[00:04] <matryx> hi, can someone help me setup a network share so I can grab files from my WinXP PC
[00:28] <raevol> hey guys
[00:29] <raevol> i need to figure out how to shell into my dad's ubuntu computer
[00:29] <raevol> he broke something and isn't competant enough to fix it
[00:29] <raevol> any ideas
[00:29] <Josesordo> I dont have any idea.. xD
[00:29] <raevol> i need to get an ssh in somehow, he's behind a router
[00:29] <Josesordo> if you cant get help here.. you can go to #ubuntu channel ;)
[00:30] <raevol> yea, thanks
[00:34] <Fudge> alt f2 is run right? when i try to open stuff from it, i get web browser
[00:40] <Josesordo> yes.. xfrun4
[00:52] <Fudge> Josesordo  was that to me
[01:09] <Josesordo> Fudge, yes :O
[01:11] <Fudge> yep theyre installed, ctrl escape brings the menu up. im just trying to make stuff work with orca
[01:13] <Fudge> how can i make stuff autostart, nautilus for example
[01:16] <raevol> got it
[03:24] <raevol> hey guys, i get a "things need to be written to decive" popup error (not a libnotify message) whenever i unmount stuff in xubuntu 11.04
[03:24] <raevol> how can i get that error redirected to libnotify, or whatever it's supposed to be directed to?
[05:22] <mltdwn> Sup guys, just installed Xubuntu, and it's running fast and smooth. Do you guys have any post installation tips?
[05:26] <orngjce223> I dunno, you'll accumulate your own over time
[05:26] <orngjce223> It's really your call
[05:26] <orngjce223> I like installing a stupid amount of extra programs afterwards, but I do audio and no doubt you don't
[05:30] <mltdwn> I get that, but I meant things that will make the system run better or add some cool functionality.
[05:34] <orngjce223> Hmm
[05:36] <orngjce223> Unfortunately most of what I know consists of strange ways to get audio moving from program to program, so I'm not sure I could advise you.
[05:38] <orngjce223> To be completely honest, most of the reason I ever respond is to make sure people don't think the channel is completely dead and leave.
[05:40] <mltdwn> I see, so I take it's often quiet?
[05:45] <Unit193> This is kinda the wrong time of night
[05:45] <Unit193> Sun Aug 14 01:45:46 EDT 2011
[05:46] <mltdwn> It's 10pm in California.
[05:53] <orngjce223> Yes, but most people come here while they are on lunchbreak or right after work on the East Coast
[05:53] <orngjce223> Thus California noon and early afternoon
[05:54] <orngjce223> Not that it's much more active, mind, but somewhat.
[08:06] <Besogon> HI! Could anybody tell me What program is used to view logs?
[08:06] <Besogon> in ubuntu
[08:10] <philipballew> Besogon, cant you just view the text files from nano or vi
[08:12] <Besogon> philipballew, ubuntu has a gui program where you have ability to watch all logs in one place
[08:12] <philipballew> ahh, thats right
[08:13] <philipballew> Log Viewer
[08:15] <Besogon> gnome-system-log
[08:15] <Besogon> package
[08:19] <jrmy> so reinstalled again.. hopefully I won't have to another time. first question how do I remove a repository I added, or does it remove it after teh update command. 2 how do I add oracle sun java? I think I only need the repo 'cause I'm pretty sure the installation would be called sun-java6
[08:19] <Sysi> !java
[08:20] <jrmy> Sysi: do I have to remove the other repo I tried that didn't work?
[08:21] <Sysi> what repo is it?
[08:21] <jrmy> I don't remember
[08:21] <jrmy> but I think it's an outdated one
[08:21] <jrmy> idk could'nt find anything current with googling things so I had to come here
[08:21] <koptein> is there any gui-program to connect to a ssh server and transfer files in Xubuntu (similar to the 'connect to server' option in nautilus)
[08:22] <philipballew> putty?
[08:22] <koptein> i googled a lot but i guess i had the wrong keywords :D
[08:22] <koptein> philipballew: does putty manage to mount the remote filesystem into the local?
[08:22] <Sysi> koptein: if you have 11.04, filemanager can do it
[08:23] <koptein> Sysi: oh
[08:23] <koptein> Sysi: where is that option?
[08:23] <Sysi> there's "network" in side panel
[08:24] <koptein> Sysi: seems that there are just samba shares
[08:24] <Sysi> jrmy: I think there is some GUI for managing repositories but I can't remember what it is/was.. anything under menu → system ?
[08:25] <Sysi> koptein: it should suport ssh too, browsing maybe doesn't work (I haven't used network shares myself) you could try gigolo too
[08:25] <jrmy> I'll check update manager and click settings
[08:27] <jrmy> Sysi: I think I found it.. removed it. now I'll ad the other one
[08:27] <koptein> Sysi: gigolo is exactly what i needed. thank you
[08:27] <Sysi> np
[08:30] <kbmaniac> help, booted xubuntu this morning, no "min", "max", "close" buttons or bar at the top, cant access any of my other 5 virtual desktops, all new windows open top LHS of window, no smart placement ... anyone any idea what to do ?
[08:32] <jrmy> Sysi: it looks like sun java has been removed.. I don't think I can get it this way anymore
[08:32] <jrmy> aka it didn't work
[08:32] <jrmy> no java I guess :[
[08:33] <jrmy> need the real thing too because of the apps I use
[08:34] <jrmy> unless the maverick partnet works
[08:36] <jrmy> nope..
[08:39]  * Besogon <%.?&!@# wanted to tune Apache, and read about Vim, but is sitting and reading damn rsyslog.conf!!!
[09:22] <jrmy_> whatever
[09:27] <philipballew> jrmy, you need to install java
[09:27] <philipballew> i can help
[09:28] <philipballew> i have jave on my ubuntu 11.04
[09:29] <jrmy_> philipballew: ok, and how do you get it?
[09:30] <philipballew> you want sun java i assume?
[09:30] <jrmy_> yes
[09:30] <philipballew> alright. you need the connincal partner repo enabled
[09:30] <jrmy_> archive.canonical.com?
[09:31] <philipballew> im gonna have you edit a text file with sudo and not
[09:31] <philipballew> can you do that from the terminal?
[09:31] <jrmy_> are you asking if i know how to use the terminal?
