[00:36] <TiMiDo> hey to apply for a membership from ubuntu. where do i apply in the forum?
[01:47] <highvoltage> TiMiDo: you don't apply on the forums
[01:48] <highvoltage> TiMiDo: you create your application on your wiki page, and then add a link to it to a membership meeting agenda
[01:48] <highvoltage> TiMiDo: This wiki page has some more information: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership
[01:49] <highvoltage> (see the last section: Preparing your Application
[01:49] <highvoltage> )
[11:25] <henninge> dholbach: Hallo! Shouldn't there be a CC meeting happening here right now?
[11:34] <dholbach> henninge, sorry about that - I was still in catch-up mode, as I got back from holidays yesterday - I'll see if I can get some others activated - if not, I'll make sure to update the wiki page with a new time
[11:34] <henninge> dholbach: np,just wondering
[11:35] <henninge> dholbach: I was hoping to see the "what is upstream" question resolve before I try for Membership again.
[11:35] <dholbach> yes, I understand
[11:36] <henninge> next CC meeting slot is right after the EMEA membership meeting ...
[11:36] <henninge> dholbach: I hope you had a nice holiday, though ... ;-)
[11:37] <dholbach> I did - thanks :)
[11:37] <dholbach> I'll give you an update as soon as I hear back - I just pinged the whole lot (or rather whoever was on IRC)
[11:37] <henninge> cool, thanks
[11:37] <popey> ah, sorry.
[12:06]  * henninge goes to lunch
[15:57] <jamespage> o/
[15:58] <utlemming> greetings
[15:58] <Daviey> jamespage, you are an eager beaver
[15:58] <jamespage> :-)
[15:58] <Daviey> hallyn: I do believe the chair is all yours.
[15:58] <hallyn> yup
[15:59] <hallyn> \o
[15:59]  * hallyn finds the agenda again
[15:59] <hallyn> #startmeeting
[15:59] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Aug 16 15:59:30 2011 UTC.  The chair is hallyn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
[15:59] <meetingology> Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting.
[15:59] <hallyn> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[15:59] <meetingology> TOPIC: Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[15:59] <hallyn> sommer and j1mc to look at doc presentation (continued x 3)
[16:00] <zul> heylo
[16:00] <hallyn> what do we do about the docs? :)
[16:00] <zul> docs what docs? :)
[16:00] <hallyn> robbiew: ^ something was said about this last week somewhere, right?
[16:01] <robbiew> kim0 is helping us there
[16:01] <robbiew> reviewing what we have
[16:01] <hallyn> ok, i'll mark that as an action to discuss next week?
[16:02] <robbiew> I guess
[16:02]  * Daviey takes the action of syncing with kim0 offline.
[16:02] <hallyn> yay
[16:02] <hallyn> #action Daviey to sync with kim0 offline regarding docs
[16:02] <meetingology> ACTION: Daviey to sync with kim0 offline regarding docs
[16:02] <hallyn> Daviey and adam_g to address Bug #791850
[16:02] <Daviey> was it adam, or utlemming?
[16:02] <hallyn> (and, related, smb and utlemming to look at Bug #791850 )
[16:03] <hallyn> in the meeting logs i saw adam
[16:03] <utlemming> there was a typo there....
[16:03] <hallyn> ah
[16:03] <utlemming> SMB has a test image with that fixed
[16:03] <hallyn> noted.  so what's the status?
[16:03] <hallyn> cool
[16:03] <Daviey> looks like it is making progress!
[16:03] <smb> I need to poke upstream a bit more there but I have a patch to revert, yes
[16:03] <Daviey> yah
[16:04] <hallyn> smb: do you think it warrants an action still?
[16:04] <smb> No, I think we are on track
[16:04] <hallyn> awesome, thanks
[16:04] <hallyn> #topic Oneiric Development
[16:04] <meetingology> TOPIC: Oneiric Development
[16:04] <Daviey> Welcome back everyone!
[16:04] <Daviey> With most of the team sprinting last week, our incoming bug triage fell off the radar slightly.
[16:04] <Daviey> We need to add some love to:
[16:04] <Daviey> http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/triage-report.html
[16:04] <Daviey> Release bugs:
[16:04] <Daviey> http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:05] <Daviey> If you know of a bug not being tracked on that page, please raise it now or shortly after the meeting.
[16:05] <Daviey> We really need Feature Freeze Exceptions raised for every feature not yet landed.
[16:05] <Daviey> If there is a feature you know of, not being tracked at the top of that page, please make it known.
[16:05] <hallyn> #action all look over http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:05] <meetingology> ACTION: all look over http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:06] <Daviey> FWIW, the feature reaper might have to show it's head soon.
[16:06] <hallyn> scythes look cool
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[16:06] <Daviey> Everyone knows what a 'feature' is, i guess>
[16:06] <Daviey> ?
[16:07] <smb> Anything we cannot claim a bug?
[16:07] <Daviey> smb: couldn't put it better myself!
[16:07] <utlemming> or anything we can't make sound like a bug?
[16:07] <Daviey> anything else for development?
[16:07] <Daviey> utlemming: Shhh (but yes)
[16:07] <Daviey> But actually, feature bugs are helpful for tracking.
[16:08] <hallyn> thanks, Daviey.  moving on then,
[16:08] <hallyn> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:08] <meetingology> TOPIC: Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:08] <hallyn> i think we're event'ed out, but linuxcon is going on right now and at least plumber's is coming up
[16:08] <Daviey> Next Week - lynxman and co are sprinting.
[16:09] <Daviey> doing orchestra and openstack love.
[16:09] <toddc> +
[16:09] <zul> linuxcon thisweek
[16:09] <Daviey> So say hello to zul if you see him in Vancoover.
[16:09] <hallyn> ok, moving on,
[16:09]  * robbiew leaves today
[16:09] <robbiew> for linxcon
[16:10] <zul> yay
[16:10] <zul> robbiew: bring your tuxedo
[16:10] <hallyn> and kirkland is there?
[16:10] <kirkland> hallyn: I am in Vancouver :-)
[16:10] <zul> at kvm forum somewhere
[16:10] <hallyn> excellent
[16:10] <hallyn> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:10] <meetingology> TOPIC: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:10] <robbiew> zul: I got one ;)
[16:11] <zul> robbiew: bringing it?
[16:11] <zul> robbiew: or tux shirt?
[16:11] <hallyn> hggdh: o/
[16:12] <hallyn> drat, moving on then
[16:12] <hallyn> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:12] <meetingology> TOPIC: Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:12] <smb> Heya, there is sort of just two little things from my side...
