[02:40] debfx: Should be able to in a bit. [03:06] ScottK, ping [03:06] rbelem: pong. [03:07] ScottK, i need some help with dh7 :-) [03:07] What's up? [03:07] ScottK, how do i pass parameter to cmake? [03:08] ScottK, i want to pass -DBUILD_HANDSET=TRUE [03:08] Let me find an example. [03:09] rbelem: Look at debian/rules in kdeadmin. [03:09] thx :-) [03:09] Specifically the override_dh_auto_configure: bit. [03:12] ScottK, thank you very much :-D [03:12] rbelem: You're welcome. [04:02] yofel, i just uploaded the plasma-mobile package to revu [04:03] * rbelem goes to bed [04:18] debfx: Done. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. [04:32] yofel: What's your plan for kde-workspace? [05:22] ulmlogger is sleeping here in Mamarok's bed (with her). he's about the only man I'm comfortable with doing that ;) [05:23] as I snore too much, I got the luxury of using my own bed, without sharing it with ulmlogger [05:24] and I will bring ulmlogger to lunch into our cafeteria, then he can get to know my manager :) [05:39] ok [08:12] bulldog98: there is a new binary plasma-tablet :P [08:12] that one does not crash [08:13] curious that plasma-mobile is installed when the handset ui is not built [08:22] morning [08:31] ScottK, rbelem: the runtime patches to activitymanager are not particularly regression save :S [09:10] ScottK: thanks. could you also take care of uploading pykde4 from bzr? === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [09:18] Good morning [09:19] * bambee is packing touchegg [09:22] * Quintasan is marking kwin-gles as postponed [09:24] bambee: Tell me if you want me to review [09:24] Quintasan: for touchegg ? ok [09:24] sure [09:24] rbelem: Great. Too bad we won't be able to do anything with it until we have upgraded kde-workspace :S [09:29] Use of uninitialized value $arch in substitution (s///) at /usr/bin/dpkg-source line 255. [09:29] Use of uninitialized value $arch in sprintf at /usr/bin/dpkg-source line 256. [09:29] o_O [09:59] Quintasan: do I send touchegg on revu? [09:59] (it's useful to review something) [10:00] bambee: If it is a new package then you send it to REVU [10:00] Quintasan: ok [10:05] Quintasan: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=9206 [10:07] oh wait [10:07] there is an error into debian/copyright [10:10] http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/touchegg [10:25] bambee: I: touchegg source: binary-control-field-duplicates-source field "section" in package touchegg [10:25] bambee: The GNU General Public License is mentioned in debian/copyright but there seems to be no copy of it included in the source tarball, which is a requirement for it. [10:27] oh damnit [10:27] Either poke upstream to include it and re-release the tarball or do a repack [10:29] I will repack the tarball and poke upstream [10:37] ScottK: I was taking a look at how the abi manager works, but for that I need to be able to actually testbuild this, for which we need to fix the archive build failure first [10:38] ScottK: if we really can't get this to work, can we dump the abi manager for libkwineffects? I mean, kwin is the only application in the archive that actually uses it currently. [10:40] yofel: kde-workspace should build once qtwebkit-source 2.2~2011week27-0ubuntu2 is published [10:41] ok, thanks [10:48] yofel: is qt4-perl and perlqt the same thing? [10:48] debfx: qt4-perl is old and replaced by perlqt [10:49] so it's a different upstream? [10:49] well, not really, IIRC qt4-perl came from kdebindings too, it's just that it was built seperately [10:52] ok, I just want to make sure that we use the same source name as Debian [10:54] I did give them the links to our perl packaging a few days ago, not sure if they even started yet [11:10] yofel: Or *wait* for MoDaX to add multiple CMake targets support :P [11:11] he hasn't yet said when he'll do that [11:12] I don't think he even said he would do it [11:16] well, he probably will /eventually/ [11:26] yofel: keyboard [11:26] ulmlogger: ok thanks [11:35] ulmlogger: where is this binary? [11:35] built by plasma-mobile [11:55] ulmlogger: in the ppa? or do I have to compile it by hand? [11:56] ulmlogger, heya [11:58] hey yofel [11:58] :-) [11:59] yofel, what needs to be done in kde-workspace? [11:59] GLES [12:00] :-/ [12:01] Riddell: where do you have the code of your bzr dolphin plugin? [12:02] bulldog98: I thought you already have it built ?!?!??! [12:03] ulmlogger: what exactly works for you? [12:03] yofel, do you have changes for kdelibs and kde-runtime? ulmlogger asked me to make some changes to them [12:03] I'll look at it in a bit, doing something else ATM [12:04] ulmlogger, what do you mean with regression save? [12:04] yofel, oki ;-) [12:04] [kubuntu-low-fat-settings] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110815120402-8besok801c7wmr7j * (env env/50lowfat debian/kubuntu-low-fat-settings.install) add env setting script [12:08] bulldog98: plasma-tablet [12:09] in case it's of interest that Akonadi error killing my machine (ate all 8GB of memory and CPU maxed out) was only solved doing what this guy did http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2011/05/msg00046.html [12:09] rbelem: well, there is plenty of changes to kactivitymanager in the runtime patches [12:09] all working again... no idea how/why it was erroring [12:09] the manager is also used by plasma-desktop [12:10] so since those changes are quite invasive there is no way of telling whether something will break in the desktop [12:10] which is a bit scar [12:10] y [12:10] ulmlogger: k [12:10] bulldog98, revu has the latest plasma-mobile pkg [12:11] wow! google bought motorola mobility :-O [12:11] rbelem: is it working? [12:11] bulldog98, yup [12:12] bulldog98, and it creates the links [12:12] bulldog98, and build handset [12:13] * bulldog98 is really enjoying good news :) [12:13] bulldog98, i upstreamed some ftbfs patches and only one still in the debian/patches dir [12:14] * bulldog98 hugs rbelem [12:14] :-D [12:14] * rbelem hugs back bulldog98 [12:15] * bulldog98 hugs ulmlogger, yofel, markey, Mamarok, shadeslayer, debfx, ScottK, Riddell, rbelem and everybody else doing good work [12:16] :-D [12:17] * rbelem pokes ulmlogger [12:17] yus? === timblechmann is now known as tim [12:23] ulmlogger, what do you mean with regression save? [12:23] ulmlogger, and what is ulm? :-D [12:25] rbelem: where is the PPA it is in. Also it is developed in git [12:25] bulldog98, oh! i did not uploaded to the ppa yet [12:26] bulldog98, i will do it right now [12:26] great [12:28] bulldog98, i just uploaded [12:29] bulldog98, new share-like-connect uploaded too [12:33] ScottK, i got "Version older than that in the archive. 0.0~svn20110814-0ubuntu1 <= 0.2~git20110811.084553-0ubuntu0~ppa2 [12:33] is there a way to force? [12:37] Quintasan, ^ [12:42] yofel: have you found any other packages that are missing from the packageset? [12:42] so far I have http://paste.ubuntu.com/666459/ [12:45] debfx: all of the bindings, so I think add perlqt to the list, perlkde is in universe. Other than that, no [12:46] rbelem: where are you uploading that to? [12:47] yofel, to ~kubuntu-active [12:47] yofel, i deleted the version that was there [12:47] ok, then give it a few minutes, should work then [12:48] rbelem: actuall, it got accepted [12:48] *actually [12:48] rbelem: I'm not sure why you have svn in the version though [12:48] :-) [12:48] rbelem: also, you didn't add ~ppa1 to the version [12:49] yofel, we kept svn there just to make version compatible with the previous [12:49] yofel, hum... i will do that next time, sorry :-( [12:50] re [12:51] yofel, do you have some free time? :-D [12:51] right now, no :/ [12:52] Harald Sitter is sitting next to me, doing his usual nerd stuff [12:52] ok, I've requested a packageset update [12:52] yofel: have you tested the new icecc? should we sync it? [12:52] debfx: is it up? I didn't