[00:00] <PamAnderson> how do i turn off vert sync
[00:00] <PamAnderson> ???
[00:00] <PamAnderson> hello?
[00:00] <PamAnderson> can you read this?
[00:00] <FloodBot1> PamAnderson: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:00] <Richiie> alright now i rebooted
[00:00] <Richiie> and im getting this prompt when loging in "Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode"
[00:00] <exutux> arquebus: ctrl+l
[00:01] <Richiie> i tried to reconfigure xorg but it doesnt work so i have to start in VESA i think it's called that way and it looks terrible
[00:01] <Richiie> how can i solve this, problem that when i start my Ubuntu i get a prompt telling me that ubuntu runs in low graphic mode?
[00:01] <arquebus> exutux- what is ctrl+I for?
[00:01] <Cyr4x> http://imageshack.us/f/814/14082011005.jpg/
[00:02] <Gentoo64> fairtrade?
[00:02] <zykotick9> Richiie, what graphics card are you using?  "lspci | grep -i vga" in a terminal if you aren't sure.
[00:02] <jaispida> hi
[00:02] <Richiie> zykotick9: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R430 [Radeon X800 XL] (PCIe)
[00:03] <Richiie> Saphire radeon X800XL all i want to do is to revert back to the default ubuntu drivers, the open source ones that comes when i installed my ubuntu 10.04
[00:03] <exutux> arquebus: ctrl+L for show you path in address bar in nautilus
[00:03] <Gentoo64> Richiie, can you not do hat from the driver manager
[00:04] <Richiie> Gentoo64: nope, there is no drivers propieraty that works for my card..
[00:04] <Richiie> i tried to install latest possible drivers by following this one sec,
[00:04] <Gentoo64> what are you using then?
[00:04] <arquebus> exutux- ok, thanks, good to know, although I just set the address bar to text permanently
[00:05] <Richiie> Gentoo64: well now i think its vesa..
[00:05] <Richiie> Gentoo64: getting that stupid prompt when i start my Linux "Ubuntu is running in low graphic mode"
[00:06] <Richiie> Gentoo64: i followed this okay..
[00:06] <Richiie> Gentoo64: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Lucid_Installation_Guide#Ubuntu_X_Team.27s_PPA
[00:06] <Richiie> the thing was that those drivers didnt work as i wanted to.. the catalyst control center wouldnt start
[00:06] <Richiie> i got an error telling me "no properly ATI card found" and i was like hey wtf
[00:07] <Richiie> so i removed the PPA repository list, and i really just want to revert back to the original open source 10.04 drivers that came when i installed my system
[00:07] <dawid> hi
[00:07] <Gentoo64> can you not apt-get remove fglrx
[00:07] <Gentoo64> or whatever it is
[00:07] <Richiie> i dont have fglrx installed..
[00:07] <Richiie> as im saying i removed all that crappy stuff. i just want to revert back to the original 10.04 drivers
[00:08] <triplc> how to install menumaker ? i read that i should install "menumaker" to create proper menu for openbox, but i do not know which package to install to get menumaker (apt-get install menumaker does not work(
[00:08] <Richiie> so i can get rid of the error message telling me every time i start my Linux "Ubuntu is running in low graphic mode"
[00:08] <Gentoo64> triplc, try mmaker?
[00:08] <Gentoo64> probably wrong
[00:08] <Gentoo64> Richiie, i have no idea :( sorry
[00:09] <triplc> apt-get install mmaker does not work either, i am using ubuntu 10.0
[00:09] <triplc> apt-get install mmaker does not work either, i am using ubuntu 10.04
[00:09] <Richiie> come on theres gotta be a way of dealing whit this..
[00:09] <Richiie> Gentoo64: come on you gotta now some way of dealing whit this mate
[00:10] <Gentoo64> triplc, i think you need to compile it
[00:10] <Gentoo64> from source
[00:10] <Gentoo64> Richiie, i hope someone else can help you. i dont use ati
[00:11] <triplc> Gentoo64: oops
[00:11]  * zykotick9 thinks someone should ask Richiie if they are currently using an xorg.conf, and if they are, to try booting without it.
[00:11] <Gentoo64> triplc, i googled it and seems thats the only way
[00:11] <Gentoo64> triplc, i have a menu file if you want that and edit it
[00:11] <Gentoo64> use it as a base
[00:12] <triplc> Gentoo64: ah no need... thanks anyway
[00:12] <Gasseus> How could I figure out my current localnet IP address via bash and its available utilities?
[00:13] <zykotick9> Gasseus, ifconfig?
[00:13] <triplc> lynx http://myipaddress.net
[00:13] <Gasseus> triplc i need the localnet version
[00:14] <Gasseus> zykotick9 it needs root privilages, which I don't want to give an automatic script
[00:14] <Gasseus> I'm trying to determine if I should connect to the localnet ip or the global ip for my ssh server.
[00:15] <Gasseus> triplc also, that site is offline
[00:15] <sara> mi internal mic on my acer laptop not working with skype ?
[00:15] <Gasseus> sara known problem, talk to microsoft about it
[00:17] <dreamy_> hi is there a nice adress to find nice linux games?
[00:17] <dreamy_> 3d..
[00:18] <dreamy_> or maybe a irc room
[00:18] <TYDIRocks> edbian, hey bro, do you think this would work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10340183#post10340183
[00:18] <Gasseus> dreamy_ getdeb
[00:18] <dreamy_> Gasseus, www ?
[00:18] <dreamy_> www.getdeb.com ?
[00:18] <Gasseus> dreamy_ google it
[00:18] <dreamy_> k
[00:18] <Gasseus> its like the first result
[00:18] <dreamy_> ty
[00:18] <edbian> TYDIRocks: reading....
[00:19] <Gasseus> make sure to select playdeb tho
[00:19] <edbian> TYDIRocks: It's written by staff so it probably works.  It probably however is not easy to get it work.  Also, I think it's overkill.
[00:19] <w30> dreamy_, linuxgames.com
[00:19] <TYDIRocks> edbian, dang
[00:19] <Gasseus> *sigh*
[00:19] <edbian> TYDIRocks: ha, sorry :)
[00:20] <TYDIRocks> edbian, heh it's fine
[00:21] <paulo> can anyone help me
[00:21] <paulo> ??????????????'
[00:21] <Gasseus> hmm?
[00:21] <Gasseus> !ask
[00:22] <paulo> I instaled veetle aparently not rigth
[00:22] <Gasseus> veetle?
[00:23] <Gasseus> paulo this is not the appropriate place to ask about veetle. The appropriate place would probably be veetle customer support
[00:23] <paulo> them wen I initialize the pc I have a message: "Could not update ICE authority file
[00:24] <paulo> with a buton of close. i press enter and the pc initializes but I dont have sound control
[00:25] <paulo> does any one now a solution to this
[00:25] <paulo> my problem is not with veetle itself. I would prefer to unistall it if my problem would be solved
[00:26] <Gasseus> in terminal, cd ~
[00:26] <Gasseus> then "sudo chown username:username .ICEauthority"
[00:26] <Gasseus> then "sudo chmod 0644 .ICEauthority
[00:27] <paulo> ok, done
[00:27] <paulo> and now?
[00:28] <Gasseus> there's no "and now?"
[00:28] <Gasseus> either it works, or its unsolvable by my knowledge
[00:28] <paulo> ok
[00:29] <paulo> so now i should initialize the pc again to see if the problem is still there?
[00:29] <paulo> and how do I remove the veetle?
[00:30] <Gasseus> that i don't know
[00:30] <Gasseus> probably sudo dpkg --purge veetle
[00:31] <maestrojed> I think I am following the wrong directions, maybe someone can point me in the right direction. I have a computer with only USB (no CD). I want to install Ubuntu. I was going to use a USB stick. I my current computer is OSX. How, using my OSX computer, can I create a USB stick that can boot/install ubuntu to a new system? I tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20Ma
[00:31] <maestrojed> cBook%20using%20USB%20Stick#Manual%20Approach
[00:31] <maestrojed> sorry, too long https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick#Manual%20Approach
[00:31] <stephenthemartyr> ,/join#opensourcemusicians
[00:32] <Gasseus> maestrojed do you plan on cooking eggs on that thing too?
[00:32] <dreamy_> i got another question , i typed apt-get install flightgear.. and it installed 600 megs of data and after i typed apt-get remove it only removed someth like about 1 meg, how do i remove all the uncessary pakcages?
[00:32] <Gasseus> dreamy_ sudo apt-get autoremove
[00:32] <dreamy_> k ty
[00:33] <maestrojed> Gasseus maybe I made it sound too confusing. This can't be that odd, right? I just need a USB stick that I use to install ubuntu
[00:33] <dreamy_> Gasseus, it will speed up my system i think
[00:33] <dreamy_> having less packages
[00:33] <Gasseus> dreamy_ thats a misconception
[00:34] <dreamy_> Gasseus, and after i did, apt-get remove driconf --purge     .. after that everything got like it was too ?
[00:34] <mengu> tabakhase: tried xzoom?
[00:35] <pl0xy> need help sharing internet & firestarter who can help me please
[00:35] <Gasseus> dreamy_ Some things that daemonize will slow down your computer if they actually use any cpu time, but like 99% of the programs in ubuntu sit idle.
[00:35] <KM0201> Gasseus: well, if the system were packed to the gills, it would speed it up (most likely).. but if it's packed that full, 600mb isn't gonna do much
[00:35] <Gasseus> pl0xy sharing internet...
[00:35] <Gasseus> how so?
[00:35] <xKrisx> I'm pretty new to linux but I was trying to attempt this: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/ndiswrapper.html I was wondering about the inf file and which one it is suppose to be. Its a Netgear WN111v2 if that helps at all.
[00:35] <dreamy_> Gasseus, k ty for the help
[00:36] <pl0xy> im trying this since 4 days ago and cant setup :/
[00:36] <Gasseus> KM0201 I keep my root partition pretty full, don't notice much slowness
[00:36] <pl0xy> have ubuntu with 2 network devices
[00:36] <Shardvex> Seriously, I have been using this awesome OS for one week, and have decided that I am never going to look at that awful blue-thing that Microsoft sells again.
[00:36] <Gasseus> pl0xy and are you using a crossover ethernet cable?
[00:37] <Gasseus> Shardvex Ubuntu's pretty blue too :D
[00:37] <Shardvex> ...no its brown/purple
[00:37] <Gasseus> meh
[00:37] <stephenthemartyr> can someone help me get jacksudio working
[00:37] <Shardvex> fedora is blue
[00:37] <pl0xy> well i change cable 1 time but not see that
[00:38] <Gasseus> pl0xy you specifically need a crossover type cable to connect the two computers
[00:39] <Gasseus> pl0xy ask at a computer shop they'll know what you're talking about
[00:39] <dreamy_> Gasseus, do you know turn based sort of militaristic games?
[00:39] <dreamy_> squad control
[00:40] <Gasseus> dreamy_ kernel panic is the only one I can think of ottomh, let me look
[00:40] <pl0xy> internet (adsl-router) -> switch/hub -> Firewall/router/ubuntu/vpn -> router Wifi -> My pc
[00:40] <Gasseus> pl0xy you NEED an ETHERNET CROSSOVER CABLE
[00:40] <xKrisx> can anyone help me, im trying to setup my usb network adaptor by doing this: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/ndiswrapper.html
[00:41] <Gasseus> xKrisx what kind of adaptor?
[00:41] <propman> maestrojed:  might want to take a look around  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[00:41] <Gasseus> dreamy_ warzone2100
[00:41] <pl0xy> yes im going to look if mine is crossover
[00:41] <xKrisx> WN111v2 Netgear
[00:41] <dreamy_> let me check
[00:41] <maestrojed> propman thx, I will
[00:41] <pl0xy> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vergleich_2von2_Crossoverkabel.jpg
[00:42] <Gasseus> xKrisx see this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=885520
[00:42] <pl0xy> rigth ?
[00:42] <dreamy_> Gasseus, are you a jagged alliance series fan?
[00:42] <xKrisx> ive been there
[00:42] <Gasseus> dreamy_ Never heard of it
[00:42] <dreamy_> k
[00:43] <Gasseus> dreamy_ I like it because its similar to command and conquer
[00:43] <dreamy_> k
[00:43] <xKrisx> I dont have the disk
[00:44] <pl0xy> Gasseus if the setup is : internet -> ubuntu router -> wifi router -> my pc it has to be crossover ?
[00:44] <Gasseus> xKrisx http://support.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/12656/~/wn111v2-software-version-3.0-(supports-win7)
[00:45] <Gasseus> pl0xy yes, because the router internet port is a client side ethernet port, same with your firewalls nic
[00:46] <pl0xy> kk , goint for that now thanks
[00:47] <xKrisx> where is the inf file?
[00:48] <Gasseus> xKrisx give me a second
[00:48] <xKrisx> alright
[00:49] <Gasseus> xKrisx run it with wine
[00:49] <Gasseus> then wherever it would normally be in windows, you'll find it in wine
[00:49] <Guest47885> any one know about sound issues?
[00:50] <xKrisx> this post says its in the disk
[00:50] <Benkinooby> can i run links -g in a terminal?
[00:50] <Guest47885> any one know about sound issues?
[00:50] <Guest47885> any one?
[00:51] <Gasseus> xKrisx Run the software in that link in wine, then it will be in C:\WINDOWS\system32\Drivers\WNDA31.sys
[00:51] <I7Core> yes, Guest47885
[00:51] <Gasseus> thats what you need
[00:51] <xKrisx> "Also copy the contents of the directory containing the .inf file that was used during installation (which should be D:\bin\config\ndis5\, assuming your CD drive is D)." Doesn't that mean its on windows?
[00:51] <xKrisx> no i have that other file
[00:51] <usr13> defswork: ifconfig
[00:52] <Guest47885> i have a rocket fish sound card but no sound
[00:52] <Gasseus> xKrisx it will also be in the C:\ directory
[00:52] <Benkinooby> Guest47885: first, be patient. second you would help us to help you, by secifying your problems? what is the problem? what are it's symptoms? what works? what doesn work?
[00:52] <I7Core> why?
[00:53] <Benkinooby> Guest47885: have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound ?
[00:53] <Gasseus> or it should
[00:53] <Guest47885> well the sound dosent work and neather dose the sound card ive tryed downloading in va wine but no luck and ive tryed all the settings on my sound prefrences
[00:53] <Gasseus> Guest47885 try in terminal alsa-sound
[00:53] <aaas> which are people having more success with: nvidia propritory drivers or nvidia-current?
[00:53] <Guest47885> mk sec
[00:53] <aaas> sorry should mention 11.04 is my os
[00:54] <zykotick9> aaas, nvidia-current IS the proprietary driver
[00:54] <pl0xy> just changed the cable and its the same :/
[00:54] <Guest47885> command not found
[00:54] <Gasseus> Guest47885 sorry its alsamixer
[00:54] <xKrisx> Gasseus: I don't understand, why would the inf be in the root?
[00:54] <aaas> zykotick9: but some people are having more luck with the nvidia drivers from the site
[00:54] <phirestalker> ok I have a problem USB pen drive. it seems that after I mount it, even after I unmount it, I am unable to mount certain other drives like truecrypt volumes. It will say "bad file descriptor" with no other info. My question is, how do I clear the problem without restarting?
[00:54] <Guest47885> wooh whats this screan that poped up?
[00:55] <Gasseus> xKrisx Look around your wine's c:\ drive it should be somewhere in there i'm not 100% sure where
[00:55] <zykotick9> aaas, ah, yes that's a different question.  So, I've never used the driver for Nvidia.com so I have no idea.  Good luck.
[00:55] <Gasseus> Guest47885 its the backend sound control
[00:56] <Guest47885> ok so what am i looking for and what am i doing?
[00:56] <Gasseus> Guest47885 make some music play (grooveshark, pandora, etc) and adjust them one by one
[00:56] <Gasseus> if none of them make any volume happen, then your card is unsupported
[00:56] <aaas> zykotick9: anyone?  nvidia-current or nvidia's version?
[00:57] <Gasseus> aaas nvidia-current
[00:57] <phirestalker> what daemon could be "stuck" that I can just restart that daemon?
[00:57] <Benkinooby> Guest47885: it can also be that it is muted... see if you can spot "MM" under the controlers
[00:57] <Guest47885> i can asure you that that is not the case
[00:58] <Benkinooby> Guest47885: so there is no "MM" under the volumebars?`
[00:58] <Guest47885> hold on you might be on to something
[00:58] <Benkinooby> :P
[00:59] <Benkinooby> Guest47885: if there is a "MM" then navigate to the volumebar with the left and right arrows and press m to toggle the "MM" away
[01:00] <Guest47885> there is no mm
[01:00] <S4nD3r> Installing kernel 3.0, to upgrade 10.04 64bits, is stable?
[01:00] <Benkinooby> Guest47885: with F5 you can see all volumebars
[01:00] <Benkinooby> Guest47885: with F5 you can see all volumebars - more than in standard view
[01:00] <Guest47885> i push "f6' and try to slect my rocketfish and its not there
[01:02] <xKrisx> the usb i plugged in was automatically mounted and spammed me with windows....
[01:02] <Benkinooby> Guest47885: ok try this command in commandline "aplay /usr/share/sounds/pop.wav"
[01:03] <Benkinooby> it should make some kind of pop noise Guest47885
[01:03] <Benkinooby> Guest47885: if it does not work, can you see some kind of error message?
[01:04] <Guest47885> in the termal
[01:04] <Guest47885> ?
[01:04] <Benkinooby> Guest47885: yes
[01:04] <Guest47885> aplay /usr/share/sounds/pop.wav
[01:04] <Guest47885> /usr/share/sounds/pop.wav: No such file or directory
[01:05] <Benkinooby> Guest47885: ok, try  aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[01:05] <Benkinooby> Guest47885: ok, try  "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav"
[01:05] <dasddsa> Hello.  Has anyone seen a problem with the latest 11.04 updates and vpn pptp? I'm seeing a problem where pppd doesn't see the response to the LCP Config-Req, but tcpdump shows that it's coming back.  Firewall disabled.
[01:05] <Guest47885> i hurd nothing
[01:06] <Benkinooby> no error messages?
[01:06] <Benkinooby> Guest47885: no error messages?
[01:06] <dasddsa> pppd reports no response to the LCP
[01:06] <Guest47885> $ aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
[01:06] <Guest47885> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
[01:06] <Guest47885> nick@ubuntu:~$
[01:06] <xKrisx> how do i turn automount off?
[01:06] <Guest47885> no error :/
[01:07] <Benkinooby> Guest47885: ok, try "sudo aplay -l"
[01:07] <xKrisx> or stop it from spamming me...
[01:07] <Guest47885> just got a long list of card numbers
[01:07] <dasddsa> Aug 14 20:20:00 dcabot-Aspire-5720Z pppd[4975]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
[01:07] <Benkinooby> xKrisx: do you mean nautilus window popping up?
[01:08] <Benkinooby> Guest47885: ok, try "sudo aplay -l | grep card0"
[01:08] <Guest14050> my name changed :O this is that guest
[01:08] <Guest14050> damn it
[01:09] <Guest14050>  sudo aplay -l | grep card0
[01:09] <Guest14050> nick@ubuntu:~$
[01:09] <Benkinooby> xKrisx: what window's are popping up?
[01:09] <Guest14050> thats all it did
[01:10] <Benkinooby> ?
[01:10] <Guest14050> i tryed taht sudo aplay- l thing and nothing happend
[01:11] <linuxnja> so I noticed Ubuntu is looking more and more like OS X. Now all it needs is iTunes and I'll be able to use it!
[01:11] <Benkinooby> Guest14050: "sudo aplay -l | grep card0" did give you anything?
[01:11] <aaas> i dont suppose anyone has a recommendation for a windows irc client that makes a sound when your name is mentioned in channel?
[01:11] <xKrisx> Benkinooby: the file manger
[01:11] <dasddsa> aaas: pidgin?
[01:11] <Guest14050> nothing
[01:12] <aaas> pidgin does irc..i didnt know that
[01:12] <aaas> dasddsa: is that what you use?
[01:12] <zykotick9> aaas, xchat can be configured to make a sound.  Pidgin is a poor IRC client IMO.
[01:12] <Benkinooby> Guest14050: ok, that means that the card is not properly recongized
[01:12] <dasddsa> aaas: yes
[01:12] <Guest14050> then what do i have to do to make it be recognized?
[01:12] <aaas> zykotick9: is xchat for windows?
[01:12] <Benkinooby> Guest14050: follow this site https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting to fix your sond card
[01:13] <Benkinooby> Guest14050: that website will tell you
[01:13] <zykotick9> aaas, there is a MS Windows xchat yes
[01:13] <willwh> aaas: there is an xchat2 open source build.....
[01:13] <Benkinooby> Guest14050: if you followed it and it didn't help report back to me
[01:13] <willwh> http://www.silverex.org/download/
[01:13] <Benkinooby> xKrisx: are you using gnome?
[01:13] <aaas> is that what you all are using (zykotick9, willwh)
[01:13] <xKrisx> xubuntu
[01:14] <willwh> no, a) I'm running xubuntu - and b) my IRC session is using screen/irssi on my remote server :)
[01:14] <zykotick9> aaas, i haven't used any MS OS in close to 10 years.  But i use xchat on gnu/linux yes.
[01:14] <Guest14050> ergggg all i want is sound
[01:14] <Benkinooby> xKrisx: go to "about" of the manager and tell me its name
[01:15] <aaas> nice!  and thanks for being so nice.... god you go into any channel and ask anything even slightly off topic and the freaking mods want to eat you alive
[01:15] <aaas> everyone is using a freaken irc client on this server, but god forbid i ask for a recommendation when the channel is called #css
[01:15] <xKrisx> Xfce
[01:16] <Benkinooby> xKrisx: that is not a filebrowser... is ther a help section in the file browser? go there and find out the name of the file browser
[01:16] <willwh> aaas: what?!
[01:16] <willwh> oh,I see your previous comment aaas :)
[01:17] <Guest14050> Benkinooby, you still there?
[01:17] <aaas> willwh: haha
[01:17] <willwh> I would highly recommend irssi :)
[01:17] <Benkinooby> Guest14050: yes...
[01:17] <willwh> aaas: one sec let me dig up a link for you
[01:17] <xKrisx> oh the file browser my bad
[01:17] <aaas> willwh: does it make a sound when your name comes up?
[01:17] <zykotick9> aaas, FYI irssi is a command line IRC client
[01:18] <willwh> aaas: pretty much every client out there does beep on hilight
[01:18] <dasddsa> So no one has heard of any recent problems with pppd in 11.04?  This was working a couple of weeks ago.
[01:18] <willwh> aaas: if you're looking for a good local client- definitely use Xchat
[01:18] <aaas> willwh: not hydrairc as far as i can tell...i was loving it too, it was open and a lot of nice features
[01:18] <willwh> it's great
[01:18] <xKrisx> Thunar 1.2.1
[01:18] <willwh> aaas: you're on windows?
[01:18] <Benkinooby> Guest14050: see, i am no wizard so i have no magic bowl that tells me what's wrong with your computer. follow that site i sent you. if you have troubles following it or understanding it i am there.... but i am not your mommy and will not read the site for you
[01:18] <aaas> willwh yes
[01:18] <Benkinooby> xKrisx: ok
[01:18] <Arcademan> Is there a way to gen a installed list into a text doc so I might be able to just use the terminal and install the packages to anther comp.
[01:18] <zykotick9> !clone | Arcademan
[01:19] <willwh> aaas: that xchat2 link I provided you would be a good plan :]
[01:19] <Guest14050> sorry for all the questions but i used wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh      and im not shure what this means but i thught it mught be of some help
[01:19] <Guest14050> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=d665a9d1fda9661d81d99a8666b0a733bddf1fc8
[01:19] <aaas> willwh: why not irssi?
[01:19] <aaas> aaas: i need console i guess?
[01:20] <aaas> oops: willwh
[01:20] <willwh> aaas: no there is a windows build.... but I wouldn't recommend iton windows:]
[01:20] <aaas> willwh: ah ok
[01:20] <willwh> I have an old pc in my basement - it runs 24/7 and runs my irc / webserver etc etc etc
[01:20] <Benkinooby> xKrisx: wow! see what google found for me when entering "Thunar open mount" http://thunar.xfce.org/documentation/C/using-removable-media.html
[01:21] <willwh> soI always connect to my irssi/screen session that runs on there
[01:21] <willwh> aaas: butif you are working in windows - I think xchat2 is just fine - it will let you do everything you need
[01:21] <Guest14050> was that any help?
[01:21] <Benkinooby> Guest14050: one sec, i am reading it
[01:21] <Guest14050> allrighty
[01:21] <aaas> willwh: yep, i use windows for my workstation but ubuntu for my server (apache, samba, backuppc, nx, etc...)
[01:22] <aaas> willwh: cool, I feel as if i'm not using a client to make the best experience
[01:22] <Benkinooby> Guest14050: btw... it is ok to ask questions :) but "ahhh i want sound" is not very helpful ;)
[01:22] <aaas> willwh: for example it's annoying i ahve to retype your name each time, there must be a shortcut for that
[01:23] <dr_willis> !tab
[01:23] <aaas> willwh: I'm just such an irc newbie
[01:23] <dr_willis> tab key is our friend.
[01:23] <aaas> dr_willis: ha! i knew it
[01:23] <dr_willis> try it on the command line also...
[01:23] <Benkinooby> Guest14050: is that from your computer?
[01:23] <Sebo> where can I find some info about /etc/init/* scripts?
[01:23] <aaas> dr_willis oh i know that one
[01:24] <xKrisx> Benkinooby: where in there is suppose to help me with this problem?
[01:24] <dr_willis> Sebo,  at the upstart homepage/docs. I got some neat links on upstart at  http://delicious.com/dr_willis
[01:24] <dr_willis> Sebo,  the upstart cookbook/tips url is very handy
[01:24] <aaas> dr_willis: is there a way to get the name of the person you were just talking to?
[01:24] <aaas> dr_willis: like ".." in ubuntu for the last used directory
[01:25] <dr_willis> aaas,  that would be irc client dependent..
[01:25] <Lasers> aaas: Press up? (Not exactly the same -- but it shows the last line)
[01:25] <dr_willis> aaas,  never seen a nick completion shortcit like that in any of them
[01:25] <Benkinooby> xKrisx: you want to disable "Browse removable media when inserted"
[01:25] <dr_willis> differnt irc clients handle tab differntly.
[01:25] <aaas> Lasers: yeah i guess up arrow and ctrl arrows and backspace is much faster
[01:25] <Guesst1337> hello
[01:25] <xKrisx> alright.
[01:25] <Guest14050> ya sorry i went to the restroom
[01:25] <dr_willis> or just hit tab a few times till the right nick shows up.
[01:25] <xKrisx> thank you Benkinooby
[01:26] <Guest14050> thats from my computer
[01:26] <foxwolfblood> Guesst1337: nice nick
[01:26] <aaas> dr_wills: but it's hard when there are lots of people, right?
[01:26] <Guesst1337> foxwolfblood: thank you
[01:26] <dr_willis> aaas,  tahts why you normally type the first letter or 2 then hit tab....
[01:26] <zykotick9> aaas, FYI "cd .." just takes you to the parent directory, "cd -" actually takes you BACK to last directory
[01:26] <dr_willis> also why nicks that begin with _ or other weirdness are sort of frowned on.
[01:26] <Guesst1337> foxwolfblood: i just got it tho, i didnt make it
[01:27] <aaas> zykotick9: yes that's what i mean
[01:27] <aaas> dr_willis ah i see
[01:27] <willwh> aaas: I just readback - if you use ubuntu server - use screen & irssi
[01:27] <willwh> and just connect to your server to IRC, via putty :D
[01:27] <foxwolfblood> tmux!
[01:27] <Guesst1337> so i was wondering if i can get the itune to work in the ubuntu
[01:27] <willwh> that is what I do, it's the best way to IRC - you never miss anything:D
[01:27] <Lasers> zykotick9: Cool trick! Thanks. :)
[01:28] <dr_willis> willwh,  i tend to use weechat, and znc :)
[01:28] <Guesst1337> im running the 11.04 version
[01:28] <willwh> dr_willis: :P
[01:28] <Benkinooby> Guest14050: hm, looks ok to me
[01:28] <willwh> aaas: quassel is pretty nice too - if you like a GUI.
[01:28] <dr_willis> willwh,  znc takes itto the next level of spiffyness.
[01:28] <linuxnja> Guesst1337: why would yoou want to use iTunes? it sucks anyway
[01:28] <aaas> willwh: I used to use screen for some server/computing work i was doing...you must be a purist...I probably use the gui more often
[01:28] <dr_willis> quassel has so many features.. its scary.
[01:28] <Guesst1337> linuxnja: i use the ipod touch for my music and i would like ot use it on the ubuntu
[01:28] <Guest14050> Benkinooby:  if it looks ok then why do i not have sound
[01:28] <Benkinooby> Guest14050: use this command "find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd"
[01:28] <willwh> aaas: not a purist - I just ssh from phones / tablets etc, I needed something truely cross platform ;)
[01:29] <overclucker> reattaching to channels, and channel playback are my fav features
[01:29] <willwh> aaas: take a look at installing quassel on your server
[01:29] <willwh> and quassel clien ton your pc's
[01:29] <aaas> willwh: rdp/nx are pretty cross platform
[01:29] <willwh> the cient is written in QT
[01:29] <dr_willis> willwh,  i do the android -> znc server on my homebox via dyndns   --> get here.. routine. :)
[01:29] <linuxnja> Guesst1337: apple sucks anyway, ubuntu is trying to copy everything apple does
[01:29] <willwh> dr_willis: home.willskills.com;]
[01:29] <Guest14050> Benkinooby: then what?
[01:29] <Benkinooby> Guest14050: only because it looks ok it doens have to be ok...from reading that file, i think all you need to run is installed... so it seems to be more of a confiuration problem
[01:29] <Benkinooby> Guest14050: is ther output?
[01:29] <Benkinooby> Guest14050: is there output?
[01:29] <willwh> dd-wrt on the router..... cname for home. -> my noip :D
[01:30] <Benkinooby> xKrisx: any news?
[01:30] <Pat201> can someone help me out, im trying to install tar.bz2 files
[01:30] <foxwolfblood> linuxnja: i agree. i havent liked the stuff comming out of canonical for a while
[01:30] <dr_willis> Pat201,  extract them.. read their instal docs... what are in the files exactly?
[01:30] <linuxnja> Pat201: you don't "install" an archive...
[01:30] <Benkinooby> xKrisx: did it work?
[01:30] <xKrisx> kind of
[01:30] <Guesst1337> linuxnja: but i am afraid of the terminal, and ubuntu is better then the windows im running. windows 2003 if im correct
[01:30] <linuxnja> foxwolfblood: yeah, and it's because of people lie Guesst1337
[01:30] <Benkinooby> xKrisx: why kind of?
[01:30] <xKrisx> it keeps on remounting the cd part of the usb
[01:31] <foxwolfblood> linuxnja: :(
[01:31] <dr_willis> Guesst1337,  just get over it and dive into the terminal and learn it.. its a skill that will serve you for the next 10+ years...
[01:31] <xKrisx> i could stop automounting too though
[01:31] <AnonMacPro> hey
[01:31] <linuxnja> Guesst1337: LOL wtf is windows 2003? how can you be afraid of a terminal anyway...it's text on a screen
[01:31] <Guest14050> it came up with alot of /lib/modules/2.6.38-10-generic/kernel/sound but none of them have the word "output
[01:31] <Guest14050> "
[01:32] <overclucker> 2003 is a server edition
[01:32] <Guesst1337> linuxnja: windows 2003 is the version im running because thats what version of the word i have on this computer
[01:32] <AnonMacPro> Mac OS X Lion!!!
[01:32] <Benkinooby> Guest14050: ok, that is a good sign
[01:32] <zykotick9> !ot > AnonMacPro
[01:32] <linuxnja> OS X sucks, especially Lion..what a rip off of gnome 3
[01:32] <Benkinooby> Guest14050: now do "lspci -v | less"
[01:32] <foxwolfblood> linuxnja: ikr
[01:33] <linuxnja> besides OS X is slow..like realy slow
[01:33] <foxwolfblood> and gnome3 sucks too
[01:33] <Pat201> i extracted them looks to be a whole bunch of .deb packages
[01:33] <S4nD3r> I tried to remove a module, but was impossible
[01:33] <Benkinooby> foxwolfblood: what gui do you use?
[01:33] <foxwolfblood> Benkinooby: none
[01:33] <foxwolfblood> Benkinooby: i use the tty
[01:33] <S4nD3r> sudo modprobe -r i915
[01:33] <S4nD3r> FATAL: Module i915 is in use.
[01:33] <Guesst1337> foxwolfblood: my friend who lives in spain with me told me that anyone with a animal in their name is this furry, is that true?
[01:33] <aaas> dr_willis, you know what serves you for life: knowing how to program--and im not a programmer, but its such a great skill
[01:33] <foxwolfblood> Guesst1337: no that is not
[01:33] <S4nD3r> how to do ?
[01:33] <scott__> does anyone know why i can't get windows to install after i installed ubuntu and windows is messed up?
[01:34] <Guesst1337> foxwolfblood: then what is the furry?
[01:34] <foxwolfblood> scott__: yea because you messed up windows.
[01:34] <linuxnja> scott__: because windows will overwrite grub
[01:34] <linuxnja> foxwolfblood: lol he probably resized the partition from the ubuntu installer and screwed up his MFT :P
[01:34] <Guesst1337> i still need to know how i can use my idop touch
[01:34] <Guesst1337> ipod
[01:34] <foxwolfblood> linuxnja: yea.
[01:34] <xangua> Guest1337  stop that please
[01:34] <Benkinooby> Guest14050: hello?
[01:34] <S4nD3r> I'd like to remove a module, from intel video card, but always get that module is use. What to do?
[01:34] <Guest14050> after i did lspci -v | less what am i looking for?
[01:35] <Guest14050> sorry i was reading it
[01:35] <designbybeck> Just wanted to let every OSS user know, a hair and makeup artist I've used for a number of shoots I've done using Open Source Software: GIMP, Inkscape, Blender, Ubuntu Linux, Shotwell, Darktable.... is a finalist for Affliction Clothing Model. Please go vote for her. It would be a great way to support Open Source Software! :)
[01:35] <designbybeck> Voting Website: http://www.afflictionclothing.com/modelsearch/calendar/view.php?id=7928&vote=Vote+For+This+Model
[01:35] <designbybeck> A shot I did of her with Open Source Software: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5164210&l=96d13db8c2&id=500284846
[01:35] <FloodBot1> designbybeck: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:36] <pl0xy> steel need help with sharing my internet with firestarter
[01:36] <szal> designbybeck: #ubuntu-offtopic please :)
[01:36] <Guesst1337> find if no one will help me then i will go and use the apple computer
[01:36] <szal> Guesst1337: as if we cared :P
[01:37] <linuxnja> Guesst1337: lol what are you talking about? Ubuntu is OS X now, Canonical might as well be apple
[01:37] <linuxnja> szal: lol nice attitude to attract new users
[01:37] <Morgz> can i pm someone with a perl question? command is a lil unsightly
[01:37] <linuxnja> szal: no wonder shuttleworth wont reach his goal with people with your attitude
[01:37] <Guesst1337> szal: why do you people have to be so mean?
[01:37] <Guesst1337> i just need some simple hlep
[01:37] <xKrisx> what command lists what i can mount?
[01:37] <Guesst1337> linuxnja: what is osx?
[01:37] <linuxnja> Guesst1337: ......
[01:37] <xangua> !ot
[01:38]  * linuxnja facepalms
[01:38] <pl0xy> yes help me share my internet :p
[01:39] <szal> linuxnja: we help everyone we can (with the stress on 'can')..  and frankly, it's not about using *nix for the sake of it, you use what you reach your goals best with, and if that's something other than Linux/*buntu, then so be it
[01:39] <Guesst1337> i give up
[01:39] <Guesst1337> now i will never be able to get those pictures of danica patrick onto my computer
[01:39] <linuxnja> lol
[01:39] <Guesst1337> thanks for nothing
[01:39] <nankura> Hey guys
[01:39] <szal> !ics | pl0xy
[01:40] <johndo_> wget pr0n?
[01:40] <pl0xy> wut?
[01:40] <nankura> I was wondering if anyone knows about Virtual Machine here. i want to make a virtual image of my linux hard drive setup, and then use it on virtualbox in windows
[01:41] <designbybeck> thanks szal
[01:41] <designbybeck> I do use ubuntu with my editing
[01:41] <designbybeck> so i figured I'd post here
[01:41] <zykotick9> nankura, you might want to try asking in #vbox, it's possible but non-trivial i believe, best of luck.
[01:41] <Lasers> nankura: #vbox would be the better place.
[01:41] <urlin2u> nankura, sav ethe vdi and use it is what I do.
[01:42] <be2ruu> what kind of chat is this
[01:42] <urlin2u> ubuntu
[01:43] <be2ruu> you know mch about ubuntu
[01:43] <somsip> !ask | be2ruu
[01:44] <be2ruu> cool
[01:44] <be2ruu> need help cant get web cam to work
[01:45] <pl0xy> is not working :(
[01:45] <be2ruu> at all none
[01:45] <phirestalker> ok I have a problem USB pen drive. it seems that after I mount it, even after I unmount it, I am unable to mount certain other drives like truecrypt volumes. It will say "bad file descriptor" with no other info. My question is, how do I clear the problem without restarting? id there a daemon that can be stuck and needs to be restarted?
[01:46] <be2ruu> y eee pc wont load drivers for cam
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> be2ruu: do you see yourself in cheese?
[01:47] <be2ruu> tried nothing
[01:47] <pl0xy> the other pc is not getting the ip , is getting : 169.254.24.168
[01:48] <be2ruu> any place to get driveer
[01:48] <sumosu> o/ ubuntu. has anyone ever seriously run an install from a flash memory stick?
[01:48] <pl0xy> whay the other pc is not getting 192.168.0.x (enable by DHCP3 )
[01:48] <be2ruu> yea me
[01:49] <sumosu> be2ruu: you talkin to me?:)
[01:49] <be2ruu> im on it
[01:49] <sumosu> be2ruu: how long?
[01:49] <xangua> 15-30 minutes sumosu
[01:50] <xangua> !webcam | be2ruu
[01:50] <phirestalker> if I have to restart I have another problem. I have 2 usb modems made by 2 different companies, but they both want ttyACM0 if I leave both plugged in. I can get them to use ttyACM0 and 1 if I plug them in order after bootup. the rule I tried is BUS=="usb",ATTRS{serial}=="24680246",NAME:="ttyACM1". what should I use?
[01:50] <sumosu> xangua: i would like to run it like that for a year
[01:50] <w30> those new Macbook Air's look to be awful nice. Maybe Ubuntu on a Mac would be awesome. Anyone doing Ubuntu on a ssd Macbook Air?
[01:51] <Pb__> morgen
[01:52] <sega> всем привет!
[01:52] <rsvp> any fix for SKYPE which crashes after 3 seconds !! version 2.2.0.35 -- msg: "Assertion 'b' failed at pulsecore/memblock.c:451, function pa_memblock_acquire(). Aborting."
[01:52] <szal> !ru | sega
[01:52] <xangua> sumosu: you mean install it To a flash drive¿
[01:52] <xangua> not  install it From a flash drive
[01:52] <ubuntu-user> hi
[01:52] <sumosu> i will rephrase my question: will a usb flash memory stick survive the read and write torture of having a full OS installed on it (no HD)
[01:52] <Pb__> anyone know good ocr program on ubuntu ? i'm new in this OS., from yesterday.
[01:53] <ubuntu-user> is anybody there, who can translate some text into German?
[01:53] <w30> Any development  being done for Intel-Apple thunderbolt for Ubuntu?
[01:53] <sumosu> xangua: yes, see my rephrase above
[01:53] <xangua> sumosu: it will not like much time
[01:53] <bfish> Hi, I need help getting a broadcom wireless connection going on 11.04
[01:53] <sumosu> xangua: flash drive will break?
[01:53] <agike> Hi, When installing Debian 6.0 and/or Ubuntu WattOS2 on my other partition I keep getting the GRUB msg "error: no such device: e93e [...], Entering rescue mode .. grub rescue>". Sourceforge tells me it is because grug.cfg contains "search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set e933[...]", and that the solution is "sudo abiword /usr/lib/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib" to comment out the last three lines of the paragraph including UUID. I have done that on Wa
[01:53] <agike> ttOS2 and Deb6 drives, but on trying 'sudo update-grub2' I keep getting "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: cannot find device for / (is dev mounted ?)". I have run out of ideas and cannot boot into the drive containing details of high-priority current projects. Any ideas ?
[01:53] <szal> Pb__: in my experience, "good" and "OCR" are mutually exclusive
[01:54] <FloodBot1> agike: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:54] <agike> Apologies.
[01:54] <szal> agike: WattOS2?
[01:54] <agike> yep
[01:55] <w30> Pb__, I have something called ocr on my Ubuntu 11.or but I haven't used it, sorry
[01:55] <szal> never heard of
[01:55] <IdleOne> neither of those OS'es are supported in this channel. Also, I never heard of WattOS2
[01:55] <szal> that's what I thought
[01:55] <IdleOne> agike: perhaps try in #debian
[01:55] <agike> IdleOne: It is a low-energy use ubuntu distro
[01:55] <szal> !pm | Pb__
[01:56] <IdleOne> agike: sound sinteresting but not an official derivative so not supported here
[01:56] <agike> I dual boot debian and WattOs ubuntu
[01:56] <hanasaki> how do you get the menus in gnome for ubuntu like those in mint?
[01:56] <Pb__> ok, understood
[01:57] <bfish> can anyone help with getting wireless going?  Broadcomm chipset on HP Pavilion dv6
[01:57] <rsvp> why does SKYPE crash so frequently these days ?? M$ ??
[01:57] <agike> IdleOne: .. intended originally for low-power specs such as netbooks. Otherwise, ubuntu
[01:57] <zykotick9> !broadcom | bfish
[01:57] <urlin2u> hanasaki, I don't think you can like mint.
[01:58] <zykotick9> hanasaki, urlin2u there was a PPA with the mint style menu at one time...
[01:58] <IdleOne> agike: I understand but still not an official derivative. Please try their support channel if they have one.
[01:58] <w30> szal, my best ocr work comes from doing very high resolution scans to start with.
[01:58] <hanasaki> zykotick9:  thanks... what does that style? is it gnome and theme or a special program
[01:58] <hanasaki> ?
[01:59] <w30> szal, otherwise it might as well be Pig Latin.
[01:59] <zykotick9> hanasaki, it's certainly more then just a theme
[01:59] <be2ruu> ls /dev/audio*    when i input in term it say no file
[01:59] <hanasaki> it is quite nice
[01:59] <bfish> ubottu, I did everything from the link, but the wireless is still not working (I just went to make sure that I'd tried that one)
[01:59] <propman> hanasaki:  might want to try asking in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[02:00] <xangua> hanasaki: the original 'mint like' menu is slab and you can find it as gnome-main-menu package
[02:00] <Pb__> well, anyone know easy-to-use OCR program ? OCRFeeder isn't simply enough for me.
[02:00] <urlin2u> zykotick9,  hanasaki was this one can't find it now.
[02:00] <xangua> at least in lucid
[02:00] <urlin2u> ppa:mscore-ubuntu/ppa
[02:00] <hanasaki> slab?
[02:00] <zykotick9> urlin2u, hanasaki not sure this applies anymore but http://www.webupd8.org/2010/05/install-linux-mint-main-menu-mintmenu.html
[02:00] <bfish> zykotick9, what is !broadcomm?
[02:01] <hanasaki> in natty
[02:01] <hanasaki>  aptitude search slab
[02:01] <hanasaki> p   libslab-dev                               - development file for libslab
[02:01] <hanasaki> p   libslab0a                                 - beautification app library file
[02:01] <FloodBot1> hanasaki: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:01] <xangua> !info gnome-main-menu natty
[02:01] <hanasaki> thanks
[02:01] <agike> #debian seems very quiet compared to #ubuntu  .. at the moment
[02:01] <zykotick9> bfish, !broadcom is a "factoid" i sent you, for some help with a particular bc wireless, sorry if you've done all that, i don't have any further suggestions.  Good luck.
[02:01] <nadiyama> Hi everybody, is there any stable ppa for open source drivers (e.g. mesa 7.11?)
[02:02] <bfish> zykotick9, thank you :(
[02:02] <Pondera> Im having a issue, i hope that someone could help or at least point me in the right direction. i have a fresh installation of the newest ubuntu,  when i start my computer it loads straight to the grub bootloader, when i load ubuntu all is well but when i load Windows 7 it just cycles back to  grub... does it everytime.
[02:03] <be2ruu> thanks pep
[02:03] <w30> agike, can you compare wattos with lubuntu, I tried Lubuntu on a hp netbook and it seems to work well. I  wonder if something else is better.
[02:03] <Pondera> And its a WUBU installation
[02:04] <pl0xy> Internet Scheme:   (ADSL-router) → switch / hub → "Ubuntu / router / firewall / vpn" → Wifi router → My pc  | The ubuntu pc has 2 network cards, and I not able to start sharing the internet with Firestarter  . can i get some help ?
[02:04] <urlin2u> Pondera, so hyou lost the ms boot menu?
[02:04] <xangua> Pondera: tried a real install¿
[02:05] <Pondera> urlin2uyes
[02:05] <Pondera> urlin2u yes, yes i did lol
[02:05] <urlin2u> Pondera, you need to reinstall the MS boot to the mbr, do you have a recovery or install windows disc?
[02:06] <heslam> hey guys. how can i free RAM up from caching harddruve data etc.? i am hitting a bad bit and getting segfaults so i need to keep my usage low.
[02:06] <Pb__> quit: bid you goodnight
[02:06] <Pondera> urlin2u, yes, i did the startup repair option  and it said it found nothing wrong
[02:07] <urlin2u> Pondera, boot to the repair terminal and run bootrec.exe /fixmbr
[02:07] <urlin2u> urlin2u, repair on the disc "windows"
[02:08] <programming> How do I reinstall all the dependencies of a package?
[02:08] <pl0xy> :'(
[02:09] <Pondera> urlin2u, Awsome let me go try it out, thanks for everything
[02:09] <urlin2u> Pondera, should work we will assume it brings back ubuntu
[02:15] <nuborn> anyone know when Java 1.7 will enter the repositories?
[02:15] <xangua> !latest | nuborn
[02:15] <aaas> is there a decent/recent howto for nvidia drivers on 11.04
[02:15] <XEV0LX>  /dns hate.fuck.e-sluts.net
[02:16] <urlin2u> !op
[02:16] <nuborn> xangua: ok, thanks, I didn't think about that.
[02:17] <XEV0LX> anyone know any cheap colos?
[02:17] <pl0xy> internet share fail
[02:22] <pl0xy> $5 us 2 paypal for private support ?
[02:22] <mangowerfer> lol
[02:23] <urlin2u> pl0xy, are you spamming?
[02:23] <programming> errr.
[02:23] <pl0xy> just looking for help
[02:23] <programming> Amarok was telling me that the problem was "python id3 plugin missing"
[02:23] <qin> pl0xy: Ditch firestarter, install bridge-util
[02:23] <programming> but it was libxine1-ffmpeg.
[02:24] <qin> pl0xy: To fill knowledege, read about transparent firewall
[02:24] <programming> apt-get install troll-filter
[02:25] <pl0xy> k , going to erace firestarter and then install bridge-util
[02:26] <nick> hello
[02:27] <mangowerfer> pl0xy: if no one answeres means that either no one knows or that those knowing are busy. ask later again. also nearly everybody in #ubuntu is here for fun/voluntary ... you won't reach anything with money... and considering, that most people here have some kind advanced tech knowledge or are higher educated 5$ get you nothing but shame :P
[02:27] <qin> pl0xy: I think there is Ubuntu help page for connection sharing. But, if your asdl have firewall, why do you need vpn, and extra firewall?
[02:27] <Hermies> any one know any thing about sound issues?
[02:27] <mangowerfer> pl0xy: oh, sorry didn't see the messages in the mean time...
[02:28] <mangowerfer> pl0xy: the statement about the 5$ is still vaild though :P
[02:28] <pl0xy> lolz
[02:29] <merlin_> i hope im in the right place
[02:29] <urlin2u> mangowerfer, asking if doesn't work ask the question. ;)
[02:30] <mangowerfer> ?
[02:30] <mangowerfer> ah, ok
[02:30] <urlin2u> mangowerfer, sorry
[02:30] <merlin_> well, can someone help me figure out how to use headphones on linux
[02:30] <merlin_> im using zorin os 5
[02:30] <urlin2u> Hermies, asking if doesn't work ask the question. ;)
[02:30] <mangowerfer> just had to read it twice ... herp derp :P
[02:31] <Hermies> looking for sound help please
[02:31] <xangua> merlin_: better try ubuntu ;)
[02:31] <mangowerfer> Hermies: what is your problem?
[02:31] <Hermies> im useing ubuntu and need sound help
[02:31] <Hermies> :(
[02:31] <merlin_> hmmm, you know i thought this was an ubuntu series. darn, i should go back to mint.
[02:31] <mangowerfer> i know that
[02:32] <mangowerfer> Hermies: what is your exact problem?
[02:32] <merlin_> so for now, what chat should i look up to fix the headphones issue, i just want to know for future reference
[02:33] <pl0xy> mangowerfer answer :)
[02:33] <qin> Is there any neat trick to "save" sshfs mounts on suspend, network drop, change of interface, etc?
[02:33] <zykotick9> merlin_, if Zorin doesn't have an IRC channel you could try ##linux
[02:33] <S4nD3r> I have driver i915 installed, but its not from xserver-xorg-video-intel, where is it from ??? How to remove it???
[02:33] <merlin_> sooo how do i do that now? sorry, it's been while
[02:34] <zykotick9> merlin_, "/join ##linux"
[02:34] <merlin_> cool beans
[02:34] <kingofswords> just installed playonlinux and doesnt open..any ideas
[02:34] <froes> hi guys. i have a blu-ray that a frind of mine gave me, he is a 3d animator, it is not blocked, i was wanting know if could rip it keeping full resolution and the 5.1 sound directly into avi-xvid. cheers
[02:34] <Hermies> allrighty so i had a rocket fish sound card and i just took it out and now i would like to get my onbord sound driver to work and ive yet to have a brake thro
[02:37] <Morgz> froes - i may be way off here, but I'm pretty sure there is a command that can raw-rip a device into an iso file, or at least the other way round.. dd?
[02:37] <Hermies> my find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd    http://pastebin.com/RKkLW1N5
[02:38] <szal> Morgz: that won't help much, I guess
[02:38]  * szal has no friggin' clue about Blu-ray
[02:39] <Shardvex> er help
[02:39] <Morgz> szal: Example use of dd command to create an ISO disk image from a CD-ROM:
[02:39] <Morgz> dd if=/dev/sr0 of=/home/sam/myCD.iso bs=2048 conv=noerror,sync ?
[02:40] <szal> Morgz: sure that, but with that you don't have an XviD-.avi ;)
[02:40] <maheanuu> How can I stop no activity time out when I am watching a video on the computer running Ubuntu
[02:41] <maheanuu> My screen saver comes up and then I have to log in again
[02:42] <Guest79535> im new at this ok i have no sound and ive taken out my sound card to get the onbord to work and its still no ive looked far and wide to get it working
[02:42] <Guest79535> im new ok
[02:42] <t1m310rd> does anyone know why the laptop monitor cannnot turn off. i cannot just use pc out or hdmi out to hdtv/
[02:42] <Lasers> maheanuu: I use Inhibit Applet.
[02:42] <froes> Morgz, but then it would be the same structure. not the simple avi file
[02:42] <szal> !sound | Guest79535
[02:43] <Guest79535> ive done all the trube shooters
[02:43] <maheanuu> Lasers, where would I find that applet
[02:43] <Lasers> maheanuu: 11.04? I'm not sure. Usually, it's found on the panels.
[02:43] <Guest79535> !sound
[02:44] <maheanuu> No I am running 10.10
[02:44] <Guest79535> that was still no help D:
[02:44] <mangowerfer> Guest79535: post your results
[02:44] <Guest79535> of what?
[02:44] <Lasers> maheanuu: Add a new applet to the panel. "Inhibit"
[02:44] <Lasers> maheanuu: Then toggle it on.
[02:45] <maheanuu> Lasers, where would I find the panels?
[02:46] <Lasers> maheanuu: Top/bottom panels? Are you using Gnome?
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[02:47] <mangowerfer> Guest79535: you said you went throgh the troubleshooting, but your card is still not working
[02:47] <Guest79535> yes ill get you thoise right now
[02:47] <mangowerfer> Guest79535: so ther must be a problem somewhere... one command or something, that is different from what they say on the webiste
[02:47] <mangowerfer> besite
[02:47] <mangowerfer> website
[02:48] <ryan_46> manheanuu did you just want the screensaver to stop forcing you to log in when the movie is playing?
[02:48] <mangowerfer> Guest79535: so tell me where your settings are not in line with the troubleshooting website
[02:48] <Guest79535> hold on
[02:49] <maheanuu> OK, I think I found it I looked under -system/preferences/screensaver and removed the check marks  for activate screen saver and also for lock computer when screen saver active gonna try it now and see what happens
[02:49] <ryan_46> right maheaunuu
[02:50] <maheanuu> The problem was that it would either bring up the screensaver and block the video and the sound would still be playing but I had to log back in to get the video back
[02:50] <Lasers> maheanuu: Disable the screensaver or use inhibit applet to prevent your computer from going to screensaver/standby mode.
[02:51] <maheanuu> lasers and Ryan I think I have it now
[02:51] <ryan_46> :) You got it
[02:52] <BBKZ> After installing ubuntu (wabu) i thought it would be smart to change my win7 boot option to just load to ubuntu partition, and now theres no way for me to get back in to windows... please help ?
[02:52] <maheanuu>  I will know tonight at present I gotta run wife is coming back from a weeks stay in Papeete at our new hospital and I have to go to our airport and pick her up
[02:53] <Jason75> I installed Xubuntu 11.04 a few days ago. Loving it so far, but for some reason I can't change my screen resolution.
[02:53] <maheanuu> I will come back in later if anyone is around and let you know how it goes
[02:53] <szal> BBKZ: try in ##windows please; we don't support Windows bootloaders
[02:53] <maheanuu> laters and thanks, sometimes I can't see the forest for the trees
[02:53] <Jason75> It's an older 17" Dell crt monitor and Intel integrated graphics chip.
[02:54] <Jason75> Only gives me one option...1024x768 and 0.0 for a refresh rate.
[02:55] <Jason75> Anyone?
[02:57] <Jason75> Any idea how to add more resolution options to Xubuntu?
[02:59] <mangowerfer> hi, is is possible to turn a ubuntu desktop isntall into a ubuntu server install?`
[02:59] <mangowerfer> hi, is is possible to turn a ubuntu desktop isntall into a ubuntu server install?
[02:59] <Hermies> allright im back with better info on my sound card
[02:59] <mangowerfer> ok
[02:59] <Hermies> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8eb417854ff8b538f15ad1d8ee1b710136c8c996
[02:59] <Hermies> http://pastebin.com/RKkLW1N5
[02:59] <Hermies> is all i came up with
[03:00] <Hermies> on my whole sound isshue
[03:00] <mangowerfer> hm
[03:00] <Jason75> All right, then.
[03:00] <Hermies> is that what you where looking for?
[03:00] <philipballew> mangowerfer, you can use the desktop as a server, but if you want a really serious server youd want a cli system
[03:02] <mangowerfer> philipballew: ok, thank you for the info (if i'd want a serious server i'd go for debian or redhat :P - no offence) :)
[03:02] <Axs> What do you guys recommend for remote desktop other than VNC? SSH?
[03:02] <mangowerfer> Hermies: give me "lspci -v | grep snd"
[03:02] <mangowerfer> -.-
[03:05] <agike> w30: pardon my ignorance .. what is lubuntu ?
[03:05] <IdleOne> !lubuntu
[03:06] <bazhang> agike, openbox + lxde
[03:06] <bazhang> agike, install lubuntu-desktop if you wish to try it
[03:07] <hermes> bazhang, do you know any thing about sound issues?
[03:07] <agike> w30: 'better' is a personal thing. WattOS4 has just been released - http://www.planetwatt.com/
[03:08] <dbelange> DON'T READ THIS CAUSE IT ACTUALLY WORKS. YOU WILL gET KISSED ON THE NEAREST POSSIBLE FRIDAY BY THE LOVE OF YOUR LIFE. TOMORROW WILL BE THE BEST DAY OF YOUR LIFE HOWEVER IF YOU DO NOT POST THIS COMMENT TO AT LEAST 3 CHANNELS YOU WILL DIE WITHIN 2 DAYS. NO UV STARTED READING THIS SO DUNT STOP.THIS IS SCARY.PUT THIS ON AT LEAST 5 CHANNELS IN 143 MINUTES. WHEN YOUR DONE PRESS F6 AND YOUR LOVERS NAME WILL
[03:08] <bazhang> hermes, you've been asked to post the results of your troubleshooting
[03:08] <dbelange> APPEAR ON THE SCREEN IN BIG LETTERS.THIS IS SO SCARY CAUSE IT ACTUALLYWOR
[03:08] <w30> agike, Lubuntu is promoted as light weight in hard drive usage and cpu reqirements suited to these cheap notebooks that can just barely run XP
[03:09] <hermes> i have but no one has responed ill post again   http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8eb417854ff8b538f15ad1d8ee1b710136c8c996        http://pastebin.com/RKkLW1N5
[03:10] <agike> bazhang, w30: it sounds as though WattOS and Lubuntu have a lot in common. Lxde, but not (I think) openbox
[03:11] <Silentmyst> hey guys, has anyone had a problem marking files as executable to run in wine? i click to check the box and it just auto unchecks itself instantly... not quite sure what to do
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> Silentmyst: is the file stored on an NTFS partition by any remote chance?
[03:11] <Silentmyst> yes
[03:12] <Silentmyst> i can move it back and forth
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> Silentmyst: You cannot run your windows apps on your dual boot system using Wine, it simply won't run
[03:12] <Silentmyst> i do it with alot of things
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> Silentmyst: you will need to remount your NTFS as setting ALL files as executable so that they are set. NTFS is too primitive to hold Linux file permissions
[03:13] <person> Hey, trying to use KVM to test kernel changes, but having a hard time. Tried following this http://blog.vmsplice.net/2011/02/near-instant-kernel-development-cycle.html , but not sure what to use for the initrd argument
[03:13] <Silentmyst> thats why i put it on my ntfs partition cause i can run things in wine off my ntfs partition and then when im in widows i just run it
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> Silentmyst: Unless the app is very portable it won't work. Apps need registry keys and file in the windows dir to run, otherwise they could be pirated so easily
[03:13] <hermes> bazhang: is that what everone is telling me to show?
