| _aaron_ | what packages are included on the cd | 00:45 |
|---|---|---|
| arrrghhh | _aaron_, just the basic ones to get the install going | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not aware of any lists tho. it's highly recommended to install with internet access available. | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | it'll make your life 10,000x easier at least. | 00:50 |
| onekenthomas | at least :) | 00:51 |
| _aaron_ | arrrghhh, i Need dhcp samba server and cups | 00:51 |
| _aaron_ | all locally | 00:51 |
| qman__ | those things are probably on the list, all being options in tasksel at the end of the install | 00:52 |
| qman__ | if they aren't, you'll have to download the packages manually, which is a pain | 00:52 |
| qman__ | but it could be a lot worse, packages.ubuntu.com makes it easy to search | 00:52 |
| _aaron_ | qman__, i've been asking for that website you are the first person to tell me about it. Thanks | 00:54 |
| qman__ | _aaron_, honestly though, the best way to do it is to install a net-connected system, then copy all the packages out of /var/cache/apt/archives | 00:55 |
| qman__ | after you set it up the way you want | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | but you can download packages manually if you insist | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | you'll just have fun with all the dependencies.... | 00:56 |
| qman__ | you'll be dependency hunting for a long time | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:56 |
| _aaron_ | thanks I do understand. is there a guide to configure samba server from command line | 00:58 |
| twb | _aaron_: there is on linked from /topic | 00:58 |
| _aaron_ | ok talk to you guys in about 2-3 hours let you know how it goes. just like my linux professor said to me linux is free if your time is free. | 01:01 |
| onekenthomas | good luck | 01:01 |
| * onekenthomas is confused by this idea, "free time" | 01:02 | |
| _aaron_ | if your time doesn't cost you anything | 01:02 |
| arrrghhh | evidently your linux professor never tried to fix a BSoD :P | 01:03 |
| qman__ | all systems need setup, maintenance, and repair | 01:04 |
| qman__ | and trust me | 01:05 |
| qman__ | windows doesn't take any less effort (read: money) to set up, maintain, or repair | 01:05 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 01:06 |
| onekenthomas | especially if you count... | 01:06 |
| qman__ | the main barrier I see in my line of work is proprietary third party software | 01:06 |
| arrrghhh | yea. that's always fun to deal with | 01:08 |
| qman__ | BS&A, FundBalance, LEIN, CLEMIS | 01:08 |
| arrrghhh | the more specialized the field, the less open alternatives exist. | 01:08 |
| qman__ | many of those still won't even work with the latest windows software | 01:08 |
| onekenthomas | .Z | 01:08 |
| qman__ | constantly hacking and downgrading to get it to work | 01:08 |
| onekenthomas | 2 levels of emulation, that sort of thing | 01:09 |
| qman__ | the best part is when they depend on post-EOL Microsoft products | 01:10 |
| qman__ | for their latest version, not even considered legacy | 01:11 |
| qman__ | but that's neither here nor there | 01:11 |
| qman__ | point is, all software costs you labor | 01:11 |
| qman__ | linux just has the up front advantage | 01:11 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 01:12 |
| onekenthomas | plus it's just better for your brain :) | 01:12 |
| qman__ | a typical Microsoft setup for 10-20 users is in the five digit price range just for licenses | 01:12 |
| qman__ | they just hide it really well so most people don't notice | 01:13 |
| arrrghhh | in our environment, i prefer the linux boxes just because the security updates for windows are crazy. our linux boxes they treat like appliances, cuz a lot of 'em are delivered like that from the vendor (cisco...) | 01:14 |
| arrrghhh | so i'm constantly battling with my windows boxes... it's not that they're less stable, just always getting these updates. linux does too, but for some reason we just don't update 'em unless we hit a bug or we're doing a big update. | 01:15 |
| qman__ | with the exception of internet facing systems, it's just not important | 01:16 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 01:16 |
| arrrghhh | none of these boxes (that i manage) face the 'net | 01:16 |
| qman__ | when you don't have to worry about Joe User getting the latest virus off facebook, updates become so much easier to manage | 01:16 |
| arrrghhh | our audit dept is crazy | 01:17 |
| twb | arrrghhh: so what you're saying is that your linux boxes are vulnerable to known, patched, exploits | 01:17 |
| arrrghhh | all of our windows servers have to get updates | 01:17 |
| arrrghhh | twb, yes | 01:17 |
| arrrghhh | some of our vendors require such things | 01:17 |
| arrrghhh | like... cisco. we don't have root access to the boxs | 01:17 |
| arrrghhh | boxes* | 01:17 |
| arrrghhh | they're sold as appliances... | 01:17 |
| arrrghhh | literally | 01:17 |
| twb | Well, if you don't have root you can't fix it, but it's still a problem | 01:18 |
| arrrghhh | i've seen that in many cases. when i built cable head-ends, the boxes that would do the emergency broadcast updates were running ancient RHEL distros | 01:18 |
| qman__ | it is | 01:18 |
| qman__ | but in the grand scheme, it's just not that big a deal | 01:18 |
| arrrghhh | nope | 01:18 |
| arrrghhh | if it works, who cares is the theory | 01:18 |
| qman__ | many of the networks I work on, we have windows servers that haven't been patched in months, even years | 01:18 |
| arrrghhh | better than updating and breaking something or disrupting service. | 01:18 |
| qman__ | because they don't want to spend the money on a day for us to update it and fix the problems that happen | 01:19 |
| arrrghhh | qman__, we have a few. somehow we've managed to get a few thru. | 01:19 |
| arrrghhh | we still have dual pIII's on win2kserver | 01:19 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 01:19 |
| arrrghhh | our voice architecture is so... arcane. | 01:19 |
| arrrghhh | it's getting a serious update | 01:19 |
| qman__ | standard policy, never update a blackberry enterprise server without scheduled maintenance | 01:19 |
| qman__ | because it always, always breaks | 01:20 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 01:20 |
| arrrghhh | twb, so what could you do in that case | 01:20 |
| arrrghhh | hands are tied... | 01:20 |
| arrrghhh | so long as it works, i don't really want to mess with it personally. the services it provides are too necessary to worry about updating it.. | 01:21 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes old proprietary stuff won't work with updated crap. i'm dreading all of the servers we're putting in that have win2k3. | 01:21 |
| arrrghhh | that's going EOL soon... | 01:22 |
| arrrghhh | or did it already? i can't remember. | 01:22 |
| qman__ | we're only just now moving away from our web server, a 2003 box that hasn't been updated in 11 months, running Plesk 8.6 | 01:22 |
| qman__ | with a public IP, no firewall | 01:22 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 01:22 |
| qman__ | that decision was made long before my time | 01:22 |
| arrrghhh | our VRU doesn't have a net cxn, again. just a dummy machine that responds to DTMF input | 01:22 |
| arrrghhh | it just connects with SO much... | 01:22 |
| qman__ | oh, and with no backups either | 01:23 |
| arrrghhh | updating it would break stuff all to hell | 01:23 |
| arrrghhh | lol no backups | 01:23 |
| arrrghhh | i'd like to say all our stuff is backed up in some way shape or form. but i bet there's a few things out there that aren't... i know the boxes i'm responsible for are. | 01:23 |