[09:31] <jrmy_> that would be yes
[09:32] <jrmy_> do I know how to do exactly what you're asking, no
[09:32] <jrmy_> but I expect instruction anyways
[09:32] <Myrtti> !partner
[09:33] <philipballew> alright. sweet. I want you do 2 things: here they are go to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[09:33] <jrmy_> Myrtti: thanks I knew that already
[09:33] <philipballew> keep that open
[09:33] <jrmy_> I'll use paste2.org
[09:33] <philipballew> sure thing
[09:34] <philipballew> now run nano /etc/apt/sources.list and paste everything in the file  there so i can see it
[09:34] <jrmy> thought you said sudo?
[09:34] <philipballew> thats next :)
[09:34] <jrmy> oh lol
[09:34] <philipballew> nano is a file editos
[09:35] <philipballew> *editor
[09:35] <jrmy> i know..
[09:35] <philipballew> Oh, I have no idea what you know dude :)
[09:35] <philipballew> sorry
[09:35] <jrmy> don't take it offensively
[09:35] <jrmy> I know that you don't know
[09:36] <philipballew> no worries. we dont need any sudo root as i was just wanting to see what in the file so i can see if the repo is not # off'ed
[09:37] <philipballew> anything good in the file?
[09:40] <jrmy> philipballew: http://paste2.org/p/1584177
[09:40] <jrmy> well that took alittle while
[09:41] <philipballew> i see!
[09:41] <philipballew> line 56 and 57
[09:41] <philipballew> you see those have a # in front
[09:42] <philipballew> now your gonna wanna uncomment them.
[09:42] <jrmy> yeah.. i see that now that you pointed that out
[09:42] <philipballew> run the previous comand to open nano with sudo
[09:42] <philipballew> then uncomment those
[09:42] <philipballew> then sudo apt-get update
[09:43] <philipballew> jrmy, dont worry, Its all good :)
[09:43] <jrmy> yeah get teh sudo now
[09:43] <jrmy> lol
[09:44] <philipballew> if it was the last comand you entered just type sudo !!
[09:44] <philipballew> sudo bang bang will run the previous comand with sudo in front
[09:45] <jrmy> what?
[09:45] <jrmy> I'm sure i get what to do now though
[09:46] <philipballew> for sure. ill explain sudo !!
[09:46] <philipballew> sudo !! runs the comand you entered right before you entered sudo !! with sudo privlieges
[09:47] <jrmy> you confused me with bang bang and !!
[09:47] <jrmy> I know that sudo lets you do things with root permissions
[09:48] <philipballew> for sure here let me give you an example: type
[09:48] <philipballew> apt-get update
[09:48] <SaaMmY> what is happening
[09:48] <philipballew> ^in terminal
[09:48] <philipballew> SaaMmY, helping him install java on xubuntu
[09:48] <jrmy> philipballew: I understand
[09:48] <SaaMmY> oh fine
[09:48] <SaaMmY> help me too
[09:49] <philipballew> SaaMmY, why? with what?
[09:49] <SaaMmY> I wish get again my java in both browsers
[09:49] <SaaMmY> chromium and firefos
[09:49] <SaaMmY> ff
[09:49] <philipballew> jrmy, did you install java yet?
[09:49] <jrmy> yeah
[09:49] <philipballew> nice!
[09:49] <philipballew> SaaMmY, what are you asking?
[09:50] <jrmy> well I'm in teh process of installation
[09:50] <philipballew> if your trooling its not cool
[09:50] <SaaMmY> to reinstall java plugin in both browsers chromium and ff
[09:50] <jrmy> k, all done
[09:50] <philipballew> why did you uninstall them?
[09:50] <jrmy> philipballew: thanks
[09:51] <philipballew> no problem jrmy ! anything else :)
[09:51] <jrmy> how do I move a file with the console?
[09:51] <SaaMmY> mv
[09:52] <philipballew> to move a file in the cli you'd ude the mv comand
[09:52] <SaaMmY> /home/user/folder/file mv /folder/folder/folder...
[09:52] <philipballew> ex: mv/home/bob/DEsktop/file.text /Media/flashdrive
[09:53] <philipballew> ex: mv /home/bob/DEsktop/file.text /Media/flashdrive
[09:53] <well_laid_lawn> I like mv -v file /path
[09:53] <philipballew>        ^ space
[09:53] <philipballew> theres so many options :)
[09:54] <jrmy> well_laid_lawn: verbose can be a good idea
[09:54] <SaaMmY> I need java plugin in ff5 and chromium
[09:54] <well_laid_lawn> sure can
[09:54] <jrmy> so yeah I'm not a total noob with linux I'm more liek in the novice-intermediate stage
[09:55] <philipballew> i am to for the most part
[09:55] <philipballew> i just spend to much time on irc asking questions so i know a few things
[09:55] <well_laid_lawn> the man pages are an excellent intro to using a terminal
[09:55] <philipballew> that just happens to be one
[09:58] <SaaMmY> :)
[09:59] <jrmy> If there was a website that had a list of commands with the explanation of what they are and you could search for a command by its basic use I'd find that most valuable for learning more on using linux appropriately
[09:59] <jrmy> and, I think I'd learn at a much faster pace
[10:00] <jrmy> as for instance if i searched for move mv would show up
[10:01] <jrmy> I don't want to be limited to ubuntu If another distro better fits my needs for whatever application I'm looking for
[10:01] <philipballew> try debian sometime maybe
[10:01] <philipballew> try arch
[10:01] <jrmy> say if I wanted to engineer a mobile gaming device and wanted a linux OS
[10:01] <philipballew> android
[10:02] <jrmy> android is linux?
[10:02] <philipballew> heck yeah!
[10:03] <philipballew> its all linux
[10:03] <philipballew> well. it runs off the linux kernal
[10:03] <jrmy> I've thought about building a mobile emulator for console games but definitely not knowledgable about that sort of thing yet
[10:03] <jrmy> interesting fact
[10:04] <jrmy> question is can I obtain android to use for said mobile device?
[10:05] <philipballew> you mean install android on your phone?
[10:05] <jrmy> no the mobile console emulator
[10:05] <philipballew> no idea
[10:05] <jrmy> "said" mobile device
[10:07] <jrmy> other question would be if android would even be compatible with the emulators.. which I'd doubt firstly
[10:08] <knome> ermm.. installing android in a phone is kind of offtopic...
[10:09] <jrmy> not a phone.. but still off topic sorry
[10:10] <jrmy> !themes
[10:14] <jrmy> is there a site that lists terminal commands but makes it easier to search for commands that i don't know?
[10:14] <philipballew> i would think
[10:14] <jrmy> as in so I can look up something I want to do
[10:14] <philipballew> theres also clicompanion
[10:15] <jrmy> what's clicompanion?
