=== bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [03:01] How would I scan my network to see all the names of my computers connected to it [03:02] your router can show you [03:07] thanks! [03:07] * philipballew had a brain fart [03:08] there's a program to do it without logging into the router though right? [03:09] i think nmap would somehow maybe, but i wasnt sure [03:10] philipballew: nmap is a port scanner [03:11] ah, it can tell me what ip addresses are being used though i know [03:32] would anyone wanna recommend a good router? [08:10] how to move left side icons to bttom? [08:15] how are you gonna do that? [08:15] Tomikasss, I'm not a unity user [08:15] I cannot help you [08:15] i am [08:16] philipballew, if you have a spare computer, I would suggest to use pfSense as a router [08:16] never heard of it. what does it do bioterror [08:16] philipballew, it's a firewall/router [08:16] Tomikasss, you want to move the dock? [08:16] philipballew, Mon06:32* would anyone wanna recommend a good router? [08:17] philipballew, I'm using pfSense as my router on a intel atom board [08:17] bioterror, ill look into that. I figured that was what you were talking about. probably really secure [08:17] it is [08:17] and easy to configure and does a DNS to your home network without a problem [08:17] what does "Daemon is inhibited" mean? o.O [08:18] i'm trying to mount an ntfs partition [08:18] ubuntu or ubuntu server? [08:18] ubuntu [08:18] is this a windows partition? [08:19] it has been used with windows, tho it's not the C: partition [08:20] hum, and what did google say? [08:22] maybe? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604563 [08:22] ive seen this one [08:22] ^maybe [08:23] i just looked at that xD lol but that tells me to reboot, and i'm on liveCD right now and want to install, but dont want to remove that ntfs partition [08:23] what partition are you wanting to install to? [08:24] https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/119956 [08:30] read eveyrthing there an non of it helped, i actually removed the C: partition and only have the D: partition(the one i want to save) and have unallocated memory, but i dont know how to install ubuntu without removing the D: partition because everytime it say's that it will remove it "/ [08:49] you might be installing it wrong [08:57] agree [09:14] Hello. [11:13] how can i install it wrong if i haven't even passed the partition screen? :S [11:15] good question [11:18] if i choose sda1 to install the boot loader on, will it still affect my ntfs partition? === nlsthzn_ is now known as nlsthzn_work === raju1 is now known as raju [20:26] Hello everyone. I'm new to Ubuntu and if it's okay I would like to ask a question. [20:27] Oh just read the heading which says 'just ask' so I'm just gonna ask: [20:27] :) [20:28] I plugged in my headset and then the sound comes out of both the speakers and the headset and I'd like to mute the speakers but not the headset. Can you help me? [20:29] Oh nlsthzn you're here too [20:29] Your name is hard to type :-) [20:29] Kathrin: just type the first three letters and then press tab ;) [20:30] works for any user name... [20:30] nlsthzn_work: oh nice! Thanks for the tip [20:30] I find it very useful :) np [20:31] Kathrin is using Ubuntu 11.04 [20:31] Oh yes. I should have mentioned that. Thank you. [20:33] there is a ppa that installs upstream sound drivers [20:34] ppa? [20:34] !ppa [20:34] A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa [20:34] Oh! [20:35] !ppa [20:35] A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa [20:35] Cool! [20:35] let me grab that [20:35] hehe [20:35] !ponies [20:35] Factoid 'ponies' not found [20:35] :( [20:36] Aw... [20:36] !sound [20:36] If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [20:37] Wow he knows a lot. Like a small wikipedia. [20:37] whats your model number of this computer [20:37] So I go to the sound thing and read a little. [20:37] no, well you can. hold on im gonna look up stuff once you give me the model number [20:38] Sorry, but I don't know what model numer means. [20:39] *number [20:39] my keybord sucks [20:39] but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules [20:39] i want you to install this first [20:40] Ok. [20:40] would you like some help installing :) [20:41] * nlsthzn_work was wondering if it might have been alsa