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> Silentmyst: you will need to remount the NTFS and make it mount so that all files are executable
[03:14] <Silentmyst> the particular program im trying to run, runs out of its own folder w/dlls ect ect
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> Silentmyst: yes, its portable :)
[03:14] <noneabove1182> hey guys i was wondering if ubuntu 10.10 had a problem with radeon GPUs like 11.04 does, or if the problem will be fixed in 11.10? slash where do i find patch notes or future patch notes
[03:14] <w30> agike, getting the iso to wattos now to check it out, thanks
[03:15] <tightwork> person: should be able to find the corresponding initramfs from /boot/
[03:15] <Silentmyst> but... i'll move it and to linux partition and see if i can enable exe and run w/wine
[03:15] <Ubuntu> noneabove1182: 11.04 fixed my hd5770
[03:15] <Silentmyst> or remount
[03:15] <Silentmyst> thx
[03:16] <agike> w30: no probs, enjoy.
[03:16] <noneabove1182> Ubuntu weird cause with 11.04 i got black screen majority of times with my HD 6770M i think it is
[03:17] <Ubuntu> noneabove1182: is hd 6770M evergreen model?
[03:18] <noneabove1182> Ubuntu in some previous errors that i got with WUBI before installing with liveCD i remember seeing something about evergreen
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: try the boot option:  nomodeset
[03:19] <person> Tried this kvm -kernel arch/x86/boot/bzImage -initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.38-10-generic -append "console=ttyS0" -nographic and got a bunch of file not found errors, then it puts me into BusyBox
[03:19] <ram0042> I had ubuntu as my username. I thought it was the channel
[03:19] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip i already had but it didnt always work, either way i had to completely wipe my laptop because ubuntu ruined my windows partition
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: ok
[03:19] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: could also try using safe VGA until you get the proprietary driver in
[03:20] <triplc> hi all
[03:20] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip to be honest, im  not entirely sure what that means... haha
[03:20] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip will my graphics card be more likely to work with 11.04 or 10.10 ?
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: there is a bootoption doc online, your video card may not like the open driver on the cd so you can force it to use vesa and get sorted
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: not sure I dont use ati stuff
[03:21] <triplc> please suggest a battery monitor. i just install a slim (no gnome) ubuntu 10.04 but do not know what application for displaying/monitoring the battery. i installed "ibam" (as read from google) but when run, it say "no apm data available". maybe ibam is not ... please recommend an battery mon
[03:22] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip can you direct me to a site of where to learn about that ?
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> triplc: could use a gdesklet
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | noneabove1182 why don't you try websearching YOURSEFL some?
[03:23] <dangbarry> triplc, or a system tray such as trayer gnome-power-manager
[03:23] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip i just asked i could have myself but if you knew where to find it it would just save time...
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> noneabove1182: the link has the details
[03:24] <Hermies> ActionParsnip: since your active could you help me after?
[03:25] <noneabove1182> ActionParsnip thanks
[03:25] <triplc> ok thanks
[03:26] <triplc> hm...
[03:27] <RKyle> I don't know if this is a Ubuntu question but I can't completely get rid of MySQL and the error message is: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[03:28] <blacksunseven> Hi all; I've just installed the proprietary drivers for my onboard ATI card in 10.04 and, upon reboot, now get a black screen. what do?
[03:31] <propman> !nomodeset
[03:32] <dangbarry> hermies: your using the same card as I. here is my alsa.conf   http://pastebin.com/6ReuKnbV
[03:33] <blacksunseven> propman, alright, i'm trying that, restarting now
[03:33] <dangbarry> hermies, save that into home folder then run a diff between yours and mine!
[03:37] <Lusitan[o]> anybody awaken?
[03:38] <bazhang> Lusitan[o], yes
[03:39] <Lusitan[o]> i got a problem with my perl in ubuntu. i got a problem that running a program would not compile due to lack of tk.pm | so i installed via synaptic. now it has conflicts
[03:39] <Lusitan[o]> it is installed but undetected by apt-cache
[03:39] <Lusitan[o]> is it normal for synaptic to conflict with apt ?
[03:40] <Guest80231> !sound
[03:40] <blacksunseven> Nope, that didn't work =\
[03:42] <Bookman> I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 and I'm trying to create a live usb stick of Mint.  I'm using  the startup disk program but it won't let me select the .iso file.  It just defaults to a previously installed 11.04 beta iso that I burned some time ago
[03:43] <urlin2u> Bookman, try unetbootin it works on many.
[03:43] <seclm193> anyone know why DesktopNova stalls my desktop when changing wallpaper?
[03:43] <Bookman> I've tried unetbootin but it resulted in a non bootable image
[03:43] <blacksunseven> to re-iterate my problem since i had to restart: I've just installed the proprietary drivers for my onboard ATI card in 10.04 and, upon reboot, now get a black screen. what do?
[03:43] <blacksunseven> * jsurfer (~mdesales@c-69-181-202-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has left #ubuntu
[03:44] <blacksunseven> (terrible copy and paste there..)
[03:44] <edbian> blacksunseven: come in, see this, what do?   Have you tried recovery mode to remove the driver?
[03:44] <Atharva> Hi..Have installed Counter Strike 1.6 on VirtualBox 4.0.12.    The Game Starts but the mouse does not work properly.....Any idea ?
[03:44] <urlin2u> Bookman, did you reformat the thumb when you used unetbootion?
[03:45] <zac1256> hay who hast 11.04
[03:45] <seclm193> zac1256, i has 11.04
[03:45] <Bookman> urlin2u, no, I don't see that option
[03:45] <edbian> zac1256: I doth posses it
[03:46] <zac1256> well it sucks i am running 10.10
[03:46] <urlin2u> Bookman, right click the thumb and the reformat, also you might want to check the md5sum of the ISO.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[03:46] <edbian> zac1256: Do you have a support question?
[03:46] <urlin2u> *then
[03:46] <blacksunseven> edbian, i'm removing the driver right now
[03:47] <edbian> blacksunseven: Excellent
[03:47] <zac1256> ya y wont ubuntu start up an  a 24 core computer
[03:47] <seclm193> zac1256, have you tried running 11.04 in gnome classic?  it's how i run it
[03:47] <dangbarry> hermies, next http://pastebin.com/0ctkk93G save that in your home home as .asoundrc and try restarting the daemon!
[03:47] <ActionParsnip> zac1256: it can and will
[03:47] <urlin2u> Bookman, sorry right click the thumb then format.
[03:48] <Bookman> urlin2u, yeah tried that.  Still no go
[03:48] <urlin2u> Bookman, this is like kindergarden stuff bro.
[03:48] <ActionParsnip> fwiw the server kernel can handle up to 64 cores
[03:48] <Bookman> urlin2u, yup I know
[03:48] <Eryn_1983_FL> anybody use  stumpwm? i can't  get my bar to come up
[03:48] <urlin2u> ;)
[03:48] <Eryn_1983_FL> http://pastebin.com/83etWcmN
[03:49] <mcbtay> i have an ubuntu webserver, and i'm wanting to allow users to upload files to an img directory... what permissions do the script and the directory need to have?
[03:49] <ActionParsnip> mcbtay: how do the connect to get the upload feature of the server?
[03:49] <seclm193> mcbtay, i beleive it's 777
[03:49] <dangbarry> Eryn_1982_FL, no never, whats it like? im loving the new kde4
[03:49] <seclm193> mcbtay, might be wrong though
[03:49] <mcbtay> ActionParsnip, not sure what you're asking
[03:50] <Bookman> urlin2u, maybe you have to get to a high level to solve my issue?
[03:51] <mcbtay> seclm193, would the script need to have those permissions, or the folder? or both?
[03:51] <urlin2u> Bookman, I doubt it I can do it. ;-)
[03:51] <Bookman> urlin2u, it just won't burn correctly.  Or, more correctly it won't boot from what unetbootin burns
[03:51] <seclm193> mcbtay, i think just the script, but i'm not a 100% sure
[03:52] <urlin2u> Bookman, did you check the md5sum?
[03:52] <Bookman> Yup, it is fine
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> mvbwell, a webserver is a broadcast service, if your users want to upload, they will connect differently to a web page which you simply view
[03:52] <ActionParsnip> mcbtay: ^
[03:52] <urlin2u> Bookman, have you ever used unetbootin?
[03:52] <bobweaver> Hi there I am playing with my boot splash right now and having some troubles . I have a nvidia-current installed but it don't show up in lsmod only nouveau I tried to blacklist this Nothing stays loaded I try sudo rmmod nothing says it is running I drop x and still nothing
[03:52] <mcbtay> ActionParsnip, it's a PHP script, if that helps you?
[03:52] <Bookman> urlin2u, yes in the past I have
[03:53] <MagicJ> mcbtay: are you going to use the FILE type from a web page to upload - if so the issue is what permissins does your script thatreceives the file need
[03:53] <dangbarry> Eryn_1982_FL, there is an irc channel for stump on freenode #stumpwm
[03:53] <bobweaver> uname -a
[03:53] <bobweaver> Linux bob-Compaq-Presario-CQ60-Notebook-PC 3.0.1-030001-generic #201108060905 SMP Sat Aug 6 10:43:25 UTC 2011 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[03:53] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: oneiric support in #ubuntu+1
[03:53] <mcbtay> MagicJ, i'm using an HTML input of type file if that's what you mean? not too experienced here sorry :)
[03:53] <dangbarry> Eryn_1982_FL, thats prob the best place to ask!
[03:54] <methods> what is libpng3 supposed to be ?
[03:54] <theadmin> methods: A library for PNG support in many applications.
[03:54] <ActionParsnip> mcbtay: do they authenticate at all?
[03:54] <urlin2u> Bookman, here is another usb loader, use gparted to format the drive if you choose the multisystem app. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[03:54] <MagicJ> mcbtay:  then the issuoes is merely to set the permissions for the img directory sich that your script has write access.  To some degree this will depend what user the script runs as
[03:55] <MagicJ> mcbtay: if the script runs as a specific user then you will need to make sure that user has permots
[03:55] <yaaase> so, question:  I recently wiped Windows 7 and installed Ubuntu on my laptop.  However, I have noticed that DVDs play terribly (choppy, poor-quality, etc) in Ubuntu when they used to play beautifully in win7.  is this just a linux limitation?
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> yaaase: what video chip do you use?
[03:55] <dangbarry> yaaase, vlc
[03:55] <yaaase> ActionParsnip: what command will tell me?
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> yaaase: did you install the DVD decoder?
[03:55] <yaaase> dangbarry: vlc = ?
[03:56] <yaaase> ActionParsnip: yes, I did
[03:56] <methods> yea but there should only be 1.2 , 1.4 and the latest is 1.5 ... when i apt-cache search i only see libpng12 not even 14 .. both 1.2 and 1.4 are legacy.. 1.5.4 is the latest stable.. and as far as 1.3 I doin't even see that
[03:56] <methods> listed on the site.. also the ubuntu list for libpng3 doesnt' include a -dev package..  even looking at their ftp site I don't see a 1.3 ftp://ftp.simplesystems.org/pub/png/src/
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> yaaase: sudo lshw -C display     use a pastebin to host the text so you don't spam the channel
[03:56] <yaaase> ActionParsnip: I also then deleted (on ubuntu forums advice ~/.dvdcss
[03:56] <Bookman> urlin2u, I shall check that out, thanks!
[03:57] <urlin2u> Bookman, I use it with a 16 gig thumb it is a n=multibooter pretty cool.
[03:57] <yaaase> http://pastebin.com/j86VQ0BD
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> yaaase: what apps have you tried DVD playback in?
[03:58] <yaaase> ActionParsnip: just the default "Movie Player" so far
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> yaaase: are you using gnome desktop?
[03:58] <methods> theadmin:  ??
[03:58] <yaaase> ActionParsnip: yes - ubuntu (classic)
[03:58] <ActionParsnip> yaaase: try:  sudo apt-get install vlc gnome-mplayer
[03:58] <theadmin> methods: You asked what libpng is
[03:58] <theadmin> methods: I answered
[03:58] <methods> see my response above
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> yaaase: then try those, see if it's different
[03:59] <blacksunseven> Things aren't going well.
[03:59] <theadmin> methods: Oh, never mind then
[03:59] <b0whunter> ok
[03:59] <blacksunseven> I've removed the driver and run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to generate a new xorg.conf
[03:59] <yaaase> ActionParsnip: ty, installing now.  what will they be called (if I alt/f2 to them)?
[03:59] <blacksunseven> But I'm still getting a black screen
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> yaaase: as I wrote above...
[03:59] <blacksunseven> also, xorg.conf is empty...
[04:00] <edbian> blacksunseven: How sure are you the correct driver is loading?  (the open source one)
[04:00] <edbian> blacksunseven: also this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen
[04:01] <methods> theadmin:    This is a dummy package provided for compatibility purposes. Please use libpng12-dev instead. 	
[04:01] <methods> I'm at a loss
[04:01] <methods> libpng3  This package is superseded by libpng12-0, and is provided only for transitional purposes.
[04:01] <kieppie> hi all. I run mostly an Ubuntu/Debian network, & a pfSense firewall. I'm looking for a way of specifying my apt-cache proxy in the DHCP options. any ideas, please?
[04:02] <blacksunseven> edbian, not too sure, i just know the ati one isnt become i removed it through hardware drivers in system>admin.
[04:02] <yaboo> can I stillrun gnome2 on 11.04
[04:02] <yaboo> unity is woeful
[04:02] <methods> is ubuntu ever going to provide libpng14 or 15 ?
[04:03] <edbian> blacksunseven: There are 3 drivers,  radeon (open source), fglrx (proprietary), ati (which is just a wrapper and will load fglrx)
[04:03] <zykotick9> kieppie, i don't think a dhcp server can provide info for apt.conf
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> yaboo: Natty uses gnome 2
[04:03] <ActionParsnip> methods: you may find a ppa
[04:03] <kieppie> zykotick9: thanks. I'm not familiar enough with DHCP & it's options to make that call
[04:03] <blacksunseven> edbian, how can i see which one i'm using?
[04:03] <yaboo> Acthanks
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> yaboo: if you think Unity is a replacement desktop for gnome then you are misinformed
[04:04] <edbian> blacksunseven: lsmod | grep "drivername" or sudo lspci -k   (and look through the list)
[04:04] <methods> i don't want to find one i just want to know what's going on because it's such an old version
[04:04] <yaboo> ActionParsnip, we just installed here at work, and know, there is no way management will allow people to use unity
[04:04] <blacksunseven> 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS880 [Radeon HD 4200]
[04:04] <blacksunseven> 	Kernel modules: radeon
[04:05] <Internetinator> Yeah, you can still use gnome 2 with 11.04
[04:05] <edbian> blacksunseven: in lspci the 'kernel modules' list is driver that are available.  the 'drivers list' is the driver this is actually being used.  in linux modules = drivers
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> methods: if it works then its fine, if there are security reasons, dependancy or other significant reasons it will get added
[04:05] <yaboo> Internetinator, thanks
[04:05] <ActionParsnip> yaboo: then change DE or log off and log in to Ubuntu Classic, Unity2D will replace Classic in Oneiric
[04:06] <yaboo> installed 10.10 desktop looks good, updated to11.04 and unity,is just not there for us
[04:06] <Internetinator> When you log in, just select Ubuntu Classic from the session thing
[04:06] <cyberwave> why are there three floodbots?
[04:06] <yaboo> understand the theory, but not yet
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> cyberwave: so peole don't spam the channel with pastes
[04:06] <blacksunseven> edbian, so no driver is in use?
[04:06] <cyberwave> but don't you need only one flood bot?  why are there three?
[04:06] <ActionParsnip> yaboo: there is more than gnome to use for the DE
[04:07] <yaboo> ActionParsnip, DE?
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> cyberwave: not sure there personally :)
[04:07] <edbian> blacksunseven: If there is no 'drivers' list then yeah no driver.  There is probably some really low level basic driver that just shows text or something
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> yaboo: desktop environment = DE
[04:07] <than_rua> i don't know, i use Gnome 3 on kubuntu 11.04, will type on Gnome must use key space...
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> yaboo: KDE, LXDE, Gnome etc
[04:07] <yaboo> ActionParsnip, thanks
[04:07] <blacksunseven> edbian, yeah, no drivers list
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> yaboo: in Linux you have choice, you don't have to use Unity
[04:08] <edbian> blacksunseven: That makes sense to me.  I would just sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon   (to install the radeon driver) and then s
[04:08] <yaboo> ActionParsnip, thanks go back to classic, assume gnome2, same desktop as 10.10
[04:08] <millertimek1a2m3> hey, what kind of application can I use to set up a wiki server?"
[04:08] <edbian> blacksunseven: and then reboot
[04:09] <edbian> blacksunseven: usually one can 'sudo modprobe <driverName>' to turn a driver on but that doesn't work with video cards
[04:09] <methods> ActionParsnip:  would be nice to know what reasons.. i got people complaining to me that my game is linked against 1.2 when it's being fazed out by many other distributions..
[04:09] <Bookman> urlin2u, I'm trying my first burn now with this program
[04:09] <blacksunseven> edbian, apt didn't do anything since it thinks its already installed - should i remove and re-install?
[04:09] <edbian> blacksunseven: no that's fine, sudo modprobe radeon to try to get it to be used. then restart (what modules were listed?)
[04:11] <blacksunseven> edbian, modprobe doesn't appear to have loaded the module
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> methods: not sure there dude, you may fnid a ppa with it on which you can update with. Its all I can personally suggest. Maybe others can advise
[04:11] <urlin2u> Bookman, cool hope it works.
[04:11] <blacksunseven> the only module listed is "radeon"
[04:11] <mark49> Hi! Does someone know if the "invisible mouse pointer after suspend" bug has been crushed in Natty?
[04:11] <edbian> blacksunseven: no, it won't immediately.  run the modprobe then restart
[04:11] <blacksunseven> oh, ok, doing now
[04:11] <blakebrinkley> hello! I was wondering if anyone could help me fix a grub error on 11.04
[04:11] <edbian> blacksunseven: If I knew radeon was installed I would not have had you install it again :P
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> mark49: if you rmmod then modprobe the mouse driver, does it reappear?
[04:12]  * edbian is confused....
[04:12] <millertimek1a2m3> nevermind found mediawiki
[04:13] <paijem-cantik> :d
[04:13] <mark49> ActionParsnip: sorry, I'm to n00b to follow your question...
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> mark49: use a terminal to unload and load the module driving the mouse
[04:15] <blacksunseven> edbian, no good, same output/problems
[04:15] <blacksunseven> edbian, do i need to have X running for a driver to load?
[04:15] <edbian> blacksunseven: I'm confused.  Are you in recovery mode right now?  I noticed to reboot you had to leave the IRC room.
[04:15] <edbian> blacksunseven: no, a driver being loaded should allow X to run.
[04:16] <blakebrinkley> Hello?
[04:16] <blacksunseven> so I can remote to my computer and work on it through ssh and such (which is where my xchat is running)
[04:16] <mark49> !BlueMeenie Stephen Baxter - Destiny's Children 1 - Coalescent (v2.0) (htm, jpg).rar
[04:17] <mark49> :)
[04:17] <theadmin> mark49: lolwut?
[04:17] <Axs> is there any awy to create virtual monitors? I run Ubuntu on an ESXi machine and when I VNC in I want it to appear as if I have two monitors
[04:17] <Eryn_1983_FL> dangbarry:  if you are loging kde4 then  this won't work for ya lol its a tiling  desktop manager
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> blacksunseven: yes, simply connect with:  ssh -X -C username@server
[04:17] <edbian> blacksunseven: you can ssh to the machine and should see some driver via lspci -k   or lsmod regardless of if X is actually running.  I'm confused though. If you're only sshing to the machine how do you know that you have a black screen?
[04:17] <mark49> ok. I get that rmmod removes the driver
[04:17] <blacksunseven> no, i'm not only sshing, i've got it running on another monitor
[04:17] <mark49> but... How is it named?
[04:17] <blakebrinkley> am I in the wrong place to ask for help?
[04:17] <blacksunseven> ActionParsnip, thanks but I'm already doing that :P
[04:17] <mark49> let's man rmmod...
[04:17] <edbian> blacksunseven: ok.  So, have you tried nomodeset?
[04:18] <dangbarry> Eryb_1983_FL, for tiling i use DWM.
[04:18] <blacksunseven> edbian, yes, it's been set since i started the troubleshooting
[04:18] <edbian> blacksunseven: Then I'm not sure.  I can recommend you ask in #radeon or somemore in here
[04:18] <blacksunseven> ok edbian, i appreciate the help
[04:18] <edbian> blacksunseven: They will almost def ask for your /var/log/X.org log
[04:19] <switch10_> I lost the clock/calendar applet in the upper right hand corner.  I cant figure out how to get it back in unity.  11.04
[04:19] <dangbarry> Eryb_1983_FL, i don't use KDM, i use slim
[04:19] <Eryn_1983_FL> slim?
[04:19] <Eryn_1983_FL> KDE i mean
[04:20] <dangbarry> display manager
[04:20] <Eryn_1983_FL> i am using xdm on all of mine right now i just want the darn bar to  show up and for my groups to be  created and mode my windows to em..
[04:21] <Eryn_1983_FL> sigh and I can't seem to figure it out
[04:21] <dangbarry> Eryb_1983_FL, KDE is the desktop environment, the display manager KDE uses is KDM i replaced KDM with slim and login through that!
[04:22] <paijem-cantik> yeah :d
[04:24] <switch10_> can anyone tell me how to get the time back on the top panel, 11.04??
[04:24] <Eryn_1983_FL> hey peeps  how do i get the cool wifi stuff in gnome to work in another  WM/DM?
[04:25] <theadmin> Eryn_1983_FL: nm-applet? Just run it in your DE
[04:25] <dangbarry> Eryb_1983_FL, Like nm-applet
[04:25] <Internetinator> whats the keyboard shortcut to switch to another workspace
[04:25] <theadmin> Internetinator: Ctrl+Alt+arrows
[04:25] <dangbarry> you need to use a system tray for that!
[04:25] <Internetinator> thanks
[04:25] <mrdeb> is system tray gone now
[04:25] <luoshu> use gonme classic
[04:25] <Eryn_1983_FL> and this is where i go..  so wish that bar worked so it could dock stuff..
[04:25] <flametai1> theadmin, where's the easy button for that answer? lol
[04:26] <theadmin> flametai1: What?
[04:26] <Eryn_1983_FL> ty theadmin. dangbarry
[04:26] <dangbarry> Eryb_1983_FL, yeah if the dock has a tray! check out trayer!
[04:27] <flametai1> theadmin, he asked a simple question, so I asked where's the easy button from staples lol
[04:27] <Eryn_1983_FL> #yeah
[04:27] <ru6yxx> is there anyway I can make the header at the top of this chat page disappear? I am a bit short sighted and it takes up too much space
[04:27] <Lasers> ru6yxx: What program?
[04:27] <ru6yxx> chatzilla
[04:28] <Lasers> That's in Firefox? (extension)
[04:28] <ru6yxx> Yes
[04:29] <mark49> @search baxter evolution
[04:29] <Lasers> ru6yxx: Dunno. I don't even know if it's a real client -- but it can do the job though.
[04:29] <mark49> @search Evolution
[04:29] <dangbarry> ru6yxx, or xchat! you can turn it off it the preferences
[04:30] <ru6yxx> Thanks done it
[04:31] <theadmin> mark49: Stop this.
[04:32] <Polah> How can I get Bluefish to stop creating <filename>~ files every time I edit something.
[04:32] <dangbarry> save it and exit corrextly
[04:33] <meegooo> hey I got questions about patching and compiling
[04:34] <Polah> dangbarry: It makes it as soon as I open a file to edit and nothing is ever done to remove it.
[04:34] <zykotick9> Polah, (UNTESTED) Bluefish - Edit / Preferences - Files - uncheck "Create backup files during file save". would be my guess.
[04:35] <robbmunson> zykotick9, TESTED: You're right. :)
[04:35] <dangbarry> Polah, i don't use bluefish, i use vim, vim does this when i have a file i am editing that has not been saved.
[04:35] <zykotick9> robbmunson, thanks ;)
[04:36] <Polah> zykotick9, yeah, that sorted it. Don't know how I missed that before
[04:37] <Polah> dangbarry: Never used vim, used vi and I've never seen it do that.
[04:39] <dangbarry> Polah, but you can turn it off in the vimrc
[04:41] <theadmin> dangbarry: You can :set nobackup
[04:41] <theadmin> dangbarry: And :set nowritebackup
[04:41] <theadmin> dangbarry: That'd stop it
[04:42] <dangbarry> theadmin:  I already have that done!
[04:42] <dangbarry> ty anyway!
[04:42] <theadmin> dangbarry: I also find it useful to :set nu, but that's up to you xD
[04:42] <ananda> hello
[04:43] <dangbarry> set nu, i don't have that done, whats that do?
[04:43] <theadmin> dangbarry: Line numbers
[04:43] <dangbarry> oh right, yeah.. done!
[04:43] <paijem-cantik> hello ananda
[04:43] <paijem-cantik> :d
[04:43] <paijem-cantik> welcome
[04:43] <ananda> thank you
[04:43] <dangbarry> theadmin, what pluggins do you use?
[04:44] <ananda> anyone here from outside the us?
[04:44] <dangbarry> yea
[04:44] <yaboo> have a issue with the monitor only does 1024x768, how can I get it too 1280x1024@60hz
[04:45] <dangbarry> anada, yeah!! prob tonnes! y?
[04:45] <theadmin> dangbarry: None to be honest
[04:45] <paijem-cantik> ananda: yeah...
[04:45] <ru6yxx> yaboo:  I have the same problem too.
[04:45] <theadmin> dangbarry: Well, sometimes I use Cream, which is a "friendly" frontend to Vim
[04:45] <ananda> where are you from paijem?
[04:46] <theadmin> !offtopic | ananda, paijem-cantik
[04:46] <theadmin> Oops
[04:46] <theadmin> Oh right.
[04:46] <dangbarry> theadmin:  awh i could not go back not using some of the plugins! such as snippets
[04:46] <ananda> oh sorry, i didnt know
[04:46] <qin> ananda: /whois is neat irc command preventing some questions.
[04:46] <theadmin> dangbarry: Ah, well... I dunno to be honest, I'm fine the way it is
[04:47] <paijem-cantik> ananda : i'm come from east nation :d
[04:48] <dangbarry> theadmin:  coo!
[04:50] <yaboo> ru6yxx, guess need to sort out the x config
[04:51] <dangbarry> the xconfig! read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[04:52] <ru6yxx> yaboo: I am no admin, it seems by saying I have the same problem, I have diverted the attention of the admins from your question
[04:54] <dangbarry> ru6yxx, im no admin!
[04:54] <yaboo> ru6yxx, thanks
[04:55] <ru6yxx> lol
[04:55] <ru6yxx> ok
[05:05] <Polah> Could someone link me to the article regarding virtual memory being at least four times larger than physical RAM or suchlike?
[05:06] <apoage> hi just one question, is there any way to emulate input device i in way of translating input events in to the usb/bt port connected to another device.. (just want to connect pc and ps3 and play with mouse) im just unable to specify question for google .. well and on ubuntu:D
[05:08] <dangbarry> Polah, read the first chapter about the linux kernel!
[05:08] <bazhang> !swap > Polah
[05:08] <Lasers> Polah: That's only if you want to use swap.
[05:10] <beautifulmind> I have installed ubuntu 10.04 and my motherboard is DH61DL. ubuntu is not detecting NIC. I have tried with installing the driver from motherboard CD but its throwing error like config.<something> is not found.
[05:10] <beautifulmind> any help will be highly appreciated
[05:11] <dangbarry> beautifulmind: thats because it prob a windows disk!
[05:12] <beautifulmind> dangbarry: the disk has drivers for linux
[05:12] <beautifulmind> and instructinos a well
[05:12] <bullgard4_> beautifulmind: NIC - negative impedance converter, or what?
[05:12] <dangbarry> beautifulmind: what network card is it!?
[05:13] <beautifulmind> Network Interface Card!
[05:13] <bazhang> bullgard4_, network interface card
[05:13] <beautifulmind> its on-board NIC, motherboard is from intel
[05:13] <bullgard4_> bazhang: Thank you.
[05:14] <dangbarry> beautifulmind: wierd, what motherboard is it?
[05:14] <beautifulmind> its DH61DL
[05:14] <EnigmaticCoder> Is it dangerous to run sudo gnome-terminal -x echo "test" instead of gksudo gnome-terminal ...?
[05:14] <beautifulmind> and processor is i3- version 2
[05:14] <propman> it's the one he's already mentioned lol
[05:15] <Cpt_Zyph> anyone have a solid link on the different things that can be added to this new unity launcher? can it have things similar to awn launcher ..
[05:16] <dangbarry> beautifulmind: i never seen this problem before... try opening a terminal and typing ifconfig!
[05:16] <Lasers> !gksudo | EnigmaticCoder
[05:16] <Lasers> EnigmaticCoder: You shouldn't use sudo or gksudo on terminal though.
[05:16] <Lasers> (to call terminal)
[05:16] <beautifulmind> dangbarry: with ifconfig, its not showing the mac address
[05:16] <EnigmaticCoder> Hmmm, ty
[05:16] <beautifulmind> I have also tried lshw and the NIC is unclaimed
[05:18] <beautifulmind> upgrading to 11.x will fix the issue?
[05:19] <dangbarry> beautifulmind: give it a go!
[05:19] <beautifulmind> okay
[05:19] <beautifulmind> Thank you very much to all of you
[05:20] <EnigmaticCoder> Lasers: How do you run a script that has some terminal commands needed to be run as root and some graphical commands (i.e. zenity message box)?
[05:20] <virtutea> Hi all. ive succesfully installed the 3.0 kernel on my VM (3.0.0-0300rc2-generic) but i cannot choose the older one on grub
[05:21] <EnigmaticCoder> Is there an inverse-sudo. I.e. lower privledges for some commands?
[05:22] <EnigmaticCoder> i.e. in a script
[05:23] <Lasers> EnigmaticCoder: #bash
[05:24] <agike> w30: how did you find WattOs4 ?
[05:26] <ixntb1__> hi, i got compaq 435 laptop with ubuntu installed, but got a problem with internal speaker
[05:26] <ixntb1__> anyone know to solve?
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> ixntb1__: we don't know the issue as you haven't told us, so currently - no
[05:27] <ewww> eth0: Detected Hardware Unit Hang:  <---- what this is error all about? how do i fix this?
[05:27] <ixntb1__> ActionParsnip: i cant use my built in speaker, but once i use headset, it works
[05:28] <gogeta> ixntb1__: is  it a hp thers a hardware defect
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> ixntb1__: ok can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[05:29] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: hp laptops have a defect there the headphone jack become stuck on
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> ewww: if you then modprobe the driver module, does it start working?
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: hmmmm, does model=hp   fix it?
[05:29] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: dunno but there is some hacks that force the sound card to ignoe that
[05:30] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: even for linux
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: lets see what the script says :)
[05:30] <Imrac> I ran remastersys on my server install to create a live CD, I have a custom TTY1.conf script, it is still correct in the squash file, but when I boot off the CD, it changes the TTY1.conf file. Anyway to stop this?
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> ixntb1__: there is an option to upload to the server, it will make a URL. What is the URL made?
[05:31] <bazhang> Imrac, check the remastersys forums and documents?
[05:33] <ixntb1__> ActionParsnip: you may check it at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=3256f3a27924abbedcb8a28535c6b0447c9d4695
[05:33] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: i would assume if his system has that defect they would warrenty ut
[05:34] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: hp HA!
[05:34] <ixntb1__> gogeta: i have two same laptops and it experiencing the same thiing
[05:35] <uw_> hi gamepad question.  how can i set up my controller to play games?
[05:35] <uw_> i cant find where to configure it
[05:35] <uw_> ubuntu 10.04
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: sure but an old alsa version
[05:35] <ActionParsnip> ixntb1__: sec
[05:35] <gogeta> ixntb1__: hp hsa defect in the 3,5mm headphone jack the pin gets stuck forcing your headphones to always on
[05:35] <uw_> gamepad doesnt show up in my emulator
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> ixntb1__: http://pastebin.com/K2dqtebh
[05:36] <ActionParsnip> uw_: which gamepad?
[05:36] <gogeta> ixntb1__: its a safe to bet it effects your windows machines to does it not
[05:37] <teavirtus> hi all, i have a problem: i've installed kernel 3.0, but Grub is not coming up showing me the older one, it just start with the 3.0
[05:37] <uw_> ActionParsnip, i believe this one "Bus 001 Device 013: ID 0810:0001 Personal Communication Systems, Inc. "
[05:37] <uw_> where would that normally show up?
[05:37] <ixntb1__> ActionParsnip: thanks mate, will give a try
[05:37] <uw_> i have had it working on here before a year or so ago
[05:38] <uw_> ActionParsnip, is there a drop down under system to configure this?
[05:38] <uw_> or something like that?
[05:38] <urlin2u> teavirtus, have you run sudo update-grub
[05:39] <teavirtus> sure and it looks fine : Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-0300rc2-generic
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> uw_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/111146
[05:39] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: i happoned to knoe that being my buddys labby has the defect he used usb speakers for a long time. but finnly found a way to bypass the stuck jack
[05:39] <ixntb1__> ActionParsnip: what is actually i missed?
[05:39] <urlin2u> teavirtus, so at the grub menu you get the 3.0?
[05:40] <teavirtus> no no grub menu at all :(
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> ixntb1__: you need to get an update to alsa, the command I gave in the pastebin when ran in a terminal will upgrade you
[05:40] <urlin2u> teavirtus, so you v=can't boot?
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> teavirtus: we can't support 3rd party kernels
[05:41] <ixntb1__> ActionParsnip: should i restart it first?
[05:41] <ixntb1__> ActionParsnip: it didnt work out :(
[05:41] <uw_> is this applicable to 2.6.32-24?  (what i'm running)
[05:42] <uw_> if you arent sure thats ok thanks for trying anyway
[05:42] <uw_> was just curious if anyone on here randomly had that problem
[05:43]  * gogeta has random server fires 
[05:43] <widewake> hello, recently my browsing speed has been cut in half, my page loading via mozilla and other applications are taking minutes too long.. no idea what it could be, i have full bars
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> ixntb1__: no need, should be ready to rock
[05:44] <linuxuz3r> hi widewake
[05:44] <widewake> linuxuz3r,  hello :)
[05:45] <linuxuz3r> widewake, have you tried resetting your modem and getting a new ip?
[05:45] <ixntb1__> ActionParsnip: any special sound config i should do?
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> uw_: not sure, let me search some more
[05:46] <widewake> test
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> ixntb1__: is the sound device set as the correct device in sound prefs?
[05:46] <widewake> linuxuz3r,  yes ive tried, and im also sharing this connection with others, they have not experienced the connection being slow
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> uw_: http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php?topic=423913.0  maybe
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> uw_: http://www.archlinux.it/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=47836
[05:48] <linuxuz3r> widewake, have you tried it in other os or is ubuntu your only os thats doing that?
[05:48] <widewake> linuxuz3r,  im only using ubuntu 10.10
[05:48] <linuxuz3r> ok
[05:49] <linuxuz3r> widewake, have you tried speed test in your browser to see if your connection is up to speed
[05:49] <widewake> linuxuz3r,  have not
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> widewake: if you change DNS, is it faster?
[05:50] <widewake> ActionParsnip, not sure how too? do you mean change IP ?
[05:50] <ActionParsnip> widewake: you can test by running:  gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf    deleting ALL text and adding:  nameserver 8.8.8.8
[05:51] <soreau> Hey guys, my time in gnome-panel is one hour ahead for some reason on one of my machines. The time zone is correct and it's set to update from the internet, but it's been like this for a few days now
[05:51] <soreau> just started last week
[05:51] <celestial> hi everyone anyone know how to install and use the gnome volume manager and applet in lxde
[05:51] <ActionParsnip> widewake: save the new file, close gedit then test the web
[05:51] <theadmin> soreau: DST problems?
[05:52] <soreau> I can't even manually change it
[05:52] <soreau> it just goes back again :P
[05:52] <widewake> ActionParsnip,  should that make a difference in speed?
[05:52] <soreau> theadmin: Probably..
[05:53] <soreau> theadmin: Where are DST settings for this thing?
[05:53] <linuxuz3r> widewake, i think so
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> widewake: I've tried it on launchpad and it has. Very strange
[05:53] <theadmin> soreau: Wish I'd remember. I haven't used Gnome for a few months now
[05:53] <soreau> theadmin: Ok well I have to go to sleep an hour ago ;)
[05:53] <soreau> good night
[05:54] <theadmin> soreau: Night.
[05:54] <Internetinator> So how do I get permission to view the root of my computer
[05:54] <widewake> im not fully sure, but it seems as if my browser is responding quicker
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> Internetinator: just run:  nautilus /     and it will show the root of the file system
[05:56] <widewake> i think it might ^_^ i'll keep messing around. thanks guys
[05:57] <feng_> I use vim + ctags in ubuntu Linux to browse source code, when there are more than one implement , say ioremap,  the vim just give the first implement , not giving a list of implement like in fedora. Why?
[05:57] <dangbarry> hey, I was wondering if anyone thinks that the following are security issue:  .bashrc .xinitrc and all .sh files. for example    echo "chromium lemonparty.org" >> .bashrc"  same with any .sh or .xinitrc.. by the way don't not go onto that website, its visually distrubing! last time it was (a bastard friend).. you could do other things like download from git, or wgets. and run them through .sh bashrc .xinitrc. This is easy stopped, by changing the premissions "
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> dangbarry: you can change permissions if you are concerned
[05:59] <dangbarry> i did!
[06:00] <susundbe1g> Yeah, and they are not ment for 'public editing' -- i mean they are ment for running commands, that is the designed property. You cannot change that ..
[06:00] <dangbarry> but should the not be by default!
[06:00] <ActionParsnip> dangbarry: log a bug if you suspect one
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> dangbarry: ".sh files" doesn't mean much in linux either ;)
[06:03] <dangbarry> its not that thing this is a bug, quite the opposite. i love the fact that we can do tonnes of things through these files. does nobody think that they should be read only?
[06:03] <susundbe1g> No? They are ment for editing?
[06:04] <dangbarry> But i mean to edit them, require sudo!
[06:04] <susundbe1g> i mean your $home/.bashrc should not be writable (or maybe even readable) for some other user but for your self sure
[06:04] <susundbe1g> well /etc/ stuff should require sudo and they afaik do
[06:04] <susundbe1g> but stuff in your /home/ is ment for user editing, and should not require sudo
[06:05] <envygeeks> everything in /etc/ is readable except for system user files (passwd, groups, shadow)
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> susundbe1g: the aliases in ~/.bashrc can be poisoned maliciously as dangbarry states
[06:05] <dangbarry> well, if you had friends like have!
[06:05] <johndo> If I was that paranoid wouldn't it just be easier to encrypt my home directory?
[06:05] <dangbarry> perhaps!
[06:06] <SinnerNyx> ok so I have a VM that I move around alot. When I do I need to reset the network interface names (because it detects the adapter on the new machine as a new adapter). To reset it I empty /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and restart the VM. Does this have any negative effects? Should I be doing this another way?
[06:06] <envygeeks> SinnerNyx: no as it should be regenerated automatically by the system
[06:07] <envygeeks> SinnerNyx: by that I mean it's not negative
[06:07] <BTH> Hello, everyone!
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> johndo: no as the data is decrypted and fully editable by the logged in user
[06:08] <envygeeks> ActionParsnip: only the user that the folder is encrypted to, not just /any/ user, so your point is moot
[06:08] <feng_>  I use vim + ctags in ubuntu Linux to browse source code, when there are more than one implement , say ioremap,  the vim just give the first implement , not giving a list of implement like in fedora. Why?
[06:08] <feng_> can anybody answer my question?
[06:09] <SinnerNyx> thx envygeeks
[06:10] <dangbarry> feng_: go to vims freenode channel #vim
[06:11] <dangbarry> feng_: perhaps they can answer you there!
[06:12] <ActionParsnip> envygeeks: sure, but an unwitting user may run a script, or a javascript applet may be ran by a user and edit his/her file.
[06:12] <|newbie|> ciao a tutti
[06:12] <|newbie|> !lista
[06:13] <Syria> Hello there, I am trying to install Meerkat 10.10 on my desktop using an external hard disk but I get a message that says "unable to find a medium that contains live file system" Md5 is okay ! and I have used usb startup disc creator.
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> envygeeks: not moot in any way
[06:13] <pato> hello
[06:13] <starlon> how can I figure out which device I need to change permissions on so I can use Wireshark to analyze communications?
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> hi pato
[06:13] <ActionParsnip> starlon: sudo lshw -C network
[06:13] <robbmunson> !hi | pato
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> robbmunson: that was removed, it was deemed too impersonal
[06:14] <pato> sorry to bother everyone. I got this message on my virtual machine, just now, and I have no idea what it means.
[06:14] <pato> cifs vfs: rsize 32768 too large using maxbufsize
[06:14] <pato> I tried to google for an answer, but not many available
[06:14] <robbmunson> ActionParsnip, showing my age, lol.
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> robbmunson: yeah I was kinda freaked when I saw it missing too :)
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> pato: what are you doing to cause the message?
[06:16] <pato> ActionParsnip: Well, the VM was completely locked up. I had to kill the kvm process and restart the machine. when I checked the console to see if it was back up again I saw that error
[06:18] <damno> compiz key bindings for commands aren't working.. :-/
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> pato: mentions rsize https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cifs-utils/+bug/810606
[06:18] <envygeeks> ActionParsnip: every engine that could parse that javascript file has protections that prevent that, even in a home directory.
[06:19] <pato> ActionParsnip: let me read it.
[06:19] <damno> compiz key bindings for commands aren't working.. :-/
[06:19] <gry> damno, did they work before?
[06:19] <damno> yes
[06:19] <damno> gry: yes
[06:19] <gry> damno, when did they stop working?
[06:19] <damno> right now.. when I tried adding one more
[06:20] <gry> if you remove it, do they work again?
[06:21] <Syria> Unable to find a medium that contains live file system ubuntu ! what is this?
[06:21] <damno> gry: once I add them and try pressing the key nothing happens. once I quit ccsm and open it again the key bindings aren't there.. like nothing was assigned.
[06:23] <cyphase> how can i install python 2.5.2 on natty alongside 2.7?
[06:23] <envygeeks> cyphase: you compile your own python and name the binary and all it's folders python2.5
[06:24] <cyphase> envygeeks, besides that :). preferably a repo..
[06:24] <envygeeks> afaik python2.5 is dead, everyone is moved to 2.6
[06:24] <envygeeks> or (rarely) 3
[06:25] <pato> ActionParsnip: I think I found the case based on that post. I am guessing the windows backend is not playing along sometimes, and the cifs mount has too big of a parameter. I'll see if I reconfigure that mount point and fix the problem. Thank you for your help on this.
[06:30] <SubjectOne> goodmorning
[06:31] <linuxuz3r> im out
[06:35] <liul> hello
[06:38] <yaboo> I wish to modify the xorg.conf config or what is it now so I can get the extra resolutions on my monitor
[06:44] <alter> оксана
[06:45] <johndo> niet
[06:45] <yaboo> I seem not to have a xorg.conf, is there different way for 11.04
[06:45] <fr500> yaboo: it's mostly autoconfigured now
[06:46] <fr500> yaboo: but you can create it anyway afaik
[06:47] <johndo> I tried it with the bodhilinux fork by doin g X -configure though and it broke the display settings.
[06:48] <johndo> it went from low resolution to no resolution
[06:49] <Dopeamin> hello
[06:49] <flametai1> Anyone know any really good websites for themes? =/
[06:50] <johndo> opendesktop.org
[06:51] <gry> !theme
[06:51] <gry> flametai1: ^
[06:51] <flametai1> Thank you gry :D
[06:52] <oisgam> hello there
[06:52] <gry> flametai1: Sure.
[06:52] <gry> oisgam: Hi!
[06:53] <oisgam> hey guys i'm new user of ubuntu and i was wondering if there´s any way to get gnome 3 keeping unity?
[06:54] <Lasers> oisgam: You can't have both.
[06:54] <milamber> !gnome3 | oisgam
[06:54] <oisgam> T_T ok ...
[06:54] <johndo> but if you really like the dock I've had some luck with dockbarx
[06:55] <oisgam> i got docky and works good with unity
[06:55] <_NJSDDngddsg> Hello
[06:55] <_NJSDDngddsg> I am using Linux Mint right now and I think to change to Ubuntu. Should I change to Ubuntu ?
[06:56] <gry> _NJSDDngddsg: if you like
[06:57] <_NJSDDngddsg> gry: Mint and Ubuntu areb oth okay. I would change to ubuntu because i have got problems with mints owner
[06:57] <fr500> mint's owner?
[06:57] <fr500> as in personal issues?
[06:57] <_NJSDDngddsg> yes
[06:58] <gry> _NJSDDngddsg: if you like ubuntu, then change
[06:58] <_NJSDDngddsg> i like both
[06:58] <fr500> _NJSDDngddsg: pretty much the same thing mate
[06:59] <milamber> _NJSDDngddsg: is there a reason to change?
[06:59] <urlin2u> _NJSDDngddsg, your obviously pining to talk about your problems don't do it here.
[06:59] <_NJSDDngddsg> milamber: personal problems with clement lefebvre, mint owner, this is the only
[07:00] <urlin2u> _NJSDDngddsg, this s not a mint anything s=channel stop it.
[07:00] <_NJSDDngddsg> milamber
[07:00] <milamber> _NJSDDngddsg: that means no then. in my experience change for change sake is not something to do for anything that matters. come on back if you try ubuntu and have support questions :)
[07:01] <oisgam> well also i have some issues, and i wanna know how to solve them. once i've configured the compizcube and the compiz effects and all that stuff the loading screen of ubuntu look creeppy and show somo messages but they disapear too fast i can read them
[07:01] <fr500> _NJSDDngddsg: if you have issues... well then change
[07:01] <fr500> while there are important differences, for the common user it's all skin deep
[07:02] <oisgam> i don wanna change i´m the other guy
[07:02] <sheepherd> so ive got those files on my external hd which are executables. when inside the mounted device they dont have chmod x but when moved to ~ they are. is that some kind of security feature?
[07:02]  * stjohnmedrano is away: Away lang!.
[07:02] <milamber> sheepherd: what are the filesystems?
[07:03] <sheepherd> ah! gimme a sec
[07:03] <milamber> sheepherd: the external is probably fat which doesn't support executable bit
[07:04] <fr500> sheepherd: what kind of executables?
[07:04] <fr500> .exe?
[07:05] <sheepherd> filesystem is fuseblk
[07:05] <sheepherd> @milaber ^
[07:05] <fr500> not likely
[07:05] <fr500> ntfs fat ext3 ext4 are likely
[07:06] <questionsabout> Hello
[07:06] <milamber> sheepherd: that is how an ntfs system is reported. to see the fs type, do: sudo fdisk -l
[07:06] <JoeR1> hello
[07:06] <sheepherd> fr500, http://goo.gl/1GT40
[07:06] <questionsabout> I am questionsabout, my prename is questions and my aftername is about, that makes questionsabout(buntu)
[07:07] <questionsabout> I am questionsabout, my prename is questions and my aftername is about, that makes questionsabout(ubuntu)
[07:07] <questionsabout> I have got some questions. Can you answer them me?
[07:07] <iceroot> !ask | questionsabout
[07:07] <sveinse> What setting controls that windows maximizes if I drag them to the top edge?
[07:07] <questionsabout> Well i have many questions
[07:07] <sheepherd> ok so its really ntfs
[07:07] <questionsabout> so i will asked all of them and number them
[07:08] <milamber> sheepherd: correct, which doesn't support the executable bit, which is why the files can't/won't show it
[07:08] <JoeR1> No one needs to remind me that this is NOT the wine room therefore I know this is a long shot but I was hoping someone might have some insight into lag issues I am having with Starcraft Brood War under wine.
[07:08] <sheepherd> gotta write down that command. having a lot of fun with the CLI atm :)
[07:09] <questionsabout> 1.) I want to change to Ubuntu. 2.) I alreeady had linux. my pc has a ssd. 3.) i hate the desktop wall of compiz.4.) i need a stable system. 5.) unity is okay if i change the numbers of workspaces form 4 to 1
[07:09] <milamber> sheepherd: when working with filesystems/mounts, df is another good one
[07:09] <questionsabout> Which Ubuntu should I use ß
[07:10] <tensorpudding> questionsabout: you can use natty, and configure compiz the way you want
[07:10] <sheepherd> milamber, makes sense, ty! you think its a good idea to reformat that drive to ext4? since it would better fit ubuntu and is overall superior afaik
[07:10] <tensorpudding> questionsabout: no guarantees that it will be stable to your desires though
[07:10] <questionsabout> yes and do you think !!:!= is not stable qnough
[07:10] <tensorpudding> questionsabout: but no ubuntu has ever been that stable
[07:10] <tensorpudding> that i haven't had a bug
[07:10] <JoeR1> what number is natty? ( god I hate those stupid animal based nick names)
[07:10] <tensorpudding> 11.04
[07:10] <milamber> questionsabout: that was really only one question, natty is the current release, but the !lts (10.04) is *generally* considered more stable
[07:10] <JoeR1> ok
[07:10] <questionsabout> JoeR!. !":=$
[07:10] <JoeR1> thanks
[07:10] <tensorpudding> the lts will lack hardware support for the newest stuff
[07:10] <questionsabout> JoeR!. 12.04
[07:10] <milamber> sheepherd: if you want any type of windows compatibility i would leave it as is
[07:11] <JoeR1> 12? I dodn't know they had a 12 yet
[07:11] <milamber> !natty
[07:11] <bullgard4_> '~$ sudo cfdisk' lists 5 partitions with Flag=NC. What does 'NC' stand for?
[07:12] <questionsabout> yes and do you think 11-10 is not stable qnough
[07:12] <sheepherd> milamber, ah right... win cant read that. i think about it
[07:13] <JoeR1> Anyway, I am having some lag issues with Brood War in wine and yes I know about the appdb and #winehq but they were fruitless and this room always has a high population
[07:13] <milamber> !11.10
[07:13] <mickeythemeow> i just installed 11.04
[07:13] <mickeythemeow> and the gui is .......scary
[07:14] <mickeythemeow> i'm lost in new gui
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> mickeythemeow: log off and select Ubuntu Classic as the session
[07:14] <milamber> mickeythemeow: you can choose 'classic' at login
[07:14] <questionsabout> mickeythemeow yes the new gui is some really shit
[07:14] <tensorpudding> mickeythemeow: omg!ubuntu did a guided tour of it
[07:14] <questionsabout> never seen such a shit before
[07:14] <tensorpudding> mickeythemeow: let me find the link for you
[07:14] <JoeR1> mickeythemeow, I didn't care for the mac-ish feel of the gui so I reconfigured
[07:14] <tensorpudding> !language | questionsabout
[07:15] <tensorpudding> mickeythemeow: http://omgubuntu.co.uk/natty/
[07:15] <mickeythemeow> i changed to classic and now it's better :)
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> JoeR1: hardly mac-ish. The dock in mac os is on the bottom ;-)
[07:16] <JoeR1> ActionParsnip, my dock was on the bottom, I got rid of it in favor of a more MS style
[07:16] <mickeythemeow> thanks guy brb
[07:16] <tensorpudding> mickeythemeow: ubuntu 11.10 will not have classic mode, but two different unity modes
[07:16] <Syria> Unable to find a medium that contains live file system ubuntu  :(
[07:17] <wsagent> Hi
[07:17] <JoeR1> anyway, am I getting the cold shoulder on my wine question because it is off-topic?
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> Syria: did you md5 test the iso you downloaded?
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> JoeR1: wine is on topic as it is in the official ubuntu repos
[07:19] <Syria> ActionParsnip:  ٍSure, I am trying to install it using an external hard disc and used ubuntu usb start up creator.
[07:19] <JoeR1> ActionParsnip, well I have had people bust my hump in this room for asking wine questions so I can never be sure
[07:19] <fr500> JoeR1: with wine, as a general rule, your mileage may vary
[07:19] <JoeR1> fr500 - I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> JoeR1: did you check the appdb for compatibility?
[07:20] <fr500> JoeR1: wine is wonderful, but results are never guarranteed
[07:20] <fr500> JoeR1: and to your question, define lag
[07:20] <fr500> ?
[07:20] <fr500> is it low FPS, or real lag as in high ping?
[07:20] <JoeR1>  ActionParsnip As I stated before, Yes I did check the appdb and #winehq before coming here
[07:21] <JoeR1> fr500 - inexplicable frameskip
[07:21] <fr500> single player or MP?
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> JoeR1: i didn't see that, look when I joined the channel ;-)
[07:21] <JoeR1> single, I have yet to go bnet
[07:21] <fr500> what hardware?
[07:22] <JoeR1> ActionParsnip, so many join I couldn't hope to keep track
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> JoeR1: which wine version?
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> JoeR1: then whe
[07:22] <abhinav_singh> how do you see gnome version in my ubuntu
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> When someone asks, simply inform
[07:22] <abhinav_singh> err wrong question...how do i see gnome version in ubuntu
[07:22] <bullgard4_> '~$ sudo cfdisk' lists 5 partitions with Flag=NC. What does 'NC' stand for?
[07:23] <Tech-1> system monitor
[07:23] <JoeR1> pentium d (dual core) geforce 9400 2g ddr2
[07:23] <triplc> hi all
[07:23] <fr500> JoeR1: well you should be able to run sc at max settings I guess
[07:23] <sheepherd> so... couple questions left. first off, i cant start banshee anymore. i get following error: http://goo.gl/ZZPOG . i dont see any process running
[07:23] <fr500> but that's in Windows
[07:23] <JoeR1> ActionParsnip, wine 1.2.3
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> abhinav_singh: dpkg -l | grep gnome | grep lib     should do it
[07:24] <fr500> JoeR1: in wine I'd guess there should be a 20-40% performance penalty
[07:24] <fr500> it's pretty broad
[07:24] <fr500> and app dependant
[07:24] <JoeR1> fr500 - that game doesn't even have graphics settings but yes I should blow the req's out of the water that is why i suspect it is a matter of settings in wine
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> JoeR1: uninstall it. Add the wine ppa and install 1.3  it may help
[07:25] <JoeR1> action - perhaps, one moment
[07:25] <fr500> JoeR1: even if you do in Windows
[07:25] <abhinav_singh> okay ActionParsnip
[07:25] <sheepherd> what could be the issue here?
[07:25] <sheepherd> i did reboot already
[07:25] <triplc> must i install pulseaudio to get gnome-settings-daemon to control audio volume (via multimedia keys), ubuntu 10.04 ? i install a slim (no gnome, only settings-daemon) ubuntu but do not know how to get the volume control correctly. i thought that gnome 2 does not require/demand pulseaudio
[07:25] <fr500> JoeR1: that doesn't mean it will be the same in linux with wine
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> JoeR1: also make sure the app is fully updated
[07:25] <JoeR1> fr500 - even at an 80% performance drop I should have starcraft licked
[07:25] <JoeR1> ActionParsnip, it is, of that I am certain
[07:26] <bullgard4_> sheepherd: Your DBus is out of order. may be it helps to start your GUI anew.
[07:26] <sheepherd> how do i do that?
[07:26] <bullgard4_> !prefix | sheepherd
[07:27] <triplc> must i install pulseaudio to get gnome-settings-daemon to control audio volume (via multimedia keys), ubuntu 10.04 ? i install a slim (no gnome, only settings-daemon) ubuntu but do not know how to get the volume control correctly. i thought that gnome 2 does not require/demand pulseaudio
[07:27] <sheepherd> bullgard4, yep sry :)
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> JoeR1: wine 1.3 may be the ticket. Wine is a strange beast. Also see if cedega or crossoveroffice run it
[07:27] <milamber> bullgard4_: NC means not compatible with dos or os/2, hope you don't need that  :/
[07:28] <JoeR1> I suspect that the average person that comes in here asking questions is less tech adept than I often feel as though I am being spoken down to (not in reference to any specific thing said today)
[07:28] <JoeR1> ActionParsnip, I am just running updates with apt-get, if that doesn't work I'll go after a clean wipe
[07:28] <yoymi> hola
[07:29] <sheepherd> bullgard4, so back to my question... to you mean restarting compiz? im not sure what you mean with GUI
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> JoeR1: could also see if there are vids on YouTube of people running it and ask how they got it going
[07:29] <sheepherd> bullgard4, *do
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> JoeR1: natty repos don't have 1.3
[07:29] <bullgard4_> milamber: Thank you for explaining. --  No, fortunately I do not need any DOS or OS/2 compatibility.
[07:30] <JoeR1> ActionParsnip, no, that was also fruitless as any video made recently was concerning Starcarft 2, what with the recent-ish release and all
[07:30] <bullgard4_> sheepherd: No. I mean restart GNOME if you are using GNOME.
[07:30] <JoeR1> Action yes they do, one moment - pastebin to follow shortly
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> JoeR1: i'll take your word for it
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> !find wine
[07:31] <JoeR1> The following extra packages will be installed:  wine1.3 wine1.3-gecko The following packages will be REMOVED:  wine1.2 wine1.2-gecko The following NEW packages will be installed:  wine1.3 wine1.3-gecko
[07:31] <Tech-1> sheepherd   just log out and back in, see if that helps, didn't mean to get in between you and bullgard4 , even though he started and didn't finish with you
[07:32] <sheepherd> bullgard4, ok i'll do that... brb
[07:32] <sheepherd> Tech-1, ty
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> JoeR1: so it does, the ppa may give a newer build, you'll need to try both to see which works better
[07:32] <Tech-1> ya np/p
[07:33] <flametai1> Is there anything like Rainmeter for Linux? o=
[07:34] <JoeR1> ActionParsnip, I know, I was just unaware they had 1.3 out, in an unrelated side note - I find it very sad that my internet access takes many minutes to download 34 meg
[07:35] <questionsabout> Hello i need help
[07:35] <JoeR1> now reading it as wine 1.3.26
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> !away > bobJabba-Away
[07:35] <questionsabout> Can you help ,e?
[07:36] <ObrienDave_> questionsabout: just ask the question
[07:36] <JoeR1> ActionParsnip _ I shall return shortly to report either success or failure
[07:36] <questionsabout> Which ubuntu should i use
[07:37] <questionsabout> 9.04 or 9.10
[07:37] <bullgard4_> questionsabout: Ubuntu 10.04
[07:37] <philipballew> questionsabout, no
[07:37] <BarBlitz> the one thats most stable and just works
[07:37] <Tech-1> neither, they don't have support
[07:37] <philipballew> 10.04 or 11.04
[07:37] <Tech-1> 10.10
[07:37] <questionsabout> ok
[07:37] <questionsabout> but which
[07:37] <questionsabout> 0.0.04 or 11.04
[07:37] <philipballew> questionsabout, try 11.04
[07:37] <ObrienDave_> questionsabout: mostly depends on which desktop you prefer
[07:38] <questionsabout> unity hate
[07:38] <Tech-1> he cant prefer ubity, it only started with 11.04
[07:38] <Tech-1> unity
[07:38] <ObrienDave_> questionsabout: you don't have to boot into unity
[07:38] <sheepherd> bullgard4, well a logout didnt help. still the same error
[07:39] <bullgard4_> sheepherd: Just a moment please.
