[00:13] <h00k> acidrain has constantly been skirting !language, !ot, etc
[00:29] <rww> h00k: so kick him out
[00:30] <h00k> rww: what? Oh, he left.
[01:39] <bazhang> I'm using debian, but *this happens in Ubuntu, too!* so halp!
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[01:50] <bazhang> crosspost from -server
[01:52] <funkyHat> ugh
[02:37] <bazhang> people dont even try to pretend anymore
[02:37] <bazhang> just say "I'm suddenly using your_distro"
[03:37] <bazhang> how long has empathy been default? thought it was a while now
[03:38] <rww> bazhang: since 9.10
[03:38] <bazhang> augh
[03:38] <bazhang> theadmin handing out advice without actually knowing what is or is not in Ubuntu
[03:39] <bazhang> same with directly editing grub.cfg
[03:39] <bazhang> "it works in ARCH!"
[03:40] <Flannel> have a talk with him, shape up or ship out, etc.
[03:40] <Flannel> bad information is worse than no information.
[03:41] <bazhang> I've done so in the past, asked him to read the factoids for grub2 and others, but he has responded with: Like I care! and the like.
[03:41] <rww> so remove him
[03:43] <PerfieM> Kay, kids, lets git down to bsns
[03:44] <rww> Alrighty. You're now not banned in #ubuntu-offtopic; I expect you to follow our !guidelines if you choose to rejoin there. I'll go check on #ubuntu now.
[03:46] <PerfieM> If I dont follow guidelines, what happens?
[03:46] <rww> You get banned again
[03:46] <PerfieM> Oh
[03:46] <PerfieM> Thats sad
[03:47] <Flannel> PerfieM: It is. Which is why we'd prefer it if you followed the guidelines.
[03:47] <rww> I made the #ubuntu-offtopic banlist all nice and short. Making it long again would make me unhappy.
[03:47] <rww> anyways, the bantracker is (as usual) failing miserably at having usable documentation
[03:48] <rww> PerfieM: If I unban you from #ubuntu, will you stick to Ubuntu technical support topics and follow our guidelines?
[03:48] <PerfieM> rww: I make no promises, so I suggest you dont do that
[03:48] <rww> PerfieM: If you won't commit to that, then your ban will not be removed from there at this time.
[03:48] <PerfieM> Honesty is the best policy, amirite?
[03:49] <PerfieM> rww: no big D
[03:50] <Flannel> PerfieM: In the interest of being honest: we tend to view #ubuntu-offtopic as more of a privledge than #ubuntu.  So if you're not willing to make the effort to behave in #ubuntu, you should definately be on your best behavior in -offtopic.
[03:50] <PerfieM> Flannel: silly goose! I'm always on my best behavior!
[03:52] <rww> that's a bit depressing
[03:52] <PerfieM> ahahahahahahah
[03:52] <rww> Anyways, if there isn't anything else we can help you with, please have a safe and productive day
[03:52] <PerfieM> oh, rww, it will certainly be productive ;)
[04:36] <rww> the change there is s%Opera (Qt%Opera (Qt/GTK%. I recommend ignoring it.
[04:38] <rww> although I'm pondering removing some of the toolkit mentions from that factoid entirely
[04:45] <rww> !browsers
[04:46] <rww> there, much more factually correct.
[04:47] <rww> !browsers =~ s/command-line/terminal-based/
[09:25] <Tm_T> aww
[10:30] <Tm_T> !away > sayakb_away
[11:43] <XamDM> someone has band me in #ubuntu, i don't konw why, how can this be fixt ???
[11:44] <Tm_T> Hi Lars, you're sure you don't know why?
[11:45] <XamDM> Tm_T, yes i am sure, i hadn't postet anything this morning
[11:45] <IdleOne> lars bans are not removed daily,
[11:46] <XamDM> IdleOne, maybe, but why have i been band ??, woh hs done it ??
[11:47] <elky> lars, what makes you think this is not to do with your previous behaviour?
[11:47] <IdleOne> I banned you because you were ban evading. The reason for your multiple bans over the past few weeks are basically because you are unable to follow channel rules
[11:47] <XamDM> ban evading ??
