[15:52] <oCean> Herakles: rather not, I have to leave in a few minutes
[15:53] <archman> graciela: are you sure it's mon0? isn't it supposed to be wlan0?
[15:53] <Herakles> k oCean, hmmmm
[15:53] <Herakles> goog bye...
[15:53] <graciela> archman, you're right . it's wlan0 , sorry
[15:53] <Herakles> good bye...
[15:53] <oCean> Herakles: have you tried to start over? I mean unmounting everything and inserting the dvd again?
[15:53] <archman> graciela: and "ifconfig wlan0 up" isn't working?
[15:53] <oCean> I'm a little stumped about the dvd mounting 2, 3 times
[15:53] <Herakles> IU am having problems following the stream of the display...
[15:54] <Herakles> oCean,  see ya....
[15:54] <graciela> root@graciela-laptop:/home/graciela/Escritorio# ifconfig wlan0 up
[15:54] <graciela> SIOCSIFFLAGS: Error desconocido 132
[15:54] <graciela> error desconocido = unknown error
[15:56] <Herakles> oCean... a new install may be neccesary; because, there might be a problem with the dirve apt was using as cdrom, but which in reality is a USB-Stick...
[15:56] <Herakles> before..
[15:56] <Herakles> did you get my point ?
[15:57] <dougl> How can I move the dock in 11.04 to the bottom of the screen
[15:57] <archman> graciela: seems like a known issue..
[15:57] <oCean> Herakles: I don't think you have to re-install, it's just a little puzzle. You have to go through the steps to check 1) if /media is empty if you unmount all other images and then start from there by 2) checking what happens (what gets mounted) as soon as you insert the dvd
[15:58] <oCean> Herakles: unfortunately I have to go, I'll be back later on
[15:58] <WiCkD1> hello.
[15:58] <Herakles> k.., talk to you maybe later...
[15:58] <Herakles> chat
[15:58] <edbian> WiCkD1: hi
[15:58] <graciela> archman, yes .... but I dont know if I should upgrade kernel or not
[15:59] <dougl> what is the dock called in ubuntu?
[15:59] <graciela> now I'm using 2.6.32-21
[15:59] <graciela> generic
[15:59] <theadmin> dougl: It has no name, it's a part of Unity
[15:59] <edbian> dougl: 'unity bar'
[15:59] <dougl> theadmin, thanks...
[15:59] <dougl> edbian, that is a good name for it - thanks.
[15:59] <archman> graciela: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/299993/comments/18
[16:00] <exutux> graciela: but, iwconfig what says?
[16:00] <Herakles> unity bar; means dock; is that what is also called "panel"
[16:00] <edbian> Herakles: no, panels are at the top and bottom in gnome 2.x
[16:00] <edbian> Herakles: The unity bar is on the left side (and it usually much larger)
[16:00] <gigenieks> Hello all, please help me my thread --->
[16:00] <gigenieks> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1824768
[16:01] <Herakles> I am using Unity as well...
[16:01] <gigenieks> I'm stuck...
[16:01] <graciela> exutux, http://pastebin.com/rdGAya4B
[16:01] <theadmin> gigenieks: Making an ISO?
[16:01] <theadmin> gigenieks: Simple enough, you can use the following command: genisoimage -o something.iso /path/to/your/folder/
[16:02] <archman> graciela: would be wise to test linux 2.6.39 to see if the problem is fixed
[16:04] <graciela> archman, ok, I'll give it a try . thank you :)
[16:04] <exutux> graciela: which ubuntu versione do you have?
[16:04] <archman> graciela: np :)
[16:04] <archman> exutux: lucid
[16:04] <graciela> now I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 lts  2.6.32-21-generic
[16:05] <Herakles> oCean, still around ?; please feel free to get back to me later on......
[16:06] <dougl> Is there a way to move the unity bar to the bottom of the screen?
[16:06] <gigenieks> theadmin: its not so easy ;)
[16:06] <exutux> Graciela: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-wireless-lucid-generic
[16:06] <edbian> dougl: no :(
[16:06] <sul4bh> hello all
[16:06] <Guest26485> how to configure 3g usb modem in ubuntu?
[16:06] <exutux> :o she's gone
[16:07] <Guest26485> ?
[16:07] <archman> upon upgrading to a new ubuntu release, will rhythmbox be replaced with banshee or can i keep it?
[16:07] <gigenieks> I can't install XP via Virtual Box using that iso. My guess it is not bootable.
[16:07] <archman> same for pidgin/empathy
[16:07] <Guest26485> how to configure 3g usb modem in ubuntu?
[16:07] <Guest26485> plz.. help
[16:08] <dougl> edbian, no - hmm, seems like such a basic thing to be missing/unable to do = thanks...
[16:08] <auronandace> archman: it won't uninstall whatever you have installed during an upgrade
[16:08] <theadmin> Guest26485: You should look "usb_modeswitch" up.
[16:08] <theadmin> gigenieks: Huh? It is.
[16:08] <edbian> archman: rhthmbox might be replaced with banshee but you can install it again (and have both or either one)
[16:08] <archman> auronandace: but it will add banshee even though i don't have it?
[16:08] <edbian> dougl: Yeah, unity is new
[16:08] <gigenieks> theadmin: bootable?
[16:09] <edbian> archman: I think it will add banshee yes
[16:09] <theadmin> gigenieks: Uhm... Well, I'm not sure how that's done... But I think all that's needed are proper files
[16:09] <edbian> archman: but you can remove ite
[16:09] <archman> hmm
[16:09] <theadmin> gigenieks: Anyway, I've got to head off for a while
[16:09] <edbian> archman: You'll have to update eventually
[16:09] <auronandace> archman: i think so yeah, but i usually stay away from upgrading (always better to do a clean install)
[16:09] <dougl> Is there a way to keep the unity bar visible/on top (turn off auto hide when window is occupying the same space)?
[16:09] <archman> edbian: i'm on lucid, so i'm cool till april 2013 :D
[16:09] <Guest26485> hey ubuntu s/w centre doesn't accpet universal proxy settings what to do?
[16:10] <gigenieks> theadmin: in translation you haven't got time now? I got this ---> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11150967&postcount=9
[16:10] <gigenieks> see attachment
[16:10] <edbian> archman: :)
[16:10] <Guest26485> hey ubuntu s/w centre doesn't accpet universal proxy settings what to do?
[16:11] <heckman> I asked the question earlier and didn't seem to get a response.  Any theories why 11
[16:11] <heckman> I asked the question earlier and didn't seem to get a response.  Any theories why 11.04 would have a lower frame rate than 10.10 even with the same ATi driver?
[16:11] <edbian> heckman: different version of the same driver?  Is it radeon?  ask in #radeon
[16:11] <sul4bh> I need to setup a disk indexer for searching.
[16:11] <Guest26485> can we do voice chat here?
[16:11] <heckman> edbian: I am installing driver directly from them, so same version of the driver.
[16:11] <sul4bh> Which indexer do you search ?
[16:12] <edbian> heckman: directly from 'them' ?
[16:12] <Herakles> ATI..
[16:12] <edbian> heckman: are you referring to fglrx ?
[16:12] <heckman> Affirmative
[16:13] <edbian> heckman: then I'm not sure.  Try the radeon driver, it's open source and it might work better
[16:14] <heckman> Nah, it was doing that tearing crap.  Hence the reason I had to jump to fglrx...
[16:18] <archman> is there a way to make apt-get ask for confirmation after issuing "aptitude install foo"?
[16:19] <famin> when I mount my windows partition only root can access, how can I get my normal user to be able to access it
[16:19] <theadmin> archman: aptitutde != apt-get
[16:19] <archman> theadmin: my bad, sorry, i meant apt-get install
[16:19] <theadmin> famin: The following line in your FStab should do: /dev/sdz500 /media/ntfs ntfs-3g user,defaults 0 0
[16:20] <theadmin> famin: Replace the device name and mount-point properly of course
[16:20] <khanx> whats the relation with aptitude ?
[16:20] <Elirips> Has anyone an idea, where gnome3 stores its settings? Everything works as a fresh user, but my old user only gets a 'failed to load session'
[16:20] <khanx> i cant see your point
[16:20] <x3n4> bug: i have disabled both 'gnome login sound' in startup applications & 'play log-in sound' in login screen settings - but the sound continues to be triggered at login! any ideas?
[16:21] <theadmin> khanx: Both aptitude and apt-get are package managers using dpkg. No relation between them whatsoever
[16:21] <khanx> oh reading his msg again, i understand it ok
[16:22] <axisys> how do I copy my home dir from my laptop to a attached usb flash disk fast? my laptop has 8G mem and it is running 64bit natty. use nautilus? rsync? lftp? it is about 350G folder with few 8G VMs and in total of 45000 files/folders
[16:22] <Braber01> Hi I'm not quite sure where to ask this but How to I set up Duel-Monters? (eg. Have one program on one screen and another program on the other?)
[16:22] <edbian> axisys: All those methods will take the same amount of time
[16:22] <theadmin> Braber01: There are quite a few programs for that. Twinview, xinerama...
[16:23] <Braber01> theadmin: Thank you very much
[16:23] <khanx> sudo cp ~ (flash disk directory)
[16:23] <theadmin> Braber01: I suppose you meant "Dual-Monitors" though
[16:23] <theadmin> Braber01: "duel" = "fight" xD
[16:23] <Braber01> yeah, the crazy thing is I can spell in Japanese, but not in English...
[16:24] <archman> is there a script checking user's hardware to tell if they'll be able to run unity 3d? (I guess i915 can run unity 2d?..)
[16:24] <khanx> dueru monitorusu
[16:24] <axisys> khanx: so I guess I do not know very well how cp works.. if it is using one session.. will it take advantage of memory to read and put it buffer and then write.. (learning)
[16:24] <theadmin> archman: You just need your card to have 3D acceleration
[16:24] <Redb3ard> is there  a way to configure xserver to open all on my desktop rather than all open on extra monitor?
[16:25] <khanx> well i dont know about it's memory usage im learning too =)
[16:25] <khanx> sorry
[16:25] <archman> theadmin: direct rendering is On.
[16:25] <archman> theadmin: from glxinfo
[16:25] <elik_> What's with ubuntuforums.org and all the locked threads (requiring login or something)
[16:25] <khanx> probably the guys in ##kernel could help
[16:25] <khanx> or somebody here
[16:26] <axisys> khanx: the ##kernel thing is for me?
[16:26] <x3n4> has anybody had problems with deactivating the login sound?
[16:27] <yeats> axisys: I would use rsync rather than cp
[16:27] <hexacode> hey you guys....u now when u turn on and boot up ubuntu, theres a black screen that pops up with some white text...where is the log located for this?
[16:27] <khanx> yeats,  is probably right
[16:27] <Redb3ard> everything i open, opens on my extra monitor (a tv) and i have to drag it over to my desktop.. is there any way to fix that?
[16:28] <archman> theadmin: so 11.04 live cd will definitely run with unity 3d on my machine? (if direct rendering is "Yes")
[16:28] <mgj> hexacode, you can try 'dmesg' or look around in /var/log
[16:28] <yeats> axisys: and I don't think there is a way to speed anything up, unfortunately - just give it a long time to finish
[16:28] <x3n4> i don't know how devs working on an allegedly mature distro can botch something this basic
[16:28] <hexacode> thanks
[16:29] <archman> x3n4: haha, many stuff like that, don't panic tho :)
[16:30] <archman> is there a way to change the title bar buttons size?
[16:31] <x3n4> sigh
[16:31] <axisys> yeats: ok
[16:32] <axisys> usb falsh drive mounted like this
[16:32] <axisys> dev/sdb1 on /media/My Passport type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush)
[16:32] <dAnjou> [natty] hi, i have "python-nautilus" installed and there is a working extension which uses the python module "nautilus" ("import nautilus"). but if i call "import nautilus" in the interactive python console, i get "ImportError: No module named nautilus". what's wrong there?
[16:32] <Redb3ard> need xserver help
[16:32] <axisys> does vfat support larger than 4G file?
[16:34] <dougl> is there a way to change the size of the unity bar icons so more icons/tasks fit on it?
[16:34] <yeats> axisys: no - you can only copy 4G at a time - you can use gparted to reformat it ext3
[16:34] <axisys> yeats: ok
[16:35] <yeats> axisys: note that ext3 would usually only be readable by Linux - NTFS would be another option if you need a Windows machine to use it
[16:35] <trism> dougl: you can shrink them a little bit in compizconfig-settings-manager in the unity plugin
[16:36] <axisys> i guess i will loose the data on usb if i convert the fs.. correct?
[16:36] <axisys> no problem.. just wonder
[16:36] <yeats> axisys: correct
[16:36] <axisys> yeats: thanks
[16:36] <dougl> trism, thanks for the info :)
[16:37] <Redb3ard> anyone here any good with setting up xserver for an accessory monitor?
[16:40] <dougl> trism, sorry to bug you... where do I find ccsm in 11.04
[16:40] <shinsuke> is there a way to use ustream with highquality under ubuntu?
[16:41] <edbian> dougl: system -> preferences
[16:41] <mgj> shinsuke, ustream is just flash, no? Shouldnt matter what your OS is, as long as your browser has flash support
[16:42] <gr72> mgj True
[16:42] <trism> dougl: or click the power button next to the clock, System Settings/CompizConfig Settings Manager
[16:42] <shinsuke> mgj, under windows you get a software that drastically improves your performance created by adobe themselves
[16:42] <dougl> edbian, I do not have a system preferences that I can see
[16:42] <trism> dougl: it isn't installed by default so you may need to install it first
[16:42] <hellothere> hello again
[16:43] <edbian> dougl: unity?
[16:43] <edbian> dougl: 11.04?
[16:43] <edbian> hellothere: hellothere!
[16:43] <dougl> trism, ah - ok I will install it = thanks
[16:43] <dougl> edbian, yep 11.04 unity
[16:43] <edbian> dougl: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:43] <archman> strange, i sometimes need to click twice on some link for it to open in an internet browser (firefox, chromium). and i have disabled ipv6 already...
[16:44] <hellothere> edbian: in the fullscreen terminal, if you do a help command like "ls --help", how do you slow down the scrool speed so that you can actually read the help text?
[16:44] <hdpb> I still have items from Thunderbird 3.3 (Shredder) showing up in unity dash when I type thunderbird, despite moving to 5. How do I get rid of it
[16:44] <dougl> edbian, trism - thanks for your help guys :)
[16:44] <edbian> dougl: sure
[16:44] <edbian> hellothere: shift + page up to scroll up (you can't slow it down)
[16:45] <hellothere> edbian: thanks! i didn't know that. :P
[16:45] <theadmin> edbian: Don't be so silly.
[16:45] <theadmin> hellothere: ls --help | less
[16:45] <theadmin> hellothere: scroll with arrows after that, exit with Q
[16:45] <hellothere> theadmin: i'll try that right now. :)
[16:46] <hellothere> theadmin: with the less command, do you actually get a "condensed" help file or you still get the full-blown manual thingy?
[16:47] <theadmin> hellothere: Um, well, --help just prints stuff, it's not a manual
[16:47] <theadmin> hellothere: You can use "man ls" to get a proper manual
[16:47] <hellothere> theadmin: kk.
[16:49] <dAnjou> solved
[16:50] <edbian> hellothere: the less command shows the end of the thing you're viewing and lets you scroll
[16:50] <hellothere> edbian: thanks!
[16:50] <hellothere> now another question :(
[16:50] <edbian> hellothere: or the beginning, whatever
[16:50] <edbian> hellothere: It's not a different version
[16:50] <edbian> hellothere: yes?
[16:50] <theadmin> edbian: It typically starts at the beginning.
[16:50] <edbian> theadmin: :P   There I am being silly again!
[16:51] <theadmin> edbian: Well happens
[16:51] <theadmin> edbian: You can't really remember, some pagers might start at end
[16:51] <theadmin> edbian: But not realizing that not all lines of a long output might fit in the terminal's buffer was weird of you xD
[16:52] <hellothere> i am wondering; is it possible to recover files from a linux partition if you lose access to the system? I heard that Linux uses encrtption in all of its "directories", unlike Windows?
[16:52] <edbian> theadmin: oh yeah,  good point
[16:52] <edbian> hellothere: There is no default encryption.
[16:52] <raven_> vbox: how to copy a real partition to a virtual partition file?
[16:53] <edbian> hellothere: If you 'lose access' it is impossible to read data off the drive
[16:53] <hellothere> edbian: so that means I can use a Live CD to recover files if I lose access to the installed system?
[16:53] <edbian> hellothere: if you have physical access but forgot the password you can boot a liveCD
[16:53] <edbian> hellothere: beat me too it.  Yes :)
[16:54] <edbian> hellothere: You can use a liveCD to get access to any files on any computer that aren't encrypted
[16:54] <dougl> Oh no...
[16:54] <edbian> dougl: oh no?
[16:54] <hellothere> edbian: kk :). I thought I read some randam Red Hat thing where you can only recover files if you have "linked ownership/permissions" to the locked out system, and thought it applied to all other distros
[16:54] <raven_> vbox: how to copy a real partition to a virtual partition file?
[16:54] <dougl> I enabled desktop cube which disabled unity and now I cannot get unity back
[16:55] <edbian> hellothere: I don't think that's even true in red hat / fedora.  That's only true if encryption is used.  It doesn't depend on distro
[16:55] <hellothere> edbian: kk thanks
[16:55] <edbian> hellothere: sure
[16:55] <Tiana> Hello. I'm trying to restore data to a palm pilot. When I hit the hot-sync button, I see in /var/log/messages "new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 8", and I see /dev/bus/usb/003/008 created. But when I use that device as the -p option to pilot-xfer, it says that it cannot bind to the port. What device do I need to use here?
[16:56] <edbian> dougl: what do you mean 'unity' is disabled. Can you be more explicit about what is missing
[16:56] <W3ird_N3rd> does anyone accidentally know a simple FTP server for Ubuntu?
[16:57] <edbian> W3ird_N3rd: accidentally ?
[16:57] <skegeek> What's a good minimum amount of memory (ram, vid) for a multi-site web hosting server using both Apache and nGinx?
[16:57] <W3ird_N3rd> I haven't found one in all the years I've used linux and don't know if there are many people around here who use ftp, edbian
[16:57] <W3ird_N3rd> I just want to enter user, pass, maybe port, boom! FTP.
[16:57] <trism> dougl: if you can get a terminal, you can try: unity --reset;
[16:57] <w30> dougl, if you log out then log back in Unity will take over again, it uses a different cong file than the cssm or what ever the compiz config uses
[16:58] <skegeek> It would be run primarily on localhost, other than for syncing updates/changes.
[16:58] <dougl> edbian, enabling cube disable desktop wall that unity depended on so now unity is disabled,
[16:58] <edbian> w30: vsftp
[16:58] <hellothere> edbian: bye. thanks for the help
[16:58] <hellothere> theadmin: thanks for your help too!
[16:58] <W3ird_N3rd> on Windows I know filezilla and slimftpd can do that, for linux..
[16:58] <W3ird_N3rd> edbian, I'll look at it, I just hope it's really simple
[16:58] <W3ird_N3rd> I want a 1-minute FTP-server
[16:58] <edbian> dougl: I was confused about what you meant by 'unity'
[16:58] <edbian> W3ird_N3rd: those are clients, not servers
[16:59] <W3ird_N3rd> edbian, slimftpd is an FTP server in 25KB, filezilla server is.. well just an FTP server that you can setup with little hassle
[16:59] <theadmin> edbian: FileZilla has a server too, for Windows only
[16:59] <W3ird_N3rd> but both windows-only
[16:59] <dougl> trism, w30 restarting machine did it - thanks guys = I better stop messing around, lol
[16:59] <muneeb> what is setuid? how do i run 'ifconfig' without being superuser (or without using sudo)?