[10:16] <philipballew> a app that list what the comands your entering do
[10:17] <philipballew> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/clicompanion
[10:17] <jrmy> why not just use man?
[10:18] <jrmy> no I need something that I can learn a specific command but don't know what the command is called
[10:18] <philipballew> youtube tatorials maybe
[10:18] <philipballew> man is good
[10:18]  * jrmy sighs
[10:19] <knome> jrmy, http://fosswire.com/post/2007/08/unixlinux-command-cheat-sheet/
[10:19] <knome> !behelpful | philipballew
[10:19] <philipballew> knome, I learned to use the terminal from youtube
[10:20] <knome> philipballew, yeah, but jrmy specifically wanted a list of different commands.. youtube can definitely do that, but it's quite slow, and you're learning one command at a time
[10:20] <jrmy> knome: I think that'll work
[10:20] <jrmy> thanks
[10:20] <knome> no problem
[10:21] <philipballew> knome, true, didnt think it through. Ive seen pdf's with things like this. ill fond the link for him
[10:22] <philipballew> http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxcommands.html
[10:22] <knome> yeah, there are probably dozens of those
[10:23] <philipballew> https://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9030259/Linux_Command_Line_Cheat_Sheet
[10:23] <philipballew> and its also a great way to learn
[10:24] <knome> or just google "unix cli cheatsheet" and you'll get loads of useful results
[10:24] <knome> some are more basic, some focus on real-life usecases, etc
[10:24] <philipballew> ^ good idea
[10:26] <jrmy> ah ha.. I found where themes are stored
[10:27] <knome> /usr/share/themes
[10:27] <knome> ;)
[10:27] <knome> but ~/.themes works as well
[10:27] <jrmy> what if ~/.themes doesn't exist?
[10:28] <knome> jrmy, you can just create it
[10:28] <jrmy> how will teh computer know to look for themes there?
[10:28] <knome> it just knows
[10:28] <knome> it will look there even if the dir doesn't exist
[10:28] <knome> it's programmed so
[10:28] <jrmy> k, I'll take your word for it
[10:36] <jrmy> knome: idk if that works as you say seeing as I just tried it and couldn't find teh theme but I moved it to the themes folder in usr
[10:37] <knome> does it work from under the /usr dir then?
[10:37] <jrmy> doesn't seem to work either.. unless I have to reboot for it to work for either
[10:37] <knome> nope.
[10:37] <jrmy> though the theme might not work as well
[10:37] <knome> what's the theme then?
[10:38] <jrmy> http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Aerolite?content=54127
[10:39] <knome> jrmy, right, that's an xfwm4 theme. did you look undert settings manager » window manager?
[10:39] <jrmy> it just modifies windows?
[10:40] <knome> yes, just the window borders.
[10:40] <jrmy> that's why....
[10:40] <jrmy> fail
[10:40] <jrmy> so xfwm means xfce window manager
[10:40] <knome> yes
[10:41] <jrmy> lol, well at least i know that now
[10:41] <knome> (how unexpected?(!))
[10:43] <SaaMmY> hey guys Idk why but I have java troubles in browser in ff5 keepvid
[10:43] <SaaMmY> when I start to load tha java app in keepvid ff crashes
[10:49] <jrmy> another question, do I put mouse themes in the same folder?
[10:50] <knome> i don't know, but i'd suppose so
[10:50] <jrmy> well, I'd rather ask just incase I mess something up but then again its a learning prosess
[10:52] <knome> /usr/share/icons
[10:54] <jrmy> lol just figured it out on my own
[10:54] <jrmy> maybe I don't need a support channel
[10:55] <knome> most of the things can be easily found in google
[10:55] <jrmy> agreed
[12:18] <gigenieks> hello guys
[12:18] <gigenieks> Sysi: are you here?
[14:14] <ChristopherNG> Omg! Finally I can get back to working on linux!
[14:18] <gigenieks> ChristopherNG: huh?
[14:18] <ChristopherNG> I was just saying im glad the weekend is over so i can start working on linux again
[14:18] <ChristopherNG> I have alot to do this week, with bash scripts etc
[14:19] <gigenieks> most people are glad when weekend comes not when it is over :D
[14:20] <ChristopherNG> Yeah my life is in reverse at the moment, Im free monday to friday and work part time on weekends
[14:20] <ChristopherNG> Im at university which is out for another 6 weeks
[14:21] <ChristopherNG> Since I passed all my exams and I have no resits i have nothing to do except linux projects
[14:35] <gigenieks> you have finished university?
[15:23] <Guest77900> Have a question about screen resolution in Xubuntu 11.04.
[15:23] <beardygnome> Guest77900: what's your question?
[15:24] <Guest77900> It won't let me set a resolution higher than 1024x768.
[15:24] <Guest77900> I can in Windows XP.
[15:26] <beardygnome> is it that you don't have any options higher than in the Settings menu?
[15:26] <Guest77900> Right. 1024x768 is the only option. Also, it doesn't offer a list of refresh rates. Just 0.0
[15:28] <beardygnome> what monitor are you using?
[15:29] <Guest77900> Dell M781p. Older 17" CRT. Have no problems with it in XP.
[15:33] <beardygnome> i wonder if it's not properly support in the kernel...
[15:33] <beardygnome> this website suggests it might need some drivers: http://www.bioticaindia.com/m781p.html
[15:34] <beardygnome> NOTE: i found that website via a search engine, i'm not commenting on its accuracy
[15:35] <Guest77900> I'll give it a shot. I just figured most, if not all, standard CRT monitors were supported in Linux.
[15:36] <beardygnome> well you do have some support...
[15:36] <TheSheep> it does
[15:36] <TheSheep> it's usually the graphics card
[15:36] <Unit193> I had to get a x.conf
[15:36] <TheSheep> Guest77900: what graphics card do you have?
[15:36] <Guest77900> Integrated Intel. Not very impressive, I know...
[15:37] <TheSheep> Guest77900: that's actually well supported, so it's good
[15:37] <TheSheep> Guest77900: what does the command 'lspci | grep VGA' say in terminal?
[15:37] <Guest77900> One sec.
[15:38] <Guest77900> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
[15:40] <Guest77900> I set up Xubuntu alongside XP a few days ago. I haven't booted into XP since. Loving it.
[15:40] <Guest77900> Would just like to find a tweak to increase the resolution.
[15:41] <TheSheep> ok, os the thing is that the monitor is too old to have your system autodetect the refresh frequenciesfor it
[15:41] <TheSheep> so it uses the minimal safe ones
[15:41] <TheSheep> but you can tell it what frequencies are ok for your monitor in the xorg.conf
[15:42] <TheSheep> there is a howto on that here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973
[15:42] <Guest77900> Very good. Thank you!
