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dholbachgood morning07:06
philipballewGood morning dholbach07:12
dholbachhi philipballew07:13
philipballewgood day in your neck of the woods I hope07:13
dholbachI'm sure it will be :)07:17
philipballewMost excellent!07:21
pibaraI'm not quite sure what to do with respect to getting a library I wrote into universe. I've added a script for generating a proper deb package (for amd64) from the source tree, and probably could do the same for other architectures (to what I don't have access). Should I look for an existing universe maintainer willing to add my package to universe, or go trough the mentor thingy to become one myself? I would prefer the first, but not sure if this is possible,07:32
pibaraAnyone who could advice me on that? Do I look for a universe maintainer (if so where do I find one), or do I need to go trough the mentor mill to become one myself?07:37
pibaraFor some more context, its a C++ JSON parsing library build on top of the GLIB JSON C library.07:42
micahgpibara: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages07:56
pibaramicahg: tnx08:17
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hakermaniatumbleweed: some time you suggested me to work on other projects too, while you'll be looking on mine, or something like that. Were you reffering to bug fixes?09:38
tumbleweedhakermania: I mean if you are hanging around in #ubuntu-motu, you could help out with Ubuntu :) see the links in the topic09:39
hakermaniatumbleweed, would love to09:42
jtayloris this supposed to throw an exception in python2.7? import locale; locale.normalize(u"en_US")10:49
jtaylorit works without unicode10:49
tumbleweedjtaylor: works on debian11:45
Picijtaylor: works on Ubuntu (Natty) as well.11:47
jtayloro_O11:47
jtaylordoes not work in my unstable chroot11:48
tumbleweedah, this was on testing, you're right re unstable11:50
jtaylorits a python 2.7.2 regression then11:50
jtaylorintroduced by this patch: http://bugs.python.org/issue181311:51
tumbleweedthat looks about right11:53
tumbleweedso, what does it break?11:54
jtaylorplayonlinux and aptdaemon11:54
jtaylorthe latter was fixed11:54
jtayloror worked around11:54
jtaylorformer patch submitted to debian11:54
jtaylorbut it will break a lot of wx code11:55
jtaylorwx.Locale.GetCanonicalName returns unicode11:55
tumbleweed:/11:56
jtaylorreported upstream http://bugs.python.org/issue1275211:59
jtaylorShould I report it against python package too?12:08
jtaylorand put all bugs duplicate against it12:08
jtaylorfound 3 already12:08
systemclientgiven that my package was accepted into debian unstable, what do I have to do to get it into ubuntu?12:09
tumbleweedjtaylor: yes (against python2.7),  it sounds like we should do something in Debian/Ubuntu about it.12:10
tumbleweedsystemclient: we're in feature freeze, so file a sync request witha feature freeze exception12:10
systemclienttumbleweed: or wait till 12.04?12:10
tumbleweedsystemclient: you can do that too. But, we are only a few days into feature freeze. if it's a leaf package you'd like to see in oneiric, you can file a request12:11
systemclienttumbleweed: what is a leaf package? Nothing depends on it?12:12
tumbleweedyes12:12
systemclientthat is the case … I'll look into sync requests tonight then12:13
systemclientthank you!12:13
jtaylorcan someone set it to triaged? maybe also set importance: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python2.7/+bug/82473412:20
ubottuUbuntu bug 824734 in python2.7 (Ubuntu) "locale.normalize does not accept unicode: TypeError in normalize(): character mapping must return integer, None or unicode" [Undecided,Confirmed]12:20
Laneyjtaylor: please get bug control ;-)12:21
Laneywhat importance would you set?12:21
jtayloras it affects some core components (update-manage) I#d say high12:22
paultagYeah, I agree12:22
paultagit breaks unrelated software. Setting now12:22
Laneyjust testing12:23