[07:39] <sheepherd> questionsabout, you can still use gnome 2 on 11.04
[07:41] <ObrienDave_> questionsabout: unity is a PITA
[07:41] <JoeR1> ActionParsnip, I'm sorry, I told a lie. My version of starcraft was not up to date, I am rectifying this issue as I type.
[07:43] <bullgard4_> sheepherd: I could not find any report of the same bug in WWW that you have. --  I am using Banshee myself. --  The only recommendation I can give is to try Ubuntu 11.04 Alpha 3 and its new Banshee version. But this is dangerous.
[07:43] <bullgard4_> sheepherd: I could not find any report of the same bug in WWW that you have. --  I am using Banshee myself. --  The only recommendation I can give is to try Ubuntu 11.10 Alpha 3 and its new Banshee version. But this is dangerous.
[07:44] <sheepherd> bullgard4, ty for looking into it. but you mean 11.11 right?
[07:44] <graphicscardhelp> How would I burn a video dvd to play in Dvd players in Ubuntu 11.04 Natty?  Devede doesn't seem to be working anymore. The issue is when I go to play it on my dvd player, it gives me an error. So I'm guessing its not burning the iso file right in devede.
[07:44] <sheepherd> bullgard4, ah typo 11.10 and you already corrected that
[07:44] <sheepherd> bullgard4, well i dont think it could get worse than not working
[07:45] <Dogget> Hey guys. I cannot move upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 as ubuntu locks out completely even before I install it.
[07:46] <bullgard4_> sheepherd: But other programs may not work as well as you have been used to.
[07:46] <JoeR1> what is the new Ubuntu nick name going to be? octogenarian ocelot? or perhaps odiferous opossum?
[07:47] <bullgard4_> JoeR1: Oneiric
[07:47] <Tech-1> lol opossum
[07:48] <Dogget> What about oval orifice? :-)
[07:48] <sheepherd> bullgard4, i'll try upgrading banshee separately if possible.
[07:48] <JoeR1> Dogget, no good, it MUST contain an animal name
[07:48] <IdleOne> !ot
[07:48] <bullgard4_> Dogget: "locks out completely" is no exact description.
[07:48] <Dogget> Every animal has an orifice right?
[07:48] <milamber> !11.10
[07:49] <FriGiN> im trying to boot from a usb.. no matter what i do i just get a blinking underscore forever. nothing ever happens. thought it was the distro i had but ive now tried 3 distros one not even ubu, any help?
[07:49] <Dogget> Well I explain Bullguard
[07:49] <JoeR1> Perhaps Overt Orangutan would be a good name for it
[07:51] <milamber> !nomodeset | FriGiN
[07:51] <bullgard4_> sheepherd: What do you mean by "separately"?
[07:51] <Dogget> I used to have a 4850 ati graphic card and I never had any issue with it. I swapped to a 6850 which is stopping me from installing 11.04. If I swap the 6850 for my old 4850 I can put 11.04, if I put the 6850 back in I can't, even if 11.04 was installed previously using the 4850 card.
[07:51] <sheepherd> bullgard4, well without switching to 11.10
[07:51] <Dogget> I would love to upgrade but I can't.
[07:51] <ObrienDave> FriGiN: you mean usb hard drive or stick?
[07:52] <Dogget> Not without using the 6850 card.
[07:52] <FriGiN> stick
[07:52] <ObrienDave> FriGiN: i'm running off a 16GB stick now
[07:53] <bullgard4_> sheepherd: DBus is concerend with inter-process communication. You may not be successful with your anticipated test. But it  is worth a try.
[07:53] <FriGiN> thats what i have. ive had it b4.. i formatted it to move some software and im trying to go back ive never had this problem b4.. its immediately after post. just locks up right there. no data read blink from stick, nothing happens if you let it sit.. hit buttons nothing.
[07:54] <FriGiN> milamber, reading that page, i could be wrong, but im positive it doesnt apply.. its driver related and ive boot ubu many many times off this pc.. with same image. both 32 and 64 bit
[07:54] <milamber> FriGiN: just a thought
[07:55] <ObrienDave> FriGiN: am having same problem with 2TB hard drive. won't boot
[07:55] <FriGiN> milamber, not chastizing, just getting frustrated.
[07:56] <FriGiN> i used both unetbootin and yumi multi boot to image the stick..
[07:56] <sheepherd> bullgard4, hm... my update manager is installing libdbus1.0-cil right now. (new install)
[07:56] <FriGiN> my ultimate goal is that i want backtrack 5 running i'd love to have ubu multi boot on it tho..
[07:57] <sheepherd> bullgard4, with apt-get update i could find any updates though... hows that possible?
[07:57]  * aztek off dulu ya bro all, bos manggil ni.... :-)
[07:57] <Dogget> Anybody who can help me out with my 11.04 install/upgrade?
[07:57] <ObrienDave> FriGiN: I had better luck using LinuxPenDrive. Then burned .iso to dvd and installed to an UNformatted stick.
[07:57] <i42n> What is the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade?
[07:58] <Clover> Hello all
[07:58] <sheepherd> bullgard4, and this is just one package among 10 others which only showed up in the update manager
[07:58] <Kartagis> !english > aztek
[07:58] <bullgard4_> sheepherd: Because industrious Ubuntu maintainers every day are improving packages in quality and are delivering them to repositories.
[07:58] <FriGiN> ObrienDave, dl'n now.
[07:58] <milamber> FriGiN: do you have a smaller usb stick to try?
[07:59] <ObrienDave> FriGiN: k
[07:59] <FriGiN> the 2gb stick shows as 1.87 and its shy of the necessary 2gb for the one image i need.
[08:00] <FriGiN> ObrienDave, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ ?
[08:00] <ObrienDave> FriGiN: yep
[08:00] <Tomikasss> good day
[08:00] <Clover> I'm getting a really odd error on boot "failed to get i915 symbols graphics turbo disabled" and shortly afterwards my screen looks like this http://www.imgjoe.com/x/img0153igi.jpg. Has anyone seen this problem?
[08:01] <FriGiN> ObrienDave, same ppl that make yumi, but i'll give a go
[08:02] <bullgard4_> Clover: Please look for it in Launchpad bugs.
[08:02] <haaalp> is there a way to install ubuntu without removing ALL partitions? :O because i have a ntfs partition where a keep all my stuff that i want to save
[08:02] <Lasers> haaalp: Make a backup.
[08:02] <Lasers> haaalp: Buy new hard drives. They're cheap.
[08:02] <i42n> haaalp: just select at install that you want to keep the windows stuff
[08:03] <bullgard4_> haaalp: Yes. This is possible.
[08:04] <haaalp> then how? without buying a new HDD?
[08:04] <bullgard4_> haaalp: Use the Ubuntu installer program intelligently.
[08:04] <FriGiN> like i42n said, when installing you can choose to dual boot
[08:04] <Tomikasss> how to move icons to bottom in ubuntu??
[08:04] <haaalp> yeah but i dont want to dualboot
[08:05] <FriGiN> you can regrub and remove the windows partition info in the boot.
[08:05] <Tomikasss> from left side to bottom
[08:05] <FriGiN> then kill the /windows for space efficacy..
[08:05] <Lasers> haaalp: Why don't you want to buy new hard drive? I guess that NTFS partition isn't important if you're about to play with new toys without reading any manuals.
[08:06] <haaalp> i dont want to buy new ones since i already have 4 that i use! -.-
[08:06] <Guest3258> I could some assist me, I want to burn a movie to a DVD so I can play it in my DVD player, how would I go about it using Brasero?
[08:06] <Lasers> haaalp: They all are full? Use one of them for Ubuntu.
[08:06] <i42n> Lasers: It is possible without buying new hdd, so why spending more money?
[08:07] <haaalp> yes actually, they are full, this is the only one that's not
[08:07] <Cyb3rjunk> !list
[08:08] <Lasers> i42n: It's not about money. It's about the data. If you are comfortable losing everything -- and have ZERO backups. It's one of the worst feelings in the world.
[08:08] <paszo2008> hallo i have question how to enter grub during booting if ubuntu is only operating system ?
[08:09] <Lasers> paszo2008: Hold SHIFT if you're on GRUB2. (I believe).
[08:09] <paszo2008> i tried holding shift but with no results
[08:09] <bullgard4_> !grub2 | paszo2008
[08:09] <jorick> i installed ubuntu's GRUB on the partition-level (instead of on the disk level). this laptop already had a GRUB on the hard disk level which does things like restoring windows etc… how would i link the two grub's together? how do i get into grub's config?
[08:09] <paszo2008> yes i am on grub 2
[08:09] <GrindCrusher> press 'c' when the menu comes up
[08:09] <Lasers> I think Grub2 is hidden by default (until you hold shift during bootup).
[08:10] <Cyb3rjunk> Lasers u r right
[08:11] <gjx> hello everybody
[08:11] <Cyb3rjunk> but why grub 2 is used in only Ubuntu based distros ?
[08:11] <i42n> Cyb3rjunk: it isn't
[08:11] <acerz> has anyone got righ-click to work properly in ubuntu?
[08:12] <ObrienDave> acerz: yes. works fine
[08:12] <Lasers> acerz: It worked. Could it be your fancy high-tech mouse?
[08:13] <acerz> I use a click pad (I believe they are called these days)
[08:13] <acerz> an hp click pad
[08:13] <acerz> or touch pad
[08:13] <ObrienDave> click pad???
[08:13] <Lasers> acerz: What hardware?
[08:13] <Lasers> !hcl | acerz
[08:13] <acerz> my machine is an hp probook and the problem is with its touchpad
[08:14] <Athenon> Is there any remotely simple way to limit bandwidth for specific users?
[08:14] <voxcroix> PM me Pls
[08:15] <FriGiN> wish me luck rebootin
[08:15] <Lasers> acerz: Specific hardware.
[08:15] <acerz> it doesn't respond to right click commands and synaptiks doesn't even detect right click button
[08:15] <acerz> sorry, I don't have specifics now... I'm not with my machine here
[08:15] <ObrienDave> acerz: button bad? crud under button?
[08:15] <Lasers> acerz: I'm guessing your hardware is very new.
[08:16] <ObrienDave> acerz: switch under button bad?
[08:17] <paszo2008> holding shift during bootup doesnot work :/ - i have installed newest ubuntu on vbox
[08:17] <acerz> Lasers: it is only a few months old and there is no hardware problem... everything workds well in windows 7 and in windows xp but when I switch to ubuntu, the problem shows up
[08:17] <Lasers> acerz: Well. Come back in when you're by your hardware.
[08:17] <ObrienDave> acerz: sounds like driver issue to me
[08:18] <acerz> must be a driver issuew
[08:18] <ObrienDave> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[08:18] <Lasers> acerz: Otherwise we can't help much. You lack make/model specs. It's probably xorg issue if it didn't work out of the box fine.
[08:18] <acerz> so no solution can be foud here?
[08:19] <acerz> all the others online solve this issue but disable other feaures at the same time
[08:21] <janhaj> Hello, I have problem with sound, probably pulseaudio. Every 2 minutes, playing music start jumping for 0,5s.. It is annoying.. Do you know, why and fix? Thanks
[08:21] <DarsVaeda> hi what part of ubuntu is used for the window designs, that crashed somehow and I have an ugly design, I thought it might help if I do "killall xxx" and see if it restarts like with the gnome-panels
[08:21] <DarsVaeda> oh its called themes
[08:21] <milligan> I have an apache2 running on my laptop. netstat -nlp indicates that apache is only listening to tcp6 ::80 .. but my ports.conf has Listen ip:80 and ip6::80 .. Any ideas why it's not listening on ipv4 for connections ?
[08:25] <Lasers> acerz: You don't have your hardware. Usually it take a quick google "ubuntu, touchpad, solved, <your specs>" -- You'll find some good solutions.
[08:26] <craZZter> Hmm... after doing upgrade to 2.6.38.10 kernel I'm getting "kernel panic not syncing vfs unable to mount root fs on unknown-block". Then shutdown. I can boot in the 2.6.38.8 kernel. Any good suggestions? =/
[08:31] <jatt> I booted my machine and .bashrc was suddenly empty why?
[08:31] <jatt> I am using ext4
[08:31] <jatt> fortunately I had a backup
[08:39] <abdallah_> hello
[08:47] <fatih> i cant access ##c channel from here
[08:48] <fatih> Can anyone help me?
[08:49] <Cyb3rjunk> type "/leave " and then type "join ##c"
[08:50] <squig> So I am new to ubuntu from redhat/slackware and others
[08:51] <squig> I am trying to determine how I get a service to start on boot
[08:51] <fatih> join ##c
[08:51] <squig> (seems every linux variant wants to do it differently
[08:51] <squig> Failrar,  you need to write "/join ##C"
[08:51] <fatih> Cyb3rjunk, Where will i type this?
[08:51] <fatih> i am new on Ubuntu and IRC
[08:52] <Cyb3rjunk> same place where u typed this message
[08:52] <no-name-> so I'm trying to get Transmission to use an open port and it says it's closed (I've tried 2 different ones that are open on my router, they worked when with my bittorrent client on windows... what gives?
[08:52] <Cradam> gksudo dhclient eth0  would this work?
[08:52] <Cyb3rjunk> but it will get u out of here
[08:52] <fatih> "/leave"
[08:52] <fatih> join ##C
[08:53] <fatih> i ve understood
[08:53] <fatih> but i cant leave
[08:53] <Cradam> fatih: /part for leaving
[08:54] <nehru> @search ubuntu 10
[08:54] <Cradam> nehru: what are you looking for?
[08:55] <Smiley> urgh
[08:56] <Smiley> how do i know which "version" of ubuntu I have?
[08:56] <Smiley> Linux webserver3.uk 2.6.32-31-server #61-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 8 19:44:42 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[08:56] <Smiley> as its not mentioned in the version or uname texts... >_<
[08:56] <Cradam> well its not in that
[08:56] <Smiley> Linux version 2.6.32-31-server (buildd@crested) (gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) ) #61-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 8 19:44:42 UTC 2011
[08:56] <Smiley> 4.4.3?
[08:56] <Smiley> or is that just gcc...
[08:57] <Smiley> Heh, maybe I should explain.
[08:57] <Smiley> I'm trying to see what version of OTRS is going to be installed by apt-get.
[08:59] <stevennt123> I have a Dell Pavilion 8100 with a new hard drive.  I want to install Ubuntu 11.04  The boot sequence has been set but the boot goes into the CD app and not the install.  Any suggestions?
[08:59] <noc> Hello
[09:00] <noc> im having trouble whit my ubuntu 10.04 when i start i get an error message telling me "ubuntu is running in low graphic mode"
[09:00] <noc> how can i revert back to the original default open source drivers for my ATI card ?
[09:00] <gadgetdevil> Smiley you can run System Monitor
[09:00] <Smiley> errrr
[09:00] <Smiley> cmdline?
[09:01] <Smiley> does it have comdline version?
[09:01] <gadgetdevil> let me check...
[09:01] <stevennt123> hello
[09:01] <thomx> hi. i have only ubuntu installed on my disk. i always get grub menu while booting (i have only three ubuntu options to choose, i don't have windows on this disk). i'd like to have ubuntu automatically botting without disturbing me with grub choice menu - where can i fix it?
[09:01] <no-name-> so I'm trying to get Transmission to use an open port and it says it's closed (I've tried 2 different ones that are open on my router, they worked when with my bittorrent client on windows... what gives?
[09:01] <gadgetdevil> cat /etc/lsb-release
[09:02] <gadgetdevil> Smiley cat /etc/lsb-release
[09:02] <Smiley> ty
[09:02] <Smiley> Ubuntu 10.04.3 LTS"
[09:02] <Smiley> wooo :)
[09:03] <Peerke> Can I ask a question about Ubuntu here?
[09:03] <Cradam> Peerke: ...
[09:04] <Peerke> I'm running Ubuntu server and have a weird problem with postfix.
[09:04] <gadgetdevil> no-name-: try using nmap against yourself to see if you have that port open, Transmission may be lying. If you want to be a real pro, try using the netstat utility.
[09:04] <Cradam> Peerke: have you tried asking the postfix people?
[09:05] <Peerke> Not yet, but I think it's related to something that is missing within Ubuntu.
[09:05] <gadgetdevil> thomx: If you have Grub 2 you can edit /etc/default/grub then run sudo update-grub to update with the new settings
[09:05] <Peerke> I get the following message in my logging:
[09:05] <Peerke> Aug 15 10:49:29 vps663 postfix/local[12494]: fatal: unable to determine open file limit
[09:05] <Neptu> hej someone know how to change the icons in the launcher bar??
[09:06] <gadgetdevil> Neptu: Right click > Properties
[09:06] <thomx> gadgetdevil: yes, i have grub2. what option exactly do you mean in /etc/default/grub?
[09:06] <Neptu> gadgetdevil: does not work...
[09:06] <Neptu> gadgetdevil: have no properties over the icon i want to change the image...
[09:06] <gadgetdevil> thomx: you will have to edit that file
[09:06] <gry> Neptu: right click, properties, click the icon.
[09:07] <gadgetdevil> Neptu: Is this a launcher to an application?
[09:07] <gadgetdevil> Neptu: Doesn't apply if it is under a menu, like Applications/Places/System
[09:07] <Guest3258> I could some assist me, I want to burn a movie to a DVD so I can play it in my DVD player, how would I go about it using Brasero?
[09:07] <janhaj> Hello, I have problem with sound, probably pulseaudio. Every 2 minutes, playing music start jumping for 0,5s.. It is annoying.. Do you know, why and fix? Thanks
[09:07] <Neptu> the only options i get is text editor and keep in the launcher
[09:08] <stevennt123>  I have a Dell Pavilion 8100 with a new hard drive.  I want to install Ubuntu 11.04  The boot sequence has been set but the boot goes into the CD app and not the install.  Any suggestions?
[09:08] <Neptu> gadgetdevil: 11.04 bar on the left or "launcher"
[09:08] <noc> i need help whit ATI graphic drivers
[09:08] <gadgetdevil> thomx: you will probably need to edit the GRUB TIMEOUT field
[09:09] <noc> how can i revert back to default ubuntu 10.04 graphic drivers if every time i start my ubuntu i get an error telling me "ubuntu is running in low graphic mode "?
[09:09] <squig> noc how would you normally install your graphics drivers?
[09:09] <noc> squig: apt-get install gdm
[09:10] <noc> squig: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[09:10] <Guest3258> I could some assist me, I want to burn a movie to a DVD so I can play it in my DVD player, how would I go about it using Brasero for that?	
[09:10] <linuxuz3r_> hey guys
[09:10] <noc> squig: dpkg-reconfigure -a xorg-common
[09:10] <squig> noc, what happens when you try that?
[09:10] <noc> but still it wont work, i get some questions and im answering them
[09:10] <noc> but if i then run glxinfo | grep VGA
[09:10] <noc> then my output is "error cant open display"
[09:10] <gadgetdevil> Guest3258: Launch Brasero > Video Project
[09:10] <noc> squig: "error unable to open display"
[09:11] <linuxuz3r_> gadgetdevil, what about the folders?
[09:11] <squig> your in X when you do that?
[09:11] <noc> squig: normally yes, but im at work now connected remotly whit SSh
[09:11] <squig> ssh -X ?
[09:11] <noc> squig: not now but i can do that yes...
[09:11] <gadgetdevil> linuxuz3r_: What folders?
[09:11] <squig> glx is going to be 'strange' over an X session
[09:12] <noc> but still it's low graphic mode,
[09:12] <noc> i think it's called "vesa" ?
[09:12] <linuxuz3r_> gadgetdevil, for the folders
[09:12] <linuxuz3r_> of the video
[09:12] <Guest3258> gadgetdevil: Ok I have done that, dose it matter what file it is. Dose it have to be Avi or Mkv? The format it's in now is M4v. will that work?
[09:12] <squig> noc,  i think you should go home and fix it there, you are adding all sorts of hardness trying to run accelerated X functions over an ssh session
[09:12] <noc> squig: alright im over ssh -X now.
[09:13] <linuxuz3r_> Guest3258, i think it should be mp2
[09:13] <linuxuz3r_> mpeg2
[09:13] <noc> squig: but still i dont think youre experienced enough to help me, i spent over 5 hours yesterday in hope of any kind person help me out of this mess
[09:13] <linuxuz3r_> if you wanna play in dvd
[09:13] <noc> all i want to do is to revert back to default ubuntu 10.04 Graphic Drivers
[09:13] <squig> noc, insulting me aint going to help you that much either :)
[09:13] <noc> open source drivers.
[09:13] <noc> squig: im not insulting you im just questioning you,
[09:14] <squig> apt-get remove your bad drivers, X --configure
[09:14] <Guest3258> linuxuz3r_: MP2 for a dvd? Sorry are sure? :D
[09:14] <gadgetdevil> linuxuz3r_: I don't think Brasero can help you to create a complex DVD structure with folders and all
[09:14] <squig> nuke your xorg file will also do it.
[09:14] <noc> squig: and how do i know which drivers i have? i dont have any drivers
[09:14] <noc> squig: the only xorg.conf file i have is xorg.conf.failsafe
[09:14] <squig> noc, your not experianced to be asking the right questions !
[09:14] <noc> and if i nuke that it wont do any change.
[09:14] <linuxuz3r_> Guest3258, do you want it to play on your dvd?
[09:14] <squig> noc, and thats why you are in low graphics mode
[09:15] <squig> your X is not configured
[09:15] <noc> squig: so you mean if i nuke that and reboot the "Low graphic error message will dissaper" ?
[09:15] <Guest3258> linuxuz3r_: Yes I would like it to play on my DVD player.
[09:15] <gadgetdevil> noc: If it worked after you first installed, why not backup your data and reinstall?
[09:15] <noc> you must be kidding i tried that yesterday still it did pop up.
[09:15] <linuxuz3r_> ok
[09:16] <noc> gadgetdevil: why do i want to do that, if i can fix it its much more easier and i save time to not do a backup and go a long way of completing my mission?
[09:16] <noc> squig: i dont think you understand my scenario
[09:16] <noc> squig: i dont have any drivers installed on my system...
[09:16] <m_rite> there is an awesome application launcher in unity, can i get that with classic?
[09:16] <m_rite> with the search bar and all?
[09:16] <noc> if i remove my xorg.conf.failsafe that stupid error message will occur again
[09:17] <noc> because it can only boot on vesa.
[09:17] <noc> i need to know the source of the default ubuntu 10.04 graphic drivers
[09:17] <linuxuz3r_> Guest3258, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVkdfJ9PkRQ
[09:17] <linuxuz3r_> whoops
[09:17] <captain> the drivers come from the kernel
[09:17] <linuxuz3r_> Guest3258,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/9575/how-do-i-use-brasero-to-burn-a-movie-in-dvd-format
[09:17] <deem> noc: what graphiccard do you use?
[09:18] <noc> deem: one sec i give you output from lspci | grep vga
[09:18] <noc> deem: VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R430 [Radeon X800 XL] (PCIe)
[09:18] <deem> oh. sry. i don't use ati =)
[09:18] <noc> deem: that's my graphic card okay, i just want to revert back to default drivers then my mission is completed.
[09:18] <questionsabout> Hello
[09:19] <noc> and the solution is defenitly not to nuke the xorg.conf.failsafe
[09:19] <deem> noc: the default driver is called "radeon"
[09:19] <questionsabout> My name is questionsabout
[09:19] <noc> deem: should i try to just dpkg-reconfigure that one ?
[09:19] <questionsabout> My prename is questions my aftername is about
[09:19] <m_rite> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/30/Unity3Final.png can i get this launcher in gnome?
[09:19] <noc> deem: xserver-xorg-video-radeon ?
[09:19] <noc> deem: or is it libdrm-radeon1?
[09:20] <deem> noc: i don't know. as is said. i don't use ati. but i know, that the default driver is the radeon driver
[09:20] <noc> the xserver-xorg-video-radeon one ?
[09:20] <deem> dk
[09:21] <Guest3258> linuxuz3r_: Dude, what the hell dose that have to do with my problem? (  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVkdfJ9PkRQ  )
[09:21] <linuxuz3r_> not that
[09:21] <noc> squig: what are your suggestions then ?
[09:21] <linuxuz3r_> Guest3258,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/9575/how-do-i-use-brasero-to-burn-a-movie-in-dvd-format
[09:21] <squig> noc, your in low graphics mode? there is the menu that says would you like to reconfigure your graphics ?
[09:22] <noc> squig: i tried that one.. yes nothing happens
[09:22] <squig> noc, nothing at all happens?
[09:22] <noc> squig: NO
[09:23] <noc> squig: nothing, de nada... finito
[09:23] <questionsabout> My prename is questions my aftername is about
[09:23] <noc> squig: other suggestions ?
[09:23] <questionsabout> i am using linux mint should i change to ubuntu
[09:24] <squig> noc, x -configure, or X --configure
[09:24] <ultrixx> questionsabout: no you should switch to windows
[09:24] <noc> dpkg-reconfigure x -configure or X --configure ?
[09:24] <raven> how to send messages to the notification window?
[09:24] <linuxuz3r_> questionsabout, i have not played with linux mint but i like ubuntu for easyness of configureation
[09:24] <linuxuz3r_> configuration
[09:24] <squig> no, the command is for X
[09:24] <questionsabout> i like mkint bbut i have got personally problems with his owner
[09:24] <questionsabout> should i change it ?
[09:24] <squig> noc man X
[09:25] <ultrixx> questionsabout: yes, change to windows
[09:25] <questionsabout> !ops ultrixx
[09:25] <raven> how to send messages to the notification window?
[09:25] <questionsabout> someo peartor there
[09:26] <linuxuz3r_> !ops
[09:27] <questionsabout> ultrixx trolls
[09:27] <noc> squig: okay my output is this.
[09:27] <linuxuz3r_> lol
[09:27] <raven> how to send messages to the notification osd?
[09:27] <questionsabout> i like mint but i have got personally problems with his owner
[09:27] <jrib> raven: you can use libnotify-bin
[09:27] <questionsabout> should i change it ?
[09:27] <linuxuz3r_> what do you mean by owner?
[09:27] <questionsabout> clement lefebvre
[09:27] <rho> i have dual monitor setting with multiple x session. how to make the application startup by default in desire screen.
[09:27] <noc> squig: http://pastebin.com/7LbQ4FbG output.
[09:27] <venilsurya> Hey
[09:28] <venilsurya> What does the directory /var/cache/apt/archives contain?
[09:28] <questionsabout> venilsurya: downloaded packages from apt-get, nothing important
[09:28] <linuxuz3r_> ok i dont know what you mean about that
[09:28] <bugbrains> fatal: unable to allocate any listen sockets on host (null) port 9418
[09:28] <squig> noc, I asked you to run X -configure
[09:28] <fatih> Cradam, i quit with /part
[09:28] <rho> @venilsurya /var/cache/apt/achive contain download deb files for installation frm apt
[09:28] <bugbrains> git error fatal: unable to allocate any listen sockets on host (null) port 9418
[09:28] <gry> questionsabout, Just try it, we don't know what is best for you
[09:28] <noc> squig: my bad, one sec.
[09:28] <fatih> but i cant log in #cc channel
[09:29] <gry> fatih: /join #cc
[09:29] <raven> jrib, ok tnx
[09:29] <venilsurya> questionsabout, rho: So deleting those won't screw up my remastersys backup, right?
[09:29] <questionsabout> linuxuz3r_: the owner of mint, clement lefebvre, he is the master of mint
[09:29] <noc> squig: http://pastebin.com/gePzb34N
[09:29] <fatih> gry: Thx
[09:29] <gry> yvw
[09:29] <questionsabout> linuxuz3r_: the owner of mint, clement lefebvre, he is the master of mint
[09:29] <squig> noc is there a server running allready?
[09:29] <noc> squig: the output there could be because im remotly over ssh.
[09:29] <noc> squig: yeah at my home, in my room...
[09:29] <linuxuz3r_> questionsabout, if you like mint you dont have to change to ubuntu
[09:30] <noc> squig: i could killall X
[09:30] <noc> or like stopx ?
[09:30] <questionsabout> linuxuz3r_: but he was very rude to me, should i use his system ?? i was very bad to me
[09:30] <linuxuz3r_> questionsabout, btw what is the lifetime of mint distros?
[09:30] <squig> noc, you are trying to configure a X Server remotely ? thats not really going to work as I said earlier, I could do it but there is no reason for me to waste a morning explaining to you when you could just go home?
[09:30] <noc> squig: well im out of work in like 5 hours ~
[09:31] <ultrixx> questionsabout: try pc-bsd
[09:31] <squig> noc, I am sure the problem will still be there when you get home
[09:31] <questionsabout> linuxuz3r_: but he was very rude to me, should i use his system ?? he was very bad to me
[09:31] <noc> squig: but when i come home i should do ctrl alt + f1 and then run sudo X -configure ?
[09:31] <Cradam> fatih: you were still connected to the server, you hadnt quit
[09:31] <noc> squig: yes there will be problems when i come home i know that...
[09:31] <linuxuz3r_> questionsabout, thats just a matter of taste
[09:31] <squig> noc, you can use a cmd line irc client
[09:31] <linuxuz3r_> its really up to you
[09:32] <linuxuz3r_> i have not used mint at all
[09:32] <noc> squig: im using irssi now.
[09:32] <noc> squig: doing that from my home PC too.
[09:32] <squig> noc, good for you
[09:32] <gigenieks> hi all
[09:32] <questionsabout> linuxuz3r_ i LOVE ! mint, but  i do not love the person
[09:32] <noc> squig: are you still here in like 5 hours ?
[09:32] <linuxuz3r_> questionsabout, dont marry
[09:32] <linuxuz3r_> lol jk
[09:33] <noc> squig: or can you be kind and give me all the commands i should run so i can make an own note on my Desktop so i know what i should run.
[09:33] <squig> noc man X start there
[09:33] <questionsabout> linuxuz3r_ ok thanks
[09:33] <linuxuz3r_> is mint debian base?
[09:33] <gigenieks> I still havent resolved my .ISO issue & no one explained me 'bug thing'...
[09:33] <linuxuz3r_> or own distro?
[09:33] <gry> questionsabout, Like I already said you have lots of options, including attempts to make peace, ignrore the owner, or pick another distro, and there is nothing other people can help you with other than help with settling things in a distro if they don't work as good as you like
[09:33] <gigenieks> here is link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1824768
[09:34] <ultrixx> linuxuz3r_: mint is a ubuntu derivate
[09:34] <linuxuz3r_> oh cool
[09:34] <gry> questionsabout, So 'should I change to ubuntu?' is just a question of whether you *like* it; if you do, we will take efforts to support you in your experience and get issues resolved if you have any
[09:39] <m_rite> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/30/Unity3Final.png can i get this launcher in gnome?
[09:40] <Lasers> m_rite: That's Unity.
[09:41] <Lasers> Default in 11.04
[09:41] <m_rite> Lasers: yes. it's just: i want my usual panels and only that launcher
[09:42] <BlueWolf> Dose anyone know a program use for creating web pages? A simple program for a beginner but the best? Prefribly a program that writes the Html code for you?
[09:42] <th0r> BlueWolf: kompozer?
[09:42] <Lasers> Blogger?
[09:43] <m_rite> Lasers: that launcher is really awesome, better than navigating through menus. i want it. but i don't like how unity handles open tasks so i'd like to have a hybrid of the two. any suggestions?
[09:44] <Lasers> m_rite: I have no idea because I don't use 11.04. Unity does that? Left side panel. If you want old panels, see !classic
[09:44] <m_rite> i have the old panels since i log in with classic. i just want that launcher
[09:45] <Lasers> Then go back to Unity. Don't log in with classic.
[09:45] <BlueWolf> th0r: Is it user Friendly?
[09:46] <th0r> BlueWolf: yes, but picky about who it makes friends with
[09:47] <m_rite> Lasers: with unity comes the whole sidebar icon only ordeal that i don't want
[09:48] <Lasers> Well, that's part of Unity. It's a compiz plugin.
[09:48] <Lasers> !unity
[09:48] <BlueWolf> th0r: Ha ha ha, If I agreed with you we'd both be wrong.
[09:48] <m_rite> Lasers: full circle. i don't want the sidebar, i just want the launcher
[09:49] <wildbat> is there any tools in ubuntu that can mount/edit WIM  images?
[09:49] <Lasers> m_rite: You can't win them all.
[09:49] <m_rite> oh yes i can. i'm pretty sure it's possible
[09:49] <m_rite> it's linux after all
[09:50] <questionsabout> gry: shpuld i ignore the owenr
[09:52] <gry> questionsabout: "Maybe"
[09:53] <udmurt> Hi! I have problem with flac (sometimes mp3) playing by rhythmbox. When CPU get high load audio stream produce noise and artefacts  until I restart rhythmbox. Anyone knows how to solve it?
[09:54] <udmurt> Ubuntu 11.04 64
[09:54] <rho> try banshee! it better than rythmbox
[09:54] <udmurt> tryed, the same problem
[09:55] <rho> r u trying amplifing frm the alsa
[09:55] <rho> i mean sound preference!?
[09:57] <urgru> News from the "wireless trouble courner": AP is found but 11.04 doesn't want to connect; configurations see: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/402087/ and http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/402092/
[10:03] <bjhaid> i have a bash script that runs with bash vas.sh start, if i want it to run as a daemon (run at startup), how do i get that done?
[10:03] <urgru> wireless does work with different OS on the same machine.
[10:04] <urgru> wireless card is a PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection
[10:05] <envygeeks> What OS are you on about that works urgru? If it's Fedora then it's because they backport Wireless updates, for Ubuntu you'll have to wait till 11.10 for Kernel 3
[10:05] <th0r> urgru: I have had problems getting encryption to work in the past. You might try first turning off encryption to determine if that is the problem
[10:06] <BlueWolf> Dose any one know what is the best Antivirus for Ubuntu? I move alot of documents into my windows partition and I don't feel a need to expose it to the internet to put an Antivirus on. So I want to scan things before I move it into windows?
[10:06] <firebird89> hi, how can i apply "convert file1.tiff file1.png" to all files in a directory at once?
[10:06] <th0r> BlueWolf: clam and clamtk
[10:07] <urgru> th0r: already did this; i turned off encryption, tried different encryption modes WEP and WPA and none. always the same problem. even when encryption turned off, wcid tells me that authentification failed.
[10:07] <urgru> th0r: the router also doesnt show a log that the ubuntu tried to log on.
[10:08] <envygeeks> urgru: please paste.ubuntu.com the dmesg around the wireless connection
[10:08] <jerriy> Can somebody tell me why I open this page (below) in Firefox I can't open the bbc page but I get an XML error page?
[10:08] <jerriy> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b013y4gm
[10:09] <bjhaid> i have a bash script that runs with bash vas.sh start, if i want it to run as a daemon (run at startup), how do i get that done?
[10:10] <jerriy> What does this mean?: "This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below"
[10:10] <jerriy> Why does firefox open a "document tree" text page instead of the webpage?
[10:10] <BlueWolf> th0r: Thanks, Is it reliable though?
[10:11] <th0r> BlueWolf: I have used clam on both windows and linux installs for years with no problems. But then again...my web usage is rather conservative
[10:11] <urgru> th0r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/666366/
[10:12] <envygeeks> jerriy: the problem is with you, I had no problem opening the page, and all browsers have a DOM tree, that is the core of HTML, it's showing yo uthe DOM tree because it has nothing better to show you
[10:12] <jerriy>  envygeeks: I have no idea what you're talking about
[10:13] <envygeeks> jerriy: in the end, it's either you or your ISP making a mistake, that page has no display issues
[10:13] <th0r> urgru: are you using the native linux modules for that card? If so, you might try using the windows drivers via ndiswrapper. While the windows driver decreased the sensitivity of my internal card it did improve the stability of the connection
[10:14] <jabdennel> Can someone explain to me the difference between aptitude and apt-get? I've heard that there isn't much difference
[10:14] <Polah> jabdennel: aptitude is a front-end for apt. They do the same thing really.
[10:15] <jerriy>  envygeeks: No I do know it is me (I have other browsers and it shows the page correctly) so what did I do wrong and (more to the point) what'd I need to do to alter the Firefox (I have already disabled all addons but to no avail)
[10:15] <llutz> jabdennel: both are different apt-frontends, aptitude has some advantages in solving and removing dependemcies
[10:15] <obert> how many Rome,Europe are in Europe?
[10:15] <gry> http://serverfault.com/questions/21105/whats-the-difference-between-apt-get-and-aptitude
[10:15] <gry> jabdennel ^
[10:15] <sveinse> What setting controls that windows maximizes if I drag them to the top edge?
[10:15] <envygeeks> jerriy: clear your cache, open up firefox from the terminal and see if it complains and go from there that's all you can do
[10:16] <jabdennel> ok, just checking. I'm kinda new to using linux so it threw me off when I checked for something online and they were like "Hey, type this in: sudo aptitude etc"
[10:16] <urgru> th0r : i sticked to the original ubuntu drivers because  they worked before on 11.04. The problem only appeared some days ago.
[10:16] <BlueWolf> th0r: Ok I have both Installed how do I update them or set them to update? Start with clam.
[10:16] <obert> i dont get this damn time issue
[10:17] <urgru> th0r: can you guide me through installing the ndiswrapper drivers?
[10:17] <llutz> jabdennel: aptitude is debians preferred tool since a while, apt-get is older and more common to all debian-derives. use whatever you like, but you should stay at one tool
[10:17] <th0r> BlueWolf: run clamtk and in the Help menu you can check for updates
[10:17] <jabdennel> I'll stick with "apt-get" :D
[10:17] <th0r> urgru: install ndis-gtk...from there it is a piece of cake
[10:18] <th0r> urgru: you will need to remove the linux module from /etc/module if you added it there. If you didn't, then you need to blacklist it in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[10:19] <obert> i'd edited
[10:19] <hansliii> hi. got ubuntu 11.04 64bit: sometimes my traffic monitor shows send i am sending data upstream with 5-6 MBit/s but... not possible. what can  i do
[10:20] <vroom1> there isnt
[10:20] <jellow> Trying to watch a .avi but it says it's a undf , What can play undf ( Tried mplayer )
[10:20] <jabdennel> vlc?
[10:20] <jellow> no vlc does not support it
[10:20] <obert> /etc/default/rcS UTC=no,set my date/time to be pointed on Rome,Europe, then on the top right clock, i'll see the time with -2 hours, but if i click on the clock, it'll shows the correct time in the larger window
[10:20] <jabdennel> ahh, I thought vlc did everything :/
[10:21] <BlueWolf> th0r: Ok I have done that, but what do I do after that? The status says A newer version is available, when I click nothing happens, sorry im lost?
[10:21] <jabdennel> guess not
[10:21] <th0r> jellow: are you sure undf is a file type and not 'undefined'?
[10:21] <Polah> jellow: That stands for undefined, i.e. VLC doesn't recognise it.
[10:21] <urgru> th0r: sorry, but i'm lost
[10:21] <th0r> BlueWolf: a newer version of what? If it is the engine or clamtk you are stuck with whatever is in the repos, if it is the antivirus database it should fetch it automatically if you are on the net.
[10:21] <bjhaid> please I need to get a bash script run at startup it runs when i have bash vas.sh start, but i want it to run at startup what do i do?
[10:21] <jellow> th0r Polah , Is it corrupt then ?
[10:22] <jrib> bjhaid: is it ok if it runs when you login?
[10:22] <janedoe> hey. what are the commands for using rkhunter?
[10:22] <th0r> jellow: that would be my guess. I have used vlc for years and it has never refused to play an intact avi file
[10:22] <obert> tips?
[10:22] <bjhaid> jrib: yes, my machine does not require login to startup
[10:22] <jrib> !startup | bjhaid
[10:23] <zabomber> how do i install .deb files in ubuntu?
[10:23] <zabomber> dpkg?
[10:23] <bjhaid> !boot
[10:23] <jrib> zabomber: double click on them.  Why aren't you using APT?
[10:23] <BlueWolf> th0r: Ya I am on the net all the time, so it will automatically search and Update?
[10:23] <zabomber> im ssh'ed in
[10:23] <zabomber> nessus?
[10:23] <zabomber> security scanner..
[10:23] <Polah> jellow: No, you'll need packages to recognise AVI files. It's a proprietary format. If you install ubuntu-restricted-extras that should give you AVI support and some other things to boot
[10:24] <auronandace> !packages | zabomber
[10:24] <jrib> zabomber: use dpkg if you don't mind satisfying the dependencies yourself.  Otherwise, use gdebi.  Make sure this package is meant for your version of ubuntu
[10:24] <janedoe> does anyone know the commands for rkhunter?
[10:24] <jrib> janedoe: read its man page?
[10:24] <th0r> BlueWolf: it won't automatically, but it will when you check for updates. To automatically check when you start up, run 'freshclam' in a shell script at boot
[10:24] <obert> thanks the same.
[10:25] <janedoe> well I read it when before I installed it, but I still don't know the commands for using it
[10:25] <janedoe> *read it before
[10:25] <jrib> janedoe: the commands are in the man page.  If that's not what you want, ask a more specific question
[10:25] <ikonia> janedoe: where did you install it from ?
[10:25] <BlueWolf> 	
[10:25] <BlueWolf> th0r: Ah sorry what, I'm am a thick person, Could you explaian ?
[10:26] <janedoe> software center
[10:26] <jellow> Polah, It's not a new install can play every other file.
[10:26] <th0r> BlueWolf: explain which part?
[10:26] <nagg1> Hi, does anyone know why Synaptic is one of the dependencies for Firefox?
[10:26] <bjhaid> jrib: just did that, anyway i can check if it works or i just need to restart my machine to see if it works?
[10:26] <BlueWolf> th0r; All, LOL
[10:26] <Polah> jellow: Have you tried something other than VLC?
[10:26] <jrib> BlueWolf: you can logout and back in, and it should be executed
[10:27] <BlueWolf> th0r: How do I tell it to auto update?
[10:27] <th0r> BlueWolf: check the faq and info at clamav.net
[10:27] <jellow> Polah, mplayer , totem , all the same error
[10:27] <nagg1> Hi, does anyone know why Synaptic is one of the dependencies for Firefox?
[10:28] <zabomber> when I'm trying to wget a file.. it plus the link as the file name? how do i get it to just use the filename?
[10:28] <Polah> zabomber: -nH flag. I assume you mean it's giving you a directory named after the URL with the file in it?
[10:29] <zabomber> nah
[10:29] <zabomber> its doing this
[10:29] <zabomber> http://downloads.nessus.org/nessus3dl.php?file=Nessus-4.4.1-ubuntu1010_i386.deb&licence_accept=yes&t=f912e63c2fe075caeca6017c6f0979c3
[10:29] <zabomber> thats the link
[10:29] <FloodBot1> zabomber: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:29] <Polah> jellow: Just install ubuntu-restricted-extras and then try again.
[10:29] <_aaron_> where can I manually download packages
[10:29] <jrib> _aaron_: why?
[10:30] <Polah> _aaron_: I believe apt-get and aptitude have options to download packages but not install them.
[10:30] <BlueWolf> th0r: Can I PM you?
[10:30] <th0r> BlueWolf: no....keep it here
[10:30] <jrib> zabomber: try using --content-disposition
[10:30] <_aaron_> jrib, I need to install packages but on this machine I have no internet access
[10:31] <jrib> !offline | _aaron_
[10:31] <jellow> Polah, Ye just installed it still same error , Got the file over P2P i'm the only one with the issue odd
[10:32] <th0r> BlueWolf: three pieces to start with....clam, the antivirus database, and clamtk. Clamtk is just a gui frontend for clam.
[10:32] <bjhaid> jrib: the bash script didnt run at startup
[10:32] <_aaron_> jrib, I don't have synaptic only aptitude
[10:32] <jrib> bjhaid: pastebin your script
[10:32] <Polah> jellow: Can't help you any more then, sorry.
[10:33] <jrib> _aaron_: there are other options in ubottu's message, but aptitude can also generate a script (check man page)
[10:33] <BlueWolf> th0r: Is there no Avg for Ubuntu?
[10:33] <ne2k> having release-upgraded from maverick to natty, now rhythmbox's musicbrainz cd track database doesn't work (this is a known problem). I was willing to try out banshee as an alternative but it just crashes as soon as I open it. http://paste.ubuntu.com/666382/
[10:33] <Polah> _aaron_: sudo apt-get download <packages> will download the debs for the packages you list
[10:33] <jrib> _aaron_: well apt-get can anyway with --print-uri
[10:33] <_aaron_> !APTonCD
[10:34] <th0r> BlueWolf: I wouldn't know, and personally wouldn't want it. Things run when *I* say on my computer, not when avg says
[10:34] <bjhaid> jrib: https://gist.github.com/1146018
[10:34] <jrib> bjhaid: how did you enter it in the startup dialog?
[10:34] <bjhaid> jrib: bash /etc/init.d/vas.sh start
[10:34] <vroom1> zabomber: dpkg -i <file.deb>
[10:34] <jrib> bjhaid: how are you determining the script was not executed?
[10:35] <bjhaid> jrib: it should start some servers and they did not start
[10:35] <paszo2008> hallo - where is now the system -> administration -> services menu ?
[10:35] <jrib> bjhaid: put something like touch ~/test in there
[10:35] <jrib> paszo2008: why?
[10:35] <bjhaid> jrib: where?
[10:35] <BlueWolf> th0r: Ok what is the best!!!! The very Best Anti-Virus for window? Is it Clam?
[10:35] <jrib> bjhaid: second line
[10:35] <Ssn> is there a way to change folder icon to scalable like the default folders?
[10:35] <th0r> BlueWolf: there is no best
[10:35] <_aaron_> why is it when I try to install packages from cd that they show up as stalled
[10:36] <karname> Hi, I upgraded to 11.10 alpha3 from 11.04 but when system wants to boot , I get this error from gurb : symbol not found : 'grub_divmod64_full' , can you help me?
[10:36] <jrib> !11.10 | karname
[10:36] <paszo2008> jrib - how to control what services start on startup ?
[10:36] <gry> !startup
[10:36] <gry> paszo2008: ^ ?
[10:37] <_aaron_> jrib, why is it when I try to install packages from cd that they show up as stalled
[10:38] <jrib> paszo2008: if it uses a sys-v-init-style script, install and use sysv-rc-conf.  If instead it is an upstart script, see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#disabling-a-job-from-automatically-starting
[10:38] <jrib> _aaron_: "stalled"?  Where?
[10:38] <janedoe> so I found the right commands and I have 2 warnings, how do I fix that?
[10:38] <jrib> janedoe: what warnings... what did you type?
[10:38] <Polah> janedoe: Warnings in what?
[10:38] <gry> janedoe: tell us the warnings or assume we're psychic
[10:39] <_aaron_> jrib, yes stalled during installation via aptitude
[10:39] <bjhaid1> jrib: and what do i do afterwards?
[10:39] <jrib> _aaron_: pastebin exactly what you see
[10:39] <jrib> bjhaid1: log out and log back in
[10:39] <_aaron_> jrib, ok give 5 - 10
[10:40] <janedoe> /usr/bin/bsd-mailx  and /usr/bin/mail
[10:40] <jrib> janedoe: you're being too vague.  Pastebin everything
[10:40] <janedoe> kk
[10:40] <raven> hi
[10:41] <gry> hi
[10:41] <karname> jrib , ubottu : I asked there , but no one answered me ! I googled somethings  about it , someone said you should purge grub , but I can't access to my ubuntu to purge grub , how can I do it ?
[10:41] <Polah> karname: Boot from a LiveCD and reinstall GRUB
[10:41] <jrib> karname: #ubuntu+1 is the channel for support with the development version of ubuntu, not this one
[10:41] <pushkarik> Hey guys. My Firefox5 doesn't show parts of websites where is some pieces of code. Here is screenshot: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21756832/scr.png
[10:41] <pushkarik> How to overcome this? I already tried to turn off plugins/extensions, change mozilla profile, purge firefox...
[10:41] <raven> evolution only crosses out deleted messages instead of deleting it - what could be wrong?
[10:41] <fatih1993> How can i open .mp3 extension in Terminal ?
[10:41] <ne2k> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743164 I am experiencing this same bug. Banshee crashes as soon as it is opened on Natty. I tried moving ~/.config/banshee-1/banshee.db.old out of the way but the problem persists
[10:42] <adreanalink> I installed "flex" with checkinstall, but when I insall "libpcap" (that requires flex), it does not recognize it. What's the issue?!
[10:42] <jrib> fatih1993: use mplayer for example (there are many options)
[10:42] <jrib> pushkarik: close firefox, open in terminal, visit page, pastebin terminal output
[10:42] <fatih1993> jrib: i know that, but i dont want to use Graphical User Interface
[10:43] <jrib> fatih1993: mplayer is command line...
[10:43] <nagg1_> fatih1993: mplayer is a terminal command
[10:43] <fatih1993> oh
[10:43] <BlueWolf> th0r: Ok what would you recomend?/
[10:43] <fatih1993> Then, Can you give me more commands?
[10:43] <nagg1_> fatih1993: just "mplayer file.mp3" to play the file, space to pause/play
[10:43] <th0r> BlueWolf: that is where we started, isn't it?
[10:43] <jrib> fatih1993: mpg321
[10:44] <pushkarik> jrib: has no output. what am i doing wrong?
[10:44] <ne2k> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/banshee/+bug/668725 found the solution. I have to say that is EXTREMELY CRAP
[10:44] <ne2k> how can you have a music player crash if a certain directory is missing? that is just utterly unbelievably rubbish
[10:44] <jrib> pushkarik: when you say "has no output".  Does firefox actually control the terminal when you run it, or do you just get a new prompt?
[10:44] <janedoe> so these are the warnings: http://pastebin.com/WqLnifZj
[10:44] <nagg1_> fatih1993: If you want more terminal-based sound playing programs, just use Google or Wikipedia.
[10:45] <gry> janedoe, we are not psychic, we also need to see next and previous line - all you see in the Terminal; this information is obviously not enough to understand anything
[10:45] <gry> janedoe, including what you typed initially, what is your input (not output)
[10:45] <jrib> janedoe: that's better, now include what you ran and then ask your question with a link to that
[10:45] <pushkarik> jrib: i get new promt where i can't run bash commands
[10:46] <jrib> pushkarik: pastebin what you see
[10:46] <gry> janedoe, include *both* input and complete output
[10:46] <jerriy>  envygeeks: cleared my cache, opened up firefox from the terminal and run Firefox in safe mode but to no avail (I still get that error page: "This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below")
[10:46] <gry> jerriy, that's odd, try to reinstall firefox, then
[10:46] <_aaron_> !pastebin
[10:47] <fatih1993> naggl_ and jrip: thanks both of you
[10:47] <pushkarik> jrib: i just see last command (firefox) and new line with blinking cursor - even if i go to sites it still blinking without any output.
[10:48] <jrib> pushkarik: that's strange..
[10:48] <bjhaid> jrib: it didnt work
[10:49] <jrib> pushkarik: in the past, I've seen this happen because of custom installed fonts.  Did you install any fonts?
[10:49] <pushkarik> jrib: maybe i need use some flags to get output?
[10:49] <jrib> bjhaid: be more specific
[10:49] <pushkarik> jrib: yes, i tried to install some of unusual fonts - i've put them into 'fonts; folder
[10:49] <jrib> pushkarik: try removing them
[10:50] <pushkarik> jrib: ok, thanks
[10:50] <bjhaid> jrib: it just would not startup the servers, and when i run the script, it creates a test file
[10:50] <jrib> bjhaid: you have to check whether the test file was created at startup or not
[10:50] <bjhaid> jrib: okay
[10:52] <janedoe> alright, how do I fix these warnings: http://pastebin.com/wbURBk8V
[10:53] <Satisfied> anybody know where I can download Firefox 6 for ubuntu ?
[10:53] <auronandace> !firefox | Satisfied
[10:54] <pushkarik> jrib: yes, it works now! thank you
[10:54] <bjhaid> jrib: the test file was created
[10:54] <jrib> pushkarik: no problem
[10:54] <jrib> bjhaid: this means the script was executed
[10:54] <gry> janedoe, good question
[10:55] <bjhaid> jrib: any reason why it wouldnt startup the server?
[10:55] <janedoe> the terminal tells me to check /var/log/rkhunter.log , how do I get there?
[10:55] <jrib> janedoe: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RKhunter .  The author mentions those warnings are routine on an ubuntu system and suggests reading the faq for rkhunter
[10:55] <janedoe> ok thanks so far
[10:55] <DebiansArmy> janedoe: what error all I see is not shared libraries and mail warnings... that is just a log
[10:56] <bjhaid> jrib: what if i put echo bash vas.sh start in the script would that work?
[10:56] <DebiansArmy> janedoe: unless something is not working its just a warning
[10:56] <jerriy> gry: look at the result: https://imgur.com/OtJzA
[10:57] <jrib> bjhaid: hmm, not sure how that would help.  But I would suggest redirecting stdout and stderr somewhere and seeing what's going wrong.  Actually, you may check if there's anything interesting in ~/.xsession-errors first
[10:58] <adreanalink> I installed "flex" with checkinstall, but when I insall "libpcap" (that requires flex), it does not recognize it. What's the issue?!
[10:58] <jerriy> Can anybody help me how to access BBC page? >> https://imgur.com/OtJzA
[10:58] <bjhaid> jrib: i see where the error comes from, i would need to go dump that file in the root folder of my app
[10:59] <ikonia> jerriy: that's not a web page
[10:59] <jerriy> ikonia: what's it?
[10:59] <ikonia> jerriy: XML
[10:59] <ikonia> jerriy: are you trying to access the BBC player ?
[10:59] <jrib> bjhaid: not sure what you mean.  But if you know what to do, go for it :D
[11:00] <jerriy> I'm trying to access the page (it's a page WITH a video)
[11:00] <ikonia> that's not the page, that's the xml that defines the video
[11:01] <jerriy> ikonia: but I do have access to the page in other websites so I know that the web address is a white page with a video
[11:01] <jrib> ikonia: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b013y4gm seems to load up as a "normal looking" web page for me though
[11:01] <ikonia> it's not - it's an XML file
[11:01] <jerriy> ikonia: that's what I mean :)
[11:01] <jrib> jerriy: have you tried things like clearing cache?  disabling extensions? firefox safe-mode? new firefox profile?  fresh new ubuntu user?
[11:02] <jrib> jerriy: ... different browser?
[11:02] <ikonia> jrib: the page loads fine for me also
[11:02] <jerriy> jrib: yes I've done' that
[11:02] <jrib> jerriy: and what were the results in each case?
[11:02] <DebiansArmy> jerriy: depends on the browser if it loads correctly
[11:03] <raven> evolution only crosses out deleted messages instead of deleting it - what could be wrong?
[11:03] <jerriy> ALL other browsers I've already in my system (opera chrome...) show the page normally only firefox is causing me trouble (I suppose it's something to do with how it is set up but the question is WHAT?
[11:04] <jrib> jerriy: it is unlikely a setup issue if it doesn't happen with a fresh new ubuntu user
[11:04] <raven> evolution only crosses out deleted messages instead of deleting it - what could be wrong?
[11:04] <DebiansArmy> Well using firefox no problems ... Now its time to clean firefox up and see if you had added any add-ons that may change page layout...
[11:04] <jerriy> jrib: what issue is it then?
[11:05] <jerriy> DebiansArmy: depends on what?
[11:05] <jrib> jerriy: don't know.  I'd google the error and scroll through the results while you wait
[11:05] <jrib> s/error/message
[11:05] <Satisfied> oh thats interesting, so firefox 5 and 6 are not available for ubuntu.  I wonder why that is
[11:06] <auronandace> !info firefox | Satisfied
[11:06] <DebiansArmy> jerriy: Done webpage design before not all browsers are set to view all webpages in the exact layout... Try a couple flash websites with different browsers your going to get a different layout
[11:06]  * jrib has firefox 5 in ubuntu...
[11:06] <bjhaid> jrib: i see where the error is, i do not need to do it with root permission, anyway this can be done so i do not get it done as root?
[11:07] <jrib> bjhaid: can you show me the error?  Your script isn't being run as root unless you are logging in as root
[11:07] <DebiansArmy> jerriy: you didn't happen to invert colors by pressing alt+n???
[11:07] <jerriy> DebiansArmy: but what is making OTHER people's firefox (I assume some of you here have that) not blocking the page
[11:07] <Satisfied> ya but why have they made it so difficult to install?  linux not good enough to run the latest versions in a stable way?
[11:08] <jrib> jerriy: if you have natty-updates or natty-security repositories (which you should), you will get firefox 5 through update manager
[11:08] <bjhaid> jrib: /etc/init.d/vas.sh: line 7: rackup: command not found
[11:08] <bjhaid> /etc/init.d/vas.sh: line 8: rails: command not found
[11:08] <bjhaid> jrib: i get this same errors when i try sudo bash /etc/init.d/vas.sh start
[11:08] <gry> jerriy: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b013y4gm works for me, can you try to reinstall firefox and/or a new profile? http://support.mozilla.com/kb/Managing-profiles
[11:08] <jrib> bjhaid: easiest way is to just give the full command
[11:08] <jerriy> DebiansArmy: I have not inverted the colors
[11:09] <jrib> bjhaid: /usr/bin/whatever/rackup
[11:09] <andiolsi> hi, how can i include "universe" besides "main" in the initial debootstrap process  (i want to auto-install "mingetty" when calling debootstrap)?
[11:09] <jerriy> jrib: it's Lucid lynx (long term release)
[11:09] <bjhaid> jrib: i dont understand you?
[11:09] <hamub> guys how do i populate Qtablewidget in pyqt4
[11:09] <jrib> bjhaid: replace "rails" with the path to rails and "rackup" with the path to rackup.  You can obtain the path for COMMAND by using « which command »
[11:10] <jrib> jerriy: sorry, wrong nick
[11:10] <bjhaid> jrib: i have changed the privileges of the file, so i think that's the problem, i think i need to remove those privileges
[11:10] <jrib> Satisfied: if you have natty-updates or natty-security repositories (which you should), you will get firefox 5 through update manager
[11:11] <daserfost> #join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:11] <jerriy> gry: Is "nuking" the only option? I thought it was a simple question of tweaking some about-config or userchrome file or something
[11:11] <jrib> bjhaid: by the way, /etc/init.d isn't really the right place for a script you're executing through startup manager
[11:11] <stevennt123> Install CD goes into Live instead of Install selection
[11:11] <bjhaid> jrib: where should i put it?
[11:12] <jrib> bjhaid: I'd suggest ~/bin
[11:12] <andiolsi> --components=main,universe works
[11:12] <DebiansArmy> jerriy: I don't know what u changed or what has changed for you ... jrib gives a solid answer that your browser could have updated to firefox 5... Mine keeps asking to update... But I'm not a beta tester or having any desire to mess with all of linux in this transition from grub to grub 2 to linux 3.0 there are lots of bugs system wide.... Slackware users may be the only safe users right now...
[11:12] <DebiansArmy> ...as long as they dont do updates
[11:12] <bjhaid> jrib: i would require root privileges to access /bin
[11:13] <hamub> guys how do i  register my nickname
[11:13] <jrib> bjhaid: no, ~/bin.  The ~ means: /home/bjhaid
[11:13] <jrib> !register | hamub
[11:13] <jerriy> DebiansArmy: I do have upgraded to FF 5 (despite the official Lucid firefox still being 3
[11:13] <bjhaid> jrib: thanks, let me try again and see if it works
[11:13] <gry> jerriy: that is in no way a wise thing to do when things are borked - the default setup allows to view the page properly; you may need to run ``firefox -safe-mode' and see if the page loads then assuming you close Firefox entirely before doing that. If the safe mode does not help, you will need to reinstall Firefox (aptitude reinstall firefox) and re-try; then try the new profile like...