[15:43] <TheSheep> you can also try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[15:45] <Guest77900> I'll give it a shot.
[15:45] <Guest77900> Much appreciated.
[15:46] <TheSheep> linux generally doesn't have drivers for monitor screens -- but sometimes you need to give it extra info on your monitor
[15:47] <Guest77900> I can do that. Thanks!
[15:52] <industrial> How do I get rid of the email icon in the indicator applet?
[15:53] <beardygnome> industrial: permenantly, or just for the moment?
[15:55] <beardygnome> to remove it permenantly, uninstall the indicator-messages package
[15:55] <industrial> thanks
[17:18] <kevor> Hello, i'm trying to get my USB sound card to work with Xubuntu
[17:19] <kevor> anyone here can help me out?
[17:26] <orngjce223> USB sound cards? Ask #opensourcemusicians - they know more about such things
[17:32] <Sysi> kevor: install pavucontrol and set it as output device
[19:24] <industrial> sudo apt-get install ruby rubygems;sudo gem install heroku; heroku;
[19:24] <industrial> last one gives me command not found
[19:24] <GridCube> whats gem?
[19:24] <GridCube> !info gem
[19:24] <industrial> ruby package manager
[19:25] <GridCube> that doesnt seem correct industrial
[19:25] <industrial> what ubottu spat out doesnt seem connect
[19:25] <industrial> correct
[19:25] <industrial> actually it might, the package gem
[19:26] <industrial> but the gem you see there is a binary from the package rubygems
[19:26] <GridCube> apt-cache confirms ubottu's info
[19:26] <industrial> the problem is that gem's installed binaries arent in the path
[19:27] <industrial> GridCube: do an apt-get install rubygems;which gem;
[19:28] <TheSheep> industrial: try 'dpkg -L rubygems'
[19:28] <TheSheep> industrial: and see where it put it
[19:28] <industrial> Gem is installed fine
[19:29] <industrial> what gem installes, the binaries, are not in the path
[19:29] <industrial> /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/*
[19:29] <GridCube> wouldnt it be > sudo rubygem install heroku ?
[19:29] <industrial> GridCube: rubygems provides a binary called gem. I'm in no way talking about an apt-get package called gem.
[19:29] <GridCube> oh
[19:29] <GridCube> okay sorry
[19:30] <TheSheep> industrial: are you sure they are not simlinked to /usr/bin?
[19:30] <industrial> yes
[19:30] <TheSheep> symlinked
[19:30] <industrial> thats the problem :D
[19:31] <TheSheep> I mean, maybe under a different name than 'gem'
[19:31] <GridCube> i think that gem is working, the thing not working is the stuff he wants to install whit it
[19:31] <TheSheep> I think that's normal for ruby programs to not work ;)
[19:41] <Amacidia> hey everyone, i have 10.04 running on a everex laptop, it doesn't appear that I can change the resolution in xfce, is this possible?
[19:42] <GridCube> you might need to update the video drivers
[19:42] <GridCube> else write xrandr and see what resolutions are available
[19:43] <Amacidia> hey, lots are available
[19:43] <Amacidia> I'm currently set to 1600x1200, would be nice to switch to 1280x800
[19:44] <GridCube> then write xrandr -s 1280x800
[19:45] <GridCube> you can install grandr  to use a gui front end for xrandr
[19:46] <Amacidia> Thanks!
[19:46] <GridCube> :D
[19:47] <GridCube> but then you might need to add something to the boot to have xrandr change your resolution Amacidia
[19:48] <Amacidia> You know I feel like an idiot, I'm going to let update manager run as there are loads of updates. Perhaps that will fix the issue ?
[19:49] <GridCube> dunno
[19:50] <TheSheep> doesn't xfce come with settings->display anymore?
[19:53] <GridCube> it should
[20:04] <Amacidia> Ah Settings ---> Xfce 4 Settings Manager :)
[20:07] <Amacidia> Well, I changed my resolution to 1024x768 but now when i boot up my screens all wacked out :/
[20:26] <Amacidia> Anyone have an idea how I can get into recovery mode? I'm not even seeing the grub menu on boot
[20:26] <Amacidia> Maybe from the cd ?
[20:26] <knome> Amacidia, pressing right-shift should pop up the grub menu
[20:29] <Amacidia> hey knome, what happens is that I see the grub loading message now, but thats it, it just brings me right to xfce, which is messed
[20:29] <Amacidia> is that pressing right-shift with the install cd in the drive, or without?
[20:30] <Sysi> left shift key works too, hold it during boot
[20:30] <Sysi> or before it
[20:31] <Amacidia> Ah left shift works, thanks
[20:31] <ityler15> does anyone know a permanent fix for b43? every time i boot my laptop i have to open terminal and run the modprobe command
[20:31] <Amacidia> Now how can I get my video work lol ?
[20:32] <Amacidia> Failsafe graphic mode looks good..
[20:33] <Amacidia> Failsafe graphic mode would be good, but it keeps looping the same question "How would you like to reconfig your display ? "
[20:39] <GridCube> ityler15, ask in #bcm-users  you will get better help
[20:40] <GridCube> Amacidia, move the xorg.conf file away and save it just to be safe and reboot
[20:46] <Amacidia> Thanks!
[20:56] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu community meeting in #xubuntu-devel in 64 minutes. Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
[21:04] <ityler15> edbian: IT WORKED!!!!!thank you sooo much man, this is what drove me from ubuntu before but now its fixed!
[21:09] <GridCube> ityler15, i guess that was for other channel
[21:11] <ityler15> gridcube: yeaaahhhhhh i thought we were in this channel
[21:16] <GridCube> ityler15, i would guess it was #bcm-users
[21:24] <art_> test
[21:27] <art_> can anyone tell me how to select files found with a search done by catfish??? I searched my music archive and found 80 tunes that I'd like to move to another folder-but catfish won't let me select more than one tune at a time-how do I select all 80 tunes from the catfish search screen and move them to another folder?
[21:28] <jrmy> ctrl-a didn't work?
[21:29] <art_> I didn't think of that!!! I was expecting to use the mouse to select fikes.....standby, I'll check control a from kb.
[21:29] <Sysi> mv /home/$USER/Musicarchive/*matches* /where/to/move would work too
[21:30] <Sysi> *matches* like *artistname*
[21:31] <Sysi> but filesystem structure needs some getting used to
[21:31] <art_> control A only lets me select one file at a time-and even that file cannot be dragged and dropped.
