[00:31] <Liquidsnakex> hey holstein !
[00:31] <Liquidsnakex> i am in a problem please help me man !
[00:31] <Liquidsnakex> hey philipballew
[00:33] <philipballew> whats your problem Liquidsnakex
[00:33] <Liquidsnakex> i want to put ubuntu 11.04 with win xp, and have them both functional and bootable,
[00:33] <Liquidsnakex> i don't understand what is mount point and boot loader installation
[00:34] <philipballew> are you using the graphical install?
[00:34] <Liquidsnakex> i am installing from the cd
[00:35] <Liquidsnakex> and i freed 10 giga 9 for the ubuntu and 1 for the swap area is this correct ?
[00:35] <philipballew> the installer should do that all for you. just choose the duel boot option and select how much you want for each system
[00:36] <Liquidsnakex> well there is a problem, the ubuntu installer takes from drive D: which is almost full and i use it and don't want it to get smaller
[00:36] <Liquidsnakex> so i cut 10 giga from C: because it's empty & i want to put ubuntu 11.04 on that empty new partition
[00:37] <philipballew> then install it on there. http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/04/23/how-to-install-ubuntu-11-04-from-usb-or-cd/
[00:37] <Liquidsnakex> yes but what should i do choose for the Mount point and the boot loader installation ?
[00:38] <philipballew> it shiuld do that automaticly. if in doubt chose the ubuntu partition
[00:39] <Liquidsnakex> well i am sorry but it doesn't seem to do that auto.
[00:40] <philipballew> are you using the regular installer?
[00:40]  * philipballew has never duel booted
[00:41] <Liquidsnakex> ouch ...
[00:41] <philipballew> what?
[00:41] <Liquidsnakex> yea i am using the normal installation method , putting cd iso, choose install ubuntu, then i get stuck at that point which i want to install ubuntu on a specific partition i freed it
[00:41] <urlin2u> could I suggest a screen shot of gparted looking at the HD ;)
[00:42] <Liquidsnakex> urlin2u what's the gparted ? sorry not good with abbreviations
[00:42]  * nlsthzn_work can see a photo of a screen being uploaded shortly...
[00:43] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, gparted is a partitioner on the live ubuntu cd.
[00:43] <philipballew> g stands for gnome
[00:43] <Liquidsnakex> thanks folks
[00:43] <Liquidsnakex> well i will do it right away how to send it to you to check it ?
[00:44] <philipballew> someone will see it yes
[00:44] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, image bin attach it then post the http address  http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[00:45] <Liquidsnakex> well wait a urlin2u please, i cannot go to the installation process and capture a screenshot at the same time
[00:46] <philipballew> gparted is not part of the install
[00:46] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, my suggestion is to it first to make sure what your doing is correct.
[00:46] <Liquidsnakex> i am just confused about the Moint Point and boot loader installation i need to understand them so i can install ubuntu 11.04 without any problems
[00:47] <urlin2u> excellent advice here but some stuff is not known for example how many partitions now as in primaries
[00:47] <philipballew> i gtg. off to davis lug meeting
[00:47] <Liquidsnakex> i am searching for about 3 hours for them and there is not sufficiant data or info about them
[00:47] <Liquidsnakex> i see
[00:48] <Liquidsnakex> i had 2 partitons C & D . on C windows xp, i created a new partition E 10 giga, logical one i guess
[00:48] <philipballew> open gparted
[00:48] <philipballew> take screenshot
[00:48] <philipballew> :)
[00:53] <Liquidsnakex> processing
[00:54] <Liquidsnakex> http://imagebin.org/168011
[00:54] <Liquidsnakex> thanks philipballew
[00:54] <Liquidsnakex> where is holstein and nlsthzn_work
[00:55]  * nlsthzn_work lurks in the shadows
[00:56] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, the 10 gig partion is a ntfs is that where you wanted the Ubuntu?
[00:57] <Liquidsnakex> yes urlin2u
[00:57] <Liquidsnakex> i will of course format it to ext4 for ubuntu 11.04
[00:58] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, so ubuntu would be a ext4 how much ram do you have?
[00:58] <urlin2u> cool you know the ext type
[00:58] <Liquidsnakex> 1 GB
[00:58] <Liquidsnakex> yea urlin2u i have been doing some reading so i don't waste time here
[00:58] <urlin2u> cool so with gparted, make a 9 gig ext4 and a swap after it, from the live cd.
[00:59] <Liquidsnakex> i am just stuck at those points of : Mouting point and boot loader installation what does it mean it's confusing me that's all
[00:59] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, no problem I can help you there, we wil build the partitions then custom instal and go through that. ;-)
[01:00] <urlin2u> urlin2u, you have to be on the live cd though with no keys showing which means mounted
[01:00] <Liquidsnakex> thanks urlin2u
[01:01] <urlin2u> no probem both the other helpers are awesome, but not here at the moment
[01:01] <Liquidsnakex> ouch
[01:01] <Liquidsnakex> well if you could just explain to me what does those mean the mount point and boot loader installatio
[01:01]  * nlsthzn_work has faith in urlin2u ability to get this done... 
[01:02] <Liquidsnakex> i just want to make the laptop able to dual boot both xp and ubuntu 11.04
[01:02] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, thats easy, the grub bootoader wil pick up XP.
[01:02] <Liquidsnakex> so shall i leave it as xp because it's not the "default" by the way
[01:03] <Nubi1Kenobi>  ned to make fslint see my NAS drive.....not sure how
[01:03] <Nubi1Kenobi> need
[01:03] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, we wont touch XP just install ubuntu and it's bootloader will show XP for booting.
[01:04] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, so you under stand that we need to unmount all the partitions to change them using the live cd booted.
[01:04] <urlin2u> the 10 gig to a 9 gig ext4
[01:05] <Liquidsnakex> i see
[01:05] <Liquidsnakex> convert the 10 to ext4 you mean ?
[01:05] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, are you on the live cd you must be.
[01:05] <Liquidsnakex> i dont want to touch the other 2 partitions
[01:05] <Liquidsnakex> yes
[01:05] <Liquidsnakex> im using it now
[01:05] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, we wont I do this on my setup all the time I run W7.
[01:06] <urlin2u> and natty and others
[01:06] <Liquidsnakex> i see
[01:06] <Liquidsnakex> thanks alot man
[01:07] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, open the disk utility and unmount the extended sda2 and sda5
[01:10] <Liquidsnakex> yea i am trying to look for the unmount option
[01:11] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, are you in disk manager, just click the sda2, maybe the sda HD first to show it then sda2 the unmount then sda5 unmount.