[16:59] <theadmin> muneeb: You can't
[17:00] <w30> dougl,  I guess you can now play and not pay :=)
[17:00] <edbian> muneeb: setuid is a bit set on executable files (not scripts) then makes the file run as the owner of the file (regardless of who ran it)
[17:01] <dougl> w30, :)
[17:01] <edbian> muneeb: ping has setuid set
[17:02] <muneeb> edbian, can i do something with ifconfig's setuid so i can run it as normal user?
[17:02] <edbian> muneeb: yes, it's probably a security issue.  You have to be root to setuid on it though
[17:02] <W3ird_N3rd> edbian, is there an FTP server that's even more simple?
[17:02] <edbian> W3ird_N3rd: I'm not sure
[17:03] <muneeb> edbian, how do i do that if i have root access
[17:03] <W3ird_N3rd> it's one of the few things I'm missing on Linux. Just enter user, pass and dir somewhere (no problem to do that in a configfile) and boom
[17:03] <edbian> muneeb: hang lemme look it up
[17:03] <muneeb> edbian, okay.. i'll wait
[17:04] <edbian> muneeb: sudo chmod 4755 /path/to/ifconfig
[17:04] <edbian> muneeb: I'm not sure where it is
[17:04] <nc__> dou shui?
[17:05] <theadmin> edbian: Likely /usr/bin.
[17:05] <oCean> !cn | nc__
[17:05] <muneeb> edbian, thanks! can you point me where i can learn about that number 4? i know about 755
[17:05] <edbian> theadmin: /usr/sbin  ?
[17:05] <theadmin> edbian: Only critical system binaries are in /bin, other stuff is in /usr/bin. Or sometimes /sbin and /usr/sbin, yeah...
[17:05] <edbian> muneeb: I'm a google bot!   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid
[17:05] <edbian> theadmin: :)
[17:06] <muneeb> edbian, okay.. fine :) thanks
[17:06] <axisys> yeats: man.. it takes very long time to convert 1Tb disk to ext3 fs.. wish zfs or btrfs only in natty :-)
[17:06] <potatoe> I want to run a program from the command line and I want a list of all png files that are opened during execution. I tried lsof -r | grep png$, but it missed files because the program went to quickly. Any ideas ?
[17:06] <edbian> muneeb: :)
[17:06] <axisys> converting to zfs fs takes about 1 sec
[17:06] <axisys> s/only in/already in/
[17:07] <eFfeM> hi, is it possible to configure 11.04 with gnome2 so it keeps the desktop (including apps) during reboot? I've used opensuse before and there the apps that were open when shutting down would be restarted on the next boot, but can't manage to get this on 11.04
[17:07] <TYDIRocks> Could someone maybe help me connect to my wifi network. I'm not exactly sure how to
[17:07] <edbian> TYDIRocks: hi :)
[17:07] <TYDIRocks> edbian, hey again
[17:08] <edbian> TYDIRocks: do the networks show in the applet for you?  (didn't we fix this?)
[17:08] <TYDIRocks> edbian, I've installed it on my laptop now, ethernet works fine but I'm wanting to use wifi now
[17:08] <edbian> TYDIRocks: are wifi networks listed in the applet?
[17:08] <TYDIRocks> edbian, the thing you click in the top right? No.
[17:09] <edbian> TYDIRocks: PM me?
[17:09] <TYDIRocks> edbian, huh?
[17:12] <theadmin> edbian: What is that for?
[17:12] <theadmin> edbian: It's an Ubuntu tradition to provide help inside the channel, rather than in PM
[17:12] <asher^> hi all. im having a problem:  fatal error: curl/curl.h: No such file or directory. curl and libcurl are installed. any ideas?
[17:13] <herrgabriel> I have a dual monitor set up on ubuntu 11.04 (unity). Is it possible to remove the indicators from the secondary monitor?
[17:13] <|Slacker|> asher^: have you tried ldconfig?
[17:14] <asher^> |Slacker| no, im a linux noob. whats that?
[17:16] <|Slacker|> asher^: it updates the libraries links
[17:16] <roo45> Hey everyone. I'm having a problem with UI elements becoming unresponsive. It effects virtually everything (windows, icons, menus) sporadically (i.e. some things work, others don't). It happens on both Unity and GNOME 2. Starts immediately after login. Any ideas?
[17:16] <theadmin> |Slacker|: apt-get runs that automatically, one shouldn't really bother to manually do it
[17:17] <|Slacker|> theadmin: oh...that's very true...I just forgot bout that..I'm still haven't gotten rid of my slackware style :p
[17:17]  * |Slacker| is not that used to apt-get yet
[17:17] <slacker_nl> in that case, use aptitude ;)
[17:17] <|Slacker|> i use the software center
[17:18] <judgen> Is there a working package for "twin" somewhere for natty? I can not seem tobe able to compile it from source.
[17:18] <asher^> |Slacker| i ran it, but i still get the same error
[17:18] <maujhsn> Hello! I am in ~/var/log/syslog. my file are archived as far as syslog.7.gz. THE FILE APPEARS TO BE A BINARY FILE. HOW CAN I MAKE IT READABLE?
[17:19] <C_Smith> hey, I'm trying to transfer videos to my Ipod Nano 5g and I keep getting a no converter found for it error, this is even after installing the Ubuntu Restricted Extras, what packages would I need to install to fix this? I've tried Google, and that was of no help.
[17:19] <oCean> maujhsn: it is compressed. Use   zcat /var/log/syslog.7.gz | less
[17:19] <slacker_nl> maujhsn: gzip -dc /var/log/syslog7.gz | less :)
[17:19] <maujhsn> slacker_nl are you sure?
[17:20] <oCean> maujhsn: I am sure
[17:20] <slacker_nl> maujhsn: yes
[17:20] <slacker_nl> well, except for the typo in the name
[17:21] <maujhsn> slacker_nl What does the "less" option do?
[17:21] <slacker_nl> maujhsn: gzip -d is decompress, the -c is output to stdout (or char to stdout) and the | less will make sure you can actually read it :)
[17:21] <slacker_nl> maujhsn: less is a pager
[17:21] <slacker_nl> maujhsn: same as more
[17:21] <Peyam> Hej
[17:22] <slacker_nl> maujhsn: man less and/or man more, tho less is more
[17:22] <Peyam> I got problem with the noice
[17:22] <Peyam> I can here anythin
[17:23] <trism> maujhsn: there is also: zless /var/log/syslog.7.gz;
[17:24] <maujhsn> slacker_nl This stuff is interesting! One other question! Would ~/var/log/syslog.7.gz? Be the oldest my oldest syslog file?
[17:24] <Richiie> Hello im wondering if you install ubuntu 10.04 and have an ATI graphic card in your computer, what will the standard (default) graphic drivers be? is it Vesa Generic ? or am i wrong
[17:25] <theadmin> Richiie: I think it's fglrx
[17:26] <Richiie> theadmin: because i need to know what the default drivers are
[17:26] <Richiie> and i dont mean the one's that "Jockey" provide, AKA "Additional drivers"
[17:26] <Richiie> i mean standard installed drivers on ubuntu 10.04 whit a ATI card
[17:26] <maujhsn> slacker_nl  They are labeled 1 through 7!
[17:27] <archman> theadmin: 11.10 unity indeed looks and runs nice on this i915 driver :)
[17:27] <Richiie> theadmin: are you sure it is fglrx?
[17:28] <theadmin> Richiie: I'm not.
[17:29] <Richiie> theadmin: because i followed this link here, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide
[17:29] <maujhsn> trism Thanks for the info!
[17:29] <Richiie> and if i run glxinfo | grep VGA
[17:29] <Richiie> my output is
[17:29] <slacker_nl> maujhsn: have a look at the /etc/logrotate.d directory
[17:30] <Richiie> theadmin: r300: DRM version: 2.0.0, Name: ATI R430, ID: 0x554d, GB: 4, Z: 1
[17:30] <Richiie> r300: GART size: 509 MB, VRAM size: 256 MB
[17:30] <Richiie> r300: AA compression: NO, Z compression: NO, HiZ: NO
[17:30] <slacker_nl> maujhsn: all log files in /var/log are rotated, and logrotate is the thing that makes that happen
[17:30] <Richiie> the only problems i got that im concerned about is that if i run a video file in mplayer vlc or whatever, the screen gets green
[17:30] <macintosh> Hello there, I am newbie. Some of my friends told me that I can use ubuntu to crack wifi. Are there anyone here know to do that?
[17:31] <Richiie> but i have made an "temprarily fix" by switching the output module in VLC to something else and then it works but mplayer the movie is like green bars and green flattering on the screen and i dont know why so i want to switch back to the default graphic drivers but dont know how to do it.
[17:31] <maujhsn> slacker_nl I will check into that!
[17:31] <mgj> macintosh, aircrack-ng
[17:31] <oCean> macintosh: please note that all illegal activities are offtopic
[17:32] <mgj> Doing a favour for humanity. Noone should be using WEP :P
[17:32] <macintosh> mgj, how can I run that?
[17:32] <mgj> macintosh, google
[17:32] <mgj> i will not help you break into wifi networks
[17:32] <macintosh> mgj, thanks
[17:32] <pasqoo> #join ubuntu-it
[17:32] <pasqoo> oops
[17:33] <maujhsn>  slacker_nl Would logrotate be a directory?
[17:33] <Richiie> does anyone know how i can easily switch back my graphic card drivers to the default ubuntu 10.04 ones ?
[17:33] <Richiie> that came by default.
[17:33] <roo45> Anyone know how to fix a broken UI? Many elements are completely unresponsive. Mouse always works. Logging into a new user fixes the problem. Corrupt file somewhere? All the info I have about it is here http://bit.ly/mYk3vu.
[17:35] <pasqoo> Richiie you can try going to System / Administration / Additional Drivers and remove that one, if it's installed
[17:35] <Richiie> pasqoo: i did never have anything in my "Additional driver"
[17:35] <Richiie> i installed drivers manually this way
[17:35] <Richiie> pasqoo: look here.
[17:35] <Richiie> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide#Installing_Open_Source_Edge_Drivers
[17:35] <Richiie> pasqoo: X-teams PPA
[17:36] <pasqoo> I'm reading
[17:37] <pasqoo> Richiie did you follow the "manual" way? Downloading the drivers from Ati website, etc?
[17:37] <Nisarg> I wanted to know how to get ubuntu to detect the usr/lib/jvm folder for java. I copy pasted it from another computer.
[17:38] <pasqoo> Richiie , did you follow this part of the guide? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_drivers_manually
[17:38] <gnaruag> Hello , i am trying to transfer the data from ubuntu 10.04 to ubuntu 10.10 but failed , samba is installed , whenever I go to  "Network" , it doesn't show the other's machine's name . I am using normal LAN wire
[17:38] <Richiie> pasqoo: no i followed "install X-team swat" that part of the guide
[17:39] <Richiie> and i followed Installing Open Source Edge Drivers
[17:39] <Richiie> but i removed both those repo lists unfortunatily i cant get aticonfig to work neither catalyst :(
 Hello , i am trying to transfer the data from ubuntu 10.04 to ubuntu 10.10 but failed , samba is installed , whenever I go to  "Network" , it doesn't show the other's machine's name . I am using normal LAN wire  , Please suggest what should I do in order to make the transfer happen
[17:39] <Richiie> so i want to revert back to the absolute original 10.04 graphic drivers that i had when i installed my system.
[17:39] <Nisarg> is someone having problems with ATI radeon card. Try disabling the vertical refresh in OpenGL from CCSM
[17:39] <Nisarg> worked for me! :)
[17:39] <pasqoo> Then you only have to do sudo apt-get remove fglrx Richiie
[17:40] <Richiie> Nisarg: CCSM you mean compiz ?
[17:40] <Nisarg> ya
[17:40] <Richiie> Nisarg: im having big time problems whit my ATI :(
[17:40] <Nisarg> uncheck the box for compiz with the drivers enabled
[17:40] <Richiie> where in CCSM do i find it ?
[17:41] <Nisarg> restart, worked fine for me. Let me guess, you are having really low frame rate right?
[17:41] <Nisarg> go to the software center
[17:41] <Nisarg> type ccsm, and download it
[17:41] <Richiie> Nisarg: nah, im having like 5200 in Frames if i run glxgears
[17:41] <Richiie> but the problems i have is that i followed this guide,
[17:41] <Richiie> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide#Ubuntu_X_Team.27s_PPA
[17:42] <Richiie> followed installation whit both Open source Edge drivers and "Ubuntu X Teams PP'a"
[17:42] <w30> roo45, rather than spend all that time trying to fix it, I would just copy the new user home directory over yours and change the owner group to match you
[17:42] <nimbiotics> i downloaded latest version of vuze for linux, but it will not work, i'm getting the error messages show at (http://paste.ubuntu.com/665406/), can someone help me get this fixed? TIA!
[17:42] <Richiie> the problems occured to me was that when i installed this drivers i did not manage to open catalyst control center and i was like hey wtf :S
[17:42] <Nisarg> oh, i am no expert. sorry, i cant help!
[17:43] <Richiie> and problems im having is when i look at a movie for example in VLC or mplayer i see green bars all over the screen,
[17:43] <pasqoo> Richiie is your graphic card supported? There's a red part in that webpage that lists the supported graphic cards by Catalyst
[17:43] <Richiie> and like green colour over the movie and it's really annoying i managed to temporarily fix it
[17:43] <Richiie> pasqoo: yes my graphic card is suppored i have Sapphire radeon X800 XL
[17:44] <Nisarg> can someone tell me how to let ubuntu know that I have copy pasted the jvm folder for JAVA.
[17:44] <Richiie> according to that site it shoudlnt be any problems but im having big problems that catalyst does not even work when i followed that guide... if i try to start aticonfig both from my menu or from terminal it prompts
[17:44] <Richiie> "no valid ati device found"
[17:44] <Richiie> and i can confirm that i have an ati radeon x800XL card whit lspci | grep VGA
[17:44] <pasqoo> Richiie this page says your card isn't supported: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/9.4
[17:45] <Richiie> pasqoo: "RADEON X 800 Series"
[17:45] <Richiie> my card is radeon X800XL
[17:45] <pasqoo> It's part of the X800 series
[17:45] <roo45> w30: Do you mean, copy my data to the new user home directory? If I copy over the new user directory to mine, won't it replace all my data? Or am I misunderstanding you?
[17:45] <Richiie> yeah so? of cource it should be supported, but not by catalyst control center unfortunatly
[17:46] <Richiie> but hey how can i revert my drivers back to the official default ones ?
[17:46] <pasqoo> Richiie it means you're limited to open-source drivers, you can't use proprietary drivers.
[17:46] <Richiie> pasqoo: yes i understand that
[17:47] <Richiie> pasqoo: how can i check which drivers are currently running on my system ?
[17:47] <pasqoo> Richiie try glxinfo
[17:47] <Sub_Zero> Is it possible to remove the entries in the right click menu in Nautilus entitled 'Copy to' and 'Move to' Like to keep my right click menu nice and compact.
[17:47] <venu> i just now installed ubuntu and connected to internet via wifi but when i try to update packages it is showing error----can some one help me on this
[17:48] <Richiie> glxinfo | grep VGA ?
[17:48] <Richiie> pasqoo: theese are my drivers now.
[17:48] <Richiie> r300: DRM version: 2.0.0, Name: ATI R430, ID: 0x554d, GB: 4, Z: 1
[17:48] <Richiie> r300: GART size: 509 MB, VRAM size: 256 MB
[17:48] <Richiie> r300: AA compression: NO, Z compression: NO, HiZ: NO
[17:48] <Richiie> i think that drivers is the edge ones, and not the one from swat PPA
[17:49] <Richiie> pasqoo: how can i whit the easiest way just remove this PPA and revert back to the default graphic drivers ?
[17:49] <pasqoo> Richiie follow this part to clean your system: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide#Removing_the_Driver
[17:50] <Richiie> pasqoo: alright are u sure that will work ?
[17:50] <DERBIER>  hello
[17:50] <DERBIER> i need help
[17:50] <Richiie> is the default drivers installed by default when removing all thoose entries ?
[17:50] <DERBIER>  hello
[17:50] <DERBIER> i need help
[17:51] <Nisarg> DERBIER: ask questions directly
[17:51] <DERBIER> somebody know if ubuntu 10.10 uses compiz
[17:51] <Richiie> pasqoo: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core
[17:51] <Nisarg> DERBIER: i think it does, yes
[17:51] <Richiie> pasqoo: Reinstallation of libgl1-mesa-glx is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[17:51] <Richiie> ??
[17:51] <pasqoo> Richiie you installed the proprietary drivers (x team blabla) so you got to remove them. did you try sudo apt-get remove fglrx?
[17:52] <DERBIER> Nisarg: but deskrtop wall do not work
[17:52] <Richiie> pasqoo: yeah its gone now but when following the part of that guide that you mentioned i get this...
[17:52] <Richiie> pasqoo: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core
[17:52] <Richiie> pasqoo: Reinstallation of libgl1-mesa-glx is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[17:52] <Richiie> ???
[17:53] <venu> i need to install a kmplayer to ubuntu can any one help me
[17:53] <pasqoo> try adding the repositories again, Richiie , or try searching those packages in synaptic... with similar names
[17:54] <usermanager> i downloaded version 11.04 and copy it to a cd
[17:54] <usermanager> when restart it wont boot to the cd
[17:54] <usermanager> what could be the problem
[17:54] <DERBIER> i have a quesiton
[17:55] <DERBIER> i hate untiy can i use 10.10 or did it not rent
[17:55] <pasqoo> usermanager you don't have to burn the iso file into a cd, you have to open it as an image with some cd burning software
[17:55] <Nisarg> usermanager: I dont think just copying helps.
[17:55] <W3ird_N3rd> DERBIER, when logging in, use "Ubuntu classic (no effects)"
[17:55] <Nisarg> DERBIER: you can switch to Ubuntu classic
[17:55] <usermanager> oh my god
[17:56] <DERBIER> i have a problem with ubuntu 11.04 ciompi so classic do not help me
[17:56] <W3ird_N3rd> DERBIER, go to System>Administration>Login Screen (euhm.. go to login screen somehow, however that's done on unity)
[17:56] <usermanager> i copy the whole file into it
[17:56] <DERBIER> i have a problem with ubuntu 11.04 compiz so classic do not help me
[17:56] <Hachya> usermanager: yeah u need to burn the iso with a program...
[17:56] <Nisarg> usermanager: nopse, wont work that way. If you are on windows now, try wubi
[17:56] <W3ird_N3rd> DERBIER, I don't understand, you said you hate unity, I explain how to turn it off?
[17:57] <usermanager> what's the most popular app for doing that
[17:57] <Hachya> usermanager: or MagicISO shoud let you
[17:57] <Richiie> pasqoo: nope :/
[17:57] <Richiie> cant make it to get default ones.
[17:57] <usermanager> ubuntu app
[17:57] <venu> how to install updates to  ubuntu 9.04 please help me on this
[17:58] <Nisarg> okay seriously. someone tell me how to get ubuntu to see java when i copy pasted the jvm folder from my other ubuntu computer
[17:58] <pasqoo> venu sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:58] <Hachya> usermanager: ahhh....umm...when u put the disc in there should be an option for using CD/DVD creator...which should let you
[17:58] <kyan> Hello! How can I open a file made by dding and splitting a device file? Thanks.