[21:32] <Sysi> catfish is just search..
[21:32] <charlie-tca> holding control while selecting?
[21:32] <art_> I have my archive in a usb drive, and want to move them into a separate folder on my desktop.
[21:32] <charlie-tca> use thunar
[21:33] <charlie-tca> you can do a "Select by pattern" under edit, just tell it whatever you told catfish
[21:33] <charlie-tca> It will automatically select tham
[21:33] <charlie-tca> s/tham/them
[21:34] <charlie-tca> I use that with stuff like *jpg to select every jpg in a directory
[21:34] <art_> when I hold down the control and the A key, and click on a file to select, nothing happens....
[21:34] <charlie-tca> hold control and click doesn't work either?
[21:35] <Sysi> if ctrl A works, it should select all without any clicking
[21:35] <art_> if I hold down the control key then click on a file, nothing happens, it won't even select the file!
[21:37] <art_> how doesa one activate thunar???
[21:37] <art_> Im new to linux.
[21:37] <art_> control A does nothing.
[21:38] <art_> btw, ty for help charlie.
[21:38] <charlie-tca> It the file manager, just click that right blue folder in the hidden panel at the bottom of the screen
[21:41] <art_> i activated the file manager, but nothing appears other than the screen and a list of the files.
[21:42] <art_> there is no right blue folder on my screen.
[21:44] <art_> this is so frustrating, I can't figure out how to select and move files that have resulted from a search.
[21:46] <art_> If I go to a folder using the file manager, I can select files and move them/copy them......but how do I move/copy files that I found wiuth a search?
[21:47] <art_> I've never used the desktop sharing application before, otherwise I'd show you what happens when I try.
[21:50] <art_> I guess i better give up-im so darned frustrated tho.
[21:52] <ChristopherNG> not sure what the problem is but "giving up" is defeatist talk..
[21:52] <art_> yes, I know.......
[21:52] <art_> sorry.
[21:53] <art_> is it possibly a permissions issue with the folder??? The songs aren't on the hard drive with the os.
[21:53] <charlie-tca> um, why can't you do it in file manager?
[21:54] <ChristopherNG> art_: are you trying to do something to the file but you cant?
[21:54] <charlie-tca> Sometimes, we just have to alternative methods to get the task done
[21:54] <art_> maybe I should make a video with the screen capture software and post it on youtube.
[21:54] <charlie-tca> Yeah, that's an idea. Maybe in a day or two, someone will tell you how to get those files moved then.
[21:55] <ChristopherNG> art_: dont know if you have tried this already but make a copy of the folder to give yourself the full rights to the folder if you have not done so already.
[21:55] <art_> Im trying to copy a list of 80 hits to another folder,   i searched for song titles, found 80 that meet my search criteria, and I want to selct them and move them to another file folder,
[21:56] <ChristopherNG> art_: Make a copy of the folder to get all the rights to it.
[21:56] <ChristopherNG> You are probably unable to edit the contents because you do not have the rights to edit the contents etc.
[21:57] <ChristopherNG> By copying the entire folder you get all rights to everything in that folder and then you can just delete the original.
[21:57] <art_> ok, there are 43 gb of music in the folder, so making a copy of the entire folder will take awhile!!!! But, I'll try it later with a smaller folder.
[21:57] <art_> the folder Im searching was one that I originally copied using drag and drop.
[21:58] <ChristopherNG> art_: 40gb is not much, I have done that for almost a terrabtye lol
[21:58] <GridCube> im getting a 404 on ubuntu/pool/universe
[21:58] <charlie-tca> local mirror?
[21:58] <GridCube> yes
[21:58] <charlie-tca> might be updating, which will give the 404 until it gets done,
[21:58] <charlie-tca> could be an hour or two
[21:59] <GridCube> mmkay
[21:59] <art_> I can copy or move any of the files in the folder already.......but the issue seems to be with moving or copying files that result from a search.
[22:01] <ChristopherNG> art_: where is this folder located, on an external hdd? or a different computer altogether? sorry i just came into the channel
[22:02] <art_> for instance, I can open the folder and select songs to copy or move.....but, when I search for songs that meet my search criteria, I can't move or copy just those songs.
[22:02] <art_> np chris, ty in advance.
[22:02] <ChristopherNG> art_: have you tried to search for them and used a pipe to move them?
[22:02] <art_> the files are on my external drive, a 250 gb usb hard drive.
[22:04] <art_> the problem with a pipe is that I can't select the tunes with the mouse, I'd have to type every single filename.
[22:04] <GridCube> i wanted to try if meta tracker would work, but for some reason i cant install it, you could try tho
[22:05] <ChristopherNG> art_: what search parameters are you using? give the command here.
[22:06] <GridCube> Community meeting is going on NOW on #xubuntu-devel
[22:07] <art_> I am using catfish to search, and searching the whole music archive folder for 'beatles'. I get a list of 80 tunes, but I can't drag and drop them from the catfish screen.
[22:08] <ChristopherNG> art_: trying something like find . / -name "taylorswift*" -print
[22:08] <art_> What I want to do is to copy just the result of the search into another folder so I can transfer them to a usb drive later on.
[22:08] <ChristopherNG> sorry .. "find . -name "taylorswift*" -print"
[22:09] <ChristopherNG> when you are in the correct directory with the music you want to copy.
[22:09] <art_> so u mean from the terminal??
[22:09] <ChristopherNG> yes ofc
[22:09] <ChristopherNG> ls /media
[22:10] <ChristopherNG> cd /media/THEHARDDRIVENAME
[22:10] <art_> ovedrload........
[22:10] <art_> overload.....
[22:10] <ChristopherNG> you went to the correct directory with the music and used that find command ?
[22:11] <art_> i open a terminal window, and type in:
[22:11] <ChristopherNG> find . -name "whateveryouwantforsearching*" -print
[22:11] <art_> find . -name "beatles*" -print
[22:12] <ChristopherNG> and you get?
[22:12] <art_> standby.
[22:13] <spanther> Good evening everyone :)
[22:14] <art_> I think I need to tell it to search on the usb drive-
[22:14] <spanther> I've installed the ATI drivers shipped with the repositories and use Xubuntu. Everything works nearly perfect, it's just a little thing which is not perfect. When I play a video in HD quality (1080p) I have "very little" stuttering
[22:15] <ChristopherNG> art_: like I said you have to move to the correct directory and use that command.
[22:16] <ChristopherNG> the "." means find it here
[22:16] <ChristopherNG> spanther: stuttering is in the sound or the video jumps?
