[05:30] <diwic> Ctrl-Alt-T works again in oneiric! \o/
[07:06] <dholbach> good morning
[07:25] <bkerensa> Hi, Any packaging experts about?
[07:29] <pitti> Good morning
[09:04] <tkamppeter> pitti, hi
[09:05] <pitti> hey tkamppeter
[09:05] <tkamppeter> pitti, now where the printer drivers are through the MIRs, can you seed them? bug 823545
[09:06] <pitti> tkamppeter: yep, doing now
[09:06] <tkamppeter> pitti, thanks.
[09:26] <tkamppeter> pitti, I have sent a message to the TB list and got a message that it needs moderator approval. Do I need to contact someone else to pass the message through?
[09:33] <pitti> tkamppeter: I'll moderate it
[09:44] <doko> Laney: ghc ping
[09:45] <Laney> doko: yeah?
[10:41] <cjwatson> SpamapS: yow, collectd is actually composed entirely of build failures
[10:41] <doko> thunderbird and compiz is horrible broken
[10:42] <doko> how do I get a screenshot from a MacBook keyboard?
[11:08] <ev> doko: DISPLAY=:0 gnome-screenshot -d 10 &; chvt 7
[11:37] <cjwatson> SpamapS: collectd fixed now
[11:39] <directhex> Laney, were you satisfied with 2.10.4-2?
[12:02] <Laney> directhex: yah. I requested the sync already
[12:02] <directhex> cool
[12:03] <Laney> I wonder why those upgrade bugs happen though
[12:15] <doko> ev: you still build the camera binary from the "bad" source. is this intended?
[12:15] <ev> doko: I'm halfway through sorting that now
[12:43] <OdyX> tkamppeter: Ping (w.r.t rastertodag-gdi)
[12:49] <debfx> cjwatson: may I bug you again about the kubuntu packageset? ;)
[12:49] <debfx> I think these packages should be added: http://paste.ubuntu.com/666466/
[12:51] <tkamppeter> OdyX, hi
[12:52] <OdyX> tkamppeter: Hi. Did you get my mail wrt versioning ?
[12:52] <cjwatson> debfx: could you mail me, please?
[12:52] <tkamppeter> OdyX, I have seen your mail about the problem of the source tarball not having a version number.
[12:52] <OdyX> tkamppeter: I noticed another problem too: the license is said to be "GPL", without versioning nor "or later" cause. This should really be clarified (with -2+ being preferred IMHO).
[12:52] <debfx> sure
[12:53] <tkamppeter> OdyX, I will contact the upstream author about that.
[12:54] <OdyX> tkamppeter: other than that, nice (and easy) package, thanks !
[14:29] <dobey> kees: hey. where did you leave ubuntuone-installer at?
[14:30] <pitti> cjwatson: when building an image with "ubuntu-defaults-image --components main,restricted,universe --locale zh_CN" I now get the ubuntu syslinux/gfxboot bits (thanks!), but booting fails with "/casper/vmlinuz: file not found"; indeed there's only /casper/vmlinux-3.0.0-8-generic
[14:30] <pitti> cjwatson: do you know whether something should create an appropriate symlink there, or should the syslinux configuration be changed to the versioned one?
[14:31] <dobey> pitti: i guess kees isn't around yet. trying to figure out where
[14:31] <dobey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/817133 is at, and what i need to do for it
[14:32] <dobey> evil paste, pasted a 'RET' instead of my url :-/
[14:32] <cjwatson> pitti: yeah, I know, on my queue to look at, I don't know the answer yet
[14:32] <cjwatson> need to compare against the real images
[14:33] <pitti> cjwatson: the real images actually have /casper/vmlinuz and /casper/initrd.lz, so I guess they should be renamed
[14:34] <cjwatson> it would be best to match the real ones, yes.
[14:44] <dobey> pitti, cjwatson: ^^ can either of you tell me where ubuntuone-installer is at, and/or what i need to do with it? i can't find it in the queue :-/
[14:45] <ev> do we have a general practice for handling pipeline failures in dash scripts? I've tried something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/666566 , but it doesn't appear to be valid POSIX (works well enough in zsh).
[14:46] <ev> err I copied that incorrectly
[14:47] <ev> http://paste.ubuntu.com/666571
[14:51] <cjwatson> ev: it's a pain, but the approach you've taken should be valid POSIX, I think.  What's the error message?