[16:12] <robbiew> zul: bringing
[16:12] <smb> Based on a recent incident (or user confusion) -> bug #821466 I am wondering whether we may want to consider reverting the rename xvd to sd special patch from Maverick as well. On the other hand its only a matter of time till that dies now...
[16:12] <smb> Its gone in Natty and I would think EC2 can do without... smoser ?
[16:13] <hggdh> \o (late, I know)
[16:13] <smoser> wait, what ? smb ?
[16:13] <hallyn> hggdh: (cool, we'll go back when smb is done)
[16:13] <smoser> oh, i see. i would not say we should change the device naming in an SRU
[16:14] <smb> smoser, Would you think too, that maverick EC2 would still work with the devices be xvda... and so on?
[16:14] <nijaba> o/ (late too)
[16:14] <smb> Ok, so we just keep it that way
[16:14] <hallyn> does that mean mav kernel won't work on rackspace?
[16:14] <smoser> smb, i'm not sure. without thinking more.
[16:15] <hallyn> do you want to discuss out of band after thinking more?
[16:15] <smb> Other thing. Currently trying to test latest oneiric dom0. PVM seems ok. HVM... well the loader seems ok after todays update, but something evil is going on with my bonding setup...
[16:15] <smb> hallyn, Yeah, no hurry there
[16:16] <hallyn> #action smoser and smb to further discuss xvd renaming (bug 821466)
[16:16] <meetingology> ACTION: smoser and smb to further discuss xvd renaming (bug 821466)
[16:16] <smoser> if i understand correctly, smb, you're suggesting that we should make maverick use the /dev/xvda based naming rather than the patch we had there to make the first device as /dev/sda
[16:16] <smoser> is that correct?
[16:16] <smb> smoser, correct (revert the patch doing that like in natty)
[16:16] <smoser> because i'm really pretty sure that we should not make such a change in a stable release, especially one that is just going to go away soon enough
[16:17] <smoser> lucid, though, is another story
[16:17] <smoser> we will need that to upgrade smoothly to 12.04, so will have to think about it.
[16:17] <smb> smoser, Ok, can live with that too. So I would document it in the bug and be done
[16:17] <utlemming> also, I would be a little concerned about what happens when a user updates
[16:18] <utlemming> if users aren't mounting via persistent names, than that sort of change could break them.
[16:18] <hallyn> so is that decided (comment and make no change)?
[16:18] <smb> smoser, Well we need to look closely which kernel yields what
[16:18] <smb> ec2 kernels probably use sda while server and generic-pae would have xvd
[16:19] <hallyn> let's move on guys.  smb you suspect your bonding setup is unreliable?
[16:19] <smb> hallyn, I take that yes for Maverick anyways
[16:19] <smb> hallyn, Not working at all seems a better word
[16:19] <hallyn> but it was working with latest try?
[16:19] <smb> It works under normal boot it seems
[16:19] <hallyn> oh, i see
[16:20] <smb> Maybe when xend takes over and creates pbond0... not sure yet
[16:20]  * RoAkSoAx is back
[16:20] <smb> It was working before I upgraded today, but that was the after-feature freeeze update...
[16:21] <hallyn> smb: do you want any help from smoser/zul on that, or do you just need to dig in?
[16:21] <smb> so all odds are open
[16:21] <smb> I'll get back if I can find nothing
[16:21] <smb> Just wanted to bring it up
[16:21] <hallyn> cool, thanks smb
[16:21] <smb> In case someone else had been experiencing the same
[16:21] <hallyn> moving back,
[16:21] <smb> ..
[16:21] <hallyn> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:21] <meetingology> TOPIC: Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:22] <hggdh> I have a few questions relating to beta
[16:22] <hggdh> (1) are there any new tests we should run on the ISO tracker?
[16:22] <hggdh> (2) what is the status of openstack & companions?
[16:23] <Daviey> hggdh: we need more tests, but as it stands we've had no time to assist with that
[16:23] <Daviey> I'm hoping jamespage might be able to assist with that soon.
[16:23] <hallyn> Daviey: is there a list of new tests which need to be written?
[16:23] <Daviey> hallyn: not as yet.
[16:24] <Daviey> hggdh: the devtest lab currently has an orchestra provisioning server
[16:24] <Daviey> Once ensemble lands it's required features, we are hoping to really bang out the test cases.
[16:24] <jamespage> Daviey, hggdh: I did start a topic for planning openstack testing - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Oneiric/OpenStackTestPlan
[16:24] <Daviey> jamespage: splendid!
[16:24] <hggdh> perfect!
[16:24] <jamespage> but its lacking detail as yet
[16:25] <hggdh> what about cobbler?
[16:25] <jamespage> hggdh: should we drop the current uec tests from the tracker (or did I miss that happening already?)?
[16:25] <Daviey> jamespage: I believe that has been done
[16:25] <hggdh> jamespage: as far as I can remember, they should have been dropped already
[16:26] <jamespage> OK
[16:26] <hggdh> I will check with jibel, though
[16:27] <hggdh> and, from me. This is it. Please do help on the ISO tests -- review, manual run, whatever
[16:27] <hggdh> ..
[16:27] <hallyn> thanks, hggdh
[16:27] <hallyn> moving on,
[16:27] <hallyn> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander)
[16:27] <meetingology> TOPIC: Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander)
[16:27] <hallyn> NCommander: around?
[16:27] <Daviey> ogra_: can you stand in?
[16:28] <ogra_> stand where ?
[16:28] <Daviey> ogra_: just there ----->
[16:28]  * ogra_ stands there --->
[16:28] <Daviey> ogra_: Are you able to talk about ARM server, as NCommander isn't here?
[16:28] <ogra_> not really, he didnt update me
[16:28] <Daviey> ogra_: ok.. :'(, thanks anyway.
[16:28] <ogra_> sorry :(
[16:29] <hallyn> thanks - moving on
[16:29] <hallyn> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community
[16:29] <meetingology> TOPIC: Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community
[16:29] <ogra_> i didnt know he wouldnt be around, else i would have colledted info
[16:29] <Daviey> ogra_: understood, no worries.
[16:29] <hallyn> any questions from community?
[16:29] <Daviey> anyone looking for stuff to do?
[16:29] <hallyn> lol
[16:29] <Daviey> ranging from easy to really very complicated?
[16:29] <Daviey> both essential :)
[16:30] <hallyn> if so, go see Daviey, if he runs out of things he'll know who to go to next :)
[16:30] <hggdh> Daviey: shoot. I can always jump out ;-)
[16:30] <Daviey> hggdh: Super!  Grab me afterwards :)
[16:31]  * hggdh wonders what is in store...
