[01:24] <jjesse> i saw the post about plasma active on planet and it mentioned opensuse and mego packages are you all crazy kids have something on kubuntu as well?
[01:49] <rbelem> jjesse, yup
[01:49] <rbelem> jjesse, they are on the way ;-)
[01:49] <jjesse> i figured
[01:49] <jjesse> someone might want to mention that as the opensuse parts are on planet kde and planet ubuntu
[07:46] <ulmlogger> bulldog98: pingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingping
[08:36] <Quintasan> Good morning
[08:40] <DaemonFC> is it a known issue that both muon and add-apt-repository fail to import keys leaving you to do it by hand?
[09:15] <bambee> morning
[10:06] <rbelem> Quintasan, morning
[10:07] <rbelem> Quintasan, did you take a look in the kde-runtime? could you upload if it is ok? :-)
[10:08] <Quintasan> Did we get kdelibs uploaded in the first place?
[10:12] <rbelem> Quintasan, i think it was merged in the bzr
[10:12] <Quintasan> It was since I merged it
[10:13] <Quintasan> Now it needs FFe bug and ScottK's approval
[10:13] <rbelem> Quintasan, nice
[10:13] <Quintasan> rbelem: Can you do a FFe bug and ping Scott? I'm somehow busy now
[10:14] <rbelem> Quintasan, yup
[10:14] <rbelem> :-)
[10:14] <rbelem> Quintasan, after that we do -runtime, right?
[10:14] <Quintasan> Most likley
[10:14] <Quintasan> Then we can think about uploading more stuff
[10:33] <jussi> ulmlogger: ping. 
[10:33] <ulmlogger> jussi: syn-ack
[10:33] <ScottK> rbelem: It'd be good to include the -runtime diff in the same FFe.
[10:34] <jussi> ulmlogger: 30 - 3rd Ill be in austria/italy. will you be around? 
[10:34] <jussi> (aug-sept)
[10:35] <ulmlogger> jussi: 30 to 2nd or so
[10:36] <ulmlogger> probably more like 1st, I am leaving for paris sometime on friday
[10:36] <jussi> ulmlogger: ok, then that works. we can come visit you :D
[10:37] <ulmlogger> yay
[11:26] <mfraz74> Trying to download oneric-desktop-amd64 torrent, but I'm getting "unable to contact a tracker"
[11:27] <mfraz74> and if I select trackers "Error: requested download is not authorised for use with this tracker
[11:28] <rbelem> ScottK, i filled a bug for kde4libs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/827286 and kde-runtime https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-runtime/+bug/827283
[11:29] <rbelem> ScottK, there is one for qtmobility1.2, do i need to do the merge?
[11:30] <ScottK> Please get apachelogger to ack the libs/runtime diff and ping me again.
[11:32] <ScottK> Yes. Need the Debian -> Ubuntu debdiff.
[11:34] <rbelem> ScottK, i think ulmlogger already acked kde4libs
[11:34] <rbelem> ScottK, i'm not sure about -runtime
[11:35] <rbelem> ulmlogger, ^
[11:39]  * rbelem goes to work
[11:49] <rbelem> ScottK, i filled this bug too https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mongodb/+bug/827291
[11:50] <rbelem> :-D
[11:50]  * rbelem runs
[11:50] <ScottK> K.
[11:51]  * ScottK is on quasseldroid and not doing bugs ATM.
[14:42] <yofel> Quintasan: *where* did your gles package fail again?
[14:51] <_Groo_> hi/2 all
[14:51] <_Groo_> stupid question
[14:51] <_Groo_> as you guys know, im doing weekly builds of calligra
[14:52] <_Groo_> theres now calligraactive (mobile)
[14:52] <_Groo_> should i create a package for it? for desktop? or leave it off?
[14:55] <yofel> we do have some plasma active packages so feel free to, the folks that got exopc's would probably like to try it ^^
[14:55] <yofel> _Groo_: btw. where's digikam?