[17:59] <kyan> Basically it's an 80 gig backup split into  about a hundred parts
[17:59] <Hachya> then right click the ISO, and open with CD/DVD creator, should let you burn it
[17:59] <venu> pasqoo: but it is giving error like
[17:59] <venu> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[17:59] <usermanager> hachya how to erase the data on the disc ?
[18:00] <Hachya> usermanager: u need to use a blank disc
[18:00] <usermanager> cos i created a bootable dos on it
[18:00] <Nisarg> usermanager: is that a rewritable dics? else you will have to get a new one
[18:00] <usermanager> it's a rw one
[18:00] <Hachya> usermanager: right, if CDRW u can erase it and write over, unless CD-R u can use only once
[18:00] <auronandace> !9.04 | venu
[18:00] <usermanager> so how to erase it
[18:01] <pasqoo> venu it means that at least one of your repository entries don't exist anymore
[18:01] <roo45> w30: Still there, or no?
[18:01] <Hachya> usermanager: I believe CDRWs can be erased or written OVER once in CD-DVD creator..
[18:01] <pasqoo> venu try google :D other people got your same problem
[18:01] <venu> yes auronandace
[18:02] <auronandace> venu: so 9.04 is no longer supported
[18:02] <venu> ok
[18:02] <venu> then how to upgade that one
[18:03] <Nisarg> venu : I think you have the option to upgrade in the update manager
[18:03] <auronandace> !eol | venu
[18:03] <auronandace> venu: i'd really recomend a fresh install though
[18:03] <Nisarg> venu: ya seriously, just get the new image
[18:04] <Hachya> venu: absolutely do a fresh install, it'll save MANY potential headaches
[18:04] <pfred1> Hachya what are you running Windows?
[18:04] <venu> ok
[18:04] <Hachya> pfred1: on which machine...
[18:05] <pfred1> Hachya anywhere with advise like do a fresh install
[18:05] <Hachya> pfred1: it can happen on any OS< had it happen when upgrading ubuntu as well....it's a rare occasion, but can happen
[18:05] <xkira> ;o
[18:05] <Hachya> pfred1: that sentence made no sense
[18:05] <pfred1> Hachya it hasn't happened to me in 16 years of running Linux
[18:05] <pasqoo> !11.04
[18:06] <Hachya> okay, unless he's upgrading from within a version, which should be okay, jumping major releases  would be safer by wiping...this is only from the expeirrences I've had, running server, now for a workstation, probably not, doesn't matter...
[18:07] <kyan> Where would it be best for me to post that question? Thanks.
[18:07] <celeryman> ubuntu 11.10, lightdm login... can login as guest, but not as user, acts like a soft restart then takes me back to login... any ideas? thanks
[18:08] <kyan> I'll post it to the mail-list too
[18:08] <auronandace> !11.10 | celeryman
[18:09] <pfred1> ubuntu is running so good on this laptop live distro i may just run with it but I ran into one little snag with the wireless networking
[18:09] <pfred1> if I am connected wired first then put in my WEP then disconnect the wire ubuntu is offline
[18:09] <usermanager> thansk guys bye
[18:10] <pasqoo> I got problems with wireless too. I'm always connected, but sometimes it's like my connection to my router is lost. I just don't get any packet from it. Then it starts working again. All this without loosing the connection
[18:10] <pfred1> I just booted the CD with no net cable then entered the key and I'm obviously online now so it isn't the wireless doesn't work it is a routing issue
[18:11] <pfred1> pasqoo I'm getting pretty good speed wireless i'm liking it
[18:12] <venu> thanks you gays pasqoo,auronandace,Nisarg,ubottu,Hachya i all ways did not like to use ubuntu but i really don't know this much support we will get in ubuntu then on-words i will use "Thanks For Your Help Buddy"
[18:12] <pasqoo> I don't have speed problem. Sometimes it's like I'm not even connected to my router (can't ping it) even if my applet on gnome says I'm connected with highest signal
[18:12] <pfred1> there has to be somewhere in some menu someplace where I can update my routing table
[18:12] <Hachya> XD np
[18:13] <xkira> yo everyone
[18:14] <pasqoo> gogo venu do your backup and install the new ubuntu :P
[18:14] <munzxttt> hi! everybody!! .. i was here yday asking why i get 2 users when i run "uptime" in terminal .... now when i run it iget 3 users despite there is only 1 terminal open ... when i run "W" i get my name 3 time! ... is it ok or there is something wrong here!?? help plz!
[18:15] <venu> i now only downloading it will complete in 50min
[18:15] <venu> i did not have dvd can i able to install from pendrive
[18:15] <yeats> munzxttt: in a terminal, type 'who'
[18:15] <pfred1> munzxttt I have 8 users on a live distro
[18:16] <pfred1> yeats that is exactly what i just did!
[18:16] <munzxttt> yeats: i got my name 3 times just like "w"
[18:16] <auronandace> venu: yes, there are various ways to install
[18:16] <auronandace> !install | venu
[18:16] <munzxttt> pfred1: i did not get u! ... sorry! i am new to linux!
[18:16] <pfred1> munzxttt unless they're not you I wouldn't worry about it too much
[18:17] <pfred1> munzxttt this machine is running off an ubuntu CD in live distribution mode
[18:17] <munzxttt> pfred1 : i am worried that some 1 else have some access to the system!! ... as i told u am just new here!
[18:18] <pfred1> munzxttt which is to say it is about as vanilla as it gets so multiple users is pretty commonplace in Linux
[18:18] <yeats> munzxttt: 'who' or 'w' show you who is logged in.  "users" in UNIX/Linux are not necessarily people
[18:19] <pfred1> munzxttt like every terminal you start every background terminal they're all copies of you so to speak
[18:19] <auronandace> munzxttt: can you pastebin the output of who
[18:19] <munzxttt> auronandace : sure!
[18:20] <munzxttt> auronandace : sorry! may i have the link!?!!
[18:20] <pfred1> munzxttt if you're really paranoid run this http://www.ethereal.com/download.html
[18:21] <auronandace> !paste | munzxttt
[18:23] <munzxttt> auronandace : i am not sure where to paste the output!
[18:23] <jnsl_> Im running ubuntu server on an amazon micro instance, if i do "free -m" i get Mem free: 253.. i desperately need to free more memory in order to run an application called confluence. Anyone have good advice on freeing memory ? Maybe there is a good article on it ?
[18:24] <dr_willis> jnsl_,  make a swap file?
[18:24] <pfred1> dr_willis :)
[18:24] <jnsl_> dr_willis how can i do that?: )
[18:24] <BugeyeD> hi all, recommendation requested ... in-laws are currently running 9.10 ... i'm about to take to them a newer computer and want to give them 11.04. how do i best retain their "stuff" ?
[18:24] <pfred1> buy more RAM!
[18:24] <auronandace> munzxttt: paste it in http://paste.ubuntu.com then paste the url here
[18:24] <BugeyeD> two options are to simply install new and copy over their entire home directories. but i worry that if i don't upgrade in-place their home directory / settings / preferences will not correctly be updated for 11.04 ... anyone?
[18:24] <iridium> jnsl_, pastebin of mem
[18:24] <jnsl_> 1 sec
[18:25] <pfred1> jnsl_ I setup a box here that'll run X in 32Mb RAM
[18:25] <yeats> BugeyeD: I recommend fresh install and copying the data over to the new installation
[18:25] <dr_willis> jnsl_,  just a few commands.. id have to google for 'make swap file linux';
[18:25] <munzxttt> auronandace : thanks! ... here is the link ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/665925/
[18:25] <pfred1> mkswap isn't it?
[18:25] <jnsl_> http://pastebin.com/v3r8KYYT
[18:26] <BugeyeD> yeats: how would updates to the older prefs/settings take place that way?
[18:26] <safees> k;
[18:26] <auronandace> munzxttt: yeah, thats all normal
[18:26] <dr_willis> You make a proper file, then use mkswap on the file, then you activate it.. its not that hard jnsl_  . I just rarely need to do it. :)
[18:26] <iridium> jnsl_, make a swap as other says
[18:26] <iridium> but your usage isn't that intensive
[18:27] <jnsl_> Sweet!! thanks a lot :) i will try that right now
[18:27] <iridium> (at least now)
[18:27] <markskilbeck> Hi, all. If I use the Connect to Server dialog, what is the path I use on my local machine to access the server?
[18:27] <pfred1> dr_willis Linux if funny even if you have gobs of RAM it still seems to like having a swap file anyways you could always make one in a RAMdisk if performance is an issue
[18:27] <markskilbeck> I can see the location in Places, but not through any filesystem means
[18:28] <munzxttt> auronandace : yeats : pfred1 : thanks guys!
[18:28] <pfred1> munzxttt install etherape
[18:28] <pfred1> munzxttt it is fun to watch
[18:28] <munzxttt> pfred1 : i am trying to do this now :)
[18:29] <pfred1> munzxttt etehrape is prettier than ethereal is
[18:30] <auronandace> munzxttt: sudo apt-get install etherape
[18:30] <pfred1> auronandace fun with torrents
[18:31] <munzxttt> auronandace : thanks! just was  about to ask how to install it :)
[18:31] <auronandace> munzxttt: no worries
[18:31] <pfred1> munzxttt then you can keep an eye on network connections
[18:32] <dr_willis> pfred1,  every so often i see some thread on the topic. Hacvent really  paid attention to it since ive got 4gb ram on most of my box's these days
[18:32] <auronandace> munzxttt: whenever you install anything make sure you check if it is available in the ubuntu repos (etherape is)
[18:32] <munzxttt> auronandace : pfred : thanks guys u r doing awesome job ... keep it up! plz!  :)
[18:32] <pfred1> dr_willis yeah swapfile almost seems like an evolutionary vestage I always make one though
[18:33] <pfred1> dr_willis remember the old swapfile sizing rule twice your RAM?
[18:33] <dr_willis> pfred1,  put it on a network share. :) or in your UbuntuOne directory!
[18:34] <dr_willis> pfred1,  i have a Timex Sinclare 1000 :) i rember the old days..
[18:34] <yeats> BugeyeD: settings will be preserved - you can always remove the .gnome* folders if settings conflict with the new version
[18:34] <pfred1> dr_willis I've seen that lead to some confusion
[18:35] <pfred1> dr_willis but did you hack your keyboard matrix to get a surplus radio shack keyboard to work on yours?
[18:35] <roo45> Hi all. I'm getting a lot of frozen UI elements (windows, buttons, icons, etc.). Things freeze sporadically starting immediately after I log in. Logging in to a new user fixes the problem temporarily, even on my old account. Does anyone know what the problem might be?
[18:35] <pfred1> roo45 bad caps on your motherboard
[18:36] <dr_willis> roo45,  you may want to be doing a memtest to check that out.  and monitor dmesg output when it happens.
[18:36] <pfred1> roo45 compile a kernel in the terminal see if it keeps messing up
[18:36] <munzxttt> pfred1 : auronandace : ops! when i run etherape i get an error msg "error getting device : no suitable device found"
[18:36] <pfred1> dr_willis bad caps will pass a memtest but not a kernel compile
[18:37] <quatrox> pote: maybe some of the ~/.* needs to be removed
[18:37] <dr_willis> seems a bit extreme to jump to 'its bad caps...' befor doing a much simpiler memtest...
[18:37] <pfred1> dr_willis don't ask me how i know this :)
[18:37] <roo45> dr_willis: I did a memtest at boot, it came back fine. I've also done a badblocks test and it was fine. Booting from the LiveCD also works fine. I can do the memtest again if you think it will help.
[18:37] <Henriquez> Does anyone know if ardour can work with sound over an HDMI cable ?
[18:37] <pfred1> dr_willis i had one bad board ran memtest for 6 hours on it no sweat fell apart inside of 10 minutes compiling a kernel
[18:37] <Henriquez> i keep getting errors
[18:38] <dr_willis> roo45,  a memtest for how long.. also alternative testing of various live cd's to see if the issue affects them. would point into it being either an OS issue..or a hardware issue.
[18:38] <BugeyeD> yeats: alrighty, then. will give it a shot this afternoon.
[18:38] <quatrox> pote: try mkdir ~/t && mv ~/.g* ~/t/
[18:38] <pfred1> dr_willis memtest won't stress your system enough
[18:38] <auronandace> munzxttt: what are you using? wireless or ethernet? try launching it with etherape eth0 (if you are using wired)
[18:38] <dr_willis> roo45,  whats your video chipset? the live cd  may be using differnt video drivers.
[18:39] <roo45> dr_willis: I selected memtest86+ at boot
[18:39] <dr_willis> roo45,  for how long did you run it?
[18:40] <roo45> dr_willis: nvidia GTX 460 GPU. Custom drivers probably weren't installed on the LiveCD, but they are on the second user account where things are working.
[18:40] <roo45> dr_willis: I let the memtest run until it said it had completed.
[18:40] <roo45> It said there were no errors.
[18:41] <jasonmsp> I';ve been running 11.04 for about a week.  Watched some DVDs using movieplayer and today it is not working at all.  Any ideas?
[18:41] <roo45> dr_willis: probably took about 2 hours?
[18:41] <munzxttt> auronandace : i am using this wireless!
[18:41] <pfred1> munzxttt wlan0 instead of eth0 then
[18:41] <micka> how i mask my ip ?
[18:42] <auronandace> munzxttt: what is the output of ifconfig?
[18:42] <micka> hey
[18:42] <yeats> !cloak | micka
[18:42] <micka> no, in chat
[18:42] <yeats> micka: er... that is for chat ;-)
[18:43] <roo45> pfred1: what do you mean by compile a kernel in the terminal? Or rather, how do I do this, and what does it show?
[18:43] <micka> im french
[18:43] <pfred1> roo45 if your hardware is OK
[18:43] <munzxttt> pfred1 : is this a command to run in terminal!? .. sorry! noop!
[18:43] <micka> yon can tell me how i do
[18:43] <yeats> !fr | micka
[18:44] <dr_willis> roo45,  so a second user account works totally fine?
[18:44] <juan23_98> Hello, everybody. How can I launch xChat directly from an irc:// link in Chrome?
[18:44] <micka> !fr
[18:44] <pfred1> roo45 I had one box was giving me all sorts of strange problems turns out the motherboard had died
[18:44] <micka> ?
[18:44] <micka> AH MERCI
[18:45] <pfred1> roo45 the weird part was it'd work fine at low system load it'd only act up if demands were raised
[18:45] <roo45> dr_willis: Yes, totally fine. What's more is that if I login to that account, logout, and login to my original account, everything is fine there. Until I suspend or restart. Then I have to do the process again to get it working.
[18:45] <pfred1> roo45 nothing beats on a system more than building a kernel
[18:45] <micka> ok
[18:45] <micka> thx
[18:46] <dr_willis> roo45,  if a 2nd user works totally fine that basically points it to being some odd user setting issue for the problem user.
[18:46] <roo45> pfred1: Okay, I guess. So something like this http://linuxtweaking.blogspot.com/2011/04/how-to-recompile-your-ubuntu-1104.html ?
[18:46] <munzxttt> auronandace : here is the output of ifconfig | http://paste.ubuntu.com/665937/
[18:46] <pfred1> roo45 like dr_willis says if it works in one configuration it could be software
[18:47] <auronandace> munzxttt: etherape wlan0
[18:47] <roo45> dr_willis: I agree. But I have no clue what settings to look at or delete. I didn't change anything (besides updating my system). The problem exists on both Unity and GNOME 2, so I don't think it's Unity related. I don't know enough about the UI to know what to look for.
[18:47] <dr_willis> roo45,  simple.. remove them all.... :)
[18:47] <pfred1> roo45 but I've been running Linux a long time and the software usually works
[18:48] <dr_willis> roo45,  unity and the 'classic' desktop are using the same underlaying stuff..
[18:48] <vvcv> qu
[18:48] <vvcv> question
[18:48] <TYDIRocks> could someone help me with my wifi? Someone helped me get it working my installing I think it was bt34...but when I restarted it seems I can't connect again
[18:48] <vvcv> i have now linux mint should i install ubuntu
[18:48] <dr_willis> roo45,  theres commands to totally reset compiz and unity.
[18:48] <dr_willis> vvcv,  you should most likely erase mint and just use ubuntu.
[18:48] <munzxttt> auronandace : i've got the same error msg!
[18:48] <pfred1> vvcv depends how you really feel about the color green
[18:49] <roo45> dr_willis: I've done unity --reset and gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1
[18:49] <guntbert> munzxttt: etherape -i wlan0
[18:49] <roo45> dr_willis: no effect.
[18:49] <roo45> pfred1: Do you recommend following the instructions in the link to compile a kernel?
[18:50] <pfred1> vvcv mint is OK I've heard lots that like it
[18:50] <auronandace> munzxttt: sorry, i'm guessing here; never used etherape. try what guntbert said
[18:50] <dr_willis> roo45,  how odd..  i guess you could go hardcore and clean out your entire home dir.. (move everything over to some subdir) and log out/back in...
[18:50] <TYDIRocks> could someone help me with my wifi? Someone helped me get it working my installing I think it was bt34...but when I restarted it seems I can't connect again
[18:50] <pfred1> roo45 it would tell you definitively your hardware is Ok to do it and i do like to rule out the obvious
[18:50] <dr_willis> bbl.
[18:51] <roo45> dr_willis: Yeah, that may be what I end up doing. Frustrating, but feasible.
[18:52] <pfred1> roo45 just don't run whatever kernel you build they can be a little tricky to configure properly
[18:52] <vvcv> mint not
[18:52] <munzxttt> guntbert : i add "sudo" not it works .... yea! its really fun just to watch .... thanks! pfred :) ... and thanks auronandace and gunbert! :)
[18:52] <roo45> pfred1: Right, I wouldn't risk that.
[18:52] <munzxttt> i mean now it works!
[18:52] <pfred1> roo45 though worth doing someday
[18:53] <pfred1> roo45 I have a 1 Ghz p3 here that boots in 16 seconds flat
[18:53] <pfred1> roo45 it can't do that using a canned kernel
[18:53] <guntbert> !yay | munzxttt
[18:53] <TYDIRocks> could someone help me with my wifi? Someone helped me get it working by installing b34 stuff...but when I restarted it seems I can't connect again amd tje cjamges see, reverted
[18:54] <munzxttt> thanks! everybody! bye :)
[18:54] <roo45> pfred1: Pretty nice.
[18:55] <pfred1> roo45 my i3 comes up in 5 and change on a canned kernel older boxes can use a little more help though
[18:56] <Guest26828> TYDI: what did u do prior to restart
[18:56] <pfred1> I wish I could figure out how to run bootchart using grub2
[18:56] <vvcv> hello i hate unity
[18:56] <vvcv> shpould i use 10.10
[18:56] <TYDIRocks> daserfost, all I can think is I made it so it required a password on login
[18:57] <auronandace> !cassic | vvcv
[18:57] <auronandace> !classic | vvcv
[18:57] <daserfost> After that u could not connect to internet again?
[18:57] <pfred1> auronandace I wish things were so easy to get KDE 3.5
[18:57] <SoloGaijin> hey guys - posted this in #linux but its just as appropriate here I suppose:
[18:57] <SoloGaijin> I am getting an error starting radvd: IPv6 forwarding seems to be disabled. - however I added the line: net.ipv6.conf.default.forwarding=1 in /etc/sysctl.conf as the tutorial stated
[18:58] <SoloGaijin> setting up radvd and doing radvd restart
[18:58] <auronandace> pfred1: there is trinity desktop: http://www.trinitydesktop.org/
[18:59] <pfred1> auronandace I'm giving it a look
[18:59] <himsin> Hi, i wish to automatically mount /dev/sda3 on start up it has ext4 filesystem. How do i do it??
