[00:26] <rww> PerfieM: hi
[00:26] <PerfieM> rww: just the kid I was looking for
[00:26] <rww> That doesn't bode well. What can I do you for?
[00:27] <PerfieM> what's my chances of getting unbanned from those 2 channels?
[00:27] <rww> Which two? I know of three.
[00:28] <rww> if you mean the two core channels... #ubuntu I'd need to check the bantracker and I can't do that right now, #ubuntu-offtopic we could probably do
[00:30] <rww> although I'm going afk for an hour or so and I prefer to supervise people I've just unbanned, so funkyHat or gord might be better to work on that with
[00:31] <gord> its half one, i'm not here
[00:31] <rww> oh yeah, huh.
[00:31] <PerfieM> rww: its okay, you can keep the ban on for now
[00:32] <funkyHat> I currently don't have access to the bantracker, so I can't really help either
[00:33] <PerfieM> lol
[00:33] <PerfieM> useless
[00:33] <rww> PerfieM: alrighty, drop by in an hour or so if you want me to take a look today, otherwise come back tomorrow. I'm probably going to clean up -ot's banlist tonight anyway, so...
[00:34] <PerfieM> rww: aiight dog
[01:35]  * rww grabs soda and the OT banlist
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> rww: I'm reasonably certain that any of mine in there can come off.
[01:38] <rww> so how many decades has it been since Pici had a bot in there?
[01:38] <tonyyarusso> at least if they lack comments
[01:41] <Pici> rww: if its a ban/quiet for my bot, feel free to remove it
[01:41] <rww> already did. curious: what did it do?
[01:41] <tonyyarusso> I don't even remember which bot this was.
[01:41] <Pici> I forget.
[01:41] <rww> lol
[01:41] <Pici> I think it was the first bantracker prototype.
[01:41] <rww> tonyyarusso: it was named nyx, if that helps
[01:42] <tonyyarusso> no idea
[01:42] <rww> also, for those of you who had doubts, I /do/ leave bans active sometimes. like this incog one O____O
[02:41] <funkyHat> @btlogin
[02:41]  * funkyHat stomps on ubottu 
[02:46] <rww> heh, looks like we missed one of ryaxnb's bans during his last unban. I think that might be the longest undetected case of ban-evasion I've seen yet :P
[02:48] <Flannel> it was inadvertant on our part as well, sounds like
[02:52] <elky> Can we just enforce it anyway?
[02:54] <rww> man, I say stuff like that and the complaints don't stop for minutes ;(
[02:54] <elky> Heh
[02:55] <elky> possibly you need to choose a better time of day to say such stuff
[02:59] <rww> #ubuntu-offtopic's banlist is a living testament to the ineffectiveness of ban evasion prevention ;(
[03:00] <rww> which one is blockcold? jungli?
[03:00] <bazhang> yes
[03:05] <rww> !away > joshlegs-awayish
 ya y wont ubuntu start up an  a 24 core computer
[03:47] <bazhang> that had to cost a pretty penny
[03:47] <rww> i wonder if all the cores have ever been used at once
[03:48] <tonyyarusso> No, b/c he can't boot :P
[03:48] <Flannel> I only use 32 bit cores; each core does one bit of processing!
[09:22] <popey> @btlogin
[11:55] <Pici> tis a bit crazy in there.
[11:55] <Myrtti> indeed
[12:25] <ikonia> rww: if you're doing a clean up on -ot all my -ot bans can be removed, if you're scripting it. if not I'll do it myself
[12:59] <Pici> o_____O
[13:13] <dasdssffa> hello pici why banned
[13:14] <Pici> dasdssffa: Because you were just banned when you were using the webchat.
[13:14] <Pici> And yet you changed your IP address to return.
[13:14] <dasdssffa> okay but why
[13:14] <dasdssffa> i often said that i do not want classic
[13:14] <dasdssffa> but everybody tells me classic
[13:14] <Pici> Because you continue to ask the same questions over and over and over and over..
[13:14] <ikonia> Pici: lars knows what he's doing, just remove him from this channel, it's a pointless conversation
[13:15] <dasdssffa> no
[13:15] <dasdssffa> Pici: i do not asked something again
[13:15] <dasdssffa> Pici i asked if i can use 10.10
[13:15] <Pici> yes, use 10.10 if you want. No one cares which release you use.