[22:17] <spanther> ChristopherNG, the video has very little breaks, not complete stops, but you see a little stuttering
[22:17] <spanther> it just doesn't look "perfectly fluid" :)
[22:17] <ChristopherNG> spanther: have you tried or had the same problem with other films?
[22:17] <spanther> yep
[22:17] <ChristopherNG> VLC?
[22:18] <spanther> yes ^^
[22:18] <ChristopherNG> I sometimes get that aswell and sometimes it jumps for me, Ive always put it down to the file as opposed to the os.
[22:18] <ChristopherNG> or VLC.
[22:19] <spanther> it looks like the video only has 15fps :)
[22:19] <ChristopherNG> Yeah well that would really explain it.
[22:19] <spanther> it happens with all movies (have over 100)
[22:20] <spanther> but the video itself has much more fps ^^
[22:20] <art_> ok, I copied a folder to my desktop and tried the search from the terminal mode-nothing displayed after a brief flurry of hard drive activity.
[22:21] <ChristopherNG> art_: did you copy a folder to your desktop with beatles stuff in it?
[22:21] <ChristopherNG> Because that command will only look for "beatles"
[22:21] <spanther> ChristopherNG, do you know another player with many codecs instead to try out? :)
[22:22] <ChristopherNG> spanther: VLC is what I use personally, Ive never actually used perole that comes with the OS.
[22:22] <ChristopherNG> Alot of other people also use XMBC for a HTPC, Again ive avoided that.
[22:22] <art_> no, I grabbed a small file with 5 or 10 tunes, and copied them to my desktop. Then I searched for 'tommy', which was in one of the file names in the coipied folder.
[22:23] <art_> I changed the terminal command to search for an appropriate term.
[22:24] <ChristopherNG> art_: and you changed to the correct directory aswell where you started the search? If so i really cant help you beyond that.
[22:24] <ChristopherNG> ie /Desktop/THemusicfolder/
[22:24] <art_> yes, am searching the proper directory.
[22:25] <art_> I didn't put the music folder in the music sub directory......just moved it directly to the desktop.
[22:25] <spanther> ChristopherNG, mmh okay so I have to find another way to go around that :/ thank you for your assistance :)
[22:26] <art_>  /Desktop/
[22:26] <art_> this is so frustrating...........
[22:27] <ChristopherNG> let me try it on my machine
[22:27] <art_> it's such a basic function and I can't figure out how to do it.
[22:28] <ChristopherNG> art_: what is your music folder called?
[22:28] <art_> is the desktop sharing utility difficult to use?
[22:28] <art_> it's called 'test'
[22:29] <ChristopherNG> art_: try this command "find /home/ubuntu/Desktop/test -name tommy -print"
[22:30] <ChristopherNG> tommy was the word you chose to search for, just change it to meet the correct spelling.
[22:30] <art_> ubuntu is so nice!!!! my daughter is going to use it instead of windows-it's fast, it works and she loves it after just a few minutes of using it herself!!
[22:32] <ChristopherNG> art_: with this command that I can given you it tells the computer exactly which directory to go and search.
[22:32] <art_> there are 2 tunes in the folder with 'tommy' in them.......if I change to the desktop folder and search it, the software should automatically search subfoilders also? ?
[22:32] <art_> I will cut and paste it into the terminal window.....
[22:32] <ChristopherNG> art_: the find command uses brute force to locate your files, it checks every file in all your directories.
[22:33] <ChristopherNG> if more than one file in a different direcotry has the same name "tommy" find reports them all.
[22:33] <ChristopherNG> but in this case we have specified exactly which directory to search.
[22:34] <ChristopherNG> just open a terminal and try that command lets not make a simple thing harder than it has to be.
[22:34] <art_> art@ubuntu:~$ find /home/ubuntu/Desktop/test -name tommy -print
[22:34] <art_> find: `/home/ubuntu/Desktop/test': No such file or directory
[22:34] <art_> these are the results
[22:35] <art_> ok, I see the problem...I use xubuntu, not ubuntu.
[22:35] <ChristopherNG> the folder is actually spelt "test" just exactly like that?
[22:35] <spanther> ChristopherNG, after disabling "Vsync" i have "little" cuts in the video in heavily moving scenes but it runs completely smooth now ^^
[22:35] <ChristopherNG> spanther: thats good to know for myself aswell, great!
[22:36] <spanther> :)
[22:36] <ChristopherNG> spanther: by the way are you running 64bit or 32?
[22:36] <spanther> ATI has an option to disable these "cutted windows" if movement comes up, it says it will use extra power to enable this. it seems like it sets the desktop to 60hz/fps and so the movie (24fps) stutters
[22:36] <spanther> i am using Xubuntu 32bit 11.04 :)
[22:37] <spanther> with PAE kernel
[22:37] <ChristopherNG> art_: just check the spelling of "test" because unix is case sensitive.
[22:37] <spanther> well now fast movement makes cuts inside the frame(s) but it runs smooth.
[22:37] <ChristopherNG> spanther: thats cool, I have a 64bit machine but i run the 32 bit iso because its more stable and i find things like flash and vlc less laggy
[22:38] <spanther> i still use vlc now :)
[22:38] <ChristopherNG> art_: you still there?
[22:39] <art_> test is all lower case.
[22:39] <spanther> so that means I can't enable this Vsync option for desktop otherwise it isn't able to play media with lower fps than 60 stutter free because it hasn't enough fps in the media :)
[22:39] <spanther> cause it can't calculate half frames
[22:39] <art_> still here
[22:39] <ChristopherNG> art_: close that terminal and open a new one
[22:39] <ChristopherNG> type "ls" hit enter
[22:40] <art_> Desktop     how to save drivers in xubuntu.abw                Pictures
[22:40] <art_> Documents   linux laptop summary, cost vs processor type.abw  Public
[22:40] <art_> Downloads   linux laptop summary, cost vs processor type.txt  Templates
[22:40] <art_> forum post  Music
[22:40] <ChristopherNG> now type "cd ./Desktop"
[22:40] <ChristopherNG> hit enter
[22:40] <ChristopherNG> now type "ls" hit enter
[22:41] <art_> art@ubuntu:~$ cd ./Desktop
[22:41] <art_> art@ubuntu:~/Desktop$
[22:41] <ChristopherNG> type "ls" what do you get
[22:41] <spanther> glad I could help lol xD
[22:42] <art_> art@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ ls
[22:42] <art_> 69_017 - Tommy Jiames & The Shondells - Crystal Blue Persuasion 192 St.mp3
[22:42] <art_> linux laptop summary, cost vs processor type.txt
[22:42] <art_> test
[22:42] <ChristopherNG> now type "cd ./test"
[22:42] <art_> it actually found another instance of 'tommy' on my desktop.