| qman__ | I managed to grab the website files recently, but the databases and mailboxes still aren't backed up | 01:25 |
| qman__ | if those drives crash, that stuff is just plain gone | 01:25 |
| qman__ | and trying to not rack up a huge over bandwidth bill in the process, since we already went over before I started | 01:26 |
| arrrghhh | sounds like fun... :P | 01:26 |
| twb | qman__: sneakernet | 01:26 |
| qman__ | in a datacenter an hour away, which I don't yet have access to | 01:27 |
| twb | Suck it up, princess. | 01:27 |
| qman__ | we're moving the sites off it as soon as we can, but you know how that goes | 01:28 |
| qman__ | it could be months before we're done | 01:28 |
| qman__ | fingers crossed | 01:28 |
| qman__ | it's the only thing I really don't like about my job, hands are tied way too often | 01:29 |
| arrrghhh | an hour away | 01:31 |
| arrrghhh | well our main data center is in our building | 01:31 |
| arrrghhh | the alternate one is several hundred miles away | 01:31 |
| arrrghhh | never been thar | 01:31 |
| arrrghhh | but yea, most companies your hands will be tied for one reason or anothe | 01:32 |
| arrrghhh | r* | 01:32 |
| qman__ | it's one thing to have to work around a bad system | 01:34 |
| qman__ | it's entirely another to be unable to spend any time working around said bad system, because I work by the hour | 01:34 |
| qman__ | anything that's not spent directly fixing something that doesn't work, simply doesn't get done | 01:35 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 01:35 |
| arrrghhh | oh i wish i worked by the hour | 01:35 |
| twb | qman__: BTDTBTTS | 01:38 |
| zulax | is there any edit that needs to be done on 10.04 server for networking | 01:45 |
| zulax | i got intertent while installing the server but now i dont have an ip | 01:45 |
| zulax | init.d/netwrking restart gives me no dhcpoffers received | 01:45 |
| arrrghhh | you have a dhcp server somewheres? | 01:46 |
| arrrghhh | a router? | 01:46 |
| zulax | yes | 01:46 |
| arrrghhh | i would recommend using a static IP if it's a server... | 01:46 |
| zulax | interfaces file has iface eth0 inet dhcp | 01:46 |
| arrrghhh | well yea | 01:47 |
| arrrghhh | no dhcpoffers means that | 01:47 |
| arrrghhh | it received no offers from a DHCP server... | 01:47 |
| zulax | but why would that be? | 01:47 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 01:47 |
| arrrghhh | dhcp server issues | 01:47 |
| zulax | is it router config? | 01:47 |
| arrrghhh | network issues | 01:47 |
| arrrghhh | cable issues | 01:47 |
| zulax | the cable works fine on my other box | 01:47 |
| zulax | and i get ip in other box too | 01:47 |
| arrrghhh | why are you using dhcp on a server...? | 01:48 |
| arrrghhh | how big is the DHCP range? | 01:48 |
| zulax | well excuse my networking ignorance | 01:49 |
| zulax | i disabled dhcp while installing | 01:49 |
| onekenthomas | ooops | 01:49 |
| zulax | dhcp range, now thats in router config right? | 01:50 |
| arrrghhh | yes, assuming your router is your dhcp server... | 01:54 |
| arrrghhh | i'm going to assume it is | 01:54 |
| zulax | yes | 01:54 |
| bazhang | !crosspost | zulax | 01:54 |
| ubottu | zulax: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. | 01:54 |
| arrrghhh | ha, did he ask the same question in the regular channel... | 01:55 |
| arrrghhh | is it server or desktop? | 01:55 |
| bazhang | and in -offtopic | 01:55 |
| jodie | any one using kvm with ubuntu 10.04 LTS? | 01:56 |
| bazhang | zulax, you've been asked to stop crossposting three times now | 01:56 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 01:57 |
| arrrghhh | super crosspost. | 01:57 |
| zulax | that was all before i was told | 02:01 |
| zulax | and on here i was just responding, | 02:02 |
| zulax | by bad | 02:02 |
| zulax | so i will stick to this channel as there are fewer ppl than on ubuntu | 02:02 |
| zulax | i made it a static ip, now i have an ip but cant ping still | 02:02 |
| arrrghhh | is it the desktop or server edition | 02:05 |
| zulax | server | 02:05 |
| zulax | just this install has given me this issue, previous were all charms | 02:06 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 02:06 |
| arrrghhh | did you pick an IP outside of the DHCP range | 02:06 |
| arrrghhh | and did you specify a default gateway | 02:07 |
| arrrghhh | can you ping the default gateway? | 02:07 |
| zulax | i hope i did | 02:07 |
| zulax | lemme see that | 02:07 |
| zulax | but the thing i dont understand right now is if its configured to get ip from my router | 02:07 |
| zulax | why would i necessarily need a static ip | 02:07 |
| zulax | (atleast for now) | 02:07 |
| arrrghhh | you should be able to get an IP from DHCP assuming everything else network wise is good | 02:08 |
| qman__ | it doesn't, but most of the things you'd need a server for won't do you any good if the IP keeps changing | 02:08 |
| zulax | yes, thats true | 02:08 |
| zulax | i will see thanks for helping guys | 02:09 |
| jodie | any one using kvm with ubuntu 10.04 LTS? | 02:10 |
| _aaron_ | how do I check in terminal to see what services I have running/installed | 02:11 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | htop? | 02:11 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | or just top | 02:11 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | shows what processes are running | 02:11 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | but by "services" what do you mean? | 02:12 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | like apache2, mysqld, etc.? | 02:12 |
| _aaron_ | want to check to see if my DHCP is running | 02:12 |
| _aaron_ | my server | 02:12 |
| arrrghhh | ps -A |grep dhcp | 02:12 |
| TheEvilPhoenix | ^ | 02:14 |
| _aaron_ | arrrghhh, the command ran, however nothing showed up | 02:14 |
| arrrghhh | then i would say the answer is "no" | 02:14 |
| qman__ | use sudo | 02:14 |
| arrrghhh | orly | 02:14 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i don't think about that with ps... | 02:15 |
| qman__ | sudo ps aux | grep dhcp | 02:15 |
| arrrghhh | aux'll show a lot more that's for sure. | 02:15 |
| qman__ | you'll get one hit for your grep | 02:16 |
| _aaron_ | and it did | 02:16 |
| qman__ | what else you might be after | 02:16 |
| qman__ | sudo service dhcp status | 02:16 |
| qman__ | or dhcp3-server | 02:17 |
| qman__ | use tab completion | 02:17 |
| _aaron_ | qman__, unreconized command | 02:18 |
| qman__ | it works on everything these days | 02:18 |
| arrrghhh | tab complete ftw | 02:18 |
| _aaron_ | qman__, unreconized service* sorry | 02:18 |
| qman__ | yeah, it's probably not called dhcp | 02:18 |
| arrrghhh | _aaron_, well that begs the question - do you have a dhcp server installed? | 02:18 |
| qman__ | like this | 02:18 |
| qman__ | sudo service dhcp[TAB] status | 02:19 |
| arrrghhh | it is dhcp3-server | 02:19 |
| arrrghhh | well, should be i guess i should say... | 02:19 |
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| _aaron_ | it is there at least in the etc and the config is there too | 02:20 |
| qman__ | configuration files don't mean it's installed | 02:20 |
| qman__ | use tab completion on the command like I explained, that will tell you what it's called, and you can run it | 02:20 |
| qman__ | if it doesn't do anything, it's not installed | 02:20 |
| _aaron_ | found it | 02:21 |
| _aaron_ | it's called isc-dhcp-server | 02:21 |
| _aaron_ | ok thanks now i just have to fix my config | 02:22 |
| arrrghhh | isc eh | 02:22 |
| arrrghhh | not sure what that is | 02:22 |
| qman__ | a different DHCP server | 02:23 |
| qman__ | mine runs dhcp3-server | 02:23 |
| arrrghhh | well obviously :P | 02:23 |
| arrrghhh | mine is as well | 02:23 |
| _aaron_ | it was the only dhcp that was availible on the server disk | 02:24 |
