[06:59] good morning [06:59] dholbach, good morning [07:00] hi philipballew [07:00] :) have a great day on the irc dude! [07:00] thanks :) [07:00] philipballew, good night! [07:01] * philipballew hopes someday to go to bed before the sun rises over the horizon [07:05] philipballew: come live here, sun doesnt really get over the horizon in winter :D [07:05] jussi, where is here [07:05] philipballew: north of finland :) [07:06] im told i trase back to norway. [07:06] here in ca it hit 100f [07:07] 38 Celsius then [07:07] jussi, is that hot for you? [07:07] ouch, very [07:08] Mind, its normal where Im from (australia). I just live here :D [07:08] the weather there. whats it like? [07:08] in australia or finland? [07:09] -25°C and 2 meters of snow in the winter is quite normal [07:09] i snowed 3 times here [07:09] yup [07:09] 3 inches each time [07:09] 3 meters = 9 feet, right? [07:09] yeah [07:09] erm 2 meters = 6 feet [07:10] 1 inch = 2.54 cm [07:11] jussi, do you like it there> [07:11] ? [07:12] strangely enough, I do - love it here :) [07:12] It seems like a nice area. Im thinking of leaving california sometime [07:12] something like this can happen if you leave your car for a cpouple of days... http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0JPSNaR7sqA/TTDPCbXftGI/AAAAAAAAH2E/ytp7_Ud4UpU/s1600/window.jpg [07:13] how do you get it out? [07:14] a spade and a brush :) [07:15] doesnt take long, but a garage is a really good thing to have here ;) [07:15] http://i.imgur.com/qlrHy.jpg I like this pic [07:15] it's been like that in southern finland for two consecutive winters now [07:15] usually we have less snow here :) [07:17] I met a man who has never seen snow last year [07:18] also owns no pants. just shorts [07:40] welcome back dholbach! [07:55] hey Laney - thanks :) [07:55] :-) [07:55] how was your trip? [07:55] morning ! [08:02] hi dholbach [08:04] hey ajmitch [08:05] Laney, it was great - a week in very relaxed North of Norway and a less relaxed week with travelling around Norway, Germany and Luxembourg where we visited loads of people - it was still lots of fun though :) [08:17] awesome [08:20] would love to visit norway some time . o O ( like this? http://www.northsea-cycle.com/ ) [08:22] Laney, nice === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [09:12] tumbleweed: can I directly subscribe archive for bug 826856 or should it first go through sponsoring again? [09:12] Launchpad bug 826856 in meld (Ubuntu) "FFe: sync meld 1.5.2-1 from debian experimental" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/826856 [09:15] jtaylor: I'm not sure about this myself, perhaps tumbleweed can answer this [09:16] in my experince it should be sponsored separately [09:16] (although release-team can self-approve, so I could have sponsored it too) [09:19] I subscribed sponsors [09:24] there, ubuntu-dev-tools uploaded. I thought it would be a quick 5 minute thing, but turned into an hour of pain, thanks to mox :/ [09:25] I'll request a sync later [09:43] can/can't (there was a discussion in #-release about that the other day) [09:47] Laney: oh, right, I think I misread what ScottK said in that conversation :) [09:47] it's ok for backports but not for release [09:49] yup [09:56] tumbleweed, after your last commit to the sponsoring page, a bunch of other code is unnecessary, I removed it in a merge proposal [10:30] dholbach: oh, thanks [10:30] did that api bug get worked around? [10:30] dholbach: btw, we appear to have broken teh "can-upload" detection by dropping authentication [10:30] ah [10:30] * tumbleweed seems to remember proposing it in the past, and someone telling me this would happen [10:31] ok, I'll remove my MP - can you propose something that readds the auth code with a comment why we need it? :) [10:31] so we don't re-remove it again :) [10:31] indeed [10:31] we should rather fix the bug [10:31] or find out if it is one [10:31] yeah, I'd also prefer a better workaround [10:32] or note the LP bug number [10:32] I'm sure it's filed already [10:32] * tumbleweed couldn't find one [10:32] oh [10:32] ask #lp? [10:32] #lp-dev is usually better for this kind of thing [10:33] yeah, except i'm not there :( [10:34] * tumbleweed does a little more digging first [10:38] Laney: so, isSourceUploadAllowed works unauthenticated, which can give us PPU rights. All we need are per-component upload rights, which we can hardcode to motu / core-dev membership [10:39] * tumbleweed doesn't hang out there either [10:41] does isS... only work for PPU? [10:41] yes [10:41] :( [10:41] well, packagesets too [10:43] actually I haven't tested non-packageset PPU. Any examples you can think of? [10:52] Laney: meh, it doesn't support PPU, just packageset [10:52] weird [10:53] did you ask in lp-dev? [10:53] yeah: 12:48 < lifeless> thats a good question [10:53] < lifeless> why shouldn't you be authenticated though ? [10:53] why /should/ you? :-) [10:54] that was kind of my response. The # then got distracted [10:55] basically the problem is that the permission entries aren't visible to unauthenticated users. We don't know why === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === yofel_ is now known as yofel === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan [12:15] tumbleweed: where is the bug? i'd like to subscribe [12:16] Laney: didn't file one. lifeless didn't seem very interested [12:17] :( [12:22] well [12:22] I said I'm not convinced its a bug [12:23] and separately that knowing who is running cron jobs is very useful when they go rogue [12:23] we only really support anonymous API access for folk doing experimentation in browsers etc - thats the primary anonymous use case. [12:26] lifeless: I wish that were better documented. I use anonymous API access whenever I can === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === jacob_ is now known as jacob === kklimonda is now known as Guest54756 === Guest54756 is now known as kklimonda === bdrung is now known as bdrung_vacation [18:34] Hello guys. Are debcheck results for Oneiric available anywhere? This page seems out of date - http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/debcheck/ [18:52] zul: ok so I almost have the stuff for the ARM pxe booting with cobbler [18:52] sweet [19:30] ups I just removed half my system in an attempt to install a i386 multiarch pacakge :( [19:31] I really ought to rad those apt reports better [19:31] the boring half anyway [19:38] so all installed again, I hope it does not explode on the next reboot :) === Amaranthus is now known as Amaranth [20:06] at least we know what happened to you when you disappear for a few days === almaisan-away is now known as al-maisan === al-maisan is now known as almaisan-away === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [22:05] Any awk experts in here? If so, I'd love if someone could show me an example of how to get the package names and versions listed in a Packages file. :-) [22:08] grep -E "^Package|^Version" package-file? [22:11] jtaylor, Looking to have the package name and version on the same line (and just the values, not the field names too). [22:15] cody-somerville: grep-dctrl | tbl-dctrl [22:15] with appropriate options [22:15] or tbl-dctrl right ahead, depending on whether you want to filter at all [22:18] tbl-dctrl -d\ -cPackage -cVersion -H < yourPackagesFile [22:19] * Rhonda . o O ( part of dctrl-tools )