| ScottK | debfx: Should be able to in a bit. | 02:40 |
|---|---|---|
| rbelem | ScottK, ping | 03:06 |
| ScottK | rbelem: pong. | 03:06 |
| rbelem | ScottK, i need some help with dh7 :-) | 03:07 |
| ScottK | What's up? | 03:07 |
| rbelem | ScottK, how do i pass parameter to cmake? | 03:07 |
| rbelem | ScottK, i want to pass -DBUILD_HANDSET=TRUE | 03:08 |
| ScottK | Let me find an example. | 03:08 |
| ScottK | rbelem: Look at debian/rules in kdeadmin. | 03:09 |
| rbelem | thx :-) | 03:09 |
| ScottK | Specifically the override_dh_auto_configure: bit. | 03:09 |
| rbelem | ScottK, thank you very much :-D | 03:12 |
| ScottK | rbelem: You're welcome. | 03:12 |
| rbelem | yofel, i just uploaded the plasma-mobile package to revu | 04:02 |
| * rbelem goes to bed | 04:03 | |
| ScottK | debfx: Done. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. | 04:18 |
| ScottK | yofel: What's your plan for kde-workspace? | 04:32 |
| markey | ulmlogger is sleeping here in Mamarok's bed (with her). he's about the only man I'm comfortable with doing that ;) | 05:22 |
| markey | as I snore too much, I got the luxury of using my own bed, without sharing it with ulmlogger | 05:23 |
| markey | and I will bring ulmlogger to lunch into our cafeteria, then he can get to know my manager :) | 05:24 |
| Tm_T | ok | 05:39 |
| ulmlogger | bulldog98: there is a new binary plasma-tablet :P | 08:12 |
| ulmlogger | that one does not crash | 08:12 |
| ulmlogger | curious that plasma-mobile is installed when the handset ui is not built | 08:13 |
| bambee | morning | 08:22 |
| ulmlogger | ScottK, rbelem: the runtime patches to activitymanager are not particularly regression save :S | 08:31 |
| debfx | ScottK: thanks. could you also take care of uploading pykde4 from bzr? | 09:10 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| Quintasan | Good morning | 09:18 |
| * bambee is packing touchegg | 09:19 | |
| * Quintasan is marking kwin-gles as postponed | 09:22 | |
| Quintasan | bambee: Tell me if you want me to review | 09:24 |
| bambee | Quintasan: for touchegg ? ok | 09:24 |
| bambee | sure | 09:24 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Great. Too bad we won't be able to do anything with it until we have upgraded kde-workspace :S | 09:24 |
| bambee | Use of uninitialized value $arch in substitution (s///) at /usr/bin/dpkg-source line 255. | 09:29 |
| bambee | Use of uninitialized value $arch in sprintf at /usr/bin/dpkg-source line 256. | 09:29 |
| bambee | o_O | 09:29 |
| bambee | Quintasan: do I send touchegg on revu? | 09:59 |
| bambee | (it's useful to review something) | 09:59 |
| Quintasan | bambee: If it is a new package then you send it to REVU | 10:00 |
| bambee | Quintasan: ok | 10:00 |
| bambee | Quintasan: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=9206 | 10:05 |
| bambee | oh wait | 10:07 |
| bambee | there is an error into debian/copyright | 10:07 |
| bambee | http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/touchegg | 10:10 |
| Quintasan | bambee: I: touchegg source: binary-control-field-duplicates-source field "section" in package touchegg | 10:25 |
| Quintasan | bambee: The GNU General Public License is mentioned in debian/copyright but there seems to be no copy of it included in the source tarball, which is a requirement for it. | 10:25 |
| bambee | oh damnit | 10:27 |
| Quintasan | Either poke upstream to include it and re-release the tarball or do a repack | 10:27 |
| bambee | I will repack the tarball and poke upstream | 10:29 |
| yofel | ScottK: I was taking a look at how the abi manager works, but for that I need to be able to actually testbuild this, for which we need to fix the archive build failure first | 10:37 |
| yofel | ScottK: if we really can't get this to work, can we dump the abi manager for libkwineffects? I mean, kwin is the only application in the archive that actually uses it currently. | 10:38 |
| debfx | yofel: kde-workspace should build once qtwebkit-source 2.2~2011week27-0ubuntu2 is published | 10:40 |
| yofel | ok, thanks | 10:41 |
| debfx | yofel: is qt4-perl and perlqt the same thing? | 10:48 |
| yofel | debfx: qt4-perl is old and replaced by perlqt | 10:48 |
| debfx | so it's a different upstream? | 10:49 |
| yofel | well, not really, IIRC qt4-perl came from kdebindings too, it's just that it was built seperately | 10:49 |
| debfx | ok, I just want to make sure that we use the same source name as Debian | 10:52 |
| yofel | I did give them the links to our perl packaging a few days ago, not sure if they even started yet | 10:54 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Or *wait* for MoDaX to add multiple CMake targets support :P | 11:10 |
| yofel | he hasn't yet said when he'll do that | 11:11 |
| Quintasan | I don't think he even said he would do it | 11:12 |
| yofel | well, he probably will /eventually/ | 11:16 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: keyboard | 11:26 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: ok thanks | 11:26 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: where is this binary? | 11:35 |
| ulmlogger | built by plasma-mobile | 11:35 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: in the ppa? or do I have to compile it by hand? | 11:55 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, heya | 11:56 |
| rbelem | hey yofel | 11:58 |
| rbelem | :-) | 11:58 |
| rbelem | yofel, what needs to be done in kde-workspace? | 11:59 |
| yofel | GLES | 11:59 |
| rbelem | :-/ | 12:00 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: where do you have the code of your bzr dolphin plugin? | 12:01 |
| ulmlogger | bulldog98: I thought you already have it built ?!?!??! | 12:02 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: what exactly works for you? | 12:03 |