paultagjtaylor: all set. Thanks for picking that one out :)12:23
nigelbjtaylor: I'd +1 Laney's suggestion. Please get bug control or alternatively MOTU :)12:23
Laneybug control should be much quicker12:24
Laneyno reason to not get it based on some other pending application12:24
paultagyar, -bugs is fairly active12:24
paultaghonestly I thought this was bugs until I checked12:24
nigelbheh12:24
jtaylorsent an application for bug control13:43
nigelbstuck in moderation, should come in, in a few13:46
jtaylorsomeone here a member of debian-gnome and can sponsor meld(exp)?14:26
jtaylorit ould allow fixing a bunch of ugly meld bugs in natty14:26
Laneyhave you pinged in there?14:27
jtaylorthe debian maintainer did a couple fo times already14:27
Laneyok14:29
Laneyi'll do it later14:29
jtaylorgreat thanks14:29
hggdhjtaylor: OK. You got the first +1 on -control ;-)15:58
micahgjtaylor: BTW, dev membership includes bug control :)16:36
tumbleweedso apply already17:07
Laneyhow can I tell svn-bp that I have an orig.tar.xz?17:10
jtaylorby patching it17:10
jtaylormeld was uploaded already17:10
jtaylorit wasn't you?17:10
Laneyno17:11
Laneysomeone did it?17:11
jtayloryes short while ago17:11
Laneyfair17:12
Laneystill, it needs patching to do that?17:12
Laneywhat a hunk17:12
jtaylorits easier to fix than pristine-tar needed for git-bp :/17:12
Laneypristine-tar: committed meld_1.5.2.orig.tar.xz.delta to branch pristine-tar17:14
Laneyseems like the delta is the entire file17:14
Laneyworks though17:15
tumbleweedhrm, I notice ubuntu-sponsoring no longer things MOTUs can upload to universe18:27
tumbleweedthinks18:27
tumbleweedLaney: I wonder if that was due to going anonymous18:27
micahgtumbleweed: what do you mean?18:33
tumbleweedmicahg: bold vs italic on the sponsorship overview18:33
micahgah, yes, I noticed that18:34
Laneytumbleweed: why would it?18:42
Laneysounds like an api bug if so18:42
Laneycan you run the method manually18:42
Laney?18:42
* Laney is cooking ATM, then DMB — sorry18:42
Laneyit was a fairly uninvolved change from my side :P18:43
geserLaney: thanks for the reminder18:43
Laneyheh heh18:47
* Laney hopes maco and persia can make it too18:47
paultagI thought maco steped down from the DMB18:47
paultagthought I got an email about that18:47
geserpaultag: she is18:48
tumbleweedLaney: yeah I should look at it properly too. I remember the api call being horrible (you determine True or false by whether you get an exception or not): P18:48
geserpaultag: we hope she will be available till the vote for her replacement18:49
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paultaggeser: ah, right. CoC and all that18:49
Laneytumbleweed: actually I remember somethign weird about that call18:51
Laneyperhaps it wasn't a function of the launchpad object?18:52
tumbleweedactually maybe that was the call as me. after supper...18:52
gesertumbleweed: it might be really that anon is not enough. If I did my quick api test correctly then distribution.main_archive.getPermissionsForPerson(person=person) returns an empty list which results in False for person_can_upload (assuming that the first part of function doesn't return anything)18:58
Laneywhy would that be?18:59
geserI didn't check each call of the function but IIRC the second part was needed too (I asked about it in the past when writing a similar function for requestsync)19:05
tumbleweedgeser: this sounds like a bug in launchpad19:06
tumbleweedyeah I see the empty list vs populated list when logged in19:06
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paultagHey MOTU19:39
paultagdoes anyone remember what we did after warty warthog when the release name+1 was < then the stable release?19:39
paultagwas there a massive debian-local version bump and rebuild or what?19:40
paultage.g. package-1.0~warty1 > package-1.0~dapper119:41
* tumbleweed wasn't an ubuntu-user in those days, but was it such a big issue? Was the release name in many package versions?19:41
