[03:00] <cyberanger> what's really unusual is wrst's absense
[03:01]  * cyberanger guesses this is one more chance to tease him about my choice of ssh & gun screen over quassel ;-)
[03:01] <cyberanger> Unit193: ^^
[03:05] <Unit193> Heh, could be. I've been working on something for a little bit that you would have had done by now :P (Had to switch ideas once too)
[03:23] <cyberanger> Unit193: idk, I've "worked on stuff" that just gets swept away for the next project, that has something come up, gets set aside for the next project
[03:24] <cyberanger> then I get 5 (for an example) sitting uncomplete and finally finish 4 of them, & repeat
[03:25] <Unit193> Eh, I just need to figure out how to do it :/
[03:26]  * cyberanger wonders what 'it' is
[03:28]  * cyberanger was more saying that above, as a way to say that no matter how awesome or dull (I admit, some were) my projects are, there was bits I had to ask, set it aside, try & try again, and on occasion, set it aside for a more pressing matter
[03:30] <Unit193> There is a worse way to do this, but I'm already thinking of doing it :P
[03:32]  * cyberanger is thinking "it" is a rather vauge word
[03:33] <Unit193> Yep, but if I say what it is and how I'm going about doing it, you (and people that scroll up) will see how bad it is :P
[04:02] <Unit193> Now I've seen cyberspace_ , cyberspider , and cyberanger today :P
[04:04] <cyberanger> lol
[14:23] <Xpistos> Morning
[14:42]  * cyberanger yawns
[14:42] <cyberanger> Morning Xpistos
[14:51] <cyberanger> wrst: I was wondering, why did your quassel account go off all night, did it have a bug
[14:51] <cyberanger> Xpistos: how's your morning
[14:52] <Xpistos> not bad. I went to my son's school for a welcome kindergadener's meeting today
[14:52] <Xpistos> MMM! Sausage Balls!
[14:52] <Xpistos> And Free Coffee
[14:52] <Xpistos> Me good.
[14:57] <wrst> cyberanger: nope just shut my server down at home while moving still have no internet at the new place but this is on another machine
[15:02] <cyberanger> Xpistos: ah, good to hear
[15:03] <cyberanger> wrst: so it wasn't quassels fault
[15:03] <wrst> nope cyberanger i just shut it down I am going to take the server home tonight and get my network going
[15:04] <Xpistos> FYI
[15:04] <Xpistos> wrst I may be going to quassel
[15:04] <wrst> cool Xpistos
[15:04]  * cyberanger still thinks it's quassels fault, tempting one to run an xorg server for IRC
[15:04] <wrst> setting up a core and client ?
[15:05] <wrst> cyberanger: the server does not run in X its completely cli server based ;)
[15:07] <cyberanger> Xpistos: it's a good client (or so wrst tells me ;-))
[15:07] <wrst> actually cyberanger the client is just so-so but the total package is very nice
[15:08] <cyberanger> bbiab, sorry, short notice gotta run
[15:08] <wrst> later cyberanger
[15:09] <cyberanger> (I'm a fan of having IRC be dependant on as little as it can, since it's the main help option it seems (short of a google search for somebody's blog)
[15:24] <pace_t_zulu> hey guys
[15:24] <pace_t_zulu> quick question ...
[15:24] <pace_t_zulu> strongest ssh key ...
[15:24] <pace_t_zulu> rsa ... dsa ... what are the maximum bits allowed
[15:26] <wrst> cyberanger: ^^^^
[15:26] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: good call ... cyberanger prides himself on these details
[15:37] <wrst> yes pace_t_zulu he should be back momentarily i think
[15:37] <wrst> and how are you doing pace_t_zulu?
[18:44] <cyberanger> hey fellas
[18:45] <Xpistos> stupid internet connection
[18:45] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: not sure there is a maximum, try 8192, it'll take a looong time though
[18:46] <wrst> wb cyberanger
[18:47] <cyberanger> ubuntu now likes ECDSA, RSA is what was favored
[18:47] <cyberanger> nobody seems to have alot of details on ECDSA
[18:50] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: ^^
[18:51] <cyberanger> and 2048 is default, but that's a connection key, ssh dynamically rekeys each session
[18:51] <cyberanger> every 15 minutes I think is default, I shorten that to 5 minutes
[18:51] <cyberanger> wrst: thanks
[18:53] <wrst> cyberanger: good day?
[18:54] <cyberanger> good enough, boarded the dogs, now stepping out for lunch
[18:54] <cyberanger> then packing
[18:54] <cyberanger> bbiab (didn't plan that bit)
[18:55] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: ECDSA ... never seen that acronym
[19:06] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: it's new, maverick or natty made it the default choice, fallback (in order) to rsa & dsa as needed
[19:07] <pace_t_zulu> rsa is preferred standard ...