[18:59] <TYDIRocks> daserfost, no I can't connect through wifi currently. I can through ethernet
[18:59] <mkquist> auronandace: does it just go back to gnome 2?
[19:00] <raven> virtualbox: i just mirrored a partition (sda1) to a vdi file - how to append the necessary things to use it in vbox (mbr.....)?
[19:00] <himsin> Hi, i wish to automatically mount /dev/sda3 on start up it has ext4 filesystem. How do i do it??
[19:00] <pfred1> auronandace hey pretty cool1 I guess I'm not the only one that wasn't too wild about the 4.X release
[19:00] <daserfost> TYDIRocks:  if all else fails try run this comand and see if it connects. Sudo dhclient wlan0
[19:00] <quatrox> SoloGaijin: try echo "1" >/proc/sys/net/ipv6/ip_forwarding
[19:00] <pfred1> auronandace I have an old box here I won't upgrade just because it has KDE 3.5 on it
[19:00] <auronandace> mkquist: classic mode? yes. but there won't be gnome 2 in 11.10 (only unity and gnome3)
[19:01] <TYDIRocks> daserfost, it says no such device
[19:01] <SoloGaijin> nm found a link that solved it, for some reason had to do: sudo sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding=1
[19:01] <ChessTeach> Anyone know a console based program that will take HTML as input and output just the text?
[19:01] <pfred1> ChessTeach cat?
[19:02] <auronandace> pfred1: i've always been more of an xfce guy; i tried lxde too and was suprisingly impressed
[19:02] <ChessTeach> pfred1: i mean with the tags removed, i don't think cat can do that
[19:03] <pfred1> ChessTeach yeah after I thought about it it dawned on me what you really wanted
[19:03] <arosen1> When I compile code on this one ubuntu machine i get output that has like ???? because i don't think i have the character set or something. Any ideas why i need to install to fix this
[19:03] <daserfost> TYDIRocks: ifconfig to see the actual wireless device name them use it inplace of wlan0
[19:03] <yeats> ChessTeach: html2text
[19:03] <arosen1> for example like this: expected expression before ���[��� token
[19:03] <TYDIRocks> daserfost, it's not showing any
[19:04] <guntbert> !fstab | himsin
[19:04] <roo45> pfred1: I wish I could get my system to boot that fast on a normal kernel. I've got an i7 and X58 motherboard and it takes nearly a minute for 11.04 to boot.
[19:04] <ChessTeach> yeats: coll thanks
[19:04] <ChessTeach> err cool
[19:04] <Gentoo64> roo45, ssd?
[19:05] <pfred1> roo45 check your log for what is taking it
[19:05] <daserfost> TYDIRocks: does ur eth0 and loopback device appear on ifconfig?
[19:05] <TYDIRocks> daserfost, yes
[19:05] <pfred1> roo45 there is this app called bootchart but I can't figure out how to use it in grub2 yet
[19:05] <roo45> Gentoo64: Nope, that would speed it up though. When I have the money I'll go for it.
[19:06] <pfred1> roo45 a timestamped bootlog should give some clues though
[19:07] <roo45> pfred1: Yeah, I love bootchart. This is one from a couple days ago http://i.imgur.com/ccJSS.png . I just don't see anything that's taking up too much time.
[19:07] <vvcv> How often can i foramt a ssd
[19:08] <daserfost> TYDIRocks: i think the problem here is with the wireless driver. what's device manufacture name?
[19:08] <TYDIRocks> daserfost, it's a broadcom. I've already downloaded the b43 stuff, do you know the command to activate them?
[19:09] <pfred1> roo45 my P3 http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2250/wedoct27bootchart.png
[19:10] <daserfost> TYDIRocks: it has a confliting driver which u have to remove and insmod the right one
[19:10] <_newbie_> ciao a tutti
[19:10] <_newbie_> !lista
[19:10] <TYDIRocks> daserfost, how come it was working before the restart then?
[19:11] <roo45> pfred1: Nice, very clean.
[19:11] <pfred1> roo45 I stripped it down as much as i could to make a dedicated CNC controller
[19:11] <daserfost> TYDIRocks, try this and see if sb module shows up: lsmod
[19:12] <pfred1> roo45 it is built up from a bare Debian Lenny
[19:12] <Siegel-> can i ask a question about ubuntu in here?
[19:12] <pfred1> Siegel-:  you already have
[19:12] <TYDIRocks> daserfost, a bunch of stuff pops up
[19:13] <Siegel-> pfred1: not really
[19:13] <Siegel-> >	i want to drag photos from one folder to another without cutting them, only copying. it worked all day and then it stopped. it started moving the pictures instead of copying them. how can i change it back?
[19:13] <daserfost> TYDIRocks: scroll down and locate sb
[19:13] <pfred1>  Siegel- you're in luck they're running a twofor today
[19:13] <Siegel-> good
[19:13] <Grepsd|BNC> do anyone know if ubuntu is gonna support the nvidia graphic cards with the optimus features ?
[19:13] <TYDIRocks> daserfost, don't see it
[19:13] <pfred1> Grepsd|BNC Ubuntu never will but nvidia might
[19:14] <rightlegred> Hey, can anyone help me get divx web player working?
[19:15] <guntbert> Siegel-: normally the behaviour when dragging depends on if source and target are on the same or different devices, you can force copy mode by pressing <ctrl>
[19:15] <ChessTeach> Can someone recommend a console based RSS Reader, I need an easy way to highlight text from the feed via the keyboard.
[19:15] <daserfost> TYDIRocks: cant remember the exact driver that conflicts with b34. Try some google search. I ones solved thay problem on dell
[19:16] <TYDIRocks> daserfost, alright thanks.
[19:16] <Siegel-> guntbert: ill try that
[19:16] <Siegel-> thanks
[19:17] <guntbert> Siegel-: you're welcome :-)
[19:18] <ok_wait> hey guys i just installed spore and it seems to run fine under wine accept for the fonts. it just looks like they're pixelized. http://picpaste.com/Workspace_1_007-yFqHIaeV.jpeg i've never seen anything like it. anybody have any ideas?
[19:18] <ok_wait> ^except
[19:19] <Siegel-> guntbert: it works
[19:19] <guntbert> Siegel-: :)
[19:19] <lidenbrock> is there any free software that build logic diagrams for digital systems? If there is, what is the name of it?
[19:20] <raven> virtualbox: i just mirrored a partition (sda1) to a vdi file - how to append the necessary things to use it in vbox (mbr.....)?
[19:20] <pfred1> lidenbrock when I look for software I check on freshmeat.net/ they have a nice search feature
[19:20] <lidenbrock> ty
[19:20] <quatrox> lidenbrock: do you mean for electronics?
[19:20] <raven> virtualbox: i just mirrored a partition (sda1) to a vdi file - how to append the necessary things to use it in vbox (mbr.....)?
[19:21] <lidenbrock> quatrox: I mean for logical circuits
[19:22] <pfred1> lidenbrock like flowcharts?
[19:22] <lidenbrock> like and ports
[19:22] <vvcv> How often can i foramt a ssd
[19:22] <Gentoo64> vvcv, quick format?
[19:22] <Gentoo64> any amount
[19:22] <guntbert> !repeat | raven (and ask in #vbox)
[19:22] <pfred1> vvcv until it breaks
[19:22] <edbian> vvcv: You could do it every day if you wanted
[19:22] <raven> virtualbox: i just mirrored a partition (sda1) to a vdi file - how to append the necessary things to use it in vbox (mbr.....)?
[19:23] <Gentoo64> vvcv, the newer ssds are more tolerant, just dont repeateldy secure erase / full format them
[19:23] <lidenbrock> I wanna build circuits that make sums between binaries
[19:23] <vvcv> ok
[19:23] <pfred1> lidenbrock do you mean circuit simulation software?
[19:23] <lidenbrock> yeah
[19:23] <bogdan_> bos123
[19:24] <daserfost> TYDIRocks: are you there?
[19:24] <TYDIRocks> daserfost, yes
[19:24] <pfred1> lidenbrock I couldn't even find a decent Z-80 emulator yesterday when I was looking
[19:24] <vvcv> OK THANks
[19:24] <ok_wait> hey guys i just installed spore and it seems to run fine under wine except for the fonts just look like they're pixelized. http://picpaste.com/Workspace_1_007-yFqHIaeV.jpeg  anybody have any ideas?
[19:24] <vvcv> a question
[19:25] <vvcv> should i use 10.04 10.10 11.04 or 11
[19:25] <vvcv> 11.10
[19:25] <yubahaq> hi everyone
[19:25] <hawkal> After removing a meta package from synaptic other applications I need have been highlighted as "auto removable" but I need them. How can I change them back to normal?
[19:25] <ok_wait> could somebody ask someone in #wine cause it's invite only
[19:25] <pfred1> is Ubuntu 11 LTS?
[19:26] <auronandace> pfred1: no
[19:26] <vvcv> should i use 10.04 10.10 11.04 or 11.10
[19:26] <daserfost> TYDIRocks: the readme.txt file that comes with the broadcome driver has the instruction
[19:26] <edbian> pfred1: 11.04 and 11.10 are not lts
[19:26] <auronandace> !lts | pfred1
[19:26] <pfred1> or is 10.04 the latest LTS release?
[19:26] <quatrox> vvcv: the higher the newer... 11.10
[19:26] <edbian> vvcv: 10.04 or 11.04 are preferred
[19:26] <TYDIRocks> daserfost, where can I find that?
[19:26] <vvcv> 10.10 is lts
[19:26] <edbian> vvcv: no, 10.04 is lts
[19:26] <vvcv> ok
[19:26] <vvcv> should i use 10.04 10.10 11.04 or 11.10
[19:26] <d3s3rtdw3ll3r> ok_wait. try install ttf-mscorefonts
[19:27] <edbian> vvcv: 10.04 or 11.04 are preferred
[19:27] <vvcv> yes edbian
[19:27] <pfred1> yeah i hate messing with my machines once i set them up so I'm all for LTS
[19:27] <edbian> vvcv: yes?  Was this a quiz?
[19:27] <vvcv> edbian: i need kernel at least 2.6.33, but it is installable in  10.04 is it not
[19:27] <daserfost> TYDIRocks: looking it up but my network is damn slow
[19:27] <TYDIRocks> daserfost, heh, thanks
[19:27] <pfred1> vvcv why not?
[19:27] <vvcv> ok but i can not really decide betwween 10.04 and 11.04
[19:27] <vvcv> 4
[19:28] <edbian> vvcv: I think you'll have to use 11.04 or higher to get 2.6.33
[19:28] <pfred1> edbian they chack your distro string at kernel.org?
[19:28] <vvcv> edbian: linux-lts-natty-generic is included in the 10.04 repos it contains 2.6.38
[19:28] <edbian> pfred1: what?
[19:29] <edbian> vvcv: Then I recommend 10.04
[19:29] <vvcv> ok
[19:29] <edbian> vvcv: Unless you want unity
[19:29] <pfred1> edbian just because a distro isn't packaging it doesn't mean you cannot run a later kernel
[19:29] <edbian> pfred1: oh, yeah I suppose
[19:29] <pfred1> edbian if you've any skills you can even package it up yourself!
[19:29] <edbian> pfred1: But just because you can run a newer kernel on an older version of a distro doesn't mean you should use that older version
[19:30] <daserfost> TYDIRocks: lsmod: is ther b43, ssb, wl on list
[19:30] <vvcv> edbian: no i hate this shit never seen such a shit before
[19:30] <guntbert> ok_wait: it is #winehq
[19:30] <oCean> vvcv: control your language please
[19:30] <pfred1> edbian my general rule with upgrading is if I don't need the features I probably don't need the bugs either
[19:30] <redmenace> hello i found out the other day that banshee has a weird preference set to default. It's set by default to not copy music to media folders. Is there a reason for that?
[19:30] <edbian> vvcv: no need to swear
[19:30] <edbian> pfred1: agreed
[19:31] <edbian> redmenace: Why make a copy?  Why not just use the music where it is?  (what makes that weird?)
[19:31] <ok_wait> guntbert, they're already installed
[19:31] <TYDIRocks> daserfost, there is wl
[19:32] <industrial> If I install the packages ruby and rubygems and then do a sudo gem install heroku, the binaries that gem is installing for each gem are not in my path. They are there on disk though, at /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/
[19:32] <daserfost> TYDIRocks: try:
[19:32] <guntbert> ok_wait: you were complaining that #wine is invite-only, so I told you the correct channel
[19:32] <daserfost> insmod b43
[19:32] <daserfost> Insmod ssb
[19:32] <edbian> TYDIRocks: issue?
[19:32] <edbian> TYDIRocks: with b43 ?
[19:32] <pfred1> industrial you cna make links to executables in a dir on your path maybe or add that dir to your path
[19:33] <redmenace> edbian, i put the music on from itunes (boo) onto my ipod, then synced it to banshee, but it wouldnt copy to the music folder in my home directory
[19:33] <TYDIRocks> daserfost, ebdian is who helped me get this install
[19:33] <vvcv> should i use 10.04 10.10 11.04 or 11.10
[19:33] <edbian> redmenace: Ahh, from the ipod you mean.
[19:33] <industrial> pfred1: well ic an also invoke absolute paths for now
[19:33] <edbian> TYDIRocks: daserfost hello :)
[19:33] <industrial> pfred1: but shouldnt this work out of the box?
[19:33] <TYDIRocks> edbian, yes, I restarted and it won't work anymore
[19:33] <redmenace> then i found out about that setting
[19:33] <redmenace> yes
[19:33] <redmenace> just thought that could be a prblm
[19:34] <edbian> redmenace: Well banshee can't tell the difference between an ipod and an external hdd.  Assuming this was an external hdd you'd expect that behavior.  You can easilly manually copy the music though :)
[19:34] <pfred1> industrial it probably does you may not have changed the install prefix or something I don't know
[19:34] <edbian> TYDIRocks: really?  sudo modprobe b43 will make it work again
[19:34] <edbian> TYDIRocks: But I'm more curious why it isn't working automatically.  Did you try anything else to get this wifi card working before I helped you??
[19:34] <pfred1> industrial ./configure --help
[19:34] <redmenace> edbian, so can i still put music onto it? its a ipod nano 6g
[19:34] <industrial> pfred1: ehm, I installed with apt-get
[19:34] <ok_wait> guntbert, oh ok thank you
[19:35] <pfred1> industrial even apt will let you change configure options
[19:35] <edbian> redmenace: Yeah (why not?)  The issue is adding music to banshee right?
[19:35] <TYDIRocks> edbian, the only thing I can think is I tried adding the wifi info stuff manually in the control panel thing for networks, but I deleted that
[19:35] <maha-l2> hey, can i join?
[19:35] <edbian> TYDIRocks: what exactly did you do in the GUI?  I don't understand what you're saying
[19:35] <guntbert> maha-l2:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:35] <TYDIRocks> edbian, also that was the command I was looking for xD. Should I try restarting
[19:35] <_WKLEOMRPORORMMO> hello
[19:35] <alaing> not sure if this is the right place but here goes. I was just checking my apache error log and noticed this morning has a log with the following message "graceful restart requested, doing restart" not sure how/what caused this as i am the only admin user for this machine
[19:36] <_WKLEOMRPORORMMO> cant decide between diiferent things
[19:36] <oCean> _WKLEOMRPORORMMO:  this channel is for technical support, not for polls. You have had some suggestions, now stop repeating your question
[19:36] <daserfost> TYDIRocks: yeah modprobe b43 should bring it up along with ssb
[19:36] <_WKLEOMRPORORMMO> ok
[19:36] <edbian> TYDIRocks: After doing that command you should not have to restart to get wifi working.  If you wanna restart to test that wifi will be working automatically then I'm all for it.
[19:36] <TYDIRocks> edbian, before this b43 stuff, I clicked the icon, clicked edit connections and then added the network manually. However I removed it afterwards
[19:36] <redmenace> yes
[19:36] <redmenace> edbian, i thought there might be a hash of some kind
[19:36] <edbian> redmenace: a hash?
[19:37] <pfred1> edbian lets say I have a wired and a wireless internet connection how do I get ubuntu to use the wireless one if I disconnect the wired one?
[19:37] <edbian> TYDIRocks: that should not make a difference.
[19:37] <edbian> TYDIRocks: There is probably some other driver on the system.  Ready to try a reboot?
[19:37] <TYDIRocks> edbian, yeah I'm going to restart now
[19:37] <edbian> pfred1: That's what nm-applet is supposed to do by default.
[19:37] <alaing> what is apache channel called again
[19:37] <edbian> TYDIRocks: CAn you talk while it reboots?
[19:37] <pfred1> edbian yeah too bad it doesn't work huh?
[19:37] <oCean> alaing: #httpd
[19:37] <edbian> pfred1: It works for me?
[19:37] <TYDIRocks> edbian, yes, it is rebooting right now
[19:38] <edbian> pfred1: Is this 11.04 ?
[19:38] <daserfost> TYDIRocks: seams u will have to always run modprobe each time u want to use your wirelss interface
[19:38] <pfred1> edbian that is about as useful as a screen door on a submarine
[19:38] <pfred1> edbian 10.04
[19:38] <TYDIRocks> pfred1, edbian has always helped me with my problems!
[19:38] <edbian> TYDIRocks: When the system boots it looks at what hardware you have and what drivers it has.  It selects drivers for each piece of hardware.  There is probably some other driver that it is trying to use for the card.  I can fix it if that's the case
[19:38] <redmenace> edbian, something that stops third-party software (banshee) from uploading music to my ipod
[19:38] <pfred1> TYDIRocks saying it works here does nothing for the guy on the other end
[19:38] <edbian> pfred1: I think the functionality was added after 10.04 are you able to be connected to the wired and the wireless at the same time?
[19:39] <edbian> TYDIRocks: thanks :)
[19:39] <TYDIRocks> edbian, seems it isn't connecting again.
[19:39] <pfred1> edbian yeah it'd be nice but it is some sort of a routing issue I figured there'd be a nice window in ubuntu where i could change my iface
[19:39] <tarelerulz> Is there any way to use wired internet connection and wifi connection at the same time and have web browers use one connection and other program use other ?
[19:39] <edbian> redmenace: I suggest setting the ipod to MSC mode instead of MTP mode.  This will make it so that hte ipod is treated as a jump drive and you can transfer music easily.
[19:40] <edbian> TYDIRocks: sudo lspci -k    This will list a lot of stuff. I need to know what driver and modules are listed for the wifi card.  You should be able to find it by looking for bcm4311
[19:40] <pfred1> edbian I know the wireless works because i rebooted the live CD without the net cable then setup my wireless same as I did before and it works
[19:40] <CyPh3R> a noob question if I may..? im new to ubuntu
[19:40] <edbian> TYDIRocks: You can also pastebin it if you want: paste.ubuntu.com
[19:40] <guntbert> tarelerulz: no easy way, you'd have to know iptables pretty well
[19:40] <K-Rich> i am soooo irked with my kid.
[19:40] <tenchi21> anyone here ever turn a linux box into a media server to feed multiple display monitors ? think like how bestbuy/walmart/etc have multiple screens playing the same thing. But I want to it using shuffle
[19:41] <edbian> pfred1: In the newer nm-applet you can be connecting to wired and wireless at the same time and then when one dies the other takes over.