[16:31] <hallyn> Daviey: did you have some specific htings you wanted to list now, or were you just waiting to see if anyone responds?
[16:31] <Daviey> hallyn: both.
[16:31] <Daviey> :)
[16:31] <hallyn> noone's responding, but enumerate away!
[16:32] <Daviey> hallyn: just note that grab me if people want to contribute to the awesomness that is Ubuntu Server.
[16:32] <Daviey> With YOUR help, it will be a little bit more awesome.
[16:32] <Daviey> EOM.
[16:32] <hallyn> #action anyone (anyone!) who wants to make ubuntu server even more awesome, talk to Daviey
[16:32] <meetingology> ACTION: anyone (anyone!) who wants to make ubuntu server even more awesome, talk to Daviey
[16:32] <hallyn> #topic Open Discussion
[16:32] <meetingology> TOPIC: Open Discussion
[16:33] <Daviey> anyone looking for stuff to do?
[16:33] <zul> mememe
[16:33] <Daviey> ranging from easy to really very complicated?
[16:33] <Daviey> :)
[16:33] <hallyn> hey should i make an action item for that?
[16:33] <hallyn> zul: fix libvirt
[16:33] <hallyn> and libcgroup
[16:34] <zul> hallyn: be my guest :)
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[16:34] <Daviey> zul: please consider rewriting libvirt in Go.
[16:34] <robbiew> heh
[16:34] <hallyn> ok, moving on,
[16:34] <hallyn> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:34] <meetingology> TOPIC: Announce next meeting date and time
[16:34] <hallyn> I believe that would be August 23, 16:00 UTC
[16:34] <Daviey> top banana!
[16:34] <hallyn> thanks all, have a great day.
[16:34] <hallyn> #endmeeting
[16:34] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Aug 16 16:34:46 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot . (v 0.1.4)
[16:34] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-16-15.59.moin.txt
[16:35]  * Daviey feels all the more positive.
[16:59] <apw> o/
[16:59] <jjohansen> \o
[17:00] <ogasawara> #startmeeting
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Aug 16 17:00:00 2011 UTC.  The chair is ogasawara. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
[17:00] <meetingology> Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting.
[17:00] <smb> \o
[17:00] <ppisati> o/
[17:00] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Oneiric
[17:00] <ogasawara> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:00] <ogasawara> #
[17:00] <ogasawara> # NOTE: '..' indicates that you are finished with your input.
[17:00] <ogasawara> #       'o/' indicates you have something you'd like to add (wait until you are recognized)
[17:00] <ogasawara> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:00] <meetingology> TOPIC: ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:00] <ppisati> Generic kernel arm: nothing interesting, besides lp709245 ("ARM SMP scheduler performance bug") that is becoming a show stopper.
[17:00]  * Daviey perks up.
[17:00] <ppisati> Oneiric/ti-omap4: a new BSP/kernel update (1202.6) is in the pipe.
[17:00] <ppisati> ..
[17:00] <ppisati> Oneiric/tegra: nothing new to report.
[17:01] <ogasawara> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (ogasawara)
[17:01] <meetingology> TOPIC: Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (ogasawara)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [17:01] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:01] <ogasawara> [17:01] <ogasawara>  * 31 linux kernel bugs (up 11)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [17:01] <ogasawara>  * 2 linux kernel bugs (up 2)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [17:01] <ogasawara>  * 0 oneiric linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 18 natty linux kernel bugs (down 1)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 3 maverick linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 7 lucid linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 0 hardy linux kernel bugs (no change 0)
[17:01] <ogasawara> [17:01] <ogasawara>  * 116 oneiric bugs (up 27)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 1511 natty bugs (up 19)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 1091 maverick bugs (up 2)
[17:01] <ogasawara>  * 954 lucid bugs (up 13)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 33 hardy bugs (up 2)
[17:02] <ogasawara> [17:02] <ogasawara> [17:02] <ogasawara>  * 0 oneiric bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 13 natty bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 40 maverick bugs (down 1)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 78 lucid bugs (up 3)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 0 hardy bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <ogasawara> [17:02] <ogasawara>  * 3 oneiric bugs (up 2)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 439 natty bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 238 maverick bugs (down 2)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 215 lucid bugs (up 1)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 2 hardy bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <ogasawara> [17:02] <ogasawara>  * 1 oneiric bugs (up 1)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 3 natty bugs (up 1)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 1 maverick bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 1 lucid bugs (up 1)
[17:02] <ogasawara>  * 0 hardy bugs (no change 0)
[17:02] <ogasawara> ..
[17:02] <ogasawara> [TOPIC] Beta-1 Work Items
[17:02] <meetingology> TOPIC: Beta-1 Work Items
[17:02] <ogasawara> || apw       || other-kernel-o-gcc-build-dependency || 1 work item ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||           || other-kernel-o-bug-handling         || 2 work items||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||           || other-kernel-o-version-and-flavours || 2 work items||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||           || other-kernel-o-ubuntu-delta-review  || 1 work item ||
[17:02] <ogasawara> ||           || desktop-o-xorg-stakeholders-request || 1 work item ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> ||           || desktop-o-xorg-tools-and-processes  || 4 work items||
[17:03] <ogasawara> || lag       || other-kernel-o-ubuntu-delta-review  || 1 work item ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> || ogasawara || other-kernel-o-version-and-flavours || 2 work items||
[17:03] <ogasawara> || rsalveti  || other-kernel-o-ubuntu-delta-review  || 1 work item ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> || sarvatt   || desktop-o-xorg-tools-and-processes  || 1 work item ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> || sconklin  || desktop-o-xorg-stakeholders-request || 1 work item ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> || smb       || other-kernel-o-version-and-flavours || 1 work item ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> || tjaalton  || other-kernel-o-ubuntu-delta-review  || 1 work item ||
[17:03] <ogasawara> If you're listed in the table above, please review your work items.
[17:03] <ogasawara> ..
[17:03] <apw> ack ..
[17:03] <sconklin> ack
[17:03] <sconklin> ..
[17:03] <smb> ack
[17:03] <smb> ..
[17:03] <ogasawara> [TOPIC] Status: General Oneiric (ogasawara)
[17:03] <meetingology> TOPIC: Status: General Oneiric (ogasawara)
[17:04] <ogasawara> Last week we uploaded the 3.0.0-8.11 Ubuntu kernel.  See [LINK] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/3.0.0-8.11 for the full changelog.  I'd like to remind everone that we're approximately 1 week away from Beta Freeze.  As such, I intend to upload our Beta-1 kernel by the end of this week.  ie. get your patches sent to the mailing list asap if you want them to hit the Beta-1 release.
