[00:11] <snail> sunshine in kelburn, but big black clouds to the south
[00:13] <chilts> it's a pretty random day, cold, snow, sun, snow, sun etc :)
[01:02] <snail> i'm seeing network issues accessing the rest of the internet. i'm thinking that people are clearing the snow of their rooves
[01:06] <snail> and it's snowing again
[01:07] <ibeardslee> there are signs of much network boo-boo about atm
[01:12] <ajmitch> ibeardslee: so it's not just dunedin? :)
[01:13]  * ajmitch lost connectivity at home from about 12:30, modem is stuck on trying to reauthenticate
[01:13] <ajmitch> local shop didn't have eftpos working
[01:17] <chrismsnz> anybody have a hosting company they recommend for hosting a small asp.net site?
[01:44] <ibeardslee> I recommend Rimuhosting .. I would assume the can do asp.net stuff
[01:45] <chrismsnz> I've been here before - i was looking at their vps offering
[01:46] <chrismsnz> a little while ago
[01:46] <chrismsnz> can't see anything to do with asp but i'll send them an email
[01:46] <ojwb> my ADSL was out for a while
[01:47] <ojwb> (hutt valley)
[01:51] <ajmitch> seems that it was a telecom fault
[02:27] <chrismsnz> snowing in the auckland cbd lol
[02:28] <chrismsnz> http://tsai.net.nz/fun06/P8150040.jpg mt albert
[02:49] <hads> Anyone need a USB DVB-T tuner that half works? https://nicegear.co.nz/dvb-cards/technotrend-t1900-usb/
[02:51] <ibeardslee> nope
[02:52] <ibeardslee> would be interested if I knew it worked with linux, and knew that my netbook cpu & ram could handle it
[02:56] <ibeardslee> I've tried a couple of them .. not sure if it is ..
[02:56] <ibeardslee> 1/ don't deal with linux very well
[02:56] <ibeardslee> 2/ don't deal with my CPU, RAM video very well
[02:57] <ibeardslee> 3/ Shite reception
[03:17] <ajmitch> hads: how does it half work?
[03:18] <ojwb> sounds like SD but not HD
[03:19] <ojwb> which might be OK for a second tuner, but would irritate if it's the only one your have
[03:22] <ajmitch> depends on how much you care about tv
[03:26] <ojwb> well, if you care enough to buy a tuner...
[03:53] <hads> ibeardslee: Everything we sell is tested with Linux
[03:54] <hads> ajmitch: Yeah, what ojwb said. It won't record HD so you can't record TV1, 2 & 3. Good for someone who wants to test, rip EPG etc.
[03:54] <hads> Not good for real use.
[03:59] <ojwb> 3+1 appears to be all SD though, at least currently
[04:13] <hads> Yeah, even though the individual programs are marked SD/HD, they broadcast the entire channel in either HD or SD and upscale/downscale to suit.
[04:17] <ajmitch> so it wouldn't be useful for the usual channels?
[04:26] <ojwb> ajmitch: you couldn't get TV1 or TV2 at all with it
[04:28] <ajmitch> not so tempting a buy then :)
[04:28] <ojwb> i'd guess all the mainstream channels will be HD eventually (perhaps once analog gets switched off, if that spectrum hasn't just been flogged to mobile phone companies)
[04:30]  * ajmitch wonders if tv will be broadcast over the fibre network to homes in coming years
[04:34] <ojwb> probably
[04:35] <ajmitch> some ISPs already do some bundles with iSky
[04:35] <hads> ajmitch: Not super useful no, but cheap :)
[04:38] <Hoggs> All the major TV studios all transmit their live feeds to each other over fibre
[04:38] <Hoggs> the super clean HD feeds
[19:44] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:12] <ajmitch> morning
[21:12] <chilts> morning
[21:26] <chrismsnz> morning
[21:29] <chilts> I have my coat on in work again
[21:29] <mwhudson> :)
[21:29] <mwhudson> it's actually fairly warm here
[21:29] <chilts> how's bizdojo, warm enough?
