[00:01] Hi everybody [00:01] I'm from Brazil,,,, === angel is now known as Guest17739 [00:04] I'm tryng Ubutun at frist time. [00:53] !netsplit [00:53] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit === mitch is now known as Guest38755 [01:17] hello [01:17] Does KDE have a short cut like (windows key + right/left) for window snapping? [01:20] ello? === sean is now known as hightower88 [01:22] ello === jesus is now known as Guest32431 [01:31] dead IRC [03:46] I need to set DisplaySize in xorg. Isn't xorg.conf deprecated now? how am I supposed to do that? [04:08] jschall: most users don't need a xorg.conf, but you can certainly still use one [04:08] jschall: you can try setting up a minimal one - add only what you need, see what /etc/xorg.conf.d has set up already (don't edit those other files) === rana is now known as veku === mdx is now known as Guest51083 === Guest51083 is now known as mdx__ === mdx is now known as Guest59785 [07:06] first time on an IRC channel just testing things out [07:10] how is everyone doing tonight [07:11] Hello! Can you help us with configuring Yate? [07:13] sorry, Im not familar with that....... [07:13] !info yate [07:13] yate (source: yate): Yet Another Telephony Engine (YATE). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.0-1~dfsg-1.1 (natty), package size 20 kB, installed size 124 kB [07:14] teleproject: they seem to have a rather well done documentation on their website: http://yate.null.ro/pmwiki/index.php?n=Main.Documentation [07:18] I can't find enough information on the web-site [07:20] The task is following: We have some lines from our sip-provider and some operators that make calls. We need to use another line if one of them have been already occupied by an operator. === vojta is now known as VojtechFranc [08:39] bjr les gens [08:39] jsuis nouvelle === doudou is now known as Binette [08:40] ya quelqu'un ic? [08:40] ici? [08:43] good morning [08:51] ff [08:51] hell [08:53] this isn't hell. hell is on your left... [08:53] is this ? [08:54] how install QQ in ubuntu 11.04? [08:54] what's QQ ?4 [08:54] what's QQ ? [08:55] this is a im tool like gtalk [08:55] I believe it is an instant messaging service popular in China [08:55] yes [08:55] Kopete has a plug-in that claims to be compatible [08:56] you are right [08:56] bug that cann't use [08:56] but [08:56] Pidgin/libpurple also supports it iirc [08:56] that don't work [08:57] I'm not sure what else would, I am not familiar with their service [08:57] if all else failed you could probably try stuffing their Windows client into Wine *shrug* [08:58] in wine that not stable [08:58] yes, Wine is hit or miss, that's why it's my last resort :) [08:58] are there packages for it anywhere? [08:58] a deb or .tar.bz or... [08:59] not [08:59] Wikipedia claims they have an official Linux binary [08:59] have you tried looking for that on their site? [09:00] oh, n/m [09:00] yes ,but not find solution [09:00] apparently what they mean by Linux is, there was one preview release three years ago :P [09:00] that sucks [09:01] pirate Windows is disturbingly popular in China, unfortunate really [09:01] the official os of china is linux based maybe that's why [09:02] they could be teaching self-sufficiency instead of how to memorize menus and what to press when the machine crashes :) [09:02] I konw,thanks [09:14] in kubuntu ,when open screen protection for moment ,the computer don't work why ? [09:15] in kubuntu ,when open screen protection for a moment ,the computer don't work why ? [09:15] after locking the screen? [09:15] yes [09:16] what video driver? [09:16] it's not FGLRX is it? [09:17] how can i kown my video driver? [09:17] e.g. 'lspci -k' [09:18] have you installed anything that said it was proprietary video drivers? [09:19] VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) [09:19] I've noticed lately that the proprietary AMD Radeon driver likes to suspend the monitor then fail to resume it [09:19] no [09:19] ahh, there are no proprietary Intel drivers [09:19] .... [09:19] I fixed my problem passing pcie_aspm=force on the kernel boot line [09:20] how fix? [09:20] if it suspends when it locks there'll be a delay coming back [09:21] some company that makes aspirin has done a lot of business thanks to ATI and various printer companies [09:23] How to solve this problem [09:27] "if it suspends when it locks there'll be a delay coming back " but some times,it don't come back [09:28] like it is crashed ,but you can press ctrl + F1 to xterm , [09:30] is that ctrl+alt+f1? [09:30] yes [09:30] as a guess it'll be a memory issue - is it an old computer? [09:31] not ,2G memery [09:31] not ,2G memory [09:33] 4 series chip for the graphics says it's oldish - was it cheap memory you bought sometimes that doesn't work out [09:34] "2G memory" doesn't say much about how old the machine is ;) [09:35] my 7-yo secondary machine has 3 GiB in the meantime [09:35] I know ,that said my chip is old [09:35] I don't really like how they force you to stop using the system tray [09:36] oops, wropng room [09:37] thank you very much === peer is now known as Guest43536 [11:28] 0.0 === jaimesharon is now known as Susie [11:29] >.> === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:47] Quick question: when trying to install some packages (namely, restricted-extras), KPackageKit is asking for my install DVD. How do I set it to just grab it from the repos? [11:48] Duolos: how are you with using the command line? [11:49] mfraz74: Quite comfortable. But I think I found it by just removing it from the sources :) [11:50] Duolos: that should work. The file you need to look in is /etc/apt/sources.list [11:50] Duolos: the dvd entry is normally the first one [11:51] mfraz74: Yeah, I asked for help a little too soon. Completely forgot the dvd entry is enabled by default. [11:52] Now I just gotta figure out how to install all the stuff I need for development again. It's been about a year since I've touched Linux. [11:53] Duolos: don't worry about it. The other day I was wondering why I was getting error 403 from certain repos. Turns out I'd forgotten to update the proxy! [11:54] I believe that's what the kids call a "brain fart" these days :) [11:59] true [12:00] Howdy all [12:09] Hmm... could someone please tell me how to install/run the Akonadi tray? [12:11] Duolos: easiest way is Alt-F2 and then type akonadi [12:12] errore [12:13] mfraz74: Yeah, that's what I figured... but it doesn't appear to even be installed [12:14] akonadi isn't found [12:14] However, I see the configuration tools in the K menu. [12:18] akonaditray is in the package kdepim-runtime [12:33] apoi_ prova [12:34] !it | gigitux [12:34] gigitux: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [13:32] hi, how do I get digital audio out to a 5.1 surround system to work on kubuntu? [13:39] anyone? [13:39] g0th, it depends what sounsetup you have , which player (I recommend VLC) [13:40] g0th, got pulseaudio ? [13:41] pulseaudio has DD and DTS passthru but it;s known to b buggy and unreliable [13:42] mplayer [13:42] yes I think pulseaudio [13:44] g0th,ok so you want to use the cli with mplayer string commands to run the show , so to speak? [13:46] g0th, ? [13:47] yes [13:47] but my problem is that it seems that I can't get 5.1 surround to work [13:49] the easiest would be if it could just be passed on to the amplifier [13:49] well then i suggest you join the #mplayer chat , they'll know more ..I use vlc without pulseaudio and have been for a few yrs .. I can guide you how to set that up if you wish , otherwise ask in #mplayer, or maybe someone else here [13:50] but how do I get surround working in the kubuntu desktop? [13:50] like normal sound effects etc [13:50] resp. in multimedia [13:50] I should first do this before I go to specific applications, no? [13:50] i.e. first check if the audio driver/phonon/pulse/alsa/whatever settings I have work ok [13:51] first of all , open alsamixer and make sure you choose spdif output [13:51] -ao pulse -channels 6 at least gives audio [13:51] but it is not surround audio [13:52] alsamixer or pavucontrol or what? [13:52] in alsamixer I have not muted spdif [13:52] what do you mean by "choose spdif output"? [13:52] pulseaudio is not necessary , unless you want several different audio streams going at the same time [13:55] but it is present [13:55] so we have to deal with it [13:55] in phonon without pulseaudio , you will have more options [13:55] e.g. iirc alsa stuff is actually using pulseaudio [13:55] but it is not possible to easily remove pulseaudio [13:55] I tried it once and it caused more harm than it did good [13:55] I hate pulseaudio [13:55] yes pulse audio rides on top of alsa as a sound server , it's not required [13:56] but it seems I am better of with it than without because it is bundled so tight [13:56] no it's not [13:56] all right I try again [13:56] so what do I do? [13:56] we had alsa working on kubuntu before pa was introduced [13:57] remove pulseaudio [13:57] and what do I use? [13:57] alsa directly? [13:57] yes [13:57] no [13:57] sorry I tried that [13:57] it is not working [13:57] it's default anyway [13:57] example: [13:57] I open a firfox browser go to flash video page somewhere [13:57] play it [13:58] return do some other stuff [13:58] now audio is blocked [13:58] sometimes even if I kill firefox [13:58] well . you have to set it up properly in phonon [13:58] hmm? [13:58] what does this have to do with the issue I mentioned? [13:58] alsa directly has the tendency to be "captured" by some stupid things like "flash/java/whatever" [13:59] I mean kind of hijacked [13:59] extremely annoying [13:59] that was another reason I switched back to pulse, even though I hate pulse [14:01] g0th, do you want go any further ..I have digital out going to my audio receiver and alsa/phonon/vlc passes the signal properly [14:01] yes I want to go further [14:01] so you say it only works without pulse? [14:02] I "killall -9 pulseaudio" [14:02] but -ao alsa still gives no audio at -channels 6 [14:02] ok , if you want to try my method , the we can go further... [14:03] just remove pulseaudio and logout and in , then we can proceed [14:04] why? [14:04] why can I not just kill pulseaudio? [14:05] I want to test it first instead of "removing it testing, seeing it doesnt work and installing everything again" [14:05] to get rid of pulseaudio, it's persistent otherwise [14:05] hmpf [14:05] how do I solve this flash issue? [14:05] that applications hijack my audio? [14:06] anyway, doing it right now [14:06] hmm [14:06] need to go in 10 minutes though [14:07] brb [14:12] re [14:12] so I removed pulseaudio [14:12] now my whole phonon setup is messed up [14:12] :( [14:13] g0th: have you tried https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio#Alternative_configurations (for 5.1 using pulseaudio) [14:13] why do you say this after telling me to remove pulseaudio? [14:13] now all old configurations are gone [14:13] beacuse you left before I could :) [14:14] g0th: did you purge or remove? only purging would remove the configs [14:14] (and user configs are never auto deleted) [14:14] K re ve [14:14] I removed it [14:14] but the configuration is still lost [14:14] it asked me when I started the phonon settings [14:14] anyway [14:14] so what do I do now with alsa? [14:15] g0th, the phonon is not messed up , you just need to use the right setting dev=0 or whatever the alsamixer driver uses [14:15] why does it say "PulseAudio Sound Server" ? [14:15] even though I have no pulseaudio? [14:15] what does? [14:15] phono [14:15] under device preferences [14:15] everything there is gone now, just pulse audio server left [14:16] then you dodn't remove pulseaudio , you just killed it right/ [14:16] ? [14:16] no [14:16] I removed it [14:17] !google | me [14:17] me: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question. [14:17] g0th: what exactly did you remove? [14:17] everthing with "pulse" in its name [14:17] except libpulse [14:17] hmm but audio adapter digitel stereo now works :) [14:18] hmm actually I am not sure if it works because there is no test button, but mplayer still plays audio after I select the digital stereo in phonon... [14:19] hmm ok it doesnt work [14:19] but mplayer seems to work independently< [14:19] basically my whole phonon settings is total garbage [14:20] nothing is working and a lot of strange/wrong things written [14:20] g0th, it's not , it just shows all your options [14:20] like "PulseAudio Sound Server" which is not here [14:20] I cannot select _anything_ now under Audio Hardware test [14:20] it is completely blank [14:20] shows no options [14:21] open alsamixer in the terminal , what's the driver listed in the top left [14:21] HDA Intel [14:22] Chip: Realtek ALC888 [14:22] you probly need to reboot , to re-establish the phonon device list [14:23] ok [14:23] last thing I try [14:23] damn pulseaudio [14:24] it should be optional [14:25] * James147 finds pulseaudio works better then raw alsa :P [14:26] James147, depends on the setup ...he needs to feed a digital stream to his audio amp ..not just a set of pc speakers [14:28] re [14:28] ok now everything looks completely different [14:28] (in a good way) [14:29] yes , now look for the alc888 digital in the phonon device list [14:30] yes there are now like 5 digital devices there [14:30] but there is no more device list [14:30] just device preference [14:30] direcat hardware with(out) software conversion [14:31] no comment [14:31] usually the default is device=0 , pass the cursor over each one , but do the test sound on it first [14:31] and [14:31] it works [14:31] does it say dev=0 [14:31] but it seems to be dev=3 [14:31] the digital one [14:31] dev=0 is analog [14:32] I need to go soon [14:32] mplayer -ao alsa -channels 6 still not working [14:33] is spdif the usual optical out? [14:34] ok , that's fine , mine is intel/nvidia , alc1200 .. well, now if you think you absolutely have to use the cli , then you should go to #mplayer to ask about the proper command string [14:34] how do I setup kubnut/phonon? [14:34] I have now sound but I am not sure it is surround [14:34] depends on your soundcard , is there a coax or optical out then try them [14:35] optical out [14:35] is it connected your DAC on the amplifier ? [14:36] DAC? [14:36] the cable is connected if that is your question [14:36] digital to analog converter [14:36] it is connected to optical digital in [14:36] basically it looks the same on the amp as on the pc [14:37] do you have a dolby digital light or indicator on the amp? [14:37] I have a menu [14:37] there I can press info to see how many channels [14:37] I never got anything else besides 2 channels [14:38] on the info [14:38] mine lights up a display telling me what digital stream is 3/2/1 etc [14:38] 3=front 2=back 1=subwoofer [14:39] g0th, that's why i use vlc rather than mplayer , it has configurable audi section which passes the DD and DTS to your amp properly [14:40] audio [14:40] ok I try vlc [14:40] but that was not my question [14:40] my question was about the phonon settings [14:41] I want all these to be done "properly" [14:42] g0th, we need to make sure that vlc is looking at the right feed from phonon [14:43] that's why we want to setup the default feed properly no? [14:43] yes [14:44] where? [14:44] you want the digital dev that passes from spdif to phonon then to vlc [14:44] what? [14:44] this has nothing to do with vl [14:44] vlc [14:44] I am asking about phonon [14:45] I can get mplayer/vlc etc to work with the help from their channels [14:45] but more importantly I want the base settings of alsa/phonon/etc to be correct [14:45] that is what I am worrying about atm [14:46] alc888 digital dev=3 , or whichever one works is the one we choose in phonon , don't worry we''ll work that out after you install vlc [14:46] ok so I don't need to open any other program or edit alsa configuration files? [14:46] any idea why apps cant remember activity they are assigned to ? [14:47] looks like setting desktop in app properties doesnt work either :/ [14:47] no , leave alsa alone ..just need to make sure alsamixer is set up right [14:47] i mean it works but isnt save [14:48] still isnt working [14:48] no surround [14:48] soee I don't understand the activity option [14:48] g0th, have patience . we're not finished yet [14:50] g0th, open alsamixer , make sure digital is 90% and spdif is not muted [14:50] there is no "digital" in alsamixer [14:51] g0th, f5 chooses " all " , then you 'll see it [14:52] oops sorry I mean pcm [14:52] to me pcm is digital :) [14:53] all up [14:53] to 90 [14:53] still no surround [14:54] open vlc /tools/preferences/audio [14:55] k [14:56] I have to go now [14:56] but it is not working [14:57] g0th,in vlc choose alsa output , spdif when aavailable , alc888 dev=3 [14:58] I cannot set options [14:58] I choose alsa [14:58] bye [14:58] bb in 10 hours or so [14:58] Hmm... trying to install a .deb but it's telling me I can't because it's 32-bit (I'm on Kubuntu 11.04 64-bit). Any way around that? [14:58] Duolos, deb of what [14:59] bazhang: Amazon MP3 Downloader [14:59] They don't offer a 64-bit option, apparently. [15:00] hi, i just installed kubuntu on my pc as this is my first touch with kde. I almost configured everything but i need something that i miss yet. [15:01] When i open the terminal and select a string, it does not go to clipboard, this was default on ubuntu with gnome [15:01] can you tell me how can i get this working? this was very useful for me with gnome [15:02] anebi: Do you mean you want it copied to the clipboard as soon as it's selected without having to right-click and choose copy? [15:02] I didn't know Gnome did that. [15:03] Duolos: Yeah, exactly. :) [15:03] gnome does it and is very useful as it helps for faster work in terminal :) [15:05] anebi: in klipper (in the systray) settings set iut to sync the clipboar and selection buffers [15:06] (also, middle click pastes the selection buffer) [15:06] general idea is if you using the mouse to select you can middle click :) [15:07] James147: cool thanks, setting sync option did what i was looking for :) Yes, middle click is also very useful. paste is easier, but for copy it is difficult as we cannot use CTR + C in terminal :) Thanks again [15:08] anebi: you can ^^ ctrl+shift+[c|v] [15:09] (at least in konsole) [15:09] James147: yes, i do this right now, but combination if 3 buttons is too much for me :) i prefer other ways for this :) in case there is no other ways, then i use this :) [15:10] you can change it to meta+c ^^ :) [15:10] James147: i didn't know about this, i just learned something new :) [15:10] (you can change just about any keyboard shorcut in kde) [15:10] either in the program or in system settings [15:12] James147: i will check this, i suppose it will not be necessary for now :) [15:13] can you give me any tips about better font configuration? i was playing little bit with it and get better results, but it looks like it still need some tuning. i'm with LCD display [15:14] anebi: you played with the anti-aliasing settings? [15:14] James147: yes, it is enabled right now [15:15] anebi: have you played with its setting though? [15:15] James147: yes. maybe i have to choose a better font. i'm using now ubuntu font, it was default i think [15:15] yea [15:17] James147: thanks, i will do that. i have to leave now, bye bye for now [15:23] James147, where's the set to sync option in the cipboard for klipper ? [15:23] BluesKaj: setting > general [15:24] heh, I have no clipboard anyway [15:24] rather configure klipper > general :) [15:26] there's no configure klipper here ...must be missing something [15:26] BluesKaj: you have klipper running in the systray? [15:26] yes James147 [15:27] :s never seen it without that option [15:27] edit contents ? [15:28] nop [15:30] err suddenly appeared with a whole lot of other stuff [15:31] al I had was help , edit contents and a list of lines that had been copied [15:34] James147, on neiric , some strange things happening ..keyring pw popups out of nowhere etc [15:34] oneiric [15:35] BluesKaj: what do you expect form a pre-released version? :) [15:35] :) [15:50] I recently install Kubuntu 11.04 64-bit and my max volume is EXTREMELY low. Any way to fix that? [15:50] ... kmix refuses to launch, by the way. [15:51] Duolos: tried alsamixer? [15:51] I didn't think KDE used alsa anymore... [15:52] it sure does [15:52] hey! That did it. Thanks, James147 [15:52] kmix is just a gui for alsamixer [15:53] James147, BluesKaj: However, by increasing the master volume in alsamixer, while it increased my volume no longer allows me to control my volume with my laptop's physical controls. [15:54] Any idea how to get the boost from a max "Master" in alsamixer but also have control? [15:55] Duolos, then you need to find the right KB layout to make sure the ctrls will work [15:55] Duolos: need kmix running to control the colum with shorcuts [15:55] volume [15:56] BluesKaj: the keys worked fine before I ran alsamixer, so I must have the right layout. [15:56] yeah , kmix should do it [15:56] Except that kmix refuses to run. Even trying to run it from the konsole produces no output at all. [15:57] Duolos, do the KB vol ctrls show on the scrn when keyed? [15:57] BluesKaj: Yes. But with no effect on the actual volume. [15:58] Duolos: is it running already? (pgrep -l kmix) [15:58] James147: Ah. Yes, it is. [15:58] Duolos: if its not in the systray then try killing it and rerunning it [15:59] James147: It is in the systray. And changing the volume there has no effect either. [15:59] hmm [15:59] * BluesKaj is reluctant to bring up the pulseaudio issues ..pavucontrol might help tho [16:00] James147: yeah, makes no sense to me. It's like a completely different process has taken over my audio. [16:00] anyway bbl ...lunchtime [16:01] Duolos: pulseaudio should grab the audio when kde starts [16:02] (then everything goes through that) [16:03] What is Phonon? ... sorry, it's been a long time since I've used KDE [16:04]