[11:13] <gry> ...described at that page.
[11:14] <jerriy> DebiansArmy: but FF3 is ancient ;-(
[11:14] <beginner> hai, is there any software that I can use
[11:14] <jrib> beginner: many :D
[11:14] <beginner> ops
[11:14] <beginner> sorry - lol
[11:14] <szal> beginner: >60k packages available for *buntu :P
[11:15] <beginner> is there any application that I can use that will let me enforce how long a user can login into the system ( I am talking about ssh)
[11:15] <beginner> as example - I want them to be disconnected from the system after 1 hour
[11:16] <jerriy> DebiansArmy: everything else works fine in FF5 except this :P (besides I have to remove other non-ff software and "downgrade" in order to install a firefox 3
[11:16] <farhad2161> in ubuntu server on my VMware,i can ping my ip "192.168.1.3" and router ip "192.168.1.1" and also mtr google,but i can not ping google  and using apt-get to install apps.
[11:17] <jrib> beginner: just to be clear, you don't mean idle time of 1 hour, you want them logged off after 1 hour even if they are working on something?
[11:17] <DebiansArmy> jerriy: In what way, people run raids and have different video card support and needs not everyones system is the same... clean cache or reinstall firefox... I usually just reinstall programs that is the reason I do backups to cdrws or external hard drive... This is the price we pay to play.... I like the fact linux ubuntu, fedora, arch linux and rest of the linux community upgrades you...
[11:17] <jerriy> gry: firfox safe mode changes nothing
[11:17] <DebiansArmy> ...always get a few surprises...
[11:17] <beginner> yup - not idle time which can be done with TMOUT
[11:17] <gry> jerriy: ok - what version do you have?
[11:17] <jrib> jerriy: can you confirm that this happens on a fresh new ubuntu user?
[11:18] <jerriy> jrib: what you mean "fresh"? I use ubuntu since 2008
[11:18] <jrib> jerriy: create a new user and test there
[11:18] <_aaron_> jrib, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLx5dvj8CDg
[11:18] <jerriy> gry: ff= 5.0
[11:18] <thebrasse> Hi! How do I create a Ubuntu installation USB stick of I don't have Ubuntu? Do I just dd it onto the device or do I need to do something else? Any links?
[11:19] <gry> !usb
[11:19] <jerriy> gry: ubuntu = Lucid
[11:19] <Polah> thebrasse: Use unetbootin
[11:19] <DebiansArmy> jerriy: In 18+ years since I have been using linux has there never been a moment they aren't upgrading and adding better features...
[11:19] <gry> jerriy: ok, well, it works for me in fx 5.0. you may need to do a reinstall like I mentioned earlier
[11:20] <DebiansArmy> jerriy: do update
[11:21] <beginner> anyone knows any such application?
[11:21] <DebiansArmy> jerriy: apt-get update
[11:22] <DebiansArmy> beginner: for what???
[11:22] <farhad2161> in ubuntu server on my VMware,i can ping my ip "192.168.1.3" and router ip "192.168.1.1" and also mtr google,but i can not ping google  and using apt-get to install apps.
[11:22] <beginner> is there any application that I can use that will let me enforce how long a user can login into the system ( I am talking about ssh not GUI)
[11:22] <beginner> and also, I don't mean idle
[11:23] <DebiansArmy> beginner: router will allow you to set times not sure about home router...
[11:23] <beginner> I want on the host - not router
[11:24] <beginner> disconnect/logoff
[11:25] <DebiansArmy> beginner: you can set samba or server to disallow access, but logoff not sure were to go with this idea
[11:25] <blinkiz> Hi. I have a PDF file that I need to zoom more than 400% that evince can handle. Any recommendation?
[11:26] <yourmomlovesme> Try xpdf, blinkiz?
[11:26] <beginner> that is not what I need, but thank you anyway =)
[11:26] <bjhaid> jrib: it did not work, how about if i want it to open a terminal and run a command, how can i get that done?
[11:26] <DebiansArmy> beginner: understand completely
[11:26] <urgru> I keep fai ling establishing wireless connection on ubuntu 11.04; PRO/Wireless 3945ABG; windows drivers installed; encryption and ap all tested.
[11:27] <blinkiz> yourmomlovesme, ok, I try
[11:27] <jrib> bjhaid: you replaced "rails" and that "*rack*" command with full path
[11:27] <jrib> bjhaid: ?
[11:27] <haaalp> ok since it's dead in ubuntu-beginners channel i'll ask here. If i choose to install the boot loader on /dev/sda1, will that affect my ntfs partition that i dont want deleted?
[11:28] <iceroot> haaalp: not sda1, use sda
[11:28] <yourmomlovesme> xpdf and gv show up in my graphics folder under applications
[11:28] <jrib> _aaron_: you are getting some errors about some (debconf?) file being used by another process.  Kind of strange, but you need to figure out why
[11:28] <blinkiz> yourmomlovesme, get "Segmentation fault" when trying to open the file with xpdf
[11:28] <iceroot> haaalp: the bootloader goes to the device /dev/sda and not the partiton /dev/sda1
[11:28] <bjhaid> jrib: have a look @ line 4 of my code https://gist.github.com/1146018
[11:28] <yourmomlovesme> Try gv
[11:28] <ultrixx> v
[11:28] <DebiansArmy> blinkiz: take a screenshot and use gimp to get beyond 400+
[11:28] <haaalp> ok, but wont that delete my ntfs partition? :O
[11:28] <jrib> bjhaid: yes, I am looking
[11:28] <shLONG> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-bVOxD7aYo
[11:29] <bjhaid> jrib: that changes dir to where rails s and rackup commands should be run
[11:29] <blinkiz> DebiansArmy, Yeah, tried that. Converted the pdf to png and started to zoom. But the text is not rendered so it's just fuzzy
[11:29] <jrib> bjhaid: if you mean, that should sort out your path issues, it won't.  If you really don't want to use the full path, then you need to change "rackup" to "./rackup" and "rails" to "./rails"
[11:29] <_aaron_> jrib, ok thanks but i'm going to try something different it's been too long since i've used linux not since 5.04
[11:29] <jrib> _aaron_: ok
[11:30] <haaalp> iceroot: wont that delete my ntfs partition that i want to keep? :O
[11:30] <bjhaid> jrib: rails s, and rackup and not files but commands to start up servers
[11:31] <CMoH> is boost-1.41 (development) available somewhere for ubuntu natty?
[11:31] <bjhaid> jrib: /home/abejide/vas/vas/vas.sh: line 6: ./rackup: No such file or directory
[11:31] <bjhaid> /home/abejide/vas/vas/vas.sh: line 7: ./rails: No such file or directory
[11:31] <yourmomlovesme> blinkiz, sudo apt-get install gv
[11:31] <jrib> bjhaid: give the full path then.  Type "which rails" now and replace "rails" in your script with the output.  Do the same for "rackup"
[11:31] <jrib> bjhaid: or are these some sort of aliases?
[11:31] <Polah> haaalp: No, it'll write over your Windows bootloader (if it's still there and which you don't want to keep) with GRUB.
[11:31] <blinkiz> yourmomlovesme, tried gv, but I can not understand how to zoom
[11:32] <yourmomlovesme> Do you see where it says 1.000?
[11:32] <jrib> haaalp: windows is on /dev/sda1?
[11:32] <blinkiz> yourmomlovesme, yes
[11:33] <yourmomlovesme> Click on that and scroll down to 4 or more.
[11:33] <blinkiz> yourmomlovesme, I installed Adobe Reader. I can not zoom up to 6400%
[11:33] <haaalp> jrib: it was, i've formated the C: partition and made it into an ext4
[11:33] <blinkiz> :)
[11:33] <yourmomlovesme> You can do 8 or 10 in the gv default
[11:33] <jrib> haaalp: ok
[11:34] <Polah>  haaalp: What exactly are you trying to do?
[11:35] <haaalp> so now i have like, /dev/sda, /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda5, and /dev/sda5 is the one i dont want deleted when installing ubuntu... Because i keep all my personal/private stuff there.
[11:35] <bjhaid> jrib: adding which rails and which rackup did not work
[11:36] <Polah> haaalp: /dev/sda5 won't be touched unless you tell something to do so
[11:36] <piksi-_> any parental control apps for ubuntu (restrict computer usage time)? timekpr is no longer developed and gnome nanny is far from stable
[11:38] <haaalp> Polah: ok so i should choose "/dev/sda ATA WDC3200AAJS-6 (320.1 gb)" and the ntfs drive wont be changed? :) just need to make sure, because if that get's deleted my whole life will be xD
[11:38] <Polah> haaalp: Are you on the ubuntu installer just now?
[11:38] <yourmomlovesme> Backup your important files, haaalp
[11:38] <DebiansArmy> yourmomlovesme: That is a great time on gv or Gsview thanks :) learned something new today
[11:39] <haaalp> yes, i have chosen the "Something Else" option, and dont know which to choose now, and i would back it up if i could mount the drive but i can't "/
[11:40] <nmepntgrm> haaalp, i think you can mount it
[11:40] <emph> Hi there, I cant seem to get KMS to turn of properly. Tried all possible combinations of boot options (radeon.modeset=0, nomodeset, etc) even tried text which did not work. How should I go about and install Ubuntu with a black screen?
[11:41] <nmepntgrm> mount /dev/sda /mnt
[11:41] <yourmomlovesme> I only know about gv because I've been messing around with a live usb today and needed pdf viewers
[11:41] <DebiansArmy> time = tip
[11:41] <yourmomlovesme> experiment experiment ;)
[11:41] <haaalp> i know i can mount it but i get the error: daemon is inhibited" :S and i've been searching google without finding a good answer
[11:42] <DebiansArmy> yourmomlovesme: Always the best Idea... ;)  That is the reason I don't post questions here I go to ubuntu forums and search around for apps
[11:42] <wildbat1> haaalp: exit gparted first
[11:43] <haaalp> i'm not even in gparted o.O
[11:44] <haaalp> lol, i opened gparted again and closed it then it worked xD
[11:44] <yourmomlovesme> DebiansArmy: I run BackTrack 5 off of a flash drive.  I Scroogle what I want to know.  I tend not to ask questions.
[11:46] <DebiansArmy> yourmomlovesme: Haven't seen to many terminal commands here anymore wonder if grub2 and udev are eliminating hardware issues...???
[11:46] <questionsabout> hi
[11:46] <questionsabout> i need help
[11:47] <MindSpark> hi, is there any way I can edit my fstab before mounting any partition?
[11:47] <yourmomlovesme> DebiansArmy: Ubuntu is slowly getting to the point where anyone can use it.  I find Mint pretty friendly for all that.
[11:47] <MindSpark> there is one webdav mount point I obviously misconfigured, and therefore, the system locks up on boot
[11:47] <questionsabout> i need help
[11:48] <yourmomlovesme> questionsabout: Then ask.
[11:48] <mgolisch> MindSpark: boot in recovery mode?
[11:48] <mgolisch> MindSpark: or boot a livecd
[11:48] <nmepntgrm> MindSpark, you can use live cd to edit fstab
[11:48] <ThinkT510> questionsabout: we can't help if we don't know the problem
[11:48] <questionsabout> i am still using mint
[11:48] <MindSpark> is there any other option?
[11:48] <questionsabout> i like it but i have personnaly problems with the mint owner
[11:48] <MindSpark> my CD-rom's not working
[11:48] <Cyb3rjunk> shoot it..
[11:48] <nmepntgrm> MindSpark
[11:48] <makara> where can i discuss motherboard issues?
[11:48] <nmepntgrm> do you have flash dirve?
[11:49] <MindSpark> I could find one
[11:49] <questionsabout> i am still using mint
[11:49] <DebiansArmy> yourmomlovesme: That is generally what I tend to run is Linux Mint because of the intelligent desktop even though most people don"t realize that  I can run any ubuntu code on mint
[11:49] <ThinkT510> questionsabout: this is ubuntu support
[11:49] <questionsabout> i like it but i have personnaly problems with the mint owner
[11:49] <yourmomlovesme> questionsabout: That's not a question.
[11:49] <questionsabout> shpuld i change to ubuntu or can i use mint although problems
[11:49] <nmepntgrm> MindSpark, you can use Damn Small linux
[11:49] <nmepntgrm> boot it in flash drive
[11:49] <MindSpark> nmepntgrm: alright, I'll give that a shot
[11:50] <MindSpark> thanks
[11:50] <jrib> questionsabout: try both and use what you like... why are we still discussing your issues with mint in #ubuntu...?
[11:50] <yourmomlovesme> questionsabout: Get a flash drive, go to pendrivelinux.com and try out different distributions
[11:50] <ThinkT510> questionsabout: what on earth does your relationship with another human have to do with what distro you use?
[11:50] <Cyb3rjunk> nmepntgrm: i would recommand Puppy over DSL
[11:50] <questionsabout> thinkt510 he is owner and master of linuxmint
[11:50] <questionsabout> thinkt510 he is leader
[11:50] <ThinkT510> questionsabout: and..
[11:50] <jrib> questionsabout: this isn't relevant to ubuntu, please take it elsewhere
[11:51] <nmepntgrm> Cyb3rjunk, thanks for recommending
[11:51] <questionsabout> ok thanks
[11:51] <unfuquitable> anybody find a good media center for 11.04
[11:51] <Cyb3rjunk> It's ok
[11:51] <ultrixx> questionsabout: go switch to windows and leave this channel alone
[11:51] <questionsabout> no
[11:51] <envygeeks> ThinkT510: apparently a lot, do some research about the name behind Debian ;)
[11:51] <Myrtti> ultrixx: when helping, be helpful...
[11:51] <Cyb3rjunk> questionsabout use personal message
[11:51] <Pici> unfuquitable: xbmc is pretty good, although it does have its own quirks.
[11:51] <yourmomlovesme> DebiansArmy: I like BackTrack.  I'll like it more once I figure out all its goodies.  Most distros use Ubuntu these days because they're getting all the hardware support.
[11:52] <ultrixx> Myrtti: he is trolling for a long time now
[11:52] <questionsabout> and whats the best UBUNTU !!!!9.04 or 9.10
[11:52] <Myrtti> ultrixx: don't make it worse then
[11:52] <unfuquitable> how do i get it for this i can't find a working ppa.
[11:52] <jrib> questionsabout: 10.04 for LTS, 11.04 for latest stable
[11:52] <envygeeks> 9.10 was so buggy, I absolutely despised the 9 point days
[11:52] <Cyb3rjunk> yourmomlovesme : bt 5 is good
[11:52] <yourmomlovesme> questionsabout: Do you have any real questions - or are you a troll or 12 years old?
[11:52] <ultrixx> i can't believe you feed this troll
[11:53] <questionsabout> jrib: i do not need rockstable but i want stable and enw
[11:53] <questionsabout> new
[11:53] <coz_> questionsabout,   10.04
[11:53] <questionsabout> for daily usage
[11:53] <questionsabout> e
[11:53] <questionsabout> ok
[11:53] <questionsabout> ok
[11:53] <DebiansArmy> yourmomlovesme: Agree, but Ubuntu and Debian have had to backtrack on ideas such as sysv-rc.conf... My worry is there getting to big to fast
[11:53] <HenrikJ> Hi, Anyone know  - can I transfer private ssh and gpg keys to a new computer or are they dependant on hardware ?
[11:54] <questionsabout> no henrikj
[11:54] <sipior> HenrikJ: move them anywhere you like.
[11:54] <Pici> HenrikJ: yes you can trasfer them, no not dependent on anything
[11:54] <Cyb3rjunk> DebiansArmy: yea, anyway which version of Backtrack u use ?
[11:54] <Pici> !ot
[11:54] <envygeeks> questionabout: you can also backport from 11.10 using prevu, like I always backport the latest metacity from the latest ubuntu into 10.04 so I can run the latest upated themes
[11:55] <yourmomlovesme> DebiansArmy: Once more developers figure out that they can actually sell software through Ubuntu the issues won't be as bad.
[11:55] <jstoone> Hi guys, Im playing around with Wireshark, because I'm writing an article about network security I would like to analyse some packages that I got from Wireshark. Now that I've started and have been "captureing" for a while. I just want to know what to export it as, so that I can re open it
[11:55] <questionsabout> i need kernel 2.6.33 at least in 10.04
[11:55] <questionsabout> i need kernel 2.6.33 at least in 10.04
[11:56] <DebiansArmy> Cyb3rjunk: Not me that would be yourmomlovesme I am Still 2 distro's from finishing all major distro's ... I got Slackware and Gentoo left...
[11:56] <Kreative`> questionsabout, if you want to be taken seriously, ask your question decently, without spamming as for your question
[11:56] <yourmomlovesme> jstoone: Use BackTrack 5 for network analysis.  It has a lot more than just Wireshark and it's all built in.
[11:56] <HenrikJ> questionsabout, sipior , Pici, thx -  great to know :-)
[11:56] <Kreative`> You can use a program called KernelCheck
[11:56] <Kreative`> It'll compile the latest kernel for you.
[11:56] <questionsabout> i need kernel 2.6.33 at least in 10.04
[11:56] <questionsabout> can i install it by linux-image-lts-backport
[11:56] <yourmomlovesme> I like Mint for most things, but I'm still mainly a 7 user.
[11:57] <Cyb3rjunk> DebiansArmy: how is gentoo ?
[11:57] <questionsabout> debiansarmy:
[11:57] <questionsabout> !ot
[11:57] <Pici> yourmomlovesme: Again: This channel is for Ubuntu support only. If you want to chat, feel free to join the rest of us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:57] <bjhaid> jrib: when i specify the full path for rails and rackup, it returns error since they both do not run with root privileges
[11:57] <m_rite> can i make a launcher start the applicatin in fullscreen?
[11:57] <jrib> bjhaid: what error?
[11:58] <bjhaid> /home/abejide/.rvm/rubies/ruby-1.9.2-p180/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/dependency.rb:247:in `to_specs': Could not find rack (>= 0) amongst [minitest-1.6.0, rake-0.8.7, rdoc-2.5.8] (Gem::LoadError)
[11:58] <bjhaid> 	from /home/abejide/.rvm/rubies/ruby-1.9.2-p180/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/dependency.rb:256:in `to_spec'
[11:58] <bjhaid> 	from /home/abejide/.rvm/rubies/ruby-1.9.2-p180/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.9.1/rubygems.rb:1182:in `gem'
[11:58] <bjhaid> 	from /home/abejide/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p180/bin/rackup:18:in `<main>'
[11:58] <FloodBot1> bjhaid: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:58] <jrib> bjhaid: are you saying your script needs to be run as root?
[11:58] <DebiansArmy> Cyb3rjunk: we are going to have to go off topic or get a boot
[11:58] <yourmomlovesme> Pici: Mint and BT5 both use Ubuntu.  If that's off-topic then I don't know what the topic really is.
[11:58] <questionsabout> i need kernel 2.6.33 at least in 10.04
[11:59] <bjhaid> jrib: i am saying it doesnt require root privilege, it should be run as an ordinary user
[11:59] <Kreative`> questionsabout, re-read my above statement.
[11:59] <jrib> bjhaid: and how did you run them?
[11:59] <Kreative`> Use KernelCheck, it'll automatically update you to 2.6.39
[11:59] <bjhaid> jrib: i run them as rails s (from terminal, without sudo)
[11:59] <Kreative`> And soon 3.0
[11:59] <jrib> bjhaid: ok so that's being run as your user, not root
[12:00] <bjhaid> jrib: once sudo is added it wouldnt run
[12:00] <jrib> bjhaid: I didn't say to add sudo
[12:00] <bjhaid> jrib: i never added sudo
[12:00] <jrib> bjhaid: I am confused.
[12:00] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:00] <bjhaid> jrib: i dumped the file in /usr/bin, and that path requires root permission to execute files
[12:01] <jrib> bjhaid: no it doesn't
[12:01] <bjhaid> and when i dump the file in my home folder, it would return error (file not found)
[12:01] <jrib> bjhaid: pastebin what your script currently looks like
[12:01] <DebiansArmy> yourmomlovesme: don't bother trying they don't get Debian or linux understanding just go offtopic
[12:01] <usr13> bjhaid: What are you trying to do?
[12:02] <usr13> Yes, let us see your script
[12:02] <bjhaid> usr13: https://gist.github.com/1146018
[12:02] <bjhaid> jrib: https://gist.github.com/1146018
[12:03] <sweet> now iam using greenstone in linux but i coudnt open the collection is there any one to help me?
[12:03] <jrib> bjhaid: and what happens when you execute it now?
[12:03] <bjhaid> usr13: What i am trying to achieve is that with my current script, once i type bash /vas/vas/vas.sh start it starts 2 servers, and i need that script to run at start up
[12:04] <usr13> bjhaid: ls ~/vas/vas  #In a terminal, and show us what it says.
[12:04] <usr13> or tell us
[12:04] <usr13> bjhaid: But first, find out if it works.  If it does not work, fix it.
[12:05] <bjhaid> usr13: i just added that to the gist, and that script works, getting it to run @ startup is the issue
[12:06] <jrib> bjhaid: you must have something in your bashrc that modifies script behavior
[12:07] <usr13> bjhaid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[12:07] <bjhaid> jrib: i did chmod u+x on my script
[12:07] <sweet> now iam using greenstone in linux but i coudnt open the collection is there any one to help me?
[12:07] <bazhang> sweet, in linux? what is greenstone, and what version of Ubuntu
[12:08] <jrib> bjhaid: pastebin « env » output from your shell now.  Then add « env > ~/test » to your script and pastebin what it says after startup
[12:08] <jrib> usr13: he wants to run it as his user
[12:08] <systemclient> given that my package was accepted into debian unstable, what do I have to do to get it into ubuntu?
[12:08] <jrib> systemclient: wait :P  (or go to #ubuntu-motu)
[12:08] <usr13> jrib: O, I see.
[12:09] <systemclient> jrib: wait until 11.10?
[12:09] <bjhaid> jrib: should i paste the result of env?
[12:09] <jrib> systemclient: depending on when your package entered unstable, you may need to take action to guarantee it is in 11.10
[12:10] <jrib> bjhaid: both results,  yes
[12:10] <systemclient> jrib: it entered a couple days ago
[12:10] <jrib> systemclient: I don't know the specifics, #ubuntu-motu is very helpful though :D
[12:10] <systemclient> jrib: I already asked there. ty
[12:10] <usr13> bjhaid: Are you running GUI, if so, yu can create bin of your own,  mkdir ~/bin  Put your script there, and add it to the list of startup apps.
[12:11] <jrib> !packaging | systemclient
[12:11] <jrib> systemclient: that NewPackages link may or may not be helpful too
[12:11] <bjhaid> urs13: let me give that a try
[12:11] <usr13> bjhaid: May also want to add ~/bin to your path, but if you use the full path, it's not necessary.
[12:11] <systemclient> jrib: thanks for all the info. The package itself is all done in debian now, I just want to know when and how it will come to ubuntu. But I'll ask that in motu
[12:17] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[12:17] <Tetracomm> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/user/ppa-name/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[12:17] <Tetracomm> Help?
[12:18] <Gentoo64> it means its not there
[12:18] <astraljava> Tetracomm: ppa-name should probably be a real PPA name?
[12:18] <astraljava> I doubt there's one like that.
[12:18] <astraljava> Also, user.
[12:20] <bjhaid> jrib: i log out and logged in got this error, though i just pasted the env > ~/test @ https://gist.github.com/1146018
[12:20] <jrib> bjhaid: I need you to put that in your script
[12:21] <sweet> is there any one who is familar with greenstone in linux please iam in trouble  can you help me?
[12:21] <Tetracomm> Thank you astraljava.
[12:21] <Tetracomm> i removed it.
[12:21] <bazhang> sweet, what version of ubuntu, what is greenstone
[12:21] <jrib> bjhaid: alternatively, you may consider whether your interactive bash terminal is setup for ruby differently than your non-interactive terminals.
[12:21] <BluesKaj> bjhaid, this page may help, http://bashshell.net/shell-scripts/creating-startup-scripts-with-bash/
[12:21] <bazhang> sweet, please answer my question
[12:21] <jrib> sweet: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[12:21] <usr13> Tetracomm: If you look at the path, you find that it is an example.  The /user/ppa-name/  part.  You see?
[12:21]  * jrib did not see bazhang there :P
[12:22] <Tetracomm> usr13: Yes.
[12:22] <bjhaid> jrib: i put it in my script, check the result @ https://gist.github.com/1146018
[12:22] <sweet> bazhang:ubuntu10.04 and greenstone 2.83
[12:22] <bazhang> sweet, what is greenstone
[12:22] <jrib> bazhang: your script doesn't have any mention of "env" in it :/
[12:22] <jrib> erm
[12:22] <jrib> bjhaid: your script doesn't have any mention of "env" in it :/
[12:23] <bazhang> jrib, heh tab fail
[12:23] <sweet> bazhang:digital libarary
[12:23] <bjhaid> jrib: i didnt paste the script all over, just edited what i had online, i edited it locally
[12:23] <bazhang> sweet, whats the actual question
[12:24] <jrib> bjhaid: and then you pasted the contents of test?  Right after startup without writing ot it?
[12:24] <bjhaid> jrib: i ran the command and pasted it
[12:25] <jrib> bjhaid: I need you to have "env > ~/test" in your script, have the script run at startup, pastebin the contents of "test" without running anything
[12:25] <bjhaid> jrib: but after restart i had this error in xsession-errors, bash: ~/bin/vas.sh: No such file or directory
[12:25] <sweet> bazhang:just the problem is i was using the softwrae but now i coudnt open and creat  any collection ?
[12:25] <rileyp> HI Do I need alsa oss for sound in firefox?
[12:26] <bazhang> sweet, where was greenstone installed from?
[12:26] <jrib> bjhaid: does  ~/bin/vas.sh exist?
[12:26] <osmosis_paul> Somebody here has used remote JMeter tests????
[12:26] <bjhaid> jrib: yes
[12:26] <jrib> bjhaid: in startup manager, do not use "~"
[12:26] <rileyp> speaker test -c 6 works but sound in firefox or vlc    I'm stumped
[12:26] <sweet> bazhang:you mean
[12:26] <bjhaid> jrib: what do i use?
[12:26] <jrib> bjhaid: /home/whatever
[12:26] <bazhang> sweet, pardon?
[12:27] <bazhang> sweet, is this from synaptic package manager? Ubuntu software center? or some 3rd party software
[12:27] <sweet> 3rd party softawre
[12:28] <sweet> bazhang:3rd party softtware
[12:28] <bazhang> sweet, ask their support forums, read their documents
[12:28] <sweet> k
[12:28] <sweet> bazhang:can you tell me any midea converster
[12:29] <rileyp> I have sound over hdmi working in myth and xbmc and speaker test -c 6 works  and I have a .asound.rc Do I need alsa oss as well?
[12:30] <coz_> rileyp,  are there any issues with sound at all?
[12:30] <rileyp> coz yes no sound in firefox or vlc
[12:30] <bjhaid> jrib: error again bash: /home/abejide/bin/vas.sh: No such file or directory
[12:31] <usr13> rileyp: does sound work from other apps?
[12:31] <jrib> bjhaid: then the file does not exist
[12:31] <Orwell> Anyone understand LFI vulnerability?
[12:31] <coz_> rileyp,  ah   ,,, in vlc go to Tools preferences Audio  Output mode and change it there
[12:31] <thrillERboy> Hi, How to disable touchpad while typing? I have this feature in my touchpad, it works in windows 7, but doesn't work in Ubuntu, Pls Help
[12:31] <Orwell> I have a question about using a null char
[12:31] <Pici> Orwell: ##security might be a good place to ask.
[12:31] <coz_> rileyp,  in firefox I am not sure unless you dont have flash installed
[12:31] <rileyp> I have even set in vlc my device and stilll no sound   and yes I have dolby true hd working in mythtv and every other format know to man and beast
[12:31] <Orwell> Ah.. okay
[12:31] <jrib> !synaptics | thrillERboy
[12:32] <Orwell> I have to register to enter?
[12:32] <subz3r0> does anyone know how i can get nautilus to search for invisible files? even with ctrl+h then ctrl+f wont work, hidden files wont be listed...
[12:32] <thrillERboy> thanks jrib
[12:32] <Pici> Orwell: looks like it.
[12:32] <usr13> rileyp: Test:  cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp   #Ctrl-c to stop it.
[12:32] <Pici> !register | Orwell
[12:32] <Guest27780> Hello. I am completely new to Linux and have just installed XUbuntu. I must say that it seems to be a great operating system and works just fine on my eePC.
[12:32] <subz3r0> ofc i can use the shell, but thats not what i want...
[12:32] <usr13> Orwell: no
[12:32] <Pici> usr13: yes.
[12:32] <jrib> Guest27780: welcome
[12:32] <usr13> Pici: I thought he was talking about here.
[12:33] <subz3r0> Guest27780, do /nick yourname, like /nick superman :)
[12:33] <Pici> usr13: clearly not ;)
[12:33] <rileyp> Sound in firesfox was working and then it stopped yesterday and does no longer want to play ball
[12:33] <luxguy> like this? :-)
[12:33] <usr13> rileyp: But do you have sound at all is the question.  Did you test to see?
[12:34] <rileyp> usr13 bash: /dev/dsp: Permission denied
[12:34] <usr13> rileyp: Ok, there you go.
[12:34] <rileyp> groups
[12:34] <rileyp> dad adm dialout cdrom audio video plugdev admin mythtv sambashare lpadmin
[12:34] <coz_> rileyp,  what happened between firefox working and not working?  did you install anything new? configure something differently?
[12:34] <subz3r0> luxguy, welcome to the party :)
[12:34] <usr13> rileyp: Have you added a new user?
[12:35] <subz3r0> luxguy, btw. im using ubuntu on my eeepc(11.04 - natty)
[12:35] <ericP> any ideas why the network widget in my gnome-panel sometimes stops responding?
[12:35] <luxguy> Have to say that up to now I did not encounter any driver issues and XUbuntu just looks amazing.
[12:35] <ericP> usually accompanied by a network hiccup. `gnome-panel --replace` sometimes fixes it but not e.g. this time
[12:35] <sweet> bazhang:please tell me i coudnt install it ffmepg?
[12:35] <usr13>  rileyp grep audio /etc/group
[12:35] <usr13> Do you see your user name there?
[12:36] <subz3r0> luxguy, yep, almost everything just runs out of the box. Only some FN-Keys wont work for me like in windows
[12:36] <rileyp> coz_ am the user dad no changes was using grooveshark and it just stopped  ... I havent been changing config settings system has been solid.
[12:37] <rileyp> usr13 audio:x:29:mythtv,dad
[12:37] <usr13> rileyp: Which user are you logged in as now?
[12:37] <luxguy> You are right, FN keys do not work at all. Also I noted that the battery life time is half than on Windows XP.
[12:37] <rileyp> usr13 dad@ion2:~$
[12:37] <theadmin> luxguy: Not if you configure powermanagement properly
[12:38] <theadmin> luxguy: And many fn keys do work usually, like volume, brightness, touchpad enable/disable, wi-fi enable/disable...
[12:38] <theadmin> luxguy: Those always work for me
[12:38] <usr13> rileyp: alsamixer
[12:38] <subz3r0> theadmin, thats not rly true, there  is a problem with the new kernel
[12:38] <theadmin> subz3r0: Oh.
[12:38] <rileyp> usr13 just thinking I use a keyboard shortcut to start firefox most of the time could this make root run firefox?
[12:39] <theadmin> subz3r0: "new" kernel? I thought Ubuntu is still on 2.6.x
[12:39] <subz3r0> bleh
[12:39] <subz3r0> guess u know exactly what i meant.
[12:39] <rileyp> alsamixer is unmuted speaker-test -c 6 works fine
[12:39] <subz3r0> energyloss is  up to 30%
[12:39] <haosdent> omg! Moto + Google
[12:39] <Pici> !ot | haosdent
[12:39] <luxguy> is there any specific driver that needs to be installed for the FN keys?
[12:39] <rileyp> usr13 alsamixer is unmuted speaker-test -c 6 works fine
[12:39] <usr13> rileyp: Forget about Firefox for now.  Run  alsamixer  In a terminal. First see if there are cahnnels on the screen.  Next look in upper left corner to see that your sound card is identified.
[12:40] <subz3r0> luxguy, no, normaly as theadmin mentioned, many of them should work.
[12:40] <rly> What is the most supported open file format for contacts which also has applications on Ubuntu?
[12:40] <theadmin> luxguy: It's a bug ; it'll be fixed in the future
[12:40] <luxguy> the only FN key that works for me is to disable the screen. All the interesting ones like WIFI, Volume and brightness do not work.
[12:40] <Kartagis> how come file says my mp3 file is 128kbps while rhythmbox says it's 96?
[12:41] <subz3r0> luxguy, that key wont work for me, others work :P
[12:41] <rly> Kartagis: file might suck?
[12:41] <usr13> rileyp: Do you see your sound card identified correctly in upper left corner?  Compare with   lspci  |grep audio
[12:41] <khf> joo
[12:41] <gambi> app armor is keeping mysql from loading innodb on my machine how can I change this? i've already added the paths for the plugin to the /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.mysqld and restarted app armor tons of times via: invoke-rc.d apparmor reload What am I missing?
[12:42] <prod_> hi all, i could do with some help. Im trying to fix my broken Xorg.conf so i have booted a live CD but cannot find Xorg.conf file
[12:42] <subz3r0> prod_, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:42] <usr13> prod_: Live CD will not use xorg.conf  file.
[12:42] <rileyp> usr13 lspci  |grep audio returns nothing?
[12:42] <freysteinn> How can I make Ubuntu 11.04 not make my monitor dim after a while?
[12:42] <jellow> Silly question is there a way to get firefox to only use one interface like eth0 while have tun0 for everything else?
[12:43] <usr13> prod_:   Basically, the way it works now-days is that you only need xorg.conf file if you have a proprietary driver.
[12:43] <subz3r0> freysteinn, energy options
[12:43] <coz_> freysteinn,   open the screensaver dialog and untick both boxes  starting with the bottom one first
[12:43] <usr13> rileyp: lspci | pastebinit
[12:43] <silv3r_m00n> I need to install some locales , which package in synaptic has locales ?
[12:43] <usr13> let us see
[12:43] <silv3r_m00n> those which are seen here >> locale -a
[12:43] <Kartagis> rly: you mean the command or the mp3 file?
[12:44] <prod_> ok, I am using nvidia prop driver and cannot access my OS as all displays dont work
[12:44] <rileyp> usr13 it is onboard nvidia hdmi and in alsamixer  it appears as  HDA NVidia Nvidia GPU 0b HDMI/DP
[12:44] <prod_> any idea how i would fix this?
[12:44] <rly> Kartagis: the command.
[12:44] <alienkid10> is there a Windows XP and MS office 07 keyfinder that runs on Ubuntu?
[12:44] <rly> Kartagis: it makes sense, doesn't it?
[12:44] <Kartagis> yeah
[12:45] <rly> Kartagis: rhythmbox likely is more specialized in mp3 then file.
[12:45] <rly> than*
[12:45] <usr13> rileyp: Look through the output of lspci for correct/complete identification.
[12:45] <usr13> if any
[12:45] <rly> Kartagis: you could still report it somewhere as a bug.
[12:45] <rly> Kartagis: it should not happen, obviously.
[12:45] <rileyp> usr13 Audio device: nVidia Corporation High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
[12:45] <prod_> what will happen if i deleted my broken xorg.conf via ssh?
[12:45] <Kartagis> rly: file of rhythmbox quesue?
[12:45] <freysteinn> subz3r0 & coz_: I have both check boxes unchecked in "Screensaver Preferences", and I have "On AC Power", "Put computer to sleep when inactive for: Never", and "Display: Put display to sleep when inactive for: Never". But I still get a dim screen after around 10 min.
[12:46] <freysteinn> I have restarted the computer.
[12:46] <Kartagis> queque*
[12:46] <usr13> rileyp: What do you see in the upper left corner of alsamixer ?
[12:46] <Kartagis> queue*
[12:46] <coz_> freysteinn,  take a screenshot of the screensaver dialog  ,, upload to picpaste.com and let me see it
[12:46] <usr13> I should have used  lspci |grep -i audio
[12:46] <rly> Kartagis: what queue?
[12:47] <rileyp> usr13 as above  card: HDA NVidiaa  top line second line Chip:Nvidia GPU 0b HDMI/DP
[12:47] <Kartagis> rly: which queue should I report this to?
[12:47] <rileyp> usr13 I a in nvidia sorry
[12:47] <usr13> rileyp: Is this a desktop PC  or a laptop?
[12:47] <usr13> rileyp: Does it have more than one sound card?
[12:48] <rileyp> ion2 net top
[12:48] <alienkid10> I need to the the Windows and office keys for a unbootable Windows partition how can I get them from a LiveCD?
[12:48] <rileyp> usr13 ion2 yes it has 2 cards intel hda as well
[12:48] <usr13> rileyp: and when you issue command:   cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp
[12:48] <rly> Kartagis: you have to report it for the 'file' package (that is the name).
[12:49] <rly> Kartagis: you can do that on Lauchpad.
[12:49] <xangua> alienkid10: sounds like a windows supprot question, in ##windows you will get more useful help about that
[12:49] <rly> Kartagis: also attach the mp3 file or a small part of it.
[12:49] <usr13> rileyp: ... you get error that you don't have permission to /dev/dsp   Right?
[12:49] <rileyp> usr13 cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp                      bash: /dev/dsp: Permission denied
[12:49] <coz_> freysteinn,   does the dialog look like this?   http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/screenshots/Screenshot-Screensaver%20Preferences.png
[12:49] <rly> Kartagis: also mention that rhythmbox does it differently.
[12:49] <Kartagis> alienkid10: mount the partition and read regedit is your best bet
[12:49] <prod_> crap doesnt look like i had openssh-server installed
[12:49] <sweet> is ther any nice midea converetr?
[12:49] <freysteinn> coz_: http://www.picpaste.com/Screenshot-9wRiyxLQ.png
[12:49] <Kartagis> rly: okay thanks
[12:50] <usr13> rileyp:  ls -l /dev/dsp
[12:50] <alienkid10> thoguht since it was a Linux related question someone here would know xangua but will go to ##windows
[12:50] <coz_> freysteinn,  yep that is correct
[12:50] <xangua> sweet: ffmpeg ¿ i think that is called
[12:50] <coz_> freysteinn,  let me check something , hold on
[12:50] <usr13> rileyp: Show me the output of  ls -l /dev/dsp
[12:51] <rileyp> usr13 dad@ion2:~$ ls -l /dev/dsp                 ls: cannot access /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[12:51] <CMoH> hey. is there any libboost-dev-1.41.0 package available for ubuntu natty?
[12:51] <usr13> rileyp: Just a sec
[12:51] <ridha> ya m3allem
[12:51] <rileyp> usr13 I have seen this error before in mythtv frontend log and other places
[12:51] <ridha> hello
[12:51] <coz_> freysteinn,   is this a laptop?
[12:52] <lanceulot> hi. I need some support. I've installed ubuntu 11.04 (notebook asus k52f) and wifi doesn't working at all. It connect to my modem but when I open any site or service it isn't work. can you help me or get any links, please?
[12:52] <usr13> rileyp: sudo apt-get install oss-compat
[12:52] <Pici> CMoH: libboost-dev in Natty is version 1.42.0.1ubuntu1
[12:52] <freysteinn> coz_: No, but it's so small that it might have something in common with them.
[12:52] <CMoH> Pici, i need the older one for development on some application though;
[12:52] <CMoH> so i was wondering if someone packaged it in some package repository
[12:52] <coz_> freysteinn,  ok go to system settings...power management..."On battery power"  tab  and  disable "Dim display when idle"
[12:53] <staropram> Does there exist a desktop client that can talk to Exchange ActiveSync servers?
[12:53] <skim1776> how to delete a program if I built it with make from source code?
[12:53] <coz_> skim1776,  do you still have the source directory
[12:53] <staropram> I know it is some crappy proprietary protocol that needs licensing, but maybe some effort is underway? I've been searching all day but can't find anything that works.
[12:53] <skim1776> coz_, yes
[12:53] <rileyp> usr13 Im logged into alsa but no one chatting and results of apt -get FATAL: Module snd_seq_oss not found.  FATAL: Module snd_mixer_oss not found. FATAL: Module snd_pcm_oss not found.
[12:53] <amin`> i want to add the num lock on script to lightdm and i have  I have this in etc/lightdm/{key.conf, lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf, lightdm.conf, users.conf} . to which I should I add it?
[12:53] <xangua> skim1776: follow the uninstall instruccions that came in the source
[12:53] <sweet> xangua i think it is not graphical tell me if any?
[12:53] <coz_> skim1776,   ok from terminal  cd to that directory and then  sudo make uninstall
[12:54] <freysteinn> coz_: I only have "Put display to sleep when inactive for:", as seen on the pic.
[12:54] <xangua> sweet: there are lots of guis for it, Arista is one that comes to my mind
[12:54] <coz_> freysteinn,  mm  hold on
[12:54] <skim1776> sudo make uninstall doesn't work
[12:54] <ikonia> skim1776: it doesn't always, it depends on the specific software
[12:55] <sweet> xangua:Aristais that graphical
[12:55] <rly> ikonia: is there some easy way to setup openldap?
[12:55] <ikonia> rly: define easy ?
[12:56] <rileyp> usr13 I use hmdi for sound and Its  raw sound over hdmi.  I use volume on receiver to adjust volume
[12:56] <rly> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html
[12:56] <rly> ikonia: not as long as that.
[12:56] <ikonia> rly: no, that's quite a good guide
[12:56] <usr13> rileyp: Hummm.. not sure about all this.
[12:56] <skim1776> so for each program we have to google how to delete it?
[12:56] <rly> ikonia: but it seems horribly long for what it does.
[12:56] <ikonia> skim1776: no, you're supposed to use a package manager, not build from source
[12:56] <usr13> rileyp: Not sure why oss-compat is not in your repos
[12:56] <rly> ikonia: all I want is a server which stores a database to which I can send queries.
[12:57] <rly> ikonia: I don't see why it has to be so complicated.
[12:57] <usr13> rileyp: lsb_release -a
[12:57] <skim1776> package manager? you mean Software Center?
[12:57] <rileyp> usr13 Setting up oss-compat (0.0.4+nmu3) ...and then the fatal errors as above
[12:57] <ikonia> rly: if you read that guide, you can skip parts of it, as they are specific directories it sets up
[12:57] <ikonia> rly: if you can't understand that, then you shouldn't be using it, as it's not a database, it's a directory
[12:57] <rly> ikonia: ok, can I also use an ip address instead of a FQDN?
[12:57] <coz_> freysteinn,   open  gconf-editor
[12:57] <usr13> rileyp: apt-get -f install
[12:57] <ikonia> rly: a fqdn is better as it normally maps to the DC
[12:58] <coz_> freysteinn,   look under /apps/gnome-power-manager
[12:58] <rly> ikonia: what is a DC?
[12:58] <Pici> rly: Are you sure that you want LDAP? It sounds like you just want to install a databse server.
[12:58] <rly> ikonia: I just want to use it on my LAN for now.
[12:58] <coz_> freysteinn,   you may be able to completely disable it from there
[12:58] <rileyp> usr13  lsb_release -a and I have installed alsa 1.024 maybe I.m misinga few things
[12:58] <Sebo> Hi, I need to set up /etc/init/*.conf file for the job and I am thinking of proper *start on* and *stop on* stanzas. The job which I am defining will be responsible for running vboxheadless VM machine which I am going to assign one of the tty* terminals to (I am going to modify the /etc/init/tty4.conf so it will ssh to that VM). Could you direct me how to prepare that stanzas to make the VBox job starting and stopping at right order?
[12:58] <ikonia> rly: ok - you need to research ldap a bit more before jumping in
[12:58] <rly> Pici: I want to have a good address book.
[12:58] <rly> Pici: something which will last for 30+ years into the future.
[12:58] <rly> Pici: something easy to sync, etc.
[12:58] <Pici> rly: LDAP is not an address book.
[12:59] <rileyp> usr13 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[12:59] <ikonia> rly: for how many users will be using it ?
[12:59] <usr13> rileyp: I think you are correct.  YOu are missing a few things.
[12:59] <rly> ikonia: less than 10.
[12:59] <ikonia> rly: then ldap is overkill
[12:59] <coz_> freysteinn,   under that is  "backlight"  with an  idle_dim_time,, that may be it
[12:59] <skim1776> ikonia, is that ubuntu software center?
[12:59] <ikonia> rly: more so if you don't really know what you're doing with it
[12:59] <usr13> rileyp: What does  "lsb_release -a"  return?
[12:59] <ikonia> skim1776: that is one method, yes
[12:59] <Pici> rly: sorry, I should clarify. LDAP could be an address book, but it is really so much more powerful than that.
[12:59] <skim1776> ikonia, thanks
[13:00] <rly> Pici: sure, but I only care about the addressbook now.
[13:00] <rly> Pici, ikonia: other suggestions welcome.
[13:00] <rly> (e.g. alternatives)
[13:00] <freysteinn> coz_: Thanks. Checking if it worked.
[13:00] <rileyp> usr13 its natty 11.04 sorry wrong paste...
[13:00] <coz_> freysteinn,  cool
[13:00] <coz_> freysteinn,   let me know
[13:00] <ikonia> rly: many small database or flat file database (eg: sqlite) applications out there
[13:01] <rileyp> usr13 would you like an asla.sh pastebin?
[13:01] <rileyp> ls
[13:01] <rly> ikonia: many sounds like zero if you don't suggest anything specific.
[13:01] <olzhas> hey guys
[13:01] <rly> ikonia: I have seen LDAP work in larger organisations.
[13:01] <usr13> rileyp:  Yes, and then:   Try   sudo apt-get install oss-compat  again.
[13:01] <olzhas> what is Soyuz?
[13:01] <ikonia> rly: correct, in larger orginisations
[13:02] <xangua> olzhas: rusian spaceship¿
[13:03] <olzhas> xangua, very funny
[13:03] <sipior> olzhas: if you want a better answer, provide some context. lazy questions get lazy answers.
[13:03] <Pici> olzhas: iirc, it is what controls the package building on Launchpad.
[13:04] <olzhas> sipior, this is ubuntu support channel, there is like a context here.
[13:04] <rileyp> usr13 pastebin busy but.... http://paste2.org/p/1586849
[13:04] <olzhas> Pici, thank you
[13:04] <Pici> olzhas: #launchpad might be a better place to ask more specific inquiries, although it is by no means as busy as this channel.
[13:05] <questionsabout> hello i need help
[13:05] <olzhas> Pici, many thanks
[13:05] <questionsabout> which ubuntu version to use
[13:05] <rly> ikonia: I want something which does not suck, LDAP is proven technology. I don't know whether OpenLDAP is, though.
[13:05] <iceroot> rly: openldap is
[13:05] <ikonia> rly: there are many that don't suck if you do a little research,
[13:05] <vbnj> hello, who can tell me how to prevent a program from accessing network on Ubuntu ?
[13:05] <ikonia> rly: ldap is fine - IF you know what you're doing with it
[13:06] <usr13> rileyp: Is this system fully updated?
[13:06] <questionsabout> which ubuntu version to use
[13:06] <rileyp> usr13 no errors now with oss compat
[13:06] <edbian> vbnj: That's what a firewall is used for (or just don't run or uninstall that program)
[13:06] <edbian> questionsabout: 11.04 or 10.04
[13:06] <questionsabout> ok what betrer edbian
[13:06] <rileyp> usr13 yes
[13:06] <edbian> questionsabout: define 'better'
[13:06] <amin`> i want to add the num lock on script to lightdm and i have  I have this in etc/lightdm/{key.conf, lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf, lightdm.conf, users.conf} . to which I should I add it?
[13:06] <edbian> questionsabout: 11.04 is newer, 10.04 is more stable
[13:06] <vbnj> edbian : can ufw block entire programs/process/child-processes ?
[13:06] <questionsabout> edbian can not decide between both
[13:07] <questionsabout> can i use ub untu 10.10 or did it not rent anymore
[13:07] <edbian> vbnj: It doesn't block based on processes but rather what port they're talking on (which is usually as good)
[13:07] <iceroot> questionsabout: there is no reason to use 10.10
[13:07] <usr13> rileyp: Looking at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/saydate/+bug/723790
[13:07] <questionsabout> because lifecycle
[13:07] <ThinkT510> questionsabout: seriously, you've asked these questions over and over for the past few hours, stop it
[13:07] <iceroot> questionsabout: use 11.04 for the newest release, use 10.04 for an lts release
[13:07] <edbian> questionsabout: you can use 10.10 but there is little advantage to
[13:07] <questionsabout> iceroot: unity
[13:07] <vbnj> edbian : clock-applet, conky, and gweater are using port 80
[13:07] <iceroot> !classic | questionsabout
[13:07] <questionsabout> y
[13:07] <rly> ikonia:I also don't see why there is a need for a FQDN.
[13:07] <edbian> vbnj: what?
[13:08] <vbnj> edbian, i can't reasonably block p.80
[13:08] <rly> ikonia: what is wrong with an internal ip address.
[13:08] <edbian> vbnj: how sure are you?
[13:08] <questionsabout> y
[13:08] <rly> ikonia: ?
[13:08] <vbnj> edbian : netstat -pn | grep tcp
[13:08] <rly> ikonia: that's what I don't like about these tutorials; they assume things about your setup.
[13:08] <ThinkT510> Pici: thank you, he wasn't listening to answers
[13:08] <Pici> ThinkT510: you're welcome
[13:09] <Pici> rly: You can use an FQDN that exists within your network, it doesn't need to be world adressable.
[13:09] <rafet> hi there :)
[13:09] <rafet> wich server software can i use in ubuntu, to make an irc server?
[13:09] <edbian> vbnj: good test...
[13:09] <Pici> vbnj: By the way, netstat -pnt is the same thing as netstat -pn | grep tcp :)
[13:10] <edbian> vbnj: Have you looked at nethogs  ?
[13:10] <rileyp> usr13 can I restart alsa without a reboot
[13:11] <edbian> vbnj: It's used to see which processes are using network but I think it can block them too.   I probably shouldn't have to tell you that it is strange that the clock applet and conky are accessing port 80
[13:11] <usr13> rileyp: BTW, how long has it been since you rebooted?
[13:12] <rileyp> usr13 I have not since talking to you
[13:12] <usr13> rileyp: service --status-all    #And look through the list.
[13:12] <vbnj> edbian, it's just a pain to stop them gnome-system-monitor, i pkill won't work sending STOP signal to them. I don't know sh scripting, i can't thing on anything more to automatise the process, because these may leak intels about my location when using a vpn
[13:12] <skim1776> does anyone use vim?
[13:12] <Pici> skim1776: Many people.
[13:12] <dasdssffa> third time someone try to tell me to use classic
[13:12] <dasdssffa> i do not want classic!
[13:13] <edbian> vbnj: well just don't run conky in the first place.  (I didn't know you were gonna kill the processes(
[13:13] <dasdssffa> it is not like normal classic
[13:13] <dasdssffa> c
[13:14] <edbian> vbnj: what is gweater?
[13:14] <skim1776> where can I find _vimrc file?
[13:14] <usr13> rileyp: If you only see pulseaudio that is what you will have to restart.  BUT, /dev/dsp  will get created when you boot.  Not sure why it didn't.  Rebooting my re-create it, but don't know for sure.  Why is it not there? I have no clue, but you'll not get sound without it.  You might look at dmesg for clues.
[13:15] <vbnj> edbian, i don't kill them, i send them a SIGSTOP, which as named, stop the process, but don't kill it. If i agree that i could just not run conky, it's quite different for clock-applet by example.
[13:15] <vbnj> gweather applet is used to get weather conditions in the task bar
[13:16] <rileyp> usr13 just creates a list of services with a brackets and a ?
[13:16] <usr13> skim1776: Probably in /etc/vim/
[13:16] <usr13> skim1776: But I also have it in /usr/share/vim/
[13:16] <Pici> skim1776: /etc/vim/vimrc
[13:16] <thrillERboy> mode/#ubuntu [-o Pici] by ChanServ
[13:16] <Pici> thrillERboy: yes.
[13:17] <skim1776> why are there 2 vim folders - in etc/ and in usr/share?
[13:17] <thrillERboy> Ewww.. my bad
[13:17] <usr13> rileyp: Did you see pluseaudio in the list with [+] to left of it?
[13:17] <edbian> vbnj: Well that weather applet is going to give away your location (to a very very sneaky person) because it is info about your region!
[13:17] <edbian> vbnj: just kill the processes  kill <pid>
[13:17] <rileyp> usr13 I dont have pulse just alsa
[13:17] <Pici> skim1776: Likely because you can set multiple vimrcs to use and they each can be loaded in a specific order.
[13:17] <Sebo> Could you tell me if it sis ok to make *pre-start* script to send the signals to the main upstart job process that will tell the job to save its state and to turn off?
[13:18] <usr13> rileyp: Did you see alsa there?
[13:18] <rileyp> usr13 dmesg is half sound related.... I'll paste bin
[13:18] <Python1320> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-common_2%3a3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3_all.deb (--unpack):
[13:18] <Python1320>  unable to open '/etc/dhcp3/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/samba.dpkg-new': No such file or directory
[13:18] <Python1320> Anyone got any idea why this is happening?
[13:19] <usr13> rileyp: Yes, do that.  You might also look at  hwinfo  for clues.  Might want to run it through less and do search for audio   hwinfo | less
[13:20] <vbnj> vbnj: i know how to do these, but i don't want to kill them, i just wan't to prevent them from accessing network. It should be possible , right ? i'm already obtaining the same result by
[13:20] <vbnj> stopping them, but i want a way to automatise it, by using a single command line. Problem : i don't know a program that can do it, and i'm not good at scripting either
[13:20] <Sebo> The job which I am talking about is going to be configured to *respawn*? I have doubts if that job might be restarted by the upstart when the main process finishes while the pre-start script is running.
[13:20] <edbian> vbnj: If you're going to kill them on startup (killing them is an option) just uninstall them and don't use them
[13:21] <edbian> vbnj: Or learn shell scripting and kill them (it's not that hard to do what you're asking)
[13:22] <rileyp> usr13 Ill reboot for a clean current dmesg
[13:23] <amin`> i want to add the num lock on script to lightdm and i have  I have this in etc/lightdm/{key.conf, lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf, lightdm.conf, users.conf} . to which I should I add it?
[13:23] <usr13> rileyp: Good
[13:23] <amin`> guys i need help with this
[13:24] <rly> ikonia: the first command already gives an error: sudo ldapadd -Y EXTERNAL -H ldapi:/// -f /etc/ldap/schema/cosine.ldif
[13:24] <vbnj> vbnj: ok, i tought there was some built-in util to that without having to shellscript. And i use them most of the time, it's just that sometime, i'm going under vpn and don't want them to work.
[13:24] <vbnj> I was just looking for an easier way to do that. Thanks anyway :)
[13:25] <rly> ikonia: http://paste.debian.net/126286/
[13:25] <rly> ikonia: I don't see how that can possibly be a 'good guide' then.
[13:25] <vbnj> edbian: ok, i tought there was some built-in util to that without having to shellscript. And i use them most of the time, it's just that sometime, i'm going under vpn and don't want them to work.
[13:25] <vbnj> I was just looking for an easier way to do that. Thanks anyway :-)
[13:26] <edbian> vbnj: write the script :)
[13:26] <osmosis_paul> Somebody here has used JMeter to made remote benchmark tests???
[13:27] <edbian> vbnj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/666503/
[13:29] <Enox4> I seem to be getting a "grub rescue" prompt, yet my hard disks seem to be there under rescue remix.  Any suggestions of what to do?
[13:29] <ikonia> rly: because you don't know what you're doing
[13:29] <ikonia> rly: please stop critisisng things you don't understand
[13:30] <rileyp> usr13 http://paste2.org/p/1586894 is my dmesg most of it start is missing...
[13:30] <usr13> Enox4: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[13:30] <kostas_> hello i have a problem start-up manager cannot open?
[13:30] <usr13> rileyp: ls -l /dev/dsp
[13:30] <rileyp> ls: cannot access /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[13:31] <Enox4> usrl3- I've been looking at that, but I'm honestly a bit confused.
[13:31] <usr13> rileyp: Test to see if you have audio woking now.
[13:34] <acerz> is it possible to convert my wubi installation to a full installation (on ist onw partition)?
[13:34] <rly> ikonia: it is a simple directory server (they use the name database themselves in the documentation, like I said).
[13:34] <rly> ikonia: the _fact_ that the instructions return errors is something you consider to be my fault?
[13:34] <ikonia> rly: I know what it is
[13:34] <usr13> Enox4: Is this a system that you have done a distribution upgrade on?  If so, from what to what?
[13:34] <Enox4> It suggests putting "set prefix=/boot/grub" for "error: no such disk.", but doesn't gugestion what to do after that.
[13:34] <ikonia> rly: they don't return errors, you're not using it correctly
[13:34] <Enox4> usrl3- No distribution upgrade.
[13:34] <rly> ikonia: I copied the _exact_ command.
[13:34] <ikonia> rly: I've used that guide myself at times, so unless something has changed
[13:35] <rly> ikonia: it said nowhere that I had to modify anything in that command.
[13:35] <ikonia> rly: ldap is not something you should be using if you're not comfortable with it, it's quite a beast
[13:35] <rly> ikonia: so, while I believe that in the past it worked, it doesn't right now.
[13:35] <Enox4> usrl3- If you mean like 10.04->11.04, that kind of thing wasn't done.  There may have been a apt-get dist-upgrade but I would have noted if too many things were being upgraded
[13:35] <ikonia> rly: then don't use that guide
[13:35] <ikonia> rly: I know it works, I've just skimmed through it and it looks sane
[13:35] <rly> ikonia: I am already using the official documentation (i.e., not Ubuntu).
[13:36] <ikonia> rly: ok then that's not an ubuntu issue, take it up with whoever maintains that document
[13:36] <rly> ikonia: what?
[13:36] <usr13> Enox4: What is it?  10.04 ?
[13:36] <acerz> is it possible to convert my wubi installation to a full installation (on ist onw partition)? anyone?
[13:36] <rly> ikonia: no, the Ubuntu document is wrong.
[13:36] <rly> ikonia: not the one I am using now.
[13:36] <ikonia> rly: don't use it then
[13:36] <rly> ikonia: I already was doing that.
[13:36] <ikonia> rly: good luck using the document you're using it
[13:36] <Pici> ikonia: Its part of the Ubuntu Server Guide...
[13:36] <Enox4> usrl3- I believe it's 10.04, yes.  This is from memory.
[13:36] <ikonia> Pici: I know, I've used it
[13:36] <ikonia> Pici: hence why I know it works
[13:36] <rly> I think it is epic failure on Ubuntu's side.
[13:36] <ikonia> rly: then don't use it
[13:37] <Pici> rly: Are you using 10.04 or 11.04?