related... naughty alsa... [20:41] Well yes... I was too embarassed to ask... [20:42] nlsthzn, you think installing the ppa is a good idea? [20:42] open a terminal Kathrin [20:42] Ok. [20:43] It's open. [20:43] copy these lines one by one pressing enter after eac hline is pasted [20:43] *each [20:43] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa [20:44] sudo apt-get update [20:44] * nlsthzn_work is not qualified to give advice at this time (he might never be :p) [20:44] sudo apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r) [20:44] nlsthzn_work: +1 [20:45] Oh my password does not work. [20:45] there will be no stars... just type it and hot enter ;) [20:45] *hit [20:45] the laptop wont show you entering your password, but its still gonna be typing it [20:46] Oh now I get it. [20:46] the thing doesnt know to put *'s so it puts nothing [20:46] :) [20:47] Hm, it says I am not in the "sudoers file"? [20:48] nlsthzn_work, have you seen that before? [20:48] is this your own computer or do you share it? [20:48] Its my own. [20:48] Oh but wait. [20:49] * philipballew waiting [20:49] When I installed I made two accounts: One Admin thing and one without admin [20:49] On a fresh install without any tom-foolary there shouldn't be an issue... [20:49] ? [20:49] Do I have to switch the user? [20:49] switch to the admin user [20:49] And this is on Ubuntu 11.04 correct? [20:50] yes [20:50] Ok I switch. [20:51] sounds good. now two things [20:51] put those commands in and give me the model number of your computer [20:53] ill look online and see if anyone has had this exact problem. [20:54] How new is this computer? [20:57] ... she left when I was helping. I dislike this [21:01] philipballew: her net connection not to stable... give a moment I am sure she will be back :) [21:01] I hope that ppa works [21:02] yeah... you never know why folks drop :/ [21:02] philipballew: you were asking about routers.. i like the ddwrt firmware, and i buy compatible routers (usually used) [21:03] ddwrt is nice. holstein is it possible to configure a router remotely? [21:04] philipballew: sure... i dont leave mine setup that way though [21:04] you can make it where the admin page is accessible from the outside [21:04] i use dynsns to translate my IP to a domain name [21:04] dynDNS ** [21:06] yeah, I'm goin back to san diego for another year of college and the rents need a new router. the currently have the stock att router [21:06] eww... I know [21:06] philipballew: you could always do something like teamviewer, and go in from the rents box that way [21:07] that would work. team viewer is nice for fixing computers remotely if need be [21:07] * philipballew prefers ssh, but... [21:08] i like it... easy for the rents to understand, and doesnt have to be running in the background [21:09] some routers that do ddwrt are pretty cheep [21:09] its not in the repos i dont think [21:10] but a deb is easy to install [21:10] dpkg -i [21:11] i got 3 for $30 the other day :) [21:12] oh nice, what kind were they? [21:12] linksys wrt54g's [21:14] those are nice, I own one of those [21:14] * philipballew will be taking that to college. [21:15] Sorry for taking so long. [21:16] no prob [21:16] Can you tell me again what to do? [21:17] sure. whats the model number for your computer [21:17] I don't know. How can I find out? [21:18] laptop? [21:18] Yes [21:18] look on the bottom probably [21:19] like mine is a dell studio 1558 [21:19] that way i can see if anyone else has had the problem to. [21:20] There are several numbers. But one says 'Aspire 5250' and then lots of more numbers. [21:21] Is that the right one? [21:21] Kathrin: yup [21:21] thats an acer [21:21] acer is the manufacturer, aspire 5250 is the model :) [21:21] Oh yes Acer. That's also what's on the top. [21:22] And when I start it also says acer [21:22] Kathrin: unfortunately, this might just be one of those tricky things that you never quite get sorted out [21:22] alright hold on a couple minutes. im gonna look this up [21:22] Oh :-( [21:22] i would suggest opening the terminal and run [21:22] alsamixer [21:23] Oh ok, but let's wait for philipballew before I do anything. [21:23] you can try fiddling around there and see if you have a way to mute the speakers with headphones plugged in [21:23] I have looked through most of the Ubuntu manual....need to know how to map my NAS drive in