| arrrghhh | huh | 02:27 |
| arrrghhh | okie | 02:27 |
| arrrghhh | didn't get it connected to the 'net eh? :P | 02:28 |
| qman__ | judging by his earlier comments it's for coursework | 02:28 |
| qman__ | working completely offline has no relevance to real-world applications, but unfortunately schools don't seem to get that | 02:29 |
| qman__ | even if your system will be offline, you can still get online to prepare it first | 02:29 |
| qman__ | and for the very, very few cases where that's not true | 02:30 |
| qman__ | the application has to be so niche that it's beyond sysadmin education | 02:31 |
| _aaron_ | want to know the best part | 02:31 |
| _aaron_ | he doesn't even know anything about linux | 02:31 |
| arrrghhh | what, the prof? | 02:31 |
| _aaron_ | yes | 02:31 |
| arrrghhh | awesome. | 02:31 |
| _aaron_ | he told me that he will give me my networking credits and my keyboarding credits if i can pull this off | 02:32 |
| _aaron_ | lol | 02:32 |
| _aaron_ | i've done it before with LTSP and edubuntu so i figured why not | 02:33 |
| _aaron_ | i'll be right back after a smoke because i need help with my DHCP.conf | 02:36 |
| _aaron_ | it's saying that my netmask is wrong | 02:47 |
| _aaron_ | subnet 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 | 02:47 |
| _aaron_ | i'm going to ask in #ubuntu Just to let you know | 02:51 |
| qman__ | that is a valid netmask, it's probably a syntax error | 03:02 |
| _aaron_ | how all I change was the numbers of the address | 03:03 |
| _aaron_ | it says "bad subnet number/mask combination" | 03:05 |
| _aaron_ | This dhcpd.conf is making me mad now, please help me | 03:37 |
| _aaron_ | qman__, are you there | 03:51 |
| lickalott | smatter wit it? | 03:52 |
| _aaron_ | lickalott, it says that my subnet.mask combination is bad, subnet 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 | 03:53 |
| _aaron_ | lickalott, it says that the error is with the 0 at the end of the netmask | 03:54 |
| lickalott | hrrm | 04:38 |
| lickalott | did you get dhcp3 server? | 04:41 |
| _aaron_ | lickalott, fixed that error but need to bind it to my adapter | 05:11 |
| lickalott | what does ifconfig show? | 05:22 |
| lickalott | more /etc/network/interfaces post the info for the interface you're talking about | 05:24 |
| Guest41196 | hello | 05:29 |
| Guest41196 | r u thre | 05:29 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #827129 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.4.7~dfsg-1ubuntu3.7 failed to install/upgrade: подпроцесс установлен сценарий post-installation возвратил код ошибки 10" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/827129 | 06:01 |
| tommy_nmw | how | 07:05 |
| tommy_nmw | I got the error. "root@ubuntuserver:/# apt-get install phpmyadmin Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Couldn't find package phpmyadmin internet is fine" | 07:05 |
| tommy_nmw | hi | 07:06 |
| tommy_nmw | hi friends | 07:08 |
| tommy_nmw | I have internet working. what do i do ? | 07:08 |
| greppy | tommy_nmw: do you have universe enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list ? | 07:11 |
| tommy_nmw | greppy: how could I do ? | 07:11 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #827151 in cyrus-sasl2 (main) "Annoying log message "DIGEST-MD5 common mech free"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/827151 | 07:11 |
| tommy_nmw | greppy: I dont know how to check | 07:12 |
| tommy_nmw | hello | 07:18 |
| greppy | !paste | 07:19 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 07:19 |
| tommy_nmw | any body to help me? | 07:19 |
| greppy | use paste.ubuntu.com to post the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list file. | 07:19 |
| tommy_nmw | alternatively, how can I install phpmyadmin using manual zip file ? | 07:23 |
| _aaron_ | I would like help with my DHCP.conf | 07:25 |
| tommy_nmw | hi | 07:27 |
| tommy_nmw | how could I do that? | 07:27 |
| Daviey | Ursinha: not quite.. | 07:27 |
| _aaron_ | tommy_nmw, were you talking to me | 07:28 |
| tommy_nmw | yes all of friends here | 07:29 |
| _aaron_ | tommy_nmw, i have wrote my own dhcp.conf and when i try to start the server I get an error | 07:31 |
| tommy_nmw | _aaron_: SORRY arron, I dont know much about dhcp.conf | 07:32 |
| _aaron_ | tommy_nmw, what i get is not configured on any interface | 07:32 |
| tommy_nmw | _aaron_: so configure first | 07:33 |
| _aaron_ | tommy_nmw, how | 07:33 |
| tommy_nmw | _aaron_: auto eth0 | 07:34 |
| _aaron_ | tommy_nmw, in what file | 07:34 |
| tommy_nmw | _aaron_: /etc/network/interface | 07:35 |
| _aaron_ | tommy_nmw, now i have to restart networking correct | 07:38 |
| tommy_nmw | _aaron_: yes | 07:39 |
| _aaron_ | tommy_nmw, how do i do that | 07:40 |
| _aaron_ | tommy_nmw, sudo FOO restart | 07:40 |
| _aaron_ | tommy_nmw, sudo service FOO restart | 07:40 |
| tommy_nmw | _aaron_: /etc/init.d/networking restart | 07:41 |
| _aaron_ | tommy_nmw, thanks been a while | 07:41 |
| tommy_nmw | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/667068/ | 07:43 |
| tommy_nmw | hi who could help me? | 07:43 |
| _aaron_ | tommy_nmw, ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0 | 07:47 |
| _aaron_ | tommy_nmw, what version of ubuntu are you using | 07:47 |
| tommy_nmw | _aaron_:10.04 LTS | 07:48 |
| tommy_nmw | _aaron_: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-and-configure-dhcp-server-in-ubuntu-server.html | 07:48 |
| Daviey | tommy_nmw: please pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list | 07:48 |
| trapmax | =) | 07:49 |
| _aaron_ | tommy_nmw, thanks i found my problems i think | 07:51 |
| tommy_nmw | _aaron_: I came here to ask for help for my problem. Now you gave me new problem | 07:54 |
| tommy_nmw | _aaron_: I lost my way | 07:54 |
| greppy | tommy_nmw: it's the same thing I asked you to do. | 07:54 |
| greppy | !paste | tommy_nmw | 07:54 |
| ubottu | tommy_nmw: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 07:54 |
| tommy_nmw | Daviey: Dear Daviey , sorry for delay. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/667076/ | 07:55 |
| huats | morning | 07:55 |
| tommy_nmw | ubottu: I am doing so | 07:56 |
| ubottu | tommy_nmw: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 07:56 |
| tommy_nmw | greppy: I am doing so. excuse me | 07:56 |
| tommy_nmw | ubottu: I don't think so | 07:57 |
| ubottu | tommy_nmw: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 07:57 |
| trapmax | could one store eg. bashrc files for users in ldap? | 07:58 |
| Daviey | tommy_nmw: interesting, can you apt-get update to update the local cache, then install pastebinit with, apt-get install pastebinit,then "apt-get policy phpmyadmin | pastebinit" | 07:58 |
| greppy | tommy_nmw: try "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin" | 07:58 |
| tommy_nmw | ubottu:don't repeat like idiot bot. Be an intelligent bot !!! | 07:58 |
| ubottu | tommy_nmw: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 07:58 |
| tommy_nmw | Daviey: I would try bro. I tried apt-get pastebinit . but got the same error | 07:59 |
| Daviey | tommy_nmw: apt-get install pastebinit ? | 08:01 |
| tommy_nmw | Daviey: yes | 08:02 |
| tommy_nmw | Daviey: after I tried, apt-get update, it seems fine | 08:02 |
| tommy_nmw | Daviey: Let me wait and check , bro | 08:02 |
| Daviey | tommy_nmw: Great, in other news are you my long lost brother? | 08:04 |
| tommy_nmw | Daviey: what? | 08:06 |
| _aaron_ | Daviey, Can I be your long lost brother too? | 08:07 |
| Ursinha | lol | 08:07 |
| trapmax | the original band of brothers | 08:07 |
| Daviey | _aaron_: Depends, call me bro until i want to slap someone - lets see how it goes :) | 08:08 |
| _aaron_ | Daviey, ok no worries bro | 08:09 |
| Daviey | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH | 08:09 |