| rbelem | yofel, do you have changes for kdelibs and kde-runtime? ulmlogger asked me to make some changes to them | 12:03 |
| yofel | I'll look at it in a bit, doing something else ATM | 12:03 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, what do you mean with regression save? | 12:04 |
| rbelem | yofel, oki ;-) | 12:04 |
| CIA-52 | [kubuntu-low-fat-settings] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110815120402-8besok801c7wmr7j * (env env/50lowfat debian/kubuntu-low-fat-settings.install) add env setting script | 12:04 |
| ulmlogger | bulldog98: plasma-tablet | 12:08 |
| felimwhiteley | in case it's of interest that Akonadi error killing my machine (ate all 8GB of memory and CPU maxed out) was only solved doing what this guy did http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2011/05/msg00046.html | 12:09 |
| ulmlogger | rbelem: well, there is plenty of changes to kactivitymanager in the runtime patches | 12:09 |
| felimwhiteley | all working again... no idea how/why it was erroring | 12:09 |
| ulmlogger | the manager is also used by plasma-desktop | 12:09 |
| ulmlogger | so since those changes are quite invasive there is no way of telling whether something will break in the desktop | 12:10 |
| ulmlogger | which is a bit scar | 12:10 |
| ulmlogger | y | 12:10 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: k | 12:10 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, revu has the latest plasma-mobile pkg | 12:10 |
| rbelem | wow! google bought motorola mobility :-O | 12:11 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: is it working? | 12:11 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, yup | 12:11 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, and it creates the links | 12:12 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, and build handset | 12:12 |
| * bulldog98 is really enjoying good news :) | 12:13 | |
| rbelem | bulldog98, i upstreamed some ftbfs patches and only one still in the debian/patches dir | 12:13 |
| * bulldog98 hugs rbelem | 12:14 | |
| rbelem | :-D | 12:14 |
| * rbelem hugs back bulldog98 | 12:14 | |
| * bulldog98 hugs ulmlogger, yofel, markey, Mamarok, shadeslayer, debfx, ScottK, Riddell, rbelem and everybody else doing good work | 12:15 | |
| rbelem | :-D | 12:16 |
| * rbelem pokes ulmlogger | 12:17 | |
| ulmlogger | yus? | 12:17 |
| === timblechmann is now known as tim | ||
| rbelem | ulmlogger, what do you mean with regression save? | 12:23 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, and what is ulm? :-D | 12:23 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: where is the PPA it is in. Also it is developed in git | 12:25 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, oh! i did not uploaded to the ppa yet | 12:25 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, i will do it right now | 12:26 |
| bulldog98 | great | 12:26 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, i just uploaded | 12:28 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, new share-like-connect uploaded too | 12:29 |
| rbelem | ScottK, i got "Version older than that in the archive. 0.0~svn20110814-0ubuntu1 <= 0.2~git20110811.084553-0ubuntu0~ppa2 | 12:33 |
| rbelem | is there a way to force? | 12:33 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, ^ | 12:37 |
| debfx | yofel: have you found any other packages that are missing from the packageset? | 12:42 |
| debfx | so far I have http://paste.ubuntu.com/666459/ | 12:42 |
| yofel | debfx: all of the bindings, so I think add perlqt to the list, perlkde is in universe. Other than that, no | 12:45 |
| yofel | rbelem: where are you uploading that to? | 12:46 |
| rbelem | yofel, to ~kubuntu-active | 12:47 |
| rbelem | yofel, i deleted the version that was there | 12:47 |
| yofel | ok, then give it a few minutes, should work then | 12:47 |
| yofel | rbelem: actuall, it got accepted | 12:48 |
| yofel | *actually | 12:48 |
| yofel | rbelem: I'm not sure why you have svn in the version though | 12:48 |
| rbelem | :-) | 12:48 |
| yofel | rbelem: also, you didn't add ~ppa1 to the version | 12:48 |
| rbelem | yofel, we kept svn there just to make version compatible with the previous | 12:49 |
| rbelem | yofel, hum... i will do that next time, sorry :-( | 12:49 |
| bambee | re | 12:50 |
| rbelem | yofel, do you have some free time? :-D | 12:51 |
| yofel | right now, no :/ | 12:51 |
| markey | Harald Sitter is sitting next to me, doing his usual nerd stuff | 12:52 |
| debfx | ok, I've requested a packageset update | 12:52 |
| debfx | yofel: have you tested the new icecc? should we sync it? | 12:52 |
| yofel | debfx: is it up? I didn't check today yet | 12:52 |
| * yofel looks | 12:52 | |
| debfx | in debian, yes | 12:52 |
| yofel | debfx: yes, that one will work, please sync ASAP | 12:53 |
| * rbelem is still dizzy with google buying motorola | 12:53 | |
| yofel | rbelem: your plasma-mobile package failed to build | 12:55 |
| yofel | rbelem: add shared-desktop-ontologies to build-deps | 12:56 |
| ScottK | rbelem: No. | 12:59 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: rename the version to ~git20110814+HASH-0ubuntu0~ppa1 | 13:05 |
| yofel | bulldog98: that won't quite work, although rbelem can use ~svngit... like the network package does | 13:06 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: it will cause 20110814 is greater than 20110811 | 13:06 |
| rbelem | should i change from svn to git? | 13:07 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: yes it would be good if you’d use git, but that will make the version number smaller than the current one | 13:08 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: ideas? | 13:08 |