[17:04] <ogasawara> Some important dates to keep in mind are as follows:
[17:04] <ogasawara>  * Aug 25 - Beta Freeze (~1 week)
[17:04] <ogasawara>  * Sept 1 - Beta 1 (~2 weeks)
[17:04] <ogasawara>  * Sept 15 - Kernel Freeze (~4 weeks)
[17:04] <ogasawara>  * Sept 22 - Beta 2 (~5 weeks)
[17:04] <ogasawara> We'll continue pull in bug fixes and follow upstream stable v3.0.x as we move towards release.  I'd also like to note that I've opened the P-series git repo and recently rebased it to v3.1-rc2.  It's available in my personal repo on zinc - git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ogasawara/ubuntu-p.git .  I'll make an official announcement to the mailing list shortly.
[17:04] <ogasawara> ..
[17:05] <ogasawara> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (apw)
[17:05] <meetingology> TOPIC: Status: CVE's (apw)
[17:05] <apw> == 2011-08-16 (weekly) ==
[17:05] <apw> [17:05] <apw> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:05] <apw> Currently open CVEs for each supported branch:
[17:05] <apw> || Package                                  || Open ||
[17:05] <apw> ||                                          ||      ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux Hardy                              ||    7 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux Lucid                              ||    3 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux Maverick                           ||    3 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux Natty                              ||    3 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux Oneiric                            ||    2 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux-ec2 Lucid                          ||    3 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux-fsl-imx51 Lucid                    ||    3 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux-mvl-dove Lucid                     ||    3 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux-mvl-dove Maverick                  ||    3 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux-ti-omap4 Maverick                  ||    3 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux-ti-omap4 Natty                     ||    3 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux-ti-omap4 Oneiric                   ||    2 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux-lts-backport-maverick Lucid        ||    3 ||
[17:05] <apw> || linux-lts-backport-natty Lucid           ||    3 ||
[17:05] <apw> We have just found a regression introduced by one of the fixes for CVE-2011-1020.  Investigation ongoing.
[17:05] <apw> ..
[17:06] <ogasawara> [TOPIC] Status: Stable Kernel Team (sconklin)
[17:06] <meetingology> TOPIC: Status: Stable Kernel Team (sconklin)
[17:06] <sconklin> ||== Status of kernels ==
[17:06] <sconklin> ||
[17:06] <sconklin> || This is kernel verification week. All kernels except Natty were ready for verification this
[17:06] <sconklin> || week, but a regression has been discovered in all kernels except Natty due to application of
[17:06] <sconklin> || a CVE patch. All kernels will be respun and further status will be announced when we have
[17:06] <sconklin> || estimated completion times for kernel prep.
[17:06] <sconklin> ||
[17:06] <sconklin> || The CVE tracking bug for the discovered regressionis here:
[17:06] <sconklin> || https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/813026/
[17:06] <sconklin> ||
[17:06] <sconklin> || Kernel status for each series is as follows:
[17:06] <sconklin> ||
[17:06] <sconklin> ||[17:06] <sconklin> || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/8239120|Hardy Tracking Bug]]
[17:06] <sconklin> || * Is being held for a CVE regression (was ready for copying to -updates)
[17:06] <sconklin> ||
[17:06] <sconklin> ||[17:06] <sconklin> || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/824148|Lucid Tracking Bug]]
[17:06] <sconklin> || * Is being held for a CVE regression (was in verification)
[17:06] <sconklin> ||
[17:06] <sconklin> ||[17:06] <sconklin> || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/823306|Maverick Tracking Bug]]
[17:06] <sconklin> || * Is being held for a CVE regression (was in verification)
[17:06] <sconklin> ||
[17:07] <sconklin> ||[17:07] <sconklin> || * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/818175|Natty Tracking Bug]]
[17:07] <sconklin> || * Is being held for an [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/814325|Intel graphics regression ]]
[17:07] <sconklin> ||   This regression also exists in upstream kernels, and the hardware enablement team is
[17:07] <sconklin> ||   invesitgating this and working with upstream.
[17:07] <sconklin> ..
[17:07] <ogasawara> [TOPIC] Security & bugfix kernels - Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (sconklin)
[17:07] <meetingology> TOPIC: Security & bugfix kernels - Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy (sconklin)
[17:07] <ogasawara> (seems like it was covered above?)
[17:07] <sconklin> ||
[17:07] <sconklin> || Current Kernel versions are available here: http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/versions.html
[17:07] <sconklin> ||
[17:07] <sconklin> ..
[17:07] <ogasawara> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions: Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:07] <meetingology> TOPIC: Open Discussion or Questions: Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:08] <ogasawara> #endmeeting
[17:08] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Aug 16 17:08:23 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot . (v 0.1.4)
[17:08] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-16-17.00.moin.txt
[17:08] <sconklin> thanks Leann!
[17:08] <kamal> thanks ogasawara
[17:08] <apw> cool
[17:08] <ogasawara> sconklin: you want me to combine your above two agenda items?
[17:09] <ogasawara> damn, missed him
[17:09] <smb> kthxbye :)
[19:13] <AlanBell> o/ czajkowski
[19:14] <brobostigon> :)
[19:15] <AlanBell> do we know who is chairing tonight? I wanted to do a quick runthrough of the awesomeness that is the #voters command
[19:18] <brobostigon> #voters command?
[19:51] <popey> AlanBell: is it just #voters followed by the list of people allowed to vote?
[19:51] <AlanBell> yes
[19:52] <itnet7> AlanBell: still would be cool to create a #passthebaton command
[19:52] <AlanBell> itnet7:  that would be the #chair command
[19:52] <itnet7> Oh, It does that now?
[19:52] <czajkowski> popey: can you chair my netwok seems to be cutting out with skynet
[19:52] <itnet7> mid meeting?
[19:52] <AlanBell> I can make #passthebaton an alias if you like :)
[19:52] <popey> czajkowski: yes
[19:52] <czajkowski> thanks
[19:52] <AlanBell> itnet7: yup
[19:53] <czajkowski> skynet is being arsey
[19:53] <itnet7> No, but it's good to know that that would do it!