[14:58] <_Groo_> yofel: tonight :P
[14:58] <_Groo_> yofel: i cleaned up the packaging, just need to upload it to a ppa
[14:58] <yofel> ok
[14:58] <_Groo_> yofel: i also need to release TH 0.2 tonight anyway
[14:58] <_Groo_> yofel: very busy this week, but ill live up to my promise tonight :)
[14:59] <_Groo_> yofel: i added active into calligra-mobile package
[14:59] <_Groo_> yofel: anyway, they just tagged alpha4 or 3, dont remember now
[15:00] <_Groo_> yofel: but ill refrain to release anything for now
[15:00] <_Groo_> yofel: a beta might be better
[15:06] <Quintasan> yofel: Where you ask? libkwineeffects built with gles is needed as well
[15:07] <Quintasan> And I was getting unspecified CMake Build Target errors from ABIManager OR duplicate SONAME error from ABIManager
[15:08] <Quintasan> yofel: To have the kwineffects with gles we need another package in debian/control with the same X-CMake-Target as libkwineeffects I guess
[15:08] <Quintasan> and that doesn't work ATM
[15:19] <_Groo_> another satisfied costumer: <domme> _Groo_: you are the most annoying packager ever
[15:20] <Quintasan> _Groo_: What are you trying to do?
[15:20] <_Groo_> Quintasan: im the oficial tomahawk maintainer
[15:20] <_Groo_> Quintasan: they are trying to force me to make a jreen lib based on git...
[15:20] <Quintasan> So do it
[15:20] <_Groo_> Quintasan: and im saying i rather not polute natty if i can avoid it
[15:21] <_Groo_> Quintasan: i rather include it internally
[15:21] <Quintasan> You can't upload anything to natty
[15:21] <Quintasan> Just provide it in a PPA
[15:21] <_Groo_> Quintasan: ppl are going to use the ppa
[15:21] <_Groo_> Quintasan: its a formula for failure
[15:21] <_Groo_> Quintasan: ill put in internally where it belongs
[15:21] <Quintasan> Then name the package accordingly?
[15:22] <Quintasan> I don't see any issue here
[15:22] <_Groo_> Quintasan: libjreen+theyhavenoideaofaversiongitheywhatdate~thisis$ucke3~natty.deb
[15:22] <Quintasan> If upstream wants it in a separate package then why don't just do it?
[15:22]  * Quintasan shurgs
[15:23] <_Groo_> Quintasan: they do it internally
[15:23] <_Groo_> Quintasan: for oneiric sure... for natty... i dont like the idea
[15:23] <Quintasan> They build jreen internally, right?
[15:23] <Quintasan> Then what's the problem?
[15:23] <Quintasan> Add another package in debian/control
[15:23] <Quintasan> mark it as experimental software
[15:23] <Quintasan> in Description
[15:23] <_Groo_> Quintasan: eventually someone witll sync with debian, it will conflict mine.. mail arriving in my inbox... not pretty
[15:23] <Quintasan> Name it differently then
[15:24] <_Groo_> Quintasan: yeah im doing it internally
[15:24] <_Groo_> like i did in 0.1
[15:24] <Quintasan> _Groo_: PROTIP: Nothing will most likely change in natty now
[15:24] <_Groo_> its that im just annoying ence the title :D
[15:24] <_Groo_> Quintasan: i know :) im thinking when ppl upgrade
[15:24] <Quintasan> I think PPA's are disabled when upgrading
[15:25] <_Groo_> Quintasan: exactly.. but the lib remains
[15:25] <_Groo_> Quintasan: it will conflict
[15:25] <_Groo_> Quintasan: dumb ppl err i mean users wont know what to do
[15:26] <_Groo_> Quintasan: failure, misery, attempts against my life, apachelogger with a stick
[15:26] <Quintasan> Pff
[15:26] <_Groo_> Quintasan: all avoided with a nice little package with jreen inside :)
[15:29] <yofel> Quintasan: oddly enough your bzr branch just built fine here locally
[15:30] <Quintasan> yofel: My branch doesn't contain libkwineeffects-gles
[15:30] <yofel> Quintasan: so it failed on dh_install?
