=== __mikem is now known as mmiller235 [00:43] Anyone else experiencing "funkyness" when doing Alt+Tab? [00:44] my computer plays Pfunk. [00:54] alex_mayorga, Alt+tab is very slow here, but Dash is even slower. [00:54] Daekdroom: what's "Dash"? [00:55] I get overlapped UI on Alt+Tab [00:55] It's what shows up when you click the "Ubuntu" button in the launcher [00:55] try unity --reset to reset compiz settings to default and have only the new Alt+tab appear. [00:56] Daekdroom: let me try that, does it need sudo? [00:56] Nope [00:56] Daekdroom: a bug I see in "dash" is that the arrow keys doesn't move the selection [01:02] got a bunch of warnings there, worth reporting? [01:31] http://paste.ubuntu.com/666127/ [01:31] above is the output of unity --reset so far [01:32] Daekdroom: is my unity messed up? [01:35] all is not well in the ubuntu camp. http://pastebin.com/Rdv08yqr . Im trying to add a pci device for passthrough in xen 4.1 ubuntu 11.10. Any help would be hugely appreciated, google didnt help [01:37] Daekdroom: the terminal where I ran unity --reset is yet to return a prompt, would it break anything if I Ctrl+C ? [01:38] alex_mayorga, yep [01:38] pr0d: time to bug virt-manager it seems [01:38] alex_mayorga, you can use Alt+F2 'unity' so you can close the terminal. [01:38] Daekdroom: so I better leave it alone until it finishes? [01:38] Well, the terminal will be busy as long as that unity PID is running. [01:39] I forgot to mention you should have used &disown, my bad. [01:39] Daekdroom: no worries, did you get a chance to look at my paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/666127/ [01:39] perhaps it does need sudo [01:40] ? [01:40] Nope. Whatever causes those errors is not because you didn't run it with sudo. [01:40] Daekdroom: mind giving me the complete command once more? [01:40] unity --reset &disown [01:40] I see [01:40] --reset specifically sets everything to default [01:41] Alt+Tab looks better now, though [01:44] can anyone tell me where the xm vm config file are stored. I cant seem to find the plain text files i am used to on previous distros [01:44] xen* [01:58] Daekdroom: this is the latest http://paste.ubuntu.com/666141/ [01:58] is a compiz crash expected here? [02:00] it also crashed chromium while at it [02:00] I can't tell. [02:01] Unity has crashed a lot in here, specially the window manager. === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [03:54] hi there I was told to come here to talk about my boot splash [03:54] Hi there I am playing with my boot splash right now and having some troubles . I have a nvidia-current installed but it don't show up in lsmod only nouveau I tried to blacklist this Nothing stays loaded I try sudo rmmod nothing says it is running I drop x and still nothing [03:54] uname -a [03:54] Linux bob-Compaq-Presario-CQ60-Notebook-PC 3.0.1-030001-generic #201108060905 SMP Sat Aug 6 10:43:25 UTC 2011 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux [03:55] seems to be a bug in the Kernel ? [03:55] I know nothing about this [03:56] I would like to say that it is natty also with kde frame [03:57] sudo update-initramfs -u [03:57] http://paste.ubuntu.com/666180/ [03:58] I removed ubuntu logo did not think that that would kill it [03:58] it is the firmware that I am missing [03:58] maybee [03:59] but then I think that I have nivdia card in computer makes me wonder if nivida-current and nouveau are fighting [04:00] lspci -nn | grep VGA [04:00] 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: nVidia Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200M G] [10de:0845] (rev a2) [04:01] bobweaver, you saving this for posterity? [04:01] what is posterity ? [04:02] http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/posterity [04:03] you use later or future generations. [04:04] anyone can [04:04] right that is the way opensource works [04:05] the channel is for help not your play by play action is the point. ;) [04:05] I thought that that info is important sor any one trying to help [04:05] I thought that that info is important for* any one trying to help [04:06] I even use paste.ubuntu.com [04:11] it just helps to wait for the help with a question, posting as you have knocks out most who will help, as it is not channel use policy, do wht you want, it just cuts down your chances,;-) [04:14] you know what bro I would not even begin to say how nevermind -|- ()() |_ [04:19] Can somebody please verify whether or not bug 379382 also occurs in oneiric? [04:19] Launchpad bug 379382 in gnome-utils "gnome-screenshot (Alt-Printscreen) black/blanks out top of windows in multi monitor xinerama" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379382 [07:13] hi [07:45] Howdy. After today's update, the GUI won't start. I tried stopping and starting lightdm from another VT. Any other suggestions? [07:49] shpuld i use 11.10 [07:49] not if you don't like unity [07:50] And not if you need a stable system. It is only an alpha at the moment. [07:51] But, if you like to experiment and have a spare system, then sure. [07:51] Can somebody please verify whether or not bug 379382 also occurs in oneiric? [07:52] Launchpad bug 379382 in gnome-utils "gnome-screenshot (Alt-Printscreen) black/blanks out top of windows in multi monitor xinerama" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/379382 [07:52] Does anyone know why oneiric keeps trying to install java? It seems to be a dependancy for several media apps, for some odd reason. [07:59] PythonPup: "aptitude why $java-package" for the package you want to know about [08:00] interesting command. I'll try it. thanks. [08:02] please do not remove synaptic [08:03] They plan to just remove it from the CD, as far as I have read. It will stay in the repo, so after you boot up, just go to a command line and sudo apt-get install synaptic [08:03] or install it from software-center even [08:12] Apparently, you are now supposed to launch all applications from the command line. I can't get anything to launch from Unity any other way. [10:37] Hi, I upgraded to 11.10 alpha3 from 11.04 but when system wants to boot , I get this error from gurb : symbol not found : 'grub_divmod64_full' , can you help me? [10:39] I googled somethings about it , someone said you should purge grub , but I can't access to my ubuntu to purge grub [10:39] how can I do it ? [10:42] karname, boot from a livecd, mount your harddrive and chroot into it [10:47] Is there really no sensors monitor GUI for kubuntu in the new release? No kima, no ksensors. [10:47] I can do with cli myself, but it seems like a somewhat serious lack. [10:52] can I fix it with super grub disc ? [10:55] karname: not sure what super grub disc does. Maybe? [11:23] Hi, my .local/share/akonadi is about 7G so I moved .local to another disk and symlinked to it [11:23] but now kmail gives an error [11:23] the details of the error is here: http://pastebin.com/vcqxcSkx === nyuszika7h is now known as christel_ === christel_ is now known as nyuszika7h [11:32] I want to make a new install of Oneiric. The install image is too large for a CD, so I am trying to make a USB boot. I am using a natty system to make the boot USB drive. The Make Startup Disk button won't enable. I have plenty of free space. Any ideas? [11:34] PythonPup: are you sure that the ISO is selected? I believe startupdisk creator has an annoying tendency to not select the [11:34] ISO you just added [11:36] You are right that it does not remember the new iso, even though I have used it several times. I just selected it, and then selected the disk drive. [11:38] hello? [11:39] just asking, is the unity menu bar transparent in the latest update? [11:40] the start menu itself i mean [11:40] and the logo is now at the bar [12:00] Hey folks [12:03] hellup! I have two alt-tab windows at the same time! [12:03] * Chipaca is drowning in alt-tabs [14:02] is there a way of quickly disabling the screensaver / screen blanking altogether in ocelot? [14:02] I'd also like to know that [14:02] 22:20:41 < trism> Rods_Tiger: currently I have: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.screensaver idle-activation-enabled false; and then xset -dpms; and that seems to have