[19:53] <AlanBell> I didn't get round to doing quorum stuff in the voting system
[19:54] <AlanBell> or casting votes
[19:54] <AlanBell> but patches welcome :)
[19:54] <itnet7> :-)
[19:55] <AlanBell> #chair foo bar will add foo and bar to the list of people it listens to for #topic and #endmeeting and #vote commands
[19:56] <itnet7> Sweet
[19:59] <brobostigon> meep
[20:00] <popey> #startmeeting
[20:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Aug 16 20:00:17 2011 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
[20:00] <meetingology> Useful Commands: #topic #action #link #idea #voters #vote #chair #action #agreed #help #info #endmeeting.
[20:00] <popey> ping czajkowski itnet7 huats leogg paultag
[20:00] <popey> Welcome to the LoCo Council Meeting, our agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncilAgenda
[20:01] <leogg> hello :)
[20:01] <AlanBell> o/
[20:01] <czajkowski> Aloha
[20:01] <scott_ev> howdie
[20:01] <toddc> hello
[20:01] <itnet7> Hey there!
[20:01] <Dazed_75> Hiya
[20:01] <popey> paultag explained he may not be around and has already given us his votes via email. So when the time comes we'll be okay there.
[20:01] <popey> huats: you about?
[20:01] <triunity> Mornin
[20:02] <bj0> alo
[20:02] <fuzzyvader> hey
[20:02] <Yorokobi> Good afternoon, everyone.
[20:02] <scott_ev> mhelmke ping
[20:02] <czajkowski> huats: did say he would be here
[20:03] <popey> give him just a minute or two
[20:03] <czajkowski> yup
[20:03] <jtatum> \o
[20:04] <huats> I am here
[20:04] <czajkowski> :)
[20:04] <popey> \o/
[20:04] <huats> sorry for the late arrival
[20:04] <huats> :)
[20:04] <popey> np
[20:04] <popey> right, we'll begin then.
[20:04] <popey> #topic Ubuntu UK LoCo re-approval.
[20:04] <meetingology> TOPIC: Ubuntu UK LoCo re-approval.
[20:04] <popey> AlanBell: you about? ;)
[20:05] <AlanBell> I am, good evening all
[20:05] <popey> Now, to be clear, myself and czajkowski wont take part in the vote on UK because we're both in the team
[20:05] <AlanBell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ReApprovalApplication2011
[20:05] <popey> but huats itnet7 and paultag will vote
[20:05] <popey> is anyone here to support the UK team re-approval application?
[20:05] <AlanBell> o/
[20:05] <brobostigon> o/
[20:05] <danfish> o/
[20:05] <StevenR> o/
[20:05] <reidrac> o/
[20:06] <popey> itnet7 / huats do you have any questions or comments for AlanBell ?
[20:06] <bigcalm_lappy486> Hi :)
[20:06] <bigcalm_lappy486> o/
[20:07] <itnet7> popey: thinking... The Application really spells out a lot
[20:07] <popey> yeah, have some time to read :D
[20:07] <popey> I'll ask a question then ☺
[20:07] <itnet7> AlanBell: What would you say is the teams biggest challenge?
[20:07] <christel> o/
[20:08] <AlanBell> well there are a number of challenges, we have a lot of awesome individuals and we need to do more as a team to bring more people in
[20:08] <leogg> AlanBell, what do you do to get people involved in the team?
[20:09] <AlanBell> I know there are *loads* of UK people in #ubuntu and the english language forums who are not really involved in the loco activities as such
[20:09] <AlanBell> leogg: we have a lovely friendly IRC channel where we provide support and organise things, we announce events to our mailing list, website and loco directory page
[20:10] <huats> AlanBell, I am REALLY impressed by the vitality of your LoCo : Ubuntu business is terrific, I am a regular listener of the podcast...So congrats for your great work !
[20:10] <AlanBell> we organise real world events like geeknics and conferences
[20:10] <itnet7> Ditto
[20:10] <AlanBell> yeah, the Ubuntu in Business event was buzzing, we should do another one of them
[20:10] <leogg> AlanBell, the geeknics and oggcamp are really cool
[20:10] <AlanBell> quite a bit of work in the planning though
[20:11] <AlanBell> oggcamp was such fun :)
[20:11] <itnet7> Awesome work, I have no other questions
[20:11] <leogg> AlanBell, team reports? do you have any? I can't find them on the application
[20:11] <huats> AlanBell, honnestly Ubuntu Business is something that many LoCo should consider, "mine" (ubuntu-fr) being one of them :)
[20:11] <AlanBell> we do have team reports, we used them when writing the application, one sec . . .
[20:12] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TeamReports/
[20:12] <czajkowski> Is there plans to run more Ubuntu in Business?
[20:12] <leogg> popey, thanks
[20:12] <huats> AlanBell, do you have any interactions with locos around ?
[20:12] <AlanBell> czajkowski: just an aspiration at the moment
[20:12] <AlanBell> huats: other loco teams you mean?
[20:12] <itnet7> [LINK]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/TeamReports
[20:13] <itnet7> lol
[20:13] <huats> yep
[20:13] <itnet7> my bad
[20:13] <popey> the wiki is broken, it doesn't show ones after april, but they are there
[20:13] <popey> oh, it does, just in a dumb order
[20:13] <AlanBell> huats: we have members from a number of countries, and several other LoCo teams are using some of our meeting innovations (agenda formats and bots)
[20:14] <leogg> I must say I'm a big fan of uupc, based on that alone I'll give you +1 :)
[20:14] <popey> lol
[20:14] <AlanBell> uupc is teh awesome
[20:14] <czajkowski> hehe
[20:14] <brobostigon> :)
[20:14] <czajkowski> I've just one question, how do you plan to reach out to get more people involved in your team, and get more of the canonical folks who are based in the UK involved?
[20:15] <AlanBell> huats: there is a list at the end of our reapproval application of some things we do for other locos
[20:16] <huats> AlanBell, I was not meaing things you are doing for other teams, but things you are doing with other teams
[20:16] <huats> (like joint meetings)
[20:16] <huats> (read meaning not meaing)
[20:16] <AlanBell> czajkowski: I would indeed love to get more canonical folk involved, we get together at the release parties, but doing more than that would be great
[20:16] <AlanBell> I did do some fire breathing with aqarius, that must count for something
[20:17] <scott_ev> haha
[20:17] <bigcalm> LOL
[20:17] <AlanBell> huats: hmm, interesting, we are a bit of an island in that sense and the litteral sense
[20:17] <popey> AlanBell: it seems there has been quite a flurry of activity in the last few months, possibly ahead of this meeting. How do you keep that momentum up?
[20:17] <TheOpenSourcerer> Evening - sorry I'm late.