[22:42] <ChristopherNG> art_: ignore it
[22:42] <ChristopherNG> type "cd ./test"
[22:42] <ChristopherNG> and then type "ls" and tell me what you get
[22:43] <art_> art@ubuntu:~/Desktop/test$
[22:43] <ChristopherNG> yes now type "ls" and do you get anything in that folder?
[22:43] <ChristopherNG> or have you been searching an empty directory? :)
[22:44] <art_> art@ubuntu:~/Desktop/test$ ls
[22:44] <art_> 69_017 - Tommy James & The Shondells - Crystal Blue Persuasion 192 St.mp3
[22:44] <art_> 69_017 - Tommy Jiames & The Shondells - Crystal Blue Persuasion 192 St.mp3
[22:44] <art_> 69_018 - Creedence Clearwater Revival - Proud Mary 192 St.mp3
[22:44] <art_> 69_019 - Spinning Wheel - Blood, Sweat & Tears VBR JS.mp3
[22:44] <art_> 69_020 - Johnny Cash - A Boy Named Sue 192 St.mp3
[22:44] <art_> 69_021 - Blood, Sweat & Tears - You've Made Me So Very Happy 192 St.mp3
[22:44] <art_> 69_022 - Cowsills - Hair 192 JS.mp3
[22:44] <ChristopherNG> great!
[22:44] <art_> 69_023 - Supremes & Temptations - I'm Gonna Make You Love Me 192 ST.mp3
[22:44] <art_> 69_024 - Sly & the Family Stone - Hot Fun In The Summertime 192 St.mp3
[22:44] <art_> yes, that works, tnx.
[22:44] <art_> but the original problem still exists
[22:45] <ChristopherNG> now type this "find . -name "T*" -print"
[22:45] <spanther> ChristopherNG, If you enable Desktop Vsync option to remove cuts, it syncs to 60fps because your screen has 60hz, so it disallows half frames. movies have less frames per second so they stutter because it hasn't enough to show 60 full frames per second :) that was the issue ^^
[22:45] <art_> if I use catfish to search for 'tommy' on myt desktop, it will display 2 files....but how to move those files??
[22:46] <ChristopherNG> art_: ok, where do you want to move those files?
[22:46] <art_> I would be happy enough to copy them anywhere-but nothing works.
[22:46] <ChristopherNG> spanther: Thanks
[22:47] <ChristopherNG> you know how to use the "cp" command?
[22:47] <art_> from tghe catfish screen, the hits from my search cannot be selected, so drag and drop doesn't work.
[22:47] <spanther> ChristopherNG, if you set Vsync on, and then set your screen to 24fps (cinema mode) too just like your screen and your video has 24p, it will run fluid too but that is a big hassle to switch fps everytime :P
[22:47] <art_> no, I don't know 'cp'
[22:47] <ChristopherNG> cp = copy
[22:48] <art_> I assume it's 'copy'??
[22:48] <art_> ok
[22:48] <ChristopherNG> yes
[22:48] <spanther> cp /your/source/file /your/desired/place/   thats how to use x)
[22:48] <ChristopherNG> exactly
[22:49] <ChristopherNG> let me give you an example from my machine
[22:50] <ChristopherNG> cp archies.mp3 ~/Desktop/
[22:51] <ChristopherNG> basically i went to the directory that had "archies"
[22:51] <ChristopherNG> and then copied it to my desktop
[22:52] <art_> ok, b ut will that command search for 'archies', and only copy those files??/?
[22:52] <ChristopherNG> you can make a "pipe" like i was saying before
[22:52] <ChristopherNG> but have you used the command line before?
[22:53] <art_> havent used the command line since the early days of dos.........
[22:53] <art_> circa 1990
[22:53] <ChristopherNG> well if your not strong on the command line last thing you want to be doing is using cp and rm with wildcards and pipes.
[22:53] <art_> I'm rusty at best, but understand the concept.
[22:53] <ChristopherNG> I would go read on the command line a little
[22:54] <art_> ok, I can do it-but sure would rather stil luse something with a qui
[22:54] <art_> tnx so much for your help
[22:54] <spanther> the command line is a very strong tool :)
[22:55] <ChristopherNG> your welcome, and just remember...
[22:55] <art_> I gotta get off the computer so my daughter can continue her linux introduction.
[22:55] <ChristopherNG> if you ever get a file and that you dont have full rights over, you just make a copy to get full rights and delete the original.
[22:55] <art_> understand.
[22:55] <art_> ty
[22:55] <art_> gl to all
[22:59] <ChristopherNG> Ok folks im probably going to get told to take this to offtopic but I did abit of research for famous linux users and apparently Ben Affleck and Jeff Goldblum are avid linux users.
[23:01] <spanther> lol *g*
[23:02] <ChristopherNG> but then again someone on that site also said Paris Hilton made contributions to x0rg
[23:02] <ChristopherNG> obvious troll!
[23:06] <spanther> ChristopherNG, you're using ATI too?
[23:07] <ChristopherNG> Nvidia on this machine, Ati on my other.
[23:07] <spanther> ok :)
[23:08] <spanther> ati here, intel on netbook and nvidia on mothers notebook xD
[23:08] <spanther> all linux now :P
[23:08] <ChristopherNG> great, im going for a cigarette brb
[23:08] <CrazyGir> howdy! I am having a pain trying to get xubuntu to properly restart networking
[23:09] <spanther> why restart? did you disable it before? :)
[23:09] <CrazyGir> when I issue service networking stop && service networking start (there's no restart) I get: networking stop/waiting
[23:10] <CrazyGir> using ifdown/up I was able to get my IP refreshed on my nic, but I'm unable to get resolv.conf cleared and reissued
[23:10] <spanther> wlan or lan? atheros or realtek?
[23:10] <CrazyGir> so DNS is all wonky
[23:10] <spanther> mh :/
[23:10] <CrazyGir> spanther: restart becasuse I'm connected to a new network
[23:11] <CrazyGir> new/different. I go between networks and having no connection a lot (live in the middle of the mountains)
[23:11] <spanther> oh ok
[23:11] <CrazyGir> spanther: it's a lan, connected to modem/router atm
[23:12] <CrazyGir> and restart because dns isn't working and resolv.conf looks like it needs a refresh :)
[23:13] <madnick> CrazyGir: use google dns
[23:13] <madnick> :)
[23:13] <CrazyGir> ><
[23:13] <CrazyGir> that's a windows answer
[23:13] <madnick> My router dies all the time
[23:13] <madnick> well the dns server stops working, so i have to use an alternate dns
[23:13] <CrazyGir> I don't need my router doing DNS
[23:14] <CrazyGir> err..