killed it [14:03] didn't that work last night Rods_Tiger ? [14:03] when the saver kicks in I ahve to crash it to get back to the desktop [14:03] (luckyly crashing it is very easy ^^) [14:03] jtaylor: hmm [14:03] maybe it's the screensaver that's slow after suspend.. [14:03] really? I've used xset -dpms in various combinations but although it keeps the screen alive, there's still something that just draws a 'blank page' over the screen content [14:04] if you wait long jtaylor it comes back [14:04] and also another thing, setting it to 1 hour doesn't give one hour - more like a few mins [14:04] well I can type into windows under the screensaver so its all still running [14:04] (typed my user pw into irc because of that once ._.) [14:05] aha - what's that idle-activation-enabled false? [14:05] where does that go? [14:05] oh jtaylor that hurts [14:05] it's a command [14:05] ok [14:05] "gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.screensaver idle-activation-enabled false" [14:05] in the command line [14:05] I'll try that [14:05] it will set that key to false [14:06] thx I'll try if that setting works [14:07] I've typed it in. Now I just need to wait until nothing happens, to see if it works [14:08] :D [14:11] actually, I thought of an idea for ocelot for when it is released - implement 'airprint' functionality built in, so that iPads can print to ocelot connected printers. That'd be extremely popular. No idea how to do it myself though. [14:12] bleh apple stuff :p [14:12] ? [14:23] hurray it worked [14:24] doesn't oneiric have airprint already? I read a mail about it in -dev a while ago [14:26] Rods_Tiger: yeah, 11.10 should have airprint working already [14:37] bug 711779 [14:37] Launchpad bug 711779 in cups (Ubuntu Natty) "AirPrint support in the Avahi patch for CUPS does not work" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/711779 [14:37] fixed... so yeah === kancerman_ is now known as kancerman [14:43] excellent - that's going to please a lot of people if that's publicised [14:43] new way unity/compiz is working is pretty cool, too :D [15:10] [15:14] the gsettings idle-activation thing worked! Excellent, thanks [15:19] well thank trism :p he told you that last night :) [16:03] Curious.. has anyone run into this while trying to configure the latest kernel: [16:03] E: /usr/share/syslinux/debian/extlinux: No such file or directory [16:13] hmm.. seems extlinux causes issues when installed w/o recommends [16:19] hello [16:19] i am on the live session of oneiric and i am trying to run ccsm [16:20] when i enter a command in the alt + f2 prompt, nothing happens [16:20] any ideas? [16:23] it's not intall by default [16:28] Ian_Corne: i installed it now, but it does not appear i can use it.. [16:30] aaargh, i installed it with that software center, but it seems it is not installed... [16:31] it's probably still busy? [16:32] works now [16:32] installed it with apt-get [16:33] i cannot seem to change the left bar width in it [16:33] any ideas? [16:33] left vertical bar [16:58] go to the Ubuntu unituy plugin [16:58] click experimental [16:58] and there you can change the icon size [16:58] that's what changes the width [18:04] !info python [18:04] python (source: python-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.7.2-5ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 161 kB, installed size 768 kB [18:29] I would like adhoc networking to work in 11.04, but is appears that you need a fairly new kernel for that to work; one which is available in Ubuntu+1. Are there also backported kernels (with nvidia packages) available? [18:30] rly: no. [18:30] Pici: still no luck on either a compile or a install of nvidia on a ck kernel [18:30] Pici: it is quite disappointing that these basic things don't work (they did work in 10.10, so I have read) [18:30] any ideas ? [18:31] It seems like Oneiric installation made swap unavailable to other installatons. [18:31] Pici: will installing Oneriric Ocelot release gremlins? [18:31] New kernel versions aren't backported, and I don't believe that the 3.x release was stuck in the kernel