[19:41] <guntbert> !ot | K-Rich
[19:41] <edbian> pfred1: You need to use 10.10 or 11.04 to get this feature
[19:41] <edbian> pfred1: I'm not sure it's in 10.10 though
[19:41] <tjiggi_fo> CyPh3R, just ask
[19:41] <pfred1> edbian that would be nice but I am interested in LTS too
[19:41] <K-Rich> got her that tablet, let her check it out, and she friggin dropped it and cracked the screen!
[19:41] <CyPh3R> i know it will sound stupid but how the hell do I install Mesa 7.11 in ubuntu 11.04?
[19:41] <oCean> K-Rich: stop that, this is support channel
[19:41] <edbian> pfred1: I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too :)
[19:42] <edbian> K-Rich: How old is she?
[19:42] <edbian> oCean: sorry
[19:42] <pfred1> edbian this is Linux i can bake my own cake
[19:42] <edbian> pfred1: Then go grab the source for the newest nm-applet and install it on 10.04
[19:42] <K-Rich> i could sooooo almost kill her
[19:42] <oCean> K-Rich: last warning, stop
[19:43] <raven> virtualbox: i just mirrored a partition (sda1) to a vdi file - how to append the necessary things to use it in vbox (mbr.....)?
[19:43] <edbian> K-Rich: chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:43] <daserfost> TYDIRocks: any luck?
[19:43] <datruth> Is there anyway when using openvpn to let the firewall see the traffic coming from the client assigned vpn ip instead of the vpn gateway ip
[19:43] <TYDIRocks> edbian, paste.ubuntu.com/665961
[19:43] <edbian> TYDIRocks: reading...
[19:43] <pfred1> edbian but thanks now at least i won't keep on looking for a feature that hasn't been implemented on this version
[19:43] <TYDIRocks> daserfost, I'm habing edbian help me :)
[19:43] <guntbert> raven: please ask in #vbox for virtualbox support
[19:44] <edbian> TYDIRocks: see wl and ssb there?
[19:44] <edbian> pfred1: sure
[19:44] <TYDIRocks> edbian, which line? :P
[19:44] <Braber01> how do I add a key combo in easy Stroke?
[19:44] <edbian> TYDIRocks: ~line 66
[19:44] <Prajwal> Matriux Krypton released http://www.matriux.com/index.php?page=download
[19:44] <edbian> TYDIRocks: this is 11.04 right?
[19:45] <pfred1> edbian I know there is an old way to change the default route but i rarely mess with networking stuff
[19:45] <TYDIRocks> edbian, correct
[19:45] <TYDIRocks> edbian, okay I see wlan
[19:45] <edbian> TYDIRocks: :)
[19:45] <oCean> Prajwal: don't paste that here
[19:45] <edbian> TYDIRocks: sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source
[19:45] <Prajwal> oCean: just spreading the linux spirit
[19:45] <oCean> Prajwal: don't do it here again
[19:46] <edbian> TYDIRocks: sudo apt-get purge broadcom-sta-source
[19:47] <pfred1> Prajwal what is this?
[19:47] <edbian> TYDIRocks: then run the command again (sudo lspci -k) and see if wl and ssb are still listed or not
[19:47] <Braber01> Hi I'm having Trouble adding the Alt+F4 Keycombo in easystroke can somebody give me some tips?
[19:47] <oCean> pfred1: it is offtopic, drop it
[19:47] <Prajwal> a linux distribution for penetration testers
[19:47] <oCean> Prajwal: stop now
[19:47] <pfred1> oCean well I saw it in the channel so that made it topical
[19:47] <oCean> pfred1: no, wrong. Read the /topic of this channel.
[19:47] <TYDIRocks> edbian, should it be around the same line?
[19:48] <edbian> TYDIRocks: yes (the exact same probably) it's near the bottom.
[19:48] <Prajwal> oCean: fine
[19:48] <pfred1> oCean i guess I'm just a victim
[19:48] <Prajwal> thats not a spam
[19:49] <TYDIRocks> edbian, the kernel modules says ssb
[19:49] <edbian> TYDIRocks: but wl is now gone?
[19:50] <edbian> TYDIRocks: because it said 'wl, ssb' before remember?
[19:50] <TYDIRocks> edbian, yeah wl is gone
[19:50] <edbian> TYDIRocks: reboot   (to test it)
[19:50] <edbian> TYDIRocks: ssb is used with b43 (I don't understand how or why so don't ask me)
[19:51] <TYDIRocks> edbian, alright lol. Restarting
[19:53] <TYDIRocks> edbian, connect to wifi :D
[19:53] <edbian> TYDIRocks: awesome
[19:53] <edbian> TYDIRocks: \o/
[19:54] <TYDIRocks> edbian, if I got another distro, like Backtrack 5, would I need to do this again?
[19:54] <Iamnigs> hello
[19:54] <edbian> TYDIRocks: I have no idea what backtrack 5 will do.  I can say some distros will require something like this, some won't.  Likely none will be the exact same commands / steps
[19:55] <edbian> TYDIRocks: But there are probably many that won't distribute the firmware (which was the problem here).
[19:55] <TYDIRocks> edbian, hmm alright, thanks. You always know what too do :D
[19:55] <edbian> TYDIRocks: all distros do the hardware driver guessing game (That's part of the linux kernel)
[19:55] <edbian> TYDIRocks: haha, I'm good with wifi cards.
[19:55] <TYDIRocks> edbian, heh, I can tell
[19:56] <edbian> TYDIRocks: :)
[19:56] <pfred1> a lot seem to get Linux confused with distributions
[19:56] <TYDIRocks> edbian, well, I can't think of anything else I need help with right now
[19:56] <edbian> TYDIRocks: good :)  Have good day
[19:57] <TYDIRocks> edbian, you too, I'll hollar if I need you :p
[19:57] <Augustuen> I have a friend that selected Home directory encryption on his Ubuntu server, now he has forgotten his password and changed it, how does he get it decrypted?
[19:57] <edbian> Augustuen: He does not.  This is the point of encryption
[19:57] <Augustuen> so unless he remembers his old password the files are gone?
[19:58] <rypervenche> Augustuen: Correct.
[19:58] <guntbert> Augustuen: when he enabled encryption he was told to record the encryption passphrase and store it in a safe place, he can use that
[19:59] <Augustuen> does he choose his own passphrase?
[19:59] <pfred1> guntbert that is what postit notes are for stuck to the sides of systems
[19:59] <guntbert> Augustuen: now, it is a random string
[19:59] <guntbert> *no
[20:00] <twojastara> halo?
[20:01] <edbian> twojastara: halo
[20:01] <pfred1> edbian I'm running top now and just saw that program you mentioned pop up nm-applet was it?
[20:01] <ok_wait> does anybody know how to fix this http://picpaste.com/pics/Workspace_1_010-XxpE5A9E.1313350438.jpeg in wine?
[20:01] <Nighthwk> Can anyone help me with this error?   onflicts with the installed package 'virtualbox-ose'
[20:01] <guntbert> !pl | twojastara
[20:01] <oCean> ok_wait: application support for wine is in #winehq, not here
[20:02] <edbian> pfred1: yeah
[20:02] <pfred1> edbian my version doesn't have the features of the later one?
[20:02] <alaing> i have two  folders in my /tmp
[20:02] <alaing> shoudl i be worried
[20:03] <polarityman> Im having trouble getting any network access working on a new ubuntu install on an old toshiba sattelite even wired, i appear to be getting assigned an ip however i cant ping anything other than loopback ands the router doesnt show the laptop as connected. Wireless doesnt even appear to attempt to connect
[20:03] <edbian> pfred1: yes, that's what I think anyway:  http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_leienga0OT1qb5bmy.png
[20:03] <alaing> they are pulse and orbit
[20:03] <pfred1> edbian I'm going to go read about this nm-applet
[20:03] <urgru> #ubuntu-de
[20:03] <edbian> pfred1: sure
[20:03] <guntbert> alaing: I have 10, so no need to worry
[20:04] <pfred1> edbian I'm looking at the screener in wikipedia and I had this thing going
[20:04] <edbian> pfred1: :)
[20:04] <alaing> orbit-gdm and pulse-PKdhtXMmr18n
[20:04] <pfred1> edbian once i had the wire running and I disconnected it the system didn't want to know anything about the wireless
[20:07] <n00bie> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu on a VM and when starting it up, I am getting some errors on the startup screen like "update bios. . ." and ". . ./cryptswap not ready" any suggestions?  Thanks, totally new to terminal commands and Linux
[20:08] <pfred1> quit it is later than you think
[20:08] <alaing> thanks guntbert
[20:08] <guntbert> alaing: no problem :)
[20:09] <alaing> i remember hearing about a command that tells you where the config file of a running service is. any idea what it might be?
[20:09] <yubahaq> hi
[20:09] <yubahaq> don't know
[20:09] <guntbert> yubahaq:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:10] <yubahaq> anyone knows ?
[20:10] <yubahaq> yes
[20:10] <yubahaq> i do
[20:11] <n00bie> guntbert, I have a question regarding ubuntu support.  Can you help me?
[20:11] <qin> alaing: locate service_name may help
[20:11] <yubahaq> why is firefox is so low in ubuntu
[20:12] <guntbert> n00bie: please put the question to the channel, if someone knows an answer they will reply
[20:12] <n00bie> okay, thanks
[20:13] <eFfeM> hi, is it possible to configure 11.04 with gnome2 so it keeps the desktop (including apps) during reboot? I've used opensuse before and there the apps that were open when shutting down would be restarted on the next boot, but can't manage to get this on 11.04
[20:13] <ubuntini21> does anybody know how i can add a button in libreoffice calc  in the table which added +1 if somebody clicked on it?
[20:15] <alaing> thanks qin
[20:15] <n00bie> Hi, All, I just installed ubuntu and when starting it up, i get some errors pertaining to "update bios or force. . ." and ". . ./cryptswap not ready" I'm not entirely sure the entire message bc it goes by so fast, but can someone help to eliminate these errors?
[20:16] <szal> hmm..  is it just me, or is the kerning of the Ubuntu font a tad bit illogical? - if you have that font in your IRC client, see e.g. this word concatenation -> ent-Tumbleweed-ifiziert <- notice how the first dash kerns into the t, but the u doesn't kern into the T
[20:18] <alaing> qin i dont think it was locate. from what i hear it showed you the config file that was loaded in for that sevice
[20:19] <FFForever> How can I add windows and a grub menu selection during boot?
[20:19] <GOMI> dual screen , how do i go about it in ubuntu 11.04
[20:20] <lngndvs_> join #berkeleylug
[20:20] <yeats> alaing: *sometimes* 'ps' will show the config file if it's part of the service invocation - but not always
[20:21] <GOMI> should i use twinview or is theire someting more simple to it ?
[20:22] <GreenWolf> use bootloader
[20:24] <szal> FFForever: a Windows entry should have been added to the Grub automatically
[20:28] <polarityman> ok im a little further on for some reason doing dhclient -r eth0, dhclient eth0 got me to the stage where i can ping the router, which is odd as the syslog shows the original lease was negotitated from the gateway anyway. but now pinging outside the local network results in "connect: Network is unreachable".  Any ideas
[20:28] <vanga> is there anybody from Russia or ukraine?
[20:29] <guntbert> !ru | vanga
[20:29] <guntbert> Guest10264: don't irc as root!
[20:29] <Nighthwk> Can anyone help with this error
[20:29] <Nighthwk> Error! Your kernel headers for kernel 2.6.35-22-generic cannot be found at
[20:29] <Nighthwk> /lib/modules/2.6.35-22-generic/build or /lib/modules/2.6.35-22-generic/source.
[20:30] <vanga> ubottu, thank you
[20:31] <polarityman> Nighthwk, do you have any other generic header files, perhaps different versions? you might be able to symlink to them, are you compiling something? this sounds like an error when gcc or ld cant find .h files
[20:31] <Nighthwk> I trying to run vbox
[20:31] <Nighthwk> and when i do the setup it give me this error
[20:31] <yeats> Nighthwk: you're trying to add the guest additions?
[20:32] <oCean> Nighthwk: this installs the header files for you current kernel:   sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[20:32] <yeats> Nighthwk: is it an Ubuntu guest?
[20:32] <guntbert> Nighthwk: did you reboot since you upgraded the kernel the last time?
[20:33] <ityler15> does anyone know a permanent fix for b43 instead of running the modprobe command?
[20:33] <Nighthwk> E: Unable to locate package linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic
[20:33] <Nighthwk> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-headers-2.6.35-22-generic'
[20:33] <edbian> ityler15: I do
[20:33] <polarityman> ahah i see the problem, /sbin/route -n shows a gateway of 0.0.0.0. How to i change the gateway address?
[20:34] <Guest10264> Hi, I have a new install of Ubuntu 11.04 on a Dell Hybrid 140g.  Its to be used as a MythTV front end however once it boots into ubuntu the colours displayed on the TV are off.  I am using a HDMI cable to the TV
[20:34] <urlin2u> Nighthwk, what is the release, that kernels looks like end of life release.
[20:34] <Guest10264> Basically blue appears green, green appears red etc
[20:34] <Nighthwk> urlin2u I'm not sure
[20:34] <ityler15> edbian: what is it?
[20:35] <willwh> Guest10264: you're running your irc client as root - not a good idea
[20:35] <edbian> ityler15: remove the packages for or blacklist the modules which are loading instead of b43
[20:35] <edbian> ityler15: Do you know how to do that?
[20:35] <urlin2u> Nighthwk, this is in virtual box?
[20:36] <oCean> Nighthwk: it's 10.10 (maverick, right?) So you probably have to update the kernel first, I think there's a slightly newer version
[20:36] <ityler15> sorta, i used to have ubuntu but then i switched back to windows, now im back into ubuntu
[20:36] <oCean> !info linux-image-generic maverick
[20:36] <urlin2u> Nighthwk, open system monitor and click the far left tab for the release.
[20:36] <ityler15> edbian: whats the file location?
[20:36] <edbian> ityler15: well you can get the driver names using sudo lspci -k   look under your card.  If you need help then pastebin the results and I'll look too, paste.ubuntu.com
[20:36] <edbian> ityler15: the file location of what?
[20:36] <Nighthwk> 4.1.4
[20:36] <polarityman> ok so eventually got wired access working via ip route add default via 192.168.1.254. Im sure last time i used ubuntu this all autodetected fine wonder what went wrong this time
[20:36] <yeats> polarityman: try 'sudo route add default gw <ip-address-for-gateway> eth0 (or whatever interface you're using)
[20:37] <polarityman> now to dive into wifi :D
[20:37] <Nighthwk> 2.6.35-22
[20:37] <ityler15> disregard that
[20:37] <yeats> polarityman: ah - missed your post as I answered ;-)
[20:37] <alaing> yeats: ps?
[20:37] <ityler15> edbian: disregard that
[20:38] <edbian> ityler15: ok :)
[20:38] <yeats> alaing: try 'ps aux | grep <service-name>' - it may show the config file - that's what you're after, right?
[20:38] <ityler15> edbian: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 0c)
[20:38] <ityler15> 	Subsystem: Dell Device 0228
[20:38] <ityler15> 	Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
[20:38] <ityler15> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c)
[20:38] <ityler15> 	Subsystem: Dell Device 0228
[20:38] <FloodBot1> ityler15: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <ityler15> 	Kernel driver in use: i915
[20:39] <edbian> ityler15: use paste.ubuntu.com
[20:39] <yeats> !paste | ityler15 ;-)
[20:39] <alaing> yeats yes thanks thats what I'm after
[20:40] <yeats> alaing: great!
[20:40] <ityler15> http://paste.ubuntu.com/665988/
[20:40] <|Slacker|> weird, i'm unable to emulate 3 buttons on my natty
[20:40] <edbian> ityler15: reading...
[20:40] <polarityman> yeah i saw yeats thanks, just managed to get it working before ur reply
[20:41] <|Slacker|> using the touchpad
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> |Slacker|: what make and model is the system?
[20:41] <edbian> ityler15: It's the last thing.  See it down there?  broadcom corporation bcm4311
[20:41] <|Slacker|> wait
[20:41] <edbian> ityler15: The module that we need to remove is wl   lemme look up which packages to remove to get rid of wl ok?
[20:42] <ityler15> okay haha
[20:42] <edbian> ityler15: this is 11.04 right?
[20:42] <|Slacker|> i have problems finding info in ubuntu :p
[20:42] <Jarvis> anyone about who has had problems with KVM processes corrupting its CPU count on the host OS ?
[20:42] <ityler15> yeah
[20:43] <ityler15> edbian: Yeah
[20:43] <Jarvis> i've 3 virtual machines running with insane CPU usage (impossible count)
[20:43] <Jarvis> ps says the process is using 74738% CPU
[20:43] <edbian> ityler15: sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source and sudo apt-get purge broadcom-sta-source
[20:43] <edbian> ityler15: I searched the repos for 'wl'  http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=wl&searchon=all&suite=natty&section=all
[20:44] <jnsl_> whoever recommended me creating swap file, thanks a lot it worked out quite nicely !
[20:44] <chadwin> quit
[20:44] <|Slacker|> ActionParsnip: my netbook uses an elantech touchpd
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> |Slacker|: fine, what make and model is the system, not the touchpad...
[20:45] <ityler15> edbian: running.....
[20:45] <|Slacker|> ubuntu 11.04
[20:45] <edbian> ityler15: k
[20:45] <edbian> ityler15: when it's done look at the output of sudo lspci -k again and you'll see wl is no longer listed there.
[20:45] <skraps> I installed squid, and configured it and everything but now squid breaks all my other installs thru apt , how do I fix this?
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> |Slacker|: no, like a dell or an IBM or an EEE PC, the hardware, the OS is not the model of the system, is it
[20:46] <ityler15> edbian: Errors were encountered while processing:
[20:46] <ityler15>  firmware-b43legacy-installer
[20:46] <saladin1980> hello
[20:46] <|Slacker|> ActionParsnip: the mouse config doesn't give me an option to emulate 3 buttons
[20:46] <edbian> ityler15: pastebin the error: paste.ubuntu.com
[20:46] <saladin1980> is there anyway easy to make a windows 7 bootable usb drive in linux?
[20:46] <urlin2u> saladin1980, yes
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> |Slacker|: I know, you said. I now need the model of the make and model of the system you are using
[20:47] <Guest68038> I bought a brand new Toshiba Satellite C655D S5200. Of course I did not want Windows, so I tried to install Ubuntu 11.04 32bit. After I installed and started, it kept freezing up on me. I tried to reinstall, and it did the same thing. I then installed 10.04 LTS which no longer freezes, but it does not recognize my wireless nor my ethernet adapter. I had to use my USB ethernet adapter to get online. Any help to get my ethernet and w
[20:47] <Guest68038> ireless working?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> |Slacker|: READ what I write slowly, it will be clearer
[20:47] <skraps> Errors were encountered while processing:
[20:47] <skraps>  squid
[20:47] <skraps> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:47] <skraps> squid is installed and configured , I dont want to remove it
[20:47] <saladin1980> urlin2u is there a way to point me right direction i have tried dif ways and nothing seems to make it able to bootable win7 usb:(
[20:48] <ityler15> edbian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/665993/
[20:49] <urlin2u> saladin1980, format the thumb to a NTFS put a boot flag on it and extract to that partition, some suggest unetbootin,  have not got unetbootin to work, others claim they have, this is 2 different methods.