| CIA-52 | [kubuntu-low-fat-settings] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110815131014-sjxukg2382yvcd67 * (6 files in 5 dirs) move env to etc, somehow env is not particularly well suited for setting env variables .. fun | 13:10 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: you have to copy that env setting into the $HOME/.kde/env folder | 13:11 |
| ulmlogger | no | 13:12 |
| yofel | bulldog98: but 'git' is lower than 'svn' | 13:12 |
| ulmlogger | /usr/env is also searched | 13:12 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: ok | 13:12 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: I suggest naming it 0.0.0~git… | 13:12 |
| yofel | bulldog98: looks odd but would work | 13:14 |
| ulmlogger | ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/826744 | 13:14 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 826744 in Ubuntu "[FFe] kubuntu low fat" [Undecided,New] | 13:14 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: they’ll release soon, so it would change as soon as they release | 13:15 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, isnt it lower than the current one? | 13:15 |
| yofel | bulldog98: but as I said, plasma-widget-networkmanagement uses ~svngit | 13:15 |
| yofel | why not just do the same? | 13:15 |
| yofel | rbelem: er no, 0.0 << 0.0.0 | 13:16 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: no because .something is greater than ~svn | 13:16 |
| ScottK | bulldog98: Dont use git hash as it doesn't always get bigger. | 13:16 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: cause we’ll forget to change that into ~git if a release comes out | 13:16 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: Looking. | 13:16 |
| yofel | ScottK: we use the hash after the date | 13:16 |
| bulldog98 | ScottK: the date in the version is more important the hash is only to indicate the commit | 13:17 |
| yofel | bulldog98: well, true | 13:17 |
| bambee | Quintasan: done , http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/touchegg | 13:17 |
| ScottK | bulldog98 and yofel: Hash should go in changelog, not version string. | 13:18 |
| ulmlogger | bambee: blimey, I actually had packaging lying around for touchegg ^^ | 13:18 |
| rbelem | yofel, i will use the svngit. looks weird but works | 13:18 |
| yofel | ScottK: hm, ok | 13:18 |
| bulldog98 | yofel, ScottK but still I prefer seeing it in the first go | 13:19 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: Will this need a metapackage too? | 13:19 |
| bambee | ulmlogger: really? | 13:19 |
| ulmlogger | ScottK: no | 13:19 |
| ScottK | bulldog98: It's not part of the version. It's really an abuse of the version string to add it there. | 13:19 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: Thanks. | 13:19 |
| bulldog98 | ScottK: maybe we should set up a wiki page explaining how to name git/svn snapshots | 13:19 |
| ulmlogger | ScottK: the idea is that the user can simply install that bugger on whatever meta-system he has and get generally not too useful features turned off without much hassle | 13:19 |
| bulldog98 | ScottK: ok | 13:20 |
| ulmlogger | bambee: yeah | 13:20 |
| * bulldog98 is off for an 1 h or 2 | 13:20 | |
| ulmlogger | bambee: also I talked to jose about missing copying and stuff | 13:20 |
| bambee | nice | 13:20 |
| ulmlogger | also he plans to merge touchegg with some gnome thing or something | 13:20 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: Approved. | 13:20 |
| ulmlogger | thx | 13:20 |
| ulmlogger | bambee: also I'd favor depending on pkg-kde-tools and use the lzma compression from there | 13:21 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: ping me when you've uploaded and I'll New it. | 13:21 |
| CIA-52 | [kubuntu-low-fat-settings] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110815132145-b7z20m7flynidunl * debian/changelog Initial release (LP: #826744) | 13:21 |
| bambee | ulmlogger: actually this package doesn't use pkg-kde-tools | 13:22 |
| ulmlogger | ScottK: should be in new in a couple of minutes | 13:22 |
| ulmlogger | bambee: yes | 13:23 |
| ulmlogger | BUT | 13:23 |
| ScottK | OK. Let's see if I can remember that long. | 13:23 |
| ulmlogger | pkg-kde-tools also contains a non-kde dependent helper for lzma | 13:23 |
| bambee | (I love when you say that, you know :D) | 13:23 |
| ulmlogger | and that is what you should be using | 13:23 |
| bambee | oh | 13:23 |
| bambee | ok | 13:23 |
| ulmlogger | bambee: http://markmail.org/message/o5pzrtmwhp65arpg | 13:24 |
| ulmlogger | rbelem: is share-like-connect in the archive already? | 13:25 |
| bambee | woo! nice | 13:25 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, i dont think so | 13:25 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, it needs that kdelibs | 13:26 |
| ulmlogger | ah, ok | 13:26 |
| CIA-52 | [kdelibs] Philip Muškovac * 373 * debian/patches/ (7 files) fix patch naming | 13:31 |
| CIA-52 | [kdelibs] Philip Muškovac * 374 * debian/changelog fix changelog | 13:35 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: compat 7, build-depends debhelper 8 which is correct? | 13:39 |
| yofel | ulmlogger: https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs-active-4.7/+merge/71555 for the kdelibs stuff | 13:40 |
| CIA-52 | [kdelibs] Philip Muškovac * 375 * debian/control description fix | 13:41 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: It looks like you're replacing some stuff in kubuntu-netbook-default-settings. Is this on purpose/ | 13:45 |
| CIA-52 | [kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 223 * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) * Added plasma-active patches * Added activitymanager files to install files | 13:46 |
