[00:31] hey holstein ! [00:31] i am in a problem please help me man ! [00:31] hey philipballew [00:33] whats your problem Liquidsnakex [00:33] i want to put ubuntu 11.04 with win xp, and have them both functional and bootable, [00:33] i don't understand what is mount point and boot loader installation [00:34] are you using the graphical install? [00:34] i am installing from the cd [00:35] and i freed 10 giga 9 for the ubuntu and 1 for the swap area is this correct ? [00:35] the installer should do that all for you. just choose the duel boot option and select how much you want for each system [00:36] well there is a problem, the ubuntu installer takes from drive D: which is almost full and i use it and don't want it to get smaller [00:36] so i cut 10 giga from C: because it's empty & i want to put ubuntu 11.04 on that empty new partition [00:37] then install it on there. http://blog.sudobits.com/2011/04/23/how-to-install-ubuntu-11-04-from-usb-or-cd/ [00:37] yes but what should i do choose for the Mount point and the boot loader installation ? [00:38] it shiuld do that automaticly. if in doubt chose the ubuntu partition [00:39] well i am sorry but it doesn't seem to do that auto. [00:40] are you using the regular installer? [00:40] * philipballew has never duel booted [00:41] ouch ... [00:41] what? [00:41] yea i am using the normal installation method , putting cd iso, choose install ubuntu, then i get stuck at that point which i want to install ubuntu on a specific partition i freed it [00:41] could I suggest a screen shot of gparted looking at the HD ;) [00:42] urlin2u what's the gparted ? sorry not good with abbreviations [00:42] * nlsthzn_work can see a photo of a screen being uploaded shortly... [00:43] Liquidsnakex, gparted is a partitioner on the live ubuntu cd. [00:43] g stands for gnome [00:43] thanks folks [00:43] well i will do it right away how to send it to you to check it ? [00:44] someone will see it yes [00:44] Liquidsnakex, image bin attach it then post the http address http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add [00:45] well wait a urlin2u please, i cannot go to the installation process and capture a screenshot at the same time [00:46] gparted is not part of the install [00:46] Liquidsnakex, my suggestion is to it first to make sure what your doing is correct. [00:46] i am just confused about the Moint Point and boot loader installation i need to understand them so i can install ubuntu 11.04 without any problems [00:47] excellent advice here but some stuff is not known for example how many partitions now as in primaries [00:47] i gtg. off to davis lug meeting [00:47] i am searching for about 3 hours for them and there is not sufficiant data or info about them [00:47] i see [00:48] i had 2 partitons C & D . on C windows xp, i created a new partition E 10 giga, logical one i guess [00:48] open gparted [00:48] take screenshot [00:48] :) [00:53] processing [00:54] http://imagebin.org/168011 [00:54] thanks philipballew [00:54] where is holstein and nlsthzn_work [00:55] * nlsthzn_work lurks in the shadows [00:56] Liquidsnakex, the 10 gig partion is a ntfs is that where you wanted the Ubuntu? [00:57] yes urlin2u [00:57] i will of course format it to ext4 for ubuntu 11.04 [00:58] Liquidsnakex, so ubuntu would be a ext4 how much ram do you have? [00:58] cool you know the ext type [00:58] 1 GB [00:58] yea urlin2u i have been doing some reading so i don't waste time here [00:58] cool so with gparted, make a 9 gig ext4 and a swap after it, from the live cd. [00:59] i am just stuck at those points of : Mouting point and boot loader installation what does it mean it's confusing me that's all [00:59] Liquidsnakex, no problem I can help you there, we wil build the partitions then custom instal and go through that. ;-) [01:00] urlin2u, you have to be on the live cd though with no keys showing which means mounted [01:00] thanks urlin2u [01:01] no probem both the other helpers are awesome, but not here at the moment [01:01] ouch [01:01] well if you could just explain to me what does those mean the mount point and boot loader installatio [01:01] * nlsthzn_work has faith in urlin2u ability to get this done... [01:02] i just want to make the laptop able to dual boot both xp and ubuntu 11.04 [01:02] Liquidsnakex, thats easy, the grub bootoader wil pick up XP. [01:02] so shall i leave it as xp because it's not the "default" by the way [01:03] ned to make fslint see my NAS drive.....not sure how [01:03] need [01:03] Liquidsnakex, we wont touch XP just install ubuntu and it's bootloader will show XP for booting. [01:04] Liquidsnakex, so you under stand that we need to unmount all the partitions to change them using the live cd booted. [01:04] the 10 gig to a 9 gig ext4 [01:05] i see [01:05] convert the 10 to ext4 you mean ? [01:05] Liquidsnakex, are you on the live cd you must be. [01:05] i dont want to touch the other 2 partitions [01:05] yes [01:05] im using it now [01:05] Liquidsnakex, we wont I do this on my setup all the time I run W7. [01:06] and natty and others [01:06] i see [01:06] thanks alot man [01:07] Liquidsnakex, open the disk utility and unmount the extended sda2 and sda5 [01:10] yea i am trying to look for the unmount option [01:11] Liquidsnakex, are you in disk manager, just click the sda2, maybe the sda HD first to show it then sda2 the unmount then sda5 unmount. [01:12] yea it just shows unmount for the sda5 [01:12] Liquidsnakex, you will have to unmount sda2 first [01:12] it is the extended look close [01:13] well there is not button for it urlin2u [01:13] yea i know i can screenshot it for you to check urself [01:14] http://imagebin.org/168014 [01:14] Liquidsnakex, it will be above sda5 and sda6 they are inside of it in the partition picture window. you can open gparted again to see if the key is next to it=sdfa2. [01:15] sda2 [01:15] yes i can see it clearly urlin2u , thats not the point [01:16] Liquidsnakex, I understand, open gparted and look if there is a key on the sda2 line [01:16] i cannot find unamount for the extended sda2 itself [01:16] Liquidsnakex, no problem we can just reboot and open nothing but gparted to be set. [01:17] that is easiest. ;) [01:17] yea urlin2u there is one logical partition busy, that's why i cannot find unamount [01:18] so shall i unamount that busy logical partition so the whol extended partition is not busy anymore ? [01:18] Liquidsnakex, no problem just reboot the live cd and then open gparted and look for the keys not being on the sda2 and sda5 and sda6 lines [01:19] well rebooting takes a long time it's an old machine no other way :( ? [01:19] Liquidsnakex, not sure why it ios busy are you using any of those partitions? [01:19] well now the moment i am talking to you i am using the live cd feature [01:20] there must be a mistake i did ,right ? [01:20] are you using any of those partition say like playing music in sda5 [01:20] no nothing at all [01:20] just this web browser ffirefox [01:20] just this broswer gparted and disk utility [01:22] Liquidsnakex, I only feel comfortable with a reboot that extended should not be busy, try closing everything nothing shoud be running, except gparted for confirmation and disk utility for unmounting [01:22] well sure urlin2u let me try it [01:22] thanks alot [01:22] cose gparted turn off ff and open disk utiity [01:22] close [01:23] cose ecert=ything tehn open disk utility [01:23] and close firefox too ? [01:23] close everything is what I meant sorry [01:23] yes [01:23] alright no problems urlin2u going to try [01:24] using chatzilla I assume [01:24] now [01:26] CrOnOs2000, you around? [01:27] Nubi1Kenobi, have you tried the question in #ubuntu [01:27] yeah [01:27] same result [01:27] nothing [01:27] Well... if GParted found a disc mounted that it wants to modify it would warn you and ask if you would like to unmount it... [01:27] Nubi1Kenobi, takes a while sometimes if I new I woud help ;-) [01:27] Nubi1Kenobi, im here i was just setup my google+ count [01:28] yay [01:28] urlin2u, thanks [01:28] no problem [01:28] CrOnOs2000, i started to set mine up [01:28] CrOnOs2000, have you used FSlint for anyting? [01:29] CrOnOs2000, need some help with it [01:29] sorry never tryed before [01:30] Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me. I'm learning about ssh, but I'm having some problems. I'm running ubuntu 11.04 on a desktop and centos in virtualbox, and i'm trying to ssh into my mac that's on the same network [01:30] centos is connected to the network, i've checked my router devices [01:31] urlin2u [01:31] both oses get the same problem: they hang at connecting to the mac [01:31] liquidsnakex, were you using chatzilla [01:31] i don't know but suddenly exclamation marks appeared beside sda1 [01:31] no [01:32] this firefox web browser [01:32] in gparted? [01:32] yea [01:32] screen shot it [01:32] beside the windows partition a key and exclamation mark appeared [01:33] liquidsnakex, you may need a