[21:29] <chilts> right
[21:29] <mwhudson> chilts: yes
[21:29] <mwhudson> chilts: had they had the heatpumps put in when you came around?
[21:29] <chilts> that lady never did send me back info about a day a week thing
[21:29] <chilts> dunno
[21:29] <mwhudson> oh
[21:29] <mwhudson> i'll poke her then
[21:29] <chilts> I'll ping her sometime
[21:29] <chilts> nah, no worries
[21:30] <mwhudson> okidoke
[21:30] <chilts> I'll send her an email .. prolly won't want something for a month or so anyway and then it might change again :)
[21:30] <mwhudson> heh yes, don'
[21:30] <mwhudson> heh yes, don't want to over-plan i guess
[21:30] <chilts> yeah, was certainly curious at the time though :)
[21:31] <chilts> in other news, has anyone used Go(Lang) much?
[21:31] <chilts> I've been hacking some stuff together over the past wee while and am really enjoying it :)
[21:31] <mwhudson> there are a couple of people at canonical who are pretty keen on it
[21:31] <chrismsnz> I had a little romp with it
[21:31] <chilts> yeah, been chatting to Gustavo - to add some more AWS services to his goamz library
[21:31] <mwhudson> it does seem pretty interesting from afar
[21:31] <chilts> I gave him a small patch yesterday
[21:31] <mwhudson> chilts: ah, yes, i mostly meant him :-)
[21:32] <chilts> heh
[21:32] <chrismsnz> I'm mostly a pythonista (although PHP by trade), but I like go :)
[21:32] <chilts> it's certainly interesting - between that and NodeJS I'm having a right ball playing with concurrency/event driven stuff
[21:32] <chilts> anyone interested in a Go User Group in Wgtn?
[21:32]  * chilts is thinking of starting one
[21:33] <mwhudson> interested in principle, i guess :)
[21:34] <chilts> ok, 1 maybe then ... I'll be asking other people too and will probably post to the various other user groups when I know I have something :)
[21:34] <chilts> am just thinking about general numbers, not specifics, so I won't hold you to it
[22:15] <ojwb> morning
[22:16] <Atamira> morning
[23:01] <chilts> hey guys, any other language specific user groups in Wellington I should tap-up for interest in a Go User Group - I have Wgtn.pm and NZPUG for now
[23:01] <chilts> I think there is a PHP one somewhere
[23:02] <chilts> maybe WellyLUG too
[23:03] <timClicks> can some .deb util do this? https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm/wiki/ConvertingPython
[23:07] <ajmitch> python-stdeb
[23:08] <ajmitch> timClicks: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/stdeb has some good info about using it
[23:08] <timClicks> ajmitch: jolly good, ta
[23:15] <ojwb> chilts: there's the functional programming group too
[23:16] <chilts> ah yeah, I was trying to remember that but forgot it's name - for some reason I was thinking they called themselves the 'strange languages' group or something :)
[23:16] <chilts> thanks
[23:16] <ojwb> it used to be something like "erlounge"
[23:16] <ojwb> but an erlang group was too narrow I guess
[23:18] <chilts> right, yeah
[23:18]  * ojwb is interested in go, but then I'm interested in most things
[23:19] <chilts> yeah, same
[23:19] <chilts> though I think this one will stick (along with NodeJS) :)
[23:19] <ojwb> I think the approach to concurrency is very interesting
[23:22] <chilts> ojwb: for Go or Node?
[23:22] <ojwb> Go
[23:23] <chilts> I certainly like how the chans work, with all the message passing
[23:28] <ojwb> yes, it seems to neatly address some of the problematic issues with threads
[23:30] <chilts> yeah
[23:31] <chilts> I've read a few other libraries too (like the memcache one) and it's so small that you can learn a little something each time :)
[23:31] <chilts> I find it very enjoyable
[23:31] <chilts> and it kinda suits my way of thinking - but then so does node and they're very different, but both really cool
[23:32] <chilts> I refactored my queue thing in Node last week ... with more features to come: https://github.com/appsattic/sensi
[23:32] <chilts> (just a learning thing)