ppa. [18:31] rly: yes. [18:31] Oneiric Ocelot* [18:32] Its rather often that people are asking in here about nvidia issues :/ [18:32] Is it safe to reformat swap partition so that Natty can use it? [18:32] funny these issues seem very ubuntu specific too [18:33] oneric specific more like it [18:36] dsathe: may be something specific to the ck kernel, I build 3.0.1 with make-kpkg yesterday as a test and nvidia-current rebuilt for it without issues [18:38] I find it curious that every single time I just have built the last released kernel everything has worked while distro specific kernels always have more bugs. [18:42] dsathe: oh, actually as a test I just moved the source directories out of the way so the links to the source would be deleted and just the headers package used and I'm getting the same error you are [18:42] dsathe: so you may want to try rebuilding the kernel with make-kpkg so you have the built source available [18:49] dsathe: it seems the linux-headers package is missing some files the dkms scripts expect, but they are present in the source tree (vbox is dying on Makefile_32.cpu here according to make.log) [19:04] it took me about 10 seconds to realize there are no dropdown menus in dolphin [19:05] i like. i was inclined to do things without menus anyway. [19:05] works [19:05] o.0 [19:06] rekonq seems much more stable than in 11.04 for me [19:08] and the new folder icons are cool too. but one of the best things is the font rendering . so much nicer to read nau [19:12] i lied. it took me a day to realize there were no menus in dolphin.. i didnt miss them [19:14] am expecting someone to say it's a big deal .. whos it gonna be? [19:14] >:( [19:14] good [19:16] in all. am very excited for these set of smart changes for kde [19:16] just so you know [19:17] hehe kyubutsu [19:19] another small change, the default clock widget.. +1 ! o.0 [19:19] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/ubiquity/+bug/709363/comments/10 [19:19] Ubuntu bug 709363 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) "swap partition disappeared during installation" [High,Incomplete] [19:19] trism: [19:19] thanks tht is interesting [19:19] i did notice broken symlinks [19:20] in src from the headers right now [19:20] lemme try that out ;) [19:20] so what is causing this kpkg or binutils [19:21] arch n gentoo forums seemd to be wailing about some diffs in binutils as culprit [19:23] I wonder when the digital clock in thew panel will report the time in AMPM 12 hr format as it does in KDE Clock settings Kontrol module [19:23] trism: any way we can gen a log to see which step makefile fails at ? [19:24] dsathe: the logs are in /var/lib/dkms/some_module/some_kernel_version/log/make.log [19:24] nvidia-instll [19:24] nvidia-installer.log [19:24] from var [19:24] /var/log [19:24] also too cryptic [19:24] does not tell u what exact file he's lookin for when he fails [19:25] trism: tht is too cryptic [19:25] dsathe: it was straightforward here, can you pastebin yours? [19:25] dsathe: oh you mean the path I gave? [19:25] one sec [19:25] no [19:25] the error log in itslef [19:26] it tells u failed [19:26] does not give specific line numbers [19:26] that one expects make to give [19:27] BluesKaj: you mean three digit clock for 12hour format? [19:27] heer u go http://pastebin.com/zVP7nCNn [19:27] this one is from the nvidia binary [19:27] wait ill post dkms logs too [19:27] kyubutsu, well it's 4 digits , but yes [19:28] kyubutsu, been a problem since natty was a baby [19:28] the log gen by dkms is even more useless http://pastebin.com/k9DjN4e4 [19:29] now it's in oneiric [19:29] its not so awkward to me. but i do agree it shouldnt show a zero upfront for am/pm time format [19:31] kyubutsu,the "0" isn't problenm for me , I'm used to the time in AMPM , not the 24hr format , which it displays now no matter what the setting [19:32] dsathe: right, I forgot about that, the log I was looking at was actually for the vbox modules (they killed the build before it could get to nvidia-current), they were more informative [19:33] precisely [19:33] could