[13:15] <dasdssffa> no it cares somebody
[13:15] <dasdssffa> overall i ask they tell me, szupport ends for 10.10 cant help you now
[13:16] <dasdssffa> it was with 9.04 this way, with 9.10 andi t will be with 10.10
[13:16] <tsimpson> each non-LTS release is supported for 18 months
[13:17] <dasdssffa> yes so my question was does it rent to use 10.10, but all told me nooooooclassic do not ask again blabalbla
[13:19] <dasdssffa> but i guess, as always, you stick with your openion, me with mine and i will not unbanned
[13:19] <dasdssffa> so iam going tpo leave
[13:19] <dasdssffa> this channel now
[13:19] <knome> bye
[13:19] <dasdssffa> okay
[13:19] <topyli> dasdssffa: please note that evading bans is against freenode policy, we can't really help you if you're removed from the entire network
[13:19] <dasdssffa> y
[13:20] <[THC]AcidRain> man when will i be unban?
[13:21] <[THC]AcidRain> this is some bullshit
[13:21] <[THC]AcidRain> its been like 2 weeks. hell i learned my lesson
[13:21] <[THC]AcidRain> feels like 2 yrs rly
[13:22] <[THC]AcidRain> i will never say the word "hax" again in #ubuntu
[13:22] <[THC]AcidRain> i dont even know what the charge of my banishment was
[13:22] <usr13> I don't suppose there is any good way to find out for sure, but what is a good proceedure to use when you suspect you are trying to help someone that claims to be using Ubuntu, but you're pretty sure he's not?
[13:22] <[THC]AcidRain> i forgot its been so long
[13:22] <ikonia> usr13: depends on a lot of things
[13:23] <ikonia> usr13: give us a moment and we'll be with you
[13:23] <usr13> Yea, that's what I thought
[13:23] <bazhang> [THC]AcidRain, its been around 3 days
[13:23] <usr13> Ok.
[13:23] <[THC]AcidRain> bazhang, man those 3 days have been eternity
[13:23] <bazhang> [THC]AcidRain, you seem to be not ontopic during your time in #ubuntu
[13:23] <[THC]AcidRain> like you think im joking, i sit and look at the #ubuntu channel wishing i could talk. i was tryign to give you the silent treatment to see if you lovedme but its not working
[13:23] <usr13> Ok, well, it's not all that important I guess.
[13:24] <[THC]AcidRain> i want to be on topic now :(
[13:24] <bazhang> usr13, sure its augh
[13:24] <[THC]AcidRain> ill even raise my hand before i speak
[13:24] <[THC]AcidRain> lesson learned: if "ubuntu" is not in my statement or question, dont type it
[13:25] <[THC]AcidRain> i got you man. unban me =(
[13:25] <bazhang> [THC]AcidRain, its not a ban, just a +q
[13:25] <[THC]AcidRain> is there not a high counsil or something around here who will determine my official fait
[13:25] <[THC]AcidRain> well -q :(:(:(:(
[13:25] <bazhang> [THC]AcidRain, I asked you to join here 2 days ago
[13:26] <[THC]AcidRain> i was being a jerk then lol cmon man
[13:26] <[THC]AcidRain> show some love. ubuntu love
[13:26] <bazhang> [THC]AcidRain, please read the guidelines and the code of conduct before we proceed
[13:26] <tsimpson> [THC]AcidRain: I suggest you take this a bit more seriously if you want to deal with the quiet
[13:26] <bazhang> !guidelines | [THC]AcidRain
[13:26] <[THC]AcidRain> omg. you are seriously going to make me read that?