[20:49] <edbian> ityler15: sudo apt-get purge firmware-b43legacy    (that is firmware for a card you don't have so we'll remove it)
[20:49] <edbian> ityler15: then let's get the firmware we do need (although I'm pretty sure you already have it).  sudo apt-get install firwmare-b43-installer
[20:49] <FlavioTrashPunk> deep web
[20:50] <saladin1980> urlin2u unet don't work i tried it ONLY supports linux distros:(   so i will try the boot flag and such and see if that works..   (using gpart i assume to do the flagging)
[20:51] <jnsl_> how can i uninstall samba with command line ?
[20:51] <urlin2u> saladin1980, if your using a p2p W7 don't you can't be sure your safe, is all I will say beyond this.
[20:51] <ityler15> edbian: every single code ive ran has come up with an error
[20:52] <edbian> ityler15: what error?  (probably something about broken packages?)
[20:52] <Polah> saladin1980: Windows doesn't like booting from USBs due to the USB bus restarting when devices are plugged in or removed.
[20:52] <saladin1980> urlin2u its my student edition:)  its a valid nothing illegal on this one:)
[20:52] <ityler15> edbian:http://paste.ubuntu.com/665997/
[20:52] <edbian> ityler15: reading...
[20:53] <saladin1980> polah, ulin2u so thee is no way to do it effectivly then?
[20:53] <ityler15> edbian: everything is about a legacy driver
[20:53] <urlin2u> saladin1980, just posting the requisite warning, that is what mine is W7 pro, ;)
[20:53] <edbian> ityler15: sudo apt-get purge firmware-b43legacy-installer   (let's just get rid of it)
[20:53] <Polah> saladin1980: I believe it IS possible to have a running copy of Windows from a USB drive, but it would require some hackery to make it work.
[20:54] <Quark1536> Can someone please help me to get my Ethernet and wireless working on my laptop?
[20:54] <urlin2u> Polah, it is easy a ntfs partition a boot flag and extract to it.
[20:54] <urlin2u> Polah, XP much harder. ;)
[20:54] <saladin1980> urlin2u , polah i am just tring to make it a install win 7 from the usb
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> Quark1536: can you give a pastebin of:  lspci | grep -i network
[20:55] <ityler15> edbian: finally no error ;)
[20:55] <Polah> urlin2u: Really? I'm sure there was some funky configuration that needed to be done so Windows wouldn't poop its pants when the USB bus disappears for a moment when something else is plugged it
[20:55] <edbian> ityler15: sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source and sudo apt-get purge broadcom-sta-source
[20:56] <Polah> saladin1980: Oh, if you want to install Windows from USB then that's easier. I thought you wanted an actual running operating system. Either way, #windows could probably help you more.
[20:56] <|Slacker|> ActionParsnip: sorry dude, but I didn't get it :(
[20:56] <urlin2u> Polah, always has worked for me actually the multisystem multi iso usb loader will do it as well.
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> |Slacker|: look around the system, it will have a make and model on a sticker some please
[20:56] <ActionParsnip> *place
[20:56] <Quark1536> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/665998/
[20:56] <saladin1980> polah , urlin2u i will be back if they can't help bc there prolly not linux:) and i am in linux doing this:) LOL
[20:57] <Polah> saladin1980: Yeah, but they can tell you how it should be set up and then you can come back here and we can tell you how to make it so
[20:57] <ActionParsnip> Quark1536: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1721229   nice PPA to install the driver for you :)
[20:57] <urlin2u> saladin1980, the multisystem usb loader and the ntfs as described will work, or at least have every time I have done it.
[20:58] <ityler15> edbian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/666000/
[20:58] <Quark1536> ActionParsnip, Thank you!
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> |Slacker|: try:  sudo dmidecode -t 1
[20:58] <urlin2u> saladin1980, there is a windows usb loader if you can get to a windows set up as admin as well.
[20:58] <saladin1980> yea just tring to make it so can install windows from the usb not run it;)   (urlin2u, polah)
[20:58] <urlin2u> saladin1980, duh I know that.
[20:58] <edbian> ityler15: you should now see that sudo lspci -k   no longer lists the wl driver
[20:59] <jnsl_> how can i uninstall samba on ubuntu? i can find a lot of guides on how to install, but none on how to uninstall it :)
[20:59] <BlueWolf> Hi all :D
[20:59] <Trond--> I have bought a new computer which I will install Win7 to. Then I reboot with Ubuntu 11.04 in CD-rom which I will install, but how do I select where to install Ubuntu?
[20:59] <saladin1980> just making sure :)  and well no one is on the windows channel is talking ARG  (urlin2u , polah)
[20:59] <ikonia> jnsl_: open the package manager, find samba, click remove
[20:59] <urlin2u> saladin1980, the ntfs is throwing you of it is not a install but a load for install.
[20:59] <urlin2u> off
[20:59] <jnsl_> ikonia i need to do it on my server
[20:59] <Polah> saladin1980: Yeah, they're a lot slower over there
[20:59] <ikonia> Trond--: it will ask you in the install process
[20:59] <ikonia> jnsl_: ok, so it on your server
[20:59] <jnsl_> ikonia i dont have a gui :(
[21:00] <ikonia> jnsl_: use the command line
[21:00] <saladin1980> ohh i understand the ntfs:)   IT person but i am lost to the a point i have done all i can do with this lil pos computer and well it won't do much anymore:) LOL
[21:00] <BlueWolf> How would I go about burning a movie to a DVD, and enable it to work on a DVD player?
[21:00] <ikonia> jnsl_: or install a gui
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> jnsl_: sudo apt-get install samba     will install samba for you
[21:00] <jwash|2> hi everyone, i have a nice little laptop i want to give my niece. it needs to be locked down tightly, is there wa way i can get it to automatically scan wireless networks, crack one  and then "call home"?
[21:00] <jnsl_> im not sure what command to use for uninstall though
[21:00] <Trond--> ikonia, it will be on C: then I guess. How do I see Ubuntu from Windows Explorer? Will it show as C:\Ubuntu?
[21:00] <ikonia> jwash|2: "crack one" ?
[21:00] <ityler15> edbian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/666002/
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> jnsl_: I can give you my smb.conf if you want, makes shares on my server :)
[21:00] <jwash|2> yea
[21:00] <ikonia> Trond--: you don't see it from windows
[21:01] <jwash|2> cause she won't know the key
[21:01] <jwash|2> and likely won't know/figure out how to configure
[21:01] <edbian> ityler15: See at the bottom?  wl is gone now (you can reboot to test)
[21:01] <jnsl_> im trying to remove samba to free up memory :)
[21:01] <ikonia> jwash|2: you don't crack wireless networks, that's illegal, do not ask again.
[21:01] <Trond--> ikonia, Will I see Win7 folder from Ubuntu?
[21:01] <ikonia> Trond--: if you mount your ubuntu disk
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> jnsl_: sudo apt-get --purge remove samba
[21:01] <jnsl_> cool thanks, ill try that
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> jnsl_: will uninstall the service entirely
[21:01] <jwash|2> even if it belongs to her household?
[21:01] <ikonia> jwash|2: yes,
[21:02] <Trond--> hm
[21:02] <Trond--> How do I check how much space Ubuntu takes?
[21:02] <Trond--> from the OS
[21:02] <Trond--> I am running Ubuntu now
[21:02] <urlin2u> saladin1980, this works as well. http://liveusb.info/dotclear/  just translate if needed.
[21:03] <fbnts> Anybody know if its possible to adjust the colours on ubuntu (the HDMI output to my TV is showing wrong colors)
[21:03] <ikonia> Trond--: it will be roughly 2.2GB as a default install
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> Trond--: df -h
[21:04] <BlueWolf> How would I go about burning a movie to a DVD, and enable it to work on a DVD player?
[21:04] <ikonia> BlueWolf: depends what format it's currently in
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> BlueWolf: use devede
[21:04] <Gentoo64> Blue1, devede
[21:04] <jnsl_> hmm would changing the NumServers directive in apache free up memory ?
[21:04] <Trond--> ikonia, if I make a mistake when I install Ubuntu about how much space I want for the OS can I later expand it?
[21:05] <edbian> Trond--: yes
[21:05] <urlin2u> saladin1980, if you try the multisystem app I have found it work only if formatted with gparted, probably the disk utility works as well.
[21:05] <edbian> Trond--: using a liveCD
[21:05] <ikonia> Trond--: it depends on a lot of things, but normally - yes
[21:05] <Trond--> edbian, run Ubuntu, put in liveCD?
[21:05] <ityler15> edbian: thanks soooooo much, thats what drove me from ubuntu before , but now it wont:D
[21:05] <BlueWolf> ikonia: Sorry what format? How would I go about doing it with brasero?
[21:05] <edbian> Trond--: I don't understand the question.
[21:05] <edbian> ityler15: sure :)
[21:06] <Trond--> edbian, mm nvm actually. cheers
[21:06] <ikonia> BlueWolf: what format is the movie currently in
[21:06] <edbian> Trond--: ok :)
[21:06] <saladin1980> urlin2u i just did a format with ntfs and then took that and then reparted it so it would recognize as a bootable and then took that with the iso..(after making stupied computer read it)  extracted into it and now just waiting for extraction to finish
[21:07] <urlin2u> saladin1980, cool I think that will be it, I have used that methid about 10 times without a failure, make sure the boot flag is ther gparted will show it.
[21:07] <ityler15> edbian:  now, should i remove windows xp completely from my computer? what do you think?
[21:08] <BlueWolf> ikonia: It's in MV4, What format dose it need to be in? Avi? I have Arist Trancecoder installed on my machine to convert it. . . . .
[21:09] <urlin2u> saladin1980, interestingly that ISO has all the official releases on it as well.
[21:09] <physically_fit> anyone knows a good site for proxies? i need a proxy From finland. Thanks.
[21:09] <ikonia> physically_fit: please don't ask for that sort of thing in here
[21:10] <physically_fit> message me
[21:10] <ikonia> physically_fit: do not ask again
[21:10] <ityler15> Bluewolf: in north america youll need to convert  it to NTSC format
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> doesn't devede sort the who ntsc nonesense out
[21:11] <edbian> ityler15: oh def  get rid of it!
[21:11] <ikonia> I believe so
[21:11] <BlueWolf> ityler15: No need to worry about that. I'm not in north America. I'm in Southern Africa. . . . . . .  What then?
[21:12] <ityler15> BlueWolf: hold on.....
[21:12] <ActionParsnip> BlueWolf: the GUI is quite comprehensive, just set it to whatever you need
[21:13] <BlueWolf> ActionParsnip: Ok now I'm getting confused?
[21:13] <Bottles> I was wondering, I have Ubuntu, and installed kubuntu-desktop to try out KDE, if I wanted to switch, is there a way to completely shift from Ubuntu to Kubuntu and get rid of Gnome?
[21:13] <ikonia> Bottles: just remove the gnome packages
[21:14] <saladin1980> urlin2u what iso u talking about?
[21:14] <aguitel> Bottles, see that :http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[21:14] <guntbert> whokm should i ask about the ubuntu installer guesses the correct time zone?
[21:15] <guntbert> *whom
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> Bottles: if you remove the gnome libs, it should cause the rest to fails deps an need removing
[21:15] <ikonia> guntbert: in what way ?
[21:15] <ActionParsnip> BlueWolf: what standard does your TV signal use?
[21:15] <urlin2u> saladin1980, the W7 ISO or a DVD has all the release from MS within the bit amount 32 0r 64, you have ultimate to the ones below it is a file inside that controls what you offred per your purchase.
[21:16] <Bottles> Cool, thanks guys
[21:16] <saladin1980> ohhh yea i knew that urlin2u its all controled by the key you put in to the install that controls what is actually installed or not installed:)
[21:16] <ikonia> saladin1980: try asking in ##windows
[21:16] <urlin2u> saladin1980, good to know if you want to upgrade or due and need to reinstall or work on others computers.
[21:17] <BlueWolf> ActionParsnip: To be honest, I have no clue. Is it not as simple as burning the movie to the dvd and playing it on the dvd player?
[21:17] <guntbert> ikonia: on installation it already suggests my correct time zone and I'm curious as to how that is accomplished (it is the step after selecting the drive layout)
[21:17] <saladin1980> ikonia already been there:) LOL
[21:17] <ikonia> guntbert: I believe it's a number of methods. your time held in the bios and if possible your ISP
[21:17] <ikonia> saladin1980: ok - so that's where you need to continue that conversation
[21:18] <ityler15> BlueWolf: cant really find if it needs to be NTSC or PAL, all ive found so far is that your region code is 2
[21:18] <urlin2u> saladin1980, cool some don't know this, that you xcan remove the file and choose the install you want, then use the key for that version.
[21:18] <ikonia> urlin2u: please take this conversation to ##windows
[21:18] <kernix> hi all
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> BlueWolf: if you use the wrong TV standard it won't work so well. You could try it and see if your hardware is smart enough to work it out. Remember to burn the ISO as slowly as you can
[21:19] <urlin2u> ikonia, no problem but it is a thumb load from ubuntu I think there set.
[21:19] <saladin1980> ikonia if u actually know what we were talking about good otherwise stop;) but still waiting on the extract to see if that worked to make the usb bootable... have to check the gpart again urlin2u
[21:19] <BlueWolf> ityler15: I think it's PAL.
[21:20] <ikonia> saladin1980: stop the discussion about windows, and the license keys, and associated topic - understood ?
[21:20] <saladin1980> Nope
[21:20] <guntbert> ikonia: thats entirely possible, would that be a question to ask on launchpad (I have a hard time imagining how it would know my ISP...)
[21:21] <nikolam> Who is a guy responsible for killing help.ubuntu.com by requiring to run google.com JavaScripts to just using search on help.ubuntu.com?
[21:21]  * auronandace wonders why people don't want to stay on-topic
[21:21] <urlin2u> ikonia, sorry about that. ;)
[21:21] <nikolam> Am I using ubuntu or google OS?
[21:21] <ikonia> guntbert: if you give me a few hours, I can figure it out for you, I've never looked at it properly
[21:21] <BlueWolf> ActionParsnip. Ok the movie is M4v format, so I would have to convert it with Arista, to what? AVI???
[21:21] <ikonia> urlin2u: not a problem
[21:21] <ikonia> nikolam: what did you install ?
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> BlueWolf: should be ok, the system will tell you if it can accept the files
[21:22] <nikolam> ikonia, I am using Ubuntu from 2007, thank you very much. But some guy at google docs just screwed help. ubuntu.com sire, requreing me to run Google.com Javascript, that I do NOT allow on my browsers, because Google is privat einformation PIG.
[21:22] <BlueWolf> ActionParsnip: M4v Ok. I thought it would not work?
[21:22] <guntbert> ikonia: that would be awfully nice, no need to hurry anything :-))
[21:22] <blakebrinkley> hello
[21:22] <ikonia> guntbert: I'm slightly interested myself now
[21:23] <nikolam> Use Noscript and BLOCk google tracking of you all over internet!
[21:23] <nikolam> got to go now but will be back.
[21:23] <guntbert> ikonia: I guessed as much :)
[21:23] <ikonia> guntbert: I know it uses those two techniques, however I don't know for certain if they are "fact" in terms of "the" deciding factor
[21:23] <ikonia> guntbert: or if there are more deciders
[21:23] <sqrt7744> Hi, I'm on 11.04, does anyone know how to have vlc automatically handle DVDs? Totem doesn't really work well, if I try to skip forward it craps out.
[21:23] <blakebrinkley> Can anybody help me?
[21:24] <tntc> sqrt7744: vlc does, yeah
[21:24] <ityler15> BlueWolf: i cant really find a PAL encoder for Linux hold on
[21:24] <guntbert> ikonia: no worries, as it is not really important, only something "nice to know"
[21:24] <ikonia> guntbert: yes, I'm interested too
[21:24] <BlueWolf> ActionParsnip: Ok how would I burn the movie in brasero????
[21:24] <guntbert> !ask | blakebrinkley
[21:25] <sqrt7744> tntc, i would like vlc to launch when a DVD is inserted, or at least in nautilus the "launch movie player" button should launch vlc...
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> BlueWolf: it makes a standard DVD ISO. Why not just TRY the software and see, saves all these needless questions which you would answer yourself. If you get issues then ask
[21:26] <phoenixsampras> anyone by chance  , knows whats the admin user for moodle?
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> !info moodle
[21:27] <urlin2u> sqrt7744, the properties right click will give you the default media player.
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> phoenixsampras: may help http://docs.moodle.org/20/en/Step-by-step_Install_Guide_for_Ubuntu
[21:27] <sqrt7744> ok I figured it out, if you change /etc/gnome/defaults.list i changed totem.desktop to vlc.desktop
[21:28] <urlin2u> sqrt7744, that works as well. ;)
[21:28] <BlueWolf> ActionParsnip: Ok I have an issue, I have only use brasero for games, and the ubuntu live CD, nothing more, I don't use it much. What do I do to burn the movie on? How would I go about it? :D Please if you don't mind?
[21:29] <sqrt7744> urlin2u, yep, I'm not sure what properties window you are talking about, I can do that for file of a certain type, but I don't know how to do it for a disc. Anyway, solved now, but thanks
[21:30] <urlin2u> sqrt7744, ant media and evry thing clickable has a right click and properties option, kind of usefull to know you can change icons from there and other activities.
[21:30] <urlin2u> any
[21:31] <blakebrinkley> Hello?
[21:31] <urlin2u> blakebrinkley, whats up, :)
[21:32] <zagabar> Lol. one of my friend's server's accounts got broken into. The perpetrator wgetted some compressed archives hitten as jpg-files, extracted them and they contained a shitload of scripts and stuff. Seems like it installed muh the irc bouncer and had scripts for hiding processes. When digging around in the files it led me to an irc-channel on undernet containing a lot of nicks of the same name, but with__ after. Is this some kind of co
[21:32] <ikonia> zagabar: that's nothing to do with ubuntu, and please control your language
[21:32] <zagabar> ikonia: sorry for my language. I know it has nothing to do with ubuntu but I thought someone might answer anyway.
[21:33] <ikonia> zagabar: sorry, this channel is just for ubuntu support
[21:33] <zagabar> Alright, sorry.
[21:33] <jimcooncat> Hi, installing Ubuntu Lucid on a new Acer. Would like to keep the factory Windows install. It comes with these partitions: PQSERVICE (30GB), SYSTEM RESTORE (105 MB), Acer (145 GB) and DATA (145 GB). Do I repartition the last two for the Ubuntu install?
[21:33] <ikonia> zagabar: thanks
[21:33] <sqrt7744> #netsec?
[21:33] <zagabar> sqrt7744: Asking me?
[21:34] <sqrt7744> zagabar, just a suggestion, though it isn't on freenode, you'll have to look around
[21:34] <urlin2u> jimcooncat, back up the W7ninstall before you do anything.
[21:34] <ikonia> sqrt7744: you've just saw me say we don't support this - so drop the conversation
[21:34] <zagabar> sqrt7744: Ah thanks
[21:34] <sqrt7744> ikonia, i was just mentioning a more appropriate channel
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> jimcooncat: sounds good to me, I recommend you take an image of the restore partition before hand, as a backup (restore partitions are such a pain i the ass)
[21:35] <ikonia> sqrt7744: it's not appropriate, - stop now.
[21:35] <leo_> Hola
[21:35] <leo_> Buenas tardes
[21:35] <szal> !es | leo_
[21:36] <dougl> on my ubuntu 10.10 installation my Remote Desktop configuration only indicates 'localhost' for a connection - there doesnt seem to be access on my IP - can someone suggest a fix?
[21:36] <BlueWolf> ActionParsnip: Ok I have an issue, I have only use brasero for games, and the ubuntu live CD, nothing more, I don't use it much. What do I do to burn the movie on? How would I go about it?  Please if you don't mind?