[01:12] <Liquidsnakex> yea it just shows unmount for the sda5
[01:12] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, you will have to unmount sda2 first
[01:12] <urlin2u> it is the extended look close
[01:13] <Liquidsnakex> well there is not button for it urlin2u
[01:13] <Liquidsnakex> yea i know i can screenshot it for you to check urself
[01:14] <Liquidsnakex> http://imagebin.org/168014
[01:14] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, it will be above sda5 and sda6 they are inside of it in the partition picture window. you can open gparted again to see if the key is next to it=sdfa2.
[01:15] <urlin2u> sda2
[01:15] <Liquidsnakex> yes i can see it clearly urlin2u , thats not the point
[01:16] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, I understand, open gparted and look if there is a key on the sda2 line
[01:16] <Liquidsnakex> i cannot find unamount for the extended sda2 itself
[01:16] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, no problem we can just reboot and open nothing but gparted to be set.
[01:17] <urlin2u> that is easiest. ;)
[01:17] <Liquidsnakex> yea urlin2u there is one logical partition busy, that's why i cannot find unamount
[01:18] <Liquidsnakex> so shall i unamount that busy logical partition so the whol extended partition is not busy anymore ?
[01:18] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, no problem just reboot the live cd and then open gparted and look for the keys not being on the sda2 and sda5 and sda6 lines
[01:19] <Liquidsnakex> well rebooting takes a long time it's an old machine no other way :( ?
[01:19] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, not sure why it ios busy are you using any of those partitions?
[01:19] <Liquidsnakex> well now the moment i am talking to you i am using the live cd feature
[01:20] <Liquidsnakex> there must be a mistake i did ,right ?
[01:20] <urlin2u> are you using any of those partition say like playing music in sda5
[01:20] <Liquidsnakex> no nothing at all
[01:20] <Liquidsnakex> just this web browser ffirefox
[01:20] <Liquidsnakex> just this broswer gparted and disk utility
[01:22] <urlin2u> Liquidsnakex, I only feel comfortable with a reboot that extended should not be busy, try closing everything nothing shoud be running, except gparted for confirmation and disk utility for unmounting
[01:22] <Liquidsnakex> well sure urlin2u let me try it
[01:22] <Liquidsnakex> thanks alot
[01:22] <urlin2u> cose gparted turn off ff and open disk utiity
[01:22] <urlin2u> close
[01:23] <urlin2u> cose ecert=ything tehn open disk utility
[01:23] <Liquidsnakex> and close firefox too ?
[01:23] <urlin2u> close everything is what I meant sorry
[01:23] <urlin2u> yes
[01:23] <Liquidsnakex> alright no problems urlin2u going to try
[01:24] <urlin2u> using chatzilla I assume
[01:24] <urlin2u> now
[01:26] <Nubi1Kenobi> CrOnOs2000,  you around?
[01:27] <urlin2u> Nubi1Kenobi, have you tried the question in #ubuntu
[01:27] <Nubi1Kenobi> yeah
[01:27] <Nubi1Kenobi> same result
[01:27] <Nubi1Kenobi> nothing
[01:27] <nlsthzn_work> Well... if GParted found a disc mounted that it wants to modify it would warn you and ask if you would like to unmount it...
[01:27] <urlin2u> Nubi1Kenobi, takes a while sometimes if I new I woud help ;-)
[01:27] <CrOnOs2000> Nubi1Kenobi,  im here i was just setup my google+ count
[01:28] <urlin2u> yay
[01:28] <Nubi1Kenobi> urlin2u, thanks
[01:28] <urlin2u> no problem
[01:28] <Nubi1Kenobi> CrOnOs2000, i started to set mine up
[01:28] <Nubi1Kenobi> CrOnOs2000, have you used FSlint for anyting?
[01:29] <Nubi1Kenobi> CrOnOs2000, need some help with it
[01:29] <CrOnOs2000> sorry never tryed before
[01:30] <razorandnotso> Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me. I'm learning about ssh, but I'm having some problems. I'm running ubuntu 11.04 on a desktop and centos in virtualbox, and i'm trying to ssh into my mac that's on the same network
[01:30] <razorandnotso> centos is connected to the network, i've checked my router devices
[01:31] <liquidsnakex> urlin2u
[01:31] <razorandnotso> both oses get the same problem: they hang at connecting to the mac
[01:31] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, were you using chatzilla
[01:31] <liquidsnakex> i don't know but suddenly exclamation marks appeared beside sda1
[01:31] <liquidsnakex> no
[01:32] <liquidsnakex> this firefox web browser
[01:32] <urlin2u> in gparted?
[01:32] <liquidsnakex> yea
[01:32] <urlin2u> screen shot it
[01:32] <liquidsnakex> beside the windows partition a key and exclamation mark appeared
[01:33] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, you may need a chkdsk.
[01:33] <liquidsnakex> da** ....
[01:34] <liquidsnakex> but the disk utility says disk is healthy
[01:34] <liquidsnakex> http://imagebin.org/168022
[01:35] <nlsthzn_work> liquidsnakex: I wouldn't worry to much about that partition... you won't be touching it for this...
[01:35] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, so hard to say I'm assuming here, there is a right claick on partition in gparted then information do this with sda1, and see what it says
[01:36] <liquidsnakex> unable to find mount point unable to read the contents of this file system !
[01:36] <liquidsnakex> because some of these operations may be unavailable
[01:36] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, can you shutdown gparted open just the disk utiity and unmount sda1?
[01:37] <liquidsnakex> hey nltshzn_work
[01:37] <liquidsnakex> done urlin2u
[01:37] <liquidsnakex> then
[01:37] <liquidsnakex> ?
[01:37] <nlsthzn_work> urlin2u: AFAIK as soon as you use gparted to make changes and it first needs to unmount a partition it will prompt you... in this case I don't think it will...
[01:38] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, now delete the sda6 make a 9 gig ext4 then a 1 ggig swap next to it with gparted after closing the disk manager
[01:38] <urlin2u> nlsthzn_work, if I need your hep I wil ask commenting does not make this any easier bro.
[01:39] <nlsthzn_work> urlin2u: fair enough... lurk mode: ACTIVATED...
[01:39] <liquidsnakex> people please  don't fight or argue
[01:39] <urlin2u> nlsthzn_work, no problem but I'm a experienced user.