[15:30] <Quintasan> It has only kde-window-manager-gles package which installs everything and kde-workspace has depends on kde-window-manager | kde-window-manager-gles
[15:31] <Quintasan> yofel: Gah, try adding libkwineeffects-gles with Debian ABIManager yourself
[15:31] <Quintasan> yofel: You will get duplicate SONAME error somewhere at 5% of dh_auto_build
[15:31] <yofel> aaaah, now I get what you mean
[15:33] <yofel> Quintasan: why don't you just drop X-Debian-ABI for libwineffects-gles?
[15:33] <yofel> for now at least
[15:33] <yofel> and add a fixme comment
[15:35] <Quintasan> yofel: I think dropping that also yields some error
[15:39] <Quintasan> yofel: If dropping it works then we are somehow saved :P
[15:39] <yofel> well, I'll do a clean build (with -j1 so ask me again in 2h...)
[15:41] <Quintasan> :P
[15:41]  * Quintasan goes skateboarding
[15:42] <_Groo_> weekly calligra build is done, alpha4 tagged
[15:42] <_Groo_> kinda nice build btw, calligra is becoming very very good
[15:42] <_Groo_> love flow..
[15:42]  * yofel was in the calligra session at DS
[15:43] <yofel> pretty nice indeed, although I still get font rendering issues in word
[15:45] <_Groo_> yofel: jelly
[15:45] <_Groo_> yofel: infidel!
[15:45] <_Groo_> yofel: its a alpha!
[15:45] <yofel> _Groo_: which is funny since it's less broken than kword ^^
[15:46] <yofel> Quintasan: btw. s/dh_clean/dh_auto_clean/ in your clean override target or the default build folder isn't removed on clean
[15:48] <_Groo_> yofel: yeah, they are kicking ass... they are actually sanitizing the code, like ripping kformula and putting it into a shape... good call...
[17:44] <Quintasan> yofel: I used dh_clean there? :S
[17:55] <Quintasan> So yeah, telepathy-kde builds are ready
[17:55] <Quintasan> https://launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde
[17:55] <Quintasan> In case anyone is interested
[18:03] <claydoh> Quintasan: thank you! been waiting for daily builds, i quite like telepathy-kde, it has already replaced kopete
[18:03] <Quintasan> claydoh: on one-eye-rick kde-text-ui is borked
[18:03] <Quintasan> missing build-depend on qtwebkit and I don't have access to branches so I can't fix it right now
[18:04] <claydoh> I am on natty atm :) 
[18:05] <Quintasan> So it should work
[18:06] <Riddell> tazz: yo, what's your name and affiliation?
[18:07] <tazz> waa?
[18:07] <tazz> Name = Gaurav Chaturvedi
[18:07] <tazz> Affiliation = ??
[18:08] <Riddell> bulldog98: likewise
[18:18] <Riddell> Sput: name and affiliation?
[18:19] <Sput> Riddell: for what?
[18:19] <Riddell> for the DS group photo
[18:19] <Sput> ah
[18:19] <Sput> Name = Manuel Nickschas
[18:20] <Sput> Affiliation = Quassel IRC (or do you need my employer?)
[18:20] <Riddell> free software affiliation is what I care about
[18:20] <Sput> there you have it then :)
[18:20] <Sput> are you going to include the nicknames as well?
[18:21] <Riddell> yes
[18:29] <Riddell> yofel: yo
[18:31] <yofel> well,
[18:31] <yofel> Name = Philip Muškovac
[18:31] <yofel> Affiliation = Kubuntu Dev
[18:31] <yofel> would be as what I went there
[18:33] <Riddell> groovy
[18:42] <Riddell> steveire: name and affiliation?
[18:47] <Riddell> right, go wild and find people! http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/desktop-summit-akademy-guadec-group-photo-2011.html
[18:47] <Riddell> type in xxx for unnamed people (most of them)
[18:47] <Riddell> and edit at http://notes.kde.org/desktop-summit-akademy-guadec-group-photo-2011
[19:27] <Riddell> agateau: where are you in the photo?  we've only found 2 canonicalers
[20:21] <yofel> Quintasan: can you try to build workspace again? simply adding a libkwineffects1abi2-gles package that installs the lib from debian/tmp-kwin-gles/ works for me
[20:40] <Quintasan> With no ABIManager?