chkdsk. [01:33] da** .... [01:34] but the disk utility says disk is healthy [01:34] http://imagebin.org/168022 [01:35] liquidsnakex: I wouldn't worry to much about that partition... you won't be touching it for this... [01:35] liquidsnakex, so hard to say I'm assuming here, there is a right claick on partition in gparted then information do this with sda1, and see what it says [01:36] unable to find mount point unable to read the contents of this file system ! [01:36] because some of these operations may be unavailable [01:36] liquidsnakex, can you shutdown gparted open just the disk utiity and unmount sda1? [01:37] hey nltshzn_work [01:37] done urlin2u [01:37] then [01:37] ? [01:37] urlin2u: AFAIK as soon as you use gparted to make changes and it first needs to unmount a partition it will prompt you... in this case I don't think it will... [01:38] liquidsnakex, now delete the sda6 make a 9 gig ext4 then a 1 ggig swap next to it with gparted after closing the disk manager [01:38] nlsthzn_work, if I need your hep I wil ask commenting does not make this any easier bro. [01:39] urlin2u: fair enough... lurk mode: ACTIVATED... [01:39] people please don't fight or argue [01:39] nlsthzn_work, no problem but I'm a experienced user. [01:40] i just need your great experience and your assistance in this that's all [01:40] liquidsnakex, no fighting just communicating. ;-) [01:41] done urlin2u [01:41] liquidsnakex, give me another screenie. [01:42] http://imagebin.org/168027 [01:43] liquidsnakex, in that unallocated put a swap then take another screenshot so we know we are on the same page [01:44] liquidsnakex, you have to run them to with the green check mark [01:44] how do i put a swap urlin2u ? [01:44] yea i noticed i should execute the commands i am doing [01:44] liquidsnakex, the dropdown where you found the ext4 has a swap option just scroll [01:45] right click the unallocated add then choose swap. [01:45] well yea the unallocated dropdown menu is all grey and theres no option to choose swap [01:46] then click the green check mark to execute tis so we see partitions= sda6 and sda7 [01:46] it's like unavailable [01:46] liquidsnakex, cick the checkmark to run the delete and ext4 build first then [01:47] i clicked on the checkmark [01:47] and it succesffuly created that sda6 as ext4 [01:48] the unallocated is still unallocated and i can't do anything in it [01:48] cool the swap option should be available now in the unallocated. [01:48] well it's not available :/ [01:48] liquidsnakex, do you see any keys is anything mounted [01:49] sorry nope [01:49] liquidsnakex, give me another screenie [01:49] of Gparted or Disk utility ? [01:50] gparted, that is all that should be running by the way. [01:50] if you had the disk utility open that may be blocking the swap [01:51] i closed it, refresh the GParted and nothing new :/ [01:51] if so close the disk utility and see if swap is available now [01:51] lest se a picture [01:51] your screenie [01:51] http://imagebin.org/168029 [01:52] click new then swap [01:52] linux swap ? [01:52] the the green check to run [01:52] yes [01:52] thats the one [01:53] ;-) [01:53] you will get used to this then be helping others [01:54] give me a screenshot when you have the swap in place [01:54] http://imagebin.org/168033 [01:54] thanks alot man [01:55] well i want to Install Ubuntu 11.04 on sda6 of course, so i should flag it bootable ? [01:55] liquidsnakex, no problem your ready to install, we want to run the install stop at the screen shot that asks where [01:55] gui partitioning screen choice of where and tyoe [01:55] type [01:55] i see [01:56] we will choose the custom one at the bottom. [01:56] but i want to Install Ubuntu 11.04 on sda6 of course, so i should flag it boot ? [01:56] from the GParted ? [01:56] liquidsnakex, no Ubuntu does not need a boot flag. [01:56] does not [01:56] well i want to put ubuntu 11.04 beside win xp ? don't forget that please [01:57] we will install to sda6 at the partitining choice area [01:57] sda6 right [01:57] i see, i will choose sda6 when it gives me the choices to the installation place right ? [01:58] close everything then hit the install button yeah it will be easy once we get there all partitions are listed there. [01:58] well yea but what about the mount point choices and the boot loader installation ? [01:58] i don't understand them [01:58] should i configure something in them or leave them ? [01:59] liquidsnakex, I understand your concern that is done at the same