| jamespage | morning all | 08:09 |
| Ursinha | rofl | 08:09 |
| Ursinha | morning folks | 08:09 |
| _aaron_ | Daviey, lol | 08:09 |
| Daviey | Good morning jamespage ! | 08:09 |
| _aaron_ | Good morning to all, and to all a good day | 08:10 |
| _aaron_ | hey bro are you still awake | 08:12 |
| ubuntudude | Daviey: is that you http://twitter.com/#!/daviey ? | 08:13 |
| Myrtti | looks like 'im | 08:14 |
| Ursinha | Myrtti: long time no see you on irc :) | 08:15 |
| _aaron_ | hopfuly i'm not going to be up for too much longer as long as i can get this stupid dhcp server working right and if i finish my jolt cola | 08:16 |
| Myrtti | Ursinha: it happens ;-) | 08:17 |
| ubuntudude | Daviey: hi | 08:38 |
| twb | twitter has shebangs? | 08:46 |
| Daviey | ubuntudude: o/ | 08:47 |
| ubuntudude | Daviey: what? | 08:47 |
| Daviey | ubuntudude: you said "Hi". | 08:48 |
| Daviey | wassup? | 08:48 |
| ubuntudude | Daviey: is that you http://twitter.com/#!/daviey ? | 08:56 |
| Daviey | ubuntudude: yes, why> | 08:57 |
| Daviey | ? | 08:57 |
| ubuntudude | Daviey: nothing bro. | 08:57 |
| ubuntudude | hi all how to point my server to proxy ? | 08:58 |
| pyghassen | hi there | 09:13 |
| pyghassen | I JUST have a question about whether a process such as apache or postgres will start after a reboot? | 09:15 |
| milamber | pyghassen: for the most part, yes | 09:17 |
| ubuntudude | hi all how to point my server to proxy ? | 09:17 |
| milamber | pyghassen: specifically apache and postgre - yes | 09:17 |
| milamber | ubuntudude: can you be more specific? | 09:18 |
| pyghassen | I know if you update-rc.d apache2 defaults will start automatically | 09:19 |
| pyghassen | but are they accessible from the client? | 09:19 |
| pyghassen | I mean when you start your server without opening any user session | 09:20 |
| ubuntudude | mack1e: for the time being it is ok, if i go back home, I need to change proxy settings again to get internet. so I dont know where to change. | 09:21 |
| pyghassen | please I need an answer so I can proceed | 09:23 |
| milamber | pyghassen: yes, if i understand your question correctly. they start automatically, they are not dependent on a user being logged in. | 09:23 |
| pyghassen | really milamber | 09:23 |
| milamber | ubuntudude: that info is usually given directly to the browser | 09:24 |
| pyghassen | I'm in a situation when the server can be accessed only of I open a user session, if I don't the server in not accessible at all!! milamber | 09:24 |
| ubuntudude | milamber: no milamber | 09:25 |
| milamber | ubuntudude: otherwise the info would be in system >> preferences >> network proxy (for 10.04) | 09:25 |
| ubuntudude | milamber: if I don't point the correct proxy server, I won't get internet | 09:26 |
| ubuntudude | milamber: i have tried | 09:26 |
| milamber | pyghassen: which server? if you go to the ip address from a browser what happens? | 09:27 |
| ubuntudude | milamber: for example, in some location, we need to enter authentication to access internet. in addition to proxy server ip and port no. | 09:27 |
| milamber | ubuntudude: then in the network proxy settings you can change it to direct internet (for home) | 09:28 |
| ubuntudude | milamber: where to find ? where is network proxy settings? | 09:28 |
| milamber | ubuntudude: what version of ubuntu? | 09:29 |
| pyghassen | milamber: nothing just connection failed, and in the gtk client, (opener-server) it says impossible to connect server | 09:29 |
| ubuntudude | milamber: 10.04 LTS server | 09:29 |
| ubuntudude | milamber: http://imagebin.org/168073 , I want to see the screen like http://imagebin.org/168073 to configure proxy to get internet on my server | 09:30 |
| ubuntudude | milamber: that is the screen during installation. but if there is a way to configure or take it back like using tasksel, it would be nicer | 09:31 |
| milamber | ubuntudude: not sure about that, i have never had a 'mobile' server | 09:33 |
| milamber | pyghassen: how are you trying to connect? could your router be the problem? | 09:33 |
| ubuntudude | milamber: yes. I see, If not ok to get that screen, please let me know how I can accomplish the same in network proxy settings. I dont know where I can find network proxy settings | 09:35 |
| milamber | ubuntudude: do you have a gui? | 09:35 |
| ubuntudude | milamber: no. I am with just pure CLI | 09:35 |
| ubuntudude | milamber: pure CLI ubuntu server version | 09:36 |
| twb | #virt (OFTC) are asleep. Anybody feel like working out how to expose my host's ttyUSB0 to the guest, so that the VM can talk ppp to a 56k modem? (http://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#elementsConsole) | 09:36 |
| milamber | ubuntudude: http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/187/setting-up-http-proxy-at-console/ | 09:37 |
| Laice | o/ | 09:39 |
| Laice | odd one this: | 09:39 |
| Laice | "/dev/hvc0: No such file or directory" | 09:40 |
| Laice | pops up every 10 seconds | 09:40 |
| Laice | in auth.log | 09:40 |
| Laice | google's been utterly useless, reason i need it shifted is we've had the server targetted recently and trying to check the logs is difficult with those popping up lol | 09:41 |
| ubuntudude | milamber: cool. what about autodect proxy ? | 09:42 |
| twb | Laice: that's xen stuff | 09:45 |
| pyghassen | milamber: how this is possible? we already got the problem with router I guess, coz the server lost access to Internet anymore ! | 09:47 |
| twb | Never mind, I fixed my libvirt issue | 09:47 |
| Laice | ok | 09:48 |
| milamber | pyghassen: the router has to allow the traffic on the ports for the machine. httpd (apache) will run on port 80, so that port needs to be open. you also probably have an internal ip and an external ip (in network vs public). if you are testing from within the network it *should* work. are you on a lan right now testing the machine? | 09:49 |
| pyghassen | yes I am | 09:52 |
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| milamber | pyghassen: how is the server getting its ip? | 09:52 |
| pyghassen | when I reboot the server, the client can't access the server anymore | 09:52 |
| pyghassen | I think it's assigned manually | 09:53 |
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| milamber | pyghassen: that is needed info. the problem could be that the server is getting a new ip at each reboot. and what do you mean when you say client? testing apache requires only a browser. which daemon specifically are you trying to connect to? | 09:54 |
| pyghassen | it's an openerp server (python), and I don't think that the server is getting any other ip, coz when I open a user session on it, I'm using a ssh session connected to that manually assigned server ip | 09:57 |
| milamber | pyghassen: what happens when you run nmap from a remote machine (on same lan) to the server? | 10:02 |
| pyghassen | nmap?! what this command do exactly ? :) I don't know it | 10:04 |
| milamber | pyghassen: sudo apt-get install nmap && nmap <ip of server> | 10:08 |
| milamber | pyghassen: it will show open ports | 10:08 |
| Jeeves_ | Hi! | 10:45 |
| Jeeves_ | Does anyone use Ruby on Rails around here? | 10:46 |
| Daviey | Is anyone looking for bitesize things to do? | 11:04 |
| Daviey | oneiric developmnet? | 11:04 |
| farhad2161 | Can i install gcc from ubuntu-server-11 CD?how? | 11:07 |
| farhad2161 | Can i install gcc from ubuntu-server-11 CD? | 11:13 |
| lynxman | Daviey: morning sir o/ | 11:17 |
| lynxman | Daviey: are you playing with openstack these days? I just updated to the newest oneiric version and now nova-manage is broken | 11:18 |
| lynxman | Daviey: meh, nevermind, traced the error back | 11:19 |
| _aaron_ | hello | 11:20 |
| _aaron_ | should I ask here about how to configure my dhcp server or in #ubuntu | 11:21 |