[21:36] <w30> join #fedora
[21:36] <szal> !info ttf-ubuntu-font-family
[21:36] <szal> !info ttf-ubuntu-font-family oneiric
[21:37] <CynicisM> guys im trying to get VMware sever to install but i dont think i can reach the repo for it, ive added conical to the source list tho, well unselected the # from infront of it
[21:38] <ikonia> !vmware | CynicisM
[21:38] <yeats> CynicisM: do you have a particular reason for using VMWare over Linux KVM or Virtualbox?
[21:38] <CynicisM> none at all
[21:38] <yeats> !kvm | CynicisM
[21:39] <CynicisM> just presumed it was the most reliable as its what we use at university
[21:39] <yeats> CynicisM: KVM is very stable and is getting better all the time
[21:39] <CynicisM> okay ty
[21:40] <jorge> Hello
[21:40] <edbian> jorge: hi
[21:41] <Felixtehcat> j/ linux
[21:41] <gccster> guys i get this error from my local webserver Fatal error: Unknown: Failed opening required '/home/user/public_html/art/index.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 0
[21:42] <gccster> what can be wrong it was working until a few days before
[21:42] <yeats> gccster: does the file exist?
[21:42] <jorge> Im very amateur in linux, but I got inlove with it :D haha specially "Unity" interface
[21:42] <ikonia> gccster: what webserver are you using ?
[21:42] <gccster> apache and php5
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> gccster: do both folders exist?
[21:42] <ikonia> gccster: how did you install it ?
[21:43] <gccster> it was installed from apt-get, the files does not exist but when i use virtualhost it all works
[21:43] <gccster> how is this possible?
[21:43] <ikonia> gccster: which file ?
[21:43] <gccster> the path /usr/share/php
[21:43] <gccster> and pear
[21:44] <gccster> what can be wrong i cant believe it was working before a few days
[21:44] <ikonia> gccster: I suspect it's the file index.php referencing an include which doesn't exist from the cwd (if you look it's ./usr/share/blah, not /usr/share/blah)
[21:44] <evilkarl> rver irc.austnet.org
[21:45] <gccster> ikonia, even if i use empty index.php i get the same error
[21:45] <almoxarife> I want to say a big no thanks to the aprox 1300 nicks who were here 2 nights ago my time, if this channel is about snoots parking their  nicks with nothing to do but moderate to the little people then you need a life, I found my own answers no thanks to anyone here, and I say this as someone who does try to help people like me who are NOT linux gurus, UBUNTU is suppose to be for people like me, the newbee geek, and YOU the guru shou
[21:45] <ikonia> gccster: for the same reason no doubt
[21:45] <CynicisM> yeats, apprently my hardware doesnt support virtualisation but ive run slackware on windows virtual machine before
[21:46] <ikonia> almoxarife: you're muted - contact me if you're done ranting
[21:46] <edbian> CynicisM: You don't have to have hardware support for virtualization.  It just usually makes it faster
[21:46] <CynicisM> okie dokie
[21:46] <ETronik> Hey all! I can't seem to get unity running in my 11.04 setup (I have the drivers, etc etc), when I run unity in the terminal, I get an empty desktop with only the desktop background, I don't even know how to logout... Help appreciated, TIA
[21:46] <TYDIRocks> edbian, hey buddy
[21:46] <edbian> TYDIRocks: hello
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> CynicisM: it wil, possibly doesn't support 64bit guests
[21:47] <CynicisM> ETronik, boot into classic mode and install your graphic driver from there, then unity should work, i had the same issue
[21:47] <gccster> ikonia, i didnt understand what is wrong
[21:47] <CynicisM> ActionParsnip, ty
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> ETronik: if you press CTRL+ALT+T do you get a terminal?
[21:47] <TYDIRocks> edbian, maybe you could help me with this. I just installed backtrack, but for some reason it boots up to Ubuntu, it doesn't give me a choice
[21:47] <urlin2u> ETronik, have you been tweaking compiz?
[21:47] <gccster> ikonia, what should i change?
[21:47] <ETronik> ActionParsnip: no idea...
[21:47] <edbian> TYDIRocks: go into ubuntu and run sudo update-grub   then it should list both in a menu.  For the record this is #ubuntu support not backtrack support
[21:47] <ETronik> urlin2u: don't think so
[21:48] <ikonia> gccster: are you using mod user_dir ?
[21:48] <edbian> TYDIRocks: also, slow down!  distro-hopping is addictive
[21:48] <gccster> yes
[21:48] <TYDIRocks> edbian, I'm aware, just since Ubuntu is half of it so :p
[21:48] <TYDIRocks> edbian, these are the only 2 distros I should need :D
[21:48] <gccster> ikonia, i do
[21:48] <edbian> TYDIRocks: sure :)  That's why I answered
[21:48] <ETronik> urlin2u: It has been like this since my first install of 11.04 from scratch on this PC
[21:48] <TYDIRocks> edbian, also the backtrack irc is dead lol
[21:48] <edbian> TYDIRocks: There should be only 1 distro you need :P   In an ideal world
[21:48] <ikonia> gccster: disable it, and test
[21:48] <edbian> TYDIRocks: Yes I believe that
[21:48] <TYDIRocks> edbian, oh wait I typed in the wrong irc
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> ETronik: then press it and you will have an idea
[21:49] <edbian> ha
[21:49] <urlin2u> ETronik, you saw the post on getting to the tty.
[21:50] <ETronik> urlin2u: post ? you mean here in this channel?  by you?
[21:50] <TYDIRocks> edbian, so I ran that command. If I restart I should be prompted to choose one?
[21:50] <urlin2u> ETronik, no by ActionParsnip  crtl-alt-f2
[21:50] <edbian> TYDIRocks: yes (did the command state that it found backtrack?)
[21:50] <BlueWolf> ActionParsnip: Ok I have an issue, I have only use brasero for games, and the ubuntu live CD, nothing more, I don't use it much. What do I do to burn the movie on? How would I go about it?
[21:50] <ETronik> urlin2u: I tried all sorts of key combinations... nothing...
[21:51] <TYDIRocks> edbian, oh crap forgot to check, already shut down lol
[21:51] <edbian> TYDIRocks: that's ok
[21:51] <ETronik> urlin2u: so I switch the notebook and turn it back on, where I get into the classic Ubuntu
[21:52] <physically_fit> anyone from FINLAND that can do me a favor? (download a clip for me). message me. thank you very much.
[21:52] <TYDIRocks> edbian, okay I wasn't prompted, but the linux thing has 2 more options. It added Ubuntu with Linux 2.6.38 (on /dev/sda6) and then the same with recovery mode
[21:52] <ETronik> urlin2u: I just came across this : http://ubuntu4beginners.blogspot.com/2011/04/missing-top-and-side-panels-in-unity.html
[21:52] <ETronik> urlin2u: might be a possible solution
[21:52] <edbian> TYDIRocks: try those new options.  I think it's wrongly labeling them as Ubuntu (because backtrack is based on ubuntu)
[21:52] <urlin2u> ETronik, your choice it is kind of difficult for anybody to guess the problems being in the classic I assume will be a good start to find answers.
[21:53] <alex__> Русские тут есть ?
[21:53] <TYDIRocks> edbian, thought so, that worked. Is there a way to change the labels?
[21:53] <edbian> TYDIRocks: yes but I don't remember how in grub2
[21:53] <ETronik> urlin2u: yeah thanks, I'll report back soon
[21:53] <edbian> TYDIRocks: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[21:54] <TYDIRocks> edbian, would it be Custom Menu Entries?
[21:54] <edbian> TYDIRocks: I don't think so.  That's for adding your own menu entries.  Maybe it will be helpful to understanding though
[21:57] <Neptu> hej small question how i change the icon image of the launcher with 11.04??
[22:00] <Flannel> sig
[22:01] <szal> Flannel: huh?  a blanket ban?
[22:01] <Flannel> szal: I thought we could all use some peace and quiet ;)
[22:01] <szal> heheh
[22:02] <robbmunson> Good thing nobody decided to chat...
[22:03] <holocaust84_> Doobie doobie dooo
[22:04] <keith_> I don't know why, but my connection wasn't being allowed through my router. I just cloned my hard drive with Acronis True Image, installed it, and now it's working fine. I'm not complaining, but I don't understand how I'm back up.
[22:04]  * OerHeks finds holocaust an offensive name, and leaves
[22:04] <Neptu> anyone know how to change the icon from the launcher un 10.04??
[22:05] <holocaust84_>  /assure OerHeks the name is just a Gaming "Handle"
[22:06] <keith_> Is there a way to back up my settings with Ubuntu, just in case I ever need to revert to them?
[22:07] <escott> keith_, depends on which settings
[22:07] <keith_> I'm talking everything, a full back-up
[22:08] <escott> keith_, most "system" settings are in /etc (a few are in the $HOME of the respective application). user settings are in ~/.config and ~/.*
[22:08] <urlin2u> keith_, you have acronis that is a full back up a image correct?
[22:08] <keith_> Yes now I do
[22:09] <gccster> ikonia, it was an open_basedir problem thank you
[22:10] <urlin2u> keith_, I use clonezilla and have a bash with every thing installed and the sources.list saved other then that, and a rysnc of home.
[22:10] <keith_> Ok, I see what you mean..thanks
[22:10] <keith_> Ok. I'm also wondering if 11.04 is worth upgrading to..I have 10.10 now
[22:11] <dougl> on my ubuntu 10.10 installation my Remote Desktop configuration only indicates 'localhost' for a connection - there doesnt seem to be access on my IP - can someone suggest a fix?
[22:11] <urlin2u> keith_, your choice, you will get many answers here. Down load the ISO and try it out and see if you like it
[22:13] <keith_> I'm doing that now..I'm also considering Mint..I'm just glad to be back up
[22:13] <urlin2u> keith_, backups are your best insurance.
[22:13] <infohigh> I installed ubuntu-server on a 500G drive, with a "guided" LVM install.
[22:13] <infohigh> It chose to give me 440G for /home and only 300M for /
[22:14] <infohigh> so a dist-upgrade couldn't even succeed because / ran out of space from kernel modules LoL
[22:14] <amellenico> Ciao a tutti
[22:14] <StevenR> infohigh: so you need to shrink the fs on /home, wiggle the lvm, expand /, and there you go
[22:14] <escott> infohigh, the point of lvm is to leave free space, and allocate more as you need it. not to preallocate everything
[22:14] <StevenR> infohigh: I'd advise a backup before you start of course.
[22:14] <infohigh> StevenR: yeah.  but why would it choose such strange presets?
[22:15] <infohigh> I know how to do the change, I was just amazed it would have chosen such a poor setup :-)
[22:15] <StevenR> infohigh: I don't know. I've never really done "guided" setups. I either go for "do what you like" or "do exactly what I demand" stups
[22:16] <guntbert> !it | amellenico
[22:16] <paulo> Hello
[22:16] <paulo> Is there any one that can help me with a problem I have?
[22:16] <guntbert> hi paulo,  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[22:17] <bindi_> !ask | paulo
[22:17] <maneet> hi
[22:17] <maneet> i want some help
[22:17] <maneet> i was
[22:17] <escott> !enter | maneet
[22:17] <maneet> using the following commant
[22:19] <paulo> I tried to install Veetle and now wen I start up I get the message "could not update ICE authority. the computer starts up any way if I press the buton but I dont Have sound control on task bar menu
[22:19] <paulo> can anyone help me
[22:19] <paulo> ???
[22:19] <maneet> -debuild -S -sa    and i am getting the error      https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted
[22:19] <maneet> can someone pls help regarding that
[22:20] <escott> paulo, open a terminal and type ls -l .ICEauthority
[22:21] <maneet> secret key not available
[22:21] <maneet> gpg: /tmp/debsign.maraBNfm/ed_1.0-0ubuntu1.dsc: clearsign failed: secret key not available
[22:21] <maneet> debsign: gpg error occurred!  Aborting....
[22:21] <maneet> debuild: fatal error at line 1258:
[22:21] <escott> !paste | maneet
[22:21] <holocaust84_> There's an issue with my gaming mouse (R.A.T.5 by Saitek) which focuses only on the current active window, attempting to click on other windows or icons doesn't work.  I used this work around in Xmodmap "pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 0 0 0" but it's causing some sort of interupt issue, resulting in lag and flickering in various aspects of the GUI, any idea what the cause could be?
[22:22] <maneet> hi while using the command -debuild -S -sa i am getting the error public key not avialabe
[22:22] <maneet> can some one help
[22:24] <urlin2u> maneet, do you know the key do you see it in a update from the terminal?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> maneet: if you run:  sudo apt-get update    do you see the same error?
[22:25] <trism> maneet: you need to either build the package unsigned (debuild -uc -us -S -sa) or setup your keys
[22:25] <trism> !pgp | maneet
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> nm, different keys
[22:26] <paulo> escott, I did ls -l .ICEauthority and I get the message: "-rw-------- 1 paulo 11592 2011-08-14 19:19 .ICEauthority the problem is there any way
[22:27] <maneet> ActionParsnip : no i dont get the same error when i use the update command
[22:28] <escott> maneet, those are different keys. you need to do what trism said
[22:28] <sync0pate> Hello ubuntu people
[22:29] <linelevel> Hi, I have a Lenovo Thinkpad T410 running Ubuntu. When I adjust the LCD brightness, the slider moves, but the change does not take effect until I restart the computer. Google has not been helpful. Any suggestions?
[22:30] <cconstantine_> I'm trying to write a PAM module to authenticate a username/password and not having luck.  does anyone have a page describing how to do that?
[22:30] <sync0pate> anyone here know anything about getting a scanner working over the network?
[22:31] <paulo> I tried to install Veetle and now wen I start up I get the message "could not update ICE authority. the computer starts up any way if I press the button but I don’t Have sound control on task bar menu. Can any one help me?
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> sync0pate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo
[22:32] <maneet> trism: how to sutup keys.... i have already made a key using pgp --gen-keys
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> paulo: boot to root recovery mode and chown the file to your user
[22:32] <sync0pate> cheers ActionParsnip
[22:32] <escott> linelevel, have you played around with /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0
[22:32] <sync0pate> I found exactly the same page somewhere but it didnt have the network section! weird
[22:34] <linelevel> escott: No.
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> sync0pate: all I did was websearch...
[22:35] <sync0pate> ActionParsnip, hmm.. fair enough, I've been googling all afternoon :S
[22:35] <paulo> how do i Chown the file
[22:35] <paulo> ????
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> paulo: paulo hold shift at boot, select recovery mode then select root, then run:   chown foo:foo /home/foo/.ICEauthority
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> paulo: change foo for your username
[22:36] <holocaust84_> sync0pate: be sure to select the most recent date order for results (which I often forget to do also), I use Bing but I'm pretty sure Google has this feature also.
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> sync0pate: http://duckduckgo.com/?q=network+scanner+ubuntu
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> sync0pate: came straight up...
[22:36] <rtr-> hello, i have i problem, i cant open new tcp connections it says always "No buffer space available"  what does this cause? doesnt count what i try, elinks google.de says the same "no buffer space available" mysql says "Can't create TCP/IP socket (105)"  any ideas?
[22:36] <paulo> thanks I will try it now
[22:36] <six88six> can anyone recommend the name of a fat32/ntfs recovery/repair tool for ubuntu ?
[22:36] <paulo> see you guys in a minute
[22:37] <sync0pate> Not working anyway ActionParsnip, thanks though. Hmm
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> six88six: foremost can check for files which have been deleted, if that's what you mean?
[22:37] <six88six> ActionParsnip, well that too even if it is another program
[22:38] <linelevel> escott: As a workaround, I can switch to a console tty, and brightness adjustment then works; then I can switch back without trouble.
[22:38] <escott> rtr-, is netstat showing a lot of open connections
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> six88six: I'd go for that, your backups will be the most successful way to recover data
[22:38] <bernhard2>  Installed nginx and php5 php5-fpm the website is working with html not not php the info.php does not show php info. did install apt-get install php5 php5-fpm php-pear php5-common php5-mcrypt php5-mysql php5-cli php5-gd php5-curl php5-imap php5-memcache php-apc restart both nginx and php5-fpm The nginx config files can be found here.. http://pastebin.com/tH4RaYB0
[22:39] <rtr-> escott, netstat |wc -l says 88, shouldnt be too mouch? i have to add, its a vps no real server
[22:39] <walddackel> hi, is ther a tool/media player that can generate awsome visuals to music like winamp?
[22:39] <nessonic7> Hello, having issues with a linksys wrt54g- I can get into the interface but after about a minute it conks out and it shows "cannot be displayed" chrome error
[22:40] <escott> rtr-, netstat -a -t | wc -l (TIME_WAIT would probably also count against you)
[22:40]  * walddackel starts to like irssi
[22:41] <szal> walddackel: try Weechat :P
[22:42] <rtr-> escott, what do you meant with TIME_WAIT would count against me? i have 44 CLOSE_WAIT hanging
[22:42] <trism> maneet: you may be all set now then, you can try building the package again, or try signing the COC as a test: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto#Launchpad%20Key%20Signing
[22:42] <walddackel> szal: it seems to be a bit more userfriendly...
[22:43] <shinsuke> i want to use xen with ubuntu 11.04, windows 7 and xp. is this possible?
[22:43] <walddackel> szal: thx for tzeh hint
[22:44] <nessonic7> I have 30-30-30 reset the router and still have issues
[22:44] <szal> walddackel: yw
[22:44] <walddackel> !xen
[22:44] <escott> rtr-, if there aren't lots of extra connections with -a -t then thats not the problem. what is your txqueuelen in ifconfig
[22:46] <rtr-> escott, its 0
[22:46] <shinsuke> the ubuntu wiki does not write about 11.04. i fear its too early
[22:47] <escott> rtr-, i dont think you want that try sudo ifconfig INTERFACE txqueuelen 1000
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> shinsuke: it's the same difference
[22:48] <rtr-> escott, did it, but doesnt change anything :/
[22:50] <escott> rtr-, i dont know what might be causing that, but you could bounce the interface or reboot
[22:52] <Kaapa> hello everyone. Trying to install ubuntu on a vaio y series. Booting from a usb pen but it gets stuck on the first line (syslinux .... )
[22:52] <rtr-> escott, thanks but i fear i cant get into my box using ssh after reboot
[22:52] <Kaapa> any tips?
[22:53] <Bigbucks> Hello all.
[22:53] <rtr-> escott, do you know a way to kill this close_wait by hand?
[22:53] <urlin2u> Kaapa, you load the thumb with?
[22:54] <urlin2u> thumb=pen
[22:54] <Kaapa> urlin2u: I followed the instructions on the site, used universal usb installer from a win7 in the same laptop
[22:54] <Guest36525> if i have my old .ssh folder how do i reimport my private keys?
[22:55] <urlin2u> kappa, you might try unetbootin.
[22:55] <Kaapa> Guest36525: just copy them
[22:55] <Bigbucks> !blacklist
[22:55] <escott> rtr-, no idea, but i doubt thats the problem
[22:56] <Kaapa> urlin2u: trying
[22:56] <Bigbucks> I am sorry, but what is the command where I can find all the drivers with usb in the name?
[22:56] <escott> glassresistor, you can just copy over the files, or append the data from known_hosts and the like
 I did what you told me to but the problem is there any way
[22:56] <glassresistor> Kaapa: i did should I restart its not showing up
[22:57] <rtr-> okay escott, thank you very much
[22:57] <urlin2u> Bigbucks, lsusb  ?
[22:58] <Bigbucks> That should provide me a list with all the drivers with USB in the name?