| yofel | ulmlogger: and the runtime stuff https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime-active-4.7/+merge/71557 | 13:50 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: Would it make more sense to extend kubuntu_108_plasma_netbook_for_small_screens.diff in kde-workspace rather than have kubuntu-lowfat install stuff in /etc? | 13:51 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: Why no kwin-opengl-es package (re specs)? | 13:53 |
| yofel | ScottK: we won't have on until we either fix or drop the abi manager | 13:53 |
| ScottK | OK. I think it's premature to mark it POSTPONED. | 13:54 |
| yofel | s/on/one | 13:54 |
| ulmlogger | ScottK: could but that would be rubbish IMHO | 13:55 |
| ulmlogger | I am not even so sure why the patch is there | 13:55 |
| ScottK | Part of it is to extend the environment. | 13:56 |
| ScottK | Most of it is for first run with plasma-netbook on netbooks since upstream has still not provided a way to do this. | 13:56 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: I think the stuff you've got in share/apps/plasma/layout-templates/ shouldn't be there. | 13:57 |
| CIA-52 | [kubuntu-low-fat-settings] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110815135908-czlfkrz6y1hokoi0 * share/ (9 files in 8 dirs) ditch plasma stuff | 13:59 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: Can you fix the compat/debhelper requirement difference too? | 14:01 |
| CIA-52 | [kubuntu-low-fat-settings] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110815141027-0pilipq88sdr6mtv * debian/compat align compat with debhelper builddep | 14:10 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: I'll reject the one that's there and you can re-upload ubuntu1. | 14:14 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: Accepted. | 14:26 |
| ulmlogger | ScottK: thx | 14:27 |
| * ulmlogger waves fist about how dist-upgrade broke his plasma-tablet | 14:28 | |
| ulmlogger | ScottK: do we have a mobile kernel yet? | 14:28 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: Ask mpoirier. If you didn't upload anything, I'm pretty sure not. | 14:29 |
| ulmlogger | we are doomed | 14:29 |
| rbelem | :-D | 14:29 |
| cmagina-afk | is this a known issue or is something broken on my oneiric install? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/666548/ | 14:31 |
| === cmagina-afk is now known as cmagina | ||
| ScottK | ulmlogger: lowfat binary accepted too. | 14:34 |
| bambee | is it possible to ask debuild to create a debian.tar.xz instead of debian.tar.gz for packages rules? | 14:35 |
| bambee | (it works perfectly with the orig tarball but not with the debian.tgz tarball o_O) | 14:36 |
| ulmlogger | bambee: yes | 14:36 |
| ulmlogger | you can use -Zxz or -Zlzma | 14:36 |
| ulmlogger | though it makes more sense to ditch an option into debian/source/ | 14:36 |
| ulmlogger | though I can't remember the option | 14:36 |
| ulmlogger | bambee: plus I am not sure launchpad actually accepts those | 14:37 |
| bambee | we could add an override rule into debian/rules... no? | 14:37 |
| ulmlogger | no | 14:38 |
| ulmlogger | debian/source/format is where that goes | 14:38 |
| ulmlogger | dpkg-source gives a bean about debian/rules | 14:39 |
| debfx | ulmlogger, ScottK: could one of you upload pykde4 from bzr? | 14:39 |
| ulmlogger | ah | 14:39 |
| bambee | yeah but you said that lp does not accept it :) | 14:39 |
| ulmlogger | bambee: debian/source/options | 14:39 |
| bambee | oh | 14:40 |
| * bambee checks | 14:40 | |
| ulmlogger | compression = "bzip2" | 14:40 |
| ulmlogger | compression-level = 9 | 14:40 |
| ulmlogger | or lzma or xz | 14:40 |
| bambee | <3 | 14:40 |
| ulmlogger | also | 14:40 |
| ulmlogger | RTFM] | 14:40 |
| ulmlogger | uman:dpkg-source | 14:40 |
| bambee | I did not wait your advice to search on google ^^ | 14:41 |
| ulmlogger | ScottK: debfx: doing tablet work right now and will get groceries with mark in a bit, so I'll not get to it within the next couple of hours | 14:41 |
| bambee | however I did not look at man | 14:41 |
| * bambee blames himself | 14:41 | |
| * ulmlogger blames bulldog98 | 14:52 | |
| ulmlogger | rbelem: ScottK: so, after looking at the runtime patches again I'd land them but then test the activities in plasma-desktop a lot | 14:57 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: OK. How about kdelibs? | 14:57 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, :-D | 14:58 |
| ScottK | Should we make a separate kdelibs-experimental-dev for the experimental headers? | 14:58 |
| rbelem | ScottK, i dont think so | 14:59 |
| ScottK | Do we needs -libs patches? | 14:59 |
| rbelem | ScottK, kdelibs, yup | 15:00 |
| ScottK | Any new headers/.so? | 15:00 |
| rbelem | ScottK, new headers and so | 15:00 |
| ScottK | There's no binary compatibility guarantees for those, so it can't go in the existing packages. | 15:01 |
| ulmlogger | ScottK: kdelibs is fine though I already mailed rbelem some complaints about the non visibility of the experimental status | 15:02 |
| * ulmlogger thought Quintasan and yofel already reviewed the packaging though :P | 15:03 | |
| * ulmlogger waves fist and rebuilds stuff | 15:03 | |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, yofel made some changes and i will make the changes that you asked on top of that | 15:03 |
| Quintasan | ulmlogger: What package are we talking about? | 15:05 |
| Quintasan | <MoDaX> Quintasan: I don't think it is technically possible. SOVERSION property is cmake target specific after all | 15:05 |
| Quintasan | :/ | 15:05 |
| Quintasan | yofel: ^^ | 15:05 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: OK. I'd say let's do an FFe for the libs changes with a debdiff you can ack and then I'll approve. | 15:05 |
| ulmlogger | ScottK: sounds good to me | 15:06 |
| yofel | Quintasan: don't ask me, I can't even look at it without workspace building | 15:07 |
| * ScottK looks at pykde4 | 15:07 | |