| tdr112 | is there a way to save iptables settings | 11:22 |
| Daviey | lynxman: what was the error? | 11:22 |
| lynxman | tdr112: you can use iptables-save to dump your iptables config into a config file that you can load again at startup | 11:23 |
| lynxman | Daviey: putting lxc in the wrong nova.conf results in nova-manage just saying gflags.FlagsError: option -? not recognized | 11:23 |
| Daviey | tdr112: iptables-save | 11:24 |
| lynxman | Daviey: as you can see very easy to follow where that comes from :) | 11:24 |
| Daviey | lynxman: ah nice | 11:24 |
| tdr112 | so i add my rules to the config file and then just run iptables-save | 11:26 |
| Daviey | smoser: Have you noticed the hostname isn't getting correctly set on openstack instances? | 11:26 |
| lynxman | Daviey: yeah, I think it's for lack of metadata, same issue we were having on eucalyptus, reverts back to ubuntu if I recall properly | 11:30 |
| Daviey | lynxman: yah | 11:31 |
| Daviey | lynxman: I wondered if it is a generic issue, or one we are seeing in one deployment | 11:31 |
| trapmax | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb8umXET5cI | 11:31 |
| lynxman | Daviey: it thinks its an EC2 deployment and tries to look in the EC2 metadata and such | 11:32 |
| trapmax | sry | 11:32 |
| lynxman | trapmax: hope there's lolcats in that video ;) | 11:32 |
| trapmax | lynxman: nope....nice game though | 11:32 |
| lynxman | food time... *swoosh* | 11:33 |
| Daviey | lynxman: curl http://169.254.169.254/1.0/meta-data/hostname | 11:33 |
| Daviey | server_187 | 11:33 |
| Daviey | so it's not lack of meta-data by the seems of it. | 11:33 |
| Daviey | I also noticed that ssh key injection seems unreliable. | 11:33 |
| lynxman | Daviey: I'll catch you in a bit, I have a way todo it a bit securely :) | 11:34 |
| soren | Daviey: Which type of injection? The type that OpenSTack does on its own or the type done by cloud-init? | 11:34 |
| Daviey | soren: on it's own | 11:35 |
| soren | Ok. | 11:35 |
| Daviey | soren: plain boring, $ euca-run-instances -k davewalker ami-c .. first one failed, second one worked | 11:35 |
| Daviey | It happend the other day aswell. | 11:35 |
| soren | How can you tell which one is failing? | 11:36 |
| soren | I mean.. | 11:36 |
| soren | How can you tell that it's the injection openstack does rather than cloud-init? | 11:36 |
| Daviey | soren: Hmm, i assumed cloud-init injection data would have been via user-data? | 11:37 |
| soren | meta-data, but yes. | 11:37 |
| soren | Daviey: I don't think I follow, though. | 11:38 |
| soren | Daviey: Are you saying the euca-run-instances call fails altogether? | 11:39 |
| Daviey | soren: no, i can't ssh into the first instance, but a second instance spawned i can | 11:40 |
| Daviey | so the authorized_keys on the former isn't being set for some reason | 11:40 |
| soren | Daviey: Ok. So cloud-init fails, too? | 11:41 |
| soren | Daviey: MAybe not entirely, but fails to shove the ssh key into authorized_keys at least. | 11:41 |
| Daviey | soren: well, found data source: DataSourceEc2 | 11:41 |
| Daviey | soren: I haven't dug too deaply | 11:41 |
| Daviey | deeply& | 11:42 |
| soren | Daviey: Oh, so you're suggesting the ssh key doesn't even show up in the meta-data service in those cases? | 11:42 |
| Daviey | soren: Well, i can't tell you that - i can't get into the instance, but that is what i am wondering | 11:43 |
| Daviey | However, on the second /working/ instance, the hostname is not set - but is in metadata.. so it's not clear | 11:43 |
| Daviey | sounds racey. | 11:44 |
| soren | The meta-data service should respond correctly before the VM's disk image is even stitched together. | 11:44 |
| soren | Unless... | 11:44 |
| soren | Hm.. | 11:44 |
| soren | Ok, so the meta-data service responds based on the IP address of the requestor. | 11:45 |
| Daviey | soren: Hmm.. i wonder if it's to do with the timing i assigned a public address to it? | 11:46 |
| soren | If the IP address is a recycled one, I suppose there's a chance something hasn't been entirely cleaned up. | 11:46 |
| soren | Daviey: That's entirely possible, yes. | 11:46 |
| Daviey | I reproduced this same behaviour over the weekend btw | 11:46 |
| soren | Daviey: I forget the ordering of the iptables rules involved there, but if you assigna public IP, that's the address the instance exposes to the internet. | 11:47 |
| Daviey | yeah | 11:47 |
| soren | ...but obviously it should use its internal IP when speaking to the metadata server. | 11:47 |
| Daviey | you'd think so. | 11:47 |
| soren | "should" being the operative word. | 11:47 |
| soren | If you see this happen again, can you grab the output of "iptables-save" and save it for me, please? | 11:48 |
| soren | From the compute node. | 11:48 |
| Daviey | soren: annoyingly, this is a depolyment i don't have access to the node, and i suspect it will be quite noisey. | 11:49 |
| Daviey | soren: we'll have to reproduce this on development hardware. | 11:49 |
| soren | Daviey: You don't even have access to nova's logs? | 11:49 |
| soren | Daviey: ..because that might be sufficient, too. | 11:50 |
| Daviey | soren: I can probably get that | 11:50 |
| hallyn | zul: could you take the debdiff I attached at bottom of bug 598597 (in comment #10) and push it? | 13:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 598597 in gtk-vnc "Vinagre closes connection to tightvncserver 2.0 beta4 immediately" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/598597 | 13:09 |
| Daviey | hallyn: zul is conferencing | 13:18 |
| Daviey | hallyn: how does your diff differ from sbeattie's? | 13:20 |
| Daviey | is it fixed in Oneiric? | 13:21 |
| hallyn | Daviey: it's fixed as of maverick | 13:22 |
| hallyn | oh, i thought zul decided *nto* to go there :) | 13:22 |
| Daviey | hallyn: okay, super.. what is the difference between your diff and sbeattie's? | 13:23 |
| hallyn | Daviey: ah, i had downloaded the other attachment, but i guess i hadn't seen sbeattie's | 13:23 |
| hallyn | one more sec, i'm looking | 13:23 |
| hallyn | Daviey: his looks great, go ahead and take his :) | 13:23 |
| * hallyn goes to check the date of that attachment | 13:24 | |
| hallyn | huh | 13:24 |
| hallyn | wtf, how did i miss that | 13:24 |
| hallyn | Daviey: yeah pls do take his. i'll delete mine | 13:24 |
| Daviey | :*( | 13:25 |
| hallyn | no need for that :) | 13:25 |
| smoser | Daviey, http://paste.ubuntu.com/667312/ is boto metadata crawl on openstack | 13:37 |
| Daviey | smoser leaps out of the shadows | 13:39 |
| Daviey | smoser: Are you seeing instances not accepting the ssh key and hostname not working? | 13:40 |
| smoser | i have not seen that | 13:40 |
| smoser | but the hostname is not set, i can verify that. | 13:40 |
| lynxman | smoser: how's libvirt-lxc btw | 13:45 |
| lynxman | smoser: and morning :) | 13:45 |
| smoser | lynxman, not really moved... | 13:45 |
| lynxman | smoser: dang :) | 13:46 |
| zul | no...zul is not awake yet | 13:53 |
| * hallyn hands zul a cup of decaf | 13:55 | |
| zul | hallyn: ill get to it after breakfast | 13:56 |
| hallyn | zul: pls don't - Daviey is pushing it | 13:56 |
| hallyn | zul: but thanks! | 13:56 |
| zul | k | 13:56 |
| hallyn | zul: though if you had a few cycles to grab http://people.canonical.com/~serge/ipxe.debdiff and push it, that'd be great :) | 13:57 |
| hallyn | (i'd forgotten kirkland is also at conf) | 13:57 |
| hallyn | zul: nm, you're at conf. i'll bug someone else | 13:58 |
| * hallyn about to run out of batt. biam | 13:58 | |
| Ursinha | Daviey: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-reports | 14:00 |
| Daviey | Ursinha: rocking | 14:02 |
| Ursinha | Daviey: please file bugs like crazy | 14:02 |
| Daviey | will do | 14:03 |
| * Daviey adds it to his never ending list. | 14:03 | |