[14:51] <broder> cjwatson: it looks like the ubuntu cds have EFI grub images on them. do you know where are those coming from? i don't see anything enlightening in ubuntu-cdimage or livecd-rootfs
[14:52] <ev> cjwatson: syntax error: "}" unexpected (expecting ")")
[14:53] <cjwatson> broder: debian-installer builds them
[14:53] <cjwatson> ev: try (...) rather than {...; } then?
[14:53] <cjwatson> it might not like { ...; } | ...
[14:54] <cjwatson> actually I think I would take a marginally different tack anyway; let me construct it ...
[14:55] <cjwatson> the 2>&1 is bad
[14:55] <ev> cjwatson: for what it's woth, I did try a subshell
[14:57] <ev> cjwatson: brilliant! Thanks for the spot
[14:58] <cjwatson> s="$( ((grub-mkimage -O i386-pc ${prefix:+--prefix="$prefix"} -c "$tmp/wubildr-bootstrap.cfg" -m "$tmp/wubildr.tar" $modules; echo $? >&3) | cat /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/lnxboot.img - > "$tmp/wubildr") 3>&1)"
[14:58] <cjwatson> [ "$s" = 0 ]
[14:58] <cjwatson> try that, I think it's a bit simpler and seems to work
[14:59] <cjwatson> you might even get away without the outer subshell, not sure
[14:59] <cjwatson> probably not
[14:59] <doko> infinity: if you do a ocaml test rebuild, please could you use the one from  the ubuntu-toolchain PPA?
[15:03] <infinity> doko: I was planning on just re-uploading all the ocaml bits to the archive to take advantage of the current fix... Do we need the linker changes from the PPA as well?
[15:03] <ev> cjwatson: works perfectly, thanks a bunch!
[15:03] <infinity> doko: And if so, why have them in a PPA?
[15:07] <doko> infinity, well, then please merge it with the new version
[15:08] <infinity> doko: Sure, happy to merge it with ocaml/jocaml before I re-transition armel.
[15:20] <dobey> hrmm
[15:21] <dobey> what would be the best thing to override with plain dh (%: dh $@), for running regression tests?
[15:22] <cjwatson> dh_auto_test
[15:26] <dobey> when does that get run?
[15:26] <cjwatson> you can see the ordering if you read /usr/bin/dh and search for @bd
[15:27] <cjwatson> it's immediately after dh_auto_build though, which generally corresponds to 'make' or './setup.py build' or that sort of thing
[15:27] <dobey> ah, after build and before install, ok
[15:28] <tkamppeter> OdyX, upstream of rastertosag-gdi is informed and I have renamed the upstream tarball to have the version number 0.1 as the Debian and Ubuntu packages. See http://forums.linux-foundation.org/read.php?30,13489,14202#msg-14202.
[15:29] <cjwatson> dobey: or, 'dh --no-act binary' shows the complete sequence
[15:29] <cjwatson> assuming a clean build tree
[15:30] <infinity> doko: Is there a reason that patch drops --no-relax?
[15:31] <doko> infinity, does it? and if yes, we don't care about alpha
[15:32] <doko> infinity, join debian, they seem to care about alpha again ;p
[15:33] <infinity> doko: Yeah, I suspect relax/no-relax are probably no-ops on most (all?) of our architectures anyway, but I was just curious if it was dropped intentionally.
[15:35] <dobey> cjwatson: thanks
[15:37] <OdyX> tkamppeter: great.
[15:39] <OdyX> tkamppeter: on my side, I put some thoughts (and code) on a pkg-printing-tools package that would feature a dh_cupsppdupdate to externalize the big postinst redundancy + eventually a dh_pyppd that would feature automatisation around pyppd + automated depends.
[15:41] <tkamppeter> OdyX, great, then this could all be reduced to a single line.
[15:42] <OdyX> … and reduced disk-space footprint, failure possibilities.
[15:44] <infinity> doko: Oh, I was misreading the patch, didn't realise it was just passing no-relax on alpha.  Derp.  I'm only on my first coffee. ;)
[15:44] <infinity> doko: Will merge, test, and upload today.
[15:45] <jono> hi all
[15:46] <jono> who is maintaining couchdb in Ubuntu?
[15:46] <jono> well, specifically, desktopcouch?
[15:50] <davmor2> jono the u1 team might be able to point you in the right direction
[15:51] <beuno> jono talk to dobey, he'll probably be the person, or know the person
[15:51] <Laney> all of the recent uploads are by chad miller
[15:54] <jono> thanks beuno
[15:55] <jono> dobey, hi!