u pastebin those [19:33] maybee i could figure out [19:33] look asm symlinks [19:33] were broken in /usr/src [19:33] gen by kernel headers [19:33] also surprising [19:33] i think [19:34] version.h could be causing it [19:34] dsathe: sure one sec, I'll break it again and try to build both [19:34] "-ck" is appended to version by ck patcheset [19:34] could be casuing issues [19:34] in way its being handeled [19:35] dsathe: I don't think that is the issue, I appended -jco-05 to mine [19:35] i did too [19:35] i appended -ck-dsathe-rev5 [19:35] indicating my .config revisions [19:35] dsathe: but it built correctly when I had the source available (failed with only the headers) [19:35] yep [19:35] thats why i said [19:36] issue could be with kpkg or binutils [19:36] while generating the kernel itself [19:36] i mean headers [19:36] dkms could be clean [19:38] yep i restored the symlinks to build source now seems to be compiling :D [19:38] nah [19:39] wait a sec [19:39] did u install the headers deb at all or not [19:39] coz it failed [19:39] i renamed the src to original [19:39] and reinstalled both packages [19:40] could that be a issue [19:40] ? [19:40] dsathe: yes I installed the headers deb, but with debs made with make-kpkg, the links will point to the source directory if available, but if missing, will be deleted and point to the headers path instead [19:43] oias [19:44] is there such a command as lshdmi ?...I have dci out on my graphics card with hdmi connector on the tv input end and phonon lists 9 hdmi outputs and they all output the "test sound" , so they must be bussed to thru soundcard , but there's no hdmi port on the graphics , or mobo . Anybody have a similsr setup .I find it rather odd. [19:44] dci=dvi [19:45] hmm [19:45] i have dvi on my graphics card too. but i also have hdmi [19:46] I have no sound .... for two days [19:46] i heard that dvi doesn't carry the audio, even though it is electrically identical to hdmi [19:46] any help? [19:46] but that might be BS [19:46] tried both trunk PPA and archive [19:46] dsathe: when it fails I get the same make.log for nvidia as you, vbox has this log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/666738/ [19:46] So am I the only one with two different task/window switchers active now (alt-tab)?? Anybody know how to get rid of the old one? [19:47] BluesKaj: Digital Clock Settings>Appereance>Date Format <---next to it there is a settings button for it, have you tried changing anything in there [19:47] ali1234, no, dvi doesn't carry audio , afaik ...maybe I should check the tv speakers , which I seldom use [19:47] funny [19:48] what patches u using ? [19:48] jco ??? [19:48] dsathe: no patches, it is a stock 3.0.1 with a trimmed .config [19:48] kyubutsu, yes the lttle wrench icon is the KDE Clock Settings Kontrol Module [19:48] kk [19:49] mine seems to be fine [19:49] lemme see ill brbr [19:49] * dsathe rebooting [19:53] ali1234, nope no audio thru the dvi [19:55] BluesKaj, wait, you have a dvi cable going from your graphics card to an hdmi at the tv? [19:55] BluesKaj: I have *no* audio.. none at all [19:56] BUGabundo, what does the sound indicator say about this? [19:57] back [19:57] noticably faster kernels :) [19:57] bjsnider: I'm on lubuntu [19:57] can't login to any gnome [19:57] actually I can't even get to lightdm [19:57] using startX [19:57] ... [19:57] its not my fault you guys break it [19:57] i'd say you have worse problems than sound at this point [19:58] no [19:58] sound is the worse problem right now [19:58] broken CIFS on boot is 2nd [19:58] lightdm would be 3rd [19:58] if this keeps up, this might be my last dev cycle [19:59] finally getting tired of always having something broken [19:59] so far 11.10 was the worse dev cycled I've been in :\ [19:59] bjsnider, yes . I bought an adapter cable dvi>hdmi . since there's ni hdmi out on the nvidia 8400gs [19:59] no hdmi [19:59] what is the command to increase lcd bbrightness [19:59] BUGabundo: I agree in general. I don't know specifics in this case. [19:59] ? [19:59] so then what is your procedure to carry audio to the