[13:37] <usr13> Enox4: So you haven't booted it in a while?  Is that correct?
[13:37] <rly> Pici: 11.04
[13:37] <sipior> rly: works here. what sort of error are you getting?
[13:37] <tom> hi
[13:37] <Enox4> usrl3- Yes, it's probably been 30 days since last reboot.
[13:37] <amin`> any idea how could iactivate numloack by displaymanager lightdm?
[13:38] <usr13> Enox4: Did you try    normal   ?
[13:38] <rly> sipior: http://paste.debian.net/126289/
[13:38] <Enox4> Just type "normal" at the grub rescue> prompt?
[13:38] <usr13> Yes
[13:38] <Enox4> "Unknown command 'normal'"
[13:39] <rileyp> usr13    speaker-test -c 6 still works mythv can play video cant do dolby hd anymore and crashes on recorded tv playback now . Ill try vlc
[13:39] <rly> sipior: that error message is also completely ridiculous, don't you agree?
[13:39] <usr13> Enox4: dump
[13:39] <ikonia> rly: stop moaning, seriously
[13:39] <Enox4> "Unknown command 'dump'"
[13:39] <rly> ikonia: if you stop saying that nothing is wrong.
[13:39] <ikonia> rly: that error message is an openldap error message, nothing to do with ubuntu, take it up with the open ldap team
[13:39] <rly> ikonia: then just delete the setup instructions.
[13:40] <ikonia> rly: there is nothing wrong, if you have the encvironment setup
[13:40] <usr13> Enox4: boot
[13:40] <Enox4> "Unknown command 'boot'"
[13:40] <rly> ikonia: if the document does not document the right environment the natural environment is just a clean 11.04.
[13:40] <ikonia> rly: you're not following / using those intstuctions, I'll double check them tonight to make sure there is no problems
[13:40] <Enox4> The prompt is "grub rescue>" I previously typed "set prefix=/boot/grub", not sure if that affects anything.
[13:40] <usr13> exit
[13:41] <Enox4> "Unknown command 'exit'"
[13:41] <usr13> Enox4: if you did  set prefix=/boot/grub  and that is the correct path to grub, that would be a good thing. But...
[13:41] <rly> ikonia: The intention is to build something for 'human beings' right? So, then I would just put up a script which takes as an input all the required configuration, and then only complete when everything is filled in correctly.
[13:41] <Enox4> usrl3- Want me to reboot it?
[13:41] <Enox4> usrl3- To clear my prefix?
[13:41] <ikonia> rly: you can't script it - it's more complex than that
[13:41] <rly> ikonia: I can script everything.
[13:42] <ikonia> rly: enough now -
[13:42] <rileyp> usr13 sound is now worse than when I started................Bah
[13:42] <rly> ikonia: ok, I am curious to what you find tonight.
[13:42] <sipior> rly: it's not a fatal error; i suspect the attributes have in fact been correctly added. see here also: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1787991
[13:42] <sipior> rly: continue with the tutorial and see how things work.
[13:42] <ikonia> rly: I'm not interested in dicussing it with you
[13:42] <rly> ikonia: how convenient.
[13:43] <Enox4> I hit the reboot button, I'll re-try your commands when it comes up.
[13:43] <rileyp> usr13 I need to go to sleep now thanks for your help Ill reboot into my other natty partition tomorrow and see if its happy or not...
[13:43] <asher^> how can i see the number of processes a certain program is running?
[13:43] <rly> ikonia: the above url basically proves that this is not caused by me, but by incompetence by whoever wrote the tutorial.
[13:43] <sipior> rly: it's likely the schema need to be updated for 11.04. there may even be a bug report already.
[13:43] <rly> sipior: thanks.
[13:44] <ikonia> rly: I will verify the tutorial myself again, I have used it without issue
[13:44] <Enox4> normal/dump/boot - all unknown command post-reboot.
[13:44] <Pici> rly: You can problably find another tutorial on openldap's site.
[13:44] <rileyp> asher ps -ef -c
[13:44] <rly> sipior: should I install from openldap source?
[13:44] <[THC]AcidRain> asher^, if you have webmin installed, it will tell you
[13:44] <zykotick9> asher^, "ps aux | grep PROGRAMNAME" might give you an idea
[13:44] <sipior> rly: you could if you want. the schema are the critical thing here.
[13:44] <Pici> rly: Unless you're getting errors with openldap's instructions as well, I'd stuck with Ubuntu's packaging.
[13:44] <[THC]AcidRain> ok back with seriousness, my question is. i cant get my external hdd to mount. i get error saying that only root has privaledges to mount it
[13:45] <[THC]AcidRain> i believe i have properly edited fstab
[13:45] <asher^> zykotick9 i can do that, can i get a number though? im talking about something in the hundreds
[13:45] <rileyp> then use sudo to mount it
[13:45] <rileyp> sudo mount -a
[13:45] <[THC]AcidRain> rileyp, but i want it to auto mount on every boot, what must i do to have it mounted?
[13:45] <rly> sipior: I would rather just use Ubuntu packages, but if they are broken (w.r.t. these schemas), then the choice is easily made.
[13:45] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: Well, if you want to mount it as non-root, you have to add "user" among the HD options, similar to this: "/dev/sdz1 /mnt ext4 user,defaults 0 0"
[13:46] <rileyp> edit fstab is theer a line in fstab to mount your cd theer should be
[13:46] <Enox4> usrl3- I'm downloading the 11.04 CD, perhaps I can burn it to a USB and it'll give me a 'boot from hard disk' option?
[13:46] <sipior> rly: as i said, the error is not critical (the duplicate won't hurt anything), so i wouldn't make too much out of it.
[13:46] <zykotick9> asher^, "ps aux | grep PROGRAMNAME | wc -l" maybe?
[13:46] <[THC]AcidRain> theadmin! i believe you are right. cause i remember reading that on google. let me try
[13:46] <rly> sipior: ok, then I will try that. Thank you.
[13:46] <asher^> thanks!
[13:47] <[THC]AcidRain> theadmin, it didnt work...
[13:47] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: As for mounting on bootup, make sure "noauto" is NOT along the mount options
[13:47] <[THC]AcidRain> ill pastebin my fstab
[13:48] <[THC]AcidRain> http://pastebin.com/A6N7R2RM - fstab for my drive
[13:48] <freysteinn> coz_: Still not working. :(
[13:48] <coz_> freysteinn,  darn
[13:48] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: wtf is "acidrain" among mount options?
[13:48] <[THC]AcidRain> its my username...
[13:48] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: Bah! Not username. Just "user"
[13:48] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: That word as it is
[13:49] <freysteinn> coz_: Might be a driver issue. I'm using the proprietary ATI driver.
[13:49] <coz_> freysteinn, ok this one is puzzling me... I have had this issue once in the past,, but  reinstall , later fixed it,, not sure but let me check if I kept a txt file of a soluton,, I doubt it but I will check now hold on
[13:49] <uetlischwur> hi
[13:49] <usr13> rileyp: Sorry, was on the phone.
[13:49] <[THC]AcidRain> theadmin, after making these changes it work!
[13:49] <usr13> rileyp: Ok, have a good sleep.  ttyl
[13:49] <[THC]AcidRain> thanks man.
[13:49] <theadmin> usr13: Night.
[13:49] <Enox4> usrl3- Welcome back.
[13:49] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: No problem.
[13:50] <[THC]AcidRain> now my next issue, i was running pureadmin ftp server. and it seemed to give the user i created "ftpuser" full access to my comp
[13:50] <coz_> freysteinn,  it could be,, sounds half reasonable but not sure
[13:50] <[THC]AcidRain> why is this? based off the user permissions, i dont believe it should..
[13:50] <Guest73366> exit
[13:51] <rileyp> acid rain the only relavnt thing I can fin in my fstab is this proc            /proc           proc    nodev,noexec,nosuid 0       0
[13:51] <coz_> freysteinn,   I have an old solution for xorg.conf  but not sure if it still applies  ,, of course you would have to create the xorg.conf,, so it may not be a good solution
[13:51] <[THC]AcidRain> rileyp, what are you trying to do man?
[13:52] <coz_> freysteinn,  if all else fails    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/NO_SLEEP.txt
[13:52] <[THC]AcidRain> i think im just going to attempt to get ftpd-pro to work. it worked before on ubuntu 9.04
[13:52] <rileyp> AcidRain nevr mind my bad it was asher
[13:53] <freysteinn> coz_: Ha ha, thanks. I'm throwing the proprietary driver away and checking if that changes anything. I only need 2D graphics.
[13:53] <coz_> freysteinn,  ah ok cool
[13:53] <[THC]AcidRain> ubuntu, like even using pure admin and creating virtual users that have a specific home directory, they still manage to get full access to my filesystem
[13:54] <freysteinn> coz_: I'm might also try a reinstall. This machine's only purpose is to show a webpage and will have no interaction. No keyboard nor mouse.
[13:55] <coz_> freysteinn,  if you do that,, make sure you redownload the iso ,, check the md5sum or use the mini iso for installation
[13:55] <coz_> !mini | freysteinn `
[13:56] <vinu> hello, im using ubuntu10.10 &win xp,bcoz of sum problem i need to reinstall win xp,but after completing i need to reinstall ubuntu tooo(but i have not removed ubuntu).can any pls help me regarding this?
[13:57] <GrafVampir> vinu: а по русски шаришь?
[13:57] <bazhang> !ry | GrafVampir
[13:57] <bazhang> whoops
[13:57] <GrafVampir> О_о
[13:58] <bazhang> GrafVampir, #ubuntu-ru for russian
[13:58] <GrafVampir> ^_^
[13:58] <GrafVampir> ok
[13:58] <Enox4> Anyone have any other suggestions on getting my ubuntu machine back from "grub rescue>" ?  No commands seem to be helpful.
[13:58] <Enox4> The hard drives seem to be there, and without problems.
[13:58] <GrafVampir> and switching to another channel?
[13:59] <theadmin> GrafVampir: Наберите "/join #ubuntu-ru" (без кавычек)
[13:59] <Pici> GrafVampir: type: /join #ubuntu-ru
[13:59] <khf> vinu reinstall grub
[13:59] <[THC]AcidRain> Response:	530-Unable to set anonymous privileges. i get this error... when im not even trying to do that
[13:59] <GrafVampir> thx)
[13:59] <[THC]AcidRain> im trying to login as a legit user
[13:59] <khf> then upgrade to ubuntu 11.04
[13:59] <Enox4> It's saying "error: no such disk"
[14:00] <compdoc> [THC]AcidRain, logon in how, exactly?
[14:00] <khf> of course backup.before doing anything
[14:00] <[THC]AcidRain> compdoc, im just using the quick connection option with filezilla
[14:00] <melanie> *wave*
[14:02] <ionosphr1> what's the freenode channel for misc topics?
[14:02] <[THC]AcidRain> compdoc, i get an error saying what ive alrdy said, and one saying "login incorrect" when i konw for a fact that the login and username is very correct
[14:02] <Pici> ionosphr1: Theres #defocus or #ubuntu-offtopic or #freenode if you're looking for a channel.
[14:02] <vinu> pls help
[14:02] <ionosphr1> ahh defocus, thanks
[14:03] <compdoc> [THC]AcidRain, Ive never used filezilla. Possible its some configuration problem
[14:03] <[THC]AcidRain> compdoc, ive tried with firefox also. same issue
[14:03] <[THC]AcidRain> compdoc, the thing is... i get this with every ftp server i use
[14:04] <theadmin> ionosphr1: You could /msg alis list #*offtopic* or something like that
[14:04] <compdoc> [THC]AcidRain, running a firewall or iptables?
[14:04] <[THC]AcidRain> compdoc, actually im pretty sure its because the user ftpuser doesnt have priviledges to view its home directory i have set
[14:04] <[THC]AcidRain> compdoc, neither
[14:04] <Enox4> I'm going to go run and buy some blank CD's
[14:04] <Enox4> And see if 11.04 install can help me boot
[14:04] <Enox4> I can't believe this machine just stopped booting with no apparent HDD failures.
[14:05] <[THC]AcidRain> drwx------ 1 acidrain acidrain 4096 2011-08-15 08:58 My_Documents
[14:05] <compdoc> [THC]AcidRain, what are the folder and file permissions? I use rsync, and if the permissions arent right, it doesnt work well
[14:05] <[THC]AcidRain> as you can see other users have no access!
[14:05] <[THC]AcidRain> but i dont think it will even let me change permissions on it!
[14:05] <khf> enox4 reinstall grub might help
[14:06] <Enox4> khf- How?
[14:06] <khf> i have had that happen
[14:06] <compdoc> you can always change permissions as root
[14:06] <Enox4> grub rescue> seems to not support any commands.
[14:06] <uetlischwur> hello, could some1 mention be a good reason why "sudo cp -vr ~/big_folder" takes more time than copying the filder with nautilus?
[14:06] <uetlischwur> add on: nautilus is not in sudo mode
[14:06] <b0ot> How dangerous is it to dd from a live disk?
[14:06] <Enox4> b0ot- You probably won't get a consistant image.
[14:07] <Enox4> ie, things will change.  And the destination will be messed up.
[14:07] <khf> well i used a boot disc to reinstall.grub
[14:07] <uetlischwur> b0ot: might happen that some files will be corrupted
[14:07] <Enox4> khf- Once I get the boot disk, what do I do?
[14:07] <[THC]AcidRain> drwx------ 1 acidrain acidrain 4096 2011-08-15 08:58 My_Documents - doesnt do anything. yet no error message
[14:07] <b0ot> uetlischwur, Enox4 ok... but the original should be fine right?
[14:07] <iceroot> b0ot: the image after may be broken
[14:07] <theadmin> uetlischwur: -v can make certain terminals slow down because they need to process all the output. Try redirecting it to a logfile.
[14:07] <[THC]AcidRain>  sudo chmod -rwxrwxrwx My_Documents/ ***
[14:07] <Enox4> b0ot- Yes, be very careful not to screw up "if=" and "of="
[14:07] <m_rite> hey guys, i don't want to type my password everytime i sudo something. so i put myusername ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL into /etc/sudoers but it's still asking for the pw. any suggestions?
[14:07] <b0ot> iceroot, will the one that was source be alright?
[14:07] <iceroot> [THC]AcidRain: dont!! use 777
[14:08] <iceroot> b0ot: yes
[14:08] <compdoc> [THC]AcidRain, drwx------ limits it to one particular user, and nothing else
[14:08] <b0ot> I asked a friend to backup my harddrive and he dd'ed from the a live disk and I want to make it couldn't have hurt my original
[14:08] <theadmin> m_rite: That looks right, it shouldn't be asking for passwords this way.
[14:08] <khf> b0ot if you.mean from a live cd then it is ok
[14:08] <[THC]AcidRain> iceroot, im just trying to make any type of change in permissiosn now
[14:08] <[THC]AcidRain> it wont let me change them
[14:08] <theadmin> m_rite: Did you edit sudoers manually or using visudo? If manually, it can fail
[14:08] <uetlischwur> theadmin: ok, i'll benchmark w/o -v option
[14:08] <iceroot> [THC]AcidRain: read-only mounted?
[14:09] <[THC]AcidRain> hmmm.... how do i mount otherwise?
[14:09] <compdoc> [THC]AcidRain, you prolly need to stop the ftp service before making changes
[14:09] <m_rite> theadmin: first with nano, i tried with visudo later
[14:09] <[THC]AcidRain> compdoc, i tried that
[14:09] <compdoc> isnt there a config file that forces permissions?
[14:09] <b0ot> khf, no he used dd with the source partition as the one currently mounted at root. I'm going to redo it with a b0otable version of ubuntu
[14:09] <[THC]AcidRain> compdoc, i thought so
[14:09] <theadmin> m_rite: Is the line saying "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" located AFTER your entry, or BEFORE?
[14:10] <theadmin> m_rite: It has to be BEFORE it.
[14:10] <[THC]AcidRain> perhaps because its an ntfs system? or i could of sworn that i reformatted to ext3...
[14:10] <khf> that.is.the recommended.option
[14:10] <m_rite> it's before
[14:10] <theadmin> m_rite: Okay, now that's totally weird
[14:10] <uetlischwur> hi, copying 1.6GB within ~ 25 Minutes with ~1MB/s ... is that normal?
[14:10] <m_rite> yes. :D
[14:10] <theadmin> m_rite: Sounds like a bug to me
[14:11] <uetlischwur> hi, copying 1.6GB within ~ 25 Minutes with ~1MB/s ... is that normal? copy fomr hdd to pen drive
[14:11] <theadmin> uetlischwur: Pendrive? Yes, rather normal... I guess
[14:11] <coz_> uetlischwur,  depends on the speed of the pen drive ,, some are slow
[14:11] <coz_> uetlischwur,  rather the transfer speed can be slow on some
[14:12] <m_rite> theadmin: http://pastebin.com/8cRBC8LR
[14:12] <[THC]AcidRain> uetlischwur, ive never seen it that slow
[14:12] <khf> i usually get.faster speeds
[14:12] <uetlischwur> theadmin: coz_ [THC]AcidRain it's a corsair pen drive... i know it can do more than 1.5 MB
[14:12] <uetlischwur> theadmin: coz_ [THC]AcidRain it's a corsair pen drive... i know it can do more than 1.5 MB/s
[14:13] <khf> but the usb might.be.conjested
[14:13] <vinu> im using ubuntu10.10 &win xp.bcoz of sum problem i need to reinstall win xp,but i need to reinstall ubuntu tooo after this(but i have not removed ubuntu,its still in the memory).can i restore ubuntu?any pls help me
[14:13] <theadmin> m_rite: Put the line with your username at the very bottom of the file.
[14:13] <coz_> uetlischwur,  what type of files are being transferred?
[14:14] <uetlischwur> coz_: random... mostly documents, pdf, images... no vids
[14:14] <m_rite> theadmin: seems to work
[14:14] <coz_> uetlischwur,  ok then that sounds slow ,,,
[14:14] <m_rite> theadmin: thanks
[14:14] <uetlischwur> coz_: how can i find out if i use a usb1 port
[14:14] <theadmin> m_rite: Also, normally usernames do not contain uppercase letters... Did you adduser --force-badname?
[14:14] <theadmin> m_rite: That can give you problems. Just saying :D
[14:14] <khf> vinu windows will overwrite your.main.boot sector so you will need to.reinstall grub.to.boot ubuntu again
[14:15] <uetlischwur> i use fat on the pendrive
[14:15] <m_rite> theadmin: i only have lowercase usernames
[14:15] <coz_> uetlischwur,  mm  let me check
[14:15] <m_rite> theadmin: but thanks for the info :)
[14:15] <uetlischwur>  usb 1-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12
[14:15] <uetlischwur>  usb 1-5: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12 coz_
[14:15] <uetlischwur> from my dmesg
[14:16] <coz_> uetlischwur,  mm
[14:16] <amin`> x:5:respawn:/usr/sbin/lightdm -nodaemon doesnot start the lightdm and I went straight to tty. what should i do to run it?
[14:16] <theadmin> m_rite: later definitions overwrite earlier ones.
[14:16] <uetlischwur> coz_: usb1 speed is 1.5 Mbit/s or 12Mbit/s
[14:16] <theadmin> m_rite: So, since %admin definition was later, it was more important.
[14:16] <uetlischwur> coz_: usb2 speed is maximum bandwidth of 480 Mbit/s (60 MB/s) (now called "Hi-Speed")
[14:16] <coz_> uetlischwur,  so that is about the rate of transfer you are having ... yes?
[14:17] <m_rite> theadmin: i see, thanks
[14:17] <uetlischwur> coz_: got that from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB2
[14:17] <ThinkT510> amin`: what distro do you use?
[14:17] <coz_> uetlischwur,  so you are having usb1 transfer rates ...yes?
[14:17] <uetlischwur> coz_: ok, right now the file transfer dialoge shows me 2.7MB/sec
[14:17] <larryone> !compiz
[14:17] <amin`> ThinkT510: Iwant to add lightdm to inittab
[14:18] <uetlischwur> coz_: so it's 20Mbit
[14:18] <coz_> uetlischwur,  I would test it , ,when that is finished, with individual files,, to see if the transfer rate increases
[14:18] <uetlischwur> coz_: so it has to be usb2
[14:18] <ThinkT510> amin`: ok, let me rephrase: why are you crossposting in #ubuntu and #archlinux ?
[14:18] <coz_> uetlischwur,  unless you have a reallly ancient system,, it's likely usb2
[14:18] <uetlischwur> coz_: so it seems to be a very slow usb2
[14:18] <uetlischwur> coz_: no, its a 2 year old netbook
[14:19] <coz_> uetlischwur,  it could be a caching issue ,, I have a 4 gig  pen drive ,, it started out painfully slow,  now it is speedy,, what happend?  I have no idea
[14:19] <coz_> uetlischwur,  that 2 year old netbook most definitly is usb2
[14:19] <compdoc> when I log into a computer with VNC and run the Update-Manager, if it requires a reboot and I click Restart, the machine doesnt restart. Gnome quits (the desktop goes away) but it stops there. Update-Manager remains running, but its stuck - cant open a terminal or anything.  I have to logon with SSH and issue sudo reboot. Any ideas?
[14:20] <theadmin> amin`: If you have Arch, you just modify the DAEMONS=() array in rc.conf. As for Ubuntu, "man update-rc.d"
[14:20] <uetlischwur> coz_: ok, on the other hand... i started copying and then asked here ... i asked 16:10 now it's 16:20
[14:20] <Atharva> vinu : I dont know whether this steps will work or not but still take it as an experiment and in WinXP go to Start-Run-msconfig
[14:20] <amin`> ThinkT510: because first the arch buddyies are bunch of underage kids and the second lightdm is the launchpad project and the third i appropriate the help. and I know i am wrong to do it here but here is the best
[14:20] <coz_> uetlischwur,  whoa,, how far into the transfer is it now?
[14:20] <uetlischwur> coz_: finished
[14:20] <amin`> theadmin: how about inittab?
[14:20] <uetlischwur> coz_: so its 1.6GB in 10 minutes
[14:21] <coz_> uetlischwur,  ok  test a single file  to see what the transfer rate it
[14:21] <bazhang> amin`, are you using ubuntu
[14:21] <coz_> uetlischwur,  that is a long time for 1.6 gigs
[14:21] <theadmin> amin`: Got nothing to do with inittab.
[14:21] <ThinkT510> amin`: i feel you should know that ubuntu uses upstart and arch doesn't by default
[14:21] <amin`> bazhang: as an chroot media
[14:21] <ThinkT510> !init | amin`
[14:21] <bazhang> amin`, chroot to archlinux?
[14:21] <uetlischwur> coz_: is is 21Mbit/sec
[14:21] <amin`> bazhang: yes
[14:22] <coz_> uetlischwur,  mmm
[14:22] <theadmin> amin`: And, ThinkT510 is right. Arch uses a BSD-style SystemD boot system. It's TOTALLY different, and Ubuntu people will *not* be able to help you with that.
[14:22] <amin`> ThinkT510: any idea about inittab?
[14:22] <theadmin> amin`: Go to #archlinux
[14:22] <amin`> theadmin: again sorry
[14:22] <uetlischwur> coz_: i got few  FAT: Directory bread(block 15356) failed in dmesg...
[14:22] <bazhang> amin`, this is ubuntu support not arch support please dont ask further
[14:23] <coz_> uetlischwur,   ah oh... ok that one I am not sure of
[14:23] <uetlischwur> but that was before attaching the pendrive coz_
[14:23] <ThinkT510> theadmin: he is there, he crossposted
[14:23] <coz_> uetlischwur,  oh ok  so that single file suggests that it is transferring properly...yes?
[14:23] <uetlischwur> coz_: i didn't do any single files now.. only my big folder
[14:23] <uetlischwur> coz_: let me go for a big file
[14:24] <amin`> Guys, lightdm is launchpad project. even arch compiles it straight out off launchpad
[14:24] <coz_> uetlischwur,  oh ok,, well at that speed it sounds right
[14:24] <amin`> again sorry
[14:24] <bazhang> amin`, dont be sorry, just stop asking
[14:24] <amin`> Look at the difference between 2 channels
[14:24] <theadmin> amin`: Sooo? You're not asking for lightdm help
[14:25] <theadmin> amin`: You're asking for systemd help, which is not only *not* an Ubuntu project, but even totally unsupported in Ubuntu.
[14:25] <[THC]AcidRain> wow. gparted is a waste of time. as far as out-of-the-box work goes
[14:25] <ionosphr1> /join/j #defocus
[14:25] <Pici> amin`: Ubuntu is also a project that is built on Launchpad. But that doesn't mean that they have anything else in common.
[14:25] <amin`> theadmin: you mean for inittab option i need systemd installed
[14:26] <theadmin> bazhang: Thanks.
[14:26] <theadmin> Gee.
[14:26] <bazhang> [THC]AcidRain, actual support issue with it?
[14:26] <[THC]AcidRain> bazhang, it just wont do anything. always says pending
[14:27] <[THC]AcidRain> it will detect devices, then when i tell it to do something. it just pends
[14:28] <[THC]AcidRain> sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1       - is this not the way to change filesystem?
[14:28] <bazhang> [THC]AcidRain, the devices are still mounted?
[14:28] <[THC]AcidRain> bazhang, no sir
[14:28] <coz_> [THC]AcidRain,   i would check that to be sure  just in case
[14:29] <[THC]AcidRain> well actually i get an error saying device is busy
[14:29] <theadmin> coz_: If the device is mounted, it'll say "Device mounted - will not make filesystem here!"
[14:29] <[THC]AcidRain> but when i do sudo umount /dev/sdb1 i get device not mounted
[14:29] <coz_> theadmin,  understood
[14:30] <[THC]AcidRain> in gparted, it says the filesystem is ext3... with sudo fdisk -l, it says file system is ntfs...
[14:30] <[THC]AcidRain> why?
[14:30] <[THC]AcidRain> which one should i trust?
[14:31] <uetlischwur> coz_: ok, i stoped with a swatch and got 5646.4Mb in 170 seconds one big movie file... results in 33.2 Mb/s
[14:31] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: fdisk often acts weirdly, try cfdisk
[14:31] <coz_> uetlischwur,  thats much better
[14:31] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: Also, you can't mkfs if you have gparted running
[14:31] <coz_> uetlischwur,  I am not sure then why that first attempt was sl slow
[14:32] <auronandace> [THC]AcidRain: have you applied changes in gparted?
[14:32] <coz_> so slow
[14:32] <[THC]AcidRain> theadmin, i didnt have it running
[14:32] <[THC]AcidRain> auronandace, i just reopened gparted and it said it was not a ext3 after i ran the terminal command
[14:33] <uetlischwur> coz_: top speed for usb2 is 480Mb/s ... even if i consider overhead with 50% i am at 33Mb/s comapred to 240Mb/s :(
[14:33] <[THC]AcidRain> cfdisk is very scary. where should it say what filesystem it is?
[14:33] <coz_> uetlischwur,  i dont have an answer... maybe check in #hardware  or ##linux,,, someone in either place may have a better explanation than I do
[14:34] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: Um, oh... right, it doesn't even deal with filesystems. Just see if the disk type is "Linux", it'd help
[14:34] <[THC]AcidRain> theadmin,                           Pri/Log   Free Space                      160031.05
[14:34] <[THC]AcidRain> thats only information...
[14:34] <[THC]AcidRain> under FS Type, it says "Free Space"
[14:35] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: Um, then there is no partition at all. That's quite... weird.
[14:35] <thunsucker> has anyone used the Minimal cd image of 11.04 with vbox?
[14:35] <[THC]AcidRain> theadmin, well i think this happened when i ran sudo mkfs.ext3
[14:35] <coz_> thunsucker,  not with vbox no
[14:35] <ThePendulum> Hey. I've got a problem. Everytime my PC returns from Suspend, my internet connection isn't working. I've tried disconnecting/reconnecting, and to disable/enable networking. The only thing that seems to work is to physically plug in/out my internet cable
[14:36] <thunsucker> coz_: i think it has a problem or two, i think i'll stick with 10.04
[14:36] <thunsucker> ThePendulum, what version of ubuntu do you have
[14:36] <ThePendulum> thunsucker: 11.04
[14:36] <coz_> thunsucker,  the mini iso works well  ,, however , as i said , I have not tried it with vbox,, it may indeed have an issue with it that I am not aware of
[14:36] <thunsucker> ThePendulum, hmmm i know that 10.04 had a lot of issues with that
[14:37] <thunsucker> coz_, yes i've used it many many times but tried 11.04 the other day and it didn't go so well
[14:37] <ThePendulum> thunsucker: I guess they haven't been solved in 11.04 yet :O Or I'm just doing something incredibly wrong
[14:37] <coz_> thunsucker,  did you try the live cd in vbox for 11.04 ?
[14:37] <thunsucker> coz_, no this site has low bandwidth, and i'm impatient lol
[14:37] <[THC]AcidRain> i dont even trust gparted
[14:37] <[THC]AcidRain> it does things way to fast
[14:37] <coz_> thunsucker,  oh :)
[14:38] <[THC]AcidRain> i click on "create new partition ext3" and it creates it yet says pending...
[14:38] <thunsucker> ThePendulum, jus ta moment let me look around, is it a desktop or laptop?
[14:38] <coz_> [THC]AcidRain,  out of curiosity,, how large is the drive?
[14:38] <[THC]AcidRain> 160gig
[14:38] <ThePendulum> thunsucker: It's a desktop. It's a physical connection, not wi-fi
[14:39] <ThinkT510> [THC]AcidRain: after you make your changes, you need to click apply
[14:39] <szal> [THC]AcidRain: in my experience GParted does nothing before you click Accept
[14:39] <[THC]AcidRain> sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb1 -is my exact command
[14:39] <[THC]AcidRain> hmmm... ok. i didnt see accept button. let me try after this is done formatting
[14:40] <thunsucker> ThePendulum, found a thread that is new that talks about your problem, sounds like they made a change to the way acpi handles networking on suspend: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1777685
[14:40] <ThePendulum> thunsucker: I had weird issues during installation as well. At the timezone window, the installation would freeze unless I would install it without internet connection.
[14:40] <ThePendulum> thunsucker: Does the thread solve the issue as well?
[14:40] <thunsucker> ThePendulum, is your nic a broadcom? they haven't posted back but it sounds like a valid resolution
[14:41] <theadmin> Pici: Wow, what's going on?
[14:41] <[THC]AcidRain> after i ran that command. it still says ntfs system...
[14:41] <pundit> i am sending a utf-8 text file as an attachment by mail, but the receiver cant open it  as utf-8 file, only as ascii file, as it is not recognized as an utf-8 file. what can be done to ensure that a file is recognized as an utf-8 file on all systems (mac etc.) ?
[14:41] <Enox4> Burning 11.04 now to try and reinstall grub.  :)
[14:42] <ThePendulum> thunsucker: My network card is built into the motherboard. Allow me a minute to find out more details about it
[14:42] <[THC]AcidRain> Pici, believes in second chances ;)
[14:42] <Enox4> Any hints on how to do that, or is it totally obvious?
[14:42] <thunsucker> ThePendulum, if i had to guess i would say it's a broadcom
[14:42] <ThePendulum> thunsucker: I never heard of broadcom before regarding my PC, so I doubt it
[14:43] <[THC]AcidRain> ok i got gparted running
[14:43] <[THC]AcidRain> good advice for clicking on accept button :)
[14:43] <thunsucker> ThePendulum, give that link a try, it's modern and it seems there is an off and on option, try both to see what happens
[14:44] <Enox4> is "/boot/grub" the default ubuntu grub path?
[14:44] <ThePendulum> thunsucker: Would you mind directing me to the actual link? Thanks :p
[14:44] <theadmin> Enox4: Yeah.
[14:44] <uetlischwur> coz_: thx for your support!
[14:44] <ThePendulum> thunsucker: A found it, I missed it. Sorry!
[14:44] <Enox4> Do I need to specify which LVM LV is boot?
[14:44] <coz_> uetlischwur,   sorry I coiuldnt explain it better
[14:44] <thunsucker> ThePendulum, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1777685
[14:45] <thunsucker> ThePendulum, all good
[14:45] <[THC]AcidRain> test
[14:45] <uetlischwur> coz_: nevermind... it was not a serious question... i'll maybe but windows later and copy the same file for benchmark
[14:45] <coz_> uetlischwur,  sounds like a plan :)  did you check in those other channels?
[14:45] <carl-> has there been any known bugs related to the mouse lately
[14:46] <[THC]AcidRain> dude wtf
[14:46] <coz_> carif,  what type of mouse?
[14:46] <ThePendulum> thunsucker: The thread seems to deal with wireless connections that become invisible. I am using a physical cable connection, and it's visible after suspend, but it just won't connect
[14:46] <[THC]AcidRain> fdisk says its a linux fs, gparted says same thing. but now "blkid" says this: /dev/sdb1: LABEL="Server" UUID="36600BB8600B7E3D" TYPE="ntfs"
[14:46] <[THC]AcidRain> ...
[14:46] <carl-> coz_: normal usb i think
[14:46] <coz_> carif,  if it is not  a lazer mouse it should work,, what issues are you having?
[14:47] <[THC]AcidRain> again, which one should i believe?
[14:47] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: I think you should reboot before checking blkid
[14:47] <thunsucker> ThePendulum, the same principle applies. wireless will acti differently with the same problem vs wired. The thread is about acpi suspending the networking and freezing or not becoming available. therefore it should still apply
[14:47] <carl-> coz_: my mother called .. she had  some trouble .. and bought a new one .. she thought that it was the mouse .. and tried another port same thing .. although keyboard works fine
[14:47] <uetlischwur> coz_: no, i have exams in digital technics tomorrow and compied my folder with important documents to bring it to a firends... so i have more urgent things to do and just tought i might ask here as long as it copies :P
[14:47] <[THC]AcidRain> theadmin, will a logout/in work?
[14:47] <uetlischwur> compied = copied
[14:47] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: Actually, just try to force-mount it as a Linux drive, like: sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /mnt
[14:47] <coz_> uetlischwur,  ah ok ,, completely understood
[14:47] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: If it works, it's Linux :D
[14:48] <uetlischwur> coz_: no offence :)
[14:48] <coz_> carif,  mm,, the mouse is not working at all or is it exhibiting  some glitches?
[14:48] <ThePendulum> thunsucker: I'll have another look at it. Thank you for reminding me of the word 'wired' by the way. And thank you for your support! :)
[14:48] <coz_> uetlischwur,  none taken :)
[14:48] <carl-> coz_: not working at all
[14:48] <[THC]AcidRain> theadmin, well i didnt get an error... yet it also didnt mount
[14:48] <uetlischwur> coz_: but as i see you hanging around here many times, i report back once exmas are over :) (and i didn't forget :P )
[14:48] <coz_> carif,    ah oh... how many usb ports are on that system?
[14:48] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: It didn't?
[14:49] <carl-> coz_: im a bit unsure i must confess
[14:49] <[THC]AcidRain> no sir :(
[14:49] <coz_> uetlischwur,  yes please,, i would be interested if anyone has a decent explanation :)
[14:49] <aatish> !asus
[14:49] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: How can you tell?
[14:49] <aatish> !laptop
[14:49] <wooy> hi, what ubuntu for lightweight server? (bug-free, stability etc)
[14:49] <coz_> carif,   well if she can,, try moving the mouse usb plug to another port,,
[14:49] <[THC]AcidRain> cause its not on my desktop... thats where everything mounts to
[14:49] <theadmin> wooy: 10.04 LTS, server edition
[14:49] <carl-> coz_: she did . .and it didnt helt
[14:49] <carl-> p
[14:49] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: False. That's how Gnome does it. We mounted with the terminal.
[14:49] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: Run "nautilus /mnt"
[14:49] <albo> hi all.  installing 11.04 server i386 on an old toshiba a10.  Install isn't detecting the disk, and gives me a list of drivers to choose from.  Any ideas?
[14:49] <wooy> theadmin: thx
[14:50] <[THC]AcidRain> theadmin, yeah its there... but its also named lost+found
[14:50] <coz_> carl-,   do you know if it is an optical mouse or ball mouse?
[14:50] <[THC]AcidRain> lol
[14:50] <carl-> coz_: optical i think
[14:50] <coz_> do they still make ball mouse?
[14:50] <carl-> coz_: at least the new one
[14:51] <TheEvilPhoenix> coz_:  yeah they do :P
[14:51] <carl-> and .. well as said . its the same with both
[14:51] <coz_> TheEvilPhoenix,  yikes :)
[14:51] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: That's an ext3/ext4 filesystem folder for damaged files
[14:51] <[THC]AcidRain> theadmin, so i can delete it?
[14:51] <theadmin> [THC]AcidRain: No, infact it won't let you
[14:51] <coz_> carl-,   this is puzzling,, unless the usb ports stopped working,,, has she tried rebooting with the new mouse plugged in?
[14:52] <carl-> coz_: yes .. and it does not work .. and the keyboard work well on the same port
[14:52] <coz_> carif, also ,, if you have any other usb device,, plug it in to see if the ports are actually working
[14:52] <coz_> carif,  sorry wrong nick
[14:52] <thunsucker> carl-, sounds like you will have to drive out to see whats up
[14:52] <coz_> carl-,  mm so the mouse itself is the issue..
[14:52] <carif> coz_, np
[14:52] <thunsucker> carl-, not much you can do from here unless you like look at the logs
[14:53] <carl-> noop
[14:53] <carl-> thunsucker: probably right about that
[14:53] <coz_> carl-,  yeah ,, personally  I would want to be in physical contact with the machine to test it
[14:53] <carl-> thanks anyways guys
[14:53] <carl-> im off then
[14:53] <coz_> carif,  no problem   good luck with it,, go visit mom :)
[14:53] <thunsucker> carl-, i have a funny story to tell
[14:53] <carl-> :)
[14:53] <thunsucker> carl-, my mom couldn't get her ps2 mouse and keyboard back in
[14:54] <thunsucker> she twisted and pushed so hard that it broke all the pins off LOL
[14:54] <coz_> yikes
[14:54] <coz_> carif,  also  see if you have an old ps2 mouse around to test
[14:54] <thunsucker> yup, on the actual tower there were no more "holes" left ol
[14:54] <starZ> hey all, did you hear about a bug with ubuntu one on natty, mine don't connect any more and gives a DBus error message.. ??
[14:54] <coz_> carif,  they also make ps2 optical mice as well
[14:55] <bazhang> coz_, he quit
[14:55] <overclucker> my mom installed flash all by herself, i was so proud
[14:55] <coz_> bazhang,   gah
[14:55] <[THC]AcidRain> omg
[14:55] <bazhang> starZ, try #ubuntuone perhaps
[14:55] <[THC]AcidRain> mount: special device UUID=1d112679-6e31-481f-86eb-f7ec25756183 does not exist
[14:55] <thunsucker> starZ, did you remove and add it back? or do a ubuntu update?
[14:55] <[THC]AcidRain> i have 2 external hdd. both of them wont mount properly
[14:56] <starZ> bazhang: thx, will try..
[14:56] <usr13> [THC]AcidRain: Maybe you have wrong UUID?
[14:56] <albo> hey folks - can anyone out there help me with an install issue?  server install isn't recognizing my hard drive...
[14:56] <[THC]AcidRain> UUID=1d112679-6e31-481f-86eb-f7ec25756183	/media/Server2	ext3	user,defaults	0	0
[14:56] <starZ> thunsucker: yeah, but with no success..
[14:56] <Braber01> to they still have named Bufffers in Vim?
[14:56] <iceroot> albo: hardware-raid? which ubuntu-version. is the bios detecting the hdd?
[14:56] <Braber01> *do
[14:56] <jrib> Braber01: try #vim
[14:57] <Braber01> thank you
[14:57] <usr13> [THC]AcidRain:  blkid  #And compare
[14:57] <[THC]AcidRain> usr13, do i need quotes around the uuid?
[14:57] <jmcantrell> anyone use the tile plugin for compiz and xterm?
[14:57] <[THC]AcidRain> in fstab...
[14:57] <albo> iceroot - installing server 11.04 i386 on an old toshiba a10 laptop.  The drive is an old ATA one.  http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-MK-4021GAS-internal-ATA-100/dp/B0013VCIJ6
[14:58] <iceroot> albo: ok. the bios is detecting the drive?
[14:58] <[THC]AcidRain> i have 2 "Server2"s that mounted at boot
[14:58] <usr13> [THC]AcidRain: What method are you using to mount it?
[14:59] <overclucker> [THC]AcidRain: nope, you dont need UUID quoted in fstab
[14:59] <[THC]AcidRain> when i try to unmount the one that has nothing in it. i get message: In order to regain the free space on this volume the trash must be emptied. All trashed items on the volume will be permanently lost.
[14:59] <[THC]AcidRain> usr13, only  method im using is fstab
[14:59] <[THC]AcidRain> uuid is correct
[14:59] <aatish> who owns an asus ul80 series laptop with ubuntu installed on it? i want to know any trouble wih linux on this laptop. and how is the battery life with basic use n no internet? thank you in advance
[15:00] <albo> iceroot: yep.  it was booting up windows just a minute ago.
[15:00] <usr13> [THC]AcidRain: Was that the line in /etc/fstab up there?
[15:00] <iceroot> albo: and ubuntu is not seeing the drive at all?
[15:00] <[THC]AcidRain> that line for for my 2nd hdd
[15:00] <[THC]AcidRain> which appears to be mounted 2 times
[15:00] <[THC]AcidRain> 1 of those mounts is empty..
[15:00] <BartlomiejB> hi!
[15:00] <usr13> [THC]AcidRain: pastebinit /etc/fstab
[15:01] <[THC]AcidRain> usr13, actually i take that back. its mounted 2 times
[15:01] <usr13> let's have a look.
[15:01] <albo> icroot: nope.  during install, it says it didn't detect any hard drives.  Then it pops up a list of a bunch of drivers I can choose from.
[15:01] <[THC]AcidRain> http://pastebin.com/9ifz7jP0
[15:03] <usr13> [THC]AcidRain: mount | pastebinit
[15:03] <[THC]AcidRain> what are you wanting me to do? :/
[15:04] <usr13> send resulting URL
[15:04] <usr13> [THC]AcidRain: Show us the output of the   mount  command.
[15:04] <[THC]AcidRain> http://pastebin.com/ABypK8hv
[15:04] <[THC]AcidRain> oh hang on
[15:04] <kryl> hi
[15:05] <[THC]AcidRain> http://pastebin.com/w5E2KKhK
[15:05] <kryl> I juste delete the "things" at the top-right in the gnome-panel like date, disconnect, ... Can you please give me the name to help me to restore it ?
[15:05] <Dori922> im getting a "Read from Socket failed: Connection reset by peer // Connection closed by 172.19.1.x" when i try to SSH into my UEC node.. my router doesnt have a firewall though so i dont know whats wrong
[15:07] <compdoc> your router doesnt use nat? Its a bridge?
[15:07] <kryl> do you understand what I need ? :) it's just the way to restore the applet at the right in the gnome-panel
[15:08] <usr13> [THC]AcidRain: I only see one external drive.
[15:08] <usr13> [THC]AcidRain: I only see one external drive:  /dev/sdb1
[15:08] <compdoc> [THC]AcidRain has left the building
[15:08] <usr13> compdoc: o
[15:09] <Dori922> compdoc:  my router is a bog standard home router with the built in firewall turned off
[15:10] <[THC]AcidRain> usr13, pm
[15:10] <compdoc> Dori922, so you have the proper ports forwarded?
[15:11] <usr13> [THC]AcidRain: Oh ok, I'm there
[15:11] <sahar> how can i update pidgin?
[15:11] <brandon_> Hey how do I see all packages I have installed? - command
[15:11] <theadmin> brandon_: dpkg -L
[15:11] <brandon_> thanks
[15:11] <albo> iceroot: going through the installation again, all of a sudden it's now detecting the disk.  strange.  anyway, sorry for the trouble.
[15:11] <theadmin> sahar: Go to http://pidgin.im , there are instructions there.
[15:11] <Dori922> compdoc: i have port 22 forwarded on the front-end, the pc im sshing to, the node, does not have any ports configured but your not meant to need to
[15:12] <sahar> is it possible by command?
[15:12] <iceroot> albo: np, fine its working now
[15:12] <compdoc> well, if you are connecting outwards, then no
[15:12] <theadmin> sahar: All the instructions are there, but generally yes.
[15:13] <sahar> ok
[15:13] <sahar> thx
[15:14] <Dori922> compdoc:  its a 2 comp setup on a home LAN with no pub ip's
[15:14] <sahar> if i update my pidgin does my chat logs deleted?
[15:14] <saeed> salam
[15:14] <sahar> hi
[15:15] <saeed> hi
[15:15] <nitinsharma> sahar: have upgraded my distro from 8.04 to LTS 10.04 and still able to use the pidgin and able to see previous history
[15:15] <sahar> ok tnx
[15:15] <fullstop> Is there any reason why upgrading from 10.10 -> 11.04 would remove the contents of /var/lib/libvirt/images ?
[15:15] <daserfost> I have same problem with my pidgin
[15:16] <aj00200> Where can I check if there will be an updated version of gobject-introspection included in 11.10?
[15:16] <nitinsharma> daserfost: then you probably can copy ~/.purple directory as backup
[15:16] <shinsuke> is it possible to make windows-like filesystem links in linux?
[15:17] <jrib> shinsuke: no, you can only make superior symbolic links
[15:17] <theadmin> shinsuke: Those are actually text files, so with proper knowledge, probably yes
[15:17] <theadmin> shinsuke: Inspect any .lnk file
[15:18] <shinsuke> thank you
[15:18] <Silentmyst> hey guys, i have a stupid question... never tried to do it before.. .but uh.... can you use a find search for specific text in a man page
[15:18] <jrib> !symlink | shinsuke
[15:18] <Silentmyst> i can't figure out how
[15:18] <jrib> shinsuke: ln -s TARGET NAME  will create a symbolic link
[15:18] <G00053> how can i fix grub so both my fedora and ubuntu show up ? right now only fedora shows
[15:18] <jrib> Silentmyst: find doesn't search inside text files
[15:18] <theadmin> Silentmyst: When viewing the manpage, hit the / (slash) key, and type whatever you want to search for, then hit Enter
[15:19] <olle> #gambit
[15:19] <Silentmyst> theadmin: thank you man!
[15:19] <theadmin> jrib: Manpages are not only text files... They're *compressed* text files %)
[15:19] <lucidguy> Off topic... but does anyone know if a 802.11g/n device can connect to an AP that only supports 802.11A
[15:19] <jrib> s/text//
[15:19] <user82> which is the fastest h264(mkv) player for ubuntu? need to get 720p on a atom running
[15:20] <shinsuke> jrib,  superior symbolic links=symbolic links?
[15:21] <uetlischwur> Silentmyst: you can navigate thought the search hits with 'n' and 'N'
[15:21] <Nosnik> I'm running a ubuntu instance on amazon ec2, to host openvpn with a secret key as validation, located in /etc/openvpn. But the service fails to start with a read error on the key file (permission denied). i've set the permission on the folder and file with chmod 655, any clues?
[15:21] <theadmin> Silentmyst: No problem. To search for the same thing as you've searched for before, no need to retype it all, just use the n/N keys
[15:22] <Silentmyst> theadmin: lol ty i was just thinking that
[15:23] <theadmin> Silentmyst: The shortcuts are generally vi-like if that tells you anything ;)
[15:24] <flash> so whats this Chan about?
[15:24] <theadmin> flash: RTFT, it's the official Ubuntu support channel.
[15:24] <flash> ok
[15:24] <flash> how can I change the color of my font in Xchat ?
[15:25] <jrib> shinsuke: yes
[15:25] <captainmark> whats everyones favourite irc client?
[15:25] <jj__> hi anyone experience with pam_filter & kerberos? Backround is a crypted user authentication with a restiction, so the user can not access each server
[15:25] <shinsuke> under /etc/rc*.d should i rather create k links oder could i just delete the s-links? what is the clean and proper way? thanks
[15:25] <straw_hat> captainmark: weechat, wins for me.
[15:25] <jrib> Nosnik: you likely want 755 on the directory
[15:26] <theadmin> shinsuke: "oder"? Meinen Sie "or"? xD
[15:26] <shinsuke> theadmin, um yes. sorry
[15:26] <jrib> shinsuke: what do you mean by "k link"?
[15:26] <captainmark> straw_hat: what os you using?
[15:26] <theadmin> jrib: There are S and K files in those directories
[15:27] <theadmin> jrib: That's what (s)he means I guess
[15:27] <straw_hat> Well, a mac atm. Usually running Ubuntu at home.
[15:27] <captainmark> im using empathys irc but it sucks
[15:27] <shinsuke> jrib, k link =kill links like and s link = start link
[15:27] <straw_hat> So I'm running Adium. captainmark if you decide to use weechat, don't get it from the ubuntu repos,
[15:27] <Nosnik> jrib: that did the trick, thank you :)
[15:27] <straw_hat> too far behind, weechat 3 is nice
[15:27] <[-crow-]> ..
[15:27] <captainmark> why not?
[15:27] <captainmark> right
[15:27] <b0ot> Ok... question. I would like to import GPS data from my network and have the information (gps info/source) stored somewhere. I would then like to be able to go use google earth to select an area of interest to search on and/or timeframe and bring up information. Is there anything that exists that can do this, and if not how would I go about this project.
[15:28] <captainmark> thanks
[15:28] <BluesKaj> user82, I'm very happy with vlc , it plays practically anything without a hitch
[15:29] <GTAXL> Anybody know how to automatically apply permissions to new files uploaded to a folder?
[15:29] <jrib> GTAXL: uploaded in what manner?
[15:29] <GTAXL> I'm making a snapshots folder for SPGrb
[15:30] <jrib> GTAXL: what is SPGrb?
[15:30] <GTAXL> yet when I upload a pic, I have to change permissions on the file for users to see it.
[15:30] <GTAXL> SPGrab*
[15:30] <Silentmyst> to add to gtaxl's question since he asked.... is it possible to mount a media with permissions enabled?
[15:30] <jrib> GTAXL: how are you uploading the pic?
[15:30] <GTAXL> ^
[15:30] <jrib> Silentmyst: "permissions enabled" has no meaning
[15:31] <kermit> why would an nfs mount say 'stale file handle' while its mounting?
[15:31] <jj__> hi anyone experience with pam_filter & kerberos? Backround is a crypted user authentication with a restiction, so the user can not access each server. the is now something like this: required  pam_filter.so |(attribute1=value)(attribut2=value)
[15:31] <jrib> GTAXL: if spgrab does not have such a setting, you would have to use Access Control Lists (man setfacl, man getfacl, don't forget to add "acl" option in fstab)
[15:32] <GTAXL> jrib, http://pastebin.com/PCpEkaNw
[15:32] <[THC]AcidRain> usr13, it worked. they both mounted so fast that my background and top menu bar didnt have time to load. i saw a beige screen with 2 drives
[15:32] <[THC]AcidRain> thx for your help sir
[15:32] <Silentmyst> say.... a media with small windows exe's auto enabled for "run as exe" say on transferable flash drives, cds ect ect
[15:32] <usr13> NP
[15:32] <Silentmyst> to run in wine
[15:32] <Gaammeerr> hika
[15:32] <Gaammeerr> ads
[15:32] <Gaammeerr> xd
[15:32] <Gaammeerr> putas putas everwhyre
[15:33] <theadmin> Ooh, ACLs. I never knew Linux actually has those. Gotta try them out.
[15:33] <jrib> GTAXL: the other alternative is changing your user's umask (cannot be done on a per-directory basis and setting the directory setgid).  This would force group ownership of files directly under the directory to be the same as the direcotry
[15:33] <hobbel> my Wifi / internet jams back to 1mbit every now and then. using torrents seems to trigger it for sure (ever after closing tool). Only a restart of the WiFI will get it back at the desired speed again. Driver issue?
[15:33] <jrib> Silentmyst: there's some option about that in ntfs-3g man page, but .exe should be executable
[15:34] <docmur> I keep doing service mysql start and the service tool tells me that mysql is running / started but when I ps -aux | grep mysql it's not running or showing up
[15:34] <straw_hat> Anyway, I've got a question about getting some Ubuntu schwag. I'm having a LUG meeting here in Miami in a few weeks, and I was wondering if Ubuntu had any way of getting me some stickers or stuff to give out to our members.
[15:34] <AMD> assalamu alaikum
[15:34] <mrgenixus> is there an installer channel?
[15:34] <jrib> !in | AMD
[15:34] <jrib> mrgenixus: here probably
[15:34] <usr13> hobbel: Possibly, but not probable
[15:34] <airtonix> links2 doesn't have ssl enabled by default... i need it. what to do instead of compiling it?
[15:34] <uetlischwur> jrib: i think he is arab
[15:34] <hobbel> usr13 hmmz, it seems to be there for a while already
[15:35] <uetlischwur> jrib: i think AMD is arab
[15:35] <sipior> AMD: wa aleikum salaam.
[15:35] <uetlischwur> !ar
[15:35] <uetlischwur> !arab
[15:35] <mrgenixus> I have an external drive I want to repartition, format, and install to, from inside ubuntu: Somebody tell me I'm not SOL
[15:35] <jrib> straw_hat: yes, not sure who you should speak to.  Check loco documentation maybe.
[15:35] <uetlischwur> !tr
[15:35] <jrib> !loco | straw_hat
[15:35] <hobbel> Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[15:35] <docmur> any ideas
[15:36] <Silentmyst> jrib: they are executable, more often than not though the permission has to be checked in my experience THEN wine will run it - was just wondering say you could auto enable the run exe option automatically when mounting a flashdrive or what not rather than checking like 3-4 + programs
[15:36] <Silentmyst> self running programs
[15:36] <theadmin> !botabuse | uetlischwur
[15:36] <straw_hat> jrib: thanks, I was looking through the loco stuff, without much success
[15:37] <jj__> I' ve got a Question in pam modules. how can i use pam_filter for filtering at attributes
[15:37] <jrib> straw_hat: is there an active florida loco?
[15:37] <mrgenixus> jrib: no idea?
[15:37] <jj__> no idea?
[15:38] <jj__> no one?
[15:38] <hobbel> usr13 ill try a kernal downgrade..
[15:38] <theadmin> !repeat | jj__
[15:38] <straw_hat> jrib: it'd appear there is one closer to central florida, and I'm not sure if it's still active, their last thing was last october.
[15:38] <usr13> hobbel: What ever else is going on on your LAN can have effect performance as well.
[15:38] <jrib> straw_hat: maybe try #ubuntu-us and #ubuntu-us-fl.  Note I sort of assumed this was for the official loco.  I know my loco has received stuff from canonical in the past, but not sure about other organizations
[15:38] <hobbel> usr13 it seemed to work with .38-8
[15:38] <usr13> hobbel: Try it and see
[15:38] <i42n> mrgenixus: try to use gparted
[15:39] <jj__> ubotto: thx
[15:39] <stealz> I want to disable window decorations on fullscreen firefox windows. I figured I could use !(class=Firefox) in ccsm Decorations, but that will disable it for all firefox windows, not just fullscreen. anyone has any ideas?
[15:39] <jrib> !install | mrgenixus
[15:39] <mrgenixus> i42n: wait, I thing you can't have understood the question.  I know how to partition/format... I need to do the install to the disk...
[15:39] <AMD> any channel for student?
[15:39] <jrib> mrgenixus: those are your options
[15:39] <hobbel> usr13 it seemed to work with .38-8
[15:40] <i42n> mrgenixus: maybe unetbootin will do
[15:40] <mrgenixus>  http://tinyurl.com/3exghs  seems to be my solution
[15:41] <AMD> any channel for students,anyonecan say?
[15:41] <ion|afk> I'd like to get dockbarx to load automatically, what's a good upstart tutorial even if it's a little heavy handed for such a task
[15:41] <bluecrysmile> whats the real mean of 'quiet' in linux?
[15:42] <mrgenixus> AMD students in what cpacity?
[15:42] <bluecrysmile> just "suppress automatic printing of pattern space
[15:42] <bluecrysmile> "
[15:42] <i42n> ion|afk: System->Preferences->Startup
[15:42] <bluecrysmile> ??
[15:43] <ion|afk> sweet thx
[15:43] <BurnZeZ> How can I give a certain adapter priority where it comes to network connections?
[15:44] <BurnZeZ> Eg. I have wireless and ethernet connections, but the ethernet is just for a small private network.
[15:44] <bluecrysmile> Maybe someone can tell me  something about 'quiet'??  thinks
[15:45] <BurnZeZ> Is there a way I can give set the wireless as the default for things?
[15:45] <sipior> bluecrysmile: in what context?
[15:45] <i42n> bluecrysmile: What do you mean with 'quiet'?
[15:46] <flash> How do i change my font color
[15:46] <theadmin> flash: This is IRC, a plain-text communication protocol. We don't *have* colors.
[15:46] <bluecrysmile> Just like : -n, --quiet, --silent
[15:46] <bluecrysmile>               suppress automatic printing of pattern space
[15:46] <usr13> flash: In terminal or here in irc ?
[15:46] <sipior> bluecrysmile: are you talking about the option in sed?
[15:46] <AMD> mrgenixus:i mean engineering(electronics and communication) students.
[15:47] <bluecrysmile> yeah
[15:47] <BurnZeZ>  What about not having colors?
[15:47] <mrgenixus> AMD, do you mean in the the context of ubunut or IRC?
[15:47] <BurnZeZ> Also, he's referring to his client's font more than likely.
[15:47] <mrgenixus> if you mean ubuntu, you're basically in the right place
[15:47] <mrgenixus> (I think)
[15:48] <AMD> mrgenixus:yes
[15:48] <mrgenixus> if, AMD you mean, in the context of IRC or freenode, um, I don't have the least idea.  Your best bet, in such a case, is to find a community, via google, that has an IRC channel
[15:49] <mrgenixus> AMD, do you have a specific question, or are you looking for a place to hang out?
[15:49] <sipior> bluecrysmile: try a command with it, and without it. the functionality should be quite clear from an example.
[15:49] <area51pilot> msg NickServ identify cessna152
[15:49] <famine> is there a native utorrent client? if not whats the best torrent client
[15:49] <theadmin> famine: I suggest qBittorrent, it's quite awesome
[15:49] <theadmin> famine: Other than this, there is a native utorrent client but it's linked against horribly outdated libraries and just DO NOT WORK
[15:50] <mrgenixus> AMD: http://irc.netsplit.de/channels/?net=freenode&chat=electronics
[15:50] <captainmark> transmission is so simple and included in default install
[15:50] <theadmin> captainmark: It's too simple, it lacks things
[15:52] <usr13> args[0]: I hope that's not  your password you just gave us?  :(
[15:53] <usr13> sorry wrong nic
[15:54] <juhpel> Would there be any sense running Kubuntu 11.04 on a laptop with AMD Sempron 3800+ processor and 870MB memory? I wonder if there are enough memory.
[15:54] <ChessTeach> \win c
[15:54] <compdoc> juhpel, I would think it would run
[15:54] <bluecrysmile> ok ,maybe i got it!   thanks ,sipior
[15:54] <theadmin> juhpel: It'd run fine
[15:54] <os1ris> Greetings , I have a quick question. I am running 11.04 and I am running into some weird video issues.. I am seeing when some weird sitations when I run youtube sometimes the video will not even load till i shutdown the browser. And , I will run some xvids and see some video lag.  Can anyone help..