[15:55] <jono> :-)
[15:55] <jono> dobey, have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunderbird/+bug/825280 ?
[15:55] <tkamppeter> mterry, kees, the upstream of colord, Richard Hughes, has answered on bug 823185.
[15:59] <SpamapS> cjwatson: Thank you! Yes.. collectd is a pretty ambitious union of just about every library that ever existed on servers... ;)
[16:13] <RoAkSoAx> rsalveti: ping
[16:13] <rsalveti> RoAkSoAx: pong
[16:13] <RoAkSoAx> rsalveti: howdy!! I was wondering what's the status of PXE on pandaboards?
[16:13] <rsalveti> RoAkSoAx: working nicely with the packages available at oneiric already ;-)
[16:14] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: did you follow the email i sent a few weeks ago?
[16:14] <Daviey> (Hi btw)
[16:14] <rsalveti> RoAkSoAx: http://rsalveti.wordpress.com/2011/07/11/net-booting-with-tftp-and-pxe-with-pandaboard/
[16:14] <RoAkSoAx> rsalveti: awesome thne!! gonna try to pxe now!
[16:14] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: howdy!! what email?
[16:14] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: ^^ I emailed that link.
[16:15] <Daviey> in response to zul's mail.
[16:15] <RoAkSoAx> rsalveti: cool, yeah I saw your blogpost was just wondering if all made it to oneiric, which already did
[16:15] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: ah yes... I already saw that... but didn't have the required cables/power supply till last week and I was in Austin  :)
[16:15] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: how did things turn out in London btw?
[16:16] <rsalveti> RoAkSoAx: mahmoh is our official u-boot pxe user on panda :-)
[16:16] <mahmoh> RoAkSoAx: hi
[16:16] <RoAkSoAx> rsalveti: k thanks ;)
[16:16] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: Pretty good.. i have a draft mail.
[16:16] <rsalveti> he's being using it with the server image for quite a while
[16:16] <rsalveti> RoAkSoAx: np, let me know if you find any weird bug ;-)
[16:17] <mahmoh> so what's up?
[16:17] <RoAkSoAx> mahmoh: howdy!! any recommendations? I'm gonna start playing with it to add the support to cobbler
[16:17]  * mahmoh was hoping to talk about kernels
[16:18] <mahmoh> RoAkSoAx: awesome.  There's a minor bugs in it now that require config caveats
[16:18] <mahmoh> RoAkSoAx: what hardware are you using it with?
[16:18] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: cool!! I look forward to it.
[16:18] <RoAkSoAx> mahmoh: as in SD card, or as in pandaboard?
[16:19] <mahmoh> RoAkSoAx: sounds like pandaboard
[16:19] <RoAkSoAx> mahmoh: heh yeah pandaboard
[16:20] <mahmoh> RoAkSoAx: hm, I can give you a list of bugs I'm tracking that may affect you
[16:21] <Daviey> mahmoh: Ooo, list of bugs most appreciated
[16:21] <RoAkSoAx> mahmoh: sure, that would be helpful
[16:24] <mahmoh> lp bugs: 820124, 808815, 820113,820116, 820121, 820122, 820124- these may affect you
[16:25] <mahmoh> bug 820122 and bug 820124 ? ubottu?
[16:26] <mahmoh> I think I just found a bug in ubottu
[16:26] <mahmoh> RoAkSoAx: ^^^^^
[16:26] <RoAkSoAx> mahmoh: cool! thanks!
[16:27] <mahmoh> RoAkSoAx: if you find any new problems feel free to add them in and ping me or GrueMaster
[16:27] <RoAkSoAx> mahmoh: will do!1 thanks for the info!
[16:28] <mahmoh> RoAkSoAx: speaking of which, is there a unit test or suite for puppet?  /me wonders if we should be using something like that soon to help regression testing
[16:28] <RoAkSoAx> mahmoh: not that I know of
[16:28] <mahmoh> RoAkSoAx: I'm usually on ubuntu-arm or ubuntu-server
[16:29] <mahmoh> RoAkSoAx: well, if you want to collaborate on that at some point let me know, I'd have to take a look at the bugs that have sprung up over the years
[16:31] <mahmoh> did I say puppet?  I meant cobbler.  I need to stop multitasking
[16:31] <RoAkSoAx> mahmoh: cool ;)
[16:31] <RoAkSoAx> mahmoh: and not there's no unit tests
[16:32] <mahmoh> RoAkSoAx: as long as there's no bugs in it we're fine ;)
[16:32]  * Daviey writes bug free softwares.