Ubuntu [21:24] you can also try installing a package which will add some functionality to pulse audio [21:24] go do what he says while i look around :) [21:24] sudo apt-get install pavucontrol [21:24] ok [21:24] Kathrin: neither of these will do anything permanent them selves [21:24] they are just places to make changes that might get you the result you are going for === MichealH is now known as Guest43980 [21:25] other than that... filing, and keeping up with a bug would help [21:25] filing over at alsa would be ideal [21:25] Nubi1Kenobi: what NAS? [21:25] ssh? ftp? sftp? samba? [21:26] holstein, Basicallly a just a network drive [21:26] holstein, dns-323 to be more specific. [21:26] Ok I opened alsamixer. But I do not know what to do. [21:27] you could check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab Nubi1Kenobi [21:27] Kathrin: you literally just tweak things (carefully) [21:27] see if you can get the headphones to be working, and the speakers muted [21:27] just notice what you did, and know how to undo it [21:27] holstein, i found what i was looking for [21:27] holstein, she might wanna run lspci -vvv so we can see her sound card [21:28] Kathrin: pavucontrol is more "GUI", i would go for that first [21:28] vvv will show the driver in use [21:28] philipballew: sure... thats one way to go... im just assuming theres no better support available [21:28] but, maybe there is :) [21:29] Oh that's going too fast for me. So what do I do first? The lspci thing? [21:29] Kathrin: i would step back... [21:29] ask yourself... how important is this to you? [21:30] i can say... its not going to be an easy 'click a button' fix probably... [21:30] holstein, can you look at this....a little confusing to me. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1105264 [21:30] that being said, you can totally get this sorted, even if you have to file a bug at ALSA [21:30] go to this website: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ Kathrin [21:30] Kathrin: if you want to paste bin the output of lspci, that'll help [21:31] now paste the output of lspci -vvv and do it with the terminal all the way maximized [21:31] Nubi1Kenobi: you know your IP? can you ping it? [21:31] Ok. Well it's not THAT important but would be nice if it worked [21:31] Ok [21:32] then just pit the link you get after you click paste [21:32] Kathrin: with linux, i usually suggest to pick your battles... this could literally easily eat a way a few days of your life, and you are still not getting the thing to do what you want [21:33] the code is all open, and the teams are willing... the hardware vendors are another story though [21:33] usually, if hardware can work, it does [21:33] wont hurt to look around that [21:33] though* [21:34] and check the options in pavucontrol [21:34] I pasted, this is the link: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/666809/ [21:34] philipballew: updating alsa is a good call too [21:34] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules [21:35] Kathrin: would you run a few more commands and paste bin them? [21:35] aplay -l [21:35] arecord -l [21:35] ok [21:35] holstein, Yes I can ping it. [21:35] Nubi1Kenobi: thats a good start [21:36] the rest just looks like what i would expect... permissions, and adding to fstab [21:36] ok [21:36] not trivial, but do-able [21:36] holstein, just seems a bit tediuos [21:37] Nubi1Kenobi: yup... i would probably just get samba going and navigate to it as needed [21:37] holstein, And I would have to do this eery time right? [21:37] every [21:37] Nubi1Kenobi: well, it would hopefully look like navigating to it, and clicking [21:37] nothing crazy [21:37] but, yeah... [21:38] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/666810/ [21:38] holstein, is there an easy way to create a script to handle this? [21:39] philipballew: was the link meant for me? [21:39] its the updated sound drivers [21:39] Kathrin: how would you feel about trying ubuntu 10.04 live? [21:39] hehe... Unity for ever :p [21:39] Nubi1Kenobi: define easy... ;) [21:40] This channel is almost becoming as crazy as #ubuntu (and me posting isn't helping) ... lurk mode ACTIVATE [21:40] i think easy is going to be fstab in the long term, and just navigating each time in the short term [21:40] holstein, I could write a quick ahk script in win7..... [21:40] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto [21:41] Isn't 10.04 older? [21:41] but that would not work here [21:41] ^steps to help [21:41] Kathrin: im reading that the sound device is well supported in 10.04 (the LTS, long term support) [21:42] Kathrin: you could try it live, see if the card works, then... you can decide if you want to install 10.04, or make note of the alsa and kernel versions and we can discuss your options [21:42] Kathrin: if 10.04 *doesnt* seem to work any better, then you still know something helpful [21:43] Oh wait this is all going too fast. [21:43] Kathrin: no hurry [21:43] no stress either [21:43] i say, do what you feel comfortable with [21:44] for me, when i was a new user, and even still... i use live CD's to learn things... what kernels work, how well hardware support used to be [21:44] this is something that is easy to do, and not affect the machine at all [21:48] beginner question, I've installed the ide jGrasp to /opt/jgrasp and it launches from a script /opt/jgrasp/bin/jgrasp which launches the executable /opt/jgrasp/bin/linux/jgrasp. Trying to launch the script I'm getting an error and the instructions say You may want to add the "bin" subdirectory of this directory to your execution path or create a soft link to .../jgrasp/bin/jgrasp from a directory on the executable path. [21:49] what command do I use with ln -s to create the symlink it wants ? [21:50] Ok I read the links. If I understood correctly, I have two options: installing alsa driver or using the old Ubuntu. The third thing with HdaIntelSound I didn't understand. [21:50] dec_: i would probably just try and do that in the GUI [21:50] rightclick, make link... [21:50] I don't have a gui... [21:50] dec_: good for you:) [21:51] dec_: whats your beginner question... [21:51] I'm trying to launch the script for jgrasp and I think it can't find the executable it wants [21:51] Kathrin, hey! so i would boot into the cd like you did when you installed ubuntu but this time use 10.04 and not 11.04 [21:52] ln -s filename linkname is all in know :/ [21:52] then see if sound works, if not id say install updated sound configuring software onto the laptop. then if neither of those work. well see other options [21:52] I dont think I have 10.04. The disc says it's 11.04. Or is both on the disc? [21:52] on. [21:52] dec_: its ~/jgrasp175/jgrasp/bin/jgrasp right? [21:52] no. [21:52] youd download 11.04 [21:53] did you download 11.04? or how did you get it [21:53] No, it's /opt/jgrasp/bin/jgrasp [21:53] the script is [21:53] dec_: yeah, im looking at something old [21:54] Download? I bought a magazine with a CD [21:54] No DVD sorry. [21:54] nice! [21:54] so the script errors out with ./linux/grasp: not found [21:55] well Kathrin do you have a black cd anywhere? [21:55] *blank [21:55] dec_: what script? pastebin that... [21:55] I think I have one. I'm gonna look for it. [21:56] if you have a flash drive you can use that to [21:56] Here is the pastebin of the script [21:56] http://pastebin.com/AjJ7FZJX [21:57] I don't know what a flash drive is but I found a blank DVD. [21:57] blank dvd works perfectly [21:57] Ok. [21:58] dec_: sorry... over my head :/ [21:58] hang around though, im sure someone will come along who can help [21:58] okay thanks [21:58] holstein, she found a blank dvd and can download if she needs probably [21:59] Kathrin: its up to you really [21:59] i mean, if it were me, and that was my first linux install, id be happy sound is working :) [21:59] Kathrin: did you upgrade your pacakges? [21:59] thats an easy thing to check on [21:59] sudo apt-get update [22:00] sudo apt-get upgrade [22:00] In the terminal? [22:00] Kathrin, use the update manager\ [22:00] if you dont prefer the terminal [22:00] yeah, use whatever you want to use Kathrin ... terminal, update manager, synaptic [22:01] Ok. The terminal is hard to understand. So I start the Update Manager. [22:01] sounds good. click check and let it load and search for updates [22:01] depends on what you are used to... i find the update manager cumbersome [22:02] i only use update manager when it pops up with updates, otherwise i use terminal. [22:02] i disable it pretty quick after install [22:03] but when i was using ubuntu as a new user, back in its brown days i used it exclusively [22:03] hehe... yup [22:03] * philipballew still wonders why brown was default [22:04] i liked it... it