check today yet [12:52] * yofel looks [12:52] in debian, yes [12:53] debfx: yes, that one will work, please sync ASAP [12:53] * rbelem is still dizzy with google buying motorola [12:55] rbelem: your plasma-mobile package failed to build [12:56] rbelem: add shared-desktop-ontologies to build-deps [12:59] rbelem: No. [13:05] rbelem: rename the version to ~git20110814+HASH-0ubuntu0~ppa1 [13:06] bulldog98: that won't quite work, although rbelem can use ~svngit... like the network package does [13:06] yofel: it will cause 20110814 is greater than 20110811 [13:07] should i change from svn to git? [13:08] rbelem: yes it would be good if you’d use git, but that will make the version number smaller than the current one [13:08] yofel: ideas? [13:10] [kubuntu-low-fat-settings] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110815131014-sjxukg2382yvcd67 * (6 files in 5 dirs) move env to etc, somehow env is not particularly well suited for setting env variables .. fun [13:11] ulmlogger: you have to copy that env setting into the $HOME/.kde/env folder [13:12] no [13:12] bulldog98: but 'git' is lower than 'svn' [13:12] /usr/env is also searched [13:12] ulmlogger: ok [13:12] yofel: I suggest naming it 0.0.0~git… [13:14] bulldog98: looks odd but would work [13:14] ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/826744 [13:14] Ubuntu bug 826744 in Ubuntu "[FFe] kubuntu low fat" [Undecided,New] [13:15] yofel: they’ll release soon, so it would change as soon as they release [13:15] bulldog98, isnt it lower than the current one? [13:15] bulldog98: but as I said, plasma-widget-networkmanagement uses ~svngit [13:15] why not just do the same? [13:16] rbelem: er no, 0.0 << 0.0.0 [13:16] rbelem: no because .something is greater than ~svn [13:16] bulldog98: Dont use git hash as it doesn't always get bigger. [13:16] yofel: cause we’ll forget to change that into ~git if a release comes out [13:16] ulmlogger: Looking. [13:16] ScottK: we use the hash after the date [13:17] ScottK: the date in the version is more important the hash is only to indicate the commit [13:17] bulldog98: well, true [13:17] Quintasan: done , http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/touchegg [13:18] bulldog98 and yofel: Hash should go in changelog, not version string. [13:18] bambee: blimey, I actually had packaging lying around for touchegg ^^ [13:18] yofel, i will use the svngit. looks weird but works [13:18] ScottK: hm, ok [13:19] yofel, ScottK but still I prefer seeing it in the first go [13:19] ulmlogger: Will this need a metapackage too? [13:19] ulmlogger: really? [13:19] ScottK: no [13:19] bulldog98: It's not part of the version. It's really an abuse of the version string to add it there. [13:19] ulmlogger: Thanks. [13:19] ScottK: maybe we should set up a wiki page explaining how to name git/svn snapshots [13:19] ScottK: the idea is that the user can simply install that bugger on whatever meta-system he has and get generally not too useful features turned off without much hassle [13:20] ScottK: ok [13:20] bambee: yeah [13:20] * bulldog98 is off for an 1 h or 2 [13:20] bambee: also I talked to jose about missing copying and stuff [13:20] nice [13:20] also he plans to merge touchegg with some gnome thing or something [13:20] ulmlogger: Approved. [13:20] thx [13:21] bambee: also I'd favor depending on pkg-kde-tools and use the lzma compression from there [13:21] ulmlogger: ping me when you've uploaded and I'll New it. [13:21] [kubuntu-low-fat-settings] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110815132145-b7z20m7flynidunl * debian/changelog Initial release (LP: #826744) [13:22] ulmlogger: actually this package doesn't use pkg-kde-tools [13:22] ScottK: should be in new in a couple of minutes [13:23] bambee: yes [13:23] BUT [13:23] OK. Let's see if I can remember that long. [13:23] pkg-kde-tools also contains a non-kde dependent helper for lzma [13:23] (I love when you say that, you know :D) [13:23] and