[16:32] <mahmoh> RoAkSoAx: let me know if you have questions
[16:33] <nigelb> Daviey: *cough* I have some of the code you wrote to prove that wrong :P
[16:33] <mahmoh> bug free = feature rich
[16:33] <Daviey> :D
[16:33] <mahmoh> those were easter eggs for you to find
[16:34] <Daviey> nigelb: show me the unit test proving otherwise.. kkthnx
[16:34] <nigelb> Daviey: hah
[16:35] <RoAkSoAx> rsalveti: mahmoh this might sound dumb, but do I still need to create a partition in the SD card and place the MLO and u-boot.bin or not anymore?
[16:35] <mahmoh> RoAkSoAx: yes
[16:35] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: Are you asking when will there be native PXE support on ARM platforms?
[16:36] <RoAkSoAx> mahmoh: cool, just double checking ;)
[16:36] <mahmoh> RoAkSoAx: for that stock board you still need to boot MLO and u-boot off of the SD/MMC
[16:36] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: was just wondering :)
[16:36] <RoAkSoAx> mahmoh: ok cool
[16:36] <mahmoh> RoAkSoAx: from there you can pxe boot and/or install/boot from a usb-sata disk (powered is ideal)
[16:36] <rsalveti> RoAkSoAx: that depends from board to board
[16:37] <rsalveti> panda needs MLO and u-boot
[16:37] <rsalveti> you can have that at your sd card or load it from usb, using omap4boot
[16:37] <rsalveti> but then you'll need to do that on every reboot
[16:37] <rsalveti> sd card should be a good start :-)
[16:38] <RoAkSoAx> rsalveti: mahmoh awesome then! thanks
[16:38]  * mahmoh forgot about omap4boot
[16:46] <smoser> does this pastebin mean anything to anyone : http://paste.ubuntu.com/666645/
[16:47] <smoser> i just uploaded a new euca2ools, with minimal changes, but when i try to install i get that
[16:47] <smoser> python install error about /usr/share/pyshared/euca2ools-2.0.egg-info/PKG-INFO.dpkg-new
[16:48] <cjwatson> smoser: possibly symlink changed to directory or vice versa; dpkg won't do that itself, you have to clean up the old one in a preinst
[16:48] <cjwatson> this may have changed due to python helper changes
[16:50] <smoser> thanks. i'll dig a bit. i'd think this would be larger than just euca2ools, though. i wouldn't think it is doing anything special here.
[16:52] <dobey> jono: i have not. maybe rodrigo or chrisccoulson have?
[16:53] <chrisccoulson> heh, it's not me ;)
[16:53] <chrisccoulson> rodrigo is probably your best bet though
[17:01] <cjwatson> smoser: yes, I recognised the problem because I've heard of it before, although I can't find a reference
[17:01] <cjwatson> smoser: I don't know if there's a general solution beyond the (AIUI) small number of affected packages handling it explicitly
[17:02] <smoser> cjwatson, ok.. it seems fairly new, though, as the last upload did not fail this way and occurred last thursday.
[17:02] <cjwatson> you probably want barry for more than drive-by help
[17:30] <smoser> yeah, barry ^ does that ring any bells ?
[17:55] <dobey> can i get a couple of quick sponsorships to fix some FTBFS in oneiric?
[17:55] <barry> smoser: it does ring a bell, but i can't place it.  there was another package that had a similar issue i think, but we decided not to worry about it because it only affected updates within oneiric alphas.
[18:26] <jjardon> Hi, my Ubuntu session doesnt work anymore. Seems that compiz is crashing after login. Known bug?
[18:27] <jjardon> Ubuntu 2D works without problems
[18:30] <sladen> jjardon: the right people might not be around.  http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug
[18:31] <jjardon> FYI, I'm using Oneiric
[18:31] <jjardon> sladen: thanks
[18:31] <jjardon> sladen: I know that link ;)
[19:14] <dobey> mterry: i choose you!
[19:15] <mterry> dobey, you have to catch me first
[19:15] <dobey> mterry: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntu/oneiric/couchdb-glib/fix-824666/+merge/71592 and https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntu/oneiric/evolution-couchdb/fix-824669/+merge/71593
[19:15] <dobey> simple FTBFS fixes
[19:17] <mterry> dobey, looking
[19:30] <mterry> dobey, both pushed, thanks!
[19:31] <dobey> thanks fore review
[19:31] <dobey> now if i can figure out what happened to my other NEW upload
[19:47] <ion> Yay, dmz-cursor-theme was added back.