| ulmlogger | yofel, Quintasan: simply inhibit the abimanager on second build? | 15:07 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Well, it's MoDaX we are talking about | 15:07 |
| yofel | ulmlogger: how? | 15:07 |
| Quintasan | That's what I was about to ask | 15:07 |
| ulmlogger | well, ask the modax :P | 15:08 |
| Quintasan | <svuorela> just stop shipping the headers. there are so far no 3rd party fx anyways | 15:08 |
| Quintasan | ahahah ohwow.jpg | 15:08 |
| ulmlogger | UPSTREAM ASKED FOR THEM | 15:08 |
| ulmlogger | thy shal obey the mighty word of the upstreams | 15:09 |
| Quintasan | bambee: looking at touchegg | 15:09 |
| bambee | k | 15:10 |
| Quintasan | ulmlogger: What package are we talking about? | 15:10 |
| ulmlogger | kwin | 15:10 |
| Quintasan | OpenGL ES? | 15:10 |
| Quintasan | If GLES == 1 then lolABIManager | 15:11 |
| ScottK | There is a 3rd party effect. | 15:11 |
| yofel | ScottK: and if you missed it, icecc 0.9.7-2 should finally work right | 15:12 |
| ScottK | yofel: Yep. I asked cjwatson to go ahead and get the sync done earlier today. | 15:12 |
| yofel | ah, then thanks :) | 15:12 |
| Quintasan | Did we get new qtmobility? | 15:13 |
| Quintasan | If not then no simon until we get it :S | 15:13 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, need to ask sync from debian, i think | 15:14 |
| rbelem | ScottK, ^ | 15:14 |
| yofel | rbelem: did you check whether we need to sync or merge? | 15:14 |
| rbelem | yofel, yes, just sync | 15:15 |
| yofel | rbelem: ok, file a sync request | 15:15 |
| yofel | (use requestsync) | 15:15 |
| yofel | and explain why the ubuntu diff can be dropped | 15:15 |
| ScottK | It'll need FFe unless it's bugfix only | 15:16 |
| rbelem | yofel, the changes that Riddell made are in debian already | 15:16 |
| ScottK | (I'm sure it's not) | 15:16 |
| yofel | rbelem: not to me, on the bug | 15:16 |
| rbelem | :-D | 15:16 |
| yofel | and right, file an FFe too | 15:16 |
| rbelem | can i file a bug asking for both? | 15:17 |
| Quintasan | bambee: Missing libx11-dev for touchegg | 15:17 |
| bambee | it's not implicit via libqt4-dev ? | 15:17 |
| Quintasan | and libxtst-dev is missing as well | 15:17 |
| Quintasan | Nope, IIRC someone dropped that during merge and I think it was me | 15:18 |
| Quintasan | Add these two and I can ack | 15:18 |
| yofel | rbelem: btw. plasma-mobile in the PPA failed again | 15:19 |
| rbelem | ScottK, can i file a bug asking for both? | 15:21 |
| Quintasan | yofel: When are we getting updated kdelibs so I can go with ffe for s-l-c? | 15:22 |
| rbelem | yofel, i just sent a second upload | 15:22 |
| yofel | Quintasan: once someone reviews my merge and probably marks the libs as from experimental | 15:22 |
| ScottK | rbelem: Please make one bug per package. | 15:22 |
| rbelem | ScottK, but can be one for sync and for ffe? | 15:23 |
| Quintasan | ulmlogger: Can we have you review yofel's merge? | 15:23 |
| ScottK | rbelem: yes. | 15:23 |
| rbelem | nice :-) | 15:23 |
| Quintasan | bambee: When I is getting new touchegg upload? :P | 15:23 |
| bambee | uploaded :p | 15:25 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, some changes are needed to kdelibs | 15:25 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: For what? | 15:25 |
| ScottK | cyphermox: How's ntrack going? | 15:25 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, he already reviewed | 15:25 |
| * ScottK thought you were updating. | 15:25 | |
| * yofel wonders where _groo_ went missing | 15:25 | |
| Quintasan | He is apparently doing Calligra | 15:26 |
| Quintasan | no point imo but whatever | 15:26 |
| cyphermox | ScottK: there's still a merge request up; cjwatson was concerned about the fact that all the files were removed/re-added; probably caused by the fact that I took a snapshot from bzr, instead of an imported tarball like it was... but there is no tarball to import | 15:26 |
| cyphermox | I'll ping him about it again | 15:26 |
| bambee | Quintasan: ^ | 15:27 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: for s-l-c we need updated kdelibs, right? | 15:27 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, yup | 15:27 |
| ScottK | cyphermox: What version are you going for? | 15:27 |
| Quintasan | yofel: https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs-active-4.7/+merge/71555 <-this? | 15:28 |
| cyphermox | ScottK: 014 (latest), + bzr 312, which includes the patch you did for cpu usage (that was 312) | 15:28 |
| ubottu | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=312&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 312 | rwilliam: Minor fix. | 15:28 |
| yofel | Quintasan: he said he had an apparently working digikam package from somewhere, but I can't find that anywhere | 15:28 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, do you want to make the changes that ulmlogger asked for? | 15:28 |
| yofel | so he probably still didn't upload it... | 15:28 |
| yofel | Quintasan: uh yeah, that one | 15:28 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: If they involve doing some coding then I'm the last person you want that from :< | 15:28 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, nope... just some packageing changes | 15:29 |
| yofel | Quintasan: no, I think it was rather marking the stuff from experimental as coming from experimental | 15:29 |
| Quintasan | You are both talking about kdelibs, right? I can do them, what was that ulmlogger wanted? | 15:29 |
| ScottK | cyphermox: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268038 - Not sure what the 015 version being discussed there? | 15:30 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 268038 in KDED Module "kded4 eating 100% cpu - ntrack related" [Normal,Resolved: upstream] | 15:30 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, i just forwarded the email that ulmlogger sent to me | 15:31 |