[20:41] <yofel> well, the abi manager matches control and cmake, so it already uses the abi from the first libkwineffects in the control file
[20:41] <DarkwingDuck> Yay, thats over with.
[20:41] <yofel> that's why it tries to add the abi twice if you have the lib twice in control
[20:43] <Quintasan> yofel: Then libkwineffects1abi2-gles shouldn't work :P
[20:43] <Quintasan> Or I'm doing somethign wrong
[20:43] <yofel> Quintasan: It will work, as long as you don't have X-Debian-ABI in *both*
[20:45] <Quintasan> Now libkwineffects1abi2-gles has to Breaks libkwineffects1abi2
[20:46] <Quintasan> more like Breaks and Conflicts
[20:46] <yofel> right
[20:47] <Quintasan> should I use {binary:Version} or {source:Version}?
[20:49] <Quintasan> yofel: ^
[20:49] <yofel> first I think
[20:51] <Quintasan> Hmm
[20:51] <Quintasan> I also think kde-window-manager-gles should depend on  libkwineffects1abi2-gles
[20:51] <yofel> hm... usually dh_shlibdeps should take care of that...
[20:51] <Quintasan> Let's see if it works
[20:52] <Quintasan> yofel: Can you copypasta your install file for libkwineffects-gles?
[20:52] <yofel> http://paste.kde.org/110311
[20:53] <Quintasan> Thanks
[20:53] <Quintasan> Hah, it won't work like this :D
[20:54] <Quintasan> For KWin
[20:54] <Quintasan> I had to do it like
[20:54] <Quintasan> debian/tmp-kwin-gles/usr/bin/kwin usr/bin/
[20:54] <Quintasan> Or it would install it into tmp-kwin-gles instead of usr/bin :P
[20:55] <Quintasan> Once we get this shit working, we are almost home
[20:56] <yofel> oh true, didn't check, sry ^^
[20:57] <Quintasan> No worries, I just remembered that because I was going apeshit where did the kwin binary go
[20:57] <Quintasan> and I extracted the deb
[20:57] <Quintasan> and did :O face
[20:57]  * Quintasan wants a tablet
[20:58] <Quintasan> or working gles on iMX
[21:00] <Quintasan> kde-workspace on -j1
[21:00] <Quintasan> :/
[21:00] <Quintasan> FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU-
[21:00] <yofel> if I need to build this again I'll probably install ccache
[21:03] <ulysses> timeout error
[21:03] <ulysses> Launchpad, i 'love' you
[21:04] <yofel_> what are you trying to do? ^^
[21:06] <ulysses> nothing special
[21:06]  * Quintasan waits for 10% and goes to bed
[21:06] <Quintasan> yay, access to vasks
[21:07] <Quintasan> あはははははははははははははははは
[21:07] <Quintasan> works!
[21:07] <yofel> is there anything special on vasks? I simply ssh'd to git.debian.org
[21:08] <Quintasan> That's the same host :P
[21:08] <yofel> heh, k
[21:08] <Quintasan> Well then, kde-notworkingspace is building
[21:08] <Quintasan> and I'm going to bed
[21:08] <yofel> hehe, gn
[21:08] <Quintasan> Good night.
[22:09] <ulmlogger> hangout google plus, like now
[22:09] <ulmlogger> everyone do the join
[22:09] <ulmlogger> \o/
[22:11] <markey> join us, Harald Sitter from Kubuntu/KDE/Phonon and Mark Kretschmann from Amarok/KDE/Nokia hanging out
[22:11] <markey> in fact Harald is sitting next to me
[22:56] <claydoh> lol markey and ulmlogger where?
[22:57]  * claydoh doesn't see the notification
[22:57]  * claydoh has to head out anyway :(