[15:54] <os1ris> On a dell laptop , ati video card
[15:54] <sipior> bluecrysmile: yep
[15:55] <juhpel> nice, thank you!
[15:55] <pervy_sage> Hola
[15:56] <theadmin> !es | pervy_sage
[15:56] <pervy_sage> theadmin: Oh, Hai
[15:56] <Dancecode> hai
[15:57] <pervy_sage> So, I'm getting [  125.870294] wlan0: association with 00:1f:9e:41:a6:0d timed out
[15:57] <pervy_sage> in my dmesg logs ^^
[15:57] <BluesKaj> os1ris, sounds like you need an upgrade or reinstall of flashplugin-installer
[15:57] <ion|afk> I have a package installed and I'm wondering what depends on it, is there a reverse dependency lookup?
[15:57] <akSeya> hello folks. I need to add a parameter on my kernel line, as far as I remember it was i8042.nomux . I saw that there are other options to i8042 like reset nopnp and so on.. where could I find more info about all that options and what they really do?
[15:57] <os1ris> Let me try that =]
[15:58] <os1ris> What is the best way to un-intall completly or just use package manager?
[15:58] <glebihan> ion|afk, apt-cache rdepends packagename
[15:58] <BluesKaj> os1ris, sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-installer
[15:59] <os1ris> thanks!
[15:59] <Dancecode> 有源文件包也可以
[15:59] <theadmin> That... looks chinese I guess.
[15:59] <szal> !cn | Dancecode
[15:59] <theadmin> !zh | Dancecode
[16:00] <Dancecode> 咳咳
[16:00] <lazarus_> do apps that get displayed  in the ubuntu software center
[16:00] <Dancecode> 多多关照，第一次用，接触Ubuntu。倒是很好用哈哈
[16:00] <lazarus_> get quality check of somthing like tha
[16:01] <theadmin> lazarus_: Well, they are mostly officially supported Ubuntu softwares
[16:02] <lazarus_> skype 2.2 is buggy as hell and often locks up
[16:02] <Tohuw> lazarus_: Each application's info page details the level of maintenance Canonical provides to the package(s).
[16:02] <zi> Where could I find php 5.1 binaries?
[16:03] <cwickert> so, who can tell me something about the scope of "standart support", "extented desktop and server support" and "server support"? which repos will be supported? ubuntu.com is not helpful at all here
[16:03] <Tohuw> lazarus_: Skype is closed source. Canonical can not support or improve an application when they can't inspect the source code.
[16:03] <os1ris> @BluesKaj - looks like it happened again.. You think it could be compiz or my video driverS?
[16:04] <BartlomiejB> I want to be informed with "You have new mail." message on text terminal (in X). my mbox is /var/log/<USERNAME> and I don't receive such messages. I get mail via fetchmail in cron.
[16:04] <BartlomiejB> what can I do?
[16:05] <lazarus_> surely if an applation propritary or not fails ot meet certain standard is doesnt get the right to be in the SC because it affects the users experience or somthing along the lines of that
[16:05] <theadmin> BartlomiejB: You know, it's typically /var/mail/username
[16:05] <BartlomiejB> theadmin: oops, yes, typo.
[16:05] <sipior> BartlomiejB: you're using bash? set the variable "MAILCHECK" to your mailbox path.
[16:06] <sipior> BartlomiejB: sorry, "MAILPATH", of course.
[16:06] <usr13> lazarus_: You coul d try an earlier version. Like 2.1
[16:06] <BartlomiejB> sipior: yes, I'm using bash. thank you very much.
[16:07] <usr13> lazarus_: But, it may not perform the same on each and every system.
[16:07] <glebihan> zi, what release of ubuntu are you running ?
[16:07] <zi> glebihan - 10.something
[16:07] <usr13> lazarus_: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[16:07] <milen8204> hello all I am searching for a good transparent, desktop background calendar
[16:08] <milen8204> anyone can help a bit ?
[16:08] <zenrox> rainlander
[16:08] <zenrox> ??
[16:08] <BartlomiejB> zi: lsb_release -a will tell you the exact version. just a hint ;)
[16:08] <glebihan> zi, could you give the extact version, if you don't know, use "lsb_release -a"
[16:08] <usr13> lazarus_: Does skype lock up?  Or does the whole system freeze?
[16:08] <iiistee> whenever i open any app i just get a white screen and nothing else . for example if i open terminal or text editor i just get a white terminal with nothing on it as if it is stuck pls help
[16:08] <zi> hmm, derp -- 11.04
[16:08] <gary_inNYC> just installed some updates and now i have no permissions to files and folders in an external drive.  what can i do?
[16:09] <ACME_> weird
[16:09] <usr13> gary_inNYC: mount | pastebinit
[16:09] <usr13> show us
[16:09] <lazarus_> yes 2.1 works fine im just saying that i always keep hearin ubuntu devs and so on say "we want to deliver the best user experience possible" allowing badly written apps in SC doesnt help them reach that goal surely
[16:09] <willwh> iiistee: alt +  ctrl + 1, log in, sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog -> then alt + ctrl + 7, and start opening things - you should see some errors
[16:09] <lazarus_> and the whole system locks up
[16:10] <iiistee> willwh : you mean ctrl
[16:10] <Tohuw> lazarus_: Just because it locks up for you doesn't mean it locks up for everyone. The package is in the repository because it worked when tested by whomever maintains the package.
[16:10] <glebihan> zi, you won't find php 5.1 binaries for 11.04
[16:10] <willwh> iiistee: you might just need to, restart gdm (i.e. reboot)
[16:10] <usr13> lazarus_: run skype for terminal and watch for errors
[16:10] <iiistee> willwh : u mean ctl+alt+f1?
[16:10] <glebihan> zi, if you really need that version, you'll have to install from sources
[16:10] <willwh> I did - yes, to log in to a different tty
[16:10] <willwh> iiistee: I would just reboot first
[16:11] <shinsuke> hi. i want to create an image of an encrypted partition. however i guess image will have the full size because of the encryption. is there a solution for using less space?
[16:11] <lazarus_> i mean dont get me wrong i love ubuntu and i am happy to help any way i can but i was just moaning a lil bit
[16:11] <airtonix> moaning is offtopic
[16:12] <airtonix> it's also offtopic in offtopic
[16:12] <BartlomiejB> LoL
[16:12] <usr13> lazarus_: What version of Ubuntu do you have?  Does skype lock up?  Or does the whole system freeze?
[16:12] <gary_inNYC> usr13: ok, i'll need to install pastebinit first one sec
[16:12] <usr13> gary_inNYC: mount | pastebinit #And send us resulting URL
[16:12] <lazarus_> 11.04 the whole system locks up
[16:13] <usr13> lazarus_: Test your memory
[16:13] <lazarus_> i have
[16:13] <usr13> lazarus_: boot to CD, run memtest
[16:13] <lazarus_> no errors
[16:13] <willwh> how long did you run it for?
[16:13] <lazarus_> 2-3 hours
[16:14] <willwh> seriously, not long enough.
[16:14] <usr13> lazarus_: Check heatsink for dust, and CPU fan, and thermal grease
[16:14] <raven_> vbox existing winxp installation virtualized: how to install virtual(cpu)drivers to get windows come up?
[16:14] <gary_inNYC> usr13: http://pastebin.com/MDg0R2Kx
[16:15] <usr13> lazarus_: Yea, I usually run memtest overnight before I'm confident that memory modules are good.
[16:15]  * lazarus_ sips tea and carrys on reading responses
[16:15] <lazarus_> heh
[16:16] <usr13> gary_inNYC: Ok I see that /dev/sda1 is mounted read only.  Did you do that on purpose?
[16:16] <gary_inNYC> usr13: no i didn't
[16:16] <usr13> gary_inNYC: Wait, that may be normal.  It is /
[16:16] <konsumer> Anyone know how to disable that Disk Utility pop up? It says "Hard Disk Problems. A hard disk is reporting health problems." The HDD's are new and have no problems. This pop up happens once every hour or so.
[16:16] <gary_inNYC> usr13: i just mounted the external "lacie" drive as i normally would... just plug it into usb and let buntu do the rest
[16:17] <amin_> hi
[16:17] <amin_> is there anybody out there?
[16:17] <amin_> :|
[16:17] <usr13> gary_inNYC: sudo fdisk -l  | fstab
[16:17] <amin_> you faggots
[16:17] <compdoc> theres at least one person in denver
[16:18] <amin_> hmmm
[16:18] <glebihan> usr13, gary_inNYC : it is not mounted read-only
[16:18] <Enox4> Can someone tell me how to reinstall grub from the 11.04 live CD?  My system decided it doesn't want to boot anymore via grub.  The grub rescue> prompt is also kind of unhelpful.
[16:18] <amin_> has anybody passe LPIC-1 here?
[16:18] <compdoc> or there was...
[16:18] <yaswanth> hi
[16:18] <Konsole> Gigidy.
[16:19] <lazarus_> i forgot to point out i am not the only person i know to be expereincing system lockups on 11.04
[16:19] <usr13> gary_inNYC: What is /media/LACIE  ?  What type of device is it?
[16:19] <xangua> !grub | Enox4 tried this¿
[16:19] <amin_> has anybody passe LPIC-1 here?
[16:19] <amin_> has anybody passed LPIC-1 here?
[16:19] <gary_inNYC> usr13: /media/LACIE is the external hard drive
[16:19] <sipior> amin_: find somewhere else to play.
[16:19] <gary_inNYC> usr13: it's the one i'm having permissions issues with
[16:20] <konsumer> Can i un install Disk Utility with out effecting the OS?
[16:20] <usr13> gary_inNYC: What type of device is it?
[16:20] <raven_> vbox existing winxp installation virtualized: how to install virtual(cpu)drivers to get windows come up?
[16:20] <theadmin> konsumer: Yes, you can
[16:20] <yaswanth> ya can
[16:20] <konsumer> thanks
[16:20] <konsumer> it keeps telling me my new drives have health errors
[16:20] <yaswanth> ya
[16:20] <gary_inNYC> usr13: it's a usb2 external hdd
[16:20] <usr13> gary_inNYC: Is it a conventional HD or a flash drive of some sort?  What type of device is it?
[16:20] <konsumer> i think its because they're using that "green" performance feature
[16:20] <konsumer> suppose to use less power
[16:20] <gary_inNYC> usr13: it's conventional hard drive
[16:21] <yaswanth> conventional hd
[16:21] <usr13> gary_inNYC: Oh ok...  ls -l /media/LAXIE |pastebinit  #Send resulting URL
[16:21] <gary_inNYC> usr13: ok
[16:21] <usr13> gary_inNYC: Oh ok...  ls -l /media/LACIE |pastebinit  #Send resulting URL
[16:21] <yaswanth> ya its very intresting to use
[16:22] <yaswanth> where are you from
[16:22] <yaswanth> joined
[16:22] <gary_inNYC> usr13: http://pastebin.com/ybBS23WG
[16:23] <konsumer> What is the best media player for BD back up playback?
[16:23] <raven_> vbox existing winxp installation virtualized: how to install virtual(cpu)drivers to get windows come up?
[16:23] <konsumer> i can play the .m2ts with most popular media players, but it wont read the menu and extras
[16:23] <yaswanth> moovida media player
[16:24] <konsumer> nice, thanks :)
[16:25] <konsumer> yaswanth, is this app available in linux?
[16:25] <konsumer> i only see the windows versions
[16:26] <konsumer> Also, does not support java based BD menu
[16:26] <konsumer> so, i ask again, lol
[16:26] <yaswanth> i have problem with .mpeg files these file has no audio which player is best for .mpeg file
[16:26] <dip_10> Anyone installed 11.04 on Toshiba L640?
[16:26] <konsumer> Anyone know of a BD media player that works with Menu and Extras playback?
[16:26] <konsumer> yaswanth, i want it to read the BD as if it were on a Disk
[16:26] <BartlomiejB> yaswanth: try mplayer
[16:27] <konsumer> ive tried em all
[16:27] <konsumer> none can emulate the menu
[16:27] <konsumer> mplayer works for the mpeg2 streams but not the avc streams, from a BD back up
[16:27] <konsumer> once the m2ts has avc codec for video, it just crashes
[16:27] <usr13> gary_inNYC: Sorry I was on the phone.
[16:28] <gary_inNYC> usr13: np
[16:28] <yaswanth> ya please search in the ubuntu software center
[16:28] <Kingdong> is there any shell that allow basic os configuraiton without giving access to the full command line (something with ncurse maybe ?)
[16:28] <NecessAndAry> Hi, I installed Ubuntu 11.04 (unity enabled) on a netbook 1024x600 (MSI Wind U115) installed a driver for GMA500, everything worked but the bar at the top is blurry
[16:29] <yaswanth> can use java with this?
[16:29] <amin_> MO_Handes
[16:30] <usr13> gary_inNYC: What is your username on this system?   gary  ?
[16:30] <rye> Is anybody using NFS4 on Lucid server with Natty client?
[16:30] <gary_inNYC> usr13: yes
[16:30] <Tetracomm> Hello.
[16:30] <Tetracomm> How do I tell Ubuntu not to prompt me for my password when I resume from standby?
[16:30] <usr13> gary_inNYC: Well, I do not see any reason you would not have write permission on this drive.  Let's do a little test and see.
[16:31] <gary_inNYC> usr13: ok
[16:31] <Konsole> So many questions, not enough answers. Lol.
[16:31] <usr13> gary_inNYC: touch /media/LACIE/test-file
[16:31] <Konsole> *cough* Google... *cough*
[16:31] <usr13> gary_inNYC: Tell me if you get an error...
[16:31] <gary_inNYC> usr13: touch: cannot touch `/media/LACIE/test-file': Read-only file system
[16:31] <yaswanth> how can we use java in this os
[16:32] <usr13> gary_inNYC: Is there some sort of switch on the drive?
[16:32] <thunsucker> gary_inNYC, did the system automount the usb drive or did you put it in fstab?
[16:32] <xangua> !java | yaswanth
[16:32] <gary_inNYC> thunsucker: it automounted that way
[16:32] <gary_inNYC> usr13: except for a power switch, none
[16:33] <usr13> gary_inNYC: df /dev/sdb1
[16:33] <thunsucker> gary_inNYC, it mounted the drive as root with permissions but not the user. set it to mount in fstab with the uid of your user
[16:33] <yaswanth> how to use that?
[16:33] <konsumer> Even though i un installed Disk Utility, i still get the Health HDD pop up :( Any way to get rid of that pop up?
[16:34] <gary_inNYC> usr13: df: `/dev/sdb1': Permission denied
[16:34] <usr13> gary_inNYC:  As thunsucker suggests, you could put a line in /etc/fstab for it.
[16:34] <usr13> gary_inNYC: sudo df /dev/sdb1
[16:34] <Konsole> gary_inNYC, are you root or sudo?
[16:34] <gary_inNYC> Konsole: i'm regular user
[16:34] <thunsucker> gary_inNYC, sec i'll find you ane xample command
[16:35] <Konsole> gary_inNYC, I was actually being sarcastic lol.. I ment try running the command as usr13 stated or root up before running command
[16:36] <gary_inNYC> Konsole: will do
[16:36] <dip_10> My 11.04 installation on Toshiba laptop using USB sticks hangs randomly
[16:36] <usr13> gary_inNYC: Do you want to create a perminate mount point for it and add a line in fstab for it (and keep it mounted all the time)?  Not sure, but it may solve  your problem.
[16:37] <gary_inNYC> usr13: i don't keep it on all the time, just when i need to throw in a few files on occasion
[16:37] <usr13> gary_inNYC: Is gary the original user?  (The one that was created when you first installed Ubuntu.)?
[16:38] <thunsucker> gary_inNYC, what filesystem does the drive have? fast32, ntfs?
[16:38] <usr13> thunsucker: vfat
[16:38] <gary_inNYC> usr13: yes, though many of the files originated from a windows system with the same username
[16:38] <gary_inNYC> thunsucker: it uses fat32
[16:38] <thunsucker> gary_inNYC, usr13: umount the drive, and use a command like this "sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/external -o uid=1000,gid=1000,utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137"
[16:38] <usr13> thunsucker: See:  http://pastebin.com/MDg0R2Kx  &  http://pastebin.com/ybBS23WG
[16:39] <NecessAndAry> My Unity bar at the top is slightly blurry, the other text is normal, any way to fix that
[16:39] <thunsucker> gary_inNYC, usr13: replace the paths obviously, also change the uid=1000 to the uid of "gary"
[16:40] <usr13> gary_inNYC: Permissions shouldn't matter because it is vfat
[16:40] <thunsucker> gary_inNYC, check private message, can you give you some more specifics
[16:40] <thunsucker> usr13, I agree but i had a similiar issue until i mounted it as myself
[16:40] <usr13> gary_inNYC: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[16:41] <gary_inNYC> usr13: ok
[16:41] <usr13> gary_inNYC: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb |pastebinit
[16:41] <yaswanth> any one know this please tell how can we found system machine number . . like 202.46.201.114
[16:41] <jmcantrell> anyone know why xterm does not play nice with the compiz grid plugin?
[16:42] <usr13> thunsucker: Yea, but shouldn't happen.  I don't know why it's doing this.
[16:42] <captainmark> is there a way to stop the (someuser has joined/quit the room) messages from appearing
[16:42] <mcb_1> yaswanth: What you is the IP address of the machine? Is it? If so you do a 'ifconfig'
[16:42] <Konsole> captainmark, yeah. You leave the channel.
[16:42] <BartlomiejB> yaswanth: /sbin/ifconfig? host? you should as more precise questions, you know.
[16:42] <Konsole> hhahaha.. :>
[16:42] <captainmark> ha, thanks man
[16:43] <gary_inNYC> usr13: http://pastebin.com/t6uHkump
[16:43] <oCean> Konsole: that's not helpful, stop that
[16:43] <TheEvilPhoenix> captainmark:  depends on the IRC client, but that should be better asked elsewhere
[16:43] <oCean> captainmark: xchat?
[16:43] <Konsole> oCean, I'm kidding.. Calm down captian
[16:43] <oCean> Konsole: not here please
[16:43] <captainmark> im on empathy, it sucks bigtime for irc
[16:43] <theadmin> captainmark: In irssi, /ignore #ubuntu JOIN PART QUIT
[16:43] <theadmin> captainmark: Like, impossible on Empathy xD
[16:43] <BartlomiejB> yaswanth: if you are behind some firewall (masquarade), then you can visit some site that shows your IP, eg. browserspy.dk or sth.
[16:43] <theadmin> captainmark: Sorry, change the client
[16:43] <yaswanth> how can get that ip address i dnt get you please tell clearly
[16:43] <captainmark> damn
[16:44] <Konsole> theadmin, not many people use irssi these days... it doesn't have a sexy gui :P
[16:44] <voxcroix_> can anyone PM me to teach me how to register nick name. pls.
[16:44] <BartlomiejB> Konsole: well, I do :)
[16:44] <TheEvilPhoenix> captainmark:  try using xchat or irssi
[16:44] <TheEvilPhoenix> voxcroix_:  ask in #freenode
[16:44] <Konsole> xD.
[16:44] <ThinkT510> !register | voxcroix
[16:44] <voxcroix_> thx
[16:44] <usr13> gary_inNYC: df |grep /dev/sdb1  #Just paste results here.
[16:44] <captainmark> may look intot them, thanks
[16:44] <mcb_1> If it is your real IP Address you can use http://meuenderecoip.com this site will tell you real IP Address.
[16:45] <theadmin> Konsole: Hey, don't tell anything about GUIs to an Arch user :P
[16:45] <mcb_1> If it is your LAN ip address, you can open a terminal and type ifconfig as root user.
[16:45] <captainmark> @yaswanth if your on ubuntu now, just click the network manager applet, connection info is at the bottom
[16:46] <Konsole> theadmin, Hey now... I'm against GUI but the average user likes to be press button do everything i want it to do.. with cool graphics
[16:46] <theadmin> Konsole: Ah... Understand.
[16:46] <theadmin> Konsole: We've gone slightly offtopic.
[16:46] <Konsole> theadmin, Just a wee bit.
[16:47] <theadmin> Konsole: Yet still, this is #ubuntu so... These guys are serious about it
[16:48] <Konsole> theadmin, Yeah. I know how that goes. Unfortunately
[16:48] <theadmin> Konsole: Yep, got me banned for a few minutes once, so let's stop ;)
[16:48] <txomon> hello can someone help me with apt-get upgrade?
[16:48] <yaswanth> i got /sbin/ifconfg bt it doesnt open because it has .exe file
[16:48] <thunsucker> usr13, gary mounted it with his uid and it worked
[16:48] <txomon> its returning error code 2
[16:48] <Konsole> theadmin, Ouch. Harsh ><
[16:48] <thunsucker> usr13, stupid but it worked for me a while back: sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /media/LACIE -o uid=1000,gid=1000,utf8,dmask=027,fmask=137
[16:49] <txomon> package name its missing, it says
[16:49] <usr13> thunsucker: Ok, well, what is the deal then.  Why is that happening?
[16:49] <gary_inNYC> usr13, thunsucker: it's all good thx for the helps
[16:49] <thunsucker> usr13, i'm not sure, i think it's a bug.
[16:49] <thunsucker> gary_inNYC, glad i could help
[16:50] <thunsucker> usr13, my usb drive does the same thing. even if I su to root i can't make any changes to /media/drive1
[16:50] <jdsaoid7sy8f6ds> sup
[16:50] <usr13> thunsucker: Ok.  Well thanks for getting him going with it.  (I guess I got hung up on the diagnosis part...)
[16:50] <thunsucker> usr13, but then as soon as i mount it as my regular user, it works great
[16:50] <thunsucker> usr13, all good just glad to help, i spent months on it LOL
[16:51] <yaswanth> bartlomiejB! i got what you are sending me but it does'nt  open because it has .exe file
[16:51] <usr13> thunsucker: Well, maybe someone should file a bug report.  But I suppose it only happens with certain types of drives... or...?
[16:51] <wingchunwarrior> i'm conducting a new install of 11.04 and was in need of some help regarding the "other" option to allocate disc space...
[16:51] <edbian> wingchunwarrior: sure
[16:52] <wingchunwarrior> thanks ebian
[16:52] <thunsucker> usr13, yea it seems for me to be drives that automatically mount a "cdrom" drive with it
[16:52] <edbian> wingchunwarrior: what is the issue?
[16:52] <txomon> so is there anyone?
[16:52] <wingchunwarrior> i'm looking at the "allocate drive space" and...
[16:52] <captainmark> @txomon: whats the problem?
[16:52] <Pici> txomon: It would help if you provided the exact error that you are getting. On a pastebin.
[16:52] <usr13> thunsucker: Ahhhh, something amiss in udev ?
[16:52] <usr13> thunsucker: or hald
[16:52] <edbian> wingchunwarrior: please use my name if talking to me.  Otherwise I'll miss it
[16:53] <oCean> usr13: please see my pm
[16:53] <txomon> captainmark, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/666652/
[16:54] <txomon> Pici, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/666652/
[16:54] <wingchunwarrior> edbian> under Device it shows, /dev/sda ...and /dev/sda1 with the size being 101080 MB Unknown
[16:54] <wingchunwarrior> what i'm wanting to do is totally fdisk or whatever and use the entire drive
[16:54] <edbian> wingchunwarrior: /dev/sda refers to the hdd   /dev/sda1 refers to the first partition (possibly the only)
[16:55] <wingchunwarrior> sorry edbian...that was for you regarding the entire drive
[16:55] <edbian> wingchunwarrior: If you wanna use the entire drive the easiest way is to do the 'use entire drive' option instead of custom or whatever
[16:55] <usr13> thunsucker: Probably particular to 11.04 ?
[16:55] <Pici> txomon: Can you please run: LANG=C sudo apt-get upgrade    and paste the entire output?
[16:55] <thunsucker> usr13, it happened to me on 10.04 and 11.04
[16:55] <edbian> wingchunwarrior: But if you wanna use this option delete /dev/sda1  make a /dev/sda1 that is / (and ext4) and make a /dev/sda2 that is swap
[16:55] <konsumer> Is there a way to go back to the menu style of Ubuntu 10.10? I'm on 11.04 :(
[16:56] <Pici> !classic | konsumer
[16:56] <edbian> wingchunwarrior: /dev/sda2 should be the size of the amount of ram you have (unless you have less than 1Gb of ram)
[16:56] <konsumer> ty sir
[16:56] <konsumer> brb :)
[16:56] <Enox4> Can someone help me installing grub from a chrooted live CD?  I'm getting "no path or device is specified" with grub-install /dev/sda
[16:56] <wingchunwarrior> edbian, okay. can we pvt chat channel is moving to quickly for me to follow.
[16:57] <txomon> picasso, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/666653/
[16:57] <txomon> Pici, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/666653/
[16:57] <txomon> sry picasso
[16:58] <dip_10> what does "acpi=copy_dsdt" mean?
[16:58] <konsumer> Pici, thanks for the help :) That new look was too OS X ish :D
[16:58] <Pici> txomon: If you run: sudo apt-get update first, does it fix your issue?
[16:58] <usr13> thunsucker: Well, I have a 10.04 system and not doing it here, so.... I dono.  Ok well.  Is mystery...
[16:58] <bourke> hi, does anyone know the warning you sometimes get from apt-get, something like 'replace conf with one from package Y/N/Z etc"
[16:59] <bourke> Im basically for a flag to always answer N to that..
[16:59] <bourke> -y doesn't seem to cut it..
[16:59] <txomon> Pici, already tried
[17:00] <blackhat> any one dere
[17:00] <txomon> Pici, is there any way to clean everything already downloaded? I just did apt-get clean/autoclean/autoremove
[17:01] <TheWarden> Hi, when a Ubuntu system boots up at times if not properly shutdown it will do a file system check and may prompt for user input. Is there a way to assume the answer to the prompts so no user interaction is required at this stage?
[17:02] <Pici> txomon: do this: sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/available /var/lib/dpkg/available-old
[17:02] <usr13> TheWarden: If it is prompting you for input, you more-than-likely have problems with that drive.
[17:02] <Tigger__> hi
[17:02] <Pici> txomon: then run  sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:02] <lupo_> ciao a tutti
[17:03] <txomon> Pici, dpkg: error: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/available' for reading: No such file or directory
[17:03] <txomon> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[17:03] <TheWarden> usr13: okay, but doesn't it prompt to repair or skip, etc? I want to set the default response so no user interaction is required.
[17:03] <txomon> same thing
[17:03] <usr13> TheWarden: Oh, sorry, I see that you said when 'not properly shutdown". Well same issue.  WHen the plug was pulled, file-system errors occured and it needs your permission to fix them.  You should quit pulling the plug.
[17:03] <glebihan> txomon, run "sudo apt-get update" first
[17:03] <txomon> glebihan, i did
[17:03] <Dexo> hey, is there any way to dualboot ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server?
[17:03] <Pici> Dexo: Why would you do that?
[17:04] <TheWarden> usr13: lol funny... power outage does the same thing. So how can one set the responses for those prompts?
[17:04] <usr13> TheWarden: If you have power outages, you should get a UPS.  (This is a desktop PC, right?)
[17:04] <Dexo> Pici: so i can use the desktop and host my game server when im not using desktop
[17:04] <txomon> Dexo, installing the server first?
[17:04] <Pici> Dexo: Do you realize that Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu server both use the same package repositories?
[17:04] <Dexo> txomon: i have desktop installed right now
[17:05] <Dexo> pici: ok? does that mean i cant dual boot them?
[17:05] <TheWarden> usr13: I don't have control over the environment... these devices running Ubuntu do not have a keyboard or mouse and is remotely administrated. I need to set default responses for those type of prompts.
[17:05] <txomon> Dexo, it would be as having 2 ubuntus at the same time
[17:05] <Pici> Dexo: You can, I just don't see the use, since they are the same thing, just with different packages installed.
[17:06] <TheWarden> usr13: no its not a desktop pc... it is used in an application environment or says as a STB (set-top-box)..
[17:06] <usr13> TheWarden: I see.  Let look and see if I can find an answer. (I don't know.)
[17:06] <IdleOne> Dexo: you can host your game server at the same time as running the desktop, all with the same single Ubuntu install.
[17:06] <Dexo> pici: would be running ubuntu desktop without the X be the same as Server?
[17:06] <TheWarden> usr13: I've been searching online for an answer but no luck so far.
[17:06] <lupo_> ao
[17:06] <b0whunter> hi
[17:06] <blackhat> hai friends
[17:06] <Pici> txomon: Okay, lets do this: sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/available-old /var/lib/dpkg/available
[17:07] <Dexo> IdleOne: but i dont want desktop lagging the server. it uses resources
[17:07] <txomon> Pici, done
[17:07] <Pici> txomon: Then: sudo dpkg --clear-avail; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:07] <Pici> Dexo: So you can turn off the service that provides the desktop environment.
[17:07] <Fidde> Hi
[17:07] <Fidde> I
[17:08] <konsumer> Hi
[17:08] <Dexo> Pici: how would i do that? im newish to  ubuntu.
[17:08] <IdleOne> Dexo: you can only boot one instance of Ubuntu at a time. Yes, you could install both server and Desktop on different partitions but you would only be able to boot to one of those and use it.
[17:08] <Pici> Dexo: sudo service gdm stop    or  start
[17:08] <Dexo> IdleOne: yes i know that
[17:08] <Fidde> I got an eee pc and want to install ubuntu netbook edition with wubi. But whan I choose ubuntu netbook and then start the installation I get the message that It can't download it
[17:09] <Dexo> Pici: and sudo server gdm start to re-enable the X?
[17:09] <Pici> Dexo: service, not server.  But yes.
[17:09] <xangua> Fidde: just install regular ubuntu
[17:09] <xangua> !une | Fidde
[17:09] <txomon> Pici, there is something strange in that file, its binary at the begging
[17:09] <usr13> TheWarden: Looking at http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-bypassing-fsck/ but not really applicable
[17:09] <Fidde> ok
[17:09] <Dexo> Pici: yea (typo)
[17:10] <Pici> txomon: Did you recently have an issue where you lost power, or had to hard-shutdown or similar?
[17:10] <Guest68605> trying irssi
[17:10] <Dexo> Pici: restarting the computer would also re-enable the X right?
[17:11] <usr13> TheWarden: Actually, the above URL may contain the correct method, adding to the end of the kernel line....
[17:11] <Fidde> Anyone know if eee pc suports 64 bits os?
[17:11] <b0whunter> Anyone else having problems with flightgear
[17:12] <Pici> Dexo: Correct.
[17:12] <Dexo> ok ty
[17:12] <Dexo> gonna try it now
[17:12] <usr13> TheWarden:  "Force fsck on boot using /forcefsck"
[17:12] <ThinkT510> Fidde: look up what processor you got
[17:13] <Guest68605> end the irssi test, bye and thanks
[17:13] <Fidde> intel atom n450
[17:13] <xangua> Fidde: no
[17:13] <Fidde> wubi is downloading the x64 version of ubuntu ...
[17:13] <konsumer> Fidde according to the Atom Processor website. It handles x86 and x86-64 CPUs
[17:13] <trism> Fidde: actually the n450 does
[17:13] <Fidde> okay
[17:13] <konsumer> So, yes, it should
[17:14] <txomon> Pici, yep
[17:14] <ThinkT510> Fidde: http://ark.intel.com/products/42503/Intel-Atom-Processor-N450-(512K-Cache-1_66-GHz)
[17:14] <b0whunter_> CAnt play flightgear in 11.04
[17:14] <ThinkT510> Fidde: short answer: yes 64bit
[17:14] <Pici> txomon: Well, a corrupt file such as that is one of the things that can happen if you don't shut down properly.
[17:15] <txomon> Pici, isnt there any way to reset it?
[17:15] <AndroidLoverInSF> when i vnc into my machine, after i type in the password. it says vnc connection closed, whats wrong? i think the pw is correct
[17:15] <txomon> Pici, cant i just delete it?
[17:15] <Pici> txomon: did you try that second set of commands that I gave you?
[17:16] <konsumer> AndroidLoverInSF, Have you tried connecting with out a password, just to be sure it works at all?
[17:17] <TheWarden> usr13: interesting but those solutions a to either skip or bypass file system check. I want to still have file system check but with default responses when it prompts to eliminate user interaction.
[17:18] <usr13> TheWarden: But the bottom line is that a server farm that does not have backup power (generator) / and / or ups's  is not a good very good server farm.  (Especially if it is in an area where there are power-outages often.
[17:18] <Fidde> When connecting to my wireless network the computer goes to text mode.
[17:18] <usr13> TheWarden: Yea, I know. Not really relevant.  But was thiking...
[17:18] <Fidde> and it sais panic occurred, switching back to text console
[17:19] <txomon> Pici, it worked
[17:19] <Pici> txomon: great!
[17:19] <txomon> or at least it seems to
[17:19] <TheWarden> usr13: yes I agree with you but I have to deal with reality. Reality is not everyone will get or understand the importance of a UPS. These systems are not owned my me nor do I have physically control over them. I just want to give answers to the prompts... as nothing is more annonying then having a prompt sit there and not fully bootup cause its waiting for someone to answer.
[17:19] <usr13> TheWarden: ... that It may be a clue as to a method of some other sort, because I just don't know how to alter fsck  intervention at boot time.
[17:20] <TheWarden> when no one is there watching it to be answered.
[17:20] <TheWarden> usr13: oh okay, well thanks for your help.
[17:20] <Fidde> can someone help me? :)
[17:20] <usr13> TheWarden: Still checking tho
[17:21] <ThinkT510> Fidde: i don't know many people who use wubi
[17:21] <TheWarden> usr13: as am I still searching :), thanks.
[17:21] <usr13> TheWarden: See my PM
[17:21] <danny__> servus
[17:22] <danny__> hello
[17:22] <juhpel> If I'm dual booting Windows and Ubuntu and wanted to use one data storage hard disk partition from both systems, should I format the partition as ext4 or ntfs or some other? (I couldn't find any ext4 file system drivers for windows)
[17:23] <ThinkT510> juhpel: ntfs
[17:23] <juhpel> ok, thanks
[17:23] <theadmin> juhpel: ntfs
[17:23] <theadmin> juhpel: Or fat32
[17:23] <ThinkT510> juhpel: if you know you won't be dealing with files bigger than 4gb then fat32 is an alternative
[17:24] <sushil__> HI , I am newbie and wants to contributes to Ubuntu. basically I am java Architect  . Can somebody guide me how my skills can be used for ubuntu .
[17:24] <spock> can somebody colon my name please, I want to see what the alert does in pidgin :)
[17:24] <BluesKaj> juhpel,, best to partition to ntfs , thereby guaranteeing access from wimdows and ubuntu
[17:24] <theadmin> spock:
[17:24] <spock> theadmin: lemme minimize and try again...
[17:24] <theadmin> spock:
[17:24] <juhpel> Ok, definitely bigger files than 4gb needed, so ntfs it is.
[17:24] <spock> sweet thanks, I get a popup
[17:24] <Dexo> pici: didnt work lol
[17:25] <BluesKaj> !java | sushil__,
[17:25] <Dexo> pici: once i stoped the X and enterd the terminal screen i couldnt get any commands to do anything
[17:26] <BluesKaj> !info java | sushil__
[17:26] <BluesKaj> heh
[17:26] <rww> !java
[17:27] <sushil__> Thanx Blueskaj , but I am not able to figure it out the types of work that  I can contribute  for..
[17:27] <BluesKaj> rww, he wants to write java aps or some such
[17:27] <usr13> TheWarden: http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/e2fsprogs-release.html#1.41.14
[17:27] <Pici> Dexo: Because you didn't know what to type? or some other reason?
[17:28] <Dexo> i did sudo apt-get to see if it would give a response and got nothing, i did sudo service dgm start and nothing. no commands worked
[17:29] <BluesKaj> Dexo, try update
[17:29] <rww> BluesKaj: JDK is the same instructions as JRE, just with the obvious packagename substitution
[17:29] <BluesKaj> rww, dumb bot
[17:30] <AndroidLoverInSF> konsumer: yes i disabled password but still have problem. weird was working before tunneled ssh. i didnt change anything now cant vnc into it, can still ssh into it
[17:30] <rww> BluesKaj: excuse me?
[17:30] <Pici> Dexo: Did you login?
[17:30] <Dexo> pici: i never logged out. how would i login?
[17:31] <BluesKaj> rww, there's no factoid for working with java in ubuntu , except to install java
[17:31] <Pici> Dexo: You should see a login screen in one of your ttys.
[17:31] <rww> BluesKaj: Perhaps you should write one, then.
[17:31] <Pici> Dexo: at ctrl-alt-f1 (f7 to return to your desktop)
[17:32] <auronandace> !participate | sushil__
[17:32] <Dexo> ohhhhhhhhh
[17:33] <BluesKaj> not me rww, I was trying to point sushil__ in the right direcdtion ...perhaps you misunderstood ?
[17:33] <Dexo> pici: i never know about that
[17:33] <TheWarden> fsck -a seems to be the solution but how to set that option for bootup fsck
[17:33] <Dexo> pici: after i login then do i do sudo service dgm stop?
[17:34] <Pici> Dexo: its 'gdm' and only if you want to stop the graphical interface.
[17:34] <famine> i need to enable 'DRM' in the kernel, but i cant find it menuconfig....anyone know where it resides?
[17:35] <tarfart> why is it when I statically assign an IP Address to a nick card, it unassigns ?
[17:36] <\DSAFEW\> famine, device-drivers->video cards->here maybe
[17:36] <BluesKaj> tarfart, how are you assigning it
[17:36] <tarfart> sudo ifconfig eth3 192.168.1.25 netmask 255.255.255.0
[17:36] <txomon> Pici, do you know the difference between dist-upgrade and upgrade
[17:37] <trism> famine: also, in make menuconfig, you can type / and then type a search string to search config names (in this case, DRM is probably useful)
[17:37] <Pici> txomon: I do... but this factoid is faster (and I wrote the factoid so theres that)...
[17:37] <BluesKaj> tarfart, you should do static in /etc/network/interfaces and set nm to use static
[17:37] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | txomon
[17:37] <r4`> When installing ubuntu 11.04 from USB, the installer keeps crashing when it comes to installing libreoffice packages (seems to be random on which ones)...any ideas on what to check?
[17:38] <Seveas> your usb disk
[17:38] <Seveas> the md5sum of the iso you downloaded
[17:38] <r4`> the error itself is very vague so there really isnt any information
[17:38] <r4`> ok
[17:38] <txomon> Pici, ty
[17:38] <r4`> thanks :)
[17:38] <Pici> txomon: you're welcome
[17:38] <BluesKaj> tarfart, in /etc/network/interfaces :  iface eth0 inet static
[17:38] <Seveas> no matter how vague, any info is better than nothing
[17:39] <Seveas> also, logfiles :)
[17:39] <tarfart> BluesKaj: what daemon must I restart for changes to take place ?
[17:39] <r4`> im guessing syslog would be the first place to look
[17:39] <BluesKaj> or whatever your eth0 equivalent , tarfart
[17:40] <BluesKaj>  tarfart  sudo /etc/init,d/networking restart
[17:41] <hazz> hi guys i got a little problem setting a ssh -x from a backtrack pc to a ubuntu laptop, i'm not able to see the ubuntu remote desktop
[17:41] <hazz> any help will be appreciated
[17:41] <BluesKaj> tarfart, sorry that was comma in init.d by mistake if you copied and pasted
[17:42] <tsimpson> hazz: ssh does not send the remote desktop, it just allows you to run remote applications on your local X server
[17:42] <llutz> hazz: -x diables X-forwarding and ssh doesn't do remote-desktop at all
[17:42] <Pici> hazz: also, keep in mind that the switch you'd likely want to use is -X, not -x
[17:43] <hazz> tsimpson, how can i view my remote desktop so.
[17:43] <thrillERboy> hazz: SSH and Remote desktop are different, ssh gives you access to remote machines CLI
[17:43] <Dulak> hazz: you can setup a vnc, or nxserver, or xrdp on the remote side to get a desktop type interface
[17:43] <hazz> sorry i miswrited
[17:44] <sushil__> Blueskaj : I was disconnect due to loose connection of DSL wire. But once I disconnected ..it takes 5 min. to reconnect again ..I dont know if its the problem with Ubuntu or with my laptop
[17:44] <tsimpson> hazz: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH
[17:44] <hazz> but many years ago i was able to view the remote desktop just with ssh, but right now i do not remeber how
[17:45] <Dulak> hazz: ssh -X will let you do something like 'sudo wireshark -i eth0' on the remote side and see the wireshark window on your local machine.  to see a desktop you need a remote desktop daemon running on the remote side.
[17:45] <Tohuw> hazz: perhaps with X11 forwarding or... Dulak just beat me to the other possibility.
[17:46] <hazz> tsimpson, thanks and other as well, infact i configured the X11 forwarding
[17:46] <BluesKaj> sushil__, if you have a loose connection then it's probly your laptop cycling thru several tries to connect until it finally does so.
[17:47] <sushil__> Blueskaj :  ya Blueskaj , I tries several times , but I understands that after a certain time only it reconnect
[17:48] <sushil__> Blueskaj : I understands that when the session time out then it reconnect agian
[17:50] <RNAndyB> Is there a reason that I wouldnt be able to mount a Fat12 floppy disk?
[17:50] <imark1> anyone using pidgin?
[17:50] <theadmin> imark1: Depends. For IRC? Nope. For IM? Yeah, me
[17:50] <BluesKaj> sushil__, you really should get a replacement cable or fix the one you are using
[17:50] <ariqs> ok, so I got a canon 4350d and installed a driver that's supposed to work in linux. Installed the printer and now it just sits there not printing anything
[17:51] <sushil__> BluesKaj :  Ya , i will buy a USB connection soon
[17:52] <BluesKaj> sushil__, have you tried the laptop wifi ?
[17:52] <sushil__> Blueskaj : How easy is Python to learn and practice
[17:52] <imark1> @sushil very
[17:52] <sushil__> BluesKaj : I am using the network manager
[17:52] <daan4711> Hi, I'm using an Apple Wireless Keyboard (bluetooth) with Natty. Now I would like to make my computer wake up from sleep, when hitting a button on my keyboard. Is this possible?
[17:53] <Dulak> sushil__: you can learn it pretty well in a week, maybe two if you're really not technical
[17:53] <Dulak> sushil__: as with anything learning it and mastering it are different things, but python is very easy on a novice
[17:53] <BluesKaj> sushil__, I have very little experience with python, only some scripts  , just auser
[17:53] <sushil__> BluesKaj : I am using the DSL config in network manager
[17:54] <BluesKaj> sushil__, yes the network manager should work in wifi mode if your router is wifi capable
[17:54] <sushil__> Dulak : But wts the main diff between python3 and 3
[17:54] <wahben> Hello Ubuntu community, I am having this really annoying problem which I want to resolve today, every once in a while my douns stops working, usually after my browser stays open for too long. killall firefox-bin and flashplayer processes does not resolve this, and restart gnome session doesn't either. I need to reboot the computer every time
[17:54] <wahben> Is there a way to find out which process is using my sound device?
[17:54] <sushil__> Dulak : sorrt 2 & 3
[17:55] <Dulak> sushil__: there are technical differences, 2 is entrenched, 3 is starting to get adopted.  If you want to work with anything legacy you use 2.  If you want to write an entire something from scratch, you use 3.
[17:56] <sushil__> Dulak : which version we use for Ubuntu
[17:56] <Dulak> sushil__: it's still 2
[17:56] <hazz> wahben, ps -x|grep '*the module of your sound processor' give a try
[17:56] <ThinkT510> sushil__: 2 is default, 3 is available in repos
[17:56] <Dulak> sushil__: the only distro to move to 3 is arch, afaik.
[17:56] <sushil__> Dulak : So its mean migrating to 3 will be little expensive
[17:57] <sushil__> Dulak ; In case of time
[17:57] <BluesKaj> wahben, which device is your soundcard ? , lspci -nn | grep -i audio
[17:57] <Dulak> sushil__: like I said, use 2 if you want to use the majority of python code out there.  Use 3 for something you write from scratch.
[17:58] <sushil__> Dulak :If a user write the code in 3 . Does 2 supports it in Ubuntu
[17:58] <wahben> BluesKaj, sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp*
[17:58] <Dulak> sushil__: translating code from 2 to 3 is fairly trivial if tedious.
[17:58] <wahben> BluesKaj,  Intel Corporation 6 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller [8086:1c20] (rev 04)  (oops)
[17:58] <ThinkT510> !info python3.2 | sushil__
[17:58] <Dulak> sushil__: no, if its python 3, the user would have to install python 3 packages
[17:59] <imark> python3 will be included as default as of 11.10
[17:59] <wahben> And I can see the only processes using my soundcard right now are pulseaudio
[17:59] <jstoone> Hi guys, how do I connect to the internet in the tty?
[17:59] <wahben> and my sound currently does not work
[17:59] <miet> hej
[18:00] <jstoone> wahben: Try to type "alsamixer" and see if everything is turned up (:
[18:00] <sushil__> dulak : can you  suggest .how to start with python
[18:00] <jstoone> wahben: (in terminal"
[18:00] <jstoone> wahben: (in terminal)*
[18:00] <Dulak> sushil__:  /join #python
[18:01] <wahben> I just tried to killall pulseaudio and start again and am now getting a initialization error: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-card" (argument: "device_id="29" name="platform-thinkpad_acpi" card_name="alsa_card.platform-thinkpad_acpi" tsched=yes ignore_dB=no card_properties="module-udev-detect.discovered=1""): initialization failed.
[18:01] <sushil__> dulak : Thanx Dulak
[18:01] <Sub_Zero> If I wanted to clone a folder to a local folder what would be the command for that. Say if I wanted to download the directory http://website.com/dir/ and everything inside that directory.
[18:02] <BluesKaj> wahben, let's start over , what's the problem with your audio ?
[18:02] <Dulak> sushil__: something to think about too, most distros will transition to 3 over the next 5 years or so.
[18:02] <lawker> Will 2.X still be installed by default?
[18:02] <RNAndyB> I am trying to mount a floppy disk. Weather it auto mounts or I mount it with "sudo mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy0" it says it works fine, but if I add files to it,remove the disk and put it in another machine nothing is on the disk.The files I add to the disk just get added to /media/floppy0 as a normal directory.If I try to umount /dev/fd0 it says the device is not mounted,even directly after I mount it.The disk is formatted as Fat12 with "mkdosfs -F 12 /
[18:02] <RNAndyB> dev/fd0".Any ideas why it may not mount?
[18:03] <wahben> BluesKaj, The problem is that the sound on my system frequently stops working, and I need to restart the computer for sound to start working again
[18:03] <sushil__> Dulak : Ok Dulak , so you suggest to start with 2 for the time being
[18:03] <imark> there are too many programs using 2 for now, they wont remove it yet
[18:03] <lawker> As I expected
[18:03] <wahben> BluesKaj, and even killing all firefox-bin and flash processes, and restarting the session doesn't help
[18:03] <Dulak> sushil__: it depends on what you are wanting to do with it.
[18:04] <sushil__> dulak : can we build Graphical Interfaces also with the Python2
[18:04] <BluesKaj> wahben, well , if you don't mind only being able to listen to only one audio stream at a time then I would remove pulseaudio
[18:04] <lawker> Transition from 2-->3 won't be a big deal in terms of learning the changes. Let the frameworks you are interested in drive where you start
[18:04] <Dulak> sushil__: yes there are libraries for making gui programs in python
[18:05] <wahben> BluesKaj, So basically you think it's pulseaudio being buggy?
[18:05] <Pici> sushil__, everyone else:  #python would be a better place to continue, as #ubuntu is really for Ubuntu support.
[18:05] <BluesKaj> wahben, yup, seems to have sticky problems
[18:06] <wahben> BluesKaj, I don't mind the issue too much, I just wish there was a simple way to restart it w/o rebooting the whole system, kinda drives me nuts
[18:06] <wahben> .. I just want to listen to music while I work ;p
[18:06] <sushil__> Dulak : Thanx dulak
[18:07] <wahben> BluesKaj, anyways, thanks all. I really hope that 11.10 is going to be greatly improved, 11.04 has been nothing but trouble so far
[18:07] <Dulak> sushil__: np, come into #python anytime
[18:07] <BluesKaj> wahben, pulseaudio is just a layer of of sounderserver processing that's basically redundant for ppl who don't listen to or network several audio stremas simultaneously
[18:07] <sushil__> Dulak ; are you there also
[18:07] <imark> @wahben 11.10 is not great so far
[18:07] <Dulak> sushil__: yes
[18:08] <NSR-Rainbowdutch> #celestiaradio is much more active than this chat....
[18:08] <sushil__> Dulak : I will catch you tomorrow
[18:08] <ThinkT510> NSR-Rainbowdutch: please don't advertise on this channel
[18:08] <sushil__> Dulak : Its late for today to join
[18:08] <shakesoda> NSR-Rainbowdutch: not a competition
[18:09] <wahben> akright well going to reboot computer, thanks and have a nice day
[18:09] <NSR-Rainbowdutch> oh hi shakesoda
[18:09] <wingchunwarrior> edbian, i just have a couple more questions
[18:09] <NSR-Rainbowdutch> and think I am just aayin not advertising
[18:09] <NSR-Rainbowdutch> sayin*
[18:09] <oCean> NSR-Rainbowdutch: please stop the offtopic talk
[18:10] <flash> do you guys know any themes for Natty narwhal ?
[18:10] <The_Pugilist> i am on ubuntu 11.04 and i would like to edit the launcher arguments for skype... is there any way i can do this without making a custom launcher that has to sit on my desktop?
[18:10] <ThinkT510> !themes | flash
[18:10] <flash> thanks
[18:11] <trism> The_Pugilist: the custom launcher doesn't have to stay on your desktop, you can move it anywhere you want before dragging it to the launcher
[18:12] <trism> The_Pugilist: I usually keep them in ~/.local/share/applications/
[18:12] <flash> How can I change the font color of my IRC?
[18:15] <IdleOne> flash: that depends on the client you are using
[18:15] <flash> IdleOne: XChat im using
[18:16] <IdleOne> flash: click on Settings > Preferences > Colors
[18:16] <rly> I creaed an adhoc wireless connection and there is an icon in Network manager which shows a signal with the name of the connection, but another device cannot see this connection (but it can see other connections). Is there anything else I need to do to enable sharing my Internet connection?
[18:16] <rly> created*
[18:17] <flash> test
[18:19] <flash> IdleOne: but what color do I change there are alot of options and I dont know what to change?
[18:20] <IdleOne> flash: I believe you want to change the foreground color
[18:20] <flash> IdleOne: I'll try
[18:21] <flash> tes
[18:27] <chaospsychex> ahoy ubuntites!
[18:29] <baha> hi, I have an AMD alptop does ubuntu.i386 work for it, I noticed there is an iso for amd64, what should I do?
[18:29] <acicula> maybe they are ub -offtopic?
[18:29] <acicula> baha: yes it will
[18:30] <baha> thanks, acicula, another question can I copy my programs from my intel laptop to the new amd one?
[18:30] <chaospsychex> baha: the x64 ISO is for 64-bit cpu's
[18:30] <acicula> baha: err misread, both should work, but amd64 should be fine unless you have an older computer
[18:31] <devil> volare
[18:32] <acicula> baha: the architectures are all the same in that respect so you can copy over programs
[18:32] <romenov> hi, has anyone tried downgrading his php version from 5.3 to 5.2 on 11.04?
[18:32] <gr33n7007h> does anybody know how to get the broadcom sta driver working
[18:33] <acicula> baha: but depending on what you mean by programs you might rather want to install programs using the ubuntu installer
[18:33] <acicula> romenov: does 11.04 have a 5.2 php package?
[18:34] <romenov> acicula: no clue :/
[18:34] <baha> acicula, I don't want to waste time, I have a laptop that has my programs on it and want the same on the new one, what can I do, would copying some folder from root do the trick?
[18:34] <acicula> baha: ah like so,no thats a bad idea. you should just reinstall the programs via the software manager
[18:34] <gr33n7007h> does anybody know how to get the broadcom sta driver working? plz
[18:35] <milamber> !clone | baha
[18:35] <acicula> heh thanks, was just looking how to do that
[18:36] <romenov> acicula: I can't use  a 10.x package for that?
[18:36] <acicula> gr33n7007h: have you tried updating ubuntu via a cable?
[18:36] <baha> ubottu, would this copy the installed programs?
[18:36] <baha> :D
[18:37] <acicula> baha: everything you installed using the package manager yes
[18:37] <acicula> 3d party programs like matlab or such you will have to reinstall/copy over
[18:37] <baha> acicula, this if I have the packages in the archive, right?
[18:37] <gr33n7007h> ive downloaded it from additional drivers i just need to activate it somehow
[18:37] <baha> apt/archive
[18:38] <milamber> baha: what do you mean by archive?
[18:38] <acicula> gr33n7007h: does the driver show in the additional drivers program?
[18:38] <baha> acicula, if I have made apt-get clear then this won't work right?
[18:38] <andresmh> what is the recommended ubuntu 10.10 repo to get the latest _stable_ version of FF? The default ubuntu repo still has FF 3.x, and others I've found have the bleeding edge versions.
[18:38] <acicula> baha: thats not realated
[18:38] <baha> milamber, I mean apt archive, the
[18:38] <acicula> *related
[18:38] <baha> really!!
[18:38] <theadmin> andresmh: ppa:mozilla-team/firefox-stable
[18:38] <baha> cool then :), thanks I'll try it
[18:38] <theadmin> andresmh: Err, mozillateam, rather
[18:38] <acicula> clean just removes surplus cached files
[18:39] <kuncup> test
[18:39] <andresmh> thanks theadmin, what is the apt-get syntax to add repos? :P
[18:39] <andresmh> nv
[18:39] <andresmh> nvm
[18:39] <kuncup> this is the place of share anything about ubuntu?
[18:39] <theadmin> andresmh: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update
[18:39] <andresmh> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/mozilla_team_firefox_stable?dist=natty
[18:39] <acicula> romenov: you can use apt-cache policy <packagename> to list the available versions in your repository
[18:40] <baha> acicula, so I have to do as ubottu said, right?
[18:40] <milamber> baha: the repositories are on the internets, if there is an equivelant package for the new install, it will install it. how many programs are you worried about? you can see what packages are available for the different versions at packages.ubuntu.com
[18:40] <gr33n7007h> the driver is activated but not currently in use
[18:40] <acicula> romenov: if its not their you could try using packages from an older ubuntu version, but you'll likely run into revision/dependency problems
[18:40] <Enox4> How should i verify grub2 is installed correctly?  grub-update ; grub-install ?
[18:40] <acicula> baha: yes, that will give you a cloned system
[18:41] <baha> acicula, milamber, thanks
[18:42] <jimmy51_> i'm looking for a utility i can point at an IP range and have it map the network as best as possible.
[18:42] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Enox4
[18:42] <jimmy51_> is there such a utility? i see forum posts referencing something called Dude but it looks old and isn't in the repo.
[18:42] <maheanuu> Ok, I have finished installing and setting up my daughter and her family on Ubuntu 11.04 and they love it but I am trying to get the manpages and more information to her in french.  I downloaded manpages-fr on my computer so that I possibly could copy the and give them to her for learning purposes but cannot find them on my puter   what directory are manpages kept?
[18:42] <acicula> jimmy51_: what do you mean my map
[18:42] <romenov> acicula: mmm no 5.2 php package :/ that sucks :s  would something like this work? http://randyfay.com/node/63
[18:43] <acicula> *by
[18:43] <theadmin> maheanuu: You can find the package in /var/cache/apt/archives
[18:43] <theadmin> maheanuu: And manpages are spread all over the system, you're better off getting the package
[18:43] <jimmy51_> acicula: show me what each IP is (type of machine, MAC prefix registered to, hostname, version, etc).  putting it in a visual diagram would be ideal (switches, routers, etc)
[18:44] <maheanuu> That is what I wanted to do but I couldn't find a way to down load the package without doing the "install"
[18:44] <acicula> romenov: it might yes, but if you get dependency issues you know why
[18:44] <theadmin> maheanuu: apt-get --download-only install manpages-fr
[18:44] <rly> How can I see a breakdown of internet traffic per application?
[18:44] <mazeLe> hi there, i have a ubuntu 10.04 LTS installed on a 64-bit Lenovo 3000 N200. since the latest update, i experienced major problems with my video/audio software. no player works, except mplayer. anyone else has these problems?
[18:44] <romenov> acicula: ok thanks I'll give it a try , I really need 5.2 because drupal's deprecated functions errors are driving me mad
[18:44] <rly> Something which updates in real-time.
[18:44] <maheanuu> smart you!!!!
[18:45] <acicula> jimmy51_: you mean something like zen or similar network monitoring tools?
[18:45] <jimmy51_> acicula: i've never used zen... maybe that's what i'm looking for.
[18:45] <maheanuu> Thanks much and didn't know about the "download-only" thingey...  I am really beginning to luv Ubuntu and Linux in general
[18:46] <jimmy51_> !info zen
[18:46] <jimmy51_> !zen
[18:46] <acicula> jimmy51_: nagios is probably the most famous
[18:46] <theadmin> !find zen | jimmy51_
[18:46] <maheanuu> I am stuck on an island where only myself and my family are using linux and we'e only learners
[18:46] <theadmin> maheanuu: Heh :D
[18:46] <maheanuu> We're not at the end of the world we
[18:46] <maheanuu> were over it
[18:47] <oCean> maheanuu: stop that nonsense please
[18:47] <jimmy51_> acicula: i'll try nagios if i can figure out what package to install
[18:47] <Dulak> rly: real-time is messy, iptraff can show you real-time.  ntop can give you a nice web-based statistical breakdown with charts and graphs, but it's delayed a bit.
[18:47] <rly> Dulak: I checked the ip address and it is Canonical, but I don't think it has ever done this.
[18:47] <rly> Dulak: I will try that.
[18:47] <acicula> jimmy51_: its called zenoss i think
[18:48] <rly> Dulak: (it basically downloads a ton of stuff)
[18:48] <html> is there xvid codecs?  for us ?
[18:48] <acicula> jimmy51_: they are basically network scanner/snmp collectors and service monitor tools with agent monitoring
[18:49] <acicula> html: yes
[18:49] <Dulak> rly: iptraff can show you quick and dirty info on an interface in real-time.  It's a console program.  ntop you run as a daemon and it has a web-based interface you load in the browser
[18:49] <theadmin> html: xvid is open-source, you should be able to find them
[18:49] <acicula> !restricted | html
[18:49] <jimmy51_> !info zenoss
[18:49] <rly> Dulak: yes, I understood that. I was just providing context.
[18:49] <rly> Dulak: thanks
[18:49] <Dulak> rly: np
[18:50] <theadmin> Well that was weird, maheannu or whatever his name was just PMed me a bunch of random nonsense and /quit
[18:50] <gr33n7007h> What is a subnet?
[18:51] <baldur-> I just installed Ubuntu and it finds my mother board network card... whenido "Sudo ifup eth0" then it says "Ignoring Unknown Interface  eth0=eth0."