[19:53] <dobey> kees: ping?
[19:54] <kees> dobey: hi!
[19:54] <kees> dobey: I ran out time last week, sorry about that. :(
[19:54] <dobey> kees: ok, what's the status on ubuntuone-installer, and what do i need to do?
[19:56] <kees> dobey: hrm, now I can't find the bug for it.
[19:56] <dobey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/817133
[19:56] <kees> ah-ha, thanks.
[19:58] <kees> dobey: okay, so, I'm not sure I understand one part -- __get_series() seems like it should at least return "oneiric" right now.
[19:58] <kees> from there, I can upload it at least.
[19:58] <dobey> do i need an FFE for it now though?
[19:59] <kees> dobey: yes, though nothing depends on it, so it should be easy to do.
[20:00] <kees> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#FeatureFreeze_for_new_packages
[20:01] <dobey> ok, thanks
[20:33] <kenvandine> Ursinha, i took a pass at creating a package for unity-launcher-editor
[20:37] <dobey> kees: ok, just attached new .dsc/.debian.tar.gz to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/817133 and I also had to override dh_auto_install to use xvfb-run as well it seems. but there it is :)
[21:59] <ScottK> kees: I didn't flip 817133 back to incomplete to avoid a reversion war, but (see my comment in the bug) I definitely think it's premature to consider an FFe right now.
[22:01] <kees> ScottK: fair enough, thanks.
[22:37] <slangasek> ScottK: the new python-sip seems to break the build of python-qt4; there's a patch (debian/patches/siputils_debian_changes.diff) that short-circuits queries for the library names to link against, which means build-time tests attempt to compile programs without linking to Qt at all...
[22:38] <ScottK> Hmmm.
[22:38] <ScottK> That patch isn't new (IIRC).
[22:38] <slangasek> yep - I guess the upstream behavior changed out from underneath the patch though
[22:39] <ScottK> Also the API version didn't change so it's allegedly compatible.
[22:39] <ScottK> Urgh.
[22:41] <ScottK> The second hunk of the patch bypasses it entirely.
[22:41] <ScottK> I think what's changed us --no-add-needed.
[22:41] <ScottK> slangasek: I'm on a $WORK deadline this evening, so I can't promise when I can look at it.
[22:42] <ScottK> Unfortunately Torsten Marek is not very active recently.
[22:42] <slangasek> ScottK: it's not --no-add-needed - it's spitting out rules that attempt to compile without linking to *any* Qt libs (even -lQtCore for the first test)
[22:43] <slangasek> $WORK deadline - understood; just wanted to bring it to your attention
[22:43] <ScottK> OK.
[22:43] <ScottK> debfx: ^^^ Maybe you can look?
[23:10] <hallyn> SpamapS: around?
[23:15] <SpamapS> hallyn: here now, sup?
[23:16] <hallyn> SpamapS: i uploaded a libvirt to lucid-proposed earlier today,
[23:16] <hallyn> but i want to mix in another triival sru
[23:16] <hallyn> woudl you mind kicking the one that's there now and i'll re-upload?
[23:16] <hallyn> (the other is a text comment added to /etc/default/libvirr-bin)
[23:16] <SpamapS> hallyn: preparing to kick..
[23:17] <SpamapS> hallyn: kicking..
[23:17] <hallyn> thank you SIR may i have anOTHER
[23:17] <SpamapS> hallyn: kicked!
[23:24]  * infinity is mildly distubed by the above exchange.
[23:24] <hallyn> dpamthnks!
[23:24] <hallyn> uh.  hm
[23:24] <hallyn> SpamapS: thanks!
[23:24] <hallyn> new versions pushed
[23:25] <hallyn> SpamapS: so regarding upstart jobs reading from /etc/default...
[23:25] <hallyn> am i remembering right that we will want to stop that when override files are supported?
[23:25] <hallyn> or is there something else it's waiting on?
[23:27] <SpamapS> hallyn: Its waiting on me doing some tests to actually measure if it slows down the boot.
[23:28] <hallyn> ok
[23:28] <SpamapS> hallyn: override files have been available since the early alphas of 11.04
[23:28] <hallyn> orly
[23:29] <SpamapS> hallyn: I say if the original package used /etc/default, we're going to have to keep reading it anyway, so only worry about services that have never had a /etc/default file
[23:30] <hallyn> hm, ok
[23:31] <hallyn> i guess the really fast-booting netbooks wont' have libvirt anyway :)