[11:48] <IdleOne> you have been given the link for appeals, feel free to email the ircc and discuss it with them. The ban will not be removed
[11:48] <XamDM> IdleOne, this has been the first time beeing band
[11:48] <elky> Hmm, this kind of dishonesty isn't going to help any appeals.
[11:48] <IdleOne> !appeals > XamDM
[11:49] <IdleOne> Please part the channel now. Have a good day.
[11:50] <XamDM> IdleOne, i absolutly don't understand this, i am in this irc for years i never did something wrong and so i don't understand whats going on here
[11:51] <IdleOne> lars, please don't lie to us. we are a bit crazy but not a single one of us in this channel is stupid.
[11:51] <XamDM> i don't lie, so tell me what i have done ??
[11:52] <IdleOne> is your name Lars?
[11:52] <XamDM> i loked in this morning a few times without typing because of problems with xchat
[11:52] <XamDM> IdleOne, yes it is
[11:52] <elky> is your last initial T?
[11:52] <IdleOne> then you will remain banned
[11:52] <XamDM> my name is Lars Hunaeus
[11:52] <XamDM> no T
[11:53] <XamDM> maybe you catched the wrong one ore somebody stole my nick ??
[11:53] <XamDM> but the nick is registered
[11:56] <XamDM> i use this nick since Ubuntu 8.04, so i don't beleave that somebody used it, i really don't understand whats going on here
[11:57] <IdleOne> XamDM: Please hold a moment
[11:57] <elky> well, if you are lars hunaeus, you'd be able to update your xing profile.
[11:57] <XamDM> of course i am
[11:58] <Pici> We've had a lot of issues from a user with the same name from a similar IP, so excuse our oddness.
[11:58]  * Pici leaves the rest up to the other ops
[11:58] <elky> XamDM, the thing is we have a lars who has the same isp who causes lots of problems. If you can help us make sure we wouldn't be exempting the wrong lars, we can help you
[11:58] <XamDM> what shell i do ??
[11:59] <elky> http://www.xing.com/profile/Lars_Hunaeus is you?
[12:00] <XamDM> Yes
[12:00] <IdleOne> XamDM: I apologize for calling you a liar. Like the other ops said we have had many issues with a different user from same ISP.
[12:01] <XamDM> IdleOne, no problem if we can fix this, by the way lars is a often used name in germany and t-online our biggest isp ....
[12:01] <XamDM> and what is ban evading ??
[12:02] <IdleOne> circumventing a ban by changing your host in one way or another
[12:04] <XamDM> IdleOne, so he often changes his IP ??, if so you will notice that mine just changes once every 24h
[12:05] <elky> XamDM, I've just signed up to xing, I'm going to PM your my profile url and you can message me with it? Then we will know :)
[12:05] <XamDM> ok
[12:07] <elky> XamDM, thanks so much for working with us there.
[12:07] <elky> IdleOne, feel free to give him an exempt :)
[12:08] <IdleOne> XamDM: Please try to join #ubuntu now
[12:08] <elky> sorry for all the confusion. it's never easy dealing with silly kids who have too much time on their hands :)
[12:08] <IdleOne> XamDM: thank you for your understanding.
[12:08] <XamDM> thank you, log in worked so far
[12:10] <XamDM> cu
[12:10] <IdleOne> have a good day.
[12:12] <bazhang> and he quit
[12:12] <IdleOne> :/
[12:12] <elky> no, lost connection it looks like
[12:35] <bazhang> is using unetbootin to get windows 7 on a usb stick an #ubuntu issue?
[12:35] <IdleOne> no
[12:47] <elky> ... you can't boot windows from usb.
[12:47] <elky> it disconnects all usb devices at the "configuring settings" screen to configure them.
[12:49] <elky> i mean, unless they *completely* rewrote it for 7...
[12:49] <elky> it's absolutely not possible for xp, not sure about beyond that.
[13:01] <gord> i'v booted the windows 7 installer from a usb one late and annoying night when windows died on me, but i'm not sure about booting a live image kind of thing
[13:01] <gord> this was through a hacky way though too, community effort
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[13:05] <bazhang> ban evading unless rww removed it
[13:05] <IdleOne> looks like it was removed
[13:06] <bazhang> well trolling anyway,so back
[13:08] <bazhang> augh
[13:09] <bazhang> eir PM'd me I need to get up to speed on how to respond to the pm
[13:33] <bazhang> * [g0t] (~doe@cpe-94-253-198-162.zg2.cable.xnet.hr): johny is the googlebot now used to be g0th
[14:15] <ikonia> bazhang: is g0th in #kubuntu the google bot guy ?