that is what you should be using [13:23] oh [13:23] ok [13:24] bambee: http://markmail.org/message/o5pzrtmwhp65arpg [13:25] rbelem: is share-like-connect in the archive already? [13:25] woo! nice [13:25] ulmlogger, i dont think so [13:26] ulmlogger, it needs that kdelibs [13:26] ah, ok [13:31] [kdelibs] Philip Muškovac * 373 * debian/patches/ (7 files) fix patch naming [13:35] [kdelibs] Philip Muškovac * 374 * debian/changelog fix changelog [13:39] ulmlogger: compat 7, build-depends debhelper 8 which is correct? [13:40] ulmlogger: https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs-active-4.7/+merge/71555 for the kdelibs stuff [13:41] [kdelibs] Philip Muškovac * 375 * debian/control description fix [13:45] ulmlogger: It looks like you're replacing some stuff in kubuntu-netbook-default-settings. Is this on purpose/ [13:46] [kde-runtime] Philip Muškovac * 223 * debian/ (4 files in 2 dirs) * Added plasma-active patches * Added activitymanager files to install files [13:50] ulmlogger: and the runtime stuff https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/kubuntu-packaging/kde-runtime-active-4.7/+merge/71557 [13:51] ulmlogger: Would it make more sense to extend kubuntu_108_plasma_netbook_for_small_screens.diff in kde-workspace rather than have kubuntu-lowfat install stuff in /etc? [13:53] Quintasan: Why no kwin-opengl-es package (re specs)? [13:53] ScottK: we won't have on until we either fix or drop the abi manager [13:54] OK. I think it's premature to mark it POSTPONED. [13:54] s/on/one [13:55] ScottK: could but that would be rubbish IMHO [13:55] I am not even so sure why the patch is there [13:56] Part of it is to extend the environment. [13:56] Most of it is for first run with plasma-netbook on netbooks since upstream has still not provided a way to do this. [13:57] ulmlogger: I think the stuff you've got in share/apps/plasma/layout-templates/ shouldn't be there. [13:59] [kubuntu-low-fat-settings] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110815135908-czlfkrz6y1hokoi0 * share/ (9 files in 8 dirs) ditch plasma stuff [14:01] ulmlogger: Can you fix the compat/debhelper requirement difference too? [14:10] [kubuntu-low-fat-settings] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110815141027-0pilipq88sdr6mtv * debian/compat align compat with debhelper builddep [14:14] ulmlogger: I'll reject the one that's there and you can re-upload ubuntu1. [14:26] ulmlogger: Accepted. [14:27] ScottK: thx [14:28] * ulmlogger waves fist about how dist-upgrade broke his plasma-tablet [14:28] ScottK: do we have a mobile kernel yet? [14:29] ulmlogger: Ask mpoirier. If you didn't upload anything, I'm pretty sure not. [14:29] we are doomed [14:29] :-D [14:31] is this a known issue or is something broken on my oneiric install? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/666548/ === cmagina-afk is now known as cmagina [14:34] ulmlogger: lowfat binary accepted too. [14:35] is it possible to ask debuild to create a debian.tar.xz instead of debian.tar.gz for packages rules? [14:36] (it works perfectly with the orig tarball but not with the debian.tgz tarball o_O) [14:36] bambee: yes [14:36] you can use -Zxz or -Zlzma [14:36] though it makes more sense to ditch an option into debian/source/ [14:36] though I can't remember the option [14:37] bambee: plus I am not sure launchpad actually accepts those [14:37] we could add an override rule into debian/rules... no? [14:38] no [14:38] debian/source/format is where that goes [14:39] dpkg-source gives a bean about debian/rules [14:39] ulmlogger, ScottK: could one of you upload pykde4 from bzr? [14:39] ah [14:39] yeah but you said that lp does not accept it :) [14:39] bambee: debian/source/options [14:40] oh [14:40] * bambee checks [14:40] compression = "bzip2" [14:40] compression-level = 9 [14:40] or lzma or xz [14:40] <3 [14:40] also [14:40] RTFM] [14:40] uman:dpkg-source [14:41] I did not wait your advice to search on google ^^ [14:41] ScottK: debfx: doing tablet work right now and will get groceries with mark in a bit, so I'll not get to it within the next couple of hours [14:41] however I did not look at man [14:41] * bambee blames himself [14:52] * ulmlogger blames bulldog98 [14:57] rbelem: ScottK: so, after looking at the runtime patches again I'd land them but then test the activities in plasma-desktop a lot [14:57] ulmlogger: OK. How about kdelibs? [14:58] ulmlogger, :-D [14:58] Should we make a separate kdelibs-experimental-dev for the experimental headers? [14:59] ScottK, i dont think so [14:59] Do we needs -libs patches? [15:00] ScottK, kdelibs, yup [15:00] Any new headers/.so? [15:00] ScottK, new headers and so [15:01] There's no binary compatibility guarantees for those, so it can't go in the existing packages. [15:02] ScottK: kdelibs is fine though I already mailed rbelem some complaints about the non visibility of the experimental status [15:03] * ulmlogger thought Quintasan and yofel already reviewed the packaging though :P [15:03] * ulmlogger waves fist and rebuilds stuff [15:03] ulmlogger, yofel made some changes and i will make the changes that you asked on top of that [15:05] ulmlogger: What package are we talking about? [15:05] Quintasan: I don't think it is technically possible. SOVERSION property is cmake target specific after all [15:05] :/ [15:05] yofel: ^^ [15:05] ulmlogger: OK. I'd say let's do an FFe for the libs changes with a debdiff you can ack and then I'll approve. [15:06] ScottK: sounds good to me [15:07] Quintasan: don't ask me, I can't even look at it without workspace building [15:07] * ScottK looks at pykde4 [15:07] yofel, Quintasan: simply inhibit the abimanager on second build? [15:07] yofel: Well, it's MoDaX we are talking about [15:07] ulmlogger: how? [15:07] That's what I was about to ask [15:08] well, ask the modax :P [15:08] just stop shipping the headers. there are so far no 3rd party fx anyways [15:08] ahahah ohwow.jpg [15:08] UPSTREAM ASKED FOR THEM [15:09] thy shal obey the mighty word of the upstreams [15:09] bambee: looking at touchegg [15:10] k [15:10] ulmlogger: What package are we talking about? [15:10] kwin [15:10] OpenGL ES? [15:11] If GLES == 1 then lolABIManager [15:11] There is a 3rd party effect. [15:12] ScottK: and if you missed it, icecc 0.9.7-2 should finally work right [15:12] yofel: Yep. I asked cjwatson to go ahead and get the sync done earlier today. [15:12] ah, then thanks :) [15:13] Did we get new qtmobility? [15:13] If not then no simon until we get it :S [15:14] Quintasan, need to ask sync from debian, i think [15:14] ScottK, ^ [15:14] rbelem: did you check whether we need to sync or merge? [15:15] yofel, yes, just sync [15:15] rbelem: ok, file a sync request [15:15] (use requestsync) [15:15] and explain why the ubuntu diff can be dropped [15:16] It'll need FFe unless it's bugfix only [15:16] yofel, the changes that Riddell made are in debian already [15:16] (I'm sure it's not) [15:16] rbelem: not to me, on the bug [15:16] :-D [15:16] and right, file an FFe too [15:17] can i file a bug asking for both? [15:17] bambee: Missing libx11-dev for touchegg [15:17] it's not implicit via libqt4-dev ? [15:17] and libxtst-dev is missing as well [15:18] Nope, IIRC someone dropped that during merge and I think it was me [15:18] Add these two and I can ack [15:19] rbelem: btw. plasma-mobile in the PPA failed again [15:21] ScottK, can i file a bug asking for both? [15:22] yofel: When are we getting updated kdelibs so I can go with ffe for s-l-c? [15:22] yofel, i just sent a second upload [15:22] Quintasan: once someone reviews my merge and probably marks the libs as from experimental [15:22] rbelem: Please make one bug per package. [15:23] ScottK, but can be one for sync and for ffe? [15:23] ulmlogger: Can we have you review yofel's merge? [15:23] rbelem: yes. [15:23] nice :-) [15:23] bambee: When I is getting new touchegg upload? :P [15:25] uploaded :p [15:25] Quintasan, some changes are needed to kdelibs [15:25] rbelem: For what? [15:25] cyphermox: How's ntrack going? [15:25] Quintasan, he already reviewed [15:25] * ScottK thought you were updating. [15:25] * yofel wonders where _groo_ went missing [15:26] He is apparently doing Calligra [15:26] no point imo but whatever [15:26] ScottK: there's still a merge request up; cjwatson was concerned about the fact that all the files were removed/re-added; probably caused by the fact that I took a snapshot from bzr, instead of an imported tarball like it was... but there is no tarball to import [15:26] I'll ping him about it again [15:27] Quintasan: ^ [15:27] rbelem: for s-l-c we need updated kdelibs, right? [15:27] Quintasan, yup [15:27] cyphermox: What version are you going for? [15:28] yofel: https://code.launchpad.net/~yofel/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs-active-4.7/+merge/71555 <-this? [15:28] ScottK: 014 (latest), + bzr 312, which includes the patch you did for cpu usage (that was 312) [15:28] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=312&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 312 | rwilliam: Minor fix. [15:28] Quintasan: he said he had an apparently working digikam package from somewhere, but I can't find that anywhere [15:28] Quintasan, do you want to make the changes that ulmlogger asked for? [15:28] so he probably still didn't upload it... [15:28] Quintasan: uh yeah, that one [15:28] rbelem: If they involve doing some coding then I'm the last person you want that from :< [15:29] Quintasan, nope... just some packageing changes [15:29] Quintasan: no, I think it was rather marking the stuff from experimental as coming from experimental [15:29] You are both talking about kdelibs, right? I can do them, what was that ulmlogger wanted? [15:30] cyphermox: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268038 - Not sure what the 015 version being discussed there? [15:30] KDE bug 268038 in KDED Module "kded4 eating 100% cpu - ntrack related" [Normal,Resolved: upstream] [15:31] Quintasan, i just forwarded the email that ulmlogger sent to me [15:31] Cool. [15:32] thanks Quintasan :-) [15:34] ScottK: afaik this is what the 3 commits on top of 014 were fixing [15:34] ulmlogger: Should "This package contains experimental software and should not be used in production environment" be enought for libkactivities? [15:34] OK. [15:37] bzr: ERROR: Cannot lock LockDir(lp-67418768:///~yofel/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs-active-4.7/.bzr/branchlock): Transport operation not possible: readonly transport [15:37] wtf [15:37] o.O - use branch [15:37] or are you trying to commit? [15:37] I want to push [15:37] err... that branch is owned by me, not possible [15:38] you'll have to push to your own [15:38] yofel: http://paste.kde.org/109741 commit this instead [15:39] Then I will review and we can upload it [15:39] runtime is more problematic [15:39] quoting ulmlogger [15:39] >patches are not particularly regression save [15:40] [lp:~yofel/kubuntu-packaging/kdelibs-active-4.7] Philip Muškovac * 376 * debian/control explain that libkactivities and libkdeclarative are experimental [15:42] debfx: Uploaded. [15:42] (pykde4) [15:42] ofc -j12 won't work.... [15:42] fu pbuilder [15:42] I'm wondering what breaks that actually [15:43] * Quintasan goes for a nap [15:44] make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/buildd/kde4libs-4.7.0' [15:44] make[2]: warning: jobserver unavailable: using -j1. Add `+' to parent make rule. [15:44] SUP [15:45] Oh wait [15:45] http://i.imgur.com/cbRmv.png [15:45] lol [15:46] I'm not convinced that you have at least 11 cores on your system ^ [15:46] ^^ [15:51] I use -j12 [15:54] yofel: Builds and installs fine [15:55] I do bzr push now, right? [15:56] well, use bzr merge if you want to auto-close the merge request [15:59] * bulldog98 blames ulmlogger [16:01] yofel: like [16:02] kbzr branch kde-libs [16:02]