[19:07] <pace_t_zulu> ECDSA is stronger ... but support isn't guaranteed on older systems
[19:08] <cyberanger> however ubuntu (and perhaps debian) actually starts with ECDSA unless you tell it rsa
[19:08] <cyberanger> I go with rsa still, it's proven
[19:09] <cyberanger> and ssh dynamic rekeying sorta shifts the game with key strength
[19:09] <cyberanger> protect the login keys and the rekeying makes getting a useful picture of anything hard too
[19:11] <cyberanger> take the size of an rsa key higher than 8192 if you want, it's the highest I've gone
[19:11] <cyberanger> 4096 on the netbook
[19:15] <cyberanger> wrst: just trip preperations kinda a headache
[19:20] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: you see the new oneiric login screen?
[19:21] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: I have upgraded but I still have GDM
[19:21] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: looks way better than GDM
[19:21] <wrst> what I hear
[19:21] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: interested in a screenshot?
[19:22] <wrst> pace_t_zulu:  I'm always interested in a screenshot ;)
[19:23] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: un momentito
[19:23] <wrst> thank you sir
[19:26] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: http://i55.tinypic.com/333z91j.png
[19:28] <wrst> that is pretty nice
[19:30] <wrst> cyberanger: I did somethign you wouldn't expect, I actually installed grub 2 intentionally
[19:35] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: i want to create some keys that are cross platform
[19:36] <pace_t_zulu> i'm thinking RSA @ 4096 ... if 8192 is possible i'll go with that
[19:38] <cyberanger> 4096 is for sure, 8192 should be, but that large a size is a resource hog (always a tradeoff)
[19:59] <cyberanger> wrst: I can believe it
[19:59] <cyberanger> while I had few (if any) issues of my own, what was the support issue here & in #ubuntu for a month or more
[20:12] <cyberanger> wrst: any foul ball?
[20:13] <wrst> cyberanger: it worked great
[20:13] <wrst> my problem I think was with ubuntu's package not so much grub 2
[20:13] <cyberanger> Woot Home Run
[20:13] <cyberanger> Go Pirates
[20:13]  * cyberanger ducks
[20:14] <cyberanger> baseball humour aside, that's sweet wrst
[20:14] <wrst> yeah somewhere in some of ubntu's automagicness I beleive is the issue
[20:14] <wrst> folllowed the arch directions on grub 2 and it worked absolutely perfectly
[20:14] <cyberanger> idk if ubuntu's package was even it (so many distros went down the "Nobody Dual Boots two distros" road in grub2, hard to knwo)
[20:15] <cyberanger> know*
[20:15] <wrst> cyberanger: I'm quadruple booting distros along with win 7
[20:15] <cyberanger> glad arch had another good document
[20:15] <cyberanger> sorry ubuntu didn't
[20:16] <wrst> cyberanger: that would be a great job for us distros like you and pace_t_zulu have talekd about
[20:16]  * cyberanger suddenly recalls forgetting something
[20:17] <cyberanger> gotta add an item to the meeting adgenda ;-)
[20:17] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: feel free to add it ;_
[20:17] <pace_t_zulu> ;)
[20:17] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: add it here http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/156/detail/
[20:18] <cyberanger> already there & working toward that
[20:18] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: good man
[20:20] <cyberanger> yeah, trying to kill a habit
[20:21] <cyberanger> I just make sure (on the offchance I don't) we have a meeting reminder with that link on the ML (ideally two days before, at the latest)
[20:22] <cyberanger> whoops, that's what I get for having 30 thoughts running crazy atm
[20:23] <cyberanger> I just need to make sure that link gets in the ML reminder, or someone else, on the offchance I cannot, two days before the meeting, at the latest
[21:13] <cyberanger> Well, Gotta head out again, I'll be at the Jack in the Box on charolette pike in nashville, about 4 hours
[21:13] <cyberanger> yearly family trip
[21:13] <wrst> cyberanger:  have fun
[21:14] <cyberanger> I'll be online (Running at hotspot out of a netbook & celluar card ;-))
[21:14] <cyberanger> thanks wrst, be back when I'm in range of some cell towers (kinda hit & miss till city limits)
[21:15] <wrst> enjoy the absence of such things cyberanger!
[21:15] <cyberanger> I sure will, just not tonight ;-)
[21:17] <cyberanger> (family rented a van, I'm not on the list, so I need something too offset that (last year I drove out there solo, so this is sorta like telling a nascar driver he can't drive anything other than a bycycle)
[21:17] <cyberanger> so yeah, internet tonight ;-))
[21:32] <cyberanger> bbiab
[22:26] <cyberanger> ah the joys of internet at 55 mph
[22:29] <cyberanger> if I can't drive 55, at least I can surf
[23:26] <wrst> how are you connected cyberanger?