[14:15] <bazhang> ikonia, was, now it's g0t
[14:16] <ikonia> so g0th in #kubuntu isn't g0t
[14:16] <bazhang> suspiciously close nick though, and no response other than the !google
[14:17] <ikonia> are they on the same network ? I can't see a /last on g0t
[14:18] <ikonia> ok, totally different
[14:18] <bazhang> same exact results / syntax though
[14:18] <ikonia> what do you mean
[14:19] <ikonia> g0t is on g0t [~doe@cpe-94-253-198-162.zg2.cable.xnet.hr
[14:19] <ikonia> with a totally different ident
[14:19] <ikonia> g0th [~jonas@217-162-231-125.dynamic.hispeed.ch]
[14:19] <ikonia> looks totally different (beyond the first few letters of the nick)
[14:20] <ikonia> g0t responds in #freenode too, so it's not just setup for #ubuntu
[14:22] <tsimpson> g0t is not g0th, or vice-versa
[14:22] <ikonia> agreed
[14:23] <ikonia> also responds in pm, so it looks generic, although I've never seen the owner active
[15:17] <bazhang> heh
[15:18] <jpds> Troll detected.
[15:18] <bazhang> aww
[15:23] <bazhang> he's cycling his questions now
[15:30]  * Pici palms
[15:31] <jpds> Pici: Nothing wrong with a Palm Pre.
[15:32] <jpds> Except maybe the battery life.
[15:32] <bazhang> oof
[15:32] <Pici> And that LjL uses one
[15:32] <ikonia> how about a palm pilot ?
[15:35] <jpds>              
[15:35] <jpds>  _ __   ___
[15:35] <jpds> | '_ \ / _ \
[15:35] <jpds> | | | | (_) |
[15:35] <jpds> |_| |_|\___/
[15:35] <jpds>              
[15:35] <jpds> I always wondered what '/exec -o sl' would do.
[15:36] <Pici> me too.
[15:37]  * jpds tests.
[15:37] <popey> 16:37:34 <@popey> Error opening terminal: tty.
[15:37] <popey> ☹
[15:38] <jpds> Damn it.
[15:38]  * popey damns it
[15:38] <Myrtti> you are funny
[15:39] <bazhang> vidalia seems to be spreading FUD
[15:45] <jpds> Myrtti: Occupational hazard of being British.
[15:58] <ikonia> GYM TIME :)
[18:58] <tzily> EAT DICK HAHA
[18:59] <rww> good morning tzily
[18:59] <rww> nice chap.
[19:02] <rww> !ops
[19:05] <rww> topyli: erm.
[19:05] <rww> topyli: that ban mask is ever so slightly too wide.
[19:05] <charlie-tca> effective though
[19:06] <rww> Feel free to leave it, it'll make our lives easier.
[19:06] <topyli> heh
[19:06] <tsimpson> well, +i would have confused ubottu less
[19:06] <topyli> i wonder how that happened
[19:06] <rww> we do enjoy confusing ubottu around here
[19:07] <rww> fail
[19:07] <tsimpson> try again
[19:07] <topyli> i wonder how that happened
[19:07] <topyli> grr
[19:07] <topyli> maybe i should go to bed
[19:07] <rww> that may be useful :P
[19:08] <rww> feel free to repeat that performance in -ot before you go
[19:08] <topyli> there's a similar ban?
[19:08] <topyli> oh, not *yet*
[21:04] <bazhang> Ultimate Edition = #ultimateedition
[21:05] <bazhang> a more popular one now is trisquel at #trisquel
[21:05] <Pici> Didn't we discuss switching !variants to a wiki page and putting all the support data there?
[21:07] <bazhang> support for the other distros? what about just linking what *is* supported
[21:08] <bazhang> afaict , everything but MINT has theirs here on freenode
[21:16] <Pici> because the list is getting longer
[21:16] <bazhang> and only a fraction of what is out there
[21:20] <bazhang> the alternative iso on Windows,   <--- what!
[23:01] <bazhang> heh