LaneyI can only think of backports, and I'm not sure if that existed then19:42
tumbleweedwell, people could use a release name in SRU versions too19:42
ScottKIt was not part of the archive.  It was on sourceforge.19:42
paultagright19:42
ScottK(project is still there if you're interested in historical artifacts)19:42
paultagScottK: do you seem to remember what was done for when this happend, or what the plan is post Zadjective Zanimal ?19:43
ScottKpaultag: It was before my time (I started with Dapper).19:43
paultagAh, I need someone from badger-era :)19:44
paultaghumm. I'm betting good money Debian has to deal with this after wheezy19:44
paultagthey append the version ID to migrations, I think19:44
paultagOh wait, SRUs, right19:45
micahgwell, they use versions in backports usually, not codenames19:45
tumbleweedpaultag: even then it won't affect that many packages19:45
tumbleweedmicahg: +squeeze1 is common for SPU (SRU in debian)19:45
paultagtumbleweed: well the changes would be pushed to unstable as well with a bump19:45
paultageven if it's a NMU it should work OK19:45
micahgtumbleweed: yes, but that packages is usually superceded in testing19:46
tumbleweedmicahg: yes, and it'll only be an issue if it isn't19:46
micahgI would expect the stable release team in Debian to prevent such things from occuring :)19:47
tumbleweedyou'll never have copy-up from spu to testing or tpu to unstable. The only way it could happen is if something was tpu-ed and never migrated from unstable again until the next release. not going to happen :)19:53
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* tumbleweed can't remember why I've got a netatalk beta in my ppa, but it seems to generate lots of e-mail from people to me, wanting new releases22:03
tumbleweedclearly they can't read the "This PPA is my personal play-ground, and full of weeds. Don't expect anything to not break your system or to still be here tomorrow."22:03
ajmitchit's not one of those things that you expect people to still be using these days22:03
Laneygoogle for "$software ppa", add first result, ???, profit22:04
Laneysecond result in this instance (after the ubuntu +source page)22:04
tumbleweedLaney: hrm, that's probably it22:05
tumbleweedoh well I'll do a new upload then. /me pleases the anonymous masses22:05
Laneyyeah, having (some) PPAs not be indexed by search engines would be good22:05
ajmitchI see that oneiric at least has a recent release of it22:06
tumbleweedapparently there's a 2.2 final release out22:06
ajmitchreleased only ~3 weeks ago, too22:07
ajmitchI didn't know anyone still cared about AFP22:07
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Laneytumbleweed: there's a backport request for 2.2 final too23:19
Laneyfancy it? :-)23:19
broderhaha, i was just looking at that bug23:20
tumbleweedLaney: we'd have to get it into oneiric first23:20
tumbleweedbroder: I was just about to ask you to review it :)23:20
tumbleweedbroder: (err ubuntu-be--tools if that's what you were asking about)23:20
Laneyyep23:20
Laneyand before that, sid — right? :P23:21
brodertumbleweed: wait, huh? i was referring to the backport request23:21
tumbleweedLaney: ok, I got it to build with the addition of a patch called "compile-dammit"23:21
tumbleweedbroder: I just fixed the backportpackage local dsc bug23:21
tumbleweedwell, discovered I'd fixed it during debconf23:21
brodertumbleweed: +123:21
broderi'll take a look23:22
tumbleweedLaney: so, sure, I'll give jonas my patches (which are all upstream bugs), and remind him that he has desparate users23:22
Laneyexcellent23:23
brodertumbleweed: where's the patch?23:26
brodertumbleweed: nvm, found it23:28
tumbleweedbroder: ok, I'll merge it and upload to Debian23:35
tumbleweedLaney: aha "I found a link to your ubuntu repository on the ubuntu forum about Time Machine Backup with lion." That kind of thing gives google hints :)23:46

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