partitioning are, I got your back bro. [01:59] araea [01:59] area [01:59] the partition choice for install and mount and bootis all in one place [02:00] yea so when i install ubuntu 11.04 on sda6 it will autom. boot or i should flag the sda6 partition as Boot ? like that Xp one ? [02:00] liquidsnakex, no boot flag we will just make sure the Ubuntu boot goes to the HD mbr. [02:01] so now i should start installing ? [02:01] bbut this browser will be closed [02:01] :/ [02:01] yep if everything is closed no keys showing in gparted you can hit install. [02:01] alright man [02:01] browser is okay [02:01] see you after it [02:01] thanks alot for your help [02:02] liquidsnakex, hold on [02:02] i am here i am here [02:02] you need to do a ci=ustom insytall it is not automatic [02:02] i see you mean choose the advanced way ? [02:02] stay with me the browser can stay open, tell me when you get the gui that has options for install. [02:03] then choose sda6 , am i right ? [02:03] it will be the bottom choice [02:03] are you there yet [02:03] just a sec [02:04] we want our cart in front of the horse we are doing this systematically. [02:04] it's an old laptop, 2004/2005 can hear the dvdrom laser fighting .... [02:05] screenie http://imagebin.org/168034 [02:06] liquidsnakex, correct something else yo9u will do several things there first click on sda6 when you get there. [02:06] screen shots are great thanks [02:07] you are welcome man, i should be thanking you [02:07] gotta work my a$$ here to learn [02:07] hey this is what we do [02:07] let me know when you click sda6 another window will open [02:08] well something i am stuck in urlin2u [02:08] liquidsnakex, what [02:08] http://imagebin.org/168035 [02:08] what should i do about the "Device for boot loader installation" ? [02:08] leave the 1st choice, 2nd choice, or what please ? [02:09] choose dev/sda this is the boot part you were asking about sda=the HD mbr [02:09] i see [02:09] master boot record is the mbr [02:09] never put grub in windows [02:09] so this won't destroy win xp right ? [02:09] nope [02:09] it wil leave the win xp boot as it is right ? [02:10] leave XP alobe and choose sda [02:10] so later i can choose between xp and ubuntu ? [02:10] alone [02:10] yes we need to do more in that window as well [02:10] i am just making sure man, this is my 1st ubuntu os to be honest ... [02:10] no problem [02:11] http://imagebin.org/168037 [02:11] after choosing the dev/sda top line click on sda6 [02:11] looks good [02:11] click sda6 [02:12] so i choose s dev/sda6 for installation & ATA IC ... ? right ? [02:12] yep [02:12] okay i am ready [02:12] hit install man [02:12] then a widow will open more work there [02:12] i am afraid the laptop won't take it and die lol [02:12] shall i hit install now ? [02:12] yno [02:12] no [02:12] when you clicked sda6 did a window open? [02:12] i see [02:13] double clicked on sda6 [02:13] yup [02:13] Edit Partiton window popped up [02:13] screenie so I can explain [02:14] http://imagebin.org/168038 [02:14] screenie sir [02:14] we will edit correctly this is the format confo=irm and mount area. [02:14] yea man i am dying at this point really [02:14] first click use as and choose ext4 then click format keep it open. [02:15] done. [02:15] on the mount choose / [02:15] Mount point /boot or " / " only ? [02:15] liquidsnakex, / [02:15] om=nly [02:15] done [02:16] done doe [02:16] only [02:16] screenie would be good now [02:16] http://imagebin.org/168039 [02:17] I have done this systematically to make sure you understand and we are on the same page. ;-) [02:17] thanks alot man [02:17] appreciate your assistance VERY MUCH [02:18] hit okay the screen will close and quickly reformat that sda6 partition no danger to XP then hit the go ahed install whatever the next is [02:18] alright man [02:18] i hope and pray it won't kill the laptop [02:18] liquidsnakex, you have got it you will be asked for a name a password at some point [02:18] it's old enough, feelin ubuntu 11.04 is a hot chick ridin an old guy (my laptop) rofl [02:19] lol [02:19] sure urlin2u no problems [02:19] haha [02:19] the other stayed with us till now nlsthzn_work [02:20] nlsthzn_work i think he is busy or away [02:20] liquidsnakex, so once your installed reboot to Ubuntu first. [02:20] I will be here the install will probably take about 20 min [02:22] i am in the keyboard layout [02:22] cool [02:22] the laptop is pretty busy responding in a diffuclt manner [02:22] probably the cd reader [02:23] yea