[18:51] <Dulak> gr33n7007h: a network can be split into mini-networks using subnets
[18:51] <gr33n7007h> how many computers to a subnet
[18:51] <flash> Have you guys tryed out using LOIC (AKA Low Orbit Ion Canon) on ubuntu ?
[18:52] <Dulak> gr33n7007h: it varies depending on which subnet mask you use
[18:52] <Pici> !illegal | flash
[18:52] <acicula> !hacking | flash
[18:52] <gr33n7007h> what is subnet mask?
[18:52] <Dulak> gr33n7007h: google.com
[18:53] <gr33n7007h> ok
[18:53] <flash> I just use it to test my blog
[18:53] <george_> Hello my GF's inspiron 14r laptop has wifi problems
[18:54] <george_> the chipset is bcm 4313
[18:54] <acicula> flash: apache comes with benchmarking and profiling tools that will give you far better information about your blogs performance then such a tool will
[18:54] <theadmin> george_: Broadcom provides Linux drivers.
[18:54] <flash> ok
[18:54] <theadmin> !find wl
[18:54] <theadmin> Ugh...
[18:54] <BluesKaj> !bcm | george_
[18:55] <html> thanks
[18:55] <_BS_> Samba - will it make use (solely) of /etc/passwd? e.g. If I add a user to the samba group, are they good to go?
[18:58] <baldur-> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu and cant connect to internet, it finds my mother board network card... when i do "Sudo ifup eth0" then it says "Ignoring Unknown Interface  eth0=eth0."
[18:58] <baha> is this a 64 bit system? http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Athlon-II-P340-Notebook-Processor.37883.0.html
[18:58] <melanie> baldur: i would be interested in the output of: dmesg | grep -i eth
[18:58] <acicula> baha: yeah
[18:59] <ahayzen> Hi I am having an issue with my HDD where the PC won't boot ... either Ubuntu gets stuck loading or it gets stuck at BIOS 'Detecting IDE drives' ... I have booted off a live cd and have run a few commands and can't even access the HDD ..
[18:59] <ahayzen> 'sudo fsck.ext4 -v /dev/sda1
[18:59] <rickard> I cant get usb working in virtual box.. I can see it shadowed in devices dropdown.
[18:59] <ahayzen> e2fsck 1.41.14 (22-Dec-2010)
[18:59] <ahayzen> fsck.ext4: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda1
[18:59] <baha> acicula, so I should install the 64 bit ubuntu ?
[18:59] <ahayzen> Could this be a zero-length partition?'
[18:59] <FloodBot1> ahayzen: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:59] <ahayzen> I feel that it is a SATA controller issue as it seems to be temperamental but has now stopped the pc from working.
[18:59] <baha> acicula, 64 amd bit ?
[18:59] <acicula> baha: how much internal memory do you have
[19:00] <baha> acicula, 3 giga
[19:00] <baha> acicula, acer aspire 5552
[19:00] <baldur-> Melanie: is a big list can you be spesific to what on it you want... (it says link down in a few places)
[19:01] <acicula> baha: yeah you should be fine with 64bit
[19:01] <lilcyber> Hey
[19:01] <baha> acicula, thanks
[19:01] <b0whunter> mmm
[19:01] <b0whunter> ok
[19:01] <lilcyber> I know this isn't the right IRC for it, but does anyone know how to install TOR on backtrack 5?
[19:01] <baha> acicula, do you recommend 11.04 or another distro?
[19:01] <Pici> lilcyber : We do not support backtrack here, please use their support channel at #backtrack-linux
[19:01] <theadmin> !backtrack | lilcyber
[19:02] <lilcyber> Thank you.
[19:02] <melanie> baldur: i don't know what i am looking for. firt thing is: is the network adapter correctly recognized? is there any confusion with respect to the network device name? maybe you could use pastebin.
[19:03] <baldur-> melanie: give me one min i'll try to sort out pastebin
[19:03] <acicula> baha: eh id use 11.04, or use an LTS version if you dont want to upgrade too often
[19:04] <b0whunter> oic
[19:04] <b0whunter> oic
[19:05] <acicula> baha: i use the latest current release myself, but i put LTS versions on my moms system because it doesnt change as much
[19:06] <baldur-> melanie: http://pastebin.com/Bw1VvEQh
[19:06] <haaalp> "No root file system is defined.  Please correct this from the partitioning menu." i'm getting that when choosing /dev/sda as boot loader install path?
[19:06] <acicula> ahayzen: if the behaviour is inconsistent its likely something mechanical/temperature related, which would point to a faulty disk/cable rather then a faulty chip
[19:06] <haaalp> device for boot loader installation*
[19:07] <acicula> haaalp: eh isnt it asking which partitions it should put the grub boot loader files on, rather then asking where to put the MBR? /dev/sda can never be a valid filesystem
[19:08] <baldur-> .
[19:08] <acicula> ..
[19:09] <melanie> baldur-: i meant grep -i, not grep -l. ;-)
[19:09] <acicula> baldur-: does ifconfig eth0 up give an error?
[19:09] <haaalp> so... How should i do this? should i make a new partition table? because i don't want to remove my ntfs partition
[19:09] <Niche> hi
[19:09] <melanie> baldur-: anyway.
[19:09] <acicula> haaalp: eh not enough information, are you trying to install wubi or something?
[19:09] <george_> ok it says that the wl works but
[19:10] <george_> in my house it worked
[19:10] <george_> not in public places
[19:10] <melanie> melanie: as acicula said. try to bring the device up with ifconfig.
[19:10] <george_> and i checked the docs and it said something about the channels
[19:10] <Niche> I've got a powerful gaming PC running 11.04 Ubuntu and the UI seems very choppy and laggy. Radeon 4890, Phemo II x4 3GHz, anyone know what's going on?
[19:10] <baldur-> melanie: acicula: it does not give me error it sees the correct network card
[19:11] <haaalp> acicula: I'm currently in ubuntu LiveCD and want to install ubuntu completely without dual-boot, but i still want to keep my "D: ntfs" partition since i have my private files on that one.
[19:11] <acicula> george_: you have to configure every individual wireless network before you can use it
[19:11] <acicula> haaalp: so which partition do you have that has free space?
[19:12] <haaalp> currently i only have unallocated space since i removed my windows installation
[19:12] <acicula> baldur-: then your network card should be working fine, its just the ifup script thats not working. what are you trying to do and whats in your /etc/network/interfaces and/or are you using networkmanager for anything?
[19:12] <melanie> baldur-: and how about setting up the network by hand? i.e. with ifconfig, dhclient and/or route?
[19:12] <zteam> Anybody here knows a way to emulate a copy-protected CD from Ubuntu?
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Niche: have you installed the proprietary video drivers (your system isn't particularly powerful but is enough to run ubuntu well)
[19:13] <acicula> haaalp: ok so you'll have to make partitions in the unallocated space, or let the ubuntu installer do that for you
[19:14] <haaalp> acicula-: ok, so can i make one "ext4" partition and choose that and go ahead and install, or do i have to make other partitions too?
[19:15] <acicula> haaalp: you will need a swap partition as well
[19:15] <Niche> ActionParsnip, yes I have installed the proprietary ATI video drivers. I just mean powerful for Ubuntu... my Laptop has a Intel P4 2.8Ghz with a Mobility Radeon 9800 and ran Ubuntu 10.04 like butter with high compiz effects
[19:15] <george_> for the partitions you can to make one big ext4 partition and mount it as /
[19:15] <G0R> zteam: cd or dvd?
[19:15] <george_> it should be ok with that
[19:16] <haaalp> acicula-: how big is the swap recommended to be?
[19:16] <george_> it has to be twice the size of your actual RAM
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> Niche: does the system run ok if you log in to Ubuntu Classic session?
[19:16] <george_> if u have 1 GB
[19:16] <george_> it should be 2048 MBs
[19:16] <Niche> ActionParsnip, I just used the Windows Installer this time which did not have me set my swap or anything like that. Could this be the reason why? I have not yet tried the classic session.
[19:17] <haaalp> o.O so i have to make it 16Gb? o.O
[19:17] <baldur-> acicula: melanie:
[19:17] <Pici> haaalp: If you intend to hibernate, you will need as least as much swap as you have RAM.
[19:17] <cfedde> to add a user to a group do I need to do more than simply put their user name on the right line of /etc/group?
[19:18] <Dulak> george: that is good up to maybe 4g, then you just want enough swap to hibernate, if you even need hibernate.
[19:18] <zteam> G0R: a CD, I need something like daemon tools
[19:18] <haaalp> ok, so now i have on "ext4" partition and now i should make a "swap" partition that's double the size i have in RAM?
[19:18] <acicula> cfedde: thats enough
[19:18] <george_> yea
[19:18] <george_> thats what i believe if you want to hibernate
[19:18] <brandon_> s
[19:18] <acicula> cfedde: you needto start  a new session for it to take effect
[19:19] <cfedde> acicula: I thought so.  but after doig that, logging out and back in I don't see the new group when I run id.
[19:19] <haaalp> hibernate?
[19:19] <baldur-> acicula: melanie: i know the card was working but i am not abel to connect to the internet now i put in the numbers manually (ip gateway netmask) and it still does not work
[19:19] <G0R> zteam: if you need daemon tools, i would suggest wine.  i use dvd decrypter with wine and it works perfectly
[19:19] <brandon_> s -ls
[19:19] <baldur-> acicula: melanie: i cant ping my laptop atleast
[19:19] <melanie> baldur-: maybe you need to use dhcp?
[19:19] <cfedde> acicula: are you aware of some cacheing layer? ala nscd for example?
[19:20] <baldur-> melanie: i had it set to automatic (dhcp)
[19:20] <acicula> cfedde: no, just starting a new login shell should do it i think
[19:20] <baldur-> melanie: that did not work
[19:20] <haaalp> any more partitions i need except swap and ext4? and on what should i install the boot loader too?
[19:20] <cfedde> acicula: your understanding is the same as mine. I must have overlooked something.  thanks.
[19:20] <acicula> haaalp: boot loader files go onto the ext4 partition, but the boot record goes on /dev/sda
[19:21] <Niche> ActionParsnip, does installing with the windows installer ever create performance issues?
[19:21] <iceroot> haaalp: why not use the default partitions ubuntu is using?
[19:21] <iceroot> haaalp: and ext4 is not a partition, its a filesystem
[19:21] <acicula> cfedde:if you are using something like ldap that might take precedence over local files
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Niche: make sure you defrag your NTFS partition. Wubi is directly affected by the shortcomings of NTFS
[19:21] <zteam> G0R well, Daemon tools doesn't work with wine because it add drivers to the kernel, so I need to find something native for linux
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> Niche: if the NTFS gets very fragmented then it will
[19:21] <haaalp> yeah i know, but i'm to lazy to write that xD
[19:21] <cfedde> acicula: I don't think I am.  thanks
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> zteam: linux can mount ISOs natively. No need for extra tools
[19:22] <iceroot> haaalp: / is shorter then ext4 ....
[19:22] <theadmin> zteam: mount -o loop something.iso /path/to/lolfolder
[19:22] <haaalp> but doesn't ubuntu create the other partitions on auto if i only have an ext4 filesystem?
[19:22] <G0R> zteam: sorry, cd's are not my thing :(  I'm good with dvd's
[19:22] <iceroot> haaalp: doesnt matter what filesystem you have. tell ubuntu where to install and ubuntu will create the layout
[19:23] <haaalp> ok :)
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> zteam: windows is primitive nd needs extra tools to mount ISOs. Linux has been able to do it for years
[19:23] <iceroot> haaalp: you can choose to use the complete disc or to use a specific partitons, that partiton ubuntu will automaticly edit with the needed partitons
[19:23] <zteam> theadmin, that doesn't work because wine can't handle that thing
[19:23] <Enox4> By the way, if anyone remembers my earlier grub issues, it's a bug that if you have a snapshot on the boot volume apparently nothing will boot and it'll say disk not found.  Launchpad bug 563895
[19:23] <haaalp> ok thanks :) so ext4 filesystem is ok to choose to? since a friend of mine told me that
[19:24] <iceroot> haaalp: why choose ext4? ubuntu will do the step
[19:24] <zteam> ActionParsnip, yes, I know that but linux built-in tools doesn't work if the CD is copy-protected
[19:24] <iceroot> haaalp: do you also want to use windows on that disc?
[19:24] <theadmin> zteam: Wha? Point winecfg to that directory where the CD is as a drive
[19:24] <Niche> when I drag and drop programs onto my unity launcher, they do not stay there
[19:24] <Niche> what gives?
[19:25] <Niche> they just float back to their location in the folder
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> Niche: if you run the app it should appear, you can then right click it and select "keep in launcher"
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> Niche: you should be able to drag and drop from dash
[19:25] <zteam> theadmin, Already done that, and the the application just tells me to insert the CD
[19:25] <haaalp> iceroot: i dont want to use windows anymore at all, only in vm, and i have an ntfs partition that i want to keep since i have private data on that one, and i can't choose /dev/sda(i know why), and i only have unallocated space right now and can only choose to install on /dev/sda and /dev/sda5(which is my ntfs partition)
[19:25] <theadmin> zteam: That's... well... Not good :/
[19:26] <Niche> thank you
[19:26] <richardar> my front audio doesn't work, back audio ports work fine, what can I do?
[19:26] <iceroot> haaalp: then tell ubuntu to use the unallocated space
[19:27] <zteam> theadmin, nope, guess I just have to burn the CD instead... :-/
[19:27] <iceroot> haaalp: no need to create a ext4 partiton before
[19:27] <neur0tk> identify wickedcow33
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> richardar: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[19:27] <haaalp> iceroot: i can't choose that since i have to tell where the boot loader installation should be, that's what i meant by not being able to choose... Sorry
[19:28] <iceroot> haaalp: bootloader goes to sda
[19:28] <theadmin> zteam: Doubt that'd really work
[19:28] <iceroot> haaalp: that will not destroy your ntfs-partion
[19:28] <iceroot> haaalp: because sda is not a partiton
[19:28] <haaalp> iceroot: i can't choose sda since it will tell me "No root file system is defined.  Please correct this from the partitioning menu."
[19:29] <iceroot> haaalp: just choose "use the unallocated space"
[19:29] <iceroot> haaalp: the bootloader automaticly goes to sda
[19:30] <richardar> ActionParsnip, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=6b6f32c0ebcf0d46ffa5a9428eb1573b92032f89
[19:30] <haaalp> i can't... still! i have chosen the "something else" option, instead of "use the entire disk" and there are no "use the unallocated space" in the "device for boot loader installation", and i can't do much more from that...
[19:31] <jiltdil> How to change brightness of my screen i am using 11.04?
[19:31] <giveway> hello
[19:31] <iceroot> haaalp: what cd? alternate or the normal cd?
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> richardar: if you run:  alsamixer     make sure the levels are all unmuted and cranked
[19:31] <Aegir> Aegir heeft verlaten (Has Quit)
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: what make / model system?
[19:31] <haaalp> iceroot: the normal cd
[19:31] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip: ?
[19:32] <haaalp> i mean the LiveCD yes
[19:32] <richardar> ActionParsnip, "headphones" is greyed out
[19:32] <iceroot> haaalp: if you have unallocated space on that drive ubuntu will let you choose "install on unallocated space"
[19:32] <haaalp> tho i don't know if there is any other o.O
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: well you have a dim screen, is it part of a laptop?
[19:32] <jiltdil> ActionParsnip: i am on desktop
[19:33] <haaalp> iceroot: i dont have it :O
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> jiltdil: ok, does it have a make and model?
[19:33] <iceroot> haaalp: then you dont have unallocated space
[19:33] <iceroot> haaalp: you said you already create an ext4 partition?
[19:34] <richardar> ActionParsnip, all levels are at the max and the headphone option is just greyed out
[19:34] <haaalp> iceroot: would you mind using Teamviewer so i can show you?
[19:34] <haaalp> yeah but i removed it again
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> richardar: ok try adding: options snd-hda-intel model=laptop    in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf    reboot to test
[19:34] <richardar> ActionParsnip, ok, although this is a sandy bridge desktop
[19:35] <iceroot> haaalp: if you removed it correctyl, you will get "install in unallocated space"
[19:35] <richardar> my friends infact, I am so jealous
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> richardar: may help, could also try:  model=generic   or    model=auto    see what works
[19:35] <richardar> ActionParsnip, OK, Will report back :D
[19:36] <cfedde> acicula: turns out nscd was running on this node.   also thanks for your help.
[19:36] <haaalp> iceroot: still, no... Would you mind showing me on TV?
[19:36] <Oxymore> wow wow so many people there.
[19:36] <Chilaquiles> hey guys, is there any software that makes an avi file to be playable in a DVD player?
[19:36] <Chilaquiles> burning it into a DVD of course
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> Chilaquiles: devede
[19:37] <Chilaquiles> ActionParsnip: ok let me try thanks
[19:37] <Doc_bmh> nello
[19:37] <acicula> cfedde: ah ok, shouldnt nscd accept updates to /etc/groups though?
[19:37] <Doc_bmh> hello
[19:38] <cfedde> acicula: apparently there is a bit of a delay. based on whatever is in /etc/nscd.conf
[19:38] <aj00200> Is there a way to get more than 2 lib-notify messages on screen at the same time? Is it possible to replace libnotify to get this afect?
[19:38] <acicula> cfedde: maybe there is an option that will force nscd to reload whenever there is a change to passwd/groups, not like those change that frequently
[19:39] <cfedde> acicula: I suspect there is.  I just did a 'restart nscd'
[19:39] <cfedde> and that solved my problem.
[19:39] <acicula> sweet
[19:40] <haaalp> iceroot: isn't it just OK to choose the ext4 filesystem as directory for boot loader installation?
[19:41] <haaalp> or is it gonna create troubles?
[19:42] <avernos> is ttyusb is usb, bluetooth what is it? or where can i find it
[19:43] <haaalp> fuck this, i'm going for ext4 -.-
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> aj00200: you can create your own notifys with notify-send  so you can concatonate text then send it to the app, is this what you mean?
[19:43] <Doc_bmh> hello
[19:43] <Doc_bmh> login
[19:43] <Pici> haaalp: Please mind your language in this channel.
[19:43] <avernos> login accepted
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> haaalp: why not just let the installer manage it all, it will setup the partitions for you
[19:44] <aj00200> ActionParsnip: I don't think so. I'm looking to have multiple alert bubbles on screen at a time.
[19:44] <battle_warrior> hi, ive made  a total mistake.. and somehow screwed my system up totaly enough where every time i try to rewrite a text file.. it keeps saying ] I'm sorry, Dave, but I cannot let you do that.  .. the cause of my mistake?  chown -R 777 .  How do i ix this??? without using a gui.. its a server box
[19:44] <hacker357> can smb tell me how to make my ubuntu to restart@
[19:44] <haaalp> yeah but i'm to afraid that i will lose my ntfs partition where my private data is...
[19:45] <hacker357> it freezes on restart
[19:45] <richardor> ActionParsnip, I tried laptop and generic, neither worked
[19:45] <aj00200> battle_warrior: I'm not sure about your problem but you aren't using chown correctly unless your username is 777. You might be looking for chmod.
[19:45] <battle_warrior> -_-
[19:46] <avernos> battle_warrior, lol, did you issued that command as root?
[19:46] <battle_warrior> yes
[19:46] <bsmith093> im getting worried, has there been any updating of ubuntu in maybe three weeks? because apt doesnt seem to think so
[19:46] <avernos> looks like a nice little mess haha
[19:46] <battle_warrior> just a little...
[19:46] <bsmith093> battle_warrior: so not that much?
[19:46] <battle_warrior> well i cant do anythiung.....
[19:47] <battle_warrior> if i try to import something to the server from windows.. it refuses to read it
[19:47] <aj00200> bsmith093: do you have it set to check for updates automatically? If not, try running "gksu apt-get update" in a terminal. THere have been updates recently for 11.04.
[19:47] <battle_warrior> and this is a minecraft server!!! ....
[19:47] <avernos> well, usually there arent any kind of options like undo.. but you can set the perms by hand for everything, or just reinstall
[19:47] <fowlduck> does upstart respect LSB headers of scripts in /etc/init.d/* that are run via /etc/rcn.d/S* ?
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> richardor: try: options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 enable=yes
[19:48] <battle_warrior> ugh.. ill have to reinstall phpbb3... and webmin..
[19:48] <avernos> battle_warrior, 777 is open for everyone? shouldnt let you do that kind of things?
[19:48] <ThinkT510> !webmin
[19:48] <haaalp> someone that can PM me and help install? i've been using LiveCD for the past 2 days and i realy want to install ubuntu... :(
[19:48] <fowlduck> anyone?
[19:49] <corehook> hi all, anyone who can help me with Dlink DWA-126 wifi usb card ?
[19:49] <battle_warrior> avenos is there anyway i can fix this?
[19:49] <avernos> yeah, messing with that kind of critical stuff is dangerous.. i did something similar with move command
[19:49] <corehook> i can see wifi networks, cant inject packets but cant connect when wep/wpa2 will cracked
[19:49] <battle_warrior> is there anyway to fix it without haveing to reinstall my systm?
[19:49] <avernos> you changed the perms for the whole OS plus your own files?
[19:49] <aj00200> haaalp: the liveCD will walk you through the install. Feel free to ask if you have any questions.
[19:49] <battle_warrior> besides root
[19:49] <avernos> or just your home directory?
[19:50] <battle_warrior> i did my home directory
[19:50] <haaalp> aj00200: sure it will, but it will also delete my ntfs partition that i need to have, because if i dont i'll lose my job!
[19:50] <avernos> if is just your home directory, then it should be easy. change it back
[19:50] <battle_warrior> how?
[19:51] <brandon_>                                                                                        
[19:51] <aj00200> haaalp: there is a clearly marked option to install alongside windows. Also, if you arwe worried, make a backup of important files.
[19:51] <brandon_> [#ubuntu]
[19:51] <avernos> wait a sec, 777 is open for everyone, you shouldt have any problem using it. so im guessing is not just your home dir
[19:51] <NixNinja> can someone help me I am trying to build a vm image using ubuntu-vm-builder kvm natty but it keeps erroring out at the end with the message "File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/VMBuilder/contrib/cli.py", line 225, in main
[19:51] <NixNinja> "
[19:51] <haaalp> aj00200: i'm not gonna use windows anymore.
[19:51] <usr13>    battle_warrior Did you do chmod or chown ?
[19:52] <battle_warrior> when i import anything from windows or create a new file i have to add 777 to the file permissions
[19:52] <battle_warrior> i did sudo chown -R 777 .
[19:52] <avernos> battle_warrior, that looks like you changed the owner of the files, probably to root
[19:52] <kish> is there a simple ftp server with gui admin control?
[19:52] <battle_warrior> kish filezilla?
[19:52] <aj00200> haaalp: then maybe you should make a copy of your files to a CD for a removable device like a flash drive so that you can keep then once you have Ubuntu installed.
[19:53] <kish> battle_warrior, excellent. ty;)
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> chown 777  will change the owner of the files to whomever is UID 777
[19:53] <usr13> battle_warrior: You should have gotten an error that user 777 does not exist, (and nothing done).
[19:53] <battle_warrior> yeah i would think so .. but its there
[19:53] <qin> battle_warrior: ls -l ~
[19:53] <avernos> battle_warrior, im just another n00b trying to help..
[19:53] <kish> battle_warrior, are you sure filezilla is a server or just a client
[19:53] <haaalp> aj00200: the total amount of data is over 350Gb
[19:53] <battle_warrior> filezilla is a client that attaches to tthe server
[19:53] <aj00200> haaalp: how big is your hard drive?
[19:54] <haaalp> aj00200: 1TB
[19:54] <usr13> battle_warrior: And you would have had to have done it by sudo.  Is that right?  Your command was sudo chown 777 -R  But did you specify a path? Or not?
[19:54] <battle_warrior> quin http://pastebin.com/7BYbHvyX
[19:54] <battle_warrior> qin*
[19:55] <aj00200> haaalp: one option would be to leave the windows partition there just to store the files and then you can copy them over to your Ubuntu partition after it is installed and delete the windows partition with a gparted CD.
[19:55] <battle_warrior> avernos i apreciate your help,
[19:55] <battle_warrior> im not trying to bite your hand
[19:55] <usr13> battle_warrior: Looks like it was 775 instead of 777
[19:55] <battle_warrior> yeah first they said 775, on mysql
[19:55] <battle_warrior> then they said i should use 777
[19:56] <kish> battle_warrior, i need the server. im going with pureftpd it has an additional gui admin
[19:56] <kish> package
[19:56] <battle_warrior> kish i wouldnt know  ask the people here,
[19:56] <avernos> battle_warrior, :D well trying to give you some pointers, but there are probably more stuff to it
[19:56] <qin> battle_warrior: sudo chown minecraft /home/minecraft/* then eventually try -R
[19:57] <usr13> battle_warrior: Just do chown -R minecraft   (From the same dir and you did before.)
[19:57] <qin> battle_warrior: And your faulty command was 775 not 777
[19:57] <battle_warrior> yeah
[19:57] <usr13> battle_warrior: ... which hopefully was /home/minecraft/
[19:58] <richardor> ActionParsnip, not working
[19:58] <haaalp> aj00200: ok, i'm gonna explain the problem to you........ I want to install ubuntu, right? but i dont want to remove my ntfs partition (that is not an windows installation btw) that holds my private data (almost my entire life), and i have chosen the "something else" option instead of "erase entire disk", and i have deleted my C: partition that held the windows installation, so now i have lots of unallocated space, and i'm stuck at "di
[19:58] <richardor> ActionParsnip, now sound just doesn't work at all :/
[19:59] <battle_warrior> i did chown -R minecraft * and yet it still says "im sorry dave but i cannot let you do that
[19:59] <battle_warrior> even after a succeesful rewrit
[19:59] <aj00200> haaalp: your message was cut off because it was too long. I saw all the way up to i'm stuck at "di
[19:59] <haaalp> have stated numerous times, but no one gets it apparently, and neither can i choose /dev/sda2 since that's the ntfs partition, and i dont have an option to choose "use unallocated space"
[19:59] <usr13> battle_warrior: sudo chown -R minecraft
[20:00] <usr13> battle_warrior: sudo chown -R minecraft   /home/minecraft/
[20:00] <battle_warrior> o
[20:00] <usr13> haaalp: So you are stuck?  Stuck where?  :P
[20:00] <MrDave> can i ask about Oncielot here
[20:01] <Pici> MrDave : Oneiric/11.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[20:01] <haaalp> and if i choose "/dev/sda" i get the error "No root file system is defined.  Please correct this from the partitioning menu." and if i choose "/dev/sda" i will delete my ntfs partition, which i don't want to do...
[20:01] <MrDave> im debugging for buntu >:)
[20:01] <usr13> haaalp: Ok first off, /dev/sda is not a partition, it is a drive.
[20:01] <richardor> My front audio ports don't work, what can I do?
[20:02] <haaalp> yeah i know, i'm just lost when typing...
[20:02] <usr13> haaalp: So which partition do you need to keep, (not erase)?
[20:02] <aj00200> haaalp: you might need to pick the mountpoint from a dropdown and select / or you might need to check the reformat box
[20:02] <haaalp> and i'm very frustrated now since i have used the LiveCD for the past 2 days...
[20:02] <avernos> haaalp, looks like you need to choose the / filesystem which is the C: in windows?
[20:02] <usr13> haaalp: If you are not sure, back out now and start over.
[20:03] <usr13> haaalp: ... before you delete what you did not delete.
[20:03] <battle_warrior> usr13 http://pastebin.com/TDYWW0xL   i did sudo chown -R minecraft /home/minecraft
[20:03] <battle_warrior> as you see from the text
[20:03] <usr13> haaalp: Is this a desktop or laptop?
[20:03] <haaalp> i can't choose the C: since it's gone completely, and i don't want to remove the /dev/sda2 partition since that is the ntfs partition
[20:03] <haaalp> it's desktop
[20:03] <haaalp> well /dev/sda5 it says
[20:04] <aj00200> haaalp: do you need to select "Create a new partition" or something similar? That would allow you to use unallocated space. Then set the mountpoint to "/"
[20:04] <usr13> battle_warrior: Ok, that should do it.
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> battle_warrior: looks fine
[20:04] <battle_warrior> it should....
[20:04] <battle_warrior> but it keeps saying "im sorry dave.. i cant let you do that
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> battle_warrior: what makes the dave message?
[20:05] <haaalp> aj00200: i can create a new partition of the unallocated space from the installation yes.
[20:05] <battle_warrior> the server box is a dedicated minecraft server,  theres a command from the console where i can add people to a "whitelist"
[20:05] <battle_warrior> when i do whitelist add "username"  it says that mesage
[20:05] <usr13> haaalp: I advise people to add another HD and just use it all. (Little safer than figuring out which partition(s) not to use.)
[20:05] <Cobra17> witam wszystkich
[20:06] <aj00200> haaalp: it sounds like you need to set a mountpoint on that partition.
[20:06] <Pici> !pl | Cobra17
[20:06] <haaalp> usr13: i cant do that since all my HDD's are used
[20:06] <haaalp> aj00200: then how do i do that?
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> battle_warrior: didn't know whitelist was a command
[20:06] <Caltwentynine> Hey does anyone here know much about getting dx games to run better in wine
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> battle_warrior: what does it do?
[20:06] <Caltwentynine> or perhaps a bit about achieving better performance with ati gfx cards
[20:06] <battle_warrior> you can add whitelist from the console instead of adding it yourself from notpad
[20:07] <usr13> haaalp: But basically what you want to do is first delete all the partitions you can (ones that you don't need to save data on), and then use free space as needed.
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Caltwentynine: have you asked in #winehq
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Caltwentynine: which version of wine?
[20:07] <battle_warrior> all it does is add a person user to the whitelist text file
[20:07] <aj00200> haaalp: either select the parition you created or create a new one if you start over with the install and when you are editing it there should be a box that lets you set your mountpoint to "/"
[20:07] <Caltwentynine> alright ty
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> battle_warrior: http://www.hostedgameservers.com/2011/how-to-enable-a-whitelist-on-your-minecraft-server
[20:08] <aj00200> haaalp: you might need to right-click and select edit or doubble-click it. I don't remember how to get to the place where you can enter that information
[20:08] <battle_warrior> i know how to enable whitelist....
[20:08] <battle_warrior> i have it enabled...
[20:08] <richardor> ActionParsnip, Anything else I can try
[20:08] <splnet_work> Is it possible to change the pw on an encrypted partition?
[20:08] <battle_warrior> but i cant add text to the whitelist file!
[20:09] <battle_warrior> from console
[20:09] <avernos> battle_warrior, have you tried adding the users editing with sudo? :P might not be a good idea?
[20:09] <haaalp> starting the installer, choosing "Something else" at "allocate space" instead of "erase disk and install ubuntu", now?
[20:09] <battle_warrior> how?
[20:09] <battle_warrior> http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/SMP_Server_commands
[20:09] <battle_warrior> avernos how?
[20:09] <JakeR003> hello
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> richardor: you are looking for entries for that file to try, you only want one line (remember to remove the last one you tried each time)
[20:09] <baha> how to trigger the search for restricted drivers? ( I know my laptop needs them but it doesn't show this in the hardware drivers applet)
[20:09] <alaing> how do i upgrade my version of mysql
[20:09] <avernos> battle_warrior, sudo vi whilelist_file
[20:09] <Corvus> Anyone around that might be able to help me out with a resolution issue?
[20:10] <alaing> its currently 5.1
[20:10] <JakeR003> is there a program to clean ubuntu from old backups and files?
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> richardor: check the front audio is enabled in BIOS (if it is an option). You may find bug reports for it too
[20:10] <JakeR003> like there is an .img.old
[20:10] <richardor> ActionParsnip, I've tried everything you've said and I deleted everything previous
[20:10] <avernos> battle_warrior, would be the same idea as using notpad, instead of using the comand..
[20:10] <usr13> haaalp: You have to decide how to use the free space you have, (in what ever spots you have it on).  Either that, or you need to move the one you are saving to the end or beginning so that you have large enough space for Linux partitions.  At the least, you need one ext4 partition and one swap partition.  If you only have one ext4 partition, it needs to be at least 10 or 12G and the swap as big or little bigger than ram.
[20:10] <richardor> That's a good idea
[20:10] <Shwaiil> hi ppl
[20:10] <Shwaiil> Q: Does anyone know where's the application data folder of FIREFOX in ubuntu ? Tks!
[20:10] <baha> alaing, have you tried [sudo apt-get install mysql5]?
[20:11] <battle_warrior> avernos yeah editing the notepad directly would be a good idea.. but before i screwed it up i could access and write to the notepad from the console
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> Shwaiil: ~/.mozilla/firefox
[20:11] <Pici> alaing: Which version do you want to upgrade to?
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> alaing: http://forums.mysql.com/read.php?154,401279,401279  maybe
[20:11] <qin> Shwaiil: dpkg -L firefox
[20:11] <baha> Shwaiil, you mean the executable ? it's in the usr/bin I think
[20:11] <alaing> Pici 5.6
[20:11] <battle_warrior> avernos its like all my permissions been borked
[20:11] <avernos> battle_warrior, i would guess the group or perms, perhaps you can try to find out how to let your user edit it. but if you edit with sudo and it works then might be enough
[20:12] <Shwaiil> thanks a lot for looking. actually i'm trying to find the application data folder, where the temp files are
[20:12] <Shwaiil> to get a FLV file I just downloaded from facebook
[20:12] <usr13> haaalp: If you have one area of free space that is only about 10G or so, and another space that is same or larger, make a 10 or 12G partition for /  and another (larger) one for /home  and then (small) one for swap.
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> Shwaiil: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[20:12] <battle_warrior> avernos when i run minecraft.sh it becomes the server for minecraft.. sudo commands or normal ubuntu commands dont work while i have.sh running
[20:12] <haaalp> now making a new partition like following: new partition type: primary, size: enough to leave about 20Gb, place for the new partition: start, filesystem: ext4, mount point: /
[20:13] <avernos> battle_warrior, i dont even know what is minecraft, but try to find out what group uses, what perms the files should have, and set it to what it should be..
[20:13] <battle_warrior> minecraft is like roblox..... think legos on sterioids...
[20:13] <battle_warrior> sand box creativity
[20:13] <avernos> interesting
[20:13] <avernos> but is it still running?
[20:13] <battle_warrior> testris and legos on seriods
[20:14] <Pici> alaing: I don't see anything newer than 5.1 in Ubuntu :/
[20:14] <avernos> works fine even with the perms or whatever mess?
[20:14] <aj00200> haaalp: that sounds correct.
[20:14] <mega1> How can i backup ubuntu server and then restor it
[20:14] <battle_warrior> if i let the sh create the original stuff yes.. but when i even edit the slightest thing.. it keeps say ing certain things are pemission denied
[20:14] <usr13> haaalp: It all depends on how much free space you have and how many areas (of free space) and how large each of them are.
[20:14] <tsangetsu> this is my first time here..........
[20:14] <alaing> Pici I just saw 5.6 in the mysql documentation
[20:15] <alaing> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.6/en/sql-syntax-prepared-statements.html
[20:15] <haaalp> aj00200: now for the next partitions, what should they be?
[20:15] <zackoch> Hey all - I have a VLAN configuration question and don't want to flood the channel with a bunch of text so if anyone would like to read my pastebin I'd appreciate it! http://pastebin.com/vwMp3FCS
[20:15] <battle_warrior> pastebin.com
[20:15] <Pici> alaing: It looks like 'early access' to 5.6 has been offered.
[20:15] <alaing> but what about the other versions?
[20:15] <aj00200> haaalp: you should leave all of those the same unless you have anything else that you want to change. Changing those could result in their contents being erased if you are not careful
[20:16] <haaalp> usr13: i only had one "unallocated space" area
[20:16] <alaing> i currently have 5.1.54
[20:16] <haaalp> aj00200: so i should choose the ext4 filesystem as directory for boot loader installation?
[20:16] <avernos> battle_warrior, server is running? have you stopped and started again after the mess and works fine?
[20:16] <battle_warrior> yes
[20:17] <battle_warrior> and stil having a problem
[20:17] <aj00200> haaalp: yes
[20:17] <haaalp> aj00200: ok, here goes :)
[20:17] <Pici> alaing: I'm by no means a mysql guru, but it looks like 5.1 and 5.5 are the two branches that are currently offered for download on mysql's site. I don't know why 5.5 is not available in the repositores
[20:17] <battle_warrior> i cannot add plugins to the server directory "plugins are thigns to help make it more fun" without permission denied
[20:18] <avernos> battle_warrior, and sudo or root would get permission denied too ?
[20:18] <battle_warrior> sudo and root commands doesnt work in minecraft.sh....
[20:18] <usr13> battle_warrior: Where do the plugins go?
[20:18] <battle_warrior> minecraft/plugins
[20:19] <usr13> battle_warrior: Where is minecraft/plugins ?  (Need to see full path)
[20:19] <avernos> battle_warrior,  you could open another terminal, out of minecraft.sh and use sudo/root to edit the files
[20:19] <battle_warrior> yeah i could but tht would be the same idea as editing the files using notepad, using nano is hectic
[20:20] <battle_warrior> to me at least
[20:20] <michlemken-1> I fear i am doomed to use Ubuntu with my new laptop - i start to like it (Ubuntu, coming from Debian)
[20:20] <n2diy>  I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10, and i lost some of my system sounds. Thunderbird doesn't beep, or play a .wav when I receive e-mail, xchat-gnome doesn't beep when someone uses my nick, but korganizer's calendar alarm beep works, and I can play .wav files when I double click them, ideas?
[20:20] <alaing> Pici strange
[20:20] <Webonaute> hi. I try to access a MacMini share directory via my ubuntu. samba is installed, I can see Workgroup but when I clic on workgroup, nautilus can't display the list of PC connected
[20:20] <battle_warrior> usr13 its /home/minecraft/plugins
[20:20] <zackoch> Ugh crapolla plz dissregard my pastebin VLAN problem I had above :) I figured it out !
[20:21] <haaalp> aj00200: this is what i get: "You have not selected any partitions for use as swap space. Activate a swap space is recommended so that systems can better use the available physical memory and it appears better when it's not out of physical memory. You may experience problems during installation if you do not have enough physical memory."
[20:21] <usr13> battle_warrior: Did it require sudo or root to install the game files?
[20:21] <haaalp> "If you do not go back to the partitioning menu and assign a swap partition as the installation will continue without swap space"
[20:21] <gusg> I need to install some libraries on a machine I don't have root access to. I know I can download repositories to arbitrary directories. How can I make other programs, which dynamically link to the libraries, find the library?
[20:21] <aj00200> haaalp: how much RAM do you have?
[20:22] <haaalp> 3Gb right now
[20:22] <battle_warrior> when i created the server stuff adding a ip redirectioon yea, but in minecraft own directory i could edit any file .. using the server commands  http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/SMP_Server_commandsv  without a problem...
[20:22] <mega1> How di I back up ubuntu server
[20:22] <battle_warrior> but since i did the chown -R 777.. i cant do anything without doing sudo
[20:22] <lonelyplanet> haalp: don't worry if you need swap spce you can create it after installing
[20:23] <battle_warrior> sorry.. 750*
[20:23] <haaalp> and i have now 20Gb unallocated space
[20:23] <aj00200> haaalp: I can help you set it up if you want, otherwise, 3GB should be more than enough
[20:23] <acicula> gusg: you can overload the dynamics loader library path, think its called LD_something
[20:23] <battle_warrior> and even in the game if i try to add to  the files it keeps saying "sorry dave i cannot do that"
[20:24] <avernos> battle_warrior, sorry i dunno how the game works.. gonna get some sleep.. good luck^^
[20:24] <haaalp> aj00200: so it will be safe by just keep going?
[20:24] <battle_warrior> im gonan have to reinstall it looks like..
[20:24] <html> is there  a such thing as installing the os and all your apps , when finished make an iso out of that?
[20:24] <battle_warrior> slorry to bother you all
[20:24] <aj00200> haaalp: yes. If you need swap space you can create it at any time if you have free disk space
[20:24] <acicula> gusg: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/your/own/lib yourprogram
[20:24] <haaalp> aj00200: ok :)
[20:26] <haaalp> wiiie, finally installing :D
[20:26] <haaalp> aj00200 and others that have helped me, thank you guys so much :D :D
[20:26] <haaalp> tho i ate the last cookie, so i can't give you one! :)
[20:27] <aj00200> haaalp: you're welcome, come back any time :)
[20:33] <n2diy>  I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10, and i lost some of my system sounds. Thunderbird doesn't beep, or play a .wav when I receive e-mail, xchat-gnome doesn't beep when someone uses my nick, but korganizer's calendar alarm beep works, and I can play .wav files when I double click them, ideas?
[20:35] <aj00200> n2diy: is it possible that the sound profile was changed?
[20:35] <gusg> acicula: thanks for the help
[20:36] <acicula> gusg: yw
[20:36] <aj00200> n2diy: I think you get to the sound settings at System > Preferences > Sound
[20:38] <n2diy> aj00200, thanks, but I double and triple checked my menu options.
[20:42] <haaalp> aj00200: it said that my installation image was to old? :S
[20:42] <kevor> Hi, where can I change the default FN-key and Scroll-Lock key?
[20:43] <kevor> or num lock I mean
[20:44] <aj00200> haaalp: that is ok
[20:44] <akSeya> hey folks.. anyone here familiar with winexe ? I got it properly installed and can run cmd for example. The problem is I can't send backspace nor arrow keys ... it sends ^? [[B^ [[A^ [[C^ [[D^
[20:44] <akSeya> any idea on how can I solve that?
[20:44] <aj00200> haaalp: what version did you install as you might want to update
[20:45] <haaalp> aj00200: apparently not since the installation crashed because of it :(
[20:45] <aj00200> haaalp: or did it not install correctly?
[20:45] <aj00200> oh
[20:45] <aj00200> did you install 11.04 and was this message about using Unity?
[20:45] <haaalp> yes i'm using the 11.04 LiveCD that i downloaded a while ago
[20:46] <haaalp> no it was about OpenOffice, or what the hell it stood
[20:47] <aj00200> did this error happen during the install or after your computer restarted?
[20:47] <haaalp> during the install
[20:47] <haaalp> and the installer has been frozed
[20:48] <LoRez> why is python-kinterbasdb 3.2-3ubuntu3 on amd64 in lucid, but 3.3.0-2 on i386?
[20:48] <aj00200> haaalp: The settings should be correct, but I don't know what the probelm is here
[20:49] <haaalp> aj00200: do you know the name of the installer process so i can shut it down?
[20:49] <aj00200> haaalp: I am sorry, I do not know.
[20:50] <html> haaalp,  what do you need help with ?
[20:50] <haaalp> aj00200: crap then i guess xD lol is it possible to update the LiveCD while using it?
[20:51] <aj00200> haaalp: no, it is not. I have never heard of htis error and I'm not aware of a more up to date version of hte LiveCD
[20:52] <haaalp> aj00200: aah shit! -.-
[20:52] <coz_> haaalp,  what are you installing
[20:52] <haaalp> coz_: i'm installing ubuntu
[20:52] <coz_> haaalp,  oh!  and you want to stop the process?
[20:52] <h00k> haaalp: please keep the language family-friendly in nere :)
[20:53] <haaalp> coz_: i already did since it gave me some error about openoffice and then crashed...
[20:53] <haaalp> gonna run installer again but without using the update under install
[20:53] <haaalp> during install*
[20:54] <coz_> haaalp,  so the installed crashed... are you using the live cd?
[20:54] <coz_> installer
[20:54] <haaalp> coz_: yes i am
[20:54] <chaospsychex> what's the ubuntu equivalent of the windows 'ipconfig' command ?
[20:54] <Dogget> Hey all. having an issue putting 11.04 on my machine. 10.10 is fine, 11.04 is not willing to work (upgrade or clean install).
[20:54] <Dulak> chaospsychex: ifconfig
[20:55] <coz_> haaalp,  I often suggest the mini  iso at 19 megs ,, it installs via the net,, with a list of stuff you can install,, I generally only suggest ubuntu-desktop however
[20:55] <coz_> !mini | haaalp
[20:55] <haaalp> tho it say's it's installed :S so i'm gonna try to reboot without the LiveCD, i will be back with an answer :D
[20:55] <coz_> haaalp,  ok
[20:55] <chaospsychex> what's the ubuntu equivalent of the windows 'ipconfig -a' command ?
[20:56] <chaospsychex> what's the ubuntu equivalent of the windows 'ipconfig /all' command ?
[20:56] <coz_> chaospsychex,  mm maybe  ifconf  ?
[20:56] <chaospsychex> im trying to find my gateway address
[20:56] <embrik> i can remember that i earlier was able to find flash-movies i watched online, in the tmp-folder - isn't that possible anymore?
[20:56] <Dulak> chaospsychex: netstat -rn
[20:58] <julian_> how download the new version of ubuntu, ubuntu 11.10?
[20:58] <exutux> chaospsychex: ip --help
[20:58] <rww> julian_: 11.10 hasn't been released yet, and is thus not "the new version of Ubuntu" yet.
[20:59] <julian_> app,. ok., tks
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> julian_: oneiric is offtopic here, it is supported in #ubuntu+1
[20:59] <exutux> chaospsychex: for to find your gateway route -n or ip route
[21:01] <l13w31yn> so here's hopin someone is willing to help me. I went ahead a took the plunge and am now running ubuntu 11.04, however I'm having an issue with my main source of internet. a USB device. anyone got some suggestions?
[21:03] <html> julian_,  well try torrant first because if you lose connection  at all you'll have to restart it, and you can stop slow and restart agin just make sure you got a real copy, and a fair to large crowd torranting with you
[21:05] <polleri> Hi I just installed 11.04 on an old machine with ATI Raedon 9200 SE, after running unity_support_test i got  Not software rendered:    yes
[21:05] <polleri> Not blacklisted:          yes
[21:05] <polleri> GLX fbconfig:             yes
[21:05] <polleri> GLX texture from pixmap:  yes
[21:05] <polleri> GL npot or rect textures: yes
[21:05] <FloodBot1> polleri: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:05] <Dogget> I would like to move to 11.04 from 10.10 myself, but getting stuck at boot with a black screen and PC needing a hard reset. 10.10 working fine, 11.04 causing issues.
[21:05] <polleri> GL vertex program:        yes
[21:06] <khtaam> Hi! Is it possible to edit a comment in a launchpad bug? I published the e-mail address of someone else by accident
[21:06] <W3ird_N3rd> so I got an application (neroAacTag) and I try to filter it's output using grep - but grep is ignored. Even neroAacTag > test gives me an empty file
[21:06] <W3ird_N3rd> what to do about that?
[21:06] <aj00200> khtaam: you might want to ask that in #launchpad
[21:07] <W3ird_N3rd> khtaam, is afaik not possible
[21:07] <khtaam> aj00200, thanks
[21:07] <l13w31yn> what channel should I go to for newbie questions then?
[21:07] <frantk> l13w31yn: suggestions for what? you have not said what the issue is or even what kind of USB device you're talking about :)
[21:09] <l13w31yn> it's a verizon um175 usb modem, I've got the software (vz access manage) to work via wine, but it won't recognize the device
[21:09] <l13w31yn> not sure where to go to from there.
[21:10] <coz_> l13w31yn,   if no one can help with this at this time,, you can try the ## linux channel
[21:10] <coz_> ##linux
[21:10] <l13w31yn> thank you
[21:10] <coz_> l13w31yn,  or maybe the ##hardware channel
[21:10] <ActionParsnip> l13w31yn: you don't need the software in wine for 3G modems
[21:11] <ActionParsnip> l13w31yn: if you run:  lsusb    you will see an 8 character hex ID which will help you find guides, make sure you have usb-modeswitch installed
[21:11] <chaospsychex> how do i mount a harddrive that is in a windows machine on my network so i  can access it on my ubuntu machine ?
[21:12] <guntbert> ^^^^^^^^^^^^Josh: stop that please
[21:12] <^^^^^^^^^^^^Josh> Sorry, forgot about these other channels.
[21:13] <Bisu[Shield]> where do i post a script?
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: you mount partitions, not drives
[21:13] <guntbert> !paste | Bisu[Shield]
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: if you mount it, you can then share the mount point using sambe
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> *samba
[21:14] <W3ird_N3rd> thank you, solution was at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2342826/how-to-pipe-stderr-and-not-stdout
[21:14] <MO_Handes> I think there was a room containing bots to help ubuntu users in this server? anybody has it's name?
[21:14] <W3ird_N3rd> command 2>&1 >/dev/null | grep 'something'
[21:14] <chaospsychex> got a link  for samba? detailed explanation and how to use it and all that ?
[21:14] <chaospsychex> !samba
[21:14] <sixfour> it
[21:14] <MO_Handes> I think there was a room containing bots to help ubuntu users in this server? anybody has it's name?
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> chaospsychex: you can manipulate samba using nautilus, just install samba using software centre
[21:14] <MO_Handes> !bot
[21:14] <hellothere007> how do you slow down terminal text?
[21:15] <chaospsychex> nautilus?
[21:15] <milamber> !msgbot
[21:15] <StevenR> hellothere007: slow down? you mean it scrolls by too quickly?
[21:15] <guntbert> hellothere007: what do you want to do?
[21:15] <hellothere007> ya
[21:15] <MO_Handes> pipe the output to less or more
[21:15] <hellothere007> lesss
[21:15] <Bisu[Shield]> http://paste.ubuntu.com/666796/ <-- I am trying to reinstall zend server and haviing terrible problems. I need to remove php-5.3-apc-zend-server 5.3.5+b11 but keep getting errors, how do I force remove this package, or how do i fix this problem?
[21:15] <hellothere007> kk
[21:15] <StevenR> hellothere007: use a pager, such as less
[21:15] <hellothere007> thanks guys... i forgot the name of the pipe
[21:15] <hellothere007> :)
[21:16] <StevenR> hellothere007: so, somecommand | less
[21:16] <hellothere007> StevenR: thanks
[21:17] <MO_Handes> یسشز
[21:17] <Bisu[Shield]> anyone?
[21:17] <milamber> !arabic
[21:18] <guntbert> !please | Bisu[Shield]
[21:19] <hellothere007> what does !repeat do here?
[21:19] <MO_Handes> !attitude
[21:19] <kevor> where can I change the settings of the graphical interface on 11.04?
[21:19] <MO_Handes> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:20] <kevor> I mean the fancy stuff, the 3d supported stuff
[21:20] <IdleOne> !ccsm
[21:20] <ActionParsnip> kevor: install compizconfig-settings-manager   then run: ccsm
[21:20] <baldur-> Hi, Just installed
[21:21] <MO_Handes> some ccsm features like Cube Desktop don't work correctly for me in 11.04. anybody got an idea?
[21:22] <kevor> ActionParsnip: thanks
[21:22] <kevor> that seems to be it ;)
[21:23] <kevor> this unity stuff really scared me
[21:23] <kevor> almost cried
[21:23] <MO_Handes> kevor, sure it sucks :(
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> kevor: you don't have to use it
[21:23] <kevor> I'm not saying it sucks
[21:24] <baldur-> Hi, Just installed Ubuntu and cant connect to the internet. Am using wired connection... It finds my network card all good and well. When hardware testing it says "ERROR:root:could not find def gateway info in /proc" and Same exept gateway byrunning route
[21:24] <kevor> but it sure is different, takes some getting used to
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> kevor: that's cool, just filling you in ;)
[21:24] <MO_Handes> ActionParsnip, I beleive they are going to exclude classic gnome interface from 11.10
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> baldur-: can you ping 8.8.8.8
[21:24] <kevor> ActionParsnip: and i'm happy about that.. now just fixing some fancy effects
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> MO_Handes: yes, unity2D replaces it
[21:25] <baldur-> Actipnparsnip: network is unreacheble
[21:25] <ActionParsnip> MO_Handes: i use LXDE so don't ge involved with Unity in any way :)
[21:25] <MO_Handes> ActionParsnip, what is that?!
[21:26] <zagabar> With the default settings in ubuntu server edition, can people over the network find out what users I have on the system?
[21:26] <Bisu[Shield]> is there a way to force remove a package, im using apt-get
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> MO_Handes: you use Gnome for your desktop. I use LXDE
[21:26] <kevor> ActionParsnip: oh crap
[21:26] <kevor> ActionParsnip: now everything is fooked :D
[21:26] <jrib> zagabar: no, unless by "over the network" you mean something like giving them ssh access
[21:26] <MO_Handes> I don't have an idea what is that at all :|
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> MO_Handes: looks like this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/Images/Desktop.png
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> MO_Handes: unity default uses Gnome, Kubuntu uses KDE. I use LXDE
[21:27] <zagabar> jrib: I mean without giving them anything.
[21:27] <jrib> zagabar: then no
[21:27] <MO_Handes> all righty then
[21:28] <zagabar> jrib: I see thanks.
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> MO_Handes: there are LOTS of different desktops you can use
[21:28] <baldur-> ActionParsnip: it says network is unreachable
[21:28] <MO_Handes> I'm not so experienced configuring one
[21:29] <MO_Handes> baldur-, what kind of connection have you got? ethernet or wifi? perhaps?
[21:29] <baldur-> MO_Handes: ethernet... i got the wire plugged in from the router
[21:30] <MO_Handes> try this: lsdev | grep eth
[21:31] <MO_Handes> what is the result?
[21:31] <TeknoCool> hello
[21:31] <MO_Handes> hi there TeknoCool
[21:31] <TeknoCool> ok can any1 help me? :D
[21:31] <MO_Handes> lol
[21:31] <MO_Handes> what is that you are confused about?
[21:31] <baldur-> MO_handes: one min need to install
[21:32] <TeknoCool> i'm trying to install ubuntu trough wubi
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> TeknoCool: without leting us know the issue...no
[21:32] <TeknoCool> keep getting Acess Denied
[21:32] <TeknoCool> error
[21:32] <MO_Handes> lol
[21:32] <TeknoCool> at the end of the installation
[21:32] <MO_Handes> so don't do that :D
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> TeknoCool: did you download the ISO for Ubuntu?
[21:32] <MO_Handes> try using microsoft shitty stuff :D
[21:32] <TeknoCool> i did
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> TeknoCool: did you MD5 test it?
[21:33] <TeknoCool> no
[21:33] <TeknoCool> how do i do that? :D
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> TeknoCool: then how did you know it was complete and error free?
[21:33] <TeknoCool> well i assumed that because i dled both form the official ubuntu site?
[21:33] <CxHxA> hola!!
[21:33] <CxHxA> xD
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> TeknoCool: doesn't matter, it can get damaged in transit. The source is moot
[21:34] <CxHxA> putas!!
[21:34] <MO_Handes> well, is the size okay? don't you get any error extracting it?!
[21:34] <MO_Handes> hi there CxHxA
[21:34] <TeknoCool> i'll try
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | TeknoCool
[21:35] <TeknoCool> but i tryed both with letting the wubi dl ubuntu and a dled ubuntu and i get the same error
[21:35] <IdleOne> TeknoCool: is this error from windows or from wubi?
[21:35] <TeknoCool> wubi
[21:36] <TeknoCool> no errors extracting the iso
[21:36] <wingchunwarrior> edbian: if you're around...thanks for all your help earlier today!
[21:36] <Datz> hi guys. I'm trying to figure out why my ssh connection will disconnect after not actively using it for about 20 min or so. Does anyone have ANY ideas?
[21:36] <Datz> ssh connection to and from ubuntu machine
[21:36] <ikonia> Datz: normal ssh behaviour if timeouts are set on your network
[21:36] <ikonia> Datz: look at -o keepalive
[21:36] <Datz> ikonia: ok. So it is a setting in a config file?
[21:36] <Datz> ah
[21:37] <Datz> ikonia: this is on the server end, correct?
[21:37] <ikonia> Datz: client
[21:37] <Datz> werid
[21:37] <baldur-> MO_handes: new proplem :) http://pastebin.com/3tCs37Yb
[21:37] <Datz> I used putty and it never happened before
[21:37] <ikonia> Datz: putty has a keep alive option
[21:37] <Datz> ikonia: it used to stay connected no matter where, now it diconnects no matter where. I'll try the keep alive though. thanks
[21:37] <ikonia> Datz: in the connection setting
[21:38] <baldur-> MO_Handes: new proplem :) http://pastebin.com/3tCs37Yb
[21:38] <Datz> ikonia: how about in Terminal?
[21:38]  * Datz will look around
[21:38] <ikonia> Datz: ssh -o keepalive as I told you, check it out in the man page
[21:38] <Datz> ok thanks
[21:40] <wingchunwarrior> anyone: which is best and or reccomended regarding stand alone ubuntu 11.4 install..."use as Ext4 journaling file system or Ext2 file system" Any help is much appreicated.
[21:40] <baha> ubottu gave me from about 3 hours a coomand line command to copy programs from an ubuntu laptop to another, anybody knows how? or how to make it give me the command again?
[21:40] <milamber> !clone
[21:40] <IdleOne> wingchunwarrior: ext4 is the default
[21:40] <Datz> ikonia: I'm only seeing TCPKeepAlive, is that the same thing?
[21:40] <baha> milamber, :) hi, how to do it?
[21:40] <ikonia> Datz: correct
[21:41] <TeknoCool> ook
[21:41] <baha> milamber, I installed ubuntu on that laptop and need the programs now
[21:41] <TeknoCool> i tried to checksum the iso file
[21:41] <TeknoCool> i got a shitload of errors
[21:41] <h00k> !language | TeknoCool
[21:41] <TeknoCool> maybe done something wrong?
[21:41] <TeknoCool> sry
[21:41] <Daz___> Hi. I have a server I want to install Ubuntu server 11.04 on. The problem is that the raid-option in the bios seems not supported in ubuntu. Is there a fix to be able to use the raidsystem using Intel® C204 PCH Chipset?
[21:42] <S4nD3r> cairo-dock works together unity?
[21:42] <milamber> baha: "move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate"
[21:42] <wingchunwarrior> idleOne: I read that in the advanced partition setup but the article stated Ext2 as an option as well and just want to know the differance and or the best way.
[21:42] <ikonia> Daz___: don't use fake raid, it's support on linux is terrible
[21:42] <wingchunwarrior> i'm new to linux
[21:42] <Datz> ikonia: so it looks like I do somthing like: ssh -o TCPKeepAlive user@host ?
[21:42] <IdleOne> baha: in a terminal you run the command: aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages . Then you will copy the file ~/my-packages from one computer and put it on the other computer and run the command: sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install
[21:42] <ikonia> Datz: I believe it needs "true" on the end
[21:42] <Daz___> ikonia: but easier to use than md raid or anythingl ike that
[21:42] <ikonia> Datz: =true
[21:42] <ikonia> Datz: no it's not
[21:42] <TeknoCool> so what should i do?
[21:42] <S4nD3r> unity shortcuts  is stopped at screen This should hide, why this do not happens????
[21:43] <baha> thanks IdleOne milamber
[21:43] <IdleOne> wingchunwarrior: I don't know what the differences are I just tend to go with the defaults
[21:43] <ikonia> Datz: sorry, that was for Datz
[21:43] <ikonia> Daz___: even
[21:43] <Datz> haha
[21:43] <wingchunwarrior> idleOne: thanks and i'll run with that. :-)
[21:43] <Richiie> im having problems whit my X
[21:43] <Richiie> when i start ubuntu i get "ubuntu is running in low graphic mode"
[21:44] <Datz> so ssh -o TCPKeepAlive True user@host?