tv, rf cables? [20:00] stereo plugs? [20:00] I would like to know whether it is incompetence (unforgivable) or just ignorance (w.r.t. what the hardware does, which is forgivable) [20:01] best idea would be to buy a $50 nvidia gt 210 and just use hdmi [20:01] bjsnider, no, I use spdif /digtal coax out to an DAC input on an audio receiver [20:01] AH [20:01] fonts changed again [20:01] wth [20:01] hello [20:02] when i push on say, media apps icon in dash, it doesnt populate the applicatoins installed [20:02] dash just dissapears [20:03] bjsnider, my plasma tv is also my pc monitor ...it does double duty [20:03] how do i increase my screen brightness/lcd backlight using command line , my right arrw tht increases brightness is spoilt :( [20:04] BluesKaj, an external dac. let me guess, the logitech z5500s, right? [20:05] dsathe: you need platform support for that. [20:05] such as ? [20:05] yep its my func key [20:05] im sorry is it to early to ask for support for Oncelot? [20:05] no bjsnider , it's not an external DAC , it's the one on the Harman Kardon receiver [20:05] plus a right arrow that does it [20:05] dsathe: you need documentation for the exact platform as a developer. [20:05] ah, i c [20:05] dsathe: or you have to reverse-engineer Windows drivers. [20:05] the gnome 3 screen had a slider [20:06] that i used [20:06] dsathe: so, e.g. Novell has supported certain devices. [20:06] it disapperaed suddenly one day via some random update [20:06] rly [20:06] dsathe: they work, because they were designed to work. [20:06] i was lookin at something simpler [20:06] the key is physically spoilt [20:06] dsathe: ok [20:06] i used xmodmap to remap it [20:07] to another [20:07] but that one does not do the brightness up func [20:07] with the Fn key combo [20:07] is there a comment to emulate a keypress [20:07] tht way i could simulatex86BrightnesUp [20:07] or soething like that [20:08] dsathe: which laptop is this btw? [20:08] XF86KbdBrightnessUp [20:08] acer [20:09] bjsnider, alsa does a great job of passing the DTS and DD signals thru VLC to the receiver ..I'm quite impressed.One has to get the settings right in the VLC tools/audio section tho. [20:10] when i push on say, media apps icon in dash, it doesn't populate the applications installed [20:11] BluesKaj, pulse was supposed to have passthru by now [20:11] yes it does , but I don't bother with pulseaudio [20:15] should i not ask for help yet? [20:16] lol [20:17] hey all [20:17] dont bother [20:17] lol [20:17] i'm just doing an upgrade to 11.10, just wondering is lightdm now the default as setup is asking me to choose between gdm and lightdm... [20:18] and i would prefer to choose whatever 11.10 is going to use as default [20:18] billybigrigger: lightdm [20:18] !ask [20:18] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [20:18] billybigrigger, go with gdm, from what I've seen there's bugs in lightdm [20:19] MrDave, ^^^ [20:19] billybigrigger, heres a good article on that, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/07/how-to-switch-between-gdm-lightdm-or.html [20:19] :/ [20:19] billybigrigger: The plan as I understand it is to use lightdm. [20:19] XF86KbdBrightnessUp how can i emulate thi event ? [20:19] alright thanks for the input guys :) appreciate it [20:19] webupd8 tells you how to set lightDM up [20:20] 11.10 has now switched to gtk3 aswell correct? [20:20] yep [20:20] right arm [20:21] BUGabundo: ping [20:22] BUGabundo: just wanted to give you a high five! hah it's been awhile, catch ya on the flip side [20:23] he can't hear pings anymore since his sound doesn't work [20:24] any major show stoppers with the 3.0.0 kernel yet? [20:24] or is that just a kernel version change for the bling factor? [20:24] the latter [20:24] i've been away from my computers for waaaay too long :P [20:26] any new decent games out for nix lately? [20:26] native or ports? [20:26] billybigrigger: pong [20:26] hah thanks bud :P [20:27] thank you bug [20:27] *bud [20:27] bjsnider: correrct. but I can see the blue highlit [20:28] BUGabundo: how the hell are ya? [20:31] tired [20:31] hot [20:31]