[23:14] <CrazyGir> I don't have my router doing DNS
[23:14] <madnick> I see
[23:14] <spanther> yeah... router slow down sometimes after some uptime because of their dns server is under heavy load or the hardware isn't fast enough :/
[23:14] <spanther> ok
[23:14] <CrazyGir> I guess insight into why the networking service refuses to start would be heplful?
[23:14] <charlie-tca> but something has to or your websites won't resolve. Using google DNS servers is often faster than using the local ISP DNS servers.
[23:15] <spanther> CrazyGir, if your networking would work, you could use teamviewer and show me the issue :) i then could compare with mine
[23:15] <spanther> but you can't since it's down lol
[23:15] <madnick> your websites won't resolve. Using  google DNS servers is often faster than using the local  ISP DNS servers.
[23:15] <madnick> sorry
[23:15] <madnick> i slipped the mouse
[23:15] <madnick> in irssi
[23:16] <CrazyGir> fiddling with resolv.conf is the hack
[23:16] <CrazyGir> figuring out why xubuntu not working like it is supposed to would be the fix
[23:16] <CrazyGir> no?
[23:16] <spanther> madnick, but google censors and so you never know if you got all true dns info :)
[23:16] <madnick> I did not mean to paste that
[23:16] <madnick> It was not my message :)
[23:17] <madnick> spanther: oh
[23:17] <spanther> oh ok xD
[23:17] <spanther> i prefer openDNS :)
[23:18] <CrazyGir> do either of your systems refuse to start netowkring if you stop/start the service?
[23:18] <CrazyGir> spanther: opendns annoys me with their auto-google-if-you-mistype
[23:18] <spanther> CrazyGir, heh
[23:19] <spanther> but it is not controlled "by" google and that's good x)
[23:19] <spanther> i hate monopolism :P
[23:19] <CrazyGir> you mean you dislike being taken advantage of?
[23:19] <spanther> all out of one hand is dangerous ^^
[23:19] <CrazyGir> welcome to the clue :)
[23:20] <CrazyGir> *club
[23:20] <CrazyGir> not sure how e slipped in there
[23:20] <CrazyGir> well crap, I feel like rebooting is the only way to fix this.
[23:20] <spanther> i prefer more different services so if any goes down there aren't affected all you know? :)
[23:20] <spanther> one big company to trust "with every service" well... i'm paranoid xD
[23:20] <CrazyGir> it's so annoying how linux is slowly becoming more and more like windows
[23:21] <spanther> nah it's far away from being windows :)
[23:21] <CrazyGir> spanther: don't be paranoid, be realistic, someone profiting off your information does not care about you, they only care about continueing to collect your information
[23:21] <spanther> just little bugs ^^
[23:21] <CrazyGir> hah
[23:21] <CrazyGir> you haven't used BSD for long enough then
[23:21] <spanther> most of the time it's a layer 8 issue x)
[23:22] <CrazyGir> hah
[23:22] <spanther> means: the one sitting in front of the machine :P
[23:22] <CrazyGir> that is why I came here
[23:22] <CrazyGir> I know what the layer 8 issue is
[23:22] <CrazyGir> :P
[23:22] <spanther> kk xD
[23:22] <spanther> it's just that i bet there is a command you just don't know! x)
[23:22] <CrazyGir> but yea, I haven't really collected any great insights into why xubuntu refuses to reset it's freeking resolv.conf
[23:22] <madnick> In all fairness, the easy way of doing this
[23:22] <spanther> but this doesn't make linux windows'ish
[23:22] <madnick> Would be to use nm-applet
[23:23] <madnick> and "disable networking" then reenable it
[23:23] <CrazyGir> let me see..
[23:23] <madnick> The nm-applet will generate resolv.conf
[23:23] <CrazyGir> how would you start that applet?
[23:24] <madnick> CrazyGir: its on top right
[23:24] <madnick> if you are running GUI
[23:24] <spanther> CrazyGir, i bet you just install it over synaptic software center and then add it as panel app :)
[23:24] <madnick> the two arrows in 11.04 :)
[23:24] <CrazyGir> hah
[23:24] <spanther> madnick, CrazyGir is using Xubuntu so Xfce :)
[23:24] <spanther> no two arrows there hehe
[23:25] <CrazyGir> HAH, so the applet doesn't even pick up my NIC/eth0
[23:25] <CrazyGir> ><
[23:25] <CrazyGir> FAIL.
[23:25] <spanther> huh? what?
[23:26] <CrazyGir> yea, exactly
[23:26] <spanther> you mean the applet doesn't show eth0?
[23:26] <spanther> i enabled "auto-ethernet" here :)
[23:27] <CrazyGir> nope, I mean if I click the "show me some details" it says, "sorry, no active/valid connection found" and if I click edit connections, I see nothing.. all this despite having eth0 active (with an ip) and correct entries in /etc/network/interfaces
[23:28] <spanther> i only have "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback" inside the "interfaces" file :)
[23:29] <spanther> no eth0 entry O.o
[23:29] <spanther> maybe you try mine? xD
[23:29] <CrazyGir> I miss OpenBSD.
[23:29] <spanther> backup your interfaces and try mine :)
[23:29] <CrazyGir> hah, and there it works..
[23:30] <spanther> what works?
[23:30] <CrazyGir> (no, didn't try yours)
[23:30] <spanther> oh k lol
[23:30] <CrazyGir> yea, linux is getting a lot like windows
[23:31] <spanther> well I just installed Xubuntu 11.04 freshly now today and haven't edited any file so far. this was the only two entries i had in interfaces but it's working just fine
[23:31] <madnick> IIRC Linux is getting less like Windows, Windows even removed POSIX support ;)
[23:31] <CrazyGir> hah
[23:31] <spanther> madnick, i bet ballmer just doesn't want opensource invades windows and so he removes more and more compatibility stuff :P
[23:32] <spanther> joke
[23:32] <CrazyGir> hah
[23:33] <spanther> linux gets more automatism but this doesn't transfer it into windows :)
[23:35] <Josesordo> it isnt windows.. =P
[23:36] <spanther> thanks for saying this x)
[23:45] <spanther> anyone here has knowledge about WebcamStudio ?
[23:46] <spanther> I would like to stream to justin.tv or ustream.tv so i need this :)