[13:26] <bazhang> !coc | [THC]AcidRain
[13:27] <[THC]AcidRain> man i rly hate reading and you have given me to school type documents to read? :/
[13:27] <[THC]AcidRain> if you gonna make me i will
[13:27] <[THC]AcidRain> but i thought me sayin i learned my lesson was enough
[13:27] <bazhang> [THC]AcidRain, if its too much trouble, there's really no way to move forward
[13:28] <[THC]AcidRain> ok im reading guidelines now >_>
[13:28] <CarlFK> [THC]AcidRain: ou seemed focused on your technical problem.  think about the social problem: channel with many people chatting,  a few ops, people that cause problems, people that don't respect the ops
[13:29] <topyli> [THC]AcidRain: if you don't mind my interfering a little, you're here to resolve your issue in #ubuntu. frankly, this attitude is not beneficial for that. laughing at operators who try to help you here is not very encouraging
[13:30] <[THC]AcidRain> topyli, well when i said "lol" it more meant "damn i know i messed up. laugh is on me"
[13:31] <[THC]AcidRain> i have read the guidelines. i see my faults
[13:31] <[THC]AcidRain> i guess my issue fell under "Dont be annoying"
[13:34] <bazhang> [THC]AcidRain, and the other link, the code of conduct, please
[13:34] <[THC]AcidRain> bazhang, it must just be me. but i swear i cant beat the captcha
[13:35] <bazhang> [THC]AcidRain, there is none there
[13:35] <[THC]AcidRain> did you not want me to sign the CoC?
[13:35] <Pici> [THC]AcidRain: You don't need to sign it, just read it.
[13:35] <bazhang> nope, just read the link
[13:36] <Pici> (The signing requires a gpg key and is outside the scope of this conversation) :)
[13:36] <[THC]AcidRain> Pici, oh i see now. i hadnt read that far down yet
[13:37] <[THC]AcidRain> bazhang, ok. i have read that as well
[13:37] <bazhang> [THC]AcidRain, and you agree to abide by both? next time won't be just a +q
[13:38] <[THC]AcidRain> with a chance of possible defense in my statement regarding its association with #ubuntu. i agree
[13:38] <bazhang> [THC]AcidRain, not sure what that means
[13:39] <[THC]AcidRain> in the future, it may appear that i sore offtopic, but in a few short single line statements, its for a bigger meaning aimed toward helping someone
[13:39] <[THC]AcidRain> im like a zombie that feeds off knowledge. i NEED #ubuntu to live
[13:39] <bazhang> [THC]AcidRain, thats not what #ubuntu is about. #ubuntu-offtopic is for chit chat
[13:39] <[THC]AcidRain> understood
[13:40] <[THC]AcidRain> agreed
[13:40] <bazhang> [THC]AcidRain, there is not going to be the editorial offtopic commentary then?
[13:40] <[THC]AcidRain> correct
[13:41] <[THC]AcidRain> i was going to post something like "BOOM IM BACK!" but after reading the CoC and guidelines, i see that would not be appropriate
[13:41] <[THC]AcidRain> because of 600+ people did the same thing with a public away message, it would be flood
[13:41] <[THC]AcidRain> and annoying
[13:42] <[THC]AcidRain> and very unhelpful. rly it would just violate all terms of agreement
[13:42] <[THC]AcidRain> i will strive for perfection. and one day hope to me an admin or op like yourself
[13:43] <[THC]AcidRain> cmon man. tell me some good news
[13:43] <bazhang> [THC]AcidRain, the +q is removed.
[13:44] <[THC]AcidRain> ! <3
[14:06] <h00k> sorry for the disconnects
[14:06] <h00k> my vps provider is looking into something
[14:16] <h00k> @login
[14:16] <h00k> @btlogin
[14:16] <h00k> .15
[14:16] <physically_fit> hey, unban me from #ubuntu i need to enter there. thank you very much.
[14:17] <ikonia> physically_fit: you where banned because you persistantly ignored instructions to not ask questions on how to get past country specific content
[14:17] <physically_fit> i wont do that again. unban me.
[14:17] <ikonia> sorry - I dont' believe you at this time
[14:18] <ikonia> you ignored multiple warnings, got banned
[14:18] <physically_fit> i just posted 2 or 3 lines
[14:18] <ikonia> then tried to do it in other channels, despite being told not to
[14:18] <ikonia> so I'm not going to unban you at this time.
[14:18] <ikonia> physically_fit: each time I asked you not to - you waited 15 minutes and did it again
[14:18] <physically_fit> when are you going to unban me
[14:18] <ikonia> I then banned you, you moved to #ubuntu-offtopic and started to do it
[14:18] <ikonia> you moved to #ubuntu-fi to do it, despite me telling you not to
[14:18] <physically_fit> i need a date
[14:19] <ikonia> physically_fit: you won't get a date as I'm not convinced by your intentions
[14:19] <physically_fit> this is the first time that im banned in here
[14:19] <ikonia> yes, but the reasons you got banned is what's the problem
[14:19] <ikonia> it's not that you didn't know what you where doing
[14:19] <ikonia> you made multiple decisions to ignore instructions not to do something
[14:19] <physically_fit> i forgot about what happened yesterday. i want to enter ubuntu for other reasons
[14:20] <ikonia> you forgot - I didn't
[14:20] <ikonia> I have no confidence you can follow instructions/behave in the channel at this time.