was really an interesting look right out of the box [22:04] unique [22:04] It says I'm up-to-date. [22:04] Kathrin: i would have called that 'the easy fix' [22:04] alright. what would you do first holstein? ppa or test live? [22:05] lol... i would just deal with it [22:05] but, i never plug headphones into my laptop [22:05] i use headphones like no other [22:05] assuming you know how to purge that PPA, it wont hurt to try a newer alsa [22:05] i would look in pavucontrol though [22:06] that would be easy too [22:06] * philipballew once had a sound issue, but 18 hours straight in front of computer later... fixed! [22:06] philipballew: i hear you ;) [22:06] 18 hours? [22:06] Without a break? [22:06] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules [22:06] yeah, it was really bad Kathrin [22:07] Wow, I couldn't d othat. [22:07] My eyes would hurt. [22:08] yeah, it wasnt a common thing, but it was all evening through the night. [22:08] Ok so I do what it says in the link? [22:08] yeah. i can just paste the comands for you to paste in the terminal here [22:09] would you like that Kathrin [22:10] If you don't mind. [22:11] Sorry, to bother you with all that. I feel stupid. :-( [22:11] id love to :) [22:12] dont feel stupid. I come on here all the time with questions [22:12] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa [22:12] sudo apt-get update [22:12] Ok. [22:12] sudo apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r) [22:12] sudo reboot [22:15] my friend had an asus that had your problem and this fixed it [22:15] Oh that sounds promising :-) [22:16] holstein, even if the ppa isnt gonna work. someone can file a bug and then sometime her ppa will update and sound would work [22:17] yeah, Kathrin even if it doesnt work. these sound packages your installing update frequently, so an update might come one day and all the sudden it works [22:21] lets hope it works when she returns [22:23] I'm back. [22:25] whats up :) [22:25] Hm? [22:26] how is the sound? [22:26] Oh I forgot to test. [22:27] haha. anytime. no hurry [22:27] hehe [22:27] Oh it works! [22:28] Thank you so much. [22:28] All of you. [22:28] SWEET POTATOES! [22:28] anytime :) [22:28] so what was the fix in the end? [22:28] the ppa sudo apt-get install linux-alsa-driver-modules-$(uname -r) [22:28] the upstream has fixed it [22:28] awesome... [22:29] Kathrin, I hope you love ubuntu. anything else with ubuntu we can probably find some way to answer here to :) [22:30] * nlsthzn_work hands philipballew a cookie for all his effort... [22:30] Yes I like it very much :-) And now that I can listen to music without annoying anyone its even better [22:30] * philipballew munches cookie yum yum yum [22:31] always a plus. is there anything with your system you are unsure of or have any question about? [22:32] Hm, no everything else is fine. [22:32] excellent. well whenever you have a problem you now know where to come :) [22:32] Yes :-) [22:33] And thank you again. [22:33] if i am not here whenever you come by, holstein or someone will be here, if not ill be on soon. [22:33] you are welcome :) [22:33] Can I also come if I don't have a question? [22:33] very much so [22:33] I mean just to hang around [22:33] hang out is good [22:33] Ok great. [22:34] we talk on here and also you can maybe help someone if you can. feel free to stay loged in [22:34] Oh I think till I can help someone I have to learn lots more. [22:35] for sure, but here is a great place to learn lots more [22:35] :-) [22:35] ;) [22:36] Where are you from? US? [22:41] Or should I not have asked? [22:41] Sorry :-( [22:42] sorry, i was takin a shower Kathrin [22:42] i live in ca [22:42] what about you? [22:42] Does ca mean california? [22:42] yes it does [22:42] Wow nice. [22:43] I'm in Germany [22:43] https://twitter.com/#!/philipballew [22:43] ^thats me! [22:43] never been there. is it nice? [22:43] ca is nice. its 100f here today [22:44] but thats normal [22:44] Oh you look so young. I thought you were older. [22:44] Germany is ok. [22:45] I don't like it THAT much. [22:45] 19, that pic does look a little young. is that were you've always lived [22:46] Yes. [22:46] How come you know so much about computers with 19? [22:48] hum. ive used linux for 4 years [22:48] probaly just from breaking my system and having to fix it or have someone help me fix it [22:49] Oh I see. [22:50]