| Daviey | I. Need. Air. | 14:03 |
| lynxman | Daviey: Do a randomizer, and don't forget to breathe | 14:03 |
| roasted | hey guys | 14:03 |
| roasted | anybody know offhand where exactly dhcp server settings are stored for the corresponding ethernet interface? | 14:03 |
| roasted | I had a small dhcp imaging server of mine blow (hardware failure) but I had an identical system here, so I dropped the drives in and fired it up | 14:03 |
| roasted | problem is, my NICs came up eth 1 and eth2, not eth0 and eth1 | 14:04 |
| roasted | my dhcp server was originally on eth0, but now its on eth2, and dhcp won't start. I have no idea where to re-bind it so it's on eth2 now. | 14:04 |
| Daviey | smoser: We need to find out if the lack of a hostname is a deployment issue, or something up with the packages. | 14:05 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #827372 in apache2 (main) "package apache2.2-common (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/827372 | 14:05 |
| smoser | Daviey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/827386 | 14:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 827386 in nova "DescribeImages does not fill imageOwnerId" [Undecided,New] | 14:08 |
| Daviey | smoser: nice one | 14:09 |
| === Ard1t is now known as Guest69853 | ||
| roasted | if I delete the items in 70-persistent-net.rules and reboot, will it rebuild that file on the fly? | 14:12 |
| roasted | because my NICs are borked and I'm in a severe hurry to get them working again | 14:12 |
| lynxman | roasted: yes it should | 14:12 |
| roasted | thanks lynxman | 14:13 |
| roasted | I tried renaming my eth in there but it wouldnt take | 14:13 |
| roasted | then again maybe a reboot is required | 14:14 |
| roasted | bingo. we're working lynxman. thanks again. | 14:17 |
| roasted | gotta run! | 14:17 |
| lynxman | adam_g: ping, whenever you're awake :) | 14:19 |
| Ursinha | /13 | 14:27 |
| Ursinha | sigh | 14:27 |
| lynxman | Ursinha: 14! | 14:27 |
| Ursinha | lynxman: you won | 14:27 |
| lynxman | Ursinha: nah :) you did | 14:28 |
| Ursinha | :) | 14:28 |
| CluelessPerson | hello | 14:34 |
| CluelessPerson | can someone please help me make it so minecraft automatically starts at boot and will restart if it happens to crash? | 14:34 |
| tdn | How do I increase ulimit for open file handles for a given user permanently? (I need to give www-data permission to open more files) | 14:44 |
| lynxman | tdn: edit /etc/security/limits.conf , you can modify there per user or global limits on your system, it'll require a restart for them to take effect if I recall correctly | 14:47 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #827415 in samba (main) "package samba-common 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 9" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/827415 | 14:51 |
| Daviey | ugh. I'm starting to hate samba. | 14:56 |
| lborda | Has anyone ever had problems installing Natty on a Dell PowerEdge-R610 that has a LSI SAS1068E-based hardware RAID setup? everything goes well and after the reboot grub does not boot | 15:00 |
| lborda | ? | 15:00 |
| lborda | hi lynxman | 15:01 |
| lynxman | lborda: hey leo o/ | 15:01 |
| lynxman | lborda: does grub just show the initial g? | 15:01 |
| lborda | lynxman, no this is the error: http://askubuntu.com/questions/55865/grub-cant-find-raid-partition-in-fresh-install-of-11-04 | 15:04 |
| lborda | lynxman, Restoring grub didn't work too | 15:05 |
| lynxman | lborda: it looks like grub doesn't see the drive in the bios, or that it differs from the definitions, the msdos stuff looks fishy indeed | 15:05 |
| lynxman | lborda: I'd try collecting more info when grub falls into busybox, but that's all I can think of right now | 15:06 |
| lborda | humm.... lynxman i will take a look at it... tks | 15:09 |
| lborda | lynxman, ^ | 15:09 |
| lynxman | lborda: :) | 15:09 |
| zul | Daviey: join the club | 15:15 |
| Daviey | zul: club? | 15:15 |
| zul | Daviey: the i hate samba club | 15:15 |
| Daviey | ah | 15:15 |
| Daviey | yes.. do i get a membership card? | 15:16 |
| zul | and a plush toy | 15:16 |
| Daviey | groovy. | 15:16 |
| sbeattie | Daviey, hallyn: thanks for reviewing and uploading the gtk-vnc fix. | 15:18 |
| Daviey | sbeattie: hah, i did the easy bit :) | 15:18 |
| hallyn | sbeattie: thanks for the debdiff :) | 15:18 |
| nfo-overload | hi guys, trying to setup squid proxy at work. Ideal goal is authentication via Active Directory where users don't have to enter any credentials. would like to have Internet traffic reports that contains windows logon name. anyone have something like this setup? | 15:50 |
| wpl | Hello, how do i find out which server version is running on my box? | 16:31 |
| nfo-overload | wpl - uname -a | 16:32 |
| wpl | nfo-overload: thx | 16:35 |
| wpl | nfo-overload: Doesn't tell me the Ubuntu version, though | 16:36 |
| pmatulis | nfo-overload: to get the "ubuntu version" (release) do 'lsb_release -a' | 16:36 |
| wpl | pmatulis: thx | 16:37 |
| wpl | pmatulis: This works better | 16:37 |
| zul | RoAkSoAx: ping did you get a power supply for your pandaboard? | 16:56 |
| adam_g | lynxman: im here now for a few | 17:02 |
| Ursinha | Daviey: can you help me here a bit, when you have a minute? please? https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/827178 | 17:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 827178 in launchpad "No way of deliberately requesting someones input in a bug " [Undecided,Incomplete] | 17:04 |
| Daviey | Ursinha: ack | 17:04 |
| RoAkSoAx | zul: yes | 17:06 |
| RoAkSoAx | zul: from digikey | 17:06 |
| * robbiew goes to pack for linuxcon flight | 17:25 | |
| jane-- | in what programming language does ubuntu and its (and linux various majority softwares are made in) ? | 18:14 |
| bernhard2 | Having about 5 errors in my log during bootup. help fixing these would be great.. check em out here.. http://pastebin.com/dFABgSqe | 18:15 |
| tsimpson | jane--: many | 18:16 |
| smb | zul, So if the changelog is correct the only change of the xen package is the hvmloader. Still when I have bond0 in /etc/xen/xend-config* bond0 gets into a mostly removed state and pbond0 is not set up correctly. | 18:16 |
| jane-- | tsimpson which is used mostly | 18:17 |
| tsimpson | jane--: depends what you are doing | 18:17 |
| jane-- | which languages is most widely used in aaps | 18:17 |
| tsimpson | jane--: like I said, it depends on what you want to do | 18:19 |
| tsimpson | C,C++,Python,Perl,Ruby,Java,C#,(Ba)Sh,... | 18:20 |
| jane-- | if all that can be done in c and be done in c++ and c++ is easier and a superset of c. then why not use c++ instead of c? | 18:20 |
| tsimpson | some people want to use C, and C++ is not just a superset of C | 18:21 |
| tsimpson | it has some different and conflicting rules | 18:21 |
| tsimpson | jane--: use whatever language you are comfortable with | 18:23 |
| jane-- | hm\ | 18:24 |
| jane-- | what languages can be multiplatformed. ie. same app i just made can run on linux as wel as windows ? | 18:24 |
| tsimpson | languages are not platform-dependant, but the code you write can be | 18:25 |
| SpamapS | jane--: there are very few languages that don't have an implementation on both | 18:25 |
| SpamapS | jane--: as tsimpson suggests, its more about how you write your code | 18:25 |
| jane-- | ic | 18:26 |
| jane-- | i hope c and cplus syntax is very much similer | 18:26 |
| jane-- | iam going for cplus | 18:26 |
| jane-- | hm | 18:26 |
| tsimpson | the syntax is similar, but not identical | 18:27 |
| tsimpson | if you can read C, you can probably figure out what C++ code is doing | 18:27 |
| tsimpson | and (usually) vice-versa | 18:27 |
| jane-- | tsimpson ill go with c++ coz it takes less hassle and easy to learn than c. easy to code | 18:31 |