[01:40] <liquidsnakex> i just need your great experience and your assistance in this that's all
[01:40] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, no fighting just communicating. ;-)
[01:41] <liquidsnakex> done urlin2u
[01:41] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, give me another screenie.
[01:42] <liquidsnakex> http://imagebin.org/168027
[01:43] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, in that unallocated put a swap then take another screenshot so we know we are on the same page
[01:44] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, you have to run them to with the green check mark
[01:44] <liquidsnakex> how do i put a swap urlin2u ?
[01:44] <liquidsnakex> yea i noticed i should execute the commands i am doing
[01:44] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, the dropdown where you found the ext4 has a swap option just scroll
[01:45] <urlin2u> right click the unallocated add then choose swap.
[01:45] <liquidsnakex> well yea the unallocated dropdown menu is all grey and theres no option to choose swap
[01:46] <urlin2u> then click the green check mark to execute tis so we see partitions= sda6 and sda7
[01:46] <liquidsnakex> it's like unavailable
[01:46] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, cick the checkmark to run the delete and ext4 build first then
[01:47] <liquidsnakex> i clicked on the checkmark
[01:47] <liquidsnakex> and it succesffuly created that sda6 as ext4
[01:48] <liquidsnakex> the unallocated is still unallocated and i can't do anything in it
[01:48] <urlin2u> cool the swap option should be available now in the unallocated.
[01:48] <liquidsnakex> well it's not available :/
[01:48] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, do you see any keys is anything mounted
[01:49] <liquidsnakex> sorry nope
[01:49] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, give me another screenie
[01:49] <liquidsnakex> of Gparted or Disk utility ?
[01:50] <urlin2u> gparted, that is all that should be running by the way.
[01:50] <urlin2u> if you had the disk utility open that may be blocking the swap
[01:51] <liquidsnakex> i closed it, refresh the GParted and nothing new :/
[01:51] <urlin2u> if so close the disk utility and see if swap is available now
[01:51] <urlin2u> lest se a picture
[01:51] <liquidsnakex> your screenie
[01:51] <liquidsnakex> http://imagebin.org/168029
[01:52] <urlin2u> click new then swap
[01:52] <liquidsnakex> linux swap ?
[01:52] <urlin2u> the the green check to run
[01:52] <urlin2u> yes
[01:52] <urlin2u> thats the one
[01:53] <urlin2u> ;-)
[01:53] <urlin2u> you will get used to this then be helping others
[01:54] <urlin2u> give me a screenshot when you have the swap in place
[01:54] <liquidsnakex> http://imagebin.org/168033
[01:54] <liquidsnakex> thanks alot man
[01:55] <liquidsnakex> well i want to Install Ubuntu 11.04 on sda6 of course, so i should flag it bootable ?
[01:55] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, no problem your ready to install, we want to run the install stop at the screen shot that asks where
[01:55] <urlin2u> gui partitioning screen choice of where and tyoe
[01:55] <urlin2u> type
[01:55] <liquidsnakex> i see
[01:56] <urlin2u> we will choose the custom one at the bottom.
[01:56] <liquidsnakex> but i want to Install Ubuntu 11.04 on sda6 of course, so i should flag it boot ?
[01:56] <liquidsnakex> from the GParted ?
[01:56] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, no Ubuntu does not need a boot flag.
[01:56] <urlin2u> does not
[01:56] <liquidsnakex> well i want to put ubuntu 11.04 beside win xp ? don't forget that please
[01:57] <urlin2u> we will install to sda6 at the partitining choice area
[01:57] <urlin2u> sda6 right
[01:57] <liquidsnakex> i see, i will choose sda6 when it gives me the choices to the installation place right ?
[01:58] <urlin2u> close everything then hit the install  button  yeah it will be easy once we get there all partitions are listed there.
[01:58] <liquidsnakex> well yea but what about the mount point choices and the boot loader installation ?
[01:58] <liquidsnakex> i don't understand them
[01:58] <liquidsnakex> should i configure something in them or leave them ?
[01:59] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, I understand your concern that is done at the same partitioning are, I got your back bro.
[01:59] <urlin2u> araea
[01:59] <urlin2u> area
[01:59] <urlin2u> the partition choice for install and mount and bootis all in one place
[02:00] <liquidsnakex> yea so when i install ubuntu 11.04 on sda6 it will autom. boot or i should flag the sda6 partition as Boot ? like that Xp one ?
[02:00] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, no boot flag we will just make sure the Ubuntu boot goes to the HD mbr.
[02:01] <liquidsnakex> so now i should start installing ?
[02:01] <liquidsnakex> bbut this browser will be closed
[02:01] <liquidsnakex> :/
[02:01] <urlin2u> yep if everything is closed no keys showing in gparted you can hit install.
[02:01] <liquidsnakex> alright man
[02:01] <urlin2u> browser is okay
[02:01] <liquidsnakex> see you after it
[02:01] <liquidsnakex> thanks alot for your help
[02:02] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, hold on
[02:02] <liquidsnakex> i am here i am here
[02:02] <urlin2u> you need to do a ci=ustom insytall it is not automatic
[02:02] <liquidsnakex> i see you mean choose the advanced way ?
[02:02] <urlin2u> stay with me the browser can stay open, tell me when you get the gui that has options for install.
[02:03] <liquidsnakex> then choose sda6 , am i right ?
[02:03] <urlin2u> it will be the bottom choice
[02:03] <urlin2u> are you there yet
[02:03] <liquidsnakex> just a sec
[02:04] <urlin2u> we want our cart in front of the horse we are doing this systematically.
[02:04] <liquidsnakex> it's an old laptop, 2004/2005 can hear the dvdrom laser fighting ....
[02:05] <liquidsnakex> screenie http://imagebin.org/168034
[02:06] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, correct something else yo9u will do several things there first click on sda6 when you get there.
[02:06] <urlin2u> screen shots are great thanks
[02:07] <liquidsnakex> you are welcome man, i should be thanking you
[02:07] <liquidsnakex> gotta work my a$$ here to learn
[02:07] <urlin2u> hey this is what we do
[02:07] <urlin2u> let me know when you click sda6 another window will open
[02:08] <liquidsnakex> well something i am stuck in urlin2u
[02:08] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, what
[02:08] <liquidsnakex> http://imagebin.org/168035
[02:08] <liquidsnakex> what should i do about the "Device for boot loader installation" ?
[02:08] <liquidsnakex> leave the 1st choice, 2nd choice, or what please ?