[20:17] <AlanBell> hi TheOpenSourcerer
[20:17] <huats> AlanBell, I know that would be the interesting thing :)
[20:18] <AlanBell> popey: I want to speed it up faster
[20:18] <popey> How?
[20:18] <AlanBell> more events, working more with the people who do stuff in other areas of the country like the Manchester stuff
[20:19] <popey> ok
[20:19] <AlanBell> I want to find a way in to the universities, the computing societies I tried so far were unresponsive
[20:19] <popey> czajkowski / leogg / huats / itnet7 any more questions?
[20:19] <AlanBell> links with hackspaces etc
[20:19] <czajkowski> nope I'm good thanks.
[20:19] <AlanBell> I went to the london hackspace last month to see what they are up to
[20:19] <leogg> I'm ready to vote
[20:19]  * daubershome is late... sorry"
[20:20] <itnet7> leogg: ditto
[20:20] <popey> #voters leogg huats itnet7
[20:20] <meetingology> Current voters: huats itnet7 leogg
[20:20] <popey> ok
[20:20] <popey> here goes.
[20:20] <leogg> +1
[20:20] <popey> haha
[20:20] <popey> not so fast :D
[20:20] <leogg> popey, come onnnnnnn
[20:20] <leogg> :D
[20:20] <popey> #vote on re-approval of Ubuntu UK loco
[20:20] <meetingology> Please vote on: on re-approval of Ubuntu UK loco
[20:20] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:21] <itnet7> +1
[20:21] <meetingology> +1 received from itnet7
[20:21] <leogg> +1
[20:21] <meetingology> +1 received from leogg
[20:21] <huats> +1
[20:21] <meetingology> +1 received from huats
[20:21] <popey> #endvote
[20:21] <meetingology> Voting ended on: on re-approval of Ubuntu UK loco
[20:21] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:21] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:21] <AlanBell> \o/
[20:21] <popey> Plus one more from paultag
[20:21] <bigcalm> \o/
[20:21] <brobostigon> :)
[20:21] <TheOpenSourcerer> woot!
[20:21] <jledbetter> Congratulations AlanBell :)
[20:21] <itnet7> Sweet!! Congrats
[20:21] <popey> Great work AlanBell
[20:21]  * christel claps
[20:21] <popey> keep it up
[20:21] <jtatum> :)
[20:21] <leogg> congrats guys! awesome work!
[20:21] <czajkowski> AlanBell: congrats
[20:21] <christel> well done tinkerbell! <3
[20:21] <scott_ev> w00t
[20:21] <bigcalm> Nice work AlanBell :)
[20:22] <TheOpenSourcerer> That didn't take long. Only grabbed the last 5 mins. Did I miss much?
[20:22] <bigcalm> And everybody else who continue to make the UK Team awesome :)
[20:22] <popey> TheOpenSourcerer: you missed the bit where we handed out free money
[20:22] <popey> sorry
[20:22] <TheOpenSourcerer> Blast.
[20:22] <popey> Right, moving on
[20:22] <TheOpenSourcerer> Never mind - it would have slipped through my fat fingers anyway ;-)
[20:22] <popey> #topic Ubuntu California Re-Approval
[20:22] <meetingology> TOPIC: Ubuntu California Re-Approval
[20:23] <popey> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/ApprovalApplication2011
[20:23] <popey> bah
[20:23] <popey> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/ApprovalApplication2011
[20:23] <popey> stupid bot
[20:23] <popey> pleia2: you about?
[20:23] <pleia2> hi :)
[20:23] <popey> hullo!
[20:23] <DarkwingDuck> o/
[20:23] <czajkowski> Aloha folks
[20:24] <popey> Anyone here to support Ubuntu Californian LoCo reapproval?
[20:24] <DarkwingDuck> \o/
[20:24] <jtatum> o/
[20:24] <pleia2> o/
[20:24] <philipballew> o/
[20:25] <DarkwingDuck> I'll be bouncing a bit.. playing Dady Day Care.
[20:25] <DarkwingDuck> *Daddy
[20:25] <popey> pleia2: I am enjoying seeing the work you're doing installing Ubuntu for local community projects. Hows that going?
[20:25] <popey> are others involved?
[20:25] <pleia2> popey: very well, just had a partimus installfest where we has several team members come out
[20:25] <czajkowski> DarkwingDuck: pleia2 care to tell us how ye get things done in your team ?
[20:25] <pleia2> grantbow has been involved for years, we had a woman from our ubuntu hours and installfests come out too
[20:27] <pleia2> we have people all over the state taking charge of events in their area and plan them, we swap tips about venues and things
[20:27] <pleia2> so we've got ubuntu hours all over the place, the bay area and southern california are distinct regions that often have events
[20:28] <pleia2> so for us it's really about individuals in their regions taking charge of events
[20:28] <itnet7> It seems to be working out really well
[20:29] <popey> I'd be interested in how your 'hours' work out
[20:29] <popey> many turn up?
[20:29] <pleia2> we've had everywhere from 1 to over 20
[20:29] <huats> to add to popey : how do you promote them ?
[20:29] <pleia2> I'd say typically for most it's about 5-10 people
[20:29] <DarkwingDuck> LUGs, Word of mouth, etc.
[20:29] <popey> and how regular are they?
[20:29] <leogg> pleia2, California is pretty big, how do you manage to cover all of the state? Or does most things happen on the bigger cities/areas?
[20:30] <pleia2> we announce them on our mailing list, forums, twitter, identica, facebook
[20:30] <popey> in the same place all the time?
[20:30] <DarkwingDuck> Try to
[20:30] <pleia2> and then locally some ubuntu hours advertise to LUGs (I advertise the Ubuntu Hours we couple with Debian dinners to the local lists for SF Ubuntu Hours)
[20:30] <czajkowski> pleia2: that's a lot of places, I know other teams complain about posting to multiple places, but do you think it's benefical ?
[20:31] <pleia2> leogg: we have active members all over the state, so individuals just create events where they are (our list of ubuntu hour locations is at the end of our app, it's not just the major cities)
[20:31] <czajkowski> DarkwingDuck: can you tell us how things are in the team, in the past it was a bit hairy, but I'm glad to see it's settled down, how is the team doing now ?
[20:31] <popey> wow
[20:31] <popey> thats an impressive set of Hours
[20:31] <pleia2> popey: some are every other week, the ones in the bay area tend to be monthly (mostly because there are millions of tech events in the bay area, more than one per month would be further saturation :))
[20:31] <leogg> pleia2, nice! thank you :)
[20:32] <popey> Yeah, I can imagine!