| Quintasan | Cool. | 15:31 |
| rbelem | thanks Quintasan :-) | 15:32 |
| cyphermox | ScottK: afaik this is what the 3 commits on top of 014 were fixing | 15:34 |
| Quintasan | ulmlogger: Should "This package contains experimental software and should not be used in production environment" be enought for libkactivities? | 15:34 |
| ScottK | OK. | 15:34 |
| Quintasan | bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(lp-67418768:///~yofel/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs-active-4.7/.bzr/branchlock): Transport operation not possible: readonly transport | 15:37 |
| Quintasan | wtf | 15:37 |
| yofel | o.O - use branch | 15:37 |
| yofel | or are you trying to commit? | 15:37 |
| Quintasan | I want to push | 15:37 |
| yofel | err... that branch is owned by me, not possible | 15:37 |
| yofel | you'll have to push to your own | 15:38 |
| Quintasan | yofel: http://paste.kde.org/109741 commit this instead | 15:38 |
| Quintasan | Then I will review and we can upload it | 15:39 |
| Quintasan | runtime is more problematic | 15:39 |
| Quintasan | quoting ulmlogger | 15:39 |
| Quintasan | >patches are not particularly regression save | 15:39 |
| CIA-52 | [lp:~yofel/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs-active-4.7] Philip Muškovac * 376 * debian/control explain that libkactivities and libkdeclarative are experimental | 15:40 |
| ScottK | debfx: Uploaded. | 15:42 |
| ScottK | (pykde4) | 15:42 |
| Quintasan | ofc -j12 won't work.... | 15:42 |
| Quintasan | fu pbuilder | 15:42 |
| yofel | I'm wondering what breaks that actually | 15:42 |
| * Quintasan goes for a nap | 15:43 | |
| Quintasan | make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/buildd/kde4libs-4.7.0' | 15:44 |
| Quintasan | make[2]: warning: jobserver unavailable: using -j1. Add `+' to parent make rule. | 15:44 |
| Quintasan | SUP | 15:44 |
| Quintasan | Oh wait | 15:45 |
| Quintasan | http://i.imgur.com/cbRmv.png | 15:45 |
| Quintasan | lol | 15:45 |
| yofel | I'm not convinced that you have at least 11 cores on your system ^ | 15:46 |
| yofel | ^^ | 15:46 |
| Quintasan | I use -j12 | 15:51 |
| Quintasan | yofel: Builds and installs fine | 15:54 |
| Quintasan | I do bzr push now, right? | 15:55 |
| yofel | well, use bzr merge if you want to auto-close the merge request | 15:56 |
| * bulldog98 blames ulmlogger | 15:59 | |
| Quintasan | yofel: like | 16:01 |
| Quintasan | kbzr branch kde-libs | 16:02 |
| Quintasan | bzr merge lp:~yofel/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs-active-4.7 | 16:02 |
| Quintasan | and what? | 16:02 |
| yofel | commit and push to main branch | 16:03 |
| Quintasan | Push | 16:04 |
| Quintasan | 'd | 16:04 |
| * yofel is off for a while | 16:06 | |
| rbelem | Quintasan, -runtime was already uploadded by ulmlogger | 16:08 |
| ulmlogger | rbelem: uploaded? I did not upload no nothing | 16:49 |
| Quintasan | bambee: touchegg advocated | 16:51 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, ^ :-D | 17:10 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, sorry, i thought you had uploaded | 17:11 |
| * micahg wonders what ulm is | 17:25 | |
| yofel | I town in germany | 17:26 |
| yofel | s/I/A | 17:26 |
| micahg | ah | 17:27 |
| rbelem | ScottK, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtmobility/+bug/826874 | 17:34 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 826874 in qtmobility (Ubuntu) "Sync qtmobility 1.2 from Debian" [Undecided,New] | 17:35 |
| debfx | rbelem: why should we drop the Ubuntu delta? | 17:38 |
| debfx | gah, oneiric upgrade broke my sound :( | 17:39 |
| rbelem | debfx, the changes that Riddell made are already in the package | 17:39 |
| jussi | debfx: my sound is borked for a few days now | 17:39 |
| jussi | :( | 17:39 |
| debfx | rbelem: no, they are not | 17:40 |
| jussi | Mind, my PC doesnt boot normally since the upgrade - I have to g to rescue, select resume, get to promt, login and run startx | 17:40 |
| debfx | lovely :/ | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | \o | 17:40 |
| shadeslayer | rr | 17:41 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: did i mention that i find German food to be bland? :P | 17:41 |
| * rbelem goes to see qtmobility again | 17:41 | |
| yofel | shadeslayer: depends on what you're used to - we certainly don't usually put a dozen different spices into everything so I won't exactly argue against you either | 17:43 |
| shadeslayer | hehehe, true that | 17:43 |
| shadeslayer | i'm used to very spicy food ... | 17:43 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, plasma-mobile is ready | 17:46 |
| jussi | Anyone here going to froscon? | 17:46 |
| * jussi slaps Sput intermittently | 17:47 | |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: thanks for notifying | 17:47 |
| ulmlogger | jussi: so, you know, I am apparently in germany up until thursday or something or nothing, so I actually ponder going to froscon too :P | 17:48 |
| jussi | ulmlogger: I will be at froscon, you should go! | 17:48 |
| ulmlogger | well | 17:48 |
| ulmlogger | at some point I will eventually run out of clean wearables :P | 17:49 |
| jussi | ulmlogger: go to a laundromat? | 17:49 |
| jussi | or buy more :D | 17:49 |
| ulmlogger | plus I should do actually useful things at some point | 17:49 |
| jussi | and froscon isnt useful? | 17:49 |
| nigelb | yeah, desktop summit was so useless | 17:50 |
| * jussi envies those who got to go to DS and get a nice tablet | 17:51 | |
| jussi | brb, new kernel roboot - lets hope it starts... | 17:53 |
| ulmlogger | jussi: not particularly :P | 17:54 |
| ulmlogger | jussi: nice tablet | 17:54 |
| ulmlogger | hahahahah | 17:55 |
| ulmlogger | rofl | 17:55 |
| * ulmlogger dies from laughing | 17:55 | |