[22:58] <glassresistor> escott: im getting permission denied(public key)
[22:59] <glassresistor> escott: after copying them
[22:59] <Kaapa> urlin2u: in case that doesn't work, any other tips?
[22:59] <urlin2u> BigBucks, I don't think so just the usb ports I believe, as far as all drivers with usb not sure.
[22:59] <Kaapa> (this laptop doesn't have a cd drive)
[23:00] <escott> glassresistor, you'll have to be more specific. what system is the host and what the server, and where are you copying files from
[23:00] <urlin2u> Kaapa, lots of usb loader there is one at pendrive linux,
[23:00] <Bigbucks> urlin2u Well, I am running Ubuntu Server 11.04 on an old desktop, and it keeps giving me the following error : [###.######] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 4 and # is replaced with a timer, and the error comes up constantly, and I cannot login
[23:00] <escott> Kaapa, nomodeset if you have switchable graphics
[23:01] <Kaapa> escott: where do I get to set that options, as I think I can't even get a prompt?
[23:02] <glassresistor> so i copied over my .ssh file and restarted, the private key is encrypted but its not asking me for a pass phrase to decrypted it
[23:02] <Kaapa> hum... something like pressing tab or shift
[23:02] <Kaapa> I'll try, rebooting
[23:03] <tabakhase> urlin2u: mooo, ive given up, seems that windows ehere having truble with its 100MB boot partition, reinstalled from scratch, windows first now works just fine...
[23:03] <urlin2u> Kappa, other loader, the nomodeset option is a f6 at the first gui if you get there. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[23:03] <Bigbucks> urlin2u what do you suggest?
[23:04] <urlin2u> tabakhase, I never use the boot partition in Windows 7 only needed if using ultimate and bitlocker.
[23:04]  * tabakhase is using ultimate
[23:04] <urlin2u> Bigbucks, way out of my knowledge area, .:-)
[23:04] <paulo> Encontrei isto aqui em foruns
[23:05] <paulo> parece ser a solução
[23:05] <glassresistor> how do i get ssh-agent to register the new keys
[23:05] <paulo> I solved the problem replacing the .ICEauthority in my home with the .ICEauthority version in /var/lib/gdm and changing ownership to the user.
[23:05] <paulo> Apparently veetle installation had damaged the origin in my home directory
[23:05] <S4nD3r> Hi there
[23:05] <paulo> só não sei como fazer isto
[23:05] <S4nD3r> How to install 2.6.38.10 kernel?
[23:05] <overclucker> windows 7 doesn't create boot partition if you manually partition before installing
[23:05] <paulo> alguém me pode explicar passo por passo?
[23:05] <Jordan_U> !pt | paulo
[23:06] <urlin2u> overclucker, that's the truth. ;-)
[23:06] <tabakhase> and horay, after 4 hours my sectorBySector copy of the otherNotebooks harddrive is done =) next: try too put truecrypt after grub =)
[23:08] <tabakhase> overclucker: yes, and that seemed to be his problem, i had ubuntu installed first and tryed windows on sda3(primary partition) i was able to boot windows by grub, but one iver bootet ubunut sda3 goes busy and im unable to boot windows annymore, insert winrepair BootRex.exe /FixBoot (repairs only partition table), now windows boots again(with grub) until i boot ubuntu, when booting ubuntu its dead again.
[23:09] <glassresistor> ok i had to kill the known_hosts file and it started working
[23:09] <glassresistor> good
[23:09] <urlin2u> tabakhase, you have never purged grub as I suggested and reloaded it, due to unsubstantiated theorys
[23:09] <overclucker> tabakhase: i wasn't aware that truecrypt ws at the stage where multiboot and root volume encryption could coexist
[23:10] <Kaapa> no luck
[23:11] <Kaapa> reformatting the pen drive and trying again
[23:11] <urlin2u> tabakhase, no mention ever of truecrypt a s well.
[23:11] <tabakhase> urlin2u: truecrypt story is another system, dont mix up ;-)
[23:13] <pythonirc101> In python --> When i do "import matplotlib.tri" on windows, it works, on ubuntu -- it doesn't -- what am i missing? (Error: no module named tri) ?
[23:14] <om26er> Python1320, sudo apt-get install python-matplotlib
[23:14] <tabakhase> overclucker: "regarding the internet" its possible to a) pack TCbootloader onto the normal bootpartition and chainload it OR b) TCloader do /dev/sda, pressing escape -> "search for other" and then having grub installed on /dev/sda2 for example
[23:14] <om26er> (thats just my quick google and package search)
[23:15] <shinsuke> can i install xen after i installed my system including configurations and so on? or do i have to install xen first and then start with installing and configuring all my os? thanks
[23:16] <Jordan_U> tabakhase: http://gitorious.org/grub2tc/grub2tc/blobs/master/README For truecrypt and grub2. Note however that Truecrypt licensing is effectively non-Free.
[23:16] <pythonirc101> om26er: I did
[23:16] <om26er> Python1320, and?
[23:16] <pythonirc101> om26er: import matplotlib.tri doesnt work-- seems perhaps ubuntu has an older version of matplotlib?
[23:17] <pythonirc101> om26er: try doing this "import matplotlib.tri" on your box  -- does it work?
[23:17] <om26er> pythonirc101, which version of Ubuntu you use?
[23:17] <om26er> pythonirc101, just a sec
[23:18] <triplc> hi all
[23:19] <tabakhase> hm Jordan_U sure this is neccessary? get me a second
[23:19] <pythonirc101> om26er: any luck?
[23:19] <triplc> how to get a "basic" dev environment? i run "apt-get --no-install-recommends install build-essential".. how i ever i still cannot compile dwm (a basic window manager)
[23:19] <om26er> pythonirc101, its installing for me
[23:19] <urlin2u> triplc, what's up.
[23:19] <om26er> Python1320, i dint had it installed
[23:19] <Jordan_U> tabakhase: For reliable booting, yes.
[23:20] <pythonirc101> om26er: Thanks
[23:20] <triplc> urlin2u: when i run "make" it cannot compile... anyway, just wanna to know which package i need to install other than build-essential to get a basic dev environment
[23:21] <urlin2u> triplc, not sure to be honest.
[23:21] <triplc> oops
[23:21] <zeus_> I'm trying to install boot-repair on my intrepid live cd, and I added this to the software sources "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/yannubuntu/boot-repair-dev/ubuntu intrepid main" but when I search for the boot-repair package in synaptic I get these errors: http://pastebin.com/wNSWghqD
[23:21] <th0r> triplc: you will need the -dev packages for whatever libs are required by the package you are trying to compile...it isn't just a matter of installing build-essential
[23:21] <om26er> pythonirc101, hmm i get the error as well
[23:22] <om26er> pythonirc101, actually it works with python 2.7
[23:22] <pythonirc101> om26er: The problem it seems is that ubuntu's matplotlib is old?
[23:22] <urlin2u> zeus, did you run an update?
[23:22] <seclm193> hello ubuntu world
[23:22] <tabakhase> Jordan_U: hm, these where what ive checked so far, but until know not tryed anything http://nopaste.php-quake.net/55702
[23:22] <om26er> pythonirc101, first i tried python3
[23:22] <zeus_> urlin2u: of what?
[23:22] <pythonirc101> I am using python2.7.1?
[23:23] <om26er> pythonirc101, which version of ubuntu?
[23:23] <urlin2u> zeus, your system when you add to the softwre list you update then search.
[23:23] <pythonirc101> Linux tubuntu 2.6.38-10-server #46-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 28 16:31:00 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[23:23] <pythonirc101> om26er: do i need to run something to upgrade?
[23:23] <urlin2u> zeus_, your system when you add to the software list you update then search.
[23:24] <om26er> pythonirc101, i am really not sure, never played much with python or any language for that matter
[23:24] <pythonirc101> om26er: Python 2.7.1+ (r271:86832, Apr 11 2011, 18:13:53) -- this is my python version.
[23:24] <pythonirc101> is that yours as well?
[23:24] <shinsuke> as hardware virtualization do you recommend xen or kvm for 11.04?
[23:24] <om26er> Python1320, i am using Oneiric alpha-3
[23:25] <pythonirc101> what is oneiric alpha-3? ubuntu version?
[23:25] <coz_> 11.10
[23:25] <om26er> pythonirc101, 11.10 upcoming
[23:25] <arquebus> In the folder window, instead of having the path in text, it has buttons for each folder in the path. Is there any way I can revert back to having the path in text?
[23:25] <om26er> pythonirc101, it has python 2.7.2
[23:26] <compdoc> shinsuke, qemu-kvm works very well
[23:28] <shinsuke> compdoc, do i need to reinstall my system if i want to use kvm?
[23:28] <potatoe> I want to set system wide the bash variable 'force_color_prompt=yes' can this be done without changing each .bashrc for all my existing users ?
[23:29] <compdoc> shinsuke, no. You dont even need a differernt kernel
[23:29] <shinsuke> compdoc, thanks a lot. i will use kvm then
[23:30] <th0r> potatoe: amazing what 'locate bashrc' will show
[23:30] <arquebus> anyone know how I can set the address bar in the folder window to have text address instead of buttons representing each folder in the path?
[23:32] <potatoe> /etc/bash.bashrc is what I wanted
[23:32] <Jordan_U> tabakhase: All of those links are out of date.
[23:34] <Jordan_U> tabakhase: The last one on further inspection isn't out of date, but it's still not ideal.
[23:34] <Richiie> im having big troubles whit my graphic card
[23:34] <mengu> hi. why does (ctrl) + (+) --- zoom feature is not working with gnome-terminal?
[23:35] <Richiie> im using sapphire raden X800XL and i want to revert back to Ubuntu 10.04's graphic card drivers the default ones
[23:35] <ksx4system> is it possible to hack Unity to display launcher on the right side of the screen?
[23:35] <fission6> anyone here using mongodb i just install the package but unsure how to run the upstart script
[23:35] <propman> arquebus:  http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/65
[23:35] <Richiie> im now using my Terminal only i reinstalled GDM but i cant startx im getting a fatal error "no screen"
[23:36] <Richiie> does anyone know an easy soloution to get the default drivers back ?
[23:36] <tabakhase> Jordan_U: basic its same exapt the step with modifing the bootloader... i will try it during the week, your link is saved, thanks (therefore im happy that i invested the 3 hours of cloning my 300gb harddrive =))
[23:36] <KM0201> Richiie: have you tried to reconfigure gdm?
[23:36] <Jordan_U> tabakhase: You're welcome.
[23:36] <Richiie> KM0201: do you mean whit sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm ?
[23:37] <KM0201> Richiie: yes
[23:37] <Richiie> one sec,
[23:37] <CallMeD> hey guys had a prob with unity when i updated from 10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04 where the unity desktop never was initialized  and i was forced to revert to xfce in terminal mode now my sound card is acting up and sending what must be digital info to my sound card which needless to say is  loud and annoying anyone have any suggestions to stop this i'm going insane here
[23:37] <Sebo> Hi, can you tell me which would be the best way to make some virtualBox machine running when the system starts and stopping when it is going down? I was thinking of creating some /etc/init.d/ script or some inittab entries ... however I can not see eny inittab here at Ubuntu server.
[23:37] <Richiie> yes tried that one but it just runs the command no output..
[23:38] <mengu> is there a universal tool that can zoom any windows in my ubuntu 11.04?
[23:38] <Richiie> KM0201: do you have any other suggestions ?
[23:38] <KM0201> Richiie: so it doesn't ask you a series of questions, etc?
[23:38] <Richiie> KM0201: Nothing.. just runs the command and then i get a shell prompt again.
[23:38] <tabakhase> mengu: a mac styled "zoom everywhere"? when you find one ps fwd. to me =)
[23:39] <mengu> yes
[23:39] <Richiie> what's the easisest way to revert back to ubuntu 10.04 ATI graphic drivers ?
[23:39] <maestrojed> ok, n00b question. I followed the instructions to make a USB Drive to use to install Ubuntu on a box. When I boot the box to the USB drive it runs Ubuntu off of the USB drive. How do I install to the HD?
[23:39] <Richiie> and what's the default one's name
[23:39] <KM0201> Richiie: then the command is not running properly, because if you run that command, you get a series of questions you have to answer...
[23:40] <edbian> maestrojed: on the desktop of the USB drive there is an install application
[23:40] <Richiie> KM0201: ok should i try whit aptitude insted ?
[23:40] <tabakhase> maestrojed: no "install ubuntu" shortcut on desktop?
[23:40] <KM0201> Richiie: why would aptitude do anything?
[23:40] <CallMeD> anyone
[23:41] <Richiie> KM0201: true, just a thought
[23:41] <maestrojed> tabakhase No "install Ubuntu" on the desktop.
[23:41] <Richiie> KM0201: but hey there's gotta be a solution to do this.
[23:41] <maestrojed> edblan I see a folder called install which has a file called mt86plus?
[23:41] <edbian> maestrojed: a folder?  Where is this folder?
[23:41] <tabakhase> maestrojed: what image did u used for creating your stick?
[23:42] <maestrojed> tabakhase ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[23:42] <KM0201> Richiie: i did't say there wasn't, just saying aptitude isn't it.. that's a package manager
[23:42] <Richiie> KM0201: my xorg.0.log tells me "fatal error No screen found"
[23:42] <maestrojed> edbian on the desktop I see "ubuntu 11.04amd64" and the icon looks like a usb drive. In there is where I found that install drive
[23:43] <Richiie> "screens found but none have a usable config"
[23:43] <KM0201> Richiie: have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:43] <edbian> maestrojed: it sounds suspiciously like ubuntu is already installed on this computer.  Is that possible?
[23:43] <maestrojed> these are the directions I followed to make the usb drive https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick#Manual%20Approach
[23:43] <tabakhase> maestrojed: did you booted using the stick? dosnt sound like youre in the livecd right now...
[23:43] <Richiie> KM0201: yep same there command runs but no stdout
[23:43] <Richiie> just back to shell again.
[23:43] <CallMeD> hey guys had a prob with unity when i updated from 10.04 to 10.10 to 11.04 where the unity desktop never was initialized and i was forced to revert to xfce in terminal mode now my sound card is acting up and sending what must be digital info to my sound card which needless to say is loud and annoying anyone have any suggestions to stop this i'm going insane here
[23:43] <KM0201> Richiie: you have some other issue going on then
[23:43] <maestrojed> edbian hummmmm…. It is, Its an old HD I wasn't using but… I think you are right
[23:44] <edbian> maestrojed: I think that is what happened
[23:44] <Richiie> KM0201: hmm how can i solve this mess
[23:44] <KM0201> Richiie: i have no idea, those commands should work..
[23:44] <maestrojed> edbian it is, its 10.x. Do'h Thank you. Thank you too tabakhase
[23:44] <Richiie> KM0201: they work but they dont prompt anything...
[23:44] <edbian> maestrojed: sure
[23:45] <Richiie> so obviously therese gotta be something else i can do
[23:45] <tabakhase> please come again =)
[23:45] <KM0201> Richiie: thent hey aren't working
[23:45] <KM0201> both commands ask you a series of questions.
[23:45] <Richiie> KM0201: i belive you but it doesent work for me, so theres gotta be another way of doing this.
[23:45] <Richiie> KM0201: should i list every package of xorg i have installed currently ?
[23:46] <CallMeD> sigh so much for a community ready to help
[23:46] <KM0201> Richiie: sounds like your' above my level of expertise, i dunno.
[23:46] <Richiie> KM0201: well im working whit Linux and have an exam in it but i never relly worked whit ATI cards & Linux
[23:46] <KM0201> CallMeD: worth what you paid for it i guess
[23:47] <Richiie> due to driver issues, because i followed a guide on the net there was a PPA for it, called SWAT-X radeon drivers but i had video issues whit them
[23:48] <Richiie> therefore i need to revert back to the default drivers of ubuntu 10.04 so im asking the whole community how i do that, i removed the ppa and i have purged and reinstalled GDM but now i cant start my X.. lol so does anybody have a clue what i can do ?
[23:48] <CallMeD> i had hoped i would at least get a response and not just ignored
[23:48] <Richiie> or do i need to ask on the gentoo channel?....
[23:48] <KM0201> Richiie: what does gentoo have to do w/ ubntu?
[23:48] <KM0201> CallMeD: well, i gave you two responses.
[23:49] <Richiie> KM0201: nothing just ironic that people here arent answering vital and important questions..
[23:49] <CallMeD> neither of which addressed my problem
[23:49] <willwh> Richiie: you installed some random dirvers from a ppa and broke things?
[23:49] <KM0201> Richiie: uh, i have tried to address your problem, told you it was outside of my expertise, so someone is answering.. not all answers are available all the time << CallMeD you could follow that advise as well
[23:49] <KM0201> willwh: from the sounds of it
[23:50] <Richiie> willwh: no i installed propieraty drivers from a PPA called swat-X
[23:50] <willwh> Richiie: have you actually done a dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server ?
[23:50] <Richiie> but the results that i had in mind were not satisfing me so i want to switch back to the default ones.
[23:50] <willwh> it might just be x-server, Idk
[23:50] <Richiie> willwh: yes i did but i dont get any prompt on my TTY02
[23:50] <willwh> wow
[23:50] <Richiie> it just runs the command then back to shell prompt again.
[23:51] <willwh> so, you mean, ctrl+alt + <7
[23:51] <willwh> you log in
[23:51] <willwh> and it boots you back to login?
[23:51] <Richiie> dont got any ctrl alt 7 it's just blank screen
[23:51] <Raverix> Hello, just installed a fresh Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and MySQL Server, and I'm getting an error when I try to create a database: ERROR 13 (HY000): Can't get stat of './sss' (Errcode: 13)
[23:51] <Richiie> im working whit TTY1 and 2 just because i cant startx
[23:51] <matariel> what up?
[23:51] <Raverix> I know it's a permissions error, but I can't figure out why or how to fix.
[23:52] <willwh> Richiie: alt 7 would be, yes, I meant any number less than 7
[23:52] <CallMeD> all i needed was an idk whats wrong thanks for wasting my time
[23:52] <willwh> Richiie: so, sudo dpkg-reconfigure x11-common
[23:52] <willwh> and no dice?
[23:52] <PamAnderson> is there a way to turn v sync off?
[23:52] <Richiie> willwh: one sec,
[23:53] <Richiie> alright
[23:53] <Richiie> here we go willuh
[23:53] <Richiie> now it's asking me questions...
[23:53]  * PamAnderson is wondering if there is a way to turn off vertical sync in ubuntu
[23:53] <Richiie> "users allowed to start x server, i said anybody"
[23:53] <Richiie> ok now back to shell prompt again, Willuh what's next?
[23:54] <PamAnderson> how do i turn off vsync?
[23:54] <Richiie> "xinit connection refused error 111 unable to connect to X server
[23:55] <Richiie> xinit "no such process error 3 server error
[23:55] <Richiie> what does this mean?
[23:55] <Sebo> How can i create a deamon? I mean something to be run when system starts and stopped before it went down.
[23:55] <arquebus> belated thanks propman, thought no one would answer
[23:56] <Richiie> willwh: what other suggestions do you got?
[23:56] <Sebo> I would need id to be up before initialization of tty# consoles.
[23:56] <propman> arquebus:  work out for you ok?
[23:56] <willwh> Richiie: have you restarted since you did all this?
[23:57] <willwh> argh - phone, back shortly.
[23:57] <arquebus> I just saw the link now, Im going to try it out
[23:58] <Richiie> willwh: yes, i tried to reboot just the same cant startx gnome does not start but i can restart now
[23:58] <Richiie> brb
[23:59] <triplc> hi all