[20:32] <pleia2> czajkowski: the core team handles announcing things centrally to all the resources, it's not so bad, then individuals handle announcements locally
[20:32] <czajkowski> ok
[20:32] <czajkowski> thanks
[20:32] <pleia2> we use posterous to post to twitter, identica and facebook all at once, then create a loco directory entry and copy that into mailing list and forums posts
[20:32] <DarkwingDuck> Things in the team are going very well. We've had our... differences of opinions at times but, we have managed to sit down, take a few breaths and explain the logic behind things. People tend to respond to that.
[20:33] <popey> What about the financial side of things, do you pay for venues for hours?
[20:33] <DarkwingDuck> In San Diego, no, we have not had to as of yet.
[20:33] <DarkwingDuck> Well, San Diego area.
[20:33] <popey> you use starbucks and similar?
[20:33] <DarkwingDuck> Yes
[20:33] <czajkowski> DarkwingDuck: / pleia2 where do you see the team going/progressing in the next 2 years?
[20:33] <pleia2> there are a lot of independent coffee shops in california :)
[20:33] <popey> hah
[20:34] <popey> what time of day and day of week is most popular for Hours?
[20:34] <DarkwingDuck> I would like to expand the outreach to the massive amount of Unis here in California.
[20:34] <pleia2> in the bay area whenever we need to pay for a venue we team up with a LUG who handles costs, or a non-profit that can get us in for free as long as we promote them (again, here that's often partimus - upcoming solano stroll is paid for by berkeley lug under the partimus non-profit banner)
[20:35] <pleia2> popey: roseville (near the state capital) had a popular lunchtime ubuntu hour, but most are in the evening, 6-8PMish
[20:35] <popey> thanks
[20:35] <popey> I have no more questions
[20:35] <czajkowski> same here
[20:35] <DarkwingDuck> We do it (normally) on saturday mid day
[20:36] <itnet7> everything looks good to me
[20:36] <pleia2> czajkowski: I think just staying on track and keeping all communication lines open is what is most vital for our team, we've been growing lately and it's good
[20:36] <pleia2> so make sure we stay on track and take opportunities and volunteers as they come :) we're in a good position for that now
[20:36] <czajkowski> great stuff
[20:36] <leogg> no more questions from me
[20:36] <czajkowski> looks good to me
[20:36] <huats> looks very good to me too
[20:37] <leogg> yep, very nice job and great app
[20:37] <popey> ok
[20:37] <popey> #vote on Ubuntu California Team Re-Approval
[20:37] <meetingology> Please vote on: on Ubuntu California Team Re-Approval
[20:37] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:37] <itnet7> +1
[20:37] <meetingology> +1 received from itnet7
[20:37] <leogg> +1
[20:37] <meetingology> +1 received from leogg
[20:37] <popey> +1
[20:37] <czajkowski> +1
[20:38] <huats> +1
[20:38] <meetingology> +1 received from huats
[20:38] <AlanBell> um popey #voters
[20:38] <popey> yeah
[20:38] <popey> #endvote
[20:38] <meetingology> Voting ended on: on Ubuntu California Team Re-Approval
[20:38] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:38] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:38] <popey> hang on!
[20:38] <czajkowski> AlanBell: your voting bot is confusing :)
[20:38] <popey> it's +5
[20:38] <popey> plus paultag gave +1 via mailing list
[20:38] <popey> sorry, I screwed the #voters
[20:38] <czajkowski> +6 :)
[20:38] <popey> so basically, you're done :D
[20:38] <pleia2> thanks everyone :)
[20:38] <jtatum> Awesome!
[20:38] <popey> congratulations!
[20:38] <DarkwingDuck> Thank you
[20:38] <pleia2> see you in 2 years!
[20:38] <popey> haha
[20:38] <AlanBell> yay pleia2 and california
[20:39] <itnet7> Very good job, Go Cali!!
[20:39] <leogg> keep up the good work cali!
[20:39] <DarkwingDuck> See some of ya in Orlando.
[20:39] <AlanBell> czajkowski: user error
[20:39] <AndroUser> is it all over I just managed to join the channel
[20:39] <itnet7> Definitely DarkwingDuck !
[20:39] <DarkwingDuck> assuming my application gets approved (It should)
[20:40] <popey> #voters popey czajkowski leogg huats itnet7
[20:40] <meetingology> Current voters: czajkowski huats itnet7 leogg popey
[20:40] <popey> right!
[20:40] <popey> keeping to time nicely
[20:40] <popey> #topic Ubuntu Arizona Reapproval
[20:40] <meetingology> TOPIC: Ubuntu Arizona Reapproval
[20:40] <leogg> :D
[20:40] <popey> toddc: you about? ☺
[20:40] <toddc> Toddc here to represent azloco arizona team woot!
[20:40] <Dazed_75> o/
[20:40] <popey> Anyone else here for Arizona?
[20:40] <fuzzyvader> o/
[20:40] <scott_ev> The Hottest LoCo on Earth - The AZ LoCo - w00t w00t!!!
[20:40] <triunity> Go Todd!
[20:40] <Dazed_75> yes
[20:41] <bj0> o\
[20:41] <triunity> 1+
[20:41] <Yorokobi> o/
[20:41] <hutchnate> o/
[20:41] <czajkowski> hey folks
[20:41] <scott_ev> hiya
[20:41] <bj0> howdy
[20:41] <Dazed_75> greets
[20:41] <czajkowski> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ArizonaTeam/ApprovalApplicationrenewal
[20:42] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/ApprovalApplicationrenewal
[20:42] <popey> :D
[20:42] <popey> toddc: tell us about your install fests..
[20:42] <stuart> so did the UK soon ???
[20:42] <stuart> win
[20:42] <popey> stuart: yeah
[20:42] <popey> see #ubuntu-uk
[20:42] <toddc> it is a combined event wit attendence at 15+
[20:42] <czajkowski> toddc: why on the Kubuntu wiki and not on the main wiki, curious? All in Blue :)
[20:43] <toddc> our original application was in kbuntu
[20:43] <Dazed_75> so he copied and worked it there.  Does it matter for this?