man, i bought it second hand :/ [02:23] do you have a xp cd you will want one in the future [02:23] for safety if needed for repairs [02:23] yea i have one [02:23] cool [02:23] sure man that's a positive [02:24] always have the right tools is what I mean. ;-) [02:24] sure i totally get you [02:24] im currently in the who are you ? installation page [02:24] Hello all. I'm a total new ubuntu user. I am having a problem with getting a ndiswapper-installed pci wireless adapter to work. In nm-list it's showing up correctly after installing ndiswapper now but in the windicator the wifi isn't showing up. It's a linksys WDM300n. Anyone have any ideas? [02:25] another poor fella ... [02:25] once this is all done and booted to ubuntu to run a grub-update and all you may want to run a chkldsk on XP as well. [02:25] chkdsk [02:26] well urlin2u i just want to see ubuntu 11.04 successffully installed and bootable as well as that option of choosing winxp or ubuntu is working too [02:26] and yea i have read what you are telling me in some forums [02:27] to check the integrity of both systems and thanks alot man for mentioning it [02:27] liquidsnakex, the no file seen in XP may be a anomaly we will see if you can open it from ubuntu when you reboot. [02:27] what's the no file seen ? [02:27] you mean that i cannot see anything when ubuntu is installed because of xp ? [02:27] liquidsnakex, you should be running a chkdsk on occasion anyway, depending on how much you use xp [02:28] liquidsnakex, gparted and the red dot said it couldn't read XP, no big deal this happens could be a anomaly [02:28] i am a bit worried now ... [02:29] you have done nothing wrong don't worry [02:29] perhaps because xp is an a$$h*le :D ? [02:29] i see [02:29] lol ... [02:30] when i tell my friends about ubuntu 11.04 they make fun of me and start sayin freeky geeky :S:S:S [02:30] i dunno , is it much fun paying $$ for unstable os such as vista, then win7 ... [02:31] the screen shots of gparted with everything unmounted showed X Pto be there [02:31] yea i understand [02:31] I got W7 for cheap as a college student [02:31] much safer as well [02:31] well here man it costs some what much ... [02:32] .... egypt .... [02:32] liquidsnakex, you heading for college soon, or been there? [02:32] yea man im in college now [02:32] 2nd year business administration [02:33] liquidsnakex, you can get windows for free maybe or like 25$ us like me [02:33] well yea i understand you i tried to look for student version, but guess what, they just make copy out of an original disc ! wtf you know ! [02:33] W7 server for free [02:34] student version is regular purchase I have w7 pro [02:34] i am in egypt my friend not usa ... [02:34] mdsnn or something like that [02:34] yea the supported stuff for college people to fight piracy and so ... [02:35] you just need the key for the version you want, you can get the ISO, and dvd's with the msdnn purchase [02:35] are things getting more stable there? [02:35] yea but didn't work, those mtfkers steal everything , everything even USAID stuff we should receive ... [02:36] yea it's currently retrieving stuff i think updating of course, the router LED is blinking [02:36] 9 of 30 [02:36] u live in usa urlin2u ? [02:37] pacific NW Oregon [02:37] nice [02:37] i am egypt, cairo [02:37] and honestly i don't own a camel or a tent :D lol [02:38] jk [02:38] beautiful area hours from the ocean to the mountains for skiing. Don't worry no false cultural images here. ;-) [02:39] yea man of course fun is 100% guaranteed there unlike here [02:39] protests and demonstrations, curfew , army inspections army road blocks [02:39] as long as your part of the dominant white culture basically. [02:40] lol yea man [02:40] actually i am an armenian too [02:40] but ended up in egypt :'( [02:40] part native american and who knows what else here. [02:41] it's like living among 80 million bin laden rofl [02:41] yea man [02:41] his diatribe was not all wrong but the actions were. [02:42] diatribe ? im sorry don't understand this word [02:42] killing anybody even your own is wrong [02:42] rhetoric [02:42] thanks [02:42] beliefs [02:42] yea got it [02:42] thanks man i am just exhausted it's like 4:20 am here haven't slept all day [02:43] hey, in terminal mode.......need to find the path of a network drive [02:43] any help? [02:43] the world is not a pretty place nobody has all if it correct, you will sleep after this. 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