| tsimpson | I wouldn't say it takes less time to learn C++ than it does to learn C | 18:32 |
| tsimpson | but I do find C++ easer to actually write code in than C | 18:32 |
| jane-- | hm | 18:34 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #827496 in cobbler (universe) "cobbler kickstart metadata dont affect ubuntu preseed " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/827496 | 19:05 |
| _aaron_ | !windows | 19:10 |
| ubottu | For discussion on Microsoft software, or help with same, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubottu equivalents | 19:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1 in ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] | 19:10 |
| _aaron_ | how do I configure my /etc/network/interfaces to specify a workgroup | 19:14 |
| RoyK | you don't | 19:14 |
| RoyK | _aaron_: /etc/network/interfaces is the network config, not the samba config | 19:15 |
| RoyK | !samba | 19:15 |
| ubottu | Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. | 19:15 |
| RoyK | _aaron_: just edit /etc/samba/smb.conf to set the workgroup name | 19:15 |
| RoyK | !smb.conf | 19:15 |
| RoyK | or just man smb.conf | 19:15 |
| _aaron_ | RoyK, ok I got it | 19:16 |
| hggdh | Daviey: still there? | 19:21 |
| _Neytiri_ | i am having a issue with the VM system in ubuntu server i am running 11.4 | 19:30 |
| _Neytiri_ | 64 bit with 16 gigs of ram and 4 cpu's and 4 gbic network cards | 19:31 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #827590 in cloud-init (main) "cloud-init does not mount ephemeral0 on /mnt in nova" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/827590 | 19:31 |
| _Neytiri_ | i am getting a error when i try and create a vm the error is: Unable to complete install: ''NoneType' object has no attribute' virtual_device_type'' | 19:32 |
| _Neytiri_ | any idea how i can fix this | 19:32 |
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| hggdh | Daviey: cobbler-enroll i(18)n prepared, on bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~hggdh2/%2Bjunk/cobbler-enroll2/ | 19:53 |
| jcastro | ttx: hi | 20:06 |
| jcastro | ttx: ok just so I am sure, what are the exact dates of the openstack conference? | 20:06 |
| jcastro | http://www.openstack.org/community/events/openstack-conference-fall-2011/ | 20:06 |
| ttx | Design Summit is Oct 3-5 | 20:06 |
| jcastro | is this still correct? | 20:06 |
| ttx | Conference is Oct 5-7 (starting on the evening of the 5th) | 20:07 |
| bernhard1 | how can i check which php.ini is actually used/loaded ? | 20:07 |
| EM03 | hello ....10.04 LTS >> apache2 does it bind to all ip's by default or no? | 20:19 |
| EM03 | I can't connect but every other debian and ubuntu I tried it does | 20:19 |
| bernhard1 | i try to disable suhosin in php.. but i cant seem to disable it in php.ini | 20:20 |
| bernhard1 | this is my php.ini | 20:22 |
| bernhard1 | http://pastebin.com/6CU5iUHc | 20:22 |
| guntbert | EM03: look into /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/.... | 20:23 |
| Daviey | ho ho | 20:25 |
| guntbert | Daviey: ? | 20:28 |
| * Daviey is not in a good mood, remote server - http://pb.daviey.com/MC7w | 20:30 | |
| Daviey | no intelligent hants. | 20:30 |
| Daviey | hands. | 20:30 |
| * utlemming extends condolences to Daviey for his lose | 20:34 | |
| * RoAkSoAx YaY cobbler support for ARM is done! | 20:35 | |
| Fecn1 | Hi Folks - Has anyone noticed a problem in 11.04 server whereby lsusb only gives output if you run it as a non-root user.... As root, it returns nothing | 21:01 |
| Fecn1 | Doesn't seem to affect my desktop 11.04 installation | 21:01 |
| Fecn1 | Never mind.... dodgy touchscreen drivers had placed their own copy of libusb into /usr/local/lib and that was breaking things | 21:14 |
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| lynxman | Daviey: ouch X( | 21:25 |
| Daviey | lynxman: pondering what to do.. SMART is reporting clean. | 21:28 |
| lynxman | Daviey: soft raid tends to screw up sometimes, I would add it back and keep an eye, my rule of thumb is normally if it fails 2 times it's out :) | 21:29 |
| Daviey | lynxman: it's 3ware hardware RAID | 21:30 |
| lynxman | Daviey: uuuh, I would add it back once anyway | 21:31 |
| lynxman | Daviey: keep a close eye of course | 21:31 |
| lynxman | Daviey: also do you have a graph of the smart metrics? That helps finding a long trend decaying metric | 21:34 |
| Daviey | lynxman: If only byobu could show me the rebuild status :) | 21:38 |
| lynxman | Daviey: I'd fill a bug, it'd actually be very useful | 21:38 |
| Daviey | hah | 21:39 |
| lynxman | Daviey: hmm maybe a way to pipe a one line watch command to the bottom line? Now you got me thinking | 21:42 |
| Daviey | lynxman: heh, i have it on fullscreen :) | 21:43 |
| Daviey | # /tmp/tw_cli /c0/u0 show rebuildstatus | 21:44 |
| Daviey | /c0/u0 is rebuilding with percent completion = 1% | 21:44 |
| lynxman | Daviey: raid rebuilding, gah | 21:46 |
| kirkland | Daviey: it does already show raid rebuild status | 21:53 |
| kirkland | lynxman: ^ | 21:53 |
| kirkland | Daviey: well, it supporst /dev/mdstat, anyway; not sure about your 3ware hw raid device | 21:53 |
| kirkland | Daviey: i watch mine rebuild every first sunday of the month, good times :-) | 21:54 |
| lynxman | kirkland: every first Sunday of the month? jeez | 21:56 |
| Daviey | kirkland: happy slow IO day. | 21:56 |
| Daviey | arse | 21:56 |
| kirkland | lynxman: well, it's just a sync check cronjob done by mdadm | 21:57 |
| Daviey | err, bad paste. | 21:57 |
| lynxman | kirkland: if only we could use zraid :) | 21:57 |
| EM03 | how can I tell if my apache is binded to port 80? | 22:04 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #827662 in apache2 (main) "PCI Security failure Apache 2.2.14" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/827662 | 22:05 |
| lynxman | EM03: find the process ID of your apache master process, run lsof -p PIDNUM | 22:10 |
| lynxman | EM03: also you can run netstat -an and look for the listening ports, it should say what process sits there as well | 22:10 |
| erichammond | If one needed to install MySQL 5.5, would Clint Byrum's PPA be a reasonably good source? or is it recommended to use alien with mysql.com's RPM download? | 22:11 |
| EM03 | lynxman: tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN | 22:11 |
| EM03 | but when I try to goto the ip it just sits there | 22:11 |
| lynxman | EM03: can you define "sits there"? :) | 22:12 |
| EM03 | well its connecting but i'm not getting the page hehe | 22:12 |
| lynxman | EM03: and do your apache logs say something? | 22:13 |
| EM03 | i dont see much in the logs that represents an error lynxman | 22:15 |
| lynxman | EM03: and do you see anything that represents that something is connecting to the web server? :) | 22:16 |
| lynxman | EM03: I guess you're connecting but something is wrong with your apache, from what it looks like | 22:16 |
| EM03 | yea there is a connection | 22:16 |
| lynxman | erichammond: Clint's repos are recommended indeed, he's a good fella :) | 22:17 |
| lynxman | EM03: so there you go, apache is listening and you need to go deeper down and see what is misconfigured there | 22:17 |
| EM03 | blah ....this is such a fresh install :) | 22:17 |
| lynxman | EM03: and nonetheless you broke it, hehe :) | 22:18 |
| EM03 | never had this happen before | 22:18 |
| lynxman | EM03: it's a good exercise to see what happens, activate the debug logs on apache, see all the fun | 22:18 |
| erichammond | lynxman: Sure he is :) but it wasn't clear to me if that PPA is being actively maintained or if things are stalled per https://bugs.launchpad.net/mysql-server/+bug/690925 | 22:18 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 690925 in mysql-5.1 "Package MySQL 5.5.x for Ubuntu" [Wishlist,In progress] | 22:18 |