[20:43] <popey> no
[20:43] <czajkowski> nope
[20:43] <czajkowski> I was just curious :)
[20:44] <Dazed_75> I was too :)
[20:44] <huats> I like the testimonial idea
[20:44] <itnet7> me too
[20:44] <scott_ev> Our install fests are handled two ways.  we have installfests thast we do alone - one per release of ubuntu, and one a month that we do in conjunction with the Phoenix Linux users Group once a month
[20:44] <toddc> np since this is my first I used it as a template
[20:44] <toddc> we laso have a monly server installfest also
[20:44] <Dazed_75> two/month with PLUG
[20:44] <scott_ev> oops
[20:45] <Dazed_75> I also do 2/year with SLUG and 2 others for retirement parks
[20:45] <czajkowski> I see ye've only started to use the LD in the last 2 months, http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-arizona/events/history
[20:45] <toddc> and several out of the local area Tucson
[20:45] <itnet7> Dazed_75: How many newcomers show up out of curiousity?
[20:46] <Dazed_75> itnet7: varies a lot from about 2 to 20
[20:46] <toddc> we are continuing to add events and are currently add one in prescoot az
[20:46] <scott_ev> Prescott
[20:46] <itnet7> Nice!
[20:47] <Dazed_75> Most installfests are a mix of installs, assists, and fixes or discussions.  Depends on user needs
[20:48] <leogg> I like the fact that you collaborate with other LUGs in the area
[20:48] <bj0> and sometimes random projects
[20:48] <popey> I agree leogg
[20:48] <toddc> we do a lot of that it helps everyone
[20:49] <czajkowski> toddc: how do you share out thing getting done ?? like getting in this application and getting events organised?
[20:50] <popey> toddc: your irc meetings seem to mostly consist of news dumps. Do the team find that valuable?
[20:50] <toddc> we  have a small group that is increasing slowly that gets the core things done
[20:50] <Dazed_75> Typically, we decide such things in the Sunday IRC or at installfest meetings
[20:50] <Yorokobi> popey, I find the news dumps valuable. fwiw
[20:50] <popey> it seems more like a newsletter than a meeting as such?
[20:50] <isz_id> as do I.
[20:50] <leogg> toddc, I don't see much activity on the forums or mailing lists... how do you communicate with each other on the team?
[20:51] <toddc> yes since most of our things are events
[20:51] <Dazed_75> We are considering fewer IRC meetings and trying for higher attendance bersus people reading the notes later
[20:51] <toddc> we use irc and our big blue button server for most communication
[20:51] <bj0> there is a lot more IRC communication than on the mailing list
[20:52] <Dazed_75> We are also considering how to do some face to face with everyone so distant
[20:52] <Dazed_75> The Valley is like 100 miles across
[20:52] <czajkowski> toddc: I ask as the team is currently unapproved, due to the team expring as no application was submitted
[20:52] <toddc> Former Team leaders said the it was handled or that they would guide us and did not followed thru
[20:52] <popey> That's unfortunate.
[20:53] <toddc> I took over 9 months ago
[20:53] <Dazed_75> Aye!
[20:53] <leogg> toddc, how many people do you have regularly on your IRC channel?
[20:53] <czajkowski> toddc: ok, but you really should have come to us, it's taken a long time
[20:53] <toddc> with a huge learning curve
[20:53] <scott_ev> it's been a real hinderance as we are somewhet flying blind here
[20:54] <toddc> I was more inthe the installfests but learning has been fun but slow
[20:54] <itnet7> Anytime you need some help or ideas you can ping anyone of us
[20:54] <Dazed_75> What kind of help could we get from the council?  I don't think we know
[20:54] <toddc> thanks will keep that in mind
[20:54] <popey> absolutely, we're here to help
[20:54] <scott_ev> I'm somewhat to blame as i took over after johnc4510 and didn't immediatly find out what we needed to do to stay curent
[20:54] <popey> lets talk about what the loco council does offline perhaps?
[20:55] <itnet7> Sure
[20:55] <toddc> ok thanks
[20:55] <popey> czajkowski / itnet7 / huats / leogg  do you have any other questions for the AZ team?
[20:55] <scott_ev> being the team's one Ubuntu member I should have known better
[20:55] <czajkowski> hmm no
[20:55] <Dazed_75> Is there a page that might describe what ways the council can help with ideas and such?
[20:55] <itnet7> toddc: I have joined your channel feel free to ping me anytime
[20:55] <popey> No worries scott_ev :D
[20:55] <leogg> no, I'm good
[20:55] <popey> ok, lets go then.
[20:55] <toddc> inet7 thanks will do
[20:56] <popey> #vote on Ubuntu Arizona Re-Approval
[20:56] <meetingology> Please vote on: on Ubuntu Arizona Re-Approval
[20:56] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[20:56] <popey> +1
[20:56] <meetingology> +1 received from popey
[20:56] <itnet7> +1
[20:56] <meetingology> +1 received from itnet7
[20:56] <popey> We have a +1 from paultag also
[20:56] <Dazed_75> Sory, while I've been involved with the loco activities, I only recently joined it
[20:56] <czajkowski> +0
[20:56] <leogg> +0
[20:56]  * popey tickles huats 
[20:57] <huats> +1
[20:57] <meetingology> +1 received from huats
[20:57] <popey> #endvote
[20:57] <meetingology> Voting ended on: on Ubuntu Arizona Re-Approval
[20:57] <meetingology> Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0
[20:57] <meetingology> Motion carried
[20:57] <popey> I make that 4
[20:57] <huats> sorry I was backlogging
[20:57] <scott_ev> nice, thanks you all
[20:57] <popey> So congratulations!
[20:57] <scott_ev> w00t
[20:57] <bj0> yey
[20:57] <scott_ev> we live again
[20:57] <Dazed_75> WOOT
[20:57] <hutchnate> w00t
[20:57] <triunity> Sweet!!! Thank you!!!!
[20:57] <fuzzyvader> wahoo!
[20:57] <pleia2> congrats AZ, I'll be in Phoenix over labor day weekend visiting family :)
[20:57] <itnet7> Congrats
[20:57] <scott_ev> nice pleia
[20:57] <bj0> you picked the hottest month for it pleia2 :)
[20:57] <scott_ev> where exactly?
[20:57] <popey> keep up the great work, and do get in touch if we can help at all
[20:58] <pleia2> bj0: haha, I also visited philly during a heat wave this year, it's how I roll
[20:58] <toddc> thank you and stop by and watch us get bigger
[20:58] <Dazed_75> Thanks, I am sure we will
[20:58] <popey> #endmeeting
[20:58] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Aug 16 20:58:14 2011 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot . (v 0.1.4)
[20:58] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-08-16-20.00.moin.txt
[20:58] <Yorokobi> Yay! Now, back to Splunk's conference ... :o
[20:58] <bj0> cool, thanks all
[20:58] <czajkowski> popey: thanks for chairing
[20:59] <itnet7> thanks popey !