[21:44] <Richiie> how can i fix this my graphic card is ATI
[21:44] <TeknoCool> can anyone help me?
[21:44] <Richiie> i want to revert back to default ubuntu 10.04 drivers
[21:44] <Datz> ikonia: or do I need the =
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> TeknoCool: are you MD5 testing in Windows?
[21:44] <TeknoCool> ye
[21:44] <TeknoCool> i can give you a prtscr of the cmd if it helps?
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> TeknoCool: instal the suggested app the right click the app and send the file to WinMD5sum
[21:45] <Daz___> ikonia: but if I want to use it. .is there a way to get the support for that chipset in ubuntu server?
[21:45] <ikonia> Daz___: I strongly advise you not to waste time on it
[21:45] <TeknoCool> i did it with cmd
[21:45] <tabakhase> is there any difference between the installed system from setup using a desktop and setup using alternate image?
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> TeknoCool: use the gui, its easier
[21:45] <Daz___> ikonia: that wasn't an answer to my question though :)
[21:45] <Richiie> how can i fix "ubuntu is running in low graphic mode" ?
[21:45] <ikonia> Datz: it's just -o tcpkeepalive
[21:45] <Richiie> every time i start
[21:45] <Datz> ikonia: so no true then?
[21:45] <ikonia> Datz: correct
[21:46] <ikonia> Daz___: "no" in that case
[21:46] <baha> milamber, IdleOne: this only gives me a list of installed packeges, isn't there a way to move the programs?
[21:46] <Datz> ok thanks. I'll try it and hope it makes a difference
[21:46] <qin> Is there any neat trick to "save" sshfs mounts on suspend, network drop, change of interface, etc?
[21:46] <milamber> baha: the did you include the ; sudo aptitude install?
[21:46] <Polah> baha: No. You move the list of installed packages to the destination computer and then use that to define all the packages to be installed
[21:46] <Richiie> can someone help me whit "Ubuntu is running in low graphic mode"
[21:47] <Richiie> how can i revert back to open source default ubuntu graphic drivers?
[21:47] <Polah> !repeat | Richiie
[21:47] <IdleOne> milamber: I believe he is trying to save having to download everything again. I am not sure how to accomplish that
[21:47] <Datz> ikonia: I get something like "command-line line 0: Missing yes/no argument" with ssh -o TCPKeepAlive user@host
[21:48] <milamber> IdleOne: dd?
[21:48] <baha> milamber, Polah: but this will make the distention install the programs from the net, I don't want that, I want to avoid wasting time, and don't have that fast internet
[21:48] <IdleOne> milamber: yeah I suppose that would work.
[21:48] <MO_Handes> Polah, see through System>Administration>Additional Drivers see if it suggest you to install any drivers. otherwise google for your ubuntu graphic device driver
[21:48] <milamber> baha: depending on how comfortable in linux you are you can try using dd
[21:48] <qin> Datz: sudo vim /etc/ssh/ssh_config and adjust option.
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> Richiie: what driver did you install to make the error?
[21:48] <baha> what is dd?
[21:48] <baha> milamber,
[21:49] <Polah> MD_Handes: I think you mean Richiie for that? (:
[21:49] <zi> How do I make apt not remove anything whilst installing something?
[21:49] <Datz> qin: that sounds better for the longterm.
[21:49] <MO_Handes> well, I may just made a mistake
[21:49] <baha> milamber, oh man it's a bitwise operation :D
[21:49] <milamber> baha: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dd_%28Unix%29
[21:49] <Datz> ikonia: ssh -o TCPKeepAlive=true user@host was able to make the connection. I assume it took the option but I don't know for sure
[21:49] <milamber> baha: it creates a bit by bit copy, so it will be exactly the same
[21:50] <Polah> baha: Then look in /var/cache/apt for the .debs of installed packages
[21:50] <TeknoCool> 8b1085bed498b82ef1485ef19074c281?
[21:50] <WingChunWarrior> idleOne:
[21:50] <JakeR003> will removing the ubuntu HELP documents break ubuntu ??????
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> !hashes | TeknoCool
[21:50] <IdleOne> Datz: wait 20 mins or so and see if it disconnects :)
[21:51] <MO_Handes> Polah, by the way can we trick the apt-get not to download the packages by copying them in /var/cache/apt manually?!
[21:51] <baha> Polah, I think this is the simplest solution but I couldn't make it work the last time I tried, I'll look for a man page, do you have any idea?
[21:51] <TeknoCool> it matches
[21:51] <IdleOne> WingChunWarrior: ??
[21:51] <WingChunWarrior> idleOne: here's what the article states; "If you are attempting to install Ubuntu alone on the disk, the installer will create the first partition as a primary partition. And that first partition, following the recommendation made earlier, should be mounted at /boot. The default file system for /boot on Ubuntu is ext2. You can use that, or ext4, the default journaling file system on Ubuntu
[21:51] <WingChunWarrior> 11.04"
[21:51] <Polah> MO_Handes: I wouldn't know, but you can just install from .debs by either running them or there's a command line utility for it but I can't rcall its name
[21:52] <TeknoCool> both hashes match
[21:52] <beek> apt
[21:52] <IdleOne> WingChunWarrior: ok, go with the default when you aren't sure is my motto
[21:52] <MO_Handes> Polah, how can I have the .debs which apt-get automatically downloads and installs?
[21:52] <zi> If I have two versions of the same pkg in my sources, then how do I make it choose one or the other?
[21:52] <qin> Polah: dpkg -i *.deb
[21:53] <TeknoCool> Action both hashes match
[21:53] <WingChunWarrior> idleOne: i just want to make sure i complete this install the best and most efficient way.
[21:53] <Polah> MO_Handes, use apt-get download <packages> or install them and take them from /var/cache/apt
[21:53] <MO_Handes> ty
[21:53] <Polah> qin: Thanks, but isnt' there something named along the lines of ideb that does it too?
[21:53] <qin> MO_Handes: apt-get install -d (--download-onlt)
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> TeknoCool: ok in future, remember to test the file FIRST
[21:54] <WingChunWarrior> idleOne:
[21:54] <Richiie> ActionParsnip: i followed this guide now
[21:54] <Polah> WingChunWarrior: The main difference would be that ext2 does not have a journal and ext4 does. Hence, ext4 logs changes and may be easier to recover after a crash
[21:54] <Richiie> ActionParsnip: http://www.brunolinux.com/06-Fine_Tuning_Your_System/Configure_X.html
[21:54] <TeknoCool> mkay
[21:54] <TeknoCool> what shall i do next?
[21:54] <Richiie> it turned ot to "work" but i wanna see what drivers im using
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> TeknoCool: ok if you install daemontools or magicdisk, you can mount the ISO and install from there. If you use Windows 7, I personally recommend you resize your NTFS partition in Windows then install Ubuntu to the new free space
[21:55] <TeknoCool> can i do that w/o formating the drive?
[21:55] <ozten> Howdy! I think I'm "doing it wrong".
[21:55] <ozten> I have a few custom installs of apps that I've compiled
[21:56] <ozten> during minor upgrades, my linker or libc or something freaks out
[21:56] <dr_willis> TeknoCool,  you format filesystms.. and you repartiton drives to make new partitions you put filesystems on. :)
[21:56] <Richiie> ActionParsnip: i followed this guide
[21:56] <IdleOne> WingChunWarrior: the best and most efficient way to install Ubuntu is to go with the defaults. I am not sure how else to tell you this.
[21:56] <WingChunWarrior> Polah: thanks...what's your reccomendation then? other than the logs, is one better or faster, etc. than the other?
[21:56] <dr_willis> TeknoCool,  You can resize your partitions/filesystems. to make room for new ones.. depending on your setup.
[21:56] <ozten> Example: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1301506
[21:56] <Richiie> ActionParsnip: http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.cchtml.com%2Findex.php%2FMain_Page&h=SAQAdQrn8
[21:56] <TeknoCool> right now i have just 1 partition
[21:57] <Richiie> ActionParsnip: the Propierity drivers there the SWAT-X ppa
[21:57] <dr_willis> TeknoCool,  with windows on new machines.. ive rarely seem them do just 1 partition..
[21:57] <qin> Polah: gdebi ?
[21:57] <ozten> If I remove my libldap_r.so and liblber-2.4.so.2.5.6, etc
[21:57] <Polah> WingChunWarrior: I'd guess ext4 would be better, since it is a later version (ext2 came out a long time before ext4) and I imagine would be improved.
[21:57] <MO_Handes> lol ! just joined #windows insulting microsoft. that's funny :))
[21:57] <ozten> then my apps start working again.
[21:57] <Polah> qin: That's the one, thanks
[21:57] <baldur-> MO_Handes: new proplem :) http://pastebin.com/3tCs37Yb
[21:57] <WingChunWarrior> Polah: thank you. :-)
[21:57] <TeknoCool> this laptop came w/o any os
[21:57] <TeknoCool> and w/o drivers
[21:57] <ozten> How can I avoid this problem? I've fixed it twice after two upgrades
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> Richiie: just rename the xorg.conf file and reboot, should be ok
[21:58] <dr_willis> TeknoCool,  so you just want linux on it? or whats the current setup?
[21:58] <qin> MO_Handes: No, that's silly.
[21:58] <Richiie> ActionParsnip: well it "works" now
[21:58] <TeknoCool> i have windows 7 on it right now but i want to run linux also
[21:58] <Richiie> ActionParsnip: but if i run glxinfo | grep vga / VGA
[21:58] <Richiie> i get no output
[21:58] <Richiie> neither if i look into "display manager" refresh rate 0
[21:58] <Richiie> wtf? what drivers am i using then ?
[21:58] <dr_willis> TeknoCool,  i suggest resizeing the windows partitions, and installing linux to its own partition then.  Its Very likely windows 7 made 2 partitions when it installed.
[21:59] <Richiie> i followed this and now my X is working again but still what drivers am i using ?
[21:59] <TeknoCool> nope it didn't
[21:59] <TeknoCool> i have just E
[21:59] <Richiie> http://www.brunolinux.com/06-Fine_Tuning_Your_System/Configure_X.html
[21:59] <dr_willis> TeknoCool,  you just need to make enough 'unallocated' space and be sure to not have 4 primary partitins made.. then  ubuntu can partion/install to the unallocated space automatically
[21:59] <usr13> TeknoCool: You mean C:\ ?
[21:59] <dr_willis> TeknoCool,  just because you have E: dosent mean theres not Other partitons on the disk...
[21:59] <TeknoCool> no
[21:59] <TeknoCool> it's e
[21:59] <dr_willis> TeknoCool,  check with the disk manager tool in windows.
[22:00] <usr13> TeknoCool: Just shrink it down and leave free space for Linux.
[22:00] <dr_willis> silly windows :) making E: and skiping c: :)
[22:00] <javagreek> hello everyone. i am trying to format a external usb hdd to boot a mac os on my imac g5. i see that ubuntu has tools to manipulate hfs partitions and disk utility can create guid partition table. i am trying to see if anyone has experience doing this or can guide me.
[22:00] <TeknoCool> yes
[22:00] <dr_willis> must of had some usb stuff plugged in.
[22:00] <TeknoCool> it marked my memory card slot as c
[22:00] <dr_willis> TeknoCool,  ive seen some apps in windows crashbadly because of that  quirk. :)
[22:01] <Richiie> what drivers am  i i using if i follow this? http://www.brunolinux.com/06-Fine_Tuning_Your_System/Configure_X.html
[22:01] <TeknoCool> i had some serious issue in xp
[22:01] <TeknoCool> it wouldn't even install drivers
[22:01] <TeknoCool> had to put a memory card in so it would
[22:01] <usr13> TeknoCool: Yea, MS Windows partition and drive naming system is a bit clunky
[22:02] <TeknoCool> no windows no gates
[22:02] <TeknoCool> the best
[22:02] <javagreek> true that
[22:02] <usr13> ThomasB2k: But it doesn't matter what it's called, it is the first partition, so just shrink it down and leave space for Linux.
[22:02] <dr_willis> TeknoCool,  exactly.  but back to Ubuntu/linux.. resize your windows partition  You can do it from within windows7, leave a few dozen gb unallocated at the end..  and let the ubuntu installe rdo the rest.
[22:02] <usr13> TeknoCool: But it doesn't matter what it's called, it is the first partition, so just shrink it down and leave space for Linux.
[22:02] <TeknoCool> uhm is there a tool or should i use cmd?
[22:03] <dr_willis> TeknoCool,  windows 7 has tools for disk management..
[22:03] <dr_willis> or the installer can do it.. but i find win7 faster at resizeing its own NTFS then the ubuntu tools.
[22:03] <TeknoCool> yes but i can't find it lmao
[22:04] <dr_willis> under the manage menu item on the computer icon somewhere...
[22:04] <javagreek> i was gonna say. nothing that gparted couldnt handle.
[22:04] <dr_willis> i found win7 resized a ntfs like 10x faster then gparted did..
[22:04] <s_o_o_s> how can i undo a ridiculous mv command i just made in the terminal o_o
[22:04] <dr_willis> but it prob. depends on a lot of things...
[22:05] <milamber> bug 1 :)
[22:05] <TeknoCool> mkay
[22:05] <dr_willis> byeall bbl
[22:05] <ThomasB2k> usr13: I haven't said anything to you <_<
[22:06] <javagreek> trying to see if anyone here has experience, preparing a disk for mac os. using ubuntu.
[22:06] <TeknoCool> wtf
[22:07] <usr13> ThomasB2k: Wrong NIC
[22:07] <ozten> Would my question be better in another channel? Sorry I'm clueless
[22:07] <TeknoCool> it froze after querying for available shrink space xD
[22:07] <usr13> TeknoCool: It is a good idea to run defrag before shrinking partition size.
[22:08] <TeknoCool> oh good to know xD
[22:08] <Hackwar> hi folks, I'm trying to install the package "swftools" on ubuntu server 10.04, but i get an error in return, that the package is not available. Anybody know what I can do?
[22:08] <usr13> TeknoCool:  May just need to give it some time.
[22:08] <kingofswords> hi ive just updated wine and now graphics look horrible..is it possible to go back to previous version?
[22:09] <TeknoCool> oh a defrag was allready running
[22:09] <TeknoCool> it's 55% nao
[22:09] <s_o_o_s> nvrmind, luckily ubuntu is not as stupid as me
[22:09] <javagreek> Hackwar: install from source. or backports repo.
[22:09] <Hackwar> ok
[22:09] <usr13> Hackwar: sudo apt-get install swiftools
[22:09] <Hackwar> usr13: that doesn't work
[22:10] <Hackwar> will install from source then.
[22:10] <usr13> Hackwar: Are you on 11.04 ?
[22:10] <javagreek> check into backports before you do that.
[22:10] <Hackwar> 10.04
[22:10] <Hackwar> ok
[22:10] <javagreek> cuz a lot of times when a package is depreciated, some backport repo will still let you install the package.
[22:11] <TeknoCool> ok this is how much shrink space i have in mb 9220
[22:12] <TeknoCool> is that enough for linux?
[22:12] <javagreek> 9220megs will be enough till you start installing software. plus i always try and keep atleast 1.5 to 2 gigs free space for my / partition.
[22:13] <usr13> TeknoCool: Just barely
[22:13] <javagreek> also consider space for  swap.
[22:13] <addisonj> okay, so, I have two older ati x1300  cards (they don't support fglrx) and I have two monitors to drive. I can't get the other monitor detected, anyone have any hints?
[22:13] <Hackwar> ok, backport does not provide that package
[22:13] <TeknoCool> if i clean up my hard drive i will make more space i guess
[22:13] <TeknoCool> or it doesn't work that way? xD
[22:13] <javagreek> then you outa luck on the easy way out partner. compile from sources.
[22:13] <Richiie> alright i solved it
[22:14] <usr13> TeknoCool: TeknoCool How big is it?
[22:14] <Richiie> Awesome.. so annoying problem whit ATI cards and Linux
[22:14] <Richiie> but i solved it :D
[22:14] <TeknoCool> 298 gb
[22:14] <TeknoCool> so i'm guessing another 2 unpartitioned or just floating
[22:14] <usr13> TeknoCool: And you only have 9G for Linux ?
[22:15] <usr13> TeknoCool: Are you sure?
[22:15] <javagreek> yah you should clear up the clutter and atleast spare 20gigs for linux.
[22:15] <TeknoCool> my disks are full of stuff
[22:15] <TeknoCool> hopefully it will let me shrink the drive further afterwards
[22:16] <usr13> TeknoCool: Wow. You have a lot of data!   You should do some house cleaning and then run defrag again.
[22:16] <rhin0> will 12.10 (or next version) still have classic desktop?  will 12.04 have classic desktop?
[22:16] <usr13> TeknoCool: You can install on 9G but it will be pretty full.
[22:17] <javagreek> also consider the amount of tmp garbage that windows accumulates over time. try the disk clean up utility in windows.
[22:17] <IdleOne> rhin0: Classic desktop is being replaced with Unity 2D
[22:18] <usr13> TeknoCool: And yes, you can shrink MS Windows and take some more space up with Linux after the install, but it's probably better to do it now.
[22:18] <EPAstor> IdleOne: Then I really hope Unity improves by 11.10.
[22:19] <rhin0> ok I have an inspiron m5010 -- running 11.04 with desktop effects -- after a while (days) cursor freezes up -- system 0k but cursor frozen after you log in (not on the login screen) -- at the moment I am going to go back to 10.04 and keep any effects off -- anyone any ideas?  IdleOne or anyone
[22:19] <rhin0> inspiron m5010 = dell laptop
[22:20] <javagreek> does it freeze at random boots or everytime.
[22:21] <WingChunWarrior> anyone: dumb question...i know, however, what partition, i.e., / or /home, etc. should ubuntu 11.04 be installed to? i've already set up the reccomended default partitions then clicked install. i'm worried because i didn't specify which location to do so. i believe it's being installed on the /dev/sda1
[22:21] <rhin0> javagreek: when using the system -- cursor stops - thats it .... not every time - after a few days
[22:22]  * rhin0 reckons will be up all night re-installing
[22:23] <Aygoustos> akra tou tafou siopi ston kalpo vasilevei
[22:24] <kingofswords> is it possible to mount an iso from a windows partition and install/run onto ubuntu partition?
[22:24] <baldur-> Anyone that can point me towards a good FTP server for Ubuntu
[22:24] <baldur-> ?
[22:24] <TeknoCool> i have 114gb of free space and it still won't let me shrink more than 9220
[22:24] <ityler15> i need help with a permanent bcm43xx fix
[22:24] <addisonj>  /j #xorg
[22:24] <addisonj> oops
[22:24] <rhin0> you want ot run windows in ubuntu kingofswords?  -- virtualbox
[22:25] <kingofswords> rhin0, no
[22:25] <wildbat1> kingofswords: unless you mean to run in virtual machine, otherwise no.
[22:25] <kingofswords> i have .iso image on windows...want to use gmount for iso and then install the cd onto ubuntu
[22:25] <WingChunWarrior> which directory should ubuntu 11.04 be installed?
[22:26] <fr500> kingofswords: you can't run windows from ubuntu
[22:26] <fr500> you can run windows inside a virtual machine inside ubuntu as rhin0 said
[22:26] <usr13> TeknoCool: defrag
[22:26] <kingofswords> fr500 no but i can read ntfs file from ubuntu
[22:26] <fr500> that is possible
[22:26] <fr500> you can mount an ntfs partition
[22:27] <hellothere007> any secure shredding tools in ubuntu or linux in general?
[22:27] <fr500> but you can't run windows within ubuntu
[22:27] <fr500> hellothere007: I use DD
[22:27] <fr500> but to erase entire drives not files so not likely what you looking for
[22:27] <hellothere007> fr500: googling it right now... thanks!
[22:27] <wildbat1> hellothere007: shred
[22:27] <kingofswords> fr500 no my file is on windows partiton but it is an iso....i want to use ubuntu to mount and install onto ubuntu partition
[22:27] <hellothere007> wildbat1: is shred already built in?
[22:28] <TeknoCool> can you play .exe games on ubuntu?
[22:28] <kingofswords> TeknoCool, wine
[22:28] <wildbat1> hellothere007: i guess so .
[22:28] <kingofswords> fr500 i dont want to run windows in ubuntu
[22:29] <TeknoCool> what about other .exe aplications? can wine cover let's say adobe after effects or photoshop?
[22:29] <overclucker> TeknoCool: check http://appdb.winehq.org/ before trying
[22:29] <Brixius> kingofswords: mount the ntfs partition that your iso is in, then mount the iso
[22:29] <kingofswords> the file is on windows partition but i can copy over to ext3 as ive run out of space
[22:29] <wildbat1> kingofswords: ok ~ you mean there is a ISO for ubuntu in a NTFS partition and you wanna loopmount it and install the ISO ~ yes you caan do that.
[22:29] <usr13> TeknoCool: You don't need photoshop, you can use gimp.  And what is "after effects"?
[22:29] <kingofswords> Brixius,  yeh ive done this but gmount isnt mounting it
[22:30] <hellothere007> fr500: how do u use dd to destroy an entire hd?
[22:30] <TeknoCool> adobe after effects is a powerful animation
[22:30] <wildbat1> kingofswords: use Archive mounter or mount -o loop
[22:30] <kingofswords> wildbat1, yes thats it exactly...so must be different reason its not loop mounting
[22:30] <Brixius> hellothere007: dd -if=/dev/zero -of=/dev/hdx
[22:30] <fr500> hellothere007: well use caution, I do dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda for instance and I do it 2 or 3 times
[22:30] <hellothere007> Brixius: thanks
[22:30] <hellothere007> fr500: thanks
[22:30] <TeknoCool> it's similiar to sony vegas
[22:31] <usr13> TeknoCool: You will find that most all the sfuff you did in MS Windows, you'll be able to do with OpenSource apps in Linux.  So don't worry too much.
[22:31] <TeknoCool> well i'm keeping win just in case :D
[22:32] <Brixius> TeknoCool: I don't think you will be able to run AE in wine, although I could be wrong.
[22:32] <Brixius> AE has got some huge requirements.
[22:32] <usr13> TeknoCool: Yea, sure, keep MS Windows, but resize the drive and get 40 or 50G for Linux, (that much or more, because that's a pretty big drive you have).
[22:32] <wildbat1> kingofswords: may be pastebin you commandline or screenshot so ppl in here can see and help.
[22:32] <TeknoCool> i'm defragmenting right now
[22:33] <kingofswords> ok
[22:33] <TeknoCool> can i do this with open source appliaction? :p http://www.freeimagehosting.net/newuploads/dd27b.gif
[22:33] <usr13> TeknoCool: Unless you are a gamer and are really attached to some of the MS Windows only games, you'll probably find little use for MS Windows after installing Ubuntu.
[22:34] <kingofswords> wildbat1, http://pastebin.com/gNZpdznJ
[22:34] <kingofswords> this is error msg i get
[22:35] <usr13> TeknoCool: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Simple_Animations/
[22:35] <Brixius> TeknoCool: I'm thinking GIMP may be able to do it, but it's going to be alot more work then AE was to do it.
[22:35] <TeknoCool> oh believe me AE was no piece of pie
[22:35] <TeknoCool> i followed a tut on that one though
[22:36] <Brixius> TeknoCool: ya I followed a tut on creating the HP intro screens(dark clouds with lightning text)
[22:36] <usr13> TeknoCool: High end graphics manipulations packages are complicated, gimp is no exception.
[22:36] <Brixius> Alot of work in AE as well.
[22:36] <Brixius> er HP=Harry Potter
[22:37] <TeknoCool> ae is more movie orientated
[22:37] <TeknoCool> the actuall tut was making a burnout/desintegrate effect
[22:38] <vice_> test
[22:38] <hylian> does nano have a time/date stamp?
[22:38] <hylian> vice_, test right back at ya :)
[22:38] <vice_> great! :D
[22:39] <yagnesh> test
[22:39] <hylian> yagnesh, test back at you too. :)
[22:39] <yagnesh> hylian thanks, that was my first msg on irc
[22:40] <TeknoCool> defrag is gonna take a while...
[22:40] <chas11man> I'm looking for some help with installing office 2010 and wine
[22:40] <hylian> was the channel down?
[22:41] <hylian> chas11man, what's you question
[22:41] <TeknoCool> another stupid question, how does ubuntu handle hardware drivers? such as wireless?
[22:41] <chas11man> whenevever I open the exe file I get a popup that says "The files required to set up Microsoft Office Home and Student 2010 cannot be loaded. Check your Internet connection, and then try again."
[22:41] <hylian> TeknoCool, do you mean, how are they installed?
[22:41] <Danskmand> Howdy :-) - I got a broken sudoers file. So I want to boot into recovery. I tried it many times, but the server is "somewhere else" and I am connected through the vmware-client to the console of the server. This is so slow so when I, after reboot of the server, can connect to the server again, its all too late......How can I boot into recovery without having to press the shift key and without being a "sudo" er ?
[22:41] <TeknoCool> that i guess
[22:42] <usr13> TeknoCool: http://www.kdenlive.org/
[22:42] <cromag>  /wii Danskmand
[22:42] <cromag> ..
[22:42] <TeknoCool> that's good
[22:43] <usr13> TeknoCool: Yes, defrag takes a while, and you will be glad to know that your Linux partitions will not need defrag run on them.
[22:43] <hylian> TeknoCool, well, what device are you referring of specifically, because some network cards need whats called ndiswrapper.
[22:43] <chas11man> hylian: any idea? I know my internet is working fine
[22:43] <TeknoCool> i have absolutley no idea
[22:43] <TeknoCool> i had hard time getting the drivers for this laptop for windows from toshiba's official site
[22:43] <TeknoCool> so
[22:43] <cromag> Danskmand: it could maybe be possible to make the box boot into bios - exit the bios and go to recovery from there ?
[22:44] <hylian> chas11man, wine does have a attachment called wine gecko that comes with internet functionality, but I am afraid i have never run into that problem, sorry, might have to ask someone more knowledgeable with that problem, or try to google it.
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> Danskmand: boot to the live CD in vmware with the drive set as the system drive and you can unstick the file. I suggest you DON'T mess with that file
[22:44] <TeknoCool> i didn't get any drivers or os in the box
[22:44] <usr13> TeknoCool: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eHEAfNFJ0k
[22:44] <hylian> TeknoCool, well, most drivers you will need for the laptop will actually come with ubuntu. things like some network cards and graphics drivers you will have to add once it is installed.
[22:45] <chas11man> does anyone know why office 2010 is saying  "The files required to set up Microsoft Office Home and Student 2010 cannot be loaded. Check your Internet connection, and then try again."? when I open the exe file?
[22:45] <scorchgeek> so, banshee just crashed while playing music, and now it won't start up anymore, it gives this traceback: http://paste.ubuntu.com/666845/
[22:45] <quem> 10.04 is driving me fucking nuts. I've been running out of ram several times a day ever since i upgraded.
[22:45] <quem> *11.04
[22:45] <scorchgeek> anyone know what might be causing that?
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> scorchgeek: is it still running?
[22:46] <scorchgeek> ActionParsnip: nope
[22:46] <TeknoCool> yes most drivers that you would need for the laptop should actually come with windows on the other hand...
[22:46] <scorchgeek> it looks like the media database might be damaged, looking through it again
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> scorchgeek: if it is you'll see it in the output of:  ps -ef | grep bans
[22:46] <hylian> bye all, dinner is awaiting me!
[22:46] <TeknoCool> i can't believe toshiba is so careless
[22:46] <TeknoCool> rly
[22:46] <scorchgeek> ActionParsnip: nope, just the grep I ran shows up
[22:46] <TeknoCool> it's insulting to the whole "emerging emea region"
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> scorchgeek: if you open an audio file with it, is the output different?
[22:47] <TeknoCool> usr13> cool!
[22:47] <scorchgeek> ActionParsnip: nope, exactly the same
[22:48] <scorchgeek> Caught an exception - Hyena.Data.Sqlite.SqliteException: Sqlite error 11: database disk image is malformed (SQL: SELECT COUNT(*), SUM(Cor
[22:48] <[THC]AcidRain> -rw-rw-rw- 1 acidrain acidrain 0 2011-08-15 17:46 test.txt       -is this not the proper permissions for any user to read/write to a file?
[22:48] <[THC]AcidRain> still concerning my ftp server that i am halfway getting to work
[22:48] <scorchgeek> [THC]AcidRain: that is correct, unless users need to execute something
[22:49] <scorchgeek> or, for directories, to list their contents
[22:49] <[THC]AcidRain> scorchgeek, so i shouldnt have a problem at all with downloading
[22:49] <scorchgeek> I shouldn't think the permissions would be causing it, no
[22:49] <[THC]AcidRain> drwxr-xrwx 2 acidrain acidrain 4096 2011-08-15 17:46 FTP    -and this is correct?
[22:49] <[THC]AcidRain> scorchgeek, im pretty sure its the permissions man...
[22:49] <[THC]AcidRain> ive been fighting this issue for 3 days now
[22:50] <scorchgeek> [THC]AcidRain: I'm not sure why you don't have rwx on the group
[22:50] <[THC]AcidRain> i just now got it to where i could login
[22:50] <Danskmand> ActionParsnip: You mean I shouldnt mess with the sudoers file ?
[22:50] <scorchgeek> but that shouldn't affect your ability to read it
[22:50] <scorchgeek> [THC]AcidRain: so what exactly is the problem anyway?
[22:51] <[THC]AcidRain> scorchgeek, well at first it wouldnt allow me to login because of file permissions set to the home dir. after i formatted a partition on the drive, it now allows me to login. but now i cant download files
[22:51] <poikges> hi,all
[22:51] <poikges> libav and ffmpeg
[22:51] <poikges> Inherit？
[22:51] <poikges> Hostility？
[22:51] <poikges> thank you!
[22:51] <FloodBot1> poikges: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:51] <[THC]AcidRain> and i seem to be facing the issue once more, where even using sudo... i cant change file permissions
[22:52] <scorchgeek> [THC]AcidRain: on your local computer you mean?
[22:52] <[THC]AcidRain> its on my local comp. but im talking about an external drive
[22:53] <Brixius> [THC]AcidRain: what format is the External drive in? ntfs? fat?
[22:53] <scorchgeek> [THC]AcidRain: urgh, is the drive formatted with ntfs?
[22:53] <[THC]AcidRain> no. its currently formatted with ext3
[22:53] <scorchgeek> hmm
[22:53] <[THC]AcidRain> and turns out now.. i CAN change file permissions. i just discovered this.
[22:53] <TeknoCool> also thank y'all for your help, you guys are amazing ^^
[22:53] <scorchgeek> at least that's good
[22:53] <[THC]AcidRain> drwxrwxr-x 2 acidrain acidrain 4096 2011-08-15 17:46 FTP
[22:54] <scorchgeek> ActionParsnip: I fixed it, see http://banshee.fm/support/faq/
[22:54] <scorchgeek> shame on me for not googling the problem first
[22:55] <scorchgeek> [THC]AcidRain: what's happening now?
[22:55] <[THC]AcidRain> scorchgeek, i went ahead and set all files with 777 permissions. this will determine if the issue rly is permission related
[22:55] <[THC]AcidRain> Error:	Failed to open "/test.txt" for writing - this is the error im getting using filezilla
[22:55] <[THC]AcidRain> that is with 777 permissions
[22:55] <[THC]AcidRain> but im not trying to write... i just want to download
[22:56] <[THC]AcidRain> or is some type of write function carried out when downloading?
[22:56] <Gskellig> how much space does ubuntu 11.04 take up on a complete install?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> scorchgeek: nice, glad you got the gold. I don't use banshee personally
[22:56] <scorchgeek> [THC]AcidRain: hmm, it shouldn't
[22:56] <Gskellig> also, what kind of support does ubuntu have for TRIM and SSDs in general?
[22:56] <ityler15> bcm43xx help?
[22:56] <quem> sounds very familiar, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1750000
[22:56] <scorchgeek> [THC]AcidRain: have you tried using the command line ftp to make sure filezilla isn't messing up? it's a long shot, but...
[22:56] <TeknoCool> does the whole ubuntu installation go on 1 drive?
[22:57] <Gskellig> last but not least, does anybody have experience with bumblebee? the hybrid linux driver for ubuntu?
[22:57] <[THC]AcidRain> http://pastebin.com/JzP2kZny
[22:57] <[THC]AcidRain> scorchgeek, ill try that now actually
[22:57] <scorchgeek> [THC]AcidRain: oh, I think I figured it out
[22:57] <[THC]AcidRain> using terminal ftp. 230 Anonymous access granted, restrictions apply
[22:57] <scorchgeek> where are you trying to download it to? looks to me like the Error: is on your *local* system
[22:57] <Brixius> Ya gotta love it when you look at someones pc(Windows) and they have 6 toolbars installed in IE then have the gull to complain that the computer's slow...
[22:57] <scorchgeek> you're trying to download to the root of the FS by mistake
[22:58] <[THC]AcidRain> im not logging in as anonymous...
[22:58] <[THC]AcidRain> eh... what line does that happen on?
[22:58] <scorchgeek> 16, 19, and 22
[22:58] <scorchgeek> (I
[22:58] <scorchgeek> *(I could be wrong, but that's what it looks like)
[22:59] <[THC]AcidRain> oh you mean on my local comp?
[22:59] <scorchgeek> [THC]AcidRain: that's what I'm thinking
[22:59] <scorchgeek> check what local directory you're in
[22:59] <[THC]AcidRain> let me find the settings. ill set it to just download to desktop
[22:59] <scorchgeek> ...why not just change the location of one of the panes?
[23:00] <[THC]AcidRain> what do you mean?
[23:00] <scorchgeek> well, in filezilla you drag a file from the server pane to the local one right?
[23:00] <[THC]AcidRain> this ftp server is mounted at /media/Server/FTP
[23:00] <[THC]AcidRain> oh yea you could do it like that. i was just double clicking ;) hang on
[23:01] <[THC]AcidRain> scorchgeek, yep. you absolutely right dude :/ epic fail on my part
[23:01] <scorchgeek> haha, been there, done that
[23:01] <[THC]AcidRain> lol
[23:01] <scorchgeek> one time I spent 3 hours troubleshooting why I couldn't connect to my server via SSH, then noticed that openssh-server wasn't installed
[23:01] <[THC]AcidRain> scorchgeek, so just to double check now. for files that i do NOT want anyone to modify. permissions should be 755. right?
[23:02] <scorchgeek> [THC]AcidRain: yep
[23:02] <[THC]AcidRain> scorchgeek, lol. thats rly funny dude. i just did something like that the other day. i think it was with postfix. spent a good hr wondering why i couldnt connect then realized that i never even installed >_>
[23:02] <Richiie> i just think that Unity is crap
[23:02] <[THC]AcidRain> i just reformatted so... lol
[23:03] <Richiie> hopefully Gnome 3 will be awesome
[23:03] <Richiie> and implemented in Ubuntu 12.04
[23:03] <scorchgeek> Richiie: totally agree, I used unity for 5 minutes and gave up
[23:03] <[THC]AcidRain> Richiie, unity is indeed the worse thing to come from the human race
[23:03] <Richiie> scorchgeek: i mean why does the ubuntu team aim to deliver so new and poor stuff?
[23:03] <Richiie> why change the whole Shell interface
[23:04] <Richiie> i mean i like gnome, why not make gnome 3 better and implement it in a standalone Ubuntu install
[23:04] <scorchgeek> yeah, have you been to the website since they changed to unity? they're gushing all over how this is the best new interface and really easy to use and stuff
[23:04] <Richiie> so ppl can choose ubuntu 12.04 Unity or Ubuntu 12.04 Gnome3
[23:04] <scorchgeek> and it's like, ugh
[23:04] <[THC]AcidRain> scorchgeek, didnt even last that long man. i couldnt find the "file" menu option on a window. so i rage quit and came back like 30min later and switched to classic
[23:04] <Richiie> i think gnome 2 is awesome, easy to use, fast flexible
[23:05] <[THC]AcidRain> Richiie, agreed
[23:05] <trankent> fedora 15 crash all time can u help
[23:05] <Richiie> its just the most normal best working Desktop manager out there
[23:05] <Richiie> hopefully Gnome 3 will be better
[23:05] <bazhang> !ot | [THC]AcidRain
[23:05] <scorchgeek> sorry :)
[23:05] <[THC]AcidRain> Richiie, plz take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:05] <scorchgeek> just complaining I guess
[23:05] <Richiie> [THC]AcidRain: alright just thinking :P
[23:07] <[THC]AcidRain> whats up with the update manager in ubuntu
[23:07] <[THC]AcidRain> it seems like it goes through alot more steps in 11 then it did in 9.04
[23:07] <wolFmitchell> Hey
[23:07] <[THC]AcidRain> wolFmitchell, hey
[23:07] <zalg> anyone used ibm bladecenters >H before?
[23:07] <html> how do i get a card reader for ubuntu 10.10 remix, atom  acer aspire one d255e
[23:08] <rns> anyone know if this monitor will work with ubuntu? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/HP+-+HP+27%22+HD+LED+Widescreen+Monitor/1791134.p?id=1218291942248&skuId=1791134
[23:08] <wolFmitchell> I want to get ubuntu off a non-internet connected Ubuntu machine to put windows on?
[23:08] <usr13> html: What?
[23:08] <[THC]AcidRain> rns, i was unaware that ubuntu has monitor restrictions?
[23:08] <[THC]AcidRain> could you reword your question
[23:09] <html> wolFmitchell,  WHAT?? that doesnt make sence
[23:09] <rns> [THC]AcidRain, well I wasn't sure if there was any hardware that doesn't work
[23:09] <usr13> wolFmitchell: You want to install MS Windows on a machine that now has Ubuntu on it?  Is that your issue?
[23:09] <[THC]AcidRain> rns, nah ubuntu will pretty much handle anything thrown at it. almost.. i run a 37" flatscreen hd led
[23:09] <KittyGirl> How do i burn a Ubuntu disc?
[23:09] <[THC]AcidRain> works great for me
[23:09] <KittyGirl> Everytime i burn ubuntu discs they don't work.
[23:10] <wolFmitchell> Usr-Yes...
[23:10] <[THC]AcidRain> KittyGirl, what is happening when you try to boot from it?
[23:10] <usr13> KittyGirl: There are instrucitons on ubuntu.com
[23:10] <JetJagurXP> Hello Ubuntu channel
[23:10] <KittyGirl> I'm no n00b or anything but i only have one disc.
[23:10] <KittyGirl> usr13: link?
[23:10] <quem> hm, is it possible to downgrade to a previous release yet?
[23:10]  * quem wants back to 10.10
[23:10] <[THC]AcidRain> KittyGirl, your comp boots up normally and skips the disk?
[23:10] <usr13> ubuntu.com
[23:10] <JetJagurXP> I have a question about setting up Ubuntu as a Gateway....
[23:10] <KittyGirl> [THC]AcidRain: I/O errors on 10 desktops al different models.
[23:11] <KittyGirl> *all
[23:11] <[THC]AcidRain> hmmm, KittyGirl i cant help you with that. sorry
[23:11] <usr13> !ics | JetJagurXP
[23:11] <KittyGirl> Other distros boot fine.
[23:11] <[THC]AcidRain> KittyGirl, what version are you trying to install?
[23:12] <KittyGirl> [THC]AcidRain: The latest.
[23:12] <KittyGirl> obviously.
[23:12] <[THC]AcidRain> KittyGirl, im rly not sure. sounds like you know you are doing it right. i just did 11.04 the other day. no issues
[23:12] <JetJagurXP> Thanks to who ever answered my question...
[23:13] <KittyGirl> [THC]AcidRain: There isn't an 11.04
[23:13] <ahrikun> So, can i ask a quick question?
[23:13] <KittyGirl> On the website it says 10.04 is the latest.
[23:13] <[THC]AcidRain> ahrikun, plz read the guidelines. dont ask to ask a question. just ask
[23:13] <ahrikun> oh
[23:13] <ahrikun> sorry
[23:13] <[THC]AcidRain> KittyGirl, i had alot of issues with 10.04 myself. might as well install 11.04. its worth it
[23:13] <szal> KittyGirl: (1) after download, check checksums (MD5, SHA1 and/or SHA256) -> download the respective checksums file and run e.g. 'md5sum -c checksumfilename' (same syntax for sha1sum and sha256sum)..  (2) set CD burning application to verifying the data after burning..  (3) when booting the CD, run the self-test option first
[23:13] <usr13> KittyGirl: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[23:14] <ahrikun> Anyways, when choosing a defalut application to open a file or link or somthing, where are the applications located within the fliesystem in natty narwall
[23:14] <KittyGirl> usr13: I've been there.
[23:14] <KittyGirl> I'm using PowerISO
[23:14] <html> i neeed a app to read my flash media
[23:14] <KittyGirl> to burn the disc.
[23:14] <[THC]AcidRain> KittyGirl, the link you posted said 11.04 was latest...
[23:14] <usr13> KittyGirl: Then you should see that you can download 11.04 from that URL
[23:14] <KittyGirl> usr13: I'm on a Windows 2000 machine with 8 bit display.
[23:14] <KittyGirl> Do you know how hard it is to browse the web?
[23:14] <KittyGirl> My eyes are burning.
[23:14] <usr13> KittyGirl: Pretty old machine?
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> html: nautilus will read usb / sd card style storage
[23:15] <ahrikun> Any one know what i'm talking about
[23:15] <KittyGirl> usr13: Yes but it will install ubuntu.
[23:15] <[THC]AcidRain> KittyGirl, i dont think you can even install linux with an 8bit display
[23:15] <KittyGirl> [THC]AcidRain: It's actually a 32bit display without the drivers.
[23:15] <[THC]AcidRain> ahrikun, /etc/ i believe
[23:15] <ahrikun> ok
[23:15] <ahrikun> thanks
[23:15] <KittyGirl> I accidentally fucked them up.
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> KittyGirl: the failsafe display driver will give more colours
[23:15] <usr13> KittyGirl: You'll have much better time with Ubuntu.
[23:15] <KittyGirl> usr13: I know.
[23:16] <[THC]AcidRain> KittyGirl, that is true. and that failsafe came in very good for me as well
[23:16] <ityler15> can anyone help me with my bcm card?
[23:16] <KittyGirl> I'm just going to risk my last DVD.
[23:16] <bazhang> KittyGirl, no cursing here
[23:16] <[THC]AcidRain> KittyGirl, watch the language
[23:16] <KittyGirl> bazhang: Huh?
[23:16] <Rewt`> when I do a symbolic link from /home/git/ to /var/git/ it is setting it up as /var/git/git/
[23:16] <KittyGirl> [THC]AcidRain: What?
[23:16] <usr13> KittyGirl: You only need a CD.  But you could also use a USB flash drive if you like.
[23:16] <Rewt`> how do I get rid of the other /git/
[23:16] <bazhang> KittyGirl, no swearing.
[23:16] <KittyGirl> usr13: I only need a CD?
[23:16] <[THC]AcidRain> Rewt`, change the path manually on the link file
[23:16] <KittyGirl> bazhang: I didn't.
[23:16] <usr13> KittyGirl: Yes
[23:17] <[THC]AcidRain> KittyGirl, right
[23:17] <ahrikun> I was trying to find the install dir for xchat irc so when i clicked on a "join chat now" link it would open the irc with xchat
[23:17] <KittyGirl> usr13: Oh i didn't know that.
[23:17] <[THC]AcidRain> ubuntu communit works hard to make your install under 700megs
[23:17] <KittyGirl> Thanks for the help.
[23:17] <JetJagurXP> Alright I'm looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing and I'm wondering...  the IPtables stuff, is that modifying the Firewall?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> ahrikun: if you run:  which xchat      it will tell you the binary executed
[23:18] <usr13> JetJagurXP: Yes
[23:18] <KittyGirl> Oh sorry for swearing.
[23:18] <html> user13, i neeed a app to read my flash media
[23:18] <KittyGirl> That was automatic.
[23:18] <usr13> JetJagurXP: Actually, just adding to any firewall rules you may already have.
[23:18] <ityler15> any help with bcm43xx wifi card?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | ityler15
[23:19] <Daserfost> Ityler15: wat's d problem
[23:19] <KittyGirl> usr13: That link doesn't tell me what i'm doing wrong.
[23:19] <JetJagurXP> Ok.  Maybe I am in the wrong place, I have a 11.04 server and I'm administering using Webmin.  Will making these manual changes screw up my existing Firewall setup?
[23:20] <KittyGirl> I seem to be burning the disc right.
[23:20] <KittyGirl> Is there a setting i should change?
[23:20] <KittyGirl> Like the speed and stuff?
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> KittyGirl: burn slowly,
[23:20] <TeknoCool> i'm back
[23:20] <itaylor57> !webadmin | JetJagurXP
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> KittyGirl: be sure you MD5 test the ISO before you use it
[23:20] <TeknoCool> and now i'm running ubuntu ^^
[23:20] <TeknoCool> thank you guys!
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> TeknoCool: wtg
[23:20] <itaylor57> !webmin | JetJagurXP
[23:20] <KittyGirl> ActionParsnip: Thank you :)
[23:21] <ityler15> just getting to use the cards firmware without running ~$ sudo modprobe b43 everytime i turn on my laptop
[23:21] <TeknoCool> in the end i just gave up on defragmenting
[23:21] <JetJagurXP> Oh how nice.  Guess I should uninstall it then.
[23:21] <usr13> JetJagurXP: They might, you just have to see. Probably not though...
[23:21] <KittyGirl> ActionParsnip: And i don't need a DVD even though the ISo is called *DVD.iso?
[23:21] <TeknoCool> thing is i was trying to run the installer w/o mounting the iso
[23:22] <TeknoCool> once i mounted the iso and ran the installer things went smoothly
[23:22] <TeknoCool> installed it on the same partition as windows lmao
[23:22] <usr13> TeknoCool: You need to boot to the CD
[23:22] <TeknoCool> i just mounted it with daemon tools
[23:22] <usr13> TeknoCool: If you run the installer inside of windows, you will only get wubi
[23:22] <TeknoCool> it installed and everything XD
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> KittyGirl: if you downloaded the DVD ISO you will need to burn to a DVD media, or use a USB stick (assuming you can boot USB)
[23:22] <KittyGirl> ActionParsnip: Oh ok. :)
[23:23] <TeknoCool> i had wubi downloaded
[23:23] <KittyGirl> thanks you for your help all of you lovely people!
[23:23] <TeknoCool> when i'd run it it would start downloading the iso
[23:23] <TeknoCool> but it still wouldn't work
[23:23] <TeknoCool> so i manually downloaded the iso
[23:23] <TeknoCool> and mounted it with deamon tools
[23:23] <TeknoCool> and now i'm running ubuntu
[23:23] <[THC]AcidRain> just to double check. on a folder that i wanted a user to be able to read and write to. i would set permissions at 775
[23:23] <[THC]AcidRain> correct?
[23:23] <usr13> TeknoCool: Keep your comments on one line. Okay.  (Don't use enter for punctuation.
[23:24] <TeknoCool> sry
[23:24] <zalg> hi, anyone worked with ibm bladecenters >H in the past? :)
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> [THC]AcidRain: assuming the user is the owner, or in the group which is the group owner, yes
[23:24] <[THC]AcidRain> hmmm lets say the user is in neither
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> zalg: I do currently, they rock
[23:24] <[THC]AcidRain> cause i have a user set as "ftpuser" and is not in the group or owner
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> [THC]AcidRain: then it gets the acces in the last ioctet
[23:25] <[THC]AcidRain> oh snap
[23:25] <[THC]AcidRain> but i dont want the user to have execute...
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> [THC]AcidRain: 5 = read + execute
[23:25] <zalg> ActionParsnip, any side you like a bit less?
[23:25] <[THC]AcidRain> so... 4?
[23:25] <[THC]AcidRain> 2 + 2?
[23:25] <rhin0> can't figure out that even when coppying stuff over my network the internet seems to slow down
[23:25] <rhin0> or even -- can't get sites
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> TeknoCool: 4 = read
[23:25] <[THC]AcidRain> nah... ill have to look it up
[23:25] <flametai1> Hello FlameTai1_ and welcome to #ubuntu
[23:25] <flametai1> Hello conradev and welcome to #ubuntu
[23:26] <rhin0> anyone know why?
[23:26] <flametai1> Hello G00053 and welcome to #ubuntu
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> zalg: how do you mean?
[23:26] <TeknoCool> sorry?
[23:26] <bazhang> flametai1, stop that
[23:26] <[THC]AcidRain> ActionParsnip, so it would be 6
[23:26] <[THC]AcidRain> read + write
[23:26] <zulax> when i installed ubuntu server ethernet was working, now that i boot it up i cant ping the internet
[23:26] <zalg> ActionParsnip, is there anything about them you do not like or wish would be better?
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> [THC]AcidRain: you got it
[23:26] <usr13> flametai1: Turn off our auto greating thing.
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> zalg: not had an issue with them, the kvm is dead handy too :)
[23:27] <[THC]AcidRain> ActionParsnip, ok now my second question. lets say i add a file to this folder manually. do i have to reapply the permissions?
[23:27] <[THC]AcidRain> since i will probably always be applying permissions with -R
[23:27] <usr13> [THC]AcidRain: Don't see why you have to do it in the first place.
[23:27] <FlameTai1_> bazhang, Sorry about that xD was testing a script in xChat, didn't mean to activate it in #Ubuntu 0.0
[23:27] <KittyGirl> Woah
[23:27] <KittyGirl> Lots of errors while writing this disc.
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> [THC]AcidRain: that I am not 100% on, maybe someone else can contribute. I believe they copy the containning folder but I may be wrong
[23:28] <KittyGirl> hehe wheeeeee
[23:28] <[THC]AcidRain> usr13, cause if the proper file permissions arent there, then the user: 1. cant login. 2. cant download
[23:28] <usr13> [THC]AcidRain: man group
[23:29] <wolFmitchell> How do I remove ubuntu to put windows on?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> [THC]AcidRain: all I can really suggest is create a new folder and have a play with permissions, see what happens :)
[23:29] <usr13> wolFmitchell: The installer will do it for you.
[23:29] <[THC]AcidRain> ActionParsnip, thats what im doing now
[23:29] <usr13> wolFmitchell: Oh sorry.  sudo fdisk
[23:29] <[THC]AcidRain> usr13, but even at that. what if a certain group doesnt have proper permissions? i still run into the same issue
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> wolFmitchell: boot to the windows install CD and install it, part of the process is partitioning
[23:29] <usr13> wolFmitchell: Oh sorry.  sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[23:30] <wolFmitchell> Usr-The windows installer wont open from disk
[23:30] <[THC]AcidRain> ActionParsnip, negative on that. the file still has its same permissions
[23:30] <wolFmitchell> Err, I cant boot into disk to run the installer
[23:30] <itaylor57> [THC]AcidRain, umask of the user will determine the default permissions on file/dir creation
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> wolFmitchell: then I suggest you ask in ##windows
[23:30] <usr13> wolFmitchell: Then you can't install windows
[23:30] <wolFmitchell> Ok
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> wolFmitchell: the fact that ubuntu is installed is moot, the installer wil allow you to remove the partitions and instal as you wish
[23:31] <usr13> wolFmitchell: Are you installing win7 ?
[23:31] <[THC]AcidRain> itaylor57, but that isnt the case...
[23:31] <wolFmitchell> Usr-Vista
[23:31] <Guest64147> Excuse me is there an ubuntu channel in french?
[23:32] <[THC]AcidRain> i have a folder that anyone in the world can add files to. but i also want to add files to them. i cant make me be part of a certain group. that would take permissions away from me
[23:32] <usr13> wolFmitchell: The Vista installer has capability to re-partition the drive
[23:32] <usr13> !fr  | Guest64147
[23:32] <Guest64147> Thanks :D
[23:32] <KittyGirl> I'm using infra burner and it's at 100% but the writing buffer is still going and the Ok button is grayed out.
[23:32] <KittyGirl> Is there something wrong?
[23:33] <[THC]AcidRain> KittyGirl, give it a few more seconds
[23:33] <KittyGirl> [THC]AcidRain: k :)
[23:33] <[THC]AcidRain> its probably finalizing
[23:33] <wolFmitchell> Ok\
[23:33] <KittyGirl> Sorry if i'm annoying you all. :(
[23:33] <[THC]AcidRain> KittyGirl, never. this is the support channel. thats why people like me are here. only to help and get help.
[23:33] <KittyGirl> :)
[23:33] <KittyGirl> THank you
[23:34] <usr13> [THC]AcidRain: Adding the users to a common group and assinging the directory and it's contents ownership to that group will do the job for you.
[23:34] <[THC]AcidRain> usr13, ok understood. im taking your word for this
[23:35] <usr13> [THC]AcidRain: Trust me, it works.
[23:37] <ityler15> whats the  purge command for removing wl from starting up instead of bcm4311?
[23:37] <KittyGirl> Grrrrrr!
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> itaylor57: add:  blacklist wl    to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[23:38] <KittyGirl> I still fail to install Ubuntu. :'(
[23:38] <KittyGirl> This disc wont boot up.
[23:38] <KittyGirl> Where the other disc gives me I/O errors.
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> KittyGirl: did you MD5 test the ISO?
[23:38] <KittyGirl> ActionParsnip: There weren't an option to do that.
[23:38] <KittyGirl> Why is Ubuntu so hard to burn to disc?
[23:39] <alien64> its not hard
[23:39] <KittyGirl> I don't have problems with other distros.
[23:39] <KittyGirl> damn it
[23:39] <RodneyJarvis> KittyGirl: How are you trying to burn it?
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | KittyGirl
[23:39] <KittyGirl> RodneyJarvis: With Infra Recorder.
[23:40] <RodneyJarvis> KittyGirl: Do you know the dd command?
[23:40] <RodneyJarvis> Is anyone using Irssi? I'm trying to figure out how to search.
[23:40] <KittyGirl> Awww
[23:40] <KittyGirl> This is too hard.
[23:40] <KittyGirl> Sorry i'm not in the mood.
[23:40] <RodneyJarvis> KittyGirl: So that means no...?
[23:41] <scorchgeek> RodneyJarvis: /lastlog <searchterms>
[23:41] <alien64> RodneyJarvis: try #irssi
[23:41] <scorchgeek> and yeah, #irssi might help more next time :D
[23:41] <TeknoCool> sry, it's me again
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> KittyGirl: you have failed to test the ISO so you have no way of knowing if the file is complete and healthy, it's not hard in any way
[23:42] <RodneyJarvis> scorchgeek: alien64 Thank you, let me try it.
[23:43] <rhin0> can't figure out why even copying files over wirelsss network would slow my internetr down -- can't even get pages when something copying over NFS
[23:43] <rhin0> anyone
[23:43] <scorchgeek> rhin0: well, the network is being used, so it seems natural to me that your internet would slow down
[23:43] <rhin0> well I just thought that things would be balanced rather than when something is copying the internet STOPS
[23:43] <scorchgeek> though it doesn't normally stop completely, yeah
[23:44] <ityler15> isnt working:/
[23:44] <rhin0> I will rese the router I have a feeling something isn't right
[23:45] <RodneyJarvis> scorchgeek: You are an Irssi user?
[23:45] <scorchgeek> RodneyJarvis: yep
[23:46] <ityler15> i could really appreciate some help right now...
[23:46] <bazhang> ityler15, with what
[23:46] <ityler15> bcm43xx
[23:47] <RodneyJarvis> scorchgeek: I just tried /lastlog linux, which brought back info on #Ubuntu only...
[23:47] <RodneyJarvis> scorchgeek: Where am I going wrong?
[23:47] <bazhang> ityler15, whats the exact issue please, paste.ubuntu.com with the errors and give us the url
[23:47] <scorchgeek> RodneyJarvis: yes, I think it only does one channel at a time
[23:47] <KittyGirl> FINE
[23:47] <ityler15> bazhang: my card will start but i think wl is blocking it
[23:47] <scorchgeek> RodneyJarvis: I don't know much about irssi, but #irssi should know
[23:47] <KittyGirl> I'm going to the time when i used Fedora.
[23:48] <ityler15> i just need the command to remove wl
[23:48] <RodneyJarvis> scorchgeek: Ahhh okay, so it's both of us lol. Either way thanks.
[23:48] <scorchgeek> KittyGirl: I don't believe your difficulty is due to the actual content of the image you're burning, but whatever
[23:48] <ityler15> bazhang: i just need the command to remove it
[23:48] <bazhang> ityler15, remove the module? or blacklist it
[23:48] <ityler15> bazhang: "wl"
[23:49] <ityler15> remove it completely, i did it before and it worked perfectly
[23:49] <ityler15> bazhang: ive removed it before and it word fine but i got a fresh install today
[23:49] <ityler15> bazhang: worked*
[23:50] <ityler15> bazhang: i think the command was purge -r something
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> ityler15: if you blacklist the module, it will never load
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> ityler15: much easier and less destructive
[23:52] <ityler15> ActionParsnip: whats the command?
[23:52] <Gskellig> how much space does ubuntu 11.04 take up on a complete install?
[23:53] <TeknoCool> how can i acess my old files from windows?
[23:53] <scorchgeek> Gskellig: the Recommended System Requirements say 5GB is recommended: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> ityler15: gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf     add the line:   blacklist wl     save the new file, reboot to test
[23:53] <scorchgeek> it probably actually takes up a bit less than that, though
[23:53] <szal> TeknoCool: mount partition, access files
[23:53] <Gskellig> also, what kind of support does ubuntu have for TRIM and SSDs in general?
[23:53] <Gskellig> thanks scorchgeek
[23:54] <TeknoCool> mount partition?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> Gskellig: SSDs work great
[23:54] <Gskellig> ubuntu has TRIM support?
[23:54] <scorchgeek> TeknoCool: it ought to happen automatically if you connect a device
[23:54] <TeknoCool> also it's all on the same partition
[23:54] <scorchgeek> or, if it's another hard drive partition, when you boot
[23:54] <dequeued> so, anyone know about UEFI?
[23:55] <Gskellig> last but not least, does anybody have experience with bumblebee? the hybrid linux driver for ubuntu?
[23:55] <dequeued> even with no drives or network connection plugged in, when UEFI is enabled, "ubuntu" appears as an option
[23:55] <dequeued> is it possible that ubutunu added itself to my motherboard somehow?
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> TeknoCool: if you look in nautilus you should see the windows partition, Ubuntu is installed to Ext4 partitions, they may be on the same drive but not the same partition
[23:56] <scorchgeek> dequeued: my gut instinct would say no to that one, but I know nothing whatsoever about UEFI so I couldn't tell you for sure
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> dequeued: no, thats not possible. There are some Linuxy things you can use to put Linux in the BIOS, but it's not default in Ubuntu
[23:57] <jawashin> Has anyone attempted to add filename encryption to a ecryptfs home directory after setup
[23:58] <gogeta1> bo
[23:59] <dequeued> I wouldn't think so either, ActionParsnip
[23:59] <gogeta> to silent
[23:59] <dequeued> but there it is..
[23:59] <TeknoCool> i see a cd drive a generic multicard and a file system
[23:59] <jawashin> I found that I have to manually add a session key and mount.ecryptfs_private to have my home directory be readable.  (error is regarding the failure to add a filename encryption key)