| rbelem | debfx, you are right | 17:55 |
| rbelem | debfx, it needs a merge, sorry | 17:55 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, ping | 17:58 |
| ulmlogger | ScottK: any objections to dropping the -default- part for new settings packages? | 17:59 |
| ulmlogger | kubuntu-tablet-settings rather than kubuntu-tablet-default-settings | 17:59 |
| ulmlogger | kubuntu-default-settings makes sense, since they form the base but for the others that is nothing but rubbish | 17:59 |
| ulmlogger | IMHO | 17:59 |
| shadeslayer | jussi: yeah right, i went to DS and yet did not get a Tablet | 18:01 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: you missed the best talk :P ;) | 18:02 |
| ulmlogger | your own fault I might say | 18:02 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: +1 | 18:02 |
| shadeslayer | yeah, well ... | 18:03 |
| shadeslayer | have fun with your 'nice' exopc :P | 18:03 |
| bulldog98 | shadeslayer: much to learn you still have :) | 18:05 |
| jussi | ulmlogger: if you dont want yours, then Im more than happy to take it off your hands... | 18:14 |
| ulmlogger | jussi: sure if you maintain the tablet thing then | 18:17 |
| jussi | bah, you want me to actually do something for it :( :P | 18:17 |
| jussi | Honestly, I dont think Ive got the skills to do that... | 18:18 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: /usr/lib/imports/org/kde/plasma/slccomponents/SlcMenu.qml is in both share-like-connect and the -data package | 18:20 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, i will fix that now | 18:21 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, i think you will have force just this time | 18:24 |
| debfx | jussi: apparently rm -rf ~/.pulse fixes all my sound problems | 18:24 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: what packages have been added, that i need to install for useing plasma-mobile | 18:24 |
| bulldog98 | ? | 18:24 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: I did that | 18:25 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, next time it will be ok | 18:25 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, you will need the default settings | 18:25 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, ulmlogger is working on that | 18:26 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, is the package ready for use? :-) | 18:26 |
| ulmlogger | nope | 18:27 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: so default settings and what to configure, if I already used plasma-desktop | 18:27 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: I’ll help him debugging it :) | 18:27 |
| ulmlogger | I do not actually follow your conversation TBH | 18:27 |
| ulmlogger | default settings for what? | 18:27 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: mobile | 18:27 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, to get plasma-tablet running | 18:27 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: kubuntu-mobile does not depend or recommend kubuntu-mobile-default-settings | 18:28 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, did you get the qtmobility1.2? | 18:28 |
| ulmlogger | bulldog98: because it is neither :P | 18:28 |
| ulmlogger | it is part of the mobile seed | 18:28 |
| ulmlogger | so to say there is no reason you should not use plasma-mobile on a desktop | 18:29 |
| ulmlogger | but on a big screen you do not need the mobile settings most of th etime | 18:29 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: I think I have that | 18:29 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: so what binary is working atm? | 18:32 |
| jussi | debfx: no help here :/ | 18:33 |
| jussi | hrm, anyone tell me how to manually mount my USB HDD? it gives me perm denied from the popup... | 18:34 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, you can call plasma-tablet --nodesktop | 18:35 |
| yofel | sudo mount /dev/... /mnt | 18:35 |
| yofel | don't forget to umount it | 18:35 |
| ulmlogger | dont forget to sync before unmount :P | 18:35 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: where is plasma-tablet in? I haven’t that on my tablet, yet | 18:38 |
| ulmlogger | rbelem: did you also package plasma-tablet? | 18:42 |
| debfx | JontheEchidna: since upgrading to oneiric I get 50-60 fps in minecraft :D | 18:49 |
| sheytan | Quintasan ping | 19:06 |
| ScottK | ulmlogger: These are, however, the defaults for tablets. | 19:22 |
| ScottK | Just as we already have defaults for netbooks. | 19:23 |
| ScottK | I think it makes sense. | 19:23 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, bulldog98, they are in the same source | 19:32 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: I don’t have a plasma-tablet binary on my system with newest plasma-mobile | 19:32 |
| rbelem | ulmlogger, bulldog98, the latest package in https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/+archive/ppa/+packages installit | 19:32 |
| rbelem | *installs it | 19:33 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, it is symlink | 19:33 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: to what? | 19:34 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, to plasma-mobile | 19:35 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: ok, but that hasn’t worked for me with the last version | 19:35 |
| rbelem | did you try plasma-tablet --nodesktop? | 19:36 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, it is ok for me with latest version | 19:39 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, ./usr/bin/plasma-tablet -> plasma-mobile | 19:39 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: wait a sec so I can check that | 19:40 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: your version is lower, that one of the previous ones | 19:41 |