[14:20] <ikonia> come back in a few days
[14:20] <h00k> in the meantime, please read the guidelines, and code of conduct
[14:20] <ikonia> 2 days if you want to be specific
[14:20] <ikonia> that's 48 hours from now
[14:20] <knome> !guidelines
[14:20] <h00k> ubottu: guidelines > physically_fit
[14:20] <knome> !coc
[14:21] <knome> h00k, awwwh :)
[14:21] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu-ops physically_fit review ban in 48 hours from this time stamp - not before
[14:26] <Pici> bazhang: ftr, lightdm replaces gdm in oneiric.
[14:27] <bazhang> Pici, he wanted arch help however, was crossdistrochannelposting
[14:27] <Pici> bazhang: Right, just wanted to make sure that we don't assume that all lightdm questions are arch related in the future :)
[14:27] <bazhang> Pici, heh, yeah I know about lightdm being in oneiric
[14:41] <rww> ikonia: I already cleaned up yesterday (by hand, not scripted). The only bans you have set in there right now are galamar, fujisan, phix, LarsTorben, and I think the other ones I'm seeing in BT are already removed.
[14:42] <rww> ikonia: the first one I'm not sure what's up with them, the last three I think are rather keepable
[14:42] <ikonia> cool, thank you
[15:04] <mneptok> anyone here going to LinuxCon/NA?
[15:31] <usr13> Hi
[15:33] <usr13> topyli Hello
[15:36] <ikonia> hello usr13
[15:36] <ikonia> sorry we didn't get time to answer your question earlier
[15:40] <usr13> That's ok. There may not be any real answer.  And well, not all that important I guess.  There's not really any way to force or trick someone into letting us know what OS they REALLY are running, so I suppose it is a moot point
[15:41] <ikonia> usr13: can see certain things, such as the output of lsb-release, the output of apt-get update, the running kernel with uname etc, they can all give clues
[15:42] <usr13> but they can lie about output of lsb_release -a
[15:42] <ikonia> that is true, which is why I gave you other commands
[15:43] <usr13> Ok, yea, good info.  uname could give a clue.  But what about  apt-get update   What about that?  What would you look for there?
[15:43] <ikonia> the repos they are using
[15:45] <usr13> So... "What is the third to last line in output of apt-get update?"
[15:46] <usr13> Or... something like that?
[15:53] <ikonia> no, just pastebin the output of it and have look if it looks sane
[16:25] <oCean> Hi usr13, is there anything this channel can help you with currently?
[16:31] <oCean> usr13: if there's nothing we can do for you, please part the channel
[18:51] <larstk> hi
[18:51] <larstk> why banned
[18:53] <oCean> larstk: I think you know
[18:53] <oCean> we've had many, many conversations and discussions about this
[18:53] <larstk> no i want to do a restart
[18:53] <larstk> completely from beginning
[18:53] <oCean> sorry, not at this time
[18:54] <larstk> ok
[18:54] <oCean> you got many, many changes for a "restart"
[18:57] <oCean> halp!
[18:58] <Jordan_U> oCean: ?
[18:58] <oCean> Jordan_U: sorry, crossposting :)
[20:49] <h00k> Oh, a new bot to get used to.
[20:51] <ikonia> where ?
[20:52] <rww> ikonia: h00k means eir
[20:52] <h00k> ikonia: eir
[20:52] <rww> h00k: STOP COPYING ME COPYING YOU
[20:52] <ikonia> oh
[20:52] <h00k> rww: STOP COPYING ME COPYING YOU
[20:52] <rww>  -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- You are not authorized to perform this operation.
[20:52] <rww> :(
 Richiie, unity is indeed the worse thing to come from the human race
[23:05] <bazhang> that didn't last long
[23:18] <bazhang> * [KittyGirl] (boohoo@unaffiliated/cmi-dos): troll face
[23:18] <bazhang> seems familiar
[23:54] <bazhang> [thc]acidrain is PM'ing me to say that since he helped someone, he gets to go offtopic