[02:09] <urlin2u> choose dev/sda  this is the boot part you were asking about sda=the HD mbr
[02:09] <liquidsnakex> i see
[02:09] <urlin2u> master boot record is the mbr
[02:09] <urlin2u> never put grub in windows
[02:09] <liquidsnakex> so this won't destroy win xp right ?
[02:09] <urlin2u> nope
[02:09] <liquidsnakex> it wil leave the win xp boot as it is right ?
[02:10] <urlin2u> leave XP alobe and choose sda
[02:10] <liquidsnakex> so later i can choose between xp and ubuntu ?
[02:10] <urlin2u> alone
[02:10] <urlin2u> yes we need to do more in that window as well
[02:10] <liquidsnakex> i am just making sure man, this is my 1st ubuntu os to be honest ...
[02:10] <urlin2u> no problem
[02:11] <liquidsnakex> http://imagebin.org/168037
[02:11] <urlin2u> after choosing the dev/sda top line click on sda6
[02:11] <urlin2u> looks good
[02:11] <urlin2u> click sda6
[02:12] <liquidsnakex> so i choose s dev/sda6 for installation & ATA IC ... ? right ?
[02:12] <urlin2u> yep
[02:12] <liquidsnakex> okay i am ready
[02:12] <liquidsnakex> hit install man
[02:12] <urlin2u> then a widow will open more work there
[02:12] <liquidsnakex> i am afraid the laptop won't take it and die lol
[02:12] <liquidsnakex> shall i hit install now ?
[02:12] <urlin2u> yno
[02:12] <urlin2u> no
[02:12] <urlin2u> when you clicked sda6 did a window open?
[02:12] <liquidsnakex> i see
[02:13] <liquidsnakex> double clicked on sda6
[02:13] <liquidsnakex> yup
[02:13] <liquidsnakex> Edit Partiton window popped up
[02:13] <urlin2u> screenie so I can explain
[02:14] <liquidsnakex> http://imagebin.org/168038
[02:14] <liquidsnakex> screenie sir
[02:14] <urlin2u> we will edit correctly this is the format confo=irm and mount area.
[02:14] <liquidsnakex> yea man i am dying at this point really
[02:14] <urlin2u> first click use as and choose ext4 then click format keep it open.
[02:15] <liquidsnakex> done.
[02:15] <urlin2u> on the mount choose /
[02:15] <liquidsnakex> Mount point /boot  or " / " only ?
[02:15] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, /
[02:15] <urlin2u> om=nly
[02:15] <liquidsnakex> done
[02:16] <liquidsnakex> done doe
[02:16] <urlin2u> only
[02:16] <urlin2u> screenie would be good now
[02:16] <liquidsnakex> http://imagebin.org/168039
[02:17] <urlin2u> I have done this systematically to make sure you understand and we are on the same page. ;-)
[02:17] <liquidsnakex> thanks alot man
[02:17] <liquidsnakex> appreciate your assistance VERY MUCH
[02:18] <urlin2u> hit okay the screen will close and quickly reformat that sda6 partition no danger to XP then hit the go ahed install whatever the next is
[02:18] <liquidsnakex> alright man
[02:18] <liquidsnakex> i hope and pray it won't kill the laptop
[02:18] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, you have got it you will be asked for a name a password at some point
[02:18] <liquidsnakex> it's old enough, feelin ubuntu 11.04 is a hot chick ridin an old guy (my laptop) rofl
[02:19] <urlin2u> lol
[02:19] <liquidsnakex> sure urlin2u no problems
[02:19] <liquidsnakex> haha
[02:19] <urlin2u> the other stayed with us till now nlsthzn_work
[02:20] <liquidsnakex> nlsthzn_work i think he is busy or away
[02:20] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, so once your installed reboot to Ubuntu first.
[02:20] <urlin2u> I will be here the install will probably take about 20 min
[02:22] <liquidsnakex> i am in the keyboard layout
[02:22] <urlin2u> cool
[02:22] <liquidsnakex> the laptop is pretty busy responding in a diffuclt manner
[02:22] <urlin2u> probably the cd reader
[02:23] <liquidsnakex> yea man, i bought it second hand :/
[02:23] <urlin2u> do you have a xp cd you will want one in the future
[02:23] <urlin2u> for safety if needed for repairs
[02:23] <liquidsnakex> yea i have one
[02:23] <urlin2u> cool
[02:23] <liquidsnakex> sure man that's a positive
[02:24] <urlin2u> always have the right tools is what I mean. ;-)
[02:24] <liquidsnakex> sure i totally get you
[02:24] <liquidsnakex> im currently in the who are you ? installation page
[02:24] <Beav3r> Hello all. I'm a total new ubuntu user. I am having a problem with getting a ndiswapper-installed pci wireless adapter to work. In nm-list it's showing up correctly after installing ndiswapper now but in the windicator the wifi isn't showing up. It's a linksys WDM300n. Anyone have any ideas?
[02:25] <liquidsnakex> another poor fella ...
[02:25] <urlin2u> once this is all done and booted to ubuntu to run a grub-update and all you may want to run a chkldsk on XP as well.
[02:25] <urlin2u> chkdsk
[02:26] <liquidsnakex> well urlin2u i just want to see ubuntu 11.04 successffully installed and bootable as well as that option of choosing winxp or ubuntu is working too
[02:26] <liquidsnakex> and yea i have read what you are telling me in some forums
[02:27] <liquidsnakex> to check the integrity of both systems and thanks alot man for mentioning it
[02:27] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, the no file seen in XP may be a anomaly we will see if you can open it from ubuntu when you reboot.
[02:27] <liquidsnakex> what's the no file seen ?
[02:27] <liquidsnakex> you mean that i cannot see anything when ubuntu is installed because of xp ?
[02:27] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, you should be running a chkdsk on occasion anyway, depending on how much you use xp
[02:28] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, gparted and the red dot said it couldn't read XP, no big deal this happens could be a anomaly
[02:28] <liquidsnakex> i am a bit worried now ...
[02:29] <urlin2u> you have done nothing wrong don't worry
[02:29] <liquidsnakex> perhaps because xp is an a$$h*le :D ?
[02:29] <liquidsnakex> i see
[02:29] <liquidsnakex> lol ...
[02:30] <liquidsnakex> when i tell my friends about ubuntu 11.04 they make fun of me and start sayin freeky geeky :S:S:S
[02:30] <liquidsnakex> i dunno , is it much fun paying $$ for unstable os such as vista, then win7 ...