| bulldog98 | I have 0.2~git20110811.084553-1 on my system | 19:42 |
| rbelem | :-/ | 19:43 |
| yofel | just force downgrade it, I would stick to rbelem's versioning | 19:44 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: did the same | 19:45 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: problem solved (shouldn’t happen to anybody else) | 19:45 |
| bulldog98 | yofel: you could have pointed me onto that | 19:46 |
| rbelem | :-) | 19:46 |
| bulldog98 | :P | 19:46 |
| yofel | sry, I forgot ^^ | 19:46 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: hi | 19:46 |
| bulldog98 | Riddell: where is the code of the bzr plugin for dolphin? | 19:46 |
| Riddell | hi bulldog98 | 19:47 |
| Riddell | bulldog98: not published yet, it's incomplete and not very functional, I was hoping to get it more finished today but then I was ill | 19:47 |
| Riddell | hopefully tomorrow, I hope to put it into kdesdk along with the others | 19:47 |
| * bulldog98 hugs Riddell so he gets better | 19:49 | |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: ok got it running | 19:50 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: I want to run it on the tablet so the -nodesktop is a stupid option | 19:51 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, nice :-D | 19:53 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, modify the plasma-mobile desktop file from kubuntu-mobile-default-settings | 19:54 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: maybe we should provide some mouse gestures activated by default | 19:54 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, and the startkde | 19:54 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: do I have to delete the .kde folder? before I do stuff like that | 19:55 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, nope | 19:57 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: even better would be editing the kubuntu-mobile-default-settings | 19:57 |
| bulldog98 | rbelem: so the ones in /usr/share/kubuntu-mobile-default-settings ? | 20:00 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, yup | 20:00 |
| rbelem | bulldog98, and startkde-mobile | 20:00 |
| jussi | bollocks, can even create a usb stick to be able to reinstall... | 20:01 |
| jussi | Traceback (most recent call last): | 20:01 |
| jussi | File "/usr/bin/usb-creator-kde", line 24, in <module> | 20:01 |
| jussi | from PyKDE4.kdecore import KCmdLineArgs, KCmdLineOptions, i18n, ki18n | 20:01 |
| jussi | RuntimeError: the PyQt4.QtCore module is version 1 but the PyKDE4.kdecore module requires version -1 | 20:01 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: you have to change the default wallpaper in the default settings | 20:03 |
| jussi | meh, usb-creator-gtk to the rescue | 20:03 |
| yofel | jussi: fixed | 20:04 |
| jussi | yofel: fixed? | 20:04 |
| yofel | jussi: that pykde issue was fixed a few hours ago | 20:04 |
| jussi | ahh | 20:04 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: for the fixme in startkde: add everything into the mobile settings as well | 20:13 |
| ulmlogger | do not compute | 20:17 |
| ulmlogger | bulldog98: I have to change the default wallpaper in upstream | 20:17 |
| ulmlogger | that green stuff is totally messing with upstream vs. downstream branding | 20:17 |
| ulmlogger | gotta complain to nuno about it | 20:18 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: nice idea | 20:18 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: also plasma-tablet isn’t getting started (everything else but that is) | 20:18 |
| bulldog98 | oxygen branding missing too | 20:19 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: and kded takes 100% CPU | 20:26 |
| ulmlogger | bulldog98: you need to create an autostart file | 20:29 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: where? | 20:29 |
| ulmlogger | also you need to add a sleep to that file, for me a direct start did not do the trick | 20:29 |
| ulmlogger | bulldog98: .kde/share/autostart | 20:30 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: something like plasma-tablet /n sleep 10 | 20:31 |
| ulmlogger | sleep2; plasma-tablet | 20:34 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: I also think we should’n use the plasmarc of the kubuntu-default-settings | 20:36 |
| ulmlogger | why nut? | 20:36 |
| ulmlogger | there is no nothing in the plasmarc | 20:36 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: just noticed that too | 20:38 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: is there something else I have to do? Cause I can’t get kded4 to behave in a proper way | 20:39 |
| ulmlogger | you are doing it wrong(tm) | 20:42 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: really I wouldn’t haved guessed that | 20:45 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: it’s hung up in the kubuntu-default-settings | 20:47 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: no it got further | 20:48 |
| ulmlogger | you my dear friend are clueless :P | 20:48 |
| ulmlogger | bulldog98: are you on natteeeee or oneeyrick? | 20:48 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: oneiric | 20:50 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: it hungs before the tmp /cache link creation | 20:51 |
| ulmlogger | the kded? | 20:51 |
| ulmlogger | bulldog98: mind that the sleepy will hangy | 20:51 |
| bulldog98 | ulmlogger: the startup | 20:51 |
| bulldog98 | also it doesn’t start plasma-tablet | 20:52 |
| bulldog98 | and I have that autostart script | 20:53 |
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| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| Quintasan | rbelem: pong | 22:11 |
| * Quintasan goes to bed | 22:21 | |
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