| EM03 | do you know how to do it off hand? or do I need to google for an hour :P | 22:18 |
| lynxman | erichammond: You can ask him... | 22:18 |
| lynxman | SpamapS: do you maintain your MySQL 5.5 repo? | 22:19 |
| lynxman | EM03: googling for an hour is a healthy exercise for a sysadmin :) | 22:19 |
| EM03 | yea i know :P | 22:19 |
| EM03 | all i did was apt-get install lamp-server^ and apache was running and it didn't work | 22:19 |
| EM03 | its 10.04 | 22:19 |
| EM03 | in 11.04 apache was running just fine | 22:20 |
| erichammond | SpamapS: (per ^^^) Wondering if this is reasonably current and/or maintained: https://launchpad.net/~clint-fewbar/+archive/mysql | 22:21 |
| EM03 | lynxman: this is abnormal correct? | 22:25 |
| bernhard1 | Just upgraded nginx.. but now my php5 does not work.. please check my nginx config http://pastebin.com/CmPzPJz9 | 22:25 |
| bernhard1 | here is the nginx update info.. http://pastebin.com/xmtQH4p0 | 22:25 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #827674 in cobbler (universe) "cobbler lacks full support for arm" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/827674 | 22:26 |
| SpamapS | lynxman: no I haven't updated in in a while | 22:31 |
| SpamapS | lynxman: hoping to get it into Debian soon so we can sync up after 11.10 releases | 22:31 |
| lynxman | SpamapS: that would be rocking | 22:34 |
| SpamapS | lynxman: yeah, we're long long long overdue for 5.5 | 22:38 |
| lynxman | SpamapS: I still run 5.1 in prod so I won't complain about tardiness :) | 22:38 |
| SpamapS | lynxman: 5.5 solves some scale up issues in innodb .. and mixed mode replication works better. | 22:39 |
| lynxman | SpamapS: yeah innodb improvements are very tempting tbh | 22:40 |
| SpamapS | lynxman: 5.1 does ok with 1 and 2 cores.. but after that.. it gets really bad | 22:44 |
| bernhard1 | fixed my issue... | 22:47 |
| lynxman | SpamapS: heh, the dilemma of multi core, I have only two on this one but thinking about upgrading it to a quad core machine, although as always disk IO is my main concern | 22:50 |
| zroysch | I'm trying to join a drive to a raid-1 array. Both drives are the same make, same model, purchased at the same time. How is this possible? http://pastebin.com/PnExwz4S | 23:03 |
| EM03 | so does apache by default when installed just listen on all ip's and work? | 23:03 |
| EM03 | its beyond me why this is happening | 23:04 |
| lynxman | zroysch: how big are the partitions? looks like sdb1 is bigger than sda1 according to mdam | 23:05 |
| SpamapS | EM03: yes, there's only a "Listen 80" in /etc/apache2/ports.conf that controls that | 23:05 |
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| EM03 | yea blah | 23:06 |
| EM03 | when telnet'ing it SpamapS its just trying it never connects | 23:07 |
| EM03 | i can't connect to port 80 | 23:07 |
| EM03 | if i telnet the apache server locally though it returns the html | 23:08 |
| EM03 | so whats the deal here you think? | 23:08 |
| EM03 | i get a timeout when trying to connect outisde of the server | 23:08 |
| lynxman | EM03: did you set your logs to debug or not yet? | 23:08 |
| EM03 | i think it could be a firewall issue? | 23:09 |
| EM03 | i can telnet the server from inside the server and get the request | 23:09 |
| EM03 | when outisde the server no | 23:09 |
| EM03 | is ubuntu 10.04 LTS different than a traditional ubuntu server install? | 23:12 |
| EM03 | it looks like my firewall is enabled | 23:13 |
| EM03 | i thought ubuntu did not enable a firewall by default? | 23:13 |
| args[0] | can someone confirm this? ^ | 23:14 |
| lynxman | args[0]: afaik it doesn't come activated by default | 23:17 |
| EM03 | sure about that? they said it was a default install and I surely didn't set it up | 23:17 |
| EM03 | unless apt-get install lamp-server^ does it? and I don't think it does | 23:17 |
| EM03 | its just installing some packages | 23:18 |
| args[0] | EM03: I had a similar problem before, but then I removed lamp and installed apache/php5 alone | 23:18 |
| lynxman | EM03: you've been so far just doubting everything I've tried to give you as help, don't think I can really help you like that | 23:19 |
| EM03 | really? | 23:19 |
| EM03 | lynxman: debugging apache I promise is not gong to do anything | 23:19 |
| EM03 | its iptables I found the issue and I had no clue it did that | 23:19 |
| * lynxman shrugs | 23:19 | |
| EM03 | and dude I appreciate the help man | 23:20 |
| EM03 | when I install apache I get Processing triggers for ufw ... | 23:21 |
| EM03 | Rules updated for profile 'OpenSSH' | 23:21 |
| EM03 | Skipped reloading firewall | 23:21 |
| EM03 | is this normal for ubuntu 10.04 lts? I guess it is | 23:21 |
| EM03 | args[0]: I think that answers the question | 23:21 |
| args[0] | hmmm.. yeah might be, I'm good... not looking forward for using LAMP anymore though | 23:25 |
| EM03 | what do you use? | 23:26 |
| args[0] | I setuo everything manually | 23:30 |
| args[0] | setup* | 23:30 |
| EM03 | args[0]: on ubuntu 10.04 even if you apt-get install apache2 it messes with the firewall | 23:37 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #827705 in u-boot-linaro "PXE boot requests non-standard config filename" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/827705 | 23:45 |
| Daviey | zul: ^^ might interest you. | 23:46 |
| erichammond | SpamapS: Just caught up with the notes above on MySQL 5.5 status. Thanks for the info. | 23:52 |
| erichammond | SpamapS: My team was discussing this post that came out yesterday: http://www.mysqlperformanceblog.com/2011/08/15/whats-the-recommended-mysql-version/ | 23:52 |
| zroysch | lynxman: the partitions are the maximum capacity of the drives: http://pastebin.com/H6RswzCJ | 23:53 |
| SpamapS | erichammond: I think we could have reasonably jammed 5.5 into Ubuntu 11.10, but its better if it enters via Debian. | 23:53 |
| lynxman | zroysch: shouldn't they be type fd and not 83? | 23:53 |
| zroysch | lynxman: probably, but that's not the issue here. they were both part of the md0 raid1 a few weeks ago | 23:54 |
| SpamapS | erichammond: In fact Debian's mysql maintainer, Norbert, is way over worked and needs help... I'm looking at possibly gaining DD status so I can keep it up to date more easily. | 23:54 |
| zroysch | something happened with /dev/sda so I removed it from the array and now i'm readding | 23:54 |
| lynxman | zroysch: I kinda think it's related to the issue... | 23:54 |
| zroysch | re-adding | 23:54 |
| zroysch | lynxman: how would the array have been built in the first place? the partition types have not changed | 23:55 |
| lynxman | zroysch: try making sda1 type fd | 23:55 |
| lynxman | zroysch: the checks it does when building a new array vs the checks it does when trying to add a new member to an existing array are not the same | 23:55 |
| zroysch | lynxman: dont the partition tables of each drive need to be identical to join an array? | 23:55 |
| lynxman | zroysch: not really, they partitions just need to be equal or bigger | 23:56 |
| lynxman | zroysch: the new partition needs to be at least same in size to the existing one, by having type 83 it's my hunch that mdadm is having trouble seeing that | 23:56 |
| zroysch | lynxman: ok, let me try repartitioning | 23:57 |
| lynxman | zroysch: it's the only reason that I can remotely think of that could explain this | 23:57 |
| zroysch | thanks for your help.. brb | 23:57 |
| zroysch | WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted. | 23:57 |
| zroysch | I can't remember why I did this | 23:57 |
| zroysch | probably just trying something new | 23:58 |
| zroysch | does GNU Parted = GParted ? | 23:58 |
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