[02:31] <urlin2u> the screen shots of gparted with everything unmounted showed X Pto be there
[02:31] <liquidsnakex> yea i understand
[02:31] <urlin2u> I got W7 for cheap as a college student
[02:31] <urlin2u> much safer as well
[02:31] <liquidsnakex> well here man it costs some what much ...
[02:32] <liquidsnakex> .... egypt ....
[02:32] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, you heading for college soon, or been there?
[02:32] <liquidsnakex> yea man im in college now
[02:32] <liquidsnakex> 2nd year business administration
[02:33] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, you can get windows for free maybe or like 25$ us like me
[02:33] <liquidsnakex> well yea i understand you i tried to look for student version, but guess what, they just make copy out of an original disc ! wtf you know !
[02:33] <urlin2u> W7 server for free
[02:34] <urlin2u> student version is regular purchase I have w7 pro
[02:34] <liquidsnakex> i am in egypt my friend not usa ...
[02:34] <urlin2u> mdsnn or something like that
[02:34] <liquidsnakex> yea the supported stuff for college people to fight piracy and so ...
[02:35] <urlin2u> you just need the key for the version you want, you can get the ISO, and dvd's with the msdnn purchase
[02:35] <urlin2u> are things getting more stable there?
[02:35] <liquidsnakex> yea but didn't work, those mtfkers steal everything , everything even USAID stuff we should receive ...
[02:36] <liquidsnakex> yea it's currently retrieving stuff i think updating of course, the router LED is blinking
[02:36] <liquidsnakex> 9 of 30
[02:36] <liquidsnakex> u live in usa urlin2u ?
[02:37] <urlin2u> pacific NW Oregon
[02:37] <liquidsnakex> nice
[02:37] <liquidsnakex> i am egypt, cairo
[02:37] <liquidsnakex> and honestly i don't own a camel or a tent :D lol
[02:38] <liquidsnakex> jk
[02:38] <urlin2u> beautiful area hours from the ocean to the mountains for skiing.  Don't worry no false cultural images here. ;-)
[02:39] <liquidsnakex> yea man of course fun is 100% guaranteed there unlike here
[02:39] <liquidsnakex> protests and demonstrations, curfew , army inspections army road blocks
[02:39] <urlin2u> as long as your part of the dominant white culture basically.
[02:40] <liquidsnakex> lol yea man
[02:40] <liquidsnakex> actually i am an armenian too
[02:40] <liquidsnakex> but ended up in egypt :'(
[02:40] <urlin2u> part native american and who knows what else here.
[02:41] <liquidsnakex> it's like living among 80 million bin laden rofl
[02:41] <liquidsnakex> yea man
[02:41] <urlin2u> his diatribe was not all wrong but the actions were.
[02:42] <liquidsnakex> diatribe ? im sorry don't understand this word
[02:42] <urlin2u> killing anybody even your own is wrong
[02:42] <urlin2u> rhetoric
[02:42] <liquidsnakex> thanks
[02:42] <urlin2u> beliefs
[02:42] <liquidsnakex> yea got it
[02:42] <liquidsnakex> thanks man i am just exhausted it's like 4:20 am here haven't slept all day
[02:43] <Nubi1Kenobi> hey, in terminal mode.......need to find the path of a network drive
[02:43] <Nubi1Kenobi> any help?
[02:43] <urlin2u> the world is not a pretty place nobody has all if it correct, you will sleep after this.
[02:43] <liquidsnakex> yea man absolutely right
[02:43] <urlin2u> Nubi1Kenobi, have you tried the #ubuntu channel?
[02:43] <bazhang> getting offtopic here..
[02:43] <Nubi1Kenobi> well, i am still a beginner
[02:43] <urlin2u> I would help if I could
[02:43] <Nubi1Kenobi> i do not think that is off topic....
[02:44] <urlin2u> nop problem it is for evceryone
[02:44] <urlin2u> Nubi1Kenobi, your using ubuntu it is okay
[02:45] <Nubi1Kenobi> I disagree
[02:45] <Nubi1Kenobi> anyways.........
[02:45] <urlin2u> with what?
[02:45] <Nubi1Kenobi> You.
[02:45] <urlin2u> okay
[02:46] <urlin2u> bazhang, sorry about that
[02:49] <liquidsnakex> urlin2u it says downloading languages packs and a timer like 88:29
[02:49] <liquidsnakex> man
[02:49] <liquidsnakex> i will die like that
[02:50] <liquidsnakex> clicking skip is bad ?
[02:50] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, probably will speed up the main thing is on the reboot go to ubuntu, and run a update, and a in the terminal sudo update-grub
[02:50] <urlin2u> I wouldn't click skip took alot of work to get here.
[02:51] <liquidsnakex> no no that's for "the language packs" man
[02:51] <liquidsnakex> are you focusing or you are tired
[02:51] <urlin2u> your choice I wouldn't
[02:51] <liquidsnakex> skipping language packs is bad :/ ?
[02:52] <liquidsnakex> concentrate here man leave the reefer for the party :D
[02:52] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, hard to say but, all I can say is I wouldn't
[02:54] <liquidsnakex> ouch man
[02:54] <liquidsnakex> 1 hour for downloading packages
[02:54] <liquidsnakex> seems i will sleep and let it work :/
[02:55] <urlin2u> liquidsnakex, yu could do that it will hold when done with a reboot prompt
[02:55] <liquidsnakex> i am sorry but what i can do it ?
[02:55] <liquidsnakex> take a nap ?
[02:56] <urlin2u> do what you want
[02:56] <liquidsnakex> 113:13 remaning :(
[02:56] <liquidsnakex> this timer is ...
[02:56] <liquidsnakex> well i will sleep and let it on
[02:56] <liquidsnakex> what else will happen man after the installation ? reboot then ?
[02:57] <urlin2u> yes reboot to ubuntu run the update then in the terminal run sudo update-grub
[02:57] <liquidsnakex> well thanks i will write that down
[02:57] <urlin2u> the terminal will ask for a password you wont see it when typing
[02:58] <liquidsnakex> well what pw ? my pw ?
[02:58] <urlin2u> look at the power manager and make sur it is not set for any shutdowns.
[02:59] <urlin2u> you put a password with your user name?
[03:00] <liquidsnakex> yes
[03:01] <urlin2u> that is the password for everything when asked for one
[03:01] <liquidsnakex> nice
[03:01] <urlin2u> can be changed if needed.
[03:01] <liquidsnakex> no problems
[03:01] <liquidsnakex> i will crash now man very tired
[03:01] <liquidsnakex> thanks alot for your assistance appreciate it and appreciate all your effort
[03:02] <urlin2u> you set then, check that your computer will not shutdown in the power manager if you haven't already.
[03:02] <liquidsnakex> gonna leave the webpage open
[03:02] <liquidsnakex> i did i did
[03:02] <liquidsnakex> of course
[03:02] <liquidsnakex> nothing will shutdown
[03:02] <urlin2u> no problem, come back as needed.;-)
[03:02] <liquidsnakex> thanks alot man
[03:02] <liquidsnakex> hope this works
[03:02] <urlin2u> ;-)
[03:02] <liquidsnakex> or i will shift myself really
[03:02] <liquidsnakex> lol
[03:03] <urlin2u> you will see XP in the boot menu just go there after booting ti Ubuntu and running the update and update-grub
[03:03] <urlin2u> to
[03:04] <liquidsnakex> isnt there any xzibit guy to pimp computers ...
[03:04] <liquidsnakex> i see
[03:29] <sluckxz> is there a way to apt-get purge everything back to the core install?
[03:35] <urlin2u> sluckxz,  don't think so; what is the problem?
[03:38] <sluckxz> just want to go back and try again.
[03:39] <sluckxz> is there a way to run tasksel standard and remove everything else?
[03:40] <urlin2u> not familiar with debian commands personally.
[03:41] <urlin2u> problem with the purge idea is that you haven't named what you have done, or answerd what the problem is.
[03:42] <sluckxz> i loaded a few desktops i want removed xfce and lxde
[03:42] <sluckxz> just want to start over at a core system like the old ubuntu server version and try again
[03:43] <sluckxz> no big problem.  im unhappy with performance
[03:46] <urlin2u> that is fixable look on the web for removing the desktops you can get a list off all there packages. Or just reinstall.
[03:46] <bazhang> sluckxz, try the !puregnome !purekde !purelxde links, just dont install the ubuntu-desktop or whatever at the end
[03:46] <sluckxz> thanks bazhang
[03:47] <bazhang> welcome
[03:47] <bazhang> !purelxde
[03:47] <ubot2> If you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde »
[03:47] <bazhang> whoops
[03:47] <bazhang> all the links are there ^
[03:47] <urlin2u> psychocats is the place for sure
[03:48] <sluckxz> cool ill start with the cats.  thanks
[04:06] <Geodude> Er, I did something bad :( I kept getting an error in wine that had something to do with winmm.dll, so I went into winecfg and disabled it. Now when I try to open winecfg I get err:module:import_dll Library winmm.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\winecfg.exe") not found
[04:07] <Geodude> and winecfg won't open. So, how do I enable winmm.dll if I can't open winecfg?
[04:07] <bazhang> Geodude, #winehq for that
[04:07] <Geodude> They won't answer my question in newb form, though. And then they'll yell at me for not understanding them.
[04:08] <holstein> i dont use wine much like that anymore, but i remember throwing .wine away a lot and starting over
[04:08] <Geodude> I hadn't thought of that.
[04:10] <Geodude> How do I do the thing where I make a new/clean .wine folder/registry/winecfg?
[04:22] <holstein> Geodude: i remember just trashing it, and generating a new one when winecfg started
[04:22] <holstein> something tricky i was using... slingplayer? something odd like that... i dont do it anymore
[04:40] <Geodude> Got it. Thanks a ton holstein :)
[05:06] <Beav3r> My 11.04 system is hanging at a purple screen after re-installation. Can anyone help me out?
[05:11] <Beav3r> The HDD light is off and hitting esc brings me to a black screen with a cursor. The virtual console runs fine though
[05:39] <holstein> Beever: i would look at the graphics driver... i would try running the CD live using the 'nomodeset' option
[05:41] <urlin2u> holstein, how is it going.
[05:42] <holstein> urlin2u: not bad
[05:42] <urlin2u> holstein, good deal just saying hi. ;-)
[05:43] <holstein> its late, and i cant sleep, but i think im going to try again :)
[05:43] <urlin2u> I hate when that happens. ;(
[06:02] <Geodude> Is there some easy way launch winecfg for separate prefixes? Like, an icon. Instead of having to type WINEPREFIX=/home/geo/.wine-games winecfg in a terminal every time?
[06:03] <holstein> Geodude: you might be able to make an icon on the desktop... a lanucher with 'app in terminal' as an option
[06:03] <holstein> i havent tried with wine commands like that though
[06:03] <Geodude> Tried that, it fails to launch. big red thing on my terminal.
[06:03] <holstein> Geodude: what thing?
[06:03] <Geodude> FAILSAUCE D:
[06:03] <Geodude> Okay it didn't say failsauce.
[06:03] <bioterror> holstein, how about alias
[06:03] <Geodude> There was an error creating the child process for this terminal
[06:03] <holstein> bioterror: i like it :)
[06:03] <Geodude> Failed to execute child process "WINEPREFIX=/home/geo/.wine" (No such file or directory)
[06:04] <holstein> Geodude: try what bioterror is suggesting
[06:04] <bioterror> !alias
[06:04] <ubot2> Factoid 'alias' not found
[06:04] <bioterror> :o
[06:04] <Geodude> D:
[06:04] <bioterror> make two aliases
[06:04]  * Geodude googles.
[06:04] <bioterror> winegame and winenormal
[06:04] <bioterror> or something
[06:05] <bioterror> when you want to play games, you way winegame and it will change the prefix
[06:05] <bioterror> say
[06:05] <Geodude> :/ Alias (TV series 2001-2006) - IMDb
[06:05] <bioterror> :D
[06:05] <bioterror> alias ls='ls --color=always'
[06:05] <bioterror> for example
[06:06] <Geodude> D:
[06:06] <bioterror> when I say ls, it will perform command ls --color=always
[06:06] <bioterror> add that to /etc/bash.bashrc
[06:06]  * Geodude stares into space.
[06:06] <Geodude> You're saying words at me and I appreciate that, really. But I have no idea what you are saying. lol.
[06:06] <Geodude> let me google for a minute and see if I can figure out what an alias is.
[06:06] <bioterror> http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/aliases.html
[06:07] <Geodude> or that, thanks :]
[06:08] <Geodude> Yeah this is not in engish.
[06:08] <Geodude> English, either.
[06:08] <bioterror> Geodude, what's the command you say in terminal
[06:08] <bioterror> I assumed you used terminal
[06:13] <Geodude> I did it! :D I'm a linux guru!!!
[06:13] <holstein> Geodude: :)
[06:13] <Geodude> geo@Geo-Ubuntu:~$ alias winecfgDDO='WINEPREFIX=/home/geo/.wine-DDO winecfg'
[06:16] <bioterror> now add that alias..... line to your /etc/bash.bashrc
[06:16] <Geodude> my what now?
[06:17] <bioterror> !filesystem
[06:17] <ubot2> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview  see also: man hier
[06:17] <Geodude> I don't have a bash.bashrc in my /etc folder
[06:18] <bioterror> how that's possible :o
[06:18] <bioterror> is it /etc/profile then
[06:18] <Geodude> profile is not a directory
[06:20] <Geodude> profile.d has a bash_completion.sh in it?
[06:20] <Geodude> /etc/profile.d/bash_completion.sh
[06:24] <bioterror> no
[06:24] <bioterror> that's for completion
[06:27] <Geodude> There's really no way to have something just type a command in a terminal?
[06:29] <Geodude> I'm trying to get gnomeDO to do it but it refuses to bring up the terminal option. D:
[06:35] <philipballew> how would i add another irc sevrer besides freenode?
[06:36] <bioterror> check your irc clients documentation
[06:36] <Geodude> It depends which client you're using.
[06:36] <bioterror> for example irssi has guide
[06:36] <philipballew> i use xchat currently. probably easy
[06:37] <Geodude> ctrl+s
[06:38] <philipballew> alright, gonna add irc.gamesurge.net
[06:38] <philipballew> should be easy for me
[06:55] <urlin2u> philipballew, got the dude installed you were helping earlier. ;)
[06:56] <philipballew> urlin2u, nice! what was his problem? it seemed he didnt really have one
[06:56] <philipballew> i remember i had to go to drive an hour, when i got there i open my laptop and your still talkin
[06:56] <urlin2u> philipballew, just a little scared opf damaging XP we just did a systematic install with screenshots.
[06:57] <philipballew> and he did not damage i assume
[06:57] <urlin2u> took awhile but thats okay I wanted them to understand the mount and boot questions
[06:58] <urlin2u> I doubt it they crashed the language pack was a real slow download, every thing was correct.
[06:58] <philipballew> i was unsure all he was askin. seemed like he was over-complacating it
[06:58] <urlin2u> crashed=sleep
[06:58] <urlin2u> yeah it happens with beginners.
[06:59] <philipballew> watch as he now just whipes xp
[06:59] <philipballew> i would if i was him
[07:00] <urlin2u> It will happen probably once using a open source for awhile, I started with OS so windows is like playing pong for me .
[07:00] <urlin2u> relatively that is
[07:01] <urlin2u> you and holstein did a lot of help so it was nice to see it done.
[07:01] <philipballew> i think he was on a few days ago
[07:02] <urlin2u> yeah I lurk mostly with great helpers I don't really chime in generally
[07:03] <philipballew> holstein, is easily the best helper on here
[07:03] <urlin2u> that is for sure. ;-)
[07:04] <urlin2u> sainthood compared to me
[07:04] <philipballew> experance maybe
[07:04] <urlin2u> patience is a virtue, and exsperience.
[07:05] <philipballew> how long you been usin ubuntu
[07:08] <urlin2u> philipballew, about since dapper 4-5 years
[07:08] <urlin2u> I have tried all the big ones as well
[07:08] <philipballew> nice, i started with 7.10
[07:08] <philipballew> i use debian to
[07:09] <philipballew> ran open suse for a while
[07:09] <urlin2u> i like ubuntu for general ease of travel, I checked out the live opensuse looks nice thinking of installing.
[07:10] <urlin2u> p[inguyos is not bad as well.
[07:10] <urlin2u> pinguyos
[07:11] <urlin2u> easy install with all the codecs need, which I'm so used to installing doesn't matter but not a bad OS.
[07:12] <philipballew> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras or something
[07:12] <urlin2u> exactly
[07:12] <urlin2u> a little trickier in fedora and arch but arch has the best wiki's
[07:14] <philipballew> never tried arch. worth it?
[07:17] <urlin2u> arch is not bad the beginners install page is perfectly setuo.
[07:17] <urlin2u> setup
[07:18] <philipballew> they really want you to read it
[07:19] <urlin2u> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Official_Arch_Linux_Install_Guide   it will get you installed perfectly, when I tried it the first time I had not relized that basically linux ix linux.
[07:19] <urlin2u> is
[07:19] <philipballew> how so
[07:20] <urlin2u> most of the linux releases are really running most of the same basic underlying setups with small differences.
[07:21] <philipballew> it is very true, file systems are all the same
[07:21] <urlin2u> kind of a generalization but not far off
[07:21] <urlin2u> mine that is
[07:21] <urlin2u> brand loyalty always makes me rofl
[07:23] <philipballew> ubuntu rocks!!!
[07:24] <urlin2u> I'm a pseudo power user really, I have a interests in open source but many others not in computers
[07:24] <urlin2u> I like ubuntu though I'm most used to it.
[07:24] <philipballew> its easy
[07:25] <urlin2u> even easier now, people will stop complaining after awhile.
[07:25] <urlin2u> unity big deal I had the cug-be spinning befor release.
[07:25] <urlin2u> cube
[07:26] <philipballew> can I but the cube on unity?
[07:27] <urlin2u> yeah, it losses the widow button line at times but another user turned me onto another app which does all that the fusion plugin did and more.
[07:29] <urlin2u> used this link the key is have a re-starter for compiz when your setting it up, as it looks bad.
[07:29] <urlin2u> http://reformedmusings.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/howto-get-the-compiz-desktop-cube-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-and-unity/
[07:30] <philipballew> do you like unity?
[07:30] <urlin2u> you can install the fusion icon and make a launcher in the desky=top clicking it restarts compiz, then install the app I mentioned it will sit in the top panel I will get you a link hold on
[07:31] <urlin2u> I like it, but use synapse and docky with it
[07:33] <urlin2u> here is the better than fusion icon app I just made a launcher on the desktop, then dragged it to the panel, and it appeared in the top panel, still there even after removing the launcher, it autostarts    http://en.sourceforge.jp/projects/sfnet_displex/releases/
[07:34] <philipballew> 11.10 looks nice
[07:35] <philipballew> what does this do?
[07:35] <urlin2u> http://imagebin.org/168060   I have it installed yeah, here is natty, I had the cube in Oneiric until today I haven't tweaked it back yet
[07:38] <urlin2u> the app I posted gives all the fusion icon stuff here is a image of the controls top right  http://imagebin.org/168061
[07:38] <urlin2u> kill switch I love
[07:39] <philipballew> so this gives me indactor applets in unity?
[07:39] <philipballew> nice!
[07:40] <urlin2u> just that one the others are a cpu switch, I think from a OMGubuntu page.
[07:40] <urlin2u> clipit as well in system, the weather is a dd on from the OMG
[07:40] <philipballew> i've been looking to get indactor applets on unity. how did you?
[07:41] <urlin2u> some work some don't I forget which all are ppa's  believe  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/tag/indicatorapplets/
[07:43] <urlin2u> I just searched with panel applets panel unity and tweaked from various web pages.
[07:43] <urlin2u> panel applets unity and variations
[07:43] <urlin2u> or natty
[07:45] <urlin2u> displex was the best score though a user on #ubuntu turned me onto it.
[07:46] <philipballew> hum. so all those indactor applets area sepereate install?
[07:47] <urlin2u> some worked for me some didn't I forget which ones, and I used other web pages as well, did it awhile ago, so I can't remember exactly.
[07:48] <urlin2u> I have ubuntu tweak which will purge ppa's so wont doesn't work can be removed easily.
[07:48] <urlin2u> what
[07:48] <urlin2u> separate ppa's as I remember
[07:49] <urlin2u> I have to much free time. ;-)
[07:51] <philipballew> urlin2u, as do I!!!
[07:55] <urlin2u> I'm rather addicted to this computer stuff, I have learned all this while attending college, as a middle aged return to academia, been a whole lot of fun didn't use computers till needing one to write papers.
[07:56] <urlin2u> just happened to come across a recycler that relesed the computer with open source I was trying to save money I had no clue how helpful it would turn out to be.
[08:01] <philipballew> but now your here and loving it!
[08:02] <urlin2u> yeah a good community, if you can keep your personal cool.
[08:08] <philipballew> ive seen it get heated in here several times
[08:13] <urlin2u> It gets hilarious as far as peoples ego's, present company myself included.
[08:17] <urlin2u> at #ubuntu that is
[11:26] <N00b1E> hi all.. i've just installed vmware player on ubuntu 11.04.. i get the followin msg: "kernel headers for 2.6.38-8-generic we not found ..."
[11:27] <N00b1E> hi all.. i've just installed vmware player on ubuntu 11.04.. i get the followin msg: "kernel headers for 2.6.38-8-generic we not found ..."
[11:28] <bioterror> N00b1E, install kernel headers
[11:28] <N00b1E> bioterror, how do i do so
[11:30] <bioterror> was it: sudo apt-get install kernel-headers
[11:32] <N00b1E> nope
[11:32] <N00b1E> i think it's this : http://ubuntuguide.net/ubuntu-11-04-upgrade-linux-kernel-to-2-6-39-0
[11:33] <bioterror> I dont have ubuntu machine near me atm. so I cant apt-cache search ;)
[11:33] <bioterror> nor I cant ssh to one ;)
[11:45] <geirha> You can "apt-cache search" at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[14:18] <E3D3> Hi all. I made Conkeror my default browser (Menu>Settings>etc) but every documents opens in a new window. How can I change it that it open new doc's in the same window?
[15:32] <kristian_bus> hi all
[19:19] <Kathrin> Hello everyone!
[19:19] <nlsthzn_work> Hi again Kathrin :)
[19:19] <philipballew> hey!
[19:20] <philipballew> sound still workin Kathrin ?
[19:20]  * nlsthzn_work waves @ philipballew ... the saviour of the sound
[19:21] <Kathrin> Yes its working great :-) I'm currently listening to music! :D
[19:21] <philipballew> oh nice. what music!
[19:21] <Kathrin> Sounds so much better than with speakers
[19:21] <Kathrin> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOR_JVXzqqU
[19:22]  * philipballew tells nathan i only know because I have had to many sound issues myself
[19:22] <philipballew> *nlsthzn
[19:22] <philipballew> nlsthzn, you did alot to!
[19:23]  * philipballew is super tired
[19:23] <Kathrin> Why are you tired?
[19:24] <philipballew> Kathrin, quite dance able music I see. i onl got like 4 hours sleep last night. was at a burger joint all night
[19:24] <philipballew> called in in out
[19:25] <Kathrin> whats a burger joint?
[19:27] <Kathrin> My dictionary says something about joint but I don't think that's what you mean
[19:27] <nlsthzn_work> Kathrin: like McDonalds
[19:27] <Kathrin> Oops
[19:27] <Kathrin> ?
[19:27] <nlsthzn_work> a place to get food
[19:27] <nlsthzn_work> In this case Burgers :)
[19:29] <Kathrin_> Got kicked. Yes I know McDonald's :-) The "?" was for the "Oops" :D
[19:29] <Kathrin_> Oh I#m twice in here.
[19:30] <nlsthzn_work> Double dose of Kathrin_ :p
[19:30] <nlsthzn_work> your old self will go away soon and then you can change your name back to just Kathrin
[19:30] <Kathrin_> Even one is too much :-)
[19:30] <Kathrin_> Oh ok.
[19:31] <nlsthzn_work> have to wait for that name to "time out"
[19:31] <nlsthzn_work> the system doesn't know your not here anymore :p
[19:31] <Kathrin_> Ok.
[19:31] <Kathrin_> :-)
[19:31] <Kathrin_> Stupid system.
[19:31] <nlsthzn_work> So Ubuntu treating you OK or do you have a problem?
[19:32] <nlsthzn_work> see, there you go :p
[19:32] <Kathrin_> No everything fine :-)
[19:32] <Kathrin_> How can I change my name?
[19:33] <nlsthzn_work> Cool... what I could suggest if you just want to chat and hang out is to join #ubuntu-begginers -team... when this channel gets busy they may frown on just "socializing"
[19:33] <nlsthzn_work> What client are you using?
[19:34] <Kathrin_> Oh I see. But you're in that too, aren't you?
[19:34] <Kathrin_> I just clicked a link to come here.
[19:36] <nlsthzn_work> Kathrin_: are you using your browser to be here?
[19:36] <Kathrin_> yes
[19:37] <nlsthzn_work> well for Linux you can install dedicated software for IRC, so you can be in many rooms etc...
[19:37] <nlsthzn_work> but webchat can too...
[19:38] <nlsthzn_work> type /join #ubuntu-beginners-team and press enter ;)
[19:38] <Kathrin_> Oh ok
[19:38